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Speaker 3: This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 3: World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church,

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Speaker 3: Hecma Harrison, and Newie Scruggs.

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Speaker 2: Here we are. It is regular season time. Here we go.

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Speaker 4: Players Lounge from the WBC podcast studio at Sir Star

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Speaker 4: in frisk Go, Texas, Texas, Texas, Texas.

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Speaker 2: Season is here, Ladies and gentlemen, No more.

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Speaker 4: Ota men a camp all art SNAr preseason. Regular season

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Speaker 4: is here. It's time to get busy. It casts for real.

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Speaker 4: This is where the Ducats All Matter and the Dallas

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Speaker 4: Cowboys are heading to Cleveland, Ohio, going to the land

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Speaker 4: to go get it on against the Cleveland Browns. And

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Speaker 4: don't go on it this time. When I go back

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Speaker 4: and I'm in the parking lot, They're not gonna say

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Speaker 4: OL's back.

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Speaker 2: They did you like that?

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Speaker 4: They thought I was our roker. That's December ninety four,

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Speaker 4: December ninety four of the first Browns game. I'm in

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Speaker 4: the parking lot. They thought I was al roker. Some

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Speaker 4: brother needed to get on the diet.

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Speaker 2: What you got from that, man, I got.

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna do no laughing brother, it's funny the

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Speaker 5: last I can laugh at it.

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Speaker 4: So our used to work at the NBC in Cleveland

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Speaker 4: before he went to Today's show. So they thought Al

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Speaker 4: Roker was back and doing it in the park in the.

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Speaker 2: In the tail ours back.

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Speaker 6: I got, how did you you just kind of like

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Speaker 6: just laughing off or it was it was just work.

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Speaker 2: Did you wave back like you what's up? Brother? You're

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Speaker 2: just taking it, just take it in, taking it, taking it.

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Speaker 2: So I'm coming. I'll be back in the parking lot.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna see if things have changed. They're gonna say

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Speaker 2: they go ahead, that never happened. That wait till half.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't look too good for that. Hey, hey, I

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Speaker 2: know some people that would to disagree with you. Oh that. Hey,

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Speaker 2: we can go forward. We can go forward to Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: We got going on here.

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Speaker 4: We got going Cowboys are two point underdogs in this

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Speaker 4: game against these Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: A lot of work to a lot of work to

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Speaker 4: So we as the week goes on, we got a

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Speaker 4: lot of things we got to dive into. We'll make

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Speaker 4: our predictions for the record for the division winners for

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Speaker 4: a touchdown, pa, I can't wait to hear it. Got

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Speaker 4: a whole lot we'll get fits the player of the year.

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Speaker 4: How many yards was the cab? We go a whole

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Speaker 4: lot to get to this week, But first let us

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Speaker 4: start with the quarterback Number four, four Rain Dakota Prescott.

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Speaker 4: Jerry said when he spoke to the media last week,

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Speaker 4: right after he showed us the Texas Lotto scratch off game,

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Speaker 4: the Cowboy fans can win, got a free one. They

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Speaker 4: still need to go scratch it off. I hadn't done

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Speaker 4: it yet. Don't look for a deal for dak Prescott

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Speaker 4: before the season started, so we basically said so we

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Speaker 4: would not, And then Clarence Clarence Ill tweeted it out,

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Speaker 4: wrote a story about on his new website, don't look

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Speaker 4: for a dak deal. So I'm not looking for number

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Speaker 4: four contract because the owner basically said it. Clarence wrote it,

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Speaker 4: I've seen no indication that number four is walking through

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Speaker 6: You good with that if I'm the organization, No, you know,

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Speaker 6: I'm not good with that because I feel like, you know,

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Speaker 6: you know, the price is just gonna go higher. But

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Speaker 6: if I'm Dak Prescott, I'm looking at it like, hey man,

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Speaker 6: you know, why would I go go ahead and sign now?

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Speaker 6: If I'm looking for him. I mean, of course you

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Speaker 6: I believe, no matter what happens this season, you know, injury,

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Speaker 6: he's still gonna be the top, you know, paid player

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Speaker 6: if I'm Dak Prescott, you know I feel like if

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Speaker 6: you signed earlier, you're gonna leave some ducats on the table.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, I understand, he's, you know, team guy.

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Speaker 4: He wants to get it done. I understand all that.

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Speaker 6: But for me, I believe if he wants to wait

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Speaker 2: So if I'm Dak Prescott, you know I'm not in

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Speaker 4: All right, Cowboy safety Barry Church is spoken. Heck ma

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Speaker 5: Just well, I just feel like leverage plays into and

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Speaker 5: I think that's what you're talking about, you know, the

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Speaker 5: levers that he has, and whether it plays out in

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Speaker 5: his favor if he waits, so he signs it now.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't make any sense for the Dallas Cowboys to

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Speaker 2: That's just two things that don't go together.

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Speaker 5: Maybe I'm talking common sense, but I'm just basically saying

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Speaker 2: But look, here's the deal. I would expect.

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Speaker 5: My thing is I would expect for them to be

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Speaker 5: The narrative will start to rewrite itself each and every game.

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Speaker 5: And look at the beginning of this season, you got

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Speaker 5: as you say, that, gonna get his money no matter what.

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Speaker 5: All right, But what if he is abysmal in this

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Speaker 2: And you know, I.

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Speaker 5: Think, I think all of those things are gonna start

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Speaker 5: And so that's gonna be to me the one thing

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Speaker 5: you get him done. You already know he's your quarterback

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Speaker 5: for the future. So any way that those narratives go,

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Speaker 5: it's not going to change, especially in the media on

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Speaker 2: But if you're the player, what would you do with this?

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Speaker 6: That's you know, I understand what you're saying organizational wise,

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Speaker 6: all right, man, let's get this thing done. Or I

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Speaker 2: I think they broke him off. You know, he's made

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Speaker 5: The expectations have always been high, and he's flown somewhere

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Speaker 5: under that with only two playoff wins. But he's in

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Speaker 5: a good predicament here in Dallas, and that's that's just

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 5: If he feels like he can get sixty five million

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Speaker 2: That's fine.

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Speaker 5: I completely understand that. Also, but I think the Cowboys

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Speaker 5: I don't think anything changes as far as that, but

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Speaker 5: I think getting it getting it done now, to at

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Speaker 5: least not have that be over your head the entire

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Speaker 5: season should work best for him, because that's one less

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Speaker 4: What do players say in the locker room when they

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Speaker 6: Well, when you're in the guy like Dak's position, you know,

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Speaker 6: everybody in that locker room respects him.

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Speaker 2: He's one of the captains.

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Speaker 6: So when you look at a guy like that, you

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Speaker 6: as it can for Dak. You're not really looking at,

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Speaker 6: you know, organizational wise, if we get him done, we

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Speaker 6: want this to work out for Dak, whatever way that happens.

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Speaker 6: If it's you know, three years at this amount, four

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Speaker 6: just want that thing to work out for Dak. For

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Speaker 6: those guys in the.

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Speaker 4: Locker room, he basically came out, he said, it speaks

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Speaker 4: volumes that it's not done.

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Speaker 2: So what's that done for?

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Speaker 4: It speaks volumes.

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Speaker 5: Look this argument. What I've discovered about this argument with Dak,

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Speaker 5: it's twofold. Like you hear people in the media saying,

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Speaker 5: you know, Dak is not an elite quarterback, but he

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Speaker 5: deserves sixty five million dollars.

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Speaker 2: You look at per year, all right.

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Speaker 5: You look at the guys that have signed those the

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Speaker 5: And so the argument with Dak always goes back and forth.

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Speaker 5: And like you talked about from from a locker room perspective,

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Speaker 5: there's nobody that those fifty three fifty two guys respect

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Speaker 5: And it is just that you're a cowboy hater or

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Speaker 5: whatever it is. But you can't take away from the

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Speaker 5: numbers that say he has been amongst the elite and

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Speaker 5: deserve to be paid according to that, and.

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Speaker 6: He's the next guy up. I mean, look, I mean

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Speaker 6: it worked out that way. You know, Trevor was a

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Speaker 2: He has man thatk has done more in this league

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Speaker 2: for a longer period of time. He's the next man up.

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Speaker 2: He's it's time to get broken off. That's just how

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Speaker 4: Kyler Murray got forty six million. That got forty and

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Speaker 4: then they put the man clause in the contract.

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Speaker 5: Got the sticks, his Xbox on lock, give me the

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Speaker 5: code to the box.

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Speaker 2: We need you to.

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Speaker 4: Actually take that iPad and open it. I mean, but

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Speaker 4: that says something you're not asking. You're not hearing that

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Speaker 4: about Dax. So, but when when people talk about elite,

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Speaker 4: so what what I've always found amazing amongst fans is

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Speaker 4: they want guys to quote unquote prove it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's just good.

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Speaker 4: That's not how this business works because if people had

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Speaker 4: to prove and win super Bowls and get the Super Bowls,

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Speaker 4: then people would not be paid. Justin Herbert would not

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Speaker 4: not have his money. Guys, guys, sap. That's not how

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Speaker 4: this This is not how this thing works. Okay, there's

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Speaker 4: this is a marketplace, and the marketplace is what you

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Speaker 4: and your agent can negotiate. Oh, by the way, what

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Speaker 4: Rider about running backs after age twenty eight.

442
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Speaker 2: It was bad, ain't very good.

443
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Speaker 5: Yeah, he got some factual, some factual knowledge and statistics

444
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 5: document about twenty eight year old running backs in the NFL.

445
00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,679
Speaker 5: Another way to downgrade the position. The picture of Elliott

446
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 5: was right there.

447
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,440
Speaker 4: I the poster child for so he's just basically going

448
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,679
Speaker 4: down to twenty eight. He just basically said, you know,

449
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 4: don't expect anythings like it's not gonna happen. The names

450
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 4: and everything else he listed with about the Jim Browns

451
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,639
Speaker 4: of the world. Jim left and ended up leaving the

452
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 4: game with EMMITTT. Smith, you know outside of an Adrian Peterson.

453
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Speaker 2: Which is a one way Yeah, you know it is sure.

454
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Speaker 5: Yeah, So, I mean Emmitt had eleven thousand yards seasons.

455
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Speaker 5: Am I mistaken and he included Emmitt in and House

456
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Speaker 5: so saying that.

457
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Speaker 4: Looking at the numbers after twenty eight trying to see

458
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Speaker 4: where where you were going to and so, and one

459
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Speaker 4: of the premises looking at Ezekiel Ell it is to

460
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 4: say twenty sixteen z can't coming through that door. You don't.

461
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Speaker 4: Don't look for that player and any running back and

462
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 4: so Dalvin Cooked the same thing. Just don't look for

463
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Speaker 4: these guys that were the Pro Bowl players that you know,

464
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 4: became household names at the position. Not going to happen.

465
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Speaker 6: Yeah, And to me it's a little concerning when you

466
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Speaker 6: look at this running back room.

467
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Speaker 2: Now.

468
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Speaker 6: You know, I'm not expecting, like you said, twenty sixteen

469
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Speaker 6: Zeke or you know, twenty eighteen Cook or whenever he

470
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,199
Speaker 6: was with the Vikings. I'm not expecting those guys to

471
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Speaker 6: do much. But to me, what makes it concerning is

472
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Speaker 6: if we look at it, if you don't have a

473
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Speaker 6: balance attack offensively, and you're the Cowboys, I mean, we've

474
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Speaker 6: seen what happens when you know, Prescott got to throw

475
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Speaker 6: the ball forty thirty five forty plus times. You know,

476
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Speaker 6: the record is just not you know, as good as

477
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Speaker 6: it is when they have that balance attack and when

478
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Speaker 6: I look at the backfield, Yes, you got some guys

479
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Speaker 6: that can protect the quarterback, that can pick up some glizzes.

480
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Speaker 6: But you know, do you have a guy that's dynamic

481
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Speaker 6: out of the backfield. You got a guy that you

482
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Speaker 6: can throw a screen too, and maybe he can take it,

483
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Speaker 6: you know, fifty forty yards, whatever the case may be.

484
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Speaker 6: To me, when I look back there, I mean, you

485
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Speaker 6: got some guys that are great in short yarded situation,

486
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Speaker 6: can punch the ball into the goal line, which they

487
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 6: did struggle with last year. But they can punch the

488
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 6: ball into the goal line or maybe pick you up

489
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 6: a third and two, third and three, but more than

490
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Speaker 6: likely it's gonna be three yards in.

491
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Speaker 2: A cloud of dust.

492
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Speaker 6: And if that keeps the defense honest and cool, I'm

493
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Speaker 6: okay with it. But I just don't see teams after

494
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Speaker 6: the first couple of weeks saying, man, we got to

495
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 6: respect this run. We got to have an extra guy

496
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Speaker 6: in the box to make sure that Zeke doesn't pop

497
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 6: a big one or Cooker, you know, daw will pops

498
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 6: a big one. I think a lot of defenses are

499
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 6: going to play the Cowboys, you know, top to bottom,

500
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 6: they're gonna have a lot of guys in the secondary

501
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 6: fogging up those windows because they feel like they can

502
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Speaker 6: stop the run with those light boxes. Now it's up

503
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 6: to Zeke and those boys didn't prove prove the defense

504
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 6: is wrong. But to me, it's slightly concerning because when

505
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Speaker 6: you look at the numbers, I mean, thirty five plus

506
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Speaker 6: passing attempts for Prescott.

507
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Speaker 2: It's just it's not that good.

508
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Speaker 5: And that's I think wise, yeah, record, that's what you

509
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 5: what you just pointed out, I think is where my

510
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 5: concern is is in the type of how do you

511
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 5: scheme it up to stop the run and how do

512
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 5: you scheme it up to stop the pass? You know

513
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 5: what Ceedee Lamb is gonna do, and I guess we'll

514
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 5: talk about it this week. You know what what can

515
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 5: be his ceiling? Ceedee Lamb's ceiling this this year. And

516
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 5: if you just go back to last year, the Dallas

517
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 5: Cowboys did were not effective in their running game, but

518
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Speaker 5: yet they led the league in points.

519
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 2: And so it's conflict.

520
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Speaker 5: Like the conflict in that argument is you've shown you

521
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 5: have time, roof and consistency that look, we can still

522
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 5: get it done offensively without this running game that you

523
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 5: think will only consist in three years in cloud of dust,

524
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 5: because that's what Tony Pollard averaged last season as a

525
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 5: running back. So look, fifty nine yards a game will

526
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 5: give you a thousand yards as a rusher, right, And

527
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 5: so our expectation of this running back room is a

528
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 5: running back pot committee. We're gonna get a different piece

529
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 5: from each one of those dudes. And that's why we

530
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 5: talked about Dalvin Cook at length when we signed him.

531
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Speaker 5: What can he add to this that Rico Dado can't

532
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 5: add to this and Ezekiel Elliott can add. I mean,

533
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 5: you go red zone, you go protection, you go breaking

534
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 5: off those zone runs, and the whole thing is about

535
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 5: making those defenses sit at bay because, as you know,

536
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 5: as a safety, if we can toy with you bring

537
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 5: guys to the line of scrimmage and then bel out

538
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 5: at the last minute trying to fog up those windows

539
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 5: as you're talking about, I can make life difficult for

540
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 5: you all day long. But that's what they did all year,

541
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Speaker 5: all season last year, you know, And so Dak was

542
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 5: still had that success. And I think that in Mike

543
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Speaker 5: McCarthy's second season as an offen as a coordinator, calling

544
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 5: as a play caller, you'll see a lot more of that,

545
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 5: and then I still think you'll be able to mix

546
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 5: it in even with some of those runs from your

547
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 5: wide receiver also, So that's what I'm looking That's what

548
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 5: I'm looking for. They're going to have to be very

549
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 5: creative in the run this season.

550
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Speaker 2: So when you talk.

551
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Speaker 4: About the points and how many they scored a lot

552
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Speaker 4: of points, but then we also know, yeah, you ran

553
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 4: up on the Giants, but what do you do against

554
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 4: the Bills and what kind of points were you putting

555
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 4: up against the night That was kind of the thing

556
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 4: las year when people talked about the Cowboys say, hey, look,

557
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 4: you know they're getting fat against bad teams, run up

558
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 4: on the Jets, but what are you doing against the

559
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 4: good teams? That's kind of been that mo for the

560
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 4: cow was really the last two years of just what

561
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Speaker 4: they've been able to do. Here's a little bit for

562
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Speaker 4: Rick goslin Broke. He says, there are talking about running

563
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Speaker 4: backs at the age of twenty eight going downhill. He

564
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Speaker 4: says there are exceptions, of course, Essentially the Hall of

565
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 4: Fame quality runners like John Reagan's and John Henry Johnson

566
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 4: managed one thousand yard rushing seasons at the age of

567
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Speaker 4: thirty five, Franco Harrison Adrian Peterson rush for their final

568
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Speaker 4: one thousand yard seasons at thirty three, Sam Smith and

569
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 4: Walter Payton gained their final one thousand yards at thirty two.

570
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 4: Tony dor Set Curtis Martin posted their final one thousand

571
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Speaker 4: yard seasons at thirty one, and Barry Sanders and Thurman

572
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 4: Thomas did it for the final time at thirty. Hall

573
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 4: of famers Jim Brown, O. J. Simpson, Eric Dickerson, Jim Taylor,

574
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 4: Ladanion Thomas and Egrin James, Floyd Little and Jerome Bettis

575
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 4: all rushed for one thousand yards at the age of

576
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 4: twenty nine and never again. And the same thing with

577
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 4: pass rushing champions Jamal Lewis and Lashaw McCoy did it

578
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 4: at twenty nine and never did it again. Hall of

579
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 4: Famer Earl Campbell Marshall Fault rushed for one thousand yards

580
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 4: at the age of twenty eight, as did their past

581
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 4: NFL rushing champion George Rogers, Shawn Alexander, Chris Johnson, DeMarco

582
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 4: Murray none ever hit one thousand yards again. The same

583
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 4: with Marshawn Lynch twenty eight and never again.

584
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Speaker 5: Never say nothing, No, I got you. Yeah, those are

585
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 5: a bunch of great names. First of all, I mean,

586
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 5: look at who you're talking about. You're not talking about

587
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 5: just running the mill running backs. You're talking about guys

588
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 5: who did it at a high level in this game,

589
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 5: and everybody respect when you bring up their name, and

590
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 5: so look it's I don't, I don't. My expectation for

591
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 5: Ezekiel Elliott is not a thousand yards this season. I

592
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 5: think my expectation comes down to three guys being able

593
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 5: to pull all the way. And then there may be

594
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 5: matchups where you say, I can exploit this matchup with

595
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 5: this running back because of this running style, and that's

596
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 5: because you have three of them.

597
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 4: Now, is that gonna be advantageous in the future, I

598
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 4: don't think.

599
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 2: So.

600
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Speaker 5: You're gonna have to finally find a guy that's gonna

601
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 5: be your bell cal running back.

602
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 2: But it's gonna be by committee. This season.

603
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 5: We keep saying it, I mean, and they keep proving

604
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 5: that that's what they're gonna come out with.

605
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Speaker 6: And my only thing is, you know, when you look

606
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 6: at these running backs, they're all extremely similar. I mean,

607
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 6: you have three different backs, but do you have a

608
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 6: guy that's dynamic outside of you know, in between the tackles,

609
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 6: like Dalvin cookies it in between the tackles, Zeke, in

610
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 6: between the tackle?

611
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 2: What would you what would you call dat?

612
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 5: But you know what you said that before and not

613
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 5: in the I didn't disagree with the first time you

614
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 5: say it. But I just don't see Zeke and Dalvin

615
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 5: as the same guy. I think Dalvin has a little

616
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 5: bit more speed on the edge then I would see Zeke.

617
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 2: You know, I separate them, but tough inside runner.

618
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 5: I mean, I think I agree, but I see two

619
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 5: different guys when I think of Dalvin Cook and Ezekiel Elliott.

620
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: You know, who would you say.

621
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 4: Has more more yards against the Browns, more total yards

622
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Speaker 4: against the Browns?

623
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 5: Dalvin Cook or without knowing that I'm gonna take Zeke. Yeah,

624
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 5: I haven't got a got.

625
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 6: I'm not sure Cook is gonna play much that I'm

626
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 6: gonna go Zeke, though.

627
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: Who is it? Give me cook?

628
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 4: Hmhmm, give me some cook.

629
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Speaker 2: He's cooking, be active, that's it. I don't know if

630
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: he's If he is, you feel like, okay, look cook man,

631
00:28:52,800 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this guy, this guy handsome, I let's

632
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 2: go ye, It's all good. I mean, I just you

633
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

634
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 4: That's one where time proofing consistency. He knows the offense

635
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 4: might trust himself right out of the gate. You know

636
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 4: you go with I would say you would go with

637
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 4: somebody that you trust and know, and then Dalvin's got

638
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 4: to go ahead and start to prove himself a little

639
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 4: bit here.

640
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 5: You're missed, dude, what is gonna don't.

641
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 4: Don't don't sleep on sleep on My God. I'm sorry,

642
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 4: I'm holding I'm holding it back. I want expectations from

643
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 4: you from Hunter Lipkey.

644
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: Well want game one?

645
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 5: Yeah?

646
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: What you got Yeah, buggie shuffle. We're gonna be out there.

647
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 2: You number one on the fan club the president.

648
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 4: Look simply say this. Don't be surprised that the man

649
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 4: make the probo.

650
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 2: Ducked. So whether it's Game one work works, just be

651
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 2: clucking yes this man. Don't let Kyle get hurt. We

652
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: got well. I'm telling you new Strug the ill Illes.

653
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 4: I remember being laughed at on this podcast several times

654
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 4: over things.

655
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 2: This is different.

656
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 5: This is different, this, this is different different, This is differently,

657
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 5: this is different.

658
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Speaker 2: Week one we got it. Week one OL Boogie.

659
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Speaker 4: Week one OL Boogie gives some time, a little bit

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Speaker 4: all but he's gonna play. He's gonna play.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna play. That's what That's what we got.

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Speaker 4: Right I mean, right now, right now, I'm scared for

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Speaker 4: I'm worried about this team right now. Tell you, right now,

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Speaker 4: I am worried for it. Yes, heck, I am worried

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Speaker 4: from the offensive line from up both lines, D line. Okay,

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Speaker 4: let's take a break getting this run defense. I'm not

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Speaker 4: feeling good about this. I'm not feeling good, and I

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Speaker 2: So you get the snickers.

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Speaker 4: That was too much of a pregnant fall. So let

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Speaker 4: me know right now on the record that I am

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Speaker 4: not only believing in Hunter Lipkey. Yes, this man.

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Speaker 2: Might make the Pro Bowl. No, no, no, Kyle checking

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Speaker 2: is hurt.

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Speaker 5: Were talking about some bites now, man, Okay, if believe it,

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Speaker 5: I believe, Throw your sleeves up so I can see

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Speaker 5: how much hoping you've been on.

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Speaker 4: Mike ain't going down without his full back like John

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Speaker 4: Coop may MAKEE John come the same thing.

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Speaker 13: Man.

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Speaker 2: Let's just say, get his opportunities. Get his opportunity gonna

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Speaker 2: be up in there he might make it. You was.

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Speaker 2: I still believe. I believe. I believe.

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Speaker 4: I believe, like I believed that Joe Burrow was better

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Speaker 4: than Justin Herbert, and I was right.

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Speaker 2: But you us back behind you on that one. You

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Speaker 2: fought me in Burrow way to the super Bowl. So

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Speaker 2: I a pro bowler or that I told you? Answer

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Speaker 2: the question how many week one won't give us the week?

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Speaker 2: This is you? This is your cod defended, right, Chris.

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Speaker 2: How many Pro Bowl fullbacks do they take?

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Speaker 11: One?

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Speaker 2: Or two? One? One? Okay? If it's just one, it

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Speaker 2: will be Kyle Houston. He ain't going right now, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: The super Bowls, in the super Bowls, in the super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: and it's not if caylus check is in the super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Don't know. It don't work like that. It don't work

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Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 4: Because because we know this reputation thing works for people.

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Speaker 4: You know, like it's gonna be hard to replace that mark.

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Speaker 4: You know this, You know that the thing you're hard

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Speaker 4: up in here you could be deserving, but the reputations

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Speaker 4: get there. So so I do have that as a

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Speaker 4: legitimate thing. But I'm just telling you, man, Mike McCarthy,

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Speaker 4: another Pro Bowl, I feelix you too, just telling you that,

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Speaker 4: I mean.

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Speaker 8: Not all teams have a fullback on the rosters exactly.

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Speaker 5: I'm just like, he's playing, thank you, Chris, You Chris

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Speaker 5: playing the numbers.

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Speaker 2: He knows what, Chris.

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Speaker 5: There's only one other fullback in the now limited compass.

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Speaker 2: That's who he's competing off. Listen. He's not walking out

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Speaker 2: on the limb on this one at all. That's what said.

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Speaker 4: If Cayle is hurt, he's your man's straight in. The

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Speaker 4: other guy that do it. This is the guy you

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Speaker 4: go with carries on the year.

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Speaker 5: Look at the end of the day, at the end

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Speaker 5: of the day, if L Buggie has success, what does

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Speaker 5: that mean? That means team success. So I'm gonna go

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Speaker 5: with that, all right. But I just I'm not going

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Speaker 5: with what no no, no, no, no no whoa whoa, whoa No,

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Speaker 5: that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying, I'm good,

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Speaker 5: I'm off, I'm off. I'll be back on on Sunday. Yeah, Tack, Yes,

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna do it. It's not gonna happen. Come

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Speaker 5: this way, I got I got my other fixes over here. Man,

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Speaker 5: let's get into him up the middle.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, so the twenty hold a lucky running

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Speaker 4: past the safety.

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Speaker 2: All this laughing and snickering. Okay, thirty eight p m. Laughter,

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Speaker 2: let's go. Let's go take carries this game? What baby?

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Speaker 4: Okay be signed by Look.

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Speaker 2: Okay, brash Honda left me. Oh my god, turn on five,

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Speaker 2: he said, They laughing. I've never seen speed tear the

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Speaker 2: ankles up. Man. Man, now they happening. Man, it's all good.

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Speaker 2: He lift you okay, man, good, that's somebody that run defense.

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Speaker 2: You sold, Joseph, Yeah, I think you gotte.

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Speaker 5: You have to get an answer for Mozzie Smith immediately

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Speaker 5: as far as a rotational piece, and I think Linvell

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Speaker 5: lin Valt Joseph is going to fall into that nicely.

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Speaker 5: At least I hope he does. At least I hope

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Speaker 5: you at least look, no need Look, this is what

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Speaker 5: I need. This is what I need from Joseph. I

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Speaker 5: only need him to be a two gap. Plug him up. Okay,

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Speaker 5: let my man Eric Kendricks run sideline. The sideline. The

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Speaker 5: way that this defense works is when your linebackers can

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Speaker 5: get down here.

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Speaker 2: That's it. Okay.

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Speaker 5: And if Mozzie Smith cannot hold that for four quarters,

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Speaker 5: at least now you have a piece in and that's

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Speaker 5: why you bring in the other guy, Phillips. Also, Phillips

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Speaker 5: is known one but also better known as a three.

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Speaker 5: But you got really now three legitimate one techniques that

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Speaker 5: you can rotate in and out. You gotta stop the run,

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Speaker 5: you know, first of all, Cleveland's first game, you're gonna

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Speaker 5: have to stop the run. No matter who Stefanski has

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Speaker 5: back that he's gonna give you a healthy dose of

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Speaker 5: that running back.

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Speaker 4: So how many players do you think lyn Bell Joseph's

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Speaker 4: gonna give me.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with legit.

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Speaker 5: I think he could give you at least ten, and

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Speaker 5: that's gonna be enough to.

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Speaker 2: Run the ball.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, look, I against the team's gonna run and throw

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Speaker 5: the ball. I'm telling you ten.

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Speaker 4: They running thirty times, at least thirty.

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Speaker 5: So, like I said, I put Phillips in there as well.

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Speaker 5: I put Zsi Smith in there as well. I'm not

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Speaker 5: asking for this guy to go out there and play

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Speaker 5: twenty snaps.

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Speaker 2: Would you asked Linval Joseph to give you.

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Speaker 6: That's what I'm worried, because if Limbal could give you

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Speaker 6: at least fifteen.

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Speaker 2: You might have a slight chance. But I just don't

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Speaker 2: see limval giving you.

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Speaker 6: Maybe maybe maybe he gives you eight snaps, but four

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Speaker 6: team the ball team that's gonna run the ball at

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Speaker 6: least thirty something. Even if this was midway through the

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Speaker 6: season and he was ramped up and ready to go,

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Speaker 6: all right, maybe, but to start the season off, you know,

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Speaker 6: age thirty six, you know ten, ten fifty.

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Speaker 5: Man, I really thought that was being conservative and that

845
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Speaker 5: was that was gonna go overwhelm.

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Speaker 2: I really did.

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Speaker 5: I really I misjudged that one because I had that

848
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Speaker 5: I thought that was pretty good to.

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Speaker 2: Say that he would be training camp, like, yeah.

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Speaker 4: He gonna come into Where did they put the oxygen outside?

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Speaker 2: Oh it's right behind it, right the tank, right behind

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Speaker 2: the bench. Yeah, reach around. Not sure. I do livall

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Speaker 2: like that, man, Do not don't do him like that. Man,

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, has he had a training camp? Was

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Speaker 2: he He was not? Because he wasn't with Dallas danking that's.

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Speaker 13: Ball.

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Speaker 2: I got oxygen tap is helping.

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Speaker 5: If no, no in there, Hey, don't don't get him

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Speaker 5: in there. No quick offense does nothing bring him my

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Speaker 5: call of time. I get him off the field. Come on,

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Speaker 5: ten snaps, ten I got ten, I got ten for

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Speaker 5: the big fella, because hey, Mozzi man, nobody, nobody has a.

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Speaker 2: Hotter seat than Mozzi Smith.

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Speaker 5: Right, nobody has a hotter seat than Mozzi Smith.

865
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Speaker 2: And he has to show you.

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Speaker 5: And so he's going to give you a full simple size.

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Speaker 5: I love to get a full sample size for you

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Speaker 5: to be able to make a judgment on whether he

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Speaker 5: could do this job or not. And so I'm not

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Speaker 5: asking for the linval Joseph to be a major piece

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Speaker 5: in this defense.

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Speaker 2: The piece it got to be Kendricks. You mentioned it.

873
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Speaker 2: He's got to be that guy. And the only thing

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Speaker 2: that I worry about with Kendrick can he do that

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Speaker 2: for you know, eight games?

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Speaker 6: Sure, he could be one of the best linebackers in

877
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Speaker 6: the National Football League for eight games, But as we've

878
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 6: seen these past couple of years, does he have a

879
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 6: durability to go seventeen?

880
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Speaker 2: And we all understand the season is a long season.

881
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Speaker 13: Not a tall guy either, never has been in locker room. Yeah,

882
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 13: but if he's out there, you know Clark.

883
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Speaker 4: Is Yeah, So tennaps, ten snaps for Joseph.

884
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Speaker 5: What you got, Phillips, that man, you're asking the mighty lie.

885
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go ten for him too.

886
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 2: That's that's twenty twenty twenty aging snaps.

887
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's twenty right there. Mozzie gotta give me twenty.

888
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 5: Mozzie gotta come on now, y'all. Listen, y'all, he's your

889
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 5: first round drift pick. What are you gonna throw them away?

890
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: You can't do?

891
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 5: Come on now, at least you gotta show you at

892
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 5: least a flash or something. We've been we've been talking

893
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 5: about this rotation since the beginning, and we knew that

894
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Speaker 5: we had to just comb other rosters to find somebody

895
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 5: to come in here and back this guy up. We

896
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 5: didn't feel like we had it on this roster previous.

897
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Speaker 5: So you get lin Val Joseph in here, and my

898
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 5: question is what kind of what kind of impact can

899
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 5: lin Val Joseph have on Mazzie Smith if nothing else?

900
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 5: If nothing else, because we got we gotta have a

901
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 5: run stuffer, otherwise we just running back what we did

902
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 5: last season.

903
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, better hope the turnovers are coming. Oh that's cosmetic.

904
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Speaker 5: All that's cosmetic, because if you're not getting turnovers and

905
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,439
Speaker 5: you're not getting sacks, then what you're just the average defense? Right,

906
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Speaker 5: And so we can't we can't. We can't have that part.

907
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 5: What we have to do is stop the run. That's

908
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Speaker 5: why you brought in Mike Zimmer as a defensive coordinator

909
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 5: to stop the run, because that's his in moom.

910
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Speaker 4: Ain't a magician. Got needs some help. Right now, we'll

911
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Speaker 4: see what the reinforcements do. So we'll continue this as

912
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Speaker 4: we go forward. This week Cowboys Browns Game one in Cleveland,

913
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Speaker 4: Ohioick I forgot cool, I forgot about and they got

914
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Speaker 4: the guy from.

915
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Speaker 5: Denver, right, Jerry, Jerry Judy. They got Jerry Judy. Yeah,

916
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 5: they got some there they got in Alabama.

917
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Speaker 2: No, it was over the.

918
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 5: Cook and Joe cool. Squad got a squad defense.

919
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 4: To all that, you're still picking the Cowboys? Come fright, man,

920
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 4: come on, be interesting.

921
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Speaker 2: Come on, who you picking? Who you picking? That's I

922
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 2: want to know. You're pretty honest. Now you're picking the Cowboys.

923
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: You pick it.

924
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 5: I can see it on you now, a loud of yourself.

925
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 5: You already put you well, you didn't put your picks

926
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Speaker 5: out there like that.

927
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Speaker 2: You just put.

928
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Speaker 5: Overall I gotta do. Oh you could play a rec

929
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 5: that's the thing. Are we going to go game? But

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Speaker 5: when we pick, are we gonna do like we did

931
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Speaker 5: last year. Game the pick, Yeah, the pin gotta be in.

932
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Speaker 2: With Chris Beane. You had Chris Bean last year. Put

933
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Speaker 2: that on me. Chris Bean was here.

934
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Speaker 5: Last But I'm saying we're gonna do the same thing

935
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Speaker 5: that we did last year. We went through the season

936
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Speaker 5: and we picked every game. So then you can't whatever

937
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Speaker 5: you want to have that record. I'm just saying, I

938
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Speaker 5: don't want you to be able to fudge on that.

939
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Speaker 5: I don't want you to be whatever makes you feel okay,

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Speaker 5: I mean, I go either way.

941
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Speaker 2: You said we go for it.

942
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Speaker 4: You got seventeen sixteen sixteen.

943
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Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna have a good season, y'all. We're gonna

944
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 5: have look at what this is. My man, my man,

945
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Speaker 5: let's come there there, y'all.

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Speaker 2: Out of this tomorrow. Missy's affordable.

947
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Speaker 4: It's tomorrow to be at a simple time right here

948
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Speaker 4: playing side way.

949
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Speaker 2: Heckmy Harrison, Mary Church, I knew he strugg goodbye.

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