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Speaker 1: going to talk about the one plus Open. This is

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Speaker 1: So I like the Tesla, but it was a little complicated.

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Speaker 1: thing I will say about the Tesla. We had a

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Speaker 2: And I'm not kidding.

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Speaker 1: This car came at me sideways on the highway and

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Speaker 1: And by the way, please do not text and drive.

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Speaker 1: Please do not fumble with your phone while you're driving.

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Speaker 1: absolutely do this, and it will do some other basic

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Speaker 1: things as well. Now I do think you're gonna need

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Speaker 1: to set up an iCloud account to do this, so

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Speaker 1: if you don't have that, it's free, you can do that.

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Speaker 1: But the feature is called family set up, and you

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Speaker 1: actually need to use your daughter's iPhone to do this.

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Speaker 1: So once you reset the Apple Watch, go into settings

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Speaker 1: and factory reset it. That'll bring it to like a

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Speaker 1: fresh start. Use your phone, your daughter's iPhone to set

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Speaker 1: up the Apple Watch, and it will say are you

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Speaker 1: setting this up for yourself or a family member? And

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Speaker 1: you are the family member, so say yes, I'm setting

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Speaker 1: this up for a family member, and it will guide

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Speaker 1: you through the process of setting up that phone for

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Speaker 1: you and not her phone, so all of your stuff

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Speaker 1: will be just on the watch. It will be separate

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Speaker 1: from anything that she has on her account. But like

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Speaker 1: own iCloud account just so that Apple can keep track

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Speaker 1: of everything and make sure that you've got your own

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Speaker 1: account on there, so you can set that up for

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Speaker 1: free during the setup time. And if you just want

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Speaker 1: to use the time and the watch, that's fine, but

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Speaker 1: you can use other features. I mean, you could use

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Speaker 1: like you know, the stop watch, the calendar. My kids

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Speaker 1: have Apple Watches and they use them independent of a phone,

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Speaker 1: and they do a whole bunch of stuff. They've even

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Speaker 1: downloaded little games on there. So there are definitely things

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Speaker 1: you can do on the Apple Watch even if you

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Speaker 1: don't have an iPhone. And this is because a lot

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Speaker 1: of people use these for their kids or even adults

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Speaker 1: that where you want to be able to keep track

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Speaker 2: So there are many many reasons.

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Speaker 1: Why you might want to set this up this way,

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Speaker 1: but it can be done very easily. A good question Isabelle,

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for writing Let's see. Rob from Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles says, Hey, Rich, I follow you on social media

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Speaker 1: and your podcast, and I think you're pretty funny and informative.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, thank you, Rob. I have a question about

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Speaker 1: two factor authentication apps. I use two FA open source

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Speaker 1: app and Microsoft Authenticator app on my accounts. What if

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Speaker 1: I want to stop using Microsoft Authenticator and switch to

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Speaker 1: the two FA app?

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Speaker 2: Will that create.

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Speaker 1: Conflict since my accounts were accepting codes generated by the

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Speaker 1: app the Microsoft app before, or do I have to

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Speaker 1: stick with the same Authenticator app once I attach the

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Speaker 1: account to one app.

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Speaker 2: Please explain.

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Speaker 1: Thanks in advance, Rob in Los Angeles, Rob, great question.

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Speaker 1: Now it's interesting because I don't I don't talk about

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Speaker 1: they are very very important. And if you've heard of

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Speaker 1: me talk about securing your online accounts, there are two

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Speaker 1: ways you do that. Number one, very strong password, unique

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Speaker 1: with a two factor authentication enabled on your account. And

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Speaker 1: there are two ways of doing that, and this is

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Speaker 1: why it gets a little bit complicated. And I don't

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Speaker 1: And the simplest way to do two factor authentication is

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Speaker 1: with the text message code. And so you put in

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Speaker 1: your phone number on something like Instagram and it says, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're going to text you every time you try to

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Speaker 1: log in. If you don't give us that secret code

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Speaker 1: that we text you, we're not going to allow this

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Speaker 1: log in to happen. Well, the problem is that the

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Speaker 1: cell phones and phone numbers are a little bit easier

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Speaker 1: hacked than we'd like, and so some people could get

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Speaker 1: a hold of your cell phone number or intercept that

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Speaker 1: code and hack you still even if you have two

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Speaker 1: factor on. But it's still a very good way to

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Speaker 1: protect your account in most, like ninety nine percent of cases.

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Speaker 1: But if you really want to be safe and secure,

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Speaker 1: what you want to do is use one of these

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Speaker 1: two factor authentication apps. And what these apps do is

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Speaker 1: they generate a unique code every thirty seconds or so,

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Speaker 1: and when you want to log in, you just go

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Speaker 1: to this app and you check out the code and

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Speaker 1: you just type it in. And again that's the second factor.

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Speaker 1: The first is you logging into the account. The second

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Speaker 1: is this app that is generating a code. Now, the

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Speaker 1: app is nice because it is independent of your phone number.

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Speaker 1: So if you switch phone lines, if you get a

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Speaker 1: different carrier, if you get rid of your phone number altogether,

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Speaker 1: you don't lose those ways to log into your account

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Speaker 1: because you can no longer access those codes. You can

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Speaker 1: get them on this app no matter what service you're using.

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Speaker 1: So that's why I like to use this service whenever possible.

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Speaker 1: And there are apps called authie. There are Google Authenticator,

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Speaker 1: there's Microsoft Authenticator. There are several of these authentication apps

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Speaker 1: out there. You just have to pick one that you like.

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Speaker 1: I would personally say pick one that does not have

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Speaker 1: paying for this down the line over time.

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Speaker 2: So the question rob is can you switch apps?

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Speaker 1: And I had to do some research on this one,

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Speaker 1: but I looked up on Wired had an article about this.

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Speaker 1: And it's funny because I've been not wanting to switch

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Speaker 1: be done. And so, as I suspected, you basically have

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Speaker 1: to disable the two factor authentication temporarily and then re

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Speaker 1: enable it using the new app. And the way that

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Speaker 1: you do that is once you enable it. Typically, you

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Speaker 1: just scan a QR code on your screen to enable

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Speaker 1: this two factor authentication. It links up and then all

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Speaker 1: of your codes are right on that app. So, for instance,

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Speaker 1: I use an app and I've got all of my

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Speaker 1: codes on here for Twitter, I've got it for my Facebook,

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Speaker 1: I've got it for my website at work, I've got

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Speaker 1: it for my Instagram. And so of course the number

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Speaker 1: one thing you're thinking is, well, what if someone hacks

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got to be careful.

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Speaker 1: And this is why you have to have a password

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Speaker 1: on your phone or face ID or a fingerprint scanner,

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Speaker 1: and there is a log in for that app as well.

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Speaker 1: So again, all of these things do require a little

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Speaker 1: setting things up so that they work. And I know

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Speaker 1: people get very hesitant to set this stuff up because

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Speaker 1: it sounds so complicated and it feels like you're never

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Speaker 1: gonna be able to get into your your logins when

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Speaker 1: you need to. But believe me, I will tell you

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Speaker 1: I get emails every single day, every single day from

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Speaker 1: people that get hacked on Facebook, on Instagram, on their email.

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Speaker 1: And when you do that, there is no guarantee that

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Speaker 1: you're getting that account back. And I have people that

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Speaker 1: are saying, rich, I have my photos on there, I

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Speaker 1: have my emails, I have all kinds of personal data

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Speaker 1: that I will never be able to get back, and

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Speaker 1: I say, you know what, I'm sorry, but the reality

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Speaker 1: is you have to lock down these accounts, and most

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Speaker 1: people just don't want to. And if you don't, you

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Speaker 1: will be hacked. I'm telling you that because it's not

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Speaker 1: like they're they're targeting you. They are just coming after

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Speaker 1: a lot of people. By the way, coming up on

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Speaker 1: the show, we've got a couple of great guests. Marcel

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Speaker 1: Campos is going to talk about the one plus Open.

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Speaker 1: This is a new foldable phone. After the break, i'll

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Speaker 1: tell you some details about that phone. And Michael Sino

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Speaker 1: Google he is a Google cybersecurity expert, and we had

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Speaker 1: a great conversation about some of these ways you can

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Speaker 1: protect yourself and some of it is pretty basic, like

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Speaker 1: I said, the two factor authentication, but Google is also

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Speaker 1: pushing this new way of authentication called pass keys, and

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Speaker 1: this actually uses your phone as.

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Speaker 2: Almost an authentication app.

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Speaker 1: So instead of actually using that app to generate a code,

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Speaker 1: go to a website and it says, hey, you log

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Speaker 1: in with your password, and then it says, okay, now

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Speaker 1: go to your phone and okay that log in and

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Speaker 1: you scan your fingerprint on your phone or you scan

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Speaker 1: you log into the website. So again, we're basically protecting

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Speaker 1: ourselves from phishing attempts, from scam attempts, from all this

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Speaker 1: stuff because there are people out there twenty four to

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Speaker 2: Are trying to figure out how to hack us.

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Speaker 1: And believe me, it's pretty easy because there's so many

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Speaker 1: people out there that just are wide open. So it's

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Speaker 1: it's not that tough for them to do this stuff.

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Speaker 1: But when it happens, it's not good. All right, Phone

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Speaker 1: You have a question about technology. My name is Rich

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Speaker 1: d'miro and you are listening to Rich on tech. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to Rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here talking tech

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Speaker 1: with you. You can follow me on social media. I'm

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Speaker 1: at rich on tech, on Instagram, Facebook, X and threads,

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Speaker 1: and I usually go over what I posted to uh Instagram.

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Speaker 1: This previous week, ooh, I posted some pictures I was

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Speaker 1: So if you want to see them and see some

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Speaker 1: I posted a tip about you ever be on the

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Speaker 1: iPhone and it shows you like, hey, would you like

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Speaker 1: to rate this app on the app Store and it

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Speaker 1: right in the middle of what you're trying to do.

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Speaker 1: So I posted a tip on how to get rid

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Speaker 1: to do that anymore. I also posted this cool light

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Speaker 1: up clothing. It's let's see what's it called. It's called

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Speaker 1: go Glow by Pat Pat and these are really fun.

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Speaker 1: I always try to do something like unique and techie

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Speaker 1: for Halloween.

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Speaker 2: So these are light up clothing.

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Speaker 1: So they have like a skeleton on them that lights

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Speaker 1: this type of clothing before that lights up. This is

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Speaker 1: the best I've seen because the battery pack is so tiny,

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Speaker 1: it's rechargeable, it's USBC, and the clothes are washable too.

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Speaker 2: Some of the other ones I've.

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Speaker 1: Tried in the past they have like these big cables

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Speaker 2: This one, it's all self contained. It's very very cool.

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Speaker 1: And then finally, have you heard of Fingerlings? These are

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Speaker 1: they are kind of an animated I don't know, it

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Speaker 1: looks like almost like a monkey, and it's really really cute.

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Speaker 1: And so I was talking to the creator of the fingerlings.

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Speaker 1: She's got a new product out, so we were talking about that,

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Speaker 1: and then she showed me the old one that sort

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Speaker 1: of you know, gave her a pretty big name because

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Speaker 1: she's very young. I think she invented these under thirty

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Speaker 1: and anyways, she has a new product that my kids love,

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Speaker 1: so I'll be talking about that soon as well.

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Speaker 2: Let's see, let's go to the phone lines.

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Speaker 1: Let's see here, we've got Francesca in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: Line one. Francesca, you're on with Rich.

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Speaker 5: Hello. I love to listen to you. You're very knowledgable

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Speaker 5: and charming and all that, and I am in big trouble.

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Speaker 5: Of course, I finally decided to overcome my anxiety by

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Speaker 5: the cell phone. I had a bad case of cancer

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Speaker 5: and I was told that if I don't need the

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Speaker 5: cell phone now, I should not have it because of

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Speaker 5: the radiation. So because of this, I was very paranoid.

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Speaker 5: Now this is many years later, I decided stop that

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Speaker 5: and get the cell phone. Now I don't really even

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Speaker 5: know how to make a phone call, so if you

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Speaker 5: could help me with that, I'm not sure you know

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Speaker 5: when I'm changing the pages, whether I'm using I should

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Speaker 5: be using one finger to swipe or three fingers. I

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Speaker 5: can't read the instructions because it's too tiny, and even

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Speaker 5: with my glasses, I can't read it. So I'm going

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Speaker 5: to have to get new glasses.

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Speaker 1: Well, thanks for the kind words. Sorry that you had

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Speaker 1: to go through what you went through with the cancer.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're doing or with that. The phone? What

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Speaker 1: kind of phone did you get?

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Speaker 5: The track phone?

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's a track phone.

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Speaker 1: Is it a smartphone or is it just a flip

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Speaker 1: standard phone?

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Speaker 5: I think it's a smartphone.

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Speaker 2: It is a smartphone, okay, So it has like Android

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Speaker 2: on it?

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Speaker 5: Maybe I don't see that shine anywhere.

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Speaker 2: On the does it is it a is it a Samsung?

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Speaker 2: Is it an Apple? Is it an iPhone?

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Speaker 5: I don't really know. It was given to me. It's

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Speaker 5: a t.

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Speaker 2: TC okay, TCL, Yes, got it. Okay, that's an that's

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Speaker 2: an Android phone. Yep, TCL.

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Speaker 1: So TCL is the company that's they're pretty famous for

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Speaker 1: TVs now on this phone because TCL makes two different

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Speaker 1: types of phones. They make a flip phone. So does

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Speaker 1: it have a physical keyboard or is it all screen?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 2: Does it have buttons you can physically press?

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Speaker 5: I have to press but yeah the symbols?

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, but it's all on the screen.

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Speaker 5: I got it.

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Speaker 1: So it's not like it's not like an right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: got it? So it is a smartphone. Okay, So it

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Speaker 1: sounds like you have you know, one of their TCL smartphones,

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Speaker 1: which are good little phones. But again you have to

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Speaker 1: learn how to use this. So if you want to

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Speaker 1: learn how to use an Android phone, the main things

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Speaker 1: that you need to do are make a phone call

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Speaker 1: and you're calling me, so maybe you figure that part out,

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Speaker 1: but it really comes down to downloading apps and just

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Speaker 1: getting this phone to do things that you need to do.

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Speaker 1: So what I would do is just set up the

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Speaker 1: home screen with the things that you want to do,

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Speaker 1: and if that is Facebook, maybe you put that app

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Speaker 1: on there.

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Speaker 2: If it's your phone, you put that app on there.

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Speaker 1: Texting you're probably gonna want to text folks as well,

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Speaker 1: so you want your texting app on there. And you

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Speaker 1: can do other stuff too, like of course take pictures,

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Speaker 1: you can surf the web. But I think if you

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Speaker 1: just want to get the basics down, the way to

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Speaker 1: learn this phone is just to use it. There is

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Speaker 1: typically in smartphones and app called tips, so you might

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Speaker 1: search for that, and the way that you search on

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Speaker 1: your phone is you swipe up and then you search

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Speaker 1: inside there, or you can just search on the bar

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Speaker 1: that says Google right on your phone screen. So it

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Speaker 1: is a little bit intimidating. I understand because you are

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Speaker 1: just getting to learn this phone. I would also think

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Speaker 1: that TCL probably has a book about this phone online,

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Speaker 1: so if you have access to a computer and you

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Speaker 1: want to read kind of like a simple book on

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Speaker 1: how to use this But I think the main thing,

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Speaker 1: Francesca that you need to know is that you want

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Speaker 1: to be able to make calls on this phone, and

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Speaker 1: you want to customize it for the things that you

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Speaker 1: want to do. And I would say, personally, if you

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Speaker 1: have a family member or a friend or a neighbor

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Speaker 1: that has an Android phone, just ask them, just say, hey,

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Speaker 1: how do you make phone calls? I would say one

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Speaker 1: thing you probably want to make sure you're doing is

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Speaker 1: connecting it to Wi Fi in your home if you

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Speaker 1: do have Wi Fi in your house, because otherwise I'm

752
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Speaker 1: not sure how much data you have with your plan

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Speaker 1: with trackphone, but it's typically not that much with them,

754
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Speaker 1: and so you probably don't want to gobble up all

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Speaker 1: that data when you're at home if you're in a

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Speaker 1: Wi Fi area, So try to connect to Wi Fi

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Speaker 1: as much as possible.

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Speaker 2: But you know, these.

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Speaker 1: Things are mainly just a matter of trial and error.

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Speaker 1: You're not going to break anything. I would also I

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Speaker 1: would try to learn how to turn the phone off

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Speaker 1: and on and also restart it, and that's typically going

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Speaker 1: to be either holding down the power button on the

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Speaker 1: side or swiping down from the top and pressing the

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Speaker 1: settings which looks like a little gear. The other thing, Francesca,

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Speaker 1: I think is really fun is just searching Google. So

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Speaker 1: there's a microphone icon on your home screen. Just tap

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Speaker 1: that and ask Google whatever you want answers to and

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Speaker 1: you can have a lot of fun there too, So

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Speaker 1: have fun with the phone. I'm glad you are coming

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Speaker 1: around and getting into the twenty first century here, So

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Speaker 1: thanks for the call today, appreciate it and enjoy You

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Speaker 1: are listening to rich on Tech. Phone lines are open

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Speaker 1: Coming up, I'm gonna tell you about the one plus

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Speaker 1: some of Samsung's new products, including the Galaxy Buds f

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Speaker 1: These are affordable gadgets from Samsung, and I've got thoughts

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Speaker 1: because I used them.

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Speaker 2: You are listening to rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: What's going on rich de Barrow here, rich on Tech

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Speaker 1: talking technology with you at Triple eight Rich one oh one.

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Speaker 2: That's eight eight eight seven four to two four one

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Speaker 1: Doing the show today from Paso robles, a U an

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Speaker 1: area in I guess it's central California that is known

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Speaker 1: for their wine and their restaurants and just kind of

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Speaker 1: a weekend, for sure, if you haven't been. Gloria wrote

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Speaker 1: in on the website richon Tech dot TV. We were

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Speaker 1: talking about how people mispronounce names of places, and Glory says,

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Speaker 1: there's a street in your Belinda baston Cherry, but everyone

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Speaker 1: pronounces it as baston Cherry. And when I try to

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Speaker 1: explain the why, they just ignore me. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: people are setting their ways sometimes. Coming up on this hour,

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Speaker 1: we are going to talk about the one plus Open.

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Speaker 1: This is a new foldable phone. I'll tell you about

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Speaker 1: some details on that in just a moment. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about.

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Speaker 2: The Galaxy Buds FE and the Galaxy tab S nine

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Speaker 2: f E. These are two new.

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Speaker 1: Less expensive products from Samsung that deliver a lot of

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Speaker 1: the things that people like, and we're gonna take more

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Speaker 1: of your calls.

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Speaker 2: So let's get to.

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Speaker 1: The calls right now, let's go to Mickey and so

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Speaker 1: here's a city that people mispronounce cam Rio. Right, So

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Speaker 1: Mickey and Camerio line too.

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Speaker 2: You're on with rech. How do you say Camrio?

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Speaker 6: Hi?

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Speaker 7: Yes, good morning cam Mario.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it right. See, oh there you go. See.

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Speaker 1: I think when I first moved to California, I might

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Speaker 1: have said like Camarillo.

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Speaker 7: Yes, many do.

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Speaker 2: So what can I help you with?

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Speaker 7: Okay, I'm pulling over. I've had conflicting let me make

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Speaker 7: sure you can hear me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear you.

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Speaker 7: Be careful please, okay, yeah, no, I'll pull over. So

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Speaker 7: I had conflicting information from my uh the anti virus company. Well,

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Speaker 7: I was told to leave this VPN at home and

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Speaker 7: on my mobile my cell phone okay, and the cell

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Speaker 7: phone house also another antivirus. But anyway, so I even

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Speaker 7: talked to a manager. This manager told me. I told

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Speaker 7: the manager, I was told by one of your representatives

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Speaker 7: in the tech department tech support that the VPN uh

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Speaker 7: A lady. She said, Oh, you're supposed to leave it

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Speaker 7: on at all times? Who told you turned it off?

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Speaker 7: I said one of the text one of the tech

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Speaker 7: support people, because I've called back and forth several days times.

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Speaker 7: They said said, no, leave it off when you're on

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Speaker 7: your computer at home, and uh off on your phone

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Speaker 7: off here at home, but once you leave home, turned

838
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Speaker 7: on your VPN. And then and yet someone else told it.

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Speaker 7: And the lady says, no, you're supposed to leave your

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Speaker 7: VPN at home on the computer. Should be on twenty

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Speaker 7: four to seven. She said, the one that told you

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Speaker 7: to leave it off, I am going to do. You

843
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 7: don't know the name, I said, know you, well, I'm

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Speaker 7: going to report that. I said, I don't know why

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Speaker 7: he would have told you that the supervisor. Then I

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Speaker 7: called the nex Baseball was the supervisor. Supervisor said VPN

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Speaker 7: should be on twenty four to seven phone and mobile devices.

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Speaker 7: So of course I'm taking the words of a supervisor

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Speaker 7: and he just he described, you know, some website the

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Speaker 7: VPN will work with it to turn it off and

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Speaker 7: turn it back on, et cetera. And anyway, So I'm

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Speaker 7: just really you know, I'm taking a heart what the

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Speaker 7: supervisor said, but I'm just really confused a little skill.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what company are you using for your VPN?

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Speaker 7: This is for McAfee. I had Basic and I went

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Speaker 7: to McAfee Advanced Assists, so few days ago.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of advertising around VPNs. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of talk around VPNs for privacy. We had on a

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Speaker 1: privacy or a VPN expert a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: David Huerta, and so I highly recommend that you go

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Speaker 1: back and re listen to that interview.

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Speaker 2: That is the last.

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Speaker 1: Show if you go to the podcast rich on Tech

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Speaker 1: podcast and if you look at the episode that is

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Speaker 1: titled Let's see it is, oh, VPN's Explained October seventh.

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Speaker 1: So I highly recommend that you listen to that episode

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Speaker 1: and he will explain exactly when you should use a VPN.

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Speaker 1: Because there's so much advertising, because there's so much push,

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Speaker 1: and because there's so much profit on VPNs, and of

870
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Speaker 1: course privacy is paramount to everyone, there is a lot

871
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Speaker 1: of misconceptions about when you need to use a VPN.

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Speaker 1: So here is my rule of thumb. If you're on

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Speaker 1: your home Wi Fi network, you do not need to

874
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: use your VPN. There is no reason for it unless

875
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: you are trying to mask what you're doing to your ISP,

876
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: your Internet service provider you want to change the location

877
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: of where you are and you want to look like

878
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: you are surfing the web from a different place, or

879
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: you're like really really top secret and just don't want

880
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 1: any sort of trackers tracking you as you move around

881
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: the Internet. So those are the reasons why you might

882
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 1: want to use a VPN at home. I don't recommend it.

883
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: I don't think you need it now. When you're out

884
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: and about, I would say, stay on your cellular network

885
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: for all of your stuff as much as possible, and

886
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: in that case, you do not need a VPN unless

887
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 1: the same things apply. If you don't want your ISP

888
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: to know what you're doing, if you don't want to

889
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: be tracked all that good stuff, you can use the

890
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: VPN even on your mobile network. Now, it's when you're

891
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: on Wi Fi that I think you might need a VPN,

892
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: but only during specific use cases. Only when you're doing

893
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: something very sensitive on that Wi Fi network, might you

894
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: want to consider using a VPN. So again, let's say

895
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: you are a public shared plate. Do you want to

896
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: check your bank account? Maybe that's when you might use

897
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: a VPN. But the trick is a lot of these

898
00:41:55,160 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: VPNs don't actually let you log in if you're sorry.

899
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: A lot of these banks and things won't let you

900
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: log in if you're on a VPN because VPNs can

901
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 1: also be tricked, and so they want to make sure

902
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: that you're on a direct connection through a cellular company

903
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: or through.

904
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Speaker 2: A Wi Fi.

905
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Speaker 1: So I think the bottom line is there for the

906
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: average person, there are not many many times when you

907
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: need to use a VPN, but there are specific use

908
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: cases where I will fire up the VPN to protect

909
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: my web browsing, or to protect what I'm doing, or

910
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: if I'm on a sketchy Wi Fi network that I'm

911
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: not really sure, I will probably use a VPN to

912
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: just protect those things. But most of the time I

913
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: will stay on cellular, which is very, very secure, and

914
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: there's not really a need for a VPN during those times.

915
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: But Mickey, I understand there are so many questions about

916
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: this stuff. I think the last episode on October seventh,

917
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: VPNs explained with our guests. We'll explain a lot, but

918
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: I kind of summarized what he had to say just now.

919
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 2: So thank you for the call. Appreciate it. Use a VPN.

920
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: I don't think you need to pay a ton for it.

921
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: I don't think it needs to be activated all the time.

922
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: I think that again, just the times that I mentioned

923
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: are the critical times when you might want to do that.

924
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 2: All right.

925
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: So I was using the Galaxy Buds FE and the

926
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: Galaxy tab S nine FE on my flight back to

927
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: New Jersey last week. So the Galaxy Buds FE are

928
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: earbuds that are ninety nine dollars. These are brand new

929
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: from Samsung. They've got active noise cancelation. They've got ambient

930
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: sound modes. They've got really long battery life up to

931
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: eight and a half hours of playback time thirty hours

932
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: with the case. They've got decent water resistance. They're only

933
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 1: IPX two, which means they are splash resistant. They fit

934
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: in my ears great, they sound really good. They have

935
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: a three mic system, so it's got good, clean, clear calls.

936
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: I will tell you though, I did not think these

937
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: were that loud in my ears, especially on the plane.

938
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 2: I don't know what the deal was.

939
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: I'm not sure why, but they were tough to hear,

940
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure if that was just limited to me.

941
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: But I will say I switched to between these and

942
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: several other earbuds, and the other earbuds did sound better.

943
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: So I think these sound fine when you're not in

944
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: a place like a plane, but and maybe they need

945
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: a software update to sound better. But overall, I will

946
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,439
Speaker 1: say I do like them. I took them on a run.

947
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: I thought they sounded good during the run. But it's

948
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: one of these things where you know it's they're good.

949
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: Maybe wait for the price to go down to they

950
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: they retail at ninety nine ninety nine. I think that

951
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: they're going to be cheaper during the holidays. So that's

952
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 1: the Galaxy Buds f E. I think overall they're fine.

953
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: They're not. They they sounded okay on the plane. They

954
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: weren't the best noise cancelation headphones I've ever used on

955
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 1: a plane, but a lot of the ones I use

956
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: are maybe double the price of these anyway, So if

957
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: you want something that's simple, basic, I think they're going

958
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: to be a good bye.

959
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: Especially if you have a Samsung phone.

960
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 1: Now, when it comes to this Galaxy tab S nine

961
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: f E, this is a large tablet and I will

962
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: say I actually really like it, and I typically recommend

963
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: the iPads, and that's for a reason.

964
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 2: You get a lot for your money.

965
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: This starts at four hundred and fifty bucks that's a

966
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: lot of money. It's got a large screen, either a

967
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: ten point nine in screen or a twelve point four

968
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: in screen. It's got a great refresh rate. It's got

969
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 1: an s pen included, so it's got a stylus included,

970
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: which is kind of nice. It's got up to two

971
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty six gigabytes of storage. It's got a

972
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 1: micro SD card. You can get one with a SIM card,

973
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: so if you want to use cellular on this. The

974
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: other neat thing about this tablet is that it is

975
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: IP sixty eight, which means it's water and dust resistant,

976
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: which means you can take this thing like in a

977
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: pool and get it wet and it's fine. I wouldn't

978
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: put it underwater for a long time, but if you

979
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: want to read in the pool, watch a movie in

980
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: the pool, you can. I don't know why you'd want

981
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: to do that, but you could if you want it to.

982
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: It's got up to twenty hours of video playback. I

983
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: had no problems with the battery situation. It charged really

984
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: nice and fast.

985
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 2: Again.

986
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: It has five G connectivity available and this starts at

987
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: four hundred and fifty dollars. The biggest downside to this

988
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: tablet and I watched a couple movies on it.

989
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 2: I used it on the plane.

990
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: Is that it's just heavy, and I thought it was heavy,

991
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: and then I confirm my suspicions by weighing it against

992
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: the iPad, and yeah, it's definitely heavier than the iPad.

993
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 1: So my only issue with this tablet is that it's heavy.

994
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: But otherwise and the price, I think again you should

995
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: wait for the price to come down on this because

996
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 1: although they're releasing it at four forty nine, I think

997
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: it's going to be cheaper during the holidays. This is

998
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: the kind of stuff The fe product line is made

999
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: for discounts. Samsung puts these products out there. They have

1000
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: a lot of great features at a great price point,

1001
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: but the price point gets even better during the holidays

1002
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: when they say, you know what, we're gonna make a

1003
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: lot of people buy this stuff, so we're gonna make

1004
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: these prices too good to refuse. And so I suspect

1005
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: the buds will be anywhere from seventy fifty nine to

1006
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: seventy nine bucks, and this tablet, they'll probably take a

1007
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 1: hundred bucks off this price to the tablet during the holidays.

1008
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: So if you're looking for a tablet that is Android

1009
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: that is not iPad. I still think the iPad offers

1010
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: a better selection of apps and a better experience overall,

1011
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: but I do like this, and I do like how

1012
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: Android tablets actually download stuff in the background, which the

1013
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 1: iPad really does not unless it's an Apple app. So again,

1014
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: Galaxy Fie Galaxy Tabs nine feu, put them on your

1015
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: list for the holidays. Definitely gonna make some good gifts,

1016
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: and I think the prices are gonna be right. Rich

1017
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Speaker 1: on Tech is my website, rich on tech dot TV.

1018
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1019
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1020
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: this show. So if you want to listen to all

1021
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,880
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1022
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Speaker 1: Two four one zero one back with the one plus

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Speaker 1: eighty eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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Speaker 1: Wife just texted said she's going on a hike up

1030
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: here in the mountains, and I reminded her that because

1031
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: she's got a newer iPhone, you need to know about

1032
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: this feature called Emergency SOS. So, if you have an

1033
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: iPhone fourteen or fifteen, you have a satellite on your iPhone,

1034
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,439
Speaker 1: which means if you ever needed help and you didn't

1035
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: have a cell phone signal, you could still get help

1036
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: just by having a clear view of the sky. So,

1037
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: if you have an iPhone fourteen, iPhone fourteen Pro, iPhone fifteen,

1038
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: iPhone fifteen Pro, familiarize yourself with Emergency SOS via satellite.

1039
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: This will let you text emergency services even when you

1040
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: don't have a cellular signal or a Wi Fi signal,

1041
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: and you can still get help. It's a very very

1042
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: amazing feature that Apple has built into the latest iPhones.

1043
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: You can familiarize yourself with it by going into Settings

1044
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: and scrolling until you see Emergency SOS and then scrolling

1045
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: all the way down and you can try a demo

1046
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: of the satellite feature. It's not going to make you

1047
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: call it the police or the fire or anything like that,

1048
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: but it can help you understand how this feature works

1049
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: because it is new and so not a lot of

1050
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: people understand it, and it's just basically works that if

1051
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: you don't have a signal and you try to dial

1052
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: nine one one, it will redirect to the basically the

1053
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: staffed response centers that can help you with your emergency.

1054
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: And it's not a phone call, it's a back and

1055
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: forth text. And by the way, it does take some

1056
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: time because it's going over satellite, so it's not instantaneous.

1057
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: I mean it is eventually, but it could take a

1058
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: minute to connect or something. It is going to a

1059
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: satellite that's thousands of miles above you.

1060
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 2: But it is a really cool feature.

1061
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: Again, if you have iPhone fourteen or fifteen, you need

1062
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: to familiarize yourself with emergency sos and set up those

1063
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: emergency contacts as well, because hopefully you'll never need them,

1064
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 1: but it's better to be prepared. If you're on Android

1065
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: and you want something similar, they have an add on

1066
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: called the Motorola Defy and this is the Motorola Defy

1067
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: Satellite Link, and it's basically a little accessory for Android

1068
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: phones that puts a satellite enabled messenger on your phone.

1069
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: So your phone connects this little link and then the

1070
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: link sends the messages up to the satellite. So if

1071
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: you need help or you can just text someone no

1072
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 1: matter where you are, if you hike a lot, you're

1073
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,720
Speaker 1: on an oil rig in the middle of nowhere, whatever

1074
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: it may be in your life that you know, you

1075
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: want to stay connected without a cell phone signal. These

1076
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: little systems will work, and hopefully we'll see the first

1077
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: Android phones with this satellite technology built in very soon.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to line three, Jerry and Northridge.

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Speaker 2: You're on with Rich.

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Speaker 8: Jerry, Hey, Rich, great show. I had a quick question

1081
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 8: about the how good the security is for the latest

1082
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 8: vision of Ventura. You got an older iMac is at

1083
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 8: twenty eighteen, so it cannot upgrade to Sonoma. Is that

1084
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 8: a big security risk?

1085
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 2: And the only thing you can run on it is

1086
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 2: what the highest.

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Speaker 8: Thing could run on is the latest version of Ventura.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you've got to look online and see if

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Speaker 1: Ventura is still getting security updates. So typically Apple will

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Speaker 1: give out security updates for you know, a little while,

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Speaker 1: even after they stop supporting the operating system, so it'll

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Speaker 1: it'll continue to be supported for a while. So if

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00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 1: I'm looking at Ventura right now, Ventura the last time

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Speaker 1: it got a security update was September seventh, twenty twenty three,

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00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: so that is very recent. That means that Apple is

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Speaker 1: still supporting this. Typically they support these for a while,

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Speaker 1: and so I think you're fine. As long as you

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Speaker 1: can update that computer to the latest security patch, that

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Speaker 1: should be fine. Obviously, with the newer computers, you want

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Speaker 1: to put them on the latest software. But no matter

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00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: what software you're running, the system number one, the security

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Speaker 1: updates have been getting longer and longer for almost every

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00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: operating system. So Google just announced that they're doing seven

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Speaker 1: years of security updates for the latest Pixel phone, so

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00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: Pixel eight it is twenty twenty three. You'll be able

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Speaker 1: to get security updates for that phone until twenty thirty.

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00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: And Apple has typically supported their devices for at least

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Speaker 1: five years I'd say maybe five maybe six years with

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00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: the latest iOS updates. But they've also separated the operating

1110
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 1: system update from the security updates. So even though they're

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00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: not doing let's say a big operating system update for

1112
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: your device, like you said, on your computer, it can

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Speaker 1: still get security updates. So as long as it's still

1114
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Speaker 1: getting those security updates, you should be fine. I would

1115
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Speaker 1: just check for the end of life date for the

1116
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: various operating systems and see what it says about that.

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00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,919
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what it is for Ventura, but it's

1118
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: easily findable online. But again, just came out with the

1119
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,720
Speaker 1: security update on September seventh, So I think you are okay,

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00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: Jerry for letting that run as long as possible. But

1121
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: the main thing is you just don't want to click

1122
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 1: any links that might be phishing and all that stuff,

1123
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: because that's really how they're getting you these days. All right,

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00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: coming up, we've got a guest that is going to

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00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: talk about the one Plus Open. This is one Plus's

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00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: first foldable smartphone. Before we get to the guest, let

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00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: me just tell you about this phone. I've been using it,

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00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: and yeah, the reviewers really like it, including myself. This

1129
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: is called the one Plus Open. It launches on October

1130
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: twenty sixth. It's got a big outside screen six point

1131
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: three inches, which means it's like a regular smartphone on

1132
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,720
Speaker 1: the outside. Then when you open up on the inside,

1133
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: it's seven point eight two inches, So it is big

1134
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: on the inside, big on the outside, and that's kind

1135
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: of the main thing. But it's also very lightweight. It's

1136
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: got a good camera setup. I think the camera is

1137
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: hit or miss in my testing. You can look at

1138
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: my Instagram at rich On Tech. I took some pictures

1139
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 1: against the iPhone. It's got all the best specs, sixteen

1140
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: gigabytes of RAM, five hundred and twelve gigabytes of storage,

1141
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: a giant battery, no wireless charging, which is a bummer,

1142
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: but the charging that is wired is really fast. The

1143
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 1: price seventeen hundred dollars, but if you trade in any phone,

1144
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna give you this for fifteen hundred bucks. So

1145
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: any phone, I'm talking like literally any phone, they'll give

1146
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: you two hundred dollars off, effectively bringing the price down

1147
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: to fifteen hundred dollars. So how does this compare with

1148
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 1: the Pixel Fold and the Samsung Fold five. I think

1149
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: the Pixel Fold still to me, is better because of

1150
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: the camera. But I think that this is a very

1151
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: strong contender for a foldable phone because it has such

1152
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 1: great specs, It has such a great kind of stance

1153
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: and the screens. The only thing I wish it had

1154
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: a little bit better was the camera. But otherwise, the

1155
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: price is pretty strong, the design is pretty strong, and

1156
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: we're going to hear more about this from Marcell Campos

1157
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: with one plus coming up right after this. Rich Demiro here,

1158
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: rich on Tech, Welcome back to the show. I am

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00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: on location in New York City at the one plus

1160
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,280
Speaker 1: event for the launch of their latest foldable phone. Joining

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Speaker 1: me now is Marcel Campos with one Plus. Thanks for

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00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: joining me.

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00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 3: It's my pleasure.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about one plus as a company. First off,

1165
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 1: explain what one plus is all about.

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00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 9: One plus is a tech company. We start focus on

1167
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 9: smartphones mainly, and we are expanding to other devices like keyboard,

1168
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 9: zero phones. Many other things are coming and we are

1169
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 9: trying to establish our presence in US in a more

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00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 9: broader way.

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00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: One thing I've always appreciated about the one plus phones

1172
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: is the software. It's smart, it's speedy, it's smooth, and

1173
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:04,720
Speaker 1: that has really set the phones apart.

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00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 2: Do you really focus on.

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Speaker 9: That fastens move that's our mantra. Yes, that's pretty much

1176
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 9: the essence of our product, the smartphones. That's how we

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00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 9: got popular with but also with a lot of feedback

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00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 9: from the community. We are very focused on community, and

1179
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 9: the community kind of drive us in the right direction.

1180
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 9: Sometimes we have some decisions we go in one direction,

1181
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 9: community come back and say we don't like that.

1182
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 3: We prefer if you're doing a different way.

1183
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 9: We listen today and try to incorporate their needs, their

1184
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 9: feelings about the products for the next generation products. That's

1185
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 9: pretty much how we work. That's our way of working.

1186
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 9: Listen to the community because they know better than anyone else.

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00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: The first time I ever saw one plus phone, I

1188
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: was actually in San Francisco. I landed at the airport.

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00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: I got a newber and the driver had a phone.

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00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: And I cover phones for a living and I've seen

1191
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: most of them, but I'd never seen this phone.

1192
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 2: And I said, excuse me, what phone is that?

1193
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: And he said, oh, it's a one plus. I said, wow,

1194
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: it was such a good looking phone. That was the

1195
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: original device.

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00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, the one right, the first one, the original one

1197
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 9: that was crazy right, you could only buy by invitation.

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00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 9: The back of the phone has a very distinctive feeling

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00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 9: and texture. I think it was a very good debut.

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00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 9: It went to the market in a very aggressive way.

1201
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 9: I think the receptions was definitely way better than we

1202
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 9: could expect. But from that moment on, you know, we

1203
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 9: are in our ear. This will be the ten year

1204
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 9: of one plus worldwide since we launched the brand, and

1205
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 9: a lot of things change and change for good. Those

1206
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 9: changes also make the products not only more interesting and

1207
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 9: more tachy, But we cannot forget or man mission to

1208
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 9: never settle. So we have to always go and look

1209
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 9: forward for what is new, but also what is important.

1210
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 9: Sometimes what is new is not necessarily important or something

1211
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 9: that is really going to change our mind. So finding

1212
00:56:55,520 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 9: the right compromises to have the best price possible with

1213
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 9: the best device possible, getting away from the fluff, keeping

1214
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 9: only what people really need and use. I think that's

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00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 9: still the main focus of the company.

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00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're up against big players like Samsung and Apple

1217
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: and of course Google Pixel and so those are some

1218
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: of the biggest phones here in the US. But you

1219
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,479
Speaker 1: continue to put out a product that is a little

1220
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: bit different, and I think that's what people appreciate about it.

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00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the one plus Open, because this is

1222
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: the foldable phone. In the US, we have only a

1223
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: handful of foldables. Other markets there are many more. Are

1224
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: first off, just kind of give me what the OnePlus

1225
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: Open is all about.

1226
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,439
Speaker 9: It's a votable phone, not a flip phone. Right, there's

1227
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 9: a difference between flip phones and photable phones. Flip phones

1228
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 9: are those who you can fold in the middle and

1229
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 9: that become smaller. Votable phones in the market is the

1230
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 9: ones you have the right size of the phone. We

1231
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 9: call it candy bars, just like the format because like

1232
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 9: a retangle and then you can open and enlarge the screen.

1233
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 9: So those are the true differences Flip and photobos. This

1234
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 9: is a photoble phone. The main thing about that is

1235
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 9: it is not only another photable phone in the market.

1236
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 9: There's only two competitors with that right now and they

1237
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 9: are doing great. But we believe we have something unique,

1238
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 9: something that people enjoy. One of the things that we

1239
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 9: focus very much on this product is to provide the

1240
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 9: front screen and the right sizing because people spend more

1241
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 9: than seventy eighty percent of the time in the front

1242
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 9: screen and when they want to share something or then

1243
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 9: when they want to have some content consuming content in

1244
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 9: a bigger.

1245
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 3: Screen, they can open and have it.

1246
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 9: Or even in productivity you can have different apps together.

1247
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 9: But when you don't need it, you're going to use

1248
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 9: like a normal phone and have a narrow screen or

1249
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 9: have a blocky screen. It's not the right racial size

1250
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 9: for the people. Most of the people, they want to

1251
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 9: use the phone as a normal phone. So to make

1252
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 9: it thin, light and at the same time the right

1253
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 9: size of the screen, the front screen.

1254
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 3: That's the key for this product.

1255
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you're not going to come out and say,

1256
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: but I can. You've got the super narrow screen on

1257
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: the Samsung Fold the Ball, and then you've got kind

1258
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: of a more squat screen on the Google Pixel Fold.

1259
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 2: They both take different approaches.

1260
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: Those phones are very nice, but this is more like

1261
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: a traditional smartphone that also opens up into a nice

1262
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: big screen.

1263
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 2: Inside.

1264
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 9: It just feels right when you have in your hand.

1265
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 9: It just feels right. And there's an additional thing that

1266
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 9: I'd like to mention is about the cameras, because usually

1267
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 9: in foldobles you are fighting against the internal room, how

1268
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 9: much space you have inside the phone, how many things

1269
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 9: you put inside. Because you have the hinge, which takes

1270
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 9: a big part of it. It has to be durable,

1271
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 9: has to be sturdy, has to you know, be something

1272
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 9: nice to open and close hold on.

1273
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: While you're talking about that hinge up on stage, you

1274
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: mentioned that you have tested it for a million folds,

1275
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: when many of the other phones are several hundred thousand,

1276
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: maybe three hundred, four hundred thousand.

1277
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 2: So this is going to be pretty durable.

1278
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, supposed to last at least ten years, just the hinge,

1279
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 9: So you can imagine The idea is to show something

1280
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 9: that if you invest your money, it can last. We

1281
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 9: consider that no matter how much dollars you're putting our product,

1282
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 9: no matter which product, it should be a product that

1283
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 9: may last, should be future proof. And that's one of

1284
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 9: a good of examples of how we do that.

1285
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 2: Okay, so back to that camera.

1286
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: You've got three lenses on this camera, so you do

1287
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 1: have the ultra wide, you got the standard and a telephoto.

1288
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: What is the quality going to be like on those cameras.

1289
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 9: It's going to be top notch quality. We have three cameras.

1290
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 9: They are amazing. They are We have a partnership with

1291
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 9: Hasselblaff to fine tune those cameras and have the best

1292
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 9: caller science behind it to have the best callers, the

1293
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 9: best picture.

1294
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: So the outside screen is six point three inches, the

1295
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: inside screen is seven point eight inches. You're really getting

1296
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,479
Speaker 1: a two in one here. You're getting a standard almost

1297
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: a standard smartphone, plus that that tablet screen on the inside.

1298
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 2: What is the thought behind a fold of ball? Who

1299
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 2: needs a fold of ball?

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01:00:58,920 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 6: Not?

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01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 3: Everyone? Definitely not.

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Speaker 9: I think this is still a kind of a niche product,

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01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 9: still enlarging and growing. We see a lot of people

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01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 9: migrating for this format and trying and testing. But the

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Speaker 9: most important thing to have in mind is once you

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Speaker 9: start the using, you find your own users. For that

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Speaker 9: for me was the case in the airport. I have

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Speaker 9: a delay in a flight, I don't have my computer

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Speaker 9: with me, and I want to start working and doing

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Speaker 9: meetings that suppose that I should not. And when I

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Speaker 9: open the screens, then when I start feeling ops, Now

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Speaker 9: I see the difference.

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Speaker 3: Now I see why this is good.

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Speaker 9: And then I went to the airplane and I put

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Speaker 9: like Netflix videos that I download and start watching them

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Speaker 9: on the airplane.

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Speaker 3: And seeing in a.

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Speaker 9: Bigger screen changes the experience with the product. So you

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Speaker 9: need to use it to figure out how it serves you.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you that is one of my favorite aspects

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Speaker 1: of foldobles.

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Speaker 2: And it's tough because people are not.

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Speaker 1: Wowed very easily these days because we have so much

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Speaker 1: stuff like chat, GBT and AI and various gadgets and

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Speaker 1: everyone has a smartphone. The best thing I have realized

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01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: is that you just take a picture and open up

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Speaker 1: the phone and let them see it on that big

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Speaker 1: screen and they're like wow, because you've never seen your

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Speaker 1: smartphone pictures like that. People don't even look at them

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Speaker 1: on their computer screens. It's only on social media, it's

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Speaker 1: only on a tiny screen.

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Speaker 9: It's an excellent device for sharing all the content you have,

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Speaker 9: not only videos you made, pictures you took, but also

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Speaker 9: the contents like I mentioned Netflix, Disney Plus, no.

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Speaker 3: Matter which one. If you are a guy that is

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Speaker 3: always on the goal.

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Speaker 9: If you are kind of these digital nomads, you need

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01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 9: to work in different places during the week, and you

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01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 9: are always moving from one place to another, but you

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Speaker 9: know the working keep going. This is the perfect companion.

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Speaker 1: Again, we're talking about the one plus Open. This is

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Speaker 1: the company's first voltable phone. It will launch with five

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01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 1: hundred and twelve gigabytes of storage, twelve or sixteen gigs

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Speaker 1: of memory, sixteen hundred ninety nine dollars fourteen hundred ninety

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Speaker 1: nine dollars if you trade in pretty much any smartphone.

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Speaker 9: Now we don't get it, it's any phone. You go

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Speaker 9: to one plus dot com. You can any phone any condition.

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Speaker 9: If you have those old lendline phones will accept if

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01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 9: it's broken, the screen is broken, if it's not working,

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Speaker 9: if it's the old Nokia you have the unbreakable one.

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Speaker 3: You can trade that and.

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Speaker 9: You're gonna have at least minimum two hundred dollars on

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Speaker 9: OnePlus dot com. We are doing that for the life

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Speaker 9: cycle of the product, so it's not something only for

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Speaker 9: the launch, it's something for the whole life cycle of

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Speaker 9: the product.

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Speaker 1: Effectively, that takes the price down to about fifteen hundred dollars.

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Speaker 1: Marcel Campos of one plus, thanks so much for joining

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Speaker 1: me today.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you very much. Was a pleasure to be

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Speaker 3: here with you.

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Speaker 1: All right, And of course, if you want to see

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Speaker 1: some of the pictures that I've been taking on the

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Speaker 1: one plus open, go to my website.

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Speaker 2: It is rich on Tech dot TV.

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Speaker 1: More show coming up right after this, Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: rich on Tech. Earlier, we had a question about running

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Speaker 1: an older software operating system on a computer and I

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Speaker 1: found a good website, end of life dot Date, and

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01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 1: this has the end of life dates for every platform

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Speaker 1: you could ever imagine, the iPhone, the iPad iOS, iPad os,

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Speaker 1: mac Os, Windows. I mean, this is pretty thorough. So

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Speaker 1: someone clearly does their homework with this website end of

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Speaker 1: life dot date, and so if you look at Apple macOS,

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Speaker 1: it says all the different releases you got. Sonoma Ventura, Monterey,

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01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 1: Big Sur, and Catalina, and it tells you the service status,

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Speaker 1: if it's still being serviced, and when it got its

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Speaker 1: latest software update. So if you look at this, macOS eleven, twelve, thirteen,

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Speaker 1: and fourteen are still all getting software updates and Big

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Speaker 1: Sur was so released two years and eleven months ago.

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Speaker 1: Service status yes, latest update was September eleventh and September

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Speaker 1: twenty first for the Monterey Ventura Sonoma. So anyway, great

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Speaker 1: website to see if the software where you want to

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01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 1: run is still being supported with active security updates. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to line one FERUSA in Los Angeles. Did I

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Speaker 1: say that right?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 10: You did?

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Speaker 2: Oh great?

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Speaker 11: How much for taking my call?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? What can I help you with today?

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Speaker 6: I have an iPhone six and this holiday season I'm

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Speaker 6: going to upgrade to an iPhone thirteen or fourteen, and

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Speaker 6: I'm particularly interested in the double Eastern feature because I

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Speaker 6: do travel internationally a fair bit and I just wanted

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Speaker 6: to understand is it the same on both the thirteen

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Speaker 6: and fourteen and how.

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Speaker 10: Does it work?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is the same feature.

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Speaker 1: They've been I think they've had this on the iPhone

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01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,439
Speaker 1: since the iPhone ten. They did it secretly for many

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01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 1: years just to test it out, make sure it worked,

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01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: and then they decided to say no more simcard with

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01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 1: the last year's phone, So now there's no there's no

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01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 1: physical SIM card slot inside the iPhone anymore. But the

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01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 1: way the eSIM works, especially for travel, is that you

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01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 1: would have your regular SIM, which is still an e SIM,

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01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: but you can have multiple SIMS on your phone.

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Speaker 2: You can have a bunch of them.

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Speaker 1: I had I think like two or three on my

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Speaker 1: phone at one time, and you can activate them, you

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01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: can deactivate them. You can keep one on there for

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01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 1: a long time and just activate it when you go

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Speaker 1: to a different country. But the way you install it

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Speaker 1: is you just you know, let's say you have one

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Speaker 1: of your main carriers here, that's you know, Verizon, T Mobile,

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Speaker 1: any you know, Mint Mobile, whatever it is. You've got

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Speaker 1: your main SIM, and then you can add a secondary SIM.

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Speaker 1: And that secondary SIM could be an international SIM, it

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Speaker 1: could be even a secondary cellular line here in America.

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Speaker 1: So let's say you wanted one SIM for your phone

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01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 1: calls and one for your data, or even.

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Speaker 2: Two for your data.

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Speaker 1: You can set that up so it's really unlimited what

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01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: you can do. But the way it works over In particular,

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Speaker 1: what I do is I typically turn off my main

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Speaker 1: SIM and then flip on the international SIM and then

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Speaker 1: that way I can still use my data through the

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Speaker 1: international SIM and not pay the roaming charges. And there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of different ways to do this, but that's

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Speaker 1: kind of generally how it works. If you're traveling internationally

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Speaker 1: to a different country, you can pick up a local

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01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 1: eSIM there, or you can use one of these companies

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01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 1: that lets you activate an eSIM right from your phone.

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Speaker 2: So the one I always talk about is.

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Speaker 1: Aralow Us Mobile also has one, but there are many

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Speaker 1: many different companies that do this, and so if you

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Speaker 1: just look up eSIM for the country you want to

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Speaker 1: go to, you can do that and set it up

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Speaker 1: very easily here in the States before you leave. But

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Speaker 1: I think that it's a very simple system. The only

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Speaker 1: place where it gets a little complicated is if.

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Speaker 2: You want to continue.

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01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 1: Most of these eSIMs are data only, but that's also changing.

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01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 1: So the eSIM that you get for overseas might just

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01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 1: candle and not calls. But that makes sense because you

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01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: don't want to give someone a different phone number just

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01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: when you're overseas. They just want to call your regular

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01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 1: phone number. So in that case, I recommend that you

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01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 1: turn on your your not your roaming, but your Wi

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01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 1: Fi calling. And actually, you know what, we just did

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Speaker 1: a story on KTLA about this, a TV story because

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Speaker 1: I travel a decent amount and I was figuring out

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Speaker 1: all the different ways of staying connected. So if you

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01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 1: go to rich on tech dot TV, scroll down to

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01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 1: the October eighth story, it says cheapest ways to stay

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01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 1: connected abroad, and that will bring you to the different

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Speaker 1: methods you can use to stay connected overseas, and I

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Speaker 1: explain what eSIMs are. I explain the Wi Fi hotspot,

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01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:51,759
Speaker 1: I explain Wi Fi calling and roaming with your carrier,

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Speaker 1: So you can get all of that explained rich on

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Speaker 1: tech dot TV, and then just scroll down until you

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Speaker 1: see the story that says cheapest way to stay connected abroad.

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Speaker 2: Good question.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for the call today, Jony on Twitter

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Speaker 1: at rich on tech or x I should say, says,

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Speaker 1: is there any way to take low resolution.

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Speaker 2: Photos on the new iPhone?

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Speaker 1: Those three point eight megapixel photos eat up storage and

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Speaker 1: I don't always need the high res thanks rich on Tech. Well,

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Speaker 1: the photos aren't three point eight megapixels. I think the

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Speaker 1: storage space is three point eight. And yes, on the

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Speaker 1: new iPhone, the default megapixels is twenty four now, which

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Speaker 1: is amazing because you're getting so much more data on

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Speaker 1: your photos, which means you can zoom in, you can crop,

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01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 1: you just have a lot more flexibility with the amount

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Speaker 1: of data these photos carry because they are twenty four

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Speaker 1: megapixels by default. If you don't want them to be

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Speaker 1: twenty four megapixels, if you want to go back to twelve,

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Speaker 1: you can. You go to settings, you go to camera,

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Speaker 1: and you go to formats and then inside there it

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Speaker 1: says photo capture photo mode twenty four megapixels. You tap

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01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 1: there and you can tap twelve and you can take

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Speaker 1: your twelve megapixel.

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Speaker 2: Photos just like before.

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Speaker 1: According to Apple, a twelve megapixel photo will be about

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Speaker 1: two megabytes, a twenty four megapixel photo will be about

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Speaker 1: three megabytes. But like you said, Jony, it's probably closer

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Speaker 1: to about three point eight. Let me see on my

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Speaker 1: phone here what my latest picture is. So if I

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Speaker 1: just pick one of these photos here and let's see,

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Speaker 1: this photo is oh five point eight mega five point

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Speaker 1: eight megabytes. Wow, so Apple, Apple's really being conservative in

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Speaker 1: their estimates. But again with today's storage on the phones.

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Speaker 1: I would say take the bigger photos. But if you

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Speaker 1: don't need to need that, just go ahead and you

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Speaker 1: can change that in the settings. Tom says, Hey, Rich,

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Speaker 1: sounds like you're enjoying the scenery up in Passo. Great choice.

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Speaker 1: I need a new watch band for my Apple Watch.

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Speaker 1: Would you recommend Amazon or just go to the Apple Store.

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Speaker 1: I've come to believe Amazon could be kind of hit

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01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 1: or miss. Thank you, Tom, Tom, I you hit upon

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01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 1: a nerve with me. I I'm not a fan of

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01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 1: imitation Apple watch bands. Okay, there are so many random

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01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:07,679
Speaker 1: bands out there on Amazon.

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01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 2: I do not like any of them.

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01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 1: They are cheap, they are yucky, they look bad, and

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01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 1: yeah they're cheaper than what Apple sells. Apples bands are

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01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 1: fifty bucks. But I mean, don't you want something that

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01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 1: was made for the device that you're using. I see

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01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: so many people with cheap Apple watch bands and it

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01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,799
Speaker 1: just bugs me. So, yeah, you can get something on Amazon.

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01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 1: It's gonna be hit or miss. It may work, it

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01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 1: may pop out, the threads may not work. There may

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01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 1: be an you know, it may irritate your skin. You

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Speaker 1: don't know, and again you won't know until you get it.

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Speaker 1: Apple makes really beautiful bands. Yes, they are a little

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Speaker 1: bit more expensive for your watch, but I say stick

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Speaker 1: with the official bands. Go to the Apple store, pick

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Speaker 1: one out, see which one you like, and hopefully it

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Speaker 1: will fit for you. I am wearing the Nike Recycled

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01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 1: Apple band right now. It is made from recycled Apple bands.

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Speaker 1: I guess fell on the floor in the factory. I

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01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,639
Speaker 1: don't know, but it's like it's like almost all recycled.

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Speaker 1: I think it may be one hundred percent recycled. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure, but it looks really funky because it's got

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Speaker 1: like all these different band colors, kind of like it's

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01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:14,679
Speaker 1: as as if you took a whole bunch of Apple

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01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 1: bands just melted them down and then made a new

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Speaker 1: band from it.

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Speaker 2: That's what it looks like. So it's pretty cool. But

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Speaker 2: that's all.

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Speaker 1: Recycled, and that's kind of Apple's new push. The other

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Speaker 1: company I do like for Apple bands is Nomad. They

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Speaker 1: made two bands that I wore for a long time,

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Speaker 1: and one was glowing in the dark one was bright orange,

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01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 1: and so I do like those bands as well. Nomad

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01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:35,639
Speaker 1: is the company that makes them. I'm sure there's other

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01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 1: companies out there. That make nice Apple watch bands. But

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Speaker 1: I feel like Apple just makes such nice bands? Why

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01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 1: not just stick with the official Thanks for the text

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, or I should say X Tom, thanks a

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Speaker 1: lot for that.

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Speaker 2: All right, you can find me on social media.

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Speaker 1: I am at rich on Tech the website again rich

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Speaker 1: on Tech dot TV.

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Speaker 2: Coming up later in this.

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Speaker 1: Show, we're gonna talk to Michael Sino, a cyber security

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Speaker 1: expert at Google. You are listening to rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging

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Speaker 1: out with you talk in technology at Triple eight.

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Speaker 2: Rich one oh one.

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Speaker 1: That's eight eight eight seven four to two four one

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Speaker 1: zero one. Welcome to the show. Welcome back to the show.

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01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the show. Overall, just thank you.

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01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: This is one of my favorite parts of the week.

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01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 1: Why because I get to talk to you, I get

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01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 1: the feedback, and although you have completely decimated my inbox

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01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 1: with all of your messages, I do appreciate it because

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01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 1: that means you're listening. That means you're interacting. That means

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01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 1: you think I have something interesting to say and you

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01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 1: want to hear more.

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Speaker 2: So that all means a lot to me, So that

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01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 2: is not lost on me. Believe me. I can't write

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01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 2: back to everyone.

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Speaker 1: The more we do the show, the more it's getting

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01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 1: tougher to write back to all of the emails I'm getting.

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01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 1: But I do get them, I do read them, and

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01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 1: I do process them either for the show. If I

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01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 1: can answer them quickly, I will do that, or maybe

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01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 1: it might take me a little bit longer. But rest

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Speaker 1: assured your messages do see my eyeballs. That sounded really weird.

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01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 1: Hi kid had a birthday recently. We got him a

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01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,879
Speaker 1: drone and he he's been a kind of a drone

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01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,719
Speaker 1: wizard for a while, like really really good on these things,

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01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 1: and so we got them little drones over the years,

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01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 1: and then finally he wanted to upgrade to like a

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01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 1: big drone for this birthday. He's nine, by the way,

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01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 1: So we got him the Dji Mini three. It was

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01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 1: one of those things, you know, those like impulse buys

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01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 1: at Costco.

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Speaker 2: And I got to say, we took it out.

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Speaker 1: It took us a little bit to get it kind

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01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:38,560
Speaker 1: of set up and stuff, because I've been out of

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Speaker 1: town in things.

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Speaker 2: But you know, this last week we took it to

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Speaker 2: the park a couple times.

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Speaker 1: We had such a good time and It is so

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Speaker 1: fun to watch your kid excel at something, especially when

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01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 1: it's something that you're not good at, you know, whether

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01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 1: it's sports, whether it's you know, electronics, whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: But this was just so cool to watch him fly

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01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 1: this thing and with such confident and he's watched all

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01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 1: these YouTube videos about how to do this. I said,

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01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:05,640
Speaker 1: you know, look, before we go to the park to

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Speaker 1: do this, I want you to make sure all the

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01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 1: software is up to date. I want you to make

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Speaker 1: sure you know how to do it, make sure you've

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Speaker 1: watched a couple tutorials.

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Speaker 2: And he did.

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Speaker 1: He said, Dad, you know, I want to sit down

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01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 1: and control this thing, because that's what a guy said

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01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 1: pro tip on YouTube about how to control these drones better.

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01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 1: If you sit down, it's easier to control because you're

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01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 1: not holding the control in your hand, it's in your lap.

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01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 1: I said, sure, try it, and so we had such

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Speaker 1: a fun time. I'm just telling you this because drones are, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, they for a while they were like amazing,

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01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 1: and then people were, you know, hating on them, and

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01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 1: now they're just kind of like the part of our

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01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,680
Speaker 1: lives and they do a lot of amazing things in

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Speaker 1: this world. But if you haven't tried one or you

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01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 1: haven't flown one, they're really fun. Try to get your

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01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 1: hands on one, even one of the small ones. Like

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01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 1: at Target the other day they had like this twenty

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01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 1: dollars like tiny little drone that works inside. It was

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01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: literally like fits in the palm of your hand. So

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01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 1: just try it. They're really really fun. So I love

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01:15:57,439 --> 01:15:59,679
Speaker 1: the fact that my kid can fly this thing so well,

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01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 1: like he just the video that comes off of this

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01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 1: Dji thing is just so crisp and smooth, and it's

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01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: got to gimbal on it so it looks really really good.

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01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 1: So anyway, I just tell you that because it's just fun.

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01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 1: Let's see here, got a couple of stories I want

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01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 1: to get through. Maybe we'll make this sort of a

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01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 1: lightning round of stories.

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Speaker 2: Let's see.

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Speaker 1: Consumer Reports has an app called Permission Slip, and it

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01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 1: will help you use state laws to your advantage to

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01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 1: tell companies to stop selling your personal information or delete

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01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 1: it all together. This app, again is called Permission Slip.

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01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 1: It lets you easily request companies stop selling your data

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01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 1: or delete your data. And you can even put this

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01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 1: on autopilot, so if a new company comes into their database,

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01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 1: that they can work with, they will ask them to

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01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 1: get rid of it. They work with about one hundred

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01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 1: different companies, whether it's a big retailer or whether it's

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01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 1: one of these data collection companies that just collects a

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01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,640
Speaker 1: whole bunch of data on us. They will make the

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01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 1: opt out process a lot easier. Again, this is from

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01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 1: Consumer It's called permission Slip. It was recently updated and

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01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 1: I have not tried this personally, but I know a

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01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 1: lot of people have and.

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01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 2: They've seemed to have good responses.

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01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 1: But I think these companies have up to a certain

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01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 1: amount of time to get back to you to let

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01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 1: you know if they've deleted your info. But anyway, check

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01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 1: it out Permission Slip from Consumer Reports. It is free,

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01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 1: there's no subscription required. Apple this week introduced a new

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01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 1: lower cost Apple pencil for the iPad. This is a

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01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 1: seventy nine dollars Apple pencil that will work with all

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01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 1: iPads that have a USB C port. So there are

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01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,799
Speaker 1: now three different Apple pencil models. There is the Apple

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01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 1: Pencil first generation, the Apple Pencil second Generation, and now

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01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 1: the Apple Pencil Usb C. This one sits in the

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01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 1: middle of these two based on price and features. I

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01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 1: believe or maybe it's Actually it's the cheapest. It's seventy

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01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 1: nine dollars, so it's pretty inexpensive. I mean still expensive

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01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 1: if you ask me for a pencil, but it's you know,

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01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 1: it's an iPad, it's an Apple pens so it's going

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01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 1: to be expensive. This Apple pencil has a few features

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01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 1: that are new and a few features that are not there.

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01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:10,640
Speaker 1: So it charges via USBC. It magnetically attaches to the

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01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 1: side of compatible iPads, but it does not charge like

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01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 1: the us This is so confusing. But the Apple pencil

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01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 1: Generation two charges magnetically on the side of the iPad.

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01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 1: This one will connect, but it will not charge. Also,

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01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 1: it does not have pressure sensitivity, so if you want

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01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 1: to make like a thicker line by pressing harder on

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01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 1: the Apple pencil on the screen, it will not do that.

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01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 2: The second generation does.

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Speaker 1: So this is so complicated that Apple actually has a

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01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 1: matrix on their website about the three Apple pencils you

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01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 1: can choose. So they've got the first gen, the USBC,

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01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:49,680
Speaker 1: and the second gen. And you can't get this one

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01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 1: in grave for.

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01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:52,520
Speaker 2: Free for some reason. I don't know why.

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01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 1: But again, new Apple pencil, just be careful when you

1679
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 1: buy the Apple pencil because you need to get one

1680
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 1: that works with your iPad. And I would probably wreck

1681
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 1: going to an Apple store and making sure you know

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01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 1: the model number of your iPad. And you can find

1683
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 1: that by going into settings on your iPad and then

1684
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:12,760
Speaker 1: tapping settings General about and it will give you the

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01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:14,759
Speaker 1: model name. And that same thing goes for your iPhone.

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01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 1: I ask people all the time, Hey, which iPhone do

1687
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 1: you have? I don't know, it's just an iPhone. Well

1688
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:19,759
Speaker 1: look in the settings.

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01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:22,679
Speaker 2: Let me know. You probably heard about this story.

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01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 1: T Mobile raising prices for some unlimited plans, but you

1691
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 1: can opt out. So if customers are on one of

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01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 1: these old plans, the T Mobile one Simple Choice Magenta

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01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 1: Magenta fifty five plus, they are moving these folks to

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01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 1: a new unlimited plan, which happens to be about ten

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01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 1: dollars more per month. Now this has started on October seventeenth.

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01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 1: So and here's the thing. This was such a big deal.

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01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 1: It's got so many headlines that T Mobile had to

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01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 1: come out and say, ho, hold on, hold on, hold on, Uh,

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01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 1: you know it's not what you think.

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01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 2: This was a test.

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01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 1: This was not something we're doing for everyone. And so

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01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 1: they can out with a like a whole explainer, and

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01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 1: they said, Look, here's what they said. I want to

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01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,679
Speaker 1: make it clear that the test hasn't actually yet launched.

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01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 1: When it does, we will reach out to a small

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01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 1: subset of customers who are on older rate plans, some

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01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 1: up to a decade old, to let them know they

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01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to move from their existing plans to new,

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01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 1: better plans that offer more features and more value relative

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01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,680
Speaker 1: to what they have. None of this has happened yet,

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01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 1: but in the near future, eligible customers will get a

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01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 1: text and or an email from us before anything changes

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01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:31,600
Speaker 1: on their account. All of them will be given the

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01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 1: option to stay on their current plan or a similar

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01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 1: plan if they choose so. Again, T Mobile will be

1716
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 1: changing things, but it's not for everyone and it's not

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01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 1: an immediate thing, so just be on the lookout. If

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01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 1: they do email you, you can opt out of that

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01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 1: new plan. But if you have a plan that's ten

1720
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 1: years old, you might get some new benefits from a

1721
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 1: more expensive plan. IRS is going to do a direct

1722
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:57,759
Speaker 1: file pilot program for the twenty twenty four tax season,

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01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 1: so eligible taxpayers in thirteen states will be able to

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01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 1: file taxes directly with the IRS.

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Speaker 2: For free.

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01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 1: The goal is to test the feasibility of this and

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01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,680
Speaker 1: to identify, you know, sort of any challenges before they

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01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:14,880
Speaker 1: launch this wider. You know, for the whole US. This

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01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 1: is pretty limited. They're only in thirteen states. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: I think California, Arizona, Massachusetts, New York are part of these.

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Speaker 1: You can see the full list on the IRS website.

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Speaker 1: It's for people with simple tax situations, so you know,

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Speaker 1: basic things like a W two. Maybe you have some

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Speaker 1: extra income through you know, interest in things like that.

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Speaker 1: But it's very it's for simple tax situations. This is

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Speaker 1: not for complex tax situations. But again there will be

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Speaker 1: and it's not for everyone. Not everyone's going to have

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Speaker 1: the option to do this, but you may see that

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01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 1: you will have the option.

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Speaker 2: You might get something in the mail that says.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you're eligible to do this IRS direct file, which

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01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 1: is free. Now it's supposed to be a questionnaire style

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01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 1: form that's supposed to be easy to fill out all

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Speaker 1: by yourself. Now you might be saying, rich, what's difference

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01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 1: between this and something like TurboTax. Well, yes, there is

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01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 1: a free file program through some of the tax providers,

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01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 1: but that goes through a third party like TurboTax or

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Speaker 1: you know, into it whatever. This is directly with the IRS,

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01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 1: so they're basically starting their own tax filing service on

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Speaker 1: their website. I guess the way I would think about

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01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 1: this is if you just went and downloaded the tax

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01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 1: forms and filled them out manually, it's kind of like

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01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 1: the same thing, except you're doing it now through the

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Speaker 1: IRS website. So that is what's happening with the IRS.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what I think about this. I think

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Speaker 1: that taxes are very complicated. I think that if you

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Speaker 1: have a very simple tax situation and you go on

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Speaker 1: something like TurboTax, and there were, by the way, big

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Speaker 1: lawsuits about this because even though they offer a free

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Speaker 1: filing program, they hit it from people so that they

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Speaker 1: didn't actually find it and it would be really tough,

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01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:52,639
Speaker 1: and they would just pay fifty bucks to file their

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Speaker 1: taxes even though they could do it for free.

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Speaker 2: So the fact that the IRS.

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Speaker 1: Is going to make this easy simple, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of people out there that just have one W two

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01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 1: and maybe nothing else and they just want to file

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Speaker 1: their taxes in two minutes done.

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Speaker 2: You can do it through the website.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see what the results are of this pilot,

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Speaker 1: but uh, it's probably a good thing that they're doing it.

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Speaker 1: I think taxes should be simplified in general. They're just way, way,

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Speaker 1: way too complicated. People pay a lot of money to

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Speaker 1: a lot of people to do their taxes, and that's

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01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 1: great if you have a complex tax situation. But if

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01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 1: you have a simple tax situation and you're paying money

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Speaker 1: to the government, and I'm not going to get into

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01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 1: the whole you know, that whole side of things, but

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01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 1: you know it should be easy to give your money

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Speaker 1: to this unknown mass of anyway, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Rich on Tech Rich DeMuro here at Triple eight rich

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01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 1: one on one eight eight eight seven four to two

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Speaker 1: four one zero one. Coming up on the show, we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk to Michael Sino, a Google cyber security expert.

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01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 2: Plus more of your calls, emails, tax.

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Speaker 1: Tweets, and more tech news. You're listening to rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Let's go to Tatiana

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Speaker 1: in Banning, California, Line one, Tatiana your own with Rich Hi.

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Speaker 11: Well, I was calling about her about YouTube. You know,

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01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:16,200
Speaker 11: I wonder if you know, if you could help me.

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01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 11: I have a prime membership with YouTube, and it's worked

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01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:24,680
Speaker 11: fine until last week and the last few days, I

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01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 11: keep receiving all those you know, notification that I have

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01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 11: a blockers I have either to unblock or to switch

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01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 11: to Prime membership, and I already have Prime membership, and

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01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 11: I keep telling them sort of, and they said, report

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Speaker 11: the issue if it's not correct, and I keep reporting that, Hello,

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Speaker 11: I am a pro, I have Prime membership, and you

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01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 11: keep blocking me because sometimes they block and block, and

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Speaker 11: yesterday I was not able to watch you tube at

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Speaker 11: all and not that I you know, but plinty is

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01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 11: that why should I? You know, I have my Prime

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01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 11: membership and the worst thing is to reach anybody on

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01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 11: YouTube by a phone is not possible. They offer you

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01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 11: chat and the chat, you know, I tell him, Okay,

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01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:24,600
Speaker 11: I have Trime membership. Why you are you want me

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01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 11: to switch to Prime if I already have fun and

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01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 11: you are blocking me? And she says you have to

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01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 11: remove ad blocks, but okay, I show them up. You

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Speaker 11: know that's what you understand?

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: It is so a couple of things happening here. So

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Speaker 1: number one, uh, you're referring to YouTube prime membership. So

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Speaker 1: Amazon offers a prime membership. So if you have an

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Speaker 1: Amazon Prime membership, that does not give you access to YouTube,

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01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 1: you know, without ads. So that's number one. So it

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Speaker 1: is a separate membership. So if you are talking about YouTube,

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Speaker 1: what it's called is YouTube Premium. When it first was

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Speaker 1: introduced a couple of years ago, it was called YouTube read.

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Speaker 1: They have changed the name to YouTube Premium. And the

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Speaker 1: way that you can check if you have YouTube Premium

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Speaker 1: if you are paying, I believe I pay twenty two

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Speaker 1: to ninety nine a month.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how much.

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Speaker 1: I think it's fifteen ninety nine a month for the

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Speaker 1: standard I've got the family plan, but let's see the

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Speaker 1: standard plan individuals. Yeah, thirteen ninety nine a month. Family

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Speaker 1: is twenty two ninety nine a month. So you can

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01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 1: check to see if you are on a YouTube Premium

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Speaker 1: plan which gives you YouTube and YouTube music ad free

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Speaker 1: offline and in the background. You can go to YouTube

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Speaker 1: dot com slash Premium and when I go to that page,

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Speaker 1: it says you have YouTube Premium managed.

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Speaker 2: So that's the first thing, Tatiana.

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Speaker 1: If you don't see that when you go to that website,

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Speaker 1: you don't have YouTube Premium. Now, the second way to

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01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 1: check is to go to YouTube dot com and in

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Speaker 1: the left hand corner, in the upper left hand corner,

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01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 1: your YouTube icon changes from YouTube to a little icon

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Speaker 1: of the YouTube.

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Speaker 2: Screen and it says premium. So that's number one.

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Speaker 1: We just need to make sure that you're actually referring

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01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 1: to what you have. If you have Amazon Prime, that

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01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 1: does not give you access to YouTube Premium. Now the

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01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 1: second part of what you're talking about, the ad blocker.

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01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 1: YouTube has been cracking down on people using ad blockers

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01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:23,440
Speaker 1: to get rid of ads on YouTube. Why because YouTube

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01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:26,719
Speaker 1: and Google make a whole lot of money on serving

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01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 1: up ads during YouTube videos, and in the past people

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Speaker 1: were able to get around some of those ads by

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01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:35,639
Speaker 1: putting an ad blocker on their computer. Well, YouTube does

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01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 1: not like that, so they are cracking down, not on everyone,

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01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 1: not in every instance, not on every time, but they

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01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 1: are cracking down on some of the use of ad

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Speaker 1: blockers on YouTube. So if you do have an ad

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01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 1: blocker on your system and you're trying to access YouTube,

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01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 1: you will have to pause that ad blocker, and you

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01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:54,879
Speaker 1: can do that by tapping your ad blocker, and usually

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01:27:55,240 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 1: you can what's called allow list the website, so you

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01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 1: can say do not use this ad blocker on the

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Speaker 1: YouTube dot com website because it will not function properly.

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Speaker 1: And in general, if you're using an ad blocker on

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01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 1: your computer, you can disable that for a website. If

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01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 1: a website you visit is not working or it feels

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01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 1: a little wonky, then it's probably your ad blocker that

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01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 1: is interfering. But Tatiana, in response to your YouTube, when

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01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 1: you said about the customer service getting someone on chat,

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01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 1: you're right, it is tough to get someone on the phone.

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01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 1: But I do find that the YouTube. I had to

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01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 1: use them the other day for customer service, I did

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01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 1: find that they were actually pretty good. But yes, you

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01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 1: do have to chat with them, and you can go

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01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 1: and they try to they try to evade your chat too,

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01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 1: like they do anything to make you not chat. But

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01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 1: eventually you will be able to get them if you

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01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 1: keep just saying I want to talk to a representative,

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01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 1: like if they ask you questions on the website, it

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01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 1: says like, oh, can we help you with this, and

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01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:55,680
Speaker 1: they try to give you a help page, just keep

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01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:57,640
Speaker 1: saying like no, no, no, like click down, say this

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01:28:57,680 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 1: did not help me, this did not help me, this

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01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 1: did not help me, And that will get you to

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01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 1: the chat person. But yeah, that's the way these websites

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01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 1: work nowadays. You've got to do something, you got to

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01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 1: do it all through chat, just because that's the way

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Speaker 1: they want you to do it. Thanks for the call today, Tatiana.

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Speaker 1: Before we go to our next interview after the break,

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Speaker 1: I just want to tell you about this app. It's

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Speaker 1: called Google Magnifier. So Google has launched a magnifier app

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01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 1: for low vision users. So if you have a Pixel phone,

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01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 1: go to the Google Play Store and download a new

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Speaker 1: app called Magnifier, and make sure it's the one from Google,

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01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 1: because I'm sure there's going to be some others in there.

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01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 1: But this will let you use it as a user phone,

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01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:38,880
Speaker 1: as a magnifying glass. You can zoom in on things

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Speaker 1: using your camera. You can read small text menus, signs

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Speaker 1: from afar. And because it's for people with low vision,

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01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:50,920
Speaker 1: it's got different adjustments color filters, brightness contrasts. You can

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Speaker 1: better see things no matter what your level of eyesight is.

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Speaker 2: So this really.

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Speaker 1: Aims to help people with low vision in their everyday tasks. Again,

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01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:02,719
Speaker 1: Google launch a new app called Magnifier. It is only

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01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 1: available for the Pixel phones. I don't know why they

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01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:08,679
Speaker 1: did that. Google, please open this up to all Android phones.

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Speaker 1: You say, there's twelve million Americans that have vision impairment,

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01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 1: so please let's help them. Let's open this up to everyone,

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01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 1: not just pixel users. Again, Google Magnifier app for Pixel users. Now,

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01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:24,599
Speaker 1: Apple has a similar feature on their phone on the iPhone.

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Speaker 2: It's built in. It's called Magnifier.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to rich on Tech. Coming up, we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk to Michael Sino, a Google cyber security expert,

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Speaker 1: with tips on how to protect you online.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you talking technology. Recently

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Speaker 1: I chatted with Michael Sino, Google cybersecurity expert about cybersecurity

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01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 1: tips and tools. He dropped a surprising fact that last

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Speaker 1: year scammers made two hundred and ten million dollars off

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Speaker 1: of people under twenty. Yeah, surprising. So I started by

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Speaker 1: asking him, what is google stance on security?

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Speaker 10: Security at Google is one of our primary concerns. We

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01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 10: take it extremely seriously given our mission to organize the

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01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:20,679
Speaker 10: world's data. That you know, it's also there to protect

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01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:21,479
Speaker 10: the world's data.

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Speaker 1: Now you're saying you've seen a rise in young people

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01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 1: falling for online scams. Why do you think this generation

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01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:31,439
Speaker 1: is more susceptible to these scams when you would think

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01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 1: the opposite would be the case.

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Speaker 10: I think it's a matter of exposure. Young people are

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Speaker 10: spending more and more time online in different apps in

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Speaker 10: different ways, and scammers are honestly adjusting to learn their

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01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 10: habits and and and you know the trigger you know

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Speaker 10: their triggers. So the technology is getting better to try

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Speaker 10: to scam them, and while at the same time they're

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Speaker 10: spending you know, a much larger amount of time online.

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Speaker 10: And let's just say my mother, or my grandmother or

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Speaker 10: even me in many cases.

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Speaker 1: So what are some of the examples of the types

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Speaker 1: of online scams that we're seeing target young people.

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01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, one of the biggest is still fishing, right, so

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01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:19,200
Speaker 10: the oldie but a goody, you know. Nine of data

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Speaker 10: breaches start with fishing, you know, from from small from

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Speaker 10: you know, small things. Where's it's one person that give

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Speaker 10: out their credit card number two large companies getting getting

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Speaker 10: hacked via phishing attempts, and they're getting harder and harder

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Speaker 10: to detect because people, the people perpetrating these scams are

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Speaker 10: getting smarter about how they do it. The wording is

1947
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:46,360
Speaker 10: getting better because in many cases it was easy in

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Speaker 10: the past to spot them because the wording would be off.

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Speaker 10: If it was in English, it wouldn't it would just

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Speaker 10: look incorrect. The fhreezing would be a correct But with

1951
01:32:56,439 --> 01:32:58,599
Speaker 10: the rise of AI and a number of other tools,

1952
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 10: it's starting to look you know, much more legitimate and

1953
01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:07,840
Speaker 10: harder to detect. But you know, in many cases, you know,

1954
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Speaker 10: if you're using Gmail, uh, you know, we block one

1955
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 10: hundred million fishing attempts a day, so it's like ninety

1956
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 10: nine percent of them, but some still slip through. So

1957
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Speaker 10: if if if you're not sure of the link, this

1958
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:23,400
Speaker 10: is what I tell both my daughters, don't click it,

1959
01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:26,360
Speaker 10: take a look. If it's from a business, make sure

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Speaker 10: that you call the business if you're unsure to see

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Speaker 10: if this is legitimate, or if it's someone trying to

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Speaker 10: get money from you or get your personal information. You know,

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Speaker 10: the biggest tip is, I don't give out anything unless

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Speaker 10: you know exactly who you're talking to. Right, if you're

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Speaker 10: talking to your bank, right, if you're talking to a

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Speaker 10: business that you've engaged with before, great, But if you're

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Speaker 10: not sure, don't do it. And you know, if if

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Speaker 10: an offer you get looks too good to be true,

1969
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:55,040
Speaker 10: like you know, a device for a dollar, or you

1970
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 10: know you can get free headphones, that is most likely

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01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:03,280
Speaker 10: going to be not a legitimate offer, so don't fall

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Speaker 10: for it.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of this is education, just being aware

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Speaker 1: of the various types of scams, the various methods that

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Speaker 1: scam artists use. It used to be back in the

1976
01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:16,559
Speaker 1: day we were worried about viruses infecting our devices. I

1977
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:20,280
Speaker 1: always tell people these days, it's really you against the

1978
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:22,799
Speaker 1: scammers that that are trying to send you these links

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01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:24,640
Speaker 1: and different things that try to trick you.

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Speaker 10: It's true, and in many cases one can lead to

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Speaker 10: the other. You'll get an email that says click this link,

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01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:33,640
Speaker 10: and the link isn't there to harvest your data, but

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Speaker 10: it's there to get you to install a virus or

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Speaker 10: or malware onto your machine. That is, you know, that's

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Speaker 10: a whole you know, a whole whole. Other problem is

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01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:45,599
Speaker 10: some of these links will then be you know, persist

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Speaker 10: on your machine and harvest data or or take data

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Speaker 10: off off of your machine. So it is a combination

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Speaker 10: of viruses combined with phishing and other other attempts.

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Speaker 1: So October is cybersecurity awareness month, What what is mean

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01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:02,920
Speaker 1: exactly and what do you think people should do to

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Speaker 1: not celebrate but to honor this, you know, this month

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Speaker 1: and and really educate themselves about this stuff.

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Speaker 10: You know to me cybersecurity, whereas a month is a

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Speaker 10: good opportunity for everybody to take stock of how how

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Speaker 10: they behave online and what they use online. And one

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Speaker 10: of the biggest things is evaluating your passwords. In May,

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Speaker 10: we announced that we are deploying what's called now pass

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Speaker 10: keys to Google accounts and it's a much easier way

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Speaker 10: to log in. All you need to use it. It's

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Speaker 10: the same way you would log into your computer with

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Speaker 10: a face scan or a fingerprint or a pin code,

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Speaker 10: and it can be linked to not only your Google account,

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Speaker 10: but we've partnered with Uber and Hope depot in a

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01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:47,640
Speaker 10: number of others and it's it's a much more you know,

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01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 10: a much more secure way and you don't have to

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Speaker 10: give out any information. But we realize that not everybody's

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Speaker 10: there yet, So the next piece is looking at your

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Speaker 10: passwords and ensuring that you use a complex password and

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Speaker 10: you don't use the same passwords everywhere, so you know,

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Speaker 10: in that case, using a password manager like Google Password

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Speaker 10: manager will help generate the passwords for you and store

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Speaker 10: them and then keep them on all of your devices

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Speaker 10: so that you don't you don't really have to enter anything.

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Speaker 10: It will enter it for you, and it will keep

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Speaker 10: them different. So your your your bank password is different

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Speaker 10: from your other bank password, which is different than an

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Speaker 10: online retailer password. So in case one gets compromised, they

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Speaker 10: don't they can't log into any of the other accounts.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to talk about pass keys in a moment.

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Speaker 2: I want to go back to that.

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Speaker 1: But this password manager idea. I've been a big advocate

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Speaker 1: of password managers for a long time, but still many

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Speaker 1: many people are hesitant to use them because they see

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Speaker 1: them as very complicated, and they also get scared when

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Speaker 1: they see those complex passwords that they are generating, and

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Speaker 1: they think, there's no way I'll ever remember that. And

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Speaker 1: if I can't remember it, I'm going to be locked

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Speaker 1: out of my account. So can you explain in a

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Speaker 1: little bit more detail how those password managers work and

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Speaker 1: how they get you back into your accounts.

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Speaker 2: You know, automatically.

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Speaker 10: Sure each password manager, you know, whether it's Google password manager,

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Speaker 10: I know other stores your passwords securely in Google's case

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Speaker 10: on our servers, and in many cases, there's no need

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Speaker 10: for you to remember the individual password for the site

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01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:26,800
Speaker 10: because it will it will auto fill it. Like I

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Speaker 10: can honestly say, I don't know most of my bank

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Speaker 10: passwords by heart. They're stored there. They're storage securely, they're encrypted,

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Speaker 10: and if you have multiple devices like a phone and

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Speaker 10: a computer, it will replicate across both of them, so

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Speaker 10: it will store them there, so wherever you are and

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Speaker 10: whatever you're logging in on, it can auto fill them

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Speaker 10: for you. On top of that, you know, on top

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Speaker 10: of passwords, Two step verification is another good option to

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Speaker 10: ensure even if your password does get compromised, there's a

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Speaker 10: second factor of authorization and authentication to get into your account.

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Speaker 2: On the past keys.

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Speaker 1: If I lose the device that is my past key,

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Speaker 1: can I use multiple devices to actually authenticate my logins

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Speaker 1: or is it tied to just one device.

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Speaker 10: It depends on how you set it up so multiple

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01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:17,120
Speaker 10: it can be replicated across multiple devices. But yeah, so

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Speaker 10: you can also recover your account. In many cases it would,

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Speaker 10: it would take multiple steps and it's not the easiest process,

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Speaker 10: but that's for the for the safety, for your safety,

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Speaker 10: so accounts can be recovered from a Google perspective, but yes,

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Speaker 10: they can be used on multiple devices.

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Speaker 1: Okay, where can people go to find more information about

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Speaker 1: all of these online safety resources.

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Speaker 10: You can look at safety dot Google dot com and

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Speaker 10: also FamilyLink dot Google dot com for tips on securing

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Speaker 10: your children and your family.

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Speaker 1: Many times people will tell me, Rich, I don't really

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Speaker 1: need to do this because it's they're not targeting me,

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Speaker 1: They're not trying to come after what do I have?

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Speaker 2: What do you say to that?

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Speaker 10: What we have is our data, right, are our aims,

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01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:04,920
Speaker 10: our social security numbers, our bank accounts. So they're you know,

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Speaker 10: I look at it as they're they're targeting everybody because

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Speaker 10: you never know when someone's going to come trying to

2072
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:13,040
Speaker 10: break into your bank account to take your money. But yeah,

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Speaker 10: it's it's it's it's extremely common. Billions and millions of

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Speaker 10: dollars go out the window from people every you know,

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01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 10: every year on credit card fraud, bank fraud, all from

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01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 10: you know, accidentally clicking the wrong link and giving the

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Speaker 10: wrong person their information.

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Speaker 1: Once again, that was Michael Sino, director of Security Incident

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Speaker 1: Response at Google. You can go to the website safety

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Speaker 1: dot Google dot com. For more information on pass keys.

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01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:42,559
Speaker 1: You can also see safety tips and do a security

2082
01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:46,000
Speaker 1: check up on your Google account and review your privacy settings.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to Rich on Tech, give me a call.

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Speaker 1: It's triple eight rich one oh one. That's eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight seven four two four one zero one. Welcome back

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01:40:01,479 --> 01:40:05,040
Speaker 1: to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out with you,

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Speaker 1: talking technology. And this is the part of the show

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Speaker 1: where I respond to your emails, your texts, your tweets,

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Speaker 1: your feedback.

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Speaker 2: We call it the feedback segment.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, there are a lot of comments questions, so

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01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:24,880
Speaker 1: some of you send comments and questions mixed into one.

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01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:27,679
Speaker 1: So some of these will be comments, some will be questioned,

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Speaker 1: some will be answers. Let me just make sure I

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01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:32,760
Speaker 1: went through everything I wanted to get through today. That

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01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:37,040
Speaker 1: was interesting enough. Oh oh, I wanted to mention this

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Speaker 1: hold on this. So Wirecutter just came out with some

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01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 1: reviews of tabletop radios.

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Speaker 2: I thought this was pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: So if you want to get a tabletop radio to

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01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:49,120
Speaker 1: listen to things like this show, they have a couple

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Speaker 1: of top picks now. So their top pick for the

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01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:59,360
Speaker 1: tabletop radio is the san Gean WR fifteen for one

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01:40:59,479 --> 01:41:03,879
Speaker 1: hundred dollars. This has a classic style, smooth controls, strong reception,

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01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:08,320
Speaker 1: and rich sound. And that is a radio that stands

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01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:11,760
Speaker 1: kind of vertically. If you want a horizontal design, the

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01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:15,920
Speaker 1: sang In WR eleven s is eighty five dollars with

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Speaker 1: similar features. Now, if you just want a pure and simple,

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Speaker 1: kind of classic looking radio, the Studa Baker SB two thousand,

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Speaker 1: Wirecutter says it's very affordable at twenty five dollars, and

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Speaker 1: it's portable. And if you want oh FM only, well, okay,

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Speaker 1: if you want FM only, Victrola Houston is sixty dollars.

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Speaker 1: Wirecutter said they tested the radios on things like channel reception,

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01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:44,920
Speaker 1: signal clarity, sound quality, Bluetooth range, and ease of use.

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Speaker 1: Most shoppers want a radio that's attractive but has a

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Speaker 1: retro design that will look nice in their home. Ease

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Speaker 1: of use is also important. Sound quality is less of

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Speaker 1: a concern than aesthetics for most people, and I love

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Speaker 1: the sound of this. AM reception is considered a must have.

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Speaker 1: So if you want a tabletop radio, those are the

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Speaker 1: picks from Wirecutter. I thought that was pretty cool when

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Speaker 1: I started this show. I got a classic like my

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01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:13,960
Speaker 1: mom bought me an antique classic radio.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to some of these questions and

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Speaker 1: feedback things. So Derek says, Hey, Rich, I sent Apple

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Speaker 1: two older phones, an iPhone eight plus and an iPhone

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01:42:26,479 --> 01:42:29,720
Speaker 1: twelve Promax to replace the batteries. Both phones came back

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Speaker 1: as motherboards must be replaced in order to do the

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01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:35,719
Speaker 1: battery replacement. Motherboards would be five hundred dollars a piece,

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Speaker 1: battery replacement one hundred and twenty nine. I had Apple

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Speaker 1: send both of them back to me without doing the repair.

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Speaker 1: I've since taken them to a non official tech shop

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Speaker 1: and they replaced both batteries, not the motherboards, and they

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Speaker 1: work just fine.

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Speaker 2: I have always trusted Apple. Now I'm not so sure.

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Speaker 1: Both phones needing motherboard replacements seems fishy to me, Derek. Derek,

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Speaker 1: I think what you experienced is that when Apple does repair,

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01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:04,000
Speaker 1: they have certain standards to adhere to, and so the

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Speaker 1: battery probably need to be replaced, but they probably identified

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Speaker 1: something in the motherboard that also needed to be replaced.

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Speaker 1: Or maybe they're using a newer battery that needs a

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Speaker 1: newer motherboard. I'm not sure, but that's the beauty of

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Speaker 1: having options when it comes to repairs. Now, I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure with this non official tech shop if you got

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Speaker 1: any sort of warranty or you know, if this is

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Speaker 1: guaranteed to work for a long period of time. But

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Speaker 1: I think you were right on not spending seven hundred

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Speaker 1: dollars to replace these motherboards and batteries on these devices.

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Speaker 1: So the non official tech shop they replace the batteries.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it was cheaper than even one twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: If the phones work, they work, and so good for you.

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01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:42,400
Speaker 1: But it's nice to have options. I think the official

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Speaker 1: repairs bring with them a little bit more of an

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Speaker 1: official warranty and things like that, so that's probably the

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Speaker 1: differentiation there. Kevin says, good morning, Rich. I've been listening

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Speaker 1: to your show for many years and I look forward

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Speaker 1: to it every week.

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Speaker 2: We live in a rural area outside of Houston.

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Speaker 1: We've had horrible internet for the past twenty years, and

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Speaker 1: we're finally blessed with Starlink. I want to bypass bypass

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Speaker 1: the starlink router and connect one that will accommodate a

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Speaker 1: fairly large home. Am I better off buying a router

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Speaker 1: out of the box or using something like an access point?

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I go okay, could you possibly

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Speaker 1: let me know what router you'd recommend that works best

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Speaker 1: with starlink. I know enough about tech to get in trouble,

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Speaker 1: but I can't easily always get out. Thanks for taking

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Speaker 1: the time to read this. Any help would be great,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Kevin, I would recommend yeah, bypassing the starlink router

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Speaker 1: and just using something like ero E E r O

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Speaker 1: or something like Villo v I l O or Netgear

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Speaker 1: orb O r B. I those are mesh networks. I

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Speaker 1: think any of those will work. You have a big house,

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Speaker 1: you'll probably need two to three access points to cover

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Speaker 1: your home. And if you want to do something that's

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Speaker 1: like outside, like if you have a pool or something,

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Speaker 1: you might I think the neck gear has the ORB

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Speaker 1: has like an outdoor access point as well. Bill says,

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Speaker 1: didn't know if you're following this or how important it

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Speaker 1: is to most people, but this was recently announced by Google,

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Speaker 1: and he sent a link that said Google Podcasts is

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Speaker 1: going to be discontinued and switching to YouTube music app.

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Speaker 1: Bill says, for me, I use the Google podcast app

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Speaker 1: all the time. I'm not using YouTube very often. I

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Speaker 1: will be switching everything to Amazon Music, to which I subscribe.

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Speaker 1: It works well for me, and some of the subscribe

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Speaker 1: podcasts are ad free with Amazon.

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Speaker 2: Your podcast is number one for me anyway.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for continuing to provide such great information, Bill, Bill. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Google podcast is going away. It's going to be shifted

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Speaker 1: to YouTube Music. But I'll be honest, I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of people with podcasts. It's either Apple Podcasts or

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Speaker 1: Spotify or iHeartRadio app or pocket casts. Those are the

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Speaker 1: big podcast apps. I don't think Google podcasts ever really

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Speaker 1: took off in a big way.

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Speaker 2: And it's Google.

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Speaker 1: They lose attention very easily, so when they see people

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Speaker 1: aren't using that app, they say, oh, never mind, we'll

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Speaker 1: just mix this into YouTube music. It also makes YouTube

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Speaker 1: music a little stickier because now people are checking it

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Speaker 1: on a daily basis to get their favorite podcasts, and

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Speaker 1: then maybe they're playing the music or they want to

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Speaker 1: subscribe or something like that.

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Speaker 2: But there you go. Randall says Rich. I enjoy your

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Speaker 2: radio program on KFI.

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Speaker 1: I recently bought an inexpensive smart watch eighty bucks through Amazon.

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Speaker 1: Has all the features whether I need them or not.

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Speaker 1: There appear to be dozens of smart watches who advertise

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Speaker 1: on Amazon. They all have the same features. My wife

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Speaker 1: bought an Apple smart watch. Her cost three hundred and

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Speaker 1: eighty nine dollars. I know it's a rhetorical question, but

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Speaker 1: what did my wife get with her Apple watch that

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Speaker 1: I did not. I haven't compared the two watches, but

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Speaker 1: I bet we'll have some of the same functions.

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Speaker 2: Randal.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yes, I've tested some of these cheapy Apple

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Speaker 1: or you know watches on Amazon, and yeah, they do

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Speaker 1: the basics, they do them just fine. But the difference

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Speaker 1: is you're getting the ecosystem, you're getting the support. You're

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Speaker 1: obviously paying a little higher price tag because it's an

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Speaker 1: Apple device. And yes, there are some things that the

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Speaker 1: Apple want we'll be able to do, specifically with apps

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Speaker 1: that you will not be able to get on your

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Speaker 1: smart watch. But the bottom line, no matter what is

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Speaker 1: if it works for you, that's all that matters. If

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Speaker 1: you enjoy this smart watch that you bought at this

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Speaker 1: smart price, that is absolutely fine.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy it. Jamie says.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to say how thankful I am for Rich

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Speaker 1: Demiro with all his guidance in technology.

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Speaker 2: He's one of the main reasons I watch KTLA.

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Speaker 1: Rich has a good energy and advice, and I hope

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Speaker 1: we will watch him for a long time. Thank you, Rich, Jamie.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, thank you Jamie. Uh, that's not from my mom.

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Speaker 1: That's from Jamie. Thanks for the email. I appreciate that,

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Speaker 1: Ken says, Hey, Rich, a few months ago, you were

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Speaker 1: remarking about several different note taking apps. I'm curious, did

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Speaker 1: you ever eventually choose one? If so, which one? If

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Speaker 1: you can believe it, Ken, after testing every single note

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Speaker 1: app for weeks on end, Joplin, Obsidian, Notion, every single

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Speaker 1: little app you can imagine out there, I went back

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Speaker 1: to ever Note. I will tell you why, just like

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Speaker 1: I said for the last email. If it works for you,

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Speaker 1: that's all that matters. Evernote does exactly what I need. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's expensive. It's one hundred bucks for the year, and

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Speaker 1: that is not ideal. One hundred and thirty dollars I

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Speaker 1: think I paid. But it does what I need and

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Speaker 1: I'm using it for business. I use it to produce

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Speaker 1: this entire show. You gotta have something that works for you.

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Speaker 1: If you're doing something, you need the tools that are

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Speaker 1: right for the job. Ever Note works for me. Maybe

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Speaker 1: that'll change in the future, but I will say notion

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Speaker 1: was a very close second to what I needed. It

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Speaker 1: just didn't work in the exact kind of thing I wanted.

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Speaker 1: All right, One more website, moviewiser dot com. This was

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Speaker 1: Bluegreen on Instagram, he suggested, moviewiser dot com. This is

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Speaker 1: an AI website to help you pick your next movie

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Speaker 1: to watch. Thanks for the feedback, Blue Green on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's it. That's gonna do it for this

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Speaker 1: episode of the show. If you can believe it, you

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Speaker 1: can find links to everything I mentioned on my website.

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Speaker 1: Just go to rich on Tech TV for the show notes.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on social media at richon Tech.

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Speaker 1: Next week, I'm going to share my thoughts on the Rivian. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I said, I drove it up here to pass a

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Speaker 1: Roboles driving it back down to LA and I will

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Speaker 1: have all of my thoughts on that car. Thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for listening. There are so many ways you can

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Speaker 1: spend your time. I do appreciate you spending it right

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Speaker 1: here with me. Thanks to everyone who makes this show possible.

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Speaker 2: My name is rich Dmiro. I'll talk to you real soon.