WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: Chaka Bars Discusses Displacement In The Congo, Black Future, Pan-Africanism + More 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:02.560 Wake that answer in the morning. 0:00:02.680 --> 0:00:08.120 The Breakfast Club, yeps mos dangerous morning show to Breakfast Club, Charlamage. 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:10.360 The God just hilarious. We got a good brother in 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:11.160 here right now. 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:11.399 Man. 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:15.480 He goes on social media as Shaka bas what's the 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:16.400 full name Shaka? 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:22.000 My full name is Shakasha, I victorious. I m h'm 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:26.720 the rest of name. So Shaka from Chakazulu. You heard 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:33.160 about Shaka and then Asher twelve tribes at Israel, and 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:36.800 then I victorious. I wasn't was a title given to 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:40.960 me that I will be victorious so I would selling 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:43.280 my mom. She set me up before I even started, 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:45.320 like do good stuff. 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:47.199 How long you been living up to your name? When 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:48.800 did you say to yourself, I have to live up 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:49.279 to this name. 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:54.200 I mean I've been. I've been a warrior for a while, 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:56.320 but kind of the wrong one because when I was 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:59.840 a younger, like when I was sixteen, I joined the 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:05.319 British military, so I went to war in Iraq. I 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:10.720 did the warrior thing, but being a warrior for euro 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:16.080 colonizer imperialism is not the warrior that Shakazulu was. I 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:19.320 think actually living up to the name, like ten years 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:21.640 I've been doing work now in Africa and the Caribbean, 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:23.520 so ten years. 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:25.360 That's why I wanted to have you up here, man, 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:27.800 because I've been watching a lot of the work that 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:30.920 you've been doing in the Congo, and you're like the 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:33.440 only person I see, at least that I follow, who's 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:34.720 like shining a light. 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:36.279 On what's happening in the Congo. 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:38.399 So first first, I want to ask you what is 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:41.400 happening in the Congo and what made you what sparked 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:43.000 you to have to go out there and like want 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:44.120 to really put booths to the ground. 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:48.480 I think you know, all of these devices that we 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:50.720 see in front of us, they all have minerals in them, 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:53.000 and those minerals are coming from the Congo. And the 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:56.880 term smartphone was coined in nineteen ninety six at the 0:01:56.960 --> 0:02:02.080 same time, Congo is being invaded because of Cobo Kotan. 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:07.240 Well from my various minerals that I needed in the 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:13.640 tech industry, and I realized that we using these devices, 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:18.920 we are a tacit complicit in this supply chain of 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:22.760 suffering basically, and now you've got this whole You see 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:25.320 the rhetoric. Everybody's like it's a green tech revolution, and 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:28.680 everybody go green. But the green tech revolution has a 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:34.920 Black African human cost because since this invasion of Congo, 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:38.440 the major one was in nineteen ninety eight, there was 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:41.320 six million people dead between ninety ninety eight and two 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:41.960 thousand and. 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:44.800 Three, and it started in ninety. 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:50.079 Four with the Rwandan genocide, right thousand people, eight hundred thousand. 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:53.360 But the thing about the Rwandan genocide that not so 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:58.359 many people are speaking about, and I sent Winston Jukes 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:01.000 some messages about it because he's now citizen of Rwanda, 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:04.840 and we see that Kendrick went to go perform in Rwanda, 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:11.760 is that the Rwandan genocide then led to a subsequent 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:14.320 genocide of the Congo which has been going on and 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:17.919 has not finished yet. And so Rwanda has been able 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:25.600 to develop now basically being the client for their friends 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:29.079 in Europe and the Middle East. So where people think, 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:33.480 you know, it's fine, and that's the most progressive country 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:36.640 in Africa, right next door there's a war and there's 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:39.600 a genocide. And I've been in that war. So where 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:43.600 it's almost like how you have Israel and Palisine now right, 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:47.880 so you have this whole all right. Israel's very progressive 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:51.280 and great healthcare and all of these things, and then 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:56.200 right next door it's like super genocide and that's what's 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:57.720 going on in Congo and has been going on in 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:02.800 Congo because the world needs tech and most countries, in fact, 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:04.880 all countries in the world do not have the same 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:09.480 amount of minerals as Congo has. It's two point four 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:15.119 million kilometers square. It if you stuck Congo in California, 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:18.400 it would reach Texas. That's how big, right when they 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:21.719 tell you how you know, they talk about Africa like 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:25.599 it's a small continent just somewhere down there, just one 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:31.760 country in Africa is half the size of North America, right, 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:38.520 And so it's so big that the different superpowers have 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:42.160 been dividing it up for many, many years, and obviously 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:48.080 there's gonna be collaborators. You know. We say that, oh, 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:53.560 king folk ain't skin folk or I think personally, or 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:58.080 all skin folk ae kin folk, I think personally. The 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:02.240 genocide that we're witnessing now is the greatest humanitarian crisis 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:02.760 of our time. 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:04.200 Six million people. 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:07.599 Right, No, six million people between nineteen eight eight to 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:09.200 two thousand and three. 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:09.880 Wow. 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:15.000 Subsequently, since since then, there's been people dying every single day, 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:18.200 every single month, every single week since then. So, like 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:21.920 I've been working in Congo now for eight years, and 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:25.760 just in the last two years that I've been working there, 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:31.200 there's been hundreds of thousands of people have lost their lives. 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:35.360 As well as these people losing their lives, there has 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:40.160 been around another two million people displaced. So right now 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:45.680 the population of Congo that is displaced is around seven 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:49.359 and a half million. The population of the population of 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:51.800 displaced people in Congo is nearly the same population of 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:55.640 New York City. Wow, I put it into scale for you. 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:57.080 It's kind of big. 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:00.560 So you've been there eight years and you said that 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.400 that has happened in the last two years. Would would 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:06.599 you say is most challenging and helping the people, you know, 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:10.839 since helping the people of Congo like obstacles d overcome. 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:16.800 The fact that because it's black people, nobody cares. That's 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:21.080 really so it's like where we see what was going 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:22.839 on in Ukraine and the whole world has to speak 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:25.840 about it. Where we see what is going on now 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:29.479 in Palestine, and because of its relationship with Israel, and 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:33.480 because of Israel's relationship with North America, everybody speaking about it. 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:38.599 The fact that we can have nearly in the last 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:41.640 twenty five years, nearly ten people, sorry, nearly ten million 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:44.720 people dead. And it's not popular news, it's not taught 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:47.839 in school. Is that's the most challenging thing. It's like 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:50.240 this hidden thing. It's like this under the radar thing. 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:56.480 And if I told you in North America or in 0:06:56.520 --> 0:07:00.480 Mexico or in Ukraine, that the population of New York 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:03.160 was displaced, and when they're when I mean they're displaced, 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:05.160 I mean they're living in a tent and the tent 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:09.400 has been made from a plastic sheet and some woodsticks. 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.040 They don't have running water, they don't have electricity, they 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:15.119 don't have basic health care, they don't have hardly any food. 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:16.960 So people are starving to death every day, like we 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:21.640 see people dying every day. And if I was to 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:25.400 if I was to drive you from where we are 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:29.280 right now, fifty fifth Street, I think if I was 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:31.680 to drive you from here down to where I was 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.680 last night, eighth Street, and the whole way, you would 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:38.160 just see people displaced. You'd be like, what is going 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:40.640 on here? And people don't go there. That's the other 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:45.440 thing is there is many people who speak about Congo 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:48.880 now or more people speaking about Congo, they don't go. Like, 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:52.960 as much as I love my brothers and sisters for 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:56.600 speaking about it as well as speaking about it, go 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:59.000 there and help out or figure out a way. Because 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:00.960 the thing is that it's not necessarily that you need 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.560 to go there and do something. Just go there and 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:06.160 take your phone and show people what's going on, because 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:09.240 get the word out. Because this if this phone, if 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:12.320 these devices are created from the minerals from there, and 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:14.000 we all have one, and we're all going to have 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:17.960 the whatever's coming out, right, then why is it that 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:24.360 you know, we speak about the Holocaust in Germany of 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:28.280 the Nazis and we say never again, right, and that 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:33.480 is drilled into us, into movies, into narratives and rhetoric. Right. 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:39.520 Why has more people the most people in the world 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.680 since the Cold War have died in Congo and the 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:44.240 rest of the world is not speaking about it. So 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:48.560 in the last fifty years, Congo's deaths have have have 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:51.400 equated to more than all of the world wars and 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:57.280 conflicts combined, Wow with Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, et cetera, et cetera. 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:01.040 And we're not speaking about it because black African people, 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:04.120 if these were white people if these were light skinned people. 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:07.440 And the thing is is we have to be the 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:10.600 ones that speak about it because it's only black people 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:12.240 who are going to care the most about black people. 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:14.840 If we don't care, then nothing's going to get spoken about. 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:19.680 And I think that the problem with capitalism is it 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.520 hides its deficits. Right. So, yeah, there's a green tech 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:26.680 revolution and we might be able to do some carbon offsetting, right, 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:30.640 but there's seven million, nearly eight million people displaced because 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:33.480 of it. So it's like, do we want do we 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:38.440 want that as a solution if we're gonna see in 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:40.720 our time, we're going to see one of the biggest 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:43.800 genocides and biggest displacements of people. So I think that's 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:45.120 that's the biggest problem for me. 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:47.040 Yeah, and that's the other component to it. 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:47.200 Right. 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:48.640 The other component is you have all of. 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:51.160 These different countries who are benefiting for what's going on 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.400 in the Congo, and people are not going to be 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:56.240 willing to give up their technology sadly in this world. 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:58.360 That's you know, we live in a capital society, but 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:02.080 everything else is on capitalism. People are going to say, okay, yeah, 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:03.760 we know those people are going through that, but you 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:05.360 need laptops. 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:06.560 No, but it's true. 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:11.640 It's true. But at the same time, as as as 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:16.679 we always say, you can get the minerals stop killing people, Like, 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:22.240 why is it if you discovered gold you're from Baltimore, right, 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:24.960 Imagine if there was there was a gold mine in Baltimore. 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.400 Why does half the population in Baltimore now have to 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:30.240 be displaced because of that gold mine. It seems like 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:33.679 it's only Africa where resources are a curse. Everywhere else 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:36.440 the resources is great. It's great to be used there. 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:39.360 And at the same time, when we try and get 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:45.160 these messages out, shout out to to Julie Meta at 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:48.320 Instagram because she's helping me out. The accounts that speak 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.199 about this the most of the most censored. Right, So 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:56.280 like every single product within Instagram I basically can't use 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:58.720 and I've used. I built a whole village in Congo, right, 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:03.000 we care for around one hundred Offen children. But every 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:05.800 single product I haven't been able to go live for 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:06.720 seven months? 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:07.120 Wow? 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:14.760 Right, subscriptions, No, can't send broadcast messages out, can't what 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:19.160 other things? When people share my stories, it mentions this 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:23.280 person has repeatedly posted false information. If you want to 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:25.000 try and follow me. You don't follow me, but if 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:26.360 you want to try and follow me, it's going to 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:29.560 give you a warning before you follow me. And this 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:33.000 is the same thing as from what I can see, 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:35.240 this is the same thing as cointail pro is like 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:38.280 silence black leaders, stop the rise of a black nation. 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:42.040 And this is the third point of cointail pro. Stop 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:47.120 the the communication of African Americans because of how much 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:51.319 your GDP is worth and Africans on the content, stop 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:55.240 that work together. Because if you look at New York, 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:57.280 for instance, New York is a population of eight million, 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:01.840 one point three trillion, right. If you look at you're 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:07.640 from Carolina, right, Calina. If you look at Carolina and 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:10.839 you look at the GDP of Carolina, I got it 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:13.880 written down here. You look at the GDP of Carolina, 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:16.760 and then I thought envy was going to be here 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:21.319 as well. I combined the three GDPs of Carolina, Baltimore, 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:26.680 and New York State. New York, New York State is 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:30.040 twenty million people, and it's a it's a GDP of 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:34.000 two trillion, right, and then when you look at when 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:37.080 you add Baltimore to that, and you add Maryland to that, 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:40.559 it's five hundred billion, right, and then if you add 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:45.240 South Carolina to that and the GDP of Colombia, that's 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:52.400 another three hundred billion. Right. The entire GDP of the 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:54.920 entire continent of Africa, which is around one point four 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:59.120 billion people, is two point seven trillion. So three states 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:03.200 in America have the same GDP as the entire continent 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:07.560 of Africa. And we know that Africa's resource reach, So 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:09.480 then what is the system that's being set up? Because 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:12.160 it's not just Congo, There's many countries that is happening 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:14.720 in and so when we try and speak about this, 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:19.160 we're always being censored. And I'm sure they'll work it out. 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:22.080 Because if I wasn't able to use Instagram the way 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:24.120 that I've used Instagram, then I wouldn't have been able 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:25.560 to do the things that I've been able to do, 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:32.880 Because why are you going to as white imperialist structures, 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:35.559 Why are you going to elect somebody who's speaking about 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:37.360 the same things that you're benefiting from. You're not going 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:40.080 to do that. Yeah, but black people see me and 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:41.600 they're like, well, we want to know about what's going 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.040 on in Congo. We got phones, we want to know 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:49.040 about this stuff. And so I would implore everybody. Years ago, 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:52.880 I set up a charity called iHeart Africa because Congo 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:55.040 is the heart shacker of Africa's right in the center 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:58.839 of Africa. I set up this charity and since then 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:04.400 we've cared for around around two hundred children for like 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:08.480 eight years. But it's a drop in the ocean. And 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:13.800 what I would say is is African Americans being involved 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:20.080 in African business, African philanthropic efforts are not going to 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:22.000 do it for nefarious reasons. They're going to do it 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:24.640 because they see you see a little Congolese kid, You'd 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:27.560 be like, that could be my kid, right, And that 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:31.360 in itself is going to do something. Whereas when people 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:34.400 are going there with this colonial mindset, they're going there 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:36.880 as let's go and help these poor stuff in Africans 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:40.160 at the same time as stealing diamonds, stealing gold, stealing coltan. 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:43.360 Because the reality is it's not Africans that control this. 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:48.080 Right now, they're out of the nineteen minds that mine 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:52.760 Cootan in Congo, fifteen of them owned by Chinese. And 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:56.720 I'm not going to come on here and talk about Chinese, 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:58.560 but I am going to say that they are going 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:01.400 to do for their own people first, and so we 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:03.560 should do for our own people first. Because the other 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:08.960 thing is I've seen Baltimore that is like poverty, like crazy. 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:13.200 I'm not saying the whole of Baltimore, but I'm saying 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:14.560 some of them stoops the. 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:17.160 Wire. 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:21.880 But there's no reason why with the port there that 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:25.600 people should be so impoverished. Right And and this is 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:27.840 what Marcus Garvey was trying to do with his black 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:30.880 style liner. There should be a shipping company. There should 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.720 be an airport that's black owned. There should be black 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:36.760 owned commerce coming from Africa to the port in Baltimore, 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:40.960 and vice versa. Trade should be done directly. Shouldn't have 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:43.320 to do trade with the government that's going to steal 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:48.200 from you anyway, because I mean, shit, if it's like 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:50.240 if we if we get into talking about government, I 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:57.200 I know that you guys sometimes have political people on here. 0:15:57.200 --> 0:16:01.440 Often at the same time as all of the things 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:04.080 that I've just said are happening. It was funded by 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:07.240 the US government, like they literally funded it and went 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:10.280 in there and are protecting their interests, et cetera, et cetera. 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:13.800 And we argue about this stuff often. Should you vote 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:18.400 Republican should you vote Democrat. And it's like it's like 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:22.520 we say in Rasta is like in fact, indigenous people 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:24.360 say this, but rast of people say this as well. 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:27.760 Is two wings of the same bird is still the 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:31.680 same bird. And when we're giving these systems to vote on, 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.440 we're not given an opportunity to actually create change. We're 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:39.240 just given an opportunity to reinstate the same system with 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:41.840 a blue or a red symbolism on it. 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:46.120 And because throughout the world nothing changes, regardless of who 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:49.040 is in the White House, their interests will be their 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:52.640 interest right, regardless of it has an interest who is 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:55.320 in that that that white House Republican, Democratic. 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:58.920 But I'm speaking to Black America because because Black America 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.880 is powerful enough to be able to make its own 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:04.240 decisions for what it wants to do with its own destiny. 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:07.680 And I mean, you see the exodus to Ghana right now, 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:12.480 Like right now, me and my friends shout out to 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:15.520 I don't even know if I can announce it. Yeah, 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:17.359 but we're about to start building a city in Ghana, 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:20.439 like a whole city amazing for the diaspora to go 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:24.440 home to. And we were there like a few weeks 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:28.600 ago and living nice like living nice. 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:31.000 You've been to Ghana, yes, love it. 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:35.560 Right right right and then and then imagine you don't 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:38.639 experience any racism the whole time that you're there. Like 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:40.560 if the police stop you, they're asking you how your 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:43.600 day is. If the police stop you in America, you 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:45.600 might catch a straight You. 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:47.639 Don't know how it's gonna go based on what kind 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:50.040 of day they're having, right right, right right. 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:53.040 In Ghana, the police can't flex like that. In Ghana. 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:55.359 I think the last time, I think a soldier shot 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:59.520 somebody and shouldn't have shot that person. The people went 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:01.240 out and dry demand to the street and killed him. 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:04.280 You can't be doing that in Africa. The way that 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:07.960 the way that things running the West is very different 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:09.560 to the way that things run in Africa. 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:10.879 And even if you steal, like you go to the 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:13.760 markets and it's a word they yell out I can't remember, 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:15.119 but if you steal, they yell out. 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:17.400 This word yeah, and everybody will lich you, everybody beat 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:20.879 you up. Don't don't be stealing, you know, yeah, or 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:24.760 if you be stealing, don't get caught. And then we 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:27.600 go back to the government. They get caught stealing, like 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:31.320 this whole banking bailout. Thing that happened every It happens 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:34.080 every eight years every time as a financial crisis. Like 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:37.880 I saw. I was walking through New York a few 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:40.800 days ago, and I saw not actually I just came 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:43.199 from Jamaica, but the last time I was here a 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:45.240 few weeks ago, I was walking through New York and 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:50.240 I saw that American people are thirty four trillion in debt, Yeah, 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:54.199 in debt to who who are you in debt to? 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:56.480 And then you have to think about if you're thirty 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:58.720 four trillion in debt because Africa is a cash system, 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:01.240 as you know, here is a credit system, you're thirty 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:04.600 four trillion dollars in debt, which means that you are 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:07.919 spending money you don't have. Then who is doing that 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:12.439 labor for you? Where is that being exported to? Obviously Africa, China, India, 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:19.360 et cetera. And the reality is that where where there's 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:22.720 like this, this this massive amount of censorship for speaking 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:26.080 about the things that are real. The things that are 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:29.879 I want to say that they're bullshit, But the things 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:32.400 that I don't think we should speak about so much are, 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:36.080 for instance, what is going to dominate the airwaves for 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:39.680 the next month maybe is Kendrick versus Drake's right, who 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:40.240 gives a shit? 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:42.480 I just read an article on Rolling Stone and it 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:44.600 was talking about how it's hard to care about the 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:46.439 rat War when it's the real war going on. 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:51.320 Yeah, and that was probably referring to Palaestinis. There's five 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:54.520 million people just placed in Sudan. There's an ongoing conflict 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:58.960 that's been financed by the West in Somalia. There are 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:04.960 millillions of people displaced in Yemen, South Sudan, wars back 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:08.760 and forth. We're looking at like we're looking at one 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:12.360 of the biggest humanitarian crisis of our time in Central 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:16.600 East Africa, and we are worried about who's got better borrows. 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:19.000 And if you look at it, let's be honest, rap 0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:21.440 battles has just grown men spitting poetry to each other. 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:25.920 Frankly Kendrick right, But it is it's like you make 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:28.960 it sound so romantic. I mean, I mean, if you're 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:33.160 taking the time to go back and forth and research 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:36.239 somebody and write poetry about them, I mean, I don't know. 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:37.240 Maybe I don't know. 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:41.200 Listen, they say popping as sexy. 0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:48.280 All I'm saying is is there's real wars going on. 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:51.440 In the world. And I've been doing this work for 0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:55.520 nearly ten years now. I started when I left the military. 0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:59.439 I started doing boxing. Well, I was boxing in the military, 0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:01.960 but I was doing boxing to raise money to do 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:05.840 these things. And I've been in war zones in Somalia, 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:08.879 in Congo, real gunshots going off, real bombs. We had 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:11.879 to evacuate kids and all kinds of stuff, right, Seeing 0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:16.200 bodies full of seeing trucks full of bodies. Right, my 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:20.399 phone's not ringing, My phone's not ringing. So people are seeing. 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:24.840 If I start rapping, but start rapping about all of 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:27.240 a sudden, everybody's did like, you know about you know 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:30.639 what's going on in Congo. And for me, I'm like, 0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:37.560 are we? Are we the black bourgeoisie, and are we 0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:41.159 the raccoons that our slave masters wanted us to be? 0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:42.440 Are we the house negroes? 0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:43.320 Or what is the black? 0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:47.560 So the black bourgeoisie is a class that's been created 0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:53.520 basically to run errands for white people. The black bourgeoisi 0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:59.879 class essentially are the black elites. They work for the 0:22:00.880 --> 0:22:03.679 powers that be to maintain the status quo, to maintain 0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:06.280 the order of what is going on. And if you 0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:09.560 look at the black bourgeoisie. They usually have everything to 0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:13.840 say and nothing changes. The most opinionated because they have 0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:15.880 the phones, they have the platforms, et cetera, et cetera. 0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:20.440 And I've been an activist for a long time, and 0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:22.920 so when I look at that class of people, I'm like, well, 0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:26.200 say talking shit, say whatever you want to say, but 0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:29.919 put some little money towards moving some of these things forward. 0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:30.480 What are you doing? 0:22:30.680 --> 0:22:31.200 What are you doing? 0:22:31.240 --> 0:22:32.480 I say that all the time. And it's not a 0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:34.959 party thing. It don't matter. It's not conservative all liberoos. 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:38.160 Just like these people talk talk, talk, talk so much 0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:40.240