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Speaker 2: Uh Fox Sports Saturday. The NBA Playoff edition is here.

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Speaker 2: the playing round is over and uh we got it.

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Speaker 2: I mean we got the matchups. We're gonna go through

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Speaker 2: all the matchups. Heavy hoop day heavy, NBA day. Well fellas. Uh,

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Speaker 2: today one o'clock from my fair city, Philadelphia, where it's

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Speaker 2: the Sixers and the Nets, and uh that's the early

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Speaker 2: game today, one o'clock eastern, tenth Pacific. And then then

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Speaker 2: we follow suit Hawks and Celtics, and then the two

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Speaker 2: best series. I think of the first round, you got

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Speaker 2: the Cavaliers and the Knicks, and I gotta tell you,

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Speaker 2: I think that's a toss up series. I think it's

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Speaker 2: a great series. I might give an edge. We'll dive

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Speaker 2: into it. I might give it a little edge to Cleveland

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Speaker 2: up a Cleveland like in seven. But I think that's

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Speaker 2: You know, I mean, I love it. I listen, I

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Speaker 2: love this Kings team. I loved watching him play all

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Speaker 2: year and they went at it to that, to that

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Speaker 2: to their credit, you know, they they they bawled out. Man,

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Speaker 2: they bawled that all year long, winning division. The whole thing. Now,

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Speaker 2: the problem is you get Golden State, and once you

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Speaker 2: think Golden State's vulnerable, I mean, you know when you

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Speaker 2: you got Wiggins back and so you're healthier. They're battle

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Speaker 2: test as we all know. That a tough, tough matchup

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Speaker 2: for Sacramento, and I kind of think Golden State wins that,

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Speaker 2: but we'll we'll go deeper into it. And sack Sacktown

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Speaker 2: deserves a lot of love for the season that they've had.

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Speaker 2: We talk all the time about how the NBA regular

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Speaker 2: season is being devalued. Well, you know what, Sacramento deserves

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Speaker 2: So I'm curious, I probably you know, I mean, they

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Speaker 2: were a team that I would root for in the

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Speaker 2: and they and they bowl out that team, you know,

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Speaker 2: Fox the Bonus. That's a nice team, man. And then

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Speaker 2: of course tomorrow was set Lakers go at it against

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Speaker 2: if Anthony Davis can stay healthy, can the Griz, you know,

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Speaker 2: like the Grizz, they could be vulnerable. Could be interesting. Uh,

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Speaker 2: Bucks will play the Heat. So the Heat win over

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Speaker 2: the NBA. It's already the bracket. The NBA bracket is out.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna be fabulous. It all starts today. Basketball changes

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs. Man, basketball becomes uh. Every dribble in

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if it's regular season or the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: It's the same game. It's not the same game in

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Speaker 2: of the NBA playoffs. Good morning figure.

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Speaker 1: More than that, getting so excited hearing you run down

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Speaker 2: This is what we all.

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Speaker 1: This is what everybody cares about, right, No one there's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a shame, you said, And that's why I

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Speaker 2: Absolutely right, because they played every game like those duds.

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Speaker 2: They played every game, they played tough, They just you know,

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Speaker 1: It's one thing that it's something to appreciate about a

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Speaker 1: never been there before. They don't know what they don't know,

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Speaker 1: so they go out there with a chip on their shoulder,

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Speaker 1: still think the Memphis Grizzlies kind of have that chip

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Speaker 1: And so I enjoy watching teams, you know, whip that

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Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, I agree, so that that's because and

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Speaker 2: that ship Justice should be for the regular seat. Like listen,

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Speaker 2: I do think Phoenix is probably the best team in

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Speaker 1: I will say, like, at least in Phoenix's defense, Kevin Durant,

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Speaker 2: But you just get my points.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, your overall point for sure. So many of

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Speaker 2: I doubt that they will, that's highly doubt.

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Speaker 1: It was gonna be difficult even with him in there,

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Speaker 1: though I do think they had a legitimate shot if

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Speaker 2: You, Yeah, dude, I feel the same way. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I just don't see how they're gonna win and win

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Speaker 1: No, No, I mean even Kawhi Leonard can play otherworldly,

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Speaker 1: but I mean he's playing against you know, one of

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Speaker 2: It really is top sledding. But to your point, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Well, it didn't look pretty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it just matters, man, It's just all matter.

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Speaker 1: And the players cares. Not to your point, the players

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's just heightened them and the game

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Speaker 2: changed way baseball is too. Oh yeah. Why when you

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Speaker 2: have a long regular season it you know, again, you

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Speaker 2: had dog days, Like, there's no dog days in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: No, because the one game can cost you your entire season,

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Speaker 2: it's it's a big deal when when the playoff time comes,

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Speaker 2: everybody's just like feels it. It's just everybody's on notice.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a different type of game.

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Speaker 1: It's a great game, it really is, and something that

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Speaker 1: we've discussed and I'm sure we'll get into more this season,

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Speaker 1: Western Conference, but they're still the four seed. As much

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Speaker 1: it's pretty wide open for the most part.

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Speaker 2: No, No, it's you know, he's he's ridiculous. He's completely ridiculous. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that they would be Minnesota for that, for that reason. Especially,

432
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 1: let's see at least assuming that Gobert was going to

433
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 1: be back in there, because on top of the suspension,

434
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:56,679
Speaker 1: I guess he had a lingering injury.

435
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 2: He was dealing with two.

436
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,440
Speaker 1: But knowing that those twin towers are going to be

437
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 1: both being there, I thought it was gonna be a

438
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 1: tough night for them.

439
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I'll tell you why. Here's

440
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 2: some trending and it will start the around the playoff process,

441
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 2: all right.

442
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of that game one, twenty to ninety five

443
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,120
Speaker 1: was the final score of Minnesota picking up that victory

444
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 1: over OKC. I talked about Rudy Gobert being back in

445
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,360
Speaker 1: that lineup. He served that suspension against the Lakers on Tuesday.

446
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 1: He had twenty one points and ten rebounds. Friday night,

447
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Towns led all scores with twenty eight. Minnesota

448
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 1: I had to Denver to face the Nuggets. Game one

449
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: of their first round series will be on Sunday night.

450
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 1: Miami Heat also picking up a victory, they clinched the

451
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 1: eighth seed. They get a one to two to ninety

452
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 1: one victory over Chicago in comeback fashion. Jimmy Butler thirty

453
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 1: one points, bam out of Bayos seventeen rebounds from Miami.

454
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: They will face Milwaukee in the first round that will

455
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: begin on Sunday as well. Major League Baseball Mets got

456
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 1: a grand slam in seven RBI from Francisco Lindor. They

457
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 1: demolished the Oakland eight seventeen to six. Oakland walks seventeen

458
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 1: Mets batters. That's incredible. What seventeen walk seventeen walks, that's

459
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: hard to do.

460
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 2: Oh my god. The Oakland teams pathetic.

461
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 1: Three and eleven for the Oakland. A's another tough year

462
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 1: in front of him. Cubs roughed up the Dodgers in

463
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: Los Angeles eight to three, seven.

464
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 2: Strong gets that kids steel could pay.

465
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: Steelers man seven strong, ginnings, eight strikeouts, just a couple

466
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 1: of runs. He is good, no doubt. Atlanta five home runs,

467
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 1: They blow out Kansas City, no surprise there, and the

468
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 1: magical start is over.

469
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 2: No.

470
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 1: One hundred and sixty two and oh for the Tampa

471
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: bay Rays home run for George Springer to lead things

472
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 1: off for Toronto. They get a sixty three victory over

473
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 1: the Tampa bay Rays. Tampa falls to thirteen and one

474
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,360
Speaker 1: on the early season.

475
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 2: Back to they you know they were going against Burrios

476
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 2: and he got rocked a couple of games, and I

477
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 2: kept thinking, is he going to get They're going to

478
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 2: kill him? And then of course it's the opposite.

479
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 1: Well, you know that's baseball for you though. They never

480
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: figure it out. Ye score sixteen runs one night and

481
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: get shut out the next.

482
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it was not that race. Teams legit, man.

483
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 1: They are And I know a lot of people are

484
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 1: kind of down playing and poo pulling them because their

485
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 1: schedule has not been the greatest. But can only play

486
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: who's in front of you. I mean, they're they're not

487
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: gonna hit you know, they're not gonna outscore everybody by

488
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: five six runs every single night. But I'm not gonna

489
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: see it or deny that they're not one of the

490
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 1: best teams in the American League. We assumed they were

491
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: going to be one of the best teams in the

492
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 1: AL and coming into the right and they and they

493
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: have a good lineup. They have a very solid lineup.

494
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: I don't think the lineup is as good as it's

495
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: presented itself the first two wins, but it's still it's

496
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,199
Speaker 1: still formidable. They're they are a good team. They're a

497
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 1: very good team. They're not thirteen at all.

498
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 2: As Arena Aina is good Arena. You got Josh low

499
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 2: d As. I mean, they come at you. It's a

500
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 2: solid lineup.

501
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: I think they're most I still think they're bullied mostly

502
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: by their pitching. And it's just it's a decent lineup,

503
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: not great, but good enough. They're they're, they're, they're. Look,

504
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't make it. Yeah, and I didn't

505
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 1: necessarily make any preseason picks or predictions quote unquote. But

506
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,719
Speaker 1: if you were to ask me who's going to win

507
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: the Al East, depending on the day, I could have

508
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: set the Yankees or the race.

509
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, it's not I actually think

510
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 2: they're better than the Yankees.

511
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: As a whole. Yes, as a collective, I agree, because

512
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: I think they're pitching staff a top to bottom including bullpen,

513
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 1: is better than York's.

514
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: I agree. Yeah, Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you completely.

515
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 2: All right, let's let's get it started playoff time, So

516
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 2: would all get started today at one o'clock Eastern, ten

517
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 2: o'clock Pacific. Sixers and the Brooklyn Nets. So this is

518
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 2: uh my sixer team, So you know, fig, you know,

519
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 2: whatever you mean to know. I'm pretty well versed with

520
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 2: these with these guys.

521
00:25:55,359 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely so. Are recalling a sweep gentlemen's sweep? Yeah,

522
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: how are you looking at this?

523
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 2: I mean, you give Brooklyn one game to get hot

524
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 2: from three? Yeah, I don't personally, but.

525
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 1: As someone who's seen the seventy six ers up close

526
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: every single night, I'll defer to you. But just from

527
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 1: a you know, thirty thousand foot look, I don't see

528
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: how how they put up a fight being the Brooklyn

529
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 1: against seventy six ers are really.

530
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 2: I don't think so either. I mean i'd be honest

531
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 2: with the Yeah, I think it's just it. This is

532
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 2: actually interesting because the one in two seeds I think

533
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 2: have tougher roads.

534
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 1: I agree.

535
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 2: You know, Milwaukee, Milwaukee Lisen Miami's not Miami, Kyle Lowry's

536
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 2: not Kyle Lowry. But they're still They're still tough. They are.

537
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: That was not that I I know. And them Milwaukee

538
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: Buck fans were rooting hard for Chicago to win that

539
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: game Friday night. They did not want to see Miami.

540
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: I don't think Miami is gonna beat them, but I

541
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 1: think they can push him for six.

542
00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 2: You're right, they they they will tax Milwaukee, and and

543
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: they match up against Mowall. They really do, they really do.

544
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: I thought that that was the one team that Milwaukee

545
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: in the early rounds at least did not want to see,

546
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: was Miami.

547
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 2: No, man, I know, I'm with you and uh and

548
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 2: and so I look at and then of course, you know,

549
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 2: I don't think I don't think Land is gonna you know,

550
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: push the Boston.

551
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: But no, they could probably get a game because I

552
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: can I can see you know, Murray and uh Young

553
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: getting hot for a game or something.

554
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 2: But but they're a better team than Brooklyn is I

555
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 2: mean Brooklyn they are. Yeah, I mean all you got

556
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 2: is mckel Bridges who is blossomed.

557
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: Oh Bridges has been amazing. Yeah, and Cam Johnson has

558
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: has his moments too. Uh But as a collective, they

559
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: obviously don't already don't have a star, well didn't when

560
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: he needs to get stop with the Twitter fingers and

561
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: worry about playing basketball. Yeah, but they just don't have

562
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: enough horses. They have a good if they had a

563
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 1: superstar with them, like Kevin Durant, they probably would give

564
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,719
Speaker 1: a couple of teams some trouble because of the quality

565
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 1: of talent of players that they have. They have a

566
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: lot of good players, they just don't have a quality

567
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 1: like great alpha player to help them, you know, win

568
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 1: a series. So that that's what's holding them back.

569
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, and listen, I can I see

570
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 2: them getting swept out out of without of doubt, right,

571
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: without of doubt. They can easily get sweet now that

572
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: now the Sixers come out. This is the Sixers, sixth

573
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 2: iteration they've been to the of the playoff team. This

574
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 2: is six different teams since the process. All right, now,

575
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 2: you know the process which goes down in infamy where

576
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 2: you know they and I was for it and I'm

577
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 2: stuff for it.

578
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: But yep, I understand it. And I do not hate

579
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: on the uh on the strategy at all.

580
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 2: And you know people have and whatever and we get it.

581
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 2: But you know, there was four long years of the process,

582
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 2: four long years. It seemed longer. You know, it did well,

583
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: it was, it kind of was in And then I'll

584
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: give you a chapter and verse. The first year of

585
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: the playoffs was a team that was led by Ben Simmons. Wow,

586
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: it was a team that was led by Ben Simmons.

587
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 2: It was Ben Simmons. Joel was hurt. Joel actually missed

588
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 2: the first couple of games of the Miami series, and

589
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 2: then he showed up with the mask. He had broken

590
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: the orbital burn bone for the first time and it

591
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,239
Speaker 2: took an elbow and and uh, and that's and then

592
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: they going into that playoffs. It was Ben Simmons leading

593
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: a team with Joel and they had JJ Reddick and

594
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 2: actually they had Marco Bell and Ellie if you remember,

595
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 2: and Iliasova.

596
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: And Covington was still there at that time.

597
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: Probably it was a processor and uh. And then they

598
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 2: they actually they beat Miami and they played Boston really tough.

599
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: They loseing five, but every game was closed. One game

600
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 2: was an overtime. And and then the following years when

601
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: they go and they get they're pretty they're probably their

602
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: best team. They have Reddick, they get Jimmy Butler, they

603
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: get to Bias and like they're ready to go there.

604
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a team that is strong. They that

605
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 2: was funny because Joel wasn't the EMBEDI is now. He

606
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: was a little immature. They had beaten Brooklyn in the

607
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 2: first round and then they lose to the Kawhi Raptors

608
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: in that epic series. And really they were up two

609
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 2: to one in this series, and they could have they

610
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: could have put that thing away with a home game

611
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 2: on a Sunday, and Joel had stomach issues and did

612
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: and played poorly that on the next day and kind

613
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 2: of wasn't was kind of MOPI and Awe and law

614
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: and they and they went up losing the series. And

615
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 2: that game, that series was marked the game seven in Toronto. Yep.

616
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 2: That Joe Jimmy Butler stayed at a different hotel than

617
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: the rest of the team and he did not go

618
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: to the pregame shoot around. He said he's going to church,

619
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 2: all right. Yeah. He hated Brett Brown. Oh my god.

620
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 2: They hated him. There was saw that was the worst.

621
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: They hate each other. And of course that set the

622
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 2: stage of a whole mess of stuff that transpired after that.

623
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: They wound up moving on from Butler because Butler gave

624
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: the ultimatum either me or Brett Brown. And then that

625
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: then comes the Bubble playoffs. Ben Simmons and this is

626
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 2: a precursor is out with a back injury. Uh. And

627
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 2: then the Sixers get swept out by Boston. Then is

628
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: the end of Ben. They start off good enough, they

629
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: go to Washington. They beat Washington in the first round

630
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: and Simmons looks good and then the Hawks and this

631
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: was the most you know, this was it. This was

632
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 2: the end of the Simmons of his career really in

633
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 2: many ways. So they're down three to two, and it's

634
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 2: crazy that they were down three to two in that series.

635
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 2: They go to Atlanta and buried them, right, they buried

636
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 2: the Hawks game seven, Father's Day. Everybody's saying, hey man,

637
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: it's over right, and they lose, and of course Simmons,

638
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 2: left alone under the basket, does not dunk the basketball.

639
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 2: In fact, he passes Trey you know, Muddy Tray Young

640
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: coming to the six, eleven and a half Simmons and

641
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: he passes the ball, and that was the end. That

642
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 2: was the end of his career. He was he was

643
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: just never the same. Of course, he sits out right

644
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 2: after that day. That week, he's got the stones to

645
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 2: demand the trade figure. He demands a trade after he

646
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: quits on his team. Ramona Shelburn of ESPN later reported

647
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: that he was trying to fake a COVID exposure to

648
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 2: miss the game. Crazy stuff. They of course, he sits

649
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: out and they're trying to trade and they can't trade him.

650
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: He's a mess. He never show up, shows up to

651
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: try to get paid, and then uh, and it's an

652
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: ugly situation. They finally flip him for James Harden and

653
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 2: talk about, you know, well god Send, they get Harden.

654
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: Now when Hardy comes over, he's got a bad handy,

655
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: he's one leg. And then they lose to Miami with

656
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: Joel breaking its orbital bone again. So that's that's the

657
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: last five years of the sixties. You want to talk

658
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: about high drama, fake high drama, you know.

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Speaker 1: Listening to that, what all tells me is, like you

660
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 1: look at the last few you know, NBA champions save

661
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: for like I guess Toronto, the Lakers in the bubble,

662
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: generally speaking, the teams that of one are the ones

663
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Speaker 1: who have had consistency, like really consistency just with throughout

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Speaker 1: their roster, some sort of continuity. And you look at that, Yeah,

665
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: you've had Joel Embiid as a constant for the most part.

666
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Speaker 1: But look at all the moving pieces you talked about,

667
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Speaker 1: you know, whether it was Jimmy Butler point, you know,

668
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: swinging to trade for Tobias Harris and you know the

669
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Speaker 1: Ben Simmons situation. So many moving parts and look, they're

670
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Speaker 1: a good team. I mean, how many times do they

671
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Speaker 1: make it into the second round. You mentioned the loss

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Speaker 1: to Toronto with the Plinko chip shop.

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Speaker 2: Five years they were in the second round. Yep.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and just if you just had a little bit

675
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Speaker 1: of continuity, you know, who knows what the difference would

676
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: have been in that situation. By the way, also, it's

677
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: very it's an anomaly these that an organization will choose

678
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Speaker 1: a coach and look, no, no disrespect to Brett Brown,

679
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: but not like he's Greg krop Popovitch or anything. It's

680
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 1: rare that an organization will pick a coach over a player.

681
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Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden you fast forward a

682
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Speaker 1: year and a half after that, Brett Brown's gone too, So.

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Speaker 2: He was going the next year. Yeah, amazing.

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Speaker 1: So it's like, I mean, you would have been better off,

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Speaker 1: you know, letting Brett Brown go. Yea, even if you

686
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Speaker 1: hadn't hired Doc and hired somebody else, and you still

687
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Speaker 1: you'd have Jimmy to go along with Joel Embiid. Even

688
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Speaker 1: if you had Ben Simmons and he was a mess,

689
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Speaker 1: a lot of that would have been skirted because you

690
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Speaker 1: still had Jimmy Butler in the fold.

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Speaker 2: Totally totally right. All right, Uh to say quick too,

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Speaker 2: We'll come back. We'll continue our foray around the NBA

693
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Speaker 2: playoffs where the Fellas right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back Fellas on a Fox Sports Saturday

695
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Speaker 2: Fig Redskin and oh god, the Commanders have a buyer, yes,

696
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: and speaking of the process, Yeah, it's Josh Harris. I

697
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 2: know Josh really really well. And I actually think the

698
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Speaker 2: Commanders have been liberated that they'll get an owner. And

699
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Speaker 2: who is Actually he's from Chevy Chase, Maryland. He's a

700
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 2: guy that his grandparents were from Philly and that's why

701
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 2: he loved the Sixers. And you know, I've seen him,

702
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 2: I've known him, and I've watched him over the years,

703
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: and like he'll do anything to win, like he'll you know,

704
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Speaker 2: he's a guy that we talked about the Jimmy Butler situation.

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Speaker 2: He tried to do what's right with Jimmy Butler and

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Speaker 2: Brett Brown. Like he tried to do right by Brett.

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Speaker 2: And because he's a pretty loyal guy. He's a very

708
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Speaker 2: loyal guy. You know. The Butler situation kind of reared itself. Yeah,

709
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Speaker 2: and but his heart was in the right place, like

710
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: he was a guy that you know they have to

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00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 2: the largest or the highest paid coaching staff in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, did not know that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so he is. You know, they have a legion

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Speaker 2: of assistance with Doc. He spares no expense. He's been

715
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Speaker 2: in luxury tax He's been a guy that you know,

716
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Speaker 2: really tries to win. So I thought, I think they

717
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: got they got a Goodie's a really good owner. He

718
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Speaker 2: like trusts his people, So I think Washington, I think

719
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Speaker 2: it's going to help him. Oh, you're to get it,

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Speaker 2: because I do believe it starts from the top.

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Speaker 1: And you know he's then he's done so well in

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Speaker 1: his business endeavors and as you mentioned, well respected. He's

723
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Speaker 1: brought Magic Johnson on as I don't know how big

724
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: of an investor financially Magic is, but you know he

725
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: has his hands and his face attached to a lot

726
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Speaker 1: of different things and usually those endeavors tend to thrive.

727
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,760
Speaker 1: So I think that adds a little bit of sports

728
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Speaker 1: even more credibility to it. As if Josh even needed it.

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00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: They just need to get the stink of Daniel Snyder

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00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: out of it. The NFL needed to get Daniel Snyder.

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00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: He's just been a giant distract, to be honest with you,

732
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Speaker 1: especially over the last what would you say, five years,

733
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 1: going back to the whole cheerleader thing with the island

734
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: and the pictures and all that stuff, and it's just

735
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: more and more stories and more and more negative noise

736
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: around the organization on top of the fact that they

737
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: just don't win, don't play an exciting brand of football.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And it's a it's a great market obviously, and one

740
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: of the great historic franchises in the sport. And it's

741
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Speaker 1: just sad how dramatic of a fall they've had they've

742
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Speaker 1: had over Dan Snyder's tenure. So I'm sure a Commander

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Speaker 1: fans are happy, and the NFL as a whole should

744
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: be happy, because you know when people talk about the

745
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: NFL is better when the Raiders are good or the

746
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: Cowboys are good. I kind of feel that same way

747
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: about Washington.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear you, and being in a division with

749
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 2: them and the whole thing. I listen, I think you're right.

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00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 2: I think you know, it's good to have a healthy

751
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: franchise in DC, especially when you have these old franchises that, like,

752
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Speaker 2: I agree with you, they have a little standing m hm.

753
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 2: Remember the Gibbs era and then the three Super Bowls

754
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 2: and all that stuff in the Hogs and I mean

755
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: they've been irrelevant for twenty years.

756
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Speaker 1: A long period of time. I mean they haven't won

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00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: a playoff game in twenty plus years, right. I know,

758
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: they've made a couple of playoff.

759
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: Bursts, right, we remember the RG three thing. Yeah, right,

760
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 2: but they haven't. They have been completely irrelevant.

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Speaker 1: And your yeah, to your point, it starts from the top.

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Speaker 1: How many coaching changes have they had? You know, have

763
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Speaker 1: they when's the last time they've had a franchise, a

764
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Speaker 1: true franchise quarterback. They've just they've just been run through

765
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Speaker 1: the wringer. And because Dan Snyder really just didn't know

766
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: what he was doing and wouldn't listen to reason. Wanted

767
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Speaker 1: to be the head of the snake, wanted to be

768
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Speaker 1: thought he was a genius, you know, wanted to rule

769
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Speaker 1: with the iron fist, and ultimately it ended up costing

770
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Speaker 1: him so good writtance. You know, you spend eight hundred

771
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Speaker 1: million dollars to buy the franchise. You're walking away with

772
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Speaker 1: six bills. So take your check, go buy an island

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Speaker 1: somewhere and go away.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, walking away with six pies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll be fine, just like Donald's Stirling with the Clippers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he'll be fine. Damn Fellas on Fox.

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Speaker 2: NBA playoffs, finally here, all the bluster that we talk about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I look like and I was sarcastick and

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00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: talking about now it's finally here, and hopefully everybody can

804
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: win the NBA title while knowing that only one can.

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00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: But you know, that's what that's what a season is

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00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: made for. Every single team has a story or a journey,

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00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: you know, every single you know, we talked about how

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00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: there could be five six legit contenders. Every last one

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00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: of them has a different story in a different journey

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00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: of how they potentially could have gotten there. You know,

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00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: look at a team like Milwaukee, who's had the best record,

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00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 1: you know, or you know, overtook Boston, I think around

813
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: the first of the year and never looked back. Boston

814
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: has had its share of up and downs this year.

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Speaker 1: The Lakers people think that they can win. I mean,

816
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: who started more down than they did with the rest

817
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: book situation. Look at the Phoenix Suns where got off

818
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: to a really slow start, had some injuries, make the

819
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: trade for Kevin Durant. It's all about the journey. This

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00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: goes back to what Damian Liller said in an interview

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Speaker 1: about a month or so ago. That's not to get

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Speaker 1: so caught up about who wins at the very end,

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00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 1: because there's a journey for everybody to get there, even

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00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: if you become the runner up, and that's the part

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Speaker 1: that gets lost. And so that's that's why I'm not

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Speaker 1: the biggest Look if you want to be, if you're

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Speaker 1: a casual fan and you just show up for the postseason,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna begrudge you. That's totally fine. You don't

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00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 1: have to be a die hard, but I will say

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Speaker 1: I diehard someone like us like me who follow this

831
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: the entire season. I do enjoy seeing the entire journey

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Speaker 1: being culminated with the championship, regardless of who it is,

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00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: because that's part of what following the sport is all about.

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Speaker 1: It is about the total journey. It's not just about

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Speaker 1: turning on the TV in June and finding out who

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Speaker 1: won the championship.

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Speaker 2: It is I listen, I'm with you. We just got

838
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 2: dumb telling me about you know what the six years

839
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: I gave you chapter and verse over the last five

840
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 2: playoff runs since the process, and how that team is

841
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 2: just changed and changed changed, and you know, it's all

842
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: about a journey. You know what's funny? Fig I could

843
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 2: see it change it again too.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, yeah, so things don't work out this year,

845
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,959
Speaker 1: but uh yeah, if they don't win it this year,

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00:43:58,480 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: docs out right.

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Speaker 2: Probably, But I could see Harden. I could see James

848
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 2: going back to Houston.

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Speaker 1: Now, I did hear that bandied about. I could around

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Speaker 1: among the rumor mills about a month ago.

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Speaker 2: I can I say it? And I don't, you know,

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00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 2: I could see it, and I could see it if

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00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: they're in a rebuild.

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Speaker 1: But would he go to a rebuild, he'd also have

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Speaker 1: to be.

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Speaker 2: That's That'll know that that would be his primary goal.

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Speaker 1: So he wants to go back to the strip clubs

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Speaker 1: in Houston.

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Speaker 2: I don't even I don't think it's that. I think

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Speaker 2: it's Houston's kind of his home. His mom lives there.

861
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: I was only half joking about that.

862
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I so I kind of think that's kind

863
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 2: of you know, I kind of that would be his thing,

864
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 2: and it's possible, and if that happens, then I heard

865
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 2: that they would go hard. Now I don't know if

866
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 2: they could this would happen, because we've been talking about

867
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 2: this forever. But then I heard that they could. They

868
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:06,479
Speaker 2: would go hard after Dame. Interesting now they David said,

869
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: you know, he's not going and we're going to not

870
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 2: go anywhere. But at some point, like they're not that

871
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: they can't win.

872
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know, and Dame just talked at the

873
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: exit interview this week when they said, hey, they might

874
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: use this high draft pick to try to do a rebuild,

875
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: and Dame's like, that's not what I want to do.

876
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: That's not what I'm here for. Now it could be

877
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: taken out of his hands. This happened with Kevin Garnett

878
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: and Minnesota, Like he never asked to be traded and

879
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: he was totally loyal to the franchise, and Kevin McHale,

880
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: who was the president at the time, said I owe

881
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: it to you to put you in a situation where

882
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: you can win, and he sent them to Boston. Now

883
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: KG signed off on it, but that wasn't his call.

884
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: So I do wonder if Portland says, Look, we appreciate

885
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: the fact that you were a loyal that you wanted

886
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: to stay here, but look, the franchise, with all due respect,

887
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: isn't going anywhere with you in our current state. We

888
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: got to tear this thing down and rebuild, so as

889
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: a as a favor to you and to us, we'll

890
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: send you somewhere where you have a better chance of

891
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: being able to win. So I can see that scenario happening.

892
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: The issue is what is Philadelphia? If James Harden opts

893
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: out and leaves as a free agent to Houston, what

894
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: would the seventy six ers have to offer the Portland Trailblazers.

895
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 1: I guess will be my question. I guess you'd have

896
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: to bias on an expiring contract. Maybe yeah, that'd be

897
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: about the biggest asset I'm guessing.

898
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I'm be honest

899
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: with you, I'm not sure how that would work out.

900
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 2: But you know the league, things sort of work out

901
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: in the league.

902
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: Typically they usually just work out for the Lakers. They

903
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: usually end up getting whoever they want eventually. That's how

904
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 1: it ends up working.

905
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 2: One of the interesting plot lines. And I know we're

906
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,439
Speaker 2: kind of stuck on this first round, but we're gonna

907
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 2: move on to the next series. But one of the

908
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 2: more plot because we're talking about these interesting things is Brooklyn.

909
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: And let me let's talk about Brooklyn for a second,

910
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 2: because I can only imagine if you are a fan

911
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: of the Brooklyn Nets and that you were sitting here

912
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 2: just it felt like yesterday when you got Kevin Durant

913
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 2: and it was Durant hardening Kyrie right teamed up, and

914
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: it's amazing how that was an unmitigated disaster.

915
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, how many games did they play together? Like thirty

916
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,479
Speaker 1: or something, if even that many? Yeah, they were actually together,

917
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: you know, I mean there were you know, we even

918
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: said when the trade happened, is like, I mean, they

919
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: don't play any defense, but I mean, how many teams

920
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: are gonna be able to score one hundred and sixty

921
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: like they will?

922
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: Right, you know?

923
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 1: And you know what, that's pretty much what happened when

924
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: they did play together. It's just unfortunately, to your point,

925
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: didn't work out. And you look at him now and

926
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: the worst part is, you know, you had the Kyrie

927
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: trade that happened, and they ended up making that deal

928
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: and bringing in the players. They brought in believing that

929
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant was gonna stay there. The problem is they

930
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: made that trade, then all of a sudden, they end

931
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: up making the KD trade, and now all of a

932
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: sudden they were in no man's land, because I'm pretty

933
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,240
Speaker 1: sure they would have sent they would have sent Kyrie

934
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: Irving somewhere else where they could have gotten more draft picks,

935
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: younger players. More so, Llary cap relief, then sending him

936
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: to Dallas where they got a couple of solid players

937
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 1: on decent sized contracts, thinking they were going to be

938
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 1: able to compete. So more than anything, that's what really

939
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: screwed him up this year. Now they just find themselves

940
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: with you know, Michael Bridges has twenty plus million dollars

941
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: on his contract in next couple of years. Didn't when

942
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: he's making twenty plus a year. Phinney Smith's making fifteen

943
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: a year, So they're just kind of stuck at this point.

944
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 2: I know, it's wild man, And then you know, what

945
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 2: do you do with Simmons?

946
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: What can you do Guys making forty million a year

947
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: for the next couple of years. You can't trade them.

948
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 2: Who wants them? Is he? And I was talking about

949
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 2: this the other day, the greatest thief in the history

950
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: of mankind.

951
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: The history of mankind. Wow, I mean, who was.

952
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 2: Your bigger thief? I mean you're talking forty million, you

953
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 2: know with this contract. He's absurd and he does it

954
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 2: without a a note.

955
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it's all like without remorse.

956
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 2: You know, he just I say it without a note.

957
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 2: I mean about I'm robbing your bank. You know, it's

958
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 2: like like he's greater than Dylanser. I mean, you know,

959
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 2: he's unbelievable. Yeah, I'm hard pressed by Floyd. I mean,

960
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 2: you know, pretty boy, Floyd's got nothing on a big

961
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 2: Ben Simmons.

962
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm hard pressed to find him a worse contract

963
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: than that. Yeah, that's hard for a guy that's gonna

964
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: make forty plus or thirty five forty plus million dollars

965
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: for the next couple of years and Roll most likely

966
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: give you not like next to nothing, like quite literally nothing,

967
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: like he was giving him what six points and four

968
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: rebounds a game or something this year when he did play.

969
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 2: And you know what's amazing, I gotta tell you that, like,

970
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like it. Forgive me if I'm obsessing,

971
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 2: but I've never seen anything like this story. I watched

972
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 2: him play. He was great. It wasn't like he wasn't

973
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 2: a good ball player.

974
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, he couldn't shoot and didn't shoot, but that doesn't

975
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: mean he was any less effective of a player. He

976
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: can handle the ball, he's in the post like he was.

977
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 2: He was like he was an all star, legitimate all

978
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 2: star caliber player because and early in his career like that,

979
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 2: the first time they're going to the playoffs. I mean,

980
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 2: he's averaging seventeen eighteen a game. It wasn't like he

981
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 2: was in six points a game. He was averaging seventeen

982
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 2: eighteen a game. And you know, I mean he's he's

983
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 2: attacking the rim and dunking the ball and that on

984
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 2: breaks and it just was normal, like there was nothing

985
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 2: abnormal about him. And then he just goes off the

986
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 2: deep end.

987
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if he had some version of the yips.

988
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: I feel like there's definitely I mean, obviously like the

989
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: physical ailments certainly don't help, but I have to believe that,

990
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,479
Speaker 1: you know, seventy percent of his issues are between the years.

991
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: It has to be to fall off a cliff. The

992
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: way that he has that precipitously is is unreal to me.

993
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 2: I mean have you seen it? Like, so, we've had flops,

994
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: right or draft busts, but we haven't had that. No,

995
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 2: we haven't had a guy who actually was a legitimate,

996
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 2: legitimate All Star to just be in a puddle.

997
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, to fall off a cliff that large sands a yeah,

998
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: sands a major.

999
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 2: Look.

1000
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: Again, he's had some injuries, but it's not he tore

1001
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: an achilles or something, you know what I mean, or

1002
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: had like a spinal you know, surgery or something like that.

1003
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,439
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm gonna send him the Rodden and Roden

1004
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 2: law Yeah, I mean my buddy's is a PI attorney.

1005
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, oh, you think he's milking a little

1006
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: bit the injuries.

1007
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 2: Good one thoracic that thoracic syndrome he had before. But

1008
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 2: my buddy, my buddy Boo, who is a lawyer who

1009
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 2: Roden and Roden says to me, yeah, we use that

1010
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 2: because it's undetectable by doctors. Like you can't dispute.

1011
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: It, right right, Well, you know what also, and I

1012
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: mean I hate to say it, but it's true. Another

1013
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: thing you can't dispute the mental health issues, which is

1014
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: another I don't want to say ploy because he could

1015
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: be dealing. I don't know, because and then I'm the

1016
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: one that sounds like a jerk saying that he's using

1017
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: it as an excuse.

1018
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 2: For Maybe maybe it's not. But with the whole free

1019
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 2: world's going through mental health issues, you know, life's hard.

1020
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 2: Life presents mental health issues. And then and a lot

1021
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 2: of they're doing it for and then people should have

1022
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 2: to get up and go to work. Oh, look, feed

1023
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: their families. I mean, they're not just play video games.

1024
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: And by the way, who has more resources of being

1025
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,439
Speaker 1: applied to them than pro athletes the seventy six ers

1026
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: excuse me, when out of their way talking about mental

1027
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: health professionals and doing all this stuff, and he refused it. Yeah,

1028
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: he didn't even want their help. So what does that

1029
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: tell you?

1030
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I mean, that's why I'm as

1031
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: I'm a compassionate person. But when it comes to when

1032
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 2: it comes to that nonsense, I just I can't be

1033
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:56,959
Speaker 2: an idiot, right, Like, there's a difference between being compassionate

1034
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 2: and being just being a fool, right And he jest.

1035
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 2: He's a thief, is what he is. He shameful. Yeah,

1036
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. And people brought this up to me,

1037
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 2: and they were right and I was wrong because I've

1038
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 2: defended him. They were like, the kid don't want to

1039
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 2: play ball, he don't like basketball. I'm like, interesting, could

1040
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 2: you not like basketball? You're right, like, well, it was unfathomable. Yeah,

1041
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 2: what do you mean does like basketball? What?

1042
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:24,439
Speaker 5: Oh?

1043
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: Well, I mean like, you've covered this sport long enough,

1044
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: you know, longer than I have, and I've been around

1045
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: for almost a couple of decades now. I mean, there

1046
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: are certain guys who we know they're just good at it.

1047
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: They don't love the sport, they just do it because

1048
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: they're naturally talented.

1049
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 2: Well, and I'm thinking you may not be in love

1050
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 2: with it, but you shouldn't hate it, right, right? And

1051
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 2: he hates it? Now?

1052
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 1: Does he hate playing the game? Or does he hate

1053
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: things other things that surround the game that he's not

1054
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: able to deal with? The scrutiny, the you know, the

1055
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: Twitter stuff.

1056
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, if you want to play due, I

1057
00:53:56,160 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 2: think he's happiest playing his video games. Honestly, Yeah, that's

1058
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 2: what it was. Having covered him closely, That's kind of

1059
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 2: what it seemed like.

1060
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: Really, So and your interactions with him, did you did

1061
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: you get that feel even early on in his career

1062
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: when he was balling out as an All Star that

1063
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: really wasn't His number one passion was the game, yeah,

1064
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 1: you know.

1065
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 2: And he he but he was different, like he was

1066
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 2: a different cat. He was very you know, listen, I've

1067
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 2: gotten you know, close to many athletes, having done you know,

1068
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 2: as a writer, broadcast the whole thing. And he was

1069
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 2: a guy that was almost like a cat is the

1070
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 2: best way to describe him. You know, cats are like

1071
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 2: just aloof and weird and and and he was just

1072
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 2: that dude, Like he just was not friendly. He was

1073
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 2: not you know, even in top moments were just kind

1074
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 2: of you know, being a dude just you know, talking,

1075
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 2: And he was not that guy. He different.

1076
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: How did uh? How did his teammates? How did his

1077
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: teammates react to him? Like from like a behind the scenes,

1078
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: off the.

1079
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 2: Record like Joel, Like I love Joel, right, so I

1080
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 2: I I'm very friendly with Joel. Those two never they

1081
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,720
Speaker 2: never they never hung out. And Beabe is a great

1082
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 2: like and Bebe is a funny.

1083
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 1: Seem like it yeah, great dude, Like you get to

1084
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 1: know him and he and he's real, he's real, real smart,

1085
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: real fun and he's you know, no charismatical man and

1086
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: I and I never understood, like they used to tell

1087
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: me that early on, these two like they're separate, man,

1088
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: they're different, and they just never were and they were

1089
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: not and they were built, they were billed as you know,

1090
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: the co they were co branded, the stars of the

1091
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: team absolutely, and they never they just never did it.

1092
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, never did it. I just found the Simmons thing

1093
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 2: so interesting because if I'm a fan of Brooklyn, I

1094
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 2: went from Harden, Durant and Kyrie.

1095
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 1: To wh Yeah, I mean, getting probably swept in the

1096
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: first round of the playoffs this year and saying something

1097
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: crazy happened to this allseason, probably be fighting for like

1098
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: a seven, eight, nine seed next year because you're not

1099
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: terrible enough to be fighting for a top pick, but

1100
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: you're also not good enough to compete for a champions

1101
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: You're in the exact spot that no NBA team wants

1102
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: to be in. That's exactly where the Nets are right now.

1103
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 2: Unbelievable. Yeah, all right, we'll say quick T will come back,

1104
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 2: and we're going to take a look at the top

1105
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 2: at the second game today, which is the Hawks and

1106
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 2: the Seas. So the new coach, first year coach, thrust

1107
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 2: In the middle of title hopes, we'll talk about Boston

1108
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 2: coming up and we get We're dive secting every series

1109
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 2: at every game over the weekend, fellas right here on

1110
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 2: Fox Wards Radio, coming live from the tire rack dot

1111
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 2: com studios. So where are we in Boston? Boston and

1112
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 2: the Celtics after going to the finals last year, they

1113
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 2: had some dysfunction and it appeared last year if you

1114
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 2: remember what was going on with the C's figure. But

1115
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 2: there was all these reports rumors Brown Tatum did they

1116
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 2: have to split them up, and then the two go

1117
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 2: on a roll and an epic role and they get

1118
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 2: all the way to the finals and suddenly there was

1119
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 2: no problem between Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum. And then

1120
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 2: they had to deal with Udoka and the coaching gate

1121
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 2: and the whole kind of a weird fair thing. It

1122
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 2: cost him his job, and Joe Mizzoula, who is the

1123
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 2: assistant coach, is trusted with team try to get back

1124
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:12,919
Speaker 2: to the finals and this time to win it. Fake

1125
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 2: wild stuff in Boston.

1126
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: It is, but they've held it together, you know, and

1127
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: and just as good a shot as anybody to come

1128
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: out of the Eastern Conference. It's pretty wild and now,

1129
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: the talk with Jalen Brown is well, can we afford

1130
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: It's not that does he not fit with Jason Tatum?

1131
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: You know, can we afford to keep him? Does he

1132
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: want to stay? I know he made some comments in

1133
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: a podcast about certain you know, issues with the fan

1134
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: base in Boston at times. I know he's a very

1135
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: smart and well thought out and outspoken guy who will

1136
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: say some controversial things to in the minds of some

1137
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: that don't necessarily endear themselves to a lot of people.

1138
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: So we'll have to see how they ends up playing

1139
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: out long term, but for right now, yeah, I was.

1140
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: I was skeptical of the fit between the two of them,

1141
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, before last season as well,

1142
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: and to your point, they found a way to make

1143
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: it work. And look, they are fun to watch, especially

1144
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: when those two guys have it going and Marcus Smart,

1145
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: you know, gets it going defensively for them. Robert Williams

1146
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: is obviously a big factor for them in the paint

1147
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 1: and they're a different team when he's in there. They

1148
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: have a good shot of any of getting back to

1149
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: the NBA Finals this year.

1150
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 2: I like him a lot. I was talking to Legs

1151
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 2: and I was kind of surprised. He said that Boston

1152
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 2: he didn't like the way they were looking recently based

1153
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 2: on just I just you know, the way he had Legs.

1154
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 2: I talked to Legs every Friday, Tim Legler, who's the

1155
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 2: NBA analyst for ABC ESPN, and we were just talking

1156
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 2: and he just said they just and it was more

1157
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 2: of a black and statement that recently they just haven't

1158
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 2: looked right to him. And I don't know, I just

1159
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 2: you know, again, I don't know. And you know, I

1160
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 2: look at him and go, when they're healthy, they're pretty formidable.

1161
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I feel like, I know they had

1162
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: a little bit of a lull earlier in the season,

1163
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: but I mean the last month or so, they've been

1164
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: as good as anybody, especially out East. So, uh, look,

1165
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: Legs is the analyst and he certainly has forgotten more

1166
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: about basketball than I'll ever know. But from my my

1167
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: uneducated eye, they look fine to me and look just

1168
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: as vulnerable now as they did last season.

1169
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be interesting. Now, what do you

1170
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 2: make of Missoula? Could you imagine being thrust in that

1171
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 2: spine where suddenly you go, oh, I'm the head guy. Now.

1172
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well it's a tough spot to be in. Uh year, Yeah,

1173
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 1: he thrived. It certainly hasn't hurt him. I think he

1174
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: has the right demeanor. I mean, I don't want to

1175
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: say that he has the personality of a rice cake,

1176
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: but I mean he's not the most not the most excitable,

1177
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: which is fine. You know, that's probably a good demeanor

1178
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: to have in high stake situations in the postseason especially,

1179
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: you probably don't want to have a guy who's on

1180
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: the sideline screaming and ranting and raven all the time.

1181
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: I want to have someone who's more even keeled.

1182
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 2: And in this league, you know, like this league is

1183
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 2: one where players don't respond to that.

1184
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: Not these days. No if they ever did, but they

1185
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: especially nowadays, do not.

1186
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 2: Nah. Yeah, I'm with you. I don't. I don't. I don't.

1187
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 2: I don't think that's I think he's got the right

1188
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 2: kind of demeanor. But what impresses me about Boston is

1189
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 2: I look at them and I go, they have they

1190
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 2: have such great guard play, right like they when you

1191
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 2: have you're almost under because Tatum is great and Brown's great.

1192
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:43,439
Speaker 2: But then having Derek White, smart and robed for me,

1193
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 2: you know, and I'm with you, rocked in and I'm

1194
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 2: a Derek White fan, man. I love that kid. That

1195
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 2: kid is he He could play the point, he could score,

1196
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 2: he could shoot. He's a good ball player. He's underrated

1197
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 2: and he was in San Antonio, and I think he's

1198
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 2: been underrated for a while.

1199
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Speaker 1: He has been. He's a very good integral player to

1200
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 1: what they do. And I thought in the offseason I

1201
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: thought one of the more underrated moves was Boston getting

1202
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 1: Malcolm Brogden away from Indiana. And he's one of the

1203
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: front runners, at least one of the finalists for six

1204
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: Man of the Year, and rightfully so, because he's so

1205
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: good and so versatile. It can score the ball great

1206
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 1: with the assist. One of the better defensive players, I

1207
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 1: mean him in the backcourt with Marcus Smart. In the

1208
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 1: playoff situation, you have two guys you can throw on

1209
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: perimeter players to go along with Jason Tatum and Jalen

1210
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: Brown who can also defend you know, one through potentially

1211
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: four depending on who the four is. They have a

1212
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: lot of defensive versatility, which is why I like him

1213
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: so much. I mean, like, I would not be surprised

1214
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: whatsoever if they found the way to make it back

1215
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: to the NBA Finals this year. Because of how their

1216
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: roster is constructed. I think they're constructed in a way

1217
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 1: that they can really compete with anybody. They can go big,

1218
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: they can go small. You know, they are extremely versatile indep.

1219
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, with you man, I am you know. And

1220
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 2: again when you look at him, they're, uh, they're they're

1221
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 2: a team with Tatum and having a legitimate star. You know,

1222
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 2: he's he's the closer they match up, and again it

1223
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 2: all comes down to Milwaukee, Philadelphia and really it's those

1224
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 2: three teams in the East. And I don't know about you,

1225
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 2: Like I look at it the land and I go,

1226
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 2: you know, I like their background. I get what they

1227
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 2: were trying to do, but that's just that's not enough

1228
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 2: to win. No.

1229
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 1: Like, I mean, Murray's a good player, he's not a

1230
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: great player. I don't think he's a legit number two.

1231
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: If you're saying that Trey is the one, and look

1232
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: to be honest, as great as Tray is and I

1233
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 1: love Trey Young, He's fun to watch. He's probably a

1234
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 1: two on if you're talking about a championship and light yeah,

1235
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 1: I could see that. Yeah, I will say that they're

1236
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 1: they're they're somewhat similar.

1237
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 2: Uh.

1238
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 1: I think Trey's obviously he's he's more of a natural point.

1239
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 5: Uh.

1240
01:03:57,640 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: Yes, Murray's more of just a natural score. Tray can

1241
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: do a little bit more of both. And look that,

1242
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 1: like I said, they're fun to watch. They can go off,

1243
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 1: they can have one of those games where both of

1244
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: them score thirty. But as far as in an actual

1245
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: playoff series against the quality team where you're asking them

1246
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,919
Speaker 1: to win four times out of seven, I just can't

1247
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 1: see that happening. I can see the steel one and

1248
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 1: it's redundant.

1249
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 2: Like it just feels redundant.

1250
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 1: To me, right, It feels like Cig McCollum and Damian

1251
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 1: Lillard all over again. Yes, it is kind of the

1252
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 1: vibe that I get.

1253
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can't win Listen. I know it's a

1254
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 2: guards league, but you can't win with just guards.

1255
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 1: No, especially guards who are both one dimensional like that. Yeah,

1256
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 1: neither of those guys who are defending anybody. It's not like.

1257
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: Look if de john Ta Murray was you know, dropping

1258
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 1: twenty to a night and was also you know, a

1259
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 1: candidate for Defensive Player of the Year, maybe things are different.

1260
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 1: You know, if John Collins had actually continued to progress

1261
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 1: and not regress, which is what it seemed like he

1262
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,959
Speaker 1: did this year, at least to me. You know, maybe

1263
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:52,919
Speaker 1: they'd have more of a legit shot. I just don't

1264
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 1: think they have enough of the cores around them. Clint

1265
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 1: Copela is good for what he is, but I think

1266
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: they're lacking in the front court, and I think that's

1267
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 1: ultimately what ends up hurting them. Defensively in the back

1268
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 1: court there they're not that great, and defensively and even

1269
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: offensively in the front court, they're they're lacking at times,

1270
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 1: and so that that's their downfall. And in the in

1271
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 1: the postseason situation, they're good enough, what were they five

1272
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: hundred in the regular season, good enough to make it

1273
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 1: into the playoffs probably every year if they're built this way,

1274
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 1: But to make noise in the postseason that they don't

1275
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: have they don't have enough.

1276
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 2: They don't have the pepurgatory I think the repurgatory team.

1277
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree. I'll tell what it's with some trending,

1278
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 2: and then we'll move on to our next series, which

1279
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 2: is going to be a great one. Knicks and the Cavalier.

1280
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, absolutely well. The playoff field is officially set.

1281
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: We got the final two play in games. On Friday night,

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Speaker 1: the nightcap, DITZI Minnesota beat Oklahoma City pretty handily one

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Speaker 1: twenty to ninety five as Karl Anthony Town scored a

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Speaker 1: game high twenty eight points. Rudy Gobert, fresh off of

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Speaker 1: a suspension, came back with a twenty one point and

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01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 1: ten rebound effort. T Wolves clinched the eighth seed in

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Speaker 1: the Western Conference. Thought to Denver for Game one of

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Speaker 1: their first round series on Sunday night, Miami went on

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Speaker 1: a fifteen to one run in the final minutes of

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. They not you comeback victory to defeat

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01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 1: Chicago one O two to ninety one to clinch the

1292
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 1: eighth seed in the Eastern Conference in a first round

1293
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 1: matchup with the Bucks. In Major League Baseball, Jerry Kelnick

1294
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: a home run for the fourth consecutive game for the Mariners.

1295
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: They beat Colorado five to three. Cubs hitting five home

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Speaker 1: runs in an eight to two victory over the Dodgers

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. A home run for Christian Yelich as

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee beat San Diego eleven to two, seven rbi for

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Speaker 1: Francisco Lindor. He had a grand slam in that matchup

1300
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 1: as the Mets dominated Oakland seventeen to six. Bobashet had

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01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 1: five hits in an RBI at George Springer with a

1302
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 1: home run for the Blue Jays. They hand the Rays

1303
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Speaker 1: their first loss of the season, sixty three in favor

1304
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: of Toronto Da Debbie Rasmussen, who was very very good.

1305
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 1: Hard to do so by. Look, Toronto's not a slouch either.

1306
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 1: They're gonna be right. They're gonna be in the AO

1307
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 1: East Race all season long as well. So they're good,

1308
01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 1: shaping up to be a pretty that's going to be

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01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 1: a really good division. Uh, sands the Red Sox probably.

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Speaker 2: They're terrible. All right. We are the fellas hanging out

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Speaker 2: on a Fox Sports Saturday from thetiraq dot com studios.

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Speaker 2: We're going through the NBA Playoffs and uh, each of

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01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 2: the matchups and the probably the best series. I mean,

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01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 2: I think there's two really good series and this is

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Speaker 2: certainly one of them. In the first round. The Knicks

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01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 2: and Calves six o'clock start today from Cleveland. A really

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01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 2: really interesting matchup. Now it doesn't look like Julius Randol.

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Speaker 2: Julius Randall is a very important piece of the puzzle here,

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01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 2: and so with him kind of dinged up. I kind

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Speaker 2: of like I like Cleveland the series. I mean, ultimately,

1321
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 2: they just got a lot that bring act.

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01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Knicks have played them well.

1323
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 2: Uh this year.

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01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: I think they were three and one if I have

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01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: the record correct against them in their four matchups this year.

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Speaker 2: Randal is banged up.

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01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 1: It sounds like he's gonna at least try to play

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01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 1: yeah uh tonight, and that's that's big. But you know

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01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 1: they if Randall is out or if he's hampered, Look,

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01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 1: I think it was gonna be tough sledding anyway. I

1331
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 1: just love Cleveland in that front line and the way

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01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 1: that they can really control the paint.

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01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 2: Uh.

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01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 1: You know, you you have the the big two starters

1335
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 1: with Mobley uh and Jared Allen, and then if Isaaca

1336
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 1: Coro is healthy h and he's in there, that gives

1337
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 1: them another banger on the inside. It's gonna be tough sledding.

1338
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 1: I love Jalen Brunton, but that you're asking for him

1339
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 1: to have to pick up a lot of the slack

1340
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 1: by himself of Julius Randall is not himself. Look, I

1341
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 1: like Isaiah quickly like they have a they have some

1342
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,719
Speaker 1: good core players in the back court, But Donovan Mitchell's

1343
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: been on a tear to end the regular season.

1344
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 2: Man's unbelievable.

1345
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can easily see this one going seven, But

1346
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 1: I can also see Cleveland potentially winning this thing in

1347
01:08:58,040 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 1: in six.

1348
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 2: To be honest with you now, in fairness, the Knicks

1349
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 2: beat Cleveland without Juliets Randall by twenty a few weeks ago.

1350
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you one thing, I'm just looking forward

1351
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 2: to that Brunton and Donovan Mitchell matchup. Good brunt, he

1352
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 2: remember at forty eight on Cleveland last month till.

1353
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,600
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, and Cleveland has I think he's had a

1354
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 1: couple of games against them this year. Like the next

1355
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 1: backcourt has had some big games against the Cleveland backcourt

1356
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 1: in all of their matchups this season for whatever reason.

1357
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:36,600
Speaker 1: And well, I mean, Donovan Mitchell, as great of a

1358
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 1: player as he is, has never been a defensive stopper

1359
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 1: or neither as Darius Garland. So I think there's gonna

1360
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 1: be a lot of a lot of action from a

1361
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 1: bat from the backcourt standpoint for both teams, for sure,

1362
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:47,679
Speaker 1: But when it comes to the paint and it comes

1363
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 1: to rebounding, I think that's kind of where Cleveland has

1364
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: the advantage in the series over them.

1365
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I'm with you, man, I'm you know, it's funny, man.

1366
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 2: I'm just I love the playoffs and when you have

1367
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 2: these matchups and all of a sudden and when you

1368
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 2: have two teams that are as evenly matched as Nicks

1369
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 2: and Calves. I mean, I like the Cleveland team. I

1370
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 2: have to tell you, yo. Ever since Lebron left the

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01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 2: second time, I think they've done a hell of a

1372
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 2: job at putting that team together.

1373
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 1: They're done a phenomenal job. Like absolutely phenomenal job. First,

1374
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 1: it starts with the good drafting. You had Sexton and

1375
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: Garland that you were able to get with some high

1376
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:32,639
Speaker 1: draft picks. You're able to flip sext In and bringing

1377
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Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell. You draft Evan Mobley, who I think is

1378
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 1: going to end up being, you know, a perennial All

1379
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 1: Star once he ends up putting things together. You swing

1380
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,719
Speaker 1: the trade for Jared Allen, who's a great defensive player.

1381
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 1: I think they've done a phenomenal job up to your point,

1382
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 1: piecing this team together after it really could have fully collapsed,

1383
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 1: and they really in short order turned this thing around

1384
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 1: and made themselves into a perennial playoff contender, and like

1385
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Speaker 1: I said, I think within the next year or two,

1386
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Speaker 1: I think they can be a legit Eastern Conference like

1387
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Speaker 1: finals contender.

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01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, man, I agree. I think that's your next

1389
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 2: stat Yeah.

1390
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Speaker 5: You know.

1391
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 2: It's funny what's standing in their way? Uh?

1392
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,679
Speaker 1: I think youth and inexperience. Like, the most experienced player

1393
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 1: is Donovan Mitchell, who's had a couple of runs, uh

1394
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 1: with with the Utah Jazz throughout his career. But you

1395
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 1: have a lot of talented young players that just don't

1396
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 1: know playoff basketball. That's Mobley, that's Garland, you know. So

1397
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Speaker 1: they those are like the key cornerstones of your roster

1398
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 1: who just don't have a lot of postseason experience. I

1399
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 1: know Jared Allen has some. But that's the thing that

1400
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 1: the older those guys get, the more experienced they get

1401
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 1: in big moments. I think, the better you're gonna be,

1402
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 1: the better off you're gonna be. I think within the

1403
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 1: next three years, Evan Mobley, as great as Mitchell is,

1404
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 1: would not surprise me if Evan Mobley ends up being

1405
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 1: the best player on the roster. He has that he

1406
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 1: has that sort of talent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I I he is a when you saw him

1408
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 2: up close at USC, absolutely you know what player, it's

1409
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 2: a difference maker.

1410
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: And he doesn't even know what he's doing yet.

1411
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 2: That's the thing. I know. He's a he's a pop

1412
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 2: and he's he's got just incredible skills. Now, it's funny.

1413
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 2: The Knicks, I'm still I'm like luke warm on then

1414
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 2: going forward.

1415
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, they kind of feel like they're another one of

1416
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 1: those No Man's Land kind of teams. You can compete

1417
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 1: better than yeah, just purgatory. You can win a playoff series. Yeah,

1418
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 1: you can win a playoff series, but you're probably not

1419
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 1: getting much further than that. And I really don't know

1420
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 1: what the solution to that is because you're paying Julius

1421
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 1: Randall like a superstar player, and he certainly is not

1422
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 1: that he's a good player, maybe a borderline all star player,

1423
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 1: but that's that's pretty much his ceiling. Even Jalen Brunson,

1424
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:46,480
Speaker 1: who I like and is a really good players.

1425
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 2: After they they they moved hell in high Water they

1426
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 2: did to get to be able to get Brunton, And

1427
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 2: I go, I like Bronton a lot. You know, I'm

1428
01:12:55,360 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 2: seeing him, yeah, but guy, Yeah, but I just go,

1429
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. Is he that piece that you do

1430
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 2: that for?

1431
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I will say, look for a guy

1432
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 1: that's getting your twenty three a night, you know, twenty

1433
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 1: six million dollars a year is probably the going rate.

1434
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 1: That's probably not a bad contract. You're not paying him

1435
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,639
Speaker 1: forty a year, but still, you know, you're paying Julius

1436
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 1: Randall twenty five thirty a year. The four yer contract

1437
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 1: is killing him. So there's just not a lot of

1438
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 1: it was a huge.

1439
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 2: Mistake, Yeah, huge mistake.

1440
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,640
Speaker 1: So you have an albatross like that. I think the

1441
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 1: Barrett contract is a bit of an albatross to a

1442
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 1: degree too. He's okay, but I don't think he's I

1443
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 1: don't think he's worth the contract extension that he got.

1444
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,759
Speaker 1: So you're paying guys who don't necessarily warrant their production,

1445
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 1: doesn't warrant the salary cap number, and you really just

1446
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 1: don't have a whole lot of flexibility. You're way over

1447
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 1: the cap going into next year. You don't have any

1448
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 1: money coming off of the books, so you're pretty much

1449
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:53,680
Speaker 1: gonna run it back. And it's not like you have

1450
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 1: a bunch of young guys that are just gonna unlike Cleveland,

1451
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:58,839
Speaker 1: you know Garland's going to continue to get better. Mobley's

1452
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 1: gonna continue to get better. You really don't have that

1453
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 1: with the Knicks. Randall is who he is, Brunson is

1454
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 1: is what. Twenty seven he is kind of entering into

1455
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 1: his prime. So I mean at twenty seven to twenty eight,

1456
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 1: he is what he is. He's not gonna get better.

1457
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 1: So these guys r J. Barrett, I guess, but I

1458
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:16,680
Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like he's kind of hit his

1459
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 1: ceiling for the kind of player that he's going to be.

1460
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 2: He's a nice player, yeah, but but he's a guy

1461
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 2: that just puts up numbers. It's a stat stuff hard.

1462
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 2: He just puts up the kind of two three who's

1463
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 2: never going to dominate a game, like you're not fair,

1464
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 2: You're not afraid of No.

1465
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 1: I feel like RJ. Barrett is a uh he's he's

1466
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 1: the quintessential role player. Yeah, he's He's the guy that

1467
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 1: I would say he would be a three and D

1468
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,679
Speaker 1: although he's shooting thirty percent from three so but sort

1469
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 1: of that. He's not a guy that's going to create

1470
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 1: too many shots for himself. He's not gonna take over

1471
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 1: a game. He's a guy give him a defined role.

1472
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 1: He can play it really well. But the problem is

1473
01:14:57,439 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 1: he's being paid like a guy who's like a second

1474
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 1: option and for a title contending team or third option.

1475
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 1: He's not that that's the problem. And then then the

1476
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 1: four y contract is just yeah, yeah, that's that's the

1477
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 1: that's the bigger one.

1478
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 2: That's killing Alba tross.

1479
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 1: That is that's twenty million dollars a year. You're getting

1480
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 1: nothing out of.

1481
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:21,839
Speaker 2: The anchor. Yeah, that's that's difficult.

1482
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 1: Thank goodness they haven't met. They have quickly quickly. Was

1483
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,719
Speaker 1: was kind of a godsend that they found last year

1484
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 1: and he's been good for them and making.

1485
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:32,600
Speaker 2: He's just a ball in that kid. That kid just

1486
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 2: goes some balls.

1487
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,719
Speaker 1: Man, he is he is. He's got some Vinnie Johnson

1488
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 1: in him. He's like away guy, come off the bench

1489
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 1: and you can light it up for you.

1490
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good I love it. The microwave one

1491
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 2: of the greats. Yes, all right, we're gonna take quick

1492
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 2: t will come right back where the fellas hanging on

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Speaker 2: an NBA playoff Saturday morning every week on Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio from the Tireack dot Com Studios. Hey, I was funny.

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01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,719
Speaker 2: I'm just listening to me playing promo from the Odd

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Speaker 2: Couple and my boys YO to Rob and Chris and

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01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 2: chrishid something, and he goes, listen, if you if you're

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01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 2: Josh Harrison, you just bought Washington, go now and sign

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01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. And I completely get where he's coming from.

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01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 2: I feel a butt coming yeah, I you know, I

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01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 2: don't do that. Why not, because I think what you're

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01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 2: doing is you're rushing into something like I need to

1503
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 2: tear the whole thing down and build it back up.

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01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 2: And I'm not ready for Lamar.

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01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 1: My argument against that, I guess would be, I mean,

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01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:56,640
Speaker 1: they were not a god awful team last year. You know,

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01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 1: they were kind of in the mix for a lot

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01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 1: of the season. Adding a player the caliber of Lamar

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01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 1: Jackson now, look, the argument can be, is it gonna

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01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:07,680
Speaker 1: make them into a championship contender? Probably not.

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01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 2: But I need to build a I need to build

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01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 2: a super Bowl team, right, so I need to build

1513
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 2: from the I need to go from the from the

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01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:24,680
Speaker 2: like rip it down like I've already you know, Like

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01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 2: to me, it's like repeating the same mistakes, like I'm

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01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 2: looking for a quick fix. And and by the way,

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01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 2: Lamar is good he's not. He's not the difference maker.

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01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 2: He's not he's not one. He is still not. He's

1519
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 2: still an a ratic thrower. And if I make a mistake,

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01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:43,600
Speaker 2: I just buy this team, and I just make it,

1521
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna rush you and make them a two

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01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 2: hundred million dollar mistake that's gonna set my franchise back

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01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 2: in another five years. I'd rather slow play it and

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01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 2: build it right and then go draft one of these

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01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 2: kids and let you know, go that route before I

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01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 2: go and sign Lamar Jackson.

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01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 1: I would, at least because I know, or earlier in

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01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 1: the offseason it may have been at the Combine that

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01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera basically just put the Kai bash on the

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01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 1: situation and said, we're not doing it. We're moving forward

1531
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 1: with Sam Howe and he's gonna compete in camp and

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01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 1: see what he can do. But now it's a different

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01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 1: ownership group. I would at least talk to the coaching

1534
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 1: staff and say, look, let's at least talk to the

1535
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:24,600
Speaker 1: guy see if maybe we can find some sort of

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01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 1: contract compromise and if it's something that fits in what

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01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 1: we're looking for. If it's a three year deal with

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01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 1: slightly less guarantees, who knows, and if he's amenable to it,

1539
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 1: you don't have to move very far from Baltimore to DC.

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01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 1: Maybe it's something we can think about. I guess I

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01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't put any restrictions on it or just put a

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01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 1: hard line. No, I would at least go go back

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01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 1: to the negotiation table and see what the interest is.

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01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 2: It's a great debate. You get my point though, Like

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01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 2: to me, you're just rushing into something and that's not

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01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 2: how you should do. You know, again, you just buy

1547
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 2: this team. And maybe it is maybe Smith because I

1548
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 2: don't believe in Lamar that Lamar is going to turn

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01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 2: them into a super Bowl team. He won't.

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01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 1: I think he make him a legit playoff team, especially

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01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 1: in the NFC.

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01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 2: Is right, Yeah, But like like what are you trying

1553
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 2: to do though you're trying to you know, where are

1554
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:18,639
Speaker 2: you trying to go? Like that's my that's my whole

1555
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 2: point because because and I'm one that likes to build

1556
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 2: things like from the jump, and you know, I remember Josh.

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01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 2: You know, Josh took the advice from his NBA people,

1558
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 2: Sam Hickey that hey, look we got to tear it

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01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 2: down and then build it all the way back up

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01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 2: and even though they hadn't won a championship, they became relevant,

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01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 2: which they hadn't been since the two thousand and one

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01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:43,440
Speaker 2: season with with Alan Iverson.

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Speaker 1: Right, y'all know, yr, Look, your argument is certainly valid,

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01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:48,719
Speaker 1: and I understand both sides, because, look, there there's something

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01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 1: to be said for not just being a decent team

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01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 1: making it to the playoffs. You want to be an

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01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 1: actual championship contender. I get that, and they're not in

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01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 1: a position to do that this year or maybe even

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01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 1: the next couple of years. But I do think Lamar

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01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 1: Jackson makes them at least a legit playoff contender. And

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01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 1: if you feel that you can find a way to

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01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 1: rebuild through the draft and do some other savvy moves

1573
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 1: while also fighting for playoff positioning, if you can find

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01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 1: a way to do both, which is very difficult in

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01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 1: the NFL, then I think it's something that you at

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01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 1: least try to explore.

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01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, now it's interesting. Let's pick it up too along

1578
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 2: with the NBA fellas right here, Fox Sports Radio. Good morning,

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Speaker 2: good morning, good morning, good morning, good good good, good

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01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 2: good morning. Everybody. Happy NBA playoffs to all across the nation.

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Speaker 2: Man where the fellas, He's Kevin Figures. I'm Anthony Gargano.

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Speaker 2: Saturday morning, the beginning of the NBA playoffs, we're also

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Speaker 2: insight two weeks for the NFL Draft, which we cannot wait. Fellas,

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Speaker 2: let's take a quick I know we've been we've been

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Speaker 2: doing a lot of NBA as you can well imagine

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01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 2: talking NBA playoffs all morning long. I'd like to take

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01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 2: a quick little, uh, a little turn because we are

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01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 2: inside tweaks from the draft, fig and steak a little bit.

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Speaker 2: It feels like it does. It really does, and so

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01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 2: let's can we do this? Can we go through a

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01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 2: little bit? I got a I got one of these

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01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 2: mock drafts in front of me. This is good.

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01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:22,679
Speaker 1: You had one last week. Well, wasn't a mock draftable,

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01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 1: it was a ranking from the thirty third Team.

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01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, they did a yes, yes, yes, you have a

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01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 2: good man.

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01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 1: A ranking of all of the uh how they see

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01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 1: it the best talent, right, yes, prospects in the draft?

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01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 2: Right, So I now got They just put out a

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01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 2: mock draft of five point zero mock draft. Okay, and

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01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 2: so I want to because it's good. It just provides

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01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 2: really good talking point. I love this website, the thirty

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01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 2: third team dot com. It's a great inside football NFL

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01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 2: website and other people put it together and it's uh

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01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 2: it's good work. Many a lot of good geeks for.

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01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 1: A lot of four former executives GMS coaches. I know

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01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 1: Mike Martz writes for them here and there. Yeah, so

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01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 1: there's a lot of good insights from people that really

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01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:10,960
Speaker 1: know the game. So, yeah, you're a football junkie. The

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01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 1: thirty third Team is a great website. We're not getting

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01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 1: paid for to say this. They're just a you're I'm

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01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 1: a fan ands a fan. As I mentioned, he knows

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01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:20,600
Speaker 1: some people that started and work there. It really is

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01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 1: a great a great website for if you're an NFL junkie.

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01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 2: So this is what this is their mock and let's

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01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 2: let's do it, uh, Carolina from the Bears. After that

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01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 2: big trade, they go Bryce Young quarterback Alabama, like we

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01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 2: talked about, like everybody says, yep, they go Bryce as

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01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 2: the consensuve consensus number one overall pick.

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01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 1: And he just I believe earlier this week by most

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01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 1: sports books, is now the favorite because for the longest time,

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01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 1: when the trade was first made, it was CJ.

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01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 2: Stroud.

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01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and up until I believe Wednesday of this week,

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01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 1: Stroud had still been the favorite. And now that's kind

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01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 1: of flipped to Bryce Young after Bryce had his official

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01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 1: visit in Carolina.

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01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 2: So then you have the number two selections Houston, they

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01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 2: have Euston staying there, and they got the Texans taking

1641
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 2: c J. Stroud, And I like Stroud. You know what's funny.

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01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 2: I like Bryce seank and listen, I got no. I

1643
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 2: think Bryce is a terrific player. He's the most polished.

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01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 2: I wish he was just a little taller, and there's

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01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 2: something about c J. Stroud that I really like, his sturdiness.

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01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 2: I think he moved if if you could teach the

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01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:42,640
Speaker 2: two guys I think could be great, great players or

1648
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 2: busts depending on where they go and who's coaching them,

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01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:50,679
Speaker 2: are Stroud and Anthony Richardson.

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01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 1: And Anthony richards I will say his individual work ethic too,

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01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 1: and really putting the want to to go on there

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01:24:57,360 --> 01:25:01,040
Speaker 1: and try to improve his accuracy. I think the physical

1653
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 1: skills and all that are pretty are there for CJ.

1654
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 2: Stroud.

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01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 1: It's not fair to him to hold the Ohio State

1656
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:10,679
Speaker 1: quarterback stigma against him, but there's just too many games

1657
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,600
Speaker 1: of his throughout his career that look too much like

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01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 1: the late Dwayne Haskins and too much like justin fields,

1659
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 1: a lot of easily defined throws. Now, I will say

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01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 1: he bawled his ass off against Georgia and that was

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01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:24,680
Speaker 1: the best I've ever seen him play, even in a

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01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:27,599
Speaker 1: losing effort. And he's everything that people wanted to see

1663
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 1: from him. He showed being able to escape pressure, stay

1664
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 1: in the pocket, take hits, stay in there, and make

1665
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 1: tough throws a lot of things that he hadn't been

1666
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 1: able to do in previous matchups, whether it's against Michigan

1667
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 1: or otherwise. So he's shown that he can do it.

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01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 1: I guess he just hadn't done it super consistently. Where

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01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 1: for me with Bryce Young, I just don't see any holes.

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01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy has got hurt, missed what one

1671
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 1: game battle through injury in the Texas game and it

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01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 1: was up to will them to win that? Yeah, oh yeah,

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01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 1: I mean is a cur is off that's smart to

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01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 1: off the charge whatever. I forget the name of this

1675
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 1: new test they do. It's not the wonder Lick, but whatever,

1676
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 1: whatever what it's called. He you know, blew that blew

1677
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:11,640
Speaker 1: the doors off of that too. Like for me, I

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01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 1: I just go with the skill set, the smarts, the production.

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01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 1: The only thing he's missing is height. And uh, you know,

1680
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:21,720
Speaker 1: I forget exactly who said this, I know it is.

1681
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 1: It's a football game plan. There's a scout, a guy

1682
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 1: that does a great job named Emory Hunt, a great

1683
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 1: YouTuber who does a lot of breakdowns in a big

1684
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 1: time scout and one of his quotes is size is

1685
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 1: not a skill. So yeah, you can't teach size, sure,

1686
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:36,639
Speaker 1: but you know you can only you can only work

1687
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 1: with what you're given and see and he has absolutely

1688
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 1: maximized every single ounce of talent.

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01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 2: A great way to put a maximized every bit of it.

1690
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 2: You're right about it. I just wish he was taller

1691
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 2: to shame it would be.

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01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:52,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is for me, it's worth it's worth the risk.

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01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 1: If you literally check every single solitary box other than

1694
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:59,640
Speaker 1: the fact that you're not six to two, then I

1695
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 1: feel like I could find a way around it. Because again,

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01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 1: it's not like there's not precedent for shorter quarterbacks to

1697
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:05,520
Speaker 1: have some success.

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01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 2: And here's here's the truth of the matter. If Kylin

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01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 2: Murray was in a video game junkie and a bit

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01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 2: of an a hole, he would be a great quarterback.

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01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:21,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he has all the skills and talent and

1702
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 1: abilities and yeah, you know yeah, just seriously, if he

1703
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:28,640
Speaker 1: had the work ethic and the you know, all of

1704
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 1: the of what Bryce Young seemingly has.

1705
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 2: Yes, and that's my point. I'm to make your point.

1706
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:42,599
Speaker 2: If Murray is as Bryce Young's intangibles or Jalen hurts

1707
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 2: and tangibles, then he's the star. I think because he's

1708
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:49,599
Speaker 2: got a great arm, he could move, he could see

1709
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 2: the field.

1710
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 1: And look at the he's the least he's had levels

1711
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:55,759
Speaker 1: of success in his career. Now he's tailed off towards

1712
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 1: the end of seasons. But I mean it's not like

1713
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 1: he has that. He's been an ineffective quarterback. So if

1714
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray can play as well as he's played at

1715
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 1: the highest of the highs during his career, why can't

1716
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 1: Bryce Young do that and do and do even better?

1717
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 2: So that's a great point.

1718
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I have no qualms whatsoever about Bryce Young

1719
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 1: being first overall. He's he's been the runaway for me

1720
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 1: from really from day one, to be honest.

1721
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 2: All right, So then the and the fit with the

1722
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 2: third pick, they have a projected trade Indianapolis with Arizona,

1723
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:32,719
Speaker 2: and they trade. They say, will Levis is the pick.

1724
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:36,639
Speaker 2: That is that the cults move up to take will Levis?

1725
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 1: It's really high. Do you have to trade up to

1726
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 1: get him?

1727
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:45,680
Speaker 2: Well, if you're the culture do well?

1728
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 1: Look, I mean, if you're the culture sitting at what

1729
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 1: you're four, right, I mean you know Arizona's not going

1730
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 1: to take a quarterback unless you're.

1731
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 2: Afraid, well you're afraid somebody else is gonna jump. Well,

1732
01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 2: that's the point. That's why is.

1733
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 1: It worth trading up for Will Levis? Like, if I'm

1734
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 1: gonna trade up until the top five for somebody, you

1735
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:05,679
Speaker 1: better be like, damn sure, like you expect this guy

1736
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 1: to be Andrew Luck, you know what I mean, and

1737
01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:10,759
Speaker 1: not just trade up because you're desperate for a quarterback.

1738
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 1: That would be my feel.

1739
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:14,320
Speaker 2: But you're not. It's not like you're you're moving up.

1740
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:16,759
Speaker 2: You know, twenty spots. You're moving up one spot.

1741
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 1: But I mean even moving up one spot can still

1742
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 1: cost you a two or a three or whatever. Draft

1743
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:23,640
Speaker 1: picks are good currency.

1744
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 2: But you know what, if you think I've had this

1745
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 2: conversation with many a GM and if you believe in

1746
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 2: that quarterback and you believe they he's the guy, whether

1747
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 2: you're moving up from seventeen to two like my man

1748
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:42,800
Speaker 2: how he did once upon a time, or you know,

1749
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 2: you're moving from four to three, and I gotta tell you,

1750
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:50,759
Speaker 2: i'd like Levis, I do. Oh no, we have to discussion.

1751
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 2: Chance has a good chance. He's big, he's got a

1752
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 2: big arm. He's not a complete he's not a statue.

1753
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 2: No he's not.

1754
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 1: But again, I just didn't see a whole lot of

1755
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 1: them that told me that he will be a franchise

1756
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:04,880
Speaker 1: quarterback or at least, I'll put it this way, worth

1757
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 1: taking in the top ten or top five of the draft.

1758
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 1: I just don't say that's a rich Toby, you know,

1759
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:12,280
Speaker 1: I hear you. I think he's a second round He's

1760
01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 1: a second day pickture.

1761
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. Wow, I'm not taking him.

1762
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 1: In the first round.

1763
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:16,680
Speaker 2: I'm not.

1764
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 1: And if I do take him in the first round,

1765
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 1: it's in the it's in the bottom third. We're talking

1766
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:23,880
Speaker 1: twenties because I can get the fifth year option out

1767
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 1: of him.

1768
01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 2: But that'd be about it. Wow. Well, yeah, no, I

1769
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 2: would I listen, I got no quality now, I'm I'm

1770
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:35,439
Speaker 2: an Anthony Richardson man. So yeah, I love the kick

1771
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:37,800
Speaker 2: and I and I know he needs to get that,

1772
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 2: but he needs to go to the right spot. He does.

1773
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:43,519
Speaker 2: He needs Like if I had Andy Reid, you know,

1774
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 2: as my coach, I like he would be Andy re

1775
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:50,799
Speaker 2: could make Anthony Richardson into a star. Yeah.

1776
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:54,200
Speaker 1: Or even if if Carolina had stayed down and Frank

1777
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:55,760
Speaker 1: Wright got a chance to work with him, I think

1778
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:58,600
Speaker 1: that would have been a good fit for him too. Yeah.

1779
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:01,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, somebody who has a you know, uh and

1780
01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 1: obviously a franchise that can also also wait because I

1781
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 1: don't think Anthony richards And if he sees the field

1782
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 1: this year, that's a problem. Oh yeah, I don't think

1783
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:11,439
Speaker 1: you want him setting foot on the field this year

1784
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:12,080
Speaker 1: in any capacity.

1785
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I agree, he's a project like you got

1786
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:17,599
Speaker 2: to go that route, you got to go that project route.

1787
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and even from me, if I can't, it's not

1788
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 1: gonna happen because his his physical measurables are just so

1789
01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:25,400
Speaker 1: off the charts. It's almost like like you talk about

1790
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:28,160
Speaker 1: Levis and Lewis is not a statue. He's a solid athlete,

1791
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:31,800
Speaker 1: but he's not a crazy athlete like Anthony Richardson. I'm

1792
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:34,120
Speaker 1: more apt to take a reach on someone like Richardson

1793
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 1: because it's just through the roof with his physical intangible

1794
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:40,920
Speaker 1: his singles. Yeah, ceiling is so much higher from a

1795
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 1: physical standpoint than Will Levis, So I could certainly.

1796
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 2: Understand how I won't disagree with that. I think his

1797
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 2: I think of your going you talk its ceiling, Anthony Richardson, Yes, it's.

1798
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 1: Probably higher than anybody, to be honest.

1799
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, although Stroud Shroud's close, he's a second.

1800
01:31:57,840 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, not that he's not as much of a run.

1801
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:01,800
Speaker 1: It's not going to hurt you as much in the

1802
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:04,040
Speaker 1: in the run game as as Richardson was right.

1803
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 2: But but yeah, from.

1804
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:07,680
Speaker 1: A physical standpoint, he's a very good athlete. He just

1805
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 1: doesn't use his legs as much.

1806
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:11,040
Speaker 2: As I think he should. And I think he could.

1807
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:12,559
Speaker 2: I think he could. I don't think he could.

1808
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:14,679
Speaker 1: I don't think he's I don't think he's as good

1809
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:16,759
Speaker 1: of a runner as Richardson, but he certainly is better

1810
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 1: than he showed.

1811
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 2: He likes to stay in the windows. See. The only

1812
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 2: problem I had with Stroud is the windows that he

1813
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 2: had at Ohio State, which.

1814
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:31,360
Speaker 1: Is I mean those weren't those were open doors. Those

1815
01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:33,800
Speaker 1: are open garage doors, don't even windows. I mean, on

1816
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:35,560
Speaker 1: top of the fact that I think Ryan Day is

1817
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:38,080
Speaker 1: one of the great offensive mines in college football, I mean,

1818
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:39,639
Speaker 1: I think he's up there with Lincoln Riley.

1819
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:40,880
Speaker 2: I agree with that.

1820
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:44,080
Speaker 1: So you have a phenomenal scheme. But I mean he

1821
01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:47,000
Speaker 1: had three first round picks a receiver essentially these last

1822
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:49,759
Speaker 1: couple of years to throw to, which doesn't hurt also,

1823
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:52,840
Speaker 1: So not to disparage him, but I'm just pointing out

1824
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:56,639
Speaker 1: the facts. So those things kind of unfortunately work against him.

1825
01:32:57,040 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh the so then they go with cart Arizona

1826
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:07,519
Speaker 2: after the after the trade with the Colts, they slide

1827
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:11,759
Speaker 2: down the spot and then they get Broderick Jones, which

1828
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:14,960
Speaker 2: makes sense. So they need a top offensive line and

1829
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 2: they get the best one on the board. And you know,

1830
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:20,840
Speaker 2: here's a guy that you know will be a cornerstone

1831
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:22,320
Speaker 2: for years to come. Yeah.

1832
01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:24,200
Speaker 1: I know some people are debating whether or not he's

1833
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:27,360
Speaker 1: a guard or a tackle. So I'm hoping. I'm guessing

1834
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 1: you will think that he's gonna play tackle if you're

1835
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 1: taking him that high in the draft. Got unless you

1836
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:33,920
Speaker 1: think he's unless you think he's you know, Hutchinson or something,

1837
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:35,679
Speaker 1: and he's one of the greatest guards in the history

1838
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:37,479
Speaker 1: of the sport. And even then, I don't think you

1839
01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 1: take him in the top five.

1840
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:40,559
Speaker 2: So no, I think you gotta play tackle.

1841
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:43,519
Speaker 1: I try him out of tackle tackle first, you know.

1842
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:47,960
Speaker 2: So then they have Seattle who comes in from Denver,

1843
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:54,640
Speaker 2: and that Seattle takes JALENK. Carter. That there was a

1844
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 2: lot of talk that Carter would float back down maybe

1845
01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:01,200
Speaker 2: even be there at ten for the Eagles, right right,

1846
01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:04,439
Speaker 2: because there's that I know that Jalen Carter was in

1847
01:34:04,479 --> 01:34:10,479
Speaker 2: Philadelphia last week and that he was dining on crab

1848
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 2: fries at Chicky's and Pete's nice and uh so, uh

1849
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:18,879
Speaker 2: but I but here they have him going to Seattle.

1850
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 2: I could see it, you know, I could see Pete Carroll,

1851
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:25,759
Speaker 2: you know when he's got an eye for defense, and

1852
01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 2: Jalen Carter is that good. So he's that much of

1853
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:31,639
Speaker 2: a disruptor in the middle. He is.

1854
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:34,920
Speaker 1: And Pete always loves giving guys second chances to or

1855
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:37,280
Speaker 1: guys who are misunderstood or you know, embracing him. That

1856
01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:40,559
Speaker 1: was a big mantra of his at USC. And remember

1857
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:43,000
Speaker 1: the Brandon Banks story, the guy who was falsely accused

1858
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:45,479
Speaker 1: of sexual assaults was locked up for a while, he

1859
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 1: got released and Pete Carroll brought him into Seahawks camp

1860
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:49,800
Speaker 1: and I think he played a game or two for them.

1861
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:53,559
Speaker 1: So he's all for reclamation projects. And Jalen Carter, by

1862
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:56,799
Speaker 1: all accounts, from a talent standpoint, on most people's boards,

1863
01:34:57,000 --> 01:34:59,800
Speaker 1: is like by far the best defensive player, if not

1864
01:34:59,840 --> 01:35:02,720
Speaker 1: the it's the best player overall, regardless of position for

1865
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:05,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people. And because of the you know,

1866
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 1: the driving situation, the driving incident is falling down boards.

1867
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:10,840
Speaker 1: But if he can fall in Seattle's lap to go

1868
01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:13,639
Speaker 1: along with that good young defense. You know, I think

1869
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:16,040
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people will be smiling.

1870
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:20,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you, completely with you on that. All right,

1871
01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:23,960
Speaker 2: that's the top five. We'll take a quick tee you.

1872
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 2: We'll come back, we'll dive into the we'll get back

1873
01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 2: to the NBA, and then we'll come back to the

1874
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:33,680
Speaker 2: mock draft. So we'll kind of alternate with segments and

1875
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:36,479
Speaker 2: you can check that all that stuff out where the

1876
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 2: fella is right here. I'm into the draft, fig, how

1877
01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:44,080
Speaker 2: about it? This little draft talk got me like football,

1878
01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:48,360
Speaker 2: foot football football. I'm right there with you. Well, we

1879
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:51,840
Speaker 2: got basketball, basketball, basketball and the playoffs coming up next.

1880
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:58,719
Speaker 2: Fella is right here on Fox Sports Radio. All right,

1881
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:12,639
Speaker 2: fellas from the tyre rak dot com studios. Fellas hanging out. Figure,

1882
01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:16,479
Speaker 2: let's go back to the NBA and what I think

1883
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:21,240
Speaker 2: is probably the best series. And we talked about Nicks Calves,

1884
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:23,960
Speaker 2: it might be it will be a close second, but

1885
01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:29,960
Speaker 2: Golden State Sacramento and this should be great basketball, just

1886
01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 2: great basketball. And we talked earlier about the sack team

1887
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:36,479
Speaker 2: and I love this sack down team. I thought they

1888
01:36:36,479 --> 01:36:40,320
Speaker 2: had a great season, and man, justice would would rain.

1889
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:45,760
Speaker 2: If Sacramento goes on a bit of a run, yeah,

1890
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:48,320
Speaker 2: I would love the state. I probably think Golden State

1891
01:36:48,360 --> 01:36:51,360
Speaker 2: will probably win this thing you get Wiggins back, But

1892
01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:54,360
Speaker 2: I would love to see Fox the bonus. I just

1893
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:56,040
Speaker 2: love the way they go, I love the way they

1894
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:59,599
Speaker 2: play the game, and they've had a great season. Fig.

1895
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:01,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would not be surprised if Sacramento did

1896
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:03,800
Speaker 1: win the series. If I'm gonna be honest with you,

1897
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:05,639
Speaker 1: just knowing the way the season has played out. Look,

1898
01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:08,840
Speaker 1: I know better than to count out a multiple time

1899
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:11,920
Speaker 1: world champion, a veteran team like Golden State. I know

1900
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:15,519
Speaker 1: they've been awful on the road all season long, and

1901
01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:17,639
Speaker 1: sure getting Wiggings back will help, but what shape will

1902
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:19,559
Speaker 1: he be in. He hasn't played in a month, you know,

1903
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:21,360
Speaker 1: So we can't just act like he's gonna slide in

1904
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:23,639
Speaker 1: and just, you know, pick up exactly where he left off.

1905
01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:26,679
Speaker 1: So look, I think the way that the Kings have played,

1906
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:30,680
Speaker 1: I don't think they're scared. I think they're hungry. I

1907
01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 1: think some bonus is a load on the inside. And

1908
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:34,720
Speaker 1: as much as I like Draymond Green defensively, I think

1909
01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:38,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna have his hands full. They're young, they have

1910
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:41,559
Speaker 1: good shooters to Harrison Barnes can score the ball. Kegan

1911
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:44,200
Speaker 1: Murray's been spectacular for them this year shooting the three ball.

1912
01:37:44,479 --> 01:37:46,280
Speaker 1: Malik Monk is a guy that can light you up

1913
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:48,920
Speaker 1: off the bench. I have a lot of belief in

1914
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:52,680
Speaker 1: the Sacramento Kings, like I actually officially picked him to

1915
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:54,680
Speaker 1: win this series on Friday. To be honest with you,

1916
01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 1: I think you're really of.

1917
01:37:57,120 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 2: It, man, I hope so. So. I would now listen,

1918
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:06,400
Speaker 2: you follow you being out west, you follow that division closely,

1919
01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:09,559
Speaker 2: you follow those teams closely. Let's take a look at

1920
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:13,040
Speaker 2: Golden State, and what are you seeing from Golden State now?

1921
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:15,320
Speaker 2: You know, it looked like when Clay came back to me.

1922
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:19,720
Speaker 2: Clay's been He's had some amazing dominant performances, it really has.

1923
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:21,720
Speaker 1: But he's also had some games where it's like, you know,

1924
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:25,800
Speaker 1: twelve points and not hitting from three. You know, so

1925
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:28,720
Speaker 1: it can be very inconsistent. I feel like that the

1926
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:31,439
Speaker 1: margin is not as wide for Golden State this year

1927
01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:34,599
Speaker 1: as it typically has been. They're obviously not as good

1928
01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:38,560
Speaker 1: as they have been Defensively, they've had so much inconsistency

1929
01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:41,759
Speaker 1: even from some of their regulars like Dreymond you mentioned

1930
01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:44,439
Speaker 1: Clay Thompson. Steph has been amazing for the most part

1931
01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:46,719
Speaker 1: when he's been in there and been healthy. Jordan Poole,

1932
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 1: as good as he is, is extremely streaky, and you

1933
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:51,040
Speaker 1: have no idea what you're gonna get it from him

1934
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:52,479
Speaker 1: on a night in, night out basis, he can give

1935
01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:54,840
Speaker 1: you thirty five or he can take thirty five shots

1936
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 1: to score eight, you know what I mean. And so

1937
01:38:57,080 --> 01:38:58,760
Speaker 1: that's one of those things that you fear. And the

1938
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:01,640
Speaker 1: problem is he's someone that rely on. He's not just

1939
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:03,920
Speaker 1: a role player that can score some points for you

1940
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:06,040
Speaker 1: and hopefully he has a good night. Like I feel

1941
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:08,720
Speaker 1: like Golden State No. Eight times out of ten is

1942
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:11,200
Speaker 1: not gonna win unless Jordan Poole has a positive impact

1943
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:12,040
Speaker 1: on what they're doing.

1944
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 2: On a night a night out basis. Yeah, I mean,

1945
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:19,240
Speaker 2: let's be real here. I mean, like he desperately needs

1946
01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:24,080
Speaker 2: and sometimes it's weird how he gets lost. Yeah. Absolutely.

1947
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:27,559
Speaker 1: I also think the way that he plays is doesn't

1948
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:30,519
Speaker 1: lend itself optimally to the style of play that Golden

1949
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:32,880
Speaker 1: State plays. If I feel like he's a guy that

1950
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:35,680
Speaker 1: kind of needs the ball and is more effective when

1951
01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:38,960
Speaker 1: he's creating as opposed not that he can't shoot, you know,

1952
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:40,479
Speaker 1: catch and shoot and all that, but I feel like

1953
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:43,040
Speaker 1: he's most effective when he actually has the ball in

1954
01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:44,320
Speaker 1: his hands and he's kind of the head of the

1955
01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 1: snake and getting things going. And that doesn't really just

1956
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:51,000
Speaker 1: fit in seamlessly with the way that Golden State generally

1957
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:54,479
Speaker 1: likes to play, you know what.

1958
01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:58,400
Speaker 2: That's a great point, and they're not. And it's true

1959
01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 2: even whenigans Wigans fills in, you know, fits in a

1960
01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:03,840
Speaker 2: little bit better. But he absolutely does. Yeh.

1961
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:04,200
Speaker 3: Three.

1962
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:05,799
Speaker 1: He is a quintessential three and D guy.

1963
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:10,840
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know. But it is so interesting how like

1964
01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:16,200
Speaker 2: they almost feel like they're two teams when they're when

1965
01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:19,599
Speaker 2: they go to the bench. M h. It's a it's

1966
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 2: a weird dynamic. Yeah, But what do you make of

1967
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:26,040
Speaker 2: the other piece of it, which was the home road disparity.

1968
01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:29,320
Speaker 2: I mean, it was so ridiculous that you almost can't

1969
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:30,080
Speaker 2: just slough it all.

1970
01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:33,960
Speaker 1: It's weird because generally, usually you know, veteran teams lock

1971
01:40:34,040 --> 01:40:35,519
Speaker 1: in on the road, and a lot of times veteran

1972
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:37,200
Speaker 1: teams will play even better on the road than they

1973
01:40:37,200 --> 01:40:40,439
Speaker 1: will at home. And for them to be historically bad

1974
01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:43,479
Speaker 1: on the road is mind boggling to me. Like they

1975
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:45,919
Speaker 1: were a solid I don't think they were a dominant

1976
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:47,680
Speaker 1: defensive team at home this year like they have been

1977
01:40:47,680 --> 01:40:50,240
Speaker 1: in the past, but they were solid. They were just dreadful,

1978
01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:54,080
Speaker 1: like bad, terribly bad on the road defensively and that

1979
01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 1: and that's not just Andrew Wiggins. I think they were

1980
01:40:56,200 --> 01:40:59,639
Speaker 1: bad before Wiggins even went out. Like, there there's something

1981
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:02,840
Speaker 1: there or communication wise, chemistry wise, and people are pointing

1982
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:05,800
Speaker 1: to the Draymond Jordan Poole thing, and look, maybe there

1983
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:08,200
Speaker 1: is something to that. I think it's more than just that.

1984
01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:10,800
Speaker 1: What it is, I don't know, but I have to

1985
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:12,960
Speaker 1: believe that it's more than just that. But look, I

1986
01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 1: do think there's something too. And look, you've been around

1987
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:17,679
Speaker 1: teams and been in locker rooms and know the importance

1988
01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:21,479
Speaker 1: of chemistry. And sometimes when chemistry is shaken, it can

1989
01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:23,680
Speaker 1: be it can be a tough thing to overcome. It

1990
01:41:23,720 --> 01:41:25,920
Speaker 1: could be something that lingers for an entire season. So

1991
01:41:26,680 --> 01:41:29,479
Speaker 1: it very well could be the lingering effects of what

1992
01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:31,559
Speaker 1: happened all the way back in training camp with Jordan

1993
01:41:31,640 --> 01:41:34,840
Speaker 1: Poole and uh Draymond Green, and that can affect the

1994
01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:37,719
Speaker 1: chemistry and chemistry is vitally important for a team, especially

1995
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:39,040
Speaker 1: when it comes to playing on the road.

1996
01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, that's a great point about chemistry and

1997
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:48,000
Speaker 2: being on the road and how vital that thing is.

1998
01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:52,680
Speaker 2: So so do you think Sacramento has enough you know,

1999
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:58,519
Speaker 2: grit and without being again it's the playoff tested thing, right.

2000
01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, they do. They aren't playoff test, so you're right. Yeah,

2001
01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:03,000
Speaker 1: And that's kind of why I'm going out a little

2002
01:42:03,040 --> 01:42:06,800
Speaker 1: bit on the limb here with this. So I like,

2003
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:08,759
Speaker 1: I look, it certainly would not surprise me if Golden

2004
01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:10,880
Speaker 1: State won in five games, you know what I mean.

2005
01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:13,360
Speaker 1: It's one of those like they're they're a veteran team.

2006
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:15,760
Speaker 1: They can flip the switch most likely and and win

2007
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:18,080
Speaker 1: this thing going away. But I feel like I've seen

2008
01:42:18,160 --> 01:42:22,280
Speaker 1: enough of Sacramento. Could they be better defensively? It's Mike

2009
01:42:22,360 --> 01:42:25,440
Speaker 1: that's Mike Brown's strong suit. And they're actually better offensively

2010
01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:27,040
Speaker 1: than they have been defensively this year.

2011
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:27,920
Speaker 2: Uh.

2012
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:30,200
Speaker 1: But I just have I have I have a weird

2013
01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:33,200
Speaker 1: vibe around Golden State and have nothing but good vibes

2014
01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:35,800
Speaker 1: around Sacramento and how they've played this year, and how

2015
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:37,960
Speaker 1: they've played together this year, and they and the amount

2016
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:40,720
Speaker 1: of young talent, and they're not as young and inexperienced

2017
01:42:40,760 --> 01:42:43,519
Speaker 1: as they are. They're not scared. That's the thing to me.

2018
01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:47,639
Speaker 1: Those guys. Darren Fox does not have fear. Demanta Sabonis

2019
01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:48,599
Speaker 1: is as tough as they come.

2020
01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:51,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, I love I love Fox. Yeah.

2021
01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:54,240
Speaker 1: Look, look, Barnes won a championship with Golden State. Kevin

2022
01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:56,960
Speaker 1: Herders had deep playoff runs with the Atlanta Hawks before,

2023
01:42:57,400 --> 01:42:59,959
Speaker 1: so I mean it's not like they have zero playoff experience.

2024
01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:03,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. And they got a nice little bags too, Like

2025
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:04,519
Speaker 2: they got like good role players.

2026
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:06,439
Speaker 1: Monk is a good role player off the bench. Yeah,

2027
01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:07,519
Speaker 1: you had some big games.

2028
01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah he is. Oh he's strong. I agree, all right, brother,

2029
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:13,720
Speaker 2: Hey this with some trending. All right.

2030
01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:16,320
Speaker 1: Well, the Timberwolves got twenty eight points from Carl Anthony

2031
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:19,280
Speaker 1: Towns Friday night. Anthony Edwards woke up struggled against the

2032
01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:23,160
Speaker 1: Lakers on Tuesday night, scored nineteen points on Friday, helping

2033
01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:25,000
Speaker 1: the two Wolves to a one, twenty to ninety five

2034
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:27,880
Speaker 1: victory over Oklahoma City. They clinched the eighth seed in

2035
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:31,080
Speaker 1: the Western Conference and a first round matchup with Denver.

2036
01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:34,040
Speaker 1: Game one will be on Sunday, nights. The Heat got

2037
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:36,880
Speaker 1: thirty one points from Jimmy Butler. Max Drus also scored

2038
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:40,479
Speaker 1: thirty one on seven May three pointers. They defeated Chicago

2039
01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:43,400
Speaker 1: in comeback fashion to clinch the final playoff spot in

2040
01:43:43,479 --> 01:43:46,360
Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference and a first round matchup with the

2041
01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:49,640
Speaker 1: Milwaukee Bucks. As for the MVP race, Gionnisi to the

2042
01:43:49,680 --> 01:43:52,519
Speaker 1: Koopo one of the three finalists for NBA MVP, along

2043
01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:54,920
Speaker 1: with Joel Embii to the seventy six Ers and the

2044
01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:59,799
Speaker 1: reigning MVP Nicola Jokic of the Denver Nuggets. Major Major

2045
01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:04,439
Speaker 1: Baseball Francisco Lindora Grand Slam seven RBI total for the Mets.

2046
01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:09,000
Speaker 1: All over Oakland were the Mets seventeen to six. Justin

2047
01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:11,320
Speaker 1: Steele struck out eight and seven innings of work for

2048
01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:13,960
Speaker 1: the Cubs. They beat the Dodgers in Los Angeles eight

2049
01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:16,599
Speaker 1: to three. Cups hit five home runs in that game,

2050
01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:19,960
Speaker 1: two home runs for Rowdy Telaz as Milwaukee dominated the Padres.

2051
01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:21,679
Speaker 2: Tazuki back in the line up.

2052
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:23,880
Speaker 1: Goe Suzuki right back in the lineup. HiT's another one.

2053
01:44:23,960 --> 01:44:27,320
Speaker 1: They're nine hitter Yon Gomes two home runs. Dodger pitcherstaff

2054
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:29,559
Speaker 1: struggling a little bit early in the season. Pretty much

2055
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:33,080
Speaker 1: everybody not named Julio Urias is caught in the struggle

2056
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:35,920
Speaker 1: right now. The Maukey Bucks with the blowout victory of

2057
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:38,479
Speaker 1: the Padres, Christian yell At a home run. Rowdy Telez

2058
01:44:38,520 --> 01:44:40,640
Speaker 1: had a couple of long balls as well. Twins with

2059
01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:42,920
Speaker 1: the victory over the Yankees, Braves and Red Sox with

2060
01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:45,479
Speaker 1: wins as well in the Toronto Blue Jays, a six

2061
01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:48,880
Speaker 1: to three victory over the previously unbeaten Tampa Bay Rays,

2062
01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:51,880
Speaker 1: who are now thirteen and one on the season. Back

2063
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:52,680
Speaker 1: to the Fellas.

2064
01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:55,519
Speaker 2: You know what's funny. I love that Rowdy Teles. I

2065
01:44:55,560 --> 01:44:58,439
Speaker 2: love his name, Rowdy Dowdy. Yeah, great name it is.

2066
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:02,439
Speaker 2: It's a old time that's right, The Fellas a rowdy

2067
01:45:03,120 --> 01:45:07,920
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2072
01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:34,320
Speaker 2: Let's keep going NBA Playoffs. So we went through today's games,

2073
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:36,000
Speaker 2: and don't forget the big brain we'll take a look

2074
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:40,439
Speaker 2: at the NBA playoffs from a betting standpoint next hour.

2075
01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:42,840
Speaker 2: So you want to be keep it right here for

2076
01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:45,800
Speaker 2: that you get some good picks and winners. So let's

2077
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:48,920
Speaker 2: look at Sunday, and nobody knows the Lakers like Figgie.

2078
01:45:49,240 --> 01:45:55,320
Speaker 2: So tomorrow Memphis and the Lakers. And this is a

2079
01:45:55,439 --> 01:45:59,439
Speaker 2: series where I can't tell who's got the advantage with

2080
01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:02,439
Speaker 2: the match. I'll be honest you. I look at it

2081
01:46:02,479 --> 01:46:05,680
Speaker 2: and it looks, you know, like I'm reading Greek. I

2082
01:46:05,720 --> 01:46:08,799
Speaker 2: can't I can't see it.

2083
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:11,760
Speaker 1: It is a tough read because you think that look,

2084
01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:14,200
Speaker 1: if all things were equal and both teams are fully healthy,

2085
01:46:14,479 --> 01:46:17,679
Speaker 1: I think I would like Memphis more than I actually do.

2086
01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:20,360
Speaker 1: And that's just because of the paint advantage that the

2087
01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:22,960
Speaker 1: Lakers have. You know, Lebron's going to attack the paint,

2088
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:25,120
Speaker 1: although he's attacking a lot less now he's turned into

2089
01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:27,680
Speaker 1: more of a jump shooter as he's been, you know,

2090
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:30,880
Speaker 1: gotten a little bit older. But Anthony Davis relentlessly attacks

2091
01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:34,839
Speaker 1: the paint. And not having Brandon Clark, not having Steven

2092
01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:37,479
Speaker 1: Adams even more so one of the better interior defenders

2093
01:46:37,479 --> 01:46:39,240
Speaker 1: in the league is going to be a big loss.

2094
01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:40,640
Speaker 1: And I know they have the defensive player of the

2095
01:46:40,720 --> 01:46:43,680
Speaker 1: year or the likely defensive player of the year and

2096
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:46,920
Speaker 1: Jaren Jackson, but it's a tall order, especially if Anthony

2097
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:48,400
Speaker 1: Davis is going to play the way that he has

2098
01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:51,080
Speaker 1: played the last month of the season. Subtract the last

2099
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:52,920
Speaker 1: week of the regular season where he kind of slowed

2100
01:46:52,920 --> 01:46:54,559
Speaker 1: down a little bit, but for the last month leading

2101
01:46:54,600 --> 01:46:58,160
Speaker 1: up to it, he was spectacular. Could be tough sledding now.

2102
01:46:58,160 --> 01:47:00,840
Speaker 1: But on the other side, I mean, the Lakers don't

2103
01:47:00,840 --> 01:47:02,840
Speaker 1: have anybody on the perimeter that can keep up with

2104
01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:05,000
Speaker 1: John Morant, you know, I mean the way that he

2105
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:06,559
Speaker 1: can attack the paint. I mean there was a game

2106
01:47:06,800 --> 01:47:10,240
Speaker 1: where they de Angelo is not a good defense slow

2107
01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:12,760
Speaker 1: a foot, yeah, absolutely a slower foot, and they really

2108
01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:15,559
Speaker 1: have no other person on the perimeter that they can

2109
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:18,040
Speaker 1: really stick on him. I mean, Jared Vanderbilt is probably

2110
01:47:18,040 --> 01:47:21,200
Speaker 1: their best defender, but he's not going to stay in

2111
01:47:21,200 --> 01:47:21,880
Speaker 1: front of a guard.

2112
01:47:22,280 --> 01:47:22,960
Speaker 2: You wouldn't think.

2113
01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:25,160
Speaker 1: And maybe they'll have some spot minutes where they'll put

2114
01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:27,639
Speaker 1: him on on John Morant, but not for any extended

2115
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:30,720
Speaker 1: period of time. I wouldn't think. And look, look, we

2116
01:47:30,760 --> 01:47:32,639
Speaker 1: know Dylan Brooks can score some points and he's tough

2117
01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:34,479
Speaker 1: and he'll get under your skin. And he said that,

2118
01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:36,479
Speaker 1: he said he wanted the Lakers, he wants to knock

2119
01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:39,439
Speaker 1: him out, so he'll have his chance. But yeah, this

2120
01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:42,240
Speaker 1: is gonna be a tough go because I believe I

2121
01:47:42,360 --> 01:47:44,600
Speaker 1: mentioned this earlier in the show. These teams have not

2122
01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:47,240
Speaker 1: faced each other at full strength all season long, so

2123
01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:50,800
Speaker 1: every game somebody of importance was out, whether it was

2124
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:54,400
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, Lebron James, or John Morant. So well, we're

2125
01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:56,400
Speaker 1: going to really get a really Look. You can even argue, look,

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01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:57,840
Speaker 1: Memphis is not going to be a full strength Not

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01:47:57,840 --> 01:48:00,240
Speaker 1: having Steven Adams, I think is a huge loss, even

2128
01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:02,280
Speaker 1: more so than I have having Clark in there. So

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01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:04,120
Speaker 1: this is one of those series that I can see

2130
01:48:04,200 --> 01:48:07,280
Speaker 1: kind of going either way. I think the Lakers winning six,

2131
01:48:07,760 --> 01:48:09,600
Speaker 1: but I look, I wouldn't be surprised if Memphis won

2132
01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:10,040
Speaker 1: and five.

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01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:15,719
Speaker 2: It all just depends on the temple of the season. Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude,

2134
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:19,400
Speaker 2: I hear you. I just had that same vibe. Now,

2135
01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:22,000
Speaker 2: I like what Reeves has brought to that team.

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01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:24,760
Speaker 1: Oh, he's been a godsend for them, He really has been,

2137
01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:28,360
Speaker 1: because that trade was great, because it just now just

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01:48:28,439 --> 01:48:31,320
Speaker 1: fits well. They have peace so much better. Yeah, they

2139
01:48:31,320 --> 01:48:33,439
Speaker 1: have pieces that fit. They have an NBA roster, they

2140
01:48:33,479 --> 01:48:36,160
Speaker 1: have guys that can make open shots. You have you know,

2141
01:48:36,360 --> 01:48:38,479
Speaker 1: they have Laite Beasleek's minutes can kind of you know,

2142
01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:40,360
Speaker 1: struggle here and there, and he could be streaky, but

2143
01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:42,720
Speaker 1: at least he's a threat from three point range. I mean,

2144
01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:44,679
Speaker 1: the guy, the guys who are just leaving Russell Westbrook

2145
01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:46,559
Speaker 1: wide open left and right, they didn't even defend him.

2146
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:48,800
Speaker 1: You have guys who at least have to respect from

2147
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:50,840
Speaker 1: beyond the three point line. D'Angelo Russell is a good

2148
01:48:50,840 --> 01:48:53,160
Speaker 1: three point shooter. So they they just have more of

2149
01:48:53,200 --> 01:48:57,360
Speaker 1: a modern twenty twenty three NBA roster in front of them,

2150
01:48:57,680 --> 01:49:01,120
Speaker 1: and that's part a major reason why they've been they've

2151
01:49:01,120 --> 01:49:03,160
Speaker 1: had the best record in the resting Conference after the

2152
01:49:03,200 --> 01:49:07,519
Speaker 1: All Star break because they've had Anthony Davis back healthy

2153
01:49:07,560 --> 01:49:09,439
Speaker 1: for the most part. Lebron James missed him time, but

2154
01:49:09,479 --> 01:49:11,519
Speaker 1: he's been backing the lineup, and Austin Reeves has been

2155
01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:14,000
Speaker 1: I don't know the exact numbers, but he's got to

2156
01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:15,760
Speaker 1: be in the top five of free throw attempts of

2157
01:49:15,800 --> 01:49:18,439
Speaker 1: everybody in the league over the last month and a half.

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01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:21,200
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's been, like I said, he's been

2159
01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:24,160
Speaker 1: a godsend for them, absolutely amazing. Twenty point games, thirty

2160
01:49:24,200 --> 01:49:27,439
Speaker 1: point games, you know, shooting fifteen sixteen free throws at

2161
01:49:27,439 --> 01:49:30,840
Speaker 1: certain points. He's he's a major X factor for them

2162
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:33,519
Speaker 1: in the series for sure, because as important as it

2163
01:49:33,560 --> 01:49:36,280
Speaker 1: is for Anthony Davis and Lebron James attacking the peyton

2164
01:49:36,280 --> 01:49:38,519
Speaker 1: getting too the line, Austin Reeves has been just as

2165
01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:40,280
Speaker 1: good and just as effective at doing that too.

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01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:44,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, it's pretty amazing. I gotta tell you, I'll

2167
01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:47,760
Speaker 2: be honest with you. I was. I thought, you know what, man,

2168
01:49:47,800 --> 01:49:52,559
Speaker 2: that trade it just made so much sense, so much,

2169
01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:55,880
Speaker 2: I really did. Because now again we took about fit,

2170
01:49:56,280 --> 01:50:00,720
Speaker 2: and in basketball, fit is everything, man, it really is.

2171
01:50:01,120 --> 01:50:04,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, unless you have the square peg round hole usually

2172
01:50:04,680 --> 01:50:07,360
Speaker 1: only works if you have two or three guys who

2173
01:50:07,400 --> 01:50:10,719
Speaker 1: are just so transcendently better than everybody else, like Lebron

2174
01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:12,760
Speaker 1: and d Wade when they were in their primes and

2175
01:50:12,760 --> 01:50:14,800
Speaker 1: they teamed up and it's like, yeah, it's an awkward fit,

2176
01:50:15,120 --> 01:50:17,840
Speaker 1: but they're so great it doesn't matter. I Mean, most

2177
01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:19,679
Speaker 1: of the time, that's not going to work itself out.

2178
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:23,599
Speaker 1: When you have an aging Lebron, an aging Westbrook, Anthony

2179
01:50:23,680 --> 01:50:25,559
Speaker 1: Davis who's you know, twenty eight, but might as well

2180
01:50:25,600 --> 01:50:27,920
Speaker 1: be forty eight with his body. You know, that's just

2181
01:50:28,040 --> 01:50:30,160
Speaker 1: not a good fit. So now that you have all

2182
01:50:30,160 --> 01:50:32,400
Speaker 1: the pieces that actually fit together, you have a banger

2183
01:50:32,479 --> 01:50:34,840
Speaker 1: and nad, You have Lebron that can do a little

2184
01:50:34,840 --> 01:50:37,479
Speaker 1: bit of everything. D Ruskin can distribute and can shoot,

2185
01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:40,120
Speaker 1: Beasley can shoot. You know, it just changes the entire

2186
01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:42,439
Speaker 1: dynamic of the roster and they can beat you in

2187
01:50:42,520 --> 01:50:44,920
Speaker 1: multiple different ways. And they've been one of the best

2188
01:50:44,960 --> 01:50:47,040
Speaker 1: defensive teams in the NBA the last couple of months

2189
01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:49,439
Speaker 1: of the season, which is really the biggest key to

2190
01:50:49,479 --> 01:50:52,000
Speaker 1: their turnaround, more so than even their outside shooting.

2191
01:50:52,479 --> 01:50:55,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's the truth. Hey what do you think

2192
01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:59,240
Speaker 2: of I'm just curious Darvin Ham.

2193
01:50:59,720 --> 01:51:03,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been okay. I haven't noticed any coaching glaring,

2194
01:51:03,160 --> 01:51:06,679
Speaker 1: coaching mishaps. I'll put it this way. I don't think

2195
01:51:06,680 --> 01:51:09,080
Speaker 1: if Frank Vogel was still the coach much would be different.

2196
01:51:09,640 --> 01:51:13,160
Speaker 1: Got so take that for whatever that means. I think

2197
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:15,559
Speaker 1: Frank got a raw deal because he had the Russell

2198
01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:18,200
Speaker 1: Westbrook thing thrown in his lap, you know, a year

2199
01:51:18,200 --> 01:51:20,479
Speaker 1: and two years after he won the championship in the bubble,

2200
01:51:21,160 --> 01:51:23,519
Speaker 1: and I didn't think that was necessarily fair for him

2201
01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:25,320
Speaker 1: to have to be the fall guy in that situation.

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01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:28,120
Speaker 1: Uh So, I think if Frank Vogel will still the

2203
01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:30,160
Speaker 1: head coach, I think you'd probably probably be in the

2204
01:51:30,160 --> 01:51:32,320
Speaker 1: exact same situation, the same spot they're in now.

2205
01:51:33,320 --> 01:51:37,200
Speaker 2: All Right, So then after the Lakers and Grizzlies tomorrow

2206
01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:41,400
Speaker 2: at three five point thirty, you come in with a

2207
01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:48,800
Speaker 2: little box heat, and the heat the eighth seed suddenly

2208
01:51:49,040 --> 01:51:53,880
Speaker 2: get Milwaukee. Now Milwaukee, I'd be Bucks fans probably like,

2209
01:51:53,920 --> 01:51:57,000
Speaker 2: are you kidding me? The one team that is just

2210
01:51:57,240 --> 01:52:03,559
Speaker 2: pesky and that's just a buzzy fly that gives Milwaukee issues,

2211
01:52:04,040 --> 01:52:04,920
Speaker 2: it's Miami.

2212
01:52:06,280 --> 01:52:08,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, And look, I think we are in agreement that

2213
01:52:08,479 --> 01:52:10,920
Speaker 1: we don't think Miami's gonna win the series, but I

2214
01:52:10,960 --> 01:52:13,439
Speaker 1: think it's gonna make Milwaukee work a little harder than

2215
01:52:13,439 --> 01:52:16,599
Speaker 1: a one seed typically think it would have to versus

2216
01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:19,759
Speaker 1: an eight seed. So I can see this going six,

2217
01:52:19,840 --> 01:52:21,880
Speaker 1: and I can see every single game being nip and tuck,

2218
01:52:21,920 --> 01:52:23,439
Speaker 1: because that's just how Look.

2219
01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:24,120
Speaker 2: Look, the heat that have.

2220
01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:26,320
Speaker 1: Been more inconsistent this year than they have been in

2221
01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:30,040
Speaker 1: years past, but they're still a tough out. That's still

2222
01:52:30,040 --> 01:52:33,160
Speaker 1: a team that's built in pat Riley's image. With Eric

2223
01:52:33,160 --> 01:52:35,800
Speaker 1: Sposter in the mix. You know, Jimmy Buckets is tough.

2224
01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:38,559
Speaker 1: So you know, bam Outebaiyo had a big I had

2225
01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 1: a big night on the boards and defensively on Friday night.

2226
01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:43,960
Speaker 1: So they're going to make Milwaukee earn every inch of

2227
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:45,519
Speaker 1: it in the first round. So that if I was

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01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:48,680
Speaker 1: a Bucks fan, I wouldn't be scared, but I'd say, ugh,

2229
01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:51,240
Speaker 1: we really have to play these guys? Do we really

2230
01:52:51,240 --> 01:52:54,320
Speaker 1: have to play? You know, you know, five six games

2231
01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:57,559
Speaker 1: as opposed to four, you know what I mean. So

2232
01:52:57,600 --> 01:53:00,280
Speaker 1: that's that's the big frustration for the well the books

2233
01:53:00,280 --> 01:53:02,240
Speaker 1: who have had some injury issues. Chris Middleton's me in

2234
01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:05,320
Speaker 1: and out this year, Holliday's had some issues, Giannis has

2235
01:53:05,320 --> 01:53:07,280
Speaker 1: had some issues. You want to have as quick of

2236
01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:09,600
Speaker 1: a series as you possibly can for it seemed like

2237
01:53:09,680 --> 01:53:12,640
Speaker 1: Milwaukee and unfortunately for them, I don't think that's in

2238
01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:12,960
Speaker 1: the car.

2239
01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:16,880
Speaker 2: It's playing Miami. Yeah no, and I feel you we

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01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:21,160
Speaker 2: are an agreement, like I do think Milwaukee, you know, survives,

2241
01:53:21,240 --> 01:53:24,800
Speaker 2: but when you tax a team, you know what kind

2242
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:28,400
Speaker 2: of wounds are they bringing into the next round. And

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01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:32,120
Speaker 2: that's I think the biggest thing, because you know you're

2244
01:53:32,120 --> 01:53:33,960
Speaker 2: gonna you're gonna have You'll get a little bit of

2245
01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:35,720
Speaker 2: a break in the second round, but you're gonna be

2246
01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:40,040
Speaker 2: you know, Nick's Cavaliers after going through the heat, and

2247
01:53:40,040 --> 01:53:42,720
Speaker 2: then that'll tax your further when you get to the

2248
01:53:42,720 --> 01:53:46,120
Speaker 2: conference finals, have to play Boston in Philadelphia. Yeah, so

2249
01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:49,240
Speaker 2: you know that. I think that's the long term worry

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01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:52,960
Speaker 2: with Milwaukee. We'll take a quick tee, we'll come right

2251
01:53:53,000 --> 01:53:59,840
Speaker 2: back as we hang on a NBA playoff Saturday with

2252
01:54:00,280 --> 01:54:11,920
Speaker 2: Fellas right here on Fox Sports Radio. Fellas on a

2253
01:54:12,160 --> 01:54:18,320
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday from the ti raq dot com studios. Hey,

2254
01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:21,880
Speaker 2: let's go back to our mock draft we were doing

2255
01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:25,160
Speaker 2: with the thirty third team and we made it through

2256
01:54:25,200 --> 01:54:30,200
Speaker 2: the top first five, left off Seattle taking Jalen Carter

2257
01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:33,840
Speaker 2: fig Let's keep going here. Now that you have the

2258
01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:39,280
Speaker 2: Lions all right from the Rams. Now, could you imagine

2259
01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:45,360
Speaker 2: if the Lions take Will Anderson and then you have

2260
01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:50,920
Speaker 2: Will Anderson and Aiden Hodginson on on off the edges.

2261
01:54:52,280 --> 01:54:54,920
Speaker 1: Not a bad uh, not a bad foundation for your

2262
01:54:54,920 --> 01:54:59,320
Speaker 1: defensive front there, Huh? Although again, and I mentioned this

2263
01:54:59,400 --> 01:55:02,160
Speaker 1: last week, I'm hearing more and more about the people

2264
01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:04,960
Speaker 1: are not as keen on will Anderson as uh as

2265
01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:08,800
Speaker 1: they were as last year. Little stiff maybe more of

2266
01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:12,080
Speaker 1: a power rusher than a speed guy. Not necessarily a

2267
01:55:12,120 --> 01:55:16,200
Speaker 1: sub package guy, but I mean not necessarily a disruptor

2268
01:55:17,120 --> 01:55:19,800
Speaker 1: like you would think, because I mean this guy was talking.

2269
01:55:19,840 --> 01:55:21,400
Speaker 1: People were talking about him being like the you know,

2270
01:55:21,440 --> 01:55:23,160
Speaker 1: top overall pick in the draft if he was able

2271
01:55:23,200 --> 01:55:26,680
Speaker 1: to come out last year. And I just I've heard

2272
01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:28,560
Speaker 1: that he's kind of sliding down a little bit because

2273
01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:31,840
Speaker 1: he's just not as not as explosive, not as quick

2274
01:55:31,880 --> 01:55:34,960
Speaker 1: as people anticipated. Still a good player, but not a

2275
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:35,600
Speaker 1: great player.

2276
01:55:36,400 --> 01:55:39,000
Speaker 2: Although you know, you catch him like, he reminds me

2277
01:55:39,120 --> 01:55:41,560
Speaker 2: the type of guy that if you get him on

2278
01:55:41,640 --> 01:55:44,400
Speaker 2: a match up, he may get shut down. And I

2279
01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:46,680
Speaker 2: guess that this was the scattering report I saw too,

2280
01:55:47,200 --> 01:55:49,680
Speaker 2: that against really good tackles they could shut him down.

2281
01:55:49,760 --> 01:55:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Tennessee tackle who's moving up boards. I guess

2282
01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:54,160
Speaker 1: they said he did nothing against him that entire game

2283
01:55:54,200 --> 01:55:57,360
Speaker 1: against Tennessee. So against the best, against his best competition,

2284
01:55:57,680 --> 01:55:59,960
Speaker 1: he didn't really show out well.

2285
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:02,960
Speaker 2: And when you have it, when you're when you're up

2286
01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:05,600
Speaker 2: against a guy that you can handle. You know, there's

2287
01:56:05,600 --> 01:56:08,640
Speaker 2: a lot of those guys in the league, you know,

2288
01:56:08,760 --> 01:56:13,160
Speaker 2: not everyone is Orlando pace right, you know, or thinking

2289
01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:17,680
Speaker 2: Kennedy and uh, you know, you get you get it,

2290
01:56:17,680 --> 01:56:20,360
Speaker 2: you get Willis off the edge with opposite eight not sit.

2291
01:56:20,440 --> 01:56:23,640
Speaker 2: I'd take that too, man, give it me because he

2292
01:56:23,640 --> 01:56:25,560
Speaker 2: he could have one of those games, like he reminds

2293
01:56:25,560 --> 01:56:28,240
Speaker 2: me of the guy that can you would go three four.

2294
01:56:28,640 --> 01:56:30,560
Speaker 2: You're like, you can get a three four sack day

2295
01:56:30,560 --> 01:56:33,120
Speaker 2: out of them when he gots the right matchup. True.

2296
01:56:33,320 --> 01:56:35,040
Speaker 1: No, on the issue is can you can get a

2297
01:56:35,040 --> 01:56:37,000
Speaker 1: three four sack day when he has the right matchup?

2298
01:56:37,000 --> 01:56:38,880
Speaker 1: But then you can probably go a three with three

2299
01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:41,320
Speaker 1: weeks with you know nothing or a half sack.

2300
01:56:41,640 --> 01:56:41,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2301
01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:44,480
Speaker 1: So I wonder if you're Detroit, would you rather go

2302
01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:46,960
Speaker 1: after one of those corners like a Joey Porter.

2303
01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:51,720
Speaker 2: Christian Gonzalez who anybody loves and raves about.

2304
01:56:51,720 --> 01:56:54,680
Speaker 1: Or the Witherspoon kid who people love out of Illinois.

2305
01:56:55,000 --> 01:56:57,360
Speaker 1: So I feel like cornerback is probably a spot where

2306
01:56:57,360 --> 01:57:00,560
Speaker 1: Detroit can can seek to improve too. They just traded away,

2307
01:57:01,040 --> 01:57:01,840
Speaker 1: so you know.

2308
01:57:02,680 --> 01:57:04,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, with a coupda going and it's a great point.

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01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:07,720
Speaker 2: And now they have shocked because they have they have

2310
01:57:07,920 --> 01:57:10,320
Speaker 2: the lines going Will Anderson, but with a Kuda going.

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01:57:10,440 --> 01:57:14,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I don't know it just the

2312
01:57:14,120 --> 01:57:16,080
Speaker 2: first thing I thought about was Christian Gonzales.

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01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:20,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, absolutely, so that that's kind of where

2314
01:57:20,080 --> 01:57:22,640
Speaker 1: I would lean towards if I were them. Yeah, I agree,

2315
01:57:23,320 --> 01:57:25,480
Speaker 1: But look, well Anderson, look at Will Anderson is not

2316
01:57:25,520 --> 01:57:26,640
Speaker 1: a bad player whatsoever.

2317
01:57:27,720 --> 01:57:29,960
Speaker 2: Somebody else told me that Will Anderson won't even be

2318
01:57:30,000 --> 01:57:34,920
Speaker 2: the first edge rusher taken, that it will be Tyree Wilson. Yeah,

2319
01:57:35,000 --> 01:57:36,440
Speaker 2: people love him, taxes tech.

2320
01:57:37,600 --> 01:57:40,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's kind of where the talk is right now.

2321
01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:47,760
Speaker 2: And they have the Falcons taking Tyree Wilson at number eight.

2322
01:57:47,800 --> 01:57:52,920
Speaker 2: They have the Bears taking Paris Johnson, which makes a

2323
01:57:52,920 --> 01:57:56,480
Speaker 2: lot of sense to tackle from Ohio State. Yep.

2324
01:57:57,480 --> 01:58:02,320
Speaker 1: Get some more protection out there for fields, and I'm

2325
01:58:02,400 --> 01:58:04,240
Speaker 1: a little so I guess I would have gone, maybe

2326
01:58:04,640 --> 01:58:08,360
Speaker 1: even get another receiver. This year for me is lining

2327
01:58:08,400 --> 01:58:11,080
Speaker 1: everything up for justin fields as possibly as good as

2328
01:58:11,120 --> 01:58:14,360
Speaker 1: I possibly can like so he has there's no excuses

2329
01:58:14,680 --> 01:58:17,600
Speaker 1: for him not to be able to produce. So we'll

2330
01:58:17,600 --> 01:58:20,240
Speaker 1: get you some weapons on the outside. We traded you,

2331
01:58:20,280 --> 01:58:23,560
Speaker 1: we traded for you know, a number one from Carolina.

2332
01:58:23,720 --> 01:58:26,680
Speaker 1: Like we're brink. We're going all hands on deck, all

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Speaker 1: in on offense, to make sure that you have the

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Speaker 1: best possible weapons around you. And if you don't get

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01:58:30,480 --> 01:58:32,240
Speaker 1: it done this year, then it's time.

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Speaker 2: To move on. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.

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01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:38,920
Speaker 1: So Paris Johnson from that standpoint will certainly make a

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01:58:38,920 --> 01:58:39,680
Speaker 1: lot of sense to me.

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01:58:41,120 --> 01:58:46,600
Speaker 2: Pretty interesting. They have the Eagles at ten taking at

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01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:52,000
Speaker 2: Peter Skornski, the guard from Northwestern. Now they do need

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01:58:52,040 --> 01:58:57,240
Speaker 2: a guard. It's pretty high. I agree with you. I'm

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01:58:57,320 --> 01:58:59,839
Speaker 2: telling you that will not happen.

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01:59:00,120 --> 01:59:00,840
Speaker 1: It seems odd.

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01:59:01,040 --> 01:59:01,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.

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01:59:01,640 --> 01:59:04,400
Speaker 1: Look, and I know they love how he loves building

2346
01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:06,760
Speaker 1: the lines and all that, but I think you can

2347
01:59:06,840 --> 01:59:09,040
Speaker 1: find better value than taking a guard in the top ten.

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01:59:09,520 --> 01:59:13,600
Speaker 2: I'm completely with you. And that's not how he's an

2349
01:59:13,760 --> 01:59:17,839
Speaker 2: m O. Howie Roseman, the GM of the Eagles. I wouldn't.

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01:59:18,360 --> 01:59:21,280
Speaker 2: He doesn't. He's not taking the guard there. I can't.

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01:59:21,320 --> 01:59:25,200
Speaker 2: I don't say it. I think he trades upper back,

2352
01:59:25,680 --> 01:59:26,240
Speaker 2: up or back.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so if we're going up, I know back. We

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01:59:29,160 --> 01:59:32,600
Speaker 1: discussed Bijon Robinson in the past, but up. If we're

2355
01:59:32,600 --> 01:59:34,200
Speaker 1: trading up, who are we trading up for?

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01:59:35,120 --> 01:59:37,840
Speaker 2: I think, Tyree Jackson, I think you get a guy.

2357
01:59:38,480 --> 01:59:40,800
Speaker 2: They need an edge guy. They need a nice young

2358
01:59:40,920 --> 01:59:42,640
Speaker 2: edge guy. So, Tyree Wilson, you.

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01:59:42,600 --> 01:59:44,760
Speaker 1: Think Jalen Carter, possibly because I know there was talk

2360
01:59:44,800 --> 01:59:46,400
Speaker 1: of you if they fell to them at ten.

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Speaker 2: I got news for you. If now, in this ma

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01:59:50,400 --> 01:59:54,120
Speaker 2: Carter goes five, four or five wherever we am, and

2363
01:59:55,560 --> 02:00:02,440
Speaker 2: if he slides, then, for damn sure, for damn sure,

2364
02:00:03,000 --> 02:00:04,760
Speaker 2: he moves up a spot or two.

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Speaker 1: So if he gets past, if he gets past five

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02:00:07,360 --> 02:00:09,320
Speaker 1: to six, you can see how he moving up to seven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that. Yeah, I could see that

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02:00:11,720 --> 02:00:14,480
Speaker 2: makes sense. And the edge guy too. We're the fellas

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Speaker 2: right here on Fox Sports Radio. All right, welcome back,

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Speaker 2: all the games, and here is your schedule. And by

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Speaker 2: our sound engineer, and Patrick as our fine producer, Patrick

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Speaker 2: slumming it with the fellas. Y Yeah, I go you good. Patrick,

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Speaker 2: it's my boy. We're gonna be uh. We got this schedule.

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Speaker 2: You ready, one o'clock six Ers, Nicks, Sixers nets figure.

2386
02:01:41,120 --> 02:01:45,800
Speaker 2: We both believe that this should be a fairly easy

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Speaker 2: series for the Sixers.

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Speaker 1: Breaking out the broom. Don't even eat the dustpan, just

2389
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Speaker 1: sweep right out the door.

2390
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Speaker 2: So years and years ago, when long before other people

2391
02:01:57,160 --> 02:02:00,280
Speaker 2: were listening, I was a child, a kid, a big

2392
02:02:00,320 --> 02:02:05,040
Speaker 2: Sixers fan growing up. And the year after they win

2393
02:02:05,120 --> 02:02:09,680
Speaker 2: the title, the year was nineteen eighty four.

2394
02:02:09,800 --> 02:02:11,880
Speaker 1: Okay, this is the year they beat the Lakers.

2395
02:02:12,880 --> 02:02:15,840
Speaker 2: No, the eighty three they beat the Lakers to win

2396
02:02:15,880 --> 02:02:20,280
Speaker 2: the title. Okay. The year after was eighty four, the

2397
02:02:20,360 --> 02:02:24,400
Speaker 2: defending champion Sixers coming to the playoffs, and then very

2398
02:02:24,640 --> 02:02:33,800
Speaker 2: Orwellian series against the New Jersey Nets. The Sixers had

2399
02:02:33,880 --> 02:02:39,280
Speaker 2: been for some reason toying with their opponents. They would

2400
02:02:39,960 --> 02:02:43,320
Speaker 2: get in these big deficits and then roar back and

2401
02:02:43,400 --> 02:02:47,600
Speaker 2: win games. They were at Moses Malone, Andrew, Tony Julius, Irving,

2402
02:02:47,640 --> 02:02:50,960
Speaker 2: Maurice Cheeks, a young Charles Barkley. I mean they were

2403
02:02:51,120 --> 02:02:54,840
Speaker 2: just stacked right. And then they played the Nets, the

2404
02:02:54,880 --> 02:02:59,360
Speaker 2: New Jersey Nets, Otis bird Song, Albert King, I mean,

2405
02:02:59,480 --> 02:03:03,480
Speaker 2: this kind of team, Michael Ray Richardson. And they lost

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02:03:03,480 --> 02:03:06,320
Speaker 2: the first two games. It was the best of five.

2407
02:03:06,440 --> 02:03:09,640
Speaker 2: Back then they then come back, they win the next

2408
02:03:09,640 --> 02:03:13,280
Speaker 2: two games. It's series tied to too. The fifth game,

2409
02:03:13,320 --> 02:03:20,680
Speaker 2: five's at home in Philadelphia. Doctor J earlier that day said,

2410
02:03:21,200 --> 02:03:25,840
Speaker 2: mail in the stats. That was his quote of the

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02:03:26,000 --> 02:03:30,120
Speaker 2: night before for the for the decisive game five, mail

2412
02:03:30,200 --> 02:03:36,800
Speaker 2: in the stats. And they lost. Wow, they lost. So

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02:03:37,200 --> 02:03:40,160
Speaker 2: when you say break out the broom, I say yes,

2414
02:03:40,280 --> 02:03:44,560
Speaker 2: but I say that with all kinds of trepidation.

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02:03:45,360 --> 02:03:47,440
Speaker 1: Well, you know, maybe Doc will throw that in the

2416
02:03:47,440 --> 02:03:49,880
Speaker 1: film session and say, hey, look, these guys got a

2417
02:03:49,920 --> 02:03:52,320
Speaker 1: little bit of cocky. Can't feel your own notes Like

2418
02:03:52,360 --> 02:03:54,920
Speaker 1: it's easy for us media types and talking heads to say,

2419
02:03:54,920 --> 02:03:57,720
Speaker 1: oh easy, sweet, players that gotta go out there and play.

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02:04:00,120 --> 02:04:03,800
Speaker 1: So let's put it this way. They should, they should sweep,

2421
02:04:03,840 --> 02:04:07,480
Speaker 1: they should dominate. Should gentlemen sweep at worst? Yes, If not,

2422
02:04:07,560 --> 02:04:09,920
Speaker 1: it'll be an epic fail and a giant disaster. And

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02:04:09,920 --> 02:04:11,080
Speaker 1: I don't think that's hyperbole.

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02:04:11,560 --> 02:04:20,480
Speaker 2: Yes, agreed, Celtics, the defending Eastern Conference champions against the Hawks.

2425
02:04:20,600 --> 02:04:24,000
Speaker 2: We both think the same thing should not be a

2426
02:04:24,080 --> 02:04:28,440
Speaker 2: bunch of attacks on Boston Celtics. And why five?

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02:04:28,640 --> 02:04:31,520
Speaker 1: I say five? I think I think Atlanta gets one. Yeah,

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02:04:31,520 --> 02:04:33,560
Speaker 1: maybe get you know, get game three at home, that's

2429
02:04:33,600 --> 02:04:36,560
Speaker 1: typically how these things usually work out, or game four

2430
02:04:36,720 --> 02:04:38,760
Speaker 1: to avoid getting swept.

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02:04:39,200 --> 02:04:44,560
Speaker 2: Agreed. So then you have six o'clock Eastern, three o'clock Pacific,

2432
02:04:44,800 --> 02:04:49,960
Speaker 2: a great, great game, Knicks and Calves with a series

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Speaker 2: that's gonna be I like Cleveland. I think it's this

2434
02:04:53,680 --> 02:04:57,480
Speaker 2: is a potential six to seven game series. I'll take

2435
02:04:57,520 --> 02:04:58,920
Speaker 2: the Calves in seven.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna say Cavs in six. I would say seven.

2437
02:05:03,800 --> 02:05:06,760
Speaker 1: If Julius Randall, we're closer to one hundred percent, but

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02:05:07,480 --> 02:05:10,040
Speaker 1: we just don't know what his status is, and if

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02:05:10,040 --> 02:05:12,240
Speaker 1: he's not, he's not gonna be one hundred percent if

2440
02:05:12,280 --> 02:05:14,240
Speaker 1: he plays. We do know that, So I think that

2441
02:05:14,400 --> 02:05:16,880
Speaker 1: just puts them at a at a pretty big disadvantage.

2442
02:05:17,080 --> 02:05:19,720
Speaker 1: As much as I like the backcourt and the additions

2443
02:05:19,720 --> 02:05:21,360
Speaker 1: they made at the deadline with Josh Hart and a

2444
02:05:21,400 --> 02:05:24,440
Speaker 1: couple of others, but yeah, I think Cleveland's too much

2445
02:05:24,440 --> 02:05:27,200
Speaker 1: for them up front. So I like, I like the

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Speaker 1: Cavaliers and six All right.

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Speaker 2: Uh, then of course the jewel of the game. At night,

2448
02:05:35,480 --> 02:05:37,720
Speaker 2: we talk about it all dell all morning. It's the

2449
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Speaker 2: Kings and Golden State sack Town and Game one is

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Speaker 2: a pick. M what do you like in this series?

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Speaker 1: Well, yo, I like in the series, and it's not

2452
02:05:50,200 --> 02:05:53,120
Speaker 1: the popular pick, but give me the Kings.

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Speaker 2: I love the fact you're going, King, I love it.

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Speaker 1: Give me the young, upstart route Kings all the way,

2455
02:06:00,080 --> 02:06:03,720
Speaker 1: the kids, you know, the old veteran Golden State Warriors.

2456
02:06:03,720 --> 02:06:05,920
Speaker 1: See they can just kind of waltz into the postseason.

2457
02:06:06,480 --> 02:06:06,680
Speaker 2: You know.

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02:06:06,920 --> 02:06:08,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, we weren't good on the road, but we didn't

2459
02:06:08,640 --> 02:06:12,000
Speaker 1: need to be. Draymond Green's talking on his podcast, just

2460
02:06:12,040 --> 02:06:15,160
Speaker 1: did this. King's team ain't playing. They're not playing, and

2461
02:06:15,200 --> 02:06:17,560
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, if they lose, the series is not

2462
02:06:17,600 --> 02:06:19,840
Speaker 1: going to be easy. I think this goes at least

2463
02:06:19,880 --> 02:06:23,240
Speaker 1: six regardless of what we're looking at here. But I

2464
02:06:23,280 --> 02:06:26,400
Speaker 1: think I like Sacramento, I really do.

2465
02:06:28,000 --> 02:06:33,440
Speaker 2: Shack down. That would be an incredible man, that would

2466
02:06:33,440 --> 02:06:36,360
Speaker 2: be awesome. Yeah, I love to see I would love

2467
02:06:36,360 --> 02:06:37,920
Speaker 2: to see Sacramento win that thing.

2468
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Speaker 1: I would too. I think it'd be great knock off.

2469
02:06:41,240 --> 02:06:43,320
Speaker 1: The you kind of have, like the a little bit

2470
02:06:43,360 --> 02:06:45,640
Speaker 1: of the Little Brother context if you're talking about the

2471
02:06:45,680 --> 02:06:51,440
Speaker 1: Northern California vibe, you know. So, Yeah, Mike Brown, former

2472
02:06:51,680 --> 02:06:55,839
Speaker 1: Warriors assistant, giving it to Steve Kerran in his former squad,

2473
02:06:56,120 --> 02:07:00,960
Speaker 1: so their storylines abound. Harrison Barnes was cast cast off

2474
02:07:00,960 --> 02:07:03,480
Speaker 1: for Kevin Durant. I mean, I do it too, but still,

2475
02:07:04,600 --> 02:07:07,600
Speaker 1: you know, there's plenty of storylines to go along with

2476
02:07:07,640 --> 02:07:10,040
Speaker 1: the fact that you have the veteran, battle tested team

2477
02:07:10,080 --> 02:07:13,320
Speaker 1: against the young, upstart UH in Sacramento. So I just

2478
02:07:13,320 --> 02:07:15,920
Speaker 1: think from from a storyland standpoint and just from a

2479
02:07:15,920 --> 02:07:17,720
Speaker 1: matchup standpoint, I think it's gonna be one of the

2480
02:07:17,720 --> 02:07:20,720
Speaker 1: better series to your point, maybe the best series in

2481
02:07:20,760 --> 02:07:21,680
Speaker 1: the in the first round.

2482
02:07:22,440 --> 02:07:25,400
Speaker 2: Per the odds, I just called the odds up the

2483
02:07:25,640 --> 02:07:30,200
Speaker 2: Golden State minus two seventy five, Okay, which is great

2484
02:07:30,240 --> 02:07:33,880
Speaker 2: because there a bit of a public team. Yeah, the Sack,

2485
02:07:34,680 --> 02:07:38,240
Speaker 2: you take Sack plus two to twenty. So oh yeah, absolutely,

2486
02:07:38,320 --> 02:07:42,720
Speaker 2: then double your money. Absolutely do that. Uh. Sixers were

2487
02:07:42,840 --> 02:07:46,360
Speaker 2: nine to one, Celtics ten to one, as you would expect.

2488
02:07:47,000 --> 02:07:51,000
Speaker 2: Cleveland is minus just above two to one. At minus

2489
02:07:51,040 --> 02:07:51,839
Speaker 2: two ten.

2490
02:07:53,120 --> 02:07:55,080
Speaker 1: I figure Cleveland Knicks would have been close to a

2491
02:07:55,080 --> 02:07:55,520
Speaker 1: pick them.

2492
02:07:56,080 --> 02:08:01,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, they go Cleveland mine too ten, So kind

2493
02:08:01,000 --> 02:08:01,800
Speaker 2: of like what we think.

2494
02:08:03,000 --> 02:08:03,120
Speaker 5: Uh.

2495
02:08:03,320 --> 02:08:06,440
Speaker 2: And then of course with the Radel with the Randall injury, Uh,

2496
02:08:07,360 --> 02:08:13,320
Speaker 2: Memphis minus one, the closest odds of all the series,

2497
02:08:14,480 --> 02:08:19,120
Speaker 2: Griz minus one over the Lakers, which is a complete

2498
02:08:19,200 --> 02:08:21,320
Speaker 2: Lakers line. It is, it is.

2499
02:08:21,360 --> 02:08:23,280
Speaker 1: And I think this is also a series that could

2500
02:08:23,280 --> 02:08:26,920
Speaker 1: potentially go seven. I can absolutely see that happening. I

2501
02:08:26,960 --> 02:08:29,200
Speaker 1: say Lakers in six, but I don't say that confidently.

2502
02:08:29,600 --> 02:08:31,680
Speaker 1: This is not Let's put it this way, this is

2503
02:08:31,720 --> 02:08:33,960
Speaker 1: not a series that I will put money on. I'll

2504
02:08:34,000 --> 02:08:37,960
Speaker 1: I'll leave I'll put it like that on either team. Yeah,

2505
02:08:38,000 --> 02:08:40,000
Speaker 1: this is a I hear you, That's where I'm staying

2506
02:08:40,000 --> 02:08:40,640
Speaker 1: away from.

2507
02:08:40,800 --> 02:08:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then a little bit later on Bucks and Heat,

2508
02:08:47,000 --> 02:08:50,360
Speaker 2: Milwaukee is ten to one for this series. Now I

2509
02:08:50,360 --> 02:08:53,160
Speaker 2: get it through the one seed, and you know, Miami's

2510
02:08:53,200 --> 02:08:56,040
Speaker 2: not Miami, but plus six fifty.

2511
02:08:55,880 --> 02:08:59,040
Speaker 1: Just based on those odds, I mean, look, isn't it

2512
02:08:59,120 --> 02:09:01,880
Speaker 1: worth of pizza about? I've wasted twenty five dollars on worse?

2513
02:09:01,960 --> 02:09:04,920
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Why? Why not?

2514
02:09:05,120 --> 02:09:07,440
Speaker 1: That's almost like a ten to one Hey, why not?

2515
02:09:09,440 --> 02:09:12,160
Speaker 1: I mean look wow? I mean, look, we've discussed this

2516
02:09:12,200 --> 02:09:14,680
Speaker 1: a couple of times throughout the show. We think Miami

2517
02:09:14,720 --> 02:09:16,920
Speaker 1: can push them to six. So I always say, if

2518
02:09:16,960 --> 02:09:18,680
Speaker 1: you think somebody can push them by to the six,

2519
02:09:19,200 --> 02:09:21,200
Speaker 1: a ball bounce, Yeah, if a ball bounce is another

2520
02:09:21,200 --> 02:09:23,480
Speaker 1: direction once or twice, why can't it go seven? And

2521
02:09:23,520 --> 02:09:26,880
Speaker 1: if it goes seven, who knows? So if that's the

2522
02:09:26,920 --> 02:09:29,320
Speaker 1: case with ten to one odds, I think I'm all

2523
02:09:29,320 --> 02:09:29,960
Speaker 1: over that one.

2524
02:09:30,360 --> 02:09:37,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right. Phoenix five to one odds

2525
02:09:37,280 --> 02:09:41,800
Speaker 2: their minus five hundred Clippers bring back plus three seventy.

2526
02:09:42,600 --> 02:09:44,960
Speaker 2: I just don't believe the Clippers without Paul George.

2527
02:09:45,160 --> 02:09:47,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, And honestly, even with Paul George, they have just

2528
02:09:47,440 --> 02:09:50,920
Speaker 1: been so inconsistent all season long. If Paul George were

2529
02:09:50,960 --> 02:09:52,840
Speaker 1: in the mix, I would feel I would be a

2530
02:09:52,840 --> 02:09:54,920
Speaker 1: lot more conflicted. Honestly, if he was in the mix,

2531
02:09:54,960 --> 02:09:57,400
Speaker 1: I might even have like a Lakers Grizzlies vibe where

2532
02:09:57,400 --> 02:10:00,000
Speaker 1: I'd stay away from it. But knowing that Paul George

2533
02:10:00,240 --> 02:10:03,040
Speaker 1: just likely out for the entire series, I really don't

2534
02:10:03,040 --> 02:10:05,440
Speaker 1: think the Clippers have much of a shot. So I'm

2535
02:10:05,440 --> 02:10:09,280
Speaker 1: probably talking Phoenix in five here, maybe six if Kawhi

2536
02:10:09,320 --> 02:10:12,000
Speaker 1: has a you know, crazy game and Norman Powell gets

2537
02:10:12,040 --> 02:10:15,400
Speaker 1: hot or something. But I'm really kind of feeling Phoenix

2538
02:10:15,400 --> 02:10:15,760
Speaker 1: in five.

2539
02:10:17,200 --> 02:10:22,080
Speaker 2: All right, I could see that that makes that makes

2540
02:10:22,240 --> 02:10:28,320
Speaker 2: good sense to me. And then then Denver's five to

2541
02:10:28,400 --> 02:10:32,240
Speaker 2: one too over Minnesota, and of course those two teams

2542
02:10:32,280 --> 02:10:33,240
Speaker 2: know each other well.

2543
02:10:34,080 --> 02:10:37,360
Speaker 1: Denver in Minneapolis, yeah, I uh, look at we know

2544
02:10:37,920 --> 02:10:40,560
Speaker 1: Minnesota has a big front line. They can throw a

2545
02:10:40,600 --> 02:10:42,960
Speaker 1: bunch of guys at. The Joker doesn't really seem to

2546
02:10:43,000 --> 02:10:45,640
Speaker 1: matter with him. It might not look esthetically pleasing, but

2547
02:10:46,200 --> 02:10:48,200
Speaker 1: he finds ways to get it done. The big one

2548
02:10:48,200 --> 02:10:50,640
Speaker 1: for me is Jamal Murray, Like if he can be

2549
02:10:50,760 --> 02:10:53,600
Speaker 1: the Jamal Murray from the bubble and be that sort

2550
02:10:53,600 --> 02:10:56,600
Speaker 1: of player, which you know, and we've seen flashes of

2551
02:10:56,680 --> 02:10:58,960
Speaker 1: it this year, you know, coming back his first full

2552
02:10:59,000 --> 02:11:02,680
Speaker 1: season after the tourny, then they're gonna be a problem.

2553
02:11:02,880 --> 02:11:05,520
Speaker 1: Like you know, Jokics might be their best player, but

2554
02:11:05,560 --> 02:11:07,480
Speaker 1: we've talked about all the time in the postseason, you

2555
02:11:07,520 --> 02:11:10,040
Speaker 1: need somebody who can actually be a bucket getter and

2556
02:11:10,080 --> 02:11:12,960
Speaker 1: create shots, and that's something that Jamal Murray can do.

2557
02:11:13,680 --> 02:11:15,760
Speaker 1: So I think he's really the X factor. If he's

2558
02:11:15,800 --> 02:11:17,760
Speaker 1: truly the Jamal Murray that we know he can be,

2559
02:11:18,200 --> 02:11:20,200
Speaker 1: there's really no reason why I think Denver can't make

2560
02:11:20,200 --> 02:11:21,720
Speaker 1: a run to the NBA Finals. I know a lot

2561
02:11:21,720 --> 02:11:24,800
Speaker 1: of people don't like Hilly. I don't like him. Yeah,

2562
02:11:24,800 --> 02:11:26,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't like them. Uh, but I

2563
02:11:27,480 --> 02:11:29,440
Speaker 1: think if Murray puts it together the way that I

2564
02:11:29,480 --> 02:11:31,120
Speaker 1: know that he that we know he can and we've

2565
02:11:31,160 --> 02:11:33,840
Speaker 1: seen him do, there's no reason why they can't.

2566
02:11:35,440 --> 02:11:37,560
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I mean listen. I mean I'm not gonna

2567
02:11:37,640 --> 02:11:40,560
Speaker 2: argue there's no reason why they can't. I just I

2568
02:11:40,640 --> 02:11:43,200
Speaker 2: just don't vibe. I don't feel him.

2569
02:11:43,760 --> 02:11:45,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I there's there's no team, but.

2570
02:11:45,680 --> 02:11:47,320
Speaker 2: They begin you watch him more than I did. I

2571
02:11:47,360 --> 02:11:49,640
Speaker 2: don't like him, so you watch him more than I did.

2572
02:11:49,680 --> 02:11:52,720
Speaker 1: There's no team in the Western Conference that I say, Wow, Damn,

2573
02:11:52,720 --> 02:11:55,080
Speaker 1: Denver really The only team that honestly is a bad

2574
02:11:55,120 --> 02:11:57,880
Speaker 1: matchup for them is the Lakers. I think I think

2575
02:11:57,960 --> 02:12:00,640
Speaker 1: Joki versus Anthony Davis in that front line, and they

2576
02:12:00,640 --> 02:12:03,280
Speaker 1: have no one who can really stick with Lebron James

2577
02:12:03,280 --> 02:12:07,000
Speaker 1: perimeter wise. I think from a matchup standpoint, the Lakers

2578
02:12:07,000 --> 02:12:10,200
Speaker 1: matchup with Denver pretty well. But other than that, there's

2579
02:12:10,240 --> 02:12:12,320
Speaker 1: really nobody else in the Western Conference that I say, well,

2580
02:12:12,480 --> 02:12:15,640
Speaker 1: Denver's gonna have quote unquote their hands full or like,

2581
02:12:15,680 --> 02:12:16,440
Speaker 1: I really don't like.

2582
02:12:16,400 --> 02:12:19,520
Speaker 2: Them in this series. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And even with.

2583
02:12:19,440 --> 02:12:20,880
Speaker 1: The Lakers, I still think they can beat them. Even

2584
02:12:20,880 --> 02:12:22,400
Speaker 1: though I think they'd be a tough matchup, I don't

2585
02:12:22,400 --> 02:12:23,960
Speaker 1: think that they're unbeatable.

2586
02:12:24,640 --> 02:12:27,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I don't know what it is. I

2587
02:12:27,600 --> 02:12:29,320
Speaker 2: just I don't trust that Denver team.

2588
02:12:30,200 --> 02:12:33,240
Speaker 1: Well, it certainly haven't, uh having closed having been good

2589
02:12:33,280 --> 02:12:35,480
Speaker 1: closers the last couple of years, to say the least.

2590
02:12:36,080 --> 02:12:38,120
Speaker 2: And do they play good enough defense for you?

2591
02:12:38,280 --> 02:12:40,480
Speaker 1: They have recently, or at least down the stretch of

2592
02:12:40,520 --> 02:12:43,360
Speaker 1: the regular season, so they they closed the season playing

2593
02:12:43,400 --> 02:12:46,760
Speaker 1: better defensively than they opened. Whether they'll keep that up,

2594
02:12:47,240 --> 02:12:49,120
Speaker 1: we'll see. But I mean, you know, you have a

2595
02:12:49,200 --> 02:12:51,680
Speaker 1: KCP you have an Aaron Gordon. They certainly have the

2596
02:12:51,960 --> 02:12:54,800
Speaker 1: players that can do it. Whether they will do it

2597
02:12:54,840 --> 02:12:57,280
Speaker 1: on a consistent basis, you know, well, you know, remains

2598
02:12:57,280 --> 02:12:57,720
Speaker 1: to be seen.

2599
02:12:58,480 --> 02:13:03,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm dubious, uh just to be to keep.

2600
02:13:03,640 --> 02:13:06,240
Speaker 1: It one on it and I understand. Look, but you're

2601
02:13:06,280 --> 02:13:09,600
Speaker 1: not the only one. So there's a lot of people

2602
02:13:09,920 --> 02:13:12,040
Speaker 1: out there who don't, who don't buy Denver at all.

2603
02:13:12,520 --> 02:13:14,720
Speaker 1: What's then, I wonder where Denver's title odds are. We

2604
02:13:14,800 --> 02:13:17,360
Speaker 1: talked about the first round, but I can't imagine they're

2605
02:13:17,360 --> 02:13:19,120
Speaker 1: titled just the way that they've been talked about by

2606
02:13:19,160 --> 02:13:22,080
Speaker 1: a lot of pundits. I can't imagine that they're Their

2607
02:13:22,080 --> 02:13:23,840
Speaker 1: odds to make it out of the Western Conference are

2608
02:13:23,880 --> 02:13:27,640
Speaker 1: as big as usually a team who's the one seed

2609
02:13:27,640 --> 02:13:28,880
Speaker 1: in a conference would be.

2610
02:13:29,600 --> 02:13:32,640
Speaker 2: Let me let me call that up for you. Since

2611
02:13:32,680 --> 02:13:34,280
Speaker 2: we're discussing odds, and.

2612
02:13:34,320 --> 02:13:36,520
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll uh well, we'll just you'll discuss this

2613
02:13:36,560 --> 02:13:38,960
Speaker 1: with the big brains on Brad coming up next segment.

2614
02:13:38,960 --> 02:13:42,200
Speaker 1: I'll like to get his assessment on that too, and

2615
02:13:42,320 --> 02:13:44,680
Speaker 1: kind of what the what the wise guys are feeling

2616
02:13:44,720 --> 02:13:47,120
Speaker 1: when it comes to really just the Western Conference as

2617
02:13:47,120 --> 02:13:48,840
Speaker 1: a whole, because this we we've discussed before.

2618
02:13:48,920 --> 02:13:54,200
Speaker 2: Come out of the Western Conference. Here's your updated odds. Yeah,

2619
02:13:54,320 --> 02:14:00,080
Speaker 2: so the favorite is Phoenix makes sense plus one eighty.

2620
02:14:00,680 --> 02:14:06,879
Speaker 2: The second favorite is Golden State. Interesting plus three fifty.

2621
02:14:08,320 --> 02:14:13,480
Speaker 2: Then here's your Nuggets plus three eighty, Lakers plus six fifty,

2622
02:14:15,200 --> 02:14:22,400
Speaker 2: Memphis plus seven hundred, Clippers plus twenty to one, shack

2623
02:14:22,520 --> 02:14:28,080
Speaker 2: Town twenty eight to one, Minnesota eighty to one. Wow.

2624
02:14:29,280 --> 02:14:32,160
Speaker 1: I mean those are pretty good odds for uh, for Denver.

2625
02:14:32,760 --> 02:14:34,480
Speaker 1: Actually were the good odds for the Lakers plus six

2626
02:14:34,560 --> 02:14:39,840
Speaker 1: fifty You said, yeah, that's the juicy little that's tempting. Yeah,

2627
02:14:39,960 --> 02:14:40,640
Speaker 1: that's juicy.

2628
02:14:42,160 --> 02:14:48,600
Speaker 2: Here's your Eastern Conference Bucks plus one twenty, Celtics plus

2629
02:14:48,640 --> 02:14:53,320
Speaker 2: one fifty six Ers plus four seventy five. Oh wow. Okay,

2630
02:14:54,480 --> 02:14:59,480
Speaker 2: Cleveland plus is fifteen to one, the Knicks forty five

2631
02:14:59,560 --> 02:15:03,800
Speaker 2: to one, the Heat sixty five to one, the Hawks

2632
02:15:03,840 --> 02:15:06,880
Speaker 2: one hundred to ten to one, and Brooklyn is three

2633
02:15:07,000 --> 02:15:09,360
Speaker 2: hundred to one. Wow.

2634
02:15:10,120 --> 02:15:12,520
Speaker 1: I mean, for you know, plus four seventy five for

2635
02:15:12,560 --> 02:15:14,840
Speaker 1: Philadelphia is pretty enticing too, it is.

2636
02:15:15,240 --> 02:15:16,920
Speaker 2: I mean, you you bring it back close to five

2637
02:15:16,960 --> 02:15:17,280
Speaker 2: to one.

2638
02:15:17,400 --> 02:15:19,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's for a team that could that has that

2639
02:15:21,160 --> 02:15:23,920
Speaker 1: James Harden and the way that Mexican kind of turn

2640
02:15:23,960 --> 02:15:24,120
Speaker 1: it on.

2641
02:15:24,800 --> 02:15:30,200
Speaker 2: Nah, dude, I feel you. I feel the same way. Interesting, Yeah, yeah,

2642
02:15:30,240 --> 02:15:34,160
Speaker 2: anyway you wantn't want to check that out? That's good stuff. Well,

2643
02:15:34,200 --> 02:15:37,760
Speaker 2: we will talk to the big Brain on Brad coming

2644
02:15:37,880 --> 02:15:43,640
Speaker 2: up next, our betting expert or insider or analyst, and

2645
02:15:43,680 --> 02:15:45,760
Speaker 2: then figuring out we'll get back. We'll get back to

2646
02:15:45,800 --> 02:15:49,400
Speaker 2: the mock draft as well. Lots to do with big

2647
02:15:49,440 --> 02:15:53,400
Speaker 2: hour aheads, the NBA playoffs, the draft, baseball, kinds of

2648
02:15:53,440 --> 02:15:57,160
Speaker 2: great sports stuff. We're the fellas. We love this stuff

2649
02:15:57,600 --> 02:16:08,880
Speaker 2: right here on Fox Sports Radio. All right, welcome back,

2650
02:16:09,720 --> 02:16:16,960
Speaker 2: FELLASBA playoffs, great sports time. Man, a couple of weeks inside,

2651
02:16:16,960 --> 02:16:24,600
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks of the draft, baseball raise go down. Interesting.

2652
02:16:24,640 --> 02:16:27,560
Speaker 2: I can't wait to talk to our next guest, who's

2653
02:16:27,640 --> 02:16:30,760
Speaker 2: on top of all the goodies, on top of all

2654
02:16:30,840 --> 02:16:35,200
Speaker 2: the stuff for this weekend's action, of course, is our

2655
02:16:35,320 --> 02:16:41,160
Speaker 2: betting analyst, the big Brain, Brad Feinberg on the on

2656
02:16:41,200 --> 02:16:42,360
Speaker 2: with us right now.

2657
02:16:42,720 --> 02:16:47,320
Speaker 5: Bradley, Good morning, Good morning to you, my friend Harry Anthony,

2658
02:16:47,879 --> 02:16:50,760
Speaker 5: good buddy Gates, good listen, this is our time.

2659
02:16:50,760 --> 02:16:51,959
Speaker 2: It's geek outs.

2660
02:16:52,040 --> 02:16:55,960
Speaker 5: Huh, Dan, Look I've been looking forward to this while

2661
02:16:56,840 --> 02:16:59,920
Speaker 5: like the players are gonna be terrific. I think we

2662
02:17:00,000 --> 02:17:04,280
Speaker 5: really have a Western Conference anthlete that is extremely wide open.

2663
02:17:04,879 --> 02:17:08,840
Speaker 5: And in the East again, I think there's three teams

2664
02:17:08,840 --> 02:17:10,800
Speaker 5: definitely they have a chance, and maybe even a fourth

2665
02:17:10,840 --> 02:17:11,400
Speaker 5: in Cleveland.

2666
02:17:12,560 --> 02:17:15,160
Speaker 2: So we told we were just actually figuring out, were

2667
02:17:15,240 --> 02:17:18,200
Speaker 2: just going over some of the futures and taking a

2668
02:17:18,240 --> 02:17:20,480
Speaker 2: look at this. So let's start with the futures. Then

2669
02:17:20,480 --> 02:17:24,680
Speaker 2: we'll get into the individual series. And uh, it was

2670
02:17:24,760 --> 02:17:29,360
Speaker 2: interesting because to win, let's just go to win the West.

2671
02:17:29,640 --> 02:17:34,360
Speaker 2: To win the West, it was there was a couple

2672
02:17:34,480 --> 02:17:36,880
Speaker 2: interesting ones. So Phoenix to favorite plus one to eighty,

2673
02:17:38,360 --> 02:17:42,640
Speaker 2: Golden State plus three fifty, Denver plus three eighty, the

2674
02:17:42,760 --> 02:17:48,359
Speaker 2: Lakers plus six point fifty. Any you give any Lakers

2675
02:17:48,360 --> 02:17:50,840
Speaker 2: that's a that's a healthy number for the Lakers.

2676
02:17:51,600 --> 02:17:54,000
Speaker 5: Yeah. Look, I do have a Lakers ticket anthy but

2677
02:17:54,080 --> 02:17:57,240
Speaker 5: that price is I haven't at like, I think twenty

2678
02:17:57,280 --> 02:17:58,960
Speaker 5: four to one to win the last something like that,

2679
02:17:59,000 --> 02:18:01,400
Speaker 5: because you've got to be a day ahead, not a

2680
02:18:01,480 --> 02:18:03,039
Speaker 5: day late, to mean I think you're a day late

2681
02:18:03,120 --> 02:18:05,320
Speaker 5: on the number. Because listen, let's look at the Lakers'

2682
02:18:05,320 --> 02:18:08,160
Speaker 5: schedule er, right, they are an underdog geary of me, right,

2683
02:18:08,200 --> 02:18:10,200
Speaker 5: they aren't underdog here at a Memphis about a six

2684
02:18:10,280 --> 02:18:12,600
Speaker 5: to five hunderdog plus a dollar twenty for looking to

2685
02:18:12,640 --> 02:18:14,800
Speaker 5: take the Lakers. And now, if let's say they win

2686
02:18:14,840 --> 02:18:20,280
Speaker 5: this series, then they're going to be facing probably Golden State,

2687
02:18:20,680 --> 02:18:23,800
Speaker 5: which again is another series they would be an underdog in, Okay,

2688
02:18:24,040 --> 02:18:25,960
Speaker 5: and then if they're facing Phoenix, it's gonna be another

2689
02:18:25,959 --> 02:18:27,879
Speaker 5: series they're going to be an underdog in. So if

2690
02:18:27,920 --> 02:18:30,280
Speaker 5: you actually do that quotum mechanical parlay, if then we

2691
02:18:30,480 --> 02:18:34,119
Speaker 5: just take the Lakers in each individual series, okay, you're

2692
02:18:34,160 --> 02:18:36,360
Speaker 5: gonna get more than plus six fifty because if they

2693
02:18:36,400 --> 02:18:39,080
Speaker 5: were just even money in all three, that'd be seven

2694
02:18:39,080 --> 02:18:41,840
Speaker 5: to one. But they're already factory a dog against Memphis.

2695
02:18:42,680 --> 02:18:44,200
Speaker 5: I can't see any way in the world they would

2696
02:18:44,240 --> 02:18:45,960
Speaker 5: not be an underdog at Golden State, and I cannot

2697
02:18:45,959 --> 02:18:47,879
Speaker 5: see anyway in the world they'd not be an underdog competing.

2698
02:18:48,240 --> 02:18:50,840
Speaker 5: So to me, even if they win each of these

2699
02:18:50,840 --> 02:18:53,320
Speaker 5: first two series, which would build their quote unquote respect

2700
02:18:53,400 --> 02:18:55,560
Speaker 5: level off, you're gonna get more than plus six fifty.

2701
02:18:57,360 --> 02:19:01,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's funny. The interesting the can called parlay.

2702
02:19:01,440 --> 02:19:03,400
Speaker 5: Almost always better I'll tell you the times it's not.

2703
02:19:03,720 --> 02:19:06,360
Speaker 5: Let's take an example like Florida Atlantic, if you took

2704
02:19:06,440 --> 02:19:10,039
Speaker 5: them before the region to win the region. I think

2705
02:19:10,120 --> 02:19:12,280
Speaker 5: one of my good friends actually had a three or

2706
02:19:12,320 --> 02:19:15,680
Speaker 5: four thousand dollars forty to one odds okay, had forty

2707
02:19:15,720 --> 02:19:20,200
Speaker 5: to one odds okay, because Perdue lost Producos Purdue lost

2708
02:19:20,440 --> 02:19:23,360
Speaker 5: in round two. When they're doing this, forty to one

2709
02:19:23,360 --> 02:19:25,560
Speaker 5: odds are calculating Purdue is going to beat the number

2710
02:19:25,600 --> 02:19:28,680
Speaker 5: sixteen seed. So then instead of being a that's called

2711
02:19:28,720 --> 02:19:31,280
Speaker 5: a five to one, four to one under whatever would

2712
02:19:31,280 --> 02:19:34,320
Speaker 5: have been in round two, they become a ten to

2713
02:19:34,360 --> 02:19:37,279
Speaker 5: one favorite. That changes the mechanical parlay quite.

2714
02:19:37,160 --> 02:19:39,640
Speaker 2: A bit, right, right, right right.

2715
02:19:39,879 --> 02:19:42,879
Speaker 5: But the situation like this with the Lakers, Look, maybe

2716
02:19:42,920 --> 02:19:46,360
Speaker 5: Sacramento upsets Golden State and that would affect that, you know,

2717
02:19:46,480 --> 02:19:49,680
Speaker 5: right that happened, right? Probably not, but I.

2718
02:19:50,600 --> 02:19:53,320
Speaker 2: Think it could happen. But my point is that the

2719
02:19:53,800 --> 02:19:56,120
Speaker 2: whole thing like, you're you're asking for too much.

2720
02:19:58,959 --> 02:20:01,320
Speaker 5: I think you are an I personally think you are.

2721
02:20:01,320 --> 02:20:03,959
Speaker 5: And again I do, listen, I do think the Lakers

2722
02:20:04,520 --> 02:20:06,520
Speaker 5: are a team that can do it. I I do,

2723
02:20:06,600 --> 02:20:09,200
Speaker 5: I mean, I just I think they improve their team.

2724
02:20:09,240 --> 02:20:11,080
Speaker 5: I don't think they're personally. I think Memphis will find

2725
02:20:11,080 --> 02:20:13,160
Speaker 5: a way to wined very close series there, and that

2726
02:20:13,280 --> 02:20:16,720
Speaker 5: series will probably go seven game. Things can get really close. Tough,

2727
02:20:17,120 --> 02:20:20,120
Speaker 5: competitive series. Not probably the hardest series for me in

2728
02:20:20,120 --> 02:20:22,520
Speaker 5: a round one to pick. And it's actually the shortest price,

2729
02:20:22,800 --> 02:20:23,839
Speaker 5: so its.

2730
02:20:23,720 --> 02:20:26,760
Speaker 2: Figure the same thing. I can't I can't even figure

2731
02:20:26,760 --> 02:20:29,360
Speaker 2: it out. I can't. I can't tell them. Usually I

2732
02:20:29,360 --> 02:20:32,440
Speaker 2: can tell the matchups, but I can't really tell the

2733
02:20:32,480 --> 02:20:33,640
Speaker 2: matchups in this series.

2734
02:20:34,480 --> 02:20:36,920
Speaker 5: It's a tough one, it really is, Anthony. I agree

2735
02:20:36,920 --> 02:20:39,840
Speaker 5: with you fully. It is a very tough series to pick,

2736
02:20:40,800 --> 02:20:43,320
Speaker 5: get up. I think Memphis somehow just pulls out a

2737
02:20:43,400 --> 02:20:45,800
Speaker 5: very very close one. But I would not be I

2738
02:20:45,800 --> 02:20:47,760
Speaker 5: would not blink an eye at all if the Lakers won.

2739
02:20:49,040 --> 02:20:52,160
Speaker 5: Lakers again, that gaming into Minnesota did I don't want

2740
02:20:52,160 --> 02:20:54,320
Speaker 5: to say, concern me again. There's a playing game, but

2741
02:20:54,400 --> 02:20:56,760
Speaker 5: it was, you know, I was surprised that, you know,

2742
02:20:57,360 --> 02:20:59,280
Speaker 5: almost a double digit favorite. It was so hard for

2743
02:20:59,280 --> 02:21:03,320
Speaker 5: them to win. And Lebron Clee is great, but I

2744
02:21:03,360 --> 02:21:06,119
Speaker 5: still don't I don't know if he's quite the Lebron

2745
02:21:06,120 --> 02:21:09,240
Speaker 5: and we've seen the past fifteen years, even though he's

2746
02:21:09,240 --> 02:21:12,520
Speaker 5: still great. I mean, I'm gonna lean here in Memphis again,

2747
02:21:12,600 --> 02:21:13,560
Speaker 5: not a series I'm betting.

2748
02:21:14,640 --> 02:21:19,320
Speaker 2: Let's look at the Miami and Milwaukee, and obviously Milwaukee

2749
02:21:19,360 --> 02:21:23,680
Speaker 2: will win the series. But you know, Miami has a

2750
02:21:23,800 --> 02:21:27,560
Speaker 2: chance because they match up against Milwaukee. That's the one

2751
02:21:27,640 --> 02:21:29,959
Speaker 2: team that if I'm Milwaukee, I just don't I don't

2752
02:21:30,000 --> 02:21:35,280
Speaker 2: want to say, because I think Miami's going to attack him.

2753
02:21:35,560 --> 02:21:38,600
Speaker 5: You know, Anthy, It's interesting. I half agree with you. Look,

2754
02:21:38,760 --> 02:21:42,480
Speaker 5: I think Milwaukee is susceptible to be being beaten, but

2755
02:21:42,600 --> 02:21:44,480
Speaker 5: for me, it's going to be more in the second round,

2756
02:21:44,560 --> 02:21:47,800
Speaker 5: especially if they play Cleveland. I think Cleveland, you know,

2757
02:21:47,840 --> 02:21:50,320
Speaker 5: I know, anythink I talked about from Lamann's metrics point

2758
02:21:50,320 --> 02:21:52,480
Speaker 5: of view, how Yukon was a team in college basketball

2759
02:21:52,520 --> 02:21:55,320
Speaker 5: that people really like because they were so good offensively

2760
02:21:55,360 --> 02:21:57,640
Speaker 5: in defense. In the NBA, that team is the Cleveland Cavaliers.

2761
02:21:57,879 --> 02:21:59,840
Speaker 5: They actually have this. They have a better point diffrence

2762
02:22:00,040 --> 02:22:02,520
Speaker 5: than the Bucks. The Bucks will think plus three point four,

2763
02:22:03,840 --> 02:22:06,440
Speaker 5: that have lose thing for plus five point five. Like

2764
02:22:06,480 --> 02:22:10,240
Speaker 5: from a here analytical point, Cleveland was actually far better

2765
02:22:10,280 --> 02:22:13,160
Speaker 5: than than Milwaukee was as year the record wasn't but

2766
02:22:13,480 --> 02:22:16,120
Speaker 5: the record shore is that Cleveland should have been better, Okay,

2767
02:22:16,200 --> 02:22:20,320
Speaker 5: not that the actual record was better. Miami to me, Anthony, again,

2768
02:22:20,440 --> 02:22:23,080
Speaker 5: I don't think they are a good team. I don't.

2769
02:22:23,200 --> 02:22:26,480
Speaker 5: I think we saw it last night against the Bulls. Yeah,

2770
02:22:26,480 --> 02:22:28,280
Speaker 5: they got to waited the way I got a fake

2771
02:22:28,440 --> 02:22:31,640
Speaker 5: fall point win. They were losing by five late they

2772
02:22:31,720 --> 02:22:35,160
Speaker 5: end up somehow winning by twelve or by eleven. We

2773
02:22:35,200 --> 02:22:39,320
Speaker 5: saw them lose the first game they played as well

2774
02:22:40,280 --> 02:22:43,320
Speaker 5: against Atlanta. I don't think Miami is very good. I

2775
02:22:43,360 --> 02:22:47,280
Speaker 5: actually do expect Milwaukee to win that series easily. I'm

2776
02:22:47,320 --> 02:22:49,400
Speaker 5: gonna say I just I think Milwaukee will win that

2777
02:22:49,440 --> 02:22:52,040
Speaker 5: series in five or less. I just don't think Miami's good.

2778
02:22:52,400 --> 02:22:54,240
Speaker 5: That's my problem with him. Well, I do agree with

2779
02:22:54,240 --> 02:22:56,440
Speaker 5: Milwaukee is susceptible. I just don't think that's the team

2780
02:22:56,440 --> 02:22:56,800
Speaker 5: to do it.

2781
02:22:56,879 --> 02:22:59,920
Speaker 2: Okay, So my point is less that they're gonna be

2782
02:23:00,040 --> 02:23:03,520
Speaker 2: eat them. But so you don't even think of tax situation.

2783
02:23:03,680 --> 02:23:06,480
Speaker 5: No, I don't I think Miami. I think Miami is

2784
02:23:06,560 --> 02:23:09,600
Speaker 5: really right there with the Nets. Is the worst team

2785
02:23:09,600 --> 02:23:10,480
Speaker 5: in the playoffs.

2786
02:23:10,760 --> 02:23:14,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I hear you. I will say this, though

2787
02:23:15,440 --> 02:23:18,680
Speaker 2: they're a they do match. If you look at the

2788
02:23:18,720 --> 02:23:22,160
Speaker 2: matchups on the floor, they actually match up against them.

2789
02:23:22,280 --> 02:23:25,560
Speaker 5: So just hear you, I hear you. And again I'm

2790
02:23:25,640 --> 02:23:29,199
Speaker 5: not I'm not big on Milwaukee. So I just don't

2791
02:23:29,200 --> 02:23:30,240
Speaker 5: know if this is the team I want to go

2792
02:23:30,320 --> 02:23:32,599
Speaker 5: to Warworth against them that if that makes sense.

2793
02:23:32,760 --> 02:23:35,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And again I'm just talking more of

2794
02:23:35,360 --> 02:23:38,360
Speaker 2: a tax so for the next round, type of.

2795
02:23:38,879 --> 02:23:40,640
Speaker 5: Nine point spread and say if you like it, Look,

2796
02:23:40,640 --> 02:23:43,760
Speaker 5: I'll if you like Miami getting nine once the last

2797
02:23:43,800 --> 02:23:45,480
Speaker 5: time Miami got nine in the playoffs, I'd have to

2798
02:23:45,480 --> 02:23:46,400
Speaker 5: really think.

2799
02:23:46,760 --> 02:23:48,879
Speaker 2: They're and they are well coached, you know, that's the

2800
02:23:48,920 --> 02:23:49,240
Speaker 2: one thing.

2801
02:23:50,280 --> 02:23:51,840
Speaker 5: I just don't think they have the guns.

2802
02:23:51,520 --> 02:23:55,039
Speaker 2: To do it. Yeah. Uh, let me ask you about

2803
02:23:55,120 --> 02:23:59,520
Speaker 2: let's keep going the how do you feel about Boston

2804
02:23:59,600 --> 02:24:00,440
Speaker 2: going in to it?

2805
02:24:01,240 --> 02:24:04,400
Speaker 5: You look at Boston anthy. I think Boston is the

2806
02:24:04,440 --> 02:24:08,280
Speaker 5: most likely per team to get to the to the

2807
02:24:08,360 --> 02:24:10,680
Speaker 5: NBA Finals, and that I think they have the most

2808
02:24:10,720 --> 02:24:13,480
Speaker 5: talented roster. Now they I you know, I spooke Troy

2809
02:24:13,520 --> 02:24:16,480
Speaker 5: their last fifty five games or so, their record is

2810
02:24:16,680 --> 02:24:18,640
Speaker 5: close to all fifty win team, not the fifty seven

2811
02:24:18,720 --> 02:24:21,000
Speaker 5: wins they had during the season. But I just think

2812
02:24:21,040 --> 02:24:23,760
Speaker 5: talent wise, this team is just too good. That being said,

2813
02:24:23,840 --> 02:24:27,000
Speaker 5: I do think again you're talking about Miami versus Milwaukee.

2814
02:24:27,200 --> 02:24:29,560
Speaker 5: I think Atlanta can maybe be a little more plucky

2815
02:24:30,040 --> 02:24:34,520
Speaker 5: than Miami can. I think maybe Atlanta can maybe win

2816
02:24:34,560 --> 02:24:36,960
Speaker 5: a game or two and make that series a little

2817
02:24:36,959 --> 02:24:39,600
Speaker 5: more interesting perhaps, But I fully expect Boston to win.

2818
02:24:39,840 --> 02:24:42,040
Speaker 5: I think it'll be Boston versus Philly. I think it'll

2819
02:24:42,080 --> 02:24:45,160
Speaker 5: be Milwaukee versus Cleveland. Not expecting any upsets in the

2820
02:24:45,200 --> 02:24:48,720
Speaker 5: Eastern Conference, and I do think Cleveland again, I will say,

2821
02:24:48,720 --> 02:24:52,119
Speaker 5: I think Cleveland can be the team that maybe upsets

2822
02:24:52,160 --> 02:24:54,920
Speaker 5: Milwaukee on I think Philadelphia Boston will be a really

2823
02:24:54,920 --> 02:24:55,400
Speaker 5: good series.

2824
02:24:56,120 --> 02:24:59,400
Speaker 2: Well, all right, sit tight for me, big brain. I

2825
02:24:59,400 --> 02:25:01,560
Speaker 2: went the g games. Who you like in the games

2826
02:25:01,600 --> 02:25:04,920
Speaker 2: and some of your props coming up. But first we

2827
02:25:05,000 --> 02:25:09,439
Speaker 2: got our man figure with our trending Hello fake.

2828
02:25:09,320 --> 02:25:12,080
Speaker 1: Hello ant talking about the NBA playoffs. Timberwolves are back

2829
02:25:12,120 --> 02:25:14,760
Speaker 1: in the postseason for the second consecutive year. They hammered

2830
02:25:14,800 --> 02:25:17,800
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City in their playing matchup Friday night by the

2831
02:25:17,800 --> 02:25:20,360
Speaker 1: score of one twenty to ninety five. Rudy Gobert was

2832
02:25:20,400 --> 02:25:22,720
Speaker 1: back into the lineup after serving that suspension against the

2833
02:25:22,800 --> 02:25:25,960
Speaker 1: Lakers on Tuesday. He had twenty one point to ten rebounds.

2834
02:25:25,959 --> 02:25:28,959
Speaker 1: They were led by Karl Anthony Towns, who scored twenty

2835
02:25:29,000 --> 02:25:31,640
Speaker 1: eight points. They'll had to Denver to face the Nuggets,

2836
02:25:31,640 --> 02:25:34,440
Speaker 1: Game one scheduled for tomorrow night. The Miami Heat were

2837
02:25:34,480 --> 02:25:36,680
Speaker 1: the top seed in the East last season. They just

2838
02:25:36,720 --> 02:25:38,280
Speaker 1: made it in as the eighth seat this year. They

2839
02:25:38,320 --> 02:25:39,960
Speaker 1: pick up a one to two to ninety one victory

2840
02:25:40,000 --> 02:25:43,480
Speaker 1: over Chicago in comeback fashion. Jimmy Butler thirty one points.

2841
02:25:43,560 --> 02:25:46,560
Speaker 1: Bam Mandebayo pulled down seventeen boards for the Heat. They

2842
02:25:46,560 --> 02:25:48,840
Speaker 1: will take on Milwaukee in the first round Game one

2843
02:25:48,959 --> 02:25:49,560
Speaker 1: tomorrow night.

2844
02:25:49,600 --> 02:25:50,040
Speaker 2: As well.

2845
02:25:50,320 --> 02:25:52,600
Speaker 1: Baseball, the Mets got a grand slam in seven RBIs

2846
02:25:52,600 --> 02:25:56,199
Speaker 1: from Francisco Lindor in a seventeen to six domination of Oakland,

2847
02:25:56,440 --> 02:25:59,760
Speaker 1: who walked seventeen matts. Mets batters, i should say, in

2848
02:25:59,760 --> 02:26:01,720
Speaker 1: that one, and fell to three and eleven.

2849
02:26:01,800 --> 02:26:02,600
Speaker 2: With that loss.

2850
02:26:02,800 --> 02:26:05,160
Speaker 1: Cubs roughed up the Dodgers eight to three behind seven

2851
02:26:05,200 --> 02:26:08,080
Speaker 1: strong innings from Justin Steele. Chicago hit five home runs

2852
02:26:08,360 --> 02:26:10,880
Speaker 1: and they're off of Dodgers pitching. Atlanta hit five home

2853
02:26:10,959 --> 02:26:13,440
Speaker 1: runs as well. They blew out Kansas City. Toronto got

2854
02:26:13,440 --> 02:26:15,680
Speaker 1: a home run from George Springer, and they defeated Tampa

2855
02:26:15,680 --> 02:26:18,520
Speaker 1: Bay six to three, snapping the race thirteen game win

2856
02:26:18,560 --> 02:26:19,920
Speaker 1: streak to begin the year.

2857
02:26:20,440 --> 02:26:23,520
Speaker 2: Back to the Fellas, Thank you, fig. We are the

2858
02:26:23,560 --> 02:26:25,920
Speaker 2: Fellas Live from the ty rack dot com studio. How

2859
02:26:26,040 --> 02:26:29,640
Speaker 2: that figure you like? Figure you liked Sacktown, Brad, He

2860
02:26:29,840 --> 02:26:33,360
Speaker 2: liked Sacktown to shock the world?

2861
02:26:33,840 --> 02:26:36,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I do know, Anthony. Look, I'll say this or

2862
02:26:36,520 --> 02:26:39,560
Speaker 5: someone who followed that team very closely all year of.

2863
02:26:40,560 --> 02:26:41,720
Speaker 2: It would ticket you cashed.

2864
02:26:42,720 --> 02:26:44,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, well I have them one hundred and one to

2865
02:26:44,200 --> 02:26:47,040
Speaker 5: win the division. And that was my hobby looking and

2866
02:26:47,080 --> 02:26:48,360
Speaker 5: one that it kind of makes up for a lot

2867
02:26:48,360 --> 02:26:51,800
Speaker 5: of mistakes that you're gonna make, you know, So that

2868
02:26:53,800 --> 02:26:55,400
Speaker 5: that was my biggest win of the year. So I

2869
02:26:55,520 --> 02:27:00,600
Speaker 5: followed this team extremely closely. Here's why they won the divis, guys,

2870
02:27:00,760 --> 02:27:02,920
Speaker 5: and for everyone listening, they won the division because their

2871
02:27:02,920 --> 02:27:05,840
Speaker 5: top eight players all played seventy three games or more.

2872
02:27:06,160 --> 02:27:09,600
Speaker 5: Think about that. In today's world, that's impossible, that never happens.

2873
02:27:10,040 --> 02:27:12,560
Speaker 5: They played every one of their guys virtually every game.

2874
02:27:12,840 --> 02:27:15,400
Speaker 5: That is why they won the division. In fact, they're

2875
02:27:15,760 --> 02:27:19,200
Speaker 5: like it's they wanted to win the division. That was

2876
02:27:19,240 --> 02:27:21,320
Speaker 5: a huge thing for them, and it's terrific for the

2877
02:27:21,360 --> 02:27:23,560
Speaker 5: city Light, the beam, et cetera, et cetera. But in

2878
02:27:23,680 --> 02:27:25,360
Speaker 5: terms of now they're playing teams that are actually going

2879
02:27:25,400 --> 02:27:27,600
Speaker 5: to match them mono a mono where all the top

2880
02:27:27,640 --> 02:27:30,400
Speaker 5: players are gonna be playing. Look now, maybe game one

2881
02:27:30,400 --> 02:27:32,039
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be wrong and maybe just and they were

2882
02:27:32,040 --> 02:27:33,560
Speaker 5: not a good home team the show. Ironically, they had

2883
02:27:33,600 --> 02:27:35,520
Speaker 5: the best road record in the league, but they were

2884
02:27:35,560 --> 02:27:39,119
Speaker 5: not great at home. I like Golden State. I bet

2885
02:27:39,160 --> 02:27:41,280
Speaker 5: Golden State. I laid two thirty five in the opening

2886
02:27:41,280 --> 02:27:43,000
Speaker 5: and ain's still two fifty. I still like it at

2887
02:27:43,000 --> 02:27:45,320
Speaker 5: that number. I think Golden State wins the series at

2888
02:27:45,400 --> 02:27:46,560
Speaker 5: least three out of four times.

2889
02:27:46,640 --> 02:27:47,000
Speaker 2: I do.

2890
02:27:47,400 --> 02:27:49,119
Speaker 5: Golden State didn't have Steph for a lot of the year.

2891
02:27:49,120 --> 02:27:51,240
Speaker 5: They didn't have Clay Thompson for a lot of the year.

2892
02:27:51,240 --> 02:27:52,960
Speaker 5: They didn't have Andrew Wiggins for a lot of the year.

2893
02:27:53,879 --> 02:27:56,160
Speaker 5: I think this team will beat Sacramento. I really do.

2894
02:27:57,240 --> 02:27:59,840
Speaker 5: I like again, I bet Golden State plus one the day.

2895
02:28:01,000 --> 02:28:04,360
Speaker 5: I think Golden Fay will win this series easily. I

2896
02:28:04,440 --> 02:28:08,160
Speaker 5: just think that Sacramento was a great story, but I

2897
02:28:08,200 --> 02:28:10,720
Speaker 5: think that Golden State is just better and I think

2898
02:28:10,720 --> 02:28:14,120
Speaker 5: they will Golden State scaratos defense I think will just

2899
02:28:14,280 --> 02:28:16,360
Speaker 5: be exposed in these playoffs. I don't think they'll be

2900
02:28:16,360 --> 02:28:18,160
Speaker 5: able to get stops like other teams will be able

2901
02:28:18,200 --> 02:28:20,200
Speaker 5: to get stops in these tight games. They were never

2902
02:28:20,240 --> 02:28:21,440
Speaker 5: able to get stops to syear.

2903
02:28:21,240 --> 02:28:28,280
Speaker 2: In a big spot anything never never, I hear you.

2904
02:28:28,440 --> 02:28:31,280
Speaker 2: It's a compelling point that you make. Yes it is,

2905
02:28:31,800 --> 02:28:32,480
Speaker 2: but we'll see this.

2906
02:28:32,640 --> 02:28:34,360
Speaker 5: It's going to be nuts stat today game one, I

2907
02:28:34,400 --> 02:28:37,359
Speaker 5: will say that there's gonna be the insane crowd, probably

2908
02:28:37,560 --> 02:28:40,400
Speaker 5: the best atmosphere in a game in Sacramento. It's probably

2909
02:28:40,440 --> 02:28:43,360
Speaker 5: since the Lakers Kings Game seven back in I think

2910
02:28:43,360 --> 02:28:45,280
Speaker 5: it was two thousand and two or whatever year. It

2911
02:28:45,400 --> 02:28:49,800
Speaker 5: was so so factoring in that, you know it's gonna

2912
02:28:49,800 --> 02:28:52,240
Speaker 5: be the biggest crowd in twenty years. Maybe the emotions

2913
02:28:52,320 --> 02:28:54,280
Speaker 5: just that incredible, and they win this first game, even

2914
02:28:54,280 --> 02:28:56,680
Speaker 5: though I bet Golden State, but I just think Golden

2915
02:28:56,680 --> 02:28:59,200
Speaker 5: State's better. So I'm going to, in my opinion, take

2916
02:28:59,200 --> 02:29:00,760
Speaker 5: the better team in rock with all.

2917
02:29:00,879 --> 02:29:04,720
Speaker 2: Right about today anything game wise? Before we get to

2918
02:29:04,800 --> 02:29:06,879
Speaker 2: the props, are you leaning.

2919
02:29:08,240 --> 02:29:10,880
Speaker 5: Your game well? Game wise? Anthony? Look, I only look

2920
02:29:10,920 --> 02:29:12,879
Speaker 5: thwed off to over the nets. I think that's gonna

2921
02:29:12,879 --> 02:29:15,720
Speaker 5: be uh, five game series for the Sixers. I don't

2922
02:29:15,720 --> 02:29:20,240
Speaker 5: think that'll be that competitive. Yeah, I would lean eight

2923
02:29:20,360 --> 02:29:23,840
Speaker 5: half for the Sixers. I lean Atlanta getting nine against Boston. Again.

2924
02:29:23,879 --> 02:29:27,400
Speaker 5: I actually I think Atlanta could maybe you know, certainly

2925
02:29:27,440 --> 02:29:30,160
Speaker 5: keep one of those first two games in Boston competitive. Uh.

2926
02:29:30,320 --> 02:29:32,800
Speaker 5: Julius Randall really anxiously if he's going to play or not.

2927
02:29:33,600 --> 02:29:37,400
Speaker 5: If he plays, I try lean nix with the points.

2928
02:29:37,480 --> 02:29:39,760
Speaker 5: Quite honestly, if he doesn't play, I'm an only in Cleveland.

2929
02:29:39,760 --> 02:29:41,760
Speaker 5: It's really that simple to me is his health, and

2930
02:29:41,800 --> 02:29:44,680
Speaker 5: I want to see what that's going to be before

2931
02:29:44,720 --> 02:29:46,600
Speaker 5: I put down any money on that. I do expect

2932
02:29:46,600 --> 02:29:48,560
Speaker 5: Cleveland to win the series, though I told you I

2933
02:29:48,640 --> 02:29:51,720
Speaker 5: bet Golden State getting one. I think they will win, uh,

2934
02:29:51,760 --> 02:29:53,520
Speaker 5: And you know that's that's what I think. And I

2935
02:29:53,560 --> 02:29:55,920
Speaker 5: do think the Suns will beat the Clippers, and I

2936
02:29:55,959 --> 02:29:57,879
Speaker 5: do think the Nuggets will get the Trembles in the series.

2937
02:29:57,920 --> 02:30:00,080
Speaker 5: I'm not expected. I'm really not expecting any upsets for

2938
02:30:00,160 --> 02:30:02,320
Speaker 5: saying Anthony in any of these series, to be honest,

2939
02:30:02,360 --> 02:30:03,680
Speaker 5: and the NBA, the usually don't happen.

2940
02:30:05,280 --> 02:30:07,480
Speaker 2: There is a I was just looking at the game.

2941
02:30:07,560 --> 02:30:14,480
Speaker 2: There's a. There's an alternate point toward prop for MAXI today,

2942
02:30:14,560 --> 02:30:18,800
Speaker 2: Tyrese maxim for the Sixers to score thirty plus a'st

2943
02:30:18,840 --> 02:30:22,000
Speaker 2: ten to one, and I was gonna ask you, I mean,

2944
02:30:22,080 --> 02:30:24,560
Speaker 2: that's worth a pizza back because I looked at that thing,

2945
02:30:24,680 --> 02:30:27,040
Speaker 2: sit out to me and go because he could score.

2946
02:30:27,120 --> 02:30:29,000
Speaker 2: I could see the Sixers trying to get him off,

2947
02:30:29,840 --> 02:30:33,440
Speaker 2: and you know what, they're not a great defensive team,

2948
02:30:33,480 --> 02:30:36,360
Speaker 2: Brooklyn up top. I could see him going off for thirty.

2949
02:30:37,560 --> 02:30:40,440
Speaker 5: I mean, look, Tyrisman actually certainly does have it in

2950
02:30:40,520 --> 02:30:43,520
Speaker 5: an Anthony to get thirty points. But when I put

2951
02:30:43,560 --> 02:30:46,200
Speaker 5: in Anthony like his last I just put in a

2952
02:30:46,280 --> 02:30:49,360
Speaker 5: quick thing of his last seventy games. He's done the

2953
02:30:49,360 --> 02:30:52,720
Speaker 5: eight out of seventy times, so it's about math wise,

2954
02:30:52,760 --> 02:30:55,600
Speaker 5: it's about TENBA one is actually slightly winning bet. So

2955
02:30:55,959 --> 02:30:57,440
Speaker 5: from math point of view, the actually do have a

2956
02:30:57,480 --> 02:31:01,199
Speaker 5: winning bet against Brooklyn. This averaging nineteen and a half.

2957
02:31:01,760 --> 02:31:03,880
Speaker 5: Not quite something I'm going to put my money on,

2958
02:31:03,959 --> 02:31:06,520
Speaker 5: but it's certainly not the Masters. That's not the Matthafery

2959
02:31:06,520 --> 02:31:09,080
Speaker 5: shows the bets in your favor, so I certainly can't Chritsiz.

2960
02:31:09,280 --> 02:31:10,840
Speaker 5: I'll give you some bet. I did bet in that game.

2961
02:31:11,040 --> 02:31:13,760
Speaker 5: Harden over nine and a half assists anthony twenty nine

2962
02:31:13,800 --> 02:31:17,040
Speaker 5: and thirteen is last forty two sixteen nine percent clip. PJ.

2963
02:31:17,200 --> 02:31:19,800
Speaker 5: Tucker under four and a half rebounds thirty four and

2964
02:31:19,800 --> 02:31:22,720
Speaker 5: eleven is last forty five, a seventy six percent clip.

2965
02:31:23,200 --> 02:31:25,840
Speaker 5: Joe on Beid over three and a half assists plus

2966
02:31:25,879 --> 02:31:28,280
Speaker 5: a dollar ten is thirty seven and twenty nine for

2967
02:31:28,280 --> 02:31:31,279
Speaker 5: the year, and we're getting plus one ten the Anthony

2968
02:31:31,280 --> 02:31:33,440
Speaker 5: Mountain over a half of steal minus two hundred. It's

2969
02:31:33,480 --> 02:31:36,240
Speaker 5: fifty seven and twenty almost a seventy five percent clip.

2970
02:31:36,280 --> 02:31:38,280
Speaker 5: He only has to win it sixty six percent of

2971
02:31:38,320 --> 02:31:40,320
Speaker 5: the time for to be winning bet. That's a good bet.

2972
02:31:40,640 --> 02:31:43,440
Speaker 5: And mchal Bridge is under a half a block is

2973
02:31:43,440 --> 02:31:46,520
Speaker 5: thirty eight and twenty four, twenty and eleven thirty last

2974
02:31:46,520 --> 02:31:49,240
Speaker 5: thirty one. The juice is even. I think it's Amerik's

2975
02:31:49,240 --> 02:31:49,800
Speaker 5: a bet as well.

2976
02:31:51,000 --> 02:31:53,879
Speaker 2: All right, give me some more props today.

2977
02:31:55,080 --> 02:31:59,080
Speaker 5: I'll give you one other one. Daron Fox under a

2978
02:31:59,120 --> 02:32:02,400
Speaker 5: four and a half rebels thirty five and seventeen. It's

2979
02:32:02,440 --> 02:32:04,800
Speaker 5: pretty strong. It wins over two out of three times.

2980
02:32:04,959 --> 02:32:07,120
Speaker 5: I like that. Those are my favorite props in the

2981
02:32:07,160 --> 02:32:08,720
Speaker 5: AMPI and I'll give you a couple of baseball if

2982
02:32:08,720 --> 02:32:12,120
Speaker 5: I could switch up on you. Ronsey Cotrero for the

2983
02:32:12,120 --> 02:32:15,480
Speaker 5: Pirates getting plus a dour eighty against Steven Matz. I

2984
02:32:15,480 --> 02:32:18,280
Speaker 5: think that line just too high. Again. I expect the

2985
02:32:18,320 --> 02:32:21,000
Speaker 5: Cardinals to win the game, but match is certainly not great.

2986
02:32:21,040 --> 02:32:25,760
Speaker 5: Contrail hit Man, I agree it is too high. Lines

2987
02:32:25,800 --> 02:32:29,800
Speaker 5: too high per Alta against Lugo in the Brewers Padres game,

2988
02:32:29,959 --> 02:32:32,440
Speaker 5: I like under eight runs per Alta this year twelve innings,

2989
02:32:32,440 --> 02:32:35,720
Speaker 5: fourteen strikeouts, one run Lugo I always saw so underrated.

2990
02:32:35,840 --> 02:32:38,400
Speaker 5: Thirteen innings, twelve k's only two runs. I like under

2991
02:32:38,440 --> 02:32:41,440
Speaker 5: eight and a good pitcher's park bryce out er minus

2992
02:32:41,440 --> 02:32:44,120
Speaker 5: a dollar thirty five against Chris Bubick out of this

2993
02:32:44,240 --> 02:32:47,760
Speaker 5: year twelve innings, thirteen k's, no runs, and eleven career

2994
02:32:47,760 --> 02:32:49,520
Speaker 5: starts as the Ares two point five eight for a

2995
02:32:49,560 --> 02:32:52,840
Speaker 5: great Atlanta team going into an awful Kansasity team. Bubrick

2996
02:32:53,160 --> 02:32:55,680
Speaker 5: His a career are four point seventy eight, one fifty

2997
02:32:55,720 --> 02:32:58,560
Speaker 5: one whip not a great k guy. Has pitched twelves

2998
02:32:58,600 --> 02:33:02,039
Speaker 5: two starts this year. A short, short price. I'll take

2999
02:33:02,120 --> 02:33:04,120
Speaker 5: my chances with the Braves and Elder and I'll go

3000
02:33:04,240 --> 02:33:06,320
Speaker 5: gay Man Man, he's close to fifty to fifty games.

3001
02:33:06,400 --> 02:33:09,200
Speaker 5: John Gray plus a dollar fifty five agains Tunner Brown

3002
02:33:09,520 --> 02:33:13,000
Speaker 5: great to me, is a legitimate solid starting pitcher. Brown

3003
02:33:13,040 --> 02:33:15,440
Speaker 5: I like, but I think Houston's overrated and I think we'

3004
02:33:15,440 --> 02:33:17,480
Speaker 5: seen at the beginning of their year. I think this

3005
02:33:17,560 --> 02:33:20,240
Speaker 5: game should be closer. Maybe a dollar twenty five. Taking

3006
02:33:20,240 --> 02:33:21,960
Speaker 5: a dollar fifty five, I think, just say with the

3007
02:33:22,040 --> 02:33:22,960
Speaker 5: underdog Rangers.

3008
02:33:23,240 --> 02:33:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, how about Tampa that bounce back if they're one

3009
02:33:27,200 --> 02:33:28,040
Speaker 2: and only lost.

3010
02:33:28,879 --> 02:33:31,080
Speaker 5: You know, look, it's funny. Well I think for Tampa

3011
02:33:31,080 --> 02:33:33,480
Speaker 5: again now not even lost. Now, they didn't have Glass

3012
02:33:33,520 --> 02:33:36,920
Speaker 5: now and now they lost Springs, who was yes, literally

3013
02:33:37,040 --> 02:33:39,680
Speaker 5: not to overstateium is cy young candidate that's going to

3014
02:33:39,959 --> 02:33:42,959
Speaker 5: hurt them unfortunately. And you know, for anyone who went

3015
02:33:43,000 --> 02:33:45,200
Speaker 5: to Tampa Bay now they did call it Taj Bradley,

3016
02:33:45,200 --> 02:33:47,320
Speaker 5: I think would be good to replace him. But no,

3017
02:33:47,440 --> 02:33:49,520
Speaker 5: I mean right now Tampa today, that's not one of

3018
02:33:49,520 --> 02:33:54,640
Speaker 5: the games I was personally looking to bet. I would

3019
02:33:54,640 --> 02:33:56,840
Speaker 5: actually lean Toronto, believe or not, if anything in that game.

3020
02:33:56,879 --> 02:34:00,840
Speaker 5: I don't really know much about Calvin Stoucher Kakuchi. I

3021
02:34:00,879 --> 02:34:03,400
Speaker 5: don't love the games around a pick, but I like that.

3022
02:34:03,520 --> 02:34:06,680
Speaker 2: Well, Fleming is going to be the Flemings. It's just

3023
02:34:06,760 --> 02:34:08,800
Speaker 2: really easy, open and fasten and Fleming is going to

3024
02:34:08,840 --> 02:34:09,199
Speaker 2: come in.

3025
02:34:09,760 --> 02:34:12,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's to me again. It's

3026
02:34:12,320 --> 02:34:14,400
Speaker 5: it's nottic. I thought the line should be right about

3027
02:34:14,400 --> 02:34:16,600
Speaker 5: what the Bluejo think. It's a baby favorite, which they are.

3028
02:34:17,040 --> 02:34:20,840
Speaker 2: All right, listen, great stuff as always, my brother and enjoy.

3029
02:34:21,000 --> 02:34:23,160
Speaker 2: I know you geek out over the NBA playoffs, so

3030
02:34:23,280 --> 02:34:24,560
Speaker 2: it's going to be a lot of fun. Man.

3031
02:34:24,959 --> 02:34:26,480
Speaker 5: I appreciate it. The good luck to everyone out there.

3032
02:34:26,480 --> 02:34:27,960
Speaker 5: I always appreciate you. Thank you so much.

3033
02:34:27,959 --> 02:34:31,640
Speaker 2: I love your big brain on brad Our Betting analyst

3034
02:34:31,840 --> 02:34:35,760
Speaker 2: coming in with the plays. Wow, made one hundred to

3035
02:34:35,760 --> 02:34:39,400
Speaker 2: one ticket on this Sacramento Kings to win the division.

3036
02:34:40,879 --> 02:34:43,800
Speaker 2: That's amazing. All right, we'll come back and uh we

3037
02:34:43,920 --> 02:34:47,680
Speaker 2: still got one more segment, hang figuring and I where

3038
02:34:47,680 --> 02:34:53,280
Speaker 2: the fellas right here on Fox Sports Radio as uh

3039
02:34:53,400 --> 02:34:59,400
Speaker 2: we hang out from the tire rack dot Com studios

3040
02:35:00,120 --> 02:35:04,879
Speaker 2: on this incredible day of the NBA Playoffs. Time now

3041
02:35:05,000 --> 02:35:10,600
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3045
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Speaker 2: hundred progressive. Let's go to the Mets Big Morality, A's

3046
02:35:26,200 --> 02:35:31,280
Speaker 2: and Francisco Lindor courtesy of the Mets Radio Network.

3047
02:35:32,040 --> 02:35:33,920
Speaker 1: Here's Lindor basis loaded pitch.

3048
02:35:34,520 --> 02:35:38,680
Speaker 2: Francisco cracks one deep to center field. Ruiz back at

3049
02:35:38,720 --> 02:35:41,920
Speaker 2: the track. This one is long gone.

3050
02:35:43,840 --> 02:35:48,400
Speaker 1: It's a grand Slam home run for Francisco Lindor.

3051
02:35:50,360 --> 02:35:55,000
Speaker 2: And there was the progressive play today. Mets win seventeen

3052
02:35:55,200 --> 02:35:59,640
Speaker 2: to six, two touchdowns and a field goal. Figgie.

3053
02:36:00,920 --> 02:36:04,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, tough sled for Oakland or should I say Las Vegas.

3054
02:36:04,360 --> 02:36:06,040
Speaker 1: In a couple of years, they'll be following the Raiders,

3055
02:36:06,120 --> 02:36:11,640
Speaker 1: right yeah, I mean, man, you talk about a city

3056
02:36:11,720 --> 02:36:14,000
Speaker 1: really taking it on the chin over the last six years.

3057
02:36:14,440 --> 02:36:14,640
Speaker 2: Right.

3058
02:36:14,720 --> 02:36:17,039
Speaker 1: You lose the Warriors to San Francisco, you lose the

3059
02:36:17,120 --> 02:36:19,680
Speaker 1: Raiders to Vegas, and you're probably gonna lose the A's

3060
02:36:19,720 --> 02:36:22,560
Speaker 1: to Vegas. That's that's a tough blow for what It's

3061
02:36:22,600 --> 02:36:24,199
Speaker 1: really a great sports city in Oakland.

3062
02:36:24,440 --> 02:36:27,959
Speaker 2: It really is sports city. It's not it's not fair.

3063
02:36:28,840 --> 02:36:32,400
Speaker 2: It's not fair. I agree with you. Yeah, but you're

3064
02:36:32,440 --> 02:36:35,879
Speaker 2: a boy Raider fan, Like does the Raiders being in

3065
02:36:36,000 --> 02:36:40,440
Speaker 2: Vegas is that? Does that do anything for you? Like,

3066
02:36:40,520 --> 02:36:42,920
Speaker 2: does that take away any of the luster?

3067
02:36:43,760 --> 02:36:46,480
Speaker 1: Not really, because I grew up a Los Angeles Raider fan,

3068
02:36:46,640 --> 02:36:48,760
Speaker 1: So it was like they they left to Oakland, and

3069
02:36:48,800 --> 02:36:50,680
Speaker 1: I was certainly upset. I was also a child at

3070
02:36:50,680 --> 02:36:52,480
Speaker 1: the time, and I didn't understand the politics behind it.

3071
02:36:52,520 --> 02:36:54,160
Speaker 1: I was upset, but I still liked them as a

3072
02:36:54,200 --> 02:36:56,840
Speaker 1: team and I still followed them, So I'd go to

3073
02:36:56,879 --> 02:36:59,360
Speaker 1: Oakland every other year or every couple of years for

3074
02:36:59,400 --> 02:37:01,840
Speaker 1: a game. And we know that stadium is a giant dump,

3075
02:37:02,760 --> 02:37:05,840
Speaker 1: giant dump, so they couldn't get out of there fast enough,

3076
02:37:05,879 --> 02:37:08,959
Speaker 1: and they look Al Davis tried before he passed away.

3077
02:37:09,000 --> 02:37:10,960
Speaker 1: Mark Davis tried to find a way to make it

3078
02:37:11,000 --> 02:37:14,520
Speaker 1: work with the coliseum. Is just too much politics. You're

3079
02:37:14,560 --> 02:37:16,680
Speaker 1: dealing with both the city and the county up there,

3080
02:37:16,720 --> 02:37:19,679
Speaker 1: too much red tape to cut through, can't make renovations,

3081
02:37:19,680 --> 02:37:22,080
Speaker 1: and that's ultimately why they ended up leaving it. Look,

3082
02:37:22,120 --> 02:37:25,440
Speaker 1: the valuation of the franchise went up, more sponsorship money

3083
02:37:25,480 --> 02:37:28,640
Speaker 1: came in, brand new stadium. Like financially, it's the greatest

3084
02:37:28,640 --> 02:37:31,160
Speaker 1: thing the Raiders could have ever done, and I think

3085
02:37:31,200 --> 02:37:33,720
Speaker 1: that same situation will work out for the A's ultimately

3086
02:37:33,760 --> 02:37:36,880
Speaker 1: when they end up moving to So from a financial standpoint,

3087
02:37:36,920 --> 02:37:40,240
Speaker 1: for the health of the franchises, it's great. But just

3088
02:37:40,240 --> 02:37:42,520
Speaker 1: for the city itself, it's just really unfortunate that the

3089
02:37:42,560 --> 02:37:44,800
Speaker 1: red tape is getting has gotten in the way and

3090
02:37:44,920 --> 02:37:47,960
Speaker 1: is really taking away from a great sports town like Oakland.

3091
02:37:48,200 --> 02:37:52,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, amen, brother, ye well said, Well said, Hey,

3092
02:37:53,440 --> 02:37:55,440
Speaker 2: one little quick note, because we were talking about the

3093
02:37:55,680 --> 02:37:57,240
Speaker 2: we were doing a mock We gave you the first

3094
02:37:57,320 --> 02:38:01,600
Speaker 2: ten picks of the mock draft on the thirty third team.

3095
02:38:01,640 --> 02:38:07,800
Speaker 2: It's their latest mock draft. They have Handon Hooker going

3096
02:38:08,040 --> 02:38:14,720
Speaker 2: eleven to the Titans. That's high the over by the way,

3097
02:38:14,760 --> 02:38:17,280
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson, that's interesting.

3098
02:38:18,120 --> 02:38:20,039
Speaker 1: Now, look, Hendon Hooker is also going to have to

3099
02:38:20,080 --> 02:38:22,400
Speaker 1: red shirt this year like Richardson, but for different reasons

3100
02:38:22,440 --> 02:38:25,840
Speaker 1: because he's coming off of this ACL surgery so he

3101
02:38:25,959 --> 02:38:28,439
Speaker 1: can't play. Richardson is gonna have to hold a clipboard

3102
02:38:28,440 --> 02:38:30,320
Speaker 1: and learn. I mean, this is just going to be

3103
02:38:30,320 --> 02:38:34,240
Speaker 1: a year of mental reps for Hindon Hooker. I like him,

3104
02:38:34,320 --> 02:38:35,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if I like him in the top ten.

3105
02:38:36,320 --> 02:38:38,560
Speaker 1: I take him in the first round, probably really late,

3106
02:38:38,959 --> 02:38:41,080
Speaker 1: so I can get the fifth year on him. But

3107
02:38:41,360 --> 02:38:43,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if I like him enough. I mean,

3108
02:38:43,320 --> 02:38:45,840
Speaker 1: I feel like he kind of he kind of reads

3109
02:38:45,879 --> 02:38:48,520
Speaker 1: as a system guy to me. Maybe maybe that's unfair,

3110
02:38:49,000 --> 02:38:51,480
Speaker 1: but kind of a system in a big arm that

3111
02:38:51,760 --> 02:38:53,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I love his arm. Yeah, I mean, if

3112
02:38:53,640 --> 02:38:55,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to credit an athlete, he is. But if

3113
02:38:55,879 --> 02:38:58,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to criticize c. J. Stroud for being a

3114
02:38:58,520 --> 02:39:00,520
Speaker 1: system guy and throw into a lot of open guys

3115
02:39:00,520 --> 02:39:02,600
Speaker 1: and not making a lot of reads, I mean, Hendon

3116
02:39:02,600 --> 02:39:04,240
Speaker 1: Hooker did a lot of the same things in Josh

3117
02:39:04,280 --> 02:39:05,280
Speaker 1: Heipel's offense too.

3118
02:39:05,840 --> 02:39:07,440
Speaker 2: Not a lot of tough three tough three.

3119
02:39:07,480 --> 02:39:09,360
Speaker 1: He can make big throws and he has a big arm,

3120
02:39:09,720 --> 02:39:11,080
Speaker 1: but just not a lot of tough doesn't mean he

3121
02:39:11,120 --> 02:39:13,240
Speaker 1: can't make the throws. I just haven't seen him do it.

3122
02:39:13,480 --> 02:39:14,880
Speaker 1: And then the fact that he's gonna have to red

3123
02:39:14,879 --> 02:39:17,080
Speaker 1: shirt with no physical activity for the most part of

3124
02:39:17,080 --> 02:39:19,879
Speaker 1: this entire year, I will give me pause to taking

3125
02:39:19,920 --> 02:39:21,879
Speaker 1: him that high in the first round.

3126
02:39:22,440 --> 02:39:25,520
Speaker 2: So then they go with the Minnesota They do a

3127
02:39:25,560 --> 02:39:33,200
Speaker 2: projected trade, Minnesota come jumps up and Minnesota takes Anthony Richardson,

3128
02:39:34,360 --> 02:39:37,000
Speaker 2: which would be a really interesting spot for him.

3129
02:39:37,440 --> 02:39:40,920
Speaker 1: It would, well, look, I can I can see it.

3130
02:39:41,400 --> 02:39:44,240
Speaker 1: You know, you have cousins for another year. We know

3131
02:39:44,360 --> 02:39:46,400
Speaker 1: last year was just ridiculous and the games they were

3132
02:39:46,440 --> 02:39:48,560
Speaker 1: able to win and make it to the postseason. I

3133
02:39:48,560 --> 02:39:50,320
Speaker 1: think it actually will be a prudent move on their

3134
02:39:50,320 --> 02:39:51,640
Speaker 1: part to kind of look at the future of the

3135
02:39:51,720 --> 02:39:52,520
Speaker 1: quarterback position.

3136
02:39:52,640 --> 02:39:55,800
Speaker 2: So I wouldn't mind that. Actually, it's interesting. All right. Well,

3137
02:39:55,800 --> 02:39:59,560
Speaker 2: that's going to do it for us. Facts for listening, everybody.

3138
02:39:59,600 --> 02:40:01,520
Speaker 2: We love you, guys man, have a great week, enjoy

3139
02:40:01,560 --> 02:40:03,400
Speaker 2: the playoffs. Funked you Next Saturday.