Speaker 1: I with Alexi Napola and Marisol Patton, an iHeartRadio podcast.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but on the East Coast it's one o'club.
Speaker 2: No, that's ours West coast. I had too many copies.
Speaker 1: I don't know a coast s'mon anymore.
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Speaker 1: We're very good at having fun, aren't we. And we're
Speaker 1: excellent and having fun. I'm also very excellent relaxing. If
Speaker 1: I could get paid for relaxing, i'd be a gazillionaire.
Speaker 2: I need to learn from you, my friend, because I
Speaker 2: am the opposite of the Oh.
Speaker 1: I wish I was more like you, though. I wish
Speaker 1: I would get up, run around and get in my car.
Speaker 1: I want to go see the day. I want to
Speaker 1: seize the sofa and I remember, like I only really.
Speaker 2: Sit down when I'm so exhausted, like at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, or not eat. I'm not out, yeah,
Speaker 2: but well not, I'm just if you.
Speaker 1: Lay around and off, you'll feel exhausted, because it's something
Speaker 1: about relaxing that makes you even more exhausted than if
Speaker 1: you went out and did a million things.
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of exhausting, how was your weekend, because I
Speaker 2: don't think that I saw you at any event for
Speaker 2: swim week this weekend. Oh no, not that I was there.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I was in Orlando. No, not Orlando.
Speaker 2: Sorry, what is moment? All right?
Speaker 1: Guys? Alexi and I we were at a very sad
Speaker 1: memorial but after that we were so sad. We had
Speaker 1: a lot of drinks and now I'm here and I
Speaker 1: can't get my thoughts together. We had a cocky lunch
Speaker 1: and it was really great because I love when we
Speaker 1: hang out and have time together.
Speaker 2: We should be doing this every every week when we're taping.
Speaker 1: We're like, we're going to but you live kind of far.
Speaker 1: We live far from each other.
Speaker 2: But whenever we do have that opportunity, we take advantage
Speaker 2: of it and we record together. We record too much.
Speaker 1: Fun, so much better, so much better when we're together. Anyway,
Speaker 1: So this weekend I was in Tampa. One of my
Speaker 1: greatest lifelong dreams was to be on Home Shopping Network.
Speaker 1: I would say HSN, but I keep saying HSN and
Speaker 1: people are like what, so I have to spell it out.
Speaker 1: It's Home Shopping Network. And I went on to sell
Speaker 1: these beautiful headbands and hair pieces from lots and Maine.
Speaker 1: I had a blast.
Speaker 2: Are you plugging them in? How much did they pay
Speaker 2: you that you're plugging them in into our part?
Speaker 1: But I have to say why I was there? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I was there. I don't have my own this week.
Speaker 1: I don't have my own brand. I was plugging someone
Speaker 1: else's brand. And that's why I wasn't here for swim week.
Speaker 2: So but we went back Saturday, like Christy Brinkley, and
Speaker 2: you could have ran right to.
Speaker 1: The swim but why would I illustrated? But why?
Speaker 2: Why? But I wanted to go and I didn't want
Speaker 2: to go by myself, but you told me that.
Speaker 1: Well wait, listen, I got home really tired.
Speaker 2: There was no.
Speaker 1: Way after I did home shopping work Friday midnight, and
Speaker 1: then was up at five am to be on set
Speaker 1: at ten am on Saturday, and then flew home.
Speaker 2: I was dead.
Speaker 1: I wasn't happening.
Speaker 2: So it's more exhausting filming the show or filming something
Speaker 2: like HSN.
Speaker 1: They're different. I mean they're different, But what do you
Speaker 1: like more? I liked both. I like both a lot
Speaker 1: I like but I love doing our show. I have fun,
Speaker 1: especially because I get to do it with you. And
Speaker 1: HSM was like such a cool, fun experience. I mean
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: I just wanted you to see Christy because I knew
Speaker 2: she was there and I'm just a big fan of hers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was there selling like jeans and these cute
Speaker 1: sailor outfits, very Hampton's type of clothing.
Speaker 2: It was super cute. And then she flew back to
Speaker 2: Miami and she attended the Sports Illustrated Swimming Then.
Speaker 1: Swim Week is not my job. It used to be
Speaker 1: my job, and thank god it's not my job anymore.
Speaker 2: I remember when we used to go. We have so
Speaker 2: many fun memories of Austin Swim Week. We have pictures
Speaker 2: to go with it.
Speaker 1: We went Gorga and Joe Gorga one year.
Speaker 2: Remember, yeah has Sole Teresa is not gonna like that,
Speaker 2: but that was a long time we did. We hung
Speaker 2: out with Melissa and Joe, tons of fun and yeah,
Speaker 2: that was like back in the day when it first started.
Speaker 2: And it's going into such a big event here in
Speaker 2: Miami and we filmed there last year. Yeah, and you
Speaker 2: know I would have gone to the Sports Illustrated. That
Speaker 2: one's the one that I would have gone to. Stupid,
Speaker 2: you know what. I didn't get excited about it, honestly,
Speaker 2: you know, I like, I get excited about it, and
Speaker 2: then I just don't want to go.
Speaker 1: I have PTSD from doing those events because back in
Speaker 1: the day, the summer was my slow season in the
Speaker 1: PR firm, and if you could pick up a few
Speaker 1: swim week events, at least you were busy and help
Speaker 1: with payroll because you know, you got to pay the employees,
Speaker 1: and but it was they paid so poorly, and it
Speaker 1: was such hard work.
Speaker 2: And it's so hot and events really.
Speaker 1: Really hard work and you get nothing for it. And
Speaker 1: I have PTSD from that. I never made less money
Speaker 1: in my life than when I worked on swim weeks,
Speaker 1: So I don't for me swim weeks like ill no,
Speaker 1: thank you. I don't want to go. But that's just
Speaker 1: me and.
Speaker 2: I feel like we've outgrown it, right, Like we've been
Speaker 2: doing this for such a long time and it's there
Speaker 2: every year, so it's like nothing special, you know. I'm happy.
Speaker 2: I'm happy that it has grown into like a big thing,
Speaker 2: and I hope it continues to grow and you know,
Speaker 2: be great for the city. But I feel like, like
Speaker 2: I said, like I I agree with I was excited
Speaker 2: about the Sports Illustrated, Yeah, because I love their magazine
Speaker 2: and you know the women that they put on their covers. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so it's very inspirational and that would have been a
Speaker 2: fun event. I saw some of our friends were there.
Speaker 2: Lisa was there with Jody, and Kiki was there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: killing it on the red carpet pal of course, Well
Speaker 2: she is a model. Yeah no, I mean I had
Speaker 2: like a bunch of cute off it's to wear. So
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know how you out because you.
Speaker 1: Didn't want to go because I wasn't here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of wanted to go with you. And
Speaker 2: then after it happened, I get like, fomo, like, okay,
Speaker 2: I missed out, Like I didn't go, But then you know.
Speaker 1: If you remember that, it's just stand on the line,
Speaker 1: sit in the seat.
Speaker 2: It's hot. It's not that great.
Speaker 1: But you know, back in the day, I think you're
Speaker 1: like me. You had the magazine, you had to go
Speaker 1: to these things, but you were a whole swim we
Speaker 1: got and I had to throw these fashion shows. And
Speaker 1: when you had to do it for work, it no
Speaker 1: longer becomes like a fun thing. You go back and
Speaker 1: you remember it like work. That's how I am. I
Speaker 1: feel like it's like work for me, and I feel
Speaker 1: like the great brands are gone now. I remember vel
Speaker 1: Swim where I.
Speaker 2: Always attended their show, one of the most beautiful shows,
Speaker 2: our best.
Speaker 1: So good, and the bandage sweatsuits were so cool.
Speaker 2: Louis Max lovely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well we have really good memories actually of some
Speaker 2: weeknd we didn't like so much.
Speaker 1: We did it big, and we don't want to do
Speaker 1: it any less than that, and it ain't so big anymore.
Speaker 2: I'm going back and if I'm on the cover of
Speaker 2: s I.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, me too, me too, or somewhere inside.
Speaker 2: I don't know, like yeah, but still intend you know
Speaker 2: everybody you know it does. Yeah, Like I said, there's
Speaker 2: room for everybody. I feel like it's become such a
Speaker 2: like young thing, and it's I think it's more.
Speaker 1: For like marketing and retailers and wholesale selling and shopping.
Speaker 1: It's I feel like they should do it during the
Speaker 1: day and it just keep it to like, like you know,
Speaker 1: New York Fashion Week, a lot of it's during the day,
Speaker 1: a lot of it's night too.
Speaker 2: But I feel like a lot of guys that attend
Speaker 2: these events too, right, girls in bikinis. Yeah, and in
Speaker 2: Miami lecherous.
Speaker 1: It's so sleeky sure that when all these guys going
Speaker 1: there that aren't biberts, Yeah, a bunch of perverts.
Speaker 2: It's all like yah, yeah, yeah, that's Miami. But we
Speaker 2: still choose to live here, don't we. Oh No, I
Speaker 2: love my city. Are you kidding me to want to
Speaker 2: live anywhere else? But that's why we're allowed to talk
Speaker 2: about it, Like you know, we're allowed to talk about
Speaker 2: the things to go on in our city because we live.
Speaker 1: In Then nobody knows that like we do. We've lived
Speaker 1: here for how long our entire life?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, we went born and raised here.
Speaker 1: You had a magazine, you went to every event, you
Speaker 1: ran shit in this town. I had a PR firm,
Speaker 1: I ran stuff in this town. I did all the events.
Speaker 1: I know, we know everybody. We really know this town
Speaker 1: like nobody we are And in Miami a.
Speaker 2: Lot we should talk about that. Yet another age changed
Speaker 2: a Miami has changed a lot, and it's kind of
Speaker 2: like a joke. I mean seriously, like you go to
Speaker 2: these places and it's like, you know, like what, oh
Speaker 2: my god. Yeah, and I feel like the men have
Speaker 2: figured it out, so like they're.
Speaker 1: All like, let's go to Miami.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have some topics that we want to discuss.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and you know, I guess in our broad world, right,
Speaker 2: we can't get away from it.
Speaker 1: Right, and you know, we don't like to talk about housewise,
Speaker 1: but we really need to talk about.
Speaker 2: This one sure, and that is that New Jersey will
Speaker 2: not have a remedy onion? Yeah yeah, but like, did
Speaker 2: it surprise you? Does it surprise you that won't be
Speaker 2: having a reunion.
Speaker 1: I haven't watched in a long long time. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie since we went up there like in two thirteen.
Speaker 1: But I did watch before and I did scoop in
Speaker 1: a couple of times to see what's up because everyone
Speaker 1: said it was very toxic and I did.
Speaker 2: And it was really hard.
Speaker 1: But it said about all the shows.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: That's why people watch.
Speaker 2: By the way, the audience is toxic because they are watching.
Speaker 1: It well to show it off of the toxic Okay
Speaker 1: there are yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's like I feel like they're.
Speaker 2: Like they criticize it that you know that is Oh,
Speaker 2: it's so toxic. Guess what you guys are watching? And
Speaker 2: this is what we live in a toxic world unfortunately. Yeah,
Speaker 2: people like to watch the car crash and then after
Speaker 2: they watched the whole thing, then they go on their
Speaker 2: Instagram and something. They leave all the comments, Bro, why
Speaker 2: are you watching? You know? Why are you watching? If
Speaker 2: you're like not, okay, it's.
Speaker 1: A drug, it's a bad you know it's bad for you,
Speaker 1: but you love it, you know, you love to hate it.
Speaker 1: It's that thing. It's the car crash. You drive by
Speaker 1: the car crash, and you know.
Speaker 2: I don't know how long this is going to keep
Speaker 2: on going, because I mean, I don't know about you,
Speaker 2: but I'm kind of like, I'm tired of watching that
Speaker 2: between you and I like, you know, I like them,
Speaker 2: you know their past, you know, I like all the ladies,
Speaker 2: but like it just gets really really toxic and vicious.
Speaker 2: And then this is why this happens, This is why
Speaker 2: they have no reunion.
Speaker 1: Well, they don't have any resolution.
Speaker 2: No, I mean that they spend all season, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe not content to each other. And they also you
Speaker 2: can't have a division these kind of shows, you can't
Speaker 2: have this kind of division. Yeah, and then they made
Speaker 2: no progress. You know, sometimes you start off the show
Speaker 2: with this kind of a division, but then things work
Speaker 2: out differently, and then by the time the show wraps up,
Speaker 2: you know, the teams have changed or there's been like
Speaker 2: some at least you know, inner action, but in this case,
Speaker 2: nothing happens. It just got worse. So like, do you
Speaker 2: want to watch that reunion like of them sitting in
Speaker 2: different sofa I was like, I wasn't even happy when
Speaker 2: that happened with us like one sofa side of the
Speaker 2: sofa against the other side of the sofa. You know,
Speaker 2: I was so happy that this year reunion, Like I
Speaker 2: was on the other side of the sofa. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 2: I really was.
Speaker 1: I really I didn't like the other side because it
Speaker 1: was on my worst side of my face and the
Speaker 1: cameras were right.
Speaker 2: On my it was like the worst side. But for me,
Speaker 2: it was like no, Like so you know, you're always
Speaker 2: going to have that kind of the division because obviously
Speaker 2: not everybody's going to love each other all, you know,
Speaker 2: every season, but season.
Speaker 1: I have to be honest, I feel like our show
Speaker 1: is a lot tamer than other shows, and the girls
Speaker 1: actually really like each other and care for each other.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, I really like each other, but
Speaker 1: I think the majority do. When I watch other shows,
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of hate and anger
Speaker 1: and animals.
Speaker 2: Sitting on for less than they half, you know, for
Speaker 2: as far as that goes, you know, these girls have
Speaker 2: been well, there's been a few new ones in the group,
Speaker 2: but a lot of them have been together for thirteen,
Speaker 2: fourteen to fifteen years. H Yeah, and you know, unfortunately
Speaker 2: this is where they're at. And you know, in Terresa,
Speaker 2: Melissa's case is even more unfortunate because they're a family.
Speaker 2: So it's like, you know what I mean, so destroyed
Speaker 2: them or you know they were destroyed already before the show,
Speaker 2: or you know, but it's just like where do you
Speaker 2: pick up.
Speaker 1: They started negatively, They started negatively, they weren't close then years.
Speaker 2: Later, they beginning close to her brother. Teresa and her brother.
Speaker 1: I think that, honestly, this show needs to restructure itself
Speaker 1: kind of like.
Speaker 2: People, do you see a reboot or do you just
Speaker 2: see like a whole new show like New York did,
Speaker 2: which is a whole new cast.
Speaker 1: Now, no, no, no, I don't think that works. I
Speaker 1: think that they need to do like what we did
Speaker 1: in Miami, right, right, you need to keep.
Speaker 2: A few people were pretty different. I'm not going to
Speaker 2: you know, Miami is very different, right because Miami was
Speaker 2: not on the year for eight years, right, So it's
Speaker 2: not like what they did from Miami. Why couldn't Miami
Speaker 2: come back like a brand new Fast right, Well, but
Speaker 2: that wouldn't work what it ever works for Miami? Absolutely?
Speaker 2: So what do they do? But with the reboots, you
Speaker 2: have to bring in the anchors of the show and
Speaker 2: who the show and who the face of the show is. Well,
Speaker 2: and in this case, it's Teresa.
Speaker 1: It's Teresa, Okay, So what are you.
Speaker 2: Gonna do with the reboot? You're gonna have to keep
Speaker 2: Teresa because she is the face of the show. That
Speaker 2: you like her or you hate her. In this case,
Speaker 2: I love her, but you know by so.
Speaker 1: Rasa back, you can't have Melissa back because nobody wants
Speaker 1: to say.
Speaker 2: That keeps what's going to happen and who brings more
Speaker 2: to the show. Like I mean, I don't know who
Speaker 2: makes these decisions, whether it's like the producer or the
Speaker 2: network or the fans, because at this point, I really
Speaker 2: do believe that these shows have changed a lot, and
Speaker 2: I feel like the fans have a lot to say,
Speaker 2: and the network and the producers are listening to it
Speaker 2: like we're back in the day. When we started, it
Speaker 2: didn't really matter when you care. There was no way
Speaker 2: of voicing your opinion or making comments or anything like that.
Speaker 2: But I feel like they're listening to the fans now,
Speaker 2: and the fans I've had enough of it. Nobody wants
Speaker 2: to watch that and every single team, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I think that's why I stopped watching ten years ago
Speaker 1: and it's still going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I think now there's more of a division
Speaker 2: because I think before it was only like one or two,
Speaker 2: but now it's like one team against the other team.
Speaker 2: Laura is the only one that's neutral.
Speaker 1: You want your allies and support you.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about that, but you know, Dolores
Speaker 2: is really the only one that's done in a great job,
Speaker 2: like being neutral and like really liking both sides, and well, I.
Speaker 1: Throb be the voice of reason. I think that they
Speaker 1: could redo a whole show with maybe two three Max
Speaker 1: and then but who else besides Teresa was honestly, if
Speaker 1: you need a peacemaker, so Dolorous.
Speaker 2: I think Teresa Doloris for sure should stay.
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree.
Speaker 2: You know, I personally like Jennifer Aiden also, you know,
Speaker 2: I think she's very opinionated. She's I mean, now, she's
Speaker 2: good fronts to Teresa. So you know, we can't have
Speaker 2: only like team Terica. I would get rebooth known.
Speaker 1: Her and I haven't watched, but I do know that.
Speaker 2: But Thelores for sure and Theresa, Yeah, I would read
Speaker 2: my thing. So you think of reboot not like what
Speaker 2: happened in New York. Everyone happened to New York. I
Speaker 2: feel like everybody loves New York.
Speaker 1: The new cast.
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Everyone was complaining. I watched two episodes.
Speaker 2: It was hard. People don't like change. You have to
Speaker 2: give them a change. We have to. It's a new franchise.
Speaker 1: It's great to take another season or or more or
Speaker 1: more for everyone to attach to them and get into
Speaker 1: it and it'll work.
Speaker 2: So that's why I like it. I mean, I've seen
Speaker 2: very little bit, you know, I see very little these shows.
Speaker 2: But I like the cast members, you know, I like
Speaker 2: their energy. I just like who they are.
Speaker 1: You know, actors are good separately on their own. Together,
Speaker 1: they had some weird arguments that weren't very compelling.
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't It wasn't great. So I kind of
Speaker 2: think they've been watching too many other housewived shows. That's
Speaker 2: what happened when it's younger.
Speaker 1: That's what I thought when I watched watching the others
Speaker 1: and they weren't themselves girls, Do you need to just
Speaker 1: be yourself? Wave that freak flag, loosen.
Speaker 2: Up and and everything watching other people show that had
Speaker 2: already existed.
Speaker 1: They also seemed very rehearsed when they get the scenes,
Speaker 1: like they knew what they were going to talk about,
Speaker 1: and you can't do that. Even Alexi and I we
Speaker 1: never she'll have a bunch of cards up her sleep
Speaker 1: and she won't tell me, Well, they're not cards on
Speaker 1: my sleep, but I wouldn't want to tell you an
Speaker 1: hour before great, I mean, is that right?
Speaker 2: But That's why I'm like, I can wait to tell
Speaker 2: you yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you do, which is great, and then I
Speaker 1: have a natural reaction and vice versa. You cannot share
Speaker 1: with your castmates what you're going to talk about with
Speaker 1: before they get there, because it all falls flat. No
Speaker 1: one's that great of an actor.
Speaker 2: You d have not doing the wrong show. That part
Speaker 2: should be in another show. And so that a lot of.
Speaker 1: The Girls New York was rehearsed like that and it
Speaker 1: fell flat. Hopefully they'll do it different this time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I wanted New York to thrive.
Speaker 2: I mean I feel like I mean, I've talked to
Speaker 2: Teresa about this before and she says that Jersey is
Speaker 2: like a really hard city to cast, which has a
Speaker 2: lot of like commonality with my Miami. Because Miami is
Speaker 2: a really hard city to cast. You would think, oh
Speaker 2: my god, there would be so many amazing, great people
Speaker 2: in Miami that would want to be part of this yeah,
Speaker 2: or be great for the show. But then it's not
Speaker 2: that easy. Once they start casting. It's not only finding them,
Speaker 2: but then once they cast, there's so many other components involved,
Speaker 2: you know, like their families, their husbands and you know,
Speaker 2: I'm just like their personality. Like they also that's what
Speaker 2: other people don't realize either. When you do a reboot, Yes,
Speaker 2: you'll have like one, two three maybe like Atlanta. I
Speaker 2: feel like Atlanta is going to be a very successful reboot.
Speaker 2: I thought they needed it as well. Yeah, and you know,
Speaker 2: just bringing in Kenya and Portia and so many years
Speaker 2: have passed and now they're coming into this like with
Speaker 2: her new mind and you.
Speaker 1: I never thought i'd see that. Oh my god, I'm
Speaker 1: so excited after that wig dragged at the reunion. I
Speaker 1: never thought i'd see those two befriends.
Speaker 2: But you know what, that's the trick give you give
Speaker 2: it time. And I think that that's why they're doing
Speaker 2: with these shows. And even like for us, we're like
Speaker 2: delayed a little bit, like in filming because of that,
Speaker 2: Like you need to give time for life to happen,
Speaker 2: you know, and for things to happen, for it to
Speaker 2: go on. You know, you just can't be like you know,
Speaker 2: that's where I think you fall into into trouble. You know,
Speaker 2: when you life doesn't go on, and like you you
Speaker 2: wrop up filming the reunion and then you start again,
Speaker 2: and then the reunion there's very closure or resolution, so
Speaker 2: it's kind of like you start off in a bad
Speaker 2: place again. So I think they're making I know if
Speaker 2: I see they will make the right decisions. And I
Speaker 2: see it though.
Speaker 1: And by the way, it was Andy's birthday.
Speaker 2: Ye the day before we like birthday happy, and so
Speaker 2: you know, I'm sure that don't make the right decision.
Speaker 1: And yeah, listen, Miami did well. We've done good because
Speaker 1: we kept a mix of old and new and it's
Speaker 1: working right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. Yeah, but then again you have to
Speaker 2: find like that synergy too. Like it was hard because
Speaker 2: I like I felt like the new girls that came
Speaker 2: in was like it was them against us. They thought
Speaker 2: that they could never be like us or compete like
Speaker 2: with our friendships. But we were at because they were new.
Speaker 2: So it's it's good, but it's not that good either.
Speaker 2: It's hard.
Speaker 1: It's harding, but there, you know, you have to you
Speaker 1: have to. There's just a thing about we've been friends
Speaker 1: for so long, you mean, Lisa Larsa. You know, we
Speaker 1: know each other so well and that you cannot you know,
Speaker 1: that's a bond that's very difficult to break overnight, you know.
Speaker 2: No, But you know, sometimes you do have friends for
Speaker 2: a short period of time that you haven't met for
Speaker 2: a long time and you just click and you have
Speaker 2: that chemistry and you can have that same bond and friendship.
Speaker 2: So I mean, I don't know. I think that that
Speaker 2: it's hard to do. A reboot is difficult. You have
Speaker 2: to like really want it. For example, like whoever it
Speaker 2: may be that's staying, you know, on the show is
Speaker 2: going to have to be welcome, mean, you know, with
Speaker 2: the new girls and you know whatnot. But you know,
Speaker 2: I think that I think.
Speaker 1: That if they kept Teresa, she would do a good
Speaker 1: job at that.
Speaker 2: I think so Teresa is super nice, Oh.
Speaker 3: Nice, she's super nice, and I think very grandly understood,
Speaker 3: very free.
Speaker 2: Very friendly, but you know, it's too many years of
Speaker 2: the same thing and of the attacking. You have to
Speaker 2: let people be happy and be you know and like.
Speaker 2: And I feel like that's just like we're going to
Speaker 2: talk about that, talking about that with Jaelo and I'm
Speaker 2: not even comparing you, but it's like our next topic
Speaker 2: that we're going to talk about is Jlo because I
Speaker 2: feel like they don't leave this woman alone, Like you
Speaker 2: need to leave people alone. And I feel like Teresa
Speaker 2: and her thing. It's like they went after her. Now
Speaker 2: they saw her happy, Oh because Louis this, and Louis
Speaker 2: it's like, dude, like it's just too much, so with
Speaker 2: you against the entire world.
Speaker 1: I think it's a little different because people haven't always
Speaker 1: been attacking Jaelo. It's only recently, and that's Teresa's had
Speaker 1: that all along. But Jayla everyone was like, she's oh,
Speaker 1: she's JLO and now she's getting some heat. And now
Speaker 1: people are getting upset because she's getting a little heat
Speaker 1: for the first time in her life.
Speaker 2: Why do you think that she's getting some heat now?
Speaker 2: And I'm in the house.
Speaker 1: I think that she's had too many flops in a
Speaker 1: row right now. The movies are being panned, her documentary
Speaker 1: is being panned. She couldn't sell the tickets, and now
Speaker 1: everyone's like, JLO sucks.
Speaker 2: Well, who cares if she couldn't sell the tickets, that's
Speaker 2: not such a big deal.
Speaker 1: Well, she had too many things that came out at
Speaker 1: the same time. Too many people are giving opinions and
Speaker 1: reviews on all these different things, and they're negative because
Speaker 1: they're not good.
Speaker 2: But I think it's more than that. I feel like
Speaker 2: people don't want to see her happy. Nobody's rooting for her,
Speaker 2: and ben like, I think that people would be okay
Speaker 2: because she's human, you know, you can't be successful and
Speaker 2: everything that everything can be a hit, you know, I
Speaker 2: think that she did it was like poor timing and
Speaker 2: poor It's a judgment and a bad collecimity and a
Speaker 2: lot of things that are happening to her right now.
Speaker 2: And my heart really goes out for her, not only
Speaker 2: because I, you know, I like her and I've you know,
Speaker 2: I've always seen her as an inspirational woman and she
Speaker 2: has flaws like every other woman, but you know, I
Speaker 2: tend to see the beauty in her and all her
Speaker 2: positive and all her great things which she has, which
Speaker 2: there are a lot of them. And then when she
Speaker 2: opens up and she's vulnerable on a docu series, not
Speaker 2: people are coming after her like why did you do this?
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. So it's like, oh no, no, Gana.
Speaker 2: It's like it's always like the same thing.
Speaker 1: I honestly didn't watch any of it. Well obviously everybody
Speaker 1: knows I'm not a fan, so I didn't watch.
Speaker 2: Any of it.
Speaker 1: But it's unfortunate. It's not good when everything you're doing recently.
Speaker 1: It just kind of sucks and.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. Don't think give people the right to
Speaker 2: be so hate, you know, like just to show so
Speaker 2: much hate.
Speaker 1: They do it anyway, because.
Speaker 2: You know, look at yourself. I mean, people need to
Speaker 2: self reflect and look at themselves. Are you that great?
Speaker 2: And are you whatever?
Speaker 1: Are you that they're not? That's why they're upset because
Speaker 1: their life isn't that great and even on their worst day,
Speaker 1: it's not as bad as j Loo's. And then they
Speaker 1: get angry and then they you know, they just want to,
Speaker 1: you know, put out their frustrations on the internet. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it makes them feel any better, if
Speaker 1: it's cathartic, but they just do it. It is what
Speaker 1: it is, and it's unfortunate. But I think it's just
Speaker 1: a collision of a lot of bad products. She's put
Speaker 1: out in a row and now.
Speaker 2: Everyone, well, I I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Just because you
Speaker 2: put a bad product out there does not mean that
Speaker 2: people have the right to attack you the way or
Speaker 2: attacking the moment. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: People have the right to know it wasn't they have
Speaker 1: the right.
Speaker 2: How would you? How do you like it when they
Speaker 2: say things about you. Don'd you get three little comments
Speaker 2: You're like, oh my god, and you're like dying for
Speaker 2: three comments. Stop. I'm not nice.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that it's nice. I'm just saying it
Speaker 1: is the way of the world now. And the reason
Speaker 1: is that she had too many bad products that she
Speaker 1: put on. She had a documentary she hasn't.
Speaker 2: Well, it was bad to people that didn't want that
Speaker 2: were not Okay, hold on a minute, just like you
Speaker 2: could say, well, you know what if it doesn't work
Speaker 2: out for you, whatever, Well you have a bad show.
Speaker 2: You know, you have a toxic show. That's not but
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean you want to hear that from the
Speaker 2: people and in the comments.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, so even so, this isn't helping her. This
Speaker 1: guy that she did the last film with Atlas, who's
Speaker 1: this guy? This guy Sterling K. Brown. He's been mocking
Speaker 1: her on the press tours.
Speaker 2: He's a little loser.
Speaker 1: He hates her.
Speaker 2: Okay, but you know what, he worked with her.
Speaker 1: He probably she's probably like shitty on the set and
Speaker 1: he doesn't like her.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, but do you blame her? Do
Speaker 2: you blame her? Like her life right now isn't great? Personally.
Speaker 2: And you know, I can speak for myself for that,
Speaker 2: when your life is not personally, if you're like that
Speaker 2: kind of a woman and you have no control of
Speaker 2: like your personal life right now, whatever's going on, it
Speaker 2: affects your professional life. Because she's human. I know she's Jlo,
Speaker 2: but she's also human. She's a mom, she's a daughter,
Speaker 2: she's a wife. I mean, she's also human, and she
Speaker 2: has every right not everything's going to be perfect, I mean,
Speaker 2: for her all the time. Just because you didn't like
Speaker 2: her show, So don't watch it, that's all you gotta do.
Speaker 2: Don't watch.
Speaker 1: And I'm just telling you about the rebews on the
Speaker 1: last three things she's put out. We're back, you know,
Speaker 1: sell the ticketing, well, who cares?
Speaker 2: Okay, she can say, you know, how many tickets she
Speaker 2: sold her entire life?
Speaker 1: What are people.
Speaker 2: Focus about right now?
Speaker 1: Okay, well right now, who cares?
Speaker 2: But why do people just focus on that. She's had
Speaker 2: a career where she sold billions of tickets. I myself
Speaker 2: want to go see her in Vegas where she performed
Speaker 2: and it was incredible that woman gave you know, like
Speaker 2: for the money that I paid, she should have charged
Speaker 2: three times because it was incredible. Like, she's such a performer,
Speaker 2: she's so hard working. And again that's not good enough
Speaker 2: because it also affected her personal life and that's where
Speaker 2: she's at now. Like I really don't believe that she
Speaker 2: canceled her concert because of poor ticket sales. I really
Speaker 2: do believe that she canceled her concert because her personal
Speaker 2: life is falling apart and for once she can deal
Speaker 2: with it. Stop it with your pr ship. It's not
Speaker 2: no pr spin Okay, I'm sorry, No, it's not you
Speaker 2: as a publicist, you can stayed up. But I really
Speaker 2: don't believe that.
Speaker 1: Okay, she's no Share and she's no Madonna, Okay, Di,
Speaker 1: I agree with them, and you know, okay, so she dances,
Speaker 1: she puts on a naked outfit and she blip syncs.
Speaker 2: Okay, and so to one hundred other people.
Speaker 1: But you know what, you know, she's just never going
Speaker 1: to be them. She's never going to sell out those
Speaker 1: tours for the rest of her life. You know who
Speaker 1: will do that? Adele. Adele can put on a black dress,
Speaker 1: sit on a stool because she has a voice and
Speaker 1: she sings. She doesn't have to dance and wear the
Speaker 1: sparkly outfit and distract people from the fact of the
Speaker 1: lack of talent. That's just my opinion, and Adele will
Speaker 1: just be like Barbara Streissan and will be keep singing
Speaker 1: and selling out concerts till the day she puts her
Speaker 1: foot in the grape.
Speaker 2: Jaylo said in her release, I am completely heartsick and
Speaker 2: devastated about letting you down. Please know that I wouldn't
Speaker 2: do this if I didn't feel that it was absolutely necessary.
Speaker 2: Totally agree with her. I promise I will make it
Speaker 2: up to you and we'll all be together again. I
Speaker 2: love you all so much until next time. It's sad,
Speaker 2: it's very sad. It's odd. Yeah, I'll make it up
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 1: We'll all be together and I love you much until
Speaker 1: next time.
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, but.
Speaker 1: It is down, of course.
Speaker 2: But you know, you know, her career is very important
Speaker 2: to her.
Speaker 1: She's letting down the people that didn't buy the tickets, No.
Speaker 2: The people that know, just everybody, because she feels this.
Speaker 2: She feels this from all the people giving her all
Speaker 2: this hate and not it's supporting her PR spin. I
Speaker 2: don't know how that's a PR spin.
Speaker 1: Because everyone knows she couldn't sell the tickets and she's
Speaker 1: making it seem like not everything in life is about
Speaker 1: pr not everybody on my friend, I'm going to put
Speaker 1: this proposition out now. She remember when she broke up
Speaker 1: with a rob because he cheated on her, and two
Speaker 1: weeks later she's already out with Ben and they're engaged. Well, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: you know I didn't know that, but she knows how
Speaker 1: to spend shit and she trusts me. Would this breakup
Speaker 1: if she had sold those tickets out and she could
Speaker 1: really do a tour, she would have gone.
Speaker 2: She would have gone.
Speaker 1: She would have gone and done it because maybe she
Speaker 1: likes to keep going and doing her thing and moving on.
Speaker 2: So you don't think at this time that she's suffering
Speaker 2: from her separation from Ben.
Speaker 1: Right now, you think what she is. But she's a
Speaker 1: woman likes to throw herself into her work or into
Speaker 1: another man, and she keeps it moving.
Speaker 2: And so now I mean I think that that's how
Speaker 2: she has loved her life. Yes, that's correct. Right well now,
Speaker 2: now sometimes there's different situations and she's fifty four years
Speaker 2: old and she sees you know, probably life and family,
Speaker 2: especially being on her fourth marriage.
Speaker 1: She says, I'm making no money and all the back
Speaker 1: with my family, who I don't want to hang out
Speaker 1: with anyway.
Speaker 2: Do you think so? Yeah? I thank you. You're entitled
Speaker 2: to think that like you, one hundred thousand other people do,
Speaker 2: and those are the ones that are leaving the hate comments.
Speaker 2: I know. I'm supporting her, and I think it's really
Speaker 2: honorable that she that she was able to she did
Speaker 2: find love with Ben. But I really hope that she
Speaker 2: can save her marriage and her relationship and that she
Speaker 2: realizes that she has nothing to prove. She's proven everything.
Speaker 2: She's a freaking superstar. She's done everything I agree to
Speaker 2: herself she does. She keeps on trying to do something,
Speaker 2: you know, to work like, she doesn't stop working. I
Speaker 2: mean at this point, she hadn't made music since twenty nineteen, Like,
Speaker 2: why would you go back, like you said, having all
Speaker 2: these things in the plate, already having your Netflix docu series,
Speaker 2: having the Outlets movie for Netflix, and she's filming something
Speaker 2: else in New York.
Speaker 1: I forgot. I think she thought she was gonna be like, Wow, no,
Speaker 1: I was a superstars. She already knows that she's a
Speaker 1: super who who's not gonna listen? In this business, you
Speaker 1: got to keep pustling.
Speaker 2: It's well, by the way, Ben is working too, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So Ben is working too, and
Speaker 2: you know, and Ben doesn't look like he's such a
Speaker 2: walk in the park. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: No, okay, he doesn't.
Speaker 2: He doesn't, so I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: So she's probably like, Okay, you focus on your thing.
Speaker 1: I'm going to focus on me and I'm going to.
Speaker 2: Do my thing and I'm going to do what I
Speaker 2: love to do greatious and it's just right. That doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: But they're both very very well off. They're not concerned
Speaker 2: about money at this point. For once, this relationship is
Speaker 2: not about money. They didn't marry each other for money.
Speaker 1: She doesn't care about any of that.
Speaker 2: She cares about work and about her career and about
Speaker 2: her profession. But you know, which is something else that
Speaker 2: we can talk about. Like she's fifty four years old.
Speaker 2: I think she's had a remarkable life and career. She
Speaker 2: hasn't been so great. I agree with you. She's not
Speaker 2: a sheriff and Donna Dell whatever as far as singing
Speaker 2: goes or acting like you know, let's say Meryl Streep
Speaker 2: or any of that. But with the talent that God
Speaker 2: gave her, she's done so much with it, and yes,
Speaker 2: and she should be inspirational for a lot a lot
Speaker 2: of young women to say, you know what, never give
Speaker 2: up on your dreams. I started this way and where
Speaker 2: I'm here now. So that's what I've always seemed to
Speaker 2: think about. And I really do believe that she's really
Speaker 2: in love with Ben, and she really is. She you
Speaker 2: know sometimes and you don't hit like rock bottom, but
Speaker 2: she's always so busy that she doesn't realize what's going on.
Speaker 2: So when she saw that probably Ben moved out and
Speaker 2: wanted some separation between them, she's like, what, like, what
Speaker 2: is really happening to me right now? And seeing her
Speaker 2: family is falling apart, and you know, she's a human being,
Speaker 2: and like she's had four marriages already, it's like a tapano.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's like you're like, you know what, like maybe you know,
Speaker 2: I need to save this, Like this is the love
Speaker 2: of my life, like she like she professors that it is,
Speaker 2: which I really do believe it is. So why aren't
Speaker 2: you fighting for it?
Speaker 1: Drop everything right now and go fight for it.
Speaker 2: And I think that that's what she's doing. That's just
Speaker 2: me personally, that my friend I would love to be
Speaker 2: friends with her, But.
Speaker 1: I know you would because I think we have Like
Speaker 1: I've actually hung out with her and had dinner with
Speaker 1: her a few times in the nineties. I wasn't impressed.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why I still have like, you know, well in.
Speaker 2: The nineties, who were you in the nineties. Well, she
Speaker 2: had already done, Selena.
Speaker 1: I was told in the nineties.
Speaker 2: And I'm still but I want to take you some
Speaker 2: kind of growth, you know, like you know when you're
Speaker 2: in the nineties and she was just starting off. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of insecurities.
Speaker 1: Okay, well whatever, let's just I forgot I was going
Speaker 1: to say I had some really important points.
Speaker 2: He said, what did you just say about the nineties? No?
Speaker 1: Before that? Oh, here's what I think. I think that
Speaker 1: and I know you're going to agree with me. She
Speaker 1: needs to take a break from all these QUICKI relationships
Speaker 1: and marriages because she keeps moving her kids into these
Speaker 1: situations with other kids and other and restarting. So what
Speaker 1: happened with you know, a Rod's kids, they were super close.
Speaker 1: Now she lives with Ben's kids and her kids. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I don't understand that. It's like, you need you
Speaker 1: need to consider them too. And I understand being in
Speaker 1: love with love and you and I love that and
Speaker 1: we jump into stuff. I can do that as much
Speaker 1: as I want. I don't have many kids, and I
Speaker 1: know your relationship chips have all been long ten then
Speaker 1: fifteen years and now another eight years like you. But
Speaker 1: her relationships don't even last two three years. And then
Speaker 1: she's I'm honest and moving the kids and new kids
Speaker 1: an instant family.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that that's hard. Like I don't think she's
Speaker 2: made the best decisions, you know, for her family. You know,
Speaker 2: maybe for her, but not for her family. And she's
Speaker 2: in love with the idea of being in love. But
Speaker 2: I really do think that, Like Ben was also comunga
Speaker 2: how do you say.
Speaker 1: Like when you're stubborn and stuck on.
Speaker 2: Like when you really want like the fact that she
Speaker 2: couldn't have them twenty three years ago, and you know,
Speaker 2: so it was always like in the back of her
Speaker 2: mind and then timing happened, were you know, a rod
Speaker 2: supposedly cheated on her or she cheated on her and
Speaker 2: she was alone filming.
Speaker 1: Ben was alone. It was all about timing, and you know, sometimes.
Speaker 3: It was like it had to be you know, what
Speaker 3: I mean, it was years ago.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you know, sorry, Oh you cheated on me, Ben, No,
Speaker 2: I know, but hold on. Yeah, but again, no, no,
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that. No, I'm saying that she was
Speaker 2: like a go gittle like it was her go Gito,
Speaker 2: Like he was the one that escaped, and you know,
Speaker 2: she can't have anybody she wants. It was like the man,
Speaker 2: the guy that escaped twenty something years ago, and she
Speaker 2: was so much younger and naive and not even immature,
Speaker 2: and so is he. And then they reconnected and they
Speaker 2: always had that love for each other that's like really
Speaker 2: hot and sexy and like any anybody, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean at that stage in their life would totally
Speaker 2: try again. But the truth is, and nothing's changed. They're
Speaker 2: more public than ever, They're more popular than ever, they're
Speaker 2: more famous than ever. Now they have kids, So now
Speaker 2: you put kids into the equation. Before it's just them too.
Speaker 2: Now you have five kids. Now you have five kids.
Speaker 2: I don't think any of them NEPR like Ben for
Speaker 2: sure hates social media, hates the paparazzi, hates the pr
Speaker 2: They're never going to really believe like her side of
Speaker 2: the story and I think that that's why she wanted
Speaker 2: to do that docu series.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like she wanted to prove to the world.
Speaker 2: I think that they really that they were really in
Speaker 2: love and that he always loved her and he never
Speaker 2: like really left her or like he was always thinking
Speaker 2: about her. She wants to prove and you see, I
Speaker 2: feel like that's where she went wrong. If she would
Speaker 2: have kept that all to herself, Yes she shouldn't have
Speaker 2: done that. Maybe she wouldn't be but you know what,
Speaker 2: she did it from her heart. She didn't think that
Speaker 2: that he was not going to be okay with her
Speaker 2: support it because he didn't like it.
Speaker 1: She's marketing her relationship.
Speaker 2: She's got a song with that. It's not a good idea.
Speaker 2: It's not a good idea. And I think that that
Speaker 2: it's you know, she she's paying for right now. She's
Speaker 2: paying for enough.
Speaker 1: That relationship was doomed.
Speaker 2: I think they took a pact.
Speaker 1: That's what they say about everybody's relationship. Everybody's relationship is doomed.
Speaker 2: I have it. Travis and Kelsey Odita. People start saying, oh, no,
Speaker 2: they're not doomed. They're already saying no, they're already saying
Speaker 2: they had a five blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Everybody fine, oh no, no, but yeah.
Speaker 2: But it's different when you're a public peron and you
Speaker 2: fight and somebody sees you and you know, and they
Speaker 2: say they did they talk about it, or you leave
Speaker 2: at restaurant, it's different. When you're in that you know,
Speaker 2: in that platform, or whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 2: It's it's very different. It's like you can't do anything
Speaker 2: without people finding out.
Speaker 1: Guys having an opinion. Alex Ya, they're not doomed. They're
Speaker 1: going to get married Travis and and Okay, well, pinky swear,
Speaker 1: Jo and Ben are getting back together.
Speaker 2: Oh no, they're not.
Speaker 3: Yes they are, Yes they are. It's gonna get have
Speaker 3: to help them. You have to go to La and
Speaker 3: talk to jal. Yes, No, they're there. Yes, are you
Speaker 3: agreement from the beginning?
Speaker 2: Agreement?
Speaker 1: You don't see it an agreement?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, who can hop an agreement?
Speaker 1: It's Hollywood. Hollywood's been doing that for years. In the
Speaker 1: fifties and sixties, there were gay actors. They would put
Speaker 1: them together with straight women, put them in the tablets
Speaker 1: like they were dating because they weren't allowed to. Okay,
Speaker 1: well that's that different.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, twenty four an agreement.
Speaker 1: People still for she's the master at this.
Speaker 2: She calls the paparazzi everywhere she goes.
Speaker 1: She knows what she's doing. She has a whole time.
Speaker 1: By the way, so does he. I don't think he does.
Speaker 2: You know, he doesn't want it. Oh that's what he says, no,
Speaker 2: my love when he was with Anna Diadamas. But by
Speaker 2: the way, she's keeping Oh my god, yeah, exactly, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: my love. So read yourself said. You can know so
Speaker 2: because I'm a fan of Anaadama. She was dating Ben.
Speaker 2: With Benny, you're dating Ben and the one that would
Speaker 2: call the paparazzis because she's like she's an amazing, very
Speaker 2: very incredible actress.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but she doesn't have like that.
Speaker 2: You know, there's some actresses that have like no, yes
Speaker 2: she does, but there's some people that have like that
Speaker 2: stark quality power, you know, that attracts the paparazzi in
Speaker 2: the media to talk about them, and there's some people
Speaker 2: that don't. She's beautiful, talented, but people don't really care
Speaker 2: for her. But anyway, she dated Ben. She's a lot
Speaker 2: younger than Ben. For like a year and a half.
Speaker 1: No, yes, and they were super serious.
Speaker 2: And the one that would call the paparazzi and it's
Speaker 2: public knowledge, the one that would call the proparazzi and
Speaker 2: wanted him to get to the pictures was him.
Speaker 1: No, you know what, he wants to control it. This
Speaker 1: is what happens.
Speaker 2: He likes the paparazzi when he can control the paparazzi
Speaker 2: and they can put the picture of him that he likes,
Speaker 2: hold the hand, do like the whole thing when he
Speaker 2: controls it. What doesn't ben like when the paparazzi gets
Speaker 2: them mad for usual because it has the ship face
Speaker 2: and is not opening the door to j Lo or
Speaker 2: he's having a conversation with her, or he's doing when
Speaker 2: they catch him in a way that he doesn't want
Speaker 2: to see that people he doesn't want to see people
Speaker 2: portray him that way right or be perceived.
Speaker 1: But if not, he's okay with it. So it's like
Speaker 1: double standards. No, I can't believe an armad what happened them?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Should be call Anna, maybe she'll tell her.
Speaker 2: I mean, he should have stayed with her, She's That's
Speaker 2: what I'm telling you that besides she's a very talented,
Speaker 2: she's very pretty, and she seems pretty normal also, by
Speaker 2: the way, But I wonder why it didn't work out.
Speaker 2: I feel like she's a lot younger than him. I
Speaker 2: think that's that was a problem.
Speaker 1: Tell me what you think about Lenny Kravitz. He hasn't
Speaker 1: had sex in nine years.
Speaker 2: Speaking of relationships, Yeah, speaking.
Speaker 1: Of extreme relationships, jumping from one to another and then
Speaker 1: like not having one and not well.
Speaker 2: For that really surprised me. I would never think that
Speaker 2: about Lenny Gravits, Like, he's.
Speaker 1: Such a superstar.
Speaker 2: He's like a rock star. He's like everything that has
Speaker 2: to do with like hottness and sexiness. I mean, have
Speaker 2: you seen it? The pantsy? Oh my god, are you
Speaker 2: gonna say, is peenis? No? It's penis No. But you
Speaker 2: can see his penis throws rulin you're always looking at that.
Speaker 1: Well, he wears these very like like on gossamer type
Speaker 1: of things that you can see his religion like right
Speaker 1: through his pan.
Speaker 2: Well, so let's be see. Celibacy is a different story.
Speaker 2: You know you can wear those type pants. Well he
Speaker 2: wears Yeah.
Speaker 1: He's celibate, So what the hell's going on there? Okay?
Speaker 1: In a new interview with The Guardian, krowtstold the interview
Speaker 1: he's not been in a serious relationship for nine years.
Speaker 2: Wow, I think Lisa was the last one.
Speaker 1: What, No, they've been Okay, Well, were you serious when
Speaker 1: you so married a while ago that you wanted to
Speaker 1: be celibate until you found the right woman.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a spiritual thing.
Speaker 1: He says he'd love to be in a relationship now,
Speaker 1: but he thinks he might struggle. I have become very
Speaker 1: set in my ways, in the way I live. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's sixty yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and you know what,
Speaker 1: people are complicated. It's very hard to live with someone
Speaker 1: you know, you need to be on the same damn page.
Speaker 1: It's very different.
Speaker 2: I mean, even if you're not in the same I
Speaker 2: don't think you have to be in the same damp page.
Speaker 2: But no, I mean you have to like meet halfway
Speaker 2: and there has to be like some adjustments and like conversationations.
Speaker 2: But because it's not only about like my way right right? Okay?
Speaker 1: Could you ever be celibate for that long? And what's
Speaker 1: the longest you've been without sex?
Speaker 2: Hm? Well, I think that I think not having sex
Speaker 2: is more like abstaining. I don't think. I don't consider
Speaker 2: that celibacy. I consider I've never had celibacy never, never,
Speaker 2: not that you know, because it's like you're married, but
Speaker 2: for like spiritual reasons, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 2: I see more celibacy with like a spiritual meaning behind it.
Speaker 2: And even though I haven't been married, I've still like
Speaker 2: had sex, and I feel like that's a lot for
Speaker 2: a lot of people, Like I don't believe that you
Speaker 2: can only have sex if you're married, and that's part
Speaker 2: of celibacy.
Speaker 1: Well, how do you know you want to marry someone
Speaker 1: and listens you have sex of course. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I just I was really in shock that
Speaker 2: he that he was celibate and that he would talk
Speaker 2: about it. You see, This is what I'm trying to say,
Speaker 2: And like I always talk about these when we're talking
Speaker 2: about hot topics that like even Camilla Cabello the other
Speaker 2: day saying that she lost her virginity, uh whatever, age,
Speaker 2: Like who asked you? One this case? Is she who
Speaker 2: asked you? Why are you talking about it now? Like
Speaker 2: why are you trying to get attention? Like yeah, like
Speaker 2: nobody wants to know that.
Speaker 1: By the way, I was like who cares about Camilakavello.
Speaker 1: But by the way, I really am obsessed that the
Speaker 1: fact the Lenny Tighte wearing pants see my penis through
Speaker 1: my pants, hasn't had sex in nine years. That's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: But I think that he's doing some Yeah, he's doing
Speaker 1: a religious thing, right, So that's what I said.
Speaker 2: So I said, one thing is abstaining from having sex
Speaker 2: and not just having it because like you know, you're
Speaker 2: stressed out about it or you're get stresses your whatever
Speaker 2: your reason might be. But it's not with the spiritual
Speaker 2: connection rush, whereas celibacy is you know, they believe that
Speaker 2: until you don't find that partner and you marry them,
Speaker 2: is not that you can have like sex with kind
Speaker 2: of right, because I mean there's other sexual things you
Speaker 2: can do. And that's the other thing too, Like celibacy
Speaker 2: like on your own boy, it's that doesn't even count.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's you're like self pleasuring yourself. Oh for sure,
Speaker 2: he's like in love with it, Oh my god, for sure.
Speaker 2: In Celibacy doesn't mean you can't touch your own baby.
Speaker 2: Yeah you got to do Yeah, of course he's doing that.
Speaker 1: We should I want to What's more concerning.
Speaker 2: But you know, what's more concerning with me that he's
Speaker 2: not connecting spiritually with any woman.
Speaker 1: That is the question. The question shouldn't be Women.
Speaker 2: Shouldn't be like, oh my god, he's not having sex,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: The question should be like, why aren't you having sex?
Speaker 2: Lenny? Why aren't you connecting? In nine years? There's not
Speaker 2: one woman you could have connected with spiritually. It's not
Speaker 2: a weird I'm kind of like able got out. Oh
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you know, And I'm such a fan of
Speaker 2: baby crabits.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and I actually.
Speaker 2: See him here in Miami all the time and with women,
Speaker 2: So like, what's going on, Lenny? How came you're not connecting?
Speaker 2: But speaking of that, I feel like I've heard of
Speaker 2: many other like actress and actresses more.
Speaker 1: Actress, guys pay pay bills.
Speaker 2: No that I don't know, but that the dude that
Speaker 2: practice sell really Yeah. So I remember doing a magazine
Speaker 2: cover with Eduardo. He was like this hot Mexican actor,
Speaker 2: you know, back in the day, and now he's actually
Speaker 2: very involved with politics.
Speaker 1: He's so beautiful, he's a.
Speaker 2: Very handsome guy. Well now he doesn't look that great.
Speaker 2: When I had him on my cover of the magazine.
Speaker 2: That guy was gorgeous, like he walked in. Everybody was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I saw it, and then my job was to google them. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well when I googled him, I'm like, I think Alexi
Speaker 1: and I was, and I think I saw him on
Speaker 1: a cover.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And everybody would always tell me like like when
Speaker 2: we met each other there, I was like, no, well
Speaker 2: first I was married, but you know, every time we're hooking.
Speaker 2: Oh no, everybody thought every time I had a hot
Speaker 2: guy on the cover, that would be like Alex is
Speaker 2: doing whatever. It was so rude, and I think that
Speaker 2: that's why I've always thoune that my friend, Okay, thank
Speaker 2: that's good and you know me, yeah, no, I mean,
Speaker 2: and that's why I think I hate the media so
Speaker 2: much and like people, you're champing even though I'm here
Speaker 2: chaining out though. Yeah, I mean, it was like I
Speaker 2: had like the stamp in my in my forehead that
Speaker 2: it was like I was, no, it doesn't make you
Speaker 2: a boot, but you know, it was honestly like offensive,
Speaker 2: like that's what everybody thought, Like every time I had
Speaker 2: a hot cover, Oh hug guy on the cover, it's
Speaker 2: because you're doing like that's so rare.
Speaker 1: You have like a casting couch what we kind of did. No,
Speaker 1: you're silver so fu Yeah yeah, it would look like
Speaker 1: tinfoils so cool. Your whole office was very bar ba.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's always been kind of barb Yeah. But anyways,
Speaker 2: so we had it and and but this is you
Speaker 2: see what I'm talking about, Like I think it goes
Speaker 2: into like being like a little weird. I mean, also,
Speaker 2: we're talking about men that have always been like so
Speaker 2: good looking. All these guys have had women throwing themselves
Speaker 2: at like it's like it's gross, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's like women throwing themselves at them the whole time.
Speaker 2: So they're like, I feel like he's so that he
Speaker 2: just is just know now he's married. I think he's
Speaker 2: very now. He's very now. Yeah he's married now so
Speaker 2: he's having sex.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well okay, but the audience needs to know that
Speaker 1: this man did fourteen years of celibacy.
Speaker 2: Yes, So when we met him and he was on Ala,
Speaker 2: he was already practicing the Seals, sellab the sceed. So
Speaker 2: we were all like freaking out because he was like that.
Speaker 2: But I want you to know that he was so
Speaker 2: serious about that. So we're trying to get him dressed
Speaker 2: and you know, there was a salast there and everything.
Speaker 2: But I think we had like a few discrepancies and
Speaker 2: size because you're usually like, you know how the girls
Speaker 2: lie about their size, so two men. Yeah, so he
Speaker 2: probably said he was like a size thirty in waist
Speaker 2: and he was like a thirty two. Oh But anyways,
Speaker 2: so everybody was like no, I say, like he was
Speaker 2: like not liking it, like you have to go in
Speaker 2: there and talk to him and whatever. And I literally
Speaker 2: opened the door and he was like, yeah, clevering, covering
Speaker 2: his baby, covering his baby, And I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: And how well was he? He was in his thirties?
Speaker 2: He was like in his thirties yeah.
Speaker 1: Grown man, Yeah yeah, no, it was young holding beautiful
Speaker 1: woman to see his people.
Speaker 2: No or or anybody for that matter, but you can
Speaker 2: see like his energy was kind of like weird, you know,
Speaker 2: because we know we're used to being around just like
Speaker 2: normal people. Wow, he is like so what I'm trying
Speaker 2: to say, Yeah he is. He's very religious. And actually
Speaker 2: loved that about him because I think religion is very important.
Speaker 2: I do, true, So I loved that he was religious
Speaker 2: and he's like super devla like Lavina a little bit.
Speaker 2: I know if you've seen his like his Mexican Yes,
Speaker 2: he's an incredible human being. He's done a lot for
Speaker 2: It's funny we're talking about him after like all these years.
Speaker 2: I still remember his cover and but back in the day,
Speaker 2: nobody was really talking about celibacy. So everybody was like,
Speaker 2: of course, what do people do. They go the other
Speaker 2: way and they start saying, oh, yeah, that's because he's
Speaker 2: you know, gay, it's not because people want to have
Speaker 2: sexic women. Yeah. Yeah. So then there were all these
Speaker 2: rumors about him, and I was like, wow, why do
Speaker 2: people just believe like that You're you know, you're just
Speaker 2: not interested, like for some people, you have to have
Speaker 2: that connection. Okay, I want to talk about his honeymoon night.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about his honeymoon night because I
Speaker 1: can't anymore. Yeah, so, after fourteen years of not having sex,
Speaker 1: what do you think his honeymoon night was? Like like
Speaker 1: he just got out of prison, right right?
Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I didn't talk about it. No, no, no, I didn't
Speaker 1: read anything. I'm just imagining fourteen years you don't touch
Speaker 1: a human being. My gosh, do you even think he
Speaker 1: even made it inside without having his explosion, because I
Speaker 1: would think that he would have just went like all
Speaker 1: over the place.
Speaker 2: Again, Like, I don't know how you know, Like I said,
Speaker 2: celibacy could be sexual. It's usually sexual, but there's also
Speaker 2: like different degrees of celibacy, Like there's some that don't kiss,
Speaker 2: that don't touch, that don't you know within houbles, but
Speaker 2: there's some that everything's allowed except the sex and the penetration.
Speaker 2: What degree do you think I I don't know. That's
Speaker 2: very personal. Like I just by looking at you, I
Speaker 2: could tell you that, Well.
Speaker 1: If you looked at me, you know that I wasn't
Speaker 1: doing a sexual religious starvation things.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean it's like, yeah, I don't really want
Speaker 2: to live and I want to enjoy. And the thing
Speaker 2: is like I don't have problems connecting with people and
Speaker 2: either do you you know or with men you know
Speaker 2: too much? Yeah, So it's like I feel that sometimes
Speaker 2: these are personal journeys. I want to say that. And
Speaker 2: I think it's more like a masculine I think it's
Speaker 2: more of a man thing than a woman. I don't know, well,
Speaker 2: actually do know women, but the women that I know
Speaker 2: that don't have sex now or haven't had sex is
Speaker 2: because they abstained. They're abstaining from sex. Like I want
Speaker 2: people to realize that it's two different things.
Speaker 1: And why are they upselling your friends?
Speaker 2: So some of my friends that they're sex desire, that's A.
Speaker 2: And then B they're more selective and they're just more
Speaker 2: selective about the individual. You know, they feel like they're
Speaker 2: not going to give like that away or you know
Speaker 2: that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: But you know why, I think it is.
Speaker 2: A because their sex drive isn't the same. Because when
Speaker 2: you're horny, you're not selective. It's true, right, So you know,
Speaker 2: so I feel that So that's a connection with that
Speaker 2: and and that's it. It's basically those two things, right,
Speaker 2: But you're not into it and then you're more selective.
Speaker 1: What I would think that it is. I didn't know
Speaker 1: if there was like a religious component to it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I make I make promises all the time.
Speaker 2: Religious component? What ALRIGHTE? Like, how would this be religious
Speaker 2: about sex? But look, that's why I find it interesting
Speaker 2: with Lenny Kravitz because like he's doing this like in
Speaker 2: the best years of his life, getting because I do of.
Speaker 1: Like living the life of a Buddhist.
Speaker 2: What does he living? What is his Oh? Yes, religious
Speaker 2: sometimes Yeah it is. I mean, I don't know, I
Speaker 2: didn't read about that, but he could be like that.
Speaker 2: He gives me the vibe that he could be like a.
Speaker 1: Little literally just working out, eating super clean and.
Speaker 2: Not having sex.
Speaker 1: You might as well be dead.
Speaker 2: I agree. I think that those are the best things
Speaker 2: in life. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sex, food, Yeah, and no exercise. Look, exercise. I'm the
Speaker 1: epitome of all. I'm the poster child of you. No,
Speaker 1: I don't eat food. I'm not a big eater, but
Speaker 1: I do like my sexy time and my relaxation. No exercise.
Speaker 2: No, you do the liquid diet, which is perfect right.
Speaker 2: You do the liquid you you're hydrated for sure, you're
Speaker 2: not worried.
Speaker 1: About graded and you'll never see me parched and thirsty.
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