1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Also media recording in progress. 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: Okay, check this out now. 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: I have always been amazed by when I take a 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: second to actually tap into like my actual network of 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: just friends. 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: You know, you have friends in categories, you know what 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: I'm saying. Like it's just like this, Yeah, like. 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: You just don't really picture those things colliding or when 9 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: like your friends like meet each other and turns out 10 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: they know each other. 11 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: It's the weirdest thing anyway for me and my. 12 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: Like podcast activists, you know, activism world, you know a 13 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: lot of times overlasts with the hip hop world because 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: you know, we believe with a lot of same stuff. 15 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: But like this one like really happened where I was 16 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: just like in my own network somebody I've known for 17 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: a while who I'm just now learning. 18 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: Your name is Tristan. 19 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I didn't know your name was Jason. Yeah exactly. 20 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: You say, that's how wrap works, So introduce yourself however 21 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: you want to be introduced, yeah, you know, and then 22 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: let's let's get into it. 23 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, I'm a Tangent Wiggy aka Tristan Hacker. I 24 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 3: got a lot of other names too, but I'll keep 25 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 3: it to those for now. And I'm from Sam Bernardino UH, 26 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 3: and I'm an artist in the community with the with 27 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 3: propaganda as well as a state employee. I paid disability 28 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: claims for the State of California. And in my role 29 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 3: as a state employee, I am a union REPUH and 30 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 3: I'm an elected member of my union's executive board. So 31 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 3: I represent state employees from Ontario region, the Sam Bonardino 32 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 3: region and in between. And I'm on the bargaining team, 33 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 3: So I go up to Sacramento and help prepare for 34 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 3: bargaining against Governor of news of his team as well. 35 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 2: Words. 36 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: So so this is like with this is frontline energy, okay, 37 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: which I love about it because it's like, like you said, 38 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: like your your day job is in some ways it's 39 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: it's so crazy because it's like as far away as 40 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: that is from the actual like worker per se, like 41 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: you have just this parasocial, like intimate relationship with everybody 42 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: that works for the state because like you're seeing, you know, 43 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying, what they're going through and how great it 44 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: is to think inside of such a here be a bureaucracy, 45 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: there's somebody there that's like, no, I'm actually like fighting 46 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: for y'all. Yeah, I appreciate that word. So first of all, 47 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: tell them what the union is. Which union were talking about? 48 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, s isn't sam E is in everybody I is 49 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 3: an incredible you as in Union Service Employees International Union, 50 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 3: but one thousand, right, So SEIU is one of the 51 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 3: biggest international unions in the world. And everyone out there 52 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 3: has probably seen the purple purple SEIU stuff on all 53 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 3: kinds of stuff, from nurses to state workers, in home 54 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 3: support services workers and home care nurses, and there's a 55 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 3: lot of different people that are under SCIU. More broadly, 56 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 3: state employees in California are SEIU one thousand, So we're 57 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 3: local one thousand, and that's the broader union that. 58 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: I'm a part of all of Cali. 59 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 3: Okay, you know, all all hundred thousand state employees that 60 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: are represented, damn Okay. And but I am elected to 61 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 3: the executive board of DLC seven o four, which is 62 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: the Inland Empire, well the Ontario Samarandino, part of the 63 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 3: Inland Empire's chapter. 64 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: Word Ontario Sammarandino. Okay, this is going to be very 65 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: Cali specific. Like obviously this is everybody here who listens 66 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: ain't from here. So like I've I've cracked many LA 67 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: and I E jokes and just like you know, throughout 68 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: throughout our time, you know what I'm saying. I like 69 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: to say that I have an IE passport stamped like 70 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: I have my guy. 71 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: I worked in Pomona. 72 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: See I didn't never lived there, Okay, but you know 73 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. 74 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 3: So my strong connection to Pomona as far as I've seen, 75 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 3: I've seen you. 76 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: You absolutely that's what I mean. Like I'm a naturalized citizen. 77 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: I got a green card. I got I got an 78 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: I E Green card because like I worked at Pomona. 79 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: You know, foundation was in Pomona. My condemn Lights was 80 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: in Pomona. 81 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: For y'all listeners, These are like the hip hop and 82 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: poetry spots that I kind of grew up because since 83 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: I'm you know, born in South Centric but from the 84 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: six to six, so you me, coming from La Penteve, Linda, 85 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: Pomono is just so much more closer than La Merk Park, 86 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: you know. 87 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: What I'm saying. 88 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 3: So yeah, so. 89 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: I ended up just kind of like spending a lot 90 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: of time there and then for high school, I got 91 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: I got bussted to the Inland Empire. So I got 92 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: bussed I went to school out of district because my 93 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: parents split up. It's a long story, but anyway. 94 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 3: It happens a lot. Yeah. 95 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: So that being said, like I have a lot of 96 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: love for the Inland Empire and spent a lot of 97 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: time there. 98 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 99 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: So that's what I was like, I got I got 100 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: a visa, I got a ie visa. 101 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 102 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah. But that being said, what would you say? 103 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: I mean, if it's kind of like I'm kind of 104 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: springing this one on you, but like, what would you 105 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: say would be something that's like unique, a unique thing 106 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: that someone from where you guys are at, like a 107 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: service worker where you guys are at, it might be 108 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: a unique issue that's specific to them that wouldn't be 109 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: somewhere else. 110 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 3: I'll do two because I feel like I need to 111 00:04:58,839 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 3: to kind of to answer it. 112 00:04:59,760 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: Well. 113 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 3: One is that the Inland Empire in Highland, which is 114 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 3: a city kind of a little connected city to sanm Maerdino. 115 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 3: Highland has Patent State Hospital which is basically Arkham Asylum. 116 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 3: You know, it's basically Arkham Asylum from the Batman comics, 117 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 3: which is it's a hospital for the criminally insane. Okay, yeah, 118 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 3: you know it's like like in other words, like you've 119 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 3: committed crimes, but you have mental health issues. Yeah, so 120 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 3: you're not in the regular prison, but you're not in 121 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 3: the regular mental hospital. You are in the prison for 122 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 3: the mental patients. And it's a massive twenty four hour facility. 123 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 3: And I feel like, even though I work for EDED 124 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 3: doing disability claims, because I'm in a regional chapter with 125 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 3: the patent State hospital folks, they get a lot of 126 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 3: the attention of what the union organization does because twenty 127 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 3: four hour facilities are very, very taxing, and they're very 128 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 3: right for abuse and for people to go through really 129 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 3: difficult things. And then the second thing I would say 130 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 3: would be the fact that where we are, we have 131 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 3: a lot of we service a lot, maybe more of 132 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: my job, right, we service a lot of undocumented people, 133 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 3: Like a lot of the disability claims I pay for 134 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 3: the state I paid a undocumented folks. So which is 135 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 3: one reason that the ice stuff has been hitting so 136 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: close to home. And also people may not realize that 137 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 3: California doesn't regulate about documented status the way that the 138 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 3: federal government does. Right, so, as long as you could 139 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 3: prove your wages to the state of California in a legit, 140 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 3: straight paper work kind of way. We don't care that 141 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 3: you're in document and we're going to pay you because 142 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 3: you're a worker and you need our services. 143 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 2: Facts. 144 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: And like, I love that you said that, because when 145 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,679 Speaker 1: they talk about like how the undocumented don't pay taxes, 146 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, they. 147 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 3: Do, Yes, they do, Yes, they do, Yes, they. 148 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 2: Pay a lot. 149 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you can think of just off the head, 150 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: Like obviously over the years, the negotiations and different things 151 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: that have come up varied over time. We'll get to 152 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: the ice raids, because that's obviously where everything got super 153 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: ratchet up, ratpeted up, But like what was some of 154 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: the most like I don't, like, I don't know how 155 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: would I phrase this where you were like, this is 156 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: the most reasonable request we can ask for, Like this 157 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: is just like I don't this is so I don't 158 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: understand why this is so hard for y'all. Like this 159 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: is incredibly I just want to like calibrate because a 160 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: lot of times people here the here to wear a union. 161 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: They got all these pictures about what the things are 162 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: and what this you know what I'm saying. They got 163 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: all these pictures, But I'm just like fam. You ever 164 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: heard of a five day week? Yeah, work week, that's unions, 165 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: ma Gi, you know what I'm saying. So like that 166 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: seems very reasonable, you know what I mean? So if 167 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: you could think of like some of the things you've 168 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: had to negotiat, what was some of the most Like 169 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: this is, I don't understand why this is so hard 170 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: for y'all. 171 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: So have you ever heard you have ever heard the 172 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 3: phrase every crisis is an opportunity? Right, Yes, you've heard 173 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 3: people say that. Right. So, my union and other unions 174 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 3: have been pushing for telework, you know, being my entire 175 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 3: twenty years with the state. I'll be seventeen years veteran 176 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 3: with the state as of December. Right, Wow, the entire 177 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 3: time we wanted telework. It took the quarantine crisis of 178 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 3: twenty twenty, twenty twenty one to actually get the state 179 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 3: to agree to mass implement telework. And so that was like, 180 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 3: that's a crisis that we made an opportunity. That's like, hey, 181 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,239 Speaker 3: we need we needed telework. So many people are also 182 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 3: caring for the kids, are also caring for their elderly, 183 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 3: people in the home, caring for a new baby, or 184 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 3: you know, take you know, just at the house so 185 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: the contractors could come fix their plumbing. You know, it's 186 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: likeful like tell of work has been something that we 187 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 3: thought was very reasonable for a long time that it 188 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 3: took it took until the COVID crisis for us to 189 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 3: get telework. And we feel like we're pioneers in that 190 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 3: in a workforce way, because now there's lots of places 191 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 3: that have telework, partly because I think the work that 192 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 3: unions like us. 193 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: Have done that's dope, man. 194 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: You know, obviously coming out of the pandemic and recently 195 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: like a lot of companies are like, hey, you guys 196 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: can come back to the office and people are like 197 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: absolutely not. 198 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: Wow, Like why. 199 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 3: Take it away? Are you taking away once you got it? Yeah? 200 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, why would we do that? 201 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: I know my own like my wife, you know, she 202 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: pre pandemic at the spot she was working as she 203 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: was working at a nonprofit. You know, she was like, Okay, 204 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: I was touring so much and she was just like, dude, 205 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: like you want me in this office at a certain time. 206 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: It's stressed on the whole family. 207 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: I had to get one daughter to school, is you know, 208 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: just breaking her neck to figure stuff out. She's like, 209 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: I'm done with the stuff that can be done at 210 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: a desk within an hour. She's like, I'm just I'm 211 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: just scrolling the internet. Like I'm just like, like I'm 212 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: trying to tell you you're paying for lights, you're paying 213 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: for you're paying for audi. There's no reason, like I 214 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: don't have to be here, you know, And so she pushed. 215 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: She was just like, you know, looked up her own rights, 216 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 1: you know, figured it out and you know, without telling 217 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: her business. She uh, she actually helped the staff unionize. 218 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: There, Like you know what I'm saying. She was like, look, man, 219 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: it's ridiculous. You know what I'm saying. 220 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 4: You got a real one, Yeah, don't don't. Don't google 221 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 4: it anyway. 222 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: So, yeah, so something that you had to you know, 223 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: you said, you actually go to the state, you you 224 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: interact with Gavin Newsom, you know, which is the whole thing. 225 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: Sure we have our opinions on mister Newsom, sure, you know, 226 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: and like how allied are you as an ally. 227 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 2: Like you always say and you know, if you were complicated. 228 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: We can't always agree on the same things, you know 229 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, but like that's correct. There has 230 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: been there have been times where it's been like, hey, 231 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: you know what, sou he's. 232 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 3: Doing something dope, and then other times when he's not, yeah, 233 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 3: doing something though the other times it's like broh, who 234 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 3: are you? 235 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, like what is happening right now? 236 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: So obviously you know when you go up there, you're 237 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: you're not interacting with him, You're interacting with his team, right. 238 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 3: Yeah. The one time I actually met him, I went 239 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: to the California Democratic Party convention in twenty twelve in 240 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 3: San Diego, and I just went with a friend, just 241 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 3: showed up. I was not a delegate. I was a 242 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 3: Union rep already, but I had no official role. I 243 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 3: just showed up and walked around the San Diego Hilton, 244 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 3: which is also where they founded San Diego Comic Con. Yeah, 245 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 3: and I got to meet a lot of officials, including 246 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 3: some inland ones, including some really famous people like Nancy 247 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: Pelosi's daughter. But I went up to I went up 248 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 3: to left the time Lieutenant Governor Newsom and basically thanked 249 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 3: him because he had just voted against the tuition hype 250 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 3: for the cal States and UC. And I was and 251 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 3: I went to cal say, Sammary, you know I have 252 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 3: my master's in poetry, my MFA and poetry from cal 253 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 3: say Sammarino. And so I was still a student at 254 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 3: the time, and he had just voted against a tuition increase. 255 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 3: So there's a picture of me meeting him from that 256 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 3: from that time. 257 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 2: That's all. That's great. 258 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And he had just done something good and 259 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 3: he and he said humble things about it when I 260 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 3: thanked him for it. So my one personal interaction with 261 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 3: him was good. But since then, when in the capacity 262 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 3: of the union, I deal with his bargaining team, like 263 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 3: my our bargaining team deals with his bargaining team instacramental where. 264 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: Okay, so give me one something that's been like opposite 265 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: where what they were asking for. Yeah, it was like 266 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: this is completely unreasonable, guys, Like what are you talking about? 267 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 3: So every three years, every three years, our state employee 268 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 3: contract goes up, uh huh, right, And so around the 269 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 3: two year mark we start gearing up negotiations, you know, 270 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 3: and the state newsom has the power to summon us 271 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 3: for negotiation, and we have the power to summon his 272 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 3: team for negotiations. Right, So at that two year mark 273 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 3: we start negotiating. So in twenty twenty two, we started 274 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 3: negotiating about the twenty twenty three expiring, you know, so 275 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 3: that by the end of twenty three we could have 276 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 3: a new contract. Then your state employee, it's difficult. It's 277 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 3: hard to strike, right, Like you have to have an 278 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: extremely high threshold to strike. Like if you're a a 279 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 3: private company in you're union, it's a lot easier to strike. 280 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 3: You guys don't want to strike, you strike Like that 281 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 3: episode of The Simpsons, the omber became the union. They're 282 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 3: just like dental plan. You know, they started striking right 283 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 3: with the state because we provide essential services to Californians 284 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 3: in need. It is an extremely high threshold in terms 285 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: of what it would take for us to legally be 286 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 3: allowed to strike, right, and Newsom and his team know that, 287 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 3: so they could kind of like really slow walk negotiations 288 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 3: and stop negotiating in good faith. But as long as 289 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 3: there's like you know what, there's signs of life on 290 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 3: the hospital ticker of the negotiations, then we're still obligated 291 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 3: to not strike down, right. So in twenty twenty three 292 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 3: our contract expired, Newsom was offering us one or two 293 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 3: percent raised for the next three years, and meanwhile he 294 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 3: was going on TV saying, oh, debate Ron. 295 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 2: Desantish during that time. 296 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 3: I want to help the screen Actors Guild finish their 297 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 3: contract and the Screenwriters Guild, and I want to So 298 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 3: it's like, well, whoa bro, where are your kids? Why 299 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 3: are you trying to go help their kids? 300 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it was. 301 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 3: Like, why you're not negotiating with us, but you're on 302 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 3: TV talking about I want to help Harrison Ford and 303 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 3: I want to help, you know, I want to help 304 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 3: the actors get their contract. And it's like, so i'd something. 305 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 3: I I made a TikTok recently about how I think 306 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 3: my h my lefty friends, and I'm lefty to help 307 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 3: of course, but like artist friends, anti establishment friends, you know, 308 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 3: leftist friends, I think hate Democrats in stupid ways, whereas 309 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 3: there are smart ways to hate democrats right, Like, to me, 310 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 3: the stupid, the stupid way to hate Democrats is to 311 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 3: be like, oh, both parties are the same, I'm going 312 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 3: to sit out and let Republicans win and hurt us worse. Yeah, right, 313 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 3: to me, the smart way to hate on Democrats is 314 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 3: to realize when they're doing a good thing here, they're 315 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 3: distracting you from a bad thing here, and then they're 316 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 3: doing a bad thing here. They're distracting you. You know, 317 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 3: it's like a good thing, right, So, like Newsome at 318 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 3: times might be capitulating to Trump on something federally, but 319 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 3: then he does something good state domestically in the state 320 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 3: to kind of keep his reploff. Or the reverse. Maybe 321 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 3: he's fighting with Trump on something and that's good, but 322 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 3: he's doing some wax shit like slow walking our contract negotiates. 323 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 3: We're not Hollywood actors, right, so when our contract goes up, 324 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 3: you didn't get the news about it, like with the 325 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 3: Screen Actors Guild, because that's slapping your Hulu, that's stopping 326 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 3: your Disney. Plus, you know you hear all about that. 327 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 3: When our contract expires, you don't hear about it unless 328 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 3: you're on disability, unless you're on one of our programs. 329 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 3: And then you can't go to the office because because 330 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 3: we're understaffed or because something's going wrong with us. Right, 331 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 3: So twenty twenty three was a pissed off time for 332 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 3: us because he's offering us peanuts. He was offering to 333 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 3: help everybody else. Let me help the actors, let me 334 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 3: help the screenwriters, Let me fight Ron DeSantis, Let me 335 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 3: go go to Washington and have federal fights. Meanwhile, we're 336 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 3: our contract expired. And when our contract expired, there's things 337 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 3: we lose. There's stuck things we lose, there's benefits we lose. 338 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: And he just so he has had us in a bind. 339 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 3: So I organized a work site picket at my office 340 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 3: in San Unardino a one hundred and two degree weather. 341 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 3: We can't strike, but we can pick it. Wow, Okay, 342 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 3: I didn't know that, you know, so that that's part 343 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 3: of being a union rep is like what are my tools? 344 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 3: You know? Like what are my tools? Like? No, your 345 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: know your arsenal, know your weaponry, right, And so I 346 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 3: organized to picket. We had signs me and and I'm 347 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 3: just I tear up and I think about this because 348 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 3: I had coworkers, but I didn't think we're going to 349 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 3: march in the heat with me. I thought it might 350 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 3: have been me by myself. 351 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: You know. 352 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 3: I was one of only one or two union reps 353 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 3: in my office at the time. Now we have four 354 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 3: because I've been recruiting, you know, and I have good 355 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 3: people in my office, you know, But at the time, 356 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 3: I was one of the only union reps. There's people 357 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 3: who I knew had legits get the system about the 358 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 3: union I didn't expect it. But every single lunch, not 359 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 3: just my lunch, at every lunch, we had people picketing 360 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 3: in front of my office with signs, people were honking 361 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 3: in support of us. Within a month or two, we 362 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 3: got an eight percent raise on that next negotiation. Let's go, 363 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 3: you know. And so you know, when we fight, we win, 364 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 3: When we unite, we win. You know, like you don't. 365 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 3: We're not fighting for nothing. And that was a dru 366 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 3: or die moment for me as a union organizer because 367 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: I hadn't had many real fights yet, and I had 368 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 3: I couldn't really point to my co workers and say, hey, 369 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 3: we did this and got this. We did this and 370 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 3: got this. So the fact that I got my co 371 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 3: workers tomorrow marching one hundred two degree with me instead 372 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 3: of just sitting in the air condition having lunch, and 373 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 3: that we won that. A few weeks later, they said, 374 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 3: you're going to get a eight percent rais that's hard? 375 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 3: You know? Like I was like, yes, like proof of concept. 376 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 3: I have proof of concept. I'm not just wasting my 377 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 3: coworker's time. I could tell you there's a tangible results 378 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 3: when we organized together. 379 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: See that's these are the type of like wins. We 380 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: need to hear because we've been we've been taking some ails, 381 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: like yes, sir speaking to l so, y'all's y'all's s 382 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: CiU one thousand. 383 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: You know they were ware a right, that's his name. 384 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 3: M David Wad is from one of the California s 385 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 3: CiU branches. He's tightly connected to our union. 386 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: But he's not one, he's not one thousand, okay words, 387 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: but he is c CiU, so he is part of us. 388 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 389 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: So when I, you know, invaded our streets, yes, he 390 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: was outside, you know, doing what he had to do. 391 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: I know s s CiU set up the thing at 392 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: Alvera Street. Yeah, they set up a location there for 393 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: like to educate. It was just such a beautiful thing. 394 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: But the first thing that got me out the house 395 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: was the rally for when he was detained. So like, man, 396 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: tell me what was going on and as much as 397 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: you can behind closed doors. So most of the listeners 398 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: here know this story because this show is like pretty 399 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 1: tapped in. 400 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:11,479 Speaker 2: But yeah, right m hm. 401 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 3: So what I would say is this to me an 402 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 3: opportunity to talk about like the cultural differences with Inland 403 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 3: and LA right, because the Union is very progressive right, 404 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 3: But the Inland is a much more conservative area, right, 405 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 3: And compared to Los Angeles, compared to San Francisco, compared 406 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 3: to you know, it's not as big of a city. 407 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 3: It's more impoverished. 408 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that. 409 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 3: There's a lot of you know, even just the geography 410 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 3: of it, right. People me grew up in the city, 411 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 3: like my mom grew up around where you're talking about 412 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 3: day and a month day. I was born in the monthday, right, 413 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,959 Speaker 3: But there was a suburban exodus in the late eighties 414 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 3: of like people who wanted to go from that east 415 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 3: of late six to six area to raise their kids 416 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 3: in the Inland because that was the more conservative suburbs. 417 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: Right. 418 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 3: So for me, every time something like that happens, with 419 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 3: something like a David Watar or something in one of 420 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 3: the bigger cities happens and we're fighting with the with 421 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 3: the right wing about things, it's a matter of me 422 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 3: educating my Inland people about why we care and we're okay, 423 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 3: you know, and then there's always some people and I 424 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 3: got to respect this. As a union organizer, I really 425 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 3: have to be able to talk with my more conservative 426 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 3: members because there are people in the union that are 427 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 3: not super progressive warriors like me. They're just workers who 428 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 3: want to be represented. Right. 429 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, that's actually a good point to 430 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: hammer down because like last year, one of the shows 431 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: on our network covered a union strike at a I 432 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: want to say, it was like a metal plant in Alabama, 433 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: like in the sticks of Alabama. 434 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: These are good old boys from the South. 435 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: But one thing we can agree on, me is like, 436 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: pay me what I'm worth, Like yo, saying like it 437 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: just seemed pretty simple to me. I don't understand how 438 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: you got to be a progressive to want to be 439 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: paid what you're worth, you know. So so I think 440 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: that that's a good point to say that, Like, even 441 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: in a rather conservatives place, all of us want to 442 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: go home and eat, you know, and earn the wages 443 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: that I. 444 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: That I should be. Pay me what I'm worth. 445 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 3: It just it seemed that simple, exactly. And so so 446 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 3: that's a tension that happens, right, And this is kind 447 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 3: of this is probably a discussion that happens among a 448 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 3: lot of progressive groups in general, that like, there's people 449 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 3: who want you to focus on your issue, but there's 450 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 3: also people who recognize that we're part of an interconnected society, 451 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 3: where it's like, if the immigrants are being harmed, then 452 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 3: the laborers are being harmed. If the artists are being harmed, 453 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 3: then the nurses are being harmed, if the teachers. You know. 454 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 3: So there's always that divide, But in the Inland, which 455 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 3: is a more conservative area, there's especially that divide between 456 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 3: people who are like, I don't want my union fighting 457 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 3: about immigration and ice. I don't want my union fighting 458 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 3: about the environment. 459 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 2: Wow, I don't want the. 460 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 3: Union fighting about LGBT. I just want the union to 461 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 3: fight for my race. I want the union to fight 462 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 3: for my telework and that's all I want them to do, right. 463 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 3: So that's a big thing for me is to kind 464 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 3: of explain to people how, no, David where that fighting 465 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 3: for immigrant rights is him fighting for you as a worker. Okay, 466 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 3: you know, because if they came for then they could 467 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 3: come for you, you know. So that's kind of how 468 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 3: I see that. 469 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, did you feel like it landed? 470 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 3: Well, it always does with some and it doesn't with some. 471 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 3: You know, I'll be honest with you. There are people 472 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 3: who just left the union after the Charlie Kirk killing. 473 00:19:59,320 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 2: Oh wow. 474 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 3: In my opinion, they're going to really weird logic jumps 475 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 3: when they're like, well, the union endors Kamala, and Kamala 476 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 3: has supporters that are happy about Charlie Kirk dines with 477 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 3: in the union. Yeah, I'm like, uh so you don't 478 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 3: want that raise. 479 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: You really ran string in that joint, you know. 480 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: That is definitely the all Bay Sunny in Philadelphia meme 481 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: of just you like tie these strings together, like bruh, 482 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. 483 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, And so, to be honest, there's been some 484 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 3: of that. You know, I'll say this that Charlie Kirk 485 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 3: gave us more of that than that immigration stuff. But 486 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 3: there's always those few whispers from a few people who 487 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 3: are like they're just not down with the broader cause. 488 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 3: Those of us who are in the leadership of the union, 489 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 3: I think we have solidarity. You know, we have solidarity 490 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 3: not just with other state workers, but with anyone who's 491 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 3: in any SAAU. Yeah, with Team Skirts and anyone who's 492 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 3: in any union, and with Californians, anyone who is somebody 493 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 3: who is in a vulnerable group, you know. And so 494 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 3: there's just always that difference of the opinion. I would say, 495 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 3: over let's say sixty percent hits in a good way 496 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 3: and in my area because it's so conservative, let's say 497 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 3: forty percent, it doesn't you know some. 498 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 2: Way you work on that's interesting? Okay. My last two questions. 499 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: Would be this, like I've given them both, Like, so 500 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: what do y'all currently kind of like pushing for. I'm 501 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: assuming it has a lot to do with immigration and 502 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: ice rays and stuff, but also in what ways can 503 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: we as just a broader community help? 504 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 3: Well? How do I put this? So I work in 505 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 3: downtown sam Ardino, okay, and my disability office is next 506 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 3: to the Mexican Consulate. 507 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 2: Let's go. 508 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: First of all, we need to paint the picture of 509 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: Sam Bernardino. I really feel like, yeah, for those that 510 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: don't know California, the nature of what Sam Bernardino is 511 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: is a part of this story that you might be missing. 512 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: First of all, Like, okay, all that you pictured, everything 513 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: that everybody else pictures around what you thought Compton was 514 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: in the nineties, all the pictures that you think YO 515 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: said that you go, oh, it's really Sam Bernardino. 516 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 517 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: So I mean I'm trying to say this in a 518 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: way that's a descriptive and not derogatory, because obviously like 519 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: it's always Kali love for me, and you know, I'll 520 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: of course, yeah. But there is a certain there's a 521 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: certain part of Sam Bernardino that feels like like just 522 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: a spirit of like we just gave up the walking Dead, 523 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: the walking Debt's exactly it. It feels like a zombie land, 524 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: like just this dark I remember the Carousel mall, Like 525 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: you walk by that mall, it's eerie. It just feels 526 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: like when people talk about the Forgotten Man, the Forgotten America. 527 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,239 Speaker 1: I'm like Sam Bernardino, like, yes, Win done gave up 528 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: on that city. 529 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it had recently gone from two hundred and thirty 530 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 3: thousand people to only two hundred thousand people. But also 531 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 3: probably because a lot of people that left were the 532 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 3: most impoverished people. Our poverty rate went from let's say, 533 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 3: in the post Bush Shoo recession, like twenty ten, we 534 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 3: had a thirty percent poverty rate. We were the most 535 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 3: impopulous city in the state. We've gotten down to like 536 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 3: seventeen percent poverty, which is still bad. Yeah, you know, 537 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 3: that's still almost one one out of five people. What 538 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 3: was it? It's very diverse, I mean, and someone who 539 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 3: pays anention in to politics it has all the problems 540 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 3: exactly like you said, all the problems that people talk 541 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 3: about when they say the important problems. It's post industrial, 542 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 3: there's gun violence, it's diverse, there's poverty. You know, there's 543 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 3: environmental issues because it's such a warehouse empire. Yeah, because 544 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 3: it's such a you know, area of freight and warehouses. 545 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 3: It's like the air quality is some of the worst 546 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 3: in the state. Yeah, you know, we we have real problems. 547 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 3: You know, we got real problems. And in downtown downtown 548 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 3: Sammer do you know, is a lot of where the 549 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 3: problems are. We want to get it, like downtown Redlands 550 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 3: and downtown Riverside and some of the other NICs of downtowns. 551 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 3: But it's just not there yet. And there are people 552 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 3: absolutely working on that. And like there are a couple 553 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 3: of alleyways in the city that sounds so it sounds 554 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 3: so humble, but we have a couple of alleyways in 555 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,959 Speaker 3: the city that got five hundred thousand dollars grants recently 556 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 3: to kind of make them an ARC's alleyway to kind 557 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 3: of look like something more like the Claremont Village let's go, 558 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 3: you know, And so yeah, you know, and so we 559 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 3: are always working on it, and I will always you know, 560 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 3: as somebody who founded co founded the Inland Empire Music 561 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 3: Award Show and other platforms that I put on not 562 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 3: just my art, but I helped put on other artists 563 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 3: in the Inland. I will always tell you about the 564 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 3: amazing tacoic you to get in my CD, the amazing 565 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 3: small businesses you can spport my city, the amazing art community, yeah, 566 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 3: put on by my by my ogs like Judah one 567 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 3: of Pomona, like Noah James of the Inland and Lisa 568 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 3: j and many others you know who helped build a 569 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 3: really beautiful ecosystem, like there's there's please come come to summery, 570 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 3: you know, and hit me up and I'll take you 571 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 3: to save beautiful sports of it, you know. 572 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: But yes, it's it's rough to your point. I know, 573 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: I want you to get to the next thing. But 574 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: to your point that was the same as that picture 575 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: of content to where it's like yes, like in the 576 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: sense that like we know it's dangerous, we know there's poverty, 577 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: we know there's that, but there's beauty here stuff, you know, 578 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: and let me come like and again like just the 579 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: hood rules where it's like well, you with me, like, 580 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: so you're good, you know what I'm saying, Like you know, 581 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: and some of them may yeah, like we can, we 582 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: can definitely shine lights like I said, Like, you know, 583 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: I've talked about Noah James on this show. 584 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 2: You know I'm saying, I've talked about Juda one. 585 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 1: You know that I talked about sincere C four, like 586 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: the people that like I came I came up with. 587 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, the Inland Empire. 588 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: A lot of the stuff that the nation attributes to 589 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: LA is really ie. You know what I'm saying, Yes, sir, 590 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: And we know, like we know because they're not lying 591 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: about it. We know that matter of fact, nobody has 592 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: pride about I. He got pride, boy, Like they're like no, no, no, no, 593 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: we are to Inland. 594 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 2: And I love that about y'all. 595 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 3: Anyway, I'm wearing my Jaden Daniels check it out. 596 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 2: Yup, yup, yop yup. 597 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 3: You know, yeah, because I got a highs I gotta hides. 598 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, So anyway, so your office is next 599 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: to the Mexican Consulate. 600 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 3: Mexican Consulate, right, and so I've actually spent my you know, 601 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 3: I've been at this office in Samaradino since twenty fourteen, 602 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 3: and five years before that I worked in the Riverside office. 603 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 3: But I've been in my office in Chamuary No. Twenty fourteen, 604 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 3: and I have gone to so many I've infiltrated so 605 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 3: many right wing protests that are in front of the 606 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 3: Mexican Consulate. Yes, and like and like, so I'll go 607 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 3: hang out with them. They're like, oh, what do you guys, 608 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 3: what are you guys doing? And then I'll like take 609 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,479 Speaker 3: their markers, I'll take their posters and I'll just kind 610 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 3: of be like, oh, yeah, maybe you have a point there. 611 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 3: And then I'm like, I'm in my office. And then 612 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 3: my secretary is, you know, the secretary of my office 613 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 3: is like, oh, where'd we get these markers? Loot? I 614 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 3: got you some mark because it's you know. And so 615 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 3: I'll infiltrate right wing protests. But but on the flip side, lately, 616 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 3: you know, Ice knows they could come to my corner. 617 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 3: And my corner in downtown has the Chase Bank, the 618 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 3: Wells Fargo Bank, the Mexican Consulate, the Disability Office, the 619 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 3: old City Hall building. Like it's it's like the hub. 620 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 3: It's one of the downtown hubs of the city, and 621 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 3: Ice has been coming and snatching people up in front 622 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 3: of my office. It happened. It's happened twice at least 623 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 3: in the last month. And one of the days that 624 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 3: it happened, I was in the office. I called my congressman, 625 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 3: I called the mayor. I got all the local authorities involved. 626 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 3: By the end of the day, the horse mounted unit 627 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 3: of my city's police was like patrolling to make sure 628 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 3: Ice wasn't messing with us. Wow, And I tell you, homie, 629 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 3: what a weird place this is. I've never been so 630 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 3: happy to see the regular cops. 631 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,479 Speaker 2: Right right right, you know, what is this? 632 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 3: What is this? Timeline? Are you doing to me? What 633 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 3: are you doing to me? We're like, I'm in I'm 634 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 3: in seven eleven at six in the morning, getting my 635 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 3: getting my coffee, and I see regular cops. I'm like, 636 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 3: thank you, sir for at least jong a warret. 637 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly, rest me, yeah exactly. 638 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 3: You know, because Ice is doing none of that, none 639 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 3: of it. None of that. They're not doing warrant to 640 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 3: do it. They took I don't want to cry. They 641 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 3: pushed a wife out of the way. She's like what 642 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 3: are you doing? They took the husband, tossed him in 643 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 3: the band and drove off. It all happened so fast 644 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 3: that no one was able to film it. Damn you, No, 645 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 3: in this era, no one was able to film it. 646 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 3: And they know how they're doing it that fast. 647 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 2: That's the trick. 648 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the trick. 649 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 2: That's what we've been telling. 650 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: Like a lot of people have asked me, just friends 651 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: from out of town, like, dude, has it has it 652 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: toned down? And I was like, no, it just went underground. 653 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: It's like they just they're a lot more sneaky now, 654 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: Like it's not this big display of power. It's more 655 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 1: the sniper guerrilla warfare to where like you said, you 656 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: just get in your gas like you usually how your 657 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: plumbing gas and then somebody just and it's so fast, 658 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: I can't film it, you know what I'm saying. Yes, 659 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 1: And the hard part for me is like is to 660 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 1: your point to where it's like, since you know, identifying yourself, 661 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: like you might not even be an ice agent. 662 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 3: And that's a thing that happened. That's the thing that 663 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 3: there are people who impersonate law enforcement officers and go 664 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,479 Speaker 3: harassed people just on a racist basis. Yeah, you know, 665 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 3: and and and it's arguable that the Trump administration is 666 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 3: empowering people like that. M h Man. Yeah, so so yeah, 667 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 3: it absolutely is happening. To be honest, my union, Uh, 668 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 3: we're going to always support the actions that are fighting 669 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 3: back against it. But the but the only things that 670 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 3: we really have jurisdiction to actually fight h is the 671 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 3: labor religious word, you know. And so you know, we 672 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 3: we actually just got telework extended in exchange for delaying 673 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 3: our rais you know, because the states really broke right 674 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 3: now for a lot of reasons. Yeah, we delayed for 675 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 3: two years a raise that we were about to get 676 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 3: in July, so there were already couple of months past 677 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 3: not having that raise. But in exchange, we got our 678 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 3: telework agreement extended for two years. So what I would 679 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 3: tell people who want to get involved is like, if 680 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 3: you are in a workplace that has a union, get involved, 681 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 3: you know. Or if you had someone in your life 682 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 3: like me who does union stuff outside of work. Next 683 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 3: time they invite you to a phone banker, next time 684 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 3: they invite you to an event, go support Because we're 685 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 3: absolutely we were at the No Kings protest, We're at 686 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 3: the anti ice protest like like like we're in the 687 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 3: unofficial capacity, we're gonna we're going to do all those 688 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 3: kind of things to support the broader community. And even 689 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 3: though it's my union. For example, on Wednesdays we have 690 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 3: a lot of our meetings, we're doing a phone banking 691 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 3: for Prop fifty right, which is the whole redistrict, which 692 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,719 Speaker 3: gives us the power to take some seats away from 693 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 3: the Republicans. I know there's a lot of there's a 694 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 3: debate to be had there, but ultimately it's us trying 695 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 3: to keep some power away from the right wing. And 696 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 3: you don't have to be in my union to go 697 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 3: to those phone banks. If you want a phone bank 698 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,719 Speaker 3: to help Prop fifty pass, so we could take some 699 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 3: Republican seats away from the federal House representatives, hit me up, 700 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 3: hit up anybody you know in the Inland Empire chapter 701 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 3: of SEIU, and we can bring you to a phone 702 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 3: bank in Ontario and we'll get pizza or barbecue or whatever, 703 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 3: and we could phone bank against these dang Republicans. 704 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, Man Tangent, I appreciate this, man, I appreciate you. 705 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 3: Man. I've wanted to have wanted you to have me on. 706 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 3: I love your show and I love you man. I 707 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 3: think you're such a cool dude. I think you wise. 708 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 3: I think that you're engaged in the community in a 709 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 3: cool way. You're an artists I respect a lot, and 710 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 3: not just me. I mean people friends like sincere like 711 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 3: explain to me why you're significant to them and why 712 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 3: you're an influence and stuff like that. So I appreciate 713 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 3: even being on your radar. 714 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 2: Brother, man, stop it, stop it some more. I'm just kidding. 715 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: My wife says that, okay, so perfect. 716 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: Well, then tell us how people need to hear your music, 717 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: how they can get in touch with you, how they 718 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: can follow you. 719 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 2: Give me all the links. 720 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah yeah. So uh t A n J 721 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 3: I n T is tangent. You know you can find 722 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 3: me on everything on Twitter, Instagram, you know, Facebook. What 723 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 3: was it the Inland Empire Music Award show that I'm 724 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 3: a co director and co founder of. Is that it's 725 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 3: only Empire dot com. That's its only Empire dot com. 726 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 3: And also I want to encourage Inland Empire artists. You know, 727 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 3: you still have from now to the end of September 728 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 3: to submit to the award show, and we've been doing 729 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 3: it for three years. We partner with nonprofits and businesses. 730 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 3: We throw a dope ass's skinny gala. 731 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 2: Yeah you know, a award. 732 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 3: Show at a little art center in downtown senmmer Den 733 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 3: with the Garcia Center for the Arts. Or we give 734 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 3: away real trophies and real awards and we have red 735 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 3: carpet media and performances. It's like it's like the Grammys 736 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 3: for the Inlant Empire. So you know, please get involved 737 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,959 Speaker 3: in Its only Empire dot com. That's only Empire now. 738 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: Now. 739 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 3: Famli Likely is my group with Diesel. We got a 740 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 3: new album out that's like scam likely on your phone, 741 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 3: but fam likely because it's likely that you're family hitting 742 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 3: you up. Fam Likely. West Coast Avengers is my first group, 743 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 3: the more nerd core Inland Empire stuff and we got 744 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 3: an album that came out just under a year ago now, 745 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 3: The Harvest. So I'm everywhere. 746 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 2: You can catch everything all over the place. 747 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Tangent Wiggle, thank you so much, my brother, Hey. 748 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 3: Thank you man much love. 749 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 5: It could happen Here is a production of cool Zone Media. 750 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 5: For more podcasts from cool Zone Media, visit our website 751 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 5: cool Zonemedia dot com or check us out on the 752 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 5: iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. 753 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 5: You can now find sources for it could happen here 754 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 5: listened directly in episode descriptions. Thanks for listening.