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Speaker 1: Alrighty everyone, welcome once again to Big Blue Kickoff live

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Speaker 1: here on Giants dot Com. The number has always is

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Speaker 1: two oh one four five one three. I am Rus Salzburg,

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Speaker 1: joined today by Lance Meadow and it is a happy Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: The Giants have won three last night. As I'm sure

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Speaker 1: all of you Giants fans are well aware, they got

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Speaker 1: off the Schneider and and Lance um. You know, watching

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Speaker 1: the guys on the post game, it was like watching

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Speaker 1: a bunch of kids who just won the Peewee championship.

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Speaker 1: And I mean that in such a positive way because

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Speaker 1: it was that exuberance, the happiness of I mean, from

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Speaker 1: O'Dell to Eli, I saw Angram and and Shepherd. They

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Speaker 1: would just you can tell we could breathe. It's it's

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Speaker 1: not all is not fixed. What we can breathe, we

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Speaker 1: can you know. As O'Dell said after the game, it

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Speaker 1: would have been a long ride home, long flight home,

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Speaker 1: five six hours coming back, and I'm sure it was

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Speaker 1: a very enjoyable, very enjoyable flight. Guys were pumped up,

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Speaker 1: so listen, like I say, all is not fixed, but

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Speaker 1: they got the job done. Eli got the job done.

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Speaker 1: O'Dell got the job done. There was certainly. Uh, the

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Speaker 1: offensive line, there was an improvement jim on Jumon Brown

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Speaker 1: Brown clearly, uh, you know for his initial Uh, his

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Speaker 1: debut helped and they kept Eli upright, Eli had time

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Speaker 1: and they won the game. A win is a win,

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Speaker 1: you know, hundreds, right, Russ. Was it a perfect performance? No,

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Speaker 1: but you don't get brownie points in terms of how

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Speaker 1: you win the game. All that matters is you finished

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Speaker 1: on top of the team that you played, and they

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Speaker 1: did by four points. And to your point, listen, they

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Speaker 1: went five straight games without a win. That's a very

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Speaker 1: long time in the National Football League, considering you play

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Speaker 1: one game per week. They also had to buy in

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Speaker 1: the mid it so this was a long time coming.

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Speaker 1: And this was a Niners team that had just as

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Speaker 1: many question marks and just as many issues as the

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Speaker 1: New York Giants. So, you know, certainly a step in

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Speaker 1: the right direction. You hit on a few things that

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Speaker 1: I think we're encouraging to take away from this game.

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Speaker 1: Rus number one, And we've been talking about this all season.

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Speaker 1: When you give your quarterback protection, you see what happens. Now.

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Speaker 1: I know there's gonna be a lot of callers and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna claim, well, you know, let's not all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden start a new narrative that Eli Manning is

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Speaker 1: going to continue to do this moving forward. But he

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Speaker 1: deserves credit for taking advantage of solid pass protection on

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Speaker 1: Monday night. And when you give your quarterback time, whether

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to survey the field and make plays down

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Speaker 1: the field. And that play that you were talking about

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Speaker 1: Jimmon Brown when he was inserted, it did not take

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Speaker 1: long rust to see what he could do on that

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Speaker 1: very first pass to Odell Beckham for a touchdown. When

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Speaker 1: Jimon Brown takes away the defensive tackle for the Niners.

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Speaker 1: He pushes him towards Chad Wheeler, then Cassie marsh the

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Speaker 1: defensive end comes to the interior. Brown moves him out

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Speaker 1: or two to survey the field and he hits Odell

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Speaker 1: that was an immediate difference maker. And pass protection was

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Speaker 1: The question is can they now continue to build upon

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Speaker 1: that or was that simply a flash because the Niners

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Speaker 1: but I don't think. Listen, seeing some of the guys

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Speaker 1: was back to business. They're getting ready. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: just as they say, you don't dwell on a loss.

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Speaker 1: You can't sit and rest on your laurels over a victory.

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Speaker 1: You gotta go head and prepare and take care of business.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there were a few things. Listen. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: Now I would say this, uh, one of the things

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Speaker 1: If they don't respect you, and we would talk about

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Speaker 1: well then you you play action really doesn't exist. They're

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Speaker 1: You know, you do have a superstar running back. There

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Speaker 1: when the ball is in uh Odell Beckham Odell Beckham

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Speaker 1: give him a closet, you know, let let him have

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Speaker 1: something to go through. But yes, yes, last night was

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Speaker 1: I was getting a little nervous, I don't know about you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the third down efficiency of was a little

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Speaker 1: it wasn't like wow, they would making spectacular plays on

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Speaker 1: third down. They were wide open. So you know, that

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Speaker 1: I mean, that Kittle tight end is pretty formidable. Well,

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Speaker 1: that wasn't necessarily a surprise, but I would agree with

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Speaker 1: you RUSS. San Francisco was eight of thirteen. Now why

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Speaker 1: were they eight of thirteen? Why was Nick Mullins making

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Speaker 1: not record one sack against the Niners offensive line RUSS

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Speaker 1: that had surrendered thirty one sacks. This was an offensive

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Speaker 1: and that's why I think Nick Mullins was extremely comfortable.

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Speaker 1: He was able to survey the field and they were

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Speaker 1: extremely efficient on third down. The other thing to note,

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Speaker 1: And if you remember us when James Betcher spoke to

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Speaker 1: that was exactly what happened last night. Again, where to

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Speaker 1: Now the Niners are marching down the field some past plays.

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Speaker 1: You had the penalty against Lorenzo Carter, which I think

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Speaker 1: the Giants have a little bit more consistent pass rush

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Speaker 1: without question, I'll tell you what though, and you're right

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Speaker 1: whatever the hell it is. That rule is a very

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Speaker 1: you're coming with force. Of course. It's just very, very

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Speaker 1: very hard to call. Like there was one um one

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Speaker 1: from a defensive perspective, the pass rusher, it's very difficult

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Speaker 1: them to the side. It's a bank bank play, And

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Speaker 1: that's what it was with Lorenzo Carter. But I think

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Speaker 1: there's a distinct difference between saying maybe the rule is

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Speaker 1: not great, but the call was correct on the field.

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Speaker 1: And I think with the Lorenzo Carter play rush the

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Speaker 1: rewritten well, and that's what they're doing. Listen, the Competition

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Speaker 1: oh one, five one, three is the number. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to rose Hill check in with Jimmy. Jimmy, you're on

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Speaker 1: with Russ and Lance. How you doing today, Hey guys,

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Speaker 1: how are you? Um? Pleasure to listen to you as

433
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Speaker 1: always having called in a while, and but nonetheless I

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Speaker 1: enjoy your show every every week. I just want to

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Speaker 1: comment a little bit about the offensive line. It's a

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Speaker 1: position near and deed of my own heart, having played

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Speaker 1: in high school and college. And I focused a lot

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Speaker 1: on m last night to take the game. Watched it

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Speaker 1: again this morning, and you know, I thought that there

440
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Speaker 1: you know, there were there were sometimes obviously they got

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Speaker 1: a little pressure up the middle. But I thought Brown

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Speaker 1: for the most part, UH did a decent job. And

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Speaker 1: what impressed me the most, I think was the h

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Speaker 1: that seems to be a last night anyway, the middle

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Speaker 1: of the line held up. I mean, Eli, I think

446
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Speaker 1: like most quarterbacks, you know, they do not like the

447
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Speaker 1: pressure up the middle. There were a couple of plays

448
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Speaker 1: where guys got pushed back, but I mean for the

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Speaker 1: most part, I focused on the center and the two guards,

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Speaker 1: and I thought the center of the line last night,

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Speaker 1: UM what I thought there was a significant difference in

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Speaker 1: the play and the performance of the line in that

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Speaker 1: particular part of the line that I've seen in the

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Speaker 1: entire year, you know. And I think Brown did a

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Speaker 1: really really good job of you know, considering in fact

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Speaker 1: he's you know, he's still wept behind the ears in

457
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Speaker 1: terms of his UH time with the Giants. I thought,

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Speaker 1: I saw a noticeable difference last night, and I was

459
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Speaker 1: I was encouraged by it. Um and the other thing too,

460
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Speaker 1: when they talked something. I looked at the yardage rushing

461
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Speaker 1: and they were I think Sake wanted sixty seven seven

462
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Speaker 1: yards somewhere in that neighborhood. But I both I think

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Speaker 1: both he and Goldman. There were a couple of times

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Speaker 1: when when there were there were scenes there that the

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Speaker 1: running backs didn't see. I rememb there's a play I

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Speaker 1: think it was in the second quarter, might have been

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Speaker 1: in the first Goldman took a bounced it outside and

468
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Speaker 1: if he just put his foot down at the hash

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Speaker 1: mark there and went up, he was looking at a

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Speaker 1: good six or seven yard game. So people complain about,

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Speaker 1: you know, the offensive line, you know, not doing their jobs.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes they do and and the it's the running backs

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Speaker 1: forth and not necessarily picking up the whole world's there.

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Speaker 1: But but in general, I was I was really encouraged

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Speaker 1: by what I saw from the line in general, and

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Speaker 1: those three guys in the middle in particular. I like

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Speaker 1: to hear your thoughts on that as well. Well, Well, Jimmy,

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Speaker 1: you know, that was pretty a stud of you to

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Speaker 1: come up with, you know, the guys in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the offensive line. Because I don't know we had

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Speaker 1: this discussion. I don't forget who we were discussing it with,

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Speaker 1: but we had this discussion last week. You know a

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Speaker 1: lot of people, you know, some of the criticism Nate Soldier. Uh,

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Speaker 1: somebody pointed out, and it was a fair point. I

485
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Speaker 1: think you've heard this lance that Nate Soldier was not

486
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Speaker 1: planning any different that he played with the Patriots. He

487
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Speaker 1: is the difference, you know, he's pushing somebody to the outside.

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Speaker 1: When he was with the Patriots, Brady had the ability

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Speaker 1: to step up because there was a place to step

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Speaker 1: up into. Pretty much the first eight games of the season,

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Speaker 1: there hasn't been places for Eli to step up into.

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Speaker 1: Last night, there was there were that that was a

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Speaker 1: significant difference. That's why he had time. So yeah, Jimmy,

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Speaker 1: you're right, my friend, And and thanks for the call.

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Speaker 1: That's a good point that you brought up. It all,

496
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Speaker 1: you know, as they say, it's the old business, it's

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Speaker 1: all cohesiveness, it all has to work together. Last night

498
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Speaker 1: was the first time I really I think you really

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Speaker 1: could say the offensive line was really working together. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, based on what the last color was bringing up,

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Speaker 1: it starts on the interior of the offensive line, because

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Speaker 1: if you allow penetration up the middle what you were

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Speaker 1: referring to Russ, then all of a sudden, the defensive

504
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Speaker 1: ends are gonna come from the sides and where's the

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Speaker 1: quarterback gonna go? So keep in mind, Spencer Pulley is

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Speaker 1: the third different center that the Giants are utilizing this season.

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Speaker 1: You had John hallape Oh, he goes down against the Cowboys,

508
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Speaker 1: then John Greco steps in for him, and then as

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Speaker 1: a result of changes at right guard, they moved Greco

510
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Speaker 1: out and Pully comes in and Pullice started sixteen games

511
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Speaker 1: with the Chargers. Chargers decided to go with Mike Pouncey

512
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Speaker 1: this offseason. That's what made fully expendable and just like

513
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: Jimon Brown became expendable when the Rams decided to go

514
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Speaker 1: in a different direction. So the Giants now have two

515
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Speaker 1: guys that are still relatively new but have plenty of

516
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Speaker 1: starting experience under their belt. And we'll see whether or

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Speaker 1: not Jimon Brown and Spencer Pully playing next to one

518
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Speaker 1: another for the next few games can continue to build

519
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: some chemistry. And while it's still a small sample size,

520
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: and the Niners have some pretty good interior defensive lineman

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Speaker 1: like DeForrest Buckner, So you know, this to me is

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Speaker 1: not oh well, you know the Niners are not good.

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Speaker 1: So let's not all of a sudden give these guys credit.

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Speaker 1: That was a tough pass rush that they went up against.

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Speaker 1: Niners have a number of former first round picks. They

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Speaker 1: took first round picks in fifteen, sixteen, and seventeen and

527
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Speaker 1: used it on defensive lineman or pass rushers. But the

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Speaker 1: only thing I will point out is it's gonna get

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Speaker 1: challenging russ as we move forward here. They still got

530
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Speaker 1: Tennessee on the schedule. They got Chicago on the schedule,

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Speaker 1: where you've got a significant upgrade in terms of the

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Speaker 1: pass rush department, and it's gonna be a big test

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Speaker 1: for the Giants interior line. But I do think that

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Speaker 1: not allowing guys up the gut last night allowed Eli

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Speaker 1: to ride the pocket. That's why the first thing I

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Speaker 1: saw on that first Beckham touch down is Brown pushed

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Speaker 1: them out. And you know, you didn't see Beckham with

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Speaker 1: the happy feat. You didn't see Manning with the defeat,

539
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Speaker 1: which we've seen it sometimes. He stayed cool, calm, collected,

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Speaker 1: went back and forth, rode that pocket, and I gave

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Speaker 1: him time to step into his throw and hit back up.

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Speaker 1: Two O one five one three is the number. Let's

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Speaker 1: now go down to Columbia, Maryland check in with our

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Speaker 1: friend Len Hello Land you're on with Russ and Lance today.

545
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Speaker 1: Hey guys, how you doing? How are you doing today? Hell,

546
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Speaker 1: that's a nice win last night, Russ. Yes, it was.

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Speaker 1: That's that's a nice win. That felt good. That felt good.

548
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Speaker 1: Maybe we can get to in a row here. I

549
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: can't remember the last time we won two in a row.

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Speaker 1: But uh, you know, at home against Tampa, that's uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm thinking positive about that. I think

552
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: Lance was right. We got some tough games going forward,

553
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Speaker 1: but I think Tampa is one of those games coming

554
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Speaker 1: home after win, um against the team that uh really

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Speaker 1: uh you know, you can you can. You can put

556
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Speaker 1: points up against Tampa. Absolutely, they can also put points

557
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: up against and they should. You know, if if o'del,

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Speaker 1: if if O'Dell has a chance to catch one more

559
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Speaker 1: than he did last night in the form of touchdown passes,

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Speaker 1: I think it's probably Sunday against Stampa. Um, so that

561
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Speaker 1: should so that should that should be fun and it

562
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Speaker 1: would be nice to see a home win. Nice to

563
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Speaker 1: see a home win, you know. Um, I want to

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Speaker 1: talk about the run defense. Um no, No, I'm not

565
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Speaker 1: going to start negatively. I'm gonna I'm gonna start out positively. Um,

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Speaker 1: I was really impressed last night. I was beginning to

567
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Speaker 1: lose confidence confidence in Ingram and um, you know that

568
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Speaker 1: to fourth quarter catches. Wow, you saw the hands. Uh,

569
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Speaker 1: you saw the explosion, you saw the speed down the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: I thought to myself, Oh my god, that's a that's

571
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Speaker 1: a different Evan Ingram. I think going forward, I think

572
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Speaker 1: the second half of the season. I think he's healthy.

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Speaker 1: I think the second half of the season. Half think

574
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Speaker 1: Ingram is uh is really gonna turn it up a notch. Well,

575
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Speaker 1: you know, I took. I felt good about him last night.

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Speaker 1: The one thing that Pat Sherman has stressed, you know, continuously, uh,

577
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Speaker 1: never wavered from it. You know, Listen, there's been some

578
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Speaker 1: fair criticism of Ingram simply because drops this is the NFL.

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Speaker 1: You're not on scholarship. You paid to catch the ball,

580
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Speaker 1: you know, and especially when they go through their hands

581
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Speaker 1: and you know on a crucial fourth and three, which

582
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Speaker 1: what happened, you know it lingers. But one thing Sherman says,

583
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Speaker 1: nobody works harder at catching the ball than Evan Ingram,

584
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Speaker 1: and which is which is saying a lot because to me,

585
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Speaker 1: nobody works harder on the team than Odell Beckham Jr.

586
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Speaker 1: So the fact that he would just say that, you know,

587
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Speaker 1: is a plus. And you know, I'm sure nobody's gonna

588
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Speaker 1: want to admit it, but you know what, I'm sure

589
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: his confidence wavered or he's a little down on himself.

590
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Speaker 1: So you know, you said, it's not only that the

591
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Speaker 1: coming off of a win, but they're coming off of

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Speaker 1: a win to face Tampa feeling good about themselves. And

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Speaker 1: what else, they're healthy. Yeah, they're the healthiest healthy as

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Speaker 1: we've been in years at this point in the season,

595
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Speaker 1: at this point in the scene. Well, they had seven

596
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Speaker 1: healthy scratches in the game because he didn't have to

597
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Speaker 1: make any decisions based on injury. And you know the

598
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Speaker 1: other thing line before we let you continue on the

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Speaker 1: tight end position, I'm looking at the snap count from

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Speaker 1: last night and interestingly, having Ingram only played three more

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Speaker 1: snaps than Rhet Ellison. So the point is Rhett Ellison

602
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: was actually on the field a lot last night. And

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Speaker 1: if you also notice they utilize the fullback Elijah Penny,

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Speaker 1: that to me was a noticeable difference in terms of

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Speaker 1: alignment in personnel usage. And that doesn't mean that they

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Speaker 1: don't have confidence in Evan Ingram but they went with

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Speaker 1: their strong blockers last night to complement the offensive line. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and that that that fullback. Um, you know, we're starting

609
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Speaker 1: to get some numbers out of the fullback position. And

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're gonna play eleven guys, use eleven guys.

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Speaker 1: You know, I could agree with you more. By the way,

612
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Speaker 1: an answer to your question, the last time the Giants

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Speaker 1: won two games in a row was the end of

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Speaker 1: the two thousand and sixteen season in December. It was

615
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Speaker 1: December eleventh, they beat the Cowboys ten seven, and then

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Speaker 1: on the eighteenth they took care of the Lion seventeen

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Speaker 1: to six. There you go. Thank you for that for

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Speaker 1: that stat one a couple of other players that kind

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Speaker 1: of impressed me last night that you know, I think

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Speaker 1: stood out. You know, I'll get a lot of argument

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Speaker 1: on this statement, but I've been saying this since the

622
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Speaker 1: offseason in trying to get the Giants to resign Odell.

623
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Speaker 1: I wanted him to do that very badly. He I

624
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Speaker 1: don't want to discuss this for too long because there's

625
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: a lot of ways to argue this, but he's the

626
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Speaker 1: best player in the NFL. Odell Beckham is the best

627
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Speaker 1: player in the NFL. I mean they he's just fabulous.

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Speaker 1: You know, you talk about generational players, this this guy

629
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Speaker 1: is really good. All right, an upset on Odell on

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Speaker 1: the defensive side. You know, I've been I've been saying

631
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Speaker 1: this since since training camp and the preseason. This this guy,

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Speaker 1: Josh Morral, he is one tough dude. Yes he is,

633
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Speaker 1: you know what. And he brings a tude an attitude. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I saw that on the field. You can't have enough

635
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Speaker 1: of those. On defense, you really can't have enough of those. Hey, Lance,

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Speaker 1: you know you made a comment um early in the

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Speaker 1: show on the on the car to play on on

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Speaker 1: his penalty and uh, and you know it's it's tough

639
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Speaker 1: for defensive players. I mean, one thing they're taught is

640
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Speaker 1: to arrive angry. I mean, you know you can you

641
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: can't tell a guy that, you know, tone it down

642
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: a bit. It's just it's where the league is. It

643
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: was I thought it was a penalty, but man, it's

644
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: it's tough on those right from the beginning. They're taught

645
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: to arrive at the ball angry. Well, I think lend

646
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: the biggest challenges. Yes, they are taught to arrive angry finish,

647
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: which is what Lorenzo Carter did. I don't think there

648
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: was anything dirty. But what you're asking them to do

649
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: is okay, when you got the quarterback wrapped up and

650
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: you bring him down, they're telling you, the league is

651
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: saying you cannot land with your body on top of

652
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 1: the quarterback. But it's very difficult. As you're bringing the

653
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: quarterback down, You've got to sort of roll to your

654
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: side to prevent yourself from landing on the quarterback. So

655
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: I get your point, and I'm not saying that it's

656
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: easy for Lorenzo Carter. All I'm arguing is based on

657
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: the ridden rule. The officials correctly interpreted that, and that's

658
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 1: all we could go by because that's what they're supposed

659
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: to that. You know, len you you bring I I

660
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 1: love the comment that you said. You know they're they're

661
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 1: told to come to show up angry. You know, let

662
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 1: him rest in peace. The old GM George Young used

663
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: to talk all the time about you know, you you

664
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 1: want these football players to turn it on and off.

665
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: They can't turn it on and off, let alone on

666
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 1: the field. No, And his point was they are raised

667
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: in a spartan like of course attitude atmosphere. They they

668
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: they're raised to be gladiators in the arena. That's really

669
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: what it is. And now you want them like when

670
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: they go away, they don't just turn it off like

671
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: after the game. Well, worse than that, How the hell

672
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: did I turn it off during the game. You're in

673
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: the middle of going after somebody and you're gonna pull back,

674
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you something, that's how you go. You

675
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: hurt yourself by doing that. It's it's really a dangerous situation. Yeah,

676
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: And I suspect Russ And this is starting to get

677
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: a little psychological here, but I suspect once the career

678
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 1: is over for a defensive player, well for offensive players too,

679
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: but especially for defensive players, it takes time for them

680
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: to tone that down, the competitive fire, the competitive fire

681
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: in their everyday life. Oh, I don't think. I don't think, Glenn.

682
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: I think you make a very good point. I think

683
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: that's probably a little similar two prize fighters two boxers.

684
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you live, you live your entire life going

685
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: into a ring, and I don't care what sport you like.

686
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: You don't have to be a boxing fan. But I

687
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: am telling you this, there is nothing like you are there.

688
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: He is there, and that is it, mano a mano.

689
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: You're naked there all alone, nobody is there to help you,

690
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: and and you when you leave, all of a sudden,

691
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: what am I doing now? I mean that that's a

692
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: major major adjustment. Yeah, we we don't want to go

693
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: too far on this, but Harry Carson has spoken on

694
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 1: that subject post post career and the kind of assimilating

695
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: yourself into regular, everyday life and how difficult it was

696
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 1: for Harry to do that. Well, you know what, Lennon,

697
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: As always, buddy, thanks for the call. We'll look forward

698
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: to talk to you next time. I think, you know,

699
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: you kind of said a lading. I think that's with

700
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: all sports. You know, not everybody, but I think a

701
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: lot of people. And we've seen these stories in all sports, football, baseball, hockey, basketball, whatever. Boxing.

702
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 1: You're you're in the spotlight. You've been playing the sport

703
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 1: that you love for years, and now all of a sudden,

704
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do it myself. You know,

705
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 1: I'm not being a shrink here. Okay, I'm not being

706
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 1: a shrink here, Lance, but you know this whole business

707
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: and I'm not pooh pooing ct E at all. It

708
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: is a very real existence but I think also what

709
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: compounds the CTE is when a guy leaves the game

710
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: and he's got nothing else to do. You know, it

711
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: could have been a Mike Webster, it could have been

712
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: a junior sale, like where do I go? I've been,

713
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: I've been this godlike figure and now I'm um in

714
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: my mind, I'm nothing they would define by being football players.

715
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: It's in all sports, though we've seen it many many

716
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: times in all sports, so it's it's not just that.

717
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: Well what Lenn brought up, I think it was a

718
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: good term that he utilized when Harry Carson was referring

719
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: to assimilating back at the society. Because when you're painting

720
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 1: russ is when you're an athlete, you're on a specific routine.

721
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: You go to practice every day, you eat lunch at

722
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: the same time, you're with your teammates, meetings, everything is structured.

723
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 1: So when you remove yourself from that structure, now you

724
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: have to find a way to build structure into your

725
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: life without a team oriented you know, feel around you.

726
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: So I think that's the biggest challenge in terms of

727
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 1: do you find another activity that gives you that structure?

728
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: Do you invest in a business that gives you that structure.

729
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 1: I think most athletes they always struggle to determine what's

730
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: the next step. But it's not just what's the next step,

731
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: what's something that's going to provide me enough so that

732
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: I can have the outlet to put that fire in

733
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: the right spot with very good point. And that's again,

734
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: you know, Lenn touched on that, but you know, it

735
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: is that assimilation, and it's a problem. It's a problem

736
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: for a lot of guys. Two oh one, nine four

737
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: or five one three is the number of phone lines

738
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: are open. I I think it's kind of what a

739
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: difference like, like just forget the players, you and me

740
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: and the fans. I mean, we're talking about positivity instead

741
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: of negativity today. Well it's been a while since we've

742
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: come on this program after a game and talked about

743
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: a win, so it's certainly refreshing from that perspective. But

744
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: to me, like I said, we've been going back and

745
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: forth every single week and people at nauseum are debating

746
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: whether or not a simple quarterback change is going to

747
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 1: solve everything. And you know, my biggest takeaway from last

748
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: night's game is that Eli still has something in the

749
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: tank and I don't think that we needed to see

750
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: this game to prove it. But I do think that,

751
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: you know, it was somewhat of a statement game for

752
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 1: line Manning personally to say, hey, when I have time,

753
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: when this offense executes, I could still be productive. Now

754
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: is that mean that it's gonna be like this every

755
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: single game for the final seven contest. I'm not gonna

756
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: necessarily go that far, because there's going to be I think,

757
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: an upgrade in terms of the level of competition that

758
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: the Giants are gonna see outside the Niners. But what

759
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: I think people need to understand is an offense operates

760
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: smoothly when all of the pieces are clicking, and when

761
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: you take one piece out of the equation that's not

762
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: on the same page, you're gonna get the results you

763
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: saw on the first d eight games of the season.

764
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 1: Russ last night, you had the offensive line do its job.

765
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: Eli was efficient in terms of his decision making, and

766
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: you know, the running game provided enough semblance that it

767
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 1: kept the Niners defense on its toes, so you had

768
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: really all three facets clicking, and that's a big reason

769
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: why they made the necessary plays and just enough to

770
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: win the game. So that to me is something that

771
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: you want to see moving forward, and you want to

772
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: see whether or not this was a flash or this

773
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 1: is perhaps the sign of what's yet to come. By

774
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: the way, did you see first person who greeted Eli

775
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: when he came off the field after winning Sterling? Shepherd?

776
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: Is that referring to I know Eli went over to Sterling,

777
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: so that must have been something happened before. I'm talking

778
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: about his head coach, Pastor Sherman, went up to him,

779
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: gave him a hug, and you can tell he was

780
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: very happy for Eli Manning. Because you know what, folks,

781
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: I said this last week, it was a false narrative. Okay, Yes,

782
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: Coach Sherman spoke to Eli Manning, as he told us,

783
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: had quite a few conversations with Eli Manning. The It

784
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 1: was never if you don't beat the Niners on Monday night,

785
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: you're not playing, You're losing your job. That was never

786
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: the conversation. The conversation was we gotta win some games.

787
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: And I'm sure to read as as the coach told

788
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: the media, you can roll with it anyway you want,

789
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 1: so naturally, how did everybody roll with it? Four quarters?

790
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: Four quarters left? Uh do or die? It was not that,

791
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 1: trust me, had Elis have they lost last night's game,

792
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: it would have been heartbreaking. The way Eli played last night,

793
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 1: he wasn't going any place. It was just a false narrative.

794
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: And you know what, I don't normally do this, but

795
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it now. Did you obviously you watched

796
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: the game last night? I would hope, so consider I

797
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: have to talk about it. The fans watched the game

798
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: last night? What the hell was Booker mcfallen talking about? Okay, Well,

799
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: I did not listen to the broadcast, so that I

800
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: can't necessarily provide inside on because I was listening to

801
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: the radio broadcast and watching it. Well, you want to

802
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: know what it was. I always watch, you know, I watched.

803
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: I listened to what I'm watching, Okay, because it just

804
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: to me a coincides better. Last night was the first

805
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: time I actually thought about not doing that. I almost

806
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: got up to go. In fact, if the radio was

807
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: in the same rule, I would have done that. I mean,

808
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 1: they some of these guys go on and you know,

809
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: they base their opinion on what they read in a

810
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: local paper or what's on the local uh calling shows

811
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: or something. But Booker McFarlane went on add nauseum about

812
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: Eli and then questioning that Eli is is Eli a

813
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer? I don't think he's a Hall

814
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 1: of famer? And and and to his credit, Jason Witten said,

815
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: WHOA slowed down in my mind? He I mean, you

816
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: know he's sitting up there in that Kakamami contraption. What

817
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: about the hell it is? I mean, like a cherry

818
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: picker or something. I don't know what the hell he's doing.

819
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 1: But do me a favor. Shut up, because you know

820
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: it was stupid. You came on with an agenda and

821
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: the I mean, he was going on about Dave Gettleman. Listen,

822
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: it's easy to pile on. Okay, I'll tell you something,

823
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: Booger Eli is gonna get an induction into the Hall

824
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: of Fame. The only way you're going is if you

825
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: buy a ticket. Rest assured on that, all right, That's

826
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,439
Speaker 1: the only way. Two oh one four or five one

827
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: three is the number. It really annoyed me because because

828
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: it was an agenda. Well listen, it wasn't a discussion.

829
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: It wasn't let me make a point, it was an agenda.

830
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: And you know what I noticed all the time, It's

831
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: not just wasn't just last night I see it with

832
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: other shows, you know, the other Monday night games. It's

833
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 1: an agenda. Do your job and also don't get paid

834
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 1: by the word for well, I have no problem. Everyone's

835
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: a title to their opinion when it comes to debating.

836
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: It's a guy a Hall of Famer, So I'm not

837
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: gonna get on a guy it wasn't. That wasn't the

838
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: place that was, and that's fine. But what I heard,

839
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: and I don't want to say this because I don't

840
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: know for a fact, but I was reading some commentary

841
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: and I believe some of the opinions that he was

842
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: laying out as to why he thought Eli man it

843
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: wasn't a Hall of Famer, was based on non factual information.

844
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: That's where I'd have an issue. Now, I didn't hear it,

845
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: so I'm a little hesitant in throwing it out there.

846
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: You gotta go back and listen to the broadcast. But

847
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: that's what somebody had made a claim, and I don't

848
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: have enough. I'm just thrown it out there. If you

849
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: if you're giving an opinion and there's no factual evidence

850
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: behind that, or you're giving facts such as you know,

851
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: Eli's postseason record outside of the Super Bowl runs or

852
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. You know, that's when I think

853
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: you have to know your role because then you're providing

854
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: misinformation to the audience. So that was something that I

855
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: had heard was being thrown out. Well, he said Eli

856
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 1: never made the playoffs outside. Yeah, that's what I read.

857
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: I know whether or not it was truthful. So so

858
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: that's factually wrong. But but but also the way Jason

859
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: Whitney explained it, not only did he win two super Bowls,

860
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: but who did he beat into Super Bowls? And one

861
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 1: was the team that nobody could beat New England Patriots

862
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,919
Speaker 1: and Tom Brady. It was just like it was too

863
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 1: much of an agenda. You're supposed to do your job.

864
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: You guys are analyzing the game. It was like, let

865
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: me pile on, let me drop all this garbage on

866
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 1: Eli any which way I can. If you wanted to

867
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: talk and he from the get go, if you wanted

868
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: to talk about okay, um, maybe Eli's done. Whether you

869
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: or I agree, he as you say, he's entitled to

870
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: his opinion. But the way it was just again, it

871
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 1: was just too much of an agenda. I didn't go

872
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: for it, and you know, I'm I just wanted to

873
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 1: get to get that off my chest because I really

874
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: thought it was way over the top, just way way

875
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: over top. And as I say, he's sitting there like

876
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: I was open, I was waiting for the wind, a

877
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: big gust of wind, to come by and knock him

878
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: on his key. Still, well, Russ, if there was any

879
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: lesson to take away from your experience viewing the game,

880
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 1: I suggest future you make sure you put the radio

881
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: on and you get the TV going in that right room.

882
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: And that's the end. And I miss the questions note A, Bates, nothing,

883
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: I missed some of the point, a little insulted that

884
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: you turned the radio on, to be honest with you, Okay,

885
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: well come on, And in fairness I should have because

886
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: I missed some of the stuff Booger was saying because

887
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: I was too many, too busy dropping f bombs at

888
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: him when I was, but but really it was far

889
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: too many people, folks. We all are entitled to opinions.

890
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: I certainly have mine, as you folks well know, Lance

891
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: has is you have yours. Everybody is entitled to an opinion,

892
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: but when it is constantly an agenda, when it is

893
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: constantly an agenda, then it becomes enough is enough? And

894
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 1: I thought that was a ridiculous agenda. It was like

895
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: Eli this, Eli At. I mean, we know about it, well,

896
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: you know, and as you said, there's plenty, there's there's

897
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: plenty left in Eli's tank well, and on that subject,

898
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: and I want to make this very clear, there's a

899
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: lot of people on social media that have been critical

900
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: of Eli Manning and has he played x s in

901
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: football this season? No? Has there been highs, have there

902
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 1: been lows? Yes? But for those individuals speaking of narratives,

903
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: Russ who have constantly criticized the line Manning in the

904
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: first half of the season, whether it be rightfully so

905
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: or not, whether it be opinion or not, if there's

906
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: factual information behind it, I have no issue with it.

907
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: But after a game like last night, Russ, when he

908
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: actually comes through and he delivers in fairness as opposed

909
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: to proving that you don't have a narrative, you then

910
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: need to give him his due when he deserves his due,

911
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: because if he could criticize him when he struggles and

912
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: he's deservedly so, then at the same time you then

913
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: have to admit, you know what, he actually played a

914
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: pretty solid game, Lassness. Well, I mean that's the point.

915
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: The point is he Eli is not entitled to make

916
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: a mistake because every time he makes a mistake, like

917
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: for example, the past that that where he underthrew oh

918
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: the arms strength, you know, it was just we know

919
00:48:56,120 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: he underthrow him. It happens. Well, it's the same thing.

920
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: I didn't meant to cut you off for us. But

921
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Mrs Thros, Matt Ryan, mrs throws, Philip Rivers

922
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: Mrs throws, Amaron Rochers mrs those you want to go

923
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: to every other quarterback. Yeah, but when you have an agenda, well,

924
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 1: of course everything is exactly. Everything is put into the microscope.

925
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: Ten times two five one three is the number. Let's

926
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 1: go down to South Carolina and check in with Steve. Steve,

927
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: how are you doing today, my friend? You're on with

928
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: Russ and Lance a fine Ross. Thank you, thank you,

929
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 1: and Lance good good talking to you. By the way,

930
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: just to let you know, my first Giant game was

931
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: against the Dallas Cowboys in two very okay, Tom Landry's

932
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: and mel renfro right on that team. Oh yes, And

933
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: also but also then that was why a title and

934
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: Bell's shop, yes, sir, yes, sir. So it goes back

935
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: there and I do appreciate great Jake, and then I

936
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: was the season ticket holder before I've moved around the

937
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: country on that one, Okay, what I wanted to do, Russ,

938
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: I wanted to agree with you on Booger, but I'm

939
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,439
Speaker 1: actually gonna take it up step further on that one.

940
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: That was an agenda of the e FPN producer last night.

941
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: It was clearly contrived. Okay, you're that's that's that's a

942
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: fair point. Yeah no, and I'm not even really I'm

943
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: Mackie Green. How Booker said everything and they think he

944
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: did go on extra steps, but I was I felt

945
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: the exact same way that you did last night. That

946
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 1: was the biggest bunch of bs that was going on

947
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: on that case. Yep, No, thank you for the call, Steve.

948
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: I listen, I couldn't agree with you more. You know, look,

949
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: it is not I'm not saying it is just Booker,

950
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: it's it's the whole the whole agenda by by the

951
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: crew away it was produced, but it was okay, let's

952
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 1: let's jump on Eli's s let's let's do this. This

953
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,439
Speaker 1: is and you know what, they were probably p old

954
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: that they won the game, because had they lost the

955
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: game or Eli had had he sucked, it would have

956
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: been more convenient to them because then it would have

957
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: enhanced their agenda. Dave in Hackettsack, Dave, you're on with

958
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: Russ and Lance. How are we doing today, Dave, I

959
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: just want to make two quick points. Ross. I totally

960
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: agree with you. I watched the game list night our

961
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: Damn hear shot the TV. The other thing is, do

962
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: you guys have any knowledge of ANIXA policy with the

963
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: NFL where these players can go voluntarily and be a

964
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: psychologically helped so that they can get into society. I

965
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: watched Harry Carson. He was an animal on the field.

966
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: I watched him today. This guy is just a pleasure

967
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: to listen to him talk football. So if you guys

968
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 1: can answer, yeah, I think we may have lost. Okay, well,

969
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: Dave an answer to your question. Yeah, the the guys

970
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: are health, not only the health while they're playing. Uh.

971
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: You know who's got a job with the NFL now,

972
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: former Giant running back, the Princeton guy, Keith Elias. In fact,

973
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: I interviewed him on my podcast. He's vice president of

974
00:51:55,640 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 1: player not player Developments relations something like that, but very

975
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: involved and you know, um, very involved with the director

976
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: of player Engagement. Very very good, you know what. Thank you,

977
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: Dave our trustee producer here and Dave, Dave, he's in

978
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: charge of player engagement. Well that's David Tyree. No, Keith Elias, Yeah,

979
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 1: but but he was he was referred to here with

980
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: the Giants, David Tyree. Keith Elias has the role for

981
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 1: the league and Tyree is the guy here and they're

982
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: talking with the guys. But you know, just going back

983
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 1: to something that I said before, like Keith Elias brought

984
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 1: it up with me when we were talking, you know,

985
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: like he says, well, you know, sometimes a player could

986
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: come to me and say and and Keith's a very

987
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: bright guy. Uh, player could come to me and say, well,

988
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: you know, I think I I you know, something's wrong

989
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: with me. I might I have c t E. And

990
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: Keith would you know in a discussion, well, why, well

991
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: I'm depressed, And Keith would say, sure you are. You

992
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: just left the game that you played for your entire life.

993
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: Since you're a kid, you don't know what to do

994
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: with yourself. You know, those are kind of the factors.

995
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: But in answer to your question, Dave, yes, uh, there is.

996
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: You know, it is made available to the guys. It

997
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: is made available. Now. You can't babysit everybody either, you know.

998
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: It's the same thing. You can't tell everybody. You can

999
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 1: tell them to they're blue in a face to save

1000
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: their money. You can tell them that you don't need

1001
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 1: five homes and twenty cars, you know, but that doesn't

1002
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: always work. Ernie in North Plainfield, Ernie, you're on with

1003
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: Russ and Lance. How are we doing and joining your show?

1004
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: Thank you? Um, it's nice to talk to somebody after

1005
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 1: Giants have a win. It's nice for us to talk

1006
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:51,280
Speaker 1: to somebody after the Giants have a win. Much better anyway.

1007
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 1: What's always been bugging me the whole season is that, obviously,

1008
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: probably the biggest weakness Giants have is their offensive line.

1009
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: Why was it such a rushed to unload Flucker Brett Jones. Uh,

1010
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: you know, they they didn't cost a lot of money,

1011
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: and they were you know, they weren't great players, but

1012
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: there were certainly adequate players. And uh, that's one question,

1013
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 1: and just a fast second is, uh, what are their

1014
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: options as far as getting linebackers? Uh to covering space

1015
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: because obviously Ogal Tree and Goodson can't do it. Well,

1016
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: I'll let me let me go with the first part.

1017
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: I'll let you go with the second part. You know,

1018
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: thanks for the call, Dave, and answer my friend. On

1019
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: the first part. They made the decision. It wasn't that

1020
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: they didn't want or they didn't like Brett Jones. We

1021
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: said this. It was Halapio Halapio however you want to

1022
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: call him. They liked him. Everything got screwed up when

1023
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: he went down and needed surgeries, season ending surgery, so

1024
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: that screwed that up. As far as the Fluker thing,

1025
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: I think it was. I think it was a question

1026
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: of money. Well, Flucker signed with Seattle. Ultimately, he also

1027
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: followed former Giants offensive line coach Mike Solari, which I'm

1028
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: sure was a factor. But here's how you have to

1029
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 1: look at it. Dave Gettleman is a brand new general manager.

1030
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: He comes in, he evaluates the roster. He did not

1031
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: bring in d J. Fluker. So Gettleman's opinion of d J.

1032
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: Flucker could be very different than Jerry Reese and the

1033
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: previous regime's opinion. You have to understand he's got an

1034
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: unbiased perspective on all these players because he's not no

1035
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 1: ties to them. Now, Flucker is having a solid season

1036
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: with Seattle. I understand the Kohler's point, but Jamon Brown,

1037
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 1: I think, is a guy that has the physique of

1038
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: d J. Fluker and perhaps could be a guy that

1039
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: can solidify that right guard spot. So they may have

1040
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: found a DJ fluker s type of player with respect

1041
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: to that, with respect to Bret Jones, when an offer

1042
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 1: comes to the table and Dave Gettleman is saying to himself,

1043
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: I want to collect more draft pick because I want

1044
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 1: to bring in the type of guys that I see

1045
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 1: fit to build this roster, I think that was part

1046
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: of the rationale. As Russ mentioned, I don't think it

1047
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: was a reflection if they didn't have faith in Brett Jones.

1048
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,240
Speaker 1: It was the Vikings were in need of a center

1049
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: because Pat lf Line, their starter, was hurt. At the

1050
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: time they come to the Giants, they make an offer

1051
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,439
Speaker 1: and Dave Gettleman saying, hey, you know, we've traded away

1052
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: some draft picks. I need to bring in volumes so

1053
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 1: that I could build this roster up. And it was

1054
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 1: an opportunity like that. So you know, there's a lot

1055
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: of reasons why guys are moved, and sometimes it's salary

1056
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: cap decision making. Sometimes it's because you want extra draft

1057
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,439
Speaker 1: picks and so forth. But you know, the offensive line

1058
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Speaker 1: remember last year which had both of those guys in

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Speaker 1: it that we just talked about. Russ had issues a past,

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Speaker 1: protection had issues and run blocking. Let's not make it

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Speaker 1: sound like the offensive line last year was the juggernaut

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Speaker 1: of the NFL. And why did they let those guys go?

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Speaker 1: There's a reason why they needed to make changes because

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Speaker 1: there were issues. Now, the changes to start the season

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Speaker 1: didn't work out all well, and that's why the Giants

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Speaker 1: started the part ways with the entire rightside of the

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Speaker 1: offensive line. More of a reason why gettlemen needed more

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Speaker 1: draft picks and allery cap flexibility to pursue the players

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Speaker 1: he wants this offseason. And they also quite frankly, did

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Speaker 1: Brett Jones a little bit, not a little bit. They

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Speaker 1: did him a favorite. Well, they gave him an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to start. They gave him an opportunity to start, and

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Speaker 1: they gave him an opportunity to start on a good team. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: and because he's from Western Canada and moved him close

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Speaker 1: at the home as right, So I mean you could

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Speaker 1: look at it. There was a win win aspect from

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Speaker 1: both sides. Of things now. The second question was the

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Speaker 1: linebackers situation and how the Giants seemed to have some

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Speaker 1: trouble and coverage, And I think that's a very fair

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Speaker 1: point by the last caller, Ogletree. Yesterday, I thought B J.

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Speaker 1: Goodson actually played a really good game because Goodson had

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Speaker 1: two interceptions and both of those were within coverage, and

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Speaker 1: I thought he did a nice job coming into the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and helping stop the run. So as

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Speaker 1: far as you know, who else could they turn to,

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Speaker 1: which was the question, You don't have a great deal

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Speaker 1: of depth with respect to that because most of the

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Speaker 1: other linebackers are really edge rushers. Karie Martin, Lorenzo Carter

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Speaker 1: are known getting after the football, getting after the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Olivier Vernon, you don't necessarily want to play him back

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Speaker 1: in coverage. Nate Stupor, who's been getting some snaps and

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Speaker 1: playing time at linebacker, but you know, he's more of

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Speaker 1: a guy that also can assist in stopping the run.

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Speaker 1: And Ta Davis is a relatively young linebacker as I

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Speaker 1: look at the personnel. So to answer your question, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's certainly an area that they're going to continue to experiment.

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Speaker 1: But b J Goodson is a player now given some

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Speaker 1: of the injuries, who I think could start to come

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Speaker 1: into his own. The thing with b J Goodson Russ

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Speaker 1: is he just couldn't stay healthy. Well yeah, So if

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Speaker 1: b J could stay on the field, could stay at

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Speaker 1: a harm's way and can get more snaps and get

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Speaker 1: more reps, it's a possibility that his versatility can start

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Speaker 1: the show. Because there's definitely potential there with b J Goodson,

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Speaker 1: and he flashed yesterday, but like anything else, can he

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Speaker 1: build upon that? That's been the looming question connected to him.

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Speaker 1: And you listen as as we were talking about everybody

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Speaker 1: on the team has to feel better because of you know,

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Speaker 1: you get some confidence. We were talking about Ingram. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure b J Goodson sitting home on that plane waking

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Speaker 1: up this morning with you know, a football in each

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Speaker 1: pocket because he intercepted, he passes. He's feeling good. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't care how long you're playing in

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Speaker 1: this league. Confidence can wayne Winning builds confidence and losing

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Speaker 1: takes it in the opposite direction. I want to remind

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Speaker 1: all of you people that Big Blue Kickoff Live here

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Speaker 1: Giants prizes throughout the season. Always remember the number to

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Speaker 1: call to A one four five, one three uh for

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Speaker 1: my buddy Lance Meadow. Thank you. I am Russ Salzburg.

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Speaker 1: Thank you as always, and I'll be back here to

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Speaker 1: hear your calls tomorrow. I go on