1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: I with Alexi Napola and Marisol Patton, an iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 2: Hey, cheer nice, Hi amiga. We're here at Marisol's living room. Yeah, 3 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: and having a cocky. If you guys are home and 4 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: listening to us, please have a cocky with us. 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: Have a cocky list. 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: Don't drive after the cocky. No, everyone's staying home. Alright, 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: it's four o'clock. Oh, it's a happy hour. 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, but on the East Coast it's one o'club. 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: No, that's ours West coast. I had too many copies. 10 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: I don't know a coast s'mon anymore. 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: Oh good. So wherever you're at, we hope you're having 12 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 2: a beautiful day and you're tuning in and listening to 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 2: us have a little bit of fun and having a 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: coffee with us. 15 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: We're very good at having fun, aren't we. And we're 16 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: excellent and having fun. I'm also very excellent relaxing. If 17 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: I could get paid for relaxing, i'd be a gazillionaire. 18 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: I need to learn from you, my friend, because I 19 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: am the opposite of the Oh. 20 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: I wish I was more like you, though. I wish 21 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: I would get up, run around and get in my car. 22 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: I want to go see the day. I want to 23 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: seize the sofa and I remember, like I only really. 24 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: Sit down when I'm so exhausted, like at the end 25 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: of the day, or not eat. I'm not out, yeah, 26 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: but well not, I'm just if you. 27 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: Lay around and off, you'll feel exhausted, because it's something 28 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: about relaxing that makes you even more exhausted than if 29 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: you went out and did a million things. 30 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: Well, speaking of exhausting, how was your weekend, because I 31 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: don't think that I saw you at any event for 32 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 2: swim week this weekend. Oh no, not that I was there. 33 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: No, no, no, I was in Orlando. No, not Orlando. 34 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: Sorry, what is moment? All right? 35 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: Guys? Alexi and I we were at a very sad 36 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: memorial but after that we were so sad. We had 37 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: a lot of drinks and now I'm here and I 38 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 1: can't get my thoughts together. We had a cocky lunch 39 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: and it was really great because I love when we 40 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: hang out and have time together. 41 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: We should be doing this every every week when we're taping. 42 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: We're like, we're going to but you live kind of far. 43 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: We live far from each other. 44 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: But whenever we do have that opportunity, we take advantage 45 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: of it and we record together. We record too much. 46 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: Fun, so much better, so much better when we're together. Anyway, 47 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: So this weekend I was in Tampa. One of my 48 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: greatest lifelong dreams was to be on Home Shopping Network. 49 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: I would say HSN, but I keep saying HSN and 50 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: people are like what, so I have to spell it out. 51 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: It's Home Shopping Network. And I went on to sell 52 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: these beautiful headbands and hair pieces from lots and Maine. 53 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 1: I had a blast. 54 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: Are you plugging them in? How much did they pay 55 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: you that you're plugging them in into our part? 56 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: But I have to say why I was there? Okay, okay, 57 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: I was there. I don't have my own this week. 58 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: I don't have my own brand. I was plugging someone 59 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: else's brand. And that's why I wasn't here for swim week. 60 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 2: So but we went back Saturday, like Christy Brinkley, and 61 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 2: you could have ran right to. 62 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: The swim but why would I illustrated? But why? 63 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: Why? But I wanted to go and I didn't want 64 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,399 Speaker 2: to go by myself, but you told me that. 65 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: Well wait, listen, I got home really tired. 66 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 2: There was no. 67 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: Way after I did home shopping work Friday midnight, and 68 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: then was up at five am to be on set 69 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: at ten am on Saturday, and then flew home. 70 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 2: I was dead. 71 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: I wasn't happening. 72 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: So it's more exhausting filming the show or filming something 73 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: like HSN. 74 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: They're different. I mean they're different, But what do you 75 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: like more? I liked both. I like both a lot 76 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: I like but I love doing our show. I have fun, 77 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: especially because I get to do it with you. And 78 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: HSM was like such a cool, fun experience. I mean 79 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: I was. 80 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: I just wanted you to see Christy because I knew 81 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: she was there and I'm just a big fan of hers. 82 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, she was there selling like jeans and these cute 83 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: sailor outfits, very Hampton's type of clothing. 84 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: It was super cute. And then she flew back to 85 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: Miami and she attended the Sports Illustrated Swimming Then. 86 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: Swim Week is not my job. It used to be 87 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: my job, and thank god it's not my job anymore. 88 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: I remember when we used to go. We have so 89 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: many fun memories of Austin Swim Week. We have pictures 90 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: to go with it. 91 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: We went Gorga and Joe Gorga one year. 92 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: Remember, yeah has Sole Teresa is not gonna like that, 93 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: but that was a long time we did. We hung 94 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:20,559 Speaker 2: out with Melissa and Joe, tons of fun and yeah, 95 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: that was like back in the day when it first started. 96 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 2: And it's going into such a big event here in 97 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: Miami and we filmed there last year. Yeah, and you 98 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: know I would have gone to the Sports Illustrated. That 99 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: one's the one that I would have gone to. Stupid, 100 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: you know what. I didn't get excited about it, honestly, 101 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 2: you know, I like, I get excited about it, and 102 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: then I just don't want to go. 103 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: I have PTSD from doing those events because back in 104 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: the day, the summer was my slow season in the 105 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: PR firm, and if you could pick up a few 106 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: swim week events, at least you were busy and help 107 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: with payroll because you know, you got to pay the employees, 108 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: and but it was they paid so poorly, and it 109 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: was such hard work. 110 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: And it's so hot and events really. 111 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: Really hard work and you get nothing for it. And 112 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: I have PTSD from that. I never made less money 113 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: in my life than when I worked on swim weeks, 114 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: So I don't for me swim weeks like ill no, 115 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: thank you. I don't want to go. But that's just 116 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: me and. 117 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: I feel like we've outgrown it, right, Like we've been 118 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 2: doing this for such a long time and it's there 119 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: every year, so it's like nothing special, you know. I'm happy. 120 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 2: I'm happy that it has grown into like a big thing, 121 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: and I hope it continues to grow and you know, 122 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: be great for the city. But I feel like, like 123 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 2: I said, like I I agree with I was excited 124 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: about the Sports Illustrated, Yeah, because I love their magazine 125 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: and you know the women that they put on their covers. Yeah, 126 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 2: so it's very inspirational and that would have been a 127 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: fun event. I saw some of our friends were there. 128 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 2: Lisa was there with Jody, and Kiki was there. Yeah, 129 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: killing it on the red carpet pal of course, Well 130 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: she is a model. Yeah no, I mean I had 131 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: like a bunch of cute off it's to wear. So 132 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know how you out because you. 133 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: Didn't want to go because I wasn't here. 134 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of wanted to go with you. And 135 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 2: then after it happened, I get like, fomo, like, okay, 136 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 2: I missed out, Like I didn't go, But then you know. 137 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: If you remember that, it's just stand on the line, 138 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: sit in the seat. 139 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 2: It's hot. It's not that great. 140 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: But you know, back in the day, I think you're 141 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: like me. You had the magazine, you had to go 142 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: to these things, but you were a whole swim we 143 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: got and I had to throw these fashion shows. And 144 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: when you had to do it for work, it no 145 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 1: longer becomes like a fun thing. You go back and 146 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: you remember it like work. That's how I am. I 147 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: feel like it's like work for me, and I feel 148 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: like the great brands are gone now. I remember vel 149 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: Swim where I. 150 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 2: Always attended their show, one of the most beautiful shows, 151 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: our best. 152 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: So good, and the bandage sweatsuits were so cool. 153 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 2: Louis Max lovely. 154 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 155 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well we have really good memories actually of some 156 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 2: weeknd we didn't like so much. 157 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: We did it big, and we don't want to do 158 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: it any less than that, and it ain't so big anymore. 159 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 2: I'm going back and if I'm on the cover of 160 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 2: s I. 161 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, me too, me too, or somewhere inside. 162 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: I don't know, like yeah, but still intend you know 163 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: everybody you know it does. Yeah, Like I said, there's 164 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: room for everybody. I feel like it's become such a 165 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: like young thing, and it's I think it's more. 166 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: For like marketing and retailers and wholesale selling and shopping. 167 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: It's I feel like they should do it during the 168 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: day and it just keep it to like, like you know, 169 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: New York Fashion Week, a lot of it's during the day, 170 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: a lot of it's night too. 171 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 2: But I feel like a lot of guys that attend 172 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: these events too, right, girls in bikinis. Yeah, and in 173 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: Miami lecherous. 174 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: It's so sleeky sure that when all these guys going 175 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: there that aren't biberts, Yeah, a bunch of perverts. 176 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: It's all like yah, yeah, yeah, that's Miami. But we 177 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 2: still choose to live here, don't we. Oh No, I 178 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: love my city. Are you kidding me to want to 179 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: live anywhere else? But that's why we're allowed to talk 180 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 2: about it, Like you know, we're allowed to talk about 181 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: the things to go on in our city because we live. 182 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: In Then nobody knows that like we do. We've lived 183 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: here for how long our entire life? 184 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, we went born and raised here. 185 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: You had a magazine, you went to every event, you 186 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: ran shit in this town. I had a PR firm, 187 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: I ran stuff in this town. I did all the events. 188 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: I know, we know everybody. We really know this town 189 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: like nobody we are And in Miami a. 190 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: Lot we should talk about that. Yet another age changed 191 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 2: a Miami has changed a lot, and it's kind of 192 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: like a joke. I mean seriously, like you go to 193 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 2: these places and it's like, you know, like what, oh 194 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: my god. Yeah, and I feel like the men have 195 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: figured it out, so like they're. 196 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: All like, let's go to Miami. 197 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have some topics that we want to discuss. 198 00:08:56,040 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and you know, I guess in our broad world, right, 199 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 2: we can't get away from it. 200 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: Right, and you know, we don't like to talk about housewise, 201 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: but we really need to talk about. 202 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: This one sure, and that is that New Jersey will 203 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: not have a remedy onion? Yeah yeah, but like, did 204 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 2: it surprise you? Does it surprise you that won't be 205 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: having a reunion. 206 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: I haven't watched in a long long time. I'm not 207 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: gonna lie since we went up there like in two thirteen. 208 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: But I did watch before and I did scoop in 209 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: a couple of times to see what's up because everyone 210 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: said it was very toxic and I did. 211 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: And it was really hard. 212 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: But it said about all the shows. 213 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: I know. 214 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: That's why people watch. 215 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 2: By the way, the audience is toxic because they are watching. 216 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: It well to show it off of the toxic Okay 217 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: there are yeah. 218 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 219 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: So it's like I feel like they're. 220 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: Like they criticize it that you know that is Oh, 221 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 2: it's so toxic. Guess what you guys are watching? And 222 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 2: this is what we live in a toxic world unfortunately. Yeah, 223 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 2: people like to watch the car crash and then after 224 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: they watched the whole thing, then they go on their 225 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: Instagram and something. They leave all the comments, Bro, why 226 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 2: are you watching? You know? Why are you watching? If 227 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: you're like not, okay, it's. 228 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: A drug, it's a bad you know it's bad for you, 229 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: but you love it, you know, you love to hate it. 230 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: It's that thing. It's the car crash. You drive by 231 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: the car crash, and you know. 232 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: I don't know how long this is going to keep 233 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: on going, because I mean, I don't know about you, 234 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: but I'm kind of like, I'm tired of watching that 235 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 2: between you and I like, you know, I like them, 236 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 2: you know their past, you know, I like all the ladies, 237 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: but like it just gets really really toxic and vicious. 238 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 2: And then this is why this happens, This is why 239 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 2: they have no reunion. 240 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: Well, they don't have any resolution. 241 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 2: No, I mean that they spend all season, you know, 242 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: maybe not content to each other. And they also you 243 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: can't have a division these kind of shows, you can't 244 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: have this kind of division. Yeah, and then they made 245 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: no progress. You know, sometimes you start off the show 246 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: with this kind of a division, but then things work 247 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 2: out differently, and then by the time the show wraps up, 248 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: you know, the teams have changed or there's been like 249 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 2: some at least you know, inner action, but in this case, 250 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 2: nothing happens. It just got worse. So like, do you 251 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: want to watch that reunion like of them sitting in 252 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: different sofa I was like, I wasn't even happy when 253 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 2: that happened with us like one sofa side of the 254 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 2: sofa against the other side of the sofa. You know, 255 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 2: I was so happy that this year reunion, Like I 256 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 2: was on the other side of the sofa. I mean, honestly, 257 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: I really was. 258 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: I really I didn't like the other side because it 259 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: was on my worst side of my face and the 260 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: cameras were right. 261 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: On my it was like the worst side. But for me, 262 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 2: it was like no, Like so you know, you're always 263 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: going to have that kind of the division because obviously 264 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: not everybody's going to love each other all, you know, 265 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 2: every season, but season. 266 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: I have to be honest, I feel like our show 267 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: is a lot tamer than other shows, and the girls 268 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: actually really like each other and care for each other. 269 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: But I don't know, I really like each other, but 270 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: I think the majority do. When I watch other shows, 271 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of hate and anger 272 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: and animals. 273 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 2: Sitting on for less than they half, you know, for 274 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: as far as that goes, you know, these girls have 275 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 2: been well, there's been a few new ones in the group, 276 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 2: but a lot of them have been together for thirteen, 277 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 2: fourteen to fifteen years. H Yeah, and you know, unfortunately 278 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 2: this is where they're at. And you know, in Terresa, 279 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 2: Melissa's case is even more unfortunate because they're a family. 280 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 2: So it's like, you know what I mean, so destroyed 281 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 2: them or you know they were destroyed already before the show, 282 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: or you know, but it's just like where do you 283 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: pick up. 284 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: They started negatively, They started negatively, they weren't close then years. 285 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: Later, they beginning close to her brother. Teresa and her brother. 286 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: I think that, honestly, this show needs to restructure itself 287 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: kind of like. 288 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 2: People, do you see a reboot or do you just 289 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 2: see like a whole new show like New York did, 290 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 2: which is a whole new cast. 291 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: Now, no, no, no, I don't think that works. I 292 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: think that they need to do like what we did 293 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: in Miami, right, right, you need to keep. 294 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: A few people were pretty different. I'm not going to 295 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: you know, Miami is very different, right because Miami was 296 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: not on the year for eight years, right, So it's 297 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: not like what they did from Miami. Why couldn't Miami 298 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 2: come back like a brand new Fast right, Well, but 299 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,239 Speaker 2: that wouldn't work what it ever works for Miami? Absolutely? 300 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 2: So what do they do? But with the reboots, you 301 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 2: have to bring in the anchors of the show and 302 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: who the show and who the face of the show is. Well, 303 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 2: and in this case, it's Teresa. 304 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: It's Teresa, Okay, So what are you. 305 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 2: Gonna do with the reboot? You're gonna have to keep 306 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: Teresa because she is the face of the show. That 307 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: you like her or you hate her. In this case, 308 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 2: I love her, but you know by so. 309 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: Rasa back, you can't have Melissa back because nobody wants 310 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: to say. 311 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 2: That keeps what's going to happen and who brings more 312 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 2: to the show. Like I mean, I don't know who 313 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 2: makes these decisions, whether it's like the producer or the 314 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 2: network or the fans, because at this point, I really 315 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 2: do believe that these shows have changed a lot, and 316 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: I feel like the fans have a lot to say, 317 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: and the network and the producers are listening to it 318 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: like we're back in the day. When we started, it 319 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 2: didn't really matter when you care. There was no way 320 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: of voicing your opinion or making comments or anything like that. 321 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 2: But I feel like they're listening to the fans now, 322 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: and the fans I've had enough of it. Nobody wants 323 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: to watch that and every single team, Oh my god. 324 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: I think that's why I stopped watching ten years ago 325 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: and it's still going on. 326 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I think now there's more of a division 327 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: because I think before it was only like one or two, 328 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 2: but now it's like one team against the other team. 329 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 2: Laura is the only one that's neutral. 330 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: You want your allies and support you. 331 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about that, but you know, Dolores 332 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: is really the only one that's done in a great job, 333 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 2: like being neutral and like really liking both sides, and well, I. 334 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: Throb be the voice of reason. I think that they 335 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: could redo a whole show with maybe two three Max 336 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: and then but who else besides Teresa was honestly, if 337 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: you need a peacemaker, so Dolorous. 338 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: I think Teresa Doloris for sure should stay. 339 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: I agree, I agree. 340 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: You know, I personally like Jennifer Aiden also, you know, 341 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: I think she's very opinionated. She's I mean, now, she's 342 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: good fronts to Teresa. So you know, we can't have 343 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 2: only like team Terica. I would get rebooth known. 344 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: Her and I haven't watched, but I do know that. 345 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 2: But Thelores for sure and Theresa, Yeah, I would read 346 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: my thing. So you think of reboot not like what 347 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: happened in New York. Everyone happened to New York. I 348 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 2: feel like everybody loves New York. 349 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: The new cast. 350 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know. 351 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: Everyone was complaining. I watched two episodes. 352 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 2: It was hard. People don't like change. You have to 353 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 2: give them a change. We have to. It's a new franchise. 354 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: It's great to take another season or or more or 355 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: more for everyone to attach to them and get into 356 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: it and it'll work. 357 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: So that's why I like it. I mean, I've seen 358 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 2: very little bit, you know, I see very little these shows. 359 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: But I like the cast members, you know, I like 360 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: their energy. I just like who they are. 361 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: You know, actors are good separately on their own. Together, 362 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: they had some weird arguments that weren't very compelling. 363 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: No, it wasn't It wasn't great. So I kind of 364 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 2: think they've been watching too many other housewived shows. That's 365 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: what happened when it's younger. 366 00:15:55,440 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: That's what I thought when I watched watching the others 367 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: and they weren't themselves girls, Do you need to just 368 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: be yourself? Wave that freak flag, loosen. 369 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: Up and and everything watching other people show that had 370 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 2: already existed. 371 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: They also seemed very rehearsed when they get the scenes, 372 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: like they knew what they were going to talk about, 373 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: and you can't do that. Even Alexi and I we 374 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: never she'll have a bunch of cards up her sleep 375 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: and she won't tell me, Well, they're not cards on 376 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: my sleep, but I wouldn't want to tell you an 377 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: hour before great, I mean, is that right? 378 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 2: But That's why I'm like, I can wait to tell 379 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: you yeah, yeah. 380 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you do, which is great, and then I 381 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: have a natural reaction and vice versa. You cannot share 382 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: with your castmates what you're going to talk about with 383 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: before they get there, because it all falls flat. No 384 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: one's that great of an actor. 385 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: You d have not doing the wrong show. That part 386 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 2: should be in another show. And so that a lot of. 387 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: The Girls New York was rehearsed like that and it 388 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: fell flat. Hopefully they'll do it different this time. Yeah, 389 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I wanted New York to thrive. 390 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: I mean I feel like I mean, I've talked to 391 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 2: Teresa about this before and she says that Jersey is 392 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 2: like a really hard city to cast, which has a 393 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 2: lot of like commonality with my Miami. Because Miami is 394 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: a really hard city to cast. You would think, oh 395 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 2: my god, there would be so many amazing, great people 396 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: in Miami that would want to be part of this yeah, 397 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 2: or be great for the show. But then it's not 398 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 2: that easy. Once they start casting. It's not only finding them, 399 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 2: but then once they cast, there's so many other components involved, 400 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: you know, like their families, their husbands and you know, 401 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 2: I'm just like their personality. Like they also that's what 402 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 2: other people don't realize either. When you do a reboot, Yes, 403 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 2: you'll have like one, two three maybe like Atlanta. I 404 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 2: feel like Atlanta is going to be a very successful reboot. 405 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 2: I thought they needed it as well. Yeah, and you know, 406 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 2: just bringing in Kenya and Portia and so many years 407 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 2: have passed and now they're coming into this like with 408 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 2: her new mind and you. 409 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: I never thought i'd see that. Oh my god, I'm 410 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: so excited after that wig dragged at the reunion. I 411 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: never thought i'd see those two befriends. 412 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 2: But you know what, that's the trick give you give 413 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: it time. And I think that that's why they're doing 414 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 2: with these shows. And even like for us, we're like 415 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: delayed a little bit, like in filming because of that, 416 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 2: Like you need to give time for life to happen, 417 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 2: you know, and for things to happen, for it to 418 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 2: go on. You know, you just can't be like you know, 419 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 2: that's where I think you fall into into trouble. You know, 420 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 2: when you life doesn't go on, and like you you 421 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 2: wrop up filming the reunion and then you start again, 422 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 2: and then the reunion there's very closure or resolution, so 423 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 2: it's kind of like you start off in a bad 424 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: place again. So I think they're making I know if 425 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: I see they will make the right decisions. And I 426 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 2: see it though. 427 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: And by the way, it was Andy's birthday. 428 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 2: Ye the day before we like birthday happy, and so 429 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 2: you know, I'm sure that don't make the right decision. 430 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: And yeah, listen, Miami did well. We've done good because 431 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: we kept a mix of old and new and it's 432 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: working right. 433 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. Yeah, but then again you have to 434 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 2: find like that synergy too. Like it was hard because 435 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: I like I felt like the new girls that came 436 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 2: in was like it was them against us. They thought 437 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: that they could never be like us or compete like 438 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 2: with our friendships. But we were at because they were new. 439 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 2: So it's it's good, but it's not that good either. 440 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 2: It's hard. 441 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: It's harding, but there, you know, you have to you 442 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: have to. There's just a thing about we've been friends 443 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: for so long, you mean, Lisa Larsa. You know, we 444 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 1: know each other so well and that you cannot you know, 445 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: that's a bond that's very difficult to break overnight, you know. 446 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 2: No, But you know, sometimes you do have friends for 447 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 2: a short period of time that you haven't met for 448 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 2: a long time and you just click and you have 449 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 2: that chemistry and you can have that same bond and friendship. 450 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: So I mean, I don't know. I think that that 451 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 2: it's hard to do. A reboot is difficult. You have 452 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 2: to like really want it. For example, like whoever it 453 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 2: may be that's staying, you know, on the show is 454 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 2: going to have to be welcome, mean, you know, with 455 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 2: the new girls and you know whatnot. But you know, 456 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 2: I think that I think. 457 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: That if they kept Teresa, she would do a good 458 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: job at that. 459 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: I think so Teresa is super nice, Oh. 460 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 3: Nice, she's super nice, and I think very grandly understood, 461 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 3: very free. 462 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 2: Very friendly, but you know, it's too many years of 463 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 2: the same thing and of the attacking. You have to 464 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 2: let people be happy and be you know and like. 465 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 2: And I feel like that's just like we're going to 466 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 2: talk about that, talking about that with Jaelo and I'm 467 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 2: not even comparing you, but it's like our next topic 468 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 2: that we're going to talk about is Jlo because I 469 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 2: feel like they don't leave this woman alone, Like you 470 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 2: need to leave people alone. And I feel like Teresa 471 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 2: and her thing. It's like they went after her. Now 472 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 2: they saw her happy, Oh because Louis this, and Louis 473 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 2: it's like, dude, like it's just too much, so with 474 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: you against the entire world. 475 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: I think it's a little different because people haven't always 476 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: been attacking Jaelo. It's only recently, and that's Teresa's had 477 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: that all along. But Jayla everyone was like, she's oh, 478 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: she's JLO and now she's getting some heat. And now 479 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: people are getting upset because she's getting a little heat 480 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: for the first time in her life. 481 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 2: Why do you think that she's getting some heat now? 482 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: And I'm in the house. 483 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: I think that she's had too many flops in a 484 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: row right now. The movies are being panned, her documentary 485 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: is being panned. She couldn't sell the tickets, and now 486 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: everyone's like, JLO sucks. 487 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 2: Well, who cares if she couldn't sell the tickets, that's 488 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 2: not such a big deal. 489 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 1: Well, she had too many things that came out at 490 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: the same time. Too many people are giving opinions and 491 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: reviews on all these different things, and they're negative because 492 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: they're not good. 493 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 2: But I think it's more than that. I feel like 494 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 2: people don't want to see her happy. Nobody's rooting for her, 495 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 2: and ben like, I think that people would be okay 496 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 2: because she's human, you know, you can't be successful and 497 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 2: everything that everything can be a hit, you know, I 498 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: think that she did it was like poor timing and 499 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: poor It's a judgment and a bad collecimity and a 500 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: lot of things that are happening to her right now. 501 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: And my heart really goes out for her, not only 502 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 2: because I, you know, I like her and I've you know, 503 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: I've always seen her as an inspirational woman and she 504 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 2: has flaws like every other woman, but you know, I 505 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 2: tend to see the beauty in her and all her 506 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 2: positive and all her great things which she has, which 507 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: there are a lot of them. And then when she 508 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 2: opens up and she's vulnerable on a docu series, not 509 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: people are coming after her like why did you do this? 510 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. So it's like, oh no, no, Gana. 511 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 2: It's like it's always like the same thing. 512 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: I honestly didn't watch any of it. Well obviously everybody 513 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: knows I'm not a fan, so I didn't watch. 514 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 2: Any of it. 515 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: But it's unfortunate. It's not good when everything you're doing recently. 516 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: It just kind of sucks and. 517 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. Don't think give people the right to 518 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 2: be so hate, you know, like just to show so 519 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 2: much hate. 520 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: They do it anyway, because. 521 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 2: You know, look at yourself. I mean, people need to 522 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 2: self reflect and look at themselves. Are you that great? 523 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: And are you whatever? 524 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: Are you that they're not? That's why they're upset because 525 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: their life isn't that great and even on their worst day, 526 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: it's not as bad as j Loo's. And then they 527 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: get angry and then they you know, they just want to, 528 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: you know, put out their frustrations on the internet. I 529 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: don't know if it makes them feel any better, if 530 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: it's cathartic, but they just do it. It is what 531 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: it is, and it's unfortunate. But I think it's just 532 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: a collision of a lot of bad products. She's put 533 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: out in a row and now. 534 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 2: Everyone, well, I I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Just because you 535 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 2: put a bad product out there does not mean that 536 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 2: people have the right to attack you the way or 537 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 2: attacking the moment. I'm sorry. 538 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: People have the right to know it wasn't they have 539 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: the right. 540 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: How would you? How do you like it when they 541 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 2: say things about you. Don'd you get three little comments 542 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: You're like, oh my god, and you're like dying for 543 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 2: three comments. Stop. I'm not nice. 544 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that it's nice. I'm just saying it 545 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: is the way of the world now. And the reason 546 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: is that she had too many bad products that she 547 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: put on. She had a documentary she hasn't. 548 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 2: Well, it was bad to people that didn't want that 549 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 2: were not Okay, hold on a minute, just like you 550 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 2: could say, well, you know what if it doesn't work 551 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 2: out for you, whatever, Well you have a bad show. 552 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,959 Speaker 2: You know, you have a toxic show. That's not but 553 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 2: that doesn't mean you want to hear that from the 554 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 2: people and in the comments. 555 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: Well, okay, so even so, this isn't helping her. This 556 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: guy that she did the last film with Atlas, who's 557 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: this guy? This guy Sterling K. Brown. He's been mocking 558 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: her on the press tours. 559 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 2: He's a little loser. 560 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: He hates her. 561 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 2: Okay, but you know what, he worked with her. 562 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: He probably she's probably like shitty on the set and 563 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: he doesn't like her. 564 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 2: Well, you know what, but do you blame her? Do 565 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: you blame her? Like her life right now isn't great? Personally. 566 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 2: And you know, I can speak for myself for that, 567 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 2: when your life is not personally, if you're like that 568 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 2: kind of a woman and you have no control of 569 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 2: like your personal life right now, whatever's going on, it 570 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 2: affects your professional life. Because she's human. I know she's Jlo, 571 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 2: but she's also human. She's a mom, she's a daughter, 572 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 2: she's a wife. I mean, she's also human, and she 573 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 2: has every right not everything's going to be perfect, I mean, 574 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 2: for her all the time. Just because you didn't like 575 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 2: her show, So don't watch it, that's all you gotta do. 576 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 2: Don't watch. 577 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: And I'm just telling you about the rebews on the 578 00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 1: last three things she's put out. We're back, you know, 579 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: sell the ticketing, well, who cares? 580 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 2: Okay, she can say, you know, how many tickets she 581 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 2: sold her entire life? 582 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: What are people. 583 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 2: Focus about right now? 584 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: Okay, well right now, who cares? 585 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 2: But why do people just focus on that. She's had 586 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: a career where she sold billions of tickets. I myself 587 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 2: want to go see her in Vegas where she performed 588 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 2: and it was incredible that woman gave you know, like 589 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 2: for the money that I paid, she should have charged 590 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 2: three times because it was incredible. Like, she's such a performer, 591 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 2: she's so hard working. And again that's not good enough 592 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 2: because it also affected her personal life and that's where 593 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 2: she's at now. Like I really don't believe that she 594 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 2: canceled her concert because of poor ticket sales. I really 595 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: do believe that she canceled her concert because her personal 596 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 2: life is falling apart and for once she can deal 597 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: with it. Stop it with your pr ship. It's not 598 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 2: no pr spin Okay, I'm sorry, No, it's not you 599 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 2: as a publicist, you can stayed up. But I really 600 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 2: don't believe that. 601 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: Okay, she's no Share and she's no Madonna, Okay, Di, 602 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: I agree with them, and you know, okay, so she dances, 603 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: she puts on a naked outfit and she blip syncs. 604 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 2: Okay, and so to one hundred other people. 605 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: But you know what, you know, she's just never going 606 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,479 Speaker 1: to be them. She's never going to sell out those 607 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: tours for the rest of her life. You know who 608 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: will do that? Adele. Adele can put on a black dress, 609 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: sit on a stool because she has a voice and 610 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: she sings. She doesn't have to dance and wear the 611 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: sparkly outfit and distract people from the fact of the 612 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: lack of talent. That's just my opinion, and Adele will 613 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: just be like Barbara Streissan and will be keep singing 614 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: and selling out concerts till the day she puts her 615 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 1: foot in the grape. 616 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: Jaylo said in her release, I am completely heartsick and 617 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 2: devastated about letting you down. Please know that I wouldn't 618 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 2: do this if I didn't feel that it was absolutely necessary. 619 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 2: Totally agree with her. I promise I will make it 620 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 2: up to you and we'll all be together again. I 621 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 2: love you all so much until next time. It's sad, 622 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 2: it's very sad. It's odd. Yeah, I'll make it up 623 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 2: to you. 624 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: We'll all be together and I love you much until 625 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: next time. 626 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, but. 627 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: It is down, of course. 628 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 2: But you know, you know, her career is very important 629 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 2: to her. 630 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: She's letting down the people that didn't buy the tickets, No. 631 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 2: The people that know, just everybody, because she feels this. 632 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 2: She feels this from all the people giving her all 633 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 2: this hate and not it's supporting her PR spin. I 634 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 2: don't know how that's a PR spin. 635 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: Because everyone knows she couldn't sell the tickets and she's 636 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: making it seem like not everything in life is about 637 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: pr not everybody on my friend, I'm going to put 638 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: this proposition out now. She remember when she broke up 639 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: with a rob because he cheated on her, and two 640 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: weeks later she's already out with Ben and they're engaged. Well, okay, okay, 641 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: you know I didn't know that, but she knows how 642 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: to spend shit and she trusts me. Would this breakup 643 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: if she had sold those tickets out and she could 644 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: really do a tour, she would have gone. 645 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 2: She would have gone. 646 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,959 Speaker 1: She would have gone and done it because maybe she 647 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 1: likes to keep going and doing her thing and moving on. 648 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 2: So you don't think at this time that she's suffering 649 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 2: from her separation from Ben. 650 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: Right now, you think what she is. But she's a 651 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: woman likes to throw herself into her work or into 652 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: another man, and she keeps it moving. 653 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 2: And so now I mean I think that that's how 654 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 2: she has loved her life. Yes, that's correct. Right well now, 655 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 2: now sometimes there's different situations and she's fifty four years 656 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,719 Speaker 2: old and she sees you know, probably life and family, 657 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 2: especially being on her fourth marriage. 658 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: She says, I'm making no money and all the back 659 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: with my family, who I don't want to hang out 660 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: with anyway. 661 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 2: Do you think so? Yeah? I thank you. You're entitled 662 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 2: to think that like you, one hundred thousand other people do, 663 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 2: and those are the ones that are leaving the hate comments. 664 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 2: I know. I'm supporting her, and I think it's really 665 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 2: honorable that she that she was able to she did 666 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 2: find love with Ben. But I really hope that she 667 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: can save her marriage and her relationship and that she 668 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 2: realizes that she has nothing to prove. She's proven everything. 669 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 2: She's a freaking superstar. She's done everything I agree to 670 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 2: herself she does. She keeps on trying to do something, 671 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 2: you know, to work like, she doesn't stop working. I 672 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 2: mean at this point, she hadn't made music since twenty nineteen, Like, 673 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 2: why would you go back, like you said, having all 674 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 2: these things in the plate, already having your Netflix docu series, 675 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 2: having the Outlets movie for Netflix, and she's filming something 676 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 2: else in New York. 677 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: I forgot. I think she thought she was gonna be like, Wow, no, 678 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: I was a superstars. She already knows that she's a 679 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: super who who's not gonna listen? In this business, you 680 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: got to keep pustling. 681 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 2: It's well, by the way, Ben is working too, you 682 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 2: know what I mean. So Ben is working too, and 683 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 2: you know, and Ben doesn't look like he's such a 684 00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 2: walk in the park. I'm sorry. 685 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: No, okay, he doesn't. 686 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 2: He doesn't, so I'm sorry. 687 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: So she's probably like, Okay, you focus on your thing. 688 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to focus on me and I'm going to. 689 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 2: Do my thing and I'm going to do what I 690 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 2: love to do greatious and it's just right. That doesn't matter. 691 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 2: But they're both very very well off. They're not concerned 692 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 2: about money at this point. For once, this relationship is 693 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 2: not about money. They didn't marry each other for money. 694 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: She doesn't care about any of that. 695 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 2: She cares about work and about her career and about 696 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 2: her profession. But you know, which is something else that 697 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 2: we can talk about. Like she's fifty four years old. 698 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 2: I think she's had a remarkable life and career. She 699 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 2: hasn't been so great. I agree with you. She's not 700 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: a sheriff and Donna Dell whatever as far as singing 701 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 2: goes or acting like you know, let's say Meryl Streep 702 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 2: or any of that. But with the talent that God 703 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 2: gave her, she's done so much with it, and yes, 704 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 2: and she should be inspirational for a lot a lot 705 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 2: of young women to say, you know what, never give 706 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 2: up on your dreams. I started this way and where 707 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 2: I'm here now. So that's what I've always seemed to 708 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 2: think about. And I really do believe that she's really 709 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 2: in love with Ben, and she really is. She you 710 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 2: know sometimes and you don't hit like rock bottom, but 711 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 2: she's always so busy that she doesn't realize what's going on. 712 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 2: So when she saw that probably Ben moved out and 713 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 2: wanted some separation between them, she's like, what, like, what 714 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 2: is really happening to me right now? And seeing her 715 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 2: family is falling apart, and you know, she's a human being, 716 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 2: and like she's had four marriages already, it's like a tapano. 717 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: You know. 718 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 2: It's like you're like, you know what, like maybe you know, 719 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 2: I need to save this, Like this is the love 720 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 2: of my life, like she like she professors that it is, 721 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 2: which I really do believe it is. So why aren't 722 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 2: you fighting for it? 723 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: Drop everything right now and go fight for it. 724 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 2: And I think that that's what she's doing. That's just 725 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 2: me personally, that my friend I would love to be 726 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 2: friends with her, But. 727 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: I know you would because I think we have Like 728 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: I've actually hung out with her and had dinner with 729 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: her a few times in the nineties. I wasn't impressed. 730 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: Maybe that's why I still have like, you know, well in. 731 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 2: The nineties, who were you in the nineties. Well, she 732 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 2: had already done, Selena. 733 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: I was told in the nineties. 734 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 2: And I'm still but I want to take you some 735 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 2: kind of growth, you know, like you know when you're 736 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 2: in the nineties and she was just starting off. There's 737 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 2: a lot of insecurities. 738 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: Okay, well whatever, let's just I forgot I was going 739 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: to say I had some really important points. 740 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 2: He said, what did you just say about the nineties? No? 741 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: Before that? Oh, here's what I think. I think that 742 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: and I know you're going to agree with me. She 743 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: needs to take a break from all these QUICKI relationships 744 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: and marriages because she keeps moving her kids into these 745 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: situations with other kids and other and restarting. So what 746 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: happened with you know, a Rod's kids, they were super close. 747 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: Now she lives with Ben's kids and her kids. Yeah, 748 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: Like I don't understand that. It's like, you need you 749 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: need to consider them too. And I understand being in 750 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: love with love and you and I love that and 751 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,959 Speaker 1: we jump into stuff. I can do that as much 752 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: as I want. I don't have many kids, and I 753 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: know your relationship chips have all been long ten then 754 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: fifteen years and now another eight years like you. But 755 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: her relationships don't even last two three years. And then 756 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: she's I'm honest and moving the kids and new kids 757 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: an instant family. 758 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that that's hard. Like I don't think she's 759 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 2: made the best decisions, you know, for her family. You know, 760 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 2: maybe for her, but not for her family. And she's 761 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 2: in love with the idea of being in love. But 762 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 2: I really do think that, Like Ben was also comunga 763 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 2: how do you say. 764 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: Like when you're stubborn and stuck on. 765 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 2: Like when you really want like the fact that she 766 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 2: couldn't have them twenty three years ago, and you know, 767 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 2: so it was always like in the back of her 768 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 2: mind and then timing happened, were you know, a rod 769 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 2: supposedly cheated on her or she cheated on her and 770 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 2: she was alone filming. 771 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: Ben was alone. It was all about timing, and you know, sometimes. 772 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 3: It was like it had to be you know, what 773 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 3: I mean, it was years ago. 774 00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 2: I'm telling you know, sorry, Oh you cheated on me, Ben, No, 775 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 2: I know, but hold on. Yeah, but again, no, no, 776 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that. No, I'm saying that she was 777 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 2: like a go gittle like it was her go Gito, 778 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 2: Like he was the one that escaped, and you know, 779 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 2: she can't have anybody she wants. It was like the man, 780 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 2: the guy that escaped twenty something years ago, and she 781 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 2: was so much younger and naive and not even immature, 782 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 2: and so is he. And then they reconnected and they 783 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 2: always had that love for each other that's like really 784 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 2: hot and sexy and like any anybody, you know what 785 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 2: I mean at that stage in their life would totally 786 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 2: try again. But the truth is, and nothing's changed. They're 787 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 2: more public than ever, They're more popular than ever, they're 788 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 2: more famous than ever. Now they have kids, So now 789 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 2: you put kids into the equation. Before it's just them too. 790 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 2: Now you have five kids. Now you have five kids. 791 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 2: I don't think any of them NEPR like Ben for 792 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 2: sure hates social media, hates the paparazzi, hates the pr 793 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 2: They're never going to really believe like her side of 794 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 2: the story and I think that that's why she wanted 795 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:01,720 Speaker 2: to do that docu series. 796 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,720 Speaker 1: It's kind of like she wanted to prove to the world. 797 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 2: I think that they really that they were really in 798 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 2: love and that he always loved her and he never 799 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 2: like really left her or like he was always thinking 800 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 2: about her. She wants to prove and you see, I 801 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 2: feel like that's where she went wrong. If she would 802 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 2: have kept that all to herself, Yes she shouldn't have 803 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 2: done that. Maybe she wouldn't be but you know what, 804 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 2: she did it from her heart. She didn't think that 805 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 2: that he was not going to be okay with her 806 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 2: support it because he didn't like it. 807 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,919 Speaker 1: She's marketing her relationship. 808 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 2: She's got a song with that. It's not a good idea. 809 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 2: It's not a good idea. And I think that that 810 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 2: it's you know, she she's paying for right now. She's 811 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 2: paying for enough. 812 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 1: That relationship was doomed. 813 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 2: I think they took a pact. 814 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: That's what they say about everybody's relationship. Everybody's relationship is doomed. 815 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 2: I have it. Travis and Kelsey Odita. People start saying, oh, no, 816 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 2: they're not doomed. They're already saying no, they're already saying 817 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 2: they had a five blah blah blah. 818 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: Everybody fine, oh no, no, but yeah. 819 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 2: But it's different when you're a public peron and you 820 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 2: fight and somebody sees you and you know, and they 821 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 2: say they did they talk about it, or you leave 822 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 2: at restaurant, it's different. When you're in that you know, 823 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 2: in that platform, or whatever you want to call it. 824 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 2: It's it's very different. It's like you can't do anything 825 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 2: without people finding out. 826 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 1: Guys having an opinion. Alex Ya, they're not doomed. They're 827 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:24,280 Speaker 1: going to get married Travis and and Okay, well, pinky swear, 828 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: Jo and Ben are getting back together. 829 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 2: Oh no, they're not. 830 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 3: Yes they are, Yes they are. It's gonna get have 831 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 3: to help them. You have to go to La and 832 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 3: talk to jal. Yes, No, they're there. Yes, are you 833 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 3: agreement from the beginning? 834 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 2: Agreement? 835 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 1: You don't see it an agreement? 836 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 2: Oh my god, who can hop an agreement? 837 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: It's Hollywood. Hollywood's been doing that for years. In the 838 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 1: fifties and sixties, there were gay actors. They would put 839 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: them together with straight women, put them in the tablets 840 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 1: like they were dating because they weren't allowed to. Okay, 841 00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: well that's that different. 842 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, twenty four an agreement. 843 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: People still for she's the master at this. 844 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,439 Speaker 2: She calls the paparazzi everywhere she goes. 845 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,720 Speaker 1: She knows what she's doing. She has a whole time. 846 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: By the way, so does he. I don't think he does. 847 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 2: You know, he doesn't want it. Oh that's what he says, no, 848 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,399 Speaker 2: my love when he was with Anna Diadamas. But by 849 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 2: the way, she's keeping Oh my god, yeah, exactly, yes, yes, 850 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 2: my love. So read yourself said. You can know so 851 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 2: because I'm a fan of Anaadama. She was dating Ben. 852 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,479 Speaker 2: With Benny, you're dating Ben and the one that would 853 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 2: call the paparazzis because she's like she's an amazing, very 854 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 2: very incredible actress. 855 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, but she doesn't have like that. 856 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 2: You know, there's some actresses that have like no, yes 857 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 2: she does, but there's some people that have like that 858 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 2: stark quality power, you know, that attracts the paparazzi in 859 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,240 Speaker 2: the media to talk about them, and there's some people 860 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 2: that don't. She's beautiful, talented, but people don't really care 861 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 2: for her. But anyway, she dated Ben. She's a lot 862 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 2: younger than Ben. For like a year and a half. 863 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: No, yes, and they were super serious. 864 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 2: And the one that would call the paparazzi and it's 865 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 2: public knowledge, the one that would call the proparazzi and 866 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 2: wanted him to get to the pictures was him. 867 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: No, you know what, he wants to control it. This 868 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: is what happens. 869 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 2: He likes the paparazzi when he can control the paparazzi 870 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 2: and they can put the picture of him that he likes, 871 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 2: hold the hand, do like the whole thing when he 872 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 2: controls it. What doesn't ben like when the paparazzi gets 873 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 2: them mad for usual because it has the ship face 874 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 2: and is not opening the door to j Lo or 875 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 2: he's having a conversation with her, or he's doing when 876 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 2: they catch him in a way that he doesn't want 877 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 2: to see that people he doesn't want to see people 878 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 2: portray him that way right or be perceived. 879 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: But if not, he's okay with it. So it's like 880 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: double standards. No, I can't believe an armad what happened them? 881 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. Should be call Anna, maybe she'll tell her. 882 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 2: I mean, he should have stayed with her, She's That's 883 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 2: what I'm telling you that besides she's a very talented, 884 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,879 Speaker 2: she's very pretty, and she seems pretty normal also, by 885 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 2: the way, But I wonder why it didn't work out. 886 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 2: I feel like she's a lot younger than him. I 887 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 2: think that's that was a problem. 888 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 1: Tell me what you think about Lenny Kravitz. He hasn't 889 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: had sex in nine years. 890 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 2: Speaking of relationships, Yeah, speaking. 891 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 1: Of extreme relationships, jumping from one to another and then 892 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: like not having one and not well. 893 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 2: For that really surprised me. I would never think that 894 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 2: about Lenny Gravits, Like, he's. 895 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: Such a superstar. 896 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,399 Speaker 2: He's like a rock star. He's like everything that has 897 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 2: to do with like hottness and sexiness. I mean, have 898 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 2: you seen it? The pantsy? Oh my god, are you 899 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 2: gonna say, is peenis? No? It's penis No. But you 900 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 2: can see his penis throws rulin you're always looking at that. 901 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,439 Speaker 1: Well, he wears these very like like on gossamer type 902 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: of things that you can see his religion like right 903 00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:58,720 Speaker 1: through his pan. 904 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 2: Well, so let's be see. Celibacy is a different story. 905 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 2: You know you can wear those type pants. Well he 906 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 2: wears Yeah. 907 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 1: He's celibate, So what the hell's going on there? Okay? 908 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: In a new interview with The Guardian, krowtstold the interview 909 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 1: he's not been in a serious relationship for nine years. 910 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 2: Wow, I think Lisa was the last one. 911 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,839 Speaker 1: What, No, they've been Okay, Well, were you serious when 912 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 1: you so married a while ago that you wanted to 913 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 1: be celibate until you found the right woman. 914 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,439 Speaker 2: Yes, it's a spiritual thing. 915 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 1: He says he'd love to be in a relationship now, 916 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 1: but he thinks he might struggle. I have become very 917 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: set in my ways, in the way I live. Well, yeah, 918 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: he's sixty yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and you know what, 919 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: people are complicated. It's very hard to live with someone 920 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 1: you know, you need to be on the same damn page. 921 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: It's very different. 922 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 2: I mean, even if you're not in the same I 923 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 2: don't think you have to be in the same damp page. 924 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 2: But no, I mean you have to like meet halfway 925 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 2: and there has to be like some adjustments and like conversationations. 926 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 2: But because it's not only about like my way right right? Okay? 927 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: Could you ever be celibate for that long? And what's 928 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:08,760 Speaker 1: the longest you've been without sex? 929 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 2: Hm? Well, I think that I think not having sex 930 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,320 Speaker 2: is more like abstaining. I don't think. I don't consider 931 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 2: that celibacy. I consider I've never had celibacy never, never, 932 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 2: not that you know, because it's like you're married, but 933 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 2: for like spiritual reasons, you know what I mean. Like 934 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 2: I see more celibacy with like a spiritual meaning behind it. 935 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 2: And even though I haven't been married, I've still like 936 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 2: had sex, and I feel like that's a lot for 937 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 2: a lot of people, Like I don't believe that you 938 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 2: can only have sex if you're married, and that's part 939 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 2: of celibacy. 940 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 1: Well, how do you know you want to marry someone 941 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: and listens you have sex of course. Yeah. 942 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 2: So yeah, I just I was really in shock that 943 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 2: he that he was celibate and that he would talk 944 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 2: about it. You see, This is what I'm trying to say, 945 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 2: And like I always talk about these when we're talking 946 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 2: about hot topics that like even Camilla Cabello the other 947 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 2: day saying that she lost her virginity, uh whatever, age, 948 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,919 Speaker 2: Like who asked you? One this case? Is she who 949 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 2: asked you? Why are you talking about it now? Like 950 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,720 Speaker 2: why are you trying to get attention? Like yeah, like 951 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 2: nobody wants to know that. 952 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: By the way, I was like who cares about Camilakavello. 953 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: But by the way, I really am obsessed that the 954 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: fact the Lenny Tighte wearing pants see my penis through 955 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,720 Speaker 1: my pants, hasn't had sex in nine years. That's pretty crazy. 956 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: But I think that he's doing some Yeah, he's doing 957 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 1: a religious thing, right, So that's what I said. 958 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 2: So I said, one thing is abstaining from having sex 959 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 2: and not just having it because like you know, you're 960 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 2: stressed out about it or you're get stresses your whatever 961 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 2: your reason might be. But it's not with the spiritual 962 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 2: connection rush, whereas celibacy is you know, they believe that 963 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 2: until you don't find that partner and you marry them, 964 00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,919 Speaker 2: is not that you can have like sex with kind 965 00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 2: of right, because I mean there's other sexual things you 966 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 2: can do. And that's the other thing too, Like celibacy 967 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,959 Speaker 2: like on your own boy, it's that doesn't even count. 968 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 2: I mean, that's you're like self pleasuring yourself. Oh for sure, 969 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 2: he's like in love with it, Oh my god, for sure. 970 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 2: In Celibacy doesn't mean you can't touch your own baby. 971 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 2: Yeah you got to do Yeah, of course he's doing that. 972 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 1: We should I want to What's more concerning. 973 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,839 Speaker 2: But you know, what's more concerning with me that he's 974 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 2: not connecting spiritually with any woman. 975 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: That is the question. The question shouldn't be Women. 976 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 2: Shouldn't be like, oh my god, he's not having sex, 977 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 2: you know. 978 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 1: The question should be like, why aren't you having sex? 979 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 2: Lenny? Why aren't you connecting? In nine years? There's not 980 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 2: one woman you could have connected with spiritually. It's not 981 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 2: a weird I'm kind of like able got out. Oh 982 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you know, And I'm such a fan of 983 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 2: baby crabits. 984 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, and I actually. 985 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 2: See him here in Miami all the time and with women, 986 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 2: So like, what's going on, Lenny? How came you're not connecting? 987 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 2: But speaking of that, I feel like I've heard of 988 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 2: many other like actress and actresses more. 989 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 1: Actress, guys pay pay bills. 990 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 2: No that I don't know, but that the dude that 991 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 2: practice sell really Yeah. So I remember doing a magazine 992 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 2: cover with Eduardo. He was like this hot Mexican actor, 993 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,280 Speaker 2: you know, back in the day, and now he's actually 994 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 2: very involved with politics. 995 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 1: He's so beautiful, he's a. 996 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 2: Very handsome guy. Well now he doesn't look that great. 997 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 2: When I had him on my cover of the magazine. 998 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 2: That guy was gorgeous, like he walked in. Everybody was like, oh, 999 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:38,320 Speaker 2: I saw it, and then my job was to google them. Yeah. 1000 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 1: Well when I googled him, I'm like, I think Alexi 1001 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: and I was, and I think I saw him on 1002 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:42,439 Speaker 1: a cover. 1003 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, And everybody would always tell me like like when 1004 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 2: we met each other there, I was like, no, well 1005 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,240 Speaker 2: first I was married, but you know, every time we're hooking. 1006 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,359 Speaker 2: Oh no, everybody thought every time I had a hot 1007 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 2: guy on the cover, that would be like Alex is 1008 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,839 Speaker 2: doing whatever. It was so rude, and I think that 1009 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 2: that's why I've always thoune that my friend, Okay, thank 1010 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 2: that's good and you know me, yeah, no, I mean, 1011 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 2: and that's why I think I hate the media so 1012 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 2: much and like people, you're champing even though I'm here 1013 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 2: chaining out though. Yeah, I mean, it was like I 1014 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 2: had like the stamp in my in my forehead that 1015 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 2: it was like I was, no, it doesn't make you 1016 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 2: a boot, but you know, it was honestly like offensive, 1017 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 2: like that's what everybody thought, Like every time I had 1018 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 2: a hot cover, Oh hug guy on the cover, it's 1019 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 2: because you're doing like that's so rare. 1020 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 1: You have like a casting couch what we kind of did. No, 1021 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 1: you're silver so fu Yeah yeah, it would look like 1022 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 1: tinfoils so cool. Your whole office was very bar ba. 1023 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 2: Yeah that's always been kind of barb Yeah. But anyways, 1024 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 2: so we had it and and but this is you 1025 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 2: see what I'm talking about, Like I think it goes 1026 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,399 Speaker 2: into like being like a little weird. I mean, also, 1027 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 2: we're talking about men that have always been like so 1028 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 2: good looking. All these guys have had women throwing themselves 1029 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 2: at like it's like it's gross, you know what I mean. 1030 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,799 Speaker 2: It's like women throwing themselves at them the whole time. 1031 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 2: So they're like, I feel like he's so that he 1032 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 2: just is just know now he's married. I think he's 1033 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 2: very now. He's very now. Yeah he's married now so 1034 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 2: he's having sex. 1035 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, well okay, but the audience needs to know that 1036 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,839 Speaker 1: this man did fourteen years of celibacy. 1037 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,280 Speaker 2: Yes, So when we met him and he was on Ala, 1038 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 2: he was already practicing the Seals, sellab the sceed. So 1039 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 2: we were all like freaking out because he was like that. 1040 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 2: But I want you to know that he was so 1041 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,320 Speaker 2: serious about that. So we're trying to get him dressed 1042 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 2: and you know, there was a salast there and everything. 1043 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,840 Speaker 2: But I think we had like a few discrepancies and 1044 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 2: size because you're usually like, you know how the girls 1045 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 2: lie about their size, so two men. Yeah, so he 1046 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,799 Speaker 2: probably said he was like a size thirty in waist 1047 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 2: and he was like a thirty two. Oh But anyways, 1048 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,840 Speaker 2: so everybody was like no, I say, like he was 1049 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 2: like not liking it, like you have to go in 1050 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 2: there and talk to him and whatever. And I literally 1051 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,360 Speaker 2: opened the door and he was like, yeah, clevering, covering 1052 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,880 Speaker 2: his baby, covering his baby, And I was like, okay, 1053 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 2: And how well was he? He was in his thirties? 1054 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:57,880 Speaker 2: He was like in his thirties yeah. 1055 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,360 Speaker 1: Grown man, Yeah yeah, no, it was young holding beautiful 1056 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 1: woman to see his people. 1057 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 2: No or or anybody for that matter, but you can 1058 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 2: see like his energy was kind of like weird, you know, 1059 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,759 Speaker 2: because we know we're used to being around just like 1060 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 2: normal people. Wow, he is like so what I'm trying 1061 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 2: to say, Yeah he is. He's very religious. And actually 1062 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 2: loved that about him because I think religion is very important. 1063 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 2: I do, true, So I loved that he was religious 1064 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 2: and he's like super devla like Lavina a little bit. 1065 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 2: I know if you've seen his like his Mexican Yes, 1066 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 2: he's an incredible human being. He's done a lot for 1067 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,800 Speaker 2: It's funny we're talking about him after like all these years. 1068 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 2: I still remember his cover and but back in the day, 1069 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 2: nobody was really talking about celibacy. So everybody was like, 1070 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,839 Speaker 2: of course, what do people do. They go the other 1071 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 2: way and they start saying, oh, yeah, that's because he's 1072 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 2: you know, gay, it's not because people want to have 1073 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 2: sexic women. Yeah. Yeah. So then there were all these 1074 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 2: rumors about him, and I was like, wow, why do 1075 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 2: people just believe like that You're you know, you're just 1076 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 2: not interested, like for some people, you have to have 1077 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 2: that connection. Okay, I want to talk about his honeymoon night. 1078 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 1: I want to talk about his honeymoon night because I 1079 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 1: can't anymore. Yeah, so, after fourteen years of not having sex, 1080 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 1: what do you think his honeymoon night was? Like like 1081 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 1: he just got out of prison, right right? 1082 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah. 1083 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,759 Speaker 1: I didn't talk about it. No, no, no, I didn't 1084 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 1: read anything. I'm just imagining fourteen years you don't touch 1085 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,880 Speaker 1: a human being. My gosh, do you even think he 1086 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 1: even made it inside without having his explosion, because I 1087 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 1: would think that he would have just went like all 1088 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:34,720 Speaker 1: over the place. 1089 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,839 Speaker 2: Again, Like, I don't know how you know, Like I said, 1090 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,680 Speaker 2: celibacy could be sexual. It's usually sexual, but there's also 1091 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 2: like different degrees of celibacy, Like there's some that don't kiss, 1092 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 2: that don't touch, that don't you know within houbles, but 1093 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 2: there's some that everything's allowed except the sex and the penetration. 1094 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 2: What degree do you think I I don't know. That's 1095 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 2: very personal. Like I just by looking at you, I 1096 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 2: could tell you that, Well. 1097 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 1: If you looked at me, you know that I wasn't 1098 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:04,720 Speaker 1: doing a sexual religious starvation things. 1099 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,319 Speaker 2: Okay, I mean it's like, yeah, I don't really want 1100 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 2: to live and I want to enjoy. And the thing 1101 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,319 Speaker 2: is like I don't have problems connecting with people and 1102 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 2: either do you you know or with men you know 1103 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 2: too much? Yeah, So it's like I feel that sometimes 1104 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 2: these are personal journeys. I want to say that. And 1105 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 2: I think it's more like a masculine I think it's 1106 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 2: more of a man thing than a woman. I don't know, well, 1107 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 2: actually do know women, but the women that I know 1108 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 2: that don't have sex now or haven't had sex is 1109 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,439 Speaker 2: because they abstained. They're abstaining from sex. Like I want 1110 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,320 Speaker 2: people to realize that it's two different things. 1111 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,320 Speaker 1: And why are they upselling your friends? 1112 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:48,840 Speaker 2: So some of my friends that they're sex desire, that's A. 1113 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 2: And then B they're more selective and they're just more 1114 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 2: selective about the individual. You know, they feel like they're 1115 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,880 Speaker 2: not going to give like that away or you know 1116 00:49:58,160 --> 00:49:58,799 Speaker 2: that kind of thing. 1117 00:49:58,840 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 1: But you know why, I think it is. 1118 00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 2: A because their sex drive isn't the same. Because when 1119 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,880 Speaker 2: you're horny, you're not selective. It's true, right, So you know, 1120 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 2: so I feel that So that's a connection with that 1121 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 2: and and that's it. It's basically those two things, right, 1122 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,920 Speaker 2: But you're not into it and then you're more selective. 1123 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,360 Speaker 1: What I would think that it is. I didn't know 1124 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 1: if there was like a religious component to it. Yeah, 1125 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,720 Speaker 1: I make I make promises all the time. 1126 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:31,760 Speaker 2: Religious component? What ALRIGHTE? Like, how would this be religious 1127 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,360 Speaker 2: about sex? But look, that's why I find it interesting 1128 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 2: with Lenny Kravitz because like he's doing this like in 1129 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 2: the best years of his life, getting because I do of. 1130 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 1: Like living the life of a Buddhist. 1131 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,680 Speaker 2: What does he living? What is his Oh? Yes, religious 1132 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:46,840 Speaker 2: sometimes Yeah it is. I mean, I don't know, I 1133 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 2: didn't read about that, but he could be like that. 1134 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 2: He gives me the vibe that he could be like a. 1135 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:56,319 Speaker 1: Little literally just working out, eating super clean and. 1136 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 2: Not having sex. 1137 00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:58,399 Speaker 1: You might as well be dead. 1138 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,239 Speaker 2: I agree. I think that those are the best things 1139 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 2: in life. Yeah. 1140 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:09,239 Speaker 1: Sex, food, Yeah, and no exercise. Look, exercise. I'm the 1141 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,880 Speaker 1: epitome of all. I'm the poster child of you. No, 1142 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 1: I don't eat food. I'm not a big eater, but 1143 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 1: I do like my sexy time and my relaxation. No exercise. 1144 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 2: No, you do the liquid diet, which is perfect right. 1145 00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,879 Speaker 2: You do the liquid you you're hydrated for sure, you're 1146 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 2: not worried. 1147 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 1: About graded and you'll never see me parched and thirsty. 1148 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 2: Oh it was. It was so much fun. I feel 1149 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:34,360 Speaker 2: like we need to do in person. 1150 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 1: We're going to keep doing them in person. 1151 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:40,080 Speaker 2: Yes, I really enjoy your company, and I love that 1152 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,279 Speaker 2: you guys are listening to us. I hope you had 1153 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 2: a lot of fun with us. We've really enjoyed our time. 1154 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if you're ready for another cocky. 1155 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,760 Speaker 1: Oh, yes, you know. My husband is in the kitchen 1156 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 1: listening to us waiting for us to come back in 1157 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:56,719 Speaker 1: and have cocktails because it's cocktail. 1158 00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:58,320 Speaker 2: Cheers. 1159 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 1: Cheers. Yeah, we we love you you, so I put forward, 1160 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,800 Speaker 1: I put forward, Thanks Forward, Thank you, thanks for listening. 1161 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,560 Speaker 1: Follow us on Instagram at iPort Forward Podcast. 1162 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 2: Make sure to write us a review and leave us 1163 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,320 Speaker 2: five stars. Ataluo Astella Proxima