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Speaker 1: Q and On is the world's largest online political conspiracy movement.

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Speaker 1: Followers believe someone code named Q is provided them with

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Speaker 1: secret information from inside the White House. No one really

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Speaker 1: knows the real identity of Q, though we aim to

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Speaker 1: change that. I'm Jake Hanrahan and this is Q Clearance

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Speaker 1: podcast series aimed at unmasking the true identity of Q.

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Speaker 1: This is brought to you by IR Radio and Q

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Speaker 1: Dayta Media. In this episode, episode three, which is a

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Speaker 1: bit of a two potter, we're going to be looking

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Speaker 1: at q and On's initial birth on for chan and

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Speaker 1: how things began to change once he moved to a Chan.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have to go back and forth a little

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Speaker 1: bit for this to all makes sense, but trust me

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Speaker 1: on this. It will set up the much needed groundwork

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Speaker 1: for later episodes and revelations. So let's go back again

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Speaker 1: to October twenty ev team. Remember that's when Q posted

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Speaker 1: his first ever drop on four Chan. Along with the

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Speaker 1: one saying Hillary Clinton would soon be arrested, which we've

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Speaker 1: already mentioned in previous episodes, there was this bit of

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Speaker 1: information quote HRC extradition already in motion effective yesterday with

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Speaker 1: to be flagged effective ten slash thirty at twelve oh one,

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Speaker 1: A M expect massive rights organized in defiance and other

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Speaker 1: fleeing the US to occur. U s m S will

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Speaker 1: conduct the operation while energy activated. Proof check, locate an

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Speaker 1: thirty across most major cities. End quote. Another one of

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Speaker 1: the first drops attributed to Q Reid's quote, potus will

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Speaker 1: not go on TV to address the nation, and potus

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Speaker 1: knew removing criminal rogue elements as the first step was

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Speaker 1: essential to free and pass legislation. End quote. Now before

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Speaker 1: we dive into y, Q and A migrated to h

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Speaker 1: N after those initial posts got traction. I just want

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Speaker 1: to skip forward a minute to look at a recent

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Speaker 1: QUE drop. The content isn't exactly important, but let's just

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Speaker 1: compare the original que drops. I just read to this

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Speaker 1: one that was published this month on October seven, Q

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Speaker 1: quote do you remember when the media had wall to

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Speaker 1: wall living fear coverage re n K? Do you remember

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Speaker 1: when Hawaii accidentally sounded the incoming missile alarm? What happened?

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Speaker 1: NK no longer a nuclear threat? Mounting collapse China seeking

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Speaker 1: NK commitments of fire short long range ballistic missiles pre election.

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Speaker 1: Q end quote. Now, maybe I'm just not enlightened enough

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Speaker 1: one thing I think is obvious is the change of

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Speaker 1: writing style. In the first drops, Que was on points,

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Speaker 1: certain of what was about to happen. As you heard,

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Speaker 1: he made failed predictions with dates, times, everything. Now he

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Speaker 1: spews these vague, do it yourself jigsaw statements that often

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Speaker 1: have no relevance to what's actually going on week to week.

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Speaker 1: Q and on has been growing and growing now for

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Speaker 1: three years, so it's of course possible that he just

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Speaker 1: eased into his position, got comfortable, refined his language. It's

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Speaker 1: also quite possible, though, that someone else took o overt

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Speaker 1: and change the writing style. Anyway, keep that in your

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Speaker 1: mind as we go forward. So Q and on posts

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Speaker 1: originally sprung up in a thread on one of four

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Speaker 1: chan's political boards known as Pole or the Politically Incorrect Board,

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Speaker 1: which is overwhelmingly populated with neo Nazis, white nationalists, and

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Speaker 1: first que post appeared as replies in a thread titled

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Speaker 1: Mula investigation. That thread was basically a comment on how

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Speaker 1: investigation rather than looking worried. The reaction from Pole users

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Speaker 1: That's because the essence of what Q and on does

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Speaker 1: is actually nothing new. It's just the most successful version

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Speaker 1: of a genre of bullshit Internet hoaxes known as insider

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Speaker 1: Vice President Mike Pence. Q didn't remain simply the newest

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Speaker 1: In fact, they were only on four Chan for about

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Speaker 1: anyone against their movement effectively broke this rule for some

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Speaker 1: You know that he is in his power. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: Some people find Brennan to be riding on an angry

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Speaker 1: CBTs stands for Calm before the Storm, one of Q

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Speaker 1: The exclusive reason for CBTs to even exist was for

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Speaker 1: the trip code is what identifies the anonymous user. The

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Speaker 1: trip codes do change, they do get corracked. Well, speak

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