1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio News. 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 2: Good morning. 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 3: I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 3: stories we're following today, Karen. 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 2: The Big lift in Futures comes after President Donald Trump 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 2: said he never had any intention to fire Federal Reserve 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: Chair j Powell. The parent walkback comes days after the 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: President posted on social media that Powell's termination quote cannot 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: come fast enough, and his National Economic Council director told 10 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: reporters that Trump was exploring whether he had the authority 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: to remove the FED chair, But when asked directly yesterday 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: if he wanted to remove Powell, President Trump had this 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 2: to say. 14 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 4: Never did the press runs away with things now? I 15 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 4: have no intention of firing him. I would like to 16 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 4: see him be a little more active in terms of 17 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 4: his idea to lower interest Rate's just a perfect time 18 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 4: to lower interest rates. If he doesn't, is at the 19 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 4: end to no, it's not. 20 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: The Fed has kept interest rates unchanged this year, after 21 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: lowering them by a full percentage point in the last 22 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: few months of twenty twenty four. 23 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 3: Well, Nathan, The apparent easing of White House pressure on 24 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 3: the Fed comes as President Trump indicates a willingness to 25 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 3: dial down tariff tensions with China. He told reporters he 26 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 3: plans to be very nice to China and any trade negotiations, 27 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 3: and that tariffs could be reduced if the two countries 28 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: reach a deal. 29 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 4: One hundred and forty five percent is very high, and 30 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 4: it won't be that high. 31 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 5: Not going to be that high. It got up to there. 32 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 4: We were talking about fed and all where you know, 33 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 4: various elements built it up to one hundred and forty five. No, 34 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 4: it won't be anywhere near that high. It'll come down substantially, 35 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 4: but it won't be zero. Used to be zero. We 36 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 4: were just destroyed. China was taking us for a ride, 37 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:51,919 Speaker 4: and it's not going to happen. 38 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: And top Chinese officials, including the Central bank governor and 39 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: finance minister, are in Washington for World Bank and IMF 40 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 3: meetings this week. 41 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: In Beijing, Karen China says the door is wide open 42 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: to trade talks. A Foreign Ministry spokesman says China's pointed 43 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: out early on that there are no winners in tariff 44 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: and trade wars. Chinese President she Jinpink says they undermine 45 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 2: the legitimate rights and interests of all countries and hurt 46 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 2: the world economic order. China's official Shinwa news agency says 47 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: she made those comments during a meeting with the President 48 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 2: of Azerbaijan on Nathan. 49 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 3: The International Monetary Fund is slashing its global growth forecast 50 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 3: and is warning that trade war could spark even more 51 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 3: economic pain. The IMF now expects global GDP to grow 52 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 3: by just two point eight percent, versus its previous estimate 53 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 3: of three point three percent. IMF's Managing Director Christelina Georgiaeva 54 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: told Bloomberg, the risk of a global recession is growing. 55 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 6: If we have this cloud of uncertainty coming lower and lower, 56 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 6: making it difficult for the business community and for households 57 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 6: to take decisions, we could have a self inflicted injury 58 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 6: that I guarantee you we would regret. 59 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 3: Managing Director Kristallina georgia Yeva and the IMF cut its 60 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 3: growth outlook for China and the US by more than 61 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 3: most countries and. 62 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: Karen Elon Musk says he plans to keep advocating for 63 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 2: President Trump to pull back on tariffs, but he says 64 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: the issue is entirely up to the President. Musk says 65 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: tariffs are impacting TESLA, but not as much as its competitors. 66 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 7: We are I think the least a company, the least 67 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 7: affected car company with respected tariffs. We do have localize 68 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 7: supply chains in both America and Europe and China. So 69 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 7: that's that puts us in a stronger position than any 70 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 7: of our betters. 71 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: And most comments came on the Tesla earnings conference call, 72 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: but it was the billionaire's remarks about his future work 73 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: with a government that has the stock on the rise 74 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 3: this morning. 75 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 7: Starting probably in next month, may my time allocation to 76 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 7: dose will drop significantly. I'll have to contin you're doing 77 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 7: it ball. I think we apply the remainder of the 78 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 7: president's term. Just make sure that the waste and fraud 79 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 7: that we stop does not come roaring back. 80 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 3: And jeers Ah Tesla are up six percent in early trading, 81 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 3: this despite the evmaker reporting first quarter earnings below estimates. 82 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 2: All another big tech companies making news Karen job cuts 83 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: are coming to Intel. We have more on this exclusive 84 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 2: story from Bloomberg's John Tucker. 85 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 8: John, Good morning, Nathan. Intel plans to announce cuts to 86 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 8: more than twenty percent of the workforce, that's about twenty 87 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 8: two thousand workers. This as part of the Silicon Valley 88 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 8: based company's first major restructuring under the new CEO, Lipboo 89 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 8: Tan Tan, who took over at March, wants to streamline 90 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 8: management and re establish Intel's engineer driven corporate culture. He 91 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 8: previously announced the struggling chip giant would sell its majority 92 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 8: stake and it's altera business, and so he intends to 93 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 8: spin off some of the Intel non core business. It's 94 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 8: all part of the turnaround efforts there. Intel has fallen 95 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 8: behind its rivals at producing ai AI chips. It also 96 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 8: faces the effects of the Trump administration's trade war with China. 97 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,799 Speaker 8: They do report earnings tomorrow. Intel shares have slid nearly 98 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 8: twenty percent of the past month. They're down forty three 99 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 8: percent over the past year. At pre market. The shares 100 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 8: right now up over three percent in New York. I'm 101 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 8: John Tucker Bloomberg Radio. 102 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 3: All right, John, thanks, we'll ever see. Shares of SAP 103 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 3: are up almost ten percent. Europe's most valuable company reported 104 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 3: first quarter earnings that top analyst estimates. The German software 105 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 3: company says profit was fueled by its pivot to cloud services. 106 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: It's pivot back here to the US Karen as the 107 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 2: standoff continues between the Trump administration and Harvard University over 108 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 2: more than two billion dollars in federal funds. The nation's 109 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 2: oldest university sued this week to unlock that money, saying 110 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 2: the government made unconstitutional demands to overhaul Harvard's governance, hiring, 111 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: and diversity programs. Former Harvard president Larry Summer says the 112 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 2: university does need to change its approach to anti semitism, 113 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 2: but he hopes cooler heads prevail. 114 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 9: I think there's a risk on both sides. I want 115 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 9: to make sure that Harvard does carry through with necessary reform, 116 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:13,679 Speaker 9: but Gush, we can't have the government ordering universities around 117 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 9: in violation of all the processes that are prescribed by law. 118 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 2: Former Harvard president and current Bloomberg contributor Larry Summers says 119 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: the government should recognize Harvard's making changes and keep the 120 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: money flowing through that process. Summers was a guest on 121 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Wall Street Week. 122 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: It's time now for a look at some of the 123 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 3: other stories making news in New York and around the world, 124 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 3: and for that we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr. 125 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 10: Michael, Good morning, Good morning, Karen. A solemn procession brought 126 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 10: the body of Pope Francis to Saint Peter's Basilica this morning. 127 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 10: The Pope's body will now lie in state. Heads of 128 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 10: state are expected for the funeral Saturday in Saint Peter's Square, 129 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 10: but the three days of public viewing are largely for 130 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 10: the faithful to mourn the eighty eight year old pope. 131 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 10: Sister Jeanette Godett is a spiritual leader who served under 132 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 10: the Pope in Rome. 133 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 3: He was somebody that I will never forget because he 134 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 3: was so personal and funny, personal and funny and full 135 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: of joy and hope. 136 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 10: Francis died Monday after suffering a stroke. Health and Human 137 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 10: Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Junior questioned the need for 138 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 10: all children to get COVID shots amid reports that the 139 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 10: US government is considering revoking its current vaccine recommendations. Kennedy 140 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 10: says President Trump doesn't believe that anybody should get mandatory vaccines, 141 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 10: and people should make that choice for themselves. His comments 142 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 10: come after Kennedy announced earlier a government campaign to face 143 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 10: out petroleum base dies from the nation's food supply, saying 144 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 10: it makes children sick. 145 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 5: They want to eat petroleum. They ought to add it themselves. 146 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 5: At home, but they shouldn't be feeding it to the 147 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 5: rest of us. 148 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 10: The move will trigger changes and scores of products on 149 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 10: grocery store shelves. Crews are battling a forest fire in 150 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 10: southern New Jersey. It has shut a stretch of the 151 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 10: Garden State Parkway, sparked evacuations and threatens to snarl commuters. 152 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 10: The fire has grown to eighty five one hundred acres, 153 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 10: with three thousand residents evacuated, inching closer to the Oyster 154 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 10: Creek Nuclear power plant. This resident says he felt helpless 155 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 10: as flames and smoke spread out. 156 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 5: I said, they progressed. It was kind of scary. You know, 157 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 5: you didn't know exactly what was going to happen for 158 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 5: you leave, Should you stay? What should you take with you? 159 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 10: The fire is only ten percent contained. Finally, opening statements 160 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 10: are scheduled for this morning in New York in former 161 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 10: movie mogul Harvey Weinstein's rape retrial. It will be with 162 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 10: a majority female jury with seven women, five men, and 163 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 10: six alternate jurors. Weinstein, who is seventy three, is pleded 164 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 10: not guilty and denies any rape or sexual assault. Global 165 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 10: News twenty four hours a day and whenever you want 166 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 10: it with Bloomberg News now him Michael Barr, and this 167 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 10: is Bloomberg Carrot. 168 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 3: All right, Michael Barr, thank you. Time now for the 169 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 3: Bloomberg scores update, and here's John Stanshauer. 170 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 5: John, good morning, Good morning, Karen. 171 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 11: I hopes for the Mets this season. Made it the 172 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 11: last year's NLCS. Then added one Soto who has not 173 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 11: broken out yet, but the Mets pitching has been outstanding. 174 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 11: At two point three seven, they've got MLB's lowest team 175 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 11: era and the Mets keep winning that city field. Now 176 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 11: eleven and one, they beat the Phillies five to one. 177 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 11: This time it was Griffin Cannon working five strong ginnings 178 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 11: four relievers then heard four scoreless, allowing only one head. 179 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 11: A little payback for the Cleveland Guardians who lost last 180 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 11: year's ALCS to the Yankees. They scratched across three runs. 181 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 11: Sixth innings beat the Yanks for the second night in 182 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 11: a row, three to two. Red Sox beat Seattle eight 183 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 11: to three, National seven nothing over the Orioles. Home teams 184 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 11: one of the NBA Playoffs, Indiana and Oklahoma City, both 185 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 11: of them have two nothing series leads. The Lakers got 186 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 11: thirty one points a near triple double from Luka Donciic 187 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 11: won a low scoring ninety four to eighty five game 188 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 11: of Minnesota. That series tied at one. The Devils are 189 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 11: banged up for their series with Carolina. They scored first 190 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 11: about Formingu's end of the Hurricanes, who won Game one 191 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 11: four to one, took Game two three to one, also 192 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 11: winning the Stanley Cup playoffs Florida, Minnesota and Toronto in overtime. 193 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 11: The NFL Draft agains tomorrow night in Green Bay, and 194 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 11: the Tennessee Titans have confirmed they are not trading the 195 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 11: first overall pick unless everyone is wrong. They're taking quarterback 196 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 11: cam Ward Cleveland. Pick second may well take Colorado's two 197 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 11: way star Travis Hunter. He plays wide receiver and cornerback. 198 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 11: If the Browns don't take him, the Giants might with 199 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,359 Speaker 11: the third pick. Here's Giants coach Brian Daboll on Hunters. 200 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 12: Well, it takes a long time to evaluate him because 201 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 12: there's a lot of tape. It's a really remarkable what 202 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 12: he has done and the ability to perform at that level, 203 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 12: not really getting arrested. 204 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 11: The Patriots have the fourth overall pick. The Jets have 205 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 11: the seventh. John Stashawain Bloomberg Sports nan. 206 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio nationwide on Serious Exam 207 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 208 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business Appum, this is Bloomberg Daybreak. 209 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. President Donald Trump appears to 210 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: be softening his tone when it comes to the FED 211 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: and China. With both the US and China leveling triple 212 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 2: digit tariffs against each other, the President now says he 213 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 2: plans to be very nice in any negotiations. 214 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 4: We're doing fine with China, We're doing fine with every 215 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 4: I think almost every country. Everybody wants to have involvement 216 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 4: with the United States. 217 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 2: And that was President Trump speaking in the Oval Office 218 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: this morning. We were joined by Bloomberg News Senior editor 219 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 2: Derek Wallbank. So there we heard the President, Derek saying 220 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 2: he plans to play nice, not just with China but 221 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 2: other countries. But where do things stand substantially when it 222 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: comes to the trade dispute between the US and China. 223 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 13: Good morning, Good morning, Nathan. Let me end underline the 224 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 13: word that you said, substantially, right, because it's different than sentimentality. 225 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 13: We've seen a little bit of a sentiment uptick in 226 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 13: markets following not just the China trade remarks, but also 227 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 13: the remarks that Trump made about not wanting to fire 228 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 13: Jay Powell. On the trade side, it's nothing has changed 229 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 13: on the substance right now. What you've gotten is a 230 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 13: sort of underlining from the President of something that I 231 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 13: think he and his team had had been sort of marking, 232 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 13: which was that the China tariffs right now are intended 233 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 13: to be at their high water mark, and that provides 234 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 13: a certain amount of security against potential downside. Additionally, he's 235 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 13: also sort of talking up the idea that they would 236 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 13: like to get a deal. But let's stress here, while 237 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 13: there are plenty of options to begin them, there are 238 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 13: no current high level between the US and China. And indeed, 239 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 13: when we're talking about easier deals to make, you would 240 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 13: think easier deals anyway with top allies, be that Japan, 241 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 13: be that the United Kingdom, be that Israel, whoever you 242 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 13: might want to put into there, we still have not 243 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 13: seen the first of those deals actually come to fruition. 244 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 13: So the idea that China, which would be hypothetically a 245 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 13: lot more fraud, the idea that we might be coming 246 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 13: down anytime soon because a deal might be signed. There's 247 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 13: not necessarily talks in the works yet, so all of 248 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 13: that feels a little bit preliminary. 249 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 2: And there's still a question, isn't there, Derek, about what 250 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: the president wants out of a trade deal with China. 251 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 2: We've heard a lot of different commentary about what the end. 252 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 13: Goal is here or with anyone. Really, It's one of 253 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 13: the things that I think a lot of nations are 254 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 13: trying to ask themselves right now is what does the 255 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 13: US want? What is the full scope of demand, and 256 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 13: what are the key points that they really need to 257 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 13: insist on. You know, we got some we got some 258 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 13: clarity with the UK that there may be asks, chiefly 259 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 13: around agricultural imports about you know, certain specific tariff lines, 260 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 13: you know, autos, things of that nature. And you know, 261 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 13: we've heard from Trump say in certain other cases, you know, 262 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 13: he's mentioned automobiles again or another example, uh with Japan, 263 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,119 Speaker 13: and he's mentioned agriculture and other settings. But what exactly 264 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 13: that other that that whole thing looks like that will 265 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 13: get a deal done? Very much remains to be seen. 266 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 13: You know, you look at Israel pulled off a lot 267 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 13: of the tariff barriers that they had on the United States, 268 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 13: before Trump's Liberation Day announcement and got hit with a 269 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 13: seventeen percent levy. Anyway, it's hard to kind of see 270 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 13: exactly where the frame of these deals are. Though at 271 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 13: some point this rhetoric is where, you know, we're in 272 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 13: a ninety day window. At some point the rhetoric has 273 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 13: to turn to reality to keep up this sentiment uptick. 274 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: And the rhetoric around the FED is that the President 275 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: says he never had any intention of firing Jay Powell. 276 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: There's the question about whether he could do that, but 277 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 2: he's still talking about wanting to lower interest rate. So 278 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: where is the pressure on the FED in our last 279 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: thirty seconds? 280 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 13: Well, I think, Nathan, the pressure on the FED comes 281 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 13: into the fact that Donald Trump believes he has a 282 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 13: First Amendment right to say exactly what he wants on 283 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 13: the FED, and he is going to continue doing it. 284 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 13: He is going to use that megaphone to say exactly 285 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 13: what he wants out of the FED right now. What 286 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 13: he wants his lower rates, He wants them now, he 287 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 13: wanted them before, but he really wants them to go 288 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 13: now as quick as possible. 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