WEBVTT - NFL PLAYOFF REACTION: Aaron Rodgers' LEGACY, Eagles EXTINGUISHED, Bears UNBELIEVABLE COMEBACK | Nick Wright 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:06.000 Welcome in what driving the great Episode four fourteen fresh 0:00:06.040 --> 0:00:14.200 off inarguably the greatest wild card weekend in NFL history, 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:20.759 And we were listen Sunday night football Chargers Patriots was 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:26.200 fine but not great, and last night's game was a 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:30.240 tough watch, but at least close until it was just 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:35.120 a catastrophe. But prior to that, we were on the 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:39.760 following run of football games. Game two, seventy two of 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:44.159 the NFL season Raven Steelers comes down to the final moments. 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:48.360 Game one of the College Football Playoff All Miss Miami, 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:51.920 one of the best college football games in a decade. 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:55.800 Game two of College FOOTBA Playoffs Indiana Trunc's Oregon. Game 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:59.240 one of the NFL Playoffs, Panthers ten and a half 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:02.280 point home down against the Rams, up at the two 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:07.759 minute warning, Rams comeback. Game two an instant, all time 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:13.040 legacy writing classic between the Packers and the Bears. Packers 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:15.840 up at the two minute warning and up eighteen in 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:20.760 that game, Bears come back and win. Game three, Jags Bills, 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:28.240 the There are four different lead changes in the fourth quarter, 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:32.560 including a final two minute comeback by the Bills. And 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:37.600 Game four of the NFL Playoffs, Eagles Niners another comeback 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:41.880 in the final two minutes, including our long national nightmare 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:45.840 of the Eagles title reign finally ending. Listen, not everybody 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:50.080 can defend a championship. Not everybody can win the Super 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:52.920 Bowl and then either win another one or go back 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:56.320 to the Super Bowl. The Chiefs did every single time 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:00.240 they won one. The Patriots did it a lot. That's 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.440 that's not how the Eagles roll, So be it. Uh 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:05.520 And if that sounds petty, and if I sound like 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:08.000 a hater, and if I sound a little unprofessional, the 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:10.120 answer to all those things are yes, yes, and yes. 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.200 I've had Eagles fans harassing me in the streets for 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:20.640 eleven months of how is that Super bowlf? Worst year 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:23.240 the Chiefs had in a decade, Eagles coming off defending 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:26.880 Super Bowl championship one same amount of playoff games, Fellows, 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:29.920 It just is what it is. 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:33.919 How are you doing, Demanse, I'm doing great, Pops doing 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:34.480 pretty good. 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:38.800 I'm doing you know what? I do. Think this, and 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:40.640 then we'll get in. I want to start with Monday 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:47.160 Night football and into this. I do think that of 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:51.959 the nine best teams in the NFL this year, eight 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:55.680 of them are left and the only one who maybe 0:02:55.800 --> 0:03:00.160 could argue was in the top eight that didn't make 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.360 it was Jacksonville. But Jacksonville over the course of the 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:08.480 entire season wasn't as like you could say, Jacksonville, you know, 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:12.000 was better than Houston this year. But it felt like 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:16.480 Houston had the really tough opening month and then was outstanding. 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:20.639 Jacksonville was kind of mediocre for two months and then 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:25.880 finished really hot. And so the right eight teams are 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:30.360 left and it sets up my favorite weekend of the 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:34.560 sports year, Divisional Round weekend, which should be four epic 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:36.760 games before we get to Rogers, before we get to 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:39.480 any of that. I already reminded you guys. This episode 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:42.800 of What's Right as all of Them is presented by 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:46.160 boost Mobile Straight to Voicemail, also brought to you by 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:50.920 boost Mobile. Big Dom helped out Oh oh, sideline snag. 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:54.560 I thought we were talking about the AJ Brown Nick 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:58.120 Sirianni Kurf fluffle, but no, Big Dom did catch a pass. 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:01.440 Big Dom also was wearing a headset. I don't really 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:05.880 know why. I'm not sure what big Dom you know, 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:07.800 what he's chiming in on, but he's wearing a headset. 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:10.960 NFL all Pro teams have been announced. Gives you a 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:15.640 pretty strong indicator that Matt Stafford's gonna win League MVP. Now, 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:19.840 I understand last year was the rare year year that 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:22.440 first team All Pro Quarterback was one guy and the 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:26.000 MVP was the other, with it being Lamar first Team 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:29.120 All Pro quarterback. But Josh League MVP. I don't think 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:31.560 that's gonna happen in back to back years. And Timmy 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:36.200 shallome wins Golden Globe for Best Actor in Marty Supreme. 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.240 I have not seen that yet. I want to see it. 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:42.719 I like Timmy Shallomey. I kind of like the way 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:45.200 he conducts himself. He also seems like a hell of 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.680 an actor. I really liked him in Dune. He has 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:53.240 an underrated small role in an all time movie, but 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:56.960 very hard, not hard to watch, but very emotional. And 0:04:57.080 --> 0:05:01.080 Interstellar Tomorrow before real quick Toman say if you' seen Interstellar. 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:03.559 I've not seen it, but I've heard the pictures are great. 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:05.960 I've seen that one scene where like the thing is 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:06.960 coming to say. 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:11.839 Wave yes, oh yeah, yeah, okay, cool, So here's the thing. 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:16.799 Interstellar's Christopher Nolan movie. Almost all Christopher Nolan movies except 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:19.440 for the Dark Knight movie. He likes to mess with time, 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:23.000 so it's a little confusing to wrap your mind around 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:27.880 exactly all of it. But here's the other thing. It 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:32.520 will have you found. Give me thirty seconds here and 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:34.680 then we'll get to the sports. I promise, have you 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:38.839 found just like commercials or since you've become a dad 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:42.360 in the last two months, that all of a sudden, 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:46.279 like there are certain things that are otherwise would be banal. 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:48.040 That makes you. 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:49.880 Emotional sit on a little bit longer. 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:55.640 Yeah, yeah, So Interstellar at it it's a you know, 0:05:56.360 --> 0:06:00.599 interstellar space travel movie, but it's also a five daughter 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:04.600 relationship movie. I think Interstellar would make you cry, like 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:07.840 like tears down your face cry, but it is an 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.719 awesome movie. Timmy Shallamy is in that all right. Reminder, 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:15.760 everybody like Grate subscribe review to the pod. It helps 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:18.359 us out a ton. We're still sitting. We seem to 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:21.080 have petered out on YouTube. We're just we didn't send 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.240 it two hundred and twenty eight thousand for a while. 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:26.240 Maybe you guys can give me the updated numbers. We'd 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:28.400 love to increase that. It also helps us a ton 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:32.880 if you subscribe on Spotify or iTunes. This was probably 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:34.760 the worst game of the weekend, but it was the 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.520 game last night. Oh, two hundred and twenty nine thousand. Now, 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:39.640 maybe get to two hundred and thirty thousand by next week. 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:43.160 It was the worst game of the weekend, but it's 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:45.840 the one that happened last night. It also might have 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:50.479 been the final game for a legend. So we'll start 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:51.840 with Texan Steelers. 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:56.480 Oh yeah, wildcard. Wildcard weekend ended with the Texans defeating Steelers. 0:06:56.720 --> 0:07:00.200 Steelers offense couldn't do anything, Texans offense couldn't do anything, 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.719 but the Texans won the game. When asked about his 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:05.480 future after the game, Aaron Rodgers said, I'm not going 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:08.880 to make any emotional decisions, but at forty two years old, 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:10.480 do you think that this is the end of the 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:11.680 road for him? 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:15.440 Well, I didn't think that at all going into the game, 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:18.200 because Rogers has been talking about how he thought he 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:21.600 would have one or two teams that would showed interest, 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:23.480 the fact that he had seemed to be playing some 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:25.160 of his best ball at the end of the year. 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:29.760 Steelers made the playoffs. All of that, but Buck and 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:35.679 Aikman talked like they knew the way Buck and Aikman 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:38.440 talked at the end of that game, and the way 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:42.920 ESPN produced the end of that game following Rogers and 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:46.960 all of that, it felt to me like they got 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:52.720 a heads up that he's planning on retiring now. If 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:56.640 this wasn't already the case thanks to Philip Rivers couple 0:07:56.720 --> 0:08:01.920 game cameo, the long tail of Philip Rivers coming back 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:05.920 after five years on the couch is going to be that. 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:09.840 Certainly next year and maybe for the next couple after. 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:17.560 If any good team suffers a November or December quarterback injury, 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:22.000 Rogers name will be floated and maybe he would come 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:26.080 back in a setting like that. You know something the 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:31.880 that if next year the Rams are nine to four 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:37.800 and Stafford goes down, could you know, could he come 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:41.640 back in that spot? I also think Aaron likes the 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:46.920 spotlight enough that I don't think we are going to 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:50.680 get a quick resolution on this. I think he's going 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:55.120 to take his time. But I do think that last 0:08:55.200 --> 0:09:02.960 night was the de facto ind for Aaron Rodgers, and 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:08.800 I do want to take some time here to talk 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:14.480 about how I will remember and think about Rogers, because 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:18.880 last night's game will have no real impact on how 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:21.440 I think about him down the road. I did think 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:32.440 that you saw some things last night that were part 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:39.600 and parcel to why a player as talented and generational 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:46.080 as Aaron Rodgers was not considered a great leader and 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:52.200 was not did not win at the level that his 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:54.520 talent would have made you think he was going to 0:09:54.600 --> 0:10:01.520 win at Because there was no less than half a 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:06.200 dozen times last night where a play was not made 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:12.960 by the Steelers, or a pass was missed, or the 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:17.800 Texans got pressure quick pressure, and Aaron made it very 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:21.520 clear to everyone on the field, in the stadium and 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:26.520 at home that that was someone else's fault. A lot 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:31.640 of pointing, a lot of gesticulation, a lot of making 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:34.800 it very clear to the whole world he's screwed up, 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:39.120 not me. Also, and I listen. I haven't watched the 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:43.960 All twenty two. I don't know if the Texans changed 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:46.720 something in their coverage, but I do know that I've 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:51.920 seen Aaron do this in big spots before. One of 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:55.600 his guys let him down with a drop and he 0:10:55.800 --> 0:11:00.679 simply stopped going to him. DK Metcalf, which was one 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:03.320 of the reasons I thought the Steelers could win this game, 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:08.000 was getting DK Metcalf back. DK Metcalf was a featured 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:10.640 part of the game play early. He then had a 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:14.120 huge drop and Rogers didn't throw him another pass for 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:23.760 two hours, and that is those things have always been 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:34.440 part of the Rogers experience, and his career is so 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:40.160 interesting because it would have seemed impossible. Demons, you weren't 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:42.960 You were only twelve years old and you were not 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:46.400 a big football fan as a little kid. But it 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:54.400 would not have seemed believable at all in twenty ten 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:57.360 that Rogers would never get back to another Super Bowl. 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:02.000 It is not different at all from how people thought 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:06.880 about Mahomes after his first Super Bowl one an MVP, 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:11.840 you know, instantly came on the scene and was awesome. Obviously, 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:15.000 Rogers had to sit, you know, for three years behind far, 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:19.520 but by his second year in the league was considered 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:23.240 maybe the best quarterback in football. And if in that 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:26.480 moment people had said Patrick's never making another Super Bowl, 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:29.880 it would have seemed impossible. That's what it felt like 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:34.040 for Aaron and I know the biggest Rogers defenders, and 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:38.080 once upon a time I was I don't know if 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:41.480 I was one of the biggest Rogers defenders, but I 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:44.920 was certainly more sympathetic to his cause than I've been 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:52.240 over the last decade. There are extenuating circumstances and some 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:59.600 really unfortunate playoff losses that had nothing to do with him. Okay, 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:05.520 so his first ever playoff game, demonse. They scored forty 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:11.960 five points and lost in overtime. Wow. The first ever 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:15.040 playoff game was a fifty one forty five lost to 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:17.880 the Arizona Cardinals. Now the loss was on a strip 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:22.400 sack returned for a touchdown. But that you score forty 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:26.000 five points, that should be enough. Second year in the 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:30.319 playoffs they win the Super Bowl. I'm now going to 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.760 jump to the playoff losses that you feel like he 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:39.760 has no culpability. On twenty twelve, they score thirty one 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:44.760 in the divisional round against San Francisco. The Niners and 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:50.679 Colin Kaepernick score forty five and just the Packers defense 0:13:50.760 --> 0:14:02.000 has no answer whatsoever. Twenty sixteen, the Falcons put up 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:07.600 forty four on the Packers defense in the NFC Championship game. 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.400 Feel like there's not much you can do there. The 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:17.120 very next year, twenty nineteen, the Niners and a rushing 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:20.440 attack that I think in that game they threw the ball. 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:22.720 Was that the game they threw the ball eight times. Yep, 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:27.960 the Niners threw the ball eight times and scored thirty 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:34.040 seven points to go to the Super Bowl. Those three 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:39.760 playoff losses, and those are all huge ones. It's fair 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:42.920 to say, what did you want from Aaron? What more 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:50.840 could he have done? I'll add one more. The year 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:56.880 they're defending their championship, they're fifteen to one. They're at 0:14:56.960 --> 0:15:01.680 home against the New York Giants. The Giants score thirty 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:05.480 seven points in freezing cold and send them home to 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:09.400 go on to win the Super Bowl. Those ones, right, 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:16.400 Those Packers' defenses were brutal, right, right. There are some 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:21.360 other ones though that that was not the story. And 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:27.880 people remember the Seattle NFC championship game, and what they 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:34.240 remember is the Packers were up sixteen to nothing and 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:38.320 nineteen to seven Demons with three minutes left in that 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:41.800 game of nineteen to seven, with three minutes left in 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:48.359 the game, they end up allowing a fake field goal touchdown, 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:57.920 they allow an on side kick. They then don't get tough, 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:02.720 they don't get the coin toss. In overtime, Russell Wilson 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:05.520 hits a thirty five yard pass. They go to the 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:08.720 Super Bowl, end up losing to Tom Brady and the Patriots. 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:12.440 What people don't remember so much about that game was 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:16.760 Rogers was awful. He had one touchdown, two picks, a 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:20.640 fifty six rating, and they couldn't score in the red zone. 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:28.560 The next year, they're playing a Cardinals team. This is 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:34.080 the game where Rogers hits back to back hail mary's 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:39.600 to force overtime. And what they and when I say 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:44.440 back to back hail mary's again, if people can't visualize 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:48.160 the situation. They are in a fourth and twenty Demons 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:53.880 on their own four yard line with fifty five seconds left, 0:16:55.520 --> 0:17:01.240 and Rogers hits a sixty yard pass. They then rush 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:05.360 to the line of scrimmage, couple deep shots, and then 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:12.280 five seconds left, on the forty one Rogers hits another 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:16.000 hail Mary. He threw one hundred and one yards of 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:19.959 passes on that possession to Jeff Janis to tie a 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:24.520 playoff game. And then on the very first possession of overtime, 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:28.080 the Cardinals go right down the field and score. The 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:31.399 first play of overtime, Larry Fitzgerald takes it seventy five yards. 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:36.080 They score the next play, But in that game, prior 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:43.440 to those two hail Marys, the Packers had fourteen points. 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:48.359 Rogers had a passer rating in the fifties again, had 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:52.520 one hundred and fifty yards, one touchdown, one pick, and then, 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:58.840 obviously people remember the very end NFC Championship game against 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:03.919 Tom Brady and Tampa is really bad. In the first half, 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.840 they dig a huge hole. They then are down eight 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:09.359 with two and a half minutes left, they can't punch 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:12.359 it in. Laflora kicks the weird field goal, and then 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:16.000 his final playoff game with the Steelers, the Niners did 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:20.920 not score an offensive touchdown, but Rogers once again had 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:23.480 a really weird game where all he would do was 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:27.000 target Devonte Adams and they end up losing the game 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:30.600 on a blocked punt touchdown thirteen to ten, with Rogers 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:39.000 kind of throwing away the final possession. So what we 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:44.480 with all that said? He's a four time MVP who 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:48.440 has the all time record for passer rating and as 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:53.480 far as the all time record for lowest interception percentage, 0:18:53.840 --> 0:19:00.480 and at times looked like the most physically gifted player 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:10.480 of the position's ever seen. But the combination of his 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:21.199 what I would call prickly leadership style, plus it's not 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:32.040 me it's you when things went wrong. Plus not playing 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:40.919 to an Aaron Rodgers level consistently in the playoffs. Is 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:45.960 why a guy that good is going to finish his 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:56.960 career eleven and ten in the playoffs or is it 0:19:57.000 --> 0:20:01.479 eleven and eleven now? Oh, eleven and eleven in the 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:06.879 playoffs because they lost yesterday and with only the one 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:13.480 trip to the super Bowl. If I were doing the 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:17.919 all time quarterback rankings, he has the talent of a 0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:22.760 no doubt top five guy, but he can't. And I 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:26.280 understand it's become very in vogue to throw you know 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:30.000 a lot of people in top fives. You're not going 0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:32.240 to find a bigger Matt Stafford fan than me. But 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:35.240 the idea that Stafford is a super Bowl went away 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:38.280 from being top five all time quarterback is obviously, on 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:42.719 its face ludicrous. But if we're talking about the greatest 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:51.120 quarterbacks ever, you have Brady Mahomes manning Montana, you can 0:20:51.200 --> 0:21:00.159 argue about the order for them. For me, John Elway, 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:04.439 and I don't know what you want to do with 0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:09.879 the old folks, Johnny Unitas, Bart star, Otto Graham, those guys, 0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:13.120 but they've got to be accounted for in some degree. 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:17.080 I can't speak to them, but I can't pretend you 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:19.800 can't do an NBA Top ten and not include Russell 0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:22.239 and Will. I don't know that you can do an 0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:26.679 NF Top ten quarterbacks and not include Unitis, Star and Graham. 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:28.320 So I don't know what you want to do with them. 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:32.400 But now we're at eight names, and then we can 0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:39.800 start having the Steve Young, Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, Drew 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:46.199 Brees discussion. And I know my colleagues are about to 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:48.040 put Josh Allen in there as well. It's the most 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:53.119 talented players. You see Josh Allen wildcard, we can the 0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:59.760 oh yeah. And so I think it's fair if this 0:21:59.840 --> 0:22:05.280 is the end for Rogers, one of the greatest players 0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:15.000 ever who underachieved. There is an element of Wilt Chamberlain 0:22:16.680 --> 0:22:23.720 to Rogers in that a uniquely talented player that up 0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:25.960 to that point in his career we had never seen 0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:31.719 anyone quite like him, but didn't quite win at the 0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:36.879 level that that talent would have demanded, and it was 0:22:36.920 --> 0:22:45.480 because of some own leadership and stylistic failings. So there's 0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:47.920 my Rogers piece of it. I know you want to 0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:49.560 ask me about the Tomlin piece. 0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:52.720 So there's rumors about them wanting to move on from 0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:54.040 Tomlin the Steelers at that. 0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:55.359 Do you think that they should? 0:22:57.200 --> 0:23:04.320 I don't think I don't think that they should, but 0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:11.920 I would understand if they did that these playoffer It's 0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:16.600 not just that he's now tied Marvin Lewis for most 0:23:16.720 --> 0:23:21.240 consecutive losses in the playoffs at seven. It's not just 0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:25.080 that it'll now be ten years since they won a 0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:30.520 playoff game, at a minimum, it's that they have been 0:23:31.760 --> 0:23:39.840 wholly non competitive in these playoff games. The first one, 0:23:40.520 --> 0:23:42.639 so well, if we're gonna do the full streak, I 0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:46.720 guess I gotta be fair. The first one was the 0:23:46.800 --> 0:23:51.200 conference championship game to the Patriots, and again you're playing 0:23:51.200 --> 0:23:54.919 an all time Patriots seems conference championship game, but you 0:23:55.119 --> 0:24:00.359 instantly fell down ten to nothing. You're down three, thirty 0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:04.640 six to nine with minutes left, you lose thirty six 0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:08.840 to seventeen. So you get annihilated in that football game 0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:13.600 that's lost one, lost two on this Timelin losing streak. 0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:22.640 You're at home with the bye, playing Blake Bortles Jacksonville Jaguars, 0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:28.760 and twenty minutes into the game, Demanse, you're down twenty 0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:33.960 one to nothing, and you end up scoring a bunch 0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:36.520 of points. You know, you cut it to seven a 0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:40.400 couple times, but you trail the entirety of the game. 0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:44.600 You lose forty five forty two, and they get grizzlier 0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:50.920 from there. Lost three on this playoff losing streak. You're 0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:57.840 playing the Cleveland Browns and Baker Mayfield. You are down 0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:05.760 twenty eight to nothing in the first quarter and you 0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:14.120 lose forty eight to thirty seven. Game two, Al, I'm sorry, 0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:18.119 Game two, where are we having this? Game? Game five? 0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:25.200 Game five of the playoff losing streak, you're playing the Chiefs. 0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:31.400 You go up seven nothing on a TJ. Watt stripsack 0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:37.480 in the second quarter. You then find yourself down after 0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:42.719 being up seven to nothing, thirty five to seven, thirty 0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:48.840 five to seven. Game six of the playoff losing streak 0:25:50.119 --> 0:25:55.320 last year against Buffalo. Midway through the second quarter, you're 0:25:55.440 --> 0:26:01.359 down twenty one to nothing, and so you lose thirty 0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:02.360 one seventeen. 0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:05.000 If they keep calling he has to focus on offense. 0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:13.000 The well, hold on, hold on, just because I got 0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:16.080 that wrong. That wasn't the I got the year wrong 0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:21.280 on that last one. The Bills loss that was not 0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:24.760 last year. When you're down, that was two years ago. 0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:31.399 Last year's loss was to the Ravens, where once again, 0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:37.760 at halftime, you're down twenty one to nothing and so 0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:41.080 and then this year was a weird one because you 0:26:41.160 --> 0:26:44.879 were in it, but your offense could do nothing, and 0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:48.560 then you get annihilated, but in the final score. So 0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:54.480 I would understand if Steelers fans are like, I'm I've 0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:58.040 had my full here Phil here, But I still think 0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:00.720 he is a really good coach, and I would be 0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:04.840 scared of getting on that coaching carousel again. Now what 0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:06.440 were you saying, Demanday. 0:27:06.520 --> 0:27:09.080 Oh, I just think that maybe focus on something else, 0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:11.720 bringing somebody else to help Tomlin on the offensive side 0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:14.439 of things. It's clear that he doesn't. That's not his 0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:18.520 side of the ball, I think. So that's a huge problem. 0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:22.399 So here's the thing, though, So I think that makes 0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:27.439 sense in general, except for in these playoff games last night, 0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:32.439 notwithstanding the defense has been getting just absolutely crushed. 0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:33.639 Yeah. 0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:39.040 Now, I want to give the Texans their credit and 0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:44.119 we'll talk more about the Texans on Thursday show. Weird 0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:52.119 game because CJ was awful. CJ was awful, and it 0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:56.640 didn't matter because that defense was that good and that 0:27:56.720 --> 0:28:03.000 defense was that ferocious, But you saw how tough it 0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:08.240 is to do business that way, because as great as 0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:12.679 that defense was and as inept as that Steelers offense was, 0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:16.639 that was a one point game or a four point 0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:21.199 game deep into the game. Yeah, it felt like they 0:28:21.280 --> 0:28:27.040 were one busted coverage away at any point from holy shit, 0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:30.320 the Steelers are gonna steal this. I mean that game 0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:34.639 seven to six entering the fourth quarter. It's ten to 0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:37.840 six in the fourth quarter with the Steelers having the 0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:43.840 ball before the Rankins fumble return touchdown that essentially ended 0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:48.800 the game. That Texans defense and Demico Ryans deserved massive credit. 0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:54.960 But if that's how that offense looked against a good 0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:58.760 but not great Steelers defense in a game they had 0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:04.160 Nicocollins for a lot of next week that defense is 0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:07.040 gonna have to be just as good because I don't 0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:08.920 know what that Texans dophin is gonna be able to do. 0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:10.160 And by the way, I want to say some of 0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:14.600 the Nico Collins thing, Nico Collins pretty clearly got concussed 0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:19.239 on like the third playoff of the game. Yes, and 0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:23.320 they they put him back out there, and I understand 0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:26.000 it's the playoffs, and I get they put him back 0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:30.360 out there again. This is this is naked, reckless speculation 0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:33.400 by me. It looked to me like he got concussed 0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:36.960 on the first drive of the game. They checked him 0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:40.640 for it, they put him back out there, and then 0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:45.960 when he got hit again later in the game, they 0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:49.560 it was such a bad concussion. At that point, they 0:29:49.640 --> 0:29:52.720 said he didn't know where he was. He tried to 0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:55.280 walk back to the huddle and they had to cart 0:29:55.360 --> 0:30:00.680 him off. That's brutal, man And again, maybe it was 0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:04.880 just coincidence that it looked like he got concussed. He didn't, 0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:07.680 and then a pretty typical hit gave him one of 0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:11.000 the worst concussions of the NFL season. But that's hard 0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:20.000 to sell me and the Patriots Christian Gonzalez got a concussion, 0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:22.560 tried to go back out there, and they prevented him 0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:24.880 from going back out there, and he went in the protocol. 0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:29.160 Maybe so, maybe both those guys are missing next week. 0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:31.840 It would be impossible for me to think Nico Collins 0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:34.480 gonna be able to play next week. Credit to the 0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:39.840 Texans defense. Maybe you know what demands, Maybe Caleb should 0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:46.400 call CJ and give him some pointers on how to 0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:50.560 get back to the lovely needs to be a Yeah 0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:55.760 he should. Today's show is brought to you by representing 0:30:55.840 --> 0:31:01.080 sponsor hard Rock Bet. 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All right, de Montey, let's 0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:09.080 talk Niners Eagles. 0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:13.040 After a season of iffness, the Eagles were defeated by 0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:16.320 the Niners, even with George Kittle getting an achilles injury. 0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:18.560 Jan's got to get close of the year, but he's 0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:22.400 just doing everything with nothing. You've been on this train 0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:24.760 for the entire season. How are you feeling out that 0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:26.120 Philly is out of the postseason? 0:33:26.880 --> 0:33:31.040 Listen, I don't have anything against the players on the Eagles, 0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:35.600 to be clear. I find their coach wildly annoying, and 0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:41.040 the fans that I have interacted with in person, some 0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:48.280 of them have been some of the most irrationally annoying 0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:53.120 adults I've met in ten years. So that's colored maybe 0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:56.960 my feelings on the Eagles a bit, to be fair. 0:33:57.480 --> 0:33:57.720 Yep. 0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:07.080 With that said, I'm able to remove myself from those 0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:11.320 feelings to analyze what I think is going to happen 0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:14.120 with a team, not what I want. Everything I said 0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:19.319 right there informs what I want to happen, but the 0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:22.839 games and the information inform what I think is going 0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:26.160 to happen. And what I thought was gonna happen with 0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:33.040 the Eagles in the playoffs was what happened with them 0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:40.840 all year long, which is there impossibly inconsistent, wildly underachieving 0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:45.640 offense would be that in the playoffs, and even against 0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:50.120 a Niners defense that was starting three linebackers who were 0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:53.000 not on the roster, two of them a month ago, 0:34:53.400 --> 0:35:00.560 and all backups, that is exactly what that e team 0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:05.880 ended up, being, a defense that could only do so much, 0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:10.320 as great as it was, and an offense that killed 0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:15.520 their season. You can't have a higher three and out 0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:20.319 percentage than just about any team in the NFL in 0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:24.080 a decade and flip a switch come to the playoffs. 0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:31.719 You can't have fourteen of your thirty six halves this 0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:37.279 year score seven points or less and just flip a 0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:42.680 switch come the playoffs. And what has been consistent under 0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:48.640 Sirianni's tenure in Philly is every year, even before Saquon, 0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:54.480 they had a dominant running game with a quarterback that 0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:58.160 was a huge part of it. They did not have 0:35:58.239 --> 0:36:02.840 that this year, Saquon wasn't as dominant, the offensive line 0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:05.919 wasn't as good, Jalen wouldn't run the way he would 0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:11.520 in the past, and they became a more traditional Other 0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:16.680 teams were able to defend them in a more traditional 0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:21.160 fashion where we don't have to devote every single one 0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:25.040 of our resources to stopping the run. We're gonna be 0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:27.440 able to devote a little bit more to stopping the pass. 0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:32.480 And they didn't have a consistent drop back passing offense 0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:41.160 all year. And for me, this season is a far 0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:46.840 bigger indictment on Siriani than it is on Jailen. Jalen 0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:50.279 has earned, to me, far more benefit of the doubt 0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:54.160 than Siriani. We also know, listen, this was not a 0:36:54.200 --> 0:37:01.360 good game by Jalen Hurts. This was the There have 0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:05.400 only been three He's lost four career playoff games, a 0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:09.359 super Bowl and three in the wildcard round. The three 0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:14.400 wildcard round losses were all three losses where he played poorly. 0:37:14.840 --> 0:37:18.440 So this was only the third time he's ever they've 0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:21.839 lost a playoff game, and one of the fair fingers 0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:26.040 you can point is at him. With that said, that 0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:31.239 happens and Jalen I thought was a steady hand for 0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:36.080 this team, even though I thought his ability to read 0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:41.280 the field and his ability to make passes to every 0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:44.719 quadrant of the field or lack of ability tore hurt 0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:51.520 them this year. But that that's a You'll deal with 0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:54.200 that because he's such a good leader, he's so tough, 0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:58.040 he's been so clutch historically, Like he's not listen. Is 0:37:58.040 --> 0:38:00.600 he one of the five best quarterbacks in football? To me? 0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:03.480 Pretty clearly not? Is he a guy you can win 0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:08.080 a Super Bowl with? Literally? Obviously? Yes? Has he upped 0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:12.279 his level of play in the two biggest games he's 0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:18.160 ever played in, Absolutely so you can deal with some 0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:23.040 of that from jailing a bad game, missing a couple guys. 0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:34.080 Sirianni's a different situation where there were three major jobs 0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:38.080 for Nick Sirianni this year that presented themselves during the year. 0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:44.720 The first one was as an offensive minded head coach, 0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:52.279 how do we get our offense on track? He never 0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:59.640 answered that bell. The second one was do I need 0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:04.480 to make a mid season coordinator change as we've done 0:39:04.520 --> 0:39:10.040 in the past, because Kevin Bittullo ain't ready for this 0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:15.799 and isn't equipped for it. He chose not to, and 0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:18.759 the third one was am I going to be able 0:39:18.800 --> 0:39:23.680 to get my arms around whatever's going on with aj Brown? 0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:27.920 And if not, do we need to cut bait with 0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:32.560 him at the trade deadline? He was not able to 0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:34.719 get his arms around it at any point all year, 0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:41.560 and they didn't trade him. He did find time to 0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:49.839 excuse me, he did find time to flip his shit 0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:55.840 at Bill's fans for no reason whatsoever, and to generally 0:39:57.120 --> 0:39:59.959 act in a way no other NFL head coach act. 0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:05.560 But he didn't do a good job this year. And 0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:12.359 we have seen this from Philadelphia before, so I will 0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:19.399 say it again. Nick Sirianni enters next season with one 0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:27.560 of the hottest seats in the NFL, like because so 0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:31.960 many coaches got fired. It's hard to really like find 0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:35.759 coaching hot seats because most of the guys on the 0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:40.239 hot seat got fired already. But I would say next year, 0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:45.200 just sitting here today, Aaron Glenn after that train wreck 0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:53.520 of a season, Zach Taylor after three consecutive missed postseasons 0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:59.399 with Joe Burrow, Shane Steichen after another Colt season where 0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:05.759 ugh they were okay. Tomlin, well, I don't know the 0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:08.400 Tomlin thing. That's the thing is I Tomlin, I'm not. 0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:12.680 I'm not sure where that's going to go. Tomlin Lafloor. 0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:16.480 Are they going to be there or not? Like those 0:41:16.520 --> 0:41:21.480 are the two guys. Todd Bowles enters next season with 0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:26.880 a warm seat, but I don't know if any of 0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:30.319 those seats are hotter than Sirianni's next year. 0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:33.799 Well yeah, now, all those other coaches, this guy doesn't 0:41:33.800 --> 0:41:36.200 even really get along with his players, So I think 0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:39.720 those other guys don't have that that to them. 0:41:40.480 --> 0:41:43.359 The most of those other the Packers would be the 0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:50.040 exception to this. Most of those other teams also don't 0:41:50.120 --> 0:41:53.319 have a front office that feels like, yeah, you have 0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:58.040 a super Bowl caliber, great team. And here is the 0:41:58.160 --> 0:42:08.720 other thing for Philly that void money time bomb is waiting. 0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:10.600 And by that, here's what I mean. I'm gonna see 0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:15.279 if I can find the tweet that the Eagles run 0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:19.200 their cap in a way. Let me see if I 0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:22.880 can find it no one else does. And if I 0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:24.640 do find it, I'll send it to you guys. Maybe 0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:26.200 we can get it on the show. Maybe not, but 0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:29.960 if not, it's okay. The I should have pulled this 0:42:30.040 --> 0:42:36.719 up before, and okay, here it is. I'm I'm gonna 0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:39.560 text it to our group chat right now. This is 0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:45.080 from Dan Rodgers. Uh, so credit to him for doing 0:42:45.120 --> 0:42:49.640 the work here. Uh and sorry for doing this on 0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:53.040 the fly, guys the Eagles that one of the reasons 0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:55.360 the Eagles are able to have such a great roster 0:42:56.120 --> 0:43:04.799 is because they borrow from future ye and oh you 0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:07.880 know what, I gave Dan Rodgers credit. I really should 0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:12.959 have given SF Data forty nine ers credit because they're 0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:18.560 the ones who built the graphic initially. So the Eagles 0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:23.960 have structured contracts to where and I don't think this 0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:28.240 is necessarily dumb at all. But as I've talked about 0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:33.640 ninety seconds of nerd cap stuff here, every single dollar 0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:37.480 you pay any player on your roster at some point 0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:42.120 shows up on your salary cap books as a salary 0:43:42.120 --> 0:43:46.520 cap charge. The Eagles because their owner is willing to 0:43:48.680 --> 0:43:54.440 pay a lot of cash up front, the Eagles borrow 0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:59.960 from way down the line years by adding voidable us 0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:04.080 on the end of contracts to stack the roster now, 0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:08.239 because it's like, we've got a super Bowl caliber roster team, quarterback, 0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:12.200 all of it. And then they take their medicine in 0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:17.200 a couple of years, have a reset season, and then 0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:23.040 you know, started started anew but they have done it 0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:27.400 in a way that no team has ever and don't 0:44:27.400 --> 0:44:31.759 put the tweet up yet no team has ever structured 0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:37.200 it contracts quite like this. Like there's a half dozen 0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:40.960 teams in the league that just don't do void years, 0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:49.840 that have zero zero players on their salary cap with 0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:53.759 voidable future years. And again, if I'm describing this, put 0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:57.239 demonster on the screen the way to explain it, I 0:44:57.239 --> 0:44:59.400 think is the best way. So, like, let me use 0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:02.400 a league averag team. As far as void money in 0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:05.640 the future, the Rams are dead in the middle, seventeenth 0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:08.640 out of thirty two teams and most money on void years. 0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:15.520 They have forty seven million in future salary cap charges 0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:20.920 that are gonna hit their books in future years for 0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:24.640 money they have played. They have paid players that are 0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:27.240 on their current roster who won't be on the roster 0:45:27.320 --> 0:45:30.280 those years, do you understand, So they have borrowed forty 0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:38.719 seven million dollars from future RAMS teams for the right exactly. 0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:41.600 So now the cap will go up, and so they'll 0:45:41.640 --> 0:45:44.239 you know, and they probably think and in a few 0:45:44.320 --> 0:45:47.200 years we won't have a super expensive quarterback. It'll be fine. 0:45:47.440 --> 0:45:50.080 So the Rams are league average at forty seven million. 0:45:51.360 --> 0:45:58.520 Now throw up the tweet. The Eagles are at four 0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:05.160 hundred and twenty two million dollars borrowed from future cap years, 0:46:05.960 --> 0:46:11.600 including two hundred and forty nine million dollars as it's 0:46:11.640 --> 0:46:18.280 currently written, borrowed from the twenty twenty eight Philadelphia Eagles. 0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:22.040 So Noah. The only other team in the league that's 0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:27.319 above two hundred million is the Browns, and more than 0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:30.680 half of that is the disasters to Sean Watson contract. 0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:35.799 The The Broncos are in fifth. They did it to 0:46:35.880 --> 0:46:40.640 deal with in part, the Russell Wilson of dead money, 0:46:41.040 --> 0:46:45.880 you know, so the dead money that the Lions, you know, 0:46:45.920 --> 0:46:48.480 have borrowed from well down the road a bit because 0:46:48.480 --> 0:46:52.360 they feel like, basically the Lions philosophy, I think, is 0:46:52.719 --> 0:46:55.239 be as awesome as we can be right now, and 0:46:55.280 --> 0:46:57.399 then by the time this void money hits golf will 0:46:57.400 --> 0:46:58.640 be off the books. 0:46:58.920 --> 0:46:59.120 Yeah. 0:46:59.200 --> 0:47:07.680 The Eagles have a contractual bomb ticking in the form 0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:13.400 of the twenty twenty eight season is when the chickens 0:47:13.440 --> 0:47:17.799 come home to roost and you retool, which makes the 0:47:17.800 --> 0:47:20.680 twenty twenty sixth season all the more valuable to them. 0:47:21.760 --> 0:47:24.399 And it also is why when people talk about them 0:47:24.600 --> 0:47:32.040 trading AJ Brown. It's really not that simple so AJ Brown, 0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:36.319 because they've structured his contract, and with aj they have 0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:41.040 all those void years as well. If they wanted to 0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:46.160 cut him, demonse right now for next season. AJ Brown's 0:47:46.200 --> 0:47:51.919 cap hit is a super manageable, super cheap twenty three 0:47:52.000 --> 0:47:56.879 million dollars. But if they were to cut him, his 0:47:57.000 --> 0:48:00.879 cap hit to not play for them is seventy two 0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:06.919 million dollars because all that other money gets accelerated. If 0:48:06.920 --> 0:48:12.239 they trade him, his cap hit becomes forty three million dollars. 0:48:12.480 --> 0:48:15.320 Now you can split that up into the twenty twenty 0:48:15.360 --> 0:48:17.640 six and twenty twenty seven year. We don't have to 0:48:17.640 --> 0:48:20.000 spend as much time on this as I'm doing right now. 0:48:20.239 --> 0:48:23.880 My point is this the Eagles have because they have 0:48:23.880 --> 0:48:27.440 an aggressive owner who's willing to spend money. They have 0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:32.120 an aggressive GM, they have put and they won a 0:48:32.200 --> 0:48:35.560 damn Super Bowl like they went to Souper Bowl two 0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:38.879 years ago or three years ago. They won it last year. 0:48:39.280 --> 0:48:44.840 This philosophy objectively has worked and has been smart, but 0:48:44.960 --> 0:48:53.080 it makes this type of season failing all the more painful, 0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:54.120 and it makes. 0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:55.960 They're gonna be trash in a few years. 0:48:56.200 --> 0:48:59.640 Well, I don't think money listen. I think that they 0:48:59.680 --> 0:49:03.880 will have much like they had after their last super 0:49:03.880 --> 0:49:07.000 Bowl win. A couple of years later, they had a 0:49:07.080 --> 0:49:09.960 super down year and then immediately got back. So I 0:49:09.960 --> 0:49:12.120 don't think they're gonna be It's not like the Saints. 0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:15.719 You're like just off in the wilderness four years, but 0:49:15.840 --> 0:49:20.000 you're going to reset the roster in a couple of years. 0:49:20.400 --> 0:49:24.799 So having it's a really weird trend they've been on 0:49:24.960 --> 0:49:29.960 of the last five years. Bounced in round one, make 0:49:30.000 --> 0:49:33.640 a super Bowl, bounced in round one, win the super Bowl, 0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:36.799 bounced in round one. Now you win another super Bowl, 0:49:36.880 --> 0:49:40.360 make another super Bowl. Feels great. If next year goes poorly, 0:49:42.440 --> 0:49:45.520 I think a ton of changes come to Philly. So 0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:50.239 that's my Eagles, you know, stance on it. And I 0:49:50.360 --> 0:49:52.279 just think Sirianni's got to grow up a bit. 0:49:54.280 --> 0:49:55.400 Yeah. 0:49:55.440 --> 0:50:02.319 And I also think that the thing for Jalen is 0:50:03.440 --> 0:50:07.920 because the film is never gonna be super impressive. The 0:50:07.960 --> 0:50:13.560 thing about your your rep being I'm just a winner, 0:50:15.160 --> 0:50:20.000 you gotta win, and them getting bouncing around one in 0:50:20.080 --> 0:50:23.400 a home playoff game and him playing poorly, it's not, 0:50:24.239 --> 0:50:29.839 you know, cataclysmic, but it dings him a bit. All right, 0:50:29.920 --> 0:50:31.440 let's talk Niners for a second. 0:50:32.000 --> 0:50:33.839 So we know the forty nine ers guys have been 0:50:33.920 --> 0:50:35.879 dropping throughout the year and they just lost. 0:50:36.000 --> 0:50:39.480 Yeah, it's that power plant. Have you following that story? 0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:41.239 Well, what's going on with the power plant? 0:50:41.400 --> 0:50:45.520 The I don't know is probably I probably sound like 0:50:45.520 --> 0:50:49.040 an idiot, but there is some like energy way station 0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:53.320 or something that's next to the Niners practice facility in stadium. 0:50:54.000 --> 0:50:57.239 And this guy who wrote a book called Sunlight His 0:50:57.320 --> 0:51:02.560 Life went out there with a gossometer and check checked 0:51:02.640 --> 0:51:07.120 like the energy waves. And basically he's telling us the 0:51:07.239 --> 0:51:14.840 Niners players, ligaments, tendons, all that shit are yes, exactly 0:51:15.200 --> 0:51:18.799 getting Chernobyl. And that's why for a decade they've been 0:51:18.800 --> 0:51:23.839 the most injured team. I'm saying I can't say the theory, 0:51:24.040 --> 0:51:26.759 but I'm not saying I don't believe it. They have 0:51:26.880 --> 0:51:30.600 been so injured every year for a decade and there's 0:51:30.600 --> 0:51:32.920 been no explanation. This guy thinks he figured it out. 0:51:34.960 --> 0:51:37.080 I can't rule it out, but go ahead. 0:51:37.640 --> 0:51:40.239 So, yeah, Kittle just tore his achilles. 0:51:40.680 --> 0:51:42.680 Do you believe in this team still or is this 0:51:42.880 --> 0:51:45.680 just too many injuries for them to still keep winning. 0:51:47.160 --> 0:51:51.600 I mean it. We just saw him play the Seahawks 0:51:53.560 --> 0:51:57.160 and that game was close. They were in it. Like 0:51:57.239 --> 0:52:02.880 that game turned, didn't that game turn on a Brock 0:52:03.040 --> 0:52:06.279 interception late? And I'm gonna give Brock some credit here 0:52:06.280 --> 0:52:10.799 in a minute, but like I let me let me 0:52:10.920 --> 0:52:14.279 check this. I feel like that's how I remember it. Yeah, 0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:20.320 I mean threw that game was third. I guess turned 0:52:20.400 --> 0:52:24.360 is maybe unfair, but that game was thirteen to three Niners, 0:52:24.920 --> 0:52:30.319 and yeah, that's the man threw I'm sorry, thirteen to 0:52:30.360 --> 0:52:35.719 three Seahawks. I misspoke. Thirteen to three Seahawks and the 0:52:35.880 --> 0:52:39.040 Niners in the early fourth quarter have a second in 0:52:39.080 --> 0:52:41.480 goal from the six to make it thirteen to ten, 0:52:41.880 --> 0:52:45.160 and that was the past he threw to McCaffrey. McCaffrey 0:52:45.200 --> 0:52:48.120 bobbled it and the Seahawks guy took it and that 0:52:48.600 --> 0:52:52.800 basically ended it. Point is they were in that game 0:52:53.600 --> 0:52:57.080 kind of their The Niners defense did a good job 0:52:57.120 --> 0:53:02.480 against Darnold in the game for the one seed last 0:53:02.520 --> 0:53:07.040 Sunday night or the last Saturday night two Saturdays ago, 0:53:11.120 --> 0:53:15.600 so it feels like ruling them out would be disrespectful. 0:53:16.400 --> 0:53:21.640 But Seattle's on two weeks is on a week arrest. 0:53:21.760 --> 0:53:26.080 The Niners are on a short week. The Niners are 0:53:26.800 --> 0:53:29.160 keeping it together with Scotch tape. 0:53:29.800 --> 0:53:32.480 I will listen to the Seahawks too. They have their 0:53:32.680 --> 0:53:35.840 most of their team. This is understandable. They're playing with 0:53:35.920 --> 0:53:38.680 guys that weren't even playing this year, and. 0:53:40.600 --> 0:53:44.799 It would take a Darnald catastrophe, I think for the 0:53:44.800 --> 0:53:47.840 Seahawks to win that game. But none of that should 0:53:47.880 --> 0:53:51.040 take anything away from what I think is an all 0:53:51.080 --> 0:53:55.240 time great coaching job by Kyle Shanahan. Just an all 0:53:55.440 --> 0:54:01.480 time coaching job by Shanahan this year. And I know 0:54:01.520 --> 0:54:04.520 he turned the ball over, I know he made some mistakes. 0:54:05.440 --> 0:54:08.000 I thought perty had a hell of a gutsy performance 0:54:08.480 --> 0:54:13.160 against an excellent Eagles defense. Like I'll give Party credit now. 0:54:13.400 --> 0:54:15.880 Was the nicest pass thrown all day by a Niner 0:54:15.920 --> 0:54:20.479 thrown by their wide receiver. Yes, but I still will 0:54:20.480 --> 0:54:24.960 give Party credit for what I thought was a really 0:54:25.040 --> 0:54:30.480 impressive and another nice come from behind playoff victory like 0:54:30.600 --> 0:54:33.799 that was, And the play to McCaffrey was great and 0:54:33.880 --> 0:54:37.759 so but I think this is the end of the road. 0:54:38.280 --> 0:54:40.400 I also think that is a hell of an impressive 0:54:40.440 --> 0:54:46.440 season for the Niners in that division, and with those injuries, 0:54:46.520 --> 0:54:50.240 all right, we maybe could have led with this. Let's 0:54:50.239 --> 0:54:52.160 talk about the game of the weekend. 0:54:52.760 --> 0:54:55.040 Your boy Caleb pulled off the upset. Where are we 0:54:55.080 --> 0:54:56.920 calling this an upset? Were they favored in that game? 0:54:57.920 --> 0:54:58.280 Flipped? 0:54:58.280 --> 0:54:59.320 It went back and forth? 0:54:59.680 --> 0:55:01.880 Yes, so he pulled he pulled off the comeback. I 0:55:01.880 --> 0:55:04.040 think they won a game where that he didn't lead 0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:08.160 in an offensive snap. Is this you put you put 0:55:08.200 --> 0:55:09.839 you waved him earlier in the year. Is this where 0:55:09.880 --> 0:55:12.359 you imagined him last year when you said that they 0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:13.560 were going to win the Super Bowl? 0:55:14.239 --> 0:55:16.040 Well, I didn't say they're gonna win the super Bowl. 0:55:16.680 --> 0:55:20.600 Make the super Bowl? Sorry and listen. Yeah, I thought 0:55:20.680 --> 0:55:24.560 Caleb at the beginning of this year was shaky because 0:55:24.600 --> 0:55:31.160 he was and he has been shaky in the first 0:55:31.360 --> 0:55:34.479 half of all three of these Packer games. They played 0:55:34.520 --> 0:55:37.000 the Packers three times de Monsey, they beat him twice. 0:55:37.360 --> 0:55:40.520 They had the ball with the lead, zero snaps. Yeah, 0:55:40.560 --> 0:55:43.360 in the whole, in the whole, in all three games. Right, 0:55:43.640 --> 0:55:45.919 the Packers had one hundred and six snaps with the lead, 0:55:46.200 --> 0:55:49.680 the Bears had zero, and the Bears won two of them. 0:55:50.440 --> 0:55:51.080 Resiliency. 0:55:51.160 --> 0:55:57.480 But the reason that so there's I mean, there's two 0:55:57.560 --> 0:56:04.120 angles here. There's the Packers absolutely blowing it even though 0:56:04.160 --> 0:56:09.400 Jordan Love your guy was awesome, and just find like 0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:13.719 I've never seen a team the Packers had the ball 0:56:14.040 --> 0:56:18.440 seven times after going up twenty one to three and 0:56:18.640 --> 0:56:22.239 scored a touchdown and never turned it over and the 0:56:22.280 --> 0:56:28.920 Bears got uh did turn it over and the Bears 0:56:28.920 --> 0:56:31.960 came back. Anyway, like when the when the Jags came 0:56:32.000 --> 0:56:36.360 back against the Chargers four years ago, the Jags every 0:56:36.440 --> 0:56:38.440 single time they had the ball to score a touchdown, 0:56:38.920 --> 0:56:41.560 the Bears are kicking field goals, they're getting stopped on 0:56:41.640 --> 0:56:45.760 fourth down, and they still came back. That's a catastrophe 0:56:46.360 --> 0:56:46.879 of a loss. 0:56:47.360 --> 0:56:51.160 Ben Johnson thing, Yes, it's in Johnson. 0:56:52.000 --> 0:56:54.520 What direction well in a good way. 0:56:54.680 --> 0:56:56.319 Like I just feel like if he's able to do 0:56:56.360 --> 0:56:58.120 that type of stuff even after. 0:56:58.280 --> 0:57:02.239 The ball goals, I mean, that's what's interesting. He also 0:57:02.280 --> 0:57:05.840 had what I thought was a bizarre fourth down decision 0:57:05.920 --> 0:57:07.560 early in the game when they went for it on 0:57:07.600 --> 0:57:09.480 like fourth and four on their own thirty two, Like 0:57:09.560 --> 0:57:11.600 I didn't know what they were doing. He seemed like 0:57:11.640 --> 0:57:15.080 he was on tilt. But they came back, and yes, 0:57:15.160 --> 0:57:16.840 he gets a lot of credit for the play design 0:57:16.920 --> 0:57:20.240 on coming back. But the story of that game and 0:57:20.280 --> 0:57:23.440 why that game will be remembered is it was Caleb 0:57:23.480 --> 0:57:31.919 Williams on full display that there are things he can 0:57:32.000 --> 0:57:39.360 do that only two other guys in the league, Mahomes 0:57:39.400 --> 0:57:43.800 and Josh can do. That throw he made on fourth 0:57:43.800 --> 0:57:50.120 and eight down eleven season, on the line, gliding to 0:57:50.240 --> 0:57:56.440 his left without his feet set, with three defenders around 0:57:57.200 --> 0:58:01.560 the guy he's throwing to. I say this without hyperbole. 0:58:02.200 --> 0:58:04.600 It's one of the five best catches, one of the 0:58:04.640 --> 0:58:08.560 five best throws when you consider the degree of difficulty, 0:58:08.920 --> 0:58:13.320 the context and the stakes in the last decade in 0:58:13.360 --> 0:58:20.760 the NFL, and the the things he can do cannot 0:58:20.800 --> 0:58:25.680 be taught. So you just hope he gets better at 0:58:25.760 --> 0:58:31.360 the things that are easily taught. But the Bears that 0:58:33.160 --> 0:58:37.400 teams this year not named the Chicago Bears demanse when 0:58:37.480 --> 0:58:42.320 trailing by double digits in the final five minutes are 0:58:42.520 --> 0:58:49.000 three and one fifty nine. The Bears are three and three. 0:58:51.200 --> 0:58:57.720 It is these comebacks that they've had. It's not down 0:58:57.840 --> 0:59:02.560 four goes, get a drive, it's down two scores late, 0:59:03.520 --> 0:59:06.400 and they just do it again and again. Now that's 0:59:06.400 --> 0:59:11.320 a not year over year, Well, the Chiefs weren't down big. 0:59:11.400 --> 0:59:13.120 They just winning the close games. 0:59:13.200 --> 0:59:14.560 Yeah. 0:59:14.880 --> 0:59:18.600 And but to your point about the Chiefs, that's that's 0:59:18.640 --> 0:59:23.760 not year over year sustainable, but it might be sustainable 0:59:23.840 --> 0:59:29.360 next week. It does mean that they are the only 0:59:29.480 --> 0:59:32.840 team in these playoffs that if they're down ten entering 0:59:32.880 --> 0:59:34.960 the fourth quarter feels fine. 0:59:35.640 --> 0:59:35.760 Right. 0:59:36.320 --> 0:59:43.919 And I if Matt Stafford retires, and I don't think 0:59:43.920 --> 0:59:46.120 he will, but just let's say they win the Super 0:59:46.160 --> 0:59:50.480 Bowl and he's like, all right, I'm done for me. 0:59:52.080 --> 0:59:55.320 Kalabile inter next year. The best quarterback in the NFC 0:59:57.640 --> 1:00:00.720 as good as Jordan Love was yesterday. I like Caleb Moore. 1:00:01.120 --> 1:00:04.439 I think he is. I'd take him over Golf. I'd 1:00:04.440 --> 1:00:07.120 take him over anyone in the NFC East, take him 1:00:07.160 --> 1:00:10.640 over anyone in the NFC South. I is Stafford's the best, 1:00:10.720 --> 1:00:17.600 but he he is that guy and for all you know, 1:00:17.640 --> 1:00:24.760 whatever people want to say about his personality or his emotion, 1:00:24.840 --> 1:00:27.040 how emotional he is, and you can see the emotion 1:00:27.200 --> 1:00:30.120 for good or for bad during the game. His teammates 1:00:30.160 --> 1:00:33.360 have rallied around him, and his coach loves him, and 1:00:37.080 --> 1:00:44.600 I I think Caleb Stafford next week is the game 1:00:44.880 --> 1:00:49.240 of the divisional round weekend on the Green Bay side 1:00:49.240 --> 1:00:51.760 of things. Quickly before we get to Bill's Jaggs demonse, 1:00:52.880 --> 1:00:57.160 this team was nine to three and one, and then 1:00:57.200 --> 1:01:03.040 Micah Parsons got hurt and they never one again. 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You said earlier in the show 1:02:13.440 --> 1:02:15.320 that the winner of this game was going to the 1:02:15.320 --> 1:02:18.080 super Bowl. After seeing that game and how it played out, 1:02:18.200 --> 1:02:19.320 is that's still how you feel. 1:02:21.840 --> 1:02:24.720 I mean, listen, the Bills are a flawed team. They're 1:02:24.760 --> 1:02:26.920 not as bad as some people make them out to be. 1:02:26.960 --> 1:02:28.520 They have a great offensive line, they have a great 1:02:28.600 --> 1:02:30.840 running back, they have a good pass defense, they don't 1:02:30.880 --> 1:02:33.240 have good receivers, and they don't have a good run defense. 1:02:33.360 --> 1:02:39.480 But they also have the second best quarterback of his 1:02:39.600 --> 1:02:44.120 generation and the best quarterback in these playoffs with respect 1:02:44.120 --> 1:02:48.640 to Stafford and Josh is on an all time playoff heater. 1:02:49.240 --> 1:02:54.200 Since Josh Allen Demons lost to the Bengals in the 1:02:54.240 --> 1:02:57.560 Divisional round three years ago, he's played six playoff games. 1:02:57.600 --> 1:03:01.000 Now he's lost two of them to mahone. But in 1:03:01.040 --> 1:03:04.800 those six playoff games, he has sixteen touchdowns, no turnovers, 1:03:05.520 --> 1:03:10.160 and a one oh five rating. And this is why 1:03:12.520 --> 1:03:16.640 some folks thought they were defending Josh Allen by giving 1:03:16.840 --> 1:03:20.360 pre writing excuses for how the Bills were gonna lose 1:03:20.760 --> 1:03:24.680 and explaining how it was unfair to ask Josh Allen 1:03:25.040 --> 1:03:28.160 to win a road wild card game against the Jags, 1:03:29.840 --> 1:03:38.000 and that's disrespect. What doing that does is it lowers 1:03:38.040 --> 1:03:43.560 the stakes. And if you lower the stakes, then when 1:03:43.600 --> 1:03:50.360 you come through, it's less impactful, it's less resonant. It 1:03:50.880 --> 1:03:54.000 was important that Josh Allen find a way to win 1:03:54.040 --> 1:03:58.840 that game. It was important after in twenty twenty three 1:03:59.240 --> 1:04:02.520 he had the ball in his hands down less than 1:04:02.560 --> 1:04:07.880 a touchdown in the fourth quarter of the Divisional round 1:04:07.880 --> 1:04:11.520 against the Chiefs and didn't come through. And then in 1:04:11.560 --> 1:04:14.760 twenty twenty four had the ball in his hands down 1:04:14.840 --> 1:04:18.080 less than a touchdown in the conference championship game against 1:04:18.080 --> 1:04:21.800 the Chiefs and didn't come through that. This year, he 1:04:21.840 --> 1:04:24.400 had the ball in his hands in the fourth quarter 1:04:24.880 --> 1:04:28.240 down less than a touchdown against the Jags, and he 1:04:28.280 --> 1:04:30.720 made one of the best plays of his life, that 1:04:30.880 --> 1:04:35.120 forty yard throw down the field to Brandon Cooks to 1:04:35.200 --> 1:04:39.920 then set up the game winning touchdown. That's how you 1:04:39.960 --> 1:04:43.880 write your legend. And if the Bills now have an 1:04:43.880 --> 1:04:47.560 opportunity to go into Denver and keep in mind Josh 1:04:47.640 --> 1:04:51.120 Allen played college football in Wyoming, which is at a 1:04:51.200 --> 1:04:55.880 higher elevation than Denver, so he's used to it. He 1:04:55.920 --> 1:04:58.880 goes in there against that defense and does it again. 1:05:00.000 --> 1:05:03.360 It then gets to be a game away from finally 1:05:03.400 --> 1:05:06.240 reaching a super Bowl and knowing he's not gonna have 1:05:06.240 --> 1:05:09.760 to deal with Mahomes to get there. He was great. 1:05:10.880 --> 1:05:15.160 He was great. Now do people go a little over 1:05:15.240 --> 1:05:17.680 to you know, Collins calling him the greatest I think 1:05:17.720 --> 1:05:20.520 the greatest quarterback he's ever seen. Is that too much 1:05:20.560 --> 1:05:25.560 for me? Sure? But he's great. He is a future 1:05:25.600 --> 1:05:29.360 Hall of Famer. He is at his peak of his powers. 1:05:29.640 --> 1:05:33.240 He's banged up, it doesn't matter. He's finding a way. 1:05:34.240 --> 1:05:39.080 That's how you become a legend. I hate that it 1:05:39.120 --> 1:05:41.720 came at the expense of my guy, Trevor. Trevor in 1:05:41.760 --> 1:05:47.120 that game, Demanse third quarterback ever to in the fourth 1:05:47.200 --> 1:05:53.800 quarter of a playoff game, have two go ahead touchdowns 1:05:54.480 --> 1:05:57.840 and lose the game Drew Brees in twenty eleven. It 1:05:57.960 --> 1:06:01.560 happened to Josh in the third seconds game and Trevor 1:06:01.600 --> 1:06:05.920 in that game. Now, Trevor made a huge mistake. At 1:06:05.920 --> 1:06:08.760 the end of that game, you're down three of a 1:06:08.800 --> 1:06:11.280 minute left, you have the strongest leaid kicker in the league. 1:06:11.360 --> 1:06:14.040 You don't need to force it, and he forced it. 1:06:14.840 --> 1:06:17.960 And the reason they were in that position was because, 1:06:17.960 --> 1:06:23.040 in my opinion, the Bills made a huge mistake by 1:06:23.120 --> 1:06:27.560 scoring when they did. There's a minute five left, the 1:06:27.680 --> 1:06:33.200 Jags have no timeouts. You're on the one. You can 1:06:33.280 --> 1:06:36.240 do a fake quarterback sneak. Essentially you don't have to go, 1:06:36.280 --> 1:06:37.919 but you don't have to kneel and lose a bunch 1:06:37.920 --> 1:06:42.480 of yards. But the optimals thing for the Bills to 1:06:42.520 --> 1:06:45.200 do in that spot would have been snap the ball 1:06:45.240 --> 1:06:48.400 to Josh, have Josh fall down right where he gets 1:06:48.440 --> 1:06:51.200 it a little bit forward. The Jags aren't gonna hitch 1:06:51.240 --> 1:06:55.320 you because they want you to score. And then you 1:06:55.320 --> 1:06:57.840 have three timeouts. There's a minute five left, the Jags 1:06:57.840 --> 1:07:06.120 have zero. You can it's a very simple math equation there. 1:07:08.040 --> 1:07:12.760 What scares you more if your goal is to win 1:07:12.800 --> 1:07:18.320 the game only having three chances to get one yard 1:07:19.240 --> 1:07:24.600 and the Jags being left with less than twenty seconds, 1:07:24.760 --> 1:07:29.280 or having four chances to get one yard and the 1:07:29.400 --> 1:07:34.080 Jags being left potentially with a minute. The Bills and 1:07:34.120 --> 1:07:37.240 Sean McDermott chose the latter. They obviously should have chosen 1:07:37.280 --> 1:07:41.680 the former. The optimal decision there is what Vrabel did 1:07:41.720 --> 1:07:43.840 at the end of a first half earlier this year. 1:07:44.320 --> 1:07:48.960 Have your guy go down, let the clock run all 1:07:49.000 --> 1:07:52.640 the way to twenty seconds, call your first time out, 1:07:52.680 --> 1:07:56.080 and then you have three shots if you need it 1:07:57.800 --> 1:08:00.640 to score and leave the Jags with no time. The 1:08:00.760 --> 1:08:04.240 Jags were thrilled the Bills scored when they did, but 1:08:04.280 --> 1:08:09.560 then Trevor made the big mistake. And if Trevor had 1:08:09.680 --> 1:08:13.200 come through, if Trevor had driven the length of the 1:08:13.240 --> 1:08:17.120 field in that final minute and the Jags scored a touchdown, 1:08:17.520 --> 1:08:19.840 I promise you I wouldn't be on TV or on 1:08:19.920 --> 1:08:22.320 here killing Josh Allen. You gotta win that game. He 1:08:22.479 --> 1:08:27.200 was great. That would have been a junior varsity version 1:08:27.240 --> 1:08:30.040 of the thirteen seconds game when no one has ever 1:08:30.120 --> 1:08:35.280 criticized him for that game. So it's not that it's 1:08:35.360 --> 1:08:38.640 binary win or lose, but it is how did you 1:08:38.800 --> 1:08:42.479 play and did you put your team in position? And 1:08:42.600 --> 1:08:47.080 Josh was brilliant. Josh was absolutely brilliant. Did you want 1:08:47.080 --> 1:08:50.000 to say something to Monsey. 1:08:50.040 --> 1:08:52.519 Yeah, no, he was solid And it kind of reminded 1:08:52.560 --> 1:08:55.960 me when when they got the ball after the picker 1:08:56.120 --> 1:08:57.960 just in the late games. I just kind of felt 1:08:58.000 --> 1:08:59.759 late in the game, I just felt like the Bills 1:09:00.080 --> 1:09:01.240 was their destiny. 1:09:00.840 --> 1:09:02.639 And I knew that Josh Allen was kind of gonna 1:09:02.680 --> 1:09:03.599 do whatever. 1:09:03.960 --> 1:09:07.120 You're felt like, yes, if you had that confidence that 1:09:07.200 --> 1:09:10.080 he's going to make this happen. Yeah, and that's the 1:09:10.200 --> 1:09:11.920 last step of greatness. 1:09:12.240 --> 1:09:18.160 Yeah. This is like a very very sidebar the Jags. 1:09:18.240 --> 1:09:21.800 The Jags reporter that you know telling hype and Liam 1:09:21.800 --> 1:09:24.680 calling up, you know, saying you'll get him next year. 1:09:25.160 --> 1:09:27.320 That was crazy, Like that was because I feel like 1:09:27.360 --> 1:09:29.639 there's a lot of outrage for it, and. 1:09:29.520 --> 1:09:31.920 I just what do you think of the outrage. 1:09:33.520 --> 1:09:36.200 I think I think that it's for something else, Like 1:09:36.280 --> 1:09:39.040 I think that I don't know, I think. 1:09:38.920 --> 1:09:39.599 That it's crazy. 1:09:39.880 --> 1:09:43.320 Like I think that there's like those press conferences are 1:09:43.360 --> 1:09:45.760 there for you know, reporters. I don't want to say 1:09:45.760 --> 1:09:48.400 poke fun at coaches, but just kind of make their 1:09:48.479 --> 1:09:50.920 life a little bit more difficult and explain themselves. And 1:09:50.960 --> 1:09:52.840 I feel like most of the time it's in I 1:09:52.880 --> 1:09:56.160 wouldn't call it condescending or derogatory, but it's more negative 1:09:56.160 --> 1:09:59.240 than it is positive. And this one time somebody trying 1:09:59.240 --> 1:10:02.320 to make it positive. It people are pissed about it. 1:10:02.720 --> 1:10:09.479 The number of people that publicly whined about this old 1:10:09.560 --> 1:10:15.160 black lady trying to make Liam Cohen feel better. There 1:10:15.200 --> 1:10:17.479 as so much in this Let me tell you something, 1:10:18.200 --> 1:10:21.320 You know what feels great no matter how down you are, 1:10:22.280 --> 1:10:26.120 having an old, nice black woman tell you pick yourself up. 1:10:28.160 --> 1:10:31.760 I'm just not get it. 1:10:33.840 --> 1:10:39.599 Yes, And and that woman's been part of the press 1:10:39.640 --> 1:10:45.519 for decades and now would it be a problem if 1:10:47.920 --> 1:10:51.160 that's what the entirety of the press conference was. 1:10:51.360 --> 1:10:53.360 Or if it was like a regular season, like if 1:10:53.360 --> 1:10:55.360 it were like games but they're out of the playoffs, 1:10:55.400 --> 1:10:55.960 like it's done. 1:10:57.400 --> 1:11:00.160 Everybody's Some of the media is so self serious. It 1:11:00.200 --> 1:11:05.240 was thirty seconds, doesn't matter. It also gave me an 1:11:05.720 --> 1:11:08.479 idea for this week's sports media on Budsman on the 1:11:08.479 --> 1:11:10.599 TV show. I'll share it with you guys right now, 1:11:10.600 --> 1:11:16.000 a little sneak preview because I loved it. I think 1:11:16.160 --> 1:11:22.080 every NFL team's postgame press conference for the coaches needs 1:11:22.120 --> 1:11:28.840 to have two designated chairs and they each get one question. Okay, 1:11:29.040 --> 1:11:33.320 and one chair is and you call it the homer 1:11:33.880 --> 1:11:37.439 and the hater, and the coach has to answer a 1:11:37.520 --> 1:11:40.760 question the homer gets to say whatever they want it, 1:11:41.120 --> 1:11:44.640 pick them up, and the hater gets to just absolutely 1:11:44.640 --> 1:11:51.120 even if wins or losses, rip them the And so 1:11:52.280 --> 1:11:56.000 the homer and the hater, the coach can decide he 1:11:56.040 --> 1:11:58.120 has to start with one and end with the other, 1:11:58.439 --> 1:12:00.000 and he can decide how he wants to do it. 1:12:00.479 --> 1:12:05.000 And in the middle of everybody else's questions. Uh, but 1:12:05.240 --> 1:12:09.760 I and here's the other thing. Just to my media colleagues, 1:12:13.840 --> 1:12:21.760 you're allowed to have an opinion on that, lady, and 1:12:21.920 --> 1:12:24.120 keep it to yourself or keep it to your group chat. 1:12:25.360 --> 1:12:29.840 You don't have to tweet about it. You really really don't. 1:12:32.200 --> 1:12:34.800 All right, we've gone so long, we haven't even gotten 1:12:34.840 --> 1:12:36.360 to two of the games, So let me just try 1:12:36.360 --> 1:12:40.880 to quickly get to these other two Patch Chargers. Listen, 1:12:41.479 --> 1:12:45.040 Drake May was shaky early and then was very good late. 1:12:45.680 --> 1:12:49.439 It was a pretty typical first playoff game. You saw 1:12:49.479 --> 1:12:52.280 some jitters, but he's so talented that he came through 1:12:52.800 --> 1:12:57.200 and the Patriots defense was awesome. I'm not I spent 1:12:57.400 --> 1:13:01.040 enough on this yesterday on TV arguing with Danny, and 1:13:01.280 --> 1:13:08.720 at this point it just the facts are what the 1:13:08.720 --> 1:13:15.120 facts are. Justin Herbert's played ten consecutive f minus quarters 1:13:15.120 --> 1:13:19.120 of playoff football, Justin Herbert has the second lowest career 1:13:19.200 --> 1:13:24.839 playoff passer rate, ahead of only Andy Dalton. Justin Herbert, 1:13:26.400 --> 1:13:28.680 now that the all twenty two guys have gotten a 1:13:28.680 --> 1:13:31.960 hold of that film, had guys open the first three 1:13:32.080 --> 1:13:35.679 quarters of that game a lot and wouldn't pull the trigger. 1:13:36.840 --> 1:13:39.400 Justin Herbert's comments after the game make it sound like 1:13:39.439 --> 1:13:42.720 a guy who's in his own head. No one has 1:13:42.800 --> 1:13:48.439 denied that Justin Herbert is talented, But the fact that 1:13:49.120 --> 1:13:54.599 in consecutive years he has played his single worst game 1:13:54.720 --> 1:14:02.599 of the year in a horrible postseason loss is not nothing. 1:14:03.920 --> 1:14:11.120 The fact that no quarterback in NFL history has lost 1:14:11.280 --> 1:14:15.480 three playoff games in a row where their defense forces 1:14:15.720 --> 1:14:22.320 ten turnovers like Herbert has is not nothing. No quarterback 1:14:22.960 --> 1:14:27.920 in the last quarter century has lost three playoff games 1:14:27.920 --> 1:14:32.400 in a row where their defense forces more than five turnovers. 1:14:33.800 --> 1:14:38.360 Only one other quarterback, Chad Pennington, has lost three playoff 1:14:38.360 --> 1:14:41.200 games in a row where their defense forced more than 1:14:41.360 --> 1:14:44.920 four turnovers more than four turnovers in the last twenty 1:14:44.920 --> 1:14:50.160 five years, Herbert's defense has forced ten turnovers in all 1:14:50.240 --> 1:14:53.200 three of these games. His defense has put his team 1:14:54.360 --> 1:14:57.800 in the catbird seed early in these games, by a 1:14:57.840 --> 1:15:01.479 lot or by a little. Three of these games he 1:15:01.560 --> 1:15:06.000 has been somewhere from below average in the first one 1:15:06.400 --> 1:15:10.160 to god awful in the last two. That is what 1:15:10.240 --> 1:15:15.280 it is. And if six years into his career you're 1:15:15.360 --> 1:15:18.479 still holding on to what a pretty ball he throws 1:15:20.320 --> 1:15:28.600 against the Broncos in September, I don't know what to 1:15:28.680 --> 1:15:38.320 tell you for the Patriots moving forward. They should be 1:15:38.360 --> 1:15:42.479 able to handle Houston. As great as that Houston offense is. 1:15:43.120 --> 1:15:48.200 The Patriots in a really good position to either be 1:15:48.320 --> 1:15:53.240 going to Denver, who they're better than, or at home 1:15:53.280 --> 1:16:00.200 against Buffalo who they've beaten, and last, but not least 1:16:00.680 --> 1:16:06.240 Rams Panthers. Listen, this would have been a catastrophe for 1:16:06.280 --> 1:16:16.799 the Rams, a true how the hell did that happen? Lost? Instead, 1:16:16.840 --> 1:16:20.320 it was just an ugly, ugly win where Stafford was 1:16:20.360 --> 1:16:24.040 not that good and Puca saved the game with a 1:16:24.120 --> 1:16:29.160 super high IQ play breaking up the interception. I also 1:16:29.200 --> 1:16:31.240 had demons if I can pat myself on the back 1:16:31.600 --> 1:16:36.080 an all time impromptu line. Yesterday on the TV show 1:16:36.080 --> 1:16:36.760 did you see It? 1:16:38.960 --> 1:16:39.479 What was it? 1:16:39.960 --> 1:16:43.360 We showed Pooka saving the game breaking up would have 1:16:43.400 --> 1:16:44.720 been the game ceiling. 1:16:44.680 --> 1:16:46.400 Have something to do with the tackle that turned the 1:16:46.400 --> 1:16:47.080 tide or something. 1:16:47.160 --> 1:16:51.719 No, no, no no, I said, because it was such 1:16:51.720 --> 1:16:55.200 a heady play by Puca. And I said that Puoka 1:16:55.400 --> 1:16:58.639 uses up all his IQ points while on the field, 1:17:00.040 --> 1:17:03.200 and it's just once he leaves the once he leaves 1:17:03.280 --> 1:17:06.360 the game, he's just he's such a smart player, Like 1:17:07.000 --> 1:17:11.360 it's just it's the reserve is totally tapped. And the 1:17:11.720 --> 1:17:15.719 next six days he can't use any IQ points because 1:17:15.720 --> 1:17:18.000 he has to save him for the game. And then 1:17:18.000 --> 1:17:22.040 in the game, he's just unbelievable and he's making smart 1:17:22.080 --> 1:17:24.240 plays and he's one of the best receivers we've ever seen. 1:17:24.479 --> 1:17:26.760 And then the game ends and he's just like in 1:17:26.880 --> 1:17:35.240 rest mode and so but he saved the game. But 1:17:35.280 --> 1:17:39.680 here's thing, it's the playoffs. So it doesn't matter how 1:17:39.720 --> 1:17:42.840 it looks in a win. We know the Rams can 1:17:43.000 --> 1:17:48.000 be great offensively. We know they can be and now 1:17:48.000 --> 1:17:50.640 they get an opportunity to be great offensively against a 1:17:50.680 --> 1:17:55.439 bad Bears defense. And you know the Panthers, that was 1:17:55.479 --> 1:18:00.240 a valiant performance. They were. They hung way to uper 1:18:00.280 --> 1:18:03.000 than I thought they would. They had a real chances. 1:18:03.040 --> 1:18:05.160 Once man, we don't care how it might be something 1:18:05.200 --> 1:18:05.960 we might not know. 1:18:07.320 --> 1:18:10.400 I don't. I don't buy that. But it's a nice 1:18:10.400 --> 1:18:14.920 season for them. Yeah, this is like a cowardly way 1:18:14.920 --> 1:18:19.680 to do things. But right now, this moment, as we 1:18:19.720 --> 1:18:22.600 sit at the divisional round, because I had said I 1:18:22.640 --> 1:18:24.880 thought going into the playoffs, I said, I thought the 1:18:24.960 --> 1:18:27.080 Rams were going to the super Bowl, and there were 1:18:27.120 --> 1:18:29.200 my pick to win it. Once the you know, when 1:18:29.240 --> 1:18:31.640 the playoffs were set, and I said, I thought the 1:18:31.680 --> 1:18:33.800 winner of Bills Jags goes to the super Bowl. That 1:18:33.960 --> 1:18:36.160 is what I right now, that would be my pick 1:18:36.640 --> 1:18:40.519 Rams over Bills in the super Bowl. That's what I 1:18:40.600 --> 1:18:44.920 think we are going to get. And the Rams survive 1:18:44.960 --> 1:18:45.519 in advance. 1:18:46.640 --> 1:18:50.679 Uh so heartbreak for Josh coming up. 1:18:52.040 --> 1:18:54.400 Well, beginning to the super Bowl is a big deal. 1:18:54.840 --> 1:18:56.960 I mean that, yes, for the and for the Bills fans, 1:18:57.000 --> 1:19:01.080 that would be five super bowls and five super Bowl losses, 1:19:02.479 --> 1:19:04.680 and so that obviously wouldn't be great. All right, do 1:19:04.800 --> 1:19:07.679 me a favor. I appreciate everyone who's sent in questions today. 1:19:08.479 --> 1:19:10.519 We will add those to the questions we're gonna do 1:19:10.560 --> 1:19:13.200 on Thursday. We'll do more questions from the audience, and 1:19:13.280 --> 1:19:16.599 these on Thursday but I got a run, great show, 1:19:16.840 --> 1:19:19.920 great weekend to playoff football. We will see you guys 1:19:19.960 --> 1:19:23.679 back here on Thursday. A huge thanks to hard Rock 1:19:24.280 --> 1:19:27.040 bet to Boost to Blue Duck in the volume. Thank 1:19:27.080 --> 1:19:29.679 you to you. De Monsday, Say hi to your mom 1:19:29.720 --> 1:19:32.960 for me, who's out in LA. And I will see 1:19:33.000 --> 1:19:35.080 you guys on Thursday. I'll see you on with Colin 1:19:35.120 --> 1:19:36.240 in about an hour. What's right,