1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: This time when you're living in Chambridge Road, and they were. 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 2: Documents related to the head Biden Center or the bio. 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: Cancer shot or your book. 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 3: Where did you keep papers that related to those things 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 3: that you were actively working? 6 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 4: Well, I I I I I I. 7 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 4: This is what twenty seventeen eighteen that area. Remember in 9 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 4: this time frame, my son is uh either been deployed 10 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 4: or is dying. 11 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 5: And uh and so. 12 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: If it was uh. 13 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 4: And by the way, there were still a lot of 14 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 4: people at the time when I got out of the 15 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 4: Senate that were encouraging me to run in this period, 16 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 4: Uh accept the president. Uh, I'm not being not a 17 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 4: mean thing, I said. I mean, you just thought that 18 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 4: she had a better shot. 19 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 1: Of winning the president than I did. And so I hadn't. 20 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 4: I hadn't at this point, even I'm a pen I 21 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 4: hadn't walked away from the idea that I might run 22 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 4: for office again. 23 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 5: Uh. 24 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 4: If I grant again and been running for president and uh? 25 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 6: And so. 26 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 4: What was happening though when went to boat dying, UH 27 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 4: got a mazed thirty thirty years Uh in twenty eighteen, 28 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 4: when the twenty fifteen and died was made twenty fifteen, 29 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 4: think it's twenty fifteen or eat. 30 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: That much of the month or what he goes. Yeah, 31 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: that's right, that's it. 32 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 6: That's it. 33 00:01:55,800 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 4: And what's happened in the meantime is that UH has 34 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 4: and Trump gets elected in November of twenty seventeen or 35 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 4: sixteen sixteen, twenty sixteen. 36 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 6: Alright, So. 37 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 4: Why I have twenty. 38 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: Seventeen, that's when we left the office in January tent seven, Okay, but. 39 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 4: That's when Trump gets sworn in. And why your rth 40 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 4: Courtland cat you have selected and uh in twenty seventeen 41 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 4: both had passed and uh mah, it was just personal? 42 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 5: Was this memo, mister president? Was this something that you 43 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 5: consciously have after your term as vice president? Is this 44 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 5: something that you wanted to hold on too? 45 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 4: I don't recall. Does I have this the position of 46 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 4: my position to spend up. 47 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: Yes. 48 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 5: To give you some context for this, mister president, he 49 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 5: was found in the front of this notebook that's on 50 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 5: the first page. And the notebook was founded in the 51 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 5: library at the lake House in one of the troys in. 52 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 4: The apperanswers, you don't know, I don't recall how I 53 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 4: got back. I mean, I don't recall how I got 54 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 4: back in the book because I sent it to the 55 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 4: president and gave it to the president, and this looks 56 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 4: like the original. I don't think there's maybe there's a 57 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 4: copy made, but I don't think it was fact just 58 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 4: get oh okay, that's why? 59 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, no, I got. 60 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 4: I wasn't sure how I got how I whether I 61 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 4: gay handed the president. It was facts the president which 62 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 4: I had to copy. Okay, I had the reason. I 63 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 4: just put it in the book and that was it. 64 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: Okay. 65 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 5: Were you aware that you had kept it after your 66 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 5: charming's vice president? 67 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: Did you know that you had it? 68 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 4: I don't know that I knew, wouldn't wouldn't some something 69 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 4: I wished time to think about it. 70 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,799 Speaker 5: The reason I asked is it's been written, it out about. 71 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 5: Woodward wrote about it in one of his books, Jewels. 72 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 5: Wind Coover wrote about it in his biography of You. 73 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 5: So that that's the reason I asked, is if it 74 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 5: was something that he wanted to hang on to, he 75 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 5: was going to be such a. 76 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 4: Reporting or his ima showing reporting, but I wanted to 77 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 4: hang on. I guess I wanted to hang on just 78 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 4: proposterity setting. I mean, this was my position on Afghanistan. 79 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 5: And in the course of explaining that memo about Afghanistan, 80 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 5: you said to Mark, I just found all the classified 81 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 5: stuff downstairs. And so you could imagine we are curious 82 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 5: what you meant when you said I just found all 83 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 5: the classified stuff downstairs. 84 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 4: I don't I don't remember. I'm not supposed to speculate 85 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 4: right correctly. 86 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I. 87 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 4: Don't remember, and uh, and it may have been. 88 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: I just don't remember. Okay. 89 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 5: Do you remember telling Mark about the handwritten now that 90 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 5: you had written for President Obama? I probably did. 91 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 4: I don't remember specifically, but my guess is I may 92 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 4: have done that. 93 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 5: Okay, do you remember telling him I just found all 94 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 5: the dark classified stuff downstairs? 95 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: Martapt telling Mark? Do you remember saying that to him? 96 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 5: No? Okay, do you remember actually finding any classified stuff downstairs? 97 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 4: No. 98 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 3: We appreciate very much your willingness and hope they'll need 99 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 3: to they pull up with your best efforts and really 100 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: try to make your best revelation in response to the 101 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 3: questions we asked. 102 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: Because I acknowledge that some of the questions we are asking. 103 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: Great Two, that's that happened years ago. We're the young 104 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: wad so it's. 105 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 4: Not a wrong. 106 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 7: This is the primal scream of a dying regie. 107 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 8: Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on 108 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 8: these people. 109 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 7: There's not got a free shot. 110 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 8: And all these networks lying about the people, the people 111 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 8: have had a belly full of it. 112 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 7: I know you don't like hearing that. 113 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 8: I know you've tried to do everything in the world 114 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 8: to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. 115 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 7: It's going to happen. 116 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: And where do people like that go to share the 117 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: big line? Mega media? 118 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 2: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of 119 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: these people had a conscience. 120 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 8: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? 121 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: That answer is to save my country. 122 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 7: This country will be saved. 123 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: War Room. 124 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 7: Here's your host, Stephen K. 125 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 5: Bath. 126 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 7: It's Saturday, seventeen May. 127 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 8: You're over Lord, twenty twenty five blockbuster tape put out 128 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 8: last night, first in about a four four and a 129 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 8: half minute clip, and then later in the evening put 130 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 8: out exclusively at Axios. 131 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 7: The reporter's Mark Capudo. He joins us. 132 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 8: Now, Mark, first off, how many years have you been 133 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 8: a reporter? 134 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: Sir? 135 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: I guess I'm old ast the hills since nineteen ninety six, 136 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: and you do the math. 137 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 8: So you've been doing this a couple of three years, 138 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 8: right a little bit. How is this the Is this 139 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 8: one of the biggest blockbuster stories you've ever handled? Because dude, 140 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 8: this is so much bigger than Watergate. I'm actually gobsmacked 141 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 8: on your first clip, and then when I heard the 142 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 8: whole thing. Is this the biggest scandal you've ever handled 143 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 8: in your life? 144 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: I don't know what biggest scandal, but it's a huge 145 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: news story because it speaks to all of these different 146 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,559 Speaker 2: themes and elements that had been discussed in the twenty 147 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: twenty campaign, twenty twenty four, and then after which was 148 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen, even to a degree, which is Joe. 149 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: Biden decided to run, and there were persistent. 150 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: Questions about his age and his administration, and his campaign 151 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: did a very effective job putting up stuff guardrails around him, 152 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: bubble wrapping him up, and also relying in some cases 153 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: on very skillfully placed stories, for instance that he had 154 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 2: stuttered to explain how he. 155 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: Had lost some of his edge to put a general And. 156 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: Now, after the Biden White House had refused to release 157 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: these tapes, the Biden Department of Justice and refused to 158 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: release these tapes. Have been sitting down with this special prosecutor, 159 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: we now actually hear for the first time. It adds 160 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 2: a real dimension to that discussion that happened that day 161 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 2: that we just didn't hear before. And some of it 162 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: is just the normal stuff of asking anybody, hey, what 163 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: happened a few years ago, Like I couldn't remember how 164 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: long I've been a report, But when you listen to 165 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 2: some sections of it, it's just very, very surprising at 166 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 2: how Joe Biden was unable to answer certain just basic questions. 167 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 2: Will recall certain basic dates, namely the death of his son, 168 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: the year Donald Trump was elected, when he left his 169 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: vice president, and you can just hear in his voice 170 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 2: that it's just not the same guy who was a 171 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 2: vice president or even to a degree, who had first 172 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: run for president in twenty twenty At that point in 173 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,599 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, when he had sat down with the 174 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 2: special prosecutor, it's a pretty clear that as the prosecutor 175 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: had said he was an old man, and the prosecutor 176 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 2: said he was a simple he would be seen by 177 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: jurors as. 178 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: A sympathetic old man. 179 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: And that's part of the reason with a bad memory, 180 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: essentially that he wouldn't be prosecutor, and Democrats at the 181 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 2: time just attacked the special prosecutor. 182 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: Pials, you know, attack the press for reporting of that one. 183 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: Now we hear for the first time that Robert Herber 184 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 2: accurately described what he heard, because now we can hear 185 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: it too. 186 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 8: By the way, this interview with her took correct man 187 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 8: from wrong eight October of twenty twenty three, So it's 188 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 8: just really a year after he gets into the hustings 189 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 8: with Trump, trying to take on Trump, I guess in 190 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 8: July and dropping out. What's donned me is that Robert Herr, 191 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 8: if you just step back for a second, Robert Hurr 192 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 8: sounds like a a resident or an intern, or a 193 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 8: young doctor at a facility for older folks, really guiding 194 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 8: somebody through. I mean, this is not what you consider 195 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 8: a prosecutorial deposition. He's not coming on hard, he's almost 196 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 8: trying to guide. And I'm just saying he's being unprofessional, 197 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 8: but he's being quite gentle on what obviously is a 198 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 8: frail old man in front of him. 199 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 7: Is that not the way you perceive it. 200 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: Well, there's two prosecutors who appear in this state or 201 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 2: who You could hear the one initially who is asking 202 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 2: him just sort of the basic foundation questions of the documentation, 203 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: which promptin find's response about Bow and all of those 204 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 2: memory lattes. That was Robert hur And the second prosecutor 205 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: is a guy named Mark Crickbound. And yes, both of 206 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 2: them were very friendly, very gentle, even Krickbaum. He's the 207 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 2: guy who sort of catches Biden so to speed, in 208 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: these two sort of inconsistencies. 209 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: Biden at one point says like, I don't know. 210 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 2: Why I kept it all this stuff, and then Krickbaum's like, well, 211 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 2: you know you talked about this with Bob Woodward and 212 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 2: these other journalists. Do you think he might have kept 213 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 2: it for posterity sake? And the reason krikbamb was asking 214 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 2: that is to lay the foundation for the fact that 215 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 2: Biden knew he had classified documents and decided to keep 216 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 2: them and that was an intent crime, so to speak, 217 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 2: or it could be an intent crime. And then you 218 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: hear Biden's lawyer, Bob Bauer kind of quickly jump in 219 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: at a certain point and we document this in our 220 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 2: story at that tales and sort of get a little 221 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 2: testing and like, hey, look, the president has answered what 222 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 2: his answered, don't ask him anymore. Later on Krickbaum, in 223 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 2: a very again gentle fashion, points out, Hey, we have 224 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 2: these tapes of you talking to your ghostwriter for your 225 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 2: book promised me, Dad, And in that recording made by 226 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: your ghostwriter review you said, I found all the classified 227 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:12,719 Speaker 2: stuff downstairs. 228 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: Like what, Gibbs, you would like to know more about it? 229 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 2: Biden, Now we can't see it, it's just audio, essentially 230 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 2: turns to his lawyer. 231 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 1: He audioly turns to his lawyer and. 232 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 2: Says, well, I'm you know, I'm kind of not. 233 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: He doesn't quite say I'm not supposed to answer that, 234 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: but he gives a very loyally response and his lawyer 235 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 1: backs him up. 236 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 2: But in both of those cases, Robert Herr, who is 237 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: just trying to establish just basic foundation of where are 238 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 2: your desks, where are your file cabinets, how do the 239 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: file cabinets and desks wind up in your various offices 240 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 2: and homes, and how do these classified documents wind up 241 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 2: in those pieces of furniture, he just had a very 242 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: difficult time doing it. 243 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: In both cases. 244 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: However, these guys are very friendly, they're very respectful, they 245 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: understand they're interviewing the president. The president's lawyer, Bob Bauer 246 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: calls the special prosecutor rob Or Robert doesn't call him 247 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 2: mister her and he calls Mark Krukbaum the other prosecutor Mark. 248 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: So it's very familiar and very friendly, to be honest. 249 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 2: That's one of the things that makes it surprising to 250 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: see Democrats afterwards say that they're politically motivated. 251 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: It just wasn't the case. 252 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, marketing hanger. One second, we'll take a short commercial break. 253 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 8: Mark Capudo a reporter from nineteen ninety six, at least 254 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 8: nineteen ninety six. 255 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 7: We're doing this couple of. 256 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 8: Three years at Axios, one of the main folks over there. 257 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 8: A blockbuster news story that is a the dominant news 258 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 8: story this morning throughout the world. To her interview with 259 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 8: Joe Biden from eight October of twenty twenty three. Short 260 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 8: commercial break. We're also going to go to the Vatican 261 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 8: with Ben Harnwell. Shortly stick around. 262 00:14:53,280 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 7: You're in the Word America. Here's your host, Stephen k Back. 263 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 8: Okay, we're with Mark Caputo of Axios. The Jim Vander 264 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 8: Hey Mike Allen site that is kind of the conventional 265 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 8: the Washington Consensus news site here that kind of drives 266 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 8: the drives the conversation, the narrative every day. Caputo, you 267 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 8: are one of the most respected guys in town. Is 268 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 8: being as close to even handed as the mainstream you 269 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 8: can get. But I think people, how did Mark Caputo 270 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 8: in Axios end up with a with a tape that 271 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 8: I don't know may evolve into a scandal the scale 272 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 8: of Watergate, Sir, I. 273 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 2: Would say two reasons. One is the Wayne Gretzky rule. 274 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 2: You missed one hundred percent of the shots you don't take, 275 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: and we asked, we just took the shot. And then secondly, 276 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: my co author on this, Alex Thompson, has co authored 277 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 2: a book that talks about the cover up from the 278 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 2: Biden operation of his age, and combined with sort of 279 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 2: both of our reputations and the fact that we had 280 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: said early on I asked started asking for this on 281 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 2: January twenty second of the new administration, no one had 282 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: really been paying attention to it. They said, yeah, sure, 283 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 2: understand that when we asked for these tapes, like no 284 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: one at the Department of Justice knew where they were, 285 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: they had to go track them down. It prompted an 286 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: actual search to just locate these things and figure out 287 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 2: if the tape matches the transcript, and then how to 288 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 2: release it, and the rest is history. 289 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 8: Hang on, hold, stop, stop, you're telling me in the 290 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 8: landing team, in the beachhead team they're supposed to do 291 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 8: in the transition that are supposed to do the change 292 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 8: of command, that this was not like in like the 293 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 8: top two or three things on the checklist that they said, okay, 294 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 8: her tapes over here. Let's storm that the beachhead and 295 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 8: landing teams didn't have those readily ofailable. 296 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: I can't speak to that, but I can tell you 297 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 2: that the people I spoke to the Department of Justice 298 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 2: at the White House, including those at some of the 299 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 2: most senior levels, had no idea where these things were. 300 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 2: Some of them had been like, oh yeah, yeah, sure 301 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 2: we'll we'll we'll get them to you. We just need 302 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: to find them. Then, yeah, this is like January twenty 303 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 2: seconds the first I asked. I called back a week later, 304 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 2: They're like, still looking, So they had to track them down. 305 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: I have a feeling I was led at one point 306 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: to believe that they weren't even at DOJET. Now I 307 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 2: can't confirm that was unable to confirm it, but it 308 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 2: just gives you an idea of this sort of mad 309 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 2: dash that they've been through, sort of looking through file 310 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 2: cabints or picking up the phone calling people like, hey, 311 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 2: who's got the tape? Well, eventually they got the tape 312 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 2: and eventually came to us, Caputa. 313 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 8: When's the first time that you and Alex actually had 314 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 8: a chance to listen to When's the first time that 315 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 8: you had a chance to listen to these tapes? 316 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: Tuesday? I think I'm. 317 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 2: Losing track of days here. Yeah, Tuesday is when we 318 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 2: started listening to him. 319 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: And what's. 320 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 2: These interviews took place over two days, October eighth and 321 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:20,479 Speaker 2: October ninth, and twenty twenty three. The first day is 322 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 2: where Biden just really doesn't sound with it. Now, that's 323 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 2: the day after October seventh. I would imagine at a 324 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 2: certain point some people will say, well, yeah, he was 325 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 2: tired because he was up all night dealing with the 326 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 2: crisis that unfolded in Israel when amass launched his terrorist 327 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 2: attack October ninth. He's much more with it and much cleaner. 328 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: So there's like a good day Biden and a bad 329 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 2: day Biden. The bad day Biden was day one, and 330 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: I got to tell you, like, that's just painful listening. 331 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 2: You had played that first clip at the top of 332 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 2: the show where he is kind of well fumbling around 333 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 2: in the recesses of his mind to find these words 334 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 2: and figure out these dates, and he's getting an assist 335 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: from his lawyers who sort of take on the role 336 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: of memory caretaker for him. And one of the things 337 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 2: that struck me when I listened to it more closely, 338 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 2: and we wrote about this in Axios, is that this 339 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 2: takes place in the White House map room, and there's 340 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 2: a giant Grandfather clock and you can hear it ticking 341 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 2: in the background, and the ticking is this sort. 342 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: Of metronomic reminder. 343 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: Of the passage of time, and it almost has this 344 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 2: sort of literary device. It's like Edgar Allen Powell or 345 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 2: something where you can just hear this tick talk, this 346 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 2: relentless ticking and talking of time. As Joe Biden is 347 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 2: kind of mumbling and muttering through some of these uncomfortable silences. 348 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: It's difficult to listen to in the literal sense. It's pathetic. 349 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 8: Did as you listen to it, given you've covered this 350 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 8: for a couple of years and you were the first 351 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 8: guy to really hate I want these tapes go to 352 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 8: the White House and Jos Sparta say, hey, put me 353 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 8: the top of list. 354 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 7: I want these to initiate this. 355 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 8: As you were listening to them, did you realize did 356 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 8: you think, hey, I got the goods here? 357 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 7: This is kind of blowing me away. 358 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 2: I was wondering how to write about a guy. How 359 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 2: do you write about uncomfortable silences? 360 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 6: Right? 361 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: I was thinking about it in a very a process 362 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 1: oriented way, but in listening to. 363 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 2: It, it just reminded me of how difficult it was 364 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 2: to cover Biden back in twenty twenty. Part of the 365 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 2: reason that we had gotten these tapes, I said that 366 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: both Alex Thompson and I have our reputations for calling 367 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 2: it as it is, was that I wrote one of 368 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 2: the first stories in the mainstream media with a prior 369 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 2: publication that I worked at in twenty nineteen. 370 00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: Right after Joe Biden noun. 371 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 2: We did a story when I worked at Politico about 372 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 2: whether he was too old. It was pretty clear then 373 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 2: that he was having age problems. But having covered him 374 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 2: then in that campaign and then listening to it now, 375 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:22,479 Speaker 2: it's just sort of blown away that he sounded so 376 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 2: bad on day one, and then I was blown away 377 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 2: that he didn't sound so bad on day two. But 378 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 2: this is something that you see if you have and 379 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 2: you're lucky enough to have aging parents or have had 380 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 2: eight aging grandparents. They have good days, you're like, hey, 381 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 2: they're back. And they have bad days, You're like, oh man, 382 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: this is not good. And you hear both of those 383 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 2: on these tapes. 384 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 8: What do you think as a reporter, as a story unfolds, that. 385 00:21:58,359 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 7: This is going to. 386 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 8: Either lead to investigations or at least inquiries from the 387 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 8: media and others about the Pratorian guard around Biden. And 388 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 8: because when you hear the bad Day, you're sitting there 389 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 8: thinking it's the day after the bad day is the 390 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 8: day after one of the most significant military events, not terrorists, 391 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 8: military events in the history of the modern Middle East. 392 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 8: And you're listening to the commander in chief of the 393 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 8: Armed Forces of the United States, Sir. 394 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that goes through your mind when you 395 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 2: listen to it. I don't know how much this is 396 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 2: going to lead to investigations, but this is I'm shamelessly 397 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 2: plug Alec Thompson and Jay Chapper's book Original Sin. 398 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: This is something that they document pretty clearly in there. 399 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 2: What you are also seeing, because we're in a very fluid, 400 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 2: dynamic political environment and social media, is there is a 401 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 2: democratic backlash or jiu jitsu that's occurring where people are saying, Okay, yeah, sure, 402 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 2: Joe Biden was that, but boy listened to Donald Trump, 403 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: So you're gonna hear more about sort of the conflict 404 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 2: between these two men in that respect or in that 405 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 2: regard playout. But it does clearly call into question the 406 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 2: degree to which Joe Biden was bubble wrapped by his 407 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,239 Speaker 2: administration and his handlers, because it is clear when you 408 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 2: listen to these tapes that the President of the United States. 409 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: Did have handlers, he did have. 410 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 2: People who helped him through sort of basic facts when 411 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 2: he was speaking in candid environments, and learning more about 412 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: those would certainly fulfill or fill out. 413 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: The historic record or the historical record. 414 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 8: Where do you go, I know, you get a bounce, 415 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 8: we get a couple of minutes. Where does Capudo take 416 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 8: this story? You're you're been known as being a pretty 417 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 8: dogged reporter. Alex clearly has written this blockbuster book with 418 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 8: Tapper that'll have to stand, you know, obviously on its merits. 419 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 7: But where do you go with the story. 420 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: Well, I would have to say, stay tuned. I am. 421 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: I am both a full time reporter and I am 422 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: being interviewed right now from a rental home that I'm 423 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,479 Speaker 2: trying to fix up. That's why I kind of look terrible. 424 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 2: So I haven't given it enough thought. 425 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: I will. 426 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 2: I will answer that as honestly as possible. This is 427 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: why I'll never run for elected office, and why I'll 428 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: never be elected if I did. 429 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 7: Capudo. 430 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 8: You know, I don't want to upset you, but you 431 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 8: kind of look the same that I've gotten to know you, 432 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 8: so I don't know. 433 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 7: I wouldn't blame it on the new house. 434 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 2: Okay, Well I don't even have a wireless connection here, 435 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 2: so it's been all choppy. 436 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: Thanks. I got to put in an air conditioner now 437 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: on a wallon. I'm gonna get going. 438 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 8: Mark, where do people go on social media? Over at 439 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 8: acts us to follow this? 440 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: Yep? Uh, Mark with the c at Mark A Caputo. 441 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 2: I'm on Twitter or ex or whatever you call it, 442 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 2: and obviously Axios dot com. 443 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: I have an author page as well. 444 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 8: Mark Computer, thank you very much for taking time away 445 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 8: on a Saturday to uh talk with us here in 446 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 8: the worm. 447 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 7: I appreciate you. 448 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Thanks Steve Bye, thank you. 449 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 7: Wow. 450 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 8: How about the how about the answer the first question? 451 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 8: How did you get this black person tape? 452 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 7: I asked? 453 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 8: This is a lesson for everybody out there, and particularly 454 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 8: young people. Initiate action. You never know how it's going 455 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 8: to play out. Just initiate action, the first one to ask, 456 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 8: and to be persistent and dogged about it. The other 457 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 8: kind of shocker that the uh that the head to 458 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 8: go track it down, just saying Okay, we're gonna take 459 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 8: a short break. We got Harnwell at the Vatican. My 460 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 8: wingman this morning is Dave Bratt. I'm gonna get Dave 461 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 8: in here for his thoughts about this blockbuster story. 462 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 7: Chip Roy's going to join us later about the budget. 463 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 8: We got a special I think, I don't want to 464 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 8: say it's Lazarus, but we've got a special guest. 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Yeah, it is 524 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 6: literally the Champagne of coffee. You coined that phrase, Steve, 525 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 6: and it is. It's a perfect description for our coffee. 526 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 6: Just go to the website, look at the reviews, and 527 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 6: all you have to is read those reviews and then 528 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 6: order it and try it. Is the best coffee out there. 529 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 7: One more time. Where do they go today? 530 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 8: Where they go right now to get this amazing coffee, 531 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 8: the best ever made. 532 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 6: The website is Warpath Dot Coffee Forward slash war Room, 533 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 6: Warpath Dot Coffee Forward slash war Room. And then use 534 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 6: the Warroom discount code and this weekend you'll get twenty 535 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 6: percent off and you gotta try it. Is we have 536 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 6: a seventy percent customer return rate. That's how that's how 537 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 6: good the coffee is. Yeah, there's no gimmicks. It's just 538 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 6: an amazing product. 539 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 8: And for people in the product business, that's stunning. I 540 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 8: mean it's a five x over ten X words and 541 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 8: normally is we got to bounce Tage. 542 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 7: And you got to go back to shooting at your lodge. 543 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 8: Tell those guys, Tell those guys that are drinking the 544 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 8: champagne of coffee. Throw away, Liberate yourself, throw your cream 545 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 8: and sugar away. Thank your brother. Detage Gill amazing from 546 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 8: gunman from Navy Seal Gunman to coffee roaster extraordinariy Dave Bratt. 547 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 7: Here's what's stunning to me. 548 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 8: What's stunning the persistency in capudo to get the story 549 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 8: and to get the tapes is just good old American grit, 550 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 8: and they just put it out there and you can 551 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 8: listen to it, and everybody should listen to it. What 552 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 8: has stunned me is why have we not in panel 553 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 8: of grit? Why is there not a massive investigation. This 554 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 8: was controlled by the partner of Justice, the Department Justice 555 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 8: and President Trump's administration. Why is already not a massive 556 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 8: investigation that's four or five months into the or at 557 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 8: least four months into existence. 558 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 9: Sir, well, I'm hoping that there's a good answer with 559 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 9: bonding and cash government gangsters. 560 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: I'm hoping they have them all lined up, right. 561 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 9: I mean, now we've got Comy with just grotesque, morally 562 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 9: reprehensible actions, and then you got Brennan, you got the CIA. 563 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,479 Speaker 9: All these folks are just lined up, and then the 564 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 9: entire Justice Department, the criminality that ran across the fifty 565 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 9: one intelligence officers. 566 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: Uh. 567 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 7: And I mean, I'm just shocked. 568 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 9: I pay too much attention to the media side, but 569 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,959 Speaker 9: you put your finger on it, right, and the uh, 570 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 9: the left won't even cover it. Right, They're got to 571 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 9: drag you know, comparisons with Trump or whatever. 572 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: A move. 573 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 8: Why was there not but hanging Why was there gonna 574 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 8: move of Kamala Harris, General Austin, the people that saw 575 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 8: him every day on the twenty fifth Amendment? Why would 576 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 8: this This is about the security not just the United 577 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:12,959 Speaker 8: States of America. 578 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 7: This is about the security of the of the world. 579 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 8: Who's to say that infiltration or the Muslim Brotherhood or 580 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 8: whatever knew about how he's impaired, how impaired he was 581 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 8: to uh to initiate, to initiate October seventh in Gaza. 582 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,479 Speaker 8: Who's to say that they knew how impered he was 583 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 8: and how he could make decisions and fumbled everything that 584 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 8: this part drove the Ukraine invasion. I don't know, but 585 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 8: what I do. What I do know is that it 586 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 8: is unacceptable. That is not You listen to those tapes 587 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 8: in her, he's like if you saw one flew over 588 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 8: the cuckoo's nest. He's like one of the assistants there 589 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 8: helping those people through through their day. If you've ever 590 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 8: had a relative in one of these homes that you 591 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 8: go and these very courageous and generous people who are 592 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 8: the assistants or the residents, or the young doctors or 593 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 8: the nurses, they're helping them through the day. That's what 594 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 8: her was so gentle, and the other lawyer was so gentle. 595 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 8: It was like talking to a dementia patients that's got 596 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 8: the beginnings of dementia. They're guiding him through. That's on 597 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 8: the tape. You can't deny that and all the lies 598 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 8: of misrepresentation. This is a scandal, the Dorswartergate. This is 599 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 8: a commander or We've had the beginning of the kinetic 600 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 8: part of the Third World There's no coincidences, folks, They're 601 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 8: no coincidences and no conspiracy. But you can't tell me 602 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 8: that our enemies didn't know they had a guy that 603 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 8: was not up to the task in the inner circle. 604 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 8: At least knew it and knew it every day. He's 605 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 8: commander in chief. This is the big fight in the 606 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 8: Supreme Court from last night. The guy that office is 607 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 8: the commander in chief. They're trying to thwart They're trying 608 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 8: to thwart Trump and they covered up and protected Biden. 609 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 8: He's commander in chief. Where's the twenty fifth Amendment? Where's 610 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 8: Kamala Harris? We have to have a formal inquiry in this. 611 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 8: You have to adjudicate this. This can never be allowed 612 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 8: to happen again. People have to be held accountable. I 613 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 8: would argue, hey, we started the kinetic part of the 614 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 8: Third World War. This is greater than between invasion of 615 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 8: Poland and thirty nine and the Germans going into. 616 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 7: Russia and Operation Barbarossa. 617 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,479 Speaker 8: In forty one, we've killed four or five times more 618 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 8: people than those two years at the beginning of World 619 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 8: War Two? 620 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 7: And he was on watch and who protected him? 621 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 8: And I don't want to hear the happy talk media, Oh, 622 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 8: just trying to screw you. Trump can stand up there 623 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 8: all the time because he's come out and trolling you 624 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 8: guys a third of the time. 625 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 7: That's hiss. 626 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 8: Trump just went to the Middle East and bench pressed everybody. 627 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 7: Don't give me Oh, this is no. 628 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 8: Equivalent here, and you're not going to get away with 629 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 8: the credonnet care about your crappy democratic there. This is 630 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 8: the fricking problem. The fricking problem is we've had these 631 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 8: tapes and the Justice Department for five months and what 632 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 8: the frick is going on? Why is there not a 633 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 8: formal investigation? I don't hear Comer's up yammering again. You 634 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 8: think we're going to hand this over to Comber? 635 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 2: What do you do? 636 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 8: Last time, he wasted a couple of years and then 637 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 8: wrote a book. I don't want another Comber investigation and 638 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 8: then write another book. 639 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 7: I want action. 640 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 8: We need to do this for this republic. This can 641 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 8: never be allowed to happen again. And the way you 642 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 8: stop it, have it, and again you hold the people 643 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 8: that protected him and hid this information as commander in chief, 644 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,280 Speaker 8: Commander in chief of the armed forces with a raging 645 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 8: war going on greater than the kinetic part of the 646 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 8: first couple of years of World War two. 647 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 7: Dave Bratt. Yeah, and more. 648 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 9: Than commander in chief CEO, all the secretaries. Look what 649 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,280 Speaker 9: Trump's doing across all the secretaries now and the chief 650 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 9: magistrate compromised. It shows you the virtue of the friends 651 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 9: set up there too. He didn't have any friends that 652 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 9: stick up for him as a human being, his wife and. 653 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 7: Hang on your hang on, yo, yo, you're losing the plot. 654 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 7: I got it. He's chief executive. Listen, He's totally illegitimate. 655 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 8: Look at Trump's if we put Trump's true social Trumps 656 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 8: going off on his legitimacy in all the issues that 657 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 8: require from his illegitimate because they didn't win twenty twenty. 658 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 8: And you see right now the Praetorian Guard. If you 659 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 8: want to see the deep state in action. They selected 660 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 8: this guy. Why because he's docile, he's an old man. 661 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 8: He's just gonna you just gotta wandering. He's just wandering around. 662 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 2: Ye. 663 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 8: This proves the point, but you've got to now adjudicate it. 664 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 8: You now have to get a platform that people can see, Okay, 665 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 8: we're gonna do this fair, we're gonna have all evidence, witnesses, everything, 666 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 8: but it's got to be adjudicated. It just can't sit 667 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 8: there and to know that we're in May and Axios 668 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 8: breaks it. Where's the investigation? What are you people doing 669 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 8: and where are you spending your time? Because right now 670 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 8: I'm not feeling it. I'm hearing all kind of go 671 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 8: over're doing this. That's great, but somebody's got it. Then 672 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 8: when it comes out with this, then it's coming out 673 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 8: and saying, yeah, we've been an investigation. We've had a 674 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 8: grand jury for the last four months. We're calling witnesses 675 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 8: in uh, we're doing a formal investigation. The FBI is 676 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 8: all over this. We're we're doing real depositions, not her 677 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 8: not guiding some way through. Do you understand if they 678 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 8: had a real prosecutor on this guy, he had a 679 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 8: real prosecutor, he would have cracked, he'd have been it'd 680 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 8: have been all over the floor, been blood everywhere. If 681 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 8: he had had Hey, let him have what I had 682 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 8: with molar For those I don't know thirty hours. Let 683 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 8: him go up to shifty shift in swallwell in the 684 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 8: house intel right. Let him have a real deposition under oath, 685 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 8: with a real prosecutor up in your grill, not playing 686 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 8: patty k and treating you like an old man. 687 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 7: You want a cookie, here's a cookie. How about some milk? Right? 688 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 8: Look like it looked like an assistant at a firm care. 689 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 8: People better get up on this baby, because this is 690 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 8: the thing itself. 691 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 7: You want to see the deep state. You don't think 692 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 7: they selected this client? What did Kapudo said? 693 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 8: The reason I might have gotten this in twenty nineteen, 694 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 8: I wrote an article how he was having senior moments 695 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 8: at the time. That's why they picked him. He was 696 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 8: the least offensive, and he was an old man they 697 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 8: could manage. So let's get the managers. Let's drill down 698 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 8: on the whole thing, because trust me, like Ordergay Boom, 699 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 8: every day, you're gonna have another revelation. It's time to 700 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 8: get We're either real about this or not. We're either 701 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 8: gonna defend. This is not about Trump. This is not 702 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 8: about MAGA, This is not about our movement, This is 703 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 8: not even about the White House. This is about this republic. 704 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 8: We can never allow this to happen again. Why did 705 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 8: Trump say came back and ran? He said that at 706 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 8: Charlie Kirk's at Mfest. He said, I ran because I 707 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 8: knew they had I had won twenty twenty and they 708 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,280 Speaker 8: had stolen it. And he would go against the gates 709 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,800 Speaker 8: of hell. But hell, they're going to put him in 710 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 8: prison for three hundred years. He knew that and bankrupt him. 711 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 8: That was his profile and courage to come back. Where 712 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 8: is our profile and courage about making sure this never 713 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 8: happens again in this republic. The only way you're gonna 714 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 8: do it, You're gonna have some people here that are 715 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 8: behind bars and put it in and break. This is the 716 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 8: tool we need to break the deep state. 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Dave 773 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,280 Speaker 8: Bratt your thoughts observation, sir. 774 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 9: Well, I like your rant, and unfortunately the Congress and 775 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 9: the Senate's not ranting about anything. It's just business as usual. 776 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 9: It appears across the board. And so I hate to 777 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 9: say it, but this will change. This is a huge revelation. 778 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 9: As you say, it'll spiral out of control. If you 779 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 9: start exploring and expanding and calling people in front of 780 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 9: our committees, our major committees, it'll be information overload with corruption. 781 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 9: And so you know, I hate to ask, but Trump 782 00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 9: is going to have to do a rant on his 783 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 9: own people so they know he wants it. They know 784 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 9: he wants it. But that has to happen, as you say, 785 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 9: when you have the CEO and Commander in chief of 786 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 9: the United States of America, there's no bigger story out 787 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 9: of commission. The reporter didn't want to go all in. 788 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 9: You could see him reticent, but he said he was 789 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 9: bubble wrapped. We had to be with him to support 790 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 9: him on the basic facts. We're talking about the President 791 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,319 Speaker 9: of the United States here. 792 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 7: This is no joke. 793 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,439 Speaker 9: This is it and when you get that chance right there, 794 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 9: and it's not political. This is for the republic, as 795 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 9: you said, you better do the right thing. And then 796 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 9: you got these press guys coming in. You've got Jake 797 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,760 Speaker 9: Tapper saying I could have gone after a little bit further, 798 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 9: and Joe and Mika every morning saying he's at the 799 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 9: top of his metal acuity. And Tapper always says at 800 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 9: the beginning of your show every day, we don't have 801 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 9: a soul. His book is called Original Sin, and he 802 00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 9: is the most arrogant. Arrogance and pride is the original sin. 803 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 9: And the Left needs to be taking a task all 804 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 9: of them. What did you know? When did you know it? 805 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 9: For a change, we had Republicans that actually went up 806 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 9: against Nixon because there's some people of character left back then, 807 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 9: and they acted like cub scouts, not knowing that Nixon 808 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 9: was being taken out. 809 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 7: And so now we know all of it, We know 810 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:20,800 Speaker 7: everything across. 811 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 8: We hammered this every day, Jack Phisoba hammered it every day. 812 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 8: You could tell the guy wasn't up to it. We 813 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 8: kept we kept ranting, where's your twenty fifth Amendment? Why 814 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:33,399 Speaker 8: are you letting this guy? 815 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 7: And here's who knew it. 816 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 8: The Russian You don't think the Russians knew this on 817 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,919 Speaker 8: the EVA rolling in there in twenty two, the whole way. 818 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 8: You don't think the enemies of Israel and the United 819 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 8: States didn't know this before the Muslim Brotherhood moved in 820 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:51,359 Speaker 8: October of Listen, don't take it from me. See what 821 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 8: you see. Listen to it, and just listen to it. 822 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 8: It's an entirety. On the eighth of October of twenty 823 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 8: twenty three, we have a record. This is the day 824 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:06,479 Speaker 8: after the attack happened. That's your commander in chief. That's 825 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 8: your commander in chief. And if he had had a prosecutor, 826 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:17,400 Speaker 8: you know that that was getting down on it. He 827 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 8: would have been ripped apart. He'd been all over, he 828 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 8: had been he'd been all over the floor. They treated him, 829 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 8: they treated him like they were they were hospital attendants 830 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 8: in a nursing home. And Merrick Garland correct me if 831 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,320 Speaker 8: I'm wrong. I don't want to bring up a sore subject, 832 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,760 Speaker 8: but I think I went to prison for four months 833 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,720 Speaker 8: on a misdemeanor for defying a subpoena that Merrick Garland 834 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 8: prosecuted me personally and didn't the Congress come to him 835 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,360 Speaker 8: about this. Where's Merek Garland? Why is Merek Garland not 836 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 8: going to pay a penalty for this? Why he's not 837 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 8: going to pay a price for this. I'm not about vengeance, 838 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 8: I'm not about come retribution. That has nothing to do 839 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 8: with it. This is about this republic. We cannot allow 840 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 8: this to stand. Everybody associated with this has got to 841 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 8: be called in in question under oath. We got to 842 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 8: get to the bottom of this, how he was selected, 843 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 8: how they bubble wrapped him. What else do we don't 844 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,360 Speaker 8: know they kept it from We need to grill these people. 845 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 8: And hey, if the Justice Department can't do it and 846 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 8: the FBI can't do it, then get a special prosecutor 847 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 8: and let's roll. 848 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 7: They set up our. 849 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 8: Special prosecutor for this the first time on the classified 850 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 8: documents against him. There's a big there's a much bigger 851 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 8: story here. And I'm shocked that Merrek Garland, listening to 852 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,360 Speaker 8: this tape, didn't He kept saying that I'm totally independent. 853 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 8: You're not independent, You're a hack, and no offense. He 854 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,959 Speaker 8: should be charged with crimes right now of a conspiracy 855 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,720 Speaker 8: to conceal this from the American people. 856 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 7: Don't take it from me. 857 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 8: Listen to the tape and write in your calendar eight 858 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 8: October twenty twenty three, less than twenty four hours after 859 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 8: the attack of the Muslim Brotherhood Nomasa in Israel. And 860 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 8: this is your commander in chief. This is the guy 861 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 8: calling the shots. This is the guy making the final 862 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 8: You know all the movies, they're all down in the 863 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 8: situation room. And you know Joe Biden's he knows so 864 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,720 Speaker 8: much and he's so much better than Trump and Trump. 865 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 8: Issa Erratick compare this in the heat of battle to 866 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 8: Donald Trump in the Middle East this week. 867 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,280 Speaker 7: Do you know I kept telling you. 868 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 8: That one of the reasons they people I used to 869 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 8: harpen this all the time, that the people throughout the world, 870 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 8: the the elites throughout the world knew he wasn't legitimate. 871 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,240 Speaker 7: They didn't treat legitimate. 872 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 8: Remember when he rides up in the suv to NBS 873 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 8: and they give the little fist bump because they're dismissing him. 874 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,920 Speaker 8: They knew exactly this. He was placed in by the 875 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 8: Pertorian Guard. If you want to break the Praetorian guards 876 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:51,800 Speaker 8: hold on this empire which they have the deep State, 877 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 8: the way you break it is you use this as 878 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,880 Speaker 8: the instrument. You use this as the instrument, and you 879 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 8: do a full and deep investigation. You make them lawyer up, 880 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 8: you make them spend all their money. Right, you strip 881 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,840 Speaker 8: them of all their security clearances. In the process. You 882 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 8: make sure they're so radioactive as you as they testify 883 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,759 Speaker 8: that no company will ever retain them as consultant, because 884 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 8: that's how they put their snout in the trough. 885 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:16,839 Speaker 7: Right. 886 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 8: You toxify these people, because they need to be toxified. 887 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 7: They put this country. 888 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 8: Every parent out there that's got a kid in the 889 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,839 Speaker 8: armed forces, that was your commander in chief, that's your 890 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,880 Speaker 8: commander in chief. And everybody that said on the debate 891 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 8: with Trump, oh he just had a bad day. No, 892 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 8: that's every day, except you know, the next day they 893 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,759 Speaker 8: juice him up, they jack him up on something for 894 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,760 Speaker 8: a couple hours, and Jill pats him on the head. 895 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 7: Okay, short commercial break. We've got a surprise guest. We're 896 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,439 Speaker 7: going to try to get tripoy. Brett. 897 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,240 Speaker 8: You're gonna stick around. You're a good foil today, Brett 898 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 8: take the crap. Short break back in a moment