Speaker 1: Yes me again.
Speaker 2: And hey guys, it's Erica.
Speaker 1: Welcome back. We're back here for friends of Advisory. Good
Speaker 1: Mom's bad Choices. How was your weekend?
Speaker 3: I had a pretty good weekend, pretty exciting to say
Speaker 3: the least.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got it started ear least. I've made some bad.
Speaker 3: Choices, definitely some things I could have went without doing.
Speaker 3: So last night, I on Saturday, I left, you know,
Speaker 3: my bad choices at home and sigging my ass in
Speaker 3: the house.
Speaker 1: I feel you I made some semi bad choices last night.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna talk about this episode, not tonight anymore.
Speaker 4: No, Today, I wanted to talk about five ways to
Speaker 4: know that your man is gay or by undercover gay,
Speaker 4: or cover gay, or by god.
Speaker 1: This is a good topic.
Speaker 4: This is a great topic because I wish I would
Speaker 4: have had these five signs because I have dated my
Speaker 4: share of undercovers.
Speaker 1: Are you like? Are you undercover magnet? I think I am.
Speaker 1: I think I have like I think I have masculine energy.
Speaker 3: Oh that's a good That's a definitely good perspective because
Speaker 3: I feel like I have masculine energy too, and maybe
Speaker 3: that's what people like somewhat attracts that or it could
Speaker 3: be like.
Speaker 1: A come, come all, I'm open and accepting energy. So
Speaker 1: they think that you're like accept accepting. But if they
Speaker 1: felt that way, wouldn't they tell me. I think people
Speaker 1: are so.
Speaker 3: Tainted by social standards that it's it's them that they
Speaker 3: can't admit it.
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily the other person.
Speaker 4: And I think also it depends like how you grew up,
Speaker 4: where you grew up, you know, if honestly it's it's
Speaker 4: a racial thing too, because white to a certain extent,
Speaker 4: I mean, to our a certain extent, there's some white
Speaker 4: guys that are totally out of cover too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's.
Speaker 4: Really not accepted in the black community and coming a
Speaker 4: little bit more.
Speaker 1: But if okay, even okay, that's a good topic because
Speaker 1: even when we read out for.
Speaker 3: Our signs, it's gonna have applied more to black guys,
Speaker 3: because I know white guys that like do some pretty.
Speaker 1: Interesting things that just get like swept under the rug.
Speaker 1: I guess, oh they're white, that's true. You know, me
Speaker 1: like slap each other's asses.
Speaker 3: I have white friends who'd be like talk referring to
Speaker 3: each other's dick size, And I'm like, you, guys.
Speaker 4: Well, I think that they're also just a little more
Speaker 4: comfortable because that type of shit doesn't fly in like
Speaker 4: the black or really the brown community.
Speaker 1: They're like whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. White people get to
Speaker 1: basically murder.
Speaker 4: I think because they've always, like black people, brown people,
Speaker 4: people of color have always had to be tough.
Speaker 3: And so we're less likely to be vulnerable, yeah, or
Speaker 3: show vulnerability.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I think there's that. But anyway, so I
Speaker 4: did a little Google search.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, the little knows everything.
Speaker 4: You know, back when I was dating my first I recover,
Speaker 4: I don't think that this article existed, and this article
Speaker 4: was really interesting because it's.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I was just like, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't really agree with these these five reasons that
Speaker 4: they gave. I mean, I think our five reasons are
Speaker 4: a little better, but I'm just gonna read them off.
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, where are they? I should have been more prepared,
Speaker 1: get your notes together.
Speaker 4: Okay, here they are. Okay, So, how to tell if
Speaker 4: a man is gay? Five ways backed by science? Oh science, yes?
Speaker 4: So Number one is do his pupils dilate when he
Speaker 4: looks at you? And this is because apparently, when you
Speaker 4: are sexually excited by someone, your pupils dilate.
Speaker 1: Everybody's looking ever heard this before? But okay, number two?
Speaker 1: Does he have a wide or short face? Okay, I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 4: Number three, what does his individual facial features tell you?
Speaker 1: What? Rot? I don't. I don't know what that means.
Speaker 1: Number four, does he walk with a sway? That might
Speaker 1: be true.
Speaker 4: That's like the strongest point that for me at least.
Speaker 4: And then number five is he left handed? Or does
Speaker 4: his voice signal.
Speaker 1: Anything to you? I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't know where the left handed thing comes from.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's that like wrisk thing.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really know, but I was reading
Speaker 1: you don't know because you're not a scientist. I guess
Speaker 1: I'm not a sciences science is to be trusted. I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 4: I was like, you know, let me, let's create our
Speaker 4: own because I just wasn't sure I really agreed with
Speaker 4: these ones only because I'm basing these five. We're basing
Speaker 4: these five off personal experience. So if you guys out
Speaker 4: there have had any personal experience in this too, please
Speaker 4: email us. Let us know what your experience has been.
Speaker 4: If we're missing something, we can revisit.
Speaker 1: This topic because this might be this might have to
Speaker 1: be a part too, because there's lots of things to
Speaker 1: be considered.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, email us or you can DM us
Speaker 4: at Good Mom's Underscore Bad Choices and let us know
Speaker 4: what you think. But so let's let's start with with
Speaker 4: number one. Number one is kind of uh, it doesn't necessarily.
Speaker 1: Mean that you're by but he doesn't like to eat pussy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's definitely a sign that you don't like women. No,
Speaker 1: it's I mean it is, but it isn't.
Speaker 3: Either you're below under twenty five or you don't like
Speaker 3: pussy that much. That's the only thing that like, that's
Speaker 3: the only thing that I can think of, or you're
Speaker 3: like super ignorant.
Speaker 1: I I'm not with that. You don't tell them you
Speaker 1: don't like, I'm.
Speaker 3: Not into sex with like any boundaries, And if you
Speaker 3: don't eat pussy, it's not gonna.
Speaker 1: Work, is it.
Speaker 4: Maybe they're just I mean, I know some men are
Speaker 4: just like have been traumatized and true true, So there's that.
Speaker 4: So they're not I don't mean gay men, I just
Speaker 4: mean genine men in general might have like fell upon
Speaker 4: a bad pussy one time one bad Apple and so
Speaker 4: they scared now. But I do have to say that
Speaker 4: in my personal experience with my two different relationships that
Speaker 4: ended up for sure being they were for sure bisexual
Speaker 4: or maybe even fully gay, there was no there was.
Speaker 1: No never never, like maybe like a few times, but
Speaker 1: it was like forced.
Speaker 4: And I was really young too, so like I feel
Speaker 4: like maybe even me that young, I was kind of
Speaker 4: like insecure.
Speaker 1: About that too, Like I was like, maybe it's me,
Speaker 1: is there's something wrong with me down there? But it
Speaker 1: wasn't me. Twas not me. I think, yeah, that might
Speaker 1: be it.
Speaker 3: But the one person that I dated that I suspect
Speaker 3: I had didn't have much of a problem with it,
Speaker 3: So I don't know, but that's definitely an alert.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just think that at a certain age, you
Speaker 1: should like to eat pussy. I mean shit, I like
Speaker 1: pussy to eat it like it's not that bad. Okay,
Speaker 1: you might not like it, but just do it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you think we like to suck dick
Speaker 1: all the time? I mean no, I mean sometimes maybe
Speaker 1: you do. Like if you like it, you're gonna do it.
Speaker 3: If you like someone and you like sex, you are
Speaker 3: going to want to basically plase that person and explore
Speaker 3: that person in all.
Speaker 1: In every capacity. And that's my opinion.
Speaker 3: But I've also I'm at chicks that don't don't believe
Speaker 3: in sucking dick, which is also strange to me, but
Speaker 3: you know, I have to eat it song.
Speaker 4: So so then if they don't and so that they don't,
Speaker 4: then does that mean that they're gay?
Speaker 1: I mean no, no, I mean soule standard. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: just one of our many signs. There are other signs.
Speaker 3: If all of these signs add up, you might need
Speaker 3: to consult with us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so number one and that was number one.
Speaker 1: Number two I would.
Speaker 4: Say, is uh, he just he never comes or he
Speaker 4: has a hard time getting there?
Speaker 1: What about getting hard?
Speaker 4: So, I mean on our last podcast, I talked about
Speaker 4: that that's like an epidemic going around.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if that's because of your gay No,
Speaker 1: you know what it's not.
Speaker 3: Because I asked my gay cousin and he has actually
Speaker 3: had sex.
Speaker 1: With the girls.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, if if you prefer me in, how
Speaker 3: do you perform? Like how does it even cause?
Speaker 1: For men?
Speaker 3: Like you can't deny if you're attracted to something because
Speaker 3: you're jump cast at work?
Speaker 1: And he said, oh no, it's a whole that's warm. Yeah,
Speaker 1: except a warm and moist we like those.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Basically, he said he can't. It doesn't matter. He can't.
Speaker 1: He can't. He keeps saying, Oh no, baby, don't get
Speaker 1: it twisted. I can perform. It's it's the quote. Hmm.
Speaker 3: But coming I would feel like I didn't ask him
Speaker 3: about that. We're gonna have to. We're gonna have to.
Speaker 3: We're definitely gonna have to go back on that conversation
Speaker 3: and report back.
Speaker 1: But yeah, So I recently had a situation with a
Speaker 1: guy that.
Speaker 4: I would never would have thought like off the bat,
Speaker 4: I didn't think like he was gay or by. But
Speaker 4: now that I'm single, like I feel like because I've
Speaker 4: been in a relationship for so long before that I was,
Speaker 4: I would I would attract like bisexual men or gay men,
Speaker 4: And now that I'm single again, like it's happening again.
Speaker 1: It's happening to me again.
Speaker 4: And I don't know for sure, but like he just
Speaker 4: never he never he never could get there and would
Speaker 4: go just keep going and going andgoing.
Speaker 1: And I was like, look, I'm tired, I'm tired, she's tired.
Speaker 1: We need to wrap this up. But yeah, I just
Speaker 1: I don't know, just like.
Speaker 4: In both well, now a third situation. This has been
Speaker 4: like an ongoing thing. It's like and I realized that
Speaker 4: some guy just lasts longer, you know, true.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know if I've experienced that per se.
Speaker 3: Oh and there's the there's also are your number four?
Speaker 1: Number of number four? Yet we're only on number two girls, Oh,
Speaker 1: we're on number two. Okay, maybe what I was going
Speaker 1: to say is going to be number three. What was
Speaker 1: the number three? Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so number three is always asking if he can
Speaker 4: put it in the butt. Yep, that's what I was
Speaker 4: gonna say.
Speaker 1: The butt. There's a lot of attention spent on the booty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when there's like over it's you know, freaky's cool. But yeah,
Speaker 1: there's there's an extent.
Speaker 3: Also, my aunt told me this was her advice because
Speaker 3: years ago she suspected the guy she was dating.
Speaker 1: Maybe she said, you gotta do the finger test. We
Speaker 1: put the finger in the butt and see if they
Speaker 1: owent on and see they're down.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but then I kind of feel like that's biased
Speaker 5: because you know, like that are just morea actually open
Speaker 5: my guys mostly, But yeah, because you know, like technically
Speaker 5: back to our scientific reference, you know, that's what the
Speaker 5: men's g spot is is in the booty. And the
Speaker 5: first time I read that, I was probably like in
Speaker 5: high school and I read in a GQ magazine and
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, well that sounds scientifically backed. But
Speaker 5: also like I have a girlfriend who was suspected recently,
Speaker 5: and she said, not only was he like hanging out
Speaker 5: with his particular friend like often, he also like hung
Speaker 5: out with him and then came back and wanted to
Speaker 5: like eat her booty for a really long time.
Speaker 1: Like what's a long time? Like now, like an hour
Speaker 1: with your friend? Though, I would be like stop, okay,
Speaker 1: enough of that, moving on.
Speaker 4: No, Okay, Well that's a that's a sure that's a
Speaker 4: sure sign that something is something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's kind of a signed. Like if you, like,
Speaker 1: when you have a vagina available, why would you want
Speaker 1: to keep putting it in your booty? I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess it's it's tighter, but there's also so many risks.
Speaker 4: It's a risky I mean, look, I'm not opposed to,
Speaker 4: you know, exploring other sexual areas of.
Speaker 1: Your body different holes, right, but I'm just saying, like
Speaker 1: if you already suspect and then this is also going.
Speaker 4: On, right probably we are not we are not bashing
Speaker 4: anyone's sexual preferences.
Speaker 3: Or you know, I have no room to bash anyone's
Speaker 3: sexual anything.
Speaker 1: We really don't.
Speaker 4: But like you know, like for me, like I I'm
Speaker 4: I've I've explored, I've more exploring. I was actually thinking
Speaker 4: I wanted to take like go to like a sex workshop.
Speaker 1: Oh that'd be fun, or like like a karma.
Speaker 4: Workshop of some sort of tantricks for sure, tantric, something tantric,
Speaker 4: because I yeah, we.
Speaker 1: Should go and talk about it. We should.
Speaker 4: But personally for me though I never that's with me
Speaker 4: in my past three possibly three experiences, there was no
Speaker 4: booty action. There wasn't a lot of booty. Yah, there
Speaker 4: was no booty action. So that that's why I think
Speaker 4: I was a bit confused because had I know, how
Speaker 4: had he even doing that, or maybe I would have
Speaker 4: had a better idea of be like, oh, okay.
Speaker 1: Definitely want to eat the booty for an hour, right.
Speaker 3: Right, or just in general, like having any suspicions and
Speaker 3: thoughts of feeling uncomfortable with you hanging out with a
Speaker 3: particular friend, like women have an insane amount of intuition.
Speaker 3: And if you those thoughts or seeds are being planted.
Speaker 1: Anywhere in your head at any time, I mean likely
Speaker 1: you ain't your mind. Ain't I a into you? You know? No,
Speaker 1: that's for sure.
Speaker 4: Also, I'm kind of like a bitch in this sense
Speaker 4: where it sounds terrible.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'd like to like push guys limits, see.
Speaker 1: Like how fi you gonna let me go? Which is
Speaker 1: probably like wrong, So turn these dudes guys.
Speaker 3: First of all, I am vagina, so I can't turn
Speaker 3: anybody ship, but I am I guess I don't know
Speaker 3: if it's like the masculine energy in myself that it's like, what.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna let me do? But yeah, I'm also
Speaker 1: like super open and I like girls, I like I
Speaker 1: like people, but I'm also open and honest about it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't like.
Speaker 3: I don't think being in this being secretive and in
Speaker 3: denial is cool. First of all, I think you'll be
Speaker 3: stuck in your life if you don't admit to yourself
Speaker 3: like who you are and what you are, because you
Speaker 3: won't be able move forward in any other aspect because
Speaker 3: you're gonna be unhappy because you're.
Speaker 1: Not your pretending.
Speaker 4: So yeah, so the one, the guy that I dated,
Speaker 4: it's almost like he likes the secret, like it brings
Speaker 4: It's like he's kind of.
Speaker 1: Creepy though, but like, oh the creepy one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he kind of likes the mystery of him. So
Speaker 4: like the secret isn't holding him back, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean? Like I know, for sure not ninety nine
Speaker 4: percent of the time it does. But for him, I
Speaker 4: think he likes the mystery because he like he genuinely.
Speaker 1: Just likes attention and the intrigue. Yeah, he likes men
Speaker 1: to be intrigued by him and women.
Speaker 3: I had a guy like that that I dated briefly,
Speaker 3: and I agree, Like he wasn't denying or accepting it.
Speaker 1: I never straightforward asked.
Speaker 3: I mean, we've talked about a lot of things openly,
Speaker 3: which I really respected and appreciated the openness because there
Speaker 3: are so many people in denial.
Speaker 1: But I agree. I think that he totally enjoyed the
Speaker 1: intrigue and the mystery and the attention from men and women,
Speaker 1: and the fact that people.
Speaker 3: Couldn't put their finger on it. So he wasn't trying
Speaker 3: to be one thing or another. He was just himself,
Speaker 3: which I can respect. I like people who are themselves.
Speaker 3: I mean, whether it's off, out of the off the
Speaker 3: wall or out of the box. I'm into people make themselves.
Speaker 3: But I mean, I guess that could be a thing too.
Speaker 3: Motherfucker's like attention.
Speaker 1: Yeah for him it was that. But then girl, they're
Speaker 1: just so much. I was so young when I dated him.
Speaker 4: I was seventeen and he was older than me, so
Speaker 4: I was like easily impressed by him. He had a
Speaker 4: little like change, so he could like, you know, a
Speaker 4: zen stuff.
Speaker 1: But now looking back, I'm just like, you are so fucking.
Speaker 3: Dumb, Like just call you me. Yeah you're yeah, I
Speaker 3: know what I'm like. Oh, but you know what that
Speaker 3: brings me to added one. I honestly do think now
Speaker 3: that I think of it, another guy I dated who
Speaker 3: I now I look back, I'm like, you are probably
Speaker 3: in the closet.
Speaker 1: I think guys like.
Speaker 3: That intentionally target young girls because they're gonna be less
Speaker 3: experienced and less likely to be able to put their
Speaker 3: finger on it that early.
Speaker 1: Because this guy I dated, literally someone knocked on my door.
Speaker 1: No Linda would tell us, Okay, okay, do you know
Speaker 1: you can you you're gonna intentionally gravitate towards someone who
Speaker 1: has less experienced because you know, you can get away
Speaker 1: with shit. Because that guy I met him and I was.
Speaker 3: Like in high school and he knew how old it was,
Speaker 3: and he was well over thirty. And now that we're
Speaker 3: still friends, even though I yeah.
Speaker 1: Whatever, I just I can see it more clearly now.
Speaker 3: But that makes sense that you dated that guy's so young,
Speaker 3: so he thought he could like, you know, put the
Speaker 3: wool over your eyes. And that the other guy I
Speaker 3: feel the same way about is also.
Speaker 1: Dated me when I was extremely young and didn't know
Speaker 1: any better. Yeah, like we like we would.
Speaker 4: We used to like have sex in the dark, like
Speaker 4: like I never had sex in with the light on ever,
Speaker 4: like And now I'm thinking, like, is it because he
Speaker 4: was kind of like not into my body right right,
Speaker 4: like the boobs, Like he didn't want to see any
Speaker 4: of that figure a body.
Speaker 1: He just wanted that wormhole, give me that wormhole. Oh
Speaker 1: my god. That and then on top of it, he also.
Speaker 4: The reason why I know for sure that he is
Speaker 4: bisexual is because of my two best gay friends. They
Speaker 4: he tried to get with both of them in different ways,
Speaker 4: like the.
Speaker 1: Weird one, the weird guy. Yeah, so like my one
Speaker 1: of my best friends.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say his name, but you can figure
Speaker 4: it out if you go on my Instagram or maybe not.
Speaker 1: I don't really post my lot.
Speaker 4: He he used to live in Chicago and my ex
Speaker 4: had went out to Chicago. I feel weird even calling
Speaker 4: him my ex, Like, please refer to that weird guy,
Speaker 4: weird guy, creep, miss WG, the mysterious one he went.
Speaker 4: He was in Chicago and had hit him up like outside,
Speaker 4: like I had no idea he had hit him up,
Speaker 4: and we had we were no longer together, like maybe
Speaker 4: broken up like eight months or so, because yeah, it
Speaker 4: was our sophomore year of college. And uh, he went
Speaker 4: out to Chicago and hit up my friend and was like, hey,
Speaker 4: like let's hang out. And they went and hung out
Speaker 4: and then like they were like hanging out and he's like,
Speaker 4: I want to take you somewhere, and so he took them.
Speaker 4: He took him to a spa and my friend, you know,
Speaker 4: he's like eighteen, Like, oh he's young too, Yeah.
Speaker 1: He's young too. He's like, damn wants to go to
Speaker 1: a spare. Yeah, let's go to this spot.
Speaker 4: I never been in those Like yeah, so he's like yeah,
Speaker 4: but he called me after her was like, dude, like
Speaker 4: we went to the spa and then like we like
Speaker 4: we're wearing rogues and it was just weird. He's like,
Speaker 4: I don't He's like, I'm just telling you this because
Speaker 4: I don't want you to think like I was trying
Speaker 4: to get with your man. He's like, but I was
Speaker 4: just trying to enjoy a free spot, right, And it
Speaker 4: was just got really weird.
Speaker 1: And then my other friends was it like a bathhouse
Speaker 1: spy kind of yeah, yeah, Like.
Speaker 4: So what like I was like, what, straight man, it's
Speaker 4: going to take my game A friend who my game.
Speaker 1: A spa? This doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 4: No, So second second story is my other friend saying
Speaker 4: good he had a few experiences with him and like
Speaker 4: being at dinners because like my ex just kind of
Speaker 4: like knows everybody and so like you just was in
Speaker 4: the same circle as my friend and they were sending
Speaker 4: at dinner together and he kept rubbing his legs.
Speaker 1: Under the table and this is what he told you.
Speaker 1: You weren't there.
Speaker 4: I was not there to the point where like he
Speaker 4: felt really uncomfortable and he was like stop and then stopped.
Speaker 1: And then then my ex was like, don't tell anyone. No,
Speaker 1: they don't tell anyone, is the it gets worse? No,
Speaker 1: then so I don't. I can't reveal too much about
Speaker 1: like what he does for a living, but like I
Speaker 1: mean being in an industry like the artist.
Speaker 4: He's an entertainment Yeah, and so and so was my
Speaker 4: friend and so like they that's how he would entice him.
Speaker 1: You'd be like, let me help you, like like I
Speaker 1: think he can.
Speaker 4: And so one time he was like like, come, come
Speaker 4: to buy the hotel and like we can work on
Speaker 4: blah blah.
Speaker 1: Blah at the hotels. But he's like, my friend is here,
Speaker 1: like we can all work together.
Speaker 4: Okay, So he's like Erica, I went and he was
Speaker 4: like trying to push for me and the other guy
Speaker 4: to have to hook up and make out or do
Speaker 4: whatever we wanted and him watch at the hotel.
Speaker 1: What was he saying?
Speaker 4: Like he was just like, yeah, you guys should you
Speaker 4: guys should kiss, so you guys should like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he definite knew he was dating a child because
Speaker 3: any other.
Speaker 1: Woman would be like what is going on?
Speaker 3: So wait, how long after did he tell you my
Speaker 3: friend or yeah, your friend tell you after this happened.
Speaker 4: So he told me about the the the hand the
Speaker 4: leg rub, like immediately, the hotel thing. I think he
Speaker 4: was like low key embarrassed about it. Yeah, and he
Speaker 4: didn't tell me for like maybe a month.
Speaker 1: He was like he did. He was like, I don't.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to tell you. I felt really like embarrassed.
Speaker 4: Like yeah, he's like I felt embarrassed and I went
Speaker 4: that I like fell for it, right, And I was like,
Speaker 4: that's what he does.
Speaker 1: He's very manipulative.
Speaker 3: Yeah, people like that who have like secret lives can
Speaker 3: I think have developed manipulations. But yeah, like if you
Speaker 3: want to watch two gay guys make out, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 1: More than just being open sexually. No, that's way born, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I can't I can't imagine.
Speaker 4: I know we're gonna piss some people off with this
Speaker 4: because I know some people are just like very sexually fluid,
Speaker 4: and I understand.
Speaker 1: I'm sexually fluid. No, we're not pissing anybody off. But
Speaker 1: only people are going to piss off. It's people who
Speaker 1: are in the closet. The one thing we are is
Speaker 1: sexually fluid. The one thing we're not is obviously or
Speaker 1: not in nobody's closet because we're a yeah, we ain't lying.
Speaker 1: It's the truth. And if you feel some other ways,
Speaker 1: because you might need to come out of that closet
Speaker 1: and come to yourself. Brother.
Speaker 4: Okay, so our next number four on our list or
Speaker 4: almost done. Our next one is being overly homophobic. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's a big one. That's a huge one.
Speaker 3: I mean obviously, like you said again, I mean I
Speaker 3: hate to make this racial, but this is America.
Speaker 1: This is America, and.
Speaker 3: A lot of black men or brown guys are Yeah,
Speaker 3: we've been conditioned like we're not with that ship. So yeah,
Speaker 3: to some points people are like, no, I'm not with that.
Speaker 3: But there's one thing about like you could not really
Speaker 3: want to go to the gay club and need to,
Speaker 3: but there's something about, like I dated this guy, the
Speaker 3: one I dated young and he constantly till this day
Speaker 3: makes like randomly like but you know, I'm not into
Speaker 3: that ship. I'm not into that gay ship. I'm like,
Speaker 3: my nigga, we're talking about noodles.
Speaker 1: No, homo, you know that's right there?
Speaker 4: That like that that that that phrase in general always
Speaker 4: throws me off with guys because like I'd be like
Speaker 4: nobody was even thinking about you just said that, and
Speaker 4: now I'm looking at you like, why are you so sensitive?
Speaker 1: I'm not into that gay shit? Or it's almost or
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna be around all these gay people.
Speaker 3: It's almost like and he's also in the industry, And
Speaker 3: it's like, first of all, if you're in any industry
Speaker 3: in Hollywood, there's some weird gay shit going down, period.
Speaker 3: There's no denying it. So you should almost be immune
Speaker 3: to it or like not at least not offended by it.
Speaker 3: And it's just a constant comment brought up. And I'm like,
Speaker 3: what about it makes you so uncomfortable?
Speaker 4: Because clearly you don't have to watch, you don't have
Speaker 4: to go, you don't have to see, you don't have
Speaker 4: to participate, right, Like why are you so mad?
Speaker 1: Are you mad?
Speaker 4: Is there something within yourself that you're angry with? Are
Speaker 4: you mad that you might have some sort of feeling?
Speaker 3: I mean, like we said, this is like a more
Speaker 3: serious of a topic, and this, you know, this happens
Speaker 3: like more often than we'd like to admit, you know,
Speaker 3: but sometimes people have had like childhood trauma that you
Speaker 3: know results in certain sexual feelings. I mean that's period
Speaker 3: childhood trauma results in all types of feelings as adults.
Speaker 3: But you know, definitely that equates to sexually, so something
Speaker 3: to like if someone's overly overtly homophobic, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 1: Definitely a sign. Yeah, no, I agree. I think.
Speaker 4: The two situations I were I was in, they weren't
Speaker 4: overly homophobic. But I've met people that I've been like
Speaker 4: for example, actually the last situation that I was talking about,
Speaker 4: the one that possibly is throwing me some red flags,
Speaker 4: he was very like like like we were just talking
Speaker 4: about like the movie Moonlight, and I was like, have
Speaker 4: you seen it?
Speaker 1: He's I see that gay shit.
Speaker 4: I was like, and he's an actor And I was like,
Speaker 4: but you're an actor, like you should see it.
Speaker 1: It's it's not a bunch of gay shit. First of all, Like, yes,
Speaker 1: there's this is it's a life, this.
Speaker 4: Is a life, this is life experience. It's like we're learning,
Speaker 4: we're studying their lives. And honestly, if I remember correctly,
Speaker 4: I haven't seen Moonlight maybe in a while, but I
Speaker 4: don't remember there being that many gay scenes.
Speaker 3: There weren't that many, but the ones that I think,
Speaker 3: the one was nothing like rough. It wasn't rough like
Speaker 3: we're watching soft gay porn. But it is like, you
Speaker 3: know what it is. I think they do it like
Speaker 3: they highlighted it when they're teenagers.
Speaker 1: They just like kissed though, no, they like.
Speaker 3: Kind of like they kind of fade out and there's
Speaker 3: obviously like maybe some sucking or jacket noises and it
Speaker 3: gets a lord. First of all, I this is so
Speaker 3: hard to record without.
Speaker 1: Blasting my life and the people in it.
Speaker 3: Like, wow, I went with the guy who I suspect
Speaker 3: and my grandmother.
Speaker 1: Oh and my grandmother is super Christian. She's cool though,
Speaker 1: but it smokes weed. But she was thought it was
Speaker 1: a great movie. He was like, oh, I didn't know
Speaker 1: this is what that movie was about.
Speaker 3: And I was like, well, me either, but like I
Speaker 3: could tell, you know, like he was just completely thrown
Speaker 3: off about it.
Speaker 1: But oh my god.
Speaker 3: He also made a reference to another movie, a comedy movie,
Speaker 3: and he was trying to refer to a actor in
Speaker 3: the movie.
Speaker 1: And in the movie.
Speaker 3: Okay, so it's a movie with Amy Schumer when she's
Speaker 3: like snatched not snatched, train Wreck and she's she's smashing
Speaker 3: the bodybuilder guy.
Speaker 6: And he's like, oh, He's like, oh yeah, that guy
Speaker 6: in the gym was so hot his shoulders, I like
Speaker 6: when you turn around your shoulders, and it was like,
Speaker 6: it's like a brief part of the movie and it's
Speaker 6: funny because then he comes.
Speaker 1: But like he was trying to reference the actor and
Speaker 1: he specifically referenced this part of the.
Speaker 3: Movie, and I was like, wow, that's very Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: amaze you feel I feel, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So I mean, I just I just feel like for
Speaker 4: like this guy, like I was just like, but you're like.
Speaker 1: The thing about it, too, is like he grew up
Speaker 1: around a lot of gay people and not in a
Speaker 1: like I don't know. I just felt like it should
Speaker 1: be more the more you're around and the more you
Speaker 1: should be more. That's why I was more shocked by it.
Speaker 4: And that's why it made me feel like, is there
Speaker 4: something wrong you're feeling like inside of you that you're
Speaker 4: not comfortable with that you can't even watch any movie
Speaker 4: that has any sort of any side. But I get, like,
Speaker 4: I get that most men like they don't want to
Speaker 4: see like men having sex if you're straight, Like I
Speaker 4: get it because sometimes, like honestly, it's even too much
Speaker 4: for me me too.
Speaker 1: I know that movie I was I could. I was
Speaker 1: a little honestly.
Speaker 4: Like personally, like, I don't enjoy going to the gay club.
Speaker 4: I don't have any I have many gay friends. I
Speaker 4: love my gay friends. It's just not I just don't
Speaker 4: enjoy it. It's not for me. It's not exciting for me.
Speaker 3: No, it used to be, and I lived in Atlanta
Speaker 3: it was funner. But here I'm not a big fan
Speaker 3: of the gay club.
Speaker 1: For me period. It's just never been my cup of tea.
Speaker 1: So I get it.
Speaker 4: But like, I just feel like sometimes when you're just
Speaker 4: so like anti, it just kind of tells me something
Speaker 4: about you. And yeah, anyway, so our last our last
Speaker 4: sign is body language that can be really confusing. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, and that's usually why I think, like most
Speaker 4: of time, be like, oh yeah he gay, he's there,
Speaker 4: and you can.
Speaker 1: Be wrong, yes, thereferent times I've been. That's why this
Speaker 1: is a tricky one. It's a dangerous one. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is a dangerous one because I mean, essentially, this is
Speaker 1: what we do all the time. We judge, even if
Speaker 1: we don't want to be judgmental people.
Speaker 3: Human nature is we are judging each other, like on appearance,
Speaker 3: on talking, all types of things and Yeah, sometimes people
Speaker 3: can talk gay and that doesn't mean shit, but it
Speaker 3: could mean shit if all the like, if all four
Speaker 3: of these topics line up, plus they have very feminine
Speaker 3: body liningugs, this is like a Soreanta five situation.
Speaker 1: So don't go home because you had found one and
Speaker 1: there like you got on the right. But if there's
Speaker 1: like three or four of the five, you might need
Speaker 1: to really replace some things in your.
Speaker 3: Head because certain talking, you know, like I'm going to
Speaker 3: the clubs.
Speaker 1: Wait, what was that?
Speaker 4: Mike, my gay cousin always puts that impersonations really bad.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not a good impersonator, but you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, like gay talk and like that risk, like
Speaker 1: you talk about the pinky oh and like the switch
Speaker 1: of the hips.
Speaker 4: Well the sway that was the one on the website.
Speaker 4: I had found the one thing that we agree with.
Speaker 1: Like there's a guy that.
Speaker 4: I know who's not openly gay, and when he gets
Speaker 4: around the girls, he's a different person, gets girlier.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll be using all types of oh girl, right.
Speaker 4: Oh honey, or it just like he just more like
Speaker 4: comfortable loose.
Speaker 3: But you know it also it is I notice if
Speaker 3: you do have somebody who.
Speaker 1: Is a little uh has a little sugar in that tank.
Speaker 3: If you start to get them drunk or they start
Speaker 3: to drink and they get more comfortable, like maybe they're.
Speaker 1: Not as aware of it.
Speaker 3: I've noticed people who I suspect once they start drinking,
Speaker 3: it's more clear because they're a little bit looser and
Speaker 3: a little bit more hate.
Speaker 1: Girl, And then you can tell yeah.
Speaker 4: But then there's been like you were telling me the
Speaker 4: story of the two guys, like the one that was
Speaker 4: raised by women versus the guy who grew up in
Speaker 4: Boston and the one that raised by women and had
Speaker 4: the high.
Speaker 3: Voice, and he even a minute, he's like, when I
Speaker 3: get really excited, my voice gets even higher.
Speaker 1: Poor baby. He was giggling like like literally just like that.
Speaker 1: And he was married with kids.
Speaker 3: And then the Boston guy who was like super into sports,
Speaker 3: like these stereotypical things that we associate with masculinity, was
Speaker 3: actually gay. And he even said he's been in situations
Speaker 3: where people are not assuming and don't know and make
Speaker 3: some really derogatory terms, and then you know, he wants
Speaker 3: to beat somebody's ass because they're not aware because he's
Speaker 3: talking like a what we think is like a manly
Speaker 3: talk and he's done manly things and his appearance looks
Speaker 3: very manly. But the truth is like gay comes in
Speaker 3: all shapes and sizes and talks and looks.
Speaker 1: And you know, so there's there's really no guarantee. I know,
Speaker 1: there really isn't.
Speaker 4: I mean, I've definitely been wrong before just based off
Speaker 4: of body language, so I I mean, I maybe I'm
Speaker 4: not wrong. Maybe I feel like I have pretty good gatar.
Speaker 4: A lot of times I feel like they just haven't.
Speaker 4: They just don't know.
Speaker 1: But sometimes they don't know.
Speaker 3: And then also, you know, I'm also I'm really, I
Speaker 3: guess not manipulative. But there's something about me where I
Speaker 3: feel like I've met strangers and they.
Speaker 1: Get so comfortable so quick they tell me things that
Speaker 1: I don't even want to know, and I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: why are you opening up too quickly? But that's another
Speaker 1: perk because I think.
Speaker 3: If you can make someone feel really comfortable with you
Speaker 3: and like you're non judgmental, I mean, this is the
Speaker 3: way to be in life in general.
Speaker 1: But people will start to be more honest than you know.
Speaker 3: I even go so far as like, I mean like
Speaker 3: if you like, if you've ever like experimented I mean,
Speaker 3: it's so normal to be curious. I've experimented with girls,
Speaker 3: like I always wanted to know because that's little girls
Speaker 3: like you like kiss your other girlfriends and stuff like
Speaker 3: that's a part of it. But like for men, we
Speaker 3: don't talk about it doesn't mean it doesn't happen or
Speaker 3: doesn't exist. But I always want to ask my ex boyfriends, like, so,
Speaker 3: you've never ever, even when you're a kid, just been
Speaker 3: curious and than anything, I'm like, not saying you're gay,
Speaker 3: but like you just I mean, how do you know
Speaker 3: you're not gay? If you never like even attempted to
Speaker 3: be curious about it?
Speaker 1: Is that then by curious? Okay, this is my four
Speaker 1: Is that like? Bye? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Because I think like a lot of times for men,
Speaker 4: they definitely they ever are curious. There's no by curious,
Speaker 4: it's like you gay or you For women, we can
Speaker 4: be like a parent socially, we can we can we're
Speaker 4: allowed to explore that.
Speaker 1: Like if a boy like, after three times, it's not
Speaker 1: by curious no more? You know and you like it? Okay,
Speaker 1: th three times too? Really for a guy, I'm hate
Speaker 1: to say, it's like one or two times if you
Speaker 1: explored in curiosity twice and you went a third round.
Speaker 1: It's because you liked it.
Speaker 3: I mean, I yeah, there's there's a limit to the curiosity.
Speaker 3: You can't be by curious for a year straight. No, No,
Speaker 3: get you're by.
Speaker 4: But it's possible to be by bisexual at one point
Speaker 4: and then totally not bisexual anymore.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: I mean, even me, I've had like I've only had
Speaker 3: I mean, minus my child's father, I've literally only been
Speaker 3: in relationships with women, which I think is really strange. Really,
Speaker 3: I didn't know that only like long term living relationships.
Speaker 1: But do I think I'm gonna end up with a chick? No,
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: Well, at one point I thought that I could be
Speaker 3: lesbian for the rest of my life, and then I
Speaker 3: grew up and realized quickly, like I need fleshy, real penis.
Speaker 1: But I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe I think with women and women, like we're on
Speaker 3: the same wavelength where it's like easier to be more comfortable,
Speaker 3: easier to settle down, Like it's just.
Speaker 1: An easier thing for me. I guess it was easier
Speaker 1: or maybe I am a lesbian shit, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's just me.
Speaker 3: But I wouldn't go so far to say I'm no
Speaker 3: longer bisexual, right cause I still can see a girl.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, she's cute. I taped that.
Speaker 3: But it doesn't mean I want to be in a
Speaker 3: relationship with you. No, But I would never say like
Speaker 3: I don't like women anymore. That doesn't fade away like
Speaker 3: I mean, they'd be less intrigued to like pounce or
Speaker 3: like approach them. I'm not gonna go like trying to
Speaker 3: holler at no chick. But I could be like, the
Speaker 3: girl looks good, and I'm not gonna tell anybody like.
Speaker 1: Oh, I used to be bisexual, but now I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm saved again, saved, which I also totally don't believe it.
Speaker 3: Of course, you cannot pray the gay out of you,
Speaker 3: and you're gonna You're gonna hurt yourself doing that more
Speaker 3: than anybody.
Speaker 4: So my last question for you is, and I have
Speaker 4: a lot of opinions on this, which.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean a lot of people disagree, a
Speaker 1: lot of people agree.
Speaker 4: But do you think people are born gay?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think I was born gay, I mean not gay.
Speaker 4: But because do you think that like situations can make
Speaker 4: you gay or were you always had that in you.
Speaker 1: I think it goes both ways.
Speaker 3: I think for some people, unfortunately, like we discussed, sometimes
Speaker 3: things happen to them in childhood that traumatize them to
Speaker 3: the point where they don't want to deal with the
Speaker 3: same sex being So I was a hardcore lesbian for
Speaker 3: like five years straight. I'll say that almost every single
Speaker 3: girl I messed with, all of maybe two, had never
Speaker 3: had any sexual trauma. Maybe one had never been molested,
Speaker 3: had never been touched, and was just gay.
Speaker 1: But for the most part, a lot of women had
Speaker 1: had shit. And that's why I mean, I mean, this
Speaker 1: is so stereotypical but true. Like strippers, sometimes when shit
Speaker 1: happened to as a child, it develops differently. But some
Speaker 1: people are born gay. Like I got a cousin and
Speaker 1: he's been My mom was like he's been gay since
Speaker 1: he was born. He was wearing my shoes when he
Speaker 1: was three, you know. And even for me, like I
Speaker 1: remember having a crush on my front at five years old.
Speaker 1: I remember like I.
Speaker 3: Couldn't wait to go over there so we could play house.
Speaker 3: And because she was a tomboy or she's tom boy
Speaker 3: now and she's a lesbian, but you know, like, I
Speaker 3: will deny that. That's how I felt as a child,
Speaker 3: and even for me, even at like twelve or thirteen,
Speaker 3: I was like I am a lesbian.
Speaker 1: I was a self per playing lesbian. I wasn't afraid.
Speaker 1: But unfortunately we don't really live in a society we're
Speaker 1: as a young age, it's accepted to say those type
Speaker 1: of things, you know, So I think it goes both ways.
Speaker 1: What do you think? I agree? I agree, I think
Speaker 1: that you're born gay?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I don't think why would why would someone
Speaker 4: want to take the harder route?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Why would you want to be make your life harder
Speaker 1: unless you absolutely cannot help that that's what you're attracting,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: Why would? I mean?
Speaker 4: I do think obviously, like you know, situations in your
Speaker 4: in your childhood can help, can push you towards, push
Speaker 4: you towards, you know, whatever, your sexual preferences at some point.
Speaker 4: But I still do I don't have a definitive answer
Speaker 4: for like, maybe you guys, if you guys have experience
Speaker 4: with this, If you guys are you know, have been,
Speaker 4: are gay, or are bisexual, or are a victim of abuse?
Speaker 4: My question is, like we're when you were a child,
Speaker 4: because you're a child. When I was a kid, like
Speaker 4: I knew I liked boys, I liked boys, and my
Speaker 4: first kiss was a girl and I remember really liking
Speaker 4: it for real. And but I've always gravitated towards men,
Speaker 4: towards men. But I do like women too, But I couldn't.
Speaker 4: I don't not enough to like stort or even date.
Speaker 4: It's more curiosity, That's why I don't know, Like it's
Speaker 4: not curiosity. I don't even know if I consider myself bisexual.
Speaker 4: Maybe I could, but not. Maybe I'm like by curious
Speaker 4: sexual girl.
Speaker 1: Never did it more than three times? No comment, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just really would.
Speaker 4: I'm just curious as to how people feel about Like
Speaker 4: what if you're sexually abused as a child before you
Speaker 4: really get the opportunity to like even really fully make
Speaker 4: that decision, right, Like can that make you gay? Can
Speaker 4: that make you straight?
Speaker 1: Like? How does that? I don't know if there's really
Speaker 1: an answer there is, because everybody's different.
Speaker 3: Everybody has different experiences and their input takes them differently,
Speaker 3: Like me and you could probably have had the identical
Speaker 3: situations as children that happen, like you know, something maybe
Speaker 3: traumatizing happen, and you could go one completely other way,
Speaker 3: and I can go completely this way. Just like help people,
Speaker 3: you know, parents have like alcoholism or drug abuse issues.
Speaker 1: Either you have a kid that goes down the same road,
Speaker 1: or you'll have a kid that absolutely will not drink
Speaker 1: or do drugs because they're so traumatized by it. So
Speaker 1: it's just like a personal, you know, case to case
Speaker 1: baces I feel like, But I think overall.
Speaker 4: The moral of this podcast episode is for me, like
Speaker 4: I just want people to be accepting of who they are,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like I wish that like
Speaker 4: these men that I dated could have felt comfortable enough
Speaker 4: to be open, be open with me, because there are
Speaker 4: men that are totally they don't care. It's totally fine
Speaker 4: with them.
Speaker 1: Obviously, for women it's different. Oh you mean, oh for
Speaker 1: the women dating guys. Yeah, true, Yeah, And.
Speaker 4: Just like be open and like, I know that's a lot.
Speaker 4: It sounds it's so much easier so than done. It
Speaker 4: really is, especially in the society we live in, especially
Speaker 4: if you're a black man or brown even white. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's you know, it's difficult, it's difficult.
Speaker 3: But the guy that I know suspect I knew, and
Speaker 3: I liked it.
Speaker 4: But there's so many women that don't. Yeah, you liked it,
Speaker 4: but some women might not. If I know women that would.
Speaker 1: Never do it.
Speaker 4: Personally, I don't really want to date a man who's bisexual.
Speaker 1: I don't want to.
Speaker 3: I mean, but I also in that experience, I realized
Speaker 3: and learned you'd be surprised when you like someone and
Speaker 3: someone's honest with you what.
Speaker 4: But you'd be willing to do what you're willing to
Speaker 4: do yet because the truth is, for me, like people
Speaker 4: who are themselves weird or indifferent or mysterious, or when
Speaker 4: you're yourself.
Speaker 3: Something about that, it's attractive when you don't give a fuck,
Speaker 3: because I'm the same way, and you know what, it
Speaker 3: also for me, a lot of it I realized was
Speaker 3: now it was nice to date someone who could accept me.
Speaker 3: And because you guys your own shit and you're not,
Speaker 3: you know, like the perfect standard, it was easy for
Speaker 3: me to be completely myself too, because I knew that
Speaker 3: we could accept each other in all of our weirdness.
Speaker 1: Right, I mean, I guess you're right.
Speaker 4: I guess maybe I can't make that statement that I
Speaker 4: wouldn't or I couldn't it's maybe the fact that my
Speaker 4: choice was taken from me right that I didn't like,
Speaker 4: except I don't.
Speaker 1: Like give me the option. At least, don't be out
Speaker 1: here embarrassing me in front of my homeboys.
Speaker 3: Trying to get a freak show on the low right, like,
Speaker 3: of all the people to choose from you, like.
Speaker 1: Friends, mess that's messy. I don't want any messy gays. Okay,
Speaker 1: not as friends, not as lovers, none of that. Ship.
Speaker 1: I don't want any messy gays because you know, the
Speaker 1: gays tend to be a little messy, not a little,
Speaker 1: a lot the messy, honey, they messy. This topic is
Speaker 1: real deep. We're gonna smoke after this, I know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we didn't smoke this time because I got this episode.
Speaker 4: Mila got a little too high at the top and
Speaker 4: she was like losing trains of thoughts. Same side, there
Speaker 4: was positives and shit, I'm gonna be sober.
Speaker 1: Let's slightly separate now.
Speaker 4: Actually anyway, so I guess that concludes this episode. I
Speaker 4: just I just want us to like end on a
Speaker 4: positive note that we accept all, we accept all, we
Speaker 4: love all, We even love you, you closeted men.
Speaker 3: That are, and we just want you to come to
Speaker 3: terms with them. We want you to be honest with
Speaker 3: yourself and others. It's gonna make your life a much
Speaker 3: better place. And you'd be surprised that people are willing
Speaker 3: to love you and accept you the more you're willing
Speaker 3: to love and accept yourself. Yes, it's very true, and
Speaker 3: this is why we're here, because people are gonna have
Speaker 3: a hard time loving and accepting us with all the
Speaker 3: topics we talk about.
Speaker 1: But hey, this is it, This is it.
Speaker 4: Look I'm trying to I'm still learning to love and
Speaker 4: accept myself all right, So every day struggle.
Speaker 1: But anyway, thanks for tuning in, guys, cut you later.
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