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Speaker 2: Yeah, see the bus down chained to h.

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Speaker 3: Took that Nazi chain and made a bust. But doing it,

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Speaker 3: they move in the tunnels, they move where you can't

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Speaker 3: see them. They an invisible hand, and they'll get like, well,

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Speaker 3: they'll do it. They'll threaten people. Uh, they'll threaten people

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Speaker 3: all we're gonna take your tours away, We're gonna drop

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Speaker 4: I know, the snapped their fingers one day and he

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Speaker 3: Them Jewish people come the record people come, they're say

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Speaker 3: on some mob shit.

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Speaker 4: The rhetoric running your game. Yeah, he literally running your games.

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Speaker 4: Shid on chart. How did you feel when he said that?

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Speaker 4: Is that a co signed or yes?

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Speaker 5: Well I'm saying uh, I'm saying we're both playing on

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Speaker 3: Again off of a statement, off of me wearing a

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Speaker 3: motherfucking chain, off of me wearing their pain. But they playing,

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Speaker 3: turning up, promoting and making money.

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Speaker 2: Off of our pain.

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Speaker 3: But if I wear a piece of their pain, then

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Speaker 3: they're gonna threaten to destroy everything moving everyone around it,

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Speaker 4: But again, he's he's he's flying so close to the sun.

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Speaker 1: If he had all if you had all those deals,

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Speaker 1: all that influence, would you do the same thing that

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Speaker 4: Jenner Road used to be riding hill with stay doubt.

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Speaker 4: Jenny Road wasn't gonna be who he was. They thought

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Speaker 4: he was gonna be the fan white boy they keep

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Speaker 4: kicking in as he stopped playing, he stopped playing. Mistakes

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Speaker 4: and power for other people mine even you haven't been

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Speaker 4: named it.

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Speaker 1: Listen, what they named is album Gambling on the White

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Speaker 1: I quit you. I'm gonna fix that, Umar daa stay

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Speaker 1: and I thank y'all together, gonna be could be a

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Speaker 2: And I know, I'm proudly I can fix it. You

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. That's my guy. I know I

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Speaker 2: can fix it. You know what I'm saying. I know

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Speaker 1: I just gotta I gotta guarantee him that you ain't gonna.

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Speaker 4: When I look at doctor Umar Johnson, he talked good

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Speaker 4: with work?

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Speaker 2: Is he working with kids.

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Speaker 1: At I don't believe I need to be on a

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Speaker 1: podcast with someone who has disrespected hour deceased.

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Speaker 4: I got evidence of week. Work is other than just talking.

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Speaker 2: The missions are not the same. The work is clearly.

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Speaker 4: Not the same.

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Speaker 1: Two scholars, two thinkers in there, and let's get two it.

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Speaker 4: That's why again I'm gonna fix you. And Umar, that's

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Speaker 4: the fee who will take me to barbershot? What happened

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Speaker 4: with that?

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Speaker 1: I beat that ship the police was in only that's

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Speaker 1: how I got charged. Like, don't get me, but nobody

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Speaker 4: But it's but you said as well known, it's documented.

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Speaker 1: Say that they wouldn't have let Whack one hundred in

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Speaker 1: Man, they know the those that know know, Yeah, they know.

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Speaker 1: The Feds in now, Yeah, now we know they.

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Speaker 4: Look, he said, the Fed came and got me and

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Speaker 5: Good you figure out who it is. But fed and

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Speaker 5: They don't infiltrate. They don't send nobody.

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Speaker 5: Walking in cowboy boots playing on Melvin from the Internet

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Speaker 5: Speaking Game. That's how I met Melvin Farmer from the

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Speaker 5: engagement with John Gotti Jr. Uh Or what's the tone

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Speaker 5: So uh they wanted to pull me in because I

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Speaker 5: As I wore for my voice towards white people. Uh Man,

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Speaker 4: They look at you a certain way.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'm a threat to them. And I got

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Speaker 1: Dangers might impress a button and it started activating around this.

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Speaker 5: Yeah so so home and so so. But because I

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Speaker 5: had worked with government officials Homie uh ted crew John

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Speaker 5: But because I had worked with with with these people,

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Speaker 4: Because because I'm because of.

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Speaker 1: The plus, I'm with the old I'm with the old ops.

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Speaker 1: The old pop name got a history with white folks.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 5: And they don't fight number of police. One of them

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Speaker 5: So when you hear me say certain names old an

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Speaker 5: And those men mentored me so uh.

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Speaker 5: Yeah so so so so so when so when they

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Speaker 5: Uh So they kept for like some day, what was

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, so so I met my homeboy pot had

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Speaker 5: keep getting the charges. That's my local police department getting

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Speaker 5: I met, I met with her, I met with her

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Speaker 4: So I'm I'm in the community, working.

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Speaker 5: With kids with a with a sincere heart and the

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Speaker 4: Step out. You can't step in the studio in college

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, So so I'm really sincerely trying to help

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Speaker 5: people who's saying, you want to be a self sustained

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Speaker 5: You want to be self sustained. You got that from

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Speaker 5: You don't be a beggar. The nonprofit is good, but

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Speaker 5: your constituents, your community. Why would anybody give you anything?

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Speaker 7: And that's why Black people can't get nothing, because their

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Speaker 5: Uh So, I met with Gena Bivins, who was our

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Speaker 5: city council of District five. She said, Charleston, all the

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Speaker 5: that's in every black community. All the funding that you

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Speaker 5: your boys and girls club, r your your your mentoring program,

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Speaker 5: all of that funding come from the police department.

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Speaker 4: Y'all down, Why have got the pal league and.

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Speaker 1: There you go because it don't come from the police department.

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Speaker 1: It comes by the way of public safety funding. Well,

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Speaker 1: why is our funding coming from public safety? High crime areas? Games, Yes,

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Speaker 1: so we have to have the funding.

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Speaker 4: So so we're.

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Speaker 5: Gonna give your police department seven hundred million dollars for

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Speaker 5: one year.

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Speaker 4: Now there's seven hundred million. Four hundred million is THEIRS.

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Speaker 5: Three hundred million is the communities. But if you don't

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Speaker 5: Samet they money. This is your money for your kids swimming.

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Speaker 5: It's coming through public safety. Public safety that goes for

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Speaker 5: parks and recreation. That's why you can't use the park, nigga.

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Speaker 5: That's so that's parks and recreation. That's your swimming pool.

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Speaker 5: So if you need all that, that's over there. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: we got something that's allocated for infrastructure.

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Speaker 4: But what y'all need is over there gang intervention.

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Speaker 1: Gang prevention, so it's not just to lock up those

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Speaker 1: are your intervention.

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Speaker 5: We got plenty of money to prevent this. But if

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Speaker 5: y'all don't it up man with the police, then guess

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Speaker 5: who get the money. Your preachers, Because your preachers with

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Speaker 5: the police. That's why every time it's a police shooting.

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Speaker 4: Something happen.

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Speaker 1: They go get the PREMI go get reverend, Reverend getting

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Speaker 1: the money. You know, why could they told reverend how

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Speaker 1: to get the five oh one C three So Reverend

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Speaker 1: don't just want Gud's money no more. He won't tax

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Speaker 1: I told Reverend how to get the five oh one

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Speaker 1: So they give him the funded because you won't with

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Speaker 1: That's a mean thing from my community, though, right, just

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Speaker 4: Men get with men.

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Speaker 5: Men a promoter home and a promoter can have stop

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Speaker 5: Pay this pay that you're talking about fifty sixty thousand

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Speaker 4: Go get whoever you like as a round.

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Speaker 5: But if you don't put these people, then they gonna

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Speaker 5: they find go buy some toy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah for sure. And you don't know

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Speaker 5: So I'm saying, we all can't be anti police when

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Speaker 4: Hell yeah, you see out and put it out. I

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Speaker 5: I'm saying, Okay, when you realize how to five oh

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Speaker 4: You got the little boys nappy headed with.

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Speaker 1: The past half off and on or you ain't got

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Speaker 1: mac donald that all them taco bells, all them places

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Speaker 5: You got in your community. You're supposed to go over

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Speaker 5: we're gonna bring all these people over here. They're supposed

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Speaker 5: to get money back. But you don't fuck with these people,

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Speaker 5: so you don't know. So you steaded trying to shame

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Speaker 5: Gena Bivens said that, homie, I went and develop, you know,

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Speaker 5: relationship with the police department, and and by doing that

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Speaker 5: When they got all the rookies over here at.

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Speaker 1: Nighttime, say look out, a deputy dean man. While y'all

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, we are so you're building

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Speaker 5: that kind of relationship as a community leader, Homy. It

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Speaker 5: wasn't when I started trying to go radical that they

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Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: Uh, And I'm starting to be more for us now,

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Speaker 5: I'm talking uh footboo talk for us, by us, with us,

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Speaker 5: madreds Now. I ain't clean cutting no more so now

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Speaker 5: the white people really put it back there. Yeah, because

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Speaker 5: I'm really just starting to go like my people roll,

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Speaker 5: I was being the said I was gonna be a sellout.

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Speaker 5: They were grooming me to be a real and I was.

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Speaker 5: I was jumping in the trail to be groomed or

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Speaker 4: Not that I've been a victim of the culture. Uh.

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Speaker 5: I was victimized spot of culture because I was tricked

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think we've all went through that.

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Speaker 1: Man Like, even with me, I ain't got around certain

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Speaker 1: people and been like I just know he a hustle

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Speaker 1: because he been taught can hustle?

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Speaker 4: Ship? Can you give me fifty? Yeah? People any way,

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Speaker 4: you can't make nothing happen.

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Speaker 1: Them talking, and so I'm saying in the game, ain't

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Speaker 1: even the nun street people pushing the no snitch and ship.

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Speaker 4: Everybody talking like they street hustler. So they tried. Here

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Speaker 4: I am.

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Speaker 5: I got my own room in the third grade with

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Speaker 5: and almost everything. Come from a well to do background.

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Speaker 5: But I want to play poor.

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Speaker 4: That shit crazy.

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Speaker 5: I want to act like I'm from the hood or then,

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Speaker 5: you know how how inferior and insecure I used to feel.

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Speaker 5: We find out from the suburbs.

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Speaker 1: I might hit you across your head with something, just

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Speaker 4: I might hit you up there because that was a

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Speaker 4: that was an inferiority complex. That's crazy being for a

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Speaker 1: That was a thing that we took and said, ain't

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Speaker 1: nowhere in the world. I'm letting no know that where

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Speaker 4: That's how I called you, mynie. Everybody that got it

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Speaker 4: out the mud, everybody from.

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Speaker 1: Man with some silver spoon babies like especially them eighties

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Speaker 1: baby with them them blue collar middle class working parents,

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Speaker 4: And steels and general more men, the blue collar men.

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Speaker 4: Blue collar was.

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Speaker 5: The backbone of a miracle. And that's what most of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, even if they got off on drugs,

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Speaker 4: they maintained them blue collar job. They ain't losing jobs.

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Speaker 4: They smoking dope and everything, ain't that job? Yeah, so

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Speaker 4: uncle like man, So I'm saying now, we all didn't come.

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Speaker 5: So it wasn't until I got damn ime of my

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Speaker 4: I ain't now Yeah, yeah, I want to call the

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Speaker 4: police on the knick. Yeah, you know how hard it

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Speaker 4: was to say that. I know, but then you just

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Speaker 5: Man, set me up to get robbed for twenty two

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Speaker 5: pounds a week or seeing my name put zen Nix in.

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Speaker 5: You know, I start watching my go from shipping syrup

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Speaker 4: Wrenchers in the bottle, shaking it up, trying to go

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Speaker 4: down the dog.

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Speaker 1: I tell them, like all my homies, like, that's why,

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Speaker 1: you know, you can't trust them with this level of

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Speaker 1: You just can't trust it, bro like because it it

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Speaker 4: So you're not home.

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Speaker 1: And so you know, I was known as a as

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Speaker 5: But that be a real character at some point, homie.

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Speaker 5: You yeah, yeah, that that that that was a character.

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Speaker 5: So ultimately that that that end up costing him. So

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Speaker 4: Sent him yeah yeah yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: They end up you know, shooting shooting through the door

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Speaker 4: So yeah, they love me. They beat that, yeah, because

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Speaker 5: Correct where they got some conviction end up going to

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Speaker 5: just beat the tempted capital word on the police because

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Speaker 5: they had been the Big Boy had been robbing, you

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Speaker 5: know after that homie, So it was the most if

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Speaker 5: they asked. Uh So they had been sending text message

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Speaker 5: But to beat that case. Think they even doing like

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Speaker 5: nine or ten years. Uh, ship big boy got out,

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Speaker 5: I hurry out.

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Speaker 4: And I'm on this.

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Speaker 5: Because I'm big on social media now I was starting

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Speaker 4: I'm big on Facebook. Yeah, my ni did it like man, listen,

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Speaker 4: woo woo woo woo woo. We talked about it.

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Speaker 5: Uh, small misunderstanding up a lot of a lot of

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Speaker 4: Mind, you up in your mind? You know me, you know, so,

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Speaker 4: don't be thinking.

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Speaker 1: Man, there you go, but reflect who they are and

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Speaker 1: other people.

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Speaker 4: That's a line.

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Speaker 5: People think everybody lies, thieves, think everybody stealing.

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Speaker 1: I hate that when he text you when they go

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Speaker 4: Damn you don't what? Damn? What in it are you

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Speaker 1: That's what's in your head? You see my fun with me?

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Speaker 1: That's why you think you got to watch for that year.

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Speaker 1: I listened for it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I listened for what's in a man's heart go

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Speaker 5: come out of mouth, especially if he like the talk.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the quiety. Don't say much. You got to

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Speaker 5: So that was that was my life changing experience in

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Speaker 5: had never been betrayed by a friend before. I had

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Speaker 5: never been betrayed by a friend. We don't each other, girls,

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Speaker 5: but when you're young, that's not betrayal.

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Speaker 4: Oh but ye're now.

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Speaker 5: I had never been betrayed, So that was my life. Listen,

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Speaker 5: when you hear me say I don't, I don't so

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Speaker 5: and so so by that time, uh, when I went

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Speaker 5: and got in college. A few years later, all of

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Speaker 5: my real childhood friends start coming home from prison from

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Speaker 5: ship they did when they were kids.

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Speaker 1: Because your friends, you really made friends in prison and

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Speaker 1: boys I was waiting on. We may most of them

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Speaker 1: went to school with we. We didn't main it was

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Speaker 5: You can't maintain the same level of friendship. Uh, from

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Speaker 4: Uh, they might have been winning in school.

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00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,360
Speaker 5: Now they big dogs, can't nobody telling nothing, so they're

442
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 5: super tough, or you know what I'm saying. Or they

443
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,639
Speaker 5: might have been super tough now they're on dope. So

444
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 5: the dynamics had changed, you know what I'm saying. So

445
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:33,159
Speaker 5: I was kind of like.

446
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 4: In the Wielder is just alone. If you was free,

447
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,120
Speaker 4: do you think you would have joined there? I would

448
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:41,479
Speaker 4: have been kissed. It was in your spirit.

449
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 5: So so imagine imagine my internet persona as a gang number.

450
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,360
Speaker 4: It's the same. It would have been the same.

451
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would have been just as disrespectful or yeah,

452
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 5: because that's my that's my temperament or anything I embraced.

453
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,360
Speaker 4: That's me playing basketball. You can't hold me. So that's

454
00:21:58,520 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 4: playing dominoes.

455
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 5: You you that persona comes out, So now that's the

456
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 5: persona I had in the boys Home. So that's how

457
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 5: I got the name Nook. That same in and their

458
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 5: persona was in that little.

459
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 4: With the one. Yeah.

460
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,640
Speaker 5: But and I'm acting, so I'm going overboard, but it's convincing.

461
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 4: It's convincing, you know what I'm saying.

462
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 1: See, because you got this thing like you you you

463
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 1: got this pattern where you said, yo, I infiltrated the police.

464
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 1: I went out there and infiltrated the roll in the sixties.

465
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 1: So you got a certain level of game where you

466
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 1: can make it look like what whatever, you really would

467
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 1: make it.

468
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 4: So so so so.

469
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,679
Speaker 5: So when I joined the gang in ninety two, uh,

470
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 5: gang Bang had already been big in America from the

471
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 5: mid eighties by way of the crack epidemic.

472
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 4: So if you watch that movie what's that movie ever about? Crack?

473
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 4: With that in calif on Netflix, Snowfall. So if you

474
00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 4: watch Snowfall, you saw Jerome them to crack. Yes, other things.

475
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,239
Speaker 5: Stayed in California jeron them to crack crack, and the

476
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,719
Speaker 5: gang bang came together.

477
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 1: It was because it was coming out of La There

478
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 1: you go so so so so that's why you had

479
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: the documentary Banging in Little Rock.

480
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 4: That's why them was so detric That's why they ganged.

481
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 4: That's why they.

482
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 1: Their first years of gang banging was so horrific and

483
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: horrendous because they got to California in the country, then

484
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 1: took the game and took it to extreme.

485
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 5: You saw in the movie he said, Man, the country

486
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 5: wild another they giving you certain history and this shit.

487
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 5: Oh so by the time it get the Texas in Louisiana, Uh,

488
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 5: I'm I'm what, maybe eleven twelve. By the time I'm fourteen,

489
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 5: uh uh, it's here, but I'm from the suburbs.

490
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 4: I don't see it. It ain't in my school, it

491
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 4: ain't in on television.

492
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 5: And when I go to Miamiam House in the guttles,

493
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 5: in the slum, I see them bandana. So it's only

494
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 5: a pilling because I've seen it on colors. It's just

495
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 5: like the ship we see on Love and Hip hop.

496
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 1: You know it's there you go.

497
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 5: So that flag became that was like it was a pilling,

498
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 5: like the cyber truck.

499
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 4: So uh, the the first iPhones, that bandana, Yeah yeah,

500
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 4: yeah yeah.

501
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 1: So uh when I so, I'm one of the very

502
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 1: few kids in my school that was going to Juvenile,

503
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: but I'm going to Jewlie for mischievous, delinquent ships, stealing,

504
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: cause vandalizing.

505
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 4: So I'm getting to get a peak of it the

506
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 4: couple of days.

507
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 5: I'm staying in Julie, come home, go to school, mimic

508
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 5: a stance and walk.

509
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Uh.

510
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:49,199
Speaker 5: When I got to Juvenile, Uh, and I got. I

511
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 5: got to see it full up close and personal, ship

512
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 5: niggas everything I was looking for. It's like said, Mama,

513
00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 5: I won't play football, the camaraderie all got, the Blue

514
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 5: Dick is Home with the raw everything, because it was

515
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 5: already a pillion by way of television with the young

516
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 5: impressionable mind. So at this time, Larry Hoover's literature growth

517
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 5: in development is being started to be spread throughout the

518
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 5: prison system of juvenile system.

519
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,479
Speaker 4: So it's starting to come down South and everything. But

520
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 4: the cryption Bloods.

521
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 5: Don't have no literature, but they're trying to adopt literature.

522
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 5: By way of acronyms crypt community Revolution in Progress, CUZ,

523
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 5: rest in peace, Community Revolution Internationale. So they starting to

524
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 5: put acronym that's the brainwashing with the bullshit for the young,

525
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 5: to make it feel like it's honorable.

526
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 4: So now they coming with.

527
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 5: Acronyms of blood brothers leading others out of darkness.

528
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 4: So they come with some acronym but they getting all

529
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 4: this mixed up with Larry Hoover was teaching the CRYPT.

530
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 5: So now they it's even more pilloy because now we

531
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 5: have literature.

532
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 4: So now just checking each other on literature.

533
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 5: That's g D and b D ship now the cripping

534
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 5: blood and you know your literature. Well, when you were

535
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 5: playing Domino, I was writing who was in games in California?

536
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 5: And the definitely used to let anybody write in prison. Yeah,

537
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 5: some writing and giving me the history and the knowledge.

538
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 5: Then Monster Cody dropped that book. That book what Monster Cody.

539
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 5: So when I went and got the first history by

540
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 5: all the names and the time frames, when I went

541
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 5: in to be that made me the leader amongst each because.

542
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 4: More than you anybody with the information.

543
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 5: So I was with the knowledge and the literature. I

544
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 5: wouldn't learn all the handshake. You know what I'm saying,

545
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 5: because they top dog round, they put it in books,

546
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 5: they put you know what I'm saying.

547
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 4: He showed up learning. Yeah, we just learning ship. But

548
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 4: then we make it up as we go along.

549
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

550
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 5: So uh, that's what superseded me, passed to be a

551
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 5: look because I had the knowledge. Uh, and that's when

552
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 5: I understood knowledge, real power knowledge for sure.

553
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 4: What do you think about? What's the white boy named

554
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 4: ten ninety J?

555
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 5: I hate I hate him. Uh, I can't say this. Uh,

556
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 5: there should be a call of action.

557
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 4: To do something. Now he cannot he be with some ship. Now, well,

558
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 4: why why he don't go?

559
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 5: Why he don't say nothing about the Mexican cartel They

560
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 5: tell Yeah, the the plug tail on the he said

561
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 5: the dope to. Now there's plenty of paperwork on who's

562
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 5: been told on by the Mesican plug. Why he won't

563
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 5: get that paperwork? He know them cartel and mischan. There's

564
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 5: some consequences repercussion. It ain't no consequences in repercussion with

565
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 5: the pigeon. The pigeon don't have anybody can with the pigeons, right,

566
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 5: the pigeon can fly.

567
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 4: And we don't seen video where the pigeon on the

568
00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 4: ground and the rat grab how the so so? Oh

569
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 4: it ain't no so he with the pigeon. Oh but

570
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 4: you mean to tell me, Oh, I done said something

571
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 4: that warned. Some people said get you. You ain't never

572
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 4: hear one city'll get him.

573
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 5: It's made videos to men. I'm gonna get that swore,

574
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 5: by god, it ain't. It's supposed to be some saying

575
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 5: that about him.

576
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 4: Homie he get he getting a waist Scott free and

577
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 4: he interrupted some ship.

578
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 5: And out on that he's not getting real court documented papers.

579
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 4: He's gonna go get news paper clippings, you know how.

580
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 4: That's what I didn't like about paper clippers all. I

581
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 4: didn't like it.

582
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: I didn't like it. Then at eighty years old to

583
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: say old, you're gonna say only you're gonna kick ither

584
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: like damn.

585
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 5: And then the man who he said snitch, don't come

586
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 5: out and said, man, that man didn't snitch on me,

587
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 5: and you're gonna come out and discredited, Homon, you gonna

588
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 5: do our elders coming.

589
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 4: You mean to tell you, ain't nobody gonna get him.

590
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 4: I don't like it, bro, I don't like it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

591
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 4: uh yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

592
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 5: Somebody get him something something something young supposed to be

593
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 5: willing to take this for the team, and we'll love

594
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 5: you to death.

595
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 4: And I can't say it like that, but we'll love you.

596
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 4: Yeah yo, Mama and everybody be will taken care of you.

597
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 4: Ain't got to kill him, Damn man.

598
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: Ship Elder though been locked up fifty years, were gonna

599
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: put this snitch label on it.

600
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 4: They've done fifty and eighty X. Come on, homie, damn,

601
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 4: come on man, we're gonna do that home on homee

602
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 4: And I'm a bona firet Street. I done been told on.

603
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 4: I ain't got no smoke on my jacket. I'm looking

604
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 4: at that like, come on, old man, like damn.

605
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: Bro cut the and then you and then like you

606
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: say when you look over man, it ain't doing it.

607
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 5: It put him, but he ain't doing it to nobody.

608
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 5: But uh now I can see if he played fault

609
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 5: with everybody. Yeah see, I'm I.

610
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 4: Don't win again. I don't It ain't nobody. I ain't

611
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 4: saying nothing bad about Yeah, I'm fab with his mouth.

612
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: He just got us and he paid for he just

613
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: got us, homie, and and they don't put him now.

614
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 4: They wrapping him, bout him, and so on to the

615
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 4: happening then't happening.

616
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: That's what made me think the stupid they slow and

617
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: down like the stupid man.

618
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 4: Why is they like giving ten ninety jake any kind

619
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 4: of props?

620
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 2: Man?

621
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: When listen, if they're stealing packages in this neighborhood, I'm.

622
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 4: Looking out for the thief.

623
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: I ain't thinking my house is too good for the

624
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: package to come up missing. He can turn that on anybody,

625
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: whether it's true or not, at any moment and discredit

626
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: or he don't.

627
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 5: Care if it's true or not, and then he don't retract,

628
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 5: don't recked or none. So so nah homan, no no no, no, no,

629
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 5: no no no.

630
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 4: I hate him. Uh, but you know, or they let

631
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 4: the white boy in.

632
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 5: See I come from eral white boy get mistreated when

633
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 5: we let him in.

634
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 4: We don't play for with him. Yeah, we break into

635
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 4: his high and feel sorry when we come over, but

636
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 4: we the ones done it. Yeah.

637
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: Uh.

638
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 5: When he come over and he played our Nintendo, all

639
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 5: of a sudden, we got contra and we ain't never

640
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 5: had country before, but it's his country and we let

641
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 5: him play it. But he don't get to take it

642
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 5: back home. Yeah, he used to let us take his

643
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 5: country home, and when he asked for it back, we

644
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 5: break into his.

645
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 4: High See how we did our white boy? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

646
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 5: We make our white boy grow up and say, yeah,

647
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 5: see how y'all done. Jedi Row, Yeah, y'all kick.

648
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 4: Y'all, miss treat Jedi Rod. Jediro used to be yall.

649
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 4: Jener Row used to be round here with y'all. They

650
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 4: went to kicking Jedi. They thought Jenni Rod wasn't gonna

651
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 4: be who he was. They thought he was gonna be

652
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,959
Speaker 4: the fan white boy. They can keep kicking in the ass. Hey,

653
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 4: guess what I tell him.

654
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: Niggas around here, Listen, Loom got his own money, done

655
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: it with his own money.

656
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 5: But but but they mistreated him and kicked him in

657
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 5: his ass.

658
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 4: So he started eating. I can't I can't blame it.

659
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 5: It's just like the white boy when he goes when

660
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 5: he come to juvenile, we half have mistreat him in

661
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 5: juvenile until he proves he tough.

662
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 4: We gonna make him prove he got it. We go,

663
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 4: we got here.

664
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: He gotta be a tough the white boy. Once he

665
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: do that, it's another level he gotta go through. He

666
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: get the prison. They think he ain't tough enough. They

667
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: want to him because he's white, because he want to hang.

668
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 5: With the The white boy mad at him because he

669
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 5: want to hang with the Knicks, the force, this white boy,

670
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 5: clean cut white boy. They force him to go get

671
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 5: swastikas put on him the way they go treating.

672
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: Yeah for the doll sat and done to make him

673
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: go there and put swastikas on their faith because the

674
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: way they go mistreated.

675
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 4: So you so you you kind of understand jelly rolls.

676
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 4: I understand, my man, because they listen.

677
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: Dope boys had jelly roll around here like the humming

678
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: from what this music out?

679
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 4: And I heard he with the I heard him. He

680
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:04,959
Speaker 4: would have won us.

681
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 8: He come up with what I am?

682
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 5: But what what niggas don't say here? Man, They old

683
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 5: men in the beginning, before he got bigger, they didn't

684
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 5: think he was gonna do what the That's what I heard.

685
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: And I ain't from the town. I love the town,

686
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: But the word did I get out of my ear?

687
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: They didn't think he will be what he was because

688
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: he was be fatty. He tried to play, Yeah, he

689
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: tried to play, but he started like.

690
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 4: You, he damned and broke them change. He don't even

691
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 4: he over here. He ain't got the he stopped playing.

692
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 4: He wanted to be Come.

693
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: On, man, I'm talking about he was man, I'm talking

694
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: about them. It wasn't even just him. See that's the thing.

695
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: He got the game from some of the white boys

696
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: around here. It was a whole bunch of white boys

697
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: around make him feel like they can't play. Come on, man,

698
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: they play, Yeah, they can play.

699
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:52,479
Speaker 4: They grew up.

700
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: He definitely, he definitely wasn't around. He battle wrapped in

701
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: sarchin clothes and ship cop man. How he don't get

702
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: to be but y'all to get passes to the nine

703
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: times out of ten when we get when the white

704
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: boy play us up on this clothes, he ain't no

705
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: white boy.

706
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 4: We wouldn't. He wouldn't even got their clothes. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

707
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 4: come on now man. Yeah.

708
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: And the brown here mad at Jedieral. They feel as

709
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 1: though he used them. He used he did. But when

710
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: you think about it, if like you're saying, if diggas done,

711
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: if them a certain way, he don't owe no lord

712
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: to that mistreatment.

713
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 4: No, you know what I'm saying.

714
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 1: Why you think you oh, you don't think he probably

715
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 1: feel used or you don't think he feel he don't

716
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 1: feel used.

717
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 4: That's why he don't turned his back.

718
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 5: Ah, if some people feel used, and then are some

719
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 5: people feel misused?

720
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, some people feel misused. Yeah. The person that feel

721
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 4: used got something out of it, that's why they feel used.

722
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 4: The miss huge person feel like they ain't got nothing

723
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 4: out of it.

724
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: That's good game, that's good game. So she and I,

725
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: I feel misused by my city. I put in a

726
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: lot to get nothing out of it. And then, like

727
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: you say, bro, like even they put him on or

728
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: not put him on that I think had something to

729
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 1: do with it, but would always be on the cover

730
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: like Diddy, I want to be on the cover.

731
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 4: I want to be you know.

732
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he so he listen what they named his album,

733
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: Gambling on the Whitey. I quit you, I quit you

734
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: to they Dave the Boy album Gambling on the White

735
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: Boy had no game back there.

736
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 4: They were just trying ship. You know what I'm saying.

737
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 4: They was, man, I quit you.

738
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 5: As for this, but nah, and men hopefully, uh hopefully

739
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 5: one day you know, his heart and heat, he can

740
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 5: come back and men that because ultimately that's that's what

741
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 5: it's about. At some point, God want everybody to be

742
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 5: a Joseph. Joseph was sold in the slavery body.

743
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: His brothers Uh went through accused of rape or was

744
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: raised to the highest level and then started running shit.

745
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 5: And then his brothers needed help. One time went back

746
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 5: to go ask the king for help. They with Joseph.

747
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 5: They didn't know what Joseph, but Joseph recognized his brothers.

748
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 5: His test was, are you go forgive them?

749
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 4: He told men, go.

750
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 5: Back and get your father. Daddy thought Joseph was dead.

751
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 5: They lied and he ate up by animal or something.

752
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 5: Daddy come back and find out minutes is Joseph. He

753
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 5: forgive his brother. So that's that's supposed to be a

754
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 5: part over time. And because I want because I see him,

755
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 5: I'm like, he don't he not? I see it like

756
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 5: I ain't me neither though you can't.

757
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 4: I ain't. You can't. You can't. Man. If you man,

758
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 4: you can't. Much as you want to, man, you better

759
00:36:58,880 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 4: not frame them.

760
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: That's why didn't have a separation. Gotta take place by

761
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 1: force or by choice.

762
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 5: But you gonna be great, and the path of you,

763
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 5: it's a separation that has to take place from you

764
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 5: and what you love.

765
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 4: Do you think.

766
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: Do you think Ford War dropped the ball by not

767
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: embracing you.

768
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, homy day they were mad at me, uh with

769
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 5: the Go Yeo situation or when when when they took

770
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 5: Go Yo to the schools? So they let Go Yoo

771
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 5: go to all the forward independent school districts, middle schools

772
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 5: and high school and he was performing his hit song

773
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 5: at the time, my Fty Go Boom.

774
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 4: And at this time, outside.

775
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 5: Of Chief Keithnil, it wasn't really no real young putting

776
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 5: guns in the video had on arsenal guns in there,

777
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 5: and they was all in the house in the dark apartment.

778
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 4: So uh, I started raising hell because I'm saying, how

779
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 4: can this kid come up there?

780
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 5: And the average black father if they do a background

781
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 5: tick and they got a feeling you, they can't come

782
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 5: up to the school. But this kid who rapping his violence,

783
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 5: he can come to a PEP rally to promote the

784
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 5: Stars test. And only thirty six percent of our children

785
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 5: can read on above their grade level and the tire

786
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 5: me and what the fuck? And they still felt the

787
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 5: Stars Test.

788
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 4: So we did niggat. So when I raised hell, they

789
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 4: made the news. It made China news.

790
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 5: Uh, the city was mad at me because they felt

791
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 5: like I was hating on the young Niggs. And at

792
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 5: the time, all the all the little hood ma almost

793
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 5: had their all the little boys her would die like him.

794
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 4: Uh.

795
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 5: So he went back and made a song called China

796
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 5: eight News. Uh, you know, and it was a badass song.

797
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 4: Uh. Ultimately he went in. He went on to fail,

798
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 4: just got out of prison. For the second or.

799
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: Third he hit me up, man try to get on

800
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: the show. I talked to him maybe about a couple

801
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: of weeks.

802
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 4: And he seemed too angry. A lot of young men

803
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 4: died behind him.

804
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: Uh.

805
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 5: We just saw the rap of a little running and

806
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 5: his baby get killed. Uh you know, roomored to have

807
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 5: something to do with him. So yeah, there's been a

808
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 5: lot of deaf in destruction.

809
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 4: Uh. And now the city said, man, you were right,

810
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 4: but too late.

811
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 2: Uh.

812
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 4: They literally went against me for that. Uh not only that.

813
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 5: Once I started embracing the Republican Party platform and promoting.

814
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 4: It, the city went against me. So uh yeah, they

815
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 4: dropped the ball.

816
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, because had they embraced you, things look different, they

817
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 1: sound different, you know, as far as like how you

818
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: speak about into them. Yeah, because I can tell like

819
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 1: that there's a level of Man, you didn't even believe

820
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:36,959
Speaker 1: in this shit.

821
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 5: Now listen, they watched me, homie. You're talking about a

822
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 5: city who who I was walking? I think I had

823
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 5: to catch three buses to get to the classy lady

824
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 5: to go over and help. They catched three busses, my knicks,

825
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 5: and I ain't just catching the bus. I'm catching them

826
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 5: on on the main line when the walk righte by.

827
00:39:58,800 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: Man.

828
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, the shame to come with it.

829
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 5: Sometime when I got to the second bus, I ain't

830
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 5: got enough money to get the third bus that had

831
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 5: dropped me off right in front, so I gotta walk. Uh,

832
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 5: so you're in a humbo. So it was a lot

833
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 5: of you know, it was a lot of Uh, it

834
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:17,919
Speaker 5: was a lot of self you know home and Yeah,

835
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 5: there was a lot of self reflecting and talking to

836
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 5: you know home and so. Uh and I'm struggling, homie.

837
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 5: So it wasn't until I showed my Mexican potner how

838
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 5: to sue his job. While you know, I had finally

839
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 5: hustled up on a little money to put a damn

840
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 5: pavement on a little old hooptie. Uh, you're talking about

841
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 5: two years without a car riding the bus. Me and

842
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 5: me and my babies and my kids, putting the kids

843
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 5: bikes on front of the bus, riding riding the train

844
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 5: for fort worth of dollars, riding the bus, riding the

845
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,479
Speaker 5: bikes downtown, just so the kids saying, ooh, Daddy, look,

846
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 5: because that's all we can do. Then maybe get a

847
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 5: soda off, some ice cream and go back home and

848
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 5: cook a hamburger, help a meal so that you know

849
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 5: I ain't had it so and then you know, take

850
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 5: them to the swimming pool. So I'm trying to do

851
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 5: free ship as a day, going to the library, doing

852
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 5: ship like that. So uh, I'm going to the community

853
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 5: to help me. So uh so.

854
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 4: Do you have the same story.

855
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: Do you feel as though what you just the advice

856
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: you just off of the jelly roll will be your story?

857
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 4: Wrestling?

858
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 5: Uh yeah yeah, but right now my heart is hardened,

859
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 5: So I wrestle with that. That's that's me and God

860
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 5: secret me guard and older because all of them trying

861
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 5: to be you.

862
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you done change this town.

863
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,959
Speaker 5: Everybody in town trying to be charged in white, trying

864
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 5: to act they think they can.

865
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: Uh.

866
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 4: They really love you, they just don't know how.

867
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 5: Uh But now nigga, they saw me burying kids. I

868
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 5: ain't never been a que of messing with no kids,

869
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 5: trying to sleep with a young girl trying to they mamas.

870
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,959
Speaker 5: I ain't never been a que with the nonprofit trying

871
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 5: to get the money. Uh So there's no smug one.

872
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 5: So I'm saying, uh so when the snitch tag came,

873
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 5: you didn't see people from our city sentiment. I ain't

874
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 5: never told on nobody. You ain't You ain't see nobody

875
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 5: else say that, Or it's a dude who attacked me

876
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 5: at the barber shop. Is a well known, documented federal snitch,

877
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 5: Kevin Spencer, twisted black hugged up with him.

878
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 4: None snitch.

879
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 5: Uh it's a book about this nitching called The Life

880
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 5: of the Life of the fish Bowl.

881
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 4: So the city is scared of this. Now they got

882
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 4: them gangster snitches.

883
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 5: Now he won of them, got babies. He impregnated fifteen

884
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 5: year old kids.

885
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 4: Oh whooped the daddy. It won't nobody saying that about it.

886
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 5: I won't mention keV. Won't mention Kevin Spencer. I'm known

887
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 5: from the city that public that nitch. That's what made

888
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 5: me start pushing the snitch character because I watched all

889
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 5: the g still hug him and hit his g when

890
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 5: he came home after snitching. He snitched on his young shooters,

891
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 5: the young they caught him for dope. He told on

892
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 5: murders that the young shooters had got away with. So

893
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 5: it's young shooters.

894
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 4: So I said, man, this.

895
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, but he still got the same level of respect here.

896
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 5: I am playing snitch and y'all gonna let me act

897
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 5: like i'm so that's what made me really turning against

898
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 5: That's who attacked me at the barbershop.

899
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 4: What happened with that case?

900
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 5: You beat I beat that ship. I beat that ship,

901
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 5: and what happened with them? Uh, it's they charge is

902
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 5: still pending. The police was in on this, remember the police,

903
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 5: the one put me. The police was in on it.

904
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 4: That's how I got charge. The black police in on this.

905
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 5: I'm with the white boy who wrote the book who

906
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 5: made this nitch, Officer Tigan.

907
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 4: So me and Tigan is working with the kids.

908
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: That's who me and Aiden Ross went and helped the

909
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: kids with When me and a and Ross went to

910
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: the city, Me and Aiden Ross went and helped the kids.

911
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: So the Black police office is mad about this because

912
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: this been paying the Black police office.

913
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 4: It's in the book.

914
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 1: Here I come working in the community, exposing the dirty

915
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: of the black cops. So you hear me say, Tracy Carter,

916
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: out this the dirty cop twisted black all tied in

917
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: with it.

918
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 4: So I'm with the white.

919
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: Boy cleaning up the community. And we done help the

920
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: kids of all these left the kid behind. So they

921
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: mad in me.

922
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 4: What did he attack?

923
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 1: So he attacked you because I called him a snitch

924
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 1: because you were saying something I called.

925
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 4: Nobody in our city have ever called that snitch. But

926
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 4: it's but you said. It's well known. It's documented.

927
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 5: Kevin Spencer is part of the reason of fish Bowl

928
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 5: fifty forty something crip members arrested. He the main FBI

929
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 5: snitched and he told him, cain't nobody whooped me.

930
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 4: So I ain't going in federal protection. I'm coming back

931
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 4: to the city.

932
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: Hey probably like man, Yeah, golden glove, champ Hitte, that's

933
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: what cheating.

934
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 4: We were just talking my daddy getting me sleep. He

935
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 4: didn't wake me up with them good hands. He hit

936
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 4: me sleep. So I days for a minute. But when

937
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 4: I come to or I get charged. That's crazy.

938
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 5: Nigga, Yeah, nigga, when I come to I catch tooth

939
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 5: aggravated saulce.

940
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 4: And it was on cameras, so they should they seen that.

941
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 5: Well, they the police mad at me, remember yeah, yeah,

942
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 5: they want to know why did I go to the

943
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 5: car to retrieve my weapon because they got they got

944
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 5: them the coming and he got a pistol that the

945
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 5: witness said after he hit me with the gun, he

946
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 5: gave it to man Man.

947
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: Man Man put the gun in his right back pocket.

948
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: You see man Man holding a gun in the video.

949
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 5: Somebody from another police department got to steal shot of

950
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 5: him holding the gun in the picture.

951
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 4: That's how I beat the charges. Wow.

952
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 5: But at the time I had just made the comments

953
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 5: about the Asians, so they put up They put a

954
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 5: veteran Asian detective on my case.

955
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 4: God damn he know that rhetoric.

956
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 1: Here's another reason why you were probably upset with God

957
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: yea yo, and and them allowing him in the school district,

958
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: is because you someone that fell victim to the rhetoric

959
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: like me. There you go, y'all feel victim to that rhetoric.

960
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 4: It's two songs that that that changed my life.

961
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 5: Hey, we want some pussy or because I didn't know

962
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 5: nothing about running trains.

963
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 4: So me and most of me and most of my knicks.

964
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 5: Uh, that's how we picked our girlfriends. Every girl we know,

965
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 5: admit we tried to run and train on the girl

966
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 5: we couldn't run trains on. That's who we typically dated.

967
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 5: It's always been by your homeboy, don't want you to

968
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 5: have no single pussy. Most of them can't get pussy.

969
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the culture.

970
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 5: By way of this song, Me and my homies like

971
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 5: to play this game. Some call it amn track or son.

972
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 5: These were instructions for we all would line up in

973
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 5: a single fire line, pulling on that dick, carry up

974
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 5: my turn something, running up to her, putting it on.

975
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 5: The man may come on and hurry up. And she

976
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 5: don't know the scht over. She got addictions overhead, she

977
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 5: got this yeah, waiting his turn, come on now and

978
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 5: we and we twelve thirteenth and we listened to the music.

979
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 4: So then you got colors color. I am a knight,

980
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 4: Mary walkin cycle passed off. So these are ways.

981
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: To to uh indoctrinate them or in exhibit angle and

982
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 1: display angle release angle is giving you instruction.

983
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 4: I am a so trying to be a psychopath.

984
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 5: Then she the police made it so goddamn rebellious for

985
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 5: no reason because at the time you got the police,

986
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 5: you got the dark program, drug abuse resistant education.

987
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 4: Did the police come off of the Rodney King shit

988
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 4: or before before long Barter police long before, long before,

989
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 4: long before, So it wasn't even in response to that.

990
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 5: Come later niggas then Rodney King we got, uh, I

991
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 5: think Snoop Nim Snoop and Dre had got together by

992
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 5: the end. Yeah, nah homeless. So when we get the police,

993
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 5: it created such a rebellious spirit amongst us toward authority

994
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 5: figures outside of our parents. So nah, nigga just had

995
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 5: a natural disdain for police just off that song.

996
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 4: So it it it It's like it's like it became

997
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 4: an indoctrination. They and know they was doing it at

998
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 4: the time.

999
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 5: It took it took a while for them to figure

1000
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 5: out what nigga took a minute.

1001
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 4: They didn't know it for they had no idea. See

1002
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 4: the Lord's talking them was hoghering the screen dash when

1003
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 4: they got here.

1004
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 5: So you're talking ninety three two now they figured out.

1005
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,720
Speaker 5: That's when the industry shi okay, we got a machine.

1006
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: Uh, that's when gangsterism came. Before then the gangsterism, Uh,

1007
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: it wasn't in the culture at all. It was that

1008
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: I think about it.

1009
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 5: It was a veryal thing because you got to things.

1010
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 5: You got cool o d you got l A L

1011
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 5: Dougie Fresh.

1012
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 4: Then all of a sudden her comes in w n

1013
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 4: w A come right out a kid and played and

1014
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 4: you got something that ship yeah, yeah doing but you

1015
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 4: got something count of this ship.

1016
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's a pushback on it. But uh, when

1017
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 5: they realized the machine and the power of it, uh,

1018
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:04,720
Speaker 5: they that's when they started commercializing gangsterism. Uh, in painting

1019
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 5: it in the form of entertainment and in propagating it.

1020
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 4: Uh.

1021
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 5: Propagating it, uh, in promoting it to to to us

1022
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 5: as a culture. So all the all the videos were

1023
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 5: shot behind balls in prison or now you starting to

1024
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 5: see the chalk lines. They wouldn't put in the dead

1025
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 5: about it. They was just putting chalk. You started seeing

1026
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 5: the yellow tape.

1027
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 2: Uh.

1028
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 5: It was a slow or programming. It wasn't the sensitation.

1029
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 5: It was a programming. Were not desensitized to it. It still

1030
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 5: affects us.

1031
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 4: Uh, we're just programmed by it. Crazy.

1032
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: First I seen.

1033
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: Shut down, man, I want to Yeah, I appreciate that's

1034
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: my guy.

1035
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 2: I'm finna talk to him about that too. Man, I'm

1036
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna fix that. You.

1037
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: I don't know what was on stage, No, I got

1038
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 1: him and king his horns doing something. Yeah, everyone to

1039
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: know they're gonna do to.

1040
00:50:55,360 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 2: Men want to give him. Appreciate you, but you're patient.

1041
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: You're patient.

1042
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 6: You know how to ask the question and then take

1043
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 6: a pivot, let them answer, and then based on how

1044
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 6: to answer, you know how to build off that question,

1045
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 6: use that question to transient to you.

1046
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 9: So you real you you real strategic on like, Yeah,

1047
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 9: appreciate that. Appreciate that for sure. Yeah, I'm gonna fix

1048
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 9: that umar thing. Yeah, I'm gonna 'all on staff. I

1049
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 9: thank y'all together.

1050
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: Gonna be could be a could be a good thing, right,

1051
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: just a good conversation.

1052
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 2: And I know, I'm proudly I can fix it.

1053
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1054
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: That's my guy. I know I can fix it. You

1055
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I know I can fix it.

1056
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: I just gotta I gotta guarantee him that you ain't

1057
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: gonna yeah.

1058
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 8: Same.

1059
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: I had to do with Candice Owns though, Like I

1060
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: had to. I had to guarantee her. Look, I got

1061
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: control of this. I'm moderating this. We're gonna do it

1062
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: at the h B c U.

1063
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, T s U. So you know my thing is,

1064
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 2: you know when you're gonna do it. We waiting on her.

1065
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 1: She she gotta give us today. But they both are

1066
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: locked in. So showing day you know you're good, you come.

1067
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 2: Sitting yeah, yeah, yeah, because I.

1068
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: Gotta fix that with you and him, because I think

1069
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 1: that's that's also another that's something that I think is

1070
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: gonna be.

1071
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 2: That's that's gonna be one hundred meal. That's gonna be

1072
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 2: beting Cat Williams. And ain't want.

1073
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 1: Daddy discussion, you know, cause he just came in contact

1074
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: with his daughters.

1075
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 2: You last time he was here. Because you know how

1076
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 2: I get out right, because you know I can go.

1077
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,399
Speaker 1: I can really dig if I won't because and then

1078
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: I platinum.

1079
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 2: So ain't no case say nothing about me.

1080
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: So I can dig dig like on some of them

1081
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: you can see well because it's me and your first time.

1082
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 2: I'm not pushing it right.

1083
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: It's like me and brother gotta get cool so he

1084
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: know I don't mean no harm with this.

1085
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 2: This ain't harmful. This is just content.

1086
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 5: That's why me and Big Banks interview was so good

1087
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 5: because we had already built a relationship, right, you know

1088
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. So, yeah, so I ain't somebody pushing

1089
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 5: because I'm transparent. Yeah, and I think you can't stand

1090
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 5: before the people and have this kind of mouth.

1091
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 4: Uh, if you ain't willing to be pushed.

1092
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: Bro Umar tell you when you talk to him, He'll

1093
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: tell you. Loan raised my ship. The way I got

1094
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: I started getting more bookis because I changed how people

1095
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: dealt with him.

1096
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 4: People would just let him, you did, people just let

1097
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 4: him running.

1098
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was saying that he well, he goes, he goes, Yeah,

1099
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: and he got the deep voice.

1100
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 4: And do you like this? Yeah? See that what I

1101
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:32,919
Speaker 4: would pointing out. Yeah.

1102
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: See I'm pointing all that out on stage. It's a

1103
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: crowd full of people too. I'm rocking this bitch. He

1104
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: doing me like you I said, y'all see him a

1105
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: nigga with this activeness, because.

1106
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 4: That's you know, that's part of the Yeah I'm this

1107
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 4: part of the show. It's the preacher.

1108
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, the theatrics. I do it, I do it, I jump,

1109
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: I do it all the time, and.

1110
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 4: He and so and so. Uh. It was. It was

1111
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 4: a beautiful.

1112
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: I even had to stop the crowd because he had

1113
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 1: them going so and see, I'm coming straight out the streets.

1114
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: I ain't never done a live interview. That was my

1115
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: first live interview would do. It's six hundred and fifty

1116
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: people in that mark and I'm and they started acting

1117
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: like they finna take over the interview.

1118
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 8: I start, hey, going on this my shit, y'all in

1119
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 8: here doing y'all got to calm all, let down, NI

1120
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 8: continue my name.

1121
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, get what though?

1122
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 8: The comments start getting at me all and that he mad.

1123
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 8: But they don't know. They didn't feel the energy in

1124
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 8: the building was feeling.

1125
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 4: It was going left.

1126
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were doing too much clapping and shit, they

1127
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: were just doing too much dick ride and they didn't

1128
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: like the fact that I was pushing.

1129
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 4: Uh uh.

1130
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 5: Black people want a hero so bad. Yeah, but they

1131
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 5: also need a villain too.

1132
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 4: Which one do you think you play? I played the villain.

1133
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 5: I came out playing the villain because to me, this

1134
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 5: what this would end up happening when when black people

1135
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 5: picked their heroes, they also turn them into a villain

1136
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 5: as well.

1137
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 4: They did Michael Jackson, they.

1138
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 5: Did Whitney Houston, they did them Max, they did Bobby Brown,

1139
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 5: They did uh, Gary Coleman.

1140
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 4: Uh man, they did James Brown.

1141
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 5: Because the hero, the hero has a has a has

1142
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 5: a weakening time, have a time where they appear to

1143
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 5: be human. In every movie, Superman, Spider Man, all of

1144
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 5: them have a moment where they'll appear to be human.

1145
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 5: And so when when our heroes are pet to be human,

1146
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 5: we kick them because that's normally when they're down. Yes,

1147
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 5: so the time we seen them X at the gas

1148
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 5: station in Arizona, they take the pictures of them. He

1149
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 5: got the herb mission in they used to laugh at him.

1150
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 4: Uh. With Whitney Houston, we did all our great so homie. Uh.

1151
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 5: People say, man, he just saying something. But before I

1152
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 5: came to the internet, Uh, I really I really thought

1153
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 5: about what I'm doing. I really say, Okay, uh, this

1154
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 5: what you go do? So uh, I ain't want to

1155
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,479
Speaker 5: be the hero. I really came to play the villain.

1156
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 5: That's why everything's been against everything we love.

1157
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 4: But that's but that's kind of that is the hero.

1158
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 4: Let me finish.

1159
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm glad you said that, but because what ended

1160
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 5: up happening when when when we or us or they

1161
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 5: pick you as the hero in the end, you become

1162
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 5: our villain, right, you stop being what we wanted you

1163
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 5: to be in the beginning. So we done made all

1164
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 5: of our heroes villains in the end. Yes, Uh, that's

1165
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 5: why I'm mad at this ten ninety Jake ship. He

1166
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 5: trying to villain for our hero so then all of

1167
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 5: our villains become heroes and the end.

1168
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 4: Look at R. Kelly.

1169
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's well beloved today, you think, But but do

1170
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: you think that? Because again, I think when the message

1171
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: is the message and the message is potent, and that's

1172
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 1: one thing you got and Umar gott and that's why

1173
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: again I'm gonna fix you, and Umar, I'm gonna fix that.

1174
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: And yeah, I.

1175
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 4: Agreed to him. I agreed to him once before.

1176
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the people don't have the equity with him there,

1177
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, you gotta thank me

1178
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: and Umar been doing this five six years.

1179
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then and then and then and then I

1180
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 5: think he got a problem with the complexion of the brothers.

1181
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he and he's standing on that.

1182
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: That's one thing with him and you both of y'all

1183
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: are like, yo, I stand on what I stand on

1184
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: saying with Candice on see, that's my niche in live shows.

1185
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: My niche is to bring two scholars, two thinkers in

1186
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: there and let's get to it.

1187
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I've I got my.

1188
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: Proof of concept with just me and Umar been doing it,

1189
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: and I got my deck and I all let to

1190
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: all the sponsorships and ship so we ready, Right, it's

1191
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: gonna go. And I got the HB see you on

1192
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: lot to have the conversation.

1193
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 4: So let me let me So this is Homon Wright.

1194
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 5: Writing papers in college really helped me within it and

1195
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 5: just different things I've written about Hollywood, which is an entity,

1196
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 5: the entertainment industry. It's an industry, but Hollywood is an entity.

1197
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 5: Our government meets with this entity.

1198
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 4: We don't know who run this entity.

1199
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 5: This is a powerful entity, yes, right, and this power

1200
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,959
Speaker 5: was gained because people like watching and listening to them.

1201
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 5: And the whole proof of concept came from a story

1202
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 5: like Superman, a regular guy becoming a superhero, good guy

1203
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 5: turning hero, bad guy, turning hero, hero turning bad guy.

1204
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 4: Those concepts built Hollywood.

1205
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 5: I took the same concept homeie, We're coming to the Internet.

1206
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 5: I'm gonna come play of villain. At some point, I'm

1207
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 5: gonna get somebody's attention playing this villain, and they gonna

1208
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 5: look and see who this real man is. The real

1209
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 5: man is really a hero in our retrospect, but online

1210
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 5: here a villain. So that's how I was able to

1211
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 5: look at Nip in Eribis and say just how I'm

1212
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 5: gonna teach Because Confucian said, he who controls images controls minds. Well,

1213
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 5: hip hop now is a because of gangsterism.

1214
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 4: Uh, it's become a mind altering tool like a substance.

1215
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 4: That like a substance.

1216
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 5: So off of imagery, what image a gangster image? Let's

1217
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 5: separate the gangster image because most of we think gangster.

1218
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 4: I ain't really gangster.

1219
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: It ain't gangst in the courtroom, ain't there you go?

1220
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: So so when I learned about ear Miss, I said, I

1221
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 1: don't know what's go coming this.

1222
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 5: It's gonna be my teaching point. He wasn't who we

1223
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 5: saw as Nip. When you listen to everybody who talk

1224
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 5: about this guy's mind and brain and how compassionate it was,

1225
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 5: how can he be a gang member repping sixties as

1226
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 5: notorious as there is and be you have to come

1227
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 5: play along and then break away and.

1228
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: Get over with you same what you was doing in

1229
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: the boards there you go. Yeah, so I was able to.

1230
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 5: I wanted to separate, seeing that Charleston ain't seeing nothing right.

1231
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: But I'm still always infatuated with you breaking those chains

1232
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: because I know they was heavy.

1233
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 4: Chack it was it will it hume?

1234
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 5: Uh because you because here you admire ear miss, and

1235
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 5: you're hurting. You're hurting some people who think these are

1236
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 5: the same people. But when I got to walk down

1237
01:00:53,600 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 5: before the casket, I made it my business to to

1238
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 5: to capture the facial expressions of black Sam and the

1239
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 5: mother and the father home.

1240
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 4: And uh, they wasn't very nipsey.

1241
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 5: We still got nipped. We still got nip. We can

1242
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 5: put a song on.

1243
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 4: They ain't got I. They can't play that music and

1244
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 4: bring get spirit.

1245
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 5: So I was it was after that it was easy

1246
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 5: because so we was there to to to celebrate and

1247
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:32,439
Speaker 5: beery nip.

1248
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 4: They were walking away with a void that will never

1249
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 4: be felled. So so.

1250
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 5: When I learned that, I thought he wasn't when I

1251
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 5: found out he was from Ephrin and so.

1252
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 4: Now I'm learning about now I'm learning about him. Now

1253
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 4: I'm learning here you go. Now I'm learning. Uh, no,

1254
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 4: wonder he was different. Not only he understands who he was,

1255
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 4: and he knew his culture and his names have a meaning, right.

1256
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 4: Uh And Nipsey really wasn't his real gang name. It

1257
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 4: was Thundercat, I think. Yeah, yeah, yep was because he

1258
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 4: was under that other Yeah yeah, yeah, uh yeah, we

1259
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 4: knew nip Bared a whole nother person. You know what.

1260
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 4: Another part of.

1261
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: You that I think is something that that is going

1262
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,439
Speaker 1: to be studied, I'm talking in the future. Is that

1263
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: because when let me ask you this first, have you

1264
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 1: ever been on the debate team.

1265
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 5: Or anything like that? Yeah, I almost can feel those

1266
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 5: draw Yeah. I used to be on the debate team.

1267
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 5: I did the I did the I did the civil

1268
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 5: rights play. Uh yeah, I did all of them. Spelling

1269
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 5: bee yeah, uh, science projects, I did it all home.

1270
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: I could tell because when you came to the internet

1271
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 1: for me anyway, right, because I'm high level, I'm reading it.

1272
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm one of the highest level in America,

1273
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 1: so I'm knowing this. But but I felt like a

1274
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: certain points you were pigeonhole in yourself.

1275
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 4: I'm saying, no way you can get out of that.

1276
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 4: We spun out of that, I said, God damn. But

1277
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 4: because I mean listen.

1278
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 5: As as as the things I have said home, it

1279
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 5: is a reason why I said it, and if you

1280
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 5: ask me, you press me. And most people don't give

1281
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 5: me a reason why once I say it. They won't

1282
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 5: let me explain it Home. I can tell you anything

1283
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 5: I've said, I can give you a reason on why

1284
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 5: I said it.

1285
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 4: Whether you agree with it or not.

1286
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,439
Speaker 5: I just didn't say it and that and that's hard

1287
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 5: for people to understand.

1288
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: Oh man, he made it, and no I ain't. Really

1289
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: this is what you got. The equity though that people

1290
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 1: is you have. Maybe not everybody, maybe not one hundred percent,

1291
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: but there's enough people in there that says yeah, but y'all.

1292
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 4: Listening, man, brother really.

1293
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 1: Built that up the time by doing what I'm saying,

1294
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 1: spinning out of spinning or now this was really about this,

1295
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 1: and in particular, you.

1296
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 4: Can't homely listen. Uh.

1297
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 5: My mother have never watched me on the internet because

1298
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 5: of my language, so she don't know the internet persona.

1299
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 5: And if you call her she gonna say, well, shoot,

1300
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,439
Speaker 5: well I don't know him like that. She can watch

1301
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 5: certain things, but you got a sneak it on him

1302
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 5: cause she don't know when I'm on cuss. Oh, if

1303
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,439
Speaker 5: you try to talk about that Charleston and she gonna

1304
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 5: say I don't know him, two different people. So when

1305
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 5: I came to the internet, I wanted to get everybody

1306
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 5: attention homie, man, fuck that baby?

1307
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 4: Oh man, how can he say that baby? Man?

1308
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 5: Listen, y'all say that baby every time, and it was

1309
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 5: a baby got killed over there. Man, that's how y'all

1310
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 5: that baby. But but y'all done said. But you said

1311
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:36,959
Speaker 5: it with your action.

1312
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how you throw him. And so for me,

1313
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 1: with high level game, that was even me up. I

1314
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: would say, oh, he'd done got you with hypocrisy. He

1315
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 1: whooping on you with hypocrisy. And then I started to

1316
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 1: see other people try to take that approach, and I

1317
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 1: worried for them, in particular like Kanye.

1318
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 4: I saw your birth the new Kanye, whether you.

1319
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 5: Can well, we're home home No no, uh we have

1320
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 5: been then listen me, me and Kanye for at least

1321
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 5: a year, uh men, and books to each other. We

1322
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 5: literally wrote books.

1323
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 4: You damn the and doctrinated him. Bro.

1324
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 1: What I'm telling you, especially on hypocrisy tip especially.

1325
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 5: As man, come on back home. I'm trying to tell

1326
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 5: the man listen. Uh yeah, we Homer, you can, he

1327
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 5: can afford to do it. I had to come back

1328
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 5: to the middle. Yes, I couldn't go all the way

1329
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 5: to the right. I had to come back to the

1330
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 5: middle because they was they was erasing me the internet,

1331
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 5: and that's what they're doing to him.

1332
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 4: Uh. And they know that's not his heart. They know

1333
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 4: that's not his heart. But because the rhetoric running your game,

1334
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 4: he literally running your game. He said, I'm on my

1335
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 4: charle some white ship. I said, feel when he said that,

1336
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:01,919
Speaker 4: is that a coat sign?

1337
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 5: Or well, I'm saying, uh, I'm saying, we're both playing

1338
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 5: on opposite end of the field. Again, we're both playing

1339
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 5: on opposite end. Come on, let's let's play on the

1340
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 5: same end. H If we both was on an end

1341
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 5: at the time I was doing it when it was,

1342
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 5: it would have been way more powerful.

1343
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 4: You waited too late. Now it seemed like you're coming

1344
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 4: off as hateful.

1345
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 1: Uh and and and uh. You getting lost in the rhetoric,

1346
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: because that's what I'm telling you. The spin move. I

1347
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,919
Speaker 1: didn't tell you how I'm playing in my feet. See,

1348
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: it's more game with this ship. Now, I gotta give you.

1349
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,439
Speaker 1: You just saw the spin move and said, oh, that's

1350
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 1: how let me start running.

1351
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 4: You're walking that. Ain't you understand that I'm doing like that?

1352
01:06:55,880 --> 01:07:00,040
Speaker 5: So I'm saying, damn, yay, we could have ran and

1353
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 5: they play together. But right now, Uh, I done gravitated

1354
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 5: back this way toward everything you speaking against. And I

1355
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 5: don't find out the people you're doing bussing with might

1356
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 5: be mad at you, but they kids love you.

1357
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 4: These are the same kids that told Willy Willie.

1358
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 5: I swear when I get up and take over, I'm

1359
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 5: gonna set you and your family free.

1360
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 4: These them kids are saying they're gonna set a free y'all.

1361
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 4: I'm with them. Come on you, goddamn it. Don't scare

1362
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 4: them out. He's scarring them out. That's good game. That's

1363
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 4: good game.

1364
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 1: They taking over you. They're saying, they we're gonna I.

1365
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 4: Promise you, Jimmy, when when again, I'm gonna send you

1366
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 4: and your mom and them free. You're not gonna be

1367
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 4: a slave.

1368
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 1: And you're talking about and the young influential Jewish kids

1369
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 1: and the people are the daughters and sons, are the

1370
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 1: people running these companies. The admiration they had for ya.

1371
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 1: But again he's he's he's flying so close to the son.

1372
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 1: If he had all if you had all those deals,

1373
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 1: all that influence, would you do the same thing that

1374
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 1: he's doing.

1375
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 4: Oh you had that power? No, h Homer.

1376
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 5: He doing what I did when I first came to

1377
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 5: the internet with nothing.

1378
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: But you was fighting. That's what I'm saying. It's like

1379
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 1: you fighting to get into the industry. It's like he

1380
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 1: fighting to get out there.

1381
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 5: I was fighting a initial threat. I don't know if

1382
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 5: he's fighting initial threat. But then I don't know because

1383
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 5: he's a billionaire.

1384
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:40,560
Speaker 4: I don't know what billionaire right for sure, you know

1385
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I know they snapped their fingers one

1386
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 4: day and he wasn't a billionaire. That was crazy. So

1387
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 4: maybe that's you know what I'm saying. So I don't

1388
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 4: know what's his initial threat.

1389
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 5: But I'm saying, Uh, every hateful, hearted, racist person have

1390
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 5: learned to love what they hate through their children.

1391
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 4: I think we got to stay there saying, because that's

1392
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 4: some good game. Boy. He had the hearts and minds

1393
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 4: of them in.

1394
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: All the youth, and that don't exclude Jewish children, That

1395
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 1: don't exclude children.

1396
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's everyone loved yay.

1397
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 1: And then he started to do some of those things

1398
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 1: that can be confusing because he's using the Charleston White

1399
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 1: spin move. You see what I'm saying, He's and when

1400
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 1: I say this, I wasn't.

1401
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 4: I wasn't in pain. Ya ya hurt. Yeah, I was frustrated.

1402
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:33,799
Speaker 4: I wasn't hurt. The difference I wouldn't. I hadn't.

1403
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 5: I was becoming angry. I wouldn't mad. I was becoming

1404
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 5: angry from this man.

1405
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 4: Shout up? Who man?

1406
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 8: They shout up.

1407
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: The ninety two year old woman had next door to

1408
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 1: Big Paul Mama, how made him?

1409
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 4: So you know, I'm becoming But I wasn't mad. Oh,

1410
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 4: I wasn't scoring. I hadn't. There was no.

1411
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 5: I wasn't resentful because somebody had done something to me.

1412
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 5: I'm saying, we I'm looking at men. Okay, I'm just

1413
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 5: the conditions, Uh yeah, showing resentment, contentment or anger displaced anger.

1414
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 4: So the ship you just what he dis playing. Yeah,

1415
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 4: Y'A don't know if it's a tactic. It's a tactic

1416
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 4: because see what happens.

1417
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 1: What if you ask me, my opinion is he saw

1418
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:25,679
Speaker 1: you wig a lot of that ship with the with

1419
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 1: with some of the rhetoric. UF said some of the

1420
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 1: things that people are are unpleased with that you have said,

1421
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 1: but you were able to make it a point of that.

1422
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 4: Baby man, y'all heard that, y'all don't care no about babies?

1423
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:39,680
Speaker 4: What about this? What about that?

1424
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 1: And so he started to see that hypocrisy was very

1425
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: effective when you can bring it to the light. So

1426
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 1: he's trying to do that on a much, much, much

1427
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:50,719
Speaker 1: major level.

1428
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 5: I had sure, I had, I had sure if Bill

1429
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 5: Waburn come to me, big old, tall white man and

1430
01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:59,520
Speaker 5: then Chris Kyle are good friends.

1431
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 4: He's a hero in white people eyes bad. Sure.

1432
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 5: Uh, he came to me, Charleston. We love you to death.

1433
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 5: Our children and everybody love you.

1434
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 4: Man. We just love you to death, he said.

1435
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 5: But the use of the N word online, that get

1436
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 5: a lot of emails about it. And it's when I

1437
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:21,600
Speaker 5: was just starting to use the word. He see mean,

1438
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 5: can you kind of scale back from it?

1439
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 4: Homan?

1440
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 5: They don't want their children to see that ugly side

1441
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 5: of this, right, as a contrary to what we believe.

1442
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 5: They ain't nigger, nigger, nigga in front of their kids.

1443
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 5: They ain't hateful, they ain't They really trying to shield

1444
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 5: them from that world.

1445
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 1: And that's why you have the softened hearts from their

1446
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: children that say we love such as.

1447
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 5: They love Lebron Jane, I love Stephen Kirky, the love

1448
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 5: Travis Scotty, they love little baby because.

1449
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 1: They don' won't even appear hateful to their children. The

1450
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 1: only people that's teaching their children right, so they can

1451
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:04,719
Speaker 1: identify hate as a child.

1452
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 4: There, you say, damn daddy.

1453
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, so yeah, I got my hateful toward white people,

1454
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,679
Speaker 5: and they try to shield it from their black kids, saying,

1455
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,600
Speaker 5: you know, my my daughter went to Schooters and me

1456
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 5: and my dad don't like my stuff. He told the

1457
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 5: white people that, but he don't like white people but

1458
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 5: he didn't want his daughter to know that yet.

1459
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: So oh but nah, home and so that homie, they

1460
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 1: kids don't embrace ya.

1461
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 4: It didn't dawn on me.

1462
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 1: Two years later, was sure, home and they kids is

1463
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:37,560
Speaker 1: coming up in his party. I'm I'm a bridge to

1464
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 1: my homies.

1465
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 5: So they starting to embrace me. But now all of

1466
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 5: a sudden, as they embrace me, I'm going hateful to it. Yeah,

1467
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 5: so uh, I get it. Oh, but you can't get

1468
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 5: it if you hurt.

1469
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 1: And the error he put all his masterful work down

1470
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 1: there is those kids are getting older to where they're

1471
01:12:57,920 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 1: going to be running these.

1472
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 4: Companies and runner, That's what I'm saying. So he damn near,

1473
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 4: he damned there, he damn near blew it making for it.

1474
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 4: They let him come back one time and apologize with

1475
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 4: the Taylor Swift ship Bush hate black people now with

1476
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 4: the things. Remember the first he did.

1477
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 1: Remember the first time he went against him, Uh, they

1478
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:19,759
Speaker 1: shut down everything.

1479
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 4: Then they kind of let him come back a little bit.

1480
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 4: That's when he said it on trade. He apologized again. Yeah,

1481
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 4: it's gonna be hard for him.

1482
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 1: They're gonna let you keep They're gonna let you keep

1483
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 1: doing and letting you back in at the table. It's like,

1484
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 1: and this industry ship is bigger than just you making

1485
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 1: a good shoe, like you need that infrastructure. Maybe he

1486
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:43,600
Speaker 1: can do it global, but dog, I just think he

1487
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 1: was in a position to where he was that close

1488
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 1: to where them old people that he believes has that

1489
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:53,680
Speaker 1: rhetoric and that outlook almost out the door, and you

1490
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 1: got the young fresh like.

1491
01:13:55,400 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 4: With the Lakers, Kanye was on the path to be

1492
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 4: to be a world leader. I believe that he was

1493
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:08,560
Speaker 4: gonna be a world leader. I believe that Yeah, Uh.

1494
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 5: You know, I think a lot, a lot of a

1495
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 5: lot of it has to do with truice of women,

1496
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 5: or he'll strong. He can't have no weak white woman.

1497
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 5: I ain't gonna say that weak, but yeah, he gotta

1498
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 5: have a specific one that he can't control.

1499
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

1500
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 5: And it seemed like he picked women he can control,

1501
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 5: or he have to have one that he honored respect

1502
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 5: enough to.

1503
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 4: Uh. He let her be free to be.

1504
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 5: Her and and she helped him be who he needs

1505
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 5: to be. Uh, because who he is right now ain't

1506
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 5: who he need to be for us.

1507
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 2: Uh.

1508
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know he's supposed to being came back and

1509
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:45,600
Speaker 5: started a tennis you factory with them.

1510
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, if it ain't nothing but a WORDIU producer them.

1511
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 4: You want to talk that talk, come.

1512
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 5: With a products that that eas gonna be way more

1513
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 5: bad than that's diamond swastika.

1514
01:14:57,680 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 4: Spell if you'd have done it right when they canceling,

1515
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,520
Speaker 4: Man Jesus on the sneakers.

1516
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 5: You want to get back at white folks, make a

1517
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 5: prod him, make him clean and make him go n.

1518
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:14,679
Speaker 4: I G G E. Arah. You mean that's way worse

1519
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 4: than that swasa.

1520
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 1: So what what do you so? The swastika chain and

1521
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 1: all of that. You think he kind of here in

1522
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 1: the wheeze.

1523
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 4: Now, Uh, it's it's that's too pitty, so so Sonny Weer,

1524
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 4: that's how you know, it's pity reached.

1525
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:34,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well and that's pitted them. Yeah, thats just pitted

1526
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 1: it them.

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01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 3: Uh.

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01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 5: Now they can write him off as crazy. Yeah, now

1529
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 5: they can write him off as crazy. So uh yeah,

1530
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 5: you know the crazy musical genius.

1531
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, I think I think. So what what do

1532
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: you think the pathway is for him? Now, come on

1533
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 1: back and be again.

1534
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 3: Uh?

1535
01:15:56,920 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 4: He done went to words the white girl that were

1536
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 4: half naked me, you knowing go dress like that? Nigg me.

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01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 5: You can't do no sister, how you've been doing the cocma.

1538
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:09,599
Speaker 4: H he done went. He got to come back and

1539
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:17,799
Speaker 4: be semi nick again. Yeah, Polo, Kanye Rapp, Kanye hit reset,

1540
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, he got.

1541
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 5: Hit and he can do it. Uh yeah, he can

1542
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 5: do it, but he got to come back and play.

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01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 1: I want to talk about to the fact that that

1544
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 1: you were pushing back on the comedy ship at first,

1545
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 1: because I think that's something also that I want people

1546
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 1: to know is that the cook the white boys play

1547
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 1: with that out of time right when they get to

1548
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 1: say in certain things, they can be unpleased and or unpleasant.

1549
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 5: And not not just him, uh, all of them. It

1550
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:51,879
Speaker 5: was I think it was three or four country white boys.

1551
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 5: They was kind of like the Kings of comedy, a

1552
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 5: white comedy. But uh, the cable guy, remember the cable guy,

1553
01:16:58,120 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 5: white boy get her done?

1554
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, and all them fur white boy man.

1555
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 1: They had some of the most controversial comedy and statements

1556
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 1: during the beginning.

1557
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 4: It was during Obama thing.

1558
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:12,799
Speaker 5: Oh they people fanned out over them.

1559
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 4: Oh.

1560
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 5: I didn't know that you can go on stage and

1561
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 5: tell the truth and people laugh.

1562
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:24,640
Speaker 1: I thought the truth hurts, But I didn't know our

1563
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 1: truth hurts so bad that we have to laugh.

1564
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 5: Until I got online and started telling the truth. Some

1565
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 5: people laugh, some people tried to flick a look at

1566
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 5: that boss spot in his head. Them dredged in cause

1567
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 5: nigga that truth all niggas. So I didn't realize how

1568
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 5: powerful the truth was until I got online. So now

1569
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 5: people laughing, and I'm being exalted. I'm fining what you blocked?

1570
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 1: Would just to block so much? Shadow band your pay?

1571
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 1: They thought someone wrong, they stopped letting him block. I

1572
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 1: was in one of the list. One day he blocked.

1573
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 1: They ain't something else. Let me tell you how this

1574
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 1: is crazy.

1575
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 4: Man. This used to have a live and threatened bet

1576
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:15,639
Speaker 4: nobody better not make no comment. Yeah, and that's part

1577
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 4: of the engagement yourself.

1578
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 1: Edytime somebody come me block block, I said, don't nobody

1579
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 1: come me block.

1580
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 5: That's a that's a that's a frustrated community activist. That

1581
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 5: was a frustrated community activist using this social media platform

1582
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 5: the wrong way to come vent. Yeah, to con vent.

1583
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 5: This is not for you to come spill your problems.

1584
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 5: Oh my mama in the hospital, y'all pray for you.

1585
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 5: It ain't for you to come on her on your

1586
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 5: death bed. This is a social networking people on her

1587
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 5: to have fun, flirt, wink at each other.

1588
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 4: I think it used to be a wink, but this

1589
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 4: poke there you go, you poke your yeah, you know

1590
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:02,719
Speaker 4: yeah what we're doing. Yeah, yeah, we used to poke

1591
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 4: with he like, oh yeah, so now home and so

1592
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:10,759
Speaker 4: this was so oh we didn't understand that they baiting

1593
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 4: us on her for free. It's the reason why you

1594
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 4: get on her for free.

1595
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 5: And it wasn't until twenty fourteen that every phone had

1596
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 5: these apps on them, but it was Facebook, YouTube, stall

1597
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 5: some of them come in stall. So that wasn't a

1598
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 5: hint to nobody, it was to me. Then social dilemma.

1599
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 1: Came that changed you when you were I remember when

1600
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 1: you you went on about six months.

1601
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 4: I think I went live.

1602
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 5: I think I went live showing things about it, and

1603
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 5: you would reference it.

1604
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's how you know when one of us

1605
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 1: got some new information, because our next three four interviews

1606
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:51,599
Speaker 1: or next three four months, you will hear us reference

1607
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 1: why you.

1608
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 5: Think you why you think you hear So many black

1609
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:55,440
Speaker 5: women use the word narcissistic.

1610
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 4: Now narcissism.

1611
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 1: It's a new word exactly that they all of a sudden,

1612
01:19:58,400 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 1: they wasn't using it five years ago.

1613
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1614
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 5: Uh so that that movie taught me, Okay, you can

1615
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 5: make money on here, how tough. That's what planned to

1616
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 5: see them because I'm saying, they say, companies just sending

1617
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 5: all this money over here for advertisement, this and that.

1618
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 4: Uh, how you make money?

1619
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 5: Right, And that's that's what started me now in this

1620
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 5: rabbit hole, and nobody knew, I'm everybody how you make money.

1621
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:33,760
Speaker 4: Nobody knew. Nobody knew about Google absence.

1622
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 1: It ain't YouTube, and you been it from your town.

1623
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 1: The rappers from your town were so slow hand. Paton

1624
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 1: Films had all that ship free. Yeah, he was the

1625
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 1: only kind of knew and he wasn't in that game.

1626
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 4: He wasn't even moneytime.

1627
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 2: What