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Speaker 1: new poll question this hour. Let's give the whole question
Speaker 1: from the first hour. Mclovin, we didn't have one. Oh well, Ben, No,
Speaker 1: this is really the first pole question. I already put
Speaker 1: it up. Okay, who would you pick if you could
Speaker 1: have either of these players from the beginning of their
Speaker 1: career to start a team around Steph Curry or Kevin
Speaker 1: Durant who happened to play tonight in so I can
Speaker 1: have them for their entire career. Right, going back to
Speaker 1: like what it was two thousand and twenty eleven for
Speaker 1: step Okay, let me double check, No, it was earlier
Speaker 1: than that. Do you want to get your facts together? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I figured we just go what we have. Okay, we'll
Speaker 1: just kind of be loose on that two nine ten
Speaker 1: with Steph's first year, right, Kevin Durant his career and
Speaker 1: that ballpark than mc um so. I can have Kevin
Speaker 1: Durant to start his career, his his entire career, or
Speaker 1: Steph Curry. Kevin's a better player, but it feels like
Speaker 1: Steph is the better weapon in today's In today's NBA, Durant,
Speaker 1: you know, can defend. Obviously, He's a mismatch nightmare for anybody. Everybody.
Speaker 1: Steph is fascinating. Steph also is a guy you come
Speaker 1: out to see. You know, Kevin Durant is not sighting.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a wonderful player, one of the great
Speaker 1: players of all time. But it's not like you go, yeah,
Speaker 1: mid range jumper like it. Steph gives you that entertainment value.
Speaker 1: I would say Steph just because I think what he
Speaker 1: does is Yeah, that's tough when they do like those
Speaker 1: top ESPN has Top one hundred players of all time.
Speaker 1: Who ends up higher on the list, Steph or k D.
Speaker 1: I don't know with ESPN's rankings, the last one that
Speaker 1: came out or if somebody else did the top one
Speaker 1: hundred players. Can you look at that and see Durant
Speaker 1: might be in front of Steph. I have Durant with
Speaker 1: one MVP Steph with two that means anything. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would say Steph. You know, Durant wanted to join Steph,
Speaker 1: and I think that that has to factor in a
Speaker 1: little bit that Durant realized that I could win a title.
Speaker 1: He was going to join Steph's team. Yeah, Paul, I
Speaker 1: guess it's personal preference on this one, because you're getting
Speaker 1: two sure things, winners, uncoverable. Yeah. Man, this is this
Speaker 1: is as tough as it gets. But but I would
Speaker 1: also have to factor in, you know, the entertainment value
Speaker 1: of this. If I get Steph and I, my fan
Speaker 1: base is going to come out. They're gonna watch Steph.
Speaker 1: Durant is just gonna you know, he's methodical. He just
Speaker 1: you know, every night you can plug him in. You
Speaker 1: know what either was, They're not a wrong answer here. Now.
Speaker 1: I like my chances. Yeah, McLevin so ESPN put out
Speaker 1: a Top hundred in May of twenty and twenty. I
Speaker 1: think we debated this. They have Steph at thirteen and
Speaker 1: Kadi at fourteen. Okay, right there. Yeah, I wonder which
Speaker 1: one goes into the top ten or both go into
Speaker 1: the top ten, and then who comes out, because who's
Speaker 1: in the top ten right now. Well, just ahead of
Speaker 1: them is Oscar Robinson is at Robertson. Robertson is at eleven.
Speaker 1: Uh see, Akim is at twelve. I have to get
Speaker 1: to the ten lists. Yeah, Paul Curry's kind of like
Speaker 1: I don't want quarterback. You compare him too, But he
Speaker 1: could use another MVP. He could use another title's It
Speaker 1: hasn't been that long. But they went on that little
Speaker 1: run and then they had injuries and so forth. But
Speaker 1: they're back to that core group if they could, if
Speaker 1: he could get one more title, it would do to
Speaker 1: him like what a title would do for Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: or a title did for Peyton Manning. Yeah, yeah, or
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, one of those guys that's only has one
Speaker 1: still has a little bit of time to win another one.
Speaker 1: But yeah, if Steph, you know, I like them last
Speaker 1: year and then Clay got hurt, and then I liked
Speaker 1: them a lot this year. Although mcklevin goes, you know,
Speaker 1: Golden State has won all those games playing at home,
Speaker 1: I go and like, you're, well, I would just say
Speaker 1: they'll come back to earth a little bit if they've
Speaker 1: played a lot of games at home. Therefore, you're supposed
Speaker 1: to win those games at home. Oh, definitely, But you
Speaker 1: know the NBA works. It's all who'd you play last night?
Speaker 1: Who'd you play last night? Are you on the road.
Speaker 1: It's all to say. Rest. The Phoenix Suns have won
Speaker 1: nine in a row. They beat the Timberwolves last night,
Speaker 1: as mclovin pointed out that the Suns are on the
Speaker 1: heels at Golden State. Yeah, they should be good this year.
Speaker 1: It's just Golden State is doing this and they don't
Speaker 1: have Clay Thompson back. They're two rookies they drafted haven't
Speaker 1: played much. And then James Wiseman, who was a you know,
Speaker 1: a top five draft pick, hasn't played much. They got
Speaker 1: depth there. I did watch the Lakers against the Bulls.
Speaker 1: Lonzo Ball hits seven out of ten three pointers last night.
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis got thrown from the game. It just goes
Speaker 1: back to and I know that Lebron's not there. You know,
Speaker 1: let me wait until after Christmas, which I keep saying,
Speaker 1: But you got to want to play defense and share
Speaker 1: the ball, wanted and if that's sort of the theme
Speaker 1: with this team the rest of this season, they're going
Speaker 1: to be an average team. I can't put all of
Speaker 1: this on Russell Westbrook. I think he's trying too hard.
Speaker 1: He's trying to figure out how do I fit in?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm usually the alpha here. You know, how
Speaker 1: much do I try to take over? How much do
Speaker 1: I defer? It comes down to the following. If Anthony
Speaker 1: Davis is one of the top five players in the NBA,
Speaker 1: then the Lakers will be okay. If he's not, I
Speaker 1: don't think you can rely on Westbrook. You can't rely
Speaker 1: on Lebron as well, not every single night. But I
Speaker 1: don't know if Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis should be the
Speaker 1: Greek Freak. He was the Greek Freak before the Greek Freak.
Speaker 1: It's just there is this inner drive with the Greek
Speaker 1: Freak to be great. I don't know if we've seen
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis's best work, but it feels like we have.
Speaker 1: I don't think we've seen the best of the Greek Freak,
Speaker 1: which is pretty scary. Yeahpo, I had a staff you
Speaker 1: on your Warriors. They're winning their games by an average
Speaker 1: of thirteen point three points. No one else in the
Speaker 1: league is over seven points. They're winning marchin Yeah, but
Speaker 1: they're win at home, Oh, come on three and one
Speaker 1: on the road. Dan, Okay, we'll see how this road
Speaker 1: trip ends out. Warriors at the Nets and seventy six
Speaker 1: ers at the Utah Jazz. The Niners handled the Rams
Speaker 1: thirty one. Ten Odell Beckham Junior, the third made his debut.
Speaker 1: He did okay. I mean I didn't expect much out
Speaker 1: of him. Von Miller made his debut. I didn't expect
Speaker 1: much out of him. I did expect a lot out
Speaker 1: of Jalen Ramsey and Aaron Donald and Jimmy Garoppolo. Jimmy
Speaker 1: Garoppolo didn't do much, although his quarterback rating was one
Speaker 1: forty seven nine, the highest of his career, as he
Speaker 1: threw for two touchdowns one hundred eighty two yards. They
Speaker 1: ran the football. They run the football every time they
Speaker 1: played the Rams, and they've beaten them five consecutive times.
Speaker 1: If you're not gonna have any pass rush, then chances
Speaker 1: are Jimmy Garoppolo can look like bart starback there. Here
Speaker 1: is the schedule here bye week for the Rams, then
Speaker 1: at Green Bay host Jacksonville at Arizona host Seattle at
Speaker 1: Minnesota at Baltimore. Then San Francisco comes to town to
Speaker 1: end the regular season, got to win the division, got
Speaker 1: to get that home field advantage to start out with.
Speaker 1: If not, then this experiment is not going to end
Speaker 1: well this year. It doesn't mean it won't be long
Speaker 1: term or longer term next year. Still, you know a
Speaker 1: team to reckon with that They went all in Obviously,
Speaker 1: they went all in before they got von Miller and
Speaker 1: before they got Odell Beckham Junior the third. So Shack
Speaker 1: is ten, is Kobe Kobe nine or eight? Nine? Tim
Speaker 1: Duncan is eight. Let's see, Larry Legend is next to seven,
Speaker 1: Wilted six, Magic at five, Bill Russell four, Kareem at three,
Speaker 1: Lebron at two, and Mike at one. Yeah. I hesitated
Speaker 1: to bring this up because I probably gonna get crush.
Speaker 1: Is Tim Duncan worthy of that? I know his resume is,
Speaker 1: and the team he was on, and the coach and
Speaker 1: the players he was with. Is he drastically better than
Speaker 1: Charles Barkley as an individual player? Not resume? Yeah, but
Speaker 1: that doesn't That's not how it works. Okay, I mean
Speaker 1: this is resume. Tim Duncan without those championships is not
Speaker 1: sniffing the top twenty. Okay, I guess what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is if I would rather have Barkley, if I could
Speaker 1: sign one in his prime over Tim Duncan, and that
Speaker 1: maybe that's nuts for a lot of reasons on and
Speaker 1: off the court. Just like Steph Curry's entertaining, I would
Speaker 1: take Charles Barkley. I think Charles Barkley's underrated because he's
Speaker 1: so good in the media. I would take Tim Duncan
Speaker 1: because I knew exa. Actually, when I'm going to get
Speaker 1: with Charles, I don't know what I'm going to get.
Speaker 1: And sometimes that's spectacular. It's I mean, he's unique. There's
Speaker 1: nobody his size who's done what he's done. Elgin Baylor
Speaker 1: is similar for those who are a little bit older,
Speaker 1: you know, because Elgin felt like you know, he was
Speaker 1: six to five, maybe six six, but he was an
Speaker 1: unbelievable jumper, and really he was ahead of his time
Speaker 1: in the NBA. But Charles at six four and a
Speaker 1: half maybe six five, and he wasn't afraid of going
Speaker 1: in there against anybody. But now you got to put
Speaker 1: Duncan in there, and he's he's one of the great
Speaker 1: players of all time. You may not like his game,
Speaker 1: there was nothing where you go that's a signature play.
Speaker 1: But Duncan was great. Yeah, Nickle, want to take a
Speaker 1: guess where our upcoming guest, Dwayne Wade lands on this list?
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty again, nineteen a little lower, what PAULI? That
Speaker 1: was the number that's going through my head. That's a
Speaker 1: great guess between Yannis and Kawhile know, I was trying
Speaker 1: to guess what Paulie was going to get and he's
Speaker 1: I said nineteen. I would say Dwayne Wade right around
Speaker 1: twenty five twenty six. Yeah, that's not bad. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: let's take a break all of him. Ask Dwayne Wade.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna ask him. Then you can have Steph
Speaker 1: Curry's career or Kevin Durant's career, right, or is there
Speaker 1: a different question? Who would you build a team around?
Speaker 1: Because you said Kevin Durant's a better player. I think
Speaker 1: most people agree with that, But yeah, I would build
Speaker 1: it around Steph because there's just a there's still a
Speaker 1: fascination with him. All right, we'll take a break. Dwayne
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Speaker 1: Turners Sports NBA Analyst, and has a new book out,
Speaker 1: a photographic memoir. It's called Dwayne. It's release today featuring
Speaker 1: never be for Seeing photos from his life on and
Speaker 1: off the court. And of course he's doing a whole
Speaker 1: lot since uh he stopped playing basketball. You know what, Dwayne,
Speaker 1: we talk about Lebron is a high school football player.
Speaker 1: Nobody ever talks about you in your high school football career?
Speaker 1: Why why is that at Richard's High school? What kind
Speaker 1: of player were you? It was short lived, Dad, it was.
Speaker 1: It was about two three year run. It was very
Speaker 1: short lived. Okay, but are there any highlights? You know
Speaker 1: what I believe I was. I thought I was a
Speaker 1: better football player than I probably was. Like in my mind,
Speaker 1: I was like I was the next Randy Moss, but
Speaker 1: really I probably wasn't that good. Did you mind getting hit?
Speaker 1: I didn't. It wasn't my favorite thing, you know, Like
Speaker 1: you're not waking up saying I want to get hit,
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't my favorite thing to do at all.
Speaker 1: So I told the right sport you're attack mode. When
Speaker 1: did you start attacking the basket? Well, I've always I've
Speaker 1: always done that. You know when I when I was younger,
Speaker 1: I was so small, and you know, I couldn't get
Speaker 1: my shot off over big guys. So I had to
Speaker 1: use my speed and my quickness. So, um, that's the
Speaker 1: only way I was able to score or play with
Speaker 1: my dad or my brothers or my uncle. So I
Speaker 1: always had that. Who did you monel your game after
Speaker 1: when you were younger? Well, Dan grown up in Chicago,
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan. I mean it's you know, it's the greatest player,
Speaker 1: you know, in my generation, in my time. And to
Speaker 1: be able to grow up and in Chicago and be
Speaker 1: able to tune into w G and news and to
Speaker 1: be able to watch my favorite player, uh, night in
Speaker 1: and night out. I mean every move he did, yeah,
Speaker 1: everything he you know, he said, how he walked. I
Speaker 1: tried to emulate everything. But at what point do you
Speaker 1: realize you can't be Michael that style? Um, I mean
Speaker 1: I just kept trying. I feel like, if you know,
Speaker 1: I say this in my book, I feel like, if
Speaker 1: you reach for the stars, I mean, if you reach
Speaker 1: for the moon, you come down with a few stars.
Speaker 1: And so you know, if I shoot to be someone
Speaker 1: on the level of Michael Jordan's um, then me falling
Speaker 1: short of that is still still pretty high up. What
Speaker 1: is the picture in the book that brings out of motion?
Speaker 1: Is there one that you would say, whenever I look
Speaker 1: at that photo it elicits something. Yeah, it's it's the
Speaker 1: photo in the first quarter of my book where you
Speaker 1: will see the building that I grew up in. Um,
Speaker 1: it's all fifty nine and prairie. And when I look
Speaker 1: at that photo, just all the all the moments of
Speaker 1: my life comes comes rushing back. You know. All I
Speaker 1: can think about is little Duane, and I can think
Speaker 1: about Duane, and I can think about everything that his family,
Speaker 1: you know, was going through, everything that he went through,
Speaker 1: everything he's been through, and to be here right now.
Speaker 1: So I can look back at that photo and I
Speaker 1: could be proud of my journey. But I also can
Speaker 1: look back at the photo and see the responsibility in
Speaker 1: my journey because I know that's other. You know, young
Speaker 1: Duane's out there. Um, that that needs the same thing
Speaker 1: I needed, and that that that idoled that vision that
Speaker 1: image because you make a wrong turn turn, you you
Speaker 1: make a wrong decision, like, like, you're it's different where
Speaker 1: you grew up. You know, if you if you make
Speaker 1: the wrong choice, you know, it could be something really serious,
Speaker 1: something really bad. Did you have sort of somebody who
Speaker 1: was watching out, a guardian angel watching out for you.
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like I've had so many,
Speaker 1: so many guardian angels in my life. You know, I've
Speaker 1: watched my mother and I talk about in my book,
Speaker 1: I watched my mother take the wrong step or take
Speaker 1: a step that just it took a while to get
Speaker 1: back from. You know what I mean. It's like a
Speaker 1: case that's the wrong step because it's the step in
Speaker 1: her journey and her path um that you know that
Speaker 1: I needed to be able to take the different step,
Speaker 1: you know, like, Okay, I'm not gonna left from going right.
Speaker 1: But we all have those moments, right, We all have
Speaker 1: those moments where we take a step, and sometimes it
Speaker 1: takes us a little loan to get back up and
Speaker 1: get back on the right path. And so for me
Speaker 1: as a father, there that's been my main goal. My
Speaker 1: main goal has been how do I help you know
Speaker 1: as much as possible, how do I level how do
Speaker 1: I help eliminate those those steps that take you a
Speaker 1: long time to get up from. But do you think
Speaker 1: you would have been the basketball player the man you
Speaker 1: are if you had grown up in your environment that
Speaker 1: you're in now that your kids are growing up in. Um,
Speaker 1: If that makes sense to you, like what you where
Speaker 1: you grow up, how you grew up as opposed to
Speaker 1: having a little easier life, would you have been the
Speaker 1: same kind of player? Do you think? I mean, it
Speaker 1: would have looked a little different. You know. I look
Speaker 1: at someone like Steph Curry and it Steph Curry grew
Speaker 1: up with his father in the NBA, you know, obviously
Speaker 1: grew up and having a very great life from the
Speaker 1: from the standpoint of the visual of you know, successful father,
Speaker 1: mother and dad together, you know, in the family, and
Speaker 1: look at him, you know he still goes out and
Speaker 1: accomplished things that no one in the game has seen yet.
Speaker 1: And So if that hunger is inside of you to
Speaker 1: want to be great individually, if you won't before your life, UM,
Speaker 1: then I don't think it. I don't think it matters
Speaker 1: from that standpoint. Did the gangs leave you alone? They did?
Speaker 1: I was covered. My family was. My family had some
Speaker 1: high positions in games when I was growing up so
Speaker 1: they kind of left me alone and let me play basketball.
Speaker 1: How did that work out? Well? It worked out. It
Speaker 1: worked out good from from the sense of, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't never I never had to worry about, you know, anything,
Speaker 1: from the standpoint of someone trying to take advantage of
Speaker 1: me because of the family that I grew up in.
Speaker 1: You know, it was more so like that's Diana little
Speaker 1: better leave him alone. You know, my sister had a
Speaker 1: lot of rank in the city of Chicago, and so
Speaker 1: they didn't mess with me. They didn't mess with out
Speaker 1: a family a lot. Were they they afraid of your sister? Yeah?
Speaker 1: My sister had hands Dan like it wasn't afraid of me.
Speaker 1: I want you to play GM. We were just talking
Speaker 1: about this. I'm gonna let you start your team with
Speaker 1: Steph or KD. You get that their entire career, who
Speaker 1: do they both stay health? It entire career? Their career
Speaker 1: is their career. STEP's been injured, Kadi has been injured. Okay,
Speaker 1: Oh that's a tough one. I'm gonna go with Steph.
Speaker 1: That's what I went with. Why did you go with
Speaker 1: Steff over KD? Well, it doesn't it won't make any sense.
Speaker 1: You can close your eyes and pick. But I guess
Speaker 1: I went with Steph because Steph is kind of a
Speaker 1: revolutionized the sport. You know, he's one of those Mount
Speaker 1: Rushmore's from the sense of changing the game the way
Speaker 1: he has, and so I had I give him a
Speaker 1: little a little nod. Do you care where you're ranked
Speaker 1: on these lists all time list? I think your ESPN
Speaker 1: had the top one hundred, you're twenty sixth. No no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's all subjective. I mean that you know, it depends
Speaker 1: on what day, how do you wake up? Was your
Speaker 1: coffee better that day? Did you you know? I mean,
Speaker 1: like I don't, I don't worry about that, but you
Speaker 1: do want to be named. You know, for me being
Speaker 1: named on the top seventy five, that was important. That
Speaker 1: was very important for me to to be recognized as
Speaker 1: one of the greatest players to play the game. The
Speaker 1: number that you put people, you know that that right
Speaker 1: there could be a conversation and discussion that we would
Speaker 1: never hear the end up. But to be a part
Speaker 1: of that, that elite group that specially for me. But
Speaker 1: you're competitive, like they're part of you that says I
Speaker 1: was better than him? No, no, no, because like when
Speaker 1: you get up to that level, you're you're you're you're
Speaker 1: going against guys that you've never you never played against,
Speaker 1: that you maybe had a chance to see play, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, and that level of greatness. These
Speaker 1: are players who some players I have never seen. But
Speaker 1: then I'm right there with like Charles Barkley, who I
Speaker 1: got to see play, who I was a huge fan
Speaker 1: of and thought he was an amazing player, right, And
Speaker 1: so to me just to be in that discussion, then
Speaker 1: I come from nothing. I could come from the NY
Speaker 1: city of Chicago. You know, really when they say you
Speaker 1: don't suppose it, like how did I get here? I
Speaker 1: was supposed to be here. It's literally have been a
Speaker 1: lot of things that tried to knock me down and
Speaker 1: not allow me to, you know, to be standing here.
Speaker 1: So to be still standing and to be on that list,
Speaker 1: I don't care where you put me. What was it
Speaker 1: like first time he met Jordan? First time I met
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, It was like a it was a scene
Speaker 1: out of a movie. Like I was at I was
Speaker 1: at my draft party in Chicago, and I'm in a
Speaker 1: party and I'm dancing. My cousin comes and tapped me
Speaker 1: on the should and he say, hey, they won't let
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan in. He's outside. I'm like then, I'm like,
Speaker 1: stop playing with me. And he was like no. He
Speaker 1: was looking on his face, and so we took off.
Speaker 1: He ran and so I run outside bus through the
Speaker 1: doors and Michael Jordan is sitting outside on a motorcycle
Speaker 1: with about thirty or forty dudes behind them, and it's
Speaker 1: like a scene out of a movie. And I'm walking
Speaker 1: closer and closer, and I'm like, this is like, this
Speaker 1: is my idol, like this is Jordan. And he stopped
Speaker 1: by and he said, he just want to show me
Speaker 1: some love. You know, I just got drafted. I'm from
Speaker 1: the city. He just want to show me some love.
Speaker 1: Did you invite him in? I did, but he was
Speaker 1: he was like, na, no, no, they already not want to. Well,
Speaker 1: we also brought this topic up. You can have Charles
Speaker 1: Barkley or Tim Duncan. I'm taking Timmy D. Yeah I
Speaker 1: did too. He liked TIMMYD. Like Timmy D. Like the
Speaker 1: pass he like says screens. He you know, hes trying
Speaker 1: to get his buckets. But you know, the thing is
Speaker 1: with Duncan is he's so great, but he nobody can
Speaker 1: remember a signature play really from him. You know, he
Speaker 1: would hit a turnaround bank shot or he you know,
Speaker 1: he there was just something flashy about him. But he
Speaker 1: did everything that you would want a basketball player to do.
Speaker 1: But people still look at him as a top ten
Speaker 1: Should he be a top ten player of all time? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean in odd in odd generation, as you know
Speaker 1: Powell Forts, I mean, you know Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett,
Speaker 1: like these guys in odd generation, I meant a cream
Speaker 1: of the crop, and so you know, to be able.
Speaker 1: I played against him twice in the finals. And the
Speaker 1: consistency of that guy, the expressions that never change, you know,
Speaker 1: the ability just to be able to like move on
Speaker 1: to the next thing. You know, keep your team, no
Speaker 1: matter be lost in the finals, getting your team back
Speaker 1: to the finals the next year when they played us
Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen, I mean twenty fourteen. I mean, just
Speaker 1: the greatness you know of Tim Duncan as a leader. Um,
Speaker 1: I get a chance to experience it, and it's it's awesome.
Speaker 1: Kevin Garnett yell at you on the floor. Kevin Garnett
Speaker 1: yells other self, Hey, what do you mean He's trying
Speaker 1: to fire himself up. He gets mad at himself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I first, I think a lot of people think
Speaker 1: like trash talking and stuff is like because you see
Speaker 1: moments on TV when the guy get into it and
Speaker 1: maybe they get a technical file, but like that is
Speaker 1: that don't that's so far in between. And KG would
Speaker 1: just talk to himself and you think he's talking to you.
Speaker 1: He may be talking about you to himself, but he's
Speaker 1: talking to himself. Did Kobe talk to you? You know,
Speaker 1: you want to tell you a funny stir about Kobe.
Speaker 1: When I first got the NBA, like one of my idols,
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant, and my tenth game in NBA, I get
Speaker 1: a chance to play the Lakers and instally gets switched
Speaker 1: off on Kobe and I'm guarding him and he's just
Speaker 1: like he just whistling. He's just making like he making
Speaker 1: a little noises, and I'm like, you don't even take
Speaker 1: me serious? How scary was that one? You know, we
Speaker 1: talked about Rhythm Shooters scores and then once they get gone,
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, you hold on for dear life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, just guarding Kobe, especially at the
Speaker 1: times where he wanted to shoot every shot, and they
Speaker 1: was gonna give him the ball. Every player trying to guard.
Speaker 1: A lot of my teammates got to switch off. I
Speaker 1: was like, hey, d right, but I can't imagine what
Speaker 1: the raptors must have felt like when he put up
Speaker 1: eighty one. Oh. Well, you know we had to ask
Speaker 1: Chris Bosh about this. I asked Jalen Rose every year
Speaker 1: on the anniversary of that, and he goes, I didn't
Speaker 1: guard him the whole time. I go, nobody was guarding
Speaker 1: him the whole time. I think if I got like forty,
Speaker 1: he got about forty forty seven. Uh. But can I
Speaker 1: say I love the way that Jalen has just you know,
Speaker 1: jumped into the funny of it. And the commercial at
Speaker 1: Cob and Jalen did was It's one of my favorite
Speaker 1: sports commercials if you know that there's ever been, just
Speaker 1: because of the moment and just like not taking themselves
Speaker 1: too seriously. Who can score one hundred points in a game?
Speaker 1: Will we ever have that? I think I think we will. UM.
Speaker 1: I don't know when, UM, but it's a lot of
Speaker 1: guys that can score one hundred points in the game.
Speaker 1: We got Kevin. Kevin durret and score a hundred points
Speaker 1: in the game like these guys can score. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's so many an NBA that could fill it up. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, especially Steph Curry. Stephen Kurry can possibly score
Speaker 1: a hundred points in the game, right. But you know,
Speaker 1: the game is is played a little different now. Guys
Speaker 1: are playing way less minutes now, um than they were
Speaker 1: because the game is so much faster. So but from
Speaker 1: a town to standpoint, yeah, I see Clay Thompson maybe
Speaker 1: getting it well. When you could score sixty like three dribbles,
Speaker 1: it's pretty pretty amazing. If you have step out there,
Speaker 1: What's what's your lebron story that you'll you'll tell? I
Speaker 1: mean I will have. I'm lucky enough to have plenty, right,
Speaker 1: But I think for me, and when I think about
Speaker 1: it from a basketball standpoint, I just think, I think,
Speaker 1: if you haven't seen him away from the TV, if
Speaker 1: you haven't seen him in practice, if you haven't seen
Speaker 1: him on off days, if you haven't seen him that way,
Speaker 1: you don't know the greatness of this guy. You get
Speaker 1: to see it, you get to see highlights and moments
Speaker 1: of two hours of them. But if you're behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: you get to see every day of them. And that's
Speaker 1: the greatness. And that's what's special. The way that this
Speaker 1: guy take care of himself, take cares of himself. The
Speaker 1: way that this guy takes like it literally takes no
Speaker 1: days off from the sense of he's either working on
Speaker 1: his body, he's working on his mind, he's working on
Speaker 1: his game. It's just impressive. And I watched the guy practice,
Speaker 1: you know, and do things a practice that you would
Speaker 1: never probably see him doing the game. And that's the
Speaker 1: way he approached every day. So it's so special. What uh,
Speaker 1: what kind of athlete is your wife? M If you
Speaker 1: let her tell it, let my wife tell it. She's um.
Speaker 1: She can do all she can quarterback, she can shoot
Speaker 1: free throws, she can she's a point guard. She's he
Speaker 1: played soccer growing up. But ultimately she's just a weekend warrior.
Speaker 1: That's all she is at this point. Yeah, when the
Speaker 1: last time you play the pickup game? I don't no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I don't play pickup I don't play basketball. You're done. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I shoot jumpers, like with my son, like I
Speaker 1: go in a gyman, I'm done. I think, what's so
Speaker 1: good about it? And what allows me to be able
Speaker 1: to be done is that I do have a son
Speaker 1: who is in the game, and I'm able to part
Speaker 1: you know, all my information and my knowledge and my
Speaker 1: experience and all my stories. He's willing to listen to him,
Speaker 1: and so I'm willing to give him all, you know,
Speaker 1: all of my basketball juices because my body hurting. My
Speaker 1: last couple of years, he was hurt and physically it
Speaker 1: took a toll on me. Mentally it took a toll
Speaker 1: on me, and I don't want that. Like tomorrow, I'll
Speaker 1: leave you with this. And I don't know if I
Speaker 1: ever told you this. When I was handing the NBA
Speaker 1: title to you, you were the MVP. Shacks behind me
Speaker 1: and Shack goes Hey. He always he always thought I
Speaker 1: was Craig Sager. Hey, Sig Siger. Let me, let let
Speaker 1: me hand the trophy to the little guy. And so
Speaker 1: Shack grabbed the MV. He wanted to hand you that
Speaker 1: MVP trophy. It meant you meant that much to him,
Speaker 1: and he wanted that moment there. So I'm so I'm
Speaker 1: so glad he did. I remember that moment. I remember
Speaker 1: like winning the championship and being in the back of
Speaker 1: the line and everybody was like, yo, Dee, go to
Speaker 1: the front, go to the front. I'm like why, They're like, yo,
Speaker 1: You're about to get MVP. And I remember seeing Shack
Speaker 1: grabbed the trophy and hand it all to me, and
Speaker 1: at that moment, I just remembered everything he told me,
Speaker 1: Like Shaq told me I was going to be one
Speaker 1: of the greatest to play the game. Shaq told me
Speaker 1: I was one of the best in the game. And
Speaker 1: for it to be one year out that he came
Speaker 1: to be able to be hosting up not only a
Speaker 1: NBA Championship but a finals MVP Trophia twenty four years old, Like,
Speaker 1: thank you pretty good. Did he ever run around practice
Speaker 1: naked all the time? Yeah? I know there are a
Speaker 1: lot of guys who are scarred for life because Shaq
Speaker 1: would come out and run around the practice naked. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He never got me, but he got a lot of guys. Hey,
Speaker 1: I love the book. Congratulations and always great to catch
Speaker 1: up with you man, Thank you, I appreciate it. Duwayne
Speaker 1: Wayne the book, it's a photographic memoir called Duayne. It's
Speaker 1: released today. Never before seeing photos of his life on
Speaker 1: and off the court, as he talked about where he
Speaker 1: grew up Inner City Chicago and the perspective as an
Speaker 1: athlete as he looks back on his career and he's
Speaker 1: doing an awful lot, you know, affiliate with the Utah
Speaker 1: Jazz where he's one of his sons is in the
Speaker 1: G League with the Utah Jazz. But always great to
Speaker 1: catch up with him. Yeah, I just I never forget
Speaker 1: that that I'm I'm there and we're gonna go live
Speaker 1: on TV and I hear Shack behind me, Hey, hey, cigarette,
Speaker 1: can I can let me let me hand the trophy
Speaker 1: the little guy and I And so they're counting me
Speaker 1: in my ear like Ryan coming back in five, Hey sire,
Speaker 1: let me let me hand hand hand the little guy
Speaker 1: of the trophy and I I'll go okay. And then
Speaker 1: Shack grabbed the MVP because he wanted a hand it,
Speaker 1: hand it to Dwayne Wade. He didn't have many scholarship offers,
Speaker 1: and I think he had maybe three or four. That
Speaker 1: was it, you know, with going to Marquette. Imagine you
Speaker 1: have your draft party and somebody says, Michael Jordan can't
Speaker 1: get in. You're like, yeah, right, yeah, I got a
Speaker 1: bunch of guys on motorcycles out there, Michael Jordan can't
Speaker 1: get in. Yeah right, No, No, Michael Jordan wants to
Speaker 1: get in, and then you run and you're like, Mike,
Speaker 1: you know, come on in. He's probably like, nah not. Now,
Speaker 1: you know, that's the fun part of this when when
Speaker 1: you start and you're covering players, you see them when
Speaker 1: they come in, and you see them when they retire,
Speaker 1: and you know, to be able to do that for
Speaker 1: players since nineteen sixty nine, nineteen seventies when I first
Speaker 1: really watched the NBA, didn't start covering it until early eighties.
Speaker 1: But you're seeing careers now, you're seeing the sons of
Speaker 1: those careers that you followed. Pretty crazy, Tim Hardaway Junior,
Speaker 1: Steph Curry with Del Curry. I mean, it's it's pretty amazing. Yeah, seton.
Speaker 1: Who the hell You're at an NBA draft party in
Speaker 1: the city of Chicago and you're like, sorry, Michael Jordan,
Speaker 1: you don't have the right wrist band. I don't know,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna you're not letting them in. Who the
Speaker 1: hell doesn't I could see where if it's you know,
Speaker 1: Boston or LA, you might not allow Jordan just because
Speaker 1: of the rivalry. But you're in Chicago, Mike shows up
Speaker 1: on a motorcycle, a local kid gets drafted. What the heck?
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Speaker 1: couple of phone calls in here Kyle in California, Hi, Kyle,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? DP? You guys are talking
Speaker 1: about Stephen KD after watching Russ play these first fifteen
Speaker 1: games with the Lakers. God bless KD. For playing with
Speaker 1: that man as long as he did. I mean, I
Speaker 1: can see why he wanted to go play with Golden State. Literally,
Speaker 1: Russ can't get out of his own way. He can't.
Speaker 1: He won't stop shooting three Damn the Lakers. I'm already,
Speaker 1: I mean, and then watching Lonzo and Carusoe last night,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh my god. And then KOs and Montrese,
Speaker 1: I mean, Montrese whatever, But can ct and Ko's in Washington,
Speaker 1: like Woul. I'd rather have those guys or Russ. I'm nervous.
Speaker 1: I'm worried. Yeah, you should be. You know, it's fifteen
Speaker 1: games in Yeah, but I keep saying, let me wait
Speaker 1: till Lebron comes back, and then let's see how this
Speaker 1: team looks, let's say in January. But it comes down to,
Speaker 1: you know, if Anthony Davis wants to be one of
Speaker 1: the best players in the game, then he can carry
Speaker 1: the Lakers. I don't think Lebron can do it, not
Speaker 1: on a night in a night out basis. And I
Speaker 1: don't want Russell Westbrook to do it. And then you're
Speaker 1: going to rely on the younger players on the roster. Well,
Speaker 1: are they going to contribute the same thing as Golden
Speaker 1: State's reserves or bench or supporting cast, because Golden State
Speaker 1: has a really deep team and you do have some
Speaker 1: older guys with Steph Clay and Draymond, but you've got
Speaker 1: a lot of younger guys there and that's what you
Speaker 1: need for, you know, reinforcements for the regular season. It's
Speaker 1: just I don't know what to expect. Phoenix is going
Speaker 1: to be there again, Denver will be there again, and
Speaker 1: you know, Golden State is going to be there again.
Speaker 1: But I just don't know. I don't expect it much
Speaker 1: out of the Clippers Lakers right now. I'm big question mark.
Speaker 1: They're not a good team. No, they're average right now
Speaker 1: at best. Yeah, Levin, can they be like a number
Speaker 1: seven seed and then put it all together at the
Speaker 1: end and be oh that's dangerous? Sure, I mean that's
Speaker 1: a tough out if you're facing them as a seven
Speaker 1: seed or a sixth seed. But you know, I just
Speaker 1: don't know. Lebron is gonna get to that point where
Speaker 1: it's he's just not going to be able to be
Speaker 1: Lebron when he wants to be. And you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: you're the last to know it, but you're watching Lebron
Speaker 1: and it's a little bit different. You know, I talked
Speaker 1: about that there was no coincidence he was shooting jumper
Speaker 1: shooting threes to start the year. That was That was no.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like, oh, he's shooting threes, Like I
Speaker 1: think he's trying to take the workload away from that.
Speaker 1: He can get to the hoop anytime he wants to.
Speaker 1: He can still go right every single time. There's no
Speaker 1: better finisher in my opinion, of getting to the hoop
Speaker 1: than Lebron. And you know, he's going right and he's
Speaker 1: gonna He's just so powerful that he could get there
Speaker 1: when he wants to. It's just the wear and tear,
Speaker 1: and I think he's going to try to conserve his
Speaker 1: energy pace and see if he can survive this marathon here.
Speaker 1: But that's why I think they brought in Russell Westbrook
Speaker 1: instead of Buddy Healed. They wanted to let Russ run
Speaker 1: the offense. You know, he's got one speed and it's
Speaker 1: full speed ahead, but that's not conducive to playing great basketball.
Speaker 1: And when they have to have Russ play a different role,
Speaker 1: is he capable of doing that? And I don't know. Also,
Speaker 1: I talked to somebody last night and he's affiliated with
Speaker 1: the team, but he's not affiliated with Dallas or the Nets.
Speaker 1: And we were talking and I said, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: does Kyrie does he come back? And he goes, I
Speaker 1: would still see him going to Dallas for Kris Stops
Speaker 1: Porzingis and I go really goes, yeah, yeah he can.
Speaker 1: He can go and play in Dallas and Texas going
Speaker 1: to be friendlier with the vaccine and dates and what's
Speaker 1: asked of and whatever. And I said, okay, because he said, hey,
Speaker 1: I heard you talking about Ben Simmons for Kris Stops.
Speaker 1: He goes. You know, Mark Cuban would probably swing for
Speaker 1: the fences and try to get Kyrie in there and
Speaker 1: have him with Luca and Kris Stops. You'd send him
Speaker 1: back to New York he'd be with the Nets, which
Speaker 1: I don't know if that works either, But you know,
Speaker 1: as it is now, you're getting nothing out of Kyrie,
Speaker 1: so why not get something out of somebody? And Porzingis
Speaker 1: is His last two games have been really good. But
Speaker 1: I mean he's averaging twenty and eight. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: never going to average as much as he should when
Speaker 1: you think somebody that talented. But you know, I think
Speaker 1: he's had a hard time meshing with Luca, and he
Speaker 1: was going to be the star, and then Luca comes in,
Speaker 1: he realizes he's not the star. If you're not going
Speaker 1: to be the star, do you want to be on
Speaker 1: a team like the Nets? It has a chance to
Speaker 1: win the championship. I don't know that if that would
Speaker 1: come to fruition. This is somebody who was with a
Speaker 1: team and said, why not take a swing at Kyrie? Yeah, McLevin,
Speaker 1: who takes a last shot? If Kyrie at the Dallas
Speaker 1: both amazing last minute players. Well, I like having that
Speaker 1: problem if you want to call out a problem now,
Speaker 1: it's like you said, hey, you can have a KD
Speaker 1: or you can have Steph Like there's no wrong answer here,
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Let's see Don in California. Hi Don, what's
Speaker 1: on your mind? Hi Dan? First time? Long time? Um,
Speaker 1: I'm a little older than you. Or I turned the
Speaker 1: car on when you were talking about Michael Jordan and
Speaker 1: Elgim Baylor. Yeah, in today's game, Baylor would be a guard.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you ever had a chance to
Speaker 1: see Baylor in see him play, I don't think you're
Speaker 1: old enough now. He was the year I saw the
Speaker 1: Lakers in seventy one in person, and it's at the
Speaker 1: tail end of Elgin's career. So I only saw highlights
Speaker 1: of him and looked at his staff, even from college
Speaker 1: where I think he averaged twenty points twenty rebounds at
Speaker 1: Seattle University. But I know when we compare these generations
Speaker 1: and it's dangerous there. Yeah, I know Elgin Baylor in
Speaker 1: today's game, well, he wouldn't be the same. I understand
Speaker 1: that Bill Russell wouldn't be either, Bob Coozy wouldn't be either.
Speaker 1: George Mike And wouldn't, Bob Bettett wouldn't. They would adjust
Speaker 1: to the time period because they were still elite basketball players.
Speaker 1: But I know when we go off, Michael played better.
Speaker 1: I know. I don't want to get into that kind
Speaker 1: of discussion. Elgin Baylor was a wonderful player ahead of
Speaker 1: his time, That's all I know. But he was injured.
Speaker 1: He had a knee injury, and I didn't see him
Speaker 1: play in person. Yeah. Point, they do that a lot
Speaker 1: with eros, and they say people now could jump so
Speaker 1: much higher, and that's so much more explosive. Chris Paul
Speaker 1: is pretty good and he can't get rim. You know
Speaker 1: that those players in the seventies, Isaiah Thomas is more
Speaker 1: athletic than Chris Paul. Yeah. Right, So it doesn't just
Speaker 1: work that way. It everyone's more athletic these days. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And look, Bill Russell might be the greatest winner of
Speaker 1: all time, but Bill Russell, you wouldn't need a purse
Speaker 1: a player of his caliber now, like Yokich, isn't athletic.
Speaker 1: He's not winning a dunk contest. He just knows how
Speaker 1: to play. And a lot of times, that's the guy
Speaker 1: who always makes you nervous. It's the guy who knows
Speaker 1: how to play. Because I played against guys who had
Speaker 1: unbelievable athleticism, crazy, but they didn't know how to use it.
Speaker 1: You know, you'd get into warm ups and they were spectacular,
Speaker 1: and then you get in the game and you go,
Speaker 1: why is it he dominated? I mean, Steph Curry is
Speaker 1: I don't know if he can dunk. If he can,
Speaker 1: it's barely. He's not the quickest guy, fastest guy, but
Speaker 1: he knows how to play basketball. Magic. You know, Magic
Speaker 1: knew how to play the game. It wasn't he was
Speaker 1: a great leaper. He didn't have a jump shot. He
Speaker 1: just understood the angles of the game. Larry Bird. They
Speaker 1: understood the angles of the game, and there's something to
Speaker 1: be said about that. It's kind of a lost art
Speaker 1: because there's not as much movement as there used to be,
Speaker 1: you know, backdoor screens, you know, constantly moving without the ball,
Speaker 1: and now it's more of a standaround game. Next hour,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about the Boston Celtics of the mid eighties.
Speaker 1: Dan Shaughnessy of the Boston Globe has a new book.
Speaker 1: Count talk to him. Justin and Arkansas. Let me try
Speaker 1: to squeeze in Justin, what's on your mind? Thanks for
Speaker 1: taking my call. Yeah, second time caller. I wanted to
Speaker 1: First of all, I probably to ask for the last
Speaker 1: time I called. I've made a ridiculous trade proposal. I'm
Speaker 1: the one to say that I would trade done with
Speaker 1: Mitchell for Ben Simmons. Okay, I just want to apologize today,
Speaker 1: but I do have a real trade proposal. What do
Speaker 1: you think about trading Ben Simmons for Russell Wittbrook? Well,
Speaker 1: I don't think Philadelphia wants Russell Westbrook. I wouldn't find
Speaker 1: the Lakers Ben Simmons. I'd have to think about that
Speaker 1: kind of down on Russell Westbrook. Two hours in the books.
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