WEBVTT - Surviving the Ultimate Sucky Date 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:04.520 Hell I Suck At Dating with Dean, Vanessa and Jared 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:10.000 and I Heart Radio Podcast. Hello and welcome to an 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:12.360 all new episode of Help I Suck At Dating. My 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:17.400 name is Jared Haven Not joined today by Dean. Yeah, 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:21.160 we should take attendance a little light. Jared havan here, 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:30.120 Vanessa Gribaldi, Dean Anglert. Actually this might be a better 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:35.120 one when I say bueller Vanessa Grimaldi. Ah, that's a 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:38.599 better one. As you guys have probably guessed, Vanessa will 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:40.840 be on the line, but she's just taking a little 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:43.400 break right now. She'll be back here in a second. Um, 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:45.320 But we had an airport. She's at an airport like 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:47.680 she just landed. She just landed somewhere. I think she was. 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:49.839 I think she might be in New York now. I 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:52.760 don't know if she's traveling from Montreal or to Montreal. 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:55.680 You know, I gotta say what she's doing right now. 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:57.400 It's something she likes to talk about a lot, so 0:00:57.720 --> 0:00:59.960 you know, with some people this would be inappropriate to say. 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:02.600 Bit she is using the bathroom, which she loves talking about. 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:06.080 I have trouble after an air after a long flight, uh, 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:09.200 using the stopped up for a while. Yeah, well, there 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:12.319 are a few things that hurt me more than using 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:16.440 a public bathroom at the airport. It takes me about 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:20.160 ten minutes just to get the stall ready for everything, 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:23.120 because I don't I don't just put toilet paper down. 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:26.880 I put about seven layers of toilet paper down. Sometimes 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:29.560 the things they give you know, because that's the worst 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:32.640 invention I've ever seen. Have you ever tried to use 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:37.240 one of those plastic covers for the toilet? They always rip, 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:41.240 They're so flimsy, and like sometimes I feel like they 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:44.280 just they get wet. They soak up the water from 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:46.440 the toilet, because no matter what public bathroom you're in, 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:49.440 it's soaked. For whatever reason, people just can't use the 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:52.120 toilet or the urinal or the sink correctly. I always 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:54.600 assume I'm using it wrong, and that's why I'm ripping 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:55.880 it or doing because I was. They were taught how 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:57.440 to use those that I am always alone when I'm 0:01:57.520 --> 0:01:59.640 using them, so I must not know how to use these. 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.640 But Sysony from the Seacrest Show had a theory that 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:05.400 that flap, what the hell is that she thinks that's 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:08.240 supposed to go over the front of the bowl to 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:13.959 stop your underpants from touching the bowl. There's no not 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:17.680 that whatever company creates those did not invest that type 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:19.799 of money for your underwear. I think it goes in 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:22.240 the water to ensure that it gets pulled down when 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:26.040 you flush. But that's disgusting. Well, it's all disgusting, but 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:28.240 I know, but when I can't, Like when I see 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:30.519 the flap, I'm like, all right, we're gonna get a 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:32.840 little bit t m I. But I think to myself, 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:35.000 not only is that flap in the water, but it 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:39.200 will be in the midst of also something that is 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:43.360 entering the water. As I said, no, but I just 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.760 feel gross because then it's just it's all connected, right, 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:47.600 because that flap is connected to the paper that I'm 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:50.280 sitting on, and then you know, my poop is going 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:52.959 to be hitting the flap, and then I'll be sitting 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:56.440 also on the other part. It's just today when I 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:58.800 do that ripping thing, and I ripped the whole thing apart, 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:01.360 I wondered. I wondered, at one point in my life, 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:04.359 am I not supposed to rip it? Is my natural 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:09.200 bodily function going to rip it automatically? Well, I think 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:12.400 that's a theory you should test out next time. They're traveling, 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:15.920 the holidays are around somewhere. Things. I think they're more 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:17.760 trouble than their word. So are you do you use 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:20.960 toilet paper? Use nothing? You just go Yeah, you think 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:26.240 less of me, not that I respected you, And I thing. 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:29.400 There's bacteria galore on that seat. It's the only going 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:32.640 to touch the back of my thigh, and I'm I 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:34.840 don't have any way of ingesting that bacteria into my 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:37.840 body through my thigh. I'm not gonna lick the cover 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:40.240 of the seat. I'm just gonna sit on it. And 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:43.560 so I've decided that's okay. I've rationalized it. That's fair. 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:47.440 I don't think that's crazy. Man, We're really getting some 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:50.840 good content. I'm just talking about toilet seat covers. Found 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:53.960 attaches it to your to your rear end like a 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:57.240 paper machet, almost like you're like wallpaper like, and then 0:03:57.280 --> 0:03:59.520 it's just on there forever, I'm wearing one right now, 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.040 you have about seven. I can see they're coming through 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:06.200 your pants. Try or again would So we're currently calling Vanessa. 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:09.120 Vanessa is traveling either to or from Montreal as she 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:12.320 does Dean. Have you seen his Instagram? He's traveling all 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:15.800 around the world yet again, this man. I don't know 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:20.479 where he is, but it's a beautiful location. I wish. 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:23.520 Do you guys travel Have you guys ever really traveled alone? No? No, 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.800 never really alone. I mean a little bit with for work. Yeah, 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:29.800 But have you ever just gone to a location by yourself? 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:32.919 I don't think I have either. It takes a certain 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:35.520 kind of person, and I think to say I respect it. 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:38.040 I respect that kind of person. I envy it. I 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:41.040 wish I had that type of personality. I I like 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:44.720 going places, but only like a few years ago. First 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.120 time ever went to Los Angeles, I traveled by myself, 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:49.520 but I had a friend here that I stayed here with, 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:53.000 And so I do travel alone. But I wouldn't say 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:56.279 I travel to places and then stay by myself and 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.120 then really just make friends on a whim. I don't 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:00.599 think I have that type of personality either. Eastan, could 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:02.919 you travel by yourself? Oh? Yes, I do lots of 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:05.599 stuff by myself. Where's the craziest Well, hold on, there's 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:08.480 a difference between doing things by yourself and traveling by yourself. 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:11.279 Because I like someone like Dean. I mean he's traveling 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:14.240 from country to country to country by himself and not 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:18.000 meeting friends there. He's just going to these places on 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:21.200 his on his lonesome. I haven't traveled outside the country 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:24.080 by myself, um, but I have. Like I used to 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:26.040 live in Northern California, I would come down to southern 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:29.320 California by myself to see music, and I wouldn't meet anyone. 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:31.839 I would just go to the show and what what 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:35.760 type of music. There's this female rap group that I 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.360 like quite a bit that no one else likes. They're 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:40.880 called The Millionaires. They were on in a season of 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:44.120 Bad Girls Club. But I like the Millions quite a bit, 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:45.479 and no one else wanted to go see them with me. 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:48.160 So I came down to Annaheim and I saw the show, 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:50.479 and I took myself out to the ESPN Zone and 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:52.120 then I stayed the night in the Motel six and 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:54.480 drove them the next day. You gave yourself a nice 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:57.360 little date night. But I'm sure you well deserved. Yes, 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:01.799 I like to think, so, well, look what's the cat 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:06.160 drag gag Vanessa? We need some information? What air part 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:10.160 are you in right now? So I'm at LaGuardia New 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:13.640 York City, in New York, and you had Yeah, I 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:15.719 love New York, but I don't you guys know that 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:18.640 I have, like you were, um luck when it comes 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:21.520 to traveling. So of course my flight was delayed. I 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:25.120 was hosting a radio show for Virgin Radio, which is 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:29.239 part of my Heart Radio family, and I like sat 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:30.880 out of there, and of course my flight was in 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:32.560 May for like an hour and a half or two hours. 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:35.120 We're just like silling on the on the airplane for 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:39.440 forty five minutes flight. So I'm just hanging out here 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:42.359 talking to you guys before I have to cut off 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:46.120 into a cabin to my hotel. Must have been an 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:51.760 emergency to use the LaGuardia bathroom, Mark. I told you 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:54.039 I was stuck on an airplane for like three hours, 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:56.719 so yes, you know I had this supporting and just 0:06:56.760 --> 0:07:01.159 needed to at least the piece. Do you use a 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:08.400 toilet feed cover? Squad? Oh even for that interesting, That 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:11.520 is a lot of effort to put into the bathroom. 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:14.080 Just put a cover on and put some TP on there. No, 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:21.800 I could see sitting squatting for number one is reasonable. 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:24.560 I think squatting for number two that that's some thigh 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:27.120 action going on. That's a commitment that is that's going 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:30.480 to burn. It's not that terrible because you go when 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:32.200 you have to go, You're not I'm not going for 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:35.520 fifty minutes like reading articles. Actually I did. When you 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.400 sent me the articles free today, I was like, okay, 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:42.000 well that's a nice little segue to the article. Anyway. UM, so, Vanessa, 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:44.320 we wanted to talk to you a little bit about 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:47.560 the article that was released I believe on US Weekly 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:51.120 about Lauren bush Now, Now, have you ever met Lauren Bushnell? 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:54.520 I love her. Yes they have. Okay, I've only met 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:56.920 her a couple of times, but she was very sweet. 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:58.720 She was actually the first person I reached out to 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:04.800 one Um Nick and I got engaged, and she was 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.080 with Ben at the time, and we spoke on the 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:09.840 phone and she was very supportive and inderstood exactly what 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:14.000 I was going through. UM and we kept in contact 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:17.160 even after the breakup. And uh, we've seen each other 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:19.640 a few times. So quick backstory and Lauren bush Now, 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:21.520 for those of you don't know, Lauren was on Ben 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:24.120 Higgins season to The Bachelor. She ended up winning. Ben 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:27.440 Higgins and her were engaged for a little while before 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:29.960 they called the engagement off and Ben was the bachelor 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:33.559 prior to Nick, whose Vanessa was on that season and 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:36.760 Vanessa ended up getting engaged to Nick. So, Vanessa, you're 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:38.720 saying you reached out to Lauren Bushnell just for some 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:41.600 advice to kind of figure out what was coming, I'm 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:45.720 assuming yeah, exactly. Okay, did she have any good advice 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:48.440 for you? Yeah, you know, send me to cancel out 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:57.679 all the noise, the outside noise. Um. So she's very 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:00.400 supportive and so Ben, we actually went on a date 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.319 and that was the first time I've been I love then. 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:08.400 Lauren's a very sweet woman too. Yeah. Um, but there 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:11.320 was an article released about Lauren Bushnell. She is dating 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:16.079 Chris Lane, who is a country singer. I believe that's correct. Yeah, 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:18.040 he's definitely a country singer. I was just asking the 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:20.560 group to see if you guys at all, but apparently not, 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:24.959 um so Lauren bush Nell. Actually he is. He's a 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:26.800 good looking man. I'm currently looking at a at a 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:30.000 picture of him right now. Um, very good looking man. 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:35.480 And apparently Chris Lane was dating Lauren Barr before he 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:37.720 started dating Lauren bush Now, Novena, do you know who 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:41.840 Lauren Barr is? Lauren Barr was on Ben season of 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:44.600 The Battler and I'm not sure how far he made 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:48.920 it on. I'm not sure about how far she made it. 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:52.240 I believe she may have been on Paradise too. I 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:55.439 don't remember exactly, but she was. She was one of 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:57.520 the many Lauren's on Ben season. She was known as 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:02.720 lb um and so aparently Lauren bushnell Um. Before they 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:05.959 went public with the relationships, she reached out to Lauren Barr, 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.400 who kind of talked about their relationship for a little while. 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:11.280 So this guy, Chris Lane has dated a couple a 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:15.280 couple of Bachelorurettes, which is very interesting. Um so you ye, 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:20.599 I was in Nashville when it was right after we 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:23.800 finished airing, sorry filming Art season. I was in Nashville 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:28.280 and I saw him. Think Claire, I don't remember last name. 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:32.600 Oh Crawley, Yeah, Claire Crawley. Hold on, So you're telling 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:36.440 me that he's dated Lauren to Laurence from Ben season's Claire, 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:39.480 And then did you just say one more? I think 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:43.079 that's wow. This guy should just be on the Bachelor. 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:46.880 Oh my god. I think he just wants to be 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:50.520 a Bachler, but he standing off the free One's a 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:54.560 great person. I've ever met Claire, Claire's sweetheart as well. Lauren. Yeah, 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:56.400 I've met Lauren a couple of times. Super sweetheart. I 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:57.760 think it was very nice for her to reach out 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:00.000 to LB before they came out. So apparently, as Weekly 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:02.280 it goes on to say Chris was dating LB Lauren 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:05.320 Bar right before he was dating Lauren Bushnell. Lauren Bushnell 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:08.080 called LB. God, there's so many Laurens. I'm already so confused. 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:11.360 So let's get this right. So Lauren Bushnell called LB 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:14.439 also known as Lauren bar a couple of days ago 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:17.680 to tell her that they were together. So Lauren Bushnell 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:20.640 called LB to say, Hey, listen, I'm currently dating Chris. 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:22.320 I know you guys used to date. We're gonna go 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:24.600 public with our relationship. Just wanted to give you a 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:29.120 heads up. Do you think Lauren needed to do that? Bushnell? Yeah. 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:33.839 I think that's the noble thing to do. I I mean, also, 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:36.080 all depending on how close they were. If it was 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:38.480 obviously they were close enough for her to reach out 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:42.160 to her and let her know if it's news before 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:44.600 she found out through the internet. I think there's nothing 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:46.840 more than a slap in the face and finding something 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:52.720 out through an online article or through Instagram or you know, um, 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:56.480 through Lord of Mouth. So I think it was the 0:11:56.559 --> 0:12:00.920 respective respectful things of Lauren to do, for Lawrence to 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:10.040 do Lawren the last names to make life easier. And 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:12.680 so yeah, I mean it's tough, right because you can't 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:15.760 forget that you're in a public relationship. And for me personally, 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:19.320 when when Ashley and I came out and announced our 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:23.120 relationship back and in May, um, I was kind of 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:24.920 going back and forth in my own head whether I 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:27.319 should reach out to one particular ex girlfriend and let 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:30.360 her know that I am now dating Actually we're going 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.360 to announce our relationship. And I was talking to my 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:35.520 sister about it, and uh, you know, I was talking 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:37.200 to a couple of friends about it. Some are saying, 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:39.360 you don't owe her anything, there's really nothing you need 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:41.720 to say, and then they're saying, if you wanted to 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:44.640 reach out More importantly, I was nervous to reaching out, 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:46.880 not for her sake, but for Ashley's sake, because I 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:50.400 didn't want Ashley to think that I was putting my 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:53.200 ars girlfriend's feelings over her own in any way. So 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:56.800 it's kind of a fine line. Um. And so I 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.160 ended up reaching out. But I reached out, I felt 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:01.200 like too late, and I wish I could have redone 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:02.679 that I think I would have done it. I think 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:04.680 I could have done a better job than I did, 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:08.160 which I I regret. Unfortunately, I can get some whenever. 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:10.360 Like you know, if I I date a guy and 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:15.439 he starts by seeing anything negative about his ex girlfriend, 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:20.000 to me, that's a huge red slag that many next. No, 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:21.640 no, no no at all. I'm thinking. I'm just trying to 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:24.040 give a comparison here. So if like someone has something 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:27.920 negative to say about their x X whatever boyfriend or girlfriends, 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.800 it's the red slag for someone that wants to um 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:33.800 that that thinks highly of their significant other. After they 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:37.520 break up, it's a sign that they moved on and 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:41.240 they're on neutral terms. So I think if you would 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:43.480 have done it a little bit sooner, I don't know, 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:45.760 if I don't know fastly would I mean, I don't know, 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:47.360 ask you that well, but I don't think. I think 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:51.240 if I were to put myself in asty shoes, she 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:53.040 she may have thought that was would have been a 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:56.720 respectful thing for you to do UM, because it's like 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:59.880 it so like um a soft spite to you. You know, 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:04.280 still decide that you're carrying and you're you consider other 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:09.200 people feeling. No, I think I think I was just 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:12.199 overthinking the situation, if I'm being honest and not also 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:15.840 the COMPARI the comparison here is that we're if Ashley 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.800 were to call this person your X, and that's a 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:22.880 little weird, isn't Well she did? Yeah, yeah, yeah she called. 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:24.800 It wasn't you have the call? It was actually the call? Well, no, 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:28.760 she called somebody, uh, an X of hers a couple 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:31.200 of days before he came out and said, you know, hey, 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:34.880 this is happening. But the Lauren's situations, it was with 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:37.360 the new girlfriend called the old girlfriends, So it would 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:40.080 be actually calling your AX and maybe you calling Ashley's act. 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:41.800 I think it's a litt different because I'm assuming the 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:44.000 reason Bushnell reached out the bars because they were friends, 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:45.520 because they were on the same season in the Batchelor. 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:47.520 So I'm assuming that they knew each other and she 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:50.120 wanted to be respectful. Yeah. Now do you think it 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:56.160 would have been more appropriate for Christical? Um? I think 0:14:56.160 --> 0:15:04.680 it depends on what their relationship. Mean. Yeah, I feel 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:09.640 like it's a girl code. Is this a cety? Well, 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:11.360 mostly it's a celebrity thing. But I think it might 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:14.560 be just becoming a modern day thing with Facebook, right 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:16.880 before you go social media official, do you need to 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:21.960 warn excess before you do that. I don't go. I 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:25.200 don't know. It depends. It really depends because there is 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:27.480 a difference between because there's a difference between a public 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:31.000 relationship and a non public relationship. Because someone like Lauren 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.320 bush Now and this guy Chris Lane, like they're going 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:37.160 to be in articles and some of their inside relationship 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:39.920 stories will be brought to the public, whereas if you're 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:42.280 not in a public relationship, it's really just going to 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:44.360 be about whatever you put on your social media. So 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:47.680 for the other ex partner, boyfriend and girlfriend, they can 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:50.800 just unfollow. I think it's very difficult for somebody who's 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:54.320 in a public relationship for their exod they're just in headlines. 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:57.480 I don't mean I agree, but I also disagree. It's 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:00.720 so easy nowadays to find out which friend to stay 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:03.000 firth and which friends like you don't have to be 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:06.000 following them. Someone else could be a friend, a mutual 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:09.720 friend of yours, could be following your ex or uh, 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:13.480 the person that they're dating. Listen, I dated this guy, 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:17.840 and um, it's the craziest story. I dated this guy 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:20.280 and then a friend came out to visit me in 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:23.120 Montreal and then uh, they go back home to their 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:24.920 hometown and they're like, oh, I saw that you hung 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:27.400 out Vanessa this weekend and they're like yeah. And that 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:31.160 person was like, oh's following the boyfriends And that person 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:33.960 was like, what, Vanessa doesn't have a boyfriend. This guy 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:36.760 that I casually dated posted pictures of me on his 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:40.360 Instagram seed, but I deleted all of my mutual friends 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:43.040 so that I couldn't find out. But it just so 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:45.960 happened that we had a mutual friend in common and 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.200 it came back to me. I don't think it's because 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:49.800 like I was in the public eye just because he 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:52.800 this person was following this a mutual friend of ours. 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:57.240 So I think the universe will always pray in your favor. 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:00.560 You don't have to bump searching for sure, will come 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:04.399 out of the closet or whatever the expressionist and it'll 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:08.840 like expose itself before you have to go out it maybe, 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:11.200 But I also don't advocate that everybody should reach out 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:13.159 to the X before they start dating someone new, Like 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:16.199 that's just the way life goes. Unfortunately, I think that 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:20.919 um if you're going to start to date someone that 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:24.679 a friend of yours had dated, then it's the proper 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:28.320 thing to do. Reach out and just start your relationship 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:32.359 on a good note and like karma is not gonna 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:34.199 come and butt you in the ask later on. All right, 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:37.080 let me ask you a different question. Should Lauren Bushnell 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:41.080 have contacted Ben Higgins and told him no, why house 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:43.359 Ben Higgins? What does he have to do with them? 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:46.440 But that's that's my point. So like for everybody that's 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:51.480 not in a public relationship, but Lauren Barr dated Chris Lane. Yeah, 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:55.040 but our conversation earlier was do you think somebody needs 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:57.480 to reach out to their ex when they're in a 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:01.359 new relationship before they like post some thing on social media? 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:03.600 And for somebody that's not in a public relationship, I 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:09.280 don't think it's necessary to do. I'm not think might 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:11.480 have even reached out to Bed. She might have it 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:12.840 and said, hey, by the way, heads up, this is 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:14.320 going on and this is gonna be public, just so 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:16.360 you know, because the key is how do they find out? 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:18.480 You don't want your ex to find out from friend 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:21.240 of a friend, from rumor mill, from entertainment tonight, whatever 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:24.920 the situation. Maybe you'd rather hear from them, right, Yes, 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:27.760 I agree, but no, But I mean if if I were, 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:29.840 if I would to start dating someone, I wouldn't call 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:32.040 it Nick and be like, hey, heads up dating someone? 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:35.760 Like I agree. Just conversely, Nick wouldn't call you, and 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:39.600 I don't think neither one of you needs to do that. Yeah, okay, 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:42.560 well I think we are all Yeah, I think we're 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:44.760 all agreement on that one. We have a guest here. 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:46.479 I want to bring her in. Vanessa, you gotta get 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:49.480 in your cab. Thank you for coming on. Yes, guys 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:51.680 have the worst less of travel, but enjoy the rest 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:55.920 of the episode. Thanks Vanessa. 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