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Speaker 1: Mets, the fans, you're in for a special one.

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Speaker 2: Today is the big reliever episode that I know you

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Speaker 2: guys have all been waiting for every single year. Me

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Speaker 2: and James deep dive into the reliever market, the Mets bullpen.

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Speaker 1: What it's gonna look like, What we're gonna see.

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Speaker 2: We did it weirdly enough, about a year ago to

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Speaker 2: the day, complete accidents, So we're ripping relievers again. There

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Speaker 2: is a little bit of housekeeping stuff before you get

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Speaker 2: going into this. Of course, involving Pete Alonso. We heard

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Speaker 2: that Pete Alonzo's camp went to the New York Mets

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Speaker 2: told him we'll take a three year deal with player options.

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Speaker 2: I mean, James, this is what we knew was gonna

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Speaker 2: happen the entire time. He's gonna sign with the Mets.

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Speaker 2: This really isn't even like news besides the fact that

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Speaker 2: it just seems we're getting closer and closer to Pete

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Speaker 2: crumbling and just being like, I'll do whatever you guys say.

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Speaker 1: Don't jinx anything, don't say I mean, I hope it happens.

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Speaker 1: We thought it was gonna happen. Yeah again, closer. The

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Speaker 1: report was also corroborated by Will salmon. We also don't

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Speaker 1: really know what that means, like with to ask for

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Speaker 1: a three year, one hundred and thirty million dollar contract,

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Speaker 1: that's fair, that's fair. That's fair. I'm saying like, like,

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Speaker 1: well you asked, like we could have done that, because

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Speaker 1: all the whole report was like he's willing. He came

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Speaker 1: to the Mets with the short term delo's only for

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Speaker 1: short and deal, I'm still gonna bend you over the browse.

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Speaker 1: We don't know, we'll know all the details. It was

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Speaker 1: corroborated though, and we just hope that this comes to a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be nice to have Pete a lionso

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Speaker 2: penciled into that lineup at least for the upcoming season

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Speaker 2: and hopefully for a few more afterwards.

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Speaker 2: is gonna be our reliever episode. We're going to go

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Speaker 2: through the Mets, bullpen, what we think they should do,

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Speaker 2: what they've got. Where we're going. Where do you want

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Speaker 2: to start first shames?

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Speaker 1: I think I want to start off with. I think

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Speaker 1: where a lot of people want us to start. But

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Speaker 1: it's not gonna be what a lot of people want

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Speaker 1: to hear. Just rip off this band aid. Tanner Scott's

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Speaker 1: not going to be a met There's probably a less

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Speaker 1: give Tanner Scott would looks like it's going to become

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Speaker 1: I can't really see this happening. Is a lot of

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Speaker 1: fantasy baseball draft, starting to get that going and try

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Speaker 1: to navigate the closer markets. Crazy because Tanner Scott, who's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think everybody knows that Tanner Scott

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Speaker 2: This is not us saying we don't want Tanner Scott

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Speaker 2: It's just that at a multi year deal for a

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Speaker 2: there's absolutely no reason, no way David Searns all of

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Speaker 1: We need to win a World Series right now, do

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Speaker 1: whatever it takes. Then again like I still don't. I

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty three, the Rangers, Chris Martin was their highest

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Speaker 1: Twenty eighteen, the Red Sox Craig Kimberl thirteen million dollars

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Speaker 1: gregorson six million dollars. Oh, Luke Gregorson. That's inant that's in.

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Speaker 2: Then we start talking about twenty seventeen, that's like just

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Speaker 1: the Mets already have the highest paid reliever in baseball,

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Speaker 1: Edward Diaz, it's so so so unlikely to meet that

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Speaker 1: they add the one, the second or third highest paid

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that fifteen to twenty million dollars again could

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Speaker 2: be used on so many relievers, it can be used

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Speaker 2: on maybe a big, power hitting first baseman like that

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Speaker 2: money could be better used elsewhere. And if you think

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Speaker 2: Tanner Scott is the difference maker for this New York

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Speaker 2: Mets team, You're you're crazy, You're insane. He's just simply

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Speaker 2: he's a great reliever. But Tarre Scott's not the difference

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Speaker 2: between this team being a National League East winner and

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Speaker 2: like Pete A. Lonzo, which is where all the money

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Speaker 1: It would definitely help, though I'm not saying that makes

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Speaker 1: two and TNS Scott would be cool, But I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think it's worth forty million dollars. And again,

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Speaker 2: guys will be on the team as long as healthy.

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Speaker 1: Those guys are full locks, and those that will probably

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Speaker 1: I think for unless. I mean we'll talk about some

433
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Speaker 1: of the free agents on the trade guys vailable a

434
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Speaker 1: little bit, but I think it's a really good chance

435
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Speaker 1: like that. That's the closer in seventh man as we

436
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Speaker 1: go into opening day. But then past that, we have

437
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Speaker 1: guys who are gonna have a good shot to make

438
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Speaker 1: this team, mostly because they're out of options. That's Jose Boudou,

439
00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,000
Speaker 1: who we don't know his role is going to be,

440
00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,240
Speaker 1: but he was really good at the times the bullpen

441
00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:22,840
Speaker 1: last year. He's gonna be stretched to the star this We're

442
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Speaker 1: gonna see what happens. But he's out of options, so

443
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Speaker 1: he if he's on the team, he's on the team.

444
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Speaker 1: Then Sean Reid Foley, who we've all seen flash but

445
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Speaker 1: he just can't seem to stay healthy. Dan Young's under contract.

446
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Speaker 1: He's right now the only lefty I think on the

447
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Speaker 1: forty man. I want to say maybe one of two

448
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Speaker 1: or three lefties in the forty man, but he's the

449
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Speaker 1: one who's out of options. I think he'll be the

450
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Speaker 1: lefty on opening day. Dylan Kovee, who's talked about before,

451
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Speaker 1: seems like he'll be in, say McGriffin canning. These guys

452
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Speaker 1: seem like they'll be more in the star of the

453
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Speaker 1: reliever line, like they're gonna have the opportunities to start

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Speaker 1: and we'll see how they wind up as relievers. And

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Speaker 1: then you have the rest of the relievers in the

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Speaker 1: forty man roster. You have Tyler Zueber, who I think

457
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Speaker 1: is kind of fun. He's been really good with Mets

458
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Speaker 1: fans on Twitter. If you guys haven't seen him on

459
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Speaker 1: Twitter yet, definitely throw him a follow because he's so

460
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Speaker 1: sharing a lot of the work he's done this offseas

461
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Speaker 1: and he has one of the craziest pitches in all baseball.

462
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Speaker 1: He has like a rising sweeper, like a sweeper that

463
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Speaker 1: like it. It's bizarre pitch. We post a lot videos up.

464
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Speaker 1: It's really really cool and you can get the fastball

465
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Speaker 1: in ninety seven miles now. So I think he's a

466
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Speaker 1: lot of fun that we have favorite of always Wasscar

467
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Speaker 1: Braso Bond and then Ken and Kevin Hrgant, Max Kranick,

468
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Speaker 1: and Justin Hagen and other guys who are on the

469
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Speaker 1: forty man roster, but probably more for length than guys

470
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Speaker 1: who are actually gonna be able to mix in ever

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Speaker 1: as an impact reliever.

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Speaker 2: I'll never forget when Wasscar Brazo bah got traded to

473
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Speaker 2: this team and just hearing like other people in the

474
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Speaker 2: world talking about Wasscar Brasabon one not knowing his age,

475
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Speaker 2: not having a clue that he was in his mid thirties,

476
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Speaker 2: and two talking about him as if he was like

477
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Speaker 2: this guaranteed gonna be this huge guy getting big outs

478
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Speaker 2: for the Mets in big games. He got sent down

479
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Speaker 2: within a couple of weeks. The whole thing was him

480
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Speaker 2: was like free, controllable reliever who throws like ninety seven.

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Speaker 1: We'll take it. We'll try him out. Yeah, as long

482
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Speaker 1: as we don't dfa Wasscar bros Bond, it's good chance

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Speaker 1: he retires as a New York match Definitely. He's he's

484
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Speaker 1: gonna becoming forever met these xt few years. So you

485
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Speaker 1: get used to Watscar bras Bon because he's on the

486
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Speaker 1: forty the man roster. He has a good change up

487
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Speaker 1: and then he just has tons of options and then

488
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Speaker 1: after that group of guys that's probably the mix. Those

489
00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,960
Speaker 1: like nine or ten names I just gave that likely

490
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Speaker 1: going to be the guys who are in this Major

491
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Speaker 1: league bullpen besides any other signings we make for the

492
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Speaker 1: next month or two. Then we have the glob of chaos,

493
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Speaker 1: and I love the glob of chaos. The glob of

494
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Speaker 1: chaos is how we found Read Garrett, the glob of chaos,

495
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Speaker 1: how we found that in Neiel Noonyez Like this is

496
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Speaker 1: how you this is how you kind of look up

497
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Speaker 1: in August. You're like, who the hell is Oliver Ortega?

498
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Speaker 1: Why is he getting big outs right now?

499
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Speaker 2: Shout out to the giants because they took that meal

500
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Speaker 2: from us in the rule five one year and then

501
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Speaker 2: they didn't use him, so we got him back.

502
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Speaker 1: So he really is a glob of chaos. But the

503
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Speaker 1: glob of chaos is Genesis Cabrera, and Heenesis hennessis Cabrera.

504
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Speaker 1: Who he's He's a left of you throws ninety six,

505
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Speaker 1: but the curve ball has been very, very bast at

506
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Speaker 1: the sticky stuff, and that was always his best. Osby

507
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Speaker 1: Pitch Anthony Goos, Mike King Legend originally almost trade to

508
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Speaker 1: the Mets with Noah Sindergarten twenty eleven. But he was

509
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Speaker 1: now filled. He changed to become a pitcher. He was

510
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Speaker 1: trying to get his feet under him. He's still left.

511
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Speaker 1: He throws ninety six with a nasty slide, so that's

512
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Speaker 1: a cool story. He's also a hass. You got to

513
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Speaker 1: see Anthony Ghost. The guy's a brick a mon. He

514
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Speaker 1: was a huge prospect outfielder, so he's a huge prospect

515
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Speaker 1: outfield now. He threw ninety six on the left side

516
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Speaker 1: in his mid thirties. Kristofinski, Once upon a time he

517
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Speaker 1: had one of the best change up in the league.

518
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Speaker 1: It's not that's not true anymore. Oliver a teg. I

519
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Speaker 1: just shouted him out. He's a weird one. I learned

520
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Speaker 1: about him, like only a few hours ago. I didn't

521
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Speaker 1: even know him that signed it. But look at some videos.

522
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Speaker 1: He sits ninety six, he's got a good slider, he's

523
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Speaker 1: got okay curve. You missed all of last year with

524
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Speaker 1: a couple of different small elbow surgeries. It was a

525
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Speaker 1: bone spur, it was a loose body, things like that.

526
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Speaker 1: But he's another guy who I'm just like io. I

527
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Speaker 1: watched I watched them videos like this guy has some stuff.

528
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Speaker 1: And then of course also Grant Hartwig, he's still technically

529
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Speaker 1: in the glob of chaos. He has options now the

530
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Speaker 1: forty men roster, but he's still he's still puthering around

531
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Speaker 1: down there in Syracuse. Yeah, it's a good way to

532
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Speaker 1: put it. He's puttering around in Syracuse.

533
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like there's Mets fans are gonna the

534
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Speaker 2: new people to this podcast are like, I can't even

535
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Speaker 2: believe these guys are talk about these relievers right now,

536
00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,359
Speaker 2: and this is like exactly what we love because this

537
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Speaker 2: is like, this is the crazy, this is the glob

538
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Speaker 2: of chaos, this is the fun stuff. Because the Mets

539
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Speaker 2: are gonna have big names at all these other positions,

540
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Speaker 2: but how can we like The reason the Mets can

541
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Speaker 2: have some of those big names too, is is because

542
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Speaker 2: you can use some of these cheap, free guys you've

543
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Speaker 2: never heard of in your bullpen because you really don't

544
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Speaker 2: need to pay your seventh or lever any amount of

545
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Speaker 2: money besides the league minimum. So these guys, as weird

546
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Speaker 2: as it sounds, they will they some of them will

547
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Speaker 2: be getting outs for the Mets this year. Some of

548
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Speaker 2: them will be getting big outs for the Mets this year,

549
00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,040
Speaker 2: not the biggest, but they'll be getting big outs in

550
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Speaker 2: the sixth inning of a game against the Milwaukee Brewers

551
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Speaker 2: maybe at some point. It's just it's fun because this

552
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Speaker 2: is what separates and you said at the beginning, the

553
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Speaker 2: good teams from the great teams. Being able to find

554
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Speaker 2: how to make your twenty fifth, twenty six, twenty fourth

555
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Speaker 2: man on this roster a valuable asset to your team

556
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Speaker 2: and something we've preached on this podcast since we started.

557
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Speaker 2: This was a huge problem that previous Mets organizations had.

558
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Speaker 2: They had twenty five men on the roster. They had

559
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Speaker 2: about eighteen guys and then the rest of them they

560
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Speaker 2: were like, yeah, whatever, we'll figure it out, like we

561
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Speaker 2: just simply have to roster people. Now the Mets look

562
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Speaker 2: like they're trying to maximize their spots as much as possible.

563
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Speaker 1: Even past that it's the thirties, ninth, the fortieth guys,

564
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Speaker 1: and the forty man roster, the guys who are maybe

565
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Speaker 1: even maybe not even on the forty men roster, the

566
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Speaker 1: guys we are going to shuffle up and down, Like

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Speaker 1: I'm confident that one of the four members of the

568
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Speaker 1: glob of chaos. I just named between Hennis's Cabrera, Anthony Gohs, Kristovinski,

569
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Speaker 1: and Ali of Ortega one of those guys getting a

570
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Speaker 1: big out in July. I literally guarantee I can't. I can't,

571
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Speaker 1: and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I think that

572
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Speaker 1: past that well, we love the glob of chaos. I

573
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Speaker 1: think David Stearns will keep adding to the glob of chaos.

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Speaker 1: Just more non roster invite just get as many bodies

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Speaker 1: you can in the spring training. But I would be

576
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Speaker 1: shocked if we go into the offseason without signing one

577
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Speaker 1: or two more major league contracts to relievers. And the

578
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Speaker 1: best part about that is that there's still so many

579
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Speaker 1: believers that are available. Barely half of their available relievers

580
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Speaker 1: have signed deals. Tanner Scott the best reliever again we started,

581
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Speaker 1: we talked about at the top of the show. He

582
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Speaker 1: still has not gone yet. This reliever market really hasn't moved.

583
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Speaker 1: And truthfully, I'm not even exaggerating, not even trying to

584
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Speaker 1: be a jerk. There's probably ten to fifteen interesting names

585
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Speaker 1: of guys out there that we can sign for one

586
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Speaker 1: or two year deals for like either eight or fewer

587
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Speaker 1: million dollars a year and who will again be guys

588
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Speaker 1: who I can be confident will get us big outs

589
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Speaker 1: in July, August, September, and hopefully October.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think one of the biggest names. And I

591
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Speaker 2: spoke with this with Wardy on his channel the other day.

592
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Speaker 2: The name that he was bringing up, David Robertson is

593
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Speaker 2: still available, is a do we know who can pitch

594
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Speaker 2: in New York And he's been great the last two years.

595
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Speaker 2: I mean remember when he took over Fredwin Dias when

596
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Speaker 2: he blew out his knee like he was awesome. That

597
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Speaker 2: season would have really been over if they didn't have

598
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Speaker 2: David Robertson. So I would the number one guy in

599
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Speaker 2: my list right now in terms of relievers I think

600
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Speaker 2: can actually make a difference on this team.

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Speaker 1: I think it starts and ends with David Robertson. I

602
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Speaker 1: think so too. And the big thing with David Robertson

603
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Speaker 1: is that he first of all, the curveball is still tremendous,

604
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Speaker 1: the cover is still fantastic, and this past year and

605
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Speaker 1: when he pitched the whole season, pulled up's age thirty

606
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Speaker 1: nine years old. He turned thirty nine in April. He'll

607
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Speaker 1: be filled before you by the time this next season

608
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Speaker 1: really gets going. He has highest strikeout rate in seven seasons. Yep.

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Speaker 1: It's like literally since he was like like in his

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Speaker 1: early thirties, and he's still kind of like one of

611
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Speaker 1: like a regular all star caliber reliever. He's still tremendous.

612
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Speaker 1: I love that he has experience in the back end

613
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Speaker 1: because I know that, again, we're very high on Daniel

614
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Speaker 1: News and Regarrett. It'd be really nice to have one

615
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Speaker 1: more veteran that we could really trust in the seventh

616
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Speaker 1: and eighth things on most nights, and we can then

617
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Speaker 1: kind of be able to weaponize Garrey the noon. He

618
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Speaker 1: has more for like pick their spott, getting coming with

619
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Speaker 1: guys on base, get out, get out of the beginnings.

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Speaker 1: Robertson to me, I agree with you, especially because he's

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Speaker 1: so old. He's probably gonna be one year deal. He's

622
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Speaker 1: so high on my list of a guy I really

623
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Speaker 1: really want his pulpit, someone I would trust a lot

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Speaker 1: with the eighth inning and opening.

625
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Speaker 2: And I know Mets fans want a left handed reliever

626
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Speaker 2: so badly, a name that they can get out the

627
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Speaker 2: lefties in the division. Right we have Kyle Schworber, Bryce Harper,

628
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Speaker 2: Matt Olson, James Wood is going to be a guy

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Speaker 2: that we're gonna need to get some lefties to face

630
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Speaker 2: at some point.

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Speaker 1: David Robertson owns left handed batters.

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Speaker 2: Last year he faced almost the same amount of lefties

633
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Speaker 2: as he did righties in sixty six games, and they

634
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Speaker 2: have one forty five with a four to sixty ops

635
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Speaker 2: against him. Left handed batters against David Robertson, who's a

636
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Speaker 2: right handed pitcher. That cutter is discussing it's really hard

637
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Speaker 2: for lefties too. Is shut adjusted to you could kind

638
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Speaker 2: of kill two birds with one stone there and have

639
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Speaker 2: a guy who can get both out, which I know

640
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Speaker 2: is something that you, James, you always talk about like

641
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 2: that's an issue for a lot of pitchers, the age

642
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Speaker 2: you can only really get one side of that played out.

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Speaker 1: David Robertson's doing it against both. That's one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite things also about Riguez Daniel Nunia is like they're

645
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Speaker 1: very very platoon independent, where especially Daniel, because he has

646
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Speaker 1: that that sly that's basically a death ball. It's just

647
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Speaker 1: like a straight up and down pitch. You're not really

648
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Speaker 1: getting a platoon advantage. You decided to play it against

649
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Speaker 1: that and Rid Garrett with the splither too like that.

650
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Speaker 1: That's I think one of the reasons that the Mets

651
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Speaker 1: haven't really prioritized getting a high leverage, high level lefty

652
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Speaker 1: out of his bullpen. Yeah, I think that's why some

653
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Speaker 1: people are really clamoring for Tanners Scott. But I think

654
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Speaker 1: David starn has done a great job of being able

655
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Speaker 1: to avoid that problem, being able to kind of face

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Speaker 1: it in a different way, especially with three Bay the

657
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Speaker 1: minimum like having lefty they can only get lefties out,

658
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Speaker 1: doesn't all. It's truly not good all. Tim Hill was

659
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Speaker 1: a great lefty, reallyer for the Yankees. He's on this

660
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Speaker 1: list two guys that would take on the Mets next year.

661
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Speaker 1: It's a little it's a littlefficult. Sometimes him agains good

662
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Speaker 1: right handed bad. It's like we saw the Yankees get

663
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Speaker 1: in trouble in the post Heason trying to match up

664
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Speaker 1: in game plan with Tim Hill, because it just doesn't

665
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Speaker 1: line up as well for a guy like him as

666
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Speaker 1: it would for some other lefties who are a little

667
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Speaker 1: bit more platoon neutral or right these who are just

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Speaker 1: platoon neutral, like like the Mets have luckily have a

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Speaker 1: lot of Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, and I you've seen who the Mets have gone

671
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Speaker 2: after so far in the David Stearns era as well,

672
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Speaker 2: with left handed relievers like there he going to take

673
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Speaker 2: shots rather than guys who have like had the numbers

674
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Speaker 2: already totally. I think Robertson is the one guy who

675
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Speaker 2: I think we both agree on who has the numbers already,

676
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Speaker 2: who makes a lot of sense because of the New

677
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Speaker 2: York experience, landing experience again, Plato, neutral curve, bond color,

678
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Speaker 2: and then just the fact that he's still.

679
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Speaker 1: Awesome and only gonna want one year deal. Two other

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Speaker 1: guys who I think would make a lot of sense

681
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Speaker 1: for this, two guys who've also been in the Mets

682
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Speaker 1: within the last year, Ryan Stannik and Brooks Raley. I

683
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Speaker 1: think we both would really welcome reunions with one, if

684
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Speaker 1: not both of those guys. Standick really ingratiate himself with

685
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Speaker 1: Mets fans in the postseason that that bailed me out

686
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Speaker 1: badly because that was my guy year ago. I was

687
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Speaker 1: telling you guys how much I want Ryan Standick on

688
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Speaker 1: this team, and then he sucked ass for a month

689
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Speaker 1: after he traded for him, and people are killing me,

690
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you're like, oh, this now

691
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Speaker 1: our second most trusted reliever in the NLC. Yes, James,

692
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Speaker 1: you might have been right there. But Sandy is another

693
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Speaker 1: guy Righty is platoo neutral because he's got the fastball

694
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Speaker 1: that gets up on hitters, he's got the tight slider,

695
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Speaker 1: and he's got the splitther curve that falls down. I

696
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Speaker 1: can't remember right now. It's Standick, But Rayley's another guy

697
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Speaker 1: who he gets left. He's out, he's not. He doesn't

698
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Speaker 1: miss anything as right as either splither with Standic forgets

699
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Speaker 1: the standic splither. But those are two guys who have

700
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Speaker 1: experienced with the Mets. I think the thing with Standing

701
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: is he's probably out there looking for a three year deal.

702
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Speaker 1: He pitched so well in the playoffs. He might be

703
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: pricing himself out of the Mets. But every single day

704
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: that goes by is one day close to these guys

705
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Speaker 1: signing one to two year deals, exactly what David Starns wants.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the one thing I wonder with Brooks Raley is

707
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Speaker 2: maybe the arm is a little further behind there where

708
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Speaker 2: we thought, just because it seems like it would make

709
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 2: so much sense for him to just take a one

710
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Speaker 2: year deal with the Mets figure it out and then

711
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Speaker 2: if he really wants to again, try and get paid

712
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Speaker 2: next year. Even though he's a little bit older. I

713
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Speaker 2: know he's in his mid thirties, but uh, I mean

714
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Speaker 2: he was phenomenal. I think people forget how good Brooks

715
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Speaker 2: really was for the Mets in twenty twenty three. One

716
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Speaker 2: of the better left handed relievers is in terms of

717
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Speaker 2: outcomes in that season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pulling it up right now, but he always,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, his name pops up because I think

720
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Speaker 1: he has pitched in Korea before, like with Korean leathers

721
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Speaker 1: on the Fiagress, which carried the shit out of me.

722
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Speaker 1: For a second. I was like, did he go to

723
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Speaker 1: the KB out No, But in twenty twenty two and

724
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three is two sixty ras two adyra. It

725
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Speaker 1: was track out ras over twenty five percent. It was

726
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Speaker 1: just he's just a really, really, really good reliever. He's

727
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Speaker 1: one of the most sturdy d B lefties in baseball.

728
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Speaker 1: He's not a guy really welcome back, another guy a

729
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Speaker 1: bit more of a reclamation project, but someone who I

730
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Speaker 1: think could really benefit from what the Mets journey after

731
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Speaker 1: and Eric y Aegers do abrat Alzley, who was cut

732
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Speaker 1: by the Cubs early this offseason, a Cups team that

733
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Speaker 1: desperately needs relief help, it seems like they just kind

734
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Speaker 1: of quit trying to help him. The Matt Eddie friend

735
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Speaker 1: of the podcast, he focused on something a few weeks

736
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Speaker 1: agoing to tweet that I think it's really interesting of

737
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Speaker 1: where the Mets pitching philosophy is going. And it was

738
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Speaker 1: the fact that the metsa I think you know Sarahs

739
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: talked about too in the Rates and Barrels podcast, Mets

740
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Speaker 1: had the highest rate of pitchers on their roster last

741
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Speaker 1: year through three different fastballs. And Alzlay has the four

742
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: seemer of the sinker and the col and still with

743
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: a great slider. So I think this he he does

744
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: things the Mets already like and if they can just

745
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: kind of fix, like tweak a little a couple of

746
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: things a year and there still with the great slider

747
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: easily a guy who two years ago is truthly one

748
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Speaker 1: of most effctive leivers in baseball three years ago. So

749
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Speaker 1: that's something I feel like could be a one for

750
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Speaker 1: five million dollars. And you look up in July like,

751
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Speaker 1: oh my god, well, I can't believe got albert alslet

752
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: for free.

753
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw out some some bigger names at you

754
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 2: here that are available on the free agent market the

755
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: Mets fans might be more familiar with. And you tell

756
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 2: me whether or not you think there's an actual chance

757
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 2: that they signed with the Mets.

758
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Speaker 1: Kenlly Jansen, do you even want him? I definitely want

759
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: Kelly Janson is still good. Kelly Jansen has done incredibly

760
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: to just stave off aging. Like his fastball flossies keeps

761
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: dropping as strike cau rake keeps going up. I don't

762
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: know how he keeps doing it, but the guy's just

763
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: a hoss. Like if you've ever seen Kenley Jansen pitch

764
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Speaker 1: live like you you it doesn't do just he doesn't

765
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Speaker 1: do justice. How big he is when you watching on television.

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Speaker 2: I went to spring training back in twenty nineteen and

767
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 2: I was in the Dodgers clubhouse at spring training and

768
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Speaker 2: Kenley Jansen was walking around and we were with my

769
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Speaker 2: friend Healy, who's six foot five, huge human like built

770
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Speaker 2: like a like a football player. The guy's massive and

771
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Speaker 2: he stood next to Kenlee Jansen, who's listed as very

772
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Speaker 2: same similar height and weight. Ken Lee Jansen had like

773
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Speaker 2: three inches and like sixty pounds on him. The dude

774
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Speaker 2: is a mammoth human being. He is a mountain of

775
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Speaker 2: a man. If you hit him with your car, your

776
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 2: car is gonna like absolutely crumble and he'd walk away

777
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 2: just fine.

778
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: But like Kenley Jansen, he still just throws wicked colors

779
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: all the time. And he did this last year in

780
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: Family Park, where he was still again the strike guy

781
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: was still almost thirty percents fall and bowed thirty percent

782
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 1: last few years, spike back up last year. But you

783
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: get him in a place like City Field with good

784
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: defense behind him for cis gon door scooping up ground

785
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: balls like I think Kenley Jansen can be still easily

786
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: one of the twenty to thirty forty best relievers in baseball.

787
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: And he seems to kind of like the Met's vibe.

788
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: Last year he was working the OMG shirt like he

789
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: was playing them, which is insane.

790
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: He had some weird stuff going on in Boston, like

791
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: when he just left the season ended for them, they

792
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: couldn't make the ploffs, like I'm out and they just

793
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: let him go.

794
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 1: It was so weird. And he's the kind of guy

795
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,719
Speaker 1: who I feel like the fact that you have once

796
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: so though he'd be much more willing to come in

797
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: and play for your team for one year for not

798
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Speaker 1: very much money. The one thing I will say is

799
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: that he's like been on interviews I've seen from like

800
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: the Bat Boys and stuff on TikTok and Instagram where

801
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: they talk about like he just wants to play for

802
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: the Dodgers.

803
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Speaker 2: All he talks about is the Dodgers. He talks about

804
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,239
Speaker 2: that's his favorite place to play. He hopes he can

805
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: end his career with the Dodgers. All he wants to

806
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 2: do is play for them. And I thought that was

807
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: also weird when he was playing for the Red Sox,

808
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: who were still competitive at some point last year.

809
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the other thing about Kenley Jansen is he's

810
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: never not closed. So I'm not sure if he's willing

811
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: to not close. But I think when you have a

812
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Speaker 1: guy like Edwin Diaz, who you everyone knows is the closer,

813
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: like that's that's gonna be the guy. But I know

814
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: the Blue Jays fact contact with him. I don't think

815
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: the Red Socks are Dodge and Lincoln in this offseason.

816
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: He also had his shoulder thing at the end of

817
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: the year, which I think again might have been a

818
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: little fabricat because he just kind of wanted to leave

819
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: it seems like. But I think I Kenley Jansen was

820
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: willing to be a settle man. I would welcome him

821
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Speaker 1: with open arms.

822
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: About Kirby Yates because he had He's another guy who

823
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: Age will not catch up to him. It seems like

824
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 2: he had one of the best season of his entire

825
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: career last year. He was phenomenal and the l at

826
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Speaker 2: like one to one and I think he struck out

827
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 2: thirty two to thirty three percent of the batters he faced.

828
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Speaker 1: He was crazy good. Age was legit one of the

829
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: best relievers in baseball last year. Like you can't luck

830
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Speaker 1: your way into a one one seven yard in a

831
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Speaker 1: zero and where's the whip Aaron Little But yeah, a

832
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Speaker 1: zero point eight three whip but not in the ninth

833
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Speaker 1: inning against hitters from both sides play like and Loop

834
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Speaker 1: was one of the last like fake lefty good relievers.

835
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Speaker 1: But Kirbyates was sinsational last year. I saw lands Prestowski

836
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: do a breakdown of him on the WGN the Cubs Network,

837
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: where it's just talking about how he was much more

838
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: precise with his fastball command this past year. He stopped

839
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: trying to let the fastball kind of beat guys. Was

840
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: just kind of like, I have to, I have to

841
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: put this thing on the black. He was able to

842
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: do that really well. Then the splither playing off, it

843
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: was still an incredible pitch. I just think Herbiates kind

844
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: of priss himself out of the Mets. I think Hekurbates

845
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: was so good last year, even though despite the fact

846
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: that he's thirty seven years old, like he probably should

847
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: get the multi year deal to be a closer. He

848
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: was just one of most vable closing in baseball. Like that's

849
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: probably just not one that the Mets will be in on.

850
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: But if he once signed a two year deal for

851
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: not that much money and not be a closer, like sure,

852
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: that works for me. But I just don't know if

853
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's in the Mets price range anymore. Yeah, no,

854
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: that makes sense. I mean he should be a closer

855
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: on a competitive team. He shouldn't. He's he's fucking good,

856
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: legitimately good. Shit, Like he's great. What else? Who else

857
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: were you thinking of? That?

858
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: It could be a big name here, Okay, I go

859
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: one for you, Lefty market aj Minter. I know he

860
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: I think he's got Tommy John right so I think

861
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: is he gonna be done for the year? Is that

862
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: one of those right now?

863
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: I thought Mintor was one that I was gonna put

864
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: his name on the list and you were gonna scream

865
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: at me for well.

866
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 2: But I'm the reason I don't scream is because, like

867
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: we know, the stuff that Mintor has is good. The

868
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: problem with him, and it's always been the problem with him,

869
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: he seems like he's a head case. New York might

870
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: not be a good place for him because he like

871
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: he had some moments where he was going through it

872
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 2: and he couldn't get out, like he was mentally out

873
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: of He's talked about how mentally there were hardships for him.

874
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 2: So I don't know if New York's a good mix.

875
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: There sure blso maybe we just give him some actual

876
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: good like you know, pitching, foundation, pitting some people around him.

877
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: But Mincer didn't have an elbow injuries last year was

878
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: a hip thing and not so again, I don't know

879
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: the status on that. It seems like he probably still

880
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: wants to go back to the Braves, but as a

881
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: left year with that color, like I'll never say no.

882
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: The AJ Minter AJ Mincher's good. Jose Leclerk, I won't

883
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: quit right, theres too much gas. Like jose the Clerk

884
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: has one monster season in him. I don't know where

885
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: it's gonna be. An Ellen Wentz gonna happen, but there's

886
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: one legit season jose La Clerk. It's going to come

887
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: in the future again. I don't know where, I don't

888
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: know how, I don't know why, but it's gonna happen.

889
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: Now.

890
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that.

891
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 2: He's someone who, like I feel like Mets fans to

892
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: go back like three four years like jose Leclerk man, like,

893
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 2: is this gonna be our Starling Marte? Like we finally

894
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 2: got him. It just might be maybe a little bit

895
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: too late. Okay, last guy, big name here, future Hall

896
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: of Famer Craig Kimberl. Do you even want to touch

897
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 2: him with a ten foot pall because I do not.

898
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: I don't really think so either. Like, I know, the

899
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: curveball is still amazing, but last year his fastball Phlosophy

900
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: fell to blow. The gaverage was about ninety three miles

901
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: an hour even to take below at times like if

902
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: he can't sit ninety four to ninety five, I don't

903
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: know that his because command is terrible. It's never been good,

904
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: but he's just stuff was so good. The command never

905
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: really mattered. Now the fact that he might actually have

906
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: to place that fastball and I still don't know if

907
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: he can or if he even really wants to, Like,

908
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: that could just be Yeah, that could be one that

909
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: just might be a disaster. If the Mets did sign

910
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: Kraig Kimball from like one year three million, I don't

911
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: think I'd be pissed. Yeah, I think I would also

912
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: really need to They would really need to have a

913
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: plan for him. And well, this is the relieve episode.

914
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: Give us some of your crazy names now, all right,

915
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: I mean crazy names here. I like Austin both alive.

916
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: He is gotta coll this sweeper in a curve Like

917
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: that's just a gross onum, but he'll be free. He

918
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: I think he's decent. Danny Collom. I think he's got

919
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: three little fastballs, Hulum. We know the Mets love that

920
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: he's got the sweeper in the curve. Just I left

921
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: you with the out loud of junk. I mentioned Tim

922
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: Hill before Tim Hill's fun. A lot of Mets fans

923
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: are talking about Scott Barlow Scott Barlow. Fastball fully fell

924
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: apart last year. It felt like barely ninety ninety one

925
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: miles an hour, and it didn't know that. And he's

926
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: he has two good breakers, but he's basically like the

927
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: exact thing thing is Film made Time. In my mind

928
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: at this point, like those those two are the same.

929
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: I see one, I see ball. So if you if

930
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: you like one album, I'm down if you like both.

931
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: If you don't like Maytime, I don't know how he

932
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: can like borlw Up besides the name. But Dylan Tate's

933
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: falling off really hard too with the stuff. The Sinkers

934
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: might not be there anymore for him. I like John

935
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: Breby the trade deadline. He's got a lot of zip

936
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: on that fastball. I think I think there's a chance

937
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: for like one million dollars, like he could be worthwhile.

938
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: Tommy Kinley, I don't know, like it's cool. I know

939
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: he loves being Yankee, but yeah, he wants to stay

940
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: in New York. He's an interesting one where I have

941
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: been in Discord Calls Late at Night with Tommy Kinlee. Weirdly,

942
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: he's a huge fan of one of my friends Bengal,

943
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: so like he would just like kind of get hammered

944
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: and then enjoy a discord call and talk to us,

945
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 1: which is kind of funny. He's a great dude.

946
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: I just think he loves playing for the Yankees too much,

947
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 2: where like I think he's like, I only want to

948
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: play for the Yankees and Dodgers the rest of my career.

949
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: Maybe the Mets like to be fair.

950
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 2: When these conversations happened, the Mets were a lot different

951
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 2: than the Mets are now and perceived and the roster

952
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 2: and the quality of players. So maybe Tommy Cayley could

953
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: be interested. He's really good. I'd love him on the team.

954
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 2: It'd be great.

955
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: Probably get Tommy Kinley on the podcast, because he's he's

956
00:34:58,640 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: a nice dude. He's very friendly.

957
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 2: But I just don't see him leaving the Yankees, and

958
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 2: I don't know why the Yankees wouldn't bring him back.

959
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: He's not gonna cost anything. Would also just be cool

960
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: to fat if we could make him throw a second pitch.

961
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: I think a second pitch for a time he can

962
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,959
Speaker 1: would be amazing. Not just what you throw five straight

963
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 1: change up last year or something in the World Series.

964
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: I think it was thirty five straight changes. So if

965
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: that could happen another guy. This one is really gross.

966
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: Shelby Miller has kind of gotten some stuff back as

967
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: reliever over the last few years. His whip last year

968
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: was under one, but his e RA was over four

969
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: and a half, which is a weird thing. That, Yeah,

970
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: that tells me. Yeah, it's a strange thing that he

971
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: doesn't really walk anybody. But there's lot of balls in

972
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: playing like so he throws. He's really developed a good fastball.

973
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: It was decent iv B so I think a lot

974
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: of it just got hit hard. So he played to

975
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: a bad babbit, which he should have played too bad

976
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: bab if he deserved a bad babbit. He actually had

977
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: a low babit. Why was his whip so? Did he

978
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 1: think he was that many home runs either? What We're

979
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: just no, His left on base pray was so far

980
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: blow league average, So I think there might be like

981
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: a smitge of upside in Shelby Miller, just where the

982
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: fastball has some good hop on it. Lucas Sims his

983
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: sweeper used to be like the best pitch in the league.

984
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: I think there's you could still probably just probably some

985
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: fruit in those loins. You could do that out at

986
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: Joe Kelly still throws in the upper nineties. Like I know,

987
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: he's kind of a head case. He's don't think I'm

988
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: ever gonna leave La so Or that's something He's either.

989
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 2: Gonna be Dodgers or Red Sox. I think those are

990
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 2: the only two places he wants to play.

991
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: And you know, respect to him for that. Yeah, people

992
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: have to have standards these days. But uh, Kyle Finigan,

993
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: he's got nine inexperience. This stuff is not very good.

994
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: But I think he's someone that can easily be like

995
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: as good as Garrett Daniel Nuniyez for probably less than

996
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: ten million dollars for one year. A lot of people

997
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: are talking about James Karen Jack. I don't have much

998
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: faith in him after the sticky stuff from Stuff Fro

999
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: a few years ago.

1000
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: The grease, the grease on the back of his hair,

1001
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: after every pitcher you take off his hat and put

1002
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 2: his hands through his hair, and then all of a

1003
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: sudden he had record breaking spin rates. I mean we

1004
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 2: he the Guardians have not used him since the sickie

1005
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 2: stuff has disappeared. I think we know what the entire

1006
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 2: catalyst was for James Karen Jack's career.

1007
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: Sure, but also there is the stuff still isn't bad.

1008
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: Even without the siky stuff's definitely not as good. He

1009
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: still as ninety five mile in our fastball has good

1010
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: hop on it. Sure this probably is something in James kerenchack,

1011
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: but I think also seems to be a bit of

1012
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: a head case as well. So I don't know if he's.

1013
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: A major, Like I'm not listening to any of the

1014
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: COVID rules, right and I'm gonna just do whatever the

1015
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 2: fuck I want. Yeah, And it seems like also he's

1016
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 2: just he kind of really fell out of fell out

1017
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 2: of faith with that, like Cleveland team.

1018
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: Who has great pitching development I always have. So I

1019
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 1: think again, we just dropped what like twenty ish names

1020
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: on you guys pitchers where even currently for agents and

1021
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: there's still at least three or four guys. But I

1022
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: think Cold easily be like legit pieces of the back

1023
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: end of the Mets bullpen. Another handful of guys think

1024
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: it easily mix in well in the Mets middle relief

1025
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: this season, oh one hundred percent.

1026
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: And then if you look at the trade market, the

1027
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: trade market's not as robust on the reliever side. It's

1028
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: hard to think about trading for relievers before the season starts,

1029
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: you kind of have to look at roster crunches, guys

1030
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 2: who are out of options, and guys that are on

1031
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: bad teams with expiring contracts that maybe want to cash

1032
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 2: in some big names that you might know. And I'm

1033
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: gonna say big names in really big quotation marks big

1034
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 2: names here. Pe Fairbanks is a big name, to be

1035
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 2: fair He's a really good closer World Series experience. He

1036
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: has a team option, so he's expiring, but not really

1037
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: but that team option I'm sure the Rays would not

1038
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: like to have to accept and then trade. I think

1039
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 2: that he's probably on the move at some point this year,

1040
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: probably closer to the trade deadline. Emilio Pagan is a

1041
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: name that I think a lot of Mets fans know.

1042
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 2: I think Mets fans want him in years past. He's

1043
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 2: got eight million dollars due from Cincinnai Reds this year

1044
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 2: in the bullpen, and I just don't think the Reds

1045
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 2: like that. Eight million dollars could go towards a couple

1046
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 2: more players for them that I think would be more

1047
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: useful than Emilia Pagan, who's a middling reliever for.

1048
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 1: Them for sure, and Pagan this year dealt with tricep

1049
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: injuries and a lot of injury that knocked out most

1050
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: of his season, but he was still really the stuff

1051
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: was still I'm not gonna say it was effective because

1052
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: the IRA and the whipper high but pitch since yeah,

1053
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. His stuff was really really good

1054
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: and he was pitching it's still a plus fastball. He

1055
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 1: has a splil there and he has a color like

1056
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: He's a guy who I think profiles well for what

1057
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: the Mets want as a arriety, who would have relatively platuent, neutral.

1058
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 2: Splits, someone that I think could be in like the

1059
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 2: Mayton Stanic category of like these just again middling relievers

1060
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: that aren't going to be your main guys getting big outs.

1061
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 2: Dennis Santana, former New York Met I've we gotta if

1062
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 2: you look at this guy's baseball with Savan Page last year,

1063
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: a lot of good red, a lot of good red.

1064
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 2: He is under control until twenty twenty seven. On the Pirates,

1065
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 2: Pirates are weird. You don't really have a clue of

1066
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 2: what they're doing. It seems like they're okay with figuring

1067
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 2: it out and hoping, just hoping that maybe the season

1068
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: goes well. Because they're not really trying to win, it

1069
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: seems like, but they're also not trying to lose.

1070
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 1: It's a confusing state.

1071
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: Maybe they cash it on Dennis Santana on a bullpen

1072
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 2: that's full of a lot of young arms and he

1073
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: has no options. And then the most interesting one of

1074
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: the two here, I think is the Padres because they

1075
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: have a glutton or they have a gluttony.

1076
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: Gluttony is that right?

1077
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 2: Glutton This is like you're you like to indulge yourself.

1078
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: They got a lot a glut, a glut, just a glut. Yeah,

1079
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: I think that's the glut.

1080
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: That's that's me. I don't know how to say words.

1081
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 2: They got a glut of left handed relievers and two

1082
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: of them are out of options and are due quite

1083
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 2: a bit of money. Wandi Peralta, Yuki Matsui, which I mean,

1084
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 2: I think we probably for the younger guy in Yuki Matsui,

1085
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 2: but I think both those guys should be available for

1086
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: this Padres.

1087
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: Team was trying to shed some money. Ironically, I was

1088
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: hiding both of these guys going into last season, Yuki

1089
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: coming over from the MPB and Wanse Magic Wandi leaving

1090
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: the Yankees. Yuki just has a great mix of a

1091
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: good fastball split there in a tight slide or with

1092
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: sweeper he throws off it. Like the guy just has

1093
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: a lot of weapons that he can use. I think

1094
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: he's a very good reliever. He didn't have the best

1095
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: results at times last year with the padres, but the

1096
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: stuff it doesn't I'm not gonna tell you jumps off

1097
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: the page, but it's really fucking good. It just doesn't

1098
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: seem that good because only ninety two mile and hour fastball.

1099
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 1: It's kind of a it's very similar to the shout

1100
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: that Yu minago as a reliever, which I think is

1101
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: kind of funny. But I think that profile will very

1102
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: much work in short stints. But he's also he's five

1103
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: EIGHTU Like, he has such a weird, low slow fastball

1104
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: that gets really good rise even with terrible extension on it.

1105
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: He's a very interesting pitcher and Magic Wandi's just kind

1106
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: of he's like one of the weird just guy. Yeah,

1107
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: he's just kind of a weird lefty who like it's

1108
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: hard to explain really why Wandy Pelto always gets out

1109
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: of the jams, but he always winds up getting out

1110
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: of jams because he's the magic Wandy.

1111
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 2: Yes, and then I'll name some guys that I put

1112
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: in the tier of controllable from dumb teams. Your boy,

1113
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: Calvin Fauche. I don't really I got nothing on, but

1114
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 2: you like him. I mean secret sweeper. He's the guy

1115
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 2: who just a lot of off contact keeps the ball

1116
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: in the yard. Dude, I'm all about this, yere Seth Halverson.

1117
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 2: I don't think there's a world where the Rockies trade

1118
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: any of these relievers that I mentioned, because they're the Rockies.

1119
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 2: And again, this is controllable from dumb teams, one of

1120
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: the dumbest organizations in sport shorts. Seth Halverson is this

1121
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 2: dude who pitched like twelve innings last year, throws one

1122
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 2: hundred with a four seam and a sinker and has nasty,

1123
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 2: nasty stuff his like this. I think it's splitter or slider.

1124
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 2: I don't remember what the third pitches exactly, but he

1125
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: put up some crazy numbers that like not many relievers

1126
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 2: can compare. To keep an eye for Seth Haalvererson. Even

1127
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: if you're just like baseball Victor Vodnick Justin Lawrence, I'll

1128
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 2: never give up on Justin Lawrence.

1129
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 1: He's destined to be a met one.

1130
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 2: Day, just such as yeah, and Vodnik we saw in

1131
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 2: Arizona fall leak.

1132
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was that? Sully Mattias? Was that the guy too? That? Yeah,

1133
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: Victor Rodinks was a brace prospect the time. He kind

1134
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: of jumped into the Rockies closer role last year and

1135
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: actually pitched as well as any Rockies closer basically could

1136
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: ever pitch. He gassed up to one hundred one miles.

1137
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: Now he's disgusting.

1138
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: And then the last name I'll mentioned a name I

1139
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: legitimately really hadn't heard of. But just looking at guys

1140
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 2: who have got a year or two left of control,

1141
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 2: are cheap and on bad teams. Justin Anderson of Chicago

1142
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 2: White Sox throws in the mid nineties, had a slider

1143
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: with a forty one rate last year on the White Sox.

1144
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: I think that's an interesting player, and he has control.

1145
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 2: Until twenty twenty seventies in his thirties, the White Sox

1146
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: are not competing. That feels like someone that you could

1147
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: maybe give like a more high upside, low floor prospect

1148
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 2: to the White Sox for and have a reliever, could

1149
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: be a part of this bullpen for a couple of seasons.

1150
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean last year they traded the Tanner Banks to

1151
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: the trade deadline to the Phillies. If I'm not mistaken,

1152
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:19,959
Speaker 1: I thought that was a weird thing because Banks also,

1153
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: I think was a left to who was decent, had

1154
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: good stuff, but just right was left in there also.

1155
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: I mean it was I think in a fouchet. Now

1156
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: Flochet is ready too, Also I misspoke. Fochet's got the

1157
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: color and the and the curve ball with a wild

1158
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: sinker and some sweepers. But I mean there's just simply

1159
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: the thing that we want to get out of this

1160
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: episode fore you guys, is there are a lot of

1161
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: potentially available relievers in Major League Baseball, and it's hard

1162
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: to really be able to grasp who all of these

1163
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: guys are and how good they could possibly be and

1164
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: if they're even available, because I think that comes into

1165
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 1: question to a lot of these guys. But there's just

1166
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: there's just tons of options, and we could be rest

1167
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: assured that David Stearns is will not leave one single

1168
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: stone unturned and trying to build the best possible bullpen

1169
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: for this team before September. One thing we haven't talked

1170
00:42:58,960 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 1: about too.

1171
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: The Mets have a bunch of his starting pitchers that

1172
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 2: could be some decent relievers as well this year. And

1173
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: I will never and I don't think you will either

1174
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: give up on the idea. What is it, James, Who

1175
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 2: do I think should become a reliever? And I think

1176
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: would be nasty.

1177
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: Tyler McGill and Tyler McGill one hour. I feel like

1178
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: he could be one of the best relievers in baseball.

1179
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: I'm not even fucking round.

1180
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 2: Like we saw what his brother did. Tyler McGill put

1181
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: him in a role where he just goes balls to

1182
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 2: the wall one inning every couple of days. He's probably

1183
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 2: throwing ninety seven ninety eight miles an hour. It feels

1184
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: like that is the home for him at the end

1185
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 2: of all this where it's just like, dude, do you

1186
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: want to be a guy who's fighting to be the

1187
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 2: sixth starter every single year on a major league team?

1188
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: Or do you want to lock up being a dominant reliever?

1189
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 2: And I think Tyler McGill could be that. I also

1190
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,479
Speaker 2: think we've seen David Sertons teams do this in the past.

1191
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 2: They did with Corton Burns, Brandon Woodriff and all those

1192
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 2: runs that they had. Brandon Sproke could come out of

1193
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 2: the bullpen at some point this year. Play Tidwell could

1194
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: come out of the bullpen at some point. Dom Hammill,

1195
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 2: I think, is another name that could come out of

1196
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 2: the bullpen. Like there are guys that definitely could be

1197
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 2: relief pitch options at some point for this Mets team

1198
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 2: come up, make a couple spots. Nolan MacLean has a

1199
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 2: great year. I think there's a world you could see

1200
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 2: him come up as a reliever at some point. Like

1201
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 2: there this is a way for them to get their innings,

1202
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 2: but not stunt their growth by just sitting around and

1203
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 2: getting shelled because they're not ready to be starters yet.

1204
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: I'm very confident that if Christian Skoyle was healthy then

1205
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: the last year he would have been coming out of

1206
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: the bullpen down the stretch September and October. I think

1207
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: that would be something that happens. I think if Brand's brote,

1208
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: I mean like it's gonna be a weird way. The

1209
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: phrase is, if he's not good enough to cement himself

1210
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: in the rotation this summer, there's a really good chance

1211
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: he's good enough to cement himself in the bullpen this summer.

1212
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 2: And that doesn't mean he's gonna be a reliever moving forward.

1213
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 2: This is just for sure. You kind of handle these guys.

1214
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 1: It's kind of how you start, especially a guy like Sprote,

1215
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: who we know has such good off speed pitches and

1216
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: that fastball can get dialed up into the triple digits

1217
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: if he's pitching in one two winnings at a time.

1218
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 1: I was think McGill's a weird spot with a service

1219
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: time where he's he has three more years of a

1220
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: control for the Mets. There's there's a point where you

1221
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: can kind of get yourself the most valuable possible when

1222
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: you transition to being reliever as close as free agency

1223
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: as possible, where if like Calami pre agent two years

1224
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: with three years of being at one of the most

1225
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: dominant relievers in baseball in his belt, some people be like,

1226
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: oh damn, let's go there. And also the one guy

1227
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 1: we don't want to mention him because we're very confident

1228
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: his ability as a starter, but it's always possible Clay

1229
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: Holmes could easily wind up slotting yes, the eh any

1230
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: guy like if the starting thing doesn't work out, we

1231
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: think it's going to work out. Really, I think it's

1232
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: a love of upside onto, but of course there's a

1233
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: chance it doesn't by the middle of June July, Clayholmes

1234
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: could be one of the best settlement in baseball, very literally.

1235
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's another thing, like, yeah, it's the contract.

1236
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 2: Would be great as a starting pitcher and be really

1237
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 2: good as a reliever.

1238
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: It'd be fine. It is really wouldn't be really good.

1239
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: It'd be good enough. Yeah, that's it's good. It's good enough. Yeah,

1240
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: we win one more trade. We got money and one

1241
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: more trade. Guy to mention, I think the Astro is

1242
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: going to really try and dun Brian Presley. They just

1243
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: pay too many relievers, too much money. At this point,

1244
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: you put down they can We know they can really

1245
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: use an outfielder and Starling Marte we've heard is available.

1246
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: So if you've Dana Brown's listened to this, I know

1247
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: he probably is. Pick up the phone called David Stern

1248
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: is trying to make a deal.

1249
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 2: David Searns, we know is listening. Maybe maybe you called

1250
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 2: Dana Brown first and just float the think about bart

1251
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 2: Day Presley interested. I think that's a good deal.

1252
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: I think Ryan Pressley could really use a change of

1253
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: sceneor right now after a bad season and he's still

1254
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: like Truthully think would be one of the best relievers

1255
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: in baseball. I'd take that.

1256
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 2: I'd sign up for that anything else here on the

1257
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 2: reliever market. That's how we're gonna wrap it up.

1258
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: I think we're good.

1259
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 2: Also, shout out the Mets and Steve Cohen and David Stearns.

1260
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: Nobody in arbitration. I think this year again, which is huge.

1261
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody is amazing. I went back and looked at it.

1262
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 1: Since Steve Cohen took over the team, we have settled

1263
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: with forty six or forty eight arbitration eligible players. The

1264
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 1: two guys we did not settle with. One was Phil Bickford,

1265
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: who was off the team months later. The other one

1266
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: was JD. Davis, who we settled within the next year.

1267
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: So we were good.

1268
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,240
Speaker 2: And if you guys don't know the importance of arbitration

1269
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 2: player relationships, foul Territory did an episode and they had

1270
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 2: Delan Betantas on and he talked about how ugly arbitration

1271
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 2: got with the Yankees and it really left a bad

1272
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 2: taste in his mouth.

1273
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 1: This stuff matters.

1274
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 2: These guys are human beings at the end of the day,

1275
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 2: and when a billion dollar organization is fighting over what

1276
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 2: are pennies essentially to these billionaire owners.

1277
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: Is not a good look, ever, No, and I wanted

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Speaker 1: a lot of people took my tweet this jumped in

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Speaker 1: said the Wilpon's are also really good this too, so tipped

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Speaker 1: the cap of the wolfponsage for doing one good thing there.

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Speaker 1: But that was just crazy. People were fighting for them.

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Speaker 1: That's insane. People people just mentioning it. I guess people

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Speaker 1: just like to be like, well, well, actually on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: but before we send you guys out too, we have

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Speaker 1: another message from Frankie Peppers and oh yea Frankie Pepper's

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Speaker 1: all right, we got Frankie this one all right, let

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Speaker 1: me hear a little frank.

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Speaker 3: Gentlemen, this is Frankie Peppist. How you don't gotta say, James,

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Speaker 3: I was pretty on the money with that, with that

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Speaker 3: pin a Lonzo contract. Last time. I was listening over

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Speaker 3: some dinner and I heard you drop what you thought

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Speaker 3: Pete would be getting a free agency. And I said

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Speaker 3: to myself, oh, that's what I That's what I said.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna like that. And turned out you liked that,

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Speaker 3: So that's all well, And but I hope the new

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Speaker 3: year is kicking off well for you boys. I hope

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Speaker 3: you liked my bold predictions. I think I'll try and

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Speaker 3: make more sometimes, but sometimes I can't be too bold

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Speaker 3: about things. Sometimes I gotta let things, you know, just

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Speaker 3: sort of play out as as they should. I've taken

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Speaker 3: a little break from ball and yet's my doctor said

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Speaker 3: that maybe I shouldn't be having it every day. So

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Speaker 3: if Peter Lorenso doesn't sign it in the next two days,

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Speaker 3: I might. I might make some more, just just try and,

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Speaker 3: like Chimney up some support for it. But right now

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Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm making like this, like this spiced chicken

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Speaker 3: for salad tonight instead more heart healthy.

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Speaker 1: But I hope you boys are having a good New Year.

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Speaker 1: I'll talk to you soon. I appreciate it. Take care boys,

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Speaker 1: New Year, New Frankie.

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Speaker 2: We love that bringing the heat as always literally bringing

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Speaker 2: the heat and bringing the heat with the spicy chicken

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Speaker 2: for the salad. That's it for this episode, guys, Thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for listening and watching. Make sure you

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Speaker 2: follow us on all our social media at mets up

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Speaker 2: on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok. Subscribe to the mets up

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Speaker 2: podcast YouTube channel. If you want to see the video

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Speaker 2: version of this and if you're listening to us on

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Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google, wherever you get your podcasts, you

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Speaker 2: can find us. Make sure you download, subscribe, drop this review,

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Speaker 2: give us a rating as well.

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Speaker 1: You can follow James on Twitter ap James Underscore Shadow and.

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Speaker 2: I'm Draftnick Mark with the C. Thank you all for

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Speaker 2: listening and watching Happy New Year again. In case this

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Speaker 2: is the first one you're watching The New Year, Happy

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Speaker 2: New Year.

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Speaker 1: You can't do it anymore. It's too late now we're

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Speaker 1: going two weeks. It's over. That's it. Don't say it again,

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Speaker 1: and let's fucking go Mets.

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Speaker 4: Let's walk and go Met, See you guys next time.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for listening

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Speaker 1: And that the s