WEBVTT - 11/16/21 DPS Hour 2 Dwyane Wade 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:03.480 You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:07.160 Sports Radio. Welcome to the program. It's our two on 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:10.000 this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan dan Patrick showed. Dwayne 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:12.040 Wade will join us coming up in a little bit. 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:16.120 Your phone call is always welcome. Each seven seven three 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:19.240 DP Show email address dpat dan Patrick dot com, Twitter 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:21.919 handle a DP show Paulie says, we're going with a 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:25.880 new poll question this hour. Let's give the whole question 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:29.600 from the first hour. Mclovin, we didn't have one. Oh well, Ben, No, 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:31.720 this is really the first pole question. I already put 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:34.800 it up. Okay, who would you pick if you could 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:37.120 have either of these players from the beginning of their 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:41.120 career to start a team around Steph Curry or Kevin 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:47.879 Durant who happened to play tonight in so I can 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:52.040 have them for their entire career. Right, going back to 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:55.880 like what it was two thousand and twenty eleven for 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:58.600 step Okay, let me double check, No, it was earlier 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:03.560 than that. Do you want to get your facts together? Yeah? 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:07.160 I figured we just go what we have. Okay, we'll 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:10.360 just kind of be loose on that two nine ten 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:17.360 with Steph's first year, right, Kevin Durant his career and 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:22.560 that ballpark than mc um so. I can have Kevin 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:25.600 Durant to start his career, his his entire career, or 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:40.080 Steph Curry. Kevin's a better player, but it feels like 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:46.440 Steph is the better weapon in today's In today's NBA, Durant, 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:53.280 you know, can defend. Obviously, He's a mismatch nightmare for anybody. Everybody. 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:57.120 Steph is fascinating. Steph also is a guy you come 0:01:57.120 --> 0:02:00.560 out to see. You know, Kevin Durant is not sighting. 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:02.760 I mean, he's a wonderful player, one of the great 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.600 players of all time. But it's not like you go, yeah, 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:10.760 mid range jumper like it. Steph gives you that entertainment value. 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:16.480 I would say Steph just because I think what he 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:26.080 does is Yeah, that's tough when they do like those 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:28.720 top ESPN has Top one hundred players of all time. 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:31.359 Who ends up higher on the list, Steph or k D. 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:36.360 I don't know with ESPN's rankings, the last one that 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:38.639 came out or if somebody else did the top one 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:42.440 hundred players. Can you look at that and see Durant 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.240 might be in front of Steph. I have Durant with 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:50.200 one MVP Steph with two that means anything. Yeah, I 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:54.960 would say Steph. You know, Durant wanted to join Steph, 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:57.360 and I think that that has to factor in a 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:00.680 little bit that Durant realized that I could win a title. 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:05.280 He was going to join Steph's team. Yeah, Paul, I 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:07.600 guess it's personal preference on this one, because you're getting 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:13.160 two sure things, winners, uncoverable. Yeah. Man, this is this 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:15.440 is as tough as it gets. But but I would 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:18.880 also have to factor in, you know, the entertainment value 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:21.480 of this. If I get Steph and I, my fan 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:24.160 base is going to come out. They're gonna watch Steph. 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:28.079 Durant is just gonna you know, he's methodical. He just 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:33.080 you know, every night you can plug him in. You 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:36.360 know what either was, They're not a wrong answer here. Now. 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:39.600 I like my chances. Yeah, McLevin so ESPN put out 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:42.040 a Top hundred in May of twenty and twenty. I 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:44.920 think we debated this. They have Steph at thirteen and 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:49.400 Kadi at fourteen. Okay, right there. Yeah, I wonder which 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:52.600 one goes into the top ten or both go into 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:56.480 the top ten, and then who comes out, because who's 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:59.560 in the top ten right now. Well, just ahead of 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:03.640 them is Oscar Robinson is at Robertson. Robertson is at eleven. 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:07.720 Uh see, Akim is at twelve. I have to get 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:10.160 to the ten lists. Yeah, Paul Curry's kind of like 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:12.400 I don't want quarterback. You compare him too, But he 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:16.359 could use another MVP. He could use another title's It 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:18.360 hasn't been that long. But they went on that little 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:20.760 run and then they had injuries and so forth. But 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:22.839 they're back to that core group if they could, if 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:24.159 he could get one more title, it would do to 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.520 him like what a title would do for Aaron Rodgers, 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:30.880 or a title did for Peyton Manning. Yeah, yeah, or 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:35.479 Russell Wilson, one of those guys that's only has one 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:37.560 still has a little bit of time to win another one. 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:41.080 But yeah, if Steph, you know, I like them last 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:42.920 year and then Clay got hurt, and then I liked 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:45.680 them a lot this year. Although mcklevin goes, you know, 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:48.240 Golden State has won all those games playing at home, 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:52.160 I go and like, you're, well, I would just say 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:55.159 they'll come back to earth a little bit if they've 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:58.520 played a lot of games at home. Therefore, you're supposed 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:00.880 to win those games at home. Oh, definitely, But you 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:03.880 know the NBA works. It's all who'd you play last night? 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:06.839 Who'd you play last night? Are you on the road. 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:09.880 It's all to say. Rest. The Phoenix Suns have won 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:12.160 nine in a row. They beat the Timberwolves last night, 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:15.120 as mclovin pointed out that the Suns are on the 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:17.800 heels at Golden State. Yeah, they should be good this year. 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:20.479 It's just Golden State is doing this and they don't 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:25.240 have Clay Thompson back. They're two rookies they drafted haven't 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:29.160 played much. And then James Wiseman, who was a you know, 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:32.400 a top five draft pick, hasn't played much. They got 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:35.240 depth there. I did watch the Lakers against the Bulls. 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:40.039 Lonzo Ball hits seven out of ten three pointers last night. 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:43.880 Anthony Davis got thrown from the game. It just goes 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:47.520 back to and I know that Lebron's not there. You know, 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.320 let me wait until after Christmas, which I keep saying, 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:54.520 But you got to want to play defense and share 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:58.279 the ball, wanted and if that's sort of the theme 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:00.919 with this team the rest of this season, they're going 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:03.200 to be an average team. I can't put all of 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:05.799 this on Russell Westbrook. I think he's trying too hard. 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:07.880 He's trying to figure out how do I fit in? 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:10.720 You know, I'm usually the alpha here. You know, how 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:12.839 much do I try to take over? How much do 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:16.240 I defer? It comes down to the following. If Anthony 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:18.719 Davis is one of the top five players in the NBA, 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:21.839 then the Lakers will be okay. If he's not, I 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.320 don't think you can rely on Westbrook. You can't rely 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:28.880 on Lebron as well, not every single night. But I 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:31.919 don't know if Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis should be the 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.760 Greek Freak. He was the Greek Freak before the Greek Freak. 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:37.919 It's just there is this inner drive with the Greek 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:40.840 Freak to be great. I don't know if we've seen 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:43.840 Anthony Davis's best work, but it feels like we have. 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:47.359 I don't think we've seen the best of the Greek Freak, 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.240 which is pretty scary. Yeahpo, I had a staff you 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:53.360 on your Warriors. They're winning their games by an average 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:56.000 of thirteen point three points. No one else in the 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:58.800 league is over seven points. They're winning marchin Yeah, but 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:02.880 they're win at home, Oh, come on three and one 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:07.080 on the road. Dan, Okay, we'll see how this road 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:12.560 trip ends out. Warriors at the Nets and seventy six 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:16.640 ers at the Utah Jazz. The Niners handled the Rams 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:20.800 thirty one. Ten Odell Beckham Junior, the third made his debut. 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:24.080 He did okay. I mean I didn't expect much out 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:27.560 of him. Von Miller made his debut. I didn't expect 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:29.680 much out of him. I did expect a lot out 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:34.440 of Jalen Ramsey and Aaron Donald and Jimmy Garoppolo. Jimmy 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:38.960 Garoppolo didn't do much, although his quarterback rating was one 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:42.640 forty seven nine, the highest of his career, as he 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.440 threw for two touchdowns one hundred eighty two yards. They 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.720 ran the football. They run the football every time they 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:52.640 played the Rams, and they've beaten them five consecutive times. 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:57.480 If you're not gonna have any pass rush, then chances 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:03.160 are Jimmy Garoppolo can look like bart starback there. Here 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:07.200 is the schedule here bye week for the Rams, then 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:12.280 at Green Bay host Jacksonville at Arizona host Seattle at 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:16.840 Minnesota at Baltimore. Then San Francisco comes to town to 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:22.280 end the regular season, got to win the division, got 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:24.920 to get that home field advantage to start out with. 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:29.520 If not, then this experiment is not going to end 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:32.960 well this year. It doesn't mean it won't be long 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:36.880 term or longer term next year. Still, you know a 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:40.360 team to reckon with that They went all in Obviously, 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:42.440 they went all in before they got von Miller and 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:47.080 before they got Odell Beckham Junior the third. So Shack 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:53.280 is ten, is Kobe Kobe nine or eight? Nine? Tim 0:08:53.360 --> 0:09:01.040 Duncan is eight. Let's see, Larry Legend is next to seven, 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:12.360 Wilted six, Magic at five, Bill Russell four, Kareem at three, 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:15.400 Lebron at two, and Mike at one. Yeah. I hesitated 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:17.240 to bring this up because I probably gonna get crush. 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:20.360 Is Tim Duncan worthy of that? I know his resume is, 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:22.920 and the team he was on, and the coach and 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.680 the players he was with. Is he drastically better than 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:29.559 Charles Barkley as an individual player? Not resume? Yeah, but 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:32.079 that doesn't That's not how it works. Okay, I mean 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:37.000 this is resume. Tim Duncan without those championships is not 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.200 sniffing the top twenty. Okay, I guess what I'm saying 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:42.240 is if I would rather have Barkley, if I could 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:45.120 sign one in his prime over Tim Duncan, and that 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:48.040 maybe that's nuts for a lot of reasons on and 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:51.720 off the court. Just like Steph Curry's entertaining, I would 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:54.920 take Charles Barkley. I think Charles Barkley's underrated because he's 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:59.160 so good in the media. I would take Tim Duncan 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:01.120 because I knew exa. Actually, when I'm going to get 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:03.080 with Charles, I don't know what I'm going to get. 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:08.920 And sometimes that's spectacular. It's I mean, he's unique. There's 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:12.720 nobody his size who's done what he's done. Elgin Baylor 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:14.959 is similar for those who are a little bit older, 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:17.800 you know, because Elgin felt like you know, he was 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:20.200 six to five, maybe six six, but he was an 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:23.760 unbelievable jumper, and really he was ahead of his time 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:26.079 in the NBA. But Charles at six four and a 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:29.400 half maybe six five, and he wasn't afraid of going 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:31.679 in there against anybody. But now you got to put 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:34.320 Duncan in there, and he's he's one of the great 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:36.760 players of all time. You may not like his game, 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:39.280 there was nothing where you go that's a signature play. 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:43.240 But Duncan was great. Yeah, Nickle, want to take a 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:46.360 guess where our upcoming guest, Dwayne Wade lands on this list? 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:56.920 Twenty twenty again, nineteen a little lower, what PAULI? That 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:58.520 was the number that's going through my head. That's a 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:03.560 great guess between Yannis and Kawhile know, I was trying 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.000 to guess what Paulie was going to get and he's 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:08.680 I said nineteen. I would say Dwayne Wade right around 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:13.440 twenty five twenty six. Yeah, that's not bad. Yeah, all right, 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:16.320 let's take a break all of him. Ask Dwayne Wade. 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:18.640 So we're gonna ask him. Then you can have Steph 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:22.720 Curry's career or Kevin Durant's career, right, or is there 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:24.840 a different question? Who would you build a team around? 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:27.319 Because you said Kevin Durant's a better player. I think 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:31.080 most people agree with that, But yeah, I would build 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:34.360 it around Steph because there's just a there's still a 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:37.040 fascination with him. All right, we'll take a break. Dwayne 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:39.000 Wade will join us. We'll get to more phone calls 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:42.240 as well, and we say good morning to Peacock or 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:46.000 streaming partner also or radio affiliates around the country and 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:49.360 we'll take a break back after this. You want to 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:52.679 hear something amazing, Discover matches all the cash Backer you 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:54.640 were going to earn on your credit card at the 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:56.720 end of your first year, automatically, no limit on how 0:11:56.800 --> 0:12:00.240 much you can earn. 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It's called Dwayne. It's release today featuring 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:01.960 never be for Seeing photos from his life on and 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:05.040 off the court. And of course he's doing a whole 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:09.280 lot since uh he stopped playing basketball. You know what, Dwayne, 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:12.120 we talk about Lebron is a high school football player. 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:15.760 Nobody ever talks about you in your high school football career? 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:18.520 Why why is that at Richard's High school? What kind 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:22.360 of player were you? It was short lived, Dad, it was. 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:25.120 It was about two three year run. It was very 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:30.360 short lived. Okay, but are there any highlights? You know 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.080 what I believe I was. I thought I was a 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:35.959 better football player than I probably was. Like in my mind, 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:38.400 I was like I was the next Randy Moss, but 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:42.480 really I probably wasn't that good. Did you mind getting hit? 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:47.560 I didn't. It wasn't my favorite thing, you know, Like 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:49.800 you're not waking up saying I want to get hit, 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:51.640 Like it wasn't my favorite thing to do at all. 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:56.559 So I told the right sport you're attack mode. When 0:13:56.600 --> 0:14:00.800 did you start attacking the basket? Well, I've always I've 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:03.000 always done that. You know when I when I was younger, 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:06.160 I was so small, and you know, I couldn't get 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:07.800 my shot off over big guys. So I had to 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:11.200 use my speed and my quickness. So, um, that's the 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:12.880 only way I was able to score or play with 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:15.720 my dad or my brothers or my uncle. So I 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:18.480 always had that. Who did you monel your game after 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:22.000 when you were younger? Well, Dan grown up in Chicago, 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:25.080 Michael Jordan. I mean it's you know, it's the greatest player, 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:27.760 you know, in my generation, in my time. And to 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:30.240 be able to grow up and in Chicago and be 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:33.120 able to tune into w G and news and to 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:35.920 be able to watch my favorite player, uh, night in 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:38.800 and night out. I mean every move he did, yeah, 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:41.320 everything he you know, he said, how he walked. I 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:45.520 tried to emulate everything. But at what point do you 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:51.360 realize you can't be Michael that style? Um, I mean 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:53.960 I just kept trying. I feel like, if you know, 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:55.440 I say this in my book, I feel like, if 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:56.880 you reach for the stars, I mean, if you reach 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:58.560 for the moon, you come down with a few stars. 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:00.960 And so you know, if I shoot to be someone 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:04.480 on the level of Michael Jordan's um, then me falling 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:07.760 short of that is still still pretty high up. What 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:10.360 is the picture in the book that brings out of motion? 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:13.120 Is there one that you would say, whenever I look 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:17.520 at that photo it elicits something. Yeah, it's it's the 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.760 photo in the first quarter of my book where you 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.760 will see the building that I grew up in. Um, 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:26.320 it's all fifty nine and prairie. And when I look 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:29.400 at that photo, just all the all the moments of 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:32.080 my life comes comes rushing back. You know. All I 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:35.560 can think about is little Duane, and I can think 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:39.240 about Duane, and I can think about everything that his family, 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.320 you know, was going through, everything that he went through, 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:45.640 everything he's been through, and to be here right now. 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:47.920 So I can look back at that photo and I 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:50.560 could be proud of my journey. But I also can 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:52.880 look back at the photo and see the responsibility in 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:56.040 my journey because I know that's other. You know, young 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:59.120 Duane's out there. Um, that that needs the same thing 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:02.400 I needed, and that that that idoled that vision that 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:05.960 image because you make a wrong turn turn, you you 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:09.600 make a wrong decision, like, like, you're it's different where 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:11.760 you grew up. You know, if you if you make 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:15.480 the wrong choice, you know, it could be something really serious, 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:19.120 something really bad. Did you have sort of somebody who 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:21.480 was watching out, a guardian angel watching out for you. 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:25.560 I feel like I feel like I've had so many, 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.680 so many guardian angels in my life. You know, I've 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:31.960 watched my mother and I talk about in my book, 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:35.360 I watched my mother take the wrong step or take 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:37.440 a step that just it took a while to get 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:39.440 back from. You know what I mean. It's like a 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:41.800 case that's the wrong step because it's the step in 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:45.080 her journey and her path um that you know that 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:48.520 I needed to be able to take the different step, 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:50.600 you know, like, Okay, I'm not gonna left from going right. 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:53.520 But we all have those moments, right, We all have 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:55.640 those moments where we take a step, and sometimes it 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:57.240 takes us a little loan to get back up and 0:16:57.280 --> 0:16:59.360 get back on the right path. And so for me 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:01.920 as a father, there that's been my main goal. My 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:04.359 main goal has been how do I help you know 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:07.040 as much as possible, how do I level how do 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:10.480 I help eliminate those those steps that take you a 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:12.320 long time to get up from. But do you think 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:15.000 you would have been the basketball player the man you 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:18.240 are if you had grown up in your environment that 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:21.280 you're in now that your kids are growing up in. Um, 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:24.120 If that makes sense to you, like what you where 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:26.840 you grow up, how you grew up as opposed to 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:29.800 having a little easier life, would you have been the 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:32.240 same kind of player? Do you think? I mean, it 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:34.440 would have looked a little different. You know. I look 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:37.560 at someone like Steph Curry and it Steph Curry grew 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:39.520 up with his father in the NBA, you know, obviously 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:41.920 grew up and having a very great life from the 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:45.600 from the standpoint of the visual of you know, successful father, 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.720 mother and dad together, you know, in the family, and 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:50.919 look at him, you know he still goes out and 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:54.680 accomplished things that no one in the game has seen yet. 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:57.840 And So if that hunger is inside of you to 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:02.040 want to be great individually, if you won't before your life, UM, 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:04.200 then I don't think it. I don't think it matters 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:08.880 from that standpoint. Did the gangs leave you alone? They did? 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:11.720 I was covered. My family was. My family had some 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:14.280 high positions in games when I was growing up so 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:16.320 they kind of left me alone and let me play basketball. 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:20.919 How did that work out? Well? It worked out. It 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:23.119 worked out good from from the sense of, you know, 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:25.880 I didn't never I never had to worry about, you know, anything, 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:28.080 from the standpoint of someone trying to take advantage of 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:30.000 me because of the family that I grew up in. 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:32.120 You know, it was more so like that's Diana little 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:34.800 better leave him alone. You know, my sister had a 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:36.880 lot of rank in the city of Chicago, and so 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:38.840 they didn't mess with me. They didn't mess with out 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:42.240 a family a lot. Were they they afraid of your sister? Yeah? 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:47.879 My sister had hands Dan like it wasn't afraid of me. 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:53.280 I want you to play GM. We were just talking 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:55.960 about this. I'm gonna let you start your team with 0:18:56.960 --> 0:19:04.600 Steph or KD. You get that their entire career, who 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:09.159 do they both stay health? It entire career? Their career 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:13.240 is their career. STEP's been injured, Kadi has been injured. Okay, 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:20.320 Oh that's a tough one. I'm gonna go with Steph. 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:22.639 That's what I went with. Why did you go with 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:26.480 Steff over KD? Well, it doesn't it won't make any sense. 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:28.920 You can close your eyes and pick. But I guess 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:32.080 I went with Steph because Steph is kind of a 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:36.200 revolutionized the sport. You know, he's one of those Mount 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:39.600 Rushmore's from the sense of changing the game the way 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:41.720 he has, and so I had I give him a 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:44.240 little a little nod. Do you care where you're ranked 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:47.600 on these lists all time list? I think your ESPN 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:52.440 had the top one hundred, you're twenty sixth. No no, no, no, 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:55.560 that's all subjective. I mean that you know, it depends 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:57.240 on what day, how do you wake up? Was your 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:00.239 coffee better that day? Did you you know? I mean, 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:02.520 like I don't, I don't worry about that, but you 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:05.000 do want to be named. You know, for me being 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:07.639 named on the top seventy five, that was important. That 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:10.119 was very important for me to to be recognized as 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:12.080 one of the greatest players to play the game. The 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:15.119 number that you put people, you know that that right 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:17.680 there could be a conversation and discussion that we would 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:20.040 never hear the end up. But to be a part 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:22.800 of that, that elite group that specially for me. But 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:26.760 you're competitive, like they're part of you that says I 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:31.040 was better than him? No, no, no, because like when 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:33.360 you get up to that level, you're you're you're you're 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:36.199 going against guys that you've never you never played against, 0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:39.199 that you maybe had a chance to see play, you 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:40.840 know what I mean, and that level of greatness. These 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:43.080 are players who some players I have never seen. But 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:45.119 then I'm right there with like Charles Barkley, who I 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:46.760 got to see play, who I was a huge fan 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:49.280 of and thought he was an amazing player, right, And 0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:53.159 so to me just to be in that discussion, then 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:54.959 I come from nothing. I could come from the NY 0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:56.960 city of Chicago. You know, really when they say you 0:20:57.000 --> 0:20:58.520 don't suppose it, like how did I get here? I 0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:00.639 was supposed to be here. It's literally have been a 0:21:00.640 --> 0:21:02.240 lot of things that tried to knock me down and 0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:04.600 not allow me to, you know, to be standing here. 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:07.000 So to be still standing and to be on that list, 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:08.800 I don't care where you put me. What was it 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:13.040 like first time he met Jordan? First time I met 0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:15.920 Michael Jordan, It was like a it was a scene 0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:18.040 out of a movie. Like I was at I was 0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:21.159 at my draft party in Chicago, and I'm in a 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:23.119 party and I'm dancing. My cousin comes and tapped me 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:25.000 on the should and he say, hey, they won't let 0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:29.080 Michael Jordan in. He's outside. I'm like then, I'm like, 0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:31.399 stop playing with me. And he was like no. He 0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:32.960 was looking on his face, and so we took off. 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:35.399 He ran and so I run outside bus through the 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:39.160 doors and Michael Jordan is sitting outside on a motorcycle 0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:42.400 with about thirty or forty dudes behind them, and it's 0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:44.040 like a scene out of a movie. And I'm walking 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:46.600 closer and closer, and I'm like, this is like, this 0:21:46.640 --> 0:21:48.959