1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: R and B Money. 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 2: We are. 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 3: Than take Valanti. We are the authority and ladies and gentlemen, 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 3: my name is Tank, I'm Valentine and this it's the 5 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 3: Army Money Podcast, the a thort on all things R 6 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 3: and B. Stays of this ship. 7 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 4: Because it's probably for It's probably sh if you stay 8 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 4: up too. 9 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 3: Ladies. Came right up at the strip club. You're damn right, 10 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 3: and I know it kills you. Ladies and gentlemen. Nothing 11 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 3: but talent, beauty and grace on the pot today. Give 12 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 3: it up, melody. 13 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 5: Yeah. 14 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: Last we've been saying we're gonna do this. 15 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: Listen, I've been at your house. 16 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 6: I just randomly walk up to her, like, how. 17 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: Come you have been on the podcast? I was like, 18 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: we're coming. 19 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 3: You have the nigga house man chilling, drinking, kids playing. 20 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 4: I'm like, I agree, it's harder to get like our 21 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 4: personal friends on the podcast. 22 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 3: What is that about? I don't I don't know, I 23 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 3: don't know you know what I think, But I think 24 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 3: I know you were waiting. 25 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:28,919 Speaker 1: It was I was waiting. 26 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 3: You wanted to connect it to to some cool ship. 27 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 3: You know what. Let me, let me, let me, let 28 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 3: me roll out. Come on, because because I give out 29 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 3: because I want to. I want to roll. 30 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 6: We don't usually follow no rules, but he gonna go 31 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 6: ahead and get it. 32 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 3: No, no, no, because because because this is this is the 33 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 3: beginning of the pod. They're tuned in right now, right now, 34 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: right now, right now. You know what I'm saying. If 35 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 3: they don't stay on for the next hour and a half, 36 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 3: two hours, we got them right now. Okay, singles Say 37 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: Yes and I Choose. 38 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: You Yes new singles. 39 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 3: Just give me a little bit about those two records. 40 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: Oh Say Yes is like my artful offering. It is 41 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: a completely live song produced by Dre Harris ThunderCats playing bass, 42 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: Charlie Barrell guitar, Chris Dave on drums. Sir Co wrote 43 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: this song singing backgrounds. I mean this is like I 44 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: feel music lovers like gonna be their favorite song, Like 45 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: they just can appreciate what it is. And the truth 46 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: is the song is a seven minute song, but what 47 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: we released is only four minutes. Oh yeah, we want. 48 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to give. First of all, the song is 49 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: about saying yes to love. It's about stepping over fear. 50 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: It's about being really vulnerable, hard in hand. But the 51 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: mood and the energy of the vibe because it was 52 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: a live session. It's just so sexy that it was like, 53 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: you want to you want to do something in seven minutes, 54 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: keep going going, So whatever anybody wants to do in 55 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 1: seven minutes when they listen to say yes, get it done. 56 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: I love that you count listen, you can Okay, you 57 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: got to say yes in seven minutes, So I really 58 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: love say yes. It's such a vibe. It's such a 59 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: just a beautiful, I think, vulnerable story. And I wrote 60 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: it about, you know, being in the space of when 61 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: I first started dating my husband and we were we 62 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: were doing this dance of we love each other, but 63 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: we're scared, we're both out of relationships and what do 64 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: we want to do and so we have to say yes. 65 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: And so I also feel like it's a manifestation song 66 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: because we had to get to our life by saying 67 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: yes that we are now and then I choose you 68 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: is just fun. It's just that it's for the lovers. Again. 69 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to make a song that people could play 70 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: at their weddings. But it's like Lover's Rock Waiting in 71 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: Vain by Bob Marley vibe and it's about the empowerment 72 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: of choice and what it is and what it means 73 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: to choose someone you know, to make the choice, to 74 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: choose love, to choose yourself, to choose to show up 75 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: how you need to in that relationship through all the 76 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: whatever it is. So you know, it's like, I choose 77 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: you to me is just such a powerful statement every 78 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: time I've ever heard that. When I think about it. 79 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: Ryan Leslie wrote a song called I Choose You, and 80 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: it was always one of my favorite things, and I 81 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: actually said it in my wedding vows. So I turned 82 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: it into a song and it's something that people could 83 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: dance to and rock to and smoke to or whatever. 84 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: It's just a vibe. 85 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 6: Just look at you out here making real life music memory. Yes, 86 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 6: that's what it should be. 87 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: But that's what it should be. But you know what 88 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: the thing is is that I think that it would 89 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: be a travesty if I just came out after all 90 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: this time, not putting on music and was singing about 91 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: some shit that people were like, that's not her life. 92 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: People know my life, you know, people have seen, they've asked, 93 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: they've wondered, they've supported me through different these different iterations 94 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: of myself from podcasting to motherhood, to being a woman, 95 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: to transitioning into motherhood, all the things, like people have 96 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: been with me on that I'm now a wife, I'm 97 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: a business woman, I'm an entrepreneur and still an artist 98 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: and a musician. So I think it's only honest for 99 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: people to get insight, true authentic insight into the feelings 100 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: and the experiences that have been happening all this time. 101 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 3: And I think there's a there is an entertainment part 102 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 3: of what this is, but I think the movie of 103 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 3: it all is your life, you know what I mean, 104 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 3: the sitcom of it all, it is your life, which, ultimately, 105 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 3: if we think about the things that have entertained us 106 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 3: the most, it it's always been family based for us. 107 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 3: It always been the Huxables, It's always been Fresh Prince 108 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 3: of bel Air, It's always been Martin, It's always where 109 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 3: It's like, it's life. 110 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: It's life, you know what I mean. See Like, I'm 111 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: also just in a very positive space in my life, 112 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: and love is to me just the ultimate connector. It 113 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: is the ultimate energy, It's the ultimate feeling, and so 114 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: I just want to inject more of that into the 115 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: world right now, you know, Like that's that I feel. 116 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: I have a responsibility to do and I feel like 117 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: I've done that in different ways with other songs. They've 118 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: been heartbreak songs or you know, like really like pleading ballads, 119 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: and that helps people understand love in a different way. 120 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: But this project and these songs particularly, I really wanted 121 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: to inject love and high vibration and have people smile 122 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: when they hear it and send it to people when 123 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: they hear it. So that's sound bath Oh yeah, okay, 124 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: we be sound bathing. 125 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 6: One time they invited me to the sound Bad. 126 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: That's actually good. You know you know what people say 127 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: that like no, because I'm telling you, when I first started. 128 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 6: They left me though everybody left. 129 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: They're respecting, they're respecting the grounding. 130 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 6: They said, you know what cooked, because you know what. 131 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: The thing is is that that's how you wake up 132 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: on a place. But you know what, there is something 133 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 1: really beautiful about that because your body is just telling 134 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: you like you've actually released and relaxed. 135 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 6: I don't. 136 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 3: Canepa listen if we stop talking right now for five minutes. 137 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 4: You know, I'm not narcalyptic, but I get comfortable, like 138 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 4: I'm I'm I live in comfort. 139 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 6: Don't go to the movies, movies. 140 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,679 Speaker 1: Do you dream Gone? Do you dream? 141 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay, he goes straight to R E. M Fast. 142 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 3: I love He's gone. You don't got to worry about 143 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 3: it about melon. 144 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 4: I'm from the hood. I think everybody that do sh 145 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 4: is a dophie. I don't funk with nothing. 146 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, you do what? 147 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 6: Oh nigga? You? 148 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: Oh my god? No, I mean I love that for you. 149 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 3: Sleeping is It's really tough for a lot of people. Yes, yeah, 150 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 3: so now it is absolutely again. Today is is today? 151 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 3: The release date of No. 152 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: The two songs are already out. Okay, two songs are out, Yes, 153 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: but there are two songs ahead of a six song 154 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: EP that's coming out at the top of the year, 155 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: Beautiful Yes. And the AP is also called say Yes. 156 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 3: I think like I mean, and we've had this conversation before. 157 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: I think, like what you do, how you articulate it, 158 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 3: like the energy of it all is is so needed. 159 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: And I say this a lot because I got this 160 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: from from one of one of my friends, Jason. He 161 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: was just like, when when the really talented people, when 162 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 3: the really great and amazing people take breaks, that's that's 163 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 3: when the imbalance happens. And for the people for the 164 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 3: young people who are growing up with these gifts and 165 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 3: these talents and need something or someone to hang on to, 166 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 3: someone to help inspire and guide their way. When we're 167 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 3: not present, they fall victim to the other side. And 168 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 3: nothing wrong with whatever that is over there. I respect it. 169 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 3: You know, whatever you gotta do to get off the 170 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 3: shelf and get out the good or live whatever dream 171 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 3: you're trying to live, I respect it. But there's something 172 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 3: about our calling that is different to people who are 173 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 3: like us. And just hearing you talk knowing your talent, 174 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, there's a there's a 175 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: fucking difference like your your your vibration and your energy 176 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 3: is connected to something so amazing that we just we 177 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 3: just don't need no Melanie Fiona breaks. 178 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 1: Melanie Fiona needed some breaks. 179 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 3: And I respect it and I respect it on you know. 180 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: What it is is that I think and I appreciate 181 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: you for those kind words, Thank you so much, because 182 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: I feel that in order for me to truly live 183 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: in my greatest purpose, I needed to protect myself and 184 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: I needed to refocus, and I needed to ask myself 185 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: what do I want my life to look like? And 186 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: I think that that's something that as artists we don't 187 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: sometimes give ourselves permission to do because we're so focused 188 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: on making a living, so we forget that like our 189 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: life is actually the thing. Our life's purpose and our 190 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: life's work is to take our whole life. So sometimes 191 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: we take time. And I've been saying this a lot 192 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: of people because like i've been now that I'm back 193 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: in like the promo run circle, a lot of artists 194 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: are coming to me, like new artists, younger artists, and 195 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: they're like, so happy you're back putting out music and 196 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: you know, and I'll be like, how are things going 197 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: for you? And they're like, yeah, you know, I just 198 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: I'm trying to find I got to work on this 199 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: next project. And I'll say, you know, I was like, 200 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: take you time. It's yours to take, you know, it's 201 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: yours to take. And too often we just feel like 202 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: we're on this demand of time and if we're not 203 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: in it, then we're out of it. And it's like 204 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: there's a I think for me, and I'll speak for myself, 205 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: it's that I've always felt timeless. I've never felt trendy 206 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: or current or like you know, too old or too young. 207 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: My spirit has always felt like I've always just been 208 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: in my right time, and just as long as I'm 209 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 1: being true to who I am and what I want 210 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: to do, then there'll always be a place for it, 211 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: you know. And I think the expectations of starting and 212 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: having a really strong foundation, you know, having a success 213 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: as far as what it is, numbers wise or accolades, 214 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: and I've experienced that and I recognized that that's a 215 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: blessing as well, Like it's also afforded me the choice 216 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: to decide how I want to shape my life. 217 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: You know. 218 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: So maybe if I didn't achieve some of the things 219 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: that I had, I might still be like I gotta, 220 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: I gotta. But when I got there and I realized 221 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: there was more to my well being and more that 222 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: I had to offer than I had to really ask myself, 223 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: like what do I want my life to look like? 224 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 7: You know? 225 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: So I won't be taking any more breaks as. 226 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 3: Far as take your time just the tickets. I just 227 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 3: know the people are watching it, you know what. 228 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: And that's why I wanted to put out two singles 229 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: out the gate, because it had been a while and 230 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to give you know, just not just And 231 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: that's the beautiful thing about music and just the landscape 232 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: of music right now, like there's no rules and I'm 233 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: independent and I can and I can do that. You know, 234 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: so so of your company love Link Link, Love Link Music. 235 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 1: It's my my children's middle names, Hi Love and Cameron Lincoln. 236 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: So love Link music. 237 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: That sounds like that sounds like a piece of jewelry 238 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 3: for sure. That is it. 239 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 6: Do you know what? 240 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: You better manifest it because because jewelry is in my 241 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: creative wheelhouse, love Link it is. It is. Oh my gosh, 242 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: listen you guys. This is just I love it. I'm 243 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: so happy. And by the way, like I've just been 244 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: in a very powerful, energetic season of my life. So 245 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: I receive everything as affirmations. I receive everything is confirmation 246 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: and divine. So the fact that you're saying that when 247 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: I'm in this season of already in creation and ideation 248 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: of that is just like yeah, yeah, here we are. 249 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 3: We are Yeah, so. 250 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: Oh we get comfortable, Hannah, let me adjust. 251 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 3: Okay, when did when did someone say or when did 252 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 3: you realize that you had something different? 253 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. I think I realized it when I was 254 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: four years old. 255 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 3: You realized it when you were for explain that. 256 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: So when I said, they asked me what I wanted 257 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: to be when I grew up, I said I wanted 258 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: to be a singing nurse. And I have carried that 259 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: very cute title for the majority of my life, thinking 260 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: what a cute idea. And it was only until I 261 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: really started to recognize how I was impacting people through 262 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: healing when I was putting out music, that I realized, Oh, 263 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: my four year old self, she already knew what I 264 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 1: was supposed to be. She already knew that I was 265 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: supposed to be this blend of music and healing in 266 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: this person. She said it, and I've written it in 267 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: books as a child, my parents told me, family members 268 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: and every time I used to say that growing up, 269 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: like what did you want to be? Did you always 270 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: know you want to be a singer? And I was like, yeah, 271 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: when I was little, I used to say I want 272 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: to be a singing nurse. But then I realized it 273 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: when I first started putting out music, and it kills 274 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: me came out, and that to me was like, oh, 275 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: this has already been written for you, and your four 276 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: year old self knew this about you. 277 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 3: Had you already been singing like in church or just so. 278 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: So I grew up immigrant parents, Guyanese household. My parents 279 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: are from the Caribbean. My dad played guitar. He used 280 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: to sing in a band on the weekends and evenings 281 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: like this was a thing. So I grew up with 282 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: music in the house. But my dad also worked the 283 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: day job. My dad and my mom worked full time jobs. 284 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: And I didn't grow up in the industry or even 285 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: grow up singing in church like I didn't. 286 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 6: But the music was in that. 287 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: But the music was in the house, you know. But 288 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: the idea of becoming a professional singer, especially coming from Toronto, 289 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: like that wasn't a thing that we saw, you know, 290 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: we knew about it, but we didn't see it from 291 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: where we were. We knew America and we knew the world. 292 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: But in Canada, like as a kid growing up, like 293 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: we knew Celine Dion and then eventually we would go 294 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: on and then in R and B you would see 295 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: Glenn Lewis and you'd see Deborah Cox and Tamia and 296 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: then you're like, oh, wait a second. But growing up 297 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: as a little girl, like I knew I wanted to sing, 298 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: but I didn't know how I was going to get there, 299 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: you know. I didn't know how I was going to 300 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: get there. But I was also really active in a 301 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: lot of things. I played sports. I loved school. Oh 302 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: I played basketball, I played volleyball, track and field, cross 303 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: county free. I kept myself busy. My mom and dad 304 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: called me Dion Diannis. I would just come home and 305 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: don't ask for permission. I just be like I joined 306 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: the volleyball team, and mom would be like, well, how 307 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: are you gonna like who's going to take you? 308 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 7: Like who? 309 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: I joined every team I could. I was a very 310 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: very active child as far as like wanting to try things, 311 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: very precocious, very outgoing, you know. But when it came 312 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: to singing, I was so shy. Like I knew I 313 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: could sing, and everybody knew I could sing. But when 314 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: you have the family function, melody come sick. I would 315 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: make everyone turn around. 316 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 3: That that direct something about that direct contest just not cool? 317 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 3: Look away, yeah, look. 318 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: Don't look at me. Don't look at me, and I 319 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: would look up and I didn't want to be looked at. 320 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: It was really interesting to think about that because now 321 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: performing is like my favorite thing, like give put me 322 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: on stage, please, But I didn't want to be looked at, 323 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: which is really interesting. So you know, going through the 324 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: process of like teenage years. And then even when I 325 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: was a teenager, I'd gone through some like really hard things. 326 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: Around twelve thirteen, I'd lost like my best friend to 327 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: a car accident, we moved, my grandmother passed away, like 328 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: there was a lot of life changes, and I felt 329 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: like at that time, my light went like this, and 330 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: I kind of became a different shell of myself. And 331 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: so when I started high school and you had the 332 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: opportunity to choose music or art, I chose art, and 333 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: I didn't do music. And it's almost like this thing 334 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: that I didn't I wasn't sharing anymore. I wasn't singing. 335 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: No one really knew when I first started high school 336 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: that I could sing like I did the play, and 337 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: it was kind of like, eh, like maybe maybe. And 338 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: then it was only until like my senior year when 339 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: I started to ask myself what do I want to 340 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: do with my life? And then I was like, you're 341 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: a singer, Melanie, Like you're good at sports, you're smart, 342 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: you could do all the but you're a singer, Like 343 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: that's the thing you do better than anything, So why 344 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: not why hide that? Like, why not bring that into 345 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: actually who you are? And why not that be the 346 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: thing that everybody really knows about you, because that's who 347 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 1: you are, like the singing nurse. You know, you've known 348 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: this about yourself. Why hide this part of yourself? So 349 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: then I started to sing that I was in the 350 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: talent show, and then I started showing more publicly that 351 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: I can sing, and then that led me to kind 352 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: of getting into the music industry. 353 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 6: But and then in Toronto, are not just Toronto, but in. 354 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 4: Canada, isn't there something set up for the arts as 355 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 4: far as like the. 356 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: Government, so there is, there's funding that you can get. 357 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: There's grants, like but you have to apply and you 358 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: have to get chosen, and you have to you know, 359 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,959 Speaker 1: you have to do that. And like I was at 360 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: that time as a teenager, like I wasn't even thinking 361 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: about pursuing a career. Okay, you know, I really wasn't. 362 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: Like I was just like, okay, like I'm gonna I'm 363 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: gonna own that I that I can sing. So when 364 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: I say that, like I kind of stepped away from it. 365 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: I it wasn't my whole identity where you know, some 366 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: people are like Oh she was singing her whole life, 367 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: church and in all things. You know. So so when 368 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 1: I actually got into the music industry, I was just 369 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: out of high school and I had joined the Gold 370 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: Group in Toronto, and. 371 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 6: You got to get in a group started. 372 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: Did it really happened if hit us with the name us, 373 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: with the name Exquisite? Yeah, yeah, just xx come on, 374 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: come on dash to you. 375 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, quiz quiz like that. 376 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: So that's how we got started. And it's fun. 377 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 6: Did it come along with a bankhead bounce? 378 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: You know? Did it kind of came along with like 379 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: a little bogel. We were like a little pop army group. 380 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: But it was funny because that introduction for me too 381 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: was like I never saw myself being in a group, 382 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: but I had the opportunity to get into a studio 383 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: and I was I was like, I've never been in 384 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: a studio, like eighteen years old. Yeah, let's go. 385 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 6: I want to go into this point. 386 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 4: You had never sang never in the never never And 387 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 4: Okay for the people that don't understand what that is, yeah, 388 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 4: give them the difference from like you know, you singing 389 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 4: at school, you singing around the house, this, this, that 390 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 4: and the other to the moment you're getting that studio, 391 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 4: you get that playback and you get to hear yourself. 392 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you get to hear yourself. And then also 393 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: you sing it over and over and over and over 394 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: again because you didn't. 395 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 6: I mean in the old days. 396 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I don't know. 397 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 4: Now they just be yeah, whatever whatever come out, we 398 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:29,959 Speaker 4: keep it. 399 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 2: You know. 400 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: It's so funny. 401 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 3: I can fix that, you know what. 402 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: God bless technology. But I really I'm still one of 403 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: those people that's like, no, I feel like I could 404 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: get it better. I still do. I don't want to 405 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: rely on it too hard, but that but that's the 406 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: truth is like getting into the studio, that was the 407 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: first time I got to hear myself on radio, like 408 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: on record, so so you know, and then also to 409 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,959 Speaker 1: being in a girl group dynamic. Now I'm hearing myself 410 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: compared to other voices. How does my voice blend, how 411 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: do we blend together? What does my voice bring to 412 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: a song when it comes on a record. So it 413 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: really started to teach me a lot about my particular 414 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: voice as opposed to just being a singer. You're a 415 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 1: good singer, you can sing really well, you love what 416 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: you used, didn't me too, but you sing really well harmonies, 417 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: you gotta jail. And then also you know, just learning 418 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: about the business with sisters or like who became sisters. 419 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: I mean one of the girls I'm still very very 420 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: close friends with, And it was like it was like 421 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: training camp. It was like you know, boot camp basically, 422 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: and I quickly learned that I just wasn't going to 423 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: be in the group. The business around that whole situation 424 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: was just terrible and it just fell apart quickly, and 425 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, we never went on to do anything. We had, 426 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: Like the one song that came out, we did local 427 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: success in Toronto, did a little television show up there. 428 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 3: It was cool. 429 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: But that really gave me the the introduction to I 430 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: think people then in the industry paying attention to me 431 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: as a singer. And then that's what led me to 432 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: then meet my at the time would become my manager, 433 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: who was from the States, who knew somebody in the 434 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: music industry in Toronto. And then that's how I crossed 435 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: the border. After that, that's how I left home, and 436 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: that's how I started to establish my career. And then 437 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: I came out here and then I started working. 438 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 3: So how did you mean you had across the border. 439 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: Oh, I had to cross the border. Yes, so I'm 440 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: from Toronto. 441 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 3: Were you saying I need to I need to go there, Yes, 442 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 3: in order to really figure this out. 443 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 6: O coming to America. 444 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: It's coming to America. Yeah, I mean this is a 445 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: story that if you talk to most Canadian artists that 446 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: are successful outside of Canada, this is that was always 447 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: the goal back then, you know, like to leave to 448 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: get noticed and achieve success and establishment in the United States. 449 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: Like this was the mecca of that, you know, all 450 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: R and B, all hip hop. We didn't have b 451 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: et growing up, Like we didn't have MTV. We had 452 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: much music, you know, so it's very much music. I'd music, 453 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: much music, which I don't even think exists anymore. It's 454 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: like it's you know, it's interesting. And then especially for 455 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: R and B, what are we talking about. I remember 456 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: being a kid and we used to get WBLK for Buffalo, 457 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: which was the R and B station, and you could 458 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: only get it in the car, so we would listen 459 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: to That's how we got R and B. And then 460 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: there was like the college stations that were starting to 461 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 1: you know, the DJs would come and run their own 462 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: sets and then That's how we got And I had 463 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: a brother who was seven years older than me, so 464 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: he gave me a lot of music education because he 465 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: was in the clubs when I was listening to Disney, 466 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: you know, So it was it was different. But going 467 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: to the States, that was that was it like you 468 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: gotta flight, you gotta go, you gotta take a meeting, 469 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: you know. I got to meet people that I dreamed 470 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: of hearing. But like just getting into the studio that 471 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 1: was crazy. But again, the boot camp of the girls 472 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: group really helped me not be completely lost and it 473 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: helped me. It was the stepping stone to prepare for 474 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: the American music industry. So yeah, so it was and 475 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: I know, we got away from. 476 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 3: The you know, you were coming across. 477 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: The border, yees. So I came across the border and 478 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: then I came across and then it was like, all right, 479 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: what's your sound? And I was like, a sound, I'm 480 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: a voice, there's a sound we have to do. So 481 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: the first producer that I ended up getting in with 482 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: was Super Dupes, and Dupes at the time was a 483 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,719 Speaker 1: part of a sound called Black Chinese, which was a 484 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: reggae collect just completely reggae collective and I started there 485 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: because being Caribbean, of Caribbean background, coming from Toronto, that's 486 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: my juice. That's what I know. R and B, like 487 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: this fusion of R and B and reggae, and so 488 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: that's where I started. And I started as an artist 489 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: named Siren. Huh yes, and that was my first artist name, Siren. Yeah, 490 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: but it's like a it's like a play on symphony. 491 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 1: Siren is my homeboy that was in Toronto at the time. 492 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: He was a rapper and he gave me that and 493 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: he used to call me Symphony. And then Siren came 494 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: along with the Sirens and they're the vocalists, and so 495 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: that's how that you like that. Then I found out 496 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: it was a porn star and I had to change 497 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: that name. 498 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 6: So then that's probably why he liked it. I wasn't 499 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 6: gonna say nothing. 500 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 3: I didn't know it spoke to you though, would you 501 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 3: say about like the cards? And then did you say 502 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 3: something that just in the. 503 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: Very young brand? But yeah, So so I started making 504 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 1: music with with in like his house, and again it 505 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: was very intimate and I learned a lot again about 506 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: singing and we were creating music. And then I got 507 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: in with Mike City and that early early, and then 508 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: I got in with Mike City and Mike's City was 509 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: it was like studying under a master. Then I realized 510 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: I didn't know shit. Like then I was like, oh, 511 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: I got to learn a lot. I have to learn 512 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,479 Speaker 1: a lot, and Mike taught me a lot and we 513 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: created some amazing records and Mike's City when I first 514 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,719 Speaker 1: got brought to him, Mike City said to me he 515 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: was listening to me singing because we were like chopping 516 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: it up at first, and then you know, you have 517 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: that meeting and then they're like, all right, let me 518 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: hear you say something, right, So then I sang something 519 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: and Mike City just stopped and he goes, damn, you 520 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: could sing. I don't know what I was expected to 521 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: hear you sing. And he's like, but you know what's 522 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: really special about you mail? He says your tone. And 523 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: that was the first time I understood why I loved 524 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: artists like India Ari and Sam Cook, Gladys Knight. 525 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 6: Tone. 526 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: There's a tone, and so Whitney, I mean, Whitney Houston 527 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: to me is the sweetest tone. So so when Mike 528 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: City said that, then again I came back to the 529 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 1: singing nurse. Who are you? What are you going to be? 530 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: What is your voice? What do you? What do you represent? 531 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: And then I was like, you got you got a tone, 532 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: so don't worry about anything else. Your tone is your identity. 533 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: Stay that. 534 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 4: So that's but you don't have a you don't have 535 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 4: a deal or anything. 536 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 6: You just you're going to make am. 537 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: I'm going to make demos, going to make demos. And 538 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: in that time too, and in that time too, like 539 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: I can't even forget. I'm there's so much I went 540 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: through in that time, like started working with the underdogs, 541 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: even in that time too, being that the underdog is 542 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: a Harvey Harvey over there taking me in and singing 543 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: backgrounds on like movie scores and using my voice in 544 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: that way, and meeting James Fontler Roy for the first time, 545 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: you know, and being like, you're incredible. You're an incredible person. 546 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: And I want to share this story too because I 547 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: always I always want to say this because James font 548 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: Lore to me is just the goat. According to this podcast, 549 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: I'm the coldest motherfuckers ever live. There will be what 550 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: did he say? There will be a chill in the 551 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: air after I'm gone. One of the hardest lines that's 552 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: ever been said. But truly I met James in that 553 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: time too, and you know, you know what James said 554 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: to me, and it never never left me. He said, 555 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: he said, I don't want to write like one of 556 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: the biggest songs in history. And this is before he 557 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: had any like big cuts, this is before no air, 558 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: this is before all of that. And he was like, 559 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: I want to write one of the biggest songs ever. Now. 560 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: We were right across the street from that studio, that 561 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: wing Spot, you know that wing Spot used to be 562 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: across from that, and we were eating and he was like, yeah, 563 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: I want to write one of the biggest songs. And 564 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: I was like, He's like, I want to write a 565 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: song like his biggest happen be birthday. I want people 566 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: everywhere in the world to sing my song. And I 567 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: just remember being like they will, Like I just saw 568 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: the greatness in James Fauntleroy just at Knubie coming into 569 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: the game, being like what and he was just so 570 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: kind and so sweet, and I was like, oh my God, 571 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: like your your greatness. So like I was around a 572 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: lot of amazing people from from the Underdog's Dupes and 573 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: and Mike's city and theot these times when I didn't 574 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: have a deal, and this is how I'm being introduced 575 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: to the music industry. Like I was just so happy 576 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: to be there. Yeah, so happy to be there. You know, 577 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: all of this is happening in La. All this is 578 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: happening in LA. And then and then I and then 579 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: I pivoted to New York. 580 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 6: First. 581 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 4: I came to LA first, Okay, because it would seem 582 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 4: like it would make more sense to go to New 583 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 4: York first. 584 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, because my team at the time was based in LA. 585 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: And so actually when I first, very very very first 586 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: left La Toronto, I went to Oakland. I went to 587 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: the Bay Area because my manager at the time she 588 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: was from Oakland and so she kind of dropped me 589 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: off there and was like, Hey, you're going to go 590 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: into like artists development, and so I was taking dance classes. 591 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: I was really working on like body movement and performance. 592 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: Like I was learning about all the things that goes 593 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: in which is a dying art these days. 594 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's the reason why you're still here. 595 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out, shout out to the real ones. So 596 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Like there was a lot of 597 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: development in finding where I was going to, Where was 598 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: my creative team, Where did my voice live? What songs 599 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: that I want to sing? And I remember I remember 600 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: sitting on the floor in a hotel room with my 601 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: manager at the time, and we were sitting there and 602 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: we were taking these meetings, and there was like this 603 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: disconnect from people not really knowing what to do with 604 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,479 Speaker 1: me vocally or production wise or whatever, like labels, like 605 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: what do we do? What do we do? And then 606 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: it was when I went to New York and then 607 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: I linked up with Andrea Markin and that's where the 608 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: sonic that became the amazing, amazing legendary. May she rest 609 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: in Paradise forever? 610 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 3: Am? 611 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: I mean that I get very emotional thinking about her 612 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: because I finally found someone who understood me and knew 613 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: what to do with my voice. And again I was 614 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: just so grateful to be under someone so gifted and talented. 615 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: And she was also Guyanese and she was in New York, 616 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: and we understood each other. She had a big voice 617 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: like me, She could sing and write anything, so she 618 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: really took me under her wing. And then I felt 619 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: like I had found my musical collaborator. And that's the 620 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: birth of it kills me. And that's the birth of 621 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: the whole first album, The Bridge, And you know, she 622 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: understood what it was, that what I wanted to be. 623 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to be a big voice, but I was 624 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: a young girl and I wanted to not be labeled 625 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: into one box and I wanted to bridge genres. And 626 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: I grew up listening to Sam Cook and Lauren Hill 627 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: and so I wanted to wrap and do throwback retro 628 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: mixed with R and B and hit like I Want. 629 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: And she just got it and she understood it, and 630 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: that's really what the first album was about. It was 631 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: called The Bridge because there were so many different sonics 632 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: on there, bridging genres, bridging time, eras, bridging you know, conversations, 633 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: and it was just it was a really important time. 634 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: So that was a lot of late nights in the studio. 635 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 6: Are you living in New York at this point? 636 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: No, I'm still living in Toronto. I'm still living in Toronto, 637 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: and I'm just going back in and living sleeping on 638 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: my uncle's couch and hotels when there's a budget for it, 639 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: or like at. 640 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 4: The point you signed, Wait, so you you did it 641 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,959 Speaker 4: kills me before you signed? 642 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: So I did it kills me. Before I signed Oh wow, yes, yeah, 643 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: I was signed to a production company. 644 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, the production company, the managers, they knew a lot of. 645 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: People, they really, they really did. And you know, and 646 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: shout out to Jay Brown too, he was a part 647 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: of that, because he was a part of that. He's 648 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: the one who brought me to Mike Mike City, you know. 649 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: So there was there was a lot of people who 650 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: and and that's one of the reasons why my mom was, 651 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: like my Guyanese mother who never let me do anything, 652 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: was like, I guess I'm gonna let you go explore 653 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: what this looks like, you know. And I think about 654 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: that even too, Like my parents only knew anything about education, 655 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: you know, Like, what do you mean you're going to 656 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: pursue music. I mean, my dad artist hard artist at 657 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: heart for sure, but you know, the idea of pursuing 658 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: a career in music, Like for my family, I'm the 659 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: first to even think about that, right. It's my parents 660 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: didn't have a television growing up, you know what I mean. 661 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: So like that's that's that's a crazy thing. So you know, 662 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: even now, going back to my parents giving me the 663 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: permission and the grace to go knowing that they were 664 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: probably terrified to let me do that, you know, and 665 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: put all your eggs in this basket of music and 666 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: what does that mean? 667 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 6: You know? 668 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,239 Speaker 1: And by the way, this is the craziest part. I 669 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: was doing college at the same time. 670 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 6: You actually did go to school. 671 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: I did go to school. I was doing college at 672 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: the Saint So after the Girl Group, I said to 673 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: my parents, if it didn't work out, I was going 674 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: to go to college. So I started college. And then 675 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 1: during college is when I met my production management company. 676 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: And then I left And so then I was going 677 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: back and forth and doing all these things during breaks 678 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 1: or like summers or like whatever. I had some time. 679 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 4: And how long is that process from leaving Toronto still 680 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,919 Speaker 4: in school, but then getting your deal. 681 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 1: It was about four years? About four years? Yeah, four years. 682 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 6: This whole time you're still living and I'm still living 683 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 6: at home. 684 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still living at home. 685 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 6: You know. 686 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: When I came to the States, I would crash at 687 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: my manager's house or like I had family in New York. 688 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 1: I would crash with them. And then you know, when 689 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: I started shopping, we got it kills me, recorded it 690 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: kills me, and we were like, all right, it's time, 691 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 1: it's time to go, time to go for the d 692 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: and uh. And we took those songs and we went 693 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: into these meetings, and I took a bunch of meetings 694 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: and played it Kills Me for a bunch of labels, 695 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: and a lot of them did not know. 696 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 3: Next question, next question. 697 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: They didn't know, they didn't see it, they didn't know. 698 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: And then I was in there singing that song too, 699 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: so it's not like, can you really do this? No, 700 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 1: I'm singing it, so you know. It was I think 701 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: a lot of the feedback and not even I think 702 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: I know because they said it. They were like, you 703 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: don't like you. These songs feel too grown for you, 704 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: like too old for you, Like you're like R and 705 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: B like big Ballad, Like why do you want to 706 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: do that when you could be more of a pop art? 707 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: And I was like, because I'm a singer, you're too talented. 708 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm a sing because I want to sing. I want 709 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: to sing, Like why I don't want to not sing? 710 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: I want to sing. I want to Like do you 711 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: know who I used to fall asleep to? 712 00:35:58,520 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 7: Is? 713 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: I used to listen to Whitney Hugh. I used to 714 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: dream about having a voice like that what Like, So 715 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: now I get it kills me? And I'm like, I'm 716 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: finally singing to the capacity in the range that I 717 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 1: know I can, and you're telling me that I shouldn't. 718 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: And it was just so disappointing. It was really heartbreaking 719 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: until I met Steve Rifkin and I walked into SRC 720 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: Records and we played it Kills Me, and he played 721 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 1: it kills Me thirteen times in that meeting, thirteen times 722 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 1: back to Beck to Beck. He was so excited. He 723 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 1: was so excited, and he just said, oh no, you 724 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: can't leave. I have a showcase tomorrow. You need to 725 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: be in it. He was doing a showcase for his 726 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: New Towns because SRC had just started and it was 727 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: cra Acon was on the label. Tammy Chin who else 728 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: Chantelle French Montana was like a part of that whole, 729 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: Like it was like a hole. It was crazy. Asher 730 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: Roth like this was like a you know, and Steve 731 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: came from hip hop. So now I'm walking in as 732 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: this R and B girl into this you know, hip 733 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: hop label, and I'm like, what am I going to 734 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: do here? But he got it. He had the passion, 735 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: He had the the yes like yes, yes, yes, we're 736 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: doing this, and he didn't let me leave and I 737 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: stayed that weekend and he gave me a contract that weekend. 738 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 1: He had the paperwork sent over and he was like, 739 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 1: I want you to make the album that you want 740 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 1: to make. He said, go make it. He said, go 741 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: make it. And then we finished making the Bridge. And 742 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: that's how we finished making the Bridge shout out, you know, 743 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: still doing it too, like you know, and Steve just 744 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 1: was so supportive, like everything that we wanted to do. 745 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: Like Steve was like, yeah, let's go. You need to 746 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: go on this tour. Okay, cool, you know, like all 747 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 1: the things. But you know, one funny fact is after 748 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 1: I got my record deal and I went back home, 749 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 1: I got stuck in Canada and I couldn't come back 750 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: to the state. Well not, I overstayed it because now, 751 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: like I had been going back and forth, you know, 752 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: I wasn't working technically, you know, so now look at this. 753 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: So now I'm going to immigration to go back and 754 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 1: they're like what are you going to do? And I'm like, oh, 755 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to finish my album and they're like your 756 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: album and I'm like yeah, and they're like, you're a 757 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: recording artist. And I was like, yeah, like I got 758 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: a record deal. And they were like, where's your visa? 759 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 8: I was like, what what do you mean, cat? I 760 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 8: was like, I got a visa, I got a mastercre No. 761 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: They they were like, you have a recording, you have 762 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: a contract, like you you are, you're your your intention 763 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,240 Speaker 1: is to make money. We can't let you into this country. 764 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: You have a contract. And I was like, but like 765 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: I was traveling with my documents, Like I was like, no, 766 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: I'm legitimate, like I. 767 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,439 Speaker 6: They were like, I just didn't. 768 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know, and no one really 769 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: knew at the time. And so then I was stuck 770 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: in Canada for eight months no, while my visa was 771 00:38:59,480 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: getting cleared. 772 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 6: Yeah it's eight months months. 773 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 1: So all you had to do, though is just be 774 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,439 Speaker 1: like I'm just going yeah, but you know, I could 775 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: have I could have said that, but if at that 776 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: reason they had then like because if there was press 777 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: or anything that had gotten released and they had found it, 778 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: then I'd have been really really so they you know. 779 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: So so that also then was like momental momental momentum, 780 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 1: and it was like oh, slow down again, slow down, 781 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,879 Speaker 1: So you know, it was it was an interesting time, 782 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 1: but we ended up getting the work visa. Then became 783 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: an Alien of Extraordinary Ability on a O one. I 784 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,720 Speaker 1: love that title forever. Yeah, that's what A one is, 785 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 1: an Alien of extraordinary ability. So back to what you 786 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: were asking, that was another time somebody said you're extraordinary. 787 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 1: The government told me alien of extraordinary ability. But you know, 788 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,800 Speaker 1: it was a whole bunch of petitioning and like people 789 00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: had to be like, yeah, we vouch for her, the label, 790 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: all that's stuff. So no, it was a eight eight months, 791 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: eight months. 792 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 3: Eight months. I mean, somebody just needs to look on 793 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 3: the desk and is harmless. So the goddamn paper it was. 794 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 1: It was a lot of surprise. 795 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 6: It was. 796 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 1: It wasn't listen, it's immigration, as we know, a hot 797 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 1: topic these days, it is, for sure. So so yeah, 798 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: so you know, so then I got my visa and 799 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: then I was down here and then it was just 800 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: like all right, let's go, let's go finish the album, 801 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: finish the bridge. 802 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 6: And so for that eight months though you're not recording, 803 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 6: you're not doing you just know home. 804 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: I'm home, I'm recording in my closet. 805 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 6: You got your little jail, b. 806 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: I had my little jail bid. Yeah, have you got 807 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: a little. 808 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 3: Money in your pocket though too? Because you got your 809 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 3: you got. 810 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,479 Speaker 1: A couple of dollars, a couple of dollars, a couple 811 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 1: of dollars. 812 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,919 Speaker 6: You didn't move out, stayed stay in parents house. 813 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 3: Now do people know, like you know, people know, like 814 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,879 Speaker 3: in your commune, your circle knowed, you know, you got 815 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,800 Speaker 3: to you kind of you kind of popping down and 816 00:40:59,400 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 3: they did. 817 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: But I'm still living at my mama's house, so like 818 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,959 Speaker 1: you know, it's like but also you have to remember 819 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: I'm Canadian, so like it's very very humble, very like yeah, 820 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 1: like at that time, it's nice, Oh my god, I 821 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,360 Speaker 1: got got money. I was paying off debts. That's what 822 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: I did with my money because I was responsible. Okay 823 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: I was. I'm not and that is why we were both. 824 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:24,919 Speaker 1: That is why you are you and you are great 825 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 1: for being you. 826 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 6: Debts the strip club. 827 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 1: I am a young woman in my early twenties. Like 828 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: in my parents' house, they are immigrants, remember, Like there 829 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: was no flashing, Like there was nothing I was flashing, 830 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: but I was recording in my closet and because I 831 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 1: had actually put out, I had put out a reggae 832 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: song called Somebody come get me first. It's like a 833 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: single off of like a one off that was on 834 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 1: like reggae gold and no I was, no I was. 835 00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: So they put it out under siren because because uh, 836 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 1: that's how I recorded it, and it was so not 837 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,240 Speaker 1: not that sor sion Tank knows a different siren. 838 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,799 Speaker 3: Now, okay, I don't know who that is. 839 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,320 Speaker 1: I don't know who that is. Sorry to that woman, 840 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 1: now you curious, don't do it. 841 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 3: Don't do it. 842 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: But yes, there was a song. And so what I 843 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: was doing in that time was I was recording doub 844 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,760 Speaker 1: plates in my in my closet for all the reggae 845 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: sounds and all the you were cooking. I was cooking 846 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 1: with my clothes being the sound. It was wild. There's 847 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: wild times. But yeah, then I got stuck and then 848 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: I came out to the stage. Year this is two 849 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 1: thousand and eight. 850 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay, yeah, so. 851 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 6: You are already out of the second group that we didn't 852 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 6: mention the Oh. 853 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 1: It wasn't really a group. Everybody loves this story, but 854 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,840 Speaker 1: it's not really replied. Go ahead, because everybody asked the 855 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,359 Speaker 1: love it. It's a good sound bite. 856 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, you're like a fake group. 857 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 1: I was in a fake group. I was in a collective, 858 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: a collective collective. I was in a collective with with Drake. Okay, guys, 859 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 1: let's let's get it out there, because it's all over 860 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,359 Speaker 1: the good and anyways. But yeah, this was before he 861 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 1: was rapping. This was before I had a deal. And 862 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 1: my manager, my manager at the time, like we had 863 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,840 Speaker 1: all connected again, remember the people that I told you 864 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,840 Speaker 1: that and then my manager throw they had all connected 865 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: us with a bunch of people. And then I had 866 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 1: met Drake when he was just on television but was 867 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 1: embarking into rap. And so we would do these little 868 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 1: live performances at this like supper club in Toronto. 869 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 6: And but never recording anything. 870 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: Never recorded anything, just live. We'd cover songs, we'd perform 871 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 1: our own records, like some of the songs that I 872 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: was recording and demoing, and that's what I was doing 873 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 1: in the States. I would practice some of those songs, 874 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 1: singing them live. And there was another vocalist in there 875 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,839 Speaker 1: by the name of Voice, and then a keyboard player 876 00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 1: named d Ten who still plays it goes on tour 877 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 1: with with Drake. But it was a really beautiful time 878 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 1: because for me, I felt like I had known of 879 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 1: the cardinal officials, you know what I mean, like those Yeah, 880 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 1: Julie Black's like Socrates and Chocolate Air and these dudes 881 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: in Toronto, and then of course Deborah Cox and to 882 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 1: me and all the Canadians that had come before me. 883 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:24,240 Speaker 1: But I didn't have my own like crew, okay outside 884 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,839 Speaker 1: of the girl group when we first started. But that 885 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 1: time was just really beautiful to meet other artists in 886 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,840 Speaker 1: the city that were just so talented and clearly talented 887 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 1: because he's gone on to become who he is, So 888 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:41,240 Speaker 1: you know, again, that's a really another another story. It's crazy. 889 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 1: I always forget there's so many really beautiful stories in 890 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,360 Speaker 1: the chapters until people ask, you know. And that was 891 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: a part of that too. So you know, we never 892 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: we we have always had visions of going to and 893 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 1: that was before the Mike Citi era era. That was 894 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 1: right going into the Mike City era. So that was 895 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,760 Speaker 1: that was a really like educational time, like a really 896 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 1: fun time just to perform live in the city. 897 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 4: And are you performing R and B stuff? Are you 898 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 4: performing more dance? 899 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: No, I'm performing R and B. I'm performing R and B. 900 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 1: So when I worked with Dopps, that was just what 901 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 1: we were creating the song, like had R and B 902 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 1: had reggae vibes, but I was still singing R and 903 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,760 Speaker 1: B melodies, you know, but the music had reggae vites. 904 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, the R and B songs, I was covering songs. 905 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:32,240 Speaker 1: I used to sing fantasias and of the Geto truth 906 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 1: is that one. I love that song. And we used 907 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: to just cover cover songs. It was like it was 908 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:45,319 Speaker 1: like we were entertainment basically for the Yes, exactly, exactly 909 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,439 Speaker 1: exactly so that it was it was a good time. 910 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 1: It was a good time, sacred time. 911 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,319 Speaker 3: So and it kills me. 912 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:54,839 Speaker 6: The first single, so give It. 913 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 1: To Me Right, is actually the first give Yeah, that 914 00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 1: was the song. I did that with Andrew and Martin 915 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: as well, and that one was sampled the Zombies Time 916 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,799 Speaker 1: of the season. It's the time. This seas doom, Doom, Doom, 917 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 1: and there was like that baseline was really popular at 918 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 1: that time because there was an artist out of the 919 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,720 Speaker 1: UK named Duffy that came out and she was also 920 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 1: in the same thing, and Amy Winehouse was a huge 921 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 1: inspiration and like this was that time of music. So 922 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:19,840 Speaker 1: give It to Me Right came out and that was 923 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,879 Speaker 1: the first single and then It Kills Me followed after 924 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 1: and then It Kills Me came out and that was 925 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 1: really like the the Rocket that was the hit. Yeah, 926 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 1: that was the one. 927 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 6: At this point, you in America? You living here now? 928 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 3: Yes? 929 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,720 Speaker 1: No, No, I'm still back and forth, like I'm still 930 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: back and forth like before. Okay, so yeah, like it 931 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:46,439 Speaker 1: was La. It was New York, Toronto, back and forth, 932 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 1: back and forth, back and forth. So like I always 933 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: was going back and forth for years. I was going 934 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,319 Speaker 1: back and forth even once the record took off. Even 935 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 1: once the record took Once the record took off, then 936 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,319 Speaker 1: I was gone everywhere. Then I was just out of 937 00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: a suitcase. I was on the rock, but I would 938 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 1: always go back home to Toronto. That was always home. 939 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 6: Who's your first tour with? 940 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 1: My first tour was Kanye West and Kanye Glow in 941 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 1: the Dark yep. Oh, it was so fun was Dark Tours. 942 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 1: I was on the European leg of the Glow in 943 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 1: the Dark tour. 944 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 6: Yeah. 945 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 4: And that's your first time on any form of a 946 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 4: tour at all? 947 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 1: Arenas of course arenas. Yeah, it was. It was quite so. 948 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 6: How was your stage setup? 949 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:29,760 Speaker 1: This is amazing? 950 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 6: Okay. 951 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 1: My stage setup was a three piece band and two 952 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 1: background singers with an iPod run the ox play the 953 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 1: tracks have the bad play on top. And that was 954 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 1: our set. Yep, that was our set and we oh 955 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 1: the iPod you remember I remember what time? 956 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 6: Yeah? 957 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:54,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, box chord right like, and I'm the Oh, I'm 958 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 1: the one of many openers. It was me. Kid Cutty 959 00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 1: was on their consequence, mister Hudson, the Roots. Yeah it was. 960 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 1: It was good. The Roots were actually on tour, so 961 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 1: they didn't do every every city, but yeah, me, Kid Cutty, 962 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,919 Speaker 1: mister Hudson, Yay, it was. And I was the only 963 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,359 Speaker 1: female artist. It was the only female artist. And then 964 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 1: I'm R and B like this in this space, so 965 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 1: I'm bringing a different energy. So I knew every night 966 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 1: you gotta win. 967 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 6: You gotta win, you gotta win the crowd over. 968 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 1: You don't get an opportunity to lose. Like this, You're 969 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 1: being introduced to Kanye's audience. First of all, Kanye was 970 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 1: one of my favorite artists at the time, Like just 971 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,839 Speaker 1: I was in awe like a true fan. So I 972 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,280 Speaker 1: get on that stage every night and I just knew 973 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,879 Speaker 1: that that preparing for that tour taught me so much 974 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:49,319 Speaker 1: about the art of performance, because get out there and 975 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 1: win them over every time. You don't get this might 976 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 1: if this is your only time, get out there. And 977 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 1: I don't care how long you got. You got fifteen minutes, 978 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 1: you got twenty minutes. You better give it everything cook, 979 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,400 Speaker 1: and I mean back to back. You gotta have a 980 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,840 Speaker 1: cover in there. You got to let people know that, 981 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 1: like you, you're here. And so it was good. I 982 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 1: was doing well every single night. And then it was 983 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:15,360 Speaker 1: the last show of the tour and then in Versi 984 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:24,360 Speaker 1: Arena in Paris and we're playing and the iPod is 985 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 1: rested on some sort of monitor or bass and it 986 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:32,320 Speaker 1: jumps and skips and the track cuts out in Versy Arena, 987 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 1: thousands of people, it's like fifteen thousand people. I'm like, oh, 988 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 1: you trained for it. So what do I start doing? 989 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 1: I start singing a cappella? Oh yeah, I start singing 990 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 1: killing me softly a cappella while they fix that shit 991 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 1: behind me. 992 00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 3: What future more about you? 993 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,240 Speaker 1: Oh no, he's playing. 994 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 3: We're here, Melanie. You've You've come all away from Canada 995 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:29,280 Speaker 3: to bless us with your gifts as a singing nurse. 996 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 3: Sounded weird at first, but now I got it. My 997 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:40,880 Speaker 3: mind just plays tricks on me. Sister siren. Amen, we 998 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 3: will not search yet, you will. 999 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 1: Don't do it. 1000 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,120 Speaker 3: But now that people want to know the music that 1001 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:54,680 Speaker 3: has touched you, that have influenced you to become the 1002 00:50:54,800 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 3: artist and singer and entrepreneur that you are, called that shore. 1003 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 6: Where we gone? 1004 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 3: Top five? Your top five, Top five, your top five. 1005 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:28,440 Speaker 2: O Pas singers, Burreathy songs. We got to know, Pa 1006 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,400 Speaker 2: thought you go, you're on the shoe. 1007 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 7: Let everybody know your tap tip, Yes, your tap f. 1008 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 1: Oh such a chocolate. That more good? That that was incredible. 1009 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,840 Speaker 1: That was I couldn't even have imagined it would have 1010 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 1: been that great in person. 1011 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:16,720 Speaker 6: To see what happened when you start rapping. 1012 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 1: Wow, okay, okay, that was that was amazing. 1013 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 3: Your Top five R and B. 1014 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:42,759 Speaker 1: Singers, Top five R and B singers, Stevie Wonder, I 1015 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 1: like that, Sam Cook. 1016 00:52:49,640 --> 00:53:03,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, music, so child, I love music, so music. 1017 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 1: So Whitney Houston, Whitney Houston and Lauren Hill. 1018 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:14,799 Speaker 6: Yes, it's a great. 1019 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,280 Speaker 3: List, Hilly. 1020 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 4: It's great, high level vocals, viby and singing with a purpose. 1021 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I found I'm following you. 1022 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:28,239 Speaker 3: I'm following you. 1023 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:34,440 Speaker 1: But wait, I really I really was my top c 1024 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:42,080 Speaker 1: because I mean I said it was hard because Whitney. 1025 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 1: In my mind, you know, Whitney, She's kind of in 1026 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 1: a category of her own, right, Like it's like pop. 1027 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 1: You know when you say singers, now when you say 1028 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,759 Speaker 1: like artists, it's a little different. Because truly, in my 1029 00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 1: top five artists, I'm gonna put Brandy in there because 1030 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:07,520 Speaker 1: brand is Brandy. Brandy, Brandy vocally is one of my 1031 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:08,160 Speaker 1: favorite artist. 1032 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,080 Speaker 6: What is the thing they put it when you got 1033 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:10,760 Speaker 6: in America? 1034 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,080 Speaker 1: What kind of an alien of extraordinary ability? 1035 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 3: That is? 1036 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,480 Speaker 1: She is a resident? She is a citizen of extraordinary 1037 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,880 Speaker 1: one hundred? Got it right there, Brandy? 1038 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:24,439 Speaker 6: Got it? 1039 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:25,000 Speaker 1: Brandy? 1040 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,439 Speaker 6: Yet, that's fine? 1041 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 1: Okay? 1042 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:29,319 Speaker 6: Top six? 1043 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,720 Speaker 3: That your top five R and B songs. 1044 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 1: This one I wasn't prepared for Top five R and 1045 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 1: B songs. A Song for You by Donnie Hathaway. 1046 00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,000 Speaker 6: Yep, kick it off a head and kick it off. 1047 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:56,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I'm overjoyed by Stevie Wonder. 1048 00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:58,719 Speaker 3: My Castle of Love. 1049 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,239 Speaker 1: Those the music and that could just make me cry 1050 00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,640 Speaker 1: every time every time. 1051 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:08,439 Speaker 6: Hm hmm. 1052 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 1: Let me dig deep into my well of songs that 1053 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:22,320 Speaker 1: I love to sing. This is this is tough songs 1054 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 1: are tough for me. Brandy, It's uh. I think now 1055 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:31,880 Speaker 1: I'm drawing a blank, but I can hear it in 1056 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,840 Speaker 1: my mind. Is uh is it when you touch me? 1057 00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:35,319 Speaker 3: Yes? 1058 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:41,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, mm hmm, my Mama, I'm gonna go 1059 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:45,840 Speaker 1: with killing me softly because it's Lauren. I'm going with 1060 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,480 Speaker 1: my artists, you know what I'm saying. And then. 1061 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,720 Speaker 6: Mm hmm, it's. 1062 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:57,919 Speaker 1: Gonna be Anita, Baker, raptor. 1063 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 3: Waiting I was. It's like the brick however you were doing. Yeah, 1064 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:09,600 Speaker 3: whatever you were doing, you were tapping into something. You know. 1065 00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,600 Speaker 1: I have to go into a place. It's emotional for me, 1066 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,440 Speaker 1: So I think about the songs, how I like to 1067 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,960 Speaker 1: sing them, or where they take me to, where's the 1068 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:22,680 Speaker 1: place I am? And I just remember listening to Anita 1069 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,360 Speaker 1: with my mom playing it in the house on Saturday 1070 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,880 Speaker 1: mornings and just thinking like, oh. 1071 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,360 Speaker 6: It is that a feeling? 1072 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:30,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1073 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:32,080 Speaker 3: It is one hundred. 1074 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:37,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. I like that list. Love it great. You approved, 1075 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:47,680 Speaker 1: we're celebrating it's all champions and yeah, we like that list. 1076 00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:53,920 Speaker 3: Build your Vulturon, your super r and b artists. Who 1077 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,520 Speaker 3: are you going to get the vocal from the performance 1078 00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:00,399 Speaker 3: style from the styling from and the passion of the 1079 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:04,200 Speaker 3: artists to make your super R and B artist. What 1080 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,360 Speaker 3: one vocal are you going to grab? 1081 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:18,680 Speaker 1: The one vocal I'm going to grab is I'm gonna 1082 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:19,160 Speaker 1: grab Mic. 1083 00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:24,080 Speaker 3: I knew when you started breathing you were going to 1084 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,720 Speaker 3: because like that was a breath that said, I'm going 1085 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,800 Speaker 3: to go, I'm going to the moon with this breath. 1086 00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to grab mic. That's the voice the moon. 1087 00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:37,280 Speaker 6: I'm nice. 1088 00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:39,360 Speaker 3: Here we go. 1089 00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:46,880 Speaker 1: Performance style, oh, performance style on. 1090 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:48,240 Speaker 3: Stage, how they do it? 1091 00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:49,960 Speaker 6: Mm hmm. 1092 00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:01,880 Speaker 1: This is very very tough Bruno mars Ha. 1093 00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:09,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Bruno be cooking, tough on be cooking. 1094 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,960 Speaker 3: He's tough on stage, you know what I mean. 1095 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 4: He's and he told you he ain't scared to get 1096 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 4: about here and do what he does. 1097 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:28,200 Speaker 3: He's business pres underrated dancer. Yes he's it's not spoken about. 1098 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,919 Speaker 3: They don't talk about it. That boy can dag. 1099 00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:34,880 Speaker 6: He really comes from the school. 1100 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:42,560 Speaker 3: He went through the nice high level, nice performer. Yeah, 1101 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:52,440 Speaker 3: fire show style of the artist, the drip Eric m hmm, 1102 00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:54,120 Speaker 3: gonna dance. 1103 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:54,479 Speaker 6: And all them. 1104 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:03,240 Speaker 1: Anything is possible involved right them closed, You're. 1105 00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:10,280 Speaker 3: Right, you're right. I'm not going my voice Bruno performance. 1106 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:14,120 Speaker 1: I could even interchange that. I could I could interchange. 1107 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,120 Speaker 1: I could do Bruno voice and Mike stage. It could 1108 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:18,960 Speaker 1: be either or to be honest. 1109 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:23,240 Speaker 6: Well, yeah, dudes. 1110 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:28,160 Speaker 1: Close closes it. 1111 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 3: And the passion of the artist, the. 1112 00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:37,040 Speaker 1: Heart of the artist, Stevie Wonder a heart of gold. Yes, 1113 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:41,960 Speaker 1: it's very passionate that man is still out here doing 1114 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 1: God's work, God's work, his life's purpose work. After everything 1115 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,480 Speaker 1: that he has accomplished, he still gets out there with 1116 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:56,200 Speaker 1: so much love in his heart. That is something that 1117 00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,360 Speaker 1: I don't think that we see and feel enough of. 1118 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,600 Speaker 1: He's dedicated to it, and. 1119 01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,520 Speaker 3: You know it's different like I just he just Busher 1120 01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,200 Speaker 3: brought him out on this tour here in l A. 1121 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,120 Speaker 3: And he started singing, just him this piano, and I 1122 01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:14,680 Speaker 3: was like, Tank, you're not going to break down crying people, 1123 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:21,680 Speaker 3: chill out. I was talking, let it out. 1124 01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:24,160 Speaker 1: Everyone would understand. 1125 01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:28,240 Speaker 3: Everyone, It's cool, Stevie. And and we're at the in 1126 01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,800 Speaker 3: the v I P like high rise section, like all 1127 01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:32,160 Speaker 3: eyes on us. 1128 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:35,440 Speaker 6: They would they wouldn't understand. 1129 01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:39,000 Speaker 3: They would have been like Tank over there crying and saying, 1130 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:53,280 Speaker 3: you know, jealousy people people. It was. It was still 1131 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:57,200 Speaker 3: amazing it was still spiritual, it was still connected, it 1132 01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:00,520 Speaker 3: was it was yeah, yeah, do. 1133 01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:05,280 Speaker 1: You know that. Stevie Wonder once said I was in 1134 01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:09,320 Speaker 1: I was with him, and he once said, I listened 1135 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,440 Speaker 1: to my own music. He says, I listened to my 1136 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,720 Speaker 1: own music when I need to feel God. He said, 1137 01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 1: because everything that I've ever created has come from God. 1138 01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,320 Speaker 1: Because I don't have the gift of vision, so I 1139 01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,440 Speaker 1: only know this conversation with God and these gifts. So 1140 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,120 Speaker 1: I listened to myself when I need to feel close 1141 01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:34,680 Speaker 1: to God. Like that's why the passion and heart of 1142 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:44,640 Speaker 1: that person needs is needed in the world. Like, yeah, 1143 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,560 Speaker 1: it can only be gottee Stevie Steveland. 1144 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,720 Speaker 3: He said, ReBs in this guy, Oh, can we. 1145 01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:53,040 Speaker 1: Go back and talk about songs again? 1146 01:01:53,520 --> 01:02:01,120 Speaker 3: God could have only given him that vision. Hello, he 1147 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:02,960 Speaker 3: yet he didn't see no the turgical dances. 1148 01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:04,680 Speaker 6: Hello, get out of the tank. 1149 01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:05,560 Speaker 3: Okay, get. 1150 01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:08,200 Speaker 6: Stevie go kick ass. 1151 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:13,240 Speaker 1: Y'all got meat, y'all got thing. It's a thing. 1152 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:15,760 Speaker 3: People come up to me and tell me it's a thing. 1153 01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:16,560 Speaker 1: Don't you drag me. 1154 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,320 Speaker 6: Don't drag me into the Stevie looking at the tank. 1155 01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:24,880 Speaker 1: Stop Hello, mom, Yeah, I'm not gonna go into the 1156 01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:25,400 Speaker 1: depths of hell. 1157 01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:25,600 Speaker 5: Here. 1158 01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,440 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna stay right here. Yep, call you after. 1159 01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,760 Speaker 3: I ain't saying no nxs. Hey, I ain't saying no 1160 01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:38,200 Speaker 3: nat I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no names. 1161 01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:39,040 Speaker 2: Who was. 1162 01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:47,840 Speaker 3: What you did? Don't say? She ain't saying no names. 1163 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:57,880 Speaker 6: He Yep, we're here now, We're here now. 1164 01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,680 Speaker 4: We had a very very important part of the show, Wow, 1165 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,240 Speaker 4: will you tell us a story? Funny or fucked up? 1166 01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:08,720 Speaker 4: Are funny and fucked up? The only rule to the game, okay, 1167 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:10,000 Speaker 4: is you can't say no name. 1168 01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:19,640 Speaker 1: Okay, it's a little fucked up. Not gonna lie a 1169 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:25,280 Speaker 1: little fucked up. I was on a flight and I 1170 01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:29,520 Speaker 1: was sitting next to someone where we were discussing the 1171 01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:34,040 Speaker 1: event that we were just coming from, and we were 1172 01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:42,080 Speaker 1: talking about a particular person who I knew that I 1173 01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,400 Speaker 1: wasn't feeling at the time because I had once known 1174 01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:49,680 Speaker 1: this person very well and felt connected to this person, 1175 01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:53,400 Speaker 1: but a short few years later didn't feel connected to 1176 01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:57,640 Speaker 1: them anymore. And as we were having this conversation and 1177 01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:01,320 Speaker 1: this person was expressing their thoughts on this person as well, 1178 01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,560 Speaker 1: we didn't realize that there was a family member of 1179 01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:10,520 Speaker 1: the person that we were talking about sitting sitting behind us, 1180 01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:17,120 Speaker 1: right behind Oh this is great, right behind this. Yeah, 1181 01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:18,760 Speaker 1: so there was a confrontation. 1182 01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,600 Speaker 3: Mmmm no, oh okay, yeah, yeah, person says, so what 1183 01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,560 Speaker 3: you say they stood on business? But did I? 1184 01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:32,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very sorry you had to overhear that conversation. 1185 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:37,520 Speaker 1: But I do feel this way about this person, and 1186 01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm I am. The only thing I'm apologizing for is 1187 01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:42,400 Speaker 1: that you overheard it. And I'm really sorry that that happened. 1188 01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,440 Speaker 1: I should have been more mindful about where I was. 1189 01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:49,400 Speaker 1: And that was that. And then I saw that person 1190 01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:53,120 Speaker 1: a few years later and hadn't seen them for many 1191 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:58,320 Speaker 1: years in between, and and that person looked like they 1192 01:04:58,360 --> 01:04:59,880 Speaker 1: wanted to talk to me. And I was just like 1193 01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:05,240 Speaker 1: peace and love, got nothing and love for you and 1194 01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:09,960 Speaker 1: just kept it moving. And now that is a far 1195 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,000 Speaker 1: distant memory in our in our mass. 1196 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was. 1197 01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:14,480 Speaker 3: It was. 1198 01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:15,640 Speaker 1: It was uncomfortable. 1199 01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:20,000 Speaker 3: That is great. It was uncomfortable conversation mid flight. 1200 01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:21,920 Speaker 1: Oh no, it was in the airport after. 1201 01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,200 Speaker 6: Waited waited because they needed some space because also because the. 1202 01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:33,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, they waited, they waited, they waited, they waited. 1203 01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:35,160 Speaker 3: What was she saying in. 1204 01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,160 Speaker 1: Two a y that's that's where I know I was 1205 01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:44,480 Speaker 1: in to Yeah, yeah, to see I was in the 1206 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:48,840 Speaker 1: I was in the aisle. Yeah it was. And I 1207 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,040 Speaker 1: knew the family member so that it's not like I 1208 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:55,040 Speaker 1: didn't know that they were there. Ah, it was great, 1209 01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,320 Speaker 1: Yeah it was. It was. It's great now, it wasn't 1210 01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:01,520 Speaker 1: great at the time. I don't like I don't like drama, 1211 01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:03,439 Speaker 1: you know, and so I don't. 1212 01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:04,760 Speaker 3: You weren't doing it for drama. 1213 01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:05,920 Speaker 1: I wasn't doing it for drum. 1214 01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:10,360 Speaker 3: It's hard to be it's hard to know that that 1215 01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:11,360 Speaker 3: that person is right. 1216 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,480 Speaker 1: But you know what it did. It was back to 1217 01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:21,479 Speaker 1: my lessons of watch your mouth truly because you don't 1218 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,120 Speaker 1: know where you are and you don't know who's around 1219 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,760 Speaker 1: or who knows who. And that was a valuable lesson 1220 01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,240 Speaker 1: and I think that's a valuable lesson for anybody. But 1221 01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,440 Speaker 1: sometimes you just be talking. You're just like good it is. 1222 01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:34,760 Speaker 1: You don't really but if it's how you truly feel, 1223 01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:36,080 Speaker 1: it is it is. 1224 01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:41,520 Speaker 3: But I and it was a warranted conversation between you 1225 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:42,800 Speaker 3: and whoever else. 1226 01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:48,040 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, we were having you know, we were having a. 1227 01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:48,960 Speaker 3: It's kind of a privilege. 1228 01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:50,840 Speaker 1: It was like an opinion. It was like more of like. 1229 01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,640 Speaker 3: An kind of a privileged conversation in a sense. 1230 01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:58,440 Speaker 4: Not if I bought three c that part and they 1231 01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:01,240 Speaker 4: talked about my cousin, I'm gonna tap you on your 1232 01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,480 Speaker 4: shoulder and we get off display I'm not. 1233 01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,520 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm definitely I'm not because because but. 1234 01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,840 Speaker 1: That but that's but that's it now, I know no, 1235 01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:12,360 Speaker 1: But you know what the thing is though, it's because 1236 01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:13,320 Speaker 1: I knew the person. 1237 01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:18,520 Speaker 3: I know the person knew I thought you knew who 1238 01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:20,320 Speaker 3: they were, Okay, so. 1239 01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,880 Speaker 1: They came up to me and were like, that's how 1240 01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,680 Speaker 1: you feel, like yeah, Like I was just really surprised, 1241 01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,240 Speaker 1: like I I you know, I I've always thought so 1242 01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,040 Speaker 1: highly of you, and I was surprised, and I was like, hey, 1243 01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:34,480 Speaker 1: look I understand why you feel that way. I get it. 1244 01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:36,960 Speaker 1: And I was like, but I'm like, I'm really sorry 1245 01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,560 Speaker 1: that you overheard that conversation. I should have been more 1246 01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:42,040 Speaker 1: mindful about where I was. And I was like, I'm 1247 01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:46,040 Speaker 1: sure that was hurtful to hear. I'm so that was 1248 01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:48,160 Speaker 1: hurtful to hear. That's what I said, because you don't 1249 01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:51,080 Speaker 1: want to hear anybody talking about anybody about your people 1250 01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:52,880 Speaker 1: like that, Like I wasn't saying anything crazy. It was 1251 01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,439 Speaker 1: really just my own experience about how, like I said, 1252 01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,040 Speaker 1: I was once connected to this person, then how I 1253 01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:59,600 Speaker 1: felt very disconnected to this person based off of their actions. 1254 01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,840 Speaker 1: So you know it was not accepted. 1255 01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,680 Speaker 3: Yeah that's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. 1256 01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,080 Speaker 3: He was going in too. And this mother, let me 1257 01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:11,520 Speaker 3: tell you it was. 1258 01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:13,600 Speaker 1: You know what it was. It was It was. It 1259 01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:16,559 Speaker 1: was just it was. It was a conversation of tastes 1260 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:18,680 Speaker 1: and we were on the same tas if. 1261 01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,400 Speaker 3: Y'all were on the same page, you can imagine that. Yeah, 1262 01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:27,439 Speaker 3: I'm saying you you too. It was going up. Give 1263 01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:28,720 Speaker 3: me nothing, give me the jack and coke. 1264 01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:33,320 Speaker 1: The thing is I really like when they did that, 1265 01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:34,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like that was whack. They 1266 01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:35,719 Speaker 1: could have done that best. 1267 01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:39,919 Speaker 3: That one time it gets it gets it gets excited 1268 01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:50,160 Speaker 3: that well, Melanie, we have always valued your gifts, your presence, 1269 01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:55,080 Speaker 3: your friendship, your family, our family. We've been doing that 1270 01:08:55,120 --> 01:09:00,200 Speaker 3: a long time, and we are grateful for the opportunity, 1271 01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:05,120 Speaker 3: too to do a deep dive into where all of 1272 01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,519 Speaker 3: this comes from and then why it is the way 1273 01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:13,360 Speaker 3: it is. And we're happy, Number one that you're good 1274 01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:16,280 Speaker 3: and then we're happy number two that you're back. 1275 01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, good and back. I like that. 1276 01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:21,680 Speaker 3: We we're really excited about. 1277 01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:27,040 Speaker 1: That, like like you sing man, thank you. Thanks. 1278 01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:28,919 Speaker 3: That's exciting. 1279 01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,640 Speaker 1: Yeah that listen, that means a lot from from this 1280 01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:33,600 Speaker 1: room specifically. 1281 01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:34,360 Speaker 3: That's exciting. 1282 01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:36,000 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, guys. 1283 01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:40,160 Speaker 3: That keeps uh. You know, I'm I'm I'm always keeping score. 1284 01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:47,360 Speaker 3: I'm always keeping score. You on you on our side, 1285 01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:51,880 Speaker 3: You're on our Teamron, you know, you know, you know, 1286 01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:55,200 Speaker 3: you know what it is. You know what it is, 1287 01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,679 Speaker 3: and we just appreciate you. We support you and whatever 1288 01:09:58,720 --> 01:09:59,960 Speaker 3: you need from us, you always know that. 1289 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,320 Speaker 1: Thank you and thank you guys for creating this space. 1290 01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,920 Speaker 1: This is really important, really really important. Thank you. Thank 1291 01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,000 Speaker 1: you for holding space. Thank you for holding the time, 1292 01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:10,719 Speaker 1: because I told you I was coming, I was coming, 1293 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,960 Speaker 1: and now I'm here and I'll be back for sure. 1294 01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:15,000 Speaker 1: Thank you guys. 1295 01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:18,400 Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, Money is Tank Valentine and this is 1296 01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:22,880 Speaker 3: the Army Money Podcast, the authority on all things R 1297 01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:28,920 Speaker 3: and B. 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