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Speaker 1: off inarguably the greatest wild card weekend in NFL history,

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Speaker 1: And we were listen Sunday night football Chargers Patriots was

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Speaker 1: fine but not great, and last night's game was a

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Speaker 1: following run of football games. Game two, seventy two of

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Speaker 1: Game one of the College Football Playoff All Miss Miami,

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Speaker 1: one of the best college football games in a decade.

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Speaker 1: Game two of College FOOTBA Playoffs Indiana Trunc's Oregon. Game

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Speaker 1: one of the NFL Playoffs, Panthers ten and a half

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Speaker 1: minute warning, Rams comeback. Game two an instant, all time

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Speaker 1: legacy writing classic between the Packers and the Bears. Packers

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Speaker 1: that game, Bears come back and win. Game three, Jags Bills,

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Speaker 1: the There are four different lead changes in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 1: Game four of the NFL Playoffs, Eagles Niners another comeback

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Speaker 1: in the final two minutes, including our long national nightmare

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Speaker 1: of the Eagles title reign finally ending. Listen, not everybody

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Speaker 1: can defend a championship. Not everybody can win the Super

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Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. The Chiefs did every single time

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Speaker 1: they won one. The Patriots did it a lot. That's

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Speaker 1: And if that sounds petty, and if I sound like

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Speaker 1: answer to all those things are yes, yes, and yes.

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Speaker 1: I've had Eagles fans harassing me in the streets for

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Speaker 1: eleven months of how is that Super bowlf? Worst year

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Speaker 1: It just is what it is.

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Speaker 2: How are you doing, Demanse, I'm doing great, Pops doing

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Speaker 2: pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing you know what? I do. Think this, and

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Speaker 1: then we'll get in. I want to start with Monday

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Speaker 1: Night football and into this. I do think that of

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Speaker 1: the nine best teams in the NFL this year, eight

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Speaker 1: it was Jacksonville. But Jacksonville over the course of the

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Speaker 1: games before we get to Rogers, before we get to

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Speaker 1: any of that. I already reminded you guys. This episode

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Speaker 1: NFL all Pro teams have been announced. Gives you a

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Speaker 1: pretty strong indicator that Matt Stafford's gonna win League MVP. Now,

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Speaker 1: an underrated small role in an all time movie, but

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Speaker 1: Interstellar Tomorrow before real quick Toman say if you' seen Interstellar.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I just think that maybe focus on something else,

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Speaker 1: talk Niners Eagles.

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Speaker 2: After a season of iffness, the Eagles were defeated by

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Speaker 2: the Niners, even with George Kittle getting an achilles injury.

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Speaker 2: Jan's got to get close of the year, but he's

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Speaker 2: just doing everything with nothing. You've been on this train

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Speaker 2: Philly is out of the postseason?

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Speaker 1: Listen, I don't have anything against the players on the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: to be clear. I find their coach wildly annoying, and

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Speaker 1: the fans that I have interacted with in person, some

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Speaker 1: adults I've met in ten years. So that's colored maybe

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Speaker 1: my feelings on the Eagles a bit, to be fair.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 1: With that said, I'm able to remove myself from those

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Speaker 1: feelings to analyze what I think is going to happen

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Speaker 1: right there informs what I want to happen, but the

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Speaker 1: games and the information inform what I think is going

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Speaker 1: to happen. And what I thought was gonna happen with

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Speaker 1: the Eagles in the playoffs was what happened with them

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Speaker 1: all year long, which is there impossibly inconsistent, wildly underachieving

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Speaker 1: offense would be that in the playoffs, and even against

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Speaker 1: a Niners defense that was starting three linebackers who were

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Speaker 1: not on the roster, two of them a month ago,

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Speaker 1: and all backups, that is exactly what that e team

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Speaker 1: ended up, being, a defense that could only do so much,

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Speaker 1: as great as it was, and an offense that killed

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Speaker 1: their season. You can't have a higher three and out

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Speaker 1: percentage than just about any team in the NFL in

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Speaker 1: a decade and flip a switch come to the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: You can't have fourteen of your thirty six halves this

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Speaker 1: year score seven points or less and just flip a

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Speaker 1: switch come the playoffs. And what has been consistent under

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Speaker 1: Sirianni's tenure in Philly is every year, even before Saquon,

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Speaker 1: they had a dominant running game with a quarterback that

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Speaker 1: was a huge part of it. They did not have

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Speaker 1: that this year, Saquon wasn't as dominant, the offensive line

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Speaker 1: wasn't as good, Jalen wouldn't run the way he would

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Speaker 1: in the past, and they became a more traditional Other

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Speaker 1: teams were able to defend them in a more traditional

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Speaker 1: fashion where we don't have to devote every single one

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Speaker 1: of our resources to stopping the run. We're gonna be

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Speaker 1: able to devote a little bit more to stopping the pass.

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Speaker 1: And they didn't have a consistent drop back passing offense

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Speaker 1: all year. And for me, this season is a far

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Speaker 1: bigger indictment on Siriani than it is on Jailen. Jalen

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Speaker 1: has earned, to me, far more benefit of the doubt

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Speaker 1: than Siriani. We also know, listen, this was not a

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Speaker 1: good game by Jalen Hurts. This was the There have

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Speaker 1: only been three He's lost four career playoff games, a

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Speaker 1: super Bowl and three in the wildcard round. The three

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Speaker 1: wildcard round losses were all three losses where he played poorly.

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Speaker 1: So this was only the third time he's ever they've

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Speaker 1: lost a playoff game, and one of the fair fingers

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Speaker 1: you can point is at him. With that said, that

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Speaker 1: happens and Jalen I thought was a steady hand for

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Speaker 1: this team, even though I thought his ability to read

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Speaker 1: the field and his ability to make passes to every

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Speaker 1: quadrant of the field or lack of ability tore hurt

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Speaker 1: them this year. But that that's a You'll deal with

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Speaker 1: that because he's such a good leader, he's so tough,

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Speaker 1: he's been so clutch historically, Like he's not listen. Is

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Speaker 1: he one of the five best quarterbacks in football? To me?

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Speaker 1: Pretty clearly not? Is he a guy you can win

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl with? Literally? Obviously? Yes? Has he upped

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Speaker 1: his level of play in the two biggest games he's

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Speaker 1: ever played in, Absolutely so you can deal with some

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Speaker 1: of that from jailing a bad game, missing a couple guys.

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Speaker 1: Sirianni's a different situation where there were three major jobs

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Speaker 1: for Nick Sirianni this year that presented themselves during the year.

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Speaker 1: The first one was as an offensive minded head coach,

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Speaker 1: how do we get our offense on track? He never

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Speaker 1: answered that bell. The second one was do I need

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Speaker 1: to make a mid season coordinator change as we've done

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Speaker 1: in the past, because Kevin Bittullo ain't ready for this

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Speaker 1: and isn't equipped for it. He chose not to, and

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Speaker 1: the third one was am I going to be able

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Speaker 1: to get my arms around whatever's going on with aj Brown?

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Speaker 1: And if not, do we need to cut bait with

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Speaker 1: him at the trade deadline? He was not able to

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Speaker 1: get his arms around it at any point all year,

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Speaker 1: and they didn't trade him. He did find time to

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Speaker 1: excuse me, he did find time to flip his shit

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Speaker 1: at Bill's fans for no reason whatsoever, and to generally

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Speaker 1: act in a way no other NFL head coach act.

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Speaker 1: But he didn't do a good job this year. And

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Speaker 1: we have seen this from Philadelphia before, so I will

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Speaker 1: say it again. Nick Sirianni enters next season with one

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Speaker 1: of the hottest seats in the NFL, like because so

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Speaker 1: many coaches got fired. It's hard to really like find

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Speaker 1: coaching hot seats because most of the guys on the

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Speaker 1: hot seat got fired already. But I would say next year,

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Speaker 1: just sitting here today, Aaron Glenn after that train wreck

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Speaker 1: of a season, Zach Taylor after three consecutive missed postseasons

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Speaker 1: with Joe Burrow, Shane Steichen after another Colt season where

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Speaker 1: ugh they were okay. Tomlin, well, I don't know the

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Speaker 1: Tomlin thing. That's the thing is I Tomlin, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure where that's going to go. Tomlin Lafloor.

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Speaker 1: Are they going to be there or not? Like those

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Speaker 1: are the two guys. Todd Bowles enters next season with

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Speaker 1: a warm seat, but I don't know if any of

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Speaker 1: those seats are hotter than Sirianni's next year.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, now, all those other coaches, this guy doesn't

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Speaker 2: even really get along with his players, So I think

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Speaker 2: those other guys don't have that that to them.

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Speaker 1: The most of those other the Packers would be the

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Speaker 1: exception to this. Most of those other teams also don't

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Speaker 1: have a front office that feels like, yeah, you have

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Speaker 1: a super Bowl caliber, great team. And here is the

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Speaker 1: other thing for Philly that void money time bomb is waiting.

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Speaker 1: And by that, here's what I mean. I'm gonna see

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Speaker 1: if I can find the tweet that the Eagles run

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Speaker 1: their cap in a way. Let me see if I

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Speaker 1: can find it no one else does. And if I

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Speaker 1: do find it, I'll send it to you guys. Maybe

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Speaker 1: we can get it on the show. Maybe not, but

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Speaker 1: if not, it's okay. The I should have pulled this

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Speaker 1: up before, and okay, here it is. I'm I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: text it to our group chat right now. This is

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Speaker 1: from Dan Rodgers. Uh, so credit to him for doing

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Speaker 1: the work here. Uh and sorry for doing this on

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Speaker 1: the fly, guys the Eagles that one of the reasons

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Speaker 1: the Eagles are able to have such a great roster

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Speaker 1: is because they borrow from future ye and oh you

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Speaker 1: know what, I gave Dan Rodgers credit. I really should

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Speaker 1: have given SF Data forty nine ers credit because they're

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Speaker 1: the ones who built the graphic initially. So the Eagles

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Speaker 1: have structured contracts to where and I don't think this

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Speaker 1: is necessarily dumb at all. But as I've talked about

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Speaker 1: ninety seconds of nerd cap stuff here, every single dollar

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Speaker 1: you pay any player on your roster at some point

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Speaker 1: shows up on your salary cap books as a salary

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Speaker 1: cap charge. The Eagles because their owner is willing to

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Speaker 1: pay a lot of cash up front, the Eagles borrow

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Speaker 1: from way down the line years by adding voidable us

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Speaker 1: on the end of contracts to stack the roster now,

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Speaker 1: because it's like, we've got a super Bowl caliber roster team, quarterback,

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Speaker 1: all of it. And then they take their medicine in

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Speaker 1: a couple of years, have a reset season, and then

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Speaker 1: you know, started started anew but they have done it

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Speaker 1: in a way that no team has ever and don't

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Speaker 1: put the tweet up yet no team has ever structured

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Speaker 1: it contracts quite like this. Like there's a half dozen

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Speaker 1: teams in the league that just don't do void years,

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Speaker 1: that have zero zero players on their salary cap with

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Speaker 1: voidable future years. And again, if I'm describing this, put

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Speaker 1: demonster on the screen the way to explain it, I

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Speaker 1: think is the best way. So, like, let me use

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Speaker 1: a league averag team. As far as void money in

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Speaker 1: the future, the Rams are dead in the middle, seventeenth

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Speaker 1: out of thirty two teams and most money on void years.

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Speaker 1: They have forty seven million in future salary cap charges

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Speaker 1: that are gonna hit their books in future years for

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Speaker 1: money they have played. They have paid players that are

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Speaker 1: on their current roster who won't be on the roster

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Speaker 1: those years, do you understand, So they have borrowed forty

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Speaker 1: seven million dollars from future RAMS teams for the right exactly.

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Speaker 1: So now the cap will go up, and so they'll

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Speaker 1: you know, and they probably think and in a few

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Speaker 1: years we won't have a super expensive quarterback. It'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: So the Rams are league average at forty seven million.

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Speaker 1: Now throw up the tweet. The Eagles are at four

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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty two million dollars borrowed from future cap years,

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Speaker 1: including two hundred and forty nine million dollars as it's

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Speaker 1: currently written, borrowed from the twenty twenty eight Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 1: So Noah. The only other team in the league that's

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Speaker 1: above two hundred million is the Browns, and more than

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Speaker 1: half of that is the disasters to Sean Watson contract.

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Speaker 1: The The Broncos are in fifth. They did it to

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Speaker 1: deal with in part, the Russell Wilson of dead money,

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Speaker 1: you know, so the dead money that the Lions, you know,

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Speaker 1: have borrowed from well down the road a bit because

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Speaker 1: they feel like, basically the Lions philosophy, I think, is

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Speaker 1: be as awesome as we can be right now, and

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Speaker 1: then by the time this void money hits golf will

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Speaker 1: be off the books.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The Eagles have a contractual bomb ticking in the form

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Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty eight season is when the chickens

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Speaker 1: come home to roost and you retool, which makes the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty sixth season all the more valuable to them.

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Speaker 1: And it also is why when people talk about them

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Speaker 1: trading AJ Brown. It's really not that simple so AJ Brown,

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Speaker 1: because they've structured his contract, and with aj they have

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Speaker 1: all those void years as well. If they wanted to

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Speaker 1: cut him, demonse right now for next season. AJ Brown's

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Speaker 1: cap hit is a super manageable, super cheap twenty three

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Speaker 1: million dollars. But if they were to cut him, his

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Speaker 1: cap hit to not play for them is seventy two

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Speaker 1: million dollars because all that other money gets accelerated. If

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Speaker 1: they trade him, his cap hit becomes forty three million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Now you can split that up into the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: six and twenty twenty seven year. We don't have to

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Speaker 1: spend as much time on this as I'm doing right now.

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Speaker 1: My point is this the Eagles have because they have

648
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Speaker 1: an aggressive owner who's willing to spend money. They have

649
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Speaker 1: an aggressive GM, they have put and they won a

650
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Speaker 1: damn Super Bowl like they went to Souper Bowl two

651
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Speaker 1: years ago or three years ago. They won it last year.

652
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Speaker 1: This philosophy objectively has worked and has been smart, but

653
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Speaker 1: it makes this type of season failing all the more painful,

654
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Speaker 1: and it makes.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna be trash in a few years.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't think money listen. I think that they

657
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Speaker 1: will have much like they had after their last super

658
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Speaker 1: Bowl win. A couple of years later, they had a

659
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Speaker 1: super down year and then immediately got back. So I

660
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Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna be It's not like the Saints.

661
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: You're like just off in the wilderness four years, but

662
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Speaker 1: you're going to reset the roster in a couple of years.

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Speaker 1: So having it's a really weird trend they've been on

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Speaker 1: of the last five years. Bounced in round one, make

665
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Speaker 1: a super Bowl, bounced in round one, win the super Bowl,

666
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: bounced in round one. Now you win another super Bowl,

667
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Speaker 1: make another super Bowl. Feels great. If next year goes poorly,

668
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Speaker 1: I think a ton of changes come to Philly. So

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Speaker 1: that's my Eagles, you know, stance on it. And I

670
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: just think Sirianni's got to grow up a bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I also think that the thing for Jalen is

673
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: because the film is never gonna be super impressive. The

674
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Speaker 1: thing about your your rep being I'm just a winner,

675
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: you gotta win, and them getting bouncing around one in

676
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Speaker 1: a home playoff game and him playing poorly, it's not,

677
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Speaker 1: you know, cataclysmic, but it dings him a bit. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's talk Niners for a second.

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Speaker 2: So we know the forty nine ers guys have been

680
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Speaker 2: dropping throughout the year and they just lost.

681
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that power plant. Have you following that story?

682
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Speaker 3: Well, what's going on with the power plant?

683
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Speaker 1: The I don't know is probably I probably sound like

684
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Speaker 1: an idiot, but there is some like energy way station

685
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 1: or something that's next to the Niners practice facility in stadium.

686
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: And this guy who wrote a book called Sunlight His

687
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: Life went out there with a gossometer and check checked

688
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: like the energy waves. And basically he's telling us the

689
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Speaker 1: Niners players, ligaments, tendons, all that shit are yes, exactly

690
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: getting Chernobyl. And that's why for a decade they've been

691
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Speaker 1: the most injured team. I'm saying I can't say the theory,

692
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Speaker 1: but I'm not saying I don't believe it. They have

693
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Speaker 1: been so injured every year for a decade and there's

694
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Speaker 1: been no explanation. This guy thinks he figured it out.

695
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Speaker 1: I can't rule it out, but go ahead.

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, Kittle just tore his achilles.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe in this team still or is this

698
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 2: just too many injuries for them to still keep winning.

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Speaker 1: I mean it. We just saw him play the Seahawks

700
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Speaker 1: and that game was close. They were in it. Like

701
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: that game turned, didn't that game turn on a Brock

702
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Speaker 1: interception late? And I'm gonna give Brock some credit here

703
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Speaker 1: in a minute, but like I let me let me

704
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Speaker 1: check this. I feel like that's how I remember it. Yeah,

705
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Speaker 1: I mean threw that game was third. I guess turned

706
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: is maybe unfair, but that game was thirteen to three Niners,

707
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Speaker 1: and yeah, that's the man threw I'm sorry, thirteen to

708
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: three Seahawks. I misspoke. Thirteen to three Seahawks and the

709
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: Niners in the early fourth quarter have a second in

710
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: goal from the six to make it thirteen to ten,

711
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: and that was the past he threw to McCaffrey. McCaffrey

712
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: bobbled it and the Seahawks guy took it and that

713
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 1: basically ended it. Point is they were in that game

714
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Speaker 1: kind of their The Niners defense did a good job

715
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: against Darnold in the game for the one seed last

716
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Speaker 1: Sunday night or the last Saturday night two Saturdays ago,

717
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: so it feels like ruling them out would be disrespectful.

718
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: But Seattle's on two weeks is on a week arrest.

719
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Speaker 1: The Niners are on a short week. The Niners are

720
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: keeping it together with Scotch tape.

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Speaker 2: I will listen to the Seahawks too. They have their

722
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 2: most of their team. This is understandable. They're playing with

723
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Speaker 2: guys that weren't even playing this year, and.

724
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Speaker 1: It would take a Darnald catastrophe, I think for the

725
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Speaker 1: Seahawks to win that game. But none of that should

726
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Speaker 1: take anything away from what I think is an all

727
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:55,240
Speaker 1: time great coaching job by Kyle Shanahan. Just an all

728
00:53:55,440 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: time coaching job by Shanahan this year. And I know

729
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: he turned the ball over, I know he made some mistakes.

730
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: I thought perty had a hell of a gutsy performance

731
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: against an excellent Eagles defense. Like I'll give Party credit now.

732
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: Was the nicest pass thrown all day by a Niner

733
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:20,479
Speaker 1: thrown by their wide receiver. Yes, but I still will

734
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Speaker 1: give Party credit for what I thought was a really

735
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: impressive and another nice come from behind playoff victory like

736
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 1: that was, And the play to McCaffrey was great and

737
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Speaker 1: so but I think this is the end of the road.

738
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: I also think that is a hell of an impressive

739
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: season for the Niners in that division, and with those injuries,

740
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:50,240
Speaker 1: all right, we maybe could have led with this. Let's

741
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: talk about the game of the weekend.

742
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 2: Your boy Caleb pulled off the upset. Where are we

743
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 2: calling this an upset? Were they favored in that game?

744
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 3: Flipped?

745
00:54:58,280 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 1: It went back and forth?

746
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 2: Yes, so he pulled he pulled off the comeback. I

747
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 2: think they won a game where that he didn't lead

748
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 2: in an offensive snap. Is this you put you put

749
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 2: you waved him earlier in the year. Is this where

750
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 2: you imagined him last year when you said that they

751
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Speaker 2: were going to win the Super Bowl?

752
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't say they're gonna win the super Bowl.

753
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: Make the super Bowl? Sorry and listen. Yeah, I thought

754
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Speaker 1: Caleb at the beginning of this year was shaky because

755
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: he was and he has been shaky in the first

756
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,479
Speaker 1: half of all three of these Packer games. They played

757
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: the Packers three times de Monsey, they beat him twice.

758
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: They had the ball with the lead, zero snaps. Yeah,

759
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: in the whole, in the whole, in all three games. Right,

760
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,919
Speaker 1: the Packers had one hundred and six snaps with the lead,

761
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: the Bears had zero, and the Bears won two of them.

762
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 3: Resiliency.

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Speaker 1: But the reason that so there's I mean, there's two

764
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: angles here. There's the Packers absolutely blowing it even though

765
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: Jordan Love your guy was awesome, and just find like

766
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: I've never seen a team the Packers had the ball

767
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: seven times after going up twenty one to three and

768
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: scored a touchdown and never turned it over and the

769
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: Bears got uh did turn it over and the Bears

770
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: came back. Anyway, like when the when the Jags came

771
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 1: back against the Chargers four years ago, the Jags every

772
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: single time they had the ball to score a touchdown,

773
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: the Bears are kicking field goals, they're getting stopped on

774
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:45,760
Speaker 1: fourth down, and they still came back. That's a catastrophe

775
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 1: of a loss.

776
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Speaker 3: Ben Johnson thing, Yes, it's in Johnson.

777
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: What direction well in a good way.

778
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Speaker 2: Like I just feel like if he's able to do

779
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 2: that type of stuff even after.

780
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: The ball goals, I mean, that's what's interesting. He also

781
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 1: had what I thought was a bizarre fourth down decision

782
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: early in the game when they went for it on

783
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: like fourth and four on their own thirty two, Like

784
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: I didn't know what they were doing. He seemed like

785
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: he was on tilt. But they came back, and yes,

786
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: he gets a lot of credit for the play design

787
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: on coming back. But the story of that game and

788
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 1: why that game will be remembered is it was Caleb

789
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 1: Williams on full display that there are things he can

790
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: do that only two other guys in the league, Mahomes

791
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: and Josh can do. That throw he made on fourth

792
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: and eight down eleven season, on the line, gliding to

793
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: his left without his feet set, with three defenders around

794
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: the guy he's throwing to. I say this without hyperbole.

795
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: It's one of the five best catches, one of the

796
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: five best throws when you consider the degree of difficulty,

797
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: the context and the stakes in the last decade in

798
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: the NFL, and the the things he can do cannot

799
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: be taught. So you just hope he gets better at

800
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: the things that are easily taught. But the Bears that

801
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: teams this year not named the Chicago Bears demanse when

802
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: trailing by double digits in the final five minutes are

803
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: three and one fifty nine. The Bears are three and three.

804
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: It is these comebacks that they've had. It's not down

805
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: four goes, get a drive, it's down two scores late,

806
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: and they just do it again and again. Now that's

807
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: a not year over year, Well, the Chiefs weren't down big.

808
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: They just winning the close games.

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00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

810
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Speaker 1: And but to your point about the Chiefs, that's that's

811
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: not year over year sustainable, but it might be sustainable

812
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 1: next week. It does mean that they are the only

813
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: team in these playoffs that if they're down ten entering

814
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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter feels fine.

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Speaker 3: Right.

816
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:43,919
Speaker 1: And I if Matt Stafford retires, and I don't think

817
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: he will, but just let's say they win the Super

818
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: Bowl and he's like, all right, I'm done for me.

819
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: Kalabile inter next year. The best quarterback in the NFC

820
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: as good as Jordan Love was yesterday. I like Caleb Moore.

821
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Speaker 1: I think he is. I'd take him over Golf. I'd

822
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Speaker 1: take him over anyone in the NFC East, take him

823
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Speaker 1: over anyone in the NFC South. I is Stafford's the best,

824
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: but he he is that guy and for all you know,

825
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 1: whatever people want to say about his personality or his emotion,

826
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Speaker 1: how emotional he is, and you can see the emotion

827
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Speaker 1: for good or for bad during the game. His teammates

828
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Speaker 1: have rallied around him, and his coach loves him, and

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Speaker 1: I I think Caleb Stafford next week is the game

830
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Speaker 1: of the divisional round weekend on the Green Bay side

831
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Speaker 1: of things. Quickly before we get to Bill's Jaggs demonse,

832
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: this team was nine to three and one, and then

833
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: Micah Parsons got hurt and they never one again. Two

834
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Speaker 1: teams this year anticipated they were gonna have Micah Parsons,

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Speaker 1: and when they didn't have him, their season just fell apart.

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Speaker 1: And it's now The Packers should have won that game anyway,

837
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: but their championship hopes ended when Micah went down. You

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Speaker 1: Unlimited plan. All right, let's talk Bill's Jacks.

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Speaker 2: All right, probably game of the week. Trevor ended up

852
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 2: losing this game, and I'm a sure guy the Bills won. Yeah,

853
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 2: you called that one. You said earlier in the show

854
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 2: that the winner of this game was going to the

855
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Speaker 2: super Bowl. After seeing that game and how it played out,

856
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 2: is that's still how you feel.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, the Bills are a flawed team. They're

858
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 1: not as bad as some people make them out to be.

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Speaker 1: They have a great offensive line, they have a great

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Speaker 1: running back, they have a good pass defense, they don't

861
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 1: have good receivers, and they don't have a good run defense.

862
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 1: But they also have the second best quarterback of his

863
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: generation and the best quarterback in these playoffs with respect

864
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: to Stafford and Josh is on an all time playoff heater.

865
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 1: Since Josh Allen Demons lost to the Bengals in the

866
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 1: Divisional round three years ago, he's played six playoff games.

867
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: Now he's lost two of them to mahone. But in

868
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: those six playoff games, he has sixteen touchdowns, no turnovers,

869
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: and a one oh five rating. And this is why

870
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: some folks thought they were defending Josh Allen by giving

871
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 1: pre writing excuses for how the Bills were gonna lose

872
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: and explaining how it was unfair to ask Josh Allen

873
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 1: to win a road wild card game against the Jags,

874
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 1: and that's disrespect. What doing that does is it lowers

875
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: the stakes. And if you lower the stakes, then when

876
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 1: you come through, it's less impactful, it's less resonant. It

877
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 1: was important that Josh Allen find a way to win

878
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 1: that game. It was important after in twenty twenty three

879
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: he had the ball in his hands down less than

880
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: a touchdown in the fourth quarter of the Divisional round

881
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 1: against the Chiefs and didn't come through. And then in

882
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four had the ball in his hands down

883
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: less than a touchdown in the conference championship game against

884
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and didn't come through that. This year, he

885
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 1: had the ball in his hands in the fourth quarter

886
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: down less than a touchdown against the Jags, and he

887
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: made one of the best plays of his life, that

888
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 1: forty yard throw down the field to Brandon Cooks to

889
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 1: then set up the game winning touchdown. That's how you

890
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 1: write your legend. And if the Bills now have an

891
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 1: opportunity to go into Denver and keep in mind Josh

892
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: Allen played college football in Wyoming, which is at a

893
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 1: higher elevation than Denver, so he's used to it. He

894
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 1: goes in there against that defense and does it again.

895
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: It then gets to be a game away from finally

896
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: reaching a super Bowl and knowing he's not gonna have

897
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 1: to deal with Mahomes to get there. He was great.

898
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 1: He was great. Now do people go a little over

899
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: to you know, Collins calling him the greatest I think

900
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 1: the greatest quarterback he's ever seen. Is that too much

901
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 1: for me? Sure? But he's great. He is a future

902
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. He is at his peak of his powers.

903
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: He's banged up, it doesn't matter. He's finding a way.

904
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 1: That's how you become a legend. I hate that it

905
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: came at the expense of my guy, Trevor. Trevor in

906
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 1: that game, Demanse third quarterback ever to in the fourth

907
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 1: quarter of a playoff game, have two go ahead touchdowns

908
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 1: and lose the game Drew Brees in twenty eleven. It

909
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 1: happened to Josh in the third seconds game and Trevor

910
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 1: in that game. Now, Trevor made a huge mistake. At

911
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 1: the end of that game, you're down three of a

912
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 1: minute left, you have the strongest leaid kicker in the league.

913
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 1: You don't need to force it, and he forced it.

914
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 1: And the reason they were in that position was because,

915
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 1: in my opinion, the Bills made a huge mistake by

916
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 1: scoring when they did. There's a minute five left, the

917
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 1: Jags have no timeouts. You're on the one. You can

918
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: do a fake quarterback sneak. Essentially you don't have to go,

919
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:37,919
Speaker 1: but you don't have to kneel and lose a bunch

920
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 1: of yards. But the optimals thing for the Bills to

921
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 1: do in that spot would have been snap the ball

922
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 1: to Josh, have Josh fall down right where he gets

923
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 1: it a little bit forward. The Jags aren't gonna hitch

924
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 1: you because they want you to score. And then you

925
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 1: have three timeouts. There's a minute five left, the Jags

926
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 1: have zero. You can it's a very simple math equation there.

927
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 1: What scares you more if your goal is to win

928
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: the game only having three chances to get one yard

929
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 1: and the Jags being left with less than twenty seconds,

930
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 1: or having four chances to get one yard and the

931
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 1: Jags being left potentially with a minute. The Bills and

932
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott chose the latter. They obviously should have chosen

933
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 1: the former. The optimal decision there is what Vrabel did

934
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 1: at the end of a first half earlier this year.

935
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 1: Have your guy go down, let the clock run all

936
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 1: the way to twenty seconds, call your first time out,

937
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 1: and then you have three shots if you need it

938
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 1: to score and leave the Jags with no time. The

939
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 1: Jags were thrilled the Bills scored when they did, but

940
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: then Trevor made the big mistake. And if Trevor had

941
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 1: come through, if Trevor had driven the length of the

942
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 1: field in that final minute and the Jags scored a touchdown,

943
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 1: I promise you I wouldn't be on TV or on

944
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 1: here killing Josh Allen. You gotta win that game. He

945
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 1: was great. That would have been a junior varsity version

946
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 1: of the thirteen seconds game when no one has ever

947
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 1: criticized him for that game. So it's not that it's

948
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:38,640
Speaker 1: binary win or lose, but it is how did you

949
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 1: play and did you put your team in position? And

950
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 1: Josh was brilliant. Josh was absolutely brilliant. Did you want

951
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 1: to say something to Monsey.

952
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he was solid And it kind of reminded

953
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 2: me when when they got the ball after the picker

954
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 2: just in the late games. I just kind of felt

955
01:08:58,000 --> 01:08:59,759
Speaker 2: late in the game, I just felt like the Bills

956
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 2: was their destiny.

957
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 3: And I knew that Josh Allen was kind of gonna

958
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 3: do whatever.

959
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: You're felt like, yes, if you had that confidence that

960
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 1: he's going to make this happen. Yeah, and that's the

961
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 1: last step of greatness.

962
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. This is like a very very sidebar the Jags.

963
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 2: The Jags reporter that you know telling hype and Liam

964
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 2: calling up, you know, saying you'll get him next year.

965
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 2: That was crazy, Like that was because I feel like

966
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 2: there's a lot of outrage for it, and.

967
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 1: I just what do you think of the outrage.

968
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 2: I think I think that it's for something else, Like

969
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 2: I think that I don't know, I think.

970
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 3: That it's crazy.

971
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 2: Like I think that there's like those press conferences are

972
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 2: there for you know, reporters. I don't want to say

973
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 2: poke fun at coaches, but just kind of make their

974
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 2: life a little bit more difficult and explain themselves. And

975
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 2: I feel like most of the time it's in I

976
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 2: wouldn't call it condescending or derogatory, but it's more negative

977
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 2: than it is positive. And this one time somebody trying

978
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 2: to make it positive. It people are pissed about it.

979
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 1: The number of people that publicly whined about this old

980
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 1: black lady trying to make Liam Cohen feel better. There

981
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 1: as so much in this Let me tell you something,

982
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 1: You know what feels great no matter how down you are,

983
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 1: having an old, nice black woman tell you pick yourself up.

984
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 3: I'm just not get it.

985
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 1: Yes, And and that woman's been part of the press

986
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 1: for decades and now would it be a problem if

987
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: that's what the entirety of the press conference was.

988
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 2: Or if it was like a regular season, like if

989
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 2: it were like games but they're out of the playoffs,

990
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 2: like it's done.

991
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 1: Everybody's Some of the media is so self serious. It

992
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 1: was thirty seconds, doesn't matter. It also gave me an

993
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 1: idea for this week's sports media on Budsman on the

994
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 1: TV show. I'll share it with you guys right now,

995
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 1: a little sneak preview because I loved it. I think

996
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 1: every NFL team's postgame press conference for the coaches needs

997
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 1: to have two designated chairs and they each get one question. Okay,

998
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 1: and one chair is and you call it the homer

999
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 1: and the hater, and the coach has to answer a

1000
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 1: question the homer gets to say whatever they want it,

1001
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:44,640
Speaker 1: pick them up, and the hater gets to just absolutely

1002
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 1: even if wins or losses, rip them the And so

1003
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 1: the homer and the hater, the coach can decide he

1004
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 1: has to start with one and end with the other,

1005
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 1: and he can decide how he wants to do it.

1006
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: And in the middle of everybody else's questions. Uh, but

1007
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 1: I and here's the other thing. Just to my media colleagues,

1008
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 1: you're allowed to have an opinion on that, lady, and

1009
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 1: keep it to yourself or keep it to your group chat.

1010
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 1: You don't have to tweet about it. You really really don't.

1011
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 1: All right, we've gone so long, we haven't even gotten

1012
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 1: to two of the games, So let me just try

1013
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 1: to quickly get to these other two Patch Chargers. Listen,

1014
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 1: Drake May was shaky early and then was very good late.

1015
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 1: It was a pretty typical first playoff game. You saw

1016
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 1: some jitters, but he's so talented that he came through

1017
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 1: and the Patriots defense was awesome. I'm not I spent

1018
01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 1: enough on this yesterday on TV arguing with Danny, and

1019
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 1: at this point it just the facts are what the

1020
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 1: facts are. Justin Herbert's played ten consecutive f minus quarters

1021
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 1: of playoff football, Justin Herbert has the second lowest career

1022
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:24,839
Speaker 1: playoff passer rate, ahead of only Andy Dalton. Justin Herbert,

1023
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 1: now that the all twenty two guys have gotten a

1024
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 1: hold of that film, had guys open the first three

1025
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:35,679
Speaker 1: quarters of that game a lot and wouldn't pull the trigger.

1026
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert's comments after the game make it sound like

1027
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:42,720
Speaker 1: a guy who's in his own head. No one has

1028
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 1: denied that Justin Herbert is talented, But the fact that

1029
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 1: in consecutive years he has played his single worst game

1030
01:13:54,720 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 1: of the year in a horrible postseason loss is not nothing.

1031
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 1: The fact that no quarterback in NFL history has lost

1032
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:15,480
Speaker 1: three playoff games in a row where their defense forces

1033
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 1: ten turnovers like Herbert has is not nothing. No quarterback

1034
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 1: in the last quarter century has lost three playoff games

1035
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 1: in a row where their defense forces more than five turnovers.

1036
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 1: Only one other quarterback, Chad Pennington, has lost three playoff

1037
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 1: games in a row where their defense forced more than

1038
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 1: four turnovers more than four turnovers in the last twenty

1039
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 1: five years, Herbert's defense has forced ten turnovers in all

1040
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 1: three of these games. His defense has put his team

1041
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 1: in the catbird seed early in these games, by a

1042
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 1: lot or by a little. Three of these games he

1043
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 1: has been somewhere from below average in the first one

1044
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 1: to god awful in the last two. That is what

1045
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 1: it is. And if six years into his career you're

1046
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 1: still holding on to what a pretty ball he throws

1047
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:28,600
Speaker 1: against the Broncos in September, I don't know what to

1048
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 1: tell you for the Patriots moving forward. They should be

1049
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 1: able to handle Houston. As great as that Houston offense is.

1050
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 1: The Patriots in a really good position to either be

1051
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 1: going to Denver, who they're better than, or at home

1052
01:15:53,280 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 1: against Buffalo who they've beaten, and last, but not least

1053
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 1: Rams Panthers. Listen, this would have been a catastrophe for

1054
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:16,799
Speaker 1: the Rams, a true how the hell did that happen? Lost? Instead,

1055
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 1: it was just an ugly, ugly win where Stafford was

1056
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 1: not that good and Puca saved the game with a

1057
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 1: super high IQ play breaking up the interception. I also

1058
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 1: had demons if I can pat myself on the back

1059
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 1: an all time impromptu line. Yesterday on the TV show

1060
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 1: did you see It?

1061
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 3: What was it?

1062
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 1: We showed Pooka saving the game breaking up would have

1063
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 1: been the game ceiling.

1064
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 3: Have something to do with the tackle that turned the

1065
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 3: tide or something.

1066
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:51,719
Speaker 1: No, no, no no, I said, because it was such

1067
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 1: a heady play by Puca. And I said that Puoka

1068
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 1: uses up all his IQ points while on the field,

1069
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 1: and it's just once he leaves the once he leaves

1070
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 1: the game, he's just he's such a smart player, Like

1071
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 1: it's just it's the reserve is totally tapped. And the

1072
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:15,719
Speaker 1: next six days he can't use any IQ points because

1073
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 1: he has to save him for the game. And then

1074
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 1: in the game, he's just unbelievable and he's making smart

1075
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Speaker 1: plays and he's one of the best receivers we've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: And then the game ends and he's just like in

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Speaker 1: rest mode and so but he saved the game. But

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Speaker 1: here's thing, it's the playoffs. So it doesn't matter how

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Speaker 1: it looks in a win. We know the Rams can

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Speaker 1: be great offensively. We know they can be and now

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01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,640
Speaker 1: they get an opportunity to be great offensively against a

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01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 1: bad Bears defense. And you know the Panthers, that was

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01:17:55,479 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 1: a valiant performance. They were. They hung way to uper

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Speaker 1: than I thought they would. They had a real chances.

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Speaker 3: Once man, we don't care how it might be something

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Speaker 3: we might not know.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't buy that. But it's a nice

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Speaker 1: season for them. Yeah, this is like a cowardly way

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Speaker 1: to do things. But right now, this moment, as we

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Speaker 1: sit at the divisional round, because I had said I

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01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 1: thought going into the playoffs, I said, I thought the

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01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 1: Rams were going to the super Bowl, and there were

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01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 1: my pick to win it. Once the you know, when

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Speaker 1: the playoffs were set, and I said, I thought the

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Speaker 1: winner of Bills Jags goes to the super Bowl. That

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01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 1: is what I right now, that would be my pick

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01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 1: Rams over Bills in the super Bowl. That's what I

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Speaker 1: think we are going to get. And the Rams survive

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Speaker 1: in advance.

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Speaker 3: Uh so heartbreak for Josh coming up.

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Speaker 1: Well, beginning to the super Bowl is a big deal.

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Speaker 1: I mean that, yes, for the and for the Bills fans,

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Speaker 1: that would be five super bowls and five super Bowl losses,

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Speaker 1: and so that obviously wouldn't be great. All right, do

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Speaker 1: me a favor. I appreciate everyone who's sent in questions today.

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Speaker 1: We will add those to the questions we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: on Thursday. We'll do more questions from the audience, and

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Speaker 1: these on Thursday but I got a run, great show,

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Speaker 1: great weekend to playoff football. We will see you guys

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Speaker 1: back here on Thursday. A huge thanks to hard Rock

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Speaker 1: bet to Boost to Blue Duck in the volume. Thank

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Speaker 1: you to you. De Monsday, Say hi to your mom

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Speaker 1: for me, who's out in LA. And I will see

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Speaker 1: you guys on Thursday. I'll see you on with Colin

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Speaker 1: in about an hour. What's right,