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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Move the Sticks presented by FedEx Daniel Jeremiah here.

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Speaker 1: Draft week is finally here and I could not be

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Speaker 1: six three sixty series on Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert and

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Speaker 1: of the three sixty series where we take a deep

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Speaker 1: YouTube dot com Slash NFL podcasts. Well, there's so many

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Speaker 1: intriguing questions surrounding the draft. I recently had the opportunity

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Speaker 1: First of all, thank you guys for all jumping on

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Speaker 1: this um and uh I apologize for some of you

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Speaker 1: a wild, wild run up to this draft. I've never

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Speaker 1: Patrick Finley with the Chicago's Hunt Times. If the Bears

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Speaker 1: But that's an area he needs to clean up, and

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00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 1: he can make you miss. He can make you miss

431
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 1: after the catch. He's obviously got good burst, but not

432
00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,919
Speaker 1: quite as physical after the catch, and not quite as

433
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,200
Speaker 1: physical at the catch point in terms of going up

434
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 1: in traffic and making plays. I give Ceedee Lamb a

435
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 1: little bit of the edge there, and then we get

436
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,479
Speaker 1: to uh Henry Ruggs. You know, everybody knows about the speed,

437
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,879
Speaker 1: but I think what people lose sight of is this

438
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 1: kid has got natural hands. He's outstanding hands. He only

439
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,880
Speaker 1: dropped one ball this year. He attacks it. He trusts

440
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 1: his hands. Um. You think back to some of the

441
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 1: speed receivers we've seen go in the first round that

442
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 1: maybe people thought didn't live up to the building. Um.

443
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 1: You think about Darius Heyward Bay, you know he couldn't

444
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 1: catch in college. You look at Bashad Perriman, his hands

445
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,640
Speaker 1: were questionable, ted gain, very inconsistent hands. This kid has

446
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 1: that type of speed, but he catches everything and he's

447
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 1: extremely tough. He's just not as polished of a route

448
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 1: runner as the other two right now. Um, and that's

449
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 1: something I think he can he can get better at.

450
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 1: But it's a little bit of that is the curse

451
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 1: of speed, because when you're moving that fast, it is

452
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 1: hard to get in and out of breaks, um to

453
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 1: gear down. So that's always gonna be a little bit

454
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 1: of an issue. But Tyreek Hill has been the comparison

455
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 1: for him, and that's the blueprint for how you use him.

456
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 1: And I know a lot of teams are are looking

457
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,199
Speaker 1: for this type of player. Thank you. We'll take our

458
00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 1: next question from Leo Haggarty with kids Sport MAC team

459
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 1: running backs have been extremely get valued lately. Accept the

460
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 1: great ones. What trades made se Kwon Barkley a top

461
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 1: five pick? Well, I mean, first of all, he's a

462
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 1: he's a he's a freak athletic league, and then he

463
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 1: was involved in the passing game and you could see

464
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 1: what he could do in the passing game. So, um,

465
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,879
Speaker 1: you know, drafting or running back high is going to

466
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 1: get a lot of criticism for a lot of folks.

467
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 1: But to me, if you're somebody that can be a

468
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 1: weapon in the passing game as well in the run game,

469
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,400
Speaker 1: while we can you know, I don't know, that would

470
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 1: be the smartest thing in the world to get the

471
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 1: second contract with those players that's been proven out. I

472
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 1: think you can have a nice five or six year

473
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 1: run of extreme production, but you better be able to

474
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: come to a compete and be a difference maker in

475
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 1: the passing game. And Sae Kwon Barkley has that ability.

476
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,439
Speaker 1: So not only can he run with power, and not

477
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 1: only can he you know, hit some home runs with

478
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 1: his speed, he can make you miss, he can run

479
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 1: over you. But also he's somebody you've got to worry

480
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: about in the passing game as well. So you gotta

481
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 1: be complete to have val you with that position right now,

482
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,679
Speaker 1: just the way that it is a quick follow up

483
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 1: with that, when you're evaluating a players, especially a quarterback

484
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: like Jaylen Hurts, there's being a winner factor into that

485
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 1: evaluation at all. What it does for me. I know

486
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,239
Speaker 1: some people poke fun at that and laugh at it,

487
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: But when you've done nothing but win your whole life

488
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,719
Speaker 1: and you've played well in big moments, that that matters

489
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 1: to me at that position. Um So, I just think

490
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: that's contagious. You've got guys to understand what that environment

491
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 1: looks like, to understand what it takes in big moments.

492
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 1: So that yeah, absolutely, that helps. That helps the evaluation.

493
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 1: It's an easier sell in the draft room when you

494
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: have the team accomplishments to go along with the individual stuff. So,

495
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: um yeah, it matters to me at that position more

496
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: more than any other obviously. Thank you. We'll take our

497
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 1: next question from Rich Scarcello with reading Eagle. What do

498
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: you see is the strength and weaknesses of a couple

499
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: of pen steak guys, Gross Mattos and Handler. You know,

500
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: Grossmato's obviously start with the production. Um, he's got really

501
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: active hands. He's excellent with his hands. Um, he's outstanding

502
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 1: on loops and stunts and they move him around. He's

503
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 1: just got a really good knack and a good feel

504
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: as a pass rusher. I didn't see you know, dynamic

505
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: explosiveness in terms of his twitch. But you know he's

506
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 1: he wins off more technique and just an overall feel

507
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 1: and instincts and understanding. Uh, you know weakness. You know

508
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: he'll get stuck on blocks against the run, he'll get

509
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 1: moved around a little bit. But you're drafting him to

510
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: rush the quarterback with hammler Um. Start with the speed,

511
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 1: I mean, that's it jumps off the screen when you

512
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 1: watch him. Um, the Michigan game was was basically just

513
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: a highlight show. I'm still upset with him for what

514
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: he did the app State when he played against my

515
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: alma mater a couple of years ago. Uh, in that game.

516
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: But he's somebody. You can pitch him the ball on

517
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,199
Speaker 1: a on a fly sweep, you can get him the

518
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 1: ball over the top of coverage. There's a lot of

519
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: different things you can do with him the downside. And

520
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: he's not big. When he's under five nine hund eighty

521
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: pound own, Um, that's a challenge. And then just the

522
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: drops he's got. He's another one that's got some concentration drops.

523
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 1: He's got to find a way to clean that up

524
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 1: a little bit. So you know, lack of size, UM,

525
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: not being totally healthy, and the drops I think could

526
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: push him down a little bit lower than where he

527
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: should go. He's my fifty seventh player. Uh. Starting into

528
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: the process, he was much higher than that. So I

529
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: think somebody got a chance to get a deal with

530
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: this kid if he shows up healthy. Thank you. We'll

531
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: take our next question from Tom Rock with Newsday. It

532
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: seems like you ask four different scouts of evaluators who

533
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: the top offensive tackle is, and you get four different

534
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: answers wondering if you could sort of go through the

535
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: mall and and and rank them in your mind. And

536
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: I know he said Willison works uh for the Giants. Um,

537
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: that's probably what you project with their opinion, not necessarily yours. Uh,

538
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: you know who. And and to follow up on that,

539
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, is it strange to have four so tightly

540
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: packed in terms of their evaluation? Good question. Uh. The

541
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: way I see it, I have it is, you know,

542
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: even saying the big four I have, I have three

543
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: guys up there and then I have a little bit

544
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: of a gap. I'll give you the numbers. So Beckton

545
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 1: is my seventh player overall, Wills is my tenth. I

546
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 1: view that as kind of the top tier for me,

547
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: those two guys, and I think right behind them is

548
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 1: work Season, my thirteenth player, and then Andrew Thomas is

549
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: my eight teenth player. So I have four top twenty

550
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: guys in my opinion, but I think there's a little

551
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: bit of separation between those top three and then Andrew Thomas.

552
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: But I like, you know, Beckton is my top player. Um,

553
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: God didn't make many many like this. I mean, he's

554
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: he is the definition of freak. Um. He's to be

555
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: that big and to still be able to move the

556
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: way he does it is incredible. And he dominates in

557
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: the run game. Um, in the past game, even though

558
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: he's still working through you know some things technically, he's

559
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: so big and so long you can't get through him

560
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 1: and you can't get around him. And I've seen had

561
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: a chance to see some of the training stuff he's

562
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: been doing down there. Um, he's training with one of

563
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 1: the best offensive line guys in the country with Duke

564
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: manny Weather. And the job he does out of Dallas,

565
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: and you can see it in the video is just

566
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: this kid getting more comfortable and and and getting better

567
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: and better. So I think Jeddrick Wills on Day one.

568
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: You know the first day of practice is going to

569
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: be ahead of Beckton. Um. But I think Beckton the

570
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: upside is what puts him over the top for me,

571
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: So he's my top guy. Jeddrick Wills. It's just a

572
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: natural knee bender who's very explosive. He can get himself

573
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: in bad positions and find ways to recover with his athleticism.

574
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: He played the right tackle spot there at Alabama. You've

575
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: got a left handed quarterback, so that makes sense put

576
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 1: your best guy over there. Um. I think he's got

577
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: left tackle ability. I think he can he can kick

578
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 1: over there no problem, and somebody in the run game

579
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: can uproot players. Again. Just very explosive, very athletic player

580
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: who I think. So he's a top ten pick in

581
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: just about any year in my opinion. Tristo works. Tristan works.

582
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: When I first watched him, I thought he was gonna

583
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: be a guard um, just because he had some issues oversetting.

584
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: He got beat on a bunch of up and under moves,

585
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: which worried me and concerned me a little bit. But

586
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: I thought he got better as the year one along,

587
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: and then obviously the show that he put on the combine.

588
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: You see the athletics in there, and and you say, okay, well,

589
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 1: I know this guy's you know, he's got the ability

590
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,959
Speaker 1: to play, you know, to play better at tackle. So um,

591
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: that's where I moved him back out kept him at tackle.

592
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: He's somebody that can really move people in the run game. Um,

593
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: but he's just got to be a little bit more

594
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: patient past protection and continue to work and develop in

595
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: that area. But again, he's somebody with tremendous upside. Andrew Thomas,

596
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:48,719
Speaker 1: He's just a big, powerful, uh, run blocker. He creates

597
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: a lot of movement. When he gets his hands on you,

598
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: he can really move you. He uproots guys. But I

599
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: thought he was more of a one track player when

600
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: he struggled to adjust a little bit in space and

601
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: then and and uh and past protection, you get out

602
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: in front of you and stay square. He's fine. I

603
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: just I did not see that elite level of foot quickness.

604
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: And I thought when he sees some of the better

605
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: speed rushers in the NFL, UM that could give him

606
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,719
Speaker 1: a little bit of trouble. So that's why I had

607
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: him as the fourth guy. All Right, thank you. We'll

608
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: take our next question from Arnie Stapleton with Associated press.

609
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if you could speak to the the value

610
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: of versatility nowadays there's opposed to you know, some years

611
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: ago with guys like Simmons and McKinney and bond Um.

612
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: You know, they're they're multiple and uh is this kind

613
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: of a reaction to the um uh the up tempo

614
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: offenses or what? What do you think plays into this

615
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: evolution of the versatility being so valued nowadays? Yeah, it's

616
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: never been more important. You know, we used the phrase

617
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: and scouting we talk about position less players and and

618
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: that's where it's headed. You know where you You're not

619
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: gonna be labeling these guys anymore as a you know,

620
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: on offense, as are some of these guys receiver running back? Well, no,

621
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: they're just kind of their offensive weapons. You see. Um,

622
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: I'll watch Austin Ekeler every week with the Chargers calling

623
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: those games. You see what he does as a receiver.

624
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: We've seen obviously Christian McCaffrey and what those guys do.

625
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: Um Deebo Samuel who's a wide receiver who can also

626
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: play running back. Um, That's that's where the value is.

627
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: And then defensively, you've got to find a way to

628
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: match up with those. So you see guys like Derwin James, Um.

629
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: You see what we see here with Isaiah Simmons, where

630
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: it allows you to keep your guys on the field

631
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: and not get manipulated where they can they can sub

632
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: and get you in a look. And once they get

633
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: you in a look, they're gonna crank the tempo and

634
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: they're going to isolate the guy that's that's at a

635
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: position and go at him. Well, when you've got players

636
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: of versatility, they have that ability to be able to

637
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: cover it tight end. But yet somebody that can also

638
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: hold up at the point of attack if you want

639
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: to try and run it down their throats. Uh, somebody

640
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: can cover in the slot. Somebody they can drop back

641
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: and play the deep path. It allows you to disguise

642
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: your looks defensively, allows you to confuse quarterbacks, and allows

643
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: you to match up with the athletes you're gonna see.

644
00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: So those guys have never been more valuable. And you know,

645
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: one of the conversations that I've had over the last

646
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: few years, and really even more so this year, is

647
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: with the linebackers. It doesn't matter if if you are

648
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: an unbelievably instinctive player and you're tough and your physical

649
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: If you cannot run, they can't hide you anymore. You're

650
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: gonna get exposed. So at that position, you just you

651
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: have to lean towards athleticism. You sacrifice some size. Uh.

652
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: You know for a guy like Patrick Queen, because he

653
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: can run and cover backs and tight ends all day long,

654
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: you can blitz him. He can make plays sideline to sideline. Uh.

655
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: Same with Kenneth Murray. I mean that's why those guys are,

656
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: you know, at a premium when you get those linebackers

657
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: that can really run and make plays. Thank you. We'll

658
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: take our next question from Jim Wyatt with Tennessee Titans

659
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: dot Com. Daniel, appreciate your tom. I've seen a lot

660
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: of people take defensive lamen tackles quarterbacks. Uh. In the

661
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: first round for the Titans, you took a receiver. What

662
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: do you like about Brandan? I you there, and if

663
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: they do go receiver, he's maybe around sixty one. That

664
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: could fill another need. Well. I love Brandon I U.

665
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: He's my fifth receiver, and uh, he's just he is

666
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: so sudden and so quick, you know, I know the

667
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: forty times says uh, you know four or five. Oh,

668
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: he plays a lot faster than that, UM, and he's

669
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: got He's one of the things thats unique about him,

670
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: he's got rare length. He is really long. UM. So

671
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: you get somebody that can can make plays in traffic

672
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: with his toughness. He's phenomenal after the catch. He can

673
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: he can help you in the return game as well.

674
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: He's really good in that department. So just getting the

675
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: ball in his hands and let him go, let him

676
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: make plays. But if you wanted a receiver there in

677
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: the in the second round, I think that's what you said, right,

678
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: was it the pick sixty one? Yeah, I'm thinking maybe

679
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: if you do go receiver in the first round, who

680
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: maybe is there at sixty one at that would fill

681
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: another need, maybe a defensive line tackle or cleeper. You

682
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: look at some of those other positions that they're looking

683
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: at there with the tackle and corner at pick six one. UM,

684
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: let me give you a couple of guys here, I

685
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: pick sixty one. I think you know that's about the

686
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: range for guys like Neville Gallimore. UM, it's about the

687
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: range for Elliott from from Missouri, UM Lynch from Baylor.

688
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: That's kind of that group you'll be looking at there.

689
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: At the defensive tackle position at the corner spot. Um

690
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: I really like Robinson, Reggie Robinson from Tulsa. I think

691
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: he's a great player. Um iig Bonogny from Auburn is

692
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: a tough one because he's got the athletic ability and

693
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: the toughness that you love. He just really struggled to

694
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: play the football and hasn't made many plays. So he's

695
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: got first round athleticism and he's got you know, late

696
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: round production. So trying to sort him out as a

697
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,479
Speaker 1: tricky one, but I think he kind of factors in

698
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: right around that range as a player. Deamon our Nett

699
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: from Ohio State, he's my he's my fifty ninth player,

700
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: so he would be somebody that could could be in

701
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: the mixer at that point in time. Real physical, really tough,

702
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: can find and play the ball. Um short area quickness

703
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: is outstanding. He's aggressive against the run. Uh he's just

704
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: a little bit tight, a little bit rigid, but and

705
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: didn't run as fast, ran four or five six. So

706
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: I think he's another one that's it's right about that

707
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: time for for him in the draft as well. Thank

708
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: you will take our next question from Kayat with any sing.

709
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: Daniel last year, joe On Williams was kind of a

710
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: late riser. It seemed like in this process, is there

711
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: a player like that you see right now who might be,

712
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: you know, just starting to get on on the radar

713
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: as a first or second round prospect sort of late

714
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: in the process. Yeah, there's there's several And I look

715
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: at some of these, uh, some of these linebackers that

716
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: have caught a lot of buzz here coming down the stretch.

717
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: Willie Gay is fascinating out of Mississippi States. He gave

718
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: us a five star recruit. Um. Obviously you could see

719
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: that the combine just how athletic and how explosive he is.

720
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: He ran in the mid four fours. He did not

721
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 1: did not start a game this year at Mississippi State,

722
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 1: got in some trouble, got to spended a little bit

723
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: for some academics. But when teams met with him, they

724
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: were very comfortable with him. He presented himself very well. Um,

725
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: and he's somebody that I think it could find his

726
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: way into the second round. It wouldn't shock me if

727
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: he got all the way up in the second round

728
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: in this draft. But that's the one that's kind of

729
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: caught some fire late in the process. I really like

730
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: Jordan Brooks from Texas Tech, and uh, he's my fifty

731
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: first player. But if somebody decided to take him, you know,

732
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 1: late in the first round or at the very beginning

733
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 1: of the second round, I wouldn't I wouldn't hate that pick.

734
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: He's just a really good football player who's got tremendous range.

735
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: So those guys are guys that have kind of popped

736
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: up late. Amazing. If I could just thrown a quick

737
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: fall up, there is there a player that stands out

738
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: to you at number twenty three four the Patriots in

739
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: this draft. For me, it's a j F and s

740
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: A um. You know. I went back and and I

741
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: posted some of it, but I went back and looked

742
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: at a lot of the notes that I had been

743
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: given when I was with the Baltimore Ravens from one

744
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: of our scouts who had been with Coach Belichick. And

745
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: it was a presentation on what coach values at every position.

746
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: And when it talked about edge rushers, it talked about

747
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 1: his preference for size over speed out there and guys

748
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: that can hold the point of attack in the run

749
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: game and they can they can collapse the pocket. Their

750
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: power players and that to me, like if you're drawing

751
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: up a description of a j F and S, it

752
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: was literally what they were looking for. Now, that was

753
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,479
Speaker 1: for a long time ago, but those Patriot defenses seem

754
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: to all feature these this type of a player. Um,

755
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: and then you add into the fact that he played

756
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: for Kirk Ferrence and U Kirk Ferrence, having his relationship

757
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: with coach Belichick, all that seemed to me like this

758
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: guy was meant to be a New England Patriot. Just

759
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: makes too much sense. Thank you. We'll take our next

760
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 1: question from Bridge Simony with the ESPN dot Com. Yeah, thanks, DJ.

761
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: I have a Jet question, but not about a prospect.

762
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: Obviously you have a background with Joe Douglas, so I'm

763
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: wondering what type of characteristics do you think we'll see

764
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: from Joe douglas draft and how what are some of

765
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: the big challenges he'll face taking over this Jets roster. Well,

766
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: I mean the challenges will start there is that you

767
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of blue Ship players at the

768
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: important positions. Now, I do believe you have one at

769
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: the quarterback position in Sam Donald, but when you look

770
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: at the premier positions you talked about edge rusher, you know, corner,

771
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: left tackle. Um, you know, there was not there weren't

772
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 1: a lot of blue ship players in those position rooms

773
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: when he got there. Now in free agency, he did

774
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 1: a good job of just kind of spreading the resources

775
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: around just to make sure that they can, you know,

776
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: they can line up and play. And uh, you know,

777
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: they've got some upgrades there along that offensive line, and

778
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: the defense is in in pretty good shape overall. So

779
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: now they've got to find ways to score points. And

780
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 1: they just couldn't do it last year. When you're thirty

781
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: second and scoring and thirty feet on third down, I

782
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: don't know how they won seven games. I mean, you

783
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 1: give the defense all the credit in the world. So

784
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: they've got to go about getting that fixed. And that

785
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 1: starts with getting much better up front, and it's then

786
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: it gets to, uh, you know, you've got to give

787
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: Sam Donaldson weapons and that's gonna be I would imagine

788
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: what's gonna be high on the priority list with this draft.

789
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: And you know Joe is Joe is always valued toughness. Um,

790
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 1: he's always valued you know, really really highly competitive players. Um.

791
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: So you know that's why it will be fascinating to see,

792
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 1: you know what they end up doing in this draft.

793
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: They have an opportunity at eleven, you know, in front

794
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: of them, where do you want to finish the run

795
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: on tackles or do you want to begin the run

796
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 1: on wide receivers or do you want to trade down?

797
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: So that's kind of the decision that they'll have to

798
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: make their UM. So we'll see, we'll see how they

799
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 1: go about doing that. I am excited though, to see

800
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: not just what they do at eleven, UM, but when

801
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: you look at having two third round picks, that's where

802
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited. I think they can get a starter

803
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 1: on the interior of the offensive line with one of those,

804
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: and I think they can get a starter at wide

805
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: receiver with the other pick. UM. So Joe Joe is

806
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: gonna do very well. And then at a rounds this draft,

807
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: that's where the sweet spot is. And I would not

808
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: be shocked if either at eleven or forty eight he

809
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: traded down to get even more picks in that third

810
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: fourth rounte range, because, um, they can really upgrade their

811
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: roster in this draft at that point in time. Thank you.

812
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 1: We'll take our next question from William McFadden with Atlanta

813
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 1: Falcons Dot com reports came out yesterday that the Falcons

814
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: could be a team looking to trade up in the

815
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 1: first round if they do, you know, make a move

816
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: up from sixteen. Who are some players that you think

817
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: that they could be, you know, looking to target? Well,

818
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: I feel like they've been trying to find an edge

819
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: rusher forever, So why what the heck would just go

820
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: up and just trade for chrise Young? How had you

821
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: gotta go? Uh? You know that would be that would

822
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: be fun. Uh But no, I mean I think you're

823
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: looking for impact, impact defensive players. And you know, we

824
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: kicked this around the other day on path to the

825
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: draft about you know, to me, the four players that

826
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: made sense, were you trade up for a Kuda to

827
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: give you a premier corner? You trade up you know Henderson,

828
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have to go up as are, but you

829
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: probably have to go up a little bit to get

830
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: him for those top two corners. Or you know, if

831
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: Derek Brown or kin Law started to drop a little bit,

832
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: you can go up and range and get them. And

833
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: then the more I thought about it, I thought, well,

834
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: wait a second. You know sometimes we see these off

835
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: the ball linebackers, uh drift a little bit further than

836
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: they should in terms of where they were rated. And

837
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons is the third best player in the draft. Um,

838
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: but if he were to start getting down and to

839
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: range where you had the ammunition in your Atlanta you

840
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: wanted to go up and get him, Man, that'd be

841
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: fun to plug him into that defense and that scheme

842
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: and uh and let him run around when you're in

843
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: a division like they are, and you've got to see

844
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 1: Kimera and you've got to see um Christian McCaffrey. Having

845
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: a guy like Isaiah Simmons can kind of help erase

846
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: some of that. So, um, you know that would be

847
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: that would be fun to see him get plugged in

848
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: there and playing a Dean gel. There'll be a lot

849
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: of speed out there. Um, but you know, let's go

850
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: for it. They'll forget all that. Let's just go all

851
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: the way and get the chase. Young. Thank you. Let's

852
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: take our next question from Clarence who but Fort Worth

853
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: Star Telegram. I think you had a cowboy taking safe

854
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: and uh in your mud draft. But if it's Safety

855
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: and Henderson on the board, who do you see them taking?

856
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: And also what about those safs you have not in

857
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: the first round and they stick a round options. Why

858
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: have they all dropped out of the first round? Well,

859
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: I think when you look at McKinney, is still the

860
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: best safety. UM did not run as well as you

861
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: would have hoped, and they play him a lot more

862
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: down closer to the line of scrimmage. I have a

863
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: big grade on him. I like him, but I think

864
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: there's a chance he could drift a little bit. And

865
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: I think teams are saying they kind of like this

866
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: this next wave of safeties that would be there. So

867
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: if you passed on one in the first round, you

868
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: come back and you know, I think there's a thought

869
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: that you know, Delpa, Jeremy Chan, Antoine Winfield, you know,

870
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: Kyle Dugger, Ashton Davis, like there's some depth there. Um.

871
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: So I think that could cause that that run to

872
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: happen more so in the second round when it comes

873
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: to the decision on the corner versus the edge rusher. UM,

874
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: that would be that would be a fascinating one. UM,

875
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 1: depending on what they're able to get out of Alton Smith.

876
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: If they think they can get something out of him,

877
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 1: maybe that would push him more to the corner. Um

878
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: that would be if that would be a fascinating decision

879
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: for them to make. In terms of how I have

880
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: him rated, I have C. J. Henderson is my twenty

881
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 1: second player, and I have Chased On as my twenty player.

882
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: So if I had needed both those positions, if you're

883
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: asking what I would do, I would take C. J.

884
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: Henderson and and go from there. But I think either

885
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: one of those players would be would be plug and

886
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: play in a great fit. Can I think it one

887
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: more question? Uh? On the TC you guys, TC, you guys. Um,

888
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 1: there they're three maybe four. I could go in the

889
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: first two rounds, certainly three days to have a chance

890
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 1: to go in the first round and just talk about

891
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: Gregor Blakelock uh and uh, Jeff Glny and chances of

892
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: going high. Blacklock is. He's fun man. He's one of

893
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: my favorite players to watch. He ended up being my

894
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: nineteenth player. Very dynamic. Um. He just jolts people when

895
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,479
Speaker 1: he hits him with his hands. I think if if

896
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: you know, he never had an injury before, we'd be

897
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: talking about him, he'd have been on the on the

898
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 1: scene more on the college football world. We've been talking

899
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: about him a lot more. But again, I think he's

900
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: a top twenty player. He's a number three defensive tackle

901
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: for me. Um, I think he's got a chance to

902
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 1: be a really, really good pro. Um Jeff Gladney and

903
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: moved him up a little bit. He's my forty second player.

904
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: He's my sixth corner. Reminds me of Denzel Award. Um.

905
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: He's just quick and feisty. He's very fluid. Um. You know,

906
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: he'll he'll throw his face in there as a tackler.

907
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 1: He's tough. You know. If he was a little bit taller,

908
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: I think he'd be a slam dunk first rounder. And

909
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: I still think there's a chance he is the first rounder.

910
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: He's such a good player. Jalen Reagor, he was challenging

911
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: to study because the quarterback play was not very good,

912
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: and then he had some drops this year. The production

913
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: is not where you'd want it. But man, you can

914
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 1: see him move and he's explosive. Um. He's a fluid athlete.

915
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: He makes he'll go up and and makes some big

916
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: time catches, contested catches, play above the rim. But then

917
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 1: he just has a ton of drops, so you've got

918
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: to sort the drops. He's gifted as a returner, but

919
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: then he's got a bunch of muff punts. So he's

920
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: kind of a glass half full, glass half empty. When

921
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: you talk to people around the league, there's some people

922
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:16,959
Speaker 1: that really like him and some people that are down

923
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: on him. I'm kind of somewhere in the middle. He's

924
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: my he's my fifty six player, but he's my tenth receiver,

925
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: and I know some teams that think he's the fifth receiver.

926
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 1: So um, it wouldn't be stunning to see him find

927
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: his way into the back of one or or very

928
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,439
Speaker 1: early and round number two. So they have a good

929
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: group there at TCU and Lucas nyang Is is very

930
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: talented tackle um who people are a little bit concerned

931
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: with medically, so you gotta gotta answer the medical question there.

932
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: But he's he's a talented player. Thank you. We'll take

933
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: our next question from Chris Russell with Sports Illustrated. How

934
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: much would it take for you if you were the

935
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: Redskins at two, uh to move down to stay my

936
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: at me at five? Would it require all three of

937
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: those first round picks or would you be willing to do, say,

938
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: to first and maybe a combination of seconds, being that

939
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: the Redskins don't have a second currently. Yeah, I mean,

940
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: I can you want to do the mapter, we can

941
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: do it real quick. So the second pick is hundred points, right,

942
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: So then the fifth pick is seventeen hundred points, um,

943
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: so you've got to come up with nine hundred points

944
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: out of that thing. So you're gonna get um, let's

945
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 1: see pick, let's go pick eighteen. Pick eighteen is nine

946
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: hundred points. So you know, if you're just going off

947
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: the chart, that would be the chart. Yeah, I mean

948
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: that's what if I'm if I'm the Redskins and uh,

949
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 1: and they wanted to give me five and eighteen. Um,

950
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: that's what it says it should be. So if you

951
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: want to make them play, if you want to make

952
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 1: them pay a premium because you're you're sitting on such

953
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: a big time player, the best player in the draft

954
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: in Chase Young, I would guess you could say give

955
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: me five and eighteen and uh, you know, maybe you

956
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: try and squeeze the Dolphins for you know, for one

957
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: of their two's, um thirty nine or fifty six. But man,

958
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, that would be an expensive, expensive move for them.

959
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 1: Thank you. We'll take our next question from Mitchell Gifts

960
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: with the E g S Radio. Seems like there's a

961
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: lot of national media love for two. I even saw

962
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: Lewis Riddick talk yesterday about how there was a talent

963
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: gap between him and Herbert, which I don't agree with

964
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 1: it anyway, he said that, So when you get your

965
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: thoughts on that and where you think those two guys

966
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: are gonna be picked. And then secondly, we've heard a

967
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: couple of rumors about the Saints maybe trying to move

968
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: up or maybe not to get a quarterback. Even Kamara's

969
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: name has been been mentioned because this is the last

970
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 1: year of his rookie contract, possibly trading him. He's gonna

971
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: become very expensive next year. So I want to get

972
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 1: your thoughts on those questions. Sure. First of all, with

973
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: with Kamara, I mean for Drew Brees to come back, Um,

974
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: you know when there was a lot of thoughts that

975
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: he was going to hang it up for to have

976
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: him come back and not and not have Alvin Kamara

977
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: would not would not make a lot of sense to me.

978
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: This seems like it's all in, let's try and win

979
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: one this year, and that's you know, That's why I

980
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: struggle with you know, even at twenty four, if Jordan's

981
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 1: love who I would love to see Sean Payton get

982
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: a chance to develop and work with with all of

983
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: his talent. Um, you know, would you take him there

984
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: or would you try and get somebody that can help

985
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: you try and make a run at the super Bowl

986
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 1: this year? That would be a fascinating dilemma for them. Uh. There,

987
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: what was the other? What was the other part of

988
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: your question? There? The first and Herbert? Yeah, so with too,

989
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: sorry about that. With two and Herbert, I think there

990
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: is a gap between them. Um. I think to Ah

991
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: is a more instinctive natural player. He's got better instincts. Um,

992
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: he's just got a better feel. I think he's got

993
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 1: better touch and accuracy. He can layer the ball a

994
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: little bit better. I think he's more urgent and sudden

995
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: in terms of working through progressions. Um. I think obviously

996
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: Herbert is bigger and stronger. Herbert, in my opinion, is

997
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: actually a better athlete. I don't think people you know

998
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: understand that as much. But he's a he's a really

999
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 1: good athlete. Um and uh, and he's obviously durable so

1000
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: or it has been durable recently. So you've got that

1001
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: advantage going for you if you're Herbert. But I think

1002
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: to Ah Um, you know, when when everything's dialed up

1003
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: the way it's supposed to be dialed up, I think

1004
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: they're comparable. I just think when when something doesn't go

1005
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: as expected, I think Too has got a little bit

1006
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: more of a playmaker gene than than Herbert does. But

1007
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: you know, look, I think it's it's gonna come down

1008
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: to get in the right situation and the right surrounding

1009
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: for both those kids. Do you take into consideration who

1010
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: they play against and who they play with, because Too,

1011
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 1: as you know, most of the time in Alabama, plays

1012
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: with such a stacked advantage over another Too, which Oregon

1013
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: may not have as much. So I just wonder if

1014
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: you take that into consideration. Absolutely, Um, you know it

1015
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: works both ways, because you know, I think the SEC,

1016
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: the defenses you're gonna see in the SEC in a weekend,

1017
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: week out basis, are better than what you're gonna see

1018
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: in the PACT. Well, Herbert's had some good crossover games.

1019
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: Obviously played Auburn this year, Um, but I didn't think

1020
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,959
Speaker 1: that in those in those bigger stage moments, I thought

1021
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 1: Herbert was solid, but I never thought he dominated those

1022
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: football games against better teams. Now it is tricky to

1023
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: evaluate both Joe Burrow and t A because of the

1024
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: amount of talent that they have around them. So the

1025
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: way I did it is I went back and I

1026
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: watched them against the best teams they played against. And

1027
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: then I went and fortunately with the video that we

1028
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: have now, I'm able to sort it, and I watched

1029
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: all their snaps under pressure. And when you do that,

1030
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: there's a decided difference between Joe Burrow and everybody else

1031
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: in the whole draft. That's uh. You know, he was

1032
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 1: phenomenal when he was under pressure, and he was phenomenal

1033
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: when they're playing against the teams was similar talent um

1034
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 1: to it was good um, and I think there was

1035
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: still another little drop below him where Herbert was. So

1036
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: that to me is how I try and sort through

1037
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: that stuff. That's the cool thing about technology and the

1038
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: video that we have now is I get to use

1039
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: what the teams use, so you can sort those throws

1040
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: and find out when they've when they've got pressure on them,

1041
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: and uh, and just watch those in a cut up.

1042
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: It's very helpful. We'll go ahead and take our next

1043
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: question from Ton Krassovitch with San Diego Union Tribune. Daniel

1044
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 1: looking at the Chargers, I think they've been pretty good

1045
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: at quarterback since two thousand, Drew Brees and Philip. Of

1046
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: the guys that might be there at six, let's discount

1047
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. So do you see anyone as attractive as

1048
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: those guys when they came out? I don't know if

1049
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: you were young enough or old enough to even be

1050
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: drafting when John Butler took Drew Brees. Yeah, I was

1051
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: in UH. I was in my apartment in UH, in

1052
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: alcoholone right at A right. I think it was just

1053
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: out of college when Drew Brees got picked, and I

1054
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: remember we were moving furniture. I think we're moving into

1055
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 1: the departments. I was moving furniture that day and the

1056
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: first thing I did was set up my TV to see, uh,

1057
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 1: who the Chargers are gonna take. So I was not

1058
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 1: I was not working with a team at that point

1059
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: in time, but I was. My first year in scouting

1060
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: was the Philip Rivers draft, so I remember that one.

1061
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: And obviously they've had tremendous stability there. Um in terms

1062
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: of the you know, how do these these guys stack

1063
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: up with with Philip? Um? I would say with with

1064
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: twa you know, not not nearly as big, but I

1065
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: would say in terms of grade, I would say there's

1066
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: some similarity there, um in terms of playing the game

1067
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: with you know, really really good eyes, very accurate UM,

1068
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: good decision makers, poise um touch throwers. I think Philip

1069
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: coming out had a little bit stronger arm um and

1070
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: the two of moves around a little bit better. But

1071
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a terribly far fetched comparison there

1072
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: in terms of just talent. And then with you know,

1073
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: with Herbert, I would just say Philip was just a

1074
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: more natural even though it's an unnatural motion, um, he

1075
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: was naturally gifted with layering the ball and throwing with

1076
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: touch um anticipation. I think Philip was a little bit

1077
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: of a little bit of head there. And then Jordan's Love,

1078
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: you know, Jordan's Love has more physical UH tools than

1079
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: Philip does, just with the ability to make so many

1080
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: incredible UH throws with with extreme velocity from all different

1081
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 1: platforms and falling away and arm angles um, but nowhere

1082
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: near as consistent or as accurate as Philip. So that's

1083
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: who I can compare him to with Philip, and I

1084
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: I say that having seen so much of Philip and

1085
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: and UH over the years, but that year to be totally.

1086
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: Uh honest, I was on the I was on the

1087
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: staff there in Baltimore, but I was not assigned to

1088
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: watch him, So I just sat in the room and

1089
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 1: listened to the reports that year. And my follow up

1090
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: on since you mentioned love is if you are a GM,

1091
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: how concerning would the marijuana violation be to you? Well,

1092
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't. I don't think it's the marijuana

1093
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: violation itself. I think it's the fact that it was

1094
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: the week of the Bowl of the Bowl game, which

1095
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: it's just you know, it was a poor is a

1096
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: poor decision all the way around. The timing of it

1097
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: was not good. So it definitely matters. You've got to

1098
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: have that discussion with him. But you also have to

1099
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: factor in where we are, um, you know, as a

1100
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: country and where we are as a league in terms

1101
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: of how you're dealing with this now with a new

1102
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: collective bargaining agreement, so it's kind of a it's a

1103
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,919
Speaker 1: new it's a it's a whole new era and how

1104
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: you deal with things like this, And if it had

1105
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: happened in the middle of the summer, um, I don't

1106
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: think it would be any big deal at all. I

1107
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: think it was just a little a little concerning of

1108
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: when it happened with a big game on the horizon there,

1109
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: So I don't think at the end of the day,

1110
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna move him one spot either way. I don't

1111
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: think he'll have much of an impact, but it's a

1112
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: it's a topic that would get brought up with him

1113
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: in the interviews. Thank you. Our next question for Keana

1114
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: Martin with San Francisco forty Niners. Thanks j Um in

1115
00:53:55,600 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: your latest moment at thirteen availability aside, if you could

1116
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: pin any of your top receivers for the forty Niners,

1117
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: who do you see as the best fit in regards

1118
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: to a Kyle Shanahan stout offense. Would it still be

1119
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 1: rugged or is there another name would be an ideal

1120
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: or dreamy fit? Well, for me, he's the He's the

1121
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: dreamy fit. I want to see it, um, just as

1122
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: a football fan. I want to see what Kyle Shanahan

1123
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: could do with with rugs, with with his speed, with

1124
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: his with his toughness, with the ball in his hands.

1125
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 1: I just envision, you know, the stretch of bootleg um

1126
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,240
Speaker 1: that they like to run there and having rugs running

1127
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: those deep over routes and watching you know, people try

1128
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: and run with that dude, no chance. Um, And I

1129
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: think Kyle Shanahan got a front row seat to see

1130
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: what the speed look like in the Super Bowl with

1131
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill on the biggest play of the season that

1132
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: cost them a Super Bowl ring and that speed was

1133
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: was the difference. So, um, I think they'll know what

1134
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: that value is and I would love to see what

1135
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: he could do with him creatively. Um Man, it would

1136
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: be would be a lot of fun. But don't get

1137
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: me wrong, those other other top three receivers, Um, I

1138
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: would throw justin Jefferson even in there. Although third team

1139
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 1: might be a little bit early, but any of those,

1140
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: any of the top four receivers and a Kyle Shanahan

1141
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 1: offense are going to be extremely productive. They're great players.

1142
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: Thank you. We'll take our next question from Jonas Shaffer

1143
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 1: with the Baltimore Sun. Just with analytics community kind of

1144
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: ascendant in the NFL, uh DC that maybe coinciding with

1145
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: the devaluing of running backs and some you know, on

1146
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: some team shraft boards over the that couple of years. Now,

1147
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: I think that's real. I think, um, you know, I

1148
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: think that's been a topic of conversation for a while now.

1149
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: But I think as most teams you know have a

1150
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 1: robust analytics department now there you know, they are showing

1151
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: them the value of the positions and showing them where

1152
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: you can get quality starters you can win with um

1153
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: and not using valuable resources at certain positions. And the

1154
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 1: unfortunately for running back that's kind of UM, that's kind

1155
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: of been at the top of that list. So that

1156
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,240
Speaker 1: isn't that is has that has an impact, no doubt.

1157
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how this draft goes and how

1158
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: it's looked back on, um, you know, five years from now,

1159
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 1: because there's gonna be less uh analytic impact on this

1160
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: draft than anyone we've seen over the last handful of

1161
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 1: years because we don't have all the numbers. A lot

1162
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: of these kids, I think I had eleven of my

1163
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 1: top fifty players did not run at the combine. So

1164
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: you're not gonna have some of those data points. You're

1165
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: not gonna have the pro day data points. UM. You

1166
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: know a lot of the data that had been you know,

1167
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: pulled together to make you know, some suggestions and decisions.

1168
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: For a lot of teams, they don't they don't have

1169
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,959
Speaker 1: all that data. It's more of a tape draft. So

1170
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: when you look back on this five years from now,

1171
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: well we find out that it was beneficial, Um that

1172
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: they just went off the tape, or are they gonna

1173
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: look back and say, man, you can see the holes

1174
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: in the data and that's why we had such a

1175
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: you know, a horrible hit rate in this draft. I

1176
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: think it's going to be fascinating to look back on

1177
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 1: in five years. Thank you. We'll take our next question

1178
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: from Jeff Route with Cardwire. Thanks d j Hey, But

1179
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, obviously you've talked about the Jackson til Jaguars

1180
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 1: at and I'm moving down. What are the odds that

1181
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: that arizonasm play for moving down? And and what are

1182
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: you get a sense for for what they're doing? And

1183
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: then secondly, the left tackle right tackle potential of players,

1184
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: how is that going to affect the top of the

1185
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:26,919
Speaker 1: board with those guys? Yeah, I mean the good news

1186
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: is is you know when we look at the top tackles,

1187
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: for me, backed in is my top tackle. And he played,

1188
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: uh the year before coach Stadterfield got there. They flop

1189
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: sides in games, so it's a strong side tackle. So

1190
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: he was he was moving the whole time. Um, So

1191
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: he played right played left. Worth has played right, he's

1192
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: played left. Um, I think the other two you're looking

1193
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: at more left tackles. So I'm always a little bit

1194
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: hesitant to you know, to say, Okay, this guy's never

1195
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: played left tackle, No big deal, he can do it. Um.

1196
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: I think there is an adjustment there with that. When

1197
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: you look at uh you know, last year is a

1198
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: great example Andre Dillard. It's been a left tackle his

1199
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: whole life. He took some snaps right tackle, wasn't very comfortable,

1200
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: much better player on the left side. That's where he is.

1201
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: But you know, when I look at Jedrick Wills, even

1202
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: though he's a right tackle, I think he's got all

1203
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: the ability in the world to play on the other side.

1204
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: There might be some adjustment there allowed for some time, um,

1205
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: but I think he could play on the left side

1206
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: no problem. Now. The Cardinals in their particular situation with

1207
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: d J. Humphries at left, um, you know, I think

1208
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: he'd be in a pretty good spot because Wills is

1209
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: a right tackle, plug him in right away. Worse has

1210
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: been a right tackle for the most part, and uh

1211
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: In Beckton has a lot of experience there. So Andrew

1212
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: Thomas would be the one that that would be a

1213
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: little bit would have the most adjustment between all those

1214
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: guys if you were to pick him there. What the

1215
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: Cardinals are going to do though, Um, I've said this

1216
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: a bunch before. I just I don't think they've been

1217
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: able to run the offense the way they want to

1218
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: with coach Kingsbury because they haven't been able to for

1219
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: tech and UH and getting a right tackle to come

1220
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: in their opposite of d J. Humphreys. UM. I think

1221
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: that would that would allow them to get more guys

1222
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: out into the route. And they've all of a sudden

1223
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: now they've got a stack receiver room all to get

1224
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: more of those guys on the field and get them

1225
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: out in the route. So that makes a lot of

1226
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: sense to me. But if if Isaiah Simmons for some

1227
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: reason falls, all bets are off, I don't know that

1228
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: they would pass on him if somehow he was there,

1229
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: If the Panthers passed on him at seven, UM, I'm

1230
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: beginning to think that that would that slide would end

1231
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: with the Cardinals. Thank you. We'll take our next question

1232
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 1: from James Johnson with Jaguarre Squire USA Today Believe podcast Network.

1233
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: I really wanted to ask the question on d. Jacksonville.

1234
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: Jack was who you have spoke on a little bit,

1235
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: because C. J. Henderson is the guy is building a

1236
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: lot of buzz right now, and he's a guy that

1237
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: if you look at the Jacks track record, they love

1238
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: drafting Florida guys Jante Fowler, you got us say, even

1239
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: Brian Jawan Taylor. Do you think that it's the possibility

1240
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: that his buzz uh could cause him to be drafted

1241
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: at that spot, at the number nine overall spot. Well,

1242
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: I think there's a I think it's a real possibility.

1243
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: He ended up as my twenty one player. But he's

1244
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: my second corner and you're talking about a premier position

1245
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: that everybody's trying to fill at the corner position. So

1246
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: that's not that's not a terrible reach. Um. If he

1247
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: were to be the ninth pick, and he's got all

1248
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: the athletic ability in the world, he tested unbelievably well.

1249
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:32,439
Speaker 1: He's fluid and smooth. Um My issues with him? Why

1250
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: I see the difference between him and Akuta. He's a

1251
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: better he's a better athlete than a Kuda, But Kuda

1252
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: is a better football player. Accuda is tougher, occluded, tackles better. Uh,

1253
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: he finds and plays the football a little bit better. So, uh,

1254
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: you know, Henderson has has got all the upside in

1255
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: the world. I think you'd say, even more upside uh

1256
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: than a Kuda. But man, he's got to clean up

1257
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: his tackling and he's got to get a little bit

1258
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: more consistent playing the ball down the field. But to

1259
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 1: answer your question at nine, UM, you know that would

1260
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: not you know, that would not totally surprise me. But

1261
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 1: I do as we get closer, I do expect Jacksonville

1262
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 1: to um to try and find a way to get

1263
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: out of there. I don't know necessarily they're going to

1264
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: pick at nine. I wouldn't be surprised to see them

1265
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: move back and move around the board a little bit

1266
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: as they continue to add, you know, more picks, not

1267
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 1: only for this year, but even maybe attempting to add

1268
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: some picks for next year. Thank you. We'll take our

1269
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: next question from Tyler Palmitteer with the Norman transcript. Jalen

1270
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: Hurt said on pro Day that no team had talked

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Speaker 1: him about playing something other than quarterback, but there seems

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Speaker 1: to be the school of thought that that Jalen could

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Speaker 1: be sort of a Swiss Army Night type player. How

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Speaker 1: do you see that unfolding? You see him being somebody

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Speaker 1: that does a lot of different things, or see you know,

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Speaker 1: could he could he go in and play quarterback, starting

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Speaker 1: quarterback for for an NFL team. Well, I think he's

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Speaker 1: got the ability to be a starting NFL quarterback. And

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Speaker 1: that's why he's my you know, he's my fifth quarterback

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Speaker 1: uh in the draft and he's ended up being my

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Speaker 1: fifties player when it was all said and done, So

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Speaker 1: I have him as a second round player. Um. My

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Speaker 1: thing with him is is if you want to get

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Speaker 1: him on the field and he's not gonna be your starter,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying, hey, we want you to play receiver.

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Speaker 1: We've seen with with Taysom Hill some of the things

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Speaker 1: he's been able to do with just coming in as

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. So to come in as the quarterback and

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Speaker 1: just be able to to use him in different ways

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Speaker 1: to actually play the position, not ask him to come

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Speaker 1: out there and and uh, you know, line up in

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Speaker 1: the slot or play running back. I'm saying that we'll

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Speaker 1: get packages where he comes in place quarterback. We can

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Speaker 1: we can throw the ball, we can do some zone read,

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Speaker 1: we can do a lot of different things. With him

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Speaker 1: in a package while he's developing and continuing to improve

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Speaker 1: as a pastor just from an anticipation standpoint, that really

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Speaker 1: is his his biggest deal. He's got to just improve

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Speaker 1: thrown with a little bit more anticipation. If he can

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Speaker 1: do that, now, I think team, some team is gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to uhum to put him in as a

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback in this league and he's got a chance

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Speaker 1: to be really successful. Um he's a playmaker, he's uh,

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Speaker 1: he's somebody that you know, just finds a way. I

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Speaker 1: always say, with what under pressure, you need a quarterback

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Speaker 1: that can identify it and attack it, or somebody that

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Speaker 1: can escape and create. And Jalen Hurts is going to

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Speaker 1: get to the point where he can identify an attack

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Speaker 1: it because he's very bright. But in the meantime, his

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Speaker 1: ability to escape and create is uh is gonna be

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Speaker 1: what gets him going. It's gonna give him an opportunity

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Speaker 1: because he can make plays and just real quick. On

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Speaker 1: Kenneth Murray, you kind of touched on this earlier, but um,

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Speaker 1: the reports on his his combine interviews and team interviews

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Speaker 1: have been really strong. How how often do those strong

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Speaker 1: pre draft interviews carry over you know, into NFL success

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Speaker 1: And then what role do do Murray's interviews specifically play

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Speaker 1: in keeping him kind of locked into potentially in the

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Speaker 1: first round. Yeah, I think it's you know, it's interesting.

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Speaker 1: I would say the closer you get to the middle

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Speaker 1: of the field, the more your leadership, intelligence, character uh

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Speaker 1: comes into play in the evaluation. So those are that's

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Speaker 1: the nerve center of your team. When you talk about

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Speaker 1: your quarterback, your center, your middle linebacker, your safeties, those

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Speaker 1: are the guys that are the communicators, those are normally

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Speaker 1: the leaders of your team. I think it's like that

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Speaker 1: in baseball as well. Um, you know, kind of building

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Speaker 1: your team up the middle. So that ability to dominate

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Speaker 1: interviews like he did, to fill the room with your presence, um,

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Speaker 1: to know your defense inside, now, all that stuff at

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Speaker 1: that position is huge, and it does. It does help

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Speaker 1: lift you up the board. And I do believe that

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Speaker 1: it translates. And I think that you'll see guys when

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Speaker 1: you miss on players a lot of times, it's it's

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Speaker 1: not the ability, it's it's it's the person. And I

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Speaker 1: think with Kenneth Murray, everybody that's talked with him trust

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Speaker 1: this kid with their life. I mean they just talked to.

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Speaker 1: They rave about him. They don't shut up about him. So, UM,

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01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 1: that's encouraging sign and I think that does vote well

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Speaker 1: for him at the next level. We'll move on to

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Speaker 1: our next question from Alex Byington with Montgomery Advertisers. How

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Speaker 1: much do you think because of uh, the quarantine, the

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Speaker 1: stay at home part of the virus, not being able

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Speaker 1: to go visit guys go to pro days, small schools,

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Speaker 1: that kind of thing. How much is that gonna help, Um,

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01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 1: bigger schools, kids that are maybe Day three guys. You know,

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Speaker 1: for Alabama, it's gonna really impact the non combined players.

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Speaker 1: If you're a non combined player, you're at Alabama, teams

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Speaker 1: have seen you and seen you in the fall, seen

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Speaker 1: you at All Star Games. They've had exposure to you.

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Speaker 1: They're more comfortable with you. Um, they're going to be

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01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 1: more comfortable turning in the card. Now. Some teams will

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01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 1: still even have a problem with those guys because they

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01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 1: might not have medical on them. Um, but the non

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01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 1: combined players where you didn't get a chance to get medical, Um,

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01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 1: where you didn't get a chance to visit with them. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna penalize them a little bit, unfortunately,

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01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be the benefit of the guys that were, um,

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01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 1: you know, big school players or guys that have been

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Speaker 1: to the combine. The medical is the is the biggest

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01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: hang up on these eyes, because the last thing you

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Speaker 1: want to do is assume you've got a healthy player

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Speaker 1: and you spend a fourth round pick on him and

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Speaker 1: he comes to your building and you find out, oh gosh,

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Speaker 1: this guy, you know, he's got arthritic kne and you know,

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Speaker 1: or some other type of an issue. So not having

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Speaker 1: a chance to get your own medical on those players,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be it's gonna be tough. I really enjoyed

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Speaker 1: taking the time to talk to media members around the

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Speaker 1: country and looking forward to the actual draft which is

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Speaker 1: right around the corner. My partner Bucky Brooks, along with

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Speaker 1: Rhet Lewis and Lands Zero Line will have you covered

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