1 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Everybody, welcome back to you between the horns. Miles Simmons, 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: DeMarco far It is June twentieth, finally about eleven, twenty 3 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: Pacific time. Here in sunny Agora Hills, California. People keep 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: asking me when's the next podcast? Do you think? I 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: keep saying it's Miles, it's your fault. Yeah, it's up 6 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: to Miles. Okay, yeah, I'm ready to go. Every day 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: it's not it's yeah, it's not up to the person 8 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: who has to drive to the snow. It's up to him. 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: Even that's not the person that is actually at the 10 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: place where the studio told every day have the best. 11 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: One day, you told me you didn't have a haircut, 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: the other day something about your nails. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, well, 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: lots of football talker, Yeah, there's lots of things to 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: talk about it as we wrap up the twenty eighteen offseason. 15 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 1: Program got finished last week with mini camps, so that 16 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: was it was interesting because mini mini camps. Yeah, it 17 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: was a mini mini camp. Because when we talked about 18 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: it at Kowloon, this is the first time we've been 19 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: in the studio for a little bit. It's been a while. 20 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: Kind of funny it's been a while. I like being 21 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: in the controlled elements of the studio so you can 22 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: yell yeah, yes exactly, I know and other things. And 23 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: players don't just walk back. If you guys knew the 24 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: real miles No, anyway, nobody would like me. I would 25 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: give her. But I think what was interesting. You know, 26 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: we talked about mini camp before Mini Camp, and it 27 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: was like, okay, you know, if you're not good by 28 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: mini camp, this is it's a time where you're going 29 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: to see if you're in shape, out of shape and 30 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: all that. But it ended up being a real mental 31 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: exercise for these players because they didn't even go eleven 32 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: on eleven with the ones at any time in those 33 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: two days. I think it's smart, especially when you have 34 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: an existing coach or there's continuity to your offense, your defense. 35 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: For the most part, everyone knows the calls. So the 36 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: one thing you don't want to have happened in Mini 37 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: camp or this time of year is get somebody hurt, right, Yeah, 38 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: and you already had that happen to Morgan Fox, So 39 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: I mean that's gonna put everybody on edge. So yeah, 40 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: this isn't the time for live competition unless you have 41 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: a new coach and there's guys buying for new job, 42 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: and that's going to happen on this football team as well, 43 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: but not so much like in Arizona. Right, there's a 44 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 1: coaching change there. They've turned over completely. We've been through 45 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: this before with this football team. So I mean, like 46 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: you said, this offense is improving on things they already know, 47 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: This defense is improving on things they already know. Special 48 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: teams included. So you can treat this as a mini 49 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: mini camp, but this wasn't a country club. Those guys 50 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: were out there working. They were for the short time 51 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: that they were out there, So work smarter, not harder. Yes, yeah, 52 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: that always puts more ws than els, right, And that's 53 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: the thing I think Wade Phillips said it last week 54 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: when he was talking about the way practice is working 55 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: for mini camp, and you say, you know, this is 56 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,119 Speaker 1: very valuable because these guys are getting some that mental experience, 57 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: those mental reps. And he said, Sean McVeigh has down 58 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,119 Speaker 1: a really nice job of taking practices and making them 59 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: like that, because you can't just beat each other up 60 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: throughout the entire regular season. So he was really going 61 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: back to things like they were doing toward the end 62 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: of last season where I think Wednesday were basically kind 63 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: of became walkthroughs. You remember that, Oh yeah, and then 64 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: you know then Thursday and Friday they were kind of 65 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: ramp things up a little bit more. But what he 66 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: was saying was that Sean McVeigh do is a really 67 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: good job of taking that mental aspect of the game 68 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: and really implementing it and bringing it home. And you know, 69 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: for a guy like me that that played in the nineties, 70 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: you know throughout college and the pros, seeing this sort 71 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: of process is eye opening because there was only one 72 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: way to do it way back when you had to 73 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: go full out, full speed, padded up practices just to 74 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: get better. You really discounted coaching when you thought that 75 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: if you remove that, the players or the game was 76 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: going to drop off. Some Come out and watch this 77 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: team practice. Come out and watch the forty nine ers practice. 78 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: How the the new era of teams are doing it. Now. 79 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: You can get better without pads. Yeah, you can have 80 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: a practice that wears you out without actually putting shoulder 81 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: pads on. I've seen it. I've seen it done. But 82 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: the best teams, the good teams, they know how to 83 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: practice and know how to get their work in. They 84 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: know how to be efficient, not waste time, and then 85 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: get the heck off the field, get off your feet. 86 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: I mean that is the main that's the key of 87 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: the NFL. I think part of what you're talking about 88 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: is tempo, right, Yeah, you know the way McVay and 89 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: coaching in the building. Yes, going over it in the building. 90 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: Everybody knows what to do before you actually step on 91 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: the field. That's the thing you used to drive me 92 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: crazy about when I was a player. We'd spend forty 93 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: five minutes on the field standing up trying to figure 94 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: out where to go. Well, that's the stuff that should 95 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: be handled in the room like it's being handled now. 96 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: So when you take the field, you're working, you're repping, 97 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: and you're moving on to the next period, next drill, 98 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: and then getting off the field. That's smart. What were guys, 99 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: and this goes back to the legends weekend. You know, 100 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: guys were able to kind of sit in the meeting rooms. 101 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: What were they saying about those meetings keywords sit? Yeah. Yeah, 102 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: when those legends came back, nobody wants to stand up. 103 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, we're old guys, Now give me the chairs. Absolutely, no, 104 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's just amazing to watch some of 105 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: the techniques, like sitting in a room with you know, 106 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: former defensive linemen of all era sixty seven, the eighties 107 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: on through and watching how they're being coached now because 108 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: you've been where those young players are right now, you've 109 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: been in the front of the room, the back of 110 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: the room. The coach likes that, he doesn't like it. 111 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: You're on the team. I'm not sure you've been through 112 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: all that before, so it's a little bit different. But 113 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: to see how the techniques have changed, but to see 114 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: how the coaches still have to connect with players to 115 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: get the best out of them. That doesn't change, right, Yeah, Okay, well, 116 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: I think just going back to the way minicamp worked 117 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: and then OTAs, what is maybe your biggest takeaway from 118 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: the off season program That Miles Simmons is getting better 119 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: with football? What does that mean? We were actually our 120 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: conversations are getting a little better on the sideline. You're 121 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: not asking nearly as many questions. Oh well, yeah, like 122 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: what's that? Well that's the football, Miles, that was day one. 123 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: Those lines, yard markers, Oh yeah. The biggest difference from 124 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: you know, I guess if you can put it into 125 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: a guy, it would be Goff. Okay, it would be 126 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: Jared Goff. Watch in this wiry kid come through the 127 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,559 Speaker 1: door and you're kind of scratching your head, not so sure, 128 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: and then to watch him go through that meat grinder 129 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: of a rookie season and then into year or two 130 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: where things start to change and now he's a pro bowler. 131 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: Now he's a full fledged leader of this football team. Right, Yeah, 132 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest difference. And we talked about that, 133 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: as long as your leadership was coming from the right spots, 134 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: namely that spot right, you've got a pretty good chance 135 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: to win on any given Sunday. That's the case I 136 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: think for any team. Right, You know, you want your 137 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: leadership to come from certain spots. The quarterback position is 138 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: a natural position that lends itself to that. Yeah. Yeah, 139 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: If your quarterback is not a leader of your team 140 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: or for your team, it's going to be difficult to 141 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: win because that usually means that guys don't have confidence 142 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: in that quarterback. If you don't have confidence in the quarterback, 143 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: like the offense just is not going to function properly. True, Well, 144 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: I mean it can happen I mean, it's on the 145 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: rare occasion you'll get those Ray Lewis led football teams. Yeah, 146 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like the Trent Dilfer, two thousands 147 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: more raves might be one or way back before Russell 148 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: Wilson really took off, that wasn't his football team. That 149 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: was led on the other side of the ball. But eventually, 150 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: if you want to be a perennial power, a Super 151 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: Bowl contender every single year, it's got to be that guy, right. Yeah, 152 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: you can try to do it the hard way, and 153 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: some guys have and it's worked out, But for the 154 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: most part throughout history, if that guy is your leader, 155 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: you have a better chance to win. I think that 156 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: position is people call the middle linebacker the quarterback of 157 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: the defense, right, but that quarterback of the defense can 158 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: come from other spots than that, you know, because but 159 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: they called the quarterback of the defense because he is 160 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: the defensive signal caller in most situations. So Corey Littleton, 161 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: I say all that to say Corey Littleton now is 162 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: kind of having to grow into that role and it's 163 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: not necessarily something that he is. I don't want to 164 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: say a tep that because that's the wrong word. But 165 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: it's not something that necessarily comes as naturally to him 166 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: as it might to other people, because it's not something 167 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: that he has done before, like public somebody that's not 168 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: used to it from a room for the first time, 169 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: they freeze. Yes, same deal. Um, either that guy quarterback 170 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: of the defense. Either I want that guy to be 171 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: as intelligent as say Tom Brady. No, everything about what's 172 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: going on. Get me in and out of bad plays, 173 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: move guys around, tell me what you see on the sideline, 174 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: or if I can't have that and that's the top 175 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: of the line, then give me an empty vessel and 176 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: let Wade Phillips fill it. All you need to do 177 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: is communicate what he's saying off the sideline right, and 178 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: get that out to eleven guys to the other ten. 179 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: Be strong in that what the call is, so that 180 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: everyone else is on the same page with at least 181 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: one call right, and you can adjust on the sideline 182 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: if you're having problems. What's interesting to me is that 183 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: you know Corey Littleton's doing that job in large part 184 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: because of the way the linebacking core is right now. 185 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot of injuries that have 186 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: happened to the linebacking core guys coming back from injuries 187 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: things like that. So as it stands, right, yeah, Jeanie, 188 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: I want like, please, can we make Mark Barron completely healthy? Yeah? Yeah? 189 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: Can we make him like he was his rookie year 190 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: right or even two years ago? Yeah? Yeah, that guy 191 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: is a monster. He is. Yeah, in this defense, he 192 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: is absolutely a beast, especially with the guys up front. Anyway, 193 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, no, but you're going right into You just 194 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: said the person that I was going right into, and 195 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: that's Mark Barron. And you know, so you have the 196 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: Mike and the MO positions that are the inside linebackers. 197 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: Baron being the MO, the Mike being the role that 198 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: alec Ogletree played who was more of the signal caller. 199 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: They're very similar positions. Cory Littleton shifted over to Mike. Ideally, 200 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: Mark Barron still plays that MO position there. Remick Wilson 201 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: was doing it during OTA's in minicamp, but the plan 202 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: right now is to still have Mark Barron in that space. 203 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: And what I thought was interesting is that Wade Phillips 204 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: said Mark Barron could be doing the signal calling too, 205 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: but he's not right now because he had been over 206 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: doing work on the side, and he's doing work on 207 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: the side so that they can keep him as healthy 208 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: as possible for training camp in the regular season, right. 209 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: I mean two heads are always better than one, right, 210 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: But somebody's going to have to be the guy that 211 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: has the speaker, is going to be the quote unquote 212 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: captain of the defense, quarterback of the defense. You know, 213 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: if it's if I could, I would want to limit 214 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: I want to say limit the communication. But I don't 215 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: want to give Mark barn too much because he's instinctive, 216 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: just like Aaron Donald, if he's calling plays, if you're 217 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: a guy that's calling plays nine times out of ten, 218 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to play the play correctly. I want 219 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: some guys out there that are freelancers, my playmakers, as 220 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: in Donald. We talked about this tolerance, our production tolerance. 221 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: I put Mark Barron in that same category. You see 222 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: where I'm going with this. I do. Yeah, if you 223 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: smell something, if you see it, he's got the ability 224 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: to get to go get it. Yes, even if it 225 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: goes against what I just called. Now, you can't do 226 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 1: that as the play caller. That is true. Yeah, you 227 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: have to play every call true and positive, right, and 228 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: to the letter of what was called boy. If you're 229 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: an instinctive guy, find the ball and get it. And 230 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: that goes back to I think what we've been talking 231 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: about a lot just from the standpoint of you know 232 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: what you said with Aaron Donald, but even Wade Phillips 233 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: talked about it last week during Mini Camp. But I 234 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: don't know if you saw this quote, but I'm going 235 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: to kind of bring it up right now and do 236 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: our segment called reading as soon as I find it. 237 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: But I'm looking through this. We did one time we 238 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: did yeah where I read quotes? Oh is that when 239 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: you did the funny voice. I don't know if you 240 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: did a funny voice, do Wade Phillips. I'm not gonna do. 241 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna Wade phillips impression. I've brought this up, 242 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 1: but like he was asked last week about strong personalities 243 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: and how you work with strong personalities, and everybody always 244 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: asks him and asks him this because of you know, 245 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 1: you signed Sue, you know you traded for Peters, you 246 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: you acquired to leave, and all of those guys had 247 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: strong personalities. But what he was saying was, you know, 248 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: strong personalities. You know, I, like I said, they're smart guys. 249 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 1: They've practiced before. They know how to practice. There's an argument. 250 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: If there's something going on, un to Leave is going 251 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 1: to take the other side, So I know that about him. 252 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: It's going to argue about which rap singer is the 253 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: best or whatever. But as far as strong personalities, I 254 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: explained what I want done, how I want it done, 255 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: and why we want it done that way. They understand 256 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: those things. And this is the part where it really 257 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: relates to what you were just saying. I like personalities 258 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: because they're independent enough to do things on their own, 259 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: and they've shown their independent enough to be great players too. Right, 260 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: So he's saying, we tell them, we tell them to 261 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: do this and to do that. But Marcus Peters on 262 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: a couple of plays last year and a couple of 263 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: plays he's playing man to man and they throw it 264 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 1: to another player, but he intercepts it. That's what I'm 265 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: talking about. You don't want to say no, you cover 266 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: you're a man. Well, if you intercept it when they 267 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 1: throw to somebody else, that's great. Those are the kind 268 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: of guys they are. You want them to do all 269 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: the right things and help them to be a better player, 270 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: But you don't want them to lose that initiative. That's 271 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: what they have and that's the way I've always coached. 272 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: I agree with that one. You got to let guys 273 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 1: play football right, especially on that side of the ball. Right. 274 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: You can't have all guys doing what you want them 275 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: to do on every single play. That's just impossible. That's 276 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: not playing defense. At some point, your instincts are going 277 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: to kick in. That's why you're at this level. Exactly. Yeah, 278 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: And you don't want to slow those guys down. That's 279 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: why Marcus Peters has twenty one interceptions if you include 280 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: regular season and playoffs over the last three years. Would 281 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: be funny go through all his picks, sit with his 282 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: coaches and say which play was he doing the right 283 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: thing and the wrong Some of Aaron Donald's best plays, 284 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: he's doing the exact wrong thing. Yes, he's just doing 285 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: it nine yards up the field. Yes, yeah, and then 286 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: he gets the ball out, so no one's going to complain. Well, yeah, exactly. 287 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: Greg Williams always used to say that former defensive coordinator 288 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: now at the Browns, like, you know, you get a 289 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: play with Aaron Donald and it's like, oh, why are you? 290 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: Oh okay, exactly, Oh, great play. Have you seen those 291 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: like those little sideline shots of coaches. No, yeah, yeah, yeah, 292 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: they switch right in the middle. That's that's what happens 293 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: with guys like that. So the thing that does worry 294 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: me about if you're going to make Corey Littleton that 295 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: guy is I hope I don't lose his playmaking ability. 296 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: And we said the same thing a year a couple 297 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: of years ago about alec Ogletree. Yeah he switched over 298 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: from week side to the middle. I hope I don't 299 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: lose his playmaking ability. Event truly, it came back that guy. 300 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: But while you're learning that spot, it's so tough to 301 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:10,119 Speaker 1: learn everybody's job that sometimes you get paralysis by analysis. 302 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: You just have to get through these plays so I 303 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: can process it all and then by the fourth quarter, 304 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: maybe I can be instinctive, right, I think. But defense 305 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: to me is always about instincts, right, I mean for 306 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: the most as a player who played defense and did 307 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: it very well. That I mean, and I mean you, 308 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: I don't mean me when I say that, king about 309 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: I know, but the only I came out of my mouth, 310 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: I was like, but I just I always think about 311 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: and this is whatever. But like when I played football 312 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: in high school. I played offensive line, and to me, 313 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: I was able to do it well because I felt 314 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: like I was dictating. You weren't reacting, and to me, 315 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: defense is all about reaction and you got to read this. 316 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: You got to do this instead of Okay, this is 317 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: the play we're doing, like, let's let's mess them up, right. 318 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: So I think that goes to what you're saying, and 319 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: especially with defensive players, like if you are not using 320 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: your instincts enough, you're not going to be able to 321 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: play defense effectively. Right. I think the fun part with 322 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: this defense, if it is going to be Corey Littleton, 323 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: is how he slows Donald down or anybody down. That's freelancing, 324 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: that's hurting the defense. Yeah, hey, look, you're gonna have 325 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: to play this the way I call it from now on. Right. 326 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: That can't come from Wade Phillips on the sideline when 327 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: you're out in the middle of the field. That's got 328 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: to come from your middle linebackers. So it's the same 329 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: as a young coach talking to his team for the 330 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: first time. You've got to establish who you are day 331 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: one and they'll respect you for it. But like you said, 332 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: with these new personalities that are on this football team 333 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: that are used to getting their way. It's up to 334 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: your signal caller to make sure that at least when 335 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: we break the huddle, we're all on the same page, 336 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: right in call and philosophy, how we're going to play 337 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: and what they're trying to do to us, right. And 338 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: I think just the fact that you've got such a 339 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: veteran group that could be one of the biggest things 340 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: for Coreyton especially. Yeah. I mean, like you've got to 341 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: Leave on one side at corner, who has made a 342 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: living by taking you know, passes back to the house. 343 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: He's the active leader in intercessions return for a touchdown. 344 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: Marcus Peters on the other side, as Wade Phillips just said, like, 345 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: he's sometimes freelances and it turns out wonderfully. You know. 346 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald is another one of those guys. And Dom 347 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: can see another one because you know, yeah, I was 348 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: looking up to Leave's numbers in Denver. Was eleven picks, 349 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: twelve picks and six at the end zone or something 350 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: like that, almost half at the end zone. That's the 351 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: type of corner I like, of course, not only do 352 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: you grab it, you score with it, right, Yeah, just 353 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: as long as you give me a chance to get 354 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: my breath before we take the field again just a 355 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: little bit. But yeah, I mean, and he's used to 356 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: being around the top five in defense. Yeah, so he's 357 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: the guy that can help you when as beyond coaching, 358 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: as far as when to take things seriously, when do 359 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: you need to work? When can we stop joking because 360 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: this is about to happen the regular season, training camp, 361 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: all that type of stuff. Those are the guys you 362 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: look to, Yeah, because you're used. Like you said, Denver 363 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: went on a tremendous defensive run and they got a 364 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: Super Bowl out of it. Yep. Imagine if this team 365 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: with this offense goes on a similar run defensively and 366 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: you're in the top five, where does that put you 367 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 1: in the NFL? That puts you toward the topic and 368 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: it could possibly happen, yes, yeah, and that would be 369 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: they would be in great shape. But I think we 370 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: got to talk about this too. And it was a 371 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: player we've been mentioning in the last few minutes, and 372 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: that's Aaron Donald. The holdout has continued through mandatory mini camp, 373 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 1: and I will talk about players when they're not here, Yeah, 374 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: especially him. No, and it's something that obviously we've been 375 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: dealing with since the twenty seventeen offseason, and Aaron Donald 376 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: didn't come in until like basically the night before Week one, 377 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: and then oh, by the way, he just goes out 378 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: and he wins Defensive Player of the Year and I think, yeah, 379 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: and he wins it in playing fourteen games, So he 380 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: didn't play in Week seventeen either. I think what was 381 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: interesting about what Sean McVay had to say about Aaron 382 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: Donald last week was he was kind of doing this 383 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: dance where he was sort of saying, you know, we 384 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: want Aaron to be here, but we understand why he's 385 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: not here. And I mean, in the grand scheme of things, 386 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: Aaron one Defensive Player of the Year last year without 387 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,959 Speaker 1: being here, and so we understand that Aaron's working and 388 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: he's doing things the right way and everything, but that 389 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: doesn't mean we wouldn't want him here. But it's kind 390 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: of okay that he's not but you know, we do 391 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: want and he kept repeating himself, basically trying to say, 392 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: like in a nutshell, it's like, we know he's not here. 393 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: We want a resolution, we want him to be here, 394 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: but he's not and he's still probably going to be 395 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: a really, really good player when he's back. Just put 396 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 1: that on the sign and hold it up. Yes, yeah, 397 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: but I get the answers are repetitive. What question can 398 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: you ask at this point? What about Donald? If you're 399 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: sitting there with Sean McVay or anybody that's answering questions, 400 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: what can you ask them that hasn't been asked? I mean, 401 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: the only question you can ask is when is this 402 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: going to get done? And that's the only una answered question, dude. 403 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, no idea, no, and it might 404 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: not be when you think it's going to be sure. 405 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: If ever, at some point it's going to happen, but 406 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: you never know, you don't. Right, Eventually he's going to 407 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: show up, Yeah, and when he puts his hand on 408 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: the ground, he's going to play as hard as he 409 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: can possibly play. That's who he is, right, That's the 410 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: only thing you can pretty much guarantee, right, I mean, 411 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: and I think that the other thing that you can 412 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: almost guarantee is that he's going to in all likelihood 413 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: being a RAMS uniform. I don't want to guarantee that 414 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: because I don't know for sure. Nobody does, But I 415 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: don't see Aaron Donald playing anywhere else than Los Angeles 416 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: for the Rams, you know what I'm saying, Like especially, 417 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: it just doesn't right. Yeah, he's kind of in a 418 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: situation right now where you play for the Rams or 419 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: you're not going to be playing this year, right, I assume, Yeah, 420 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: unless unless some team wants to start off with four 421 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: first round picks for Aaron Donald. And even then, I 422 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: don't know that that really might give me a table, right, Yeah, 423 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: it's it's a tough situation to be in. Um. I 424 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever I mean, even with running backs, 425 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: this is different. It is I don't know if you've 426 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: ever seen anything like this. How do you pay him? 427 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 1: What do you pay him? And should you? All that 428 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: stuff is rolled in the one, and you'll have all 429 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: these questions until you turn on the film and then 430 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: you go, yes, pay the guy. Yeah. Yeah. But it's 431 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: the difficulty of the NFL being a salary capped sport, 432 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: right right, Because not only do you have somebody who 433 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: is a generational player in Aaron Donald, you arguably have 434 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: two more in Marcus Peters and Todd Gurley. And then oh, 435 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: by the way, you've got a quarterback who is going 436 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: to make thirty million dollars a year in Jared Goff 437 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: in a couple of years. So these things is what 438 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Brandon Cooks, I didn't even mention him. So 439 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: these things don't happen in a vacuum. No, there's a 440 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: lot going on. A Joiner is currently on a franchise. Tap. 441 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: There's a lot of moving parts to this, right. Yeah, 442 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: and if you circle back to Sean McVeagh, you are 443 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: in win now mode. Yes, most definitely. I think they 444 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: all are. Every coach, even Cleveland, they're mode. Well that's 445 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: how that was, No knock, I don't think so, but 446 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: I mean, like, you better win a game. You can't 447 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: go oh in sixteen twice. Arizona with a coaching change 448 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: is thinking when now. Now. They may be two years 449 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: away from actually being competitive and great, but they're thinking. 450 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: All coaches think win now, but especially here with the 451 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: things you just mentioned like who's coming up and win 452 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: and the positions that are coming up, you're in win 453 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: now mode because in three years things could look drastically different. 454 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: That's just the way it goes. Well, it's what happened 455 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: with Seattle, right pretty much? You know, you had a 456 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: really good quarterback on yes, on a rocky contract that 457 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: wasn't even number one pick rookie contract. You know it's 458 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: the third round pick like that is that is really 459 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: really good? That's what it's the situation Dallas is in 460 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: right now, right where you want to maximize that window 461 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: because you've got a quarterback that is ostensible, your franchise quarterback, 462 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: and you've got him on the cheep and you don't 463 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: have to pay him right so that what you're saying 464 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: is it's absolutely true you're in when now mode. But 465 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: with Aaron Donald, he's in I need to get paid 466 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: now mode, which makes a lot of sense based on 467 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,719 Speaker 1: his production. Can we have some fun, just let's just 468 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: play doctor Evil for a half second, just you and I. 469 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: We're making decisions, right and we say, if we don't 470 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: give him a deal this year, it may actually make 471 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: him angry and he plays better. What do you do? Right? 472 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: But does he get back on the field without a 473 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: new deal? The great question if if you're his representation, 474 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: probably not. But this is still Aaron Donald's career and 475 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: this is what he does. He wants to play ball. Yes, 476 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: I don't think he can live without playing ball con 477 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: don't either, which right, which I love. I love all. 478 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: There's no bad side to this. There's no bad guys 479 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: all of this. It's just the way the business. And 480 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: I think that the fact that there is no bad 481 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: guys sort of accentuated by the fact that we've not 482 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: heard contract numbers. And this is something we said last 483 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,239 Speaker 1: year too abround this time. Yeah, you know, when you 484 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: start hearing figures from one side or the other, that's 485 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: when it's like, oh, you know the RAMS have offered X. 486 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: If that gets leaked, then you're starting to see okay, 487 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: you know they really the negotiations aren't going that well. Okay, 488 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, Well, to this point, we have not 489 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: heard one figure for an Aaron Donald contract, and that 490 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: dates back to last week. We'll break it down to 491 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: Layman's terms. Look for the highest mountain and then make 492 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: one higher. Yes, that's it, right, that's where you are, 493 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: right and reportedly you know the Rams because there's no 494 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 1: no firm figures to that, but reportedly the Rams are 495 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: in position and are willing to make Aaron Donald the 496 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: highest paid defensive player in the game. And I think 497 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: that there's no question that that probably should be the case. Yeah, 498 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: I don't think there should be a fear, like if 499 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: you the Albert Haynesworth fear, does that make sense to you? Oh? Absolutely, 500 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: pay him one hundred million and then he takes his 501 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: foot off the guess I think Mohammad Wilkerson just did 502 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: kind of similar things in New York all of a sudden, 503 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: he's not the same guy. I don't think you'd have 504 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: to worry about that, or there is a worry with Donald. 505 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: Look we saw it in Behind the Grind, right, do 506 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: you watch that episode Facebook watch? I mean you he 507 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: said it himself, like I'm not doing this for the cameras. 508 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: This is who I am. Right, you look at the 509 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: basement where in his father's house where he was working 510 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: out as a kid. You know, he said, I was 511 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: a little pudgy and like I needed to slim down 512 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 1: and start bulking up. And like he still works out 513 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: there and works at it, pitt, but he still has 514 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: looked and weights like the basement about and that's who 515 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: he is. You know, he's going to come in whenever 516 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: he gets there, and he's going to be in shape 517 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: and he's going to play well. So I think to 518 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: your point, there is no Albert Haynesworth type fear with 519 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 1: him at all? What did I hear about him? They 520 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: said he makes the dead worry, And I didn't get 521 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: that when they said it. I don't unders stand that either. 522 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: Meanings everybody's numbers are in danger. Oh yeah, he makes 523 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: the dead worry. If you if you died at number ten, 524 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: at whatever number, pretty soon you're gonna be eleven because 525 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 1: he's coming. He's yeah, he's here and he's not stopping. 526 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: And we talked about like we said, this is your 527 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: what five is gonna be five for your five for him? 528 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,719 Speaker 1: So the guys that he played against and beat are 529 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: starting to cycle out and younger players are coming in. Yes, 530 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 1: so this run of dominance isn't over, it's just beginning. 531 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't think you have to worry about 532 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: him slowing down. Whatever. You have to worry about a 533 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: defensive tackle, as you worry about all defensive tackles. It's 534 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: a dangerous spot to play. I get that part. But 535 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: as far as motivation, that if all of a sudden 536 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: you backed up a brinkstruck at his house and just 537 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: dumped the money on his front yard, you're still gonna 538 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: get the same guy Yeah, that's a fun image to 539 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: think about. I would want that. Don't give me a 540 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 1: check back the truck up you ever seen you ever 541 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: watched Breaking Bag? Yes? Yes, you know the scene where 542 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: Lavelle Crawford and I can't remember his name in the show, 543 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 1: is like, just laid out on the money. That's what 544 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: I would want to do. Why not one time lay 545 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: out on the money and then take it to the bank. 546 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: Just don't do the money phone thing. Oh that's that's 547 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: that's old, something different. I am immature enough to do. Hey, 548 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,479 Speaker 1: de Marco, can you hear it? No, I'm so sorry. 549 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: There's too much money? Am I bleeping? Oh my god? 550 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: Oh don't you ever do that? Aaron Donald? No, go ahead, Yeah, 551 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: I totally do it if I was him. Um, you 552 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: go again with the watch. Come on, man, I'm calling 553 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: you out every time you look at that watch. I 554 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: just need to know what time limit? Yeah, well not here, 555 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: we're in the studio. There is a critical date though 556 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: for Aaron Donald that I want to bring up, and 557 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: that would be August seven. So it's something we kind 558 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: of talked about last year too, and it wasn't as 559 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: big of a deal. So you need four years of 560 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: recruit seasons in order to become an unrestricted free agent. Right, so, 561 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 1: right now, Aaron Donald only has three because he did 562 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: not report to the Rams before thirty days before the 563 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: first week of the season. So in order to become 564 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: an unrestricted free agent at in March, at the start 565 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: of the new league year, Aaron Donald would need to 566 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: report to the Rams on April. Excuse me by set 567 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: August seventh. August seventh, easy for me to say, yes, gotcha, 568 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 1: because that's thirty days before the start of week one, 569 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: start of the regular season. So if that were not 570 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: to happen, Aaron Donald would become a restricted free agent 571 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: at the onset of free agency, which would mean that 572 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: should he the Rams not reach any long term deal 573 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: with him, then the Rams would have basically the right 574 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: of first refusal to any contract that he would receive 575 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,479 Speaker 1: on the open market. So or the same time, actually 576 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: gave the Rams leverage in some ways, Yes, okay, it is, 577 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 1: but so right like, and obviously the Rams would put 578 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: the highest end on Aaron Donald. I don't think there's 579 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 1: any question about that. So and they would probably put 580 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: a franchise tag on Aaron Donald. If we're going through 581 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: this scenario. So would there be a team that would 582 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: be like, hey, I'll sign you. Is this you know 583 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: a free agent? And yeah, I would too, and then 584 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: the Rams would maybe get back to first round picks. 585 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: I don't think I would do that. I don't know 586 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: that the Rams would do that either. But that's a 587 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: scenario to work through. So that's why August seventh is 588 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: sort of a critical date on the calendar. If you 589 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: do and you get two first round picks for Donald, 590 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: you better make them guards. Yeah. I'm just just saying, yeah, well, 591 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: as long as yeah, or make sure he's going to 592 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: the AFC oh yeah, yeah, yeah, find somebody to block 593 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: him if that's what happens. But I mean I don't 594 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: I don't see it happening. But it is a scenario, 595 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: and I wanted to bring up. You have to travel 596 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: all roads. I get it. Um, And there's no way 597 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: around it. Um. If he shows up and he's doing 598 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: the right thing by what everybody thinks you should be here, 599 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: then he's actually hurting himself. I get it. You have 600 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: to protect yourself at this point, right, But once the 601 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: season kicks off, you want to be with your teammates. 602 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: It's not about money. Then right, yeah, once once the 603 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: business season is over and it's just about football, you 604 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: should be here. Yeah. I don't know what's going to happen. 605 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: I don't you don't know what's gonna happen. I know 606 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. He's gonna put his hand down and 607 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: continue to wreck shop. Yes, yeah, that's that's how it's 608 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: gonna go. Whenever he gets here. That will definitely be 609 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: the case. Um, I want to talk about that. And 610 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: even without him, by the way, that is still a 611 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: pretty good defensive line. Yeah. I know. Just standing there 612 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: watching Sue and Rocker stand next to each other, good lord, 613 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: I know that would be enough to win. Yeah. Yeah. 614 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: Adding ninety nine is almost going to be unfair, I know, 615 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,479 Speaker 1: and that that's part of it too. I don't want 616 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: to say that the Rams don't need Aaron Toma because 617 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: that's not true, right right, But I think what you 618 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: say is very true. This is still a really good 619 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: defensive front, and when you add him, it's like, Okay, 620 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: that's why this team has the real potential to be 621 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion. Out you go from I think contender 622 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: to you know, you really have expectations on you. When 623 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald's out there. Do me a favor. What does 624 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: it feel like for you when Sue walks by you? Yeah? Okay, 625 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: that's all I wanted to know. It's funny that media day, 626 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: um uh that sup has been last week. This is 627 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: last Monday, so they call it media Day, but it's 628 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: when all the pictures get taken and everything. So he 629 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: was the first one in there. He like, I guess 630 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: Sue likes to get his day started early. So he 631 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: was the first one in there. And one of our 632 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: producers is holding this we call it's a movie camera, yeah, 633 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: and so like it's a rig Oh I saw that, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 634 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: So there were some behind the scenes pictures y'all at home. 635 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: You may want to watch it. See it. So he's 636 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: like holding it and then like Sue's coming up and 637 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: like he's powerful, and I think there was one moment 638 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: where like they had Sue like, oh, Sue, grab the 639 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: camera and he like grabs the camera, and our producer 640 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: tales like, oh yeah, yeah yeah, like he's really really strong. 641 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: Good luck. And so then later Taylor was saying to 642 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: another player, They're like, oh, yeah, grab the camera and 643 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: shake it a little bit, and he's like yeah, maybe 644 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: do it at fifty percent or a quarter yeah, strength, right, 645 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: So I don't like Paul. Guys like Sue like they 646 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: need football. It's the only time people like purposefully try 647 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: to get in his way. Yeah, that's the only time. Yeah. Yeah, 648 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: and then he just moves them out. Just all he 649 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: does is walk in a direction. It'll clear. Yeah yeah, yeah, 650 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: either way you're gonna move, yes, yes, yeah, either I 651 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,239 Speaker 1: make you or you do. Sue. Donald and Brocker's all 652 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: with pads on in front of an offensive line, like 653 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: it solves a lot of problems. Yeah, yeah, it does, 654 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: like it, and it's gonna make the guys on the 655 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: outside that much better thing. That's not just hype. Those 656 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: three guys could literally tie up five blockers. No they can't. 657 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: They're because they're that good. They could tie up five guys. Yes, yeah, 658 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: that's that's that's that's pretty freaky. That's scary. I don't 659 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: know if you've ever seen that. I mean, you have 660 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: to go back to like Steel Curtain days, right to 661 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: where three guys can actually do that to one offensive well, 662 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: and they can't. I mean, like, who are you going 663 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:05,239 Speaker 1: to leave alone? Just in those three guys take your 664 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: chances with doors, but good luck. Well, I'll tell you what. 665 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: I treat Donald like they used to treat pools. I 666 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: just know you're not gonna beat me, Okay, So whatever 667 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: I have, I'm sending it that way, and I'll try 668 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: to live and die on the other two. So you're 669 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: I mean like, but that's the other an offensive coach. 670 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: I don't love that. I mean not that. I I 671 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: don't know what you do. Do you do? You bring 672 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,719 Speaker 1: in two tight ends and you're always max protecting like 673 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: what well, like if you're in a game where let's 674 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: say you're facing one of the inferior lines and three 675 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: guys are actually tying up five, Yeah, well you're gonna 676 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: have to add tight ends and go gos to just 677 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: to move the football. So they're gonna change a lot 678 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: just by being in there. That's fun to think about, 679 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: it is, it's really it's great to think about. Yeah, 680 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be fun. Um. I want to talk 681 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,239 Speaker 1: about the new stadium visit. I don't know how much 682 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: you got to see if like pictures and images they 683 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: can put down there. Oh yeah, yeah, I went down there, 684 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: drove drove by it. Um, we actually got kicked out. Wow, well, 685 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: did you say, do you know who I am? No, 686 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: we went in on a ounce. I wanted to see 687 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: how fast this guy could run. Okay, yeah, well he's 688 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: got a radio. I didn't know. Yeah. Yeah, so but huge, massive, unbelievable. Yeah. Yeah, 689 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: I can't wait until this thing is done. Yeah. It 690 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: was really really cool to be able to get down 691 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: into the bowl. So you know that that thing is 692 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: dug ninety feet down into the ground. Yeah, Like, it's 693 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: it's really deep down in there. And so you know, 694 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: you're riding on the bus and like you're going further 695 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: and further down, and then you just start looking around 696 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: and you just it's it's kind of majestic, like even 697 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: as it's just stealing beams and there's no there's no seats, 698 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: there's no whites, like, there's no roof yet, but just 699 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: looking at the kind of grandeur of what this thing is, 700 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: it's pretty incredible. It is just as a shell of 701 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,479 Speaker 1: it self right now. Great for the fan base. Football 702 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: players can play anywhere. I remember when San Francisco was, 703 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: you know, the it team late eighties, early nineties, and 704 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: Candlestick wasn't much to write home about, right, so it 705 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,879 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what your stadium looks like to the football team, 706 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: but to the fans. You got to Cowboys Stadium and 707 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: watch those fans and how much fun they have even 708 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: before kickoff, just walking in being proud of your football team, 709 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: proud of your home. Yeah, that's big for a team 710 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: like this. So you get your own stadium, so to speak, 711 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,919 Speaker 1: and it's going to be top of the line, state 712 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: of the arts, everything, and your football team is pretty 713 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,399 Speaker 1: good to boot Yeah, yeah, I mean that's that's where 714 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: you want to be as a franchise. Absolutely. What I 715 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: did find interesting though, it was talking to some of 716 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: the guys who have been with the team since you know, 717 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,919 Speaker 1: Saint Louis, right, And I think this is something that 718 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: is kind of unique to us, at least on this 719 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: media programming side, because we were with the team in 720 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: Saint Louis and now we are out here still and 721 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 1: just talking to those guys about kind of going through 722 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: the relocation process and seeing now what this stadium is 723 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: and what Rockers I was talking to Michael Brockers and 724 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: Jamal Brown at the same time. What they were saying 725 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: is that, like it's almost wild to just know how 726 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: quickly everything came up, right like the stadium is kind 727 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: of about to be topped out, and again there's no 728 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: roof and there's still a couple of years before this 729 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: thing is going to open. But just seeing it now, 730 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 1: it's kind of like, wow, this this happened pretty fast. 731 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: It did it? Absolutely? Yeah, if you're a player, you're busy, 732 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean it seems like it came up 733 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: out of nowhere. Um, but here it is. And if 734 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: you're a first, second, third year guy, I mean I 735 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: would bet your goal is number one to make the team, 736 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: but you want to be here as long as you 737 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: can to see that new stadium. Most or some of 738 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: the guys, I'll say, because this is the NFL, some 739 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: of the guys will be there. Some won't, that's just 740 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: the way he won't. Many won't. But as long as 741 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: the key guys are and they they they take that 742 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: new culture in with them to the new building, then yeah, 743 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's golden there. Yeah. I know, I 744 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 1: had I had a tweeter, like a nice captain obvious 745 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: tell me that the thing about the players, like, you know, 746 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: when I was guy was tweeting images or whatever, and 747 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: then the guy was like, oh, well, you know that 748 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: this is the NFL, right, and some of these people, don't, dude, 749 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: look to these piers aren't even gonna be there. It's like, 750 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: you know what, what like why why do you need 751 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: to basically be like, oh, these guys are gonna be 752 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: unemployed and blah blah blaw. You're like, that's not necessarily unemployed. 753 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: Not here. The tone with which the tweet was tweeted 754 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: was of that some of the stars here we might 755 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: not see. I say, I say, there's a ninety five 756 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: percent chance that everybody on this roster will play in 757 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: that stadium. I'm just not sure if they're going to 758 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 1: be wearing a ramchunfair. That's just the way it happens 759 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: in the National Football League, right. And Honestly, when I 760 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: was talking to Roger Saffold, and we know Saffold's been 761 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: around this team, great example, yes, for as long as anybody, 762 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 1: And what he said to me was, I want to 763 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: do everything I can to make sure I'm playing in 764 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 1: this stadium A great example. Yes, because he is the 765 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: longest tenured round. Now I'm hoping because like him and 766 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 1: Whitworth have a chance to be in that new scape. 767 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: Yeah great. I mean, if you're long in the tooth. 768 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: You have double digits in terms of experience after your name. 769 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you want to see if you can make 770 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 1: it into that stadium. But hey, it's the league. It's 771 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: a rough and tumble sport. It is it is so 772 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: I but I thought it was really really cool just 773 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: to be able to get inside that bowl. You know, 774 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 1: we saw Jared throw a pass to Robert Woods and 775 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,240 Speaker 1: then he was throwing them up to the construction workers 776 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: up there, so it was fun. You know. I was 777 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 1: doing this this morning, going through just NFC West depth 778 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 1: charts and positions. I mean, really putting your bias aside receivers. 779 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: Who do you like in this division besides the Rams 780 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: or who's better? I don't know that there's a group 781 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,760 Speaker 1: that I like better. I think Doug Baldwin it deserves 782 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 1: to be fits on that list. Yeah, I was gonna 783 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: say Larry Gerald, even as he is getting long in 784 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: the tooth right like, um, he's still doing things. But yeah, 785 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: as a group, the one, especially one through three, Yeah, 786 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,760 Speaker 1: I don't know that there's many teams in the league 787 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: who can say they have a better one through three 788 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: than the Los Angeles Ran and I have to feel 789 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: comfortable saying that, what do you mean without people saying, oh, 790 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: you're just a homer. No, just look at the names. Yeah, 791 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: I just just look at names. I mean, how can 792 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: you pick other than this group here? Names system, the 793 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 1: coach they've got, you know, in the way he calls plays, 794 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: I have a and I know that I see it 795 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 1: every day, and I think that does create a sort 796 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 1: of sense of bias. But I try to take that 797 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,320 Speaker 1: out of it and just the way this group works, 798 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: especially if they stay healthy. Um, I really think this 799 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,439 Speaker 1: could be one of the best one through three receiving course. 800 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: Stack your running backs. You're starting tailbacks in the NFC West, 801 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: Um Todd Girl, David Johnson. I mean those two. I'll 802 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 1: give credit to David Johnson. He's really I'll throw a 803 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 1: Penny in at three. I think he's gonna be fine. Yeah, 804 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: Penny in Seattle, Yeah yeah, and then we'll figure out 805 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: what San Francisco is gonna do. Yes, ok, Fair McKennon, 806 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: Jack McKinnon, right, Yeah, I mean he should be good 807 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 1: in Kyle Shannon's I think they've got Penny as the 808 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: number one guy with McKenny be and the change of 809 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: pace guy in Seattle McKinnon. Mckinnons in San Franciso. Excuse me, yes, yes, 810 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: and see what they're gonna do at running back. That's 811 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: why I said, okay, yeah, yes, see what they're going 812 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 1: to do it running back? I think, yeah, who am 813 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: I thinking of in Seattle? The little guy that killed you? 814 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: I can't remember anyway, Yeah, and stack your quarterbacks if 815 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,800 Speaker 1: you can. Okay, well you have a question mark question 816 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: mark in Arizona, right, Bradford. Yeah, I'll go Bradford. If 817 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: he stays healthy, I'll go brad Disney. Is he going 818 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: to be playing week two? I'll go Bradford for now? 819 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 1: Is Bradford goodna want to come? I'll go Brad and 820 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: Donald before we start, before we started to tackle Foo. Yeah, 821 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: on paper it is Bradford. I think Josh Rosen will 822 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 1: be playing by week five, um and at the latest. 823 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 1: And then you've got Russell Wilson. I think you got 824 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: to say Russell Wilson is the best quarterback of the division. 825 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: Got a ring, He's earned it. And then who's your two? 826 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. Goff made the Pro Bowl last year? 827 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: Did not. Garoppolo ostensibly is very very good. See the 828 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: argument for that came towards the end, those two guys, 829 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 1: you're gonna pick Garoppolo over Bradford? I said, yes, oh, 830 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: And they said, what has Garoppolo done? He's healthy, Right, 831 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 1: that's the only thing you can point to. But as 832 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: far as experience of numbers, you'd have to go with Bradford, 833 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: you would, But like, what has Bradford done for you 834 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: in the last couple of years that makes you say 835 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: this is a guy that you want to really lead 836 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:48,240 Speaker 1: your franchise for. You know, the foreseeable spot duty looks great. 837 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: It's just you know what's going to happen. It's inevitable. 838 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: He's going to get hurt, it is, yes, And like 839 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 1: I don't mean to say that to disparage a guy 840 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,280 Speaker 1: or anything, but you know, it's just it's just the truth, 841 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 1: true fun. Right. But when you do the All twenty 842 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 1: two pick your All Star team from the NFC West, 843 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: most of the guys are coming from this football team. Yeah, yeah, 844 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 1: And I think you have to get comfortable saying that, 845 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: not just on paper, some of these guys are actually 846 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: proven to be the best in this division already. Yes, 847 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 1: I think you can say that with Marcus Peterson to 848 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: keep to lead you know before they even take a 849 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: snap that that's they've done it, right, Yes, at a 850 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 1: high level, at a very high level. Brandon Cooks has 851 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 1: done it at a very high level, right, you know. 852 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 1: And more he is more of that proven experience than 853 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins did when Sammy Watkins came in last year. 854 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: And I don't mean to say that Sammy Watkins is 855 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: not a good player, because he is. Obviously he earned 856 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,240 Speaker 1: that contract he got in Kansas City. But I think 857 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: when you see Brandon Cooks, you understand why Sean McVay 858 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 1: was so excited to get a player of his caliber in. 859 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 1: He's got the numbers that go along with the speed 860 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: and everything else. True, kiss that's the kids Kissick said 861 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: he was in Minnesota. See, I love when we figure 862 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 1: stuff out on this show. It's great. Yes, yes, now 863 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 1: we're done. Now, you're done? Done now? Or we're kind 864 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: of going with that? That was fun good in the show. Miles. No, 865 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: I didn't think we were done. Oh wrap up the show, 866 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: Miles who you say, You're like, oh, long as we 867 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,359 Speaker 1: want and then you want to wrap up the show. 868 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: And what else you got? What else you got? I 869 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 1: saw the Incredibles. It was outstanding. I don't think I've 870 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: ever actually seen the first Incredibles movie in the show Miles, Wow, 871 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,720 Speaker 1: you know a movie. I saw what I saw solo 872 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 1: and it was I okay, fair, what did you think? 873 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 1: I'm right there with you. Yeah, yeah, it's just look, 874 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm a Star Wars nerd. So the more the better, right, Yeah, 875 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: there's gonna be some I wouldn't say duds, but some 876 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: are off. The part that one was not up, it 877 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,760 Speaker 1: was okay, it was fun. I go see it again. 878 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: Really because it's Star Wars. I wouldn't Yeah, it's Star 879 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 1: Wars for me. They gotta make They're gonna make two 880 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,840 Speaker 1: more of those movies, though. I want to see the 881 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: job of the Hut one the way they know, the 882 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: way Solo ended. I meant so, they're gonna make two 883 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 1: more solo movies. Boba Fatt has one. I think it's 884 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 1: going to be a solo movie. Oh is it? I 885 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: think so? And who's the other one? I don't know? 886 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, I know they signed up Alden Aaron Rank. 887 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 1: Is that what his name is? I don't know. I 888 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 1: don't quite know. He's the guy who's playing Han Solo. 889 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 1: Oh that guy. Yeah, I don't quite know how to 890 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 1: pronounce his name. Maybe that's the problem. I'm still looking 891 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: at Harrison Ford ass and I know that that's my 892 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 1: problem with it. Yeah, that's a problem, And because like 893 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,800 Speaker 1: he's not Harrison Ford. And I love the way Harrison 894 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 1: Ford plays that character, and I and it's kind of 895 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 1: not fair for me as an audience member to like 896 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 1: put that on on him. But there was the two westerns. 897 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: They had the dueling westerns way Back, Tombstone and Wide 898 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 1: earp Right, if you could switch Doc Holidays, I think 899 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 1: you'd have a great movie. I'm not so sure about 900 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 1: this Han solo, but I love that Lando Calorizian, Yeah, oh, 901 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,439 Speaker 1: I thought he was fantastic. Donald Glover is like done 902 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 1: so many things lately. Yeah, you watch Atlanta? I have 903 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 1: barely small? Yes, good worth it? Yeah, definitely I have not. 904 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: People say it's the best show on TV. I don't 905 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: know about all that. We don't have a three year 906 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: old at home asking for bubble guppies every other five minutes. 907 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,799 Speaker 1: I don't know what that is. And I don't think 908 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: Googles and the Wiggles. Yeah, no to Chugga Chugga big 909 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 1: red cars and that the wiggles. That's my life. I 910 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 1: don't know why. I know that. I can't watch anything 911 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: rated art at my house. Wow, yeah, nothing, that must 912 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,760 Speaker 1: be at my house. Yeah. Everything is PG or below. 913 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,919 Speaker 1: Huh yeah, well, I mean like there's clear benefits to that. Yeah, 914 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,319 Speaker 1: my seventeen year old has seen more rated art movies 915 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 1: than I am. Oh yeah, I know. It sucks. She 916 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 1: going with boys? Are you like? No, God, no, crazy, No, 917 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 1: i'man at home miles at home. Yeah, I thought even 918 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 1: like going to the movie. No, we don't do that anyway, 919 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: we don't do that. M So this weekend I did 920 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 1: get to go up to Berkeley, California, which it was fun. Yeah. 921 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: We were there for Jared Goff's annual um they called 922 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,320 Speaker 1: the Jared Goff Summer Classic. It's like a seven on 923 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 1: seven flag football challenge. Nice. Um. So he does little 924 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: kids and they're like there, I think about three hundred 925 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,799 Speaker 1: this year, up from last year. Last year they did 926 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: it at the high school at his high school, Jared's 927 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 1: high school ri in Catholic. This year it was at 928 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 1: cal Berkeley School. Yeah yeah, oh yeah. But it was 929 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,800 Speaker 1: really cool to be able to kind of do that 930 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,399 Speaker 1: with Jared and we got a lot of content that'll 931 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 1: be on an episode of Behind the Grind coming out 932 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 1: in July. Got a really good interview with him as well, 933 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,839 Speaker 1: and it was just it was cool to see him 934 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 1: in that environment. And I don't know how many people 935 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 1: remember this, but we kind of did the same sort 936 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 1: of feature last year, going up to Marine Catholic and 937 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 1: doing the camp and doing an interview with him, and 938 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,399 Speaker 1: we also interviewed this high school coaches, high school football coach, 939 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 1: and then his parents too, And I think the first 940 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 1: that high school coaches first pro got to be the 941 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 1: first first pick he's ever had. Yes, definitely. I don't 942 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: know if it's his first pro because that's a good program. 943 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure they've turned out some pros. Yeah, yeah, but 944 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 1: they're they're a good program. But I think it was 945 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 1: just interesting the difference in the features that are going 946 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 1: to come out of that. You know, last year it 947 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 1: was kind of we need these people to tell us 948 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 1: how good Jared Goff is, right, and we were sort 949 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 1: of doing the high school story right because look, the 950 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen was what it was. Everybody saw it, right, Yes, 951 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 1: so we all kind of figured that it would be better, 952 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 1: but you know, it was good to hear that from 953 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: people who were very close to him. Now, I think 954 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 1: this is sort of part two to that, you know, 955 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 1: and it's more or less we know how good Jared is. 956 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 1: Jared's proved it, and now Jared can kind of tell 957 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,800 Speaker 1: us what it is, and you know what he was 958 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 1: doing in college and how he led up to being 959 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,759 Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. So I like this better 960 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 1: than the patch quarterback deal. I mean, I don't know patchwork. 961 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:04,799 Speaker 1: I mean you bring a guy in for a year 962 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,479 Speaker 1: and a half and then he's gone and you switch 963 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 1: to the next guy and he's gone after your doing. 964 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 1: This is going to be fun to watch this guy grow. 965 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 1: To watch it's already it's been fun to watch him 966 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 1: grow from like you said, wide eyed rookie, too firmly 967 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 1: established pro Bowl veteran type guy. And then the next 968 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 1: five years what's that going to bring? Right? Yeah, it's 969 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 1: gonna be fun watching him transform and the team around 970 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,799 Speaker 1: him and the entire fan base because, like we mentioned, 971 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,319 Speaker 1: the stadium is also getting built. Yes, that's gonna be fun. 972 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 1: Absolute the house that golf built. Yeah, and it's it's 973 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: bigger than any other prose about that, Yeah, but it was. 974 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: It was really it was cool being able to do 975 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 1: that and seeing Jared interrapt with the kids and actually 976 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 1: Tyler Higby was there really yeah yeah, so, um, like golf, 977 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,280 Speaker 1: take it easy on the kids. I worry about Higbee. 978 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,839 Speaker 1: That guy only knows one speed. No, no, he did. 979 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 1: He was fine. Okay, maybe he was hanging around us 980 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 1: a lot, but like it was funny because Tyler Higby 981 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 1: was sort of helping us carry equipment around. Is like 982 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 1: our guys were filming and so like he called. We 983 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,799 Speaker 1: were like, oh, like, Tyler, you're basically the best boy. 984 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 1: He was like, oh, yeah, the best Buy. Do you 985 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,280 Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, go out five 986 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:19,399 Speaker 1: catch packs. Yeah, I got his Chick fil A nice. 987 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 1: Always appreciate that. Always a way to guys. Yes, absolutely, 988 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 1: So how are you going to tell or how are 989 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,919 Speaker 1: you going to spend the time off the break six? 990 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,399 Speaker 1: I got a bunch of video I have to get 991 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,920 Speaker 1: back to. Um. I like to go through two seasons 992 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 1: leading up into the current season. Yeah, just to see 993 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 1: especially like not looking through the rams lens, yeah, looking 994 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,880 Speaker 1: through the other team. So meaning what like how are 995 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: you going to watch this film? Like I'll like when 996 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,240 Speaker 1: I get back home. I'll finish Seattle like I'm two thousand. 997 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 1: I'm at the end of two thousand and fifteen Seattle. 998 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 1: So you're what weight you're watching Seattle season or you're 999 00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,799 Speaker 1: watching the Seattle game entire season, every single snap? Wow? Yeah, 1000 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 1: just to see how things grow, how many players they 1001 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,319 Speaker 1: come back to, what they've thrown out, what they how 1002 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 1: they've tried to do X, Y and Z. And then 1003 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 1: once you go through as many teams as you can, 1004 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 1: especially the teams that are on the roster, by the 1005 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,120 Speaker 1: time you kick off, you know both sides, you can 1006 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 1: pretty much predict where they're going and who they're going 1007 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 1: to attack and why. So it just makes for a 1008 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: better one. Should watch film back, No, man, you'll mess 1009 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 1: up my flow. Man. Yeah. Well yeah, oh but that's 1010 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 1: really interesting. Um what do you think? What what have 1011 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 1: you learned in terms of Seattle? Just going back there, 1012 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,319 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson has gotten a whole lot better. Yeah, yeah, 1013 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,799 Speaker 1: he's gotten a whole lot better as a quarterback. Um, 1014 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 1: being smarter with the football, the scrambling stuff has always 1015 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,759 Speaker 1: been him, right, you'll what you saw last season, He's 1016 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 1: always done that. Yeah. Yeah, the play calls were shorter 1017 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 1: for him. Um, and he had more outs. Now he's 1018 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 1: got way more leeway. He's running the show. And it's 1019 00:49:55,880 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 1: painfully obvious. Um, the little things between the plays, guys 1020 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 1: helping him up, walking back to the sideline, where is 1021 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 1: his communication going? All that stuff has changed. So he 1022 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 1: looks now like Aaron Rodgers looks. It's his show. It's 1023 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 1: it is, it's his show. Those are big words. It's 1024 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 1: the truth. I mean, that's where Jared Goff is headed. Okay, 1025 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,360 Speaker 1: that's where guys like Matt Ryan all of a sudden 1026 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,800 Speaker 1: showed up. When he went from a guy that couldn't 1027 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 1: win in the playoffs to a Super Bowl quarterback. It 1028 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,279 Speaker 1: changes overnight. It becomes your show. When you have that, 1029 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 1: you're a championship team. That's true, all right? Well, any 1030 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,919 Speaker 1: other parting shots before the people go see the Incredibles man, Yeah, 1031 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 1: and leave the Star Wars fans alone. I'm new to this. 1032 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,040 Speaker 1: You weren't born when the first one came out, So 1033 00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,239 Speaker 1: don't you don't have the right to dis a Star 1034 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,920 Speaker 1: Wars movie. First, Just pay your money, eat your popcorn, 1035 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 1: watch the movie, and go home and have a hot 1036 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 1: dog with mustard. You threw that in there, Yeah, yeah 1037 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 1: I did. Yeah. Were you born when the first Star 1038 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 1: Wars came out? Close your mouth? Thank you? Were you? Yeah? 1039 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,759 Speaker 1: Of course I will in this room. Hey, everybody, thanks 1040 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 1: so much for getting into this edition of Between the Horns. Hey, 1041 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 1: if you have not checked out the new the rams 1042 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,960 Speaker 1: dot com, that website is now up. It is totally 1043 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,759 Speaker 1: redone and you look fantastic, man, Yeah, yeah it are 1044 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 1: you crazy? There's the rams dot Com back Slash podcast. 1045 00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,840 Speaker 1: That's where you can subscribe and watch this podcast in 1046 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,239 Speaker 1: our other podcasts that is now RAMS Playbooks going to 1047 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 1: be interviews with your favorite players and coaches about what 1048 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,399 Speaker 1: they're doing on the field. So make sure you watch 1049 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 1: and subscribe that to that um for DeMarco far I 1050 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,239 Speaker 1: am Miles Simmons. I think that's all we've got. You 1051 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,759 Speaker 1: never give a party shot. You always make me give one. 1052 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:42,760 Speaker 1: I do. Isn't that? Isn't that brilliant strategy? Right by people? Goodbye,