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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us

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Speaker 1: as we roll through today's program. Got a couple of

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Speaker 1: great guests coming down the line. Tutor Dixon, an awful

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Speaker 1: story out of Michigan, another legal immigrant taking a life

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Speaker 1: that is getting a great deal of attention and none

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Speaker 1: of these should be happening. We will talk about that

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Speaker 1: with her, as well as Michigan as a battleground state.

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Speaker 1: She's part of the Clay and Buck podcast network. Andy

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Speaker 1: McCarthy on the absolute latest wranglings related to the Trump

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Speaker 1: legal process. All of that coming your way during the

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Speaker 1: course of the show. But there are three big stories

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Speaker 1: I would say in conjunction that we will be talking about.

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Speaker 1: The Francis Scott Key Bridge, I'm sure many of you

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Speaker 1: have seen by now collapsed after being hit by a

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Speaker 1: large tanker. The bridge saw this last night happen.

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Speaker 2: Buck.

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Speaker 1: When I saw the video, I thought it had to

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Speaker 1: be AI with all of the talk about AI, because

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Speaker 1: I had just never seen a bridge, certainly not in America,

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Speaker 1: collapse like this one did.

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Speaker 2: When it was struck by the boat.

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Speaker 1: They are still looking for survivors potentially, but it sounds

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Speaker 1: like there will be six to eight casualties, which given

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Speaker 1: the collapse of the bridge, is really remarkable. They were

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Speaker 1: able to may day ahead potentially and keep the number

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Speaker 1: of cars limited on that bridge. But just a crazy

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Speaker 1: story to follow. We'll talk about that. Truth Social has

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Speaker 1: made its debut and Donald Trump on paper is now

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Speaker 1: has now has over five billion dollars in truth Social stock.

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Speaker 1: Let me see what the absolute latest on this is.

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Speaker 1: Buck out there.

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Speaker 2: I had coffee with a friend this morning who knows

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Speaker 2: the financial world, and we both came to this inclusion.

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Speaker 2: It's remarkable the Democrats seem to be in process of

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Speaker 2: making Trump president again and making him a billionaire again

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Speaker 2: so he can make America great again. I mean that

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Speaker 2: the legal stuff is backfiring, the financial stuff is backfiring.

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Speaker 2: I know it's early. I know we don't know where

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Speaker 2: this all ends up. But Clay, if someone had told

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Speaker 2: me that Trump was going to be worth five billion

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Speaker 2: liquid in addition to all the real this is totally

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Speaker 2: separate from all the real estate hold things and all

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Speaker 2: the brand value, I would have said not in a

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Speaker 2: million years. I mean, it's just so hard to do that,

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Speaker 2: and here we are.

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Speaker 1: That is also where I hope that the legacy of

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Speaker 1: the lawfair is going to be, that it blows up

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Speaker 1: so much in Democrats' faces that even though legally someone

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Speaker 1: might be willing to try it again, that they set

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Speaker 1: around and say, well, remember what happened with Trump. Let's

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Speaker 1: be careful here. Let's try to beat him in the

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Speaker 1: ballot box and not try to put him in prison

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Speaker 1: for the rest of his life and bankrupt him. I

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Speaker 1: also would say this, there are a lot of you

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Speaker 1: out there listening that are very frustrated with what you've

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Speaker 1: seen occurring in our culture, whether it's bud Light, whether

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Speaker 1: it's Planet Fitness, whether it's Disney, the culture of wokeness

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Speaker 1: that has infected so much of this country right now.

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Speaker 1: I think Elon Musk calls it accurately buck the woke

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Speaker 1: mind virus that has taken over and led so many

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Speaker 1: of us fellow citizens astray. There is opportunity in chaos,

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Speaker 1: and there is opportunity in awful decision making. And Trump

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Speaker 1: is becoming this is the greatest wealth creation day in

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Speaker 1: his entire life, and he's had a lot of them

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Speaker 1: over the years, and it's all because they banned him

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Speaker 1: from Twitter, from Instagram, from Facebook, from all of those companies.

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Speaker 1: If they just hadn't banned him, I think the odds

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Speaker 1: of him starting his own social media company would have

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Speaker 1: been low. He saw the opportunity, he's taken advantage of it.

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Speaker 1: We don't know where it's going to go from here,

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Speaker 1: and we'll have some conversations about this, but the fact

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Speaker 1: that he was able to create this situation at all

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Speaker 1: is a testament to see an opportunity and seizing it.

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Speaker 2: I think it would be hard to come up with

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Speaker 2: a way to unite conservatives more aggressively together than to

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Speaker 2: do exactly what they have been doing for so many

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Speaker 2: people that I know. You know, for example, even if

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Speaker 2: I remember Tucker said this that when they rated mar

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Speaker 2: A Lago, as much as he was frustrated about some

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Speaker 2: aspects of you know, twenty twenty and Jay six and

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Speaker 2: everything else with regard to Trump, and Tucker said that

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Speaker 2: that it was just over for him. It's all about

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Speaker 2: not let it. You can't let this stand. Like you

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Speaker 2: don't have a republic anymore, you don't have a system

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Speaker 2: of elected government and rule of law instead of rule

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Speaker 2: of men, if you can and just have on some

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Speaker 2: preposterous pretext, as we said all along, like you know,

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Speaker 2: if they found five bodies in the yard at mar

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Speaker 2: there are there are reasons to investigate. They sent an

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Speaker 2: FBI team into the guy's house over documents, and I

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Speaker 2: know all the arguments to his president, but just put

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Speaker 2: that aside for a second. It obviously didn't need to happen.

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Speaker 2: It was show trial stuff. It was Soviet stuff. And

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Speaker 2: so for a lot of people any misgivings that they've

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Speaker 2: had about you know, is Trump the right guy again?

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Speaker 2: Maybe he was the right guy in twenty sixteen and

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty. Is he still the right guy given what

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Speaker 2: the Democrats have done to him? I think people are

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Speaker 2: shouting more than ever, more loudly than ever, on the

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Speaker 2: right he's the only guy. I also think it's evidence

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Speaker 2: of many of the narratives that Democrats have totally collapsing

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Speaker 2: around them. I read yesterday on Friday they sent out

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Speaker 2: the Biden Harris Camp did a email calling Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: broke don with the idea being, oh, he we've bankrupted him.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't have any money, and now he has tangible

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Speaker 2: estate guy has always been the question about Trump in

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Speaker 2: the past, because what stake do you have in that building?

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Speaker 2: What's the value of that building at its present present price,

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Speaker 2: what is the interest rates going to be?

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Speaker 1: What is the actual yield on some of these properties?

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Speaker 1: We never really knew. Now all we have to do

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Speaker 1: to figure out what Trump's truth Social value is is

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Speaker 1: price that it presently is roughly five billion.

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Speaker 2: Dollars in truth Social today.

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Speaker 1: And I think you and I, if we had been

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Speaker 1: forecasting truth Social, I would have never expected Trump to

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Speaker 2: When the company idea came out, I also am very

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Speaker 2: encouraged because I was for for years, uh Clay, even

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Speaker 2: this show. One of the things that I'll be honest,

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Speaker 2: I would just get so frustrated about was the recognition

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Speaker 2: but really of commerce that in the digital you know,

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Speaker 2: internet first era we lived in, they had seized all

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Speaker 2: everything from social media to who's delivering you know, toilet

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Speaker 2: the electron through to even be on the internet, all

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Speaker 2: of it, they had taken all of it. The parallel

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Speaker 2: economy that we are seeing emerging, and I will say, uh,

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Speaker 2: that includes some of our our stalwarts sponsors on this

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Speaker 2: other conservative shows for years too. It is growing by

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Speaker 2: And I'm you know so that's why when I see

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Speaker 2: the truth social thing and I see you know, different

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Speaker 2: all the time about how we could contribute to this

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Speaker 2: your values. I always tell people, you know, I want

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Speaker 2: gonna take it. That's why I started out kick. I

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Speaker 2: didn't know exactly where everything was going. But if you

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Speaker 1: Say to all of you out there, frustration, anger, that's

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Speaker 1: not a strategy, but it can lead to a strategy.

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Speaker 2: And if you are an entrepreneur, if you are a.

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Speaker 1: Capitalist, there are a lot of opportunities out there, as

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Speaker 1: Buck said in the Parallel Economy, for you to find

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Speaker 1: a way to not just make money, which is great,

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Speaker 1: but to also make money while advocating for things that

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Speaker 1: Here's Stuart Varney, by the way, on Fox Business discussing

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Speaker 1: Truth Social Now. To be fair, there is a meme

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Speaker 1: stock element to this. For those of you who followed

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Speaker 1: Game Stop, bed Bath and beyond. I bet a lot

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Speaker 1: of people who are listening to us right now are

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Speaker 1: buying stock in Truth Social symbol DGT DJT sorry because

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Speaker 1: they want to show support for Donald Trump. And Stuart

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Speaker 1: Varney talks about that a little bit. Cut five.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to get back to DJT as in Donald J.

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Speaker 3: Trump the stock it's now forty one percent, it's open

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Speaker 3: for trading azod this morning. Are people buying this company

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Speaker 3: this stock because they think it's got inherent value, or

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Speaker 3: because they want to demonstrate support for Donald Trump. I

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Speaker 3: way it'll play out. It's a bet on whether Trump

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Speaker 2: If he loses, I think the stock Ghost will it down.

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Speaker 2: If he wins, it looks like he's going to win.

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Speaker 3: I think the stock does well because then truth Social

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Speaker 1: I think there's some truth to that. Again, what is

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Speaker 1: is this? This is Truth Social is essentially worthless? Not surprising.

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Speaker 1: Adam Pollock says if Trump tried to sell the company

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Speaker 2: Here's cut eight.

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Speaker 4: I think that the value is essentially worthless. This is

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Speaker 4: a company that doesn't make any money. And sure they

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Speaker 4: could change the bylaws and end the lock up period

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Speaker 2: That's what I said yesterday to be fair that it's

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Speaker 2: not like you can just unload the stock and then

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Speaker 2: as you know. It's not like Trump got to check

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Speaker 2: installments for the rest of your life. And you know,

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Speaker 2: I think though that Clay. What we see is people

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Speaker 2: are recognizing that, you know, conservative media came along, thank

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Speaker 2: counter narrative, right, But what we've seen is the counter

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Speaker 1: So in every ad agency, which may be the locust

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Speaker 5: Hey, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 5: Leftists cousins who need the money. I mean, honestly, there

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Speaker 5: It's the most asinine thing I've ever heard of. I

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Speaker 2: and it is there. Tutor, are Michiganders. Now, I know

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Speaker 2: But just in terms of this program, you're talking about

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Speaker 5: And so she has kind of this playful attitude here

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Speaker 5: in the state of Michigan. This new situation, I think

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Speaker 5: it'll be interesting to see how this new policy she's

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Speaker 5: put out there will play, because I think it's the

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Speaker 5: worst possible thing in the midst of a border crisis.

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Speaker 5: We know that's the number one issue out there, and

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Speaker 5: yet she's playing on the other side of that issue.

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Speaker 5: I think that's incredibly dangerous for her because she does

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Speaker 5: have a pretty good approval rating. I think this is

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Speaker 5: the moment where that could tank. You'll notice that he

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Speaker 5: was just here at a golf course a week ago,

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Speaker 5: and she didn't go again. She was out making beer.

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Speaker 5: That's her thing, so she was making beer in Kalamazoo.

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Speaker 5: He's in Saganaw, Michigan. She doesn't even mention that he's here.

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Speaker 5: She's posting videos of herself making beer just one of

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Speaker 5: the goals at the bar, and says nothing about Joe Biden.

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Speaker 5: She's the co chair, one of the co chairs of

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Speaker 5: his campaign. She doesn't even say hello to him when

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Speaker 5: he's in her own state.

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Speaker 1: Tudor what do you think about the Arab and is

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Speaker 1: Israeli voter issue in Michigan, because it seems clear that

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Speaker 1: the Biden White House is just terrified of figuring out

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Speaker 1: how to manage this because they're losing a lot of

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Speaker 1: supportive Arab voters. There's this huge population in Dearborn area,

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Speaker 1: as you know, that tends to vote Democrat, and then

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Speaker 1: the Jewish vote has tended to go Democrat in Michigan

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Speaker 1: as well. Are you in the of the opinion that

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Speaker 1: Biden is in trouble given how close Michigan is with

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to handle that duo, given

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Speaker 1: that they're basically completely contradictory yet two staples of his coalition.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, it's a big deal. They know it's a big

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Speaker 5: deal here in the state of Michigan. It goes beyond

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Speaker 5: just those communities though, because they have infiltrated the college

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Speaker 5: campuses with this radical notion that Israel's so bad, and

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Speaker 5: so a lot of that uncommitted vote you'll notice, came

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Speaker 5: from Michigan State. It came from the University of Michigan.

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Speaker 5: Those are two big voting blocks for them, So they

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Speaker 5: could say, Okay, we're going to be okay with without Dearborn,

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Speaker 5: without ham Tramick, We'll move on from those communities. We'll

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Speaker 5: try to get our standard Democrats out. But now the

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Speaker 5: young people are turning against them because they're like, wait

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Speaker 5: a minute, wait a minute, you told us this was bad.

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Speaker 5: We want these people are being oppressed. You know, Oppressors

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Speaker 5: are bad, occupiers are bad. Okay, so now we're against you.

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Speaker 5: Joe Biden, it's a mess for him. You've got Chuck

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Speaker 5: Schumer coming out and saying he wants to get rid

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Speaker 5: of net and Yahoo. They need to have a new election.

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Speaker 5: And you see Democrats are going, wait a minute, you

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Speaker 5: don't actually get involved in someone else's election. Even Democrats

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Speaker 5: are saying, whoa, this is crazy. It's desperation because they

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Speaker 5: see that they are potentially going to lose Michigan, and

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Speaker 5: Michigan oftentimes dictates how the presidential election will go. They

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Speaker 5: were shocked when they lost to Michigan in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 5: They vowed to never do it again. They took the

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Speaker 5: Colorado playbook and they brought it to Michigan. They've been

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Speaker 5: filtrated Michigan with all these outside groups. They've done this

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Speaker 5: in several of the the legislative districts. They flipped them blue.

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Speaker 5: They think that's permanent. It's very fresh. It just happened

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Speaker 5: in twenty two. They could potentially lose Michigan and then

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Speaker 5: their whole playbook kind of gets thrown out the window,

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Speaker 5: and they don't exactly know how to handle it because

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Speaker 5: they've turned the people so against any type of rule

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Speaker 5: that they've now turned against Biden himself, which I think

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Speaker 5: is kind of beautiful, but it's also hard to come

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Speaker 5: back from because we have to talk to people what

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Speaker 5: about what America really is and why you should be

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Speaker 5: happy to live here.

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Speaker 2: Tudor they ran against you twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Abortion is that issue now basically resolved in Michigan, such

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Speaker 1: that Biden's going to try to use it as a

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Speaker 1: touchtne alongside of democracy as two of his big selling points.

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Speaker 2: He's going to say Trump is evil, we all know that.

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Speaker 1: But is abortion, in your mind kind of a decided

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Speaker 1: issue now in Michigan. That's not going to motivate a

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Speaker 1: lot of voters like maybe it did in twenty two.

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Speaker 5: It is fully a decided issue because it's in the

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Speaker 5: constitution now, but no, they will con you to use

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Speaker 5: it just yesterday, the Michigan Dems posted on x oh,

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Speaker 5: they went after abortion. The next thing they're going after

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Speaker 5: is IVF. They're going after birth controlled. This is the

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Speaker 5: Republican playbook.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 5: Republicans then, of course retweeted that and they were like,

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Speaker 5: that's ridiculous. Okay, that's not enough. Because they're very skilled

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Speaker 5: with the propaganda. They also go directly to these college campuses,

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Speaker 5: to young women, to suburban moms, and they're like, they're

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Speaker 5: going to take birth control. I mean, as the minute

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Speaker 5: people believe that Republicans want to take birth control away

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Speaker 5: from them, just that's it. It's over. They've figured out

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Speaker 5: that this is a fantastic message for them. They can

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Speaker 5: run on that and it will overshadow crime, it will

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Speaker 5: overshadow economy, it will overshadow the border because at the

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Speaker 5: end of the day, it's very personal and it's fifty

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Speaker 5: percent of your population. And then you've got the men

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Speaker 5: who are going to come alongside those women and say, wait,

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Speaker 5: wait a minute, you're not going to You're not going

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Speaker 5: to affect my wife or my girlfriend or my daughter's

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Speaker 5: ability to get birth control, or to have IBF, or

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Speaker 5: to create a family, or decide not to create a family,

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Speaker 5: and so that message is incredibly powerful. We allowed them

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Speaker 5: to go after us in twenty two, and I say

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Speaker 5: that because you talked when we got on about her

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Speaker 5: COVID policies. We were not strategic enough about getting out

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Speaker 5: who she really is. We did not have the ability

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Speaker 5: to go out over YouTube and all these different apps

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Speaker 5: at least we weren't smart enough at that time to

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Speaker 5: do that. We cannot allow that to happen again. We've

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Speaker 5: got to show them who the Democrats are, and we've

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Speaker 5: got to tell them what they're saying about us is

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Speaker 5: not true. We're not doing that.

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Speaker 2: Tutor Dixon, everybody, Tutor, appreciate you being with us.

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Speaker 1: The Torch of Truth past and still lit every day,

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Speaker 1: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Welcome back in

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging

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Speaker 1: out with us. Okay, we talked about this sum yesterday,

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Speaker 1: but this has gone to just next the levels of

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Speaker 1: utter insanity, and I think we need to kind of

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Speaker 1: contextualize how bonkers the culture of many of these news

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Speaker 1: organizations has become. Buck They pay Rachel Maddow thirty million

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Speaker 1: dollars a year now MSNBC does to do one show

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Speaker 1: a week.

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Speaker 2: She's on every Monday.

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Speaker 1: She opened her show yesterday with a twenty seven minute

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Speaker 1: rant about how unacceptable it was that Ronal McDaniel was

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Speaker 1: pay being hired by NBC. And I want to give

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Speaker 1: you a couple of these, a couple of these cuts.

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Speaker 1: But here is Matt Owl saying Ronal McDaniel on the

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Speaker 1: payroll is inexplicable.

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Speaker 7: Listen, ronal McDaniel will not appear on MSNBC. So it

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Speaker 7: says our boss since Saturday, and it has never been

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Speaker 7: anything other than clearer.

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Speaker 5: And I will also say, you.

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Speaker 7: Know, if you care what I think about this, I

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Speaker 7: will tell you. The fact that miss McDaniel is on

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Speaker 7: the payroll at NBC News, to me, that is inexplicable.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't.

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Speaker 7: You wouldn't hire like a wise guy.

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't hire.

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Speaker 7: A made man like a mobster to work at a

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Speaker 7: DA's office, right, You wouldn't hire a pickpocket as a

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Speaker 7: TSA screener. And so I find the decision to put

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Speaker 7: reverse their decision.

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Speaker 1: This is an awful analogy, first of all, because one

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Speaker 1: of the primary ways that people who work in communications

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Speaker 1: Jensaki just did. But even her analogy there, you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: defense attorneys all the time. That is one of the

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Speaker 1: primary ways that defense attorneys make their become skilled enough

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Speaker 1: is they learn what the prosecutor does, and then they're

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Speaker 1: able to defend better because they know the other side's playbook.

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Speaker 1: So this clutching of pearls that is going on over

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Speaker 1: roon McDaniel is important because really, what they're saying is

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Speaker 1: they're fine with Republicans so long as they all hate Trump.

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Speaker 2: Which is what the arguments are. Well, this is what

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Speaker 2: they've been doing doing really for years. And you know,

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Speaker 2: CNN had a house cleaning even back in twenty seventeen

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Speaker 2: where they got rid of all the pro Trump Republicans

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Speaker 2: that they had on the air before, because they were

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Speaker 2: horrified at in their minds, their role in helping to

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Speaker 2: elevate Trump to the presidency by carrying his rallies. And

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Speaker 2: as I've said many times, they thought it was all

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Speaker 2: just like a carnival, like a side show where they

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Speaker 2: get great ratings and the American people get a laugh,

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Speaker 2: as Hillary is, you know, measuring the drapes in the

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Speaker 2: White House for a second time. And what happened is

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Speaker 2: obviously we know what happened twenty sixteen, Trump wins. The

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Speaker 2: part of this, though we haven't gotten into yet, is

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Speaker 2: there's reporting. And this is what's really amazing to me

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Speaker 2: that NBC News is thinking about withdrawing or you know,

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Speaker 2: canceling or contract already that this kind of pressure publicly

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Speaker 2: from hysterical lunatic news anchors in their employ might result

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Speaker 2: in them bailing on Ron mcdenna, which is just why

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Speaker 2: I say you cannot be This is not overstatement. You

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Speaker 2: cannot be a Republican and take yourself seriously and go

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Speaker 2: work on air at NBC or CBS or CNN, MSNBC.

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Speaker 2: You can't because they won't have you. If they're willing

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Speaker 2: to have you, it's because you're a punching bag, or

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Speaker 2: as they used to call it. You ever heard the

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Speaker 2: phrase clay pigeon about this? That's what they used to say. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: It's a little bit like a jobber in wrestling, right,

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Speaker 2: isn't that the guy that gets thrown around? Right? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're a clay pigeon. You're meant to get blown to

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Speaker 2: smithereens on TV and or your job is to be

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Speaker 2: a fake Republican who says I'm a Republican and let

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Speaker 2: me say, I'm just here to bash Donald Trump. Well,

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Speaker 2: you know, the whole Republican party is unifying behind Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump right now. So if you're a Republican and all

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Speaker 2: you're going to do is bash Trump and say you're

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Speaker 2: going to vote for Democrats, I think there's some confusion

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Speaker 2: about what party you belong to. I also think there's a.

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Speaker 1: Couple of other things that are at play here. One,

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Speaker 1: the media power is collapsing. Can you think of anyone

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Speaker 1: in traditional media at NBC, CBS or ABC that is

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Speaker 1: really trusted by the American public. I can't think of anyone.

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Speaker 1: And you and I are old enough to remember the

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Speaker 1: days when a Dan Rather or a Tom Brokaw or

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Speaker 1: Peter Jennings what they said actually did carry a lot

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Speaker 1: of weight, and they were at least pretending that they

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Speaker 1: were playing.

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Speaker 2: It down the middle. Now was that true? Okay?

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Speaker 1: I think you can make arguments against it, And certainly

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Speaker 1: this comes out of the Walter Cronkite era, but there

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Speaker 1: was sort of this gatekeeper aspect to the media where

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Speaker 1: there was trustworthiness here. Think about NBC doesn't have a

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Speaker 1: single person on its airwaves that I'm aware of fuck

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Speaker 1: that would say, yeah, I'm voting for Trump. I think

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Speaker 1: he's the better choice than Biden.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. How can you be representative or speak to America

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Speaker 2: in a way that you're supposed to connect when you

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Speaker 2: don't have a single in the inn the broader news

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Speaker 2: network ecosystem that you're operating, who understands what what half

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Speaker 2: the country thinks, what was your first Have we talked

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Speaker 2: about this, What was your first ever internship?

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Speaker 1: My first ever internship was on Capitol Hill, kay with

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Speaker 1: h with the Nashville congressman at the time when I

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Speaker 1: was at GW. I went and uh and interned in

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Speaker 1: that Nashville Congressman's all.

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Speaker 2: Because because my my first internship at CBS, right, CBS, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I have the CBS even News with Dan Rather Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And and people would say, oh, Buck, I thought you

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Speaker 2: were a conservative high school Yeah I was. What I didn't know.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that this was the gold standard like

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Speaker 2: CBS Even News with Dan Rather, this is non political.

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Speaker 2: I was like a seventeen year old kid. I didn't

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Speaker 2: know anything. Uh, maybe I just turned eighteen and I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm working there. And I just remembered, even at that

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Speaker 2: young age, being just shocked at sitting in the meetings

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Speaker 2: how like rapidly partisan because they would now I was

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Speaker 2: a little intern. I was literally fetching tapes and coffee. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was going to be very I don't know, I

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Speaker 2: was doing the most low level stuff, but they let

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Speaker 2: me sit in. And I'm not an imbecile, you know.

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Speaker 2: I was a pretty savvy kid, and I would hear them,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, they just all like hate hate Republicans.

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Speaker 2: This is how it was very obvious, very clear, and

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Speaker 2: beyond that, I was amazed. Also, Dan rather not smart,

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Speaker 2: like not a wise, knowledgeable, well read guy at all,

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Speaker 2: spent a lot of time in the makeup chair and

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Speaker 2: a lot of time staring at himself as he read

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Speaker 2: lines written by other people. And I was like, this

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Speaker 2: guy's basically an actor. Yeah, And that was a really

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Speaker 2: formative realization at a very young age. I was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: so this is all a fraud. Basically, this whole thing

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Speaker 2: is a fraud.

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Speaker 1: And I do think it's important to remember that these

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Speaker 1: are public airwaves. And I haven't heard anybody talk about this,

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Speaker 1: but CBS, NBC, ABC, you have an obligation to try

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Speaker 1: and represent the nation on your airwaves because these are

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Speaker 1: publicly owned airwaves. And it's different than on MSNBC or

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Speaker 1: Fox News or CNN, which are cable premium channels that

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Speaker 1: we all pay for. You can still get ABC, CBS

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Speaker 1: and NBC if you go put you know, you go

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Speaker 1: put your antenna up. You can still pull these things

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Speaker 1: out out of the sky. And so I haven't heard

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Speaker 1: have you heard anybody talk about this. This is actually,

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Speaker 1: I think a really interesting angle to attack this. NBC

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Speaker 1: arguably is actually obligated to hire someone like Roni McDaniel

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Speaker 1: because while MSNBC might only want to cover left wing

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Speaker 1: and propaganda for Democrats, as a cable channel, NBC News

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Speaker 1: has to, ostensibly, under the equal time doctrine not be

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Speaker 1: producing a propaganda news broadcast, and so having someone like

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Speaker 1: Roni McDaniel is not only arguably good for business to

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Speaker 1: have as many people that you're speaking to as possible,

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Speaker 1: arguably it's required. And I haven't heard anybody make an

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Speaker 1: argument about that. As everybody is losing their minds on MSNBC.

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Speaker 2: You can't.

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Speaker 1: And in fact, I think we should play this because

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Speaker 1: this is the real world that we're in right now.

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Speaker 2: I'm why don't why don't we tease with this? That's

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Speaker 2: a good idea.

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Speaker 1: We'll play what exactly they want to do and what

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Speaker 8: You don't know what's you don't know right, but you

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Speaker 8: could on the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast

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Speaker 8: Cash and Big.

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, it's not your business, I mean, Franklin,

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Speaker 3: but I m I might do that.

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Speaker 2: I have the option trum saying that maybe he's going

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Speaker 2: to take some of the money that he's got since

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Speaker 2: the bail has been or the bond rather sorry has

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Speaker 2: been reduced from from the huge sum. And now we've

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Speaker 2: got truth social on the horizon. The IPO is real,

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Speaker 2: the h the stock is trading. What happens in the

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Speaker 2: legal side of things for the Trumpster. Let's talk to

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Speaker 2: our friend Andy McCarthy of National Review and Fox News. Andy,

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Speaker 2: great to have you just kind of give us your

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Speaker 2: state of play, if you would, on what happens now.

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Speaker 2: So he's got the money, what are the next steps

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Speaker 2: and what are the chances that he ends up getting

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Speaker 2: out of this thing somehow?

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Speaker 8: Well, I think it's going to take a long time.

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Speaker 6: I mean, the next steps really are the appeal.

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Speaker 8: I mean, he's got ten days to put together this bond.

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Speaker 8: But I don't think that's going to be an issue

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Speaker 8: for him, So that'll be kind of uneventful I think

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Speaker 8: by the time it happens. But what that means is

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Speaker 8: tiss James cannot do anything to enforce the judgment until

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Speaker 8: the appeal is run. I suspect that he will get that.

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Speaker 8: Trump will get a significant reduction in the disgorgement fine

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Speaker 8: on appeal, but that may take over a year. So

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Speaker 8: you know, I don't I think this this chapter, once

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Speaker 8: he posts this bond, this chapter is done other than

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Speaker 8: you know, Democrats talking about that he's been found.

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Speaker 6: By a court to be a fraudulent businessman.

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Speaker 1: All right, so let's go to the Alvin bradcase. Andy,

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Speaker 1: And by the way, I'm gonna go ahead and say

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Speaker 1: your Mets are dead before the first pitch is even

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Speaker 1: thrown tomorrow. Sorry to take a shot at you, and

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Speaker 1: sorry for everybody out of New York who's still a

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Speaker 1: little bit optimistic.

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Speaker 2: But rain down career.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know, there's so few days where

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Speaker 1: Mets fans can be optimistic.

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Speaker 2: I hate to take one away from you like this.

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Speaker 1: April fifteenth, I think, right, isn't it the new trial

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Speaker 1: date where they're going to start with the jury selection,

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Speaker 1: how long does this trial in your mind take? And sorry,

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Speaker 1: the second part of that is, we had you on

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Speaker 1: when this happened a year ago, when we did a

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Speaker 1: big breakdown on how unbelievably legally tenuous this entire theory

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Speaker 1: is of Alvin Bragg.

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Speaker 2: What are the odds that this thing even holds up?

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Speaker 1: You know, even after the trial verdict comes in, as

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Speaker 1: the appellate process plays itself out to kind of assess

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Speaker 1: this case from your knowledge as a former US attorney

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Speaker 1: in New York.

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Speaker 8: So I think that they are estimating Clay that the

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Speaker 8: case is.

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Speaker 6: Going to take four to six weeks.

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Speaker 8: I think that's kind of like the outer margin in

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Speaker 8: my experience of where lawyers can accurately predict how long

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Speaker 8: case it's gonna take. Usually, if it gets outside of

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Speaker 8: six weeks, they're kind of telling you that they have

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Speaker 8: no idea how long.

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Speaker 6: It's going to take.

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Speaker 8: But let's take about their word and figure they can

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Speaker 8: get a jury reasonably quickly.

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, sorry to cut you off, how long do

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Speaker 1: will you think it'll take to seed to jury?

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Speaker 8: You know, I had a terrorism case years ago. It

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Speaker 8: took us three weeks to see the jury. Yeah, and

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Speaker 8: you know, Trump's a lot This is a very different

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Speaker 8: kind of case. But I mean Trump in Manhattan, that's

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Speaker 8: a tough uh, that's a tough.

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Speaker 6: Place to get a fair jury.

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Speaker 8: But assuming they can do that, let's say somewhere between

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Speaker 8: three days and two weeks, right. Oh, and by the way,

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Speaker 8: I should say.

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Speaker 6: They're gonna sit.

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Speaker 8: They're gonna sit four days a week and take off Wednesdays.

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Speaker 6: So that's ye the schedule.

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Speaker 8: So I think the thing is he's got a high

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Speaker 8: chance of getting convicted here, even though it's a nonsense case,

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Speaker 8: because I think the things that make the case very

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Speaker 8: weak may not be as a parent of the jury.

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Speaker 8: Because a lot of legal argument, like, for example, it

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Speaker 8: goes to whether brag has authority to do what he's

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Speaker 8: trying to do here although he's not talking about it,

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Speaker 8: which is to enforce federal campaign finance law under situation

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Speaker 8: under circumstances where the two federal agencies that actually have

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Speaker 8: jurisdiction to do that looked at this and decided not

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Speaker 8: to take any enforcement action against Trump. So you got

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Speaker 8: Brad kind of making up his own federal campaign finance

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Speaker 8: standards as he goes along.

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Speaker 6: That's an argument to me, that plays much better on

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Speaker 6: appeal than it will in front the jury. In front

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Speaker 6: of the jury, you're going to get you.

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Speaker 8: Know, Stormy Daniels and hush money and Trump's bookkeeping in

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Speaker 8: Michael Khan, that's the you know, that's the case. And

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Speaker 8: there's a lot of I think there's a lot of

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Speaker 8: legal arguments that ought to knock this out, like the

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Speaker 8: Statute of Limitations. This really ought to just be a

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Speaker 8: straight one transaction misdemeanor prosecution at best. If it were,

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Speaker 8: the Statute of Limitations would have run in twenty nineteen

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Speaker 8: because it's only a two year statute. He's trying to

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Speaker 8: make it a felony by saying that Trump was trying

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Speaker 8: to conceal a campaign finance violation, even though he doesn't

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Speaker 8: have jurisdiction to do that. And instead of trying it

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Speaker 8: as one felony, like any normal.

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Speaker 6: Prosecutor would do if you were going to do that

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Speaker 6: kind of thing.

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Speaker 8: He's made it thirty four felonies by taking every invoice,

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Speaker 8: every check that was cut, and every bookkeeping entry as

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Speaker 8: a separate four year felony, which is the Justice Department

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Speaker 8: specifically tells prosecutors not to do.

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot wrong with this case, Andy, What

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Speaker 2: do you think happens, assuming that you're seeing this the

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Speaker 2: way that it plays out, what happens if they get

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Speaker 2: a guilty verdict in New York? I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: then we start to get to this really crazy place

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Speaker 2: of Okay, they got a guilty verdict, it's a felony,

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Speaker 2: and then what.

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Speaker 8: Well, it's a good question because I think I've always

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Speaker 8: thought that this was such a BS case that I

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Speaker 8: didn't know how much it really hurt him to get

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Speaker 8: convicted here. And what's happened in the interim, Buck is

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Speaker 8: that New York seems like it's gamed against Trump. So

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Speaker 8: I think it may be even less persuasive to people

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Speaker 8: if he gets convicted here.

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Speaker 2: But I mean in the punishment phase, Andy, not the

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Speaker 2: politics of it, Like, what's the punishment?

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Speaker 8: Well, you know, look, it's it's every count is four years,

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Speaker 8: so statutorily it's over a century, right, but it's not. No,

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Speaker 8: it's nuts, But it's you know, in New York, you

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Speaker 8: got violent crime that doesn't get prosecuted or gets fled

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Speaker 8: down to felonies, and serious criminals walk in the streets.

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Speaker 8: Hard to believe that.

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Speaker 6: Even well, I keep I have.

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Speaker 8: A voice in the back of my head saying saying,

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Speaker 8: did you believe that a judge would impose of, you know,

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Speaker 8: four hundred and fifty four million dollars judgment in the

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Speaker 8: case with no fraud.

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Speaker 2: Well, Andy, this is my point. I know where you're going.

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Speaker 2: It feels like nothing can be hard to believe any

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Speaker 2: more about this process.

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Speaker 6: Now it's fair enough.

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Speaker 8: I mean, this should be no one should do no one,

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Speaker 8: not just Trump. No one should do an hour in prison.

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Speaker 6: For this case. And that's the way it should go.

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Speaker 6: And if you took.

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Speaker 8: Trump's name out of it, and you just said, somebody

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Speaker 8: gets convicted of a falsification of business records crime in

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Speaker 8: New York, of all places, where you can't even get

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Speaker 8: people who do slashings on the subway convicted half the time,

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Speaker 8: then you know he should get It should be it's

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Speaker 8: a nonviolent misdemeanor type crime, first defender. You know that

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Speaker 8: should be No that shouldn't even be prosecuted in New York.

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Speaker 6: But it certainly should be no jail time.

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Speaker 2: So it should be like a community service thing, basically,

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Speaker 2: like five hundred dollars fine in community service.

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Speaker 1: Right, Okay, the other cases it wouldn't even be prosecuted

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Speaker 1: for anyone else.

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Speaker 2: Uh, for the other cases.

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Speaker 1: So let's say they get this case done, they get

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Speaker 1: some sort of verdict in it.

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Speaker 2: Given what you want, you want to keep Andy and

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Speaker 2: go to other case. Andy, can you do it in

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Speaker 2: a couple more minutes? Yeah, sure, your your your mets

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Speaker 2: aren't on right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we can. We

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Speaker 2: can keep them. We'll keep Andy McCarthy here from Nash

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