1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast Walking Back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We rolled 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: through the Thursday edition of the program. We've been talking 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: about Alex Murdoch, who is testifying in his own defense 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: as we speak in South Carolina in a case that 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: has captivated the attention of many. That is a small town, 8 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: relatively relatively in the global scheme of things, small story, 9 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: I would argue, the biggest story that is going on 10 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 1: right now from a geopolitical perspective is this question of 11 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: what is going to happen in China, In particular, is 12 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: there going to be an attempt to invade Taiwan? And 13 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: what do we make of China's newfound relationship with Russia 14 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: and how it might implicate things. There is a report 15 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: out there that we are going to quadruple our military 16 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: spending on behalf of Taiwan at the same time that 17 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: we are spending billions of dollars on behalf of Ukraine. 18 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: What does this all mean? We're joined now by Steve Yate, 19 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: Senior Fellow at the America First Policy Institute, host of 20 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: the China Desk podcast. You can find Steve at America 21 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: First Policy dot com and his podcast is at the 22 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: Federal Newswire dot com. Steve, I'm sure you saw the 23 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: story and we talked about it on this program about 24 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 1: the American general who said, I believe by twenty twenty five, 25 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: he believed that that China would invade Taiwan and we 26 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: would have to make a decision about what exactly we're 27 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: going to do in the event that occurs. Do you 28 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: believe that's going to happen? What do you make of 29 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: our increased expenditures on military material for Taiwan, And where 30 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: are we in that relationship in that context of Taiwan 31 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: and China in your mind right now? Well, thank you, Clay. Well, 32 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: this is a challenge that has vexed us for a 33 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: long time. We do now have an increased number of 34 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: military officials at a senior level speaking out publicly about it. 35 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: They used to fret about it internally, and our intelligence 36 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: services and our diplomats always seem to underestimate the timeline 37 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: on which China was prepared to act against US or 38 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: against Taiwan. Now it seems like the conventional wisdom has 39 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: crept up into being at potentially real time, and we 40 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 1: are behind the curve on making sure we've enhanced to 41 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: terrence in the Asia Pacific. We've allowed a lot of 42 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: material to be reallocated to the Middle East for a 43 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: long time for different kinds of missions. The Ukraine conflict 44 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: has drained a lot of material. One can argue whether 45 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: that's good or bad, but it can't argue away the 46 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: impact it has on what's available for other contingencies. And 47 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: of course President Biden I think, has been on a 48 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: trail of provocative weakness, and that I think is a 49 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: very unsettling message to an aggressive provocateur, like hiding being 50 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: of China, the latest episode being the balloon transitting in 51 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: the weak response. So not a happy picture. But at 52 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: least when we're talking about armaments going to Taiwan, they 53 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: pay for them, unlike a lot of other countries where 54 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: we give them away. But we're behind the curve and 55 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: allowing them to acquire what they really need to deter 56 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: China and defend themselves with or without our intervention. Hey, Steve, 57 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: it's buck. Let's drill in on that point for a second. 58 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: What does Taiwan really need in order to raise the 59 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: costs of a Chinese invasion enough to deter it. And 60 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: what can we do or should we do to fill 61 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: that gap? Well, first, they need the ability to inflict 62 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: pain on China itself in a meaningful way. I mean buck, 63 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: you know as well as anyone. I mean deterrence to exist, 64 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: someone has to have a credible belief if they're going 65 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: to lose something that matters to them. So, whether that's 66 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: their power grid, potentially going down a massive cyber attack, 67 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: missiles that could hit key locations reliably on the mainland, 68 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: having the most advanced fighter jets instead of selling the 69 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: decades old material with less than cutting edge systems. All 70 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: of these things were under this rubric of strategic ambiguity 71 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: and avoiding offensive air quoted capabilities. So we have put 72 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: Taiwan somewhat in this strait jacket for a generation, and 73 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: we need to get out of that if we don't 74 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: want to be is the first sharp end of the 75 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: spear intervening on their behalf. What do you make of 76 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: this potential relationship between China, Russia and Iran. It seems 77 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: that the invasion of Ukraine has brought all three of 78 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: them together. Is this just a function of they recognize 79 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: that they're all outside the scope of American friendship for 80 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: lack of a better way to describe it, and so 81 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: they've brought together as a result. Do you buy into 82 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: any sort of danger of this unholy triumvirate. Are they 83 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: a legitimate threat? Are they trying to create a counterbalance 84 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: to American power around the world. What happens with that 85 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: trio in their relationship. Well, it's a similar dilemma we 86 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: always have. If we have reliable and good leadership in 87 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: the United States, this is much less of a challenge 88 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: most of the world, even the fence thatters will want 89 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: to hedge their bets and lean more in our direction. 90 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: But under the current circumstances where the United States doesn't 91 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: seem to be meeting with leadership or success in several 92 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: different parts of the world, this condominium at best is 93 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 1: a do no gooder condominium to avoid sanctions and to 94 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: proliferate dangerous technologies and impose penalties and other kinds of 95 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: pain on those who seek freedom or to go about 96 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: their business, etc. But at the worst, it is a 97 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: condominium in which United States loses the ability to try 98 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: to put discipline short of war to shape other country's behavior, 99 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: and so I think it's troubling. I wouldn't say we're 100 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: at a clear cold war of the free world versus 101 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: this Beijing, Moscow, Tehran silo, but it's going in that direction, 102 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: and we're not doing a lot of good to show 103 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: that we've got the will and capability to lure the 104 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: others on to say bet on us, not on them. 105 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: Speaking of Steve Yates, he is the host of the 106 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: China Desk podcast and a senior fellow at America First 107 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: Policy Institute. Steve, how would you assess Chinese regime stability 108 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: right now? You know, we've really thought about China internally 109 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: for the most part last couple of years, just because 110 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: of the COVID madness. I mean, they went even beyond 111 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: what we did here in the West, or even what 112 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: they did and say Australia New Zealand. But is she 113 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: worried about internal threats? Is he concerned about the economy imploding? 114 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: What the status inside of China because obviously that can 115 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: play a big role in the decision making visa VI Taiwan. Absolutely, Buck, 116 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: they do face a lot of challenges internally, economic, demographic, 117 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: their radical COVID policies had a massive impact. Plus, this 118 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: wolf warrior mentality had taken out into the world is 119 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: pretty different from the charm offensive they tried in decades past. 120 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,559 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of reasons for a rational leader 121 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: in China to be concerned about writing through this turbulent period. However, 122 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: Seeking Thing is, in my estimation, the most ruthless leader 123 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: of the People's Republic of China to date. He has 124 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: complete control of the security state. And if we are 125 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: unnerved by what our security state can do to American citizens, 126 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: imagine that a thousand times more developed with no civil 127 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: liberties whatsoever. And that's what Hijinping sits on top of. 128 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: So short he's not scared of being compled whether he's 129 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: right or wrong, but he is not presiding over a 130 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: stable and prosperous period in China relative to his predecessors. 131 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've seen some of the war games that 132 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: they have run on what happens if China tries to 133 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: invade Taiwan, how the United States will respond, what is 134 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: likely to happen. We know we've spent one hundred billion 135 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: dollars plus in that bill is ongoing. It's a money 136 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: pit in Ukraine. What do you think Joe Biden would 137 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: do if he got a call in the middle of 138 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: the night China has begun the invasion of Taiwan. Well, 139 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: it's a terrifying scenario to me, to be honest, because, 140 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: on the one hand, Joe Biden the individual, tends to 141 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: say what traditional American presidents and congressional leaders have said 142 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: for a generation, that if Taiwan was attacked, we would 143 00:08:55,040 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: honor our commitment to defend Taiwan. President Biden has said 144 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: that three or four times. So the first part that 145 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: scares me is that when every time he does so, 146 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: someone from the White House anonymously corrects him on the record, 147 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: which just makes it very murky for any American much 148 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: less our allies and the people of Taiwan have any 149 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: confidence they know what would happen, and in China they 150 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: could overestimate their ability to inflict pain without their being 151 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: a broader conflict with US, with Japan and others. I 152 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: think that is just a dangerous web of miscalculation. But 153 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: what should be done is arming them to the teeth, 154 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: if to the extent they want to pay for it 155 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: and use it enhance the Trent independent capabilities of Japan 156 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: and others, so that it's a complicated situation for China 157 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: and make it clear that they pay a dear price, 158 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: not just with a military attack, but you have an 159 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: end of the economic relationship. There would be significant comprehensive 160 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: attacks to undermine them. And that's just a step further 161 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: than any president's been willing to talk or prepare since 162 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: the Nixon Kissinger bargain. What is the Biden administration doing 163 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: right and what is it doing wrong with regard to 164 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: US China policy now that we're two years in. Well, 165 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: I think one of the things that seems to be 166 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: inching in the right direction is they do seem to 167 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:22,119 Speaker 1: be amping up the supply chain of capabilities and training 168 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: and interoperability with Taiwan. There are senior Taiwan officials that 169 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: have been in DC for eye level consultations. Those used 170 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: to be completely clam destined. Now that is in the 171 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: media and it's not denied. We also have some senior 172 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,599 Speaker 1: American officials, well senior with air quotes. It's sort of 173 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: the mid levels of appointees from the Pentagon in other 174 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: places in Taiwan to talk about these scenarios, and so 175 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: at least they they're inching in the right direction on 176 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: that front, and we've heard a lot less from Climate 177 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: Zar John Kerry about that being the number one issue 178 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: that has to be addressed in US China relations. But 179 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: it's to be to determined who's actually calling the shots 180 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: in this and where it's all going so timeframe wise, 181 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: my big picture question here is there's this idea that 182 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: China has been has been on a scent, but actually 183 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: if you look behind the numbers, we now know their 184 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: population has begun to decline. We now know that their 185 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: economy is not growing as fast as they had wanted 186 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: and certainly is buck laid out. The COVID zero collapse 187 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: has certainly undercut Chinese legitimacy as well. Does China's beginning 188 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: to decline in power actually make things more dangerous as 189 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: it pertains to Taiwan because a decade from now they 190 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: may not have the ability to try and invade Taiwan. 191 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: In other words, could they invade out of weakness as 192 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: opposed to strength. Well, the scenario you outline just now, Clay, 193 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: is the one that I would buy with the biggest bet, 194 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: because I do think it's declining weakened China or a troubled. 195 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: China has a natural appeal to nationalism to hold people 196 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: together and to distract. There is if they allow another 197 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: decade time for Taiwan, Japan, the United States and others 198 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: to catch up technologically and materially, for us to get 199 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: meaningful biting functions or other actions. And so there is 200 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: this I think danger of vulnerability between now and say 201 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, that is very, very troubling. We'll go 202 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: through the exercise of a presidential election. 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It's a very 228 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: clear indicator of the political salience and and let's be honest, 229 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: the political win that Donald Trump has just has just 230 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: achieved by doing the right thing and going to see 231 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: the people of East Palestine. Because it is upsetting liberals. 232 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: The Libs are upset about this somehow, and they're running 233 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: to give the Biden administration Joe Biden very quick to 234 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: run over to high five Zelenski for accepting another whatever 235 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: it will be one hundred billion dollars of US military 236 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: and taxpayer support over the next year. But here's what 237 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: joy behar over at the View has to say to 238 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: the people of East Palestine who are wondering if their 239 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: lungs have been forever damaged, if their drinking water is 240 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: forever polluted. Here's what she has to say, play by 241 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: the way he plays someone with deep ties to the 242 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: chemical industry in charge of the EPA's Chemical Safety office. 243 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: That's who you voted for in that district, Donald Trump, 244 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: who reduces all safety he did. They need to look 245 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: past the photoarps for people and say who's doing the 246 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: job here. Forget about the photo arms. I think this 247 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: is Donald Trump's fault. This is Donald Trump's fault. One 248 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: of them says, you need to look at who you 249 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: voted for. The other one says, Joe Biden has been 250 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: president for over two years. I mean, first of all, 251 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: their premise is just it is dumb, beyond comprehension. But 252 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: beyond that, look, I know it's the view clay right, 253 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: so like should we even but they're contempt of everyday 254 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: people if they voted for Trump, they despise Trump voters, 255 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: not just Trump Trump voters, and that's which everyone needs 256 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: to be needs to be reminded of. Well, remember where 257 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: we've gone here too. Initially, this is a whole made 258 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: up story. Nothing is big deal in East Palestine. This 259 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: is a right wing made up story. And now they 260 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: have pivoted as they are recognizing that, oh wait, this 261 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: was a significant ecological issue. There are tons of issues 262 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: associated with water and pollution and the ability of people 263 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: to live their normal wives in this community, and so 264 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: fairly rapidly they have pivoted from this is an exaggerated 265 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: story that isn't worthy of our retention. Remember this has 266 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: been three weeks now too. Oh Donald Trump is responsible 267 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: for all of this. And I think it's symptomatic of 268 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: what you said, Buck, which is twenty twenty four is 269 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: going to be decided in the Midwest, whether people in 270 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: New York, in LA like it or not. What happens 271 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin, what happens in Pennsylvania, what happens in Michigan. 272 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: That's probably going to decide the election. Now, Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, 273 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: New Hampshire. You know, We can sprinkle in a few 274 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: other parts of the country that may have contested in 275 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: serious races, but by and large, this election is going 276 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: to be decided in the Midwest. Do you tell me 277 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: what happens in those three states, I'll tell you who 278 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: the President's going to be in twenty twenty four. So 279 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: the idea that the Biden administration was caught flat footed 280 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: here and I would circle back around to what we 281 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: were talking about earlier. Buck, How many people out there 282 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: listening to us right now who care about the direction 283 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 1: of the country, who pay attention to politics, can even 284 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: name an Department of transfer, department of a Secretary of 285 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: transportation for what the last twenty years? How many of 286 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: them can you name? I can name Elaine Chow. I 287 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:43,719 Speaker 1: think was she labor or Secretary Transportation Transportation. I mean, 288 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that if this were jeopardy, I wouldn't 289 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: be buzzing in. I'm not sure. So you and I 290 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: are pretty plugged in. 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Welcome back in Clay 307 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: Travis buck Sexton show, I got a thesis for you. 308 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: Every now and then, I like to trot out thesis ideas. 309 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: You guys can contemplate them, you can reject them, you 310 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: can agree, you can modify thesis. The single most important 311 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: job of adulthood to a large extent, is assessing risk. 312 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: That is, figuring out how to live your life knowing 313 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: that there is danger involved, and certainly this is a 314 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: huge part of being a parent, I believe, which ties 315 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: in with adulthood, knowing what is out there that is 316 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: a danger to you in your family, yet being able 317 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: to go on about your life despite understanding those dangers. 318 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: And to me, COVID has been a litmus test on this. 319 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: Whether or not you were able to consider your own 320 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: age and health factors and analyze your risk for COVID 321 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: as a result on an individual basis and your larger 322 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: family's results and everything else was to me a test 323 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: of whether you could assess risk accurately or not, and 324 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: Democrats failed it overwhelmingly. I was listening. I think we 325 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,239 Speaker 1: played a clip from Bill Maher pointing out that like 326 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: fifty percent of Democrats believed that if they got COVID 327 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: they would go to the hospital. Yes, they didn't understand 328 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: that you're probably gonna get COVID and odds are you're 329 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: probably gonna be fine and get over it like you 330 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: tend to get over a cold or you tend to 331 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: get over the flu. Well, AXEOS has a poll up 332 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: and the headline is what Americans say is the current 333 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: greatest threat to US public health? Okay, what is the 334 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: greatest threat to you and public health, and it gives 335 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: you a lot of different topics that you can choose 336 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: and buck. They divided it between Republicans and Democrats, and 337 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: I read this and I said, Okay, I'm fascinated by this. 338 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: Republicans thirty seven percent of them said that opioids and 339 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: fentnyl you can eventually learned how to pronounce it, fentnyl 340 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: were the biggest risk to public health in the United States. 341 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: It's a decent answer, right, because you could theoretically be 342 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: one hundred percent healthy, you use the wrong type of fentanyl, 343 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: and the next thing you know, you're dead. I mean 344 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 1: that that is a very real fear. I mean you 345 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: look at the number of people aged twenty to fifty 346 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: who are dying, and then you look at life expectancy 347 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: lost as a result of that. And to think that 348 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: fentanyl is a public health scourge on a scale, you know, 349 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: in terms of substance abuse beyond anything we've seen, is 350 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: apparent and is very real. Okay, So that democrat number 351 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: two for Democrats, by for Republicans, by the way, obesity, 352 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: I mean again public health. If you are overweight, it 353 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: is recognizable that you would have worse health outcome. Well, 354 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: obesity is I think you would argue correctly. You could 355 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: argue correctly that on just a statistical basis, because if 356 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: you put under obesity the umbrella of things that are 357 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: associated with obesity, heart disease, hypertension, type two diabetes, inflammation, 358 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: by the way, of all kinds of internal inflammation, some 359 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: people will will link a whole range of disease, but 360 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: most notably heart disease, the biggest killer of Americans day 361 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: to day, and obesity go hand in hand. So that's 362 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: a very reasonable answer from people. So sixty three percent, 363 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: if my math is right, of people basically are saying 364 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: sixty two percent. Hey, these are the things that we're 365 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: most afraid of. For Republicans, Democrats number one, and there 366 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: isn't a close second. Number one biggest threat to public 367 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: health according to Democrats gun or firearm access. And and 368 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: I think this is I mean, such a window. And 369 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: by the way, can sir is nine percent. Cancer is 370 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: nine percent on this issue. I believe cancer kills around 371 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: six hundred thousand people a year buck so and firearm 372 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: most people who die of firearms, Unfortunately, over half is suicide. 373 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: And so this idea I think feeds into We hear 374 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: all the time about Republicans believe things that aren't true. 375 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: I actually think democrats believe way more things that aren't 376 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: true because of their infatuation with the media than Republicans do. Well. 377 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: This is this is a very clear example, and you 378 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: started off talking about with COVID. They use they use 379 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: exaggerated fear and anxiety as a political tool around certain issues. 380 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: So they have convinced people, for example, that lawful gun 381 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 1: owners are somehow a threat to them. When you look 382 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 1: at the data concealed carry permit holders, and I think 383 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: we're about to get constitutional carry down here. For example, 384 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: in the state of Florida, concealed carry permit holders, though 385 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: are not only more law abiding than the general population, 386 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 1: they are more law abiding per capita than law enforcement. Okay, 387 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 1: which is a pretty crazy statistic, but it's one that 388 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: is often cited. And when you look at the way 389 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: that people are afraid of lawful gun owners, that's completely 390 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: a creation of the media for political purposes. The overwhelming 391 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: majority of crimes of violent crimes that are committed are 392 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: by people who are not supposed to have a gun 393 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: in the first place, or commit crimes, whether in the 394 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: carrying of or the transport of that firearm and straw purchase, 395 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: a whole range of issues. But really what this is 396 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: is all an effort to create mass paranoia around lawful 397 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: gun ownership so that they can push for confiscation, so 398 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: they can push for what they call law abiding or 399 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,239 Speaker 1: a common sense gun regulation. Clay, more people. I mean, 400 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: you cited the statistic about suicide via gun, which more 401 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: people die via suicide than actually murder. I believe you're 402 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: in a year out with fire arms. Thirty thousand people 403 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: a year according to the CDC die of falling. Now 404 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: generally that's older people, but more people die from a 405 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: standard fall down the stairs, off a roof, whatever the 406 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: case maye know, if they're doing roofing, then die from 407 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: guns every year. But do you think that if I 408 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: told the average you know, lib walking around a major 409 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: US city that you are statistically in more danger of 410 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: dying from a fall than from a gun, they would 411 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: think that I'm crazy. Yes, no, they would. And I 412 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: think it becomes such a huge part of how we 413 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: see the world. And it was a window COVID was 414 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: into really Democrats and all their allies not being able 415 00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: to successfully analyze risk and live your life despite the 416 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: fact that there is risk. Right, every single day that 417 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: you walk outside, bad things can happen. Forty thousand people 418 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: a year buck on average, roughly die in car accidents. 419 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: Yet almost every single person that will listen to us today, 420 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: unless you live in a big city like New York 421 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: and just don't even own a car, will at some 422 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: point during the course of today, get behind the wheel 423 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: and go somewhere. Almost every single person listening to us, 424 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: And that is because we have to understand that there 425 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: comes a level of risk associated with life. And when 426 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: I saw this list. We don't talk enough about how 427 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: many untrue things Democrats believe. One of the biggest is 428 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: that police are killing thousands of minorities every year. Right, 429 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a hard and fast belief by 430 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: and large of Democrats. If you quiz them how many 431 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: unarmed black men are being killed by police every year, 432 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: they think the answer thousands. It's literally seven or eight. 433 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: And unarmed does not mean without risk, right. If you're 434 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: choking someone to death, you're unarmed. If you are reaching 435 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: for somebody's firearm, you are technically at that point unarmed. 436 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 1: But they don't have an ability to understand where the 437 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: risk factors actually are. And for guns and access to 438 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: firearms to be the number one fear of democrats, I 439 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: think it is such an intriguing window into the world 440 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: that they live in. It's but it's it's intentional. This 441 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: is you know that the media that pushes this stuff 442 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: and makes people think these uh, these exaggerated sense of 443 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: fear they have, for example, from from gun gun violence, 444 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: um is meant to bring about a political outcome, which 445 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: is the only way to make us safe from the 446 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: dramatically elevated fear we have of of general gun violence. 447 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: Is to make a McClay and I'm I'm I'm picking 448 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: up an NAR fifteen. I meant to do it yesterday. 449 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna do it a few days. I have 450 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 1: to wait five I had to wait five days to 451 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: pick up my gun. What is that? What is that 452 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: all about? Like? In what world is that? Making? It 453 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: just annoys me. I have to go in fill out 454 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: my little form for you know, the for the FBI 455 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: background check. I have to go in and do this 456 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: little little dance and then wait five days. It's just 457 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: meantgonize people that believe in the Second Amendment. How about 458 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: the difference between your experience in New York City in Miami, though, 459 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: I mean, you couldn't even have a gun in New 460 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 1: York City. Basically it's almost impossible, right, Yeah, it's it's 461 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: completely that they make it so that it is as 462 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: owners expensive and it actually is even worse than just 463 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: the expense in the time in a place like in 464 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: New York City. Specifically New York State is a little 465 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: bit better, but New York City the laws are so 466 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: this has gone to the Supreme Court. So this isn't 467 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: my perception, this is reality. The laws are so vague 468 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: about lawful gun possession that you don't know if you 469 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: are breaking the law and perhaps committing an accidental felony. 470 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: And they can't even tell you whether you are or 471 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: not in New York City because they haven't figured it out, 472 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: because they want you to not know, because they just 473 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: don't want you to have a gun. 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Here on the 501 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: curious case the unusual news story of the former Biden 502 00:30:53,280 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: administration deftly Assistant Secretary Sam Brinton, who is a self 503 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: described non binary, non gender conforming individual who was fired. 504 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: We just I feel like we need to explain what 505 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: that is every time we describe it. So this is 506 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: a man who just wears clothes and makeup and everything else, 507 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: and he couldn't dress like a dude one day woman 508 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,719 Speaker 1: the next day. He's refusing to choose a gender basic correct, 509 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: he's not transgender, right, he is effectively in between or 510 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: rather gender switching. I believe not that I have. If 511 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: if you and I and our forties are confused by 512 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: all this terminology, I can't even imagine what the grandpas 513 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: and grandpa's who hear this language are, Just like, what 514 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: in the world does this even mean? So cis gender 515 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: we know is male female, So that's that's non binary, 516 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: is not fitting into sis gender category of male female. 517 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: Sam Brinton, as a non binary person, self described would 518 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: wear women's clothes and make up and things like that. Um, 519 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: and we know that Sam Brinton is no longer with 520 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: the Biden administration because he on um he you know, 521 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: I don't know all I'm being serious and sometimes it 522 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: sounds like I'm trying to does that mean if you're 523 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: if you're non binary, are you inherently a they know? 524 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: Is that how it's posted? I don't know. I feel 525 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: like that's what that's what they claim. And the problem 526 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: that I always have with that, beyond the the most obvious, 527 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: is that they is for plurals for multiple people. This 528 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: is confusing and uh and and makes no sense. Okay, 529 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: but sam Brinton fired for multiple instances. You know, I 530 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: just came back from a long trip. If somebody stole 531 00:32:55,440 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: my bag, I would be very very greet right because 532 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: especially if you're traveling now you've got nothing, and it's 533 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: one thing when your bag is delayed, maybe the airport 534 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: gets ato you a day later or something. Your bag 535 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: is stolen, you're you know, you're on your own, right, 536 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: I mean, there's good good luck trying to figure out. 537 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: But sam Brinton, it turns out this is up on 538 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: Fox News. He stole the clothing of a female Tanzanian 539 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: um fashion designer, and she has said her name is 540 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: Isia Kampson. She has said that she has designed and 541 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: handmade her own clothing line for years, and has seen 542 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: photos of Sam Brinton after her luggage was stolen, wearing 543 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: proudly her specially designed clothing out and about and taking 544 00:33:54,200 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: photos of himself or they sell or whatever and ed. Yeah. 545 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: So this I wonder do we think that he figured 546 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: out who's that's quite a to be to be an 547 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: individual who wants to steal and wear women's clothing, which 548 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: he did this multiple times, so we know this was 549 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 1: a fixation. And this is somebody who the Biden administration 550 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: was touting is look at how diverse and inclusive we are. 551 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: We have a we have a day in charge of 552 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: nuclear waste disposal, right, that was the whole thing for 553 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 1: him to just happened to get a fashion designer, female 554 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: fashion designer who wears very bright clothing. It feels like, 555 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: do you think that he kind of you know, targeted, 556 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 1: targeted her for He's like, well, she's got she's got 557 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: very interesting taste. Can we just talk about how crazy 558 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: all this is? I know there are so many people 559 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: out there who are just can we just be normal? 560 00:34:55,600 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: Like the dude would dress up in women's clothing and 561 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: appears to have had an infatuation with stealing random luggage 562 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: all the time. I mean, it appears that this is 563 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: a compulsion that was taking place everywhere. I don't know 564 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: if it's random, though, Clay, I think this is the 565 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 1: new wrinkle in the story. I feel like maybe he's 566 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: he's like that lady really knows how to how to 567 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: pull together an outfit. But here's the deal. First of all, 568 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: I hate checking bags. We're going to Italy. I've never 569 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 1: been to Italy. I can't wait. The whole family's going. 570 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: We're not checking a single bag. Wow, look at you. 571 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 1: Because and my wife's credit, she's the same way. The 572 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: fear is you'll lose a bag. If you're going on 573 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: a week long trip. It doesn't make it to where 574 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: you're going. It's infuriating. I'd rather show up. As long 575 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: as I have a passport or a wallet and a 576 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 1: cell phone, I'll go buy like a fifty dollar outfit 577 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: somewhere and just wear like you can always find clothes 578 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: right as long as you have a wallet, As long 579 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: as you got a you know, ability to walk into 580 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: a store, But I have no idea when on the 581 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: rare occasion when we have to check a bag, like 582 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: ninety percent of bags look the same. Right, you have 583 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: to put like a bow tie on your bag, all 584 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: of them are like black or brown. It feels like 585 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: I made our most recent purchase. My wife, I said, 586 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: let's just get lime green luggage. No one else will 587 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 1: will never get confused as to whether this is ours 588 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: or not, like a big lime green luggage tank. So 589 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: to your point, I don't know that you could even 590 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: target luggage very easily because it all looks so similar, right, 591 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: does that make sense, Like it's all like black and brown. 592 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: I think this was just a compulsion, and sometimes he 593 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 1: got lucky. Not a few were doing like a steak 594 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: out and seeing who turned in their luggage and then 595 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: tried to grab it first.