Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to ookf Daily with me
Speaker 1: your girl Daniel Moody recording from the Home Bunker. I'm
Speaker 1: recording this on Juneteenth, and you know you'll listen to
Speaker 1: this tomorrow. And I just have some thoughts to get
Speaker 1: off my chest about Juneteenth being a federal holiday. And
Speaker 1: I posted a video yesterday saying that, like, I'm not
Speaker 1: feeling Juneteenth as a federal holiday, and the reason being
Speaker 1: is because I don't think that white people and non
Speaker 1: black people, who there is no curriculum that was created,
Speaker 1: have no understanding whatsoever, just get another day off. It
Speaker 1: means absolutely nothing. And I'm tired of living inside of
Speaker 1: a country that, instead of providing equity and justice for
Speaker 1: black people who have been exploited, abused, murdered, lynched, raped, beaten, subjugated,
Speaker 1: and oppressed for you know, damn near a millennial, that
Speaker 1: instead of providing us with the justice that would look
Speaker 1: like reparations in a number of ways, reparations doesn't look
Speaker 1: like money, it looks like a whole lot of things. Instead,
Speaker 1: just throw a fucking holiday our way. And this is
Speaker 1: the same holiday that, oh yeah, the state of Florida
Speaker 1: gets to take off while they go ahead and ban
Speaker 1: quote unquote critical race theory and ban books and banned
Speaker 1: curriculum and fire teachers. So it's like, what are we
Speaker 1: really learning here? Right? Like what are we really learning? Nothing?
Speaker 1: And that's the point, right, The point is to pacify, right,
Speaker 1: Not to create critical thought, not to make amends for
Speaker 1: past brutality. It is to pacify. And so I do
Speaker 1: have deep feelings about this holiday and the way that
Speaker 1: it was introduced after the murder of George Floyd in
Speaker 1: thinking that somehow the leaders of this country are doing
Speaker 1: something so that they can pat themselves on the fucking
Speaker 1: back about it, doing what exactly? Because I'll tell you
Speaker 1: that the last surviving witnesses to the Tulsa massacre that
Speaker 1: happened over one hundred years ago were just denied a
Speaker 1: hearing in court at the Oklahoma Supreme Court. So they
Speaker 1: will die having had no reparations for state sensioned and
Speaker 1: federally senioned mob violence that killed over three hundred people
Speaker 1: and destroyed an entire fucking town. And those people got nothing,
Speaker 1: and one hundred years later, we still do nothing for them.
Speaker 1: So what is a holiday? It means nothing without any context,
Speaker 1: without any curriculum, without any thoughtfulness whatsoever. So for me,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm over it. I will not use this
Speaker 1: day as a day to educate others. I will not
Speaker 1: use it as a day to provide infographics on this, that,
Speaker 1: and the fucking other thing. Like I want white people
Speaker 1: and non black people in this country to be curious,
Speaker 1: to be intellectually fucking curious, and be rigorous about learning
Speaker 1: and unlearning so that we can forge a better future
Speaker 1: because I don't see how we do it, because I
Speaker 1: sure as fuck am tired of pulling people along. Coming
Speaker 1: up next, my conversation with our friend, our in house doctor,
Speaker 1: doctor Jonathan metzil Well. Jonathan and I talk about a
Speaker 1: range of things today, mostly in the fact that I'm
Speaker 1: just like you know, it's summer. I am in a
Speaker 1: place where I'm just like I need a break. I
Speaker 1: need a mental break, I need a physical break. I
Speaker 1: need all of the breaks, as I'm certain that all
Speaker 1: of you do as well. And so how to balance
Speaker 1: out the need and the desire to slow down when
Speaker 1: the news cycle and the world around us continues to
Speaker 1: spin out of control. That conversation is coming up next, folks.
Speaker 1: You know that whenever we have the opportunity to sit
Speaker 1: down with our in house doctor, doctor Jonathan mepsl I
Speaker 1: am always thrilled and Jonathan today what is on my mind?
Speaker 1: What is on my mind is that it's summer. It's
Speaker 1: nice outside, and like, I don't want to talk about
Speaker 1: the end of the world every single day all day.
Speaker 1: I want to, you know, just some days. I want
Speaker 1: to pretend is that healthy? Is that? Is that Okay?
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm happy to pretend there's something I was to
Speaker 2: ask you. But we can also pretend to.
Speaker 1: No ask me, ask me whatever, ask me whatever you'd like.
Speaker 2: Well, first, it's lovely out. I love summer. I love
Speaker 2: all the puppies and the daffodils on all that stuff.
Speaker 2: So no worries there. We can talk about summer trips
Speaker 2: or vacations or fun stuff. We could talk about summer reads,
Speaker 2: or we could talk about Donald Trump campaign targeting Black
Speaker 2: Americans and how you feel about it.
Speaker 1: Well, here are my quick summer plans. I don't often
Speaker 1: leave New York in summer because I think that summer
Speaker 1: in New York is beautiful and it's the best time
Speaker 1: to be here. And so I will be doing a
Speaker 1: lot of trips out east and just kicking it with
Speaker 1: my fam on Long Island. As it pertains to Donald
Speaker 1: Trump and his push for black voters, you know he
Speaker 1: was in New York. He was in New York a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago up in the Bronx at a
Speaker 1: rally that they couldn't get anybody too, so I think
Speaker 1: they paid people to attend. He was recently at a
Speaker 1: black church where the attendees were not members of the
Speaker 1: congregation of that church, nor could the preacher that leads
Speaker 1: that church. When he went out to try and get
Speaker 1: people to come in, they laughed in his face. But nonetheless,
Speaker 1: I think it was in Michigan. They did a call
Speaker 1: to the GOP out there and so a bunch of
Speaker 1: white people showed up in blacks for Trump T shirts.
Speaker 1: Irony is not lost on them at all. So what
Speaker 1: do I think about Donald Trump's push. I think it's
Speaker 1: like most things that Donald Trump pushes. I think it's fraudulent.
Speaker 1: I think it's a lie, just as I think it
Speaker 1: was Kelly and Conway that was on Fox News that
Speaker 1: said that there were eight thousand people there at the church,
Speaker 1: a church, by the way, that only holds several hundred.
Speaker 1: But you know whatever, like if it's going to be
Speaker 1: why not say there were eighty thousand people that were there,
Speaker 1: Because if you're gonna lie, just like make it even bigger.
Speaker 1: So do I think that it's a concerted effort. No?
Speaker 2: Do.
Speaker 1: I think that they will always be a facet of
Speaker 1: the black community and the LATINX community that think that
Speaker 1: their proximity to whiteness will save them and that they
Speaker 1: hold up as the best thing, you know, for them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do. And so those are my thoughts. What did
Speaker 1: you think about the blacks for Trump white people?
Speaker 2: I actually see this. I mean I agree with everything
Speaker 2: you said about like the content of it being farcical,
Speaker 2: but I think it's a pretty serious concern actually for
Speaker 2: a couple of reasons. I mean, one was that we
Speaker 2: just saw more black and Latino voters vote for Trump
Speaker 2: every time he ran, and especially in the last election.
Speaker 2: I think there was a lot of surprise, particularly among
Speaker 2: Latino voters, at the kind of support that Trump was getting.
Speaker 2: But I think that, you know, for me, it's more
Speaker 2: the fifty thousand foot issue that I think a lot
Speaker 2: of people are missing. I mean, absolutely, the thing was farcical,
Speaker 2: and you know, you expected like people to show up
Speaker 2: like dressed like black people, So that.
Speaker 1: Really, I mean, I wouldn't put it past them, So.
Speaker 2: It was that ridiculous. But the two things that I
Speaker 2: think are important to note. Number one was the New
Speaker 2: York rally. It's almost like striking in the heart of
Speaker 2: the opposition territory. So it didn't have to be a
Speaker 2: success for them to call it a success. I don't
Speaker 2: see Biden going to like the heart of red state,
Speaker 2: rural NRA kind of country, which would be at corarel it.
Speaker 2: So I think the very fact that it happened, it
Speaker 2: wasn't so much to try to convince New York black
Speaker 2: voters that they're going to love Trump. It was like
Speaker 2: an op to show this guy is so brave that
Speaker 2: he's actually taking it into the opposition's territory. And so
Speaker 2: I have a feeling I don't know this for sure,
Speaker 2: but I bet it did a lot of work beyond
Speaker 2: like our core audience, the goal wasn't to convince anybody.
Speaker 2: It was to show that Trump is like taking it
Speaker 2: onto other people's turf and suggesting he has brought a appeal.
Speaker 2: So that was concern number one for me about this.
Speaker 2: But the bigger concern for me was actually the thing
Speaker 2: in Detroit, because I actually watched it and it was
Speaker 2: pretty sneaky evil what he was saying actually, because he
Speaker 2: was saying, the Biden policies are bringing in all these
Speaker 2: immigrants who are stealing your jobs basically, And so in
Speaker 2: a way, again, I don't think that massive numbers of
Speaker 2: black voters are going to vote for Trump, but in
Speaker 2: a place like Detroit, where you're already like Michigan, you
Speaker 2: already have arib Americans like really questioning who they're going
Speaker 2: to vote for and things like that, you just to
Speaker 2: be able to peel off enough black voters. And so
Speaker 2: I thought that that message of like, immigrants are stealing
Speaker 2: your jobs, like I've heard that before, because that's what
Speaker 2: they told white voters in my research on dying of whiteness.
Speaker 2: And it turns out like that is a message that
Speaker 2: just really scares the Jesus out of people. And it
Speaker 2: can work like, oh, yeah, this guy's going to save
Speaker 2: my job by stopping competition. That's a fifty year old playlist,
Speaker 2: but it's not in an effective one. And so I
Speaker 2: guess that was my bigger concern again, beyond the farce
Speaker 2: of it, was just the way they're crafting. This seems
Speaker 2: far from random to me and something that I find
Speaker 2: more concerning I think than other people do.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think that anything that they do
Speaker 1: is random, right, I Like, nothing that they do is random.
Speaker 1: Everything is part of the largest strategy. And when your
Speaker 1: strategy is just to lie, like you don't really have
Speaker 1: to prove a lot, right, Like, all you have to
Speaker 1: do is go to the place and show up and
Speaker 1: then lie about the crowds and lie about what it
Speaker 1: is that you're telling them, and lie about what opportunities
Speaker 1: that you're going to provide. And the thing that I
Speaker 1: continue to ask people is like when you look at
Speaker 1: the four years of Donald Trump's administration, like, how did
Speaker 1: you feel? Right? Like, honestly, like, how did you feel?
Speaker 1: How did you feel emotionally? How did you feel physically?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: How did you feel? Because if I'm the Biden administration,
Speaker 1: if I'm any Democrat that's running for office in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four, that's the question that I'm going to be
Speaker 1: asking my voters. How did you feel from twenty seventeen
Speaker 1: until January sixth, twenty twenty one? What was your ongoing
Speaker 1: sentiment in your body, in your heart, in your mind right,
Speaker 1: because I will tell you that for a lot of people,
Speaker 1: it was fear, it was anxiety. It was lots of
Speaker 1: people had lost their jobs, lots of people had lost
Speaker 1: their lives because of that administration. We were just aghast
Speaker 1: at Charlottesville, agast at George Floyd, agast at Donald Trump
Speaker 1: turning the police on peaceful protesters. Like so when I
Speaker 1: see instances like that, it isn't so much about how
Speaker 1: do we come bad and like, oh, doesn't Donald Trump
Speaker 1: look tough? Like yeah, I guess if you're a fucking idiot,
Speaker 1: like I guess if you're looking at the imagery of
Speaker 1: Donald Trump on horseback looking like Sylvester Stallone out of
Speaker 1: nineteen eighties Rambow, and that is your like Christen yeah
Speaker 1: or Putin, and that's your personification of like what masculinity
Speaker 1: should look like. But you don't actually look at what
Speaker 1: Donald Trump looked like in the courthouse in New York City,
Speaker 1: then like, yeah, my whole thing is right now. As
Speaker 1: we were speaking, the Biden administration, the Biden campaign excuse me,
Speaker 1: put out a really great attack ad and it is
Speaker 1: the first attack ad that has come out since the
Speaker 1: thirty four felony convictions that calls Donald Trump a felon,
Speaker 1: that actually says that here's what Donald Trump has done.
Speaker 1: He's been convicted of thirty four felons, he's liable for
Speaker 1: sexual assault, his university was fraudulent, his businesses are fraudulent,
Speaker 1: and he's running a criminal enterprise. So your choice for
Speaker 1: president is a criminal, a convicted criminal, a convicted felon,
Speaker 1: or somebody that is fighting for democracy. Like, those are
Speaker 1: your choices. And that to me was like a really
Speaker 1: important smart ad and I need to see more of it,
Speaker 1: and I need to see it everywhere.
Speaker 2: No, I think that's right because you know, people like
Speaker 2: you and I wear news junkies. We know who are
Speaker 2: going to vote for for the part for the president,
Speaker 2: and then you know the other side, people are very
Speaker 2: very mobilized on the other side. So it's kind of
Speaker 2: like the people who are just now paying attention who
Speaker 2: need like something simple, I think something like that that's like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, it's this or that, it's this or that,
Speaker 2: And I think, you know, because always these elections, it's
Speaker 2: kind of like the people who are just now starting
Speaker 2: to pay attention or won't start paying attention, those are
Speaker 2: the people who are going to decide it. But man,
Speaker 2: the margins are unbelieve It's unbelievable how closely divided all
Speaker 2: of this is right now. And so no, I think
Speaker 2: you're right. Any kind of simple messaging that makes this
Speaker 2: a polarizing choice between one thing or another and overturns
Speaker 2: all this other stuff that's coming out, you know. So yeah,
Speaker 2: so I think that's right. But again I did think again.
Speaker 2: I watched that Detroit rally, the Detroit Church thing, and
Speaker 2: I thought, this guy's not just like flying off the
Speaker 2: handle like he did last time. Actually felt it felt
Speaker 2: much more strategic than I was expecting.
Speaker 1: And that is one strategic speech that Trump gives in
Speaker 1: a sea of one hundred that he has given where
Speaker 1: I actually have am forced to listen to some of
Speaker 1: these clips, I'm and I stopped them thirty seconds in,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, what am I listening to?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: What am I supposed to be looking for here? Because
Speaker 1: this is actually like nonsensical. It doesn't I think it's words,
Speaker 1: but it's definitely not a sentence, and it definitely has
Speaker 1: no context anywhere. And so I think that this election
Speaker 1: is really simple. I actually think that this is one
Speaker 1: of the most simple elections of our time. It is
Speaker 1: you see what the Supreme Court is doing. Joe Biden
Speaker 1: just said this again recently, and I'm like, you need
Speaker 1: to say this everywhere and every time that there's a
Speaker 1: microphone in your face. He's like, if Donald Trump is reelected,
Speaker 1: he is going to have the ability to appoint two
Speaker 1: more Supreme Court justices. Right, the Supreme Court is taking
Speaker 1: away every single rite that was won in the twentieth
Speaker 1: cent entry. I didn't appoint those justices. Donald Trump did
Speaker 1: because we weren't paying attention to the courts the way
Speaker 1: that Leonard Leo and Mitch McConnell and the Republicans have been.
Speaker 1: So do you want a Trump Court for not only
Speaker 1: the rest of your life, but the rest of your
Speaker 1: children's life and the potentially the rest of their children's lives,
Speaker 1: because that's what we're up against. Like, this is not
Speaker 1: fucking rocket science here. I don't need to part and parcel. Well,
Speaker 1: where is Donald Trump on immigration? How does he feel
Speaker 1: about putin in Ukraine? Where will we be you know
Speaker 1: in terms of workers' rights? It's like it's pretty clear.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's funny because when I did the
Speaker 2: dying of whiteness research. And I've said this as zillion
Speaker 2: times in our conversations grassroots, everyday, working class, poor white Americans,
Speaker 2: they all cared about the courts. Even when they were
Speaker 2: being offered their own free healthcare under the Affordable Care Act,
Speaker 2: they would tell me, no, we care about the courts.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was such a top to bottom message
Speaker 2: for Trump supporters and they weren't even Trump supporters yet.
Speaker 2: This was like twenty fourteen. In fact, that's what the
Speaker 2: book I'm writing now is about, is that when in
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, I was doing these focus groups, I didn't
Speaker 2: even understand what people were saying, because I said, hey,
Speaker 2: here's some free healthcare for you and you're sick, and
Speaker 2: people would answer me, I care more than we overturn abortion.
Speaker 2: And I'd be like, what does this have to do
Speaker 2: with your healthcare? But they they kind of saw the
Speaker 2: They saw like people on the ground who like literally
Speaker 2: were trading away their health their health saw the picture.
Speaker 2: And I just say, like, I just always think like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's what it took to get Trump elected. For example,
Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen, was people who rejected Obamacare, because if
Speaker 2: Obamacare would have gone into practice, it would have meant
Speaker 2: Centrists would have taken power and institutions and democracy and cooperation,
Speaker 2: all these things, but they rejected it and dismantled it
Speaker 2: in order to have their own power. And in a way,
Speaker 2: that's the kind of focus it took to get those
Speaker 2: Supreme Court justices, which is people like literally laid down
Speaker 2: on the tracks themselves. And the question is, are democrats
Speaker 2: like that?
Speaker 1: To me?
Speaker 2: That is the only message. You know, you and I've
Speaker 2: been talking about judges for many days hit now, and
Speaker 2: that's kind of what it took to get here. And
Speaker 2: so the question is are Democrats up to the challenge
Speaker 2: of that flip message, which I think is exactly right. Like,
Speaker 2: you know, if you think I don't know, like I don't.
Speaker 2: My driver's license is coming up for renewal. I don't
Speaker 2: have to think about my politics. I just want to
Speaker 2: go to the office and renew my driver's license. And
Speaker 2: then I thought, Man, if Trump's president, I wonder if
Speaker 2: I can get a renewed driver's license. You know, every
Speaker 2: they're going to replace every office with some political appointee,
Speaker 2: and so really the reach of this would just be
Speaker 2: changing in a massive, massive way that people don't get.
Speaker 2: So the question is like, how can you simplify that
Speaker 2: in a way that's like it's a choice bet this
Speaker 2: and this, and that's I agree with you. That's what
Speaker 2: we've got to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a felon, Like, you know, he won't be
Speaker 1: able to vote in this upcoming election for himself, but
Speaker 1: he'll be able to run for office. Yeah, Like, there
Speaker 1: are so many norms that we thought were laws that
Speaker 1: aren't because a Donald Trump presidency should never be able
Speaker 1: to exist. Now that you have thirty four felon accounts,
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck if you have the time
Speaker 1: to go through you know, however many appeals until like
Speaker 1: it is overturned. You are a felon and in this country,
Speaker 1: you couldn't get a job at Walmart, but you can
Speaker 1: run the country.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What has happened for me over the last eight to
Speaker 1: ninety years is really looking at America in a much
Speaker 1: different light than I had ever looked at America before.
Speaker 1: And this is somebody that went to school for political science,
Speaker 1: that taught that work down the hill, you know, believes
Speaker 1: in you know, civic engagement, believes in the possibility of
Speaker 1: this country. And I look at this country now and
Speaker 1: I look at all of what we thought were laws
Speaker 1: which were actually political norms. I look at the hypocrisy,
Speaker 1: the downright hypocrisy that we purport globally as well as
Speaker 1: in this country, and I look around and I say,
Speaker 1: and I've been saying this on every show today, that
Speaker 1: over the next twenty thirty years, America is going to
Speaker 1: experience an extraordinary brain drain. That people are going to
Speaker 1: fully this country in the way that you have seen
Speaker 1: other people fully countries or go to study in different places,
Speaker 1: or have that that is going to be You're going
Speaker 1: to see more Americans sprinkled around the globe in mass
Speaker 1: than you'd ever seen before. Because I don't know how
Speaker 1: we think that we are going to be importing talent
Speaker 1: in this country anymore when every single law and policy
Speaker 1: that used to make us somewhat the envy of the
Speaker 1: world is now backwards. I was just talking about this.
Speaker 1: Ear just announce Thailand recognizing same sex marriage, the first
Speaker 1: country in the Asian Pacific to do so. Right, Mexico,
Speaker 1: past abortion Catholic country does So you're watching places where
Speaker 1: you would never see the type of progress. New Zealand
Speaker 1: assault rifle ban done, one mass shooting over with as
Speaker 1: other countries like recognize that America is not it, and
Speaker 1: they are making the decisions about like their citizens and
Speaker 1: the future that they want to see. America is barreling
Speaker 1: in the opposite direction, and I think that people are
Speaker 1: going to leave this country, and who is going to
Speaker 1: be left, unfortunately, are going to be those that do
Speaker 1: not have the economic ability the education to be able
Speaker 1: to leave.
Speaker 2: It's so sad because, like you know, I'm writing this
Speaker 2: book about the dismantling of America right now, and part
Speaker 2: of it is, like I did this. I just did
Speaker 2: a literature search in all these linguistic databases for American
Speaker 2: print sources, and if you look, like in nineteen forty five,
Speaker 2: one of the most commonly used words in American print
Speaker 2: media was cooperate, and like I traced everywhere like it
Speaker 2: was our ethos even for like really untractable race problems,
Speaker 2: but also like how we came together to beat the
Speaker 2: Nazis and what we were going to do to our
Speaker 2: economy and the Marshall Plan and all this kind of
Speaker 2: stuff was like, hey, we're all, you know, we're in
Speaker 2: a certain kind of alliance, you know, not that it
Speaker 2: was like obviously the same for a lot of people,
Speaker 2: and it led to all these other problems, but cooperate
Speaker 2: was like this thing. And then it's funny, one of
Speaker 2: the graphs in my introduction, the word cooperate just falls
Speaker 2: down and down and down and down for the next
Speaker 2: like fifty years in a way, and that's the same
Speaker 2: time that the word dismantle starts to like rise in
Speaker 2: all these ways on the right and on the left.
Speaker 2: And it's just so sad because what you're describing now
Speaker 2: is kind of like how we built this current iteration
Speaker 2: of America, right, which is we created alliances with allies,
Speaker 2: and we became a home for people like Albert Einstein,
Speaker 2: who we're fleeing oppression in other places, and we it
Speaker 2: was that kind of that model was like kind of
Speaker 2: what put us on the map. I mean, we were Hillbillies,
Speaker 2: you know, one hundred years ago. And so in a way,
Speaker 2: it's just sad that we're like we're like dismantling, like
Speaker 2: what got us here in the first place. As you're saying,
Speaker 2: is other people are doing that, and it's it's just
Speaker 2: hard to It's like watching a slow motion train track.
Speaker 1: But it doesn't in all honesty, doesn't even feel like
Speaker 1: that slow motion, right, Like I look at you know,
Speaker 1: another report had come out recently that Paris, Right, the
Speaker 1: city of Paris has been able to lower their pollution
Speaker 1: by forty percent, right in the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: How have they been to do that? Oh, They've added
Speaker 1: more They've closed down roads to cars, They've taken fifty
Speaker 1: thousand cars off of the street. They've created more pedestrian
Speaker 1: streets and made the city more even more pedestrian friendly
Speaker 1: than it was. Why. Because they see a threat. They've
Speaker 1: looked at that threat and they've said, let's create a
Speaker 1: solution for it. And I'm looking at that, and I'm
Speaker 1: just like, how groundbreaking you mean that you just don't
Speaker 1: like consistently talk about the threat at nauseum and then
Speaker 1: don't do anything actually about it. You mean you can
Speaker 1: actually take action and then see real results in a
Speaker 1: small amount of time. No, can't possibly be?
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, And again, like I'm worked because I read
Speaker 2: Project twenty twenty five full text the other day and
Speaker 2: it's it is just like going back in time, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, like there is going back in time, and
Speaker 2: so you know, I mean, in a way, Biden is old,
Speaker 2: but he also maybe signals like holding on to something
Speaker 2: that we once were. I just I don't know I
Speaker 2: can This election is really important, as I say.
Speaker 1: That, Yeah, it is very important and the stakes are
Speaker 1: very very clear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope this is our time and then we say, man,
Speaker 2: we pulled it together. I hope that's what happens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be speaking on what November sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth,
Speaker 1: whenever this election is decided. Yeah, I personally don't think
Speaker 1: it'll be decided until December, but you know that's just me.
Speaker 2: Here's us more time to go on vacation.
Speaker 1: That is right. Thank you as always my friend Jonathan
Speaker 1: for showing up for wok AFF and diving into conversation
Speaker 1: with us.
Speaker 2: Next week, let's talk about like, let's pick a cheerful topic.
Speaker 2: We always make these proclamations, but.
Speaker 1: I know we never stick with them because something that
Speaker 1: always happens.
Speaker 2: Okay, next week we're doing cheerful topic.
Speaker 1: All right, Thank you friend, Take care everybody. That is
Speaker 1: it for me today, Dear friends on wok f as always,
Speaker 1: power to the people and to all the people. Power,
Speaker 1: get woke and stay woke. As fun