WEBVTT - Get Out There & Do It (w/ J. Anthony Brown) 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:06.200 Good morning, good afternoon, good evening. Wherever you are, you're 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:09.000 listening to the Vitamin D Podcast when we shine no 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:12.280 matter the time. I'm your host, Dawn Day, and I'm 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:15.880 here to get you excited about your life. You're ready 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:18.360 for Adosa Vitamin Day. I got a question for you. 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:21.560 What do you do when you feel something so deeply 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:24.279 in your soul right and it just screams out to you? 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:27.400 But you've never done it before, so therefore you don't 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:29.560 have a blueprint or do you know how to do it? 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:34.320 And I hear it again and again from people, family, friends, 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:38.480 co workers, about this invisible hand that feels like it's 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:41.240 holding us back. And you know, some call it fear 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:44.640 from our spirits calling, which I like to call purpose. 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:47.599 And then it's happened in my life too. I think 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:49.800 about it when I had to write my first sketch. 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:53.800 Now I'll study improv over at the Groundlings Theater that's 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:57.560 in Los Angeles, and some classmates of mine we started 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:00.680 our own improv sketch group we called s mc forest 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:03.400 and you can follow us on all social media at 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:07.039 Cosmic Forest Comedy. And it came up to me it 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:08.960 was my turn to write the sketch and I had 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:12.160 never done it before, and I can feel everything just 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:14.800 locking up and I couldn't think. It was almost like 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:18.360 I was giving birth. And what I came to realize 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:22.120 is that the smartest person in the room isn't always 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:26.200 the one that knows everything. Sometimes the smartest person in 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:29.240 the room is the one that uses their resources. So 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:32.960 I had to ask some friends, and I appreciate Karina, 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:37.920 Danielle Camerie, o Lydia, everybody. And this not only goes 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:40.759 for things that you've never done before, but it also 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:44.400 goes for things that you're currently doing, because that's when 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:48.200 we call it self sabotaging, like the procrastination. You know, 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:50.920 it's that feeling like you want to quit, and you'll 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:54.120 just say, Okay, I did enough, something to come on TV, 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:57.280 pop up on your phone, somebody's gonna try to call you. Hey, 0:01:57.360 --> 0:02:00.120 you're gonna even have to pay your bills. Okay, you 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:02.520 still need to pay your bills. But what I'm saying 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:06.360 is is that stop making excuses. And you know, sometimes 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:09.120 you're gonna have to break. In order to break through, 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:14.400 you ask God to help you grow and it started raining. See, 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.720 we sometimes have to push through ourselves in order to 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:21.320 get to ourselves. With all that being said, I have 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:24.560 a special treat for y'all. I sat down with comedy 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:28.760 legend Jay Anthony Brown, the one who taught one of 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:31.880 the kings of comedy comedy about his life for me 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:33.760 and the host of the time during the morning show 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:36.239 to going over to the Steve Harvey Morning Show to 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:38.840 kick and cancer with a son Don't Shine, and we 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:42.120 actually talked about him and Steve Harvey on the road together. 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:46.520 Also how to overcome the voice inside that tells you 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:50.520 you can't when you can't take a lesson, get your 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:58.600 righty right with me and get excited about how you 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:03.600 doing good. I'm ready, let's do it. We're already going. 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:08.880 We're talking. Are we talking? All right? Whatever? Everybody Brown, 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:11.000 We should have checked out my radio show where I 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.720 count down the top ten jams in the country each 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:17.480 and every week on I Heart Radio and check me 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:21.120 out on Mondays and Fridays on the Steve Harvey Radio Show. 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:23.839 And this message has been brought to you by Jay 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:31.119 Anthony Brown dot com. What's better sell yourself? Tell these 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:33.880 people that you know this, this is the perfect time 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:38.920 to start your own business. It's the perfect time for everything. 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:42.200 That's the beginning. This is happening now. All that stuff 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:45.920 you could do before, you could bake pies and cookies 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:48.360 and stuff you did as a hobby. You can eat 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:52.240 off of that. Don't let don't let the shutdown shut 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:58.640 you down. Okay, write the are you gonna don't? Don't 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:01.640 let the shutdown shut Don't let the shut down shut 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:05.040 you down. Don't let the shut down shut you down. 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:10.760 Turn that round upside down during that done outside down, 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:15.760 don't look like a clowhn. Don't let the sun down 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:23.000 shut you down. Don't let the shut down shut you down. 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:32.320 You do right, You'll be wrong. Down, don't move down, 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:36.640 shut you down? What you got? What's happening? First of all, 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:39.960 First of all, let me just say that this is 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:44.120 this is a pleasure. No seriously, I know I said 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:46.760 it before, but like I'm talking to a legend right now, 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:51.000 so people be like, down. You hear that word a lot, like, man, 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:54.920 you're legend. I don't feel legendistic. I don't know what 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:57.520 do you mean. Okay, first of all, let's just go here. 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:00.119 We were just on the phone, just the other guy, 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:03.880 and you're like, don you know, Steve Harvey. You know 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:06.680 he had these shows and how amazing he is. But 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:10.279 then I'm thinking back when I first started working as 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:12.680 the digital content producer for the Steve Harvey Morning Show, 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:17.440 and I was in Punta ConA in the cafeteria talking 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:20.760 to Roderick Jr. And he proceeds to tell me that 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:28.880 his father, Roderick Harvey Senior, got inspired from comedy from 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:31.880 you and Richard Pryor. So when you sit here and 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:35.000 tell me that you're not a legend, or maybe you 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:40.640 can't fathom to imagine it, I just look at you sideways. Okay, Okay, Well, 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:43.360 you know you forget when you do this, or when 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:47.000 you start doing this, that how many people you've touched 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:50.719 her some somewhat inspired. Everybody's inspired somebody somebody. A lot 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:52.880 of people say, man, I used to watch you and 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:55.000 I got X y Z. So when you're doing it, 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.200 you don't think about it like that. And I guess 0:05:57.200 --> 0:06:00.360 it's because I'm still doing it. I'm still out any 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:03.120 game at this age. I've been blessed. I came to 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:06.440 l A a long time ago. I've never been without 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:09.200 a job. That's a blessing from the man upstairs. And 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:11.880 you're very talented at that too. You do more than 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:15.200 just radio. I can sing, I can write, you know, 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:19.120 I can dance. You clothes, what's my book? I don't 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:22.240 have my Oh, I don't have my books. And I 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:25.000 missed the whole way you sing, jay, have you been on? 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:29.599 You were just so don't let let down? Get down. 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:33.480 We're just okay in case. Okay, I hear you, I 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:38.280 hear you, okay down, get you down. So you said 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:39.800 you came out to l A and you kept working. 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:43.320 But where are you from? Game? From Columbia, South Carolina. 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:45.240 I came out of here. I don't already even do 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:48.279 a comedy. By the time I decided to come to 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:52.000 l A, I've been doing comedy probably about ten years. 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:55.760 So oh, ten years before coming to l A. Ten 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:58.640 years before coming to that, I was I was considered 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:02.080 what they call a road comic. A road comic is 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:06.360 a comedian who works quote unquote on the road. So 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:10.040 from working on the road, I was able to you know, sustain, 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:13.320 uh to eat. I didn't have to worry about, you know, 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:16.520 getting a job when I came out here. Uh, luckily 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:18.880 I got a job. But I was always out here. 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:21.840 And then I go to Texas or Chicago or whatever 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:24.240 to work. So I was blessed by that. And then 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:28.280 luckily I got a job as a writer and was that. Yeah, 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:30.280 I got a job writing on the our senior Hall 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:34.600 show What Foo Foo Is? Wait a minute, how does 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:36.680 that happen? You just said it like, oh, it was nothing. 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.880 I mean it was meant to happen. The first day, 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:42.280 first of all, I drove to l A. I drove 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:48.240 to l A in a powdered blue Escort. Took me, Yeah, 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:51.040 the little blue Escort, and I had this thing built 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:53.440 on the back so you know how you're back in 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:55.920 the because we would pull a little cloth thing down 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:58.160 and it would you couldn't see what you have. So 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:00.720 I had a wooden piece made show that all my 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:03.320 belongings could be in there. When they look in the car, 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:05.680 they couldn't see anything. So I had a pot of 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.920 brand new, brand new pot of blue Escort. I drove 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:11.600 to l A. And my joke, my my goal was 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:15.040 to get on Johnny Carson or anything. And it's amazing 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:18.200 how it has turned. Uh that comics back in the day, 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:21.440 in order to be quote unquote successful, you had to 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:24.360 get on one of those shows, either or senyor Hall, 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:28.120 Johnny Carson or any of those late night shows, if 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:30.240 you you know, that was that was the next step. 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.000 And so I come out of here. Man. The next day, 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:35.360 I go over to Paramount Studios and out with my 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:38.600 friend who was a writer on the our Cenio Hall Show, 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:42.240 and we're just hanging out. He's got two writers, both 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:44.360 of them white. I know both of them. And we're 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:47.199 sitting there and they're typing up the monologue and form 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:49.880 them typing the monolog I'm yelling out of stuff. And 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:51.719 he says, see you can do this, and said do 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:53.720 what you can be a writer. Just nothing, man. We 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.600 type these jokes and then we go home. It's just 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:59.319 that simple. He said, why don't you send our cineos 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:03.160 some jokes. Here's the keep part up until this day. 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:06.160 I can't type, and I'm a horrible speller. But I 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:09.079 don't figure it out that most people let what they 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.800 can't do stop them from what they want to do. 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:14.240 Come you, they always they always put it, well, I 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:16.319 can't do this, so I'm not gonna be able to. 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:19.400 You know, I don't have a big kitchen, so I 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:21.640 can't cook pies, or I don't have this, so I 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.080 didn't let that stop me. Now this was before the internet, 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:26.720 this is before any of this stuff. So all I 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:29.200 said to myself was, if I get somebody to type 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:31.680 up my jokes, I'll send him into our sending at 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:34.199 home and see what happens. So I typed up with 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:37.320 two jokes, took them to Pall. Because this is before 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:41.559 facts machines. Facts machine didn't exist. When you know, you 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:44.800 went around, it was the day when there was no facts. 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:47.040 So I meant you had to call the jokes into. 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:49.360 The lady who was typing. It was an elderly lady, 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:51.800 so sometimes she didn't get the joke that I was saying, 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:53.640 and like it didn't make sense because I didn't see 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:56.679 it until I picked it up, you know. So I 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.439 had a type of these jokes, and so I sent 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:01.120 him in the get him to Pall, I take him 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:02.800 over to the palm allins. I'm gonna give it to 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:05.760 her Senio. So I'm on the road and he called 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:08.120 me on his sister night, Arsenio is gonna do your joke? 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:13.000 Oh really? Yeah? He put it into mindlog. So I'm 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:15.960 sitting in and I'm sitting in the hotel in Kentucky somewhere, 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:18.000 and I see our senior will do the joke, and 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:20.040 the joke I wrote, it might not be funny. Uh 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:24.640 don't go that. That that the joke that got you 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:29.559 a job. So what was the joke? The joke was 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:36.000 LaToya Jackison did a spread eagle on a motorcycle. This 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:39.439 was in Playboy magazine and she said she did it 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:43.680 to enhance her career. And our senior Hall said, well, 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:45.040 I mean, I ain't here about thirty years and I 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:47.160 like to enhance my career too. But you don't see me. 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:50.320 But ask naked on Harley Davidson, whom that was the joke. 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:54.280 It killed, It destroyed the room. They called me in 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:56.800 and said, Arsenio wants to meet you the next day 0:10:57.520 --> 0:10:59.520 when you come back to l A. So I said, 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:02.880 my god, I can't tank. I want to go. So 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:06.040 I started, uh got We started working with this lady 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:08.559 who would type up my jokes. Because back then the 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:12.559 only news outlet you had was USA Today. USA Today 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:14.920 came out at six o'clock in the morning. I could 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:16.640 look in the paper and get my six o'clock in 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.120 the morning jokes. Get the lady to type up me 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:22.520 always turned in three pages of jokes. Now maybe six 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.400 or seven jokes on each page called the lady up 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:27.719 if she messed it up. Boom, Now I turn my 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:30.640 jokes in. Now I'm free to work with whoever. And 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:32.400 now you gots a whole life. So right, there was 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:35.680 the start of it. All that. All right, ladies and gentlemen, 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:39.760 welcome to the vitamin here what you get excited about 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:42.600 your life? Here, I'm here to give you adults inspiration. 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:47.000 And I am talking right now to the incomparable Mr 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:54.120 j Anthony Brown. What brother said he started his career 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:57.719 are sitting on hall. But I'm interested to know who 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:01.280 is Jay? Before, before the coming before this was a tailor. 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.480 I was a tailor. I made clothes and I made 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:12.319 I went to school in Denmark, Germany, South Carolina. You 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:17.160 know I always throw that out there that people this 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:26.760 is a world traveler. Sprugm z Deutsch VISs loule smith. Dude. Obviously, yeah, 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:34.280 did ena didn't I still be on a hushtanding nine 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:38.880 pushtand year and see that's German chatter. I wasn't saying anything, 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:40.360 and so you know what, that's what I thought. But 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:44.880 I was like, wait a minute that's what they called dialout. 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:48.000 So anyway, I was a tailor, but I was always 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:51.440 fascinated with comedy, like I just love coming. Who did 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:54.160 you look out to when you were coming up? Oh 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:57.160 my god, some of the names. Have you never heard of? Wildman, 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:04.760 Steve Pigmate, Mark Um, Flip will Send one which Wilson 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:09.560 and Bill Cosby was doing his albums at that time. 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:12.880 Richard Pryde did not exist. So Bill Cosby was doing 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:15.520 his albums and were in Red Fox. Red Fox was 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:18.320 really big because you had to buy the Red Fox 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:21.559 albums and you would or you couldn't play them. You know, 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:24.640 you're playing real low. I mean, it wasn't like, don't 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:28.280 play that in here. And and Rudy Raymore. Those were 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:32.280 the people that you saw on the quote unquote chipland circuit. 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.520 You could hear their records or on certain radio stations, 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:42.560 and those were the people that I was influenced by. That. Yeah, 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:44.280 So did you get a chance to meet any of 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:48.520 your people that inspired you? I met Bill Cosby, I 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:52.959 met Um, Rudy Raymore, I met Richard Pryan. I met 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:58.319 him twice, old young Richard. Richard Pryde was at the 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:02.280 height at the hot and he's coming down the steps 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:04.600 and I asked him to take a picture. I mean twice, 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:06.880 two times I made Richard Pryor, and each time I 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:10.599 took a picture it didn't come up. I don't have 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:12.920 a picture with Richard Pride, but I saw him twice, 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:16.400 a man him. I touched this garment, shook his hand. 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:20.120 So out of all of them, who would you say 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:25.840 would be your top pick? Richard Pryor because his vision 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.720 of comedy was so big. But there's some white comics 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:32.840 that I just adore with That would be George Carlin 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:38.560 and Jonathan Winters. Because Jonathan Winters his improv skills, to me, 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.800 it was just amazing. He had this one bit where 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:44.240 he'd take a bunch of junk and pile it on 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:47.040 the table and then he picked picked it up and 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.920 then he make a routine out of it. Jonathan Winters, 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:53.640 Richard Pryan, Bill Cosby because of his cleverness, Bill Cosby 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:57.160 because Bill Cosby could talk about one subject it seemed 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:00.760 like forever, you know, and then Red because of the 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:03.280 rawness he was. You know, So all of them, all 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:06.000 of them had in influence. Okay, and you know it's 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:08.680 so interesting that you were saying, how your moment when 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:10.280 you were working on our sen of your hall show 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:13.120 that you are not a good speller, nor can you type, 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:15.920 and how did you get the confidence to do it? 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:20.800 Because usually here's something I always said. This is where 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:23.320 I would when I was working on my comedy routine 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:26.560 while I was in the tailor shop. Honestly, I would 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:29.920 sit and I would practice my routine. I would if 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:32.600 I thought of anything funny, this is the truth. I'd 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:36.560 be doing sleeves or shorten the jacket or whatever and 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:38.360 putting on buttons. When I would sit there and I 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:40.640 would just talk to myself. They thought I was crazy, 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:43.520 and I would talk and anything that came up funny 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:54.000 that you know, yeah, and I was so so Negro 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:58.040 is crazy and so I just at the end of that, 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:03.720 I would say to myself, I'm not gonna let nothing mentally, physically, emotionally, 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.800 or financially stop me from what it is. I'd say 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.240 that every day now, so it was that it would 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:12.440 It never dawned on me what I couldn't do in 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:14.760 terms of what I could what I wanted. When I 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.640 first started doing comedy, I was horrible, but I didn't 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:19.680 let that stop me. I sucked at boot I got 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.680 booted up stages and you know, and you drive home 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:26.640 to the It's horrible. The hark the most of you 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:31.040 that I can compare bombing on the stage to having 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:34.000 a death in your family. It is. It is the 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:38.160 worst feeling, and in comics with it is the worst 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:43.600 feeling in the world because you go up here to 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:48.720 make somebody laugh and they go, na, we we ain't 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:51.480 feeling numb. By the same token, the most funniest thing 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.720 in the world for a comedian is to watch another 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:59.680 comedian bomb. And let me tell you why it was 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.720 because we've all been there. We've all been there, so 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:05.800 we're laughing at you. We're laughing at your pain. We're 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:08.639 laughing at that pain. You know what it's like, You know, 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:11.679 like Mom's when the baby sticks your things in the socket. 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:16.920 You you ain't gonna do that, and you're laughing not 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:20.560 that because mom has burned herself. So I've been burned. 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.440 So that's why that's funny. So man, I would have 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:26.040 I would have nights oh my god, it was like 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:32.760 it would be but you but I just tells me 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:36.399 the fact that you had that type of perseverance, Uh, 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:39.920 you know you had some type of foundation. What was 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:41.959 it like growing up? Somebody had to push you? Are 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:45.439 you had? I had several funny people in my family. 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:49.960 My mom was hilarious, but my mom was funny, laughing 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:54.760 if you were laughing at her, if you my mom 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.560 was funny if I was laughing at her. Not not 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:00.639 that she said anything brillently funny. It's just that my 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.840 mom was a big lady. She waved probably about three 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:07.280 hundred pounds, and she was a short lady, and she 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:11.000 would just say things that to me were funny. Uh 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:13.439 the funny. One of the funniest things my mom did. 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:16.320 My mom and mom. When I started be doing comedy, 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:19.000 I put my mom in my acting. It just came 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:21.320 to the point where when I would come home, my 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:24.240 mom and my dad like, all he come, don't don't 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:27.119 nobody moved, because if you see something, he's gonna make 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:28.879 a joke about he gonna put you on the radio. 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:31.359 So they were they were funny. But the funniest thing 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:33.480 I bought a hat a pi a hundred and fifty 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:36.000 dollars for the straw hat. This is you as a child, right, 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:38.440 I was the comedian at the time. I was doing 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:40.760 the set up. So I go see my mom. I 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:42.880 had my on my new hat and set my hat down. 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:46.080 I get ready to go. I can't look. I can't 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:47.600 find my hat. I don't know where my hat is. 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:51.160 Where's my hat? My hat? My hat? Oh my god, 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:53.560 my hat. And my mom says, well, I'll get up 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:55.840 and help you look for it. I'm not okay, no problem. 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:58.840 So she gets up. You see where this is going? Right? 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:02.680 And the hat? So she's looking around and the hat 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:06.560 is stuck to my mom's ass. So I started laughing. 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:12.320 She said, you been not see that in the radio. Well, 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:15.400 I'm gonna put that right on the radio. That's going. 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:21.600 That's going directly. Because my family had to understand that 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:25.400 if you could take money from these jokes, you could 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:28.480 be the joke. The joke helps us. That's where it 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:31.720 comes from. It's like, I'm inspired by y'all do something 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:34.359 stupid so I can take to the radio. Yeah, get 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:38.159 some money and everybody gonna be So what was your 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:41.560 mom like? Oh my god, as I have two moms 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:46.040 about writing, I thinking about writing a book or two moms. 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:49.040 It was an appreciative mom and the mean mom when 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:53.080 I was young, and then the save mom that she 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:55.600 got saved, she got religion, and I love I love 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:57.760 both of them, and I think both moms love me. 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:01.480 And the beginning, she was just me, just you know me, 0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:04.800 like you know, you're a comic, so you you probably 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:07.680 no no my mother when I was me or here's 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:10.000 the thing, and I think, and I know why when 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:12.000 I grew up, when I grew up and became an 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:15.080 older man, my mother had two kids at the age 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:18.520 of sixteen years old, sixteen or seventeen, maybe fifteen. When 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:21.760 she had my sister, she was probably fifteen, and my 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:24.560 grandmother said, well, you know what, since you're trying to 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:28.080 finish school, I'll take the baby and raise that baby. Well, 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:31.760 then my mother gets pregnant again with me, you know, 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:34.320 and now my grandmother said, well, I'm not taking care 0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:37.520 of any more babies. You're on your own now. And 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:40.080 I think my mom resented the fact that, Okay, I 0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:43.640 gotta do this by myself. Here's this kid, my mom 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:45.840 got the other one, my mother has the other one. 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:48.560 Now I got the younger baby. I really got to 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:52.560 do this. And so whatever resentment that she had from 0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:55.520 being in a situation that she put herself in, she 0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:58.000 took it out on me. My mother wasn't, you know, 0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:02.080 school educated, but she had eight knowledge of awareness in 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:04.080 terms of I'm gonna do this and I'm gonna believe 0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:07.720 in myself. My mother pleaded house. She cleaned the University 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:10.680 of South Carolina. The most inspirational thing was my mother 0:21:10.760 --> 0:21:13.840 cleaning the University of South Carolina. And my sister graduated 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:18.000 from there. That's like, that's some amazing ship. That's amazing. 0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:21.280 My sister graduated from the same place my mom cleaned up. 0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:24.800 So when my mom became the save mom, the same 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:27.560 mom didn't remember the stuff the bad mom did. She 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:29.760 don't remember none of When you say bad mom, like 0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:31.960 are you talking about you got popped for doing something you? 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:36.960 I got beat? I got her bad. What made her 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:40.119 or not so good? Because I was the only child, 0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:41.760 you know, I was the only child. Was just me 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:44.320 and her, and there were times when you know, I 0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:47.920 wasn't doing good or just for no reason. It was 0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:51.080 that her, her and my dad weren't together. It was like, 0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:55.639 you know, and your daddy is not taking care of you, 0:21:55.760 --> 0:21:57.720 and your daddy is not you know. So it's just 0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:00.879 some resentment that people have and people who who are 0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:05.320 never in that predicament where it's just one parent. You 0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:07.520 can have one loving parent, but you can have one 0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:10.760 parent who's not so loving. Right. I was just thinking 0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:13.360 for myself, like, I don't I don't have that direct experience, 0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:14.920 Like my dad died when I was three months, so 0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:17.000 I don't know what it's like to have that father figure. 0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:19.280 And for my mom, that was the love of her life. 0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:22.240 So I just came from having a single parent. So 0:22:22.359 --> 0:22:24.680 I don't know when you say, like, oh, just not nice, 0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:26.320