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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she

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Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and

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Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me

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Speaker 1: advice on many occasions. In occasion didn't notice, I'm not broke.

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Speaker 1: You know. He'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry

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Speaker 1: my man, Rashan McDonald Money Making Conversation. Give thanks Steven Hey.

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Speaker 1: Working to Money Making Conversation. I'm your host, Rashan McDonald.

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Speaker 1: I recognize that we all have different definitions of success.

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Speaker 1: For some, it's a sizeable paycheck. Mine is helping people

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Speaker 1: wake up and inspiring them to accomplish their goals and

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Speaker 1: live their very best life. These are my passion. That's

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Speaker 1: what I'm going to do for you. That's why I

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Speaker 1: created Money Making Conversations. I want you to stop tripping

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Speaker 1: over small challenges and prepared to rise above the bigger

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Speaker 1: obstacles the life will present to you. My next guess, Wow,

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Speaker 1: it's Taron Hall Harp for the syndicated show, which has

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Speaker 1: been renewed for a third season. Tamarin Hall Show, that

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Speaker 1: she executive produces, is a daily destination for viewers to

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Speaker 1: connect with people shaping our lives through meaningful, engaging, and

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Speaker 1: entertaining conversations that help heal and inform during these uncertain

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Speaker 1: pandemic times. This year, she won the Daytime Email Award

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Speaker 1: for Outstanding Informative Talk Show Host for her first season. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Tamer Show continues to be a conversational starter, past guests

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Speaker 1: including My Man, Steve Samuel Jackson, Melissa Etrid, David Arquette,

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Speaker 1: Tire Banks, Nellie, Michael Fisherman, Chris Evans, and Stars Like

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Speaker 1: a Girl Ninnie Lakes, among others. The second season Tamaron

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Speaker 1: Hall has been even bigger and more informative. Please welcome

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Speaker 1: to money making Conversations, Tamarin Hall. It's so good to

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Speaker 1: be with you. Hey, Tamar, set you up right, and

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Speaker 1: you know you're doing so much. I just say, I

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Speaker 1: gotta gotta get the intro, ride, gotta get the flows.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you did better than Wikipedia and my mother.

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Speaker 1: You're good. I'm a Texas boy born and raised in Houston, Texas,

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Speaker 1: so I know your background from Texas as well. So

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Speaker 1: how's life treating you right now? Being an Emmy award

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Speaker 1: window being picked up for things considered? You know, it's

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Speaker 1: so hard we're trying to answer that question these days,

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Speaker 1: as you know, because it's with everything that's happening in

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Speaker 1: you don't want to say I'm great, but all things considered,

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Speaker 1: I'm good. My family is healthy, my son is healthy,

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Speaker 1: and I have the show and a platforms just like

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Speaker 1: you to use our voice in the right way. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's really important, I know. You know, I launched Steve

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Speaker 1: for five years on in Chicago, and in fact, we

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Speaker 1: the difficulties of doing a talk show, and people don't

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Speaker 1: understand five days with the preparation. Can you just tell

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Speaker 1: people the difficult nature of the preparation that you have

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Speaker 1: to get into to do affortive two minute show at

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Speaker 1: it is like preparing for the NBA Finals every day.

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Speaker 1: It really it is. I mean, it's no joke. You

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Speaker 1: have got to constantly focus on the moment, focus on

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Speaker 1: the guests. It's rewarding because I'm so proud of the

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Speaker 1: conversations that we've been able to have on the show, UM,

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Speaker 1: from a Frank candidate conversation about women of color and

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Speaker 1: And so that bears a big responsibility bringing my staff

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Speaker 1: How has that I know you show what virtual, but personally,

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