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Speaker 2: Comedy Off Bway. Welcome everyone, It is Kentucky Sports Radio. Friday,

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Speaker 2: December the twenty seventh. I and Matt Jones here live

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Speaker 2: in Glasgow, Kentucky at the Don Franklin Cadillac. Absolutely huge

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Speaker 2: a long time. So thank you all very much. The

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Speaker 2: weather is absolutely horrendous outside and yet everybody came out,

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Speaker 2: by the TJ. Smith Lofice called TJ. I'll make him pay.

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Speaker 2: You can probably hear. I'm a little under the weather. Uh.

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Speaker 2: better today. Ready to go, Ryan Drew, And definitely glad

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Speaker 2: I made the trip through this downpour to see how

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Speaker 3: How about this guy, he's sick and he wanted to

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Speaker 3: come down here to be here at Glasgow today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to Glasgow. Think about think about what all? Think

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Speaker 2: about what all has happened over here in Glasgow over

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Speaker 2: Kent Bull, another one of our friends is from here, Drew.

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Speaker 2: I've played in the Glasgow Golf screenball, though I haven't

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Speaker 3: He's still alive. He's still We're good. We've seen him today.

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Speaker 2: But it also, you know, Drew, sometimes people listen to

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Speaker 2: New week, I listen, I could beat all of you

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Speaker 3: There are little stories we've hinted at over the years

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Speaker 3: I'm sure they were chopping at the bit after losing

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Speaker 4: A slight dip. I'm not changing my prediction from him,

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Speaker 3: That could be a good ticket to get because Florida

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Speaker 4: And that opening game, you know those little numbers on

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Speaker 2: So the big story in college basketball is Jim Larrinaga,

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Speaker 3: My big problem, I mean, he's a highly respected coach,

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Speaker 2: Not going backward. So I just thought it was good

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Speaker 2: Kentucky Sports Radio here live in Glasgow. It's Don Franklin

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Speaker 2: Cadillac Chevrolet. How about this. First of all, I didn't

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Speaker 2: fancy Drew to go riding around Cadillac style as Sammy

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Speaker 2: Well all right, so people, So again this is behind

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Speaker 2: What person writes? What is the story behind Severe Wheeler

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Speaker 4: That's pretty much how I understood the rift. My big

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Speaker 2: One person rights is Max. Okay, did you find him?

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Speaker 5: I wondered that myself.

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Speaker 2: Actually, yes, I did find him. He had stayed out

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Speaker 4: So I appreciate Max. You asked him to fill in

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Speaker 2: And it's one thing to say yes, it's another thing

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Speaker 5: That I missed the show. It was five hours ago. Max. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: being able to let do whatever they wanted to do.

436
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Speaker 3: I think it created a problem in the locker room.

437
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 3: Whereas all your players, no matter they make more money

438
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Speaker 3: in the other they all need to be treated the

439
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 3: same on that playing field, and they just weren't.

440
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Speaker 2: I think there was a lot of Barry and Brown problems. Right,

441
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Speaker 2: you think that's fair?

442
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Speaker 5: Oh?

443
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if he was always given one

444
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Speaker 4: hundred percent.

445
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Speaker 2: And then I think Dion Walker, I don't think he

446
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 2: necessarily didn't try, but he was disconnected from the team,

447
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 2: and so the two guys probably making the most money,

448
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 2: they felt like, we're getting a completely different set of standards. Yep.

449
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 2: Now it's not the first time that's happened. I think

450
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 2: we've talked about it. Lynn Bowden was like that, but

451
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 2: the difference was drew that the players felt like, Okay,

452
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 2: Lynn Boden may act like this, but when we play

453
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 2: that dude puts everything he's got on the line, so

454
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Speaker 2: we'll look past it. Didn't necessarily feel that way about

455
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Speaker 2: Barry On and Dion.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that season when Lynn Bowden might have not been

457
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 4: his best self at every practice, might have been late

458
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,400
Speaker 4: a time or two on Saturday, he's putting the entire

459
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Speaker 4: team on his back, and we all saw it on

460
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Speaker 4: the field. So you just live with it.

461
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Speaker 2: You just kind of live with it because you go

462
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,919
Speaker 2: we know when we get out there, we'll get the

463
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Speaker 2: best of him. I don't think they felt that way

464
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Speaker 2: about those other two guys. We will take a break

465
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Speaker 2: and be right back. We are here in Glasgow, this

466
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Speaker 2: is Kentucky Sports Radio, Warnermack. It is Kentucky smarts A.

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Speaker 2: I'm nine two twenty two eighty seven here in Glasgow.

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Speaker 2: The rain is finally dissipated here a little bit, and

469
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Speaker 2: it is uh uh. As soon as we got inside,

470
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Speaker 2: the rain stopped. A great crowd here. You can go

471
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Speaker 2: to Don Franklin Auto dot com and find all of

472
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Speaker 2: your auto needs. One person rights Matt. One of the

473
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 2: reasons I've always distrusted KSR. Well, that's not very nice.

474
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 2: You all know bad things about the UK basketball team,

475
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 2: and then you don't tell the fans. I think that's bad. Well,

476
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 2: but again, what do you want. First of all, you

477
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Speaker 2: find some of this stuff out after the end of

478
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 2: the season, but I will hint at things. I will

479
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 2: just use last year as an example. There was a

480
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 2: It was again, if you were around the team, you

481
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 2: knew that Rob Dillingham and Cal did not see I

482
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 2: die you. We all knew Rob Dillingham and Reed Shepherd

483
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 2: should play more. We would basically insinuate that all the time,

484
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 2: and our thank you you was online every single day.

485
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 2: I got beat up by people saying I was disloyal

486
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 2: to Kentucky and disloyal to cal and behind the scenes,

487
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 2: Cow was trying to get me fired. So that was

488
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 2: the That was the sort of reward for telling the truth.

489
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 2: So I mean, Drew, people can say they want to

490
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 2: know the truth. But when things are going good or

491
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 2: even moderately positive, and you try to suggest anything's negative,

492
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 2: people go absolutely crazy. Uh in In in sports, look

493
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: at politics. Try to be a Republican and say something

494
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Speaker 2: about Trump, or try to be a Democrat during the

495
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 2: election and say something about Harris, people go crazy. Same

496
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 2: thing when you're a UK fan and you criticize the team.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, we all want Kentucky to do well.

498
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 4: And if you hear something behind the scenes you don't love,

499
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 4: if you go and say it on the radio, it's

500
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 4: you're gonna get a lot of your creating controversy. Why

501
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 4: are you doing this? Things are going so well, we

502
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 4: love this team. Why are you being negative? Why are

503
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 4: you bringing that up? It's like, well, it happened.

504
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Speaker 2: I mean it's true. I remember we he said something

505
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 2: about DJ Wagner. I can't remember what it was last year,

506
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 2: but people went nuts. And then as soon as it

507
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 2: was over, one of the assistant coaches called me and

508
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 2: said you had bad the way you were right about that.

509
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 2: But you can't. I can't go on the air and say, hey,

510
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 2: the assistant coach just told me it was right. They're

511
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 2: just gonna get so like it's a no win situation.

512
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 2: So a lot of the times what I try to

513
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 2: do is I hint something without saying it, and then

514
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 2: people who listen to the show can decide whether they

515
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Speaker 2: want to believe it or not.

516
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Speaker 4: A lot of times it's what it is or how

517
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Speaker 4: you heard. If someone kind of tells me in private,

518
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 4: they're telling me they don't want me to go blab

519
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 4: it into the radio. So if you want them to

520
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 4: continue to tell things, you have to keep some of yourself.

521
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 4: Or you can be like Ryan go to the club

522
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Speaker 4: boot Club Blue Christmas Party and just tell everything you hear.

523
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Speaker 2: But there is a little bit the opposite through a

524
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 2: filter to let it leak, like you'll let it go

525
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 2: sometimes not intentionally, or maybe I think your just brain

526
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 2: just farts a lot. Uh double volleyball scoop on that

527
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 2: day you did have two volleyball scoops just letting everything fly.

528
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Speaker 5: Or I am a diehard reporter, Yes that's what I'm

529
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Speaker 5: gonna report. The report Vince.

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Speaker 2: Mayri stayin Yeah. I think this is the fourth time

531
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Speaker 2: he's been staying this year, but this time it comes

532
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Speaker 2: from the source that said he was likely to go

533
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Speaker 2: to North Carolina Football Scoop. I think I can say

534
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Speaker 2: I spoke to Vince last night. He says, in certain,

535
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Speaker 2: So now they have him, which was good because I

536
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 2: don't think that was certain. For a long time. I

537
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 2: never thought I'm gonna go to Louisville, but I thought

538
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Speaker 2: the North Carolina thing could have happened. But it looks

539
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Speaker 2: like it won't.

540
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Speaker 3: You know, you know Vince Cloat more than any of us,

541
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Speaker 3: anybody in this room, and I could tell you were

542
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Speaker 3: a little uncertain whether he would go to North Carolina

543
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Speaker 3: or Now that's the first time after Vince's name has

544
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Speaker 3: been hooked a lot of these jobs, you thought yourself,

545
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Speaker 3: this may happen.

546
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, Vince and Stoops have a weird relationship,

547
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Speaker 2: like the they're best friends, but they're best friends who

548
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Speaker 2: fight right and you know, over the years they've had

549
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 2: these arguments and they always ended up coming back together,

550
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Speaker 2: and so I think there was some of that, and

551
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Speaker 2: I thought they would come back together. But then there

552
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: was a little period where I don't know, And you know,

553
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 2: it's interesting because we get foot here. I've learned that

554
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 2: this this has changed over the years. So it used

555
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 2: to be when Stoops first got here, all the players

556
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 2: pretty much came from Vince at first, and then it

557
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 2: was like Vince and Schlarman, and then it was Vince

558
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 2: Schlarman and Klink who went to Michigan, and then it

559
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 2: kind of became Vince and like Eddie Grant because Eddie

560
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: Graham would pick a lot of the portal people. And

561
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Speaker 2: now it's kind of Vince, Will Wolford and Eddie Grat

562
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Speaker 2: And I think it's natural that there's some competition between

563
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Speaker 2: those guys about the players and who they get and

564
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 2: when somebody gets won and they don't necessarily think it

565
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 2: was the right one. I just think some of that

566
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 2: plays into it. Sometimes could be.

567
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Speaker 4: A little bit of that. And as we said at

568
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 4: the time, it's one thing when Louisville's calling you or

569
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 4: Toledo or and name it that Vince has had out there.

570
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 4: When it's Belichick on the line, that's one you've got

571
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 4: to take very serious. Shared the same agent, when when

572
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 4: Mark Stoops steps away, he doesn't have to coach football

573
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 4: again if he wants to. But Vince still, if he

574
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Speaker 4: wants to, I mean, he has more coaching to do.

575
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Speaker 4: Might want to get in the NFL. If you want

576
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Speaker 4: to dip your toe in the NFL, I don't know

577
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 4: you can have much better on your resume than coach

578
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Speaker 4: under Bill Belichick.

579
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Speaker 2: Michae Lombardi, former Super Bowl winning GM calls you up

580
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 2: and says, Vince, I'm basically the GM for North Carolina football.

581
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: I'm in charge of bringing in players, and I want

582
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: you to come and tell me who to bring it.

583
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: I mean, you got us. You got a Hall of

584
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 2: fame coach, a Hall of fame GM. Giving you that call,

585
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: you gotta at least think about it. Ryan, you have

586
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 2: to think.

587
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 5: You take that call and you listen to that call.

588
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 5: You have that calls like.

589
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 2: That, Yeah, who's up first? Brandon is up first? Branding,

590
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 2: go ahead, brand Hey.

591
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Speaker 6: Guys, I had two questions, so I'll just pick one

592
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 6: unless you want to pick a number one or two.

593
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 5: Uh, I like this game.

594
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: I'll pick number two.

595
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Speaker 6: Okay. Would you care to share some insight on the

596
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 6: conversation you had on the phone towards Seattle?

597
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: Which one there were like four.

598
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Speaker 6: Of them, basically the one that you all have brought

599
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 6: up maybe once or twice.

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Speaker 2: You come back my conversation with Stoops, Yes, sir, Yeah,

601
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: well maybe I should have picked question one.

602
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, what was question one?

603
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: Yeah? What was question one?

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Speaker 6: Since it was kind of recent the players receiving payments,

605
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Speaker 6: you know, for not doing work, I'm just wondering if

606
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Speaker 6: y'all had heard any skuttle butts of pre encounters like that. That.

607
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean that look, yes, that's been happening Ryan

608
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 2: for fifty years. I mean, that's part of the reason

609
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 2: I can't get mad at Chris Rodriguez and these guys.

610
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 2: Every school in the country, every school in the country

611
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 2: had guys going back to the rough days, had guys

612
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: who had jobs that weren't really jobs that they got

613
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 2: paid for, that were kind of jobs but not really jobs.

614
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 2: That's been happening since the sixties. So like it just

615
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 2: so happened Chris Rodriguez and those guys got caught.

616
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Speaker 4: You mean, our best basketball players back in the day

617
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Speaker 4: weren't also great at bank tellers and horse farm employs.

618
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate the call, but you know what I.

619
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Speaker 5: Mean, construction jobs.

620
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the tho'll can check the job considered a lot

621
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Speaker 3: a lot of times sitting in your dorm room and

622
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Speaker 3: watching the sun go up and down.

623
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Speaker 5: That was your construction job.

624
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Speaker 2: You were constructing an image of life. Yeah. Throughout the

625
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 2: I mean that's happened all the time. The difference was

626
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: UK Healthcare. I think they got audited by new CEO

627
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 2: and then it came out. But other but like what

628
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: was happening had been happening forever Drew, not just here

629
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: at every school in the country, if we're being honest.

630
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think everyone finds a way to get short

631
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 4: cuts and cut corners to help their guys out. In

632
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 4: the case of UK, maybe show up for a couple

633
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 4: of the shifts though to Jim get them off the train.

634
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 2: And they had a guy one of the employees that

635
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 2: UK Healthcare was literally clocking the players in and that's issue,

636
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 2: and that was I think that was the bigger issue.

637
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: Who's up next? Jackson?

638
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 4: Is up next?

639
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: Jackson? Go ahead? Jackson?

640
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Speaker 4: Oh, hey, guys, I ricially for Chris Scott SEC Tournament

641
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Speaker 4: dickats and so I was.

642
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 2: SEC tournament story. First of all, that's an awesome present

643
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 2: SEC Tournament Jackson. I hope you realize SEC tournament is

644
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 2: maybe the best year the tournament could will ever have.

645
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm super excited to go.

646
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 2: Oh dude, I'm jealous. We don't even have SEC Tournament

647
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 2: tickets yet. Best moment of the SEC Tournament well, I

648
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 2: sort of do it in two eras. I have the

649
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: era where I used to go with my grandfather. And

650
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 2: then that best tournament was nineteen ninety two. I think

651
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: that's right, the year in Birmingham when that was probably

652
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 2: the best tournament they've ever had, where we had Mashburn

653
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Speaker 2: and those guys. And then you had Alabama with Robert

654
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Speaker 2: Rri James Hollywood, Robinson, latrell' spree well, Arkansas had Todd Day,

655
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 2: Lee Mayberry, Scottie Todd Day, Lee Mayberry and Oliver Miller.

656
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: Lsu had Shack and that whole crew that was probably

657
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: the best one. And then I think the best environment

658
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: for an SEC Tournament game was the year we played Tennessee.

659
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: Remember that was at John Wall's.

660
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Speaker 4: Year or when they beat him by a million?

661
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Speaker 2: Well, yes, when they beat him by a million? What

662
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 2: was that John Wall's year? That was the best environment

663
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: in that arena we played Tennessee had Scottie Hopson and

664
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Speaker 2: we had John Wallen and we beat him by like

665
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Speaker 2: a thousand, and then the next day had that game

666
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: against Mississippi State with the put back and all that.

667
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: That's probably the best modern one for me.

668
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 3: My two main memories don't even involve basketball. The Tornado game,

669
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Speaker 3: the Toto went through Atlanta dur in the SEC tournament,

670
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Speaker 3: and then when COVID hit and we were the SEC

671
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 3: tournament in Nashville.

672
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, the COVID one. The other game I

673
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: tend to remember was I'm trying to think what year

674
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: it was, Drew, but what's the year we played Texas

675
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Speaker 2: A and M?

676
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Speaker 4: Not last year?

677
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 2: I think, No, I think it was. I think it

678
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: was maybe twenty sixteen. The Jamal Murray Tyler Ulis team.

679
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 2: We played Texas A and M in the finals and

680
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 2: Derek Willis and Dominique Hawking and had like this yea, yeah,

681
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: I had this crazy game and it was like, that's

682
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: the That's my other sort of SEC tournament game that

683
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: really sticks out in my head.

684
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jackson, the callar didn't sound old enough for my

685
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 4: favorite SEC tournament memories, but a good story that I

686
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 4: have as I turned down great seats for the wall

687
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 4: Cousins tip in game. I was just watching it on TV.

688
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 4: I think I could even see my seats empty and

689
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 4: clearly would have gone had I known it was gonna

690
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 4: be a good game. I thought we were gonna kill

691
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 4: them because they just killed Tennessee. So I didn't go,

692
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 4: and then it, of course long ends up being one

693
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 4: of the best games. Questions how long has it been

694
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 4: since we.

695
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 2: Won it.

696
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Speaker 4: Twenty nineteen?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think we've only won once in like

698
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Speaker 2: eight years.

699
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Speaker 4: Did they win in twenty nineteen with.

700
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Speaker 2: Hero I will have to look at that. Billy looked

701
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 2: that up during the break. I think we've I want

702
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 2: to say we've won like one of the last eight

703
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: or something. That tournament that we used to own win.

704
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 3: It every single year when Tubby was here, Man, they'd

705
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 3: win that thing every year.

706
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean even in the early days of cow

707
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 2: we won it almost every year. Did not have it

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Speaker 2: By the way, people may be doing more. Do people

716
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Speaker 2: know that? Like they're about Tobaan vaping in Kentucky? Like completely,

717
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: does everybody know that?

718
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Speaker 4: I don't know. If about that, I've talked about a

719
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Speaker 4: little bit.

720
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you more about it. I don't think

721
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: everybody knows what's happening here in like four days in Kentucky.

722
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna take a lot of people by surprise.

723
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Speaker 2: We'll take a break and be right back. This is

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Speaker 2: Kentucky Sports Radio.

725
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Speaker 5: What amack?

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00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 2: It is Kentucky Sports Radio here live in Glasgow. Don Franklin,

727
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,439
Speaker 2: you know, Don Franklin. You're in savings red Tag sales event.

728
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Speaker 2: Up to eleven thousand dollars off some twenty twenty four

729
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: Chevy Silverado Mo Silverado models all out here. Got four

730
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 2: days left for in the year sales. We got a

731
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: great crowd here in Glasgow, a lot of people writing

732
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 2: in questions on the text machine. But we got I

733
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 2: think when people have these behind the scenes, they get

734
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: nervous to call, you can call A five nine two

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Speaker 2: twenty two eighty seven. We have open lines. So get

736
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Speaker 2: in here before we get to a couple more of these.

737
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 2: The vaping thing, Drew, I'm I'm against vaping. I actually

738
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: think it's probably really bad. It'll be one of these

739
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: things that like in ten or fifteen years, we'll find

740
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 2: out is really really really really really bad for you.

741
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 2: So I'm not against this law. But there's two things.

742
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 2: I don't think people in Kentucky know that, like virtually

743
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 2: all vaping is going to be illegal to buy in

744
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: Kentucky in four days. You know, like if you go

745
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: buy like fruity like it's flavored, like all the fruit

746
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: stuff gone. They'll only be like twenty products that are allowed.

747
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 2: And they're all like tobacco flavored. And so I don't

748
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 2: think a lot of people vape the tobacco flavor they

749
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: vape one of those. All those will be gone, won't

750
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: be able to buy them in Kentucky and buy them

751
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 2: in other states, can't buy them in Kentucky. Now, when

752
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 2: I saw that, I was like, Wow, who would have

753
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: ever thought Kentucky would be like so pro health? Uh huh?

754
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 2: Any what it is it's the tobacco industry is basically

755
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 2: made it to where they banned everything except what the

756
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: tobacco industry sell sells, which is the vape flavor that

757
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 2: is tobacco. So it's like it's class at Kentucky. It

758
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 2: looks like on the surface it's positive, but then the

759
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 2: only thing legal. It's basically creating a monopoly for the

760
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: tobacco company. So I it's it's nonsense, but there's a

761
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 2: lot of people, Like you go into a gas station.

762
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's like this here in Glasgow,

763
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: but it's just flavored vapes everywhere. All that's going away

764
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 2: in four days.

765
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Speaker 4: All I hear is there's about to be a lot

766
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 4: of cheap real estate because I feel like there's a

767
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 4: vape shop every fifty yards in Kentucky. Yeah, that and

768
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 4: what will college kids have in their hand now? Because

769
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 4: I feel like anyone under the age of twenty constantly

770
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 4: has a vape in their mind?

771
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 2: Do you think people know that in Kentucky? Like, do

772
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: you think the average person knows that that's about to happen.

773
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 3: I consider myself a below average person, and I had

774
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 3: no idea the first time I'm hearing of it.

775
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: Actually, you consider yourself a below average person.

776
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 4: That's very good.

777
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 3: I didn't know that. And I have an old My

778
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 3: oldest son vapes. He probably doesn't have any idea. He

779
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 3: probably doesn't know it.

780
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: I considered myself a below average person. Yeah, I like that.

781
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 2: One person rights, Matt, you skipped over two things there

782
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 2: in your last segment. You gotta go over. You do

783
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: need to answer this question about Stoops and then the

784
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: cow got you fired or trying to get you fired.

785
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 5: I wonder if you're gonna bounce back and.

786
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 2: Well on the on the cow trying to get you fired.

787
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 2: I have four days left on my contract, but I'm

788
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 2: trying to get a new one. Let's see if we

789
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: get a new one, and then we'll talk about that,

790
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: all right.

791
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 4: To add stressed to that.

792
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Speaker 2: Between now and January first, I have a lot of

793
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 2: uff I have to do. Let's see if we get

794
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 2: that done, and then if I'm not on the air

795
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: January second, then we'll do it that way, or even

796
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 2: if I am, we'll do it that way. The Stoops

797
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 2: Stoops conversation, you know, to his ca I intentionally never

798
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: talked to him during the year, like, what are you

799
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 2: gonna say, you know, I mean, am I supposed to

800
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: be like you guys aren't doing good? Like like what

801
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: am I gonna say to the guy? So he called

802
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 2: me on that trip and just said, like, you know,

803
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 2: what are the what's the fans sort of take on

804
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 2: the year? And I was honest with him about where

805
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 2: I thought the fans were. I was pretty upfront about

806
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: the things I thought most fans thought. I think it

807
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 2: was a hard conversation for him to listen to. He

808
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: pushed back on some of it, but he also, I

809
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 2: think understood some of it. I think I said, on

810
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: this show, he needs people to tell him that it

811
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 2: shouldn't have to be me. He needs people to tell

812
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 2: him like the fans are here. And so it was

813
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 2: a long I mean we talked for like a an

814
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 2: hour and a half. You all heard half of it.

815
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Speaker 2: How would you characterize well?

816
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Speaker 3: I told you when you hung up the phone, I said,

817
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 3: the best thing you did in that phone conversation was

818
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 3: tell him some things that he didn't know how the

819
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 3: fans were feeling. You know, he needed to know the

820
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 3: fans were disappointed. He needed to know the fans thought

821
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 3: the culture was getting bad, and to his credit.

822
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Speaker 5: It sounded like he listened at least when you were

823
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Speaker 5: trying to tell you.

824
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Speaker 2: I think here's something I give him a lot of

825
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 2: credit for. I look at you, folks in the crowd.

826
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Speaker 2: He wants He genuinely wants to please you all like

827
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Speaker 2: he has. Mark Pope is the same way. He has

828
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Speaker 2: a desire to make people happy. Sometimes I think coaches

829
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 2: get so big that they don't care. They almost get

830
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 2: angry at the fans. I don't really get the sense.

831
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: Mark Stoops is like that. Mark Stoops like wants to

832
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: be loved by the fans, and he sometimes I think

833
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 2: doesn't understand why people are frustrated. But I told him

834
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 2: in that call, I said, you you heard me say this, Drew.

835
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 2: I said, you screwed up with the pony up stuff.

836
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 2: You screwed up. That was a mistake. I was like,

837
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Speaker 2: the way you did it when you did it, And

838
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: I think he'd be fine with me saying He said

839
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: to me, you know what, you're right, And I said,

840
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 2: you need to come on my show and say all that,

841
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 2: and he said to me he would after he sort

842
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 2: of completed the rehab for the surgery he had to have,

843
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: which I think so probably we'll do that sometime next week.

844
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Speaker 4: I believe we ranked number two on our contentious Call

845
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 4: number two. So there are some moments, but only hearing

846
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 4: one half. I think it went well for both parties.

847
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 2: Sounded like his.

848
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 4: I mean, you have a pretty good feel of the

849
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 4: fan base here between The show sells media everything more

850
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 4: than he does. Honestly, he's a little busy, so I

851
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 4: think you were just able to tell him a little

852
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 4: bit about how the fan base is really feeling right now.

853
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 2: I will say this, I don't know if it's gonna

854
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: work next year, who knows, but I do think he

855
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 2: does want to please the fans. He does now. Whether

856
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 2: or not they're gonna be able to do it right,

857
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I think he wants.

858
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 5: If he didn't care, he would he wouldn't.

859
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: Have called Yeah, you're exactly right, he wouldn't have called me.

860
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Speaker 2: We'll take a break, come back our number two K

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Speaker 2: S R.