Speaker 1: Q and On is the world's largest online political conspiracy movement.
Speaker 1: Followers believe someone code named Q is provided them with
Speaker 1: secret information from inside the White House. No one really
Speaker 1: knows the real identity of Q, though we aim to
Speaker 1: change that. I'm Jake Hanrahan and this is Q Clearance
Speaker 1: podcast series aimed at unmasking the true identity of Q.
Speaker 1: This is brought to you by IR Radio and Q
Speaker 1: Dayta Media. In this episode, episode three, which is a
Speaker 1: bit of a two potter, we're going to be looking
Speaker 1: at q and On's initial birth on for chan and
Speaker 1: how things began to change once he moved to a Chan.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to go back and forth a little
Speaker 1: bit for this to all makes sense, but trust me
Speaker 1: on this. It will set up the much needed groundwork
Speaker 1: for later episodes and revelations. So let's go back again
Speaker 1: to October twenty ev team. Remember that's when Q posted
Speaker 1: his first ever drop on four Chan. Along with the
Speaker 1: one saying Hillary Clinton would soon be arrested, which we've
Speaker 1: already mentioned in previous episodes, there was this bit of
Speaker 1: information quote HRC extradition already in motion effective yesterday with
Speaker 1: several countries in case of cross border run passport proved
Speaker 1: to be flagged effective ten slash thirty at twelve oh one,
Speaker 1: A M expect massive rights organized in defiance and other
Speaker 1: fleeing the US to occur. U s m S will
Speaker 1: conduct the operation while energy activated. Proof check, locate an
Speaker 1: MG member and ask if activated for duty. Ten slash
Speaker 1: thirty across most major cities. End quote. Another one of
Speaker 1: the first drops attributed to Q Reid's quote, potus will
Speaker 1: not go on TV to address the nation, and potus
Speaker 1: knew removing criminal rogue elements as the first step was
Speaker 1: essential to free and pass legislation. End quote. Now before
Speaker 1: we dive into y, Q and A migrated to h
Speaker 1: N after those initial posts got traction. I just want
Speaker 1: to skip forward a minute to look at a recent
Speaker 1: QUE drop. The content isn't exactly important, but let's just
Speaker 1: compare the original que drops. I just read to this
Speaker 1: one that was published this month on October seven, Q
Speaker 1: quote do you remember when the media had wall to
Speaker 1: wall living fear coverage re n K? Do you remember
Speaker 1: when Hawaii accidentally sounded the incoming missile alarm? What happened?
Speaker 1: NK no longer a nuclear threat? Mounting collapse China seeking
Speaker 1: NK commitments of fire short long range ballistic missiles pre election.
Speaker 1: Q end quote. Now, maybe I'm just not enlightened enough
Speaker 1: to understand what qu is talking about fully here, but
Speaker 1: one thing I think is obvious is the change of
Speaker 1: writing style. In the first drops, Que was on points,
Speaker 1: certain of what was about to happen. As you heard,
Speaker 1: he made failed predictions with dates, times, everything. Now he
Speaker 1: spews these vague, do it yourself jigsaw statements that often
Speaker 1: have no relevance to what's actually going on week to week.
Speaker 1: Q and on has been growing and growing now for
Speaker 1: three years, so it's of course possible that he just
Speaker 1: eased into his position, got comfortable, refined his language. It's
Speaker 1: also quite possible, though, that someone else took o overt
Speaker 1: and change the writing style. Anyway, keep that in your
Speaker 1: mind as we go forward. So Q and on posts
Speaker 1: originally sprung up in a thread on one of four
Speaker 1: chan's political boards known as Pole or the Politically Incorrect Board,
Speaker 1: which is overwhelmingly populated with neo Nazis, white nationalists, and
Speaker 1: various other stripes of fascist ideology. To read poll frankly
Speaker 1: is to rot your brain, so naturally that's where The
Speaker 1: first que post appeared as replies in a thread titled
Speaker 1: Mula investigation. That thread was basically a comment on how
Speaker 1: US right wing news pundits were smiling about the Munal
Speaker 1: investigation rather than looking worried. The reaction from Pole users
Speaker 1: to the que post back then was at first a
Speaker 1: collective site, a sort of oh no, not this ship again.
Speaker 1: That's because the essence of what Q and on does
Speaker 1: is actually nothing new. It's just the most successful version
Speaker 1: of a genre of bullshit Internet hoaxes known as insider
Speaker 1: and on. Travis view of the Q and on Anonymous
Speaker 1: podcast explains this. What's really interesting about Q and on
Speaker 1: is that this is part of a kind of tradition
Speaker 1: or a kind of a genre of posts within the
Speaker 1: within four champ. I mean, they're called they's called these
Speaker 1: insider and nce, and very frequently someone would show up
Speaker 1: to the poll board on four chat or whatever and
Speaker 1: they would claim to be someone who's deep inside government.
Speaker 1: They would uh, you know. One example, as before Q
Speaker 1: and on is that there was someone called mega ann
Speaker 1: who claimed to have insider information about mega upload and
Speaker 1: its owner Kim dot com, or there was there in
Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen, there's one called fbi ann who claimed
Speaker 1: to have information about Hillary Clinton. Supposedly. They claim baselessly
Speaker 1: that they have some kind of insider informations. There's something
Speaker 1: that happens frequently. What makes Q and a unique is
Speaker 1: that it's the first one that kind of like burst
Speaker 1: out of the chance and into wider social networks. And
Speaker 1: and eazy is even sort of referenced by the President.
Speaker 1: This Q and on began to grow on Fortune topics
Speaker 1: spread rapidly across Pole. They didn't have their own board
Speaker 1: to post on, so they swam in the same stream
Speaker 1: as the neo fascists. It's correct that Q and on
Speaker 1: initially gained the following on Fortune, but as we know,
Speaker 1: it later began to spill over into the world outside
Speaker 1: of the Internet. People start attending pro Trump rallies with
Speaker 1: Q and on placards and Q and on t shirts.
Speaker 1: Facebook and YouTube were both flooded with Q content, and
Speaker 1: one Florida SWAT officer was even seen with a Q
Speaker 1: patch attached to his chest rig when meeting with the
Speaker 1: Vice President Mike Pence. Q didn't remain simply the newest
Speaker 1: strain of a four Chan insider and on for long.
Speaker 1: In fact, they were only on four Chan for about
Speaker 1: two months in before they had to find a new
Speaker 1: place to nest. Now, despite this idea often to out
Speaker 1: within the media that there are no rules on four Chan,
Speaker 1: there actually are. That's not to say four Chan is
Speaker 1: a good place that's well regulated or anything like that,
Speaker 1: but there are some rules. Raiding other groups or websites,
Speaker 1: for example, is prohibited. Q and On's constant pylon of
Speaker 1: anyone against their movement effectively broke this rule for some
Speaker 1: of the four Chan moderators. Frederick Brennan, the founder of
Speaker 1: h Chan, claims that the q and ons were booted
Speaker 1: from chann. Fortune is explicitly anti Q. The reason they
Speaker 1: had to leave Fortune because it became a real world movement.
Speaker 1: They got kicked off. You know, um here you canu
Speaker 1: mora owner of Fortune is not running a superpack called
Speaker 1: this on the deep state back you know, um he
Speaker 1: he has done everything to try to get rid of Q.
Speaker 1: You know that he is in his power. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: it did start unfortunate, but Fortune did everything to get
Speaker 1: rid of it. Like they've done a better job than
Speaker 1: Facebook and Twitter, you know, to get rid of Q
Speaker 1: on their platform. Q is basically a nonentity on their
Speaker 1: platform today. So the only time I found Q and
Speaker 1: on mentioned recently on for Chune when doing research for
Speaker 1: this episode was when people derided the movement or accused
Speaker 1: someone of being a Q and on follower. If the
Speaker 1: posts reflected that so effectively, Yeah, q and on is
Speaker 1: still an aug topic on Fortune now. The Q and
Speaker 1: On's generally refute that they were kicked off of Forchune.
Speaker 1: They say they left after the password for the Q
Speaker 1: account on four Chune was cracked and people began posting
Speaker 1: all sorts of nonsense and jokes under the Q no Monica.
Speaker 1: Q announced that four chan was compromised, and so they
Speaker 1: surfed around for a new home. That's when they found
Speaker 1: Frederick Brennan's h n in late aboard much easier to customize.
Speaker 1: Let's say you're a four Chan user and a topic
Speaker 1: comes up on four Chan and you all want to
Speaker 1: go discuss it, right, you have to use one of
Speaker 1: the existing boards that are there, like q for example,
Speaker 1: they had to use the Politics board because there's no
Speaker 1: way for them to get their own board. But h
Speaker 1: Chan in the beginning, at least, you know, was self service.
Speaker 1: You put in the name of the board you want,
Speaker 1: you put in a user name, a password, and email,
Speaker 1: and it's entirely kind of self service. I don't need
Speaker 1: to do anything. Uh, you can just get set up
Speaker 1: by yourself. Some of you might be sitting there thinking, well,
Speaker 1: fuck this guy. He allowed you and on on his platform. Well,
Speaker 1: like I said, he didn't exactly open the door to them.
Speaker 1: It was already open. Anyone could join h chan and
Speaker 1: create a board. You didn't need to ask permission, you
Speaker 1: already had it. Q and On's had permission to be
Speaker 1: there by the default of the ethos of the way
Speaker 1: the site was run. I think it's fair to mention
Speaker 1: here again as well, that Frederick Brennan did everything he
Speaker 1: could to get h and shut down and raise awareness
Speaker 1: about hoaxes like Q and on after he quit, when
Speaker 1: his creation became a kind of Frankenstein's monster of what
Speaker 1: it was intended to be. It was never a nice
Speaker 1: place to be, but it wasn't intended to be this
Speaker 1: springboard for deep deep Internet hoaxes like Q and On.
Speaker 1: Some people find Brennan to be riding on an angry
Speaker 1: vendetta against the Watkins family, the people who fucked him
Speaker 1: over and became the new owners of h CHAN, which
Speaker 1: we will get to in another episode. I've had people
Speaker 1: tell me brendan stance against it all is disingenuous for
Speaker 1: that reason. I mentioned this for transparency's sake, so you
Speaker 1: can make your own mind up. But for what it's worth,
Speaker 1: I disagree with the people who say that. I believe
Speaker 1: what Brendan is saying, and in all the correspondence I've
Speaker 1: had with him, he's been very straightforward about what he
Speaker 1: does and doesn't know. So on Brendan's h n Q
Speaker 1: and on really began to make its nest. They were
Speaker 1: able to have their own board, which was created by
Speaker 1: a man named Paul furber There's an excellent reply all
Speaker 1: podcast episode mostly about this guy that you should definitely
Speaker 1: check out. He has refused to speak to us as
Speaker 1: he did with them, but we're going to go into
Speaker 1: his role with in qun on anyway. So who is
Speaker 1: Paul Furber? Well? On his Twitter account, where he has
Speaker 1: more than twenty five thousand followers, he claims to be
Speaker 1: a journalist, a programmer, an artist, a musician, a pilot,
Speaker 1: a teacher, a luthia, a biker, a Christian, and a
Speaker 1: medicine seller whatever that means. What further actually is is
Speaker 1: a hardcore conspiracy theorist from South Africa that spreads some
Speaker 1: of the most far fetched bullshit you've ever seen on
Speaker 1: the Internet. Recently, for example, he was theorizing on Twitter
Speaker 1: that Joe Biden had been replaced with a body double
Speaker 1: or a clone. This guy is either insane, grift ing,
Speaker 1: or a mix of the two. Personally, I think it's
Speaker 1: the latter. Paul Furber also states in his bio on
Speaker 1: Twitter that he was the owner of the cbt S board.
Speaker 1: CBTs stands for Calm before the Storm, one of Q
Speaker 1: and On's many slogans, the CBTs board was the one
Speaker 1: created by Furber on the h chan board when Q
Speaker 1: and ons migrated after being booted or leaving for Chan.
Speaker 1: The exclusive reason for CBTs to even exist was for
Speaker 1: all things Q and on. Soon Q posted on Fortune
Speaker 1: saying that he's migrat into a chann. Q started posting
Speaker 1: there on Furber's board, where they wouldn't all get chased
Speaker 1: out by the mods like they did on Fortune. Now,
Speaker 1: remember I spoke about the trip codes of the trip
Speaker 1: code from four Channe was the same on h and
Speaker 1: the trip code is what identifies the anonymous user. The
Speaker 1: trip codes do change, they do get corracked. Well, speak
Speaker 1: about that later on, But at this point people were
Speaker 1: happy to believe that Q had moved from Fortune onto
Speaker 1: a Chan. I spoke to Frank Brennan about Paul Furber's
Speaker 1: role within Q and On at this point. There are
Speaker 1: a lot of reasons to believe that Paul was one
Speaker 1: of the people originally positing as QUE for sure, because
Speaker 1: he has that same kind of writing style and that
Speaker 1: same kind of vivid imagination, and so in the very beginning,
Speaker 1: when there was no trip code, it was probably passed
Speaker 1: between a few different people. It's really hard to say
Speaker 1: how many people it was passed between. I definitely think
Speaker 1: that he was always very involved in in Q. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, he definitely wanted to become famous of of Q,
Speaker 1: and in some ways he did for a while. Further
Speaker 1: became a sort of unofficial spokesman for the Q and
Speaker 1: On movement. He was Que's biggest advocate at the time.
Speaker 1: He'd got onto Info Wars to talk about the elusive
Speaker 1: Q and On plan. He'd spend all day trying to
Speaker 1: red pill anyone he could about Q, and he was
Speaker 1: eventually looked to by many in the community as Que's
Speaker 1: right hand man. After all, Furber was the owner of
Speaker 1: the office where Q came to work the CBTs board
Speaker 1: on h Chan. Furber was also the guy who would
Speaker 1: verify that Q was in fact Q via the trip coats.
Speaker 1: I think the pull furb was involved with Q from
Speaker 1: the start on four chant, or at the very least,
Speaker 1: he took control of Q as it migrated from four
Speaker 1: chan to h chan. He began posting his cue, spreading
Speaker 1: the same conspiracy theories he'd been screaming into the ether
Speaker 1: online for years. Furber was wrapped up into the center
Speaker 1: of the movement as it thrived on h Chan, and
Speaker 1: as Frederick Brennan just said, it kind of made him famous.
Speaker 1: At least within this strange conspiracy internet bubble. Furber was
Speaker 1: completely and utterly on board with Q and on until
Speaker 1: he says the account was hijacked and taken over by
Speaker 1: somebody else. Furber has said that he thinks who ever
Speaker 1: had it before this hijacking was genuinely leaking information from
Speaker 1: intelligence from the US government. He now thinks afterwards, now
Speaker 1: that it's hijacked, someone else is making fake information up.
Speaker 1: I think that's a very interesting claim. Remember, if Furber
Speaker 1: was behind this, he can't exactly claim it. If he says, yeah,
Speaker 1: actually it was me, the whole life falls apart. Now
Speaker 1: we're going to cover the hijacking in the next episode,
Speaker 1: but just keep in mind Paul is one part of
Speaker 1: the web of people that are possibly behind Q and On.
Speaker 1: We haven't cracked the case yet, but certainly I think
Speaker 1: this is a very good lead. Before we wrap this
Speaker 1: episode up, I want to go over something I was
Speaker 1: sent recently by another que researcher. It's a video by
Speaker 1: a guy called Steve Pachenk. Other Q researchers I've spoken
Speaker 1: to about this aren't particularly interested in it, but it
Speaker 1: seems fishy to me on some level, as it did
Speaker 1: to the guy who sent me it. Have a listen.
Speaker 1: And November one, two thousand sixteen, Hillary and Bill Clinton
Speaker 1: and their entourage of assistance affected a civilian coup. In
Speaker 1: contrast to the usual concept of a coup where the
Speaker 1: military is involved and takes over the White House and
Speaker 1: can munication centers, very much like the scenarios you see
Speaker 1: in a movie, this coup was done silently and very
Speaker 1: effectively through two methods. Corruption, and cooptation. The Clintons have
Speaker 1: been involved in co opting our White House, our judiciary,
Speaker 1: our CIA, our Federal Bureau of Investigation. In order to
Speaker 1: stop this coup, we in the intelligence community and others
Speaker 1: involved have informally gotten together and with their permission, I
Speaker 1: am beginning to announce that we've initiated a counter coup.
Speaker 1: We're going to to stop you from making Hillary the
Speaker 1: president of the United States, and at the same time,
Speaker 1: we will convict and indict the President of the United States,
Speaker 1: Loretta Lynch, and many others who were involved in the
Speaker 1: cover up of the massive corruption that occurred under the
Speaker 1: Clinton Foundation. So, as you just heard, Patchennik is making
Speaker 1: this wild claim that the Clintons are operating a deep
Speaker 1: stake who and the secret members of the U. S
Speaker 1: Intelligence community are trying to stop It sounds a lot
Speaker 1: like Queues first posts on four chant. Remember we went
Speaker 1: over them at the beginning. Well. This video by Steve
Speaker 1: Pochenick was published on November one, a year before the
Speaker 1: first ever Q drop. So who is Steve Pochenick? On
Speaker 1: his website, he says that he was the principal international
Speaker 1: crisis manager and hostage negotiator under Henry Kissinger. He claims
Speaker 1: to be that and an action adventure spy thriller author
Speaker 1: working with people like Tom Clancy. As far as I
Speaker 1: see it, Pochenck is your archetypal right wing conspiracy theorist
Speaker 1: and political US Boomer commentator. He enjoys airtime on Alex
Speaker 1: Jones Infools, where he claims him and his network helped
Speaker 1: to get Trump elected. He is a die hard MAGA
Speaker 1: operative here he is speaking to for wars in much
Speaker 1: of this year. But let me ask you this, because
Speaker 1: to the to the general population and to the layman
Speaker 1: out there, it looks like, now, this is the storm
Speaker 1: about to hit. So I think the average American asked, now,
Speaker 1: what is the deep state response to them about to
Speaker 1: be exposed fully and perhaps even put in jail sober Basically,
Speaker 1: we're not even answering it because it's so childish, so immature,
Speaker 1: so ineffectual, that this is the reason why we were
Speaker 1: able to be so successful. Now, I don't actually think
Speaker 1: that Steve Pochenick was behind the initial que drops on fortune,
Speaker 1: but he's certainly within the Q and On universe now
Speaker 1: and could have inadvertently influenced whoever the first que post awards.
Speaker 1: With the things he said in these videos, It's perhaps
Speaker 1: worth noting as well that both Pulled Furber and Steve
Speaker 1: Pochenic follow each other on Twitter, and that Furber has
Speaker 1: tweeted in praise of Pochenic on several occasions. They're both
Speaker 1: openly invested in anti Semitic conspiracy theories, and they both
Speaker 1: claim to be part of an insider operation. Now, this
Speaker 1: is hardly an unusual meeting of the minds and the
Speaker 1: Q and On universe, but considering po Chenick's Clinton Deep
Speaker 1: State video from I think it's worth mentioning, if nothing else,
Speaker 1: we can see that all these ideas were already out there,
Speaker 1: bubbling in the conspiracy theory part. It just took Q
Speaker 1: and On to bring them all together and launched them
Speaker 1: into the mainstream. It was a team effort, even if
Speaker 1: it wasn't calculated to be one. I think again that
Speaker 1: it's highly likely Paul Ferber used his conspiracy theory influences
Speaker 1: to form the Q drops on h N. He take
Speaker 1: a bit from here, a bit from there, and spin
Speaker 1: it himself with cryptic language and the odd intel phrase
Speaker 1: passed in that is, as I mentioned until his empire
Speaker 1: was stolen from him. Next episode will look at how
Speaker 1: QUE was set adrift once again when HM was shut down,
Speaker 1: will go over Paul Furber's new insider and on claims,
Speaker 1: and we'll also start looking into how we think the
Speaker 1: Q account was hijacked from Paul Furber. Q Clearance is
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Speaker 1: I'm Jake Hanrahan. You can find me online at Jake
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