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So our 26 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: lead this hour and we survived the weekend and all 27 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 1: that our lead this hour from the Cowboys. Oh yeah, 28 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: well why not? So now Dallas played the Rams. I 29 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: can't get into these exhibition games. I can't. I know 30 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: there are some people that are better people than me 31 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: that can talk about these exhibition games. I can't do it. 32 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: I just I can't. I try to watch two seconds 33 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: of them. I want to puke in my mouth watching 34 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: this crap. That being said, That being said, I do 35 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: have a talk show to do right now. And there 36 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: are some stories that came out of these exhibition football games. 37 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: One of them Dallas losing to the Rams over the 38 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: weekend in a practice game, not real game, not real game, 39 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: a practice game. We Rams won, all right. So quarterback 40 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: Joe Milton, quarterback Joe Milton, who played for the Patriots 41 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: last year now with the Dallas Cowboys, and he played 42 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: in that game, played a lot in that game, did 43 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: not do anything all that memorable as the QB two 44 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. It was at meh, meh performance for 45 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: Joe Milton, and that was that left bruising his shoulder 46 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: in the third quarter, so he left the game early, 47 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: although he was likely going to come out of the 48 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: game anyway. Around that time. He gave himself a D minus. 49 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: He gave himself the D the D minus grade on that. However, 50 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: that's not what I want to chat with you about. 51 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: It will lead up to that exhibition game. Coaches say 52 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: the darnedest things. We got a hum dinger humdinger of 53 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: a quote recently from the coach I say that loosely 54 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: coach in Dallas. If you did not hear what he said, 55 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: perhaps not. Coach Brian Schottenheimer shotzi Brian Schottenheimer describing Joe 56 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: Milton's passes as quote, piss missiles. That's what he said. 57 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: That's a quote from the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. 58 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: When speaking to reporters prior to that Cowboy exhibition game 59 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: with the Rams, he compared his throwing to that of 60 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: Brett farre, the Hall of Fame former Green Bay Packer quarterback. 61 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: So you know what that means. Let's parse the words. 62 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: Let's parse the words here of the Cowboys coach Brian 63 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: Schottenheimer as we discuss so Brian Schottenheimer up selling obviously 64 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: upselling backup quarterback Joe Milton saying that he throws quote 65 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: piss missiles, compared him to Brett Farv Is this something 66 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: or is this nothing? All right, So I've got twister, 67 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: hot tub, and cinnabun. Cinnabun is so good. And we'll 68 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: combine all of these things together, and we are going 69 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: to make the Gabba Ghoul. We're gonna make the Gabba 70 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: gol So a where's the beef? The first question is 71 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: where is the beef? This is a burger. It's not 72 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,239 Speaker 1: an in and out burger, is not a McDonald's Burger's 73 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: not a whopper from Burger King. It is a nothing burger, 74 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: is what it is. It's your typical coach high garbay 75 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: garbays listen, how many let me ask a questions, how 76 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: many quarterbacks have great arm talent in the month of August? 77 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: How many? The answer all of them physically right, They're 78 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: all listen, they're there, they're in the NFL. They all 79 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: can make all the throws and all that stuff. So listen, 80 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: Joe Milton. If you look at the raw ingredients, he's 81 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: a specimen. He's got the prototypical cannon arm and mobilities, 82 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: the whole deal, and then some and then some, and 83 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: the kind of stuff that coaches and scouts get all 84 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: horny for. They're, oh, man, the problem is it's all unprocessed. 85 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: It is all unprocessed. And you can throw a fastball 86 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: and just zing it downfield, and it can also go 87 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: into the fifteenth throw and that's great. Can you consistently 88 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: read the defense and find the open receiver and all that? 89 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: Can you hit the open player more importantly underneath when 90 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: it's third down and four or are you one of 91 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: those checkdown charlie guys when it is I say, third 92 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: and seven, and you complete a pass at the line 93 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: of scrimmage and then it gets five yards so you 94 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: come up short, but your completion percentage is good. Milton 95 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: was chased out of New England in part because Drake May, 96 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: who was the chosen one, the chosen one there with 97 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: the Patriots. Drake May was uncomfortable. So those around the 98 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: Patriots said, with Joe Milton, which is odd because if 99 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: you look at the resume of the new Cowboy backup 100 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: quarterback here Joe Milton. His biggest NFL moment, the thing 101 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: that stands out on his resume was a believe it 102 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: was Week eighteen last year, last year when he beat 103 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: the Buffalo bill backups backups in the final game of 104 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: the regular season, a meaningless game. That's it. That's the resume, 105 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: that's all. Now, regardless of that, you can't just overlook 106 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: the fact. And this is why I'm intrigued by this 107 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: to a point, not just the great quote from Schoenheimer 108 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: piss missile describing the throws, but the fact that you've 109 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: got the incompetent Dakota Prescott as QB won there in Dallas. 110 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: The man is made of toilet paper. And I'm not 111 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: talking about charman. I'm talking about one plied toilet paper 112 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: that you see at a truck stop on the side 113 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: of the Jersey Turnpike. That's what I'm talking about, that 114 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: one plied toilet paper. He's always hurt. And Jerry Jones 115 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: knows this. He's aware of this because it happens every 116 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: year where Dakota Prescott gets hurt. So Jerry Jones is 117 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: out there playing twister now nobody wants to see Jerry 118 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: Jones play twister, but Joe Milton is one twisted ankle 119 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: or twisted knee or tweaked elbow away from playing in 120 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: the regular season for the Dallas Cowboys. And while again 121 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: piss missile, great quote, really, good quote, wonderful. However, Joe Milton, 122 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: if you look at the comparison, it's like, well, he 123 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: certainly more of a JaMarcus Russell, though Russell was the 124 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: number one over of the old Oakland Raiders. I'm old, 125 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: I remember the Raiders played in Oakland, and Brett Farv 126 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: certainly nowhere near Brett Farrv. Joe Milton in that category. Now, 127 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: we would enjoy, we would absolutely enjoy watching him play 128 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: in real game. Now. Why is that, I'll tell you 129 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: because of chaos with a capital C. Chaos with a 130 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: capital C. Here it could be awesome, right, real games. 131 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: So there's a little bit of intrigue there. Why not 132 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: see what he can do? But for now, we're doing 133 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: the show right now. For now, this is just a 134 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: nice puffy pastry in August, a nice delicious pastry served 135 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: up in August, and Brian Schottenheimer trying to build up 136 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: the player and give him some false confidence and all that, 137 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: and that's really what he's going for here. Now, we 138 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: will revisit this. We're gonna file this one away. We're 139 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: gonna revisit this around week three when Dak Prescott feels 140 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: a twinge in his hamstring, and then we'll revisit all 141 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: this now, Page two. Staying though, staying in Jerry's world, 142 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: because we had a wonderful mall mate, a wonderful moment. 143 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: I did not see this live, but let me set 144 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: the scene here for you. So again, Cowboys preseason. Cowboys 145 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: playing a nothing game against the Rams in the hood 146 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: in Inglewood on Saturday. And Ceedee Lamb. That's a high 147 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: paid wide receiver, not an actual Lamb, a football player 148 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: named Lamb, Ceedee Lamb. So Ceedee Lamb doesn't even playing 149 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: the game. Why would he. He's a star, he's a diva. 150 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: Divas don't play. Stars don't play in these first exhibition games. 151 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: So fine, he didn't play in the game, but he's there. 152 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: He doesn't take a snap in the game. He's not 153 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: wearing a uniform. You're not able to take a snap. 154 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: And so somehow, some way, this player, Ceedee Lamb, somehow, 155 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: manages to get the biggest hit of the game. He 156 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: was involved in the biggest hit of the game. Well, 157 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: how did he do that? I don't understand, all right, 158 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: So without even being in uniform again, we'll go back 159 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: to Joe Milton, the backup quarterback who played a lot 160 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: because this was an exhibition game. So Joe Milton is 161 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: in there and he unquirks a deep pass down the 162 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: sideline to someone named Jonathan Mingo to the Mingo down 163 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: the sidelines and Lamb who is standing there right on 164 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: that white painted area, that stripe on the sidelines where 165 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: you're not allowed to be. That literally is the get 166 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: out of the way zone in football. And so he's 167 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: in the lane where the officials are running down the field, 168 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: and sure enough he starts celebrating like this is the 169 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Of course, playing for the Cowboys, they don't 170 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: actually get to the Super Bowl, so you have to 171 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: celebrate these kind of things. And so he was so engaged, 172 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: so caught up into the moment. How caught up was he, 173 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: Cede Lamb. He was so caught up he did not 174 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: notice in his peripheral vision a bad situational awareness, did 175 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: not notice the side judge barely down the sideline in 176 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: full sprint. 177 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:37,359 Speaker 3: Eh Ca Boom came boom. 178 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: It was great. Obliterated the side a sideline judge there 179 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: obliterated Ceedee Lamb from behind blind side hit pancake in 180 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: Madden on the blind side. Fifteen yard penalty for the 181 00:11:53,640 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: Cowboys for unsportsmanlike conduct. And it's good to know that 182 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 1: the coaches have changed, that the calendar has changed, all 183 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: of this has changed, all of this has changed, and 184 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: yet here we are. So my reaction to that particular place, well, 185 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: yes it was entertaining. It was entertaining, I'll give you that. 186 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: But my reaction to the Cowboy wide receiver Ceedee Lamb 187 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: being trucked in a exhibition game that he didn't even 188 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: play in, I loved it. This was exactly exactly the 189 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: kind of dopey staff that the preseason is four. That 190 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 1: was my first thought. Here, what a bonehead move. And 191 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: you can't keep your third or fourth or fifth string 192 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: this guy and that guy and these battles. You know, 193 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 1: some people into that kind of stuff, the analytical crowds 194 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: into that. Give me an all pro level player in 195 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: street close getting bulldozed by a referee any day. NFL films. 196 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: You know what they need to do. They need to 197 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: go in the hot tub time machine. Go into the 198 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: hot tub time machine and bring back the classic old 199 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: school NFL's Greatest follies. Bring that back and you can 200 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: just stream it. You don't have to do the DVD. 201 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: You don't have to do obviously the VHS, that's old tech. 202 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: But you can bring back NFL's Greatest follies and slap 203 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: cdee Lamb in there right in between. The mascot falling 204 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: off the ATV always a classic, always very entertaining. The 205 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: quarterback who lines up behind the guard not realizing where 206 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: they are on the field, that's also very entertaining. Put 207 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: the Dunce cap on him, and CD seemed to appreciate 208 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: the fact that he was the butt of the joke. 209 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: After the game and push you can have all the follies, 210 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: the usual follies, the fumbles, the ball bouncing off a 211 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: player's helmet, all that stuff just bobbled passes here, there 212 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: and everywhere. You know, guys slipping on the logo. And 213 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: now you can add Ceedee Lamb, the cowboy player not 214 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: in uniform and taking a shoulder from the side judge 215 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: there like he's running the Oklahoma drill and it was 216 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: very very unentertending, so instant classic and the rookie sock 217 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: puppet coach Brian Schottenheimer out there saying that CD knows better. 218 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: He knows better, and that is the Dallas Cowboys in 219 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: a nutshell. As we said, things change, the calendar changes, 220 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: the names change, the coaches changed, and all that. But 221 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: even in August, even in August, they're still drawing thumb 222 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: penalties for nothing, for nothing at all, preseason or regular season. 223 00:14:55,760 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: You can count on Dallas for one thing, entertainment at 224 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: their own expense, and they did it yet again. 225 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maler 226 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific on 227 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 228 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: Hi. 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But it turns out that a 267 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: Nevada court has cleared the way for a lawsuit that 268 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 1: goes back not one, not two, not three, but four years, 269 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: go back to the year twenty twenty one. A lot 270 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: of craziness, a lot of people wearing masks and not 271 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: going out and weird stuff going on. But in twenty 272 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: twenty one, there was a lawsuit filed by John grud. 273 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: Now you know is that's an old NFL coach, John Gruden. 274 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: He coached the Raiders. Yeah, so John Gruden file lawsuit. 275 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: Whell A court Nevada has announced that that lawsuit now 276 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: can proceed against the National Football League and Commissioner Roger 277 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: the Dodger, Goodell Roger, the Dodger, who normally dodges these 278 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: type of lawsuits. Now, that suit alleged that a malicious 279 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: and orchestrated campaign was used by the NFL to destroy 280 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: John Gruden's career. You might remember the NFL famously strategically 281 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: leaking all the emails that he had sent, including the 282 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: things that hit all the big ones, racism, misogynistic activity, 283 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: homophobic comments, the big three right there by John Gruden, 284 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: and old emails that were strategically leaked by the NFL. 285 00:18:54,880 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: That's the claim. So the Nevada Supreme Court, that's right, 286 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: the Nevada Supreme Court did they cover area fifty one. Also, 287 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: they ruled five to two, what even close. Five to 288 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: two was the ruling. And they said that the arbitration 289 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: clause in the NFL constitution is let's just say non kosher, 290 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: that's my term for it, but it does not apply 291 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: to John Gruden. They claimed as a former employee, that 292 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: Gruden was not an employee of the NFL at the 293 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: time the emails were sent. There for he is not 294 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: under the bylaws of the NFL. Now, Gruden his lawyers 295 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: react to the NFL. Their lawyers, they declined comment on 296 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: this particular rule. Did not comment, did not comment. John 297 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: Gruden's lawyer say that this will help quote hold the 298 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: NFL accountable. Okay, so let us discuss the question for 299 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: the esteem panel. John Gruden, certainly this is a win. 300 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: Whether he wins the final battle, this is a win 301 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: at this point for John Gruden. He wins this round. 302 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: John Gruden winning this round against the NFL in court. 303 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on these latest developments the Supreme 304 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: Court of Nevada siding against against the NFL and in 305 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: favor of John Gruden. So I've got the Jenga Tower, 306 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: Morgan Spurlock, and cosplay, and we will combine all of 307 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: these things together and put a billboard up that says 308 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: who hurt you? Because every time I drive one by 309 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: one of those, I just want to laugh. I just laugh. 310 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: I just chuckle. I do uh. Anyway, So my first 311 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: thought on this and the latest developments is the plot 312 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: thickens do do do do do do do do do 313 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: do do doo? Uh. It's finger Byton time. It's finger 314 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: Byton time for the NFL. Now, I did send some 315 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: correspondence out to people that work in that world. They 316 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: don't seem too concerned. They don't seem to concerned that 317 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: it's that hubris of the NFL. Wow, we'll ultimately win this. 318 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: It's just going to delay the inevitable. So I would argue, 319 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: though there is some finger biting going on because you 320 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: don't know what you don't know, and for right now, 321 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: with worry about right now, this is a seismic shift. 322 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: The NFL was not counting on to the world order 323 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: of the National Football League. John Gruten, the guy who 324 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: they tried to have disappear from the face of the earth, 325 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: is back. Yeah, and he's got a for now, a 326 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: wrecking ball, a wrecking ball in his hand. It's like 327 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,479 Speaker 1: a Hollywood special, Worlds Collide, World's Collide. You got the 328 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: little guy, the disgraced former hero, John Gruden, who comes 329 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: back from the dead, comes back from the dead, and 330 00:21:55,800 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: now now he's got the villain, a big, big football, 331 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: big NFL on the ropes. It's if you combine like 332 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: Rocky and then you're throw in some sopranos in there. 333 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 1: It's got a little bit of that, a little bit 334 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: of that. Roger Goodell is in danger of getting the 335 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: bitter taste of his own medicine. Like the NFL tried 336 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: to erase John Gruden and now Goodell. You think there's 337 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: anything in his emails? You think Goodell sent any text 338 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: messages that might be considered I don't know, racist or 339 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: misogynistic or homophobic anywhere along the way. I'm just asking, 340 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe not. He's perfect, He's the archangel, 341 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: he would have never done anything like that at all. 342 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: The reason I bring that up is because the discovery 343 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: phase will be a hum dinger. A humdinger. Most knowledgeable 344 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: people who have looked at the case will tell you 345 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: that is more likely than not based on the prepondence 346 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: of the evidence that the NFL leaked to hand picked, 347 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,719 Speaker 1: hand picked friends of the NFL that are in that 348 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,239 Speaker 1: New York bubble, the Wall Street Journal and the New 349 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: York Times, the emails. Now, now Gruden gets to go 350 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: into discovery at this point, this is where we are. 351 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 1: He's gonna go in discovery and see what skeletons, uh, 352 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: he can find in the closets at the NFL. 353 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 6: And they have really big walk in closets, I mean massive, 354 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 6: and the whole wing of the house is a closet, 355 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 6: and they man, is that a big closet. 356 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: They can go in there and snoop around. And so 357 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: at this point Gruden not just knocking on the door. 358 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: He's not knocking on the door. He's got the keys 359 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: and he's gonna he's gonna have all the lights on, 360 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: turn them all on, go through everything. And it's not 361 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: just about John Gruden and some dirty emails. This is 362 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: about the entire power structure of the NFL. And that's 363 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: why this is so fascinating. This f's everything up. They 364 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: for years have had a choke hold on anyone that 365 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: dares fight them. And this is a look behind the curtain, 366 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: if it goes the way it's going right now, where 367 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: John Gruden can reveal a lot of warts, a lot 368 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: of interesting imperfections in the NFL world. And so the 369 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: Nevada Supreme Court, in so many words I'll sum it up, 370 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,719 Speaker 1: told the NFL you cannot be both the judge and 371 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: the jury. That's essentially what they said. That's how I 372 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: interpret it. You can't have your sock puppet Commissioner Roger 373 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: Goodell arbitray a case where he's one of the defendants 374 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: in the case like that's not how you do this here. 375 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: And it's so simple, yet it is so beautiful at 376 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: the same time. I don't know what your position is. 377 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: My position is. It's simple, it's logical, and it's beautiful. 378 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: It's kind of like in some shady neighborhood boxing match 379 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: and you find out that you're watching the boxing match 380 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: and it just turns out that the referee in the 381 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: boxing match happens to be the uncle of the fighter 382 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: who won the boxing match, like just a coincidence, you know, 383 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 1: It's just a weird thing. So the league's very bedrock, 384 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: the very bedrock of the NFL is built on this, 385 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: and so they do whatever they want whenever they want 386 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: in NFL circles. And if you don't like it and 387 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: you want to go to court and all that stuff, 388 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: you can take it to their little kangaroo court and 389 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 1: they always win. They always win. It's like going to 390 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: Moscow and suing the government in Russia. Okay, you can 391 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: do that. You're not going to win. You're not going 392 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: to win. And so now the whole wobbly Jenga tower, 393 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: the whole giant Jenga tower, is shaking a little. It's 394 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: shaking a little bit right now Gruden has for now, 395 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: because of this Supreme Court in Nevada, he has kicked 396 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: one of the main legs of the Jenga tower and 397 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: he's he's kind of kicked it down a little bit. 398 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: So the NFL is essentially a mob family, right, I mean, 399 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 1: in so many words my understanding of what the old 400 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: mob was. And it's still mobs around and all that, 401 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: but essentially the mob, right, they do things, but they 402 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: don't do things by the book, and they've got their 403 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 1: own book there. And the great Brent Musburger Hall of 404 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: Fame broadcaster Brent musburg you're looking live, Brent Musburger said 405 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: of John Gruden. He was the Raider radio play by 406 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: play guy at the time all this went down. And 407 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: Musburger said, of John Gruden's removal as the Raiders coach, 408 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,239 Speaker 1: he called it. This is Brent Musburger, a guy who 409 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: worked in the NFL since like the sixties. He said, 410 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: professional hit job. That's Brent Musburger. Hall of Famer Brent 411 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: Musburger said the NFL took down John Gruden on it 412 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: a professional hit job by a paid assassin is how 413 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: Musburger said it. They didn't use the usual media goombas. 414 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: Now the usual media goombas are state sponsored NFL media, 415 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: the network the NFL gets sold to ESPN or anyone 416 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: works at ESPN who's in the tank for the NFL. 417 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 1: So instead, as we mentioned, they went to the Wall 418 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:21,959 Speaker 1: Street Journal, they went to the New York Times. That's 419 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,959 Speaker 1: where they went to. And so now the tables have turned. 420 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: So they've turned, and the NFL peeps, we would imagine 421 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: we're going to start singing like canaries some of the 422 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: people involved in this if it gets to the discovery phase, 423 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: because emails will get exposed and text messages and they're 424 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: going to try to do the old cya cover your ass, 425 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,719 Speaker 1: and that's what everyone does now. Page two. So where 426 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: where does the NFL go now to avoid publicly being 427 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 1: pansd publicly being pantsed by John Gruden in the discovery 428 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 1: phase of a court case. So what does the NFL 429 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 1: do here? So they have to get out the manny 430 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: and the petty They have to give the manny in 431 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: the petty discotus. That is where this is going. Next. 432 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: The NFL will file a formal appeal, which means lawyers 433 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: will get some more money. They're on retainer anyway, So 434 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: the NFL is gonna file a formal petition I guess, 435 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: not really appeal, but petition for appeal, which is an appeal, 436 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: but it's a petition for a pick. So they're going 437 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: to file a petition to the United States Supreme Court, 438 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: the highest court in the land. And if the Supreme 439 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: Court does not take the case, and they don't take 440 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: most cases, they don't take most cases, all right, or 441 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: if they do take the case and they rule in 442 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: favor of John Gruden, meaning the NFL loses loser capitale 443 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: l that means it is on like don't keet caong. 444 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: We're talking about the discovery phase. So listen to the NFL. 445 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: I mentioned I'd put some feelers out and then just 446 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: the early vibe I got was hubris. That's my word, 447 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: that not their word. But there's an arrogance that they're 448 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: gonna win in the Supreme Court and all that stuff. 449 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: The nl is not stupid. They're not smart, but they're 450 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: not stupid, and they know that the discovery phase will 451 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: be a blood bath for them and if we get there, 452 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: and so they're gonna try to cut it off at 453 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: the pass if they have to. Now they assume they're 454 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: gonna win because they'll just do what everyone does in 455 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: these cases, and a massage from some politicians, and that's 456 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: how it goes. And then at the other side of it, 457 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: the other option would be to work out of court 458 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: settlement with John Gruden a big bag of cash. I'm 459 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: talking the late Morgan Spurlock and supersize me. I'm talking 460 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: John Gruden's lawyers cooking up what do you want, John? 461 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: You want thirty forty fifty million dollars whatever you want. 462 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: The NFL is gonna pay it. You know, it's a 463 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: tax for the NFL. They'll pay it. And Gruden, you know, 464 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: he had said the quote that it keeps coming up 465 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: is he wants to burn the house down. So he's 466 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: going to tell them to shove it. You would assume, right, 467 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: I don't need your money. I got enough. Gruden's rich. 468 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: You paid way too much money to do bad television 469 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: and all that, so he's got a lot of money. 470 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: So if it's not about the money, it's about your reputation, 471 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: it's about the principal, and he was humiliated and all 472 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: that stuff, and he wants his pound a flash, and 473 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: then what's the NFL going to do. You know, he 474 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: can't settle. Gruden cannot settle, right, he can't do that. 475 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: The NFL made sure that he was radioactive. So what 476 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: Gruden could do is make Roger Goodell radioactive. There is 477 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: a scenario where Gruden, this lawsuit goes forward, Goodell ends 478 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: up losing his job as the commissioner of the NFL. 479 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: That there's definitely some skeletons there somewhere if you dig 480 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,959 Speaker 1: deep enough in those nice walking closets, and you can 481 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: get rid of Roger Goodell. And so at this point, 482 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,959 Speaker 1: John Gruden's got the league by the ball. He's got 483 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: him by the balls. And just like the man said 484 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: a famous quote, what do you do when you've got 485 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: him by the balls? You squeeze, and you keep squeezing 486 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: until their hearts and minds follow, and there you go. 487 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: You're on your way. Good luck on that, all right? Now, 488 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: the last word on this. We'll put the baby to 489 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: bed on this, John Gruden. So you will get your 490 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: calls if you want to react to it, and comments 491 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: and all that. But what kind last word here? What 492 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,479 Speaker 1: kind of a package deal? Oh, what kind of a 493 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: package deal could get John Gruden, who has said that 494 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: he wants, and again his quote was, he wants to 495 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: burn the house down. So what kind of package deal 496 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: could get John Gruden to take a settlement from the NFL. 497 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: As a distant relative of Nostradamus and friend of Nostradinas, 498 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: he lives in Seattle. He doesn't really react to the 499 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: show very much anymore. But I've done the investigative work. 500 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: I've done the investigative work. So we're talking about Roger 501 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: Goodell doing some cosplay in this world. I believe in 502 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: the multiverse, So in this part of the multiverse, there's 503 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: some cosplay and Roger Goodell he addresses up as the 504 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: old Hollywood star Marlon Brando from back in the day 505 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: in The Godfather and says, I'm gonna make him an 506 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: offer he can't refuse John Gruden. And it's about Gruden 507 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: getting back in the game. The money's one thing. Gruden 508 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: not need the money. He's rich, He's made a lot 509 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: of money for a long time, so he's financially set 510 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: in that regard. In the multiverse, though, you get not 511 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: only the cartoon sized check for say fifty million dollars. 512 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: That's after taxes, After taxes, fifty million dollars, you look around. 513 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: You got Pete Carroll who's beginning his first year with 514 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: the team in Las Vegas, and he's the oldest coach 515 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: in the NFL. He clearly has lost it. He brought 516 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: Geno Smith in, who sucks as the Raiders quarterback. So 517 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: and we like Pete. Pet's you a nice guy and 518 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: all that, Pollyanna Pete. However, however, John Gruden, what's the 519 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: one thing he would love to have more than anything. 520 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: The job that he had that he thought he was 521 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: gonna have for another seven or eight years. He signed 522 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: that ten year contract to be the coach of the Raiders. 523 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: So John Gruden, with that big, greasy smile on his 524 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: face from ear to ear, cheshire cat smile, heads back 525 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: to Sin City coach of the Raiders. And Goodell can 526 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: make it happen, is anlisten and do us a solid here. 527 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: We'll give you the money. We'll get you the Raider 528 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: coaching job. In fact, we'll get you whatever job you 529 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: want in the NFL. You want, what job do you want? 530 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: It makes too much sense, John Gruden returning as coach 531 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: of the Raiders. And you can see it now, the 532 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: charismatic John Gruden saying Bygones, be Bygones back on the 533 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: sidelines there with Mark Davis is giving him a hug. 534 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: They go out to dinner at PF. Chang's and they 535 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: get the orange Chicken. They have a great time. I 536 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 1: remember Mark David said he never wanted to get rid 537 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: of John Gruden. In fact, if I remember Correfy doing 538 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: the show and being in the watchdower at that time. 539 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: The first email dump happened on like a Thursday or 540 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: a Friday, the John Gruden email dump. Gruden coached the 541 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: Raiders against the Chicago Bears, and then a second a 542 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: second wave of emails were dump because the first one 543 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: didn't work. So whoever at the NFL, in my opinion, 544 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: you can't sume me for my opinion. Some of the 545 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: NFL said, all right, this didn't work. We got more email, 546 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 1: send those out to the other newspaper that we don't 547 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: normally do business with, and you know, we'll take down. 548 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: And that worked. The second one worked. That's it. He 549 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 1: was gone. But Mark Davis didn't want to get rid 550 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: of John Gruden. He was forced to, so he can 551 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 1: Goodell can unforce it and bring him back and save 552 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: his own ass. At the same time, because there's stuff 553 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: in those emails for Goodell, and he'd be gone and 554 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 1: Gruden can stick it to the NFL's a here, I'm back. 555 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? 556 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 2: Now? 557 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: I'm back? And of course I don't think it's a 558 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: pipe tree. I don't believe it's a piper. This is 559 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 1: John Gruden's ultimate revenge. So either you tear down the 560 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: entire league, get rid of Goodell and a bunch of 561 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: other executives because you release the emails, or you take 562 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 1: NFL money fifty million, let's say maybe it's more than that. 563 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 1: They have going low at fifty million, and you take 564 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 1: the money and then you get whatever NFL coachingw you want. 565 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: It's yours, hand delivered done. 566 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Meller 567 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 2: Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. 568 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: Oswago mar contestants for the game. We have some people 569 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: standing by here. John is in Paradise. Something to assume. 570 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: That's Nevada where all the casinos are? No? Oh, California, Paradise, California. 571 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: Where's Paradise. Where's Paradise, California? Where is that about ten 572 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: miles north of Chico? Oh? When you think paradise, You 573 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: think Chico, north of Chico, that is paradise. Yeah, absolutely, yes, absolutely? 574 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: All right, Well John, welcome and you let's see here. Now, 575 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: what are you up to? You working? Are you just 576 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: driving around randomly? What's going on? Just my girlfriend's house? 577 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,439 Speaker 1: Oh look at that. That sounds like a booty called 578 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 1: to me late night fun there, you know, took care 579 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: of business, your big stud, John, Right. 580 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 2: Come on, maybe maybe the exact opposite that way. 581 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: That chicked out of the house at two in the morning. 582 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 1: Almost that sucks. That's all right, I understand, I gotcha. 583 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: Well it happens. So we'll see now, John, would you 584 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: like to play with myself Ben as your partner or 585 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 1: coop a loop mood you want, then I'll play with you. 586 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: That's how I played. I played with Eddie. We did good. 587 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: If you really want to make your girlfriend mad, you 588 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: can play with me. Yeah, right, hello John. Unfortunately Eddie 589 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: is not available. He's not working here right now, so 590 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 1: he's not we I did invite Eddie to the mall 591 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: or meet and greet. I don't think he's gonna go. 592 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: I said you can come and hang out and we 593 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: have him, you know in Vegas, and I don't think 594 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: he's gonna show up, but I did invite him. All right, John, 595 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 1: we'll partner uphold on a second. We have Steve in 596 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 1: the Bay Area Hill Steve quickly, Steve Big Thicket. Well, 597 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: Steve in the Bay Area, welcome out. You want to 598 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 1: play with Coop? Yes, yeah, Coop quickly? All right, Coop 599 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: quickly one of the category. Hurry up? 600 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 7: All right, this is the casey Affleck edition. We have 601 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 7: two hundred cigarettes Ocean's eleven. I'm still here in Manchester 602 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 7: by the Sea. 603 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 1: John, what do you want? Quickly? I'm still here. I'm 604 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 1: still here. Steve, what do you want? All right? Hold on, 605 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: We'll get to Malor's mount of Money. We'll get to it. 606 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: We will do it next. 607 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 608 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 609 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 2: dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 610 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 2: listen live. Now, Malor's Mountain of Money? Do you have 611 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 2: what it takes to get to the top? Probably not? 612 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: And right to the game we go. We have John, 613 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: who's a little north of Cheeko and Paradise, California, teamed 614 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 1: up with me. He just had a disagreement with his girlfriend, 615 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: and so now he's calling sports radio and we have 616 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 1: Steve in the Bay Area. We don't know what Steve's 617 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 1: up to, but he's with Coop. So let's get to 618 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 1: the game right now. Here we go, and it is 619 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: the Casey Affleck edition turned to fifty today. All right, 620 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: so you picked I'm still here, Yes, John, These athletes 621 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 1: have all been all been professional athletes for fifteen plus years. 622 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: They're still playing. Are you ready? I'm going to be 623 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: all right on forty five seconds on the clock. We're 624 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: on our way go. Starting quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yes, Cory, 625 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 1: he won a Super Bowl. It was called the Elite 626 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: with the Ravens. He's the Browns quarterback right now. Yes. 627 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,720 Speaker 1: Starting pitcher for the San Francisco Giants. Longtime Detroit Tiger 628 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: played for the cheating Astros. Yes, last name is like Romance. 629 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: He played for the Minnesota Timberwolves, the Miami Heat, at 630 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cavaliers. He's a forward white guy out of U 631 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 1: c l A sure, Yes, that's right. A closer for 632 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: the Angels. He used to play with the Dodgers, played 633 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: with the Red Sox. All right, center for the ah 634 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:56,720 Speaker 1: You did hundred points. You didn't get Wenley Jansen James. 635 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 1: All right, Steve, we have Manchester by the Seed. These 636 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: athletes are from Massachusetts. Are you ready, Steve? 637 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:03,359 Speaker 2: I'm ready? 638 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 1: All right. 639 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,280 Speaker 7: Forty five seconds let's begin. Famous professional wrestler in movies, 640 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 7: not the Rock. You can't see him, No, all right, 641 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 7: a professional wrestler. He's in movies, but not the Rock. Yes, 642 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 7: all right. This guy is Terry Bradshaw's partner on the 643 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 7: NFL on Fox. He was a defensive end for the Raiders. Yes, 644 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 7: this guy was part of the Killer Bees in Houston. 645 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 7: Not Craig Beegio the other guy. Well say that the 646 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 7: whole name. Yes, this guy was a He led the 647 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 7: Seahawks to the Super Bowl in two thousand and five. 648 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:48,479 Speaker 7: With yes, Yes, good job. This guy was a white 649 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 7: guy on the bad Boy. 650 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: Piston that I think it's funny. All Right, we go next, quick, John, 651 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 1: What do you want? You want Ocean's eleven or two? 652 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 1: Order cigarettes? John? All right? These athletes were all known 653 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,840 Speaker 1: to smoke. Forty five seconds were on our way center 654 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 1: for the nineteen eighties Lakers. He played for the Sacramento Kings. 655 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 1: He's got a beard, was the GM of the Kings, 656 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: that is correct, manager of the Pirates. He was chained smoking. 657 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 1: Back in the eighties when he had Barry Bonds, he 658 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: managed the Detroit Tigers, Ben. She does not want that 659 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:25,720 Speaker 1: we won the game. 660 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,839 Speaker 3: Another win you congratulations John, the all time win