WEBVTT - Star-Struck Victims w/ Craig Bierko 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:04.160 Of the law and Order franchises. SVU is considered especially watchable. 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:06.960 We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:10.400 vicious felonies. These episodes are based on. These are our stories. 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:30.760 Done done, Hello, and welcome to Thats messed up. 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:32.600 But I'm one of your hosts. 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:35.840 Kara Klank and I'm Liza Traeger, and we're coming from 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:39.080 you live from the East Coast, both of us, Yes, 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:39.839 we're both on. 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:40.519 The East Coast. 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:43.560 I just got here just the day after the fourth 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:46.600 and the power was out for two days. Oh my god. 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:48.400 Wait we talked us to you True Crime. We have 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:53.360 celeb guests. Okay, yes, I'm sorry. It was like I had. 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:55.240 We had such a great like cross country check. 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:56.880 Now what room are you in? Are you your brother? 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:57.520 What is that? 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:01.400 I'm at my mom's Okay, okay, my mom's and like, 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:04.959 such a good trip, barely any snaffoos. Only pulled over 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:06.800 by the cops one time and I got a warning, 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:07.399 not a. 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:09.840 Ticket, that you do and huh, what'd you do? 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:12.800 I was doing forty two and a thirty, but I 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:15.080 had just come off the highway and I was like 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:17.520 the highway seventy five. You guys like you can't make 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:19.720 us go from seventy five to thirty When we first 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:23.520 get off, like it feels like you're like jogging alongside. 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:24.040 It, like it's too slow. 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:27.000 But anyway, the guy was like gave me a warning, 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:29.959 which I was like, thank you, but no problems at all. 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:31.760 And then I guess my mom's house powers out for 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:34.840 two fucking full days. Camp gets canceled. 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:37.199 Noah, the first day I'm supposed to have the kids 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:39.800 away from me in three and a half fucking weeks 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:40.960 and their camp gets canceled. 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:42.440 And I'm like, oh, I don't even know what to 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:46.200 do because of the power, yes, yes, and what's the 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:50.400 power because it's so high and all the electricity. Well no, 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:52.280 there was a huge storm on the fourth of July 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:54.559 and like it knocked all these trees into power lines. 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:57.800 And then like they're at this farm camp, which like 0:01:58.200 --> 0:01:58.559 you know. 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:01.760 It it has it has covered structures, but like they 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:05.600 were too worried that Monday was gonna like lightning or something. Anyway, 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:08.919 it was it's today's my first day now without my children. 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:11.200 These are my first like two hours without my children 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:13.840 in three and a half weeks, and I'm just so 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:17.079 thrilled to be here, so thrilled. I'm so happy. I 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:19.840 feel like I feel like I have wings. I mean, 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:21.280 I love them, but this is like a lot of 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:25.040 un stopped time with them. And know we're back to 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:30.680 normal with them going to camp and such. But yeah, 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:33.320 it's been How was your fourth How was well? 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:36.880 I just said, I have huge news. What what listen? 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:40.480 I the fact that Taylor Swift had someone at her 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.320 wedding that owns ice detention centers. 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:45.000 I'm done. I'm out. 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.320 I covered my sticker on my phone. I'm giving away 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:48.360 everything and I'm not. 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:53.000 I'm done. I'm done. Wow, I was wondering how you were. 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:53.600 I'm not. 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:57.400 That's my hardline. I've I don't care. I'm done. So 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.000 I don't know what I'm gonna listen to. I guess 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:01.440 just the instrumentals from heated rivalry. Like, I don't know 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:04.880 what I'm gonna do, but I have to take all 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.360 of everything away. I'm still gonna make bracelets. She doesn't 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:13.240 own beads, but like, yeah, I'm done. Oh that's tough. 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:17.000 I mean, I gotta say, like, the whole wedding to 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:18.480 me just seemed like, ugh. 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:20.520 I was fine with the wedding, and a part of 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:23.080 me thought she invited so many people to show Blake Lively, like, 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:24.640 this is how little you mean to me? I have 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.200 the woman that just created the summer. I turned pretty 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:29.520 here and you're not invited. So in my head, I'm like, yeah, 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:30.519 invite it, like George. 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:32.920 Stevenopolis is here and you're not invited yet, Like there 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:35.400 was like the list was so random. 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:38.880 I mean, I still like support. I liked the wedding. 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:41.600 I got it, I understood it, I felt it. I 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:44.600 was happy people were messaging me. And then I also 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:49.200 clocked it because Marishka on the Broadway calendar, she had 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:52.320 Friday the third off, and so I knew because I 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:55.200 went to see her on Broadway, and so then I 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:57.560 sent it to Michael, who I went with. She's a 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:00.360 big Mrshka person. She is on our Patriot on if 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:03.040 you guys want to listen to fans of s for 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:07.320 you have a good time. But I sent her the 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:10.880 calendar being like, confirmed the wedding's happening, Marishka's taking the 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:12.960 night off, and she wrote, Lol, what wedding. 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:17.280 And I'm like to be so free, to be so free. 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:22.960 But there's no fucking Travis's bullshit sometimes, you know, like 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:26.760 whatever her her closeness and proximity to Maga's always. 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:27.240 Been an issue to me. 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:29.200 And I don't really care about the environment, Like I 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:30.400 think she should fly private. 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:32.440 She cannot go on Delta. 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:35.839 Sorry, and she's still not even the worst, Like the 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:38.080 flying private is like the least of it. I just 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:41.679 but I was fine with ice detention centers. You're friends 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:45.040 with someone that's who's gonna watch you get married, someone 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:47.200 that owns private prisons for children. 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:50.640 Fuck you, I'm done. This is no longer a Taylor 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.560 Swift podcast. Wow wow. 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.919 I mean I also thought, like the msg of it 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:01.320 all seemed like it just seemed like like causing traffic 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:02.440 and all of this bulls. 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:06.240 That's in a huge city tailor. She loves New York. 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:08.320 I was fine with the wedding, like it made sense 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:10.000 to me. It's like, you want a ton of people, 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.160 You're probably gonna spend twenty to fifty million. It's gonna 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:15.960 look nice, security everyone's taking care of Like, I got 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:17.040 I understood it. 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:17.720 I got it. 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:20.839 I'd be interested to see how the inside looked, like 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:23.800 how did you drape all of Madison Square Garden? Like 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:26.040 so that you weren't walking by a concession stand at 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:28.920 some point, you know what I mean, Like I really 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:30.960 am interested in what the interior looked. 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:32.479 Like, but I also think it was probably just the 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:34.960 first floor, you know what I mean, Like I don't 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:37.200 know if you were like up and around. 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:42.080 But yeah, the guest list, it just kept more people 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:43.640 coming out of the wood. 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:46.320 But she said that on Ramnoren she was just like, listen, 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:48.640 I'm not going to cut anyone. She's like, what's stressful 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:51.080 about weddings is making lists, and like I'm not going 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:51.560 to do it. 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:54.680 She goes after cut, she cut one big person. 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:59.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah, interesting, Okay, Well what did you do? 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:00.680 Over the fourth? 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:02.200 I don't know. 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:04.040 I'm not gonna survive. I don't know what I'm gonna 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:06.640 do this. I don't know what's gonna happen. I don't know. 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:09.440 I don't know how I'm gonna live anymore. And see 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:11.160 last night I was like, I'm gonna do a casual. 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:13.760 I'm gonna do casual, stayed ounseil three thirty in the 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:16.240 morning playing darts. 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:17.920 I will Okay, So. 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:20.479 What I do On the third, I wanted to watch 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:25.120 Cobo verde Argentina and everyone ditched me. I was texting. 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:27.760 If anyone saw how desperate my text were, I'd be humiliated. No, 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:29.479 I could find no one to hang out with me. 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:33.280 So I went to a new bar in my neighborhood 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:35.600 that I was wanted to try, brought a book, got 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:38.479 a seat, started watching, and then I was bribing people 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:40.520 in the neighborhood to meet me. So I had Emma 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:43.320 Willman stop Alex English, you know. So I got people 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:45.520 to meet me, and then I ended up running into 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:48.520 people I knew, and then it ended up being like amazing. 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:50.840 I had shrimp cocktails, someone had a backgammon set in 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:54.120 their purse, played backgammon at the bar, and watched soccer 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:56.360 and it was like I gotta be ridible. Oh yeah, 0:06:56.560 --> 0:07:01.520 and it was incredible. And then on the fourth yeah, 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:05.720 friends in town. I went to the Rockways. Actually I 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:06.800 hung out. 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:10.640 With the person from who what weekly or whatever, Lindsay. No, 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:13.400 I was weekly. I was with Lindsay at the beach. 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:18.080 But I didn't know Jake Cornell, of course, the most 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:20.480 popular sexy man in the world, like, okay, like the 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:22.880 hottest person ever. People always like, what's your type? I'm 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:24.400 like Jake Cornell, I don't know. I don't know what 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:24.760 to tell you. 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:27.720 She I've told Alison this before, but she gives me 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:30.480 Allison livey vibes like in a way, and I was, 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:35.880 I don't know, she's she's more friendly than everyone Elise 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:37.960 on the podcast. 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:41.560 No, she but it didn't clock for me. Like we 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:43.000 were all at the beach was a big group. I 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:46.119 didn't know that many people. We saw some sharks, doll fins, 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:50.640 but yeah, beach beach all day. So then someone had 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.400 a bungalow near the beach, and so I got to 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:57.680 take a cold shower, an outdoor cold shower after life. 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:03.200 Doors shower is the fucking one of life's great pleasures. 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:04.000 I love them so much. 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:05.960 Yeah, I don't do it enough because I'm kind of dirty, 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:07.760 so I usually I don't care to shop. 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:09.559 And you're going to find in New York City city 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:10.120 that much, you know. 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:11.920 I feel like I think about door showers as like 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:14.760 on Cape Cod or like you know, at beach Towns 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:17.640 or whatever, like it's so but they're the best. 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:19.560 But then love outdoor showers. 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:22.240 But then I got home quick nap, and then I 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:26.520 was invited to like a gorgeous outdoor backyard dinner and 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:27.840 it was one of the best meals I've ever had 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:29.760 in my life. Wow, one of the best meals I've 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:31.280 ever had in my life. But I was home by midnight, 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:36.439 oh by midnight, And then Sunday I got to It's 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:40.560 an La Mexican spot in my neighborhood, Dodgers Bar, and 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:43.559 I got a seats at three pm and we watched 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:48.360 both soccer games, and you know meelli devastating loss, of course, 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:50.680 but I was there from like three to eleven. 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:57.600 Wait, who did Mexico lose to England? Wow? Crazy? But 0:08:57.640 --> 0:08:58.960 Norway is going to crush them. 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:01.200 But what's going to be so exciting about this Norway 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:06.479 game is like the main Norway guy plays in Manchester, 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.880 so he's gonna be playing against all of his besties. 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:14.320 Ooh, and he's going to crush him. I've heard he's 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:14.920 like the best. 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:17.120 He is the best, but he's also like sweet and silly. 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:19.320 It seems like he's nice to his girlfriend, he doesn't engage, 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:20.120 he's not fighting. 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:20.640 I don't know. 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:23.920 He seems awesome Norway to the max. So now I'm 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:27.600 team Norway. But my whole family obviously cheering for Mexico. 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:32.440 My dad was in a Mexico hat and we were 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:34.640 at the Mexican Bar. Like that's why I got there 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:38.400 so early because it was so fucking packed. 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.760 Wow, so you got good, good seats. And then of 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:43.320 course I stay out till four that night too. 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:47.080 Yeah, I mean, what can I say. It's summer, it's 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:48.280 World Cup, it's New York. 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.600 I don't know. I'm trying to figure out. 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:55.440 As this episode comes out, we will already be in 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.720 past quarterfinals, I feel, so we'll be like we'll really 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.040 know more when this episode comes out, but right now 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:02.600 we only know who survived this. 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:04.520 But I'm trying to go to the beach on Saturday. 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:06.600 Then I have three shows, like I don't know, I'm 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:08.840 gonna do it all, but I need to watch Norway, 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:10.600 so maybe I'll watch it at the rock Way. 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:14.679 I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, Okay, spill. 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:16.840 We only have a few more weeks of this being 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:23.760 my personality, so I gotta get the most spill on 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:26.800 Marishka in every brilliant thing I saw. She had her 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:31.400 last show I didn't get to go. So she is incredible. 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:34.400 She's dynamics. She's on stage before the play starts, you know, 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:36.760 because there's a lot of audience participations, like you kind 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:38.280 of see her, so that's really cool. 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:40.240 She looks great, she's awesome. 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:43.000 I don't know if I love the show and I 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:45.560 hate the audience participation. 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:46.880 Oh you do. 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:50.800 I hate it, And it creates a certain advit well, 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:52.839 because people don't know how to project or missing. I'd 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.920 rather her sail the line, right, I don't get it. 0:10:55.920 --> 0:11:01.480 It's also it's a really it's about the play about suicide. Okay, 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:04.800 so every brilliant thing is like all of a list 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:08.360 of stuff that's worth living for and how those things 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:11.400 actually don't help the ones because it's bigger than that, 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:15.880 and like it's just a very poignant show. And before 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:21.040 the last line, it's obviously the end, some bitch had 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:27.240 to heckle. Some bitch screamed out before the final fucking 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:30.560 line of this pretty sad play, like. 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:32.640 What did g L? So basically it's like a list 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:33.000 of stuff. 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:34.920 So it's like all of these things that are worth 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:37.959 living for, and then her the goal of this show 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:39.720 and this character is like she wants to get to 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:42.680 one million, and includes other people and everyone's like listing 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:46.760 these things, and so she goes and one million and 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:47.760 this woman goes. 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:50.320 Meeting Marishka Hargatay. 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:52.880 And then people start clapping, so then Marishka has to 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:59.000 stand and wait and then and then deliver this like line. 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:03.160 Animals and yeah, animals. 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:06.480 People took the phone out during the show taking photos. 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:10.120 I mean, the most untrained theater audience I've ever been 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:15.120 a part of. Yeah, the cool things were that Jalen 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:18.360 Brunson's parents were there and we all went nuts when 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:20.520 we saw them and clapped them, and then they got 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:23.720 and then Marishka brought his mom out for one of 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:25.840 the audience parts and we all went nuts. But like 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:28.599 Dean Winters was there also, I was at ear And 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:34.680 all day watching Austria Spain. Yeah, so I was at one. 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:36.080 Of my favorite with ending. Yeah. 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:38.040 So I was at the bar all day, then went 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:41.760 to see Broadway, then walked forty blocks, did comedy, then 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:45.480 stayed out again till two thirty in the morning. Oh 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:49.400 my lord, I don't know, I don't know, and I 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:50.680 don't really see an end in sight. 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:54.800 Well, the World Cup at least will be wrapping up 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:55.640 in a couple of weeks. 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:58.160 Yeah, before I go to Peetown and Monte Carlo, Like, 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:02.000 what are we talking about I guess maybe maybe September 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.520 after your birthday we could sweak it. Hope we could 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:09.000 pray for a reprieve. I mean, I guess i'ven't been working. 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:11.680 I'm like, something's gotta give, and it's been I would 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:16.760 say my fitness, my fitness because I've been in these streets. 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:19.920 Also, so I'm with Jake Cornell. 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.960 We're like outside, we're in the West Village and I 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:25.160 run into someone I know and he's with his friends 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:27.640 and gay guys and I could tell immediately j K 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:29.120 it's him, Like I could just tell. I'm like, oh, 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:31.520 ja K's's person. I'm like, he's not like a great guy, 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:34.120 but like I'm here for a casual kombo. Topic of 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:37.400 ice cream comes up. We talk Van Luen and Van 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:39.400 Luin now has like self served and I go great, 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:41.400 and then they go or you should try cultured and 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:43.240 I go, I'm not really like waiting in line for 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:44.600 ice cream, like maybe in the winter. 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:45.320 I'll go like I. 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:47.560 Don't give a fuck, and then he goes, well, yeah, 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:49.360 you seem like a carvel person to. 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:53.880 Me, dropping my mic are you kidding? 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:57.040 And Jake went you should go inside now like he 0:13:57.120 --> 0:14:00.000 defended my honor immediately, and I go, can you believe 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:05.200 that it does seem like a carvel person? Yeah, like 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:08.280 a cookie postcake? What the fuck are you talking about? 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:11.160 So I went, well, I'd rather eat candy anyways. And 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:13.360 then we walked inside and Jake was like, I hate 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:13.720 that guy. 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:16.640 I go, well, then he will to tell someone that 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:19.600 they don't seem like an artisanal ice cream person, but 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:25.560 they seem like a chain ice cream like eighties ninety 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.600 like famous for like a whale cake is really like 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.200 not it that icic psychotic? 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:34.080 Yes, sociopathic social behavior? 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:38.000 Wow, Well you were just goes to show you that 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:41.600 your little barometer was right because you knew it from 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:44.320 the jump that this guy sucked, and then he proved it. Yeah, 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:48.000 and if he like people sometimes don't realize that. It's like, 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:50.600 my kindness is what's keeping this together. 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:52.040 Ha ha. 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:56.720 It's like, honey, if you want to play, we can play. Yeah, 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:58.960 this happened to me at the Mexican spot. I go, 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:02.200 it's packed of people in a tiny fucking bar and 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:06.960 I as I'm walking from the bathroom, I hear a 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:10.440 girl go, she stepped on my toe. So in my 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:12.320 head I go, oh, I'm gonna buy this girl a shot. 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:14.080 I was feeling great, you know, so I turn around. 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:16.880 I go, are you okay? She goes, no, you stepped 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:18.320 on my foot. And I go, well, you're in a 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:20.920 packed bar, you dumb bitch, Like you don't know who 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:21.440 you're fucking with. 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:23.040 Like people just do not know. 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:25.080 That's how I felt when I watched Send Help, Like 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:27.400 that was my favorite fucking lesson where it's like you 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:29.800 never fucking know who you're talking to. It's like, I 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:31.520 was gonna buy you a shot. I checked in on you. 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:33.400 You're mad I stepped on your toe. I will throw 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.920 you across this bar. Yeah, people, people do not. I 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:40.200 It's like it's crazy to me. No, It's like when 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:42.520 I spilled a sip of white wine on that woman 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:44.280 at a Paul Simon concert at the Hollywood Bowl. 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:46.560 I got her napkins, I was wiping her up. I 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:48.360 was like, I'm so so sorry. It was literally it's 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:50.200 a white wine and it's a mouthful, like it was 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:52.160 literally not wasn't in my mouth, but I'm. 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:53.000 Just saying it wasn't a lot. 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:55.240 And then I was like, and then after she wouldn't 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:57.440 stop fucking mean mugging me and complaining. I go, I've 0:15:57.440 --> 0:15:59.760 ever been to a concert before, Like this is what 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:01.320 it is, and that's it. 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:03.360 You're you're done, You've spent my good will. Yeah, I 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:05.600 saw a girl complain that the bartender put water. But 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:09.080 it's just like I came steps on your There's four 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:10.360 hundred people here, like. 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:13.360 What are you talk Like what are elbow you in 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:14.480 the goddamn ribs? 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:15.520 Like it's we're a. 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:18.560 And then it's like you stepped on my tone and 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:20.960 it's like yeah, and I asked how you're doing? So, 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.000 like what more do you want from this? You want 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.120 a time travel bitch? Like what are we talking about? 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:28.520 You should leave. I'm gonna go. I'm so sad for 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:28.880 what I did. 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:32.200 I'm leaving, Like what is your goal here? Oh? Meet okay? 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:35.760 I also meet Ball? Who listens? I meet Ball. I 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:36.480 saw your clip. 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:38.560 I saw your clip that people like heat a rivalry 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:40.560 a little too much and we're on Well I heard that, 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.040 and I do take it as a personal attack, and 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:44.600 I do make it. 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:49.800 I saw your clip about the Zoom bachelortte party that 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:50.440 we were both. 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:54.760 At the way I didn't do my hair or makeup 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:57.920 for Nicole byer A Giant Stars podcast, Like. 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:02.840 That was the day? Did the Netflix like poker tournament too? 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:06.640 Like I who's like I got to blow out the 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:08.960 next day? Like it sickens me. 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:12.119 I don't know, but yeah, yeah Zoom, you're usually on 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:13.520 top of the blowouts. 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:17.639 I was just like in l I don't know. Yeah, 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:18.639 I don't know. 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:23.560 Well, I hope everybody had an enjoy enjoyed there. And 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:27.240 if that woman that I stepped on was at all normal, 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:28.400 I'd be like, let's do a shot. 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:31.679 Like it's like you, what is your goal? What is 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:33.000 your actual goal here? 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:33.960 Yeah? 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:36.360 Some people are just miserable. Oh you know, we. 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:39.320 Didn't even talk about empire state of mind engagement? 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:40.719 Wow? 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:42.960 Yeah, what's with those people there? 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:45.520 Russians? I love that we Oh we have backstory, okay, 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:47.960 because I haven't like so they do have a z 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:49.840 I've seen the me I saw the original and then 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:51.520 the memes and I don't know anything about them. 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:54.359 Well they're so hot, so I did find them on 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:57.440 the internet. She has over a million followers, like she's 0:17:57.640 --> 0:17:59.200 she does this and. 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:01.480 So that she's a he's a free climber or like 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:04.560 a prank kind of person climbing climbing it's ok but 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:07.000 I don't think it's free, Like she's cooler than it's 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:09.000 like sexy climbing, I would call it okay. 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:12.159 So her and this guy like they were competitors, Like 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:15.440 she's like, that's my competition in this like climbing universe. 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:17.480 She was like, that's like my enemy. 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:20.320 And then then she was like, wait, he's so hot, 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:23.040 and so they start dating, they start climbing together. She 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:25.879 realized she can trust him, so her whole instagram is 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:28.520 them on cliffs and bridges and all these places and 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:32.120 they're making out on these peaks of like in the cities. 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:33.239 They set this up. 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:34.960 She already had money set aside, so she had her 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:38.000 legal team ready, like they knew they were gonna get 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:38.399 in trouble. 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:40.920 And then people are like, was the engagement planned? 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:42.840 But then someone saw a story was like, no, that's 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:44.600 a Russian girl and you could sell her nails weren't 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:44.960 filled in. 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:47.400 The bitch didn't know she would have had a fresh set. 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:51.480 But then I saw a video from not this climb, 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:54.639 but a different climb, and it's all in Russian, and 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:56.400 it's just like her being like. 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:59.719 Oh my god, they're so hot. Yeah. Yeah, it's like 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:01.040 the thing that's ever happened. 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:05.919 And so so there's like another peak and there's a 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:08.239 video and it's all in Russian, but it's her being like, 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:10.840 these pictures look like shit, why the fuck did we 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:12.520 climb up here if you're not even gonna take one 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:15.320 good picture, not one good frame. And he's like, you're 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:17.560 gonna lose your strength. We have to climb back down, 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:19.800 like stop it, these photos are fine, and she goes, 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:22.680 they're not okay, and we need to take more photos. 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:24.960 So they're like on a click on a tip of 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:28.119 a building, fighting about the quality of the photos he's taken, 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:30.160 and it really warmed my heart. 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:35.400 Like, okay, wait, so I'm looking at her Instagram four 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:37.159 million followers, insane. 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:40.080 But it was one million. Now it's for us. She's 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:40.880 gained a few. 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:42.760 All you have to do is climb the empire, stabolding 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:45.240 and get engaged and you can really pop off your following. 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:50.639 But they have a Netflix yeah, coming literally this week. 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:52.040 Yeah, they're geniuses, I think. 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:55.920 So this was basically promo for the Netflix too, because 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:59.720 I'll be watching Skywalker's a Love Story Netflix to line nineteen. 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:01.600 This is not a paid advertisement. 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:02.000 We're just interested. 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:02.919 Wow. 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:04.800 Oh my god, oh my god. It's like I'm not 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:06.679 even scared of heights, but just watching them do this 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:10.680 is like whoa you know, yeah, like no, no. 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:12.120 They feel really casual. 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:15.360 They feel really like comfortable up in the skies. 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:17.560 And what's gonna happen. They're gonna end up getting like 0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:19.320 a fine right, They're not like gonna go to jails. 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:23.320 Well they have like eight charges, Like so I'm not sure, 0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:26.240 but I mean, well, you know, we'll follow the case. 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:27.879 Yeah. 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:28.080 Oh. 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:31.640 I also saw the clip of Peter Herman being on 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:34.080 Yah like proposing to her in her show. 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:35.320 Yeah, that's part of the audience. 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:36.840 There's like a few scenes where I was like, oh, 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:38.960 the audience participation makes sense, Like I love it, Okay, 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:40.840 I get it. And then but like the shouting, like 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:43.399 I just think, yeah, I just really feel like it 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:46.439 took me out and I don't really like it. I 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:48.399 bought a magnet. I was thrilled to see her. I 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:50.040 had a great time. It was awesome. 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:52.760 And it's like, if you actually do like mrcarcite and 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:55.720 you respect her, you know that she's a Broadway Stan 0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:56.760 loves Broadway. 0:20:56.800 --> 0:20:57.919 This is her Broadway debut. 0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:02.880 She doesn't need you to scream out about her real 0:21:02.920 --> 0:21:06.639 life celebrity during her Broadway show, like that's it's just 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:09.680 so rude. I don't know, everybody thinks they're so funny 0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:10.240 and clever. 0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:13.480 Oh, and goes, that's narcissism, and I got yeah, yeah, 0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:17.120 to scream out in a Broadway show, you are out 0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:19.600 of your mind. But that's what happens when you have 0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:23.840 the whole audience hollering mm hmm. You know it's it 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:25.800 makes no sense, It makes no sense. 0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:27.440 Oh my god. 0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:28.520 Oh yeah, yeah. 0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:32.800 All right, Well, I hope everybody had a nice fourth 0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:36.640 Let's get started right with today's episode. 0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:40.439 Before that, obviously that's messed up. Live dot com. You 0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:43.800 can go to four links to Lisa's touring schedule, links 0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:48.200 to our merch get our Louise Lewis, Lewis Lewis, we 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:50.359 should get a Tommy thing going on for the following. 0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:54.520 I ran into my friend yesterday and he was just like, 0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:55.720 dressed better than normal. 0:21:55.760 --> 0:21:56.520 Did I already say this? 0:21:56.760 --> 0:21:59.120 But like I looked at him and I went, did 0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:08.000 someone send you freak clothes? And he goes, yeah, that's 0:22:08.040 --> 0:22:08.600 really fun. 0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:09.560 I loved it. 0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:13.280 So, as Liza mentioned, very funny comedian Micah Fox and 0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:16.840 her funny boyfriend, comedian Tim McLaughlin are going to be 0:22:16.880 --> 0:22:19.879 our guests on our Patreon episode that just dropped last week. 0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:22.639 And we've never talked to a couple that loves SVU 0:22:22.760 --> 0:22:25.640 together before and we have a really funny conversation with them. 0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:28.000 So but if you're interested in our Patreon, it's patreon 0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:31.840 dot com slash that's messed up and we love talking 0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:35.040 to all the tommies over there. So yeah, check that 0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:41.760 out and let's get started a big episode today. 0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:46.159 Okay, today we're doing Starstruck victims. 0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:47.359 There's a young girl. 0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:49.760 She's in an orange mini skirt and then she has 0:22:49.800 --> 0:22:53.199 like a fur feather vibe cropped coat as she's in 0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:56.080 the r waiting room and she is annoyed. She's taping 0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:59.280 everything on her phone and she's like vlogging and I 0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:02.520 thought like was kind of a weird, out of touch word, 0:23:02.720 --> 0:23:05.840 but she uses it later and she's a twenty sixteen 0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:08.480 Yeah yeah, yeah, like now you would just be an influencer. 0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:10.720 Yeah, we would never save flagging. 0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:13.159 But she's been there for two hours and says that 0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:15.560 she had an officer assigned to her, but she's flirting 0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:18.879 with another uniform person at the desk, and so the 0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:21.720 cops are flirting, so too busy, and then she's waiting 0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:23.920 for a sexual assault nurse to be free, and everything 0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:29.320 hurts and she can't ingest anything for the test. You know, 0:23:29.400 --> 0:23:31.680 they want everything they can get, but she keeps gagging 0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:33.960 because she's so grossed out at like the taste of 0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:38.480 this person for hours. So then Jen comes in and 0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:42.240 she's the nurse, and you know, our girl is secretly 0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:45.200 recording everything. They go to a private room and Jen 0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:47.439 clocks the phone and she's like, you can't record anything. 0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:50.280 It's hospital policy. And she goes seriously and it's like, 0:23:50.640 --> 0:23:52.879 you can't record your own care. That's so fucked up, 0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:56.719 and it's obviously for lawsuits and hospital stuff. Like I 0:23:56.800 --> 0:23:59.040 understand why you don't want that, but like that's a policy. 0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:02.359 I think that's crazy. I think it's crazy that you 0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:05.760 can't like videotape directions or your experience at the hospital. 0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:10.080 I don't get it, especially if you're in a room 0:24:10.119 --> 0:24:11.960 on your own, like you're in a private room. 0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:14.439 Yeah, I really don't get it. So she picks the 0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:15.119 phone back up. 0:24:15.280 --> 0:24:18.120 When the exam is done, though, and the detectives walk 0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:20.240 in and she leans her phone on a bottle of 0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:24.520 rubbing alcohol horizontally to record, and so it's Rollin's and creasy. 0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:27.280 She starts crying and she says that she was raped 0:24:27.280 --> 0:24:30.000 in a nightclub restroom, and then she's like, oh, I 0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:32.160 have a photo of him on my phone. And when 0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:34.800 she goes to grab the phone, Crisey's like, whoao are 0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:37.159 you recording this? And she's like, yeah, I'm a vlogger 0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:40.399 and she says, my followers want to know everything, and 0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:43.280 she's looking at him like he's so stupid, and they 0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:46.240 freeze and somber music starts playing, and when she points 0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:48.959 the camera at them and she goes, what are your names? 0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:53.920 And then it's the credits, So now it's Benson and 0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:58.240 well not in episode two, but these credits. I think 0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:01.720 it's like her sexiest hair. It's a lob straight down 0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:05.200 the middle part. It's just it's giving everything I want. 0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:10.000 And Gallagher aka Eyebrows aka Daddy Dodds is holding the 0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:13.000 New York Ledger aka the New York Post of the 0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:16.080 Suvu universe, and it's Hank Abraham's face. 0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:19.880 If you can remember, he was not Chief of D's, 0:25:19.960 --> 0:25:20.240 but he. 0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:23.600 Was like high up and he was a pedophile and 0:25:23.800 --> 0:25:26.520 was married to Pippacocks, and the headline says, so long 0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:29.400 Hank and Daddy Dodds goes, well, he was never one 0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:32.159 of us. He was a political appointee. And it's like, 0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:37.720 aren't you like and you like placed your son somewhere 0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:44.000 like you're playing little games too. But he slams the 0:25:44.000 --> 0:25:47.000 paper down on Benson's desk and says, well, nobody's losing 0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:50.160 sleep over him, and Benson goes, well, we sure did. 0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:57.960 Like hip is Yeah, it's like they broke the fucking case. 0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:01.880 She says she has never met anybody, so I hate 0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:05.040 this word. It's really hard for me. Compart to mentalize, 0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:10.240 compart mentalized. He is, so, it's like not natural. These 0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:11.760 are not natural letters put together. 0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:13.280 I would say I. 0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:17.720 Break it up into compart and mentalized, compartmentalized, compartmentalized. 0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:22.800 That was a really good little tip, m compartmentalized. Okay, 0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:25.800 look at that. So then DoD says, hey, anything to 0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:34.160 get through the day, I just can't. And then he goes, so, anyways, 0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:37.159 my son, he told his dad that he's learned a 0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:38.960 lot under her, and she goes, yeah, I mean he 0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:42.560 works hard, he's a good cop and he takes that 0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:44.239 and goes, well, so you agree it's time for him 0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:46.640 to take a more high profile role and she goes, yeah, 0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:50.480 he mentions joint terrorism, like he mentioned it, and he goes, well, listen, 0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:53.159 I'm asking when the time comes, give him a good recommendation. 0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:54.840 And she gets up and goes, you don't even have 0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:59.520 to ask about this chief. And it's also like she's 0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:05.080 the chief of son. Yeah, Like obviously having your immediate 0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:09.359 boss recue is great, but it's like, stop pretending you 0:27:09.400 --> 0:27:11.680 didn't just assign your son somewhere and you're gonna try 0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:12.800 to assign him somewhere else. 0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:18.800 But he does die, so that sucks. But like, yeah, yeah. 0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:21.399 He's like going through the motions of like so that 0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:24.480 it looks good. It looks like he didn't just get placed, right, 0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:27.800 He's got a glowing recommendation from Benson whatever you know. 0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:31.520 Yeah, yea yeah, a person he barely acts like he respects. 0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:34.240 Yeah, So we pan over to Rollin. 0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:36.560 She's at her desk and she's watching the club footage 0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:39.600 on a laptop. DoD's in creasy flank her standing and 0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:42.360 Daddy goes to touch his son to chap. They look 0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:44.280 at the screen and Daddy's like, wait, hold up, that's 0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:47.040 the TV actor and they're like, yeah, she was assaulted 0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:49.560 at his club last night, Bobby Dee's hide Away. 0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:51.560 I do wonder what this is based on. And I 0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:52.920 know you're going to go through the crimes. 0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:55.680 And I don't think Bradley Cooper's new Philly cheese stick 0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:58.600 spot in the East Village is newer, but it has 0:27:58.640 --> 0:27:59.600 like a silly name. 0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:04.800 Like this, let me look at Bradley Cooper. Like even 0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:07.240 when justin Timberlake had a restaurant. 0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:11.160 Like look, how close it's Danny and Coop's Cheese Steaks. Yeah, 0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:13.960 and a friend brought them over and they were good. 0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:15.760 It was good, Like people like it. 0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:16.679 Oh, I was. 0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:18.520 I'm surprised it has the name in it. It's just 0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:19.959 calling it Bobby D's Hideaway. 0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:23.159 It's like people don't usually name the place after themselves. 0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:28.800 No, they usually do people they do a nightclub. Oh no, 0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:30.720 you're right, you know. I feel like you'd be like. 0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:34.960 Oh, like Susan Sarandon has this club called Spin or whatever, 0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:36.359 you know, like a. 0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:37.120 Ping pong club. 0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:39.400 But that was just like something, you know, like you 0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:42.160 wouldn't be like, I don't know, it's just but Coop's 0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:46.600 chicken is that's fun? I mean, sure, you invented the 0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:50.200 chicken what? Oh wait, what did you say? Oh, Philly 0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:58.760 cheese stakes? Sorry, I think because of Coop. No, I 0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:00.840 think he's what is bread the Coops. So I don't 0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:02.360 know who Danny is, but he's Coops. 0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:03.760 He's Coops, all. 0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:14.280 Right, Bobby these hideaway. Okay, Daddy is confused and I 0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:16.440 have to stop calling him that. So Daddy Dodds is 0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:19.960 confused that she recorded it, and they go, yeah, that's 0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:22.720 like from the start of her night, and but he 0:29:22.880 --> 0:29:25.600 is not who she even accused. She accused the bar manager, 0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:28.480 Noel Panko, and he followed her into the bathroom and 0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:31.640 raped and sodomized her. And then Daddy Dodds is like, okay, 0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:33.560 I'll holler at Bobby and see what he has to 0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:37.640 say about it. Careasey spins around fast like crossed arms, 0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:40.600 hair is so gelled. He goes, you know, Bobby Demico, 0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:43.480 he's a friend of the department, Daddy dodd says, and 0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:46.200 then Bobby Dodds, Baby Dods, I mean, I mean I 0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:50.560 cannot keep up, like okay, Baby Dodds, Andy Carl adds, well, 0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:52.800 he bought us a bunch of Nobu dinners while he 0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:54.280 was getting ready for a cop roll. 0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:58.160 I want to eat Nobu so bad. So he goes, Listen, 0:29:58.200 --> 0:29:58.840 Bobby is good. 0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:01.120 He's always on the podium for the widow and sad 0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:04.960 kid charities and Ben because that's yeah, whatever, anyone that 0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:08.200 donates to police, we have to assume they are guilty 0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:11.040 of a crime, right. 0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:13.040 Yeah, I mean I guess I sort of thought when 0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:14.880 he said the widows and kids that he was talking 0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:16.280 about nine to eleven victims. 0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:18.040 But you know that I always have nine to eleven 0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:19.600 on the brain. Yeah. 0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:22.200 No, I think it's like if your cop but partner 0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:26.120 is murdered, yes, and if yeah, and the family should 0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:26.840 be taken care of. 0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:29.880 For sure. I'm not, but you're correct. 0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:32.880 Like, if you're a guy that's constantly on a podium 0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:36.000 and a cop cops the cops, you're you need them 0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:36.640 for something? 0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:37.360 Yeah. 0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:40.240 Benson goes, could we hold off on calling him please? Like, 0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:43.360 would like to do an investigation before you call in 0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:44.000 your buddy? 0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:45.720 Yeah, and he just goes, listen. 0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:48.239 You know, I just people with celebs they see an 0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:52.040 easy payday, Like, what is what is so easy? About 0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:54.640 these pay days. That's what I'd like to know. It 0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:58.960 seems pretty hard because it seems like, yeah, so the 0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:02.320 whole squad is done, and Baby Dodds is definitely like, ugh, dad, 0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:04.840 stop embarrassing me in front of all of my new friends. 0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:08.000 And then Benson turns to her team and goes okay, wow, 0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:11.240 but only with her face. And then Karsi's like, well 0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:15.280 that was subtle, and Baby Dodds goes, listen, I am 0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:16.960 not a fan of Bobby Demiico. 0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:19.680 Just so you all know. Now, we see that Christy 0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:20.720 was at a bar with a friend. 0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:22.880 She didn't disclose to her friend because she didn't want 0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:24.040 to ruin her friend's birthday. 0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:26.600 Like they're young though, But. 0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:28.960 Yeah, I mean I still feel like i'd be like, hey, 0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:30.560 i'm not feeling good, I'm gonna head home. 0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:35.520 Yeah, you know she is party. 0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:35.840 Yeah. 0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:37.800 I mean, I'm not blaming. I'm not victim blaming. I'm 0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:38.400 just knowing. 0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:41.040 No, it's just it's really nice to think of your 0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:43.320 friend's birthday, but it's going to be used against you 0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:46.720 in the court of lobby. Unfortunately, you can't smile after, 0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:48.680 you can't be a good friend. They're gonna use it 0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:52.240 against you cannot have fun ever again that you can't drink. 0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:56.360 I don't know, but I do hear about people getting 0:31:56.600 --> 0:32:01.080 acts out of weddings for less. You left my birthday 0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:04.280 after you've got assaulted, You bitch, you're out? Yeah right, 0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:08.280 So but you know, they go, let's go talk to 0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:10.000 the friends. See what she saw. So they go to 0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:14.880 a pet store called Furry Rascals Lol. Obsessed, she's shocked 0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:17.320 to hear about the rape. She was there till after three. 0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:19.400 She put her friend in a cab. They're like, okay, 0:32:19.400 --> 0:32:21.240 but what happened before? She's like, we were together the 0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:24.240 whole time. We went out to smoke some SIGs. But 0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:27.320 that wasn't even until after two, and they were playing 0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:30.640 Billy Joel by then. She shocks, you know again about 0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:32.479 the ripe. Okay, so the Billy Joel was playing. They 0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:34.760 were both drunk. She says, no one was creepy. They're 0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:37.000 mostly at the bar with the manager and she's like, 0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:40.920 maybe like he can help. He was super attentive and 0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:43.240 she goes, and if you go to a bar with Christy, 0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:47.240 you never pay for drinks. Even Bobby Demiko was flirting 0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:51.000 with her. Chrissy danced Chris Christy danced with him. They 0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:53.960 made out a little and so now we cut and 0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:57.440 we're in like a revolutionary drag moment and it's jazz 0:32:57.480 --> 0:32:58.760 Man from Sex in the City. 0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:00.760 Hello, a true dream come true. 0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:04.800 And he's also in a season five episode escape We 0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:08.160 love him and there is a knife to a throat 0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:11.360 type situation. Obviously we didn't try and travel. We are 0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:13.200 in the sv universe. We know we're on a set 0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:15.280 and we hear a cut and there's a bunch of 0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:20.920 men in probably fake Canadian Goose or whatever jackets, but 0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:24.640 the logo is there, so I was wondering if svu's 0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:29.720 sprung for the real Jackets or if they're bootlegs. But 0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:32.880 Baby Dodds is there and it seems like a casual 0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:35.080 meetup and super friendly because they do know each other, 0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:38.160 and he's like, wow, this looks good and jaz Man's like, yeah, 0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:41.680 it's just like Napoleon in America. The concept is what 0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:44.640 if Napoleon invaded the US instead of Russia and he 0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:48.080 goes it's called The Resistance on Netflix. And I just 0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:50.320 find this so fucking funny because it seems like they 0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:51.520 would have to take a boat all the way to 0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:53.560 the US, Like, why would they do that? I mean, 0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:59.760 am I being silly? Like Russia is closer to France? 0:33:59.840 --> 0:33:59.959 Right? 0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:00.400 Like? 0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:01.840 Is that? Or was there more too? 0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:04.480 I just don't know enough about the geography of how 0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:06.920 Napoleon got to France and the history of I mean, 0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:09.799 how Napoleon got to Russia. 0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:12.719 But this show obviously is making fun of something and 0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:15.359 I do love that. And now they're doing a walk 0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:17.160 and talk. He goes, listen, the reason I hit you 0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:19.160 up is because something might have happened at the club 0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:21.120 last night. He goes, really, I was there the whole time. 0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:23.839 And he's like, well about your manager? He goes, I mean, 0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:25.960 I can tell you when the manager lost his virginity. 0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:28.520 That's my boy. We go way back. We're childhood friends. 0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:31.040 And he says, why are you here, Like is this 0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:33.839 about Noel? I stopped playing games. I played a cop 0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:36.600 for ten seasons. Do you not remember the Nobuo dinners? Yes, 0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:38.920 stop fucking with me, And he shows the photo the 0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:41.160 girl and he goes, oh, I know her friend's birthday. 0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:43.279 We got them drinks. Nice to have cute girls at 0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:45.440 the bar. And this guy is how I be like 0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:48.759 clearly asemall and he wants Dodds to tell him what 0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:51.520 she said, and he's like, no, why don't you tell 0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:52.360 me what happened? 0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:53.600 He calls her a freak. 0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:55.560 He says, we danced, we made out, and then we 0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:59.440 made love in the bathroom for three minutes. Calls it consensual, 0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:02.320 but it's like three minutes as psychotic, and then Dodds 0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:04.480 clarifies to just you and he goes, well, first, but 0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:06.560 then Noel came in and she took care of him too, 0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:10.360 and so that's what everyone wants, a three minute Like DP, 0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:12.920 what are we talking about? So then he asked if 0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:14.560 she was fine with that, and he goes, oh yeah, 0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:18.239 very into it. Not her first rodeo, and he's like, 0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:18.960 it's a shakedown. 0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:22.080 It's a shakedown. Baby. Dodds is not into any of this. 0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:24.680 So we're back at work and Benson's like, oh yeah, okay, 0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:27.640 one big consensual three way in the bathroom and then 0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:31.359 Dodds is like, yep, not shy about it, and Rollins goes, 0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:32.600 they're childhood friends. 0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:34.040 He's gonna have his boys back. 0:35:34.360 --> 0:35:36.719 But like, Bobby's also not a fucking idiot, so like, 0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:38.520 why would he put himself in the bathroom with her? 0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:41.080 If he wasn't there, so like, obviously something happened in 0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:44.239 that little bathroom, and Creasy is being bad boy, bad 0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:46.680 boy and goes, well, she was dancing after so she 0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:49.520 claims she was assaulted. Why was she dancing? So then 0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:52.319 obviously the women at the office were like, excuse me, 0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:55.680 like we all know post assault behavior varies. And then 0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:58.319 Benson adds like, even if she did fuck actor boy 0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:00.600 and the other guy could have still a celt at her, 0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:05.080 like hello, And then in the meantime, Christian like, let's 0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:07.680 bring Christian and let her tell us what else she 0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:11.439 didn't tell us. That makes sense, right, Okay, So then 0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:16.480 the manager is so short, and I don't you know, 0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:21.880 it's fine, short people exist, but like he is really 0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:25.719 a tiny man in this. I don't think we've seen 0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:29.359 a shorter man caring. You didn't clock this, you didn't 0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:32.360 clock I didn't clock the shortness. He seemed shorter. I 0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:36.400 think also because Craig Birco is tall, he seems not 0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:39.240 even here. We're with the detectives, we're with the rives, 0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:42.319 and he's moving the boxes. He's moving them up and 0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:44.440 the boxes are taking up half his body, and the 0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:46.800 Dods and Benson are following him and they have to 0:36:46.840 --> 0:36:49.680 take really tiny steps and then he's like, Bobby called me, 0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:52.320 what the fuck is up? That girl sucks? And Dodd's 0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:54.920 playing in them like, I know, you know, whatever she is, 0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:56.839 she does suck. I'm sure she's just mad you didn't 0:36:56.840 --> 0:36:59.520 send flowers, but she did go to the er, and 0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:02.160 Benson's acting done, like how do you think she could 0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:04.160 have gotten hur and he's like, I don't know, but 0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:06.560 you got three people in a small child bathroom while 0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:08.400 things happen, and they're like, so she was into it 0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:11.239 and he says yes, and then he calls Bobby catnip 0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:14.920 for the ladies and then they're like, okay, well, like 0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:17.719 we're talking about you, what are the girls doing for you? 0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:21.160 And he's like, I get my fair share of the runoffs, 0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:24.560 which is like so pukeworthy, Like can you imagine that 0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:27.560 being like your dating life or your goals is just 0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:31.040 like I'll get the runoffs of my friend. I mean 0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:35.120 it's worse. They're obviously rapists, but it's just like crazy to. 0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:35.759 Resign to that. 0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:38.520 They're like, we heard you join later and he goes, well, 0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:41.200 I want to look for him, and then saw he 0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:44.440 was busy but she invited me and Benson goes, she 0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:47.640 did very surprised, and she asked, well, what did she 0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:50.840 say exactly? And he starts backtracking, like, oh, maybe Bobby's 0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:54.239 who said it, and like were their cameras? Like why 0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:55.959 don't you just show us the footage? And he goes, yeah, 0:37:55.960 --> 0:37:58.120 take all the cameras you want. So he says she 0:37:58.239 --> 0:38:01.120 was twerking to last call. So then we see footage 0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:03.960 of the makeout and it's on a laptop. Now Chrisy 0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:07.880 is showing Christian woodroom blinds the makeout. 0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:10.000 She resigns and goes, ugh, we made out. 0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:11.480 I didn't want you to think I was a slut, 0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:13.640 and Rollins tells her she needs to be honest with them, 0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:16.120 and she's like, it was just oral with Bobby. Then 0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:18.600 Noel came in and he like knew we were in there, 0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:20.560 like he knew, and she was not okay with it, 0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:23.040 and Bobby's like, can he join? And she goes no, 0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:25.440 and he started to guilt her and going look at 0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:26.720 those puppy dog eyes. 0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:28.080 You hurt his feelings. 0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:32.200 And then spy window is Daddy Dodds, Benson and Barbara, 0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:35.399 and Barba says, oh, that's way too cheesy for her 0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:37.800 to have made up. And then Daddy Dodds is like, 0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:39.879 what the fuck, Like I don't know, like this girl 0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:42.840 has no grip on reality, and Benson's goes shut the 0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:45.680 fuck up, and so then Christy says she was drunk 0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:47.680 and Bobby was gone when the door opened, and the 0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:50.279 little guy stayed and she was rinsing her face and 0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:52.640 he shoved her face into the sink and raped her 0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:55.839 from behind. And the problem is, ten minutes later, she 0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:58.680 was dancing like nothing happened. So that's obviously like doesn't 0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:01.200 look good to like regular brain to people who don't 0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:03.560 get this. So then she sighs like I told you 0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:05.040 it was her birthday and I didn't want to bum 0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:05.560 her out. 0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:07.600 No rape me, I swear to God. 0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:09.880 And then it's knock knock, knock on the glass Rollin's 0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:12.680 and Creasy Leave Rollin says, I know it looks bad, 0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:15.000 and Daddy calls her a train wreck. It's like they 0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:17.040 all treat her like such a mess this whole episode. 0:39:17.080 --> 0:39:19.480 But she doesn't even seem that crazy to me. No, 0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:23.600 I mean, she sat pretty in the er for hours 0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:25.279 and I don't know if that's like where she's sobered up, 0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:28.040 but she seems pretty with it, Like, I don't see 0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:32.640 the craziness. Why would she do a rape kit like 0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:35.239 and to do a shakedown also against the actor when 0:39:35.280 --> 0:39:38.280 it's two of them, when it's your your word against 0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:40.279 two guys, Like, that's not really how you would do it, 0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:41.080 you know what I mean. 0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:44.719 But we'll see in the in in one of the 0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:45.520 regular cases. 0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:51.560 Also, this actress is named Vivian Cardone and she was 0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:53.719 in eighty nine episodes of Everwood. 0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:54.719 Is that a show you ever heard? 0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:54.840 Like? 0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:57.320 It's got to like Treat Williams and Emily Van Camp 0:39:57.360 --> 0:39:57.600 It was. 0:39:57.880 --> 0:40:00.759 I feel like it was CW. Right, Yes, yeah, I 0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:03.120 think so. It was like a CW and Chris. 0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:04.640 Not to be confused with Deadwood. 0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:09.560 Yes, Everwood very different from We did go on Father's Day, 0:40:09.560 --> 0:40:12.239 by the way to the real dead Wood, no stop. Yes, 0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:15.520 my kids did this thing where they had to find 0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:18.360 twenty five pictures of wild Bill Hiccock all over the town. 0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:20.359 And we just walked around the town and my kids 0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:22.600 were looking for pictures of wild Bill Hiccock so they 0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:25.160 could get a bag of chocolate. It was so stupid 0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:27.880 and funny. Chris Pratt was on this show for a 0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:32.759 guy who played the nflct uh Tree Williams. 0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:36.319 Yeah, yeah, Scott Wolfe, Sarah Drew. We got lots of 0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:38.120 SVU alums here too. 0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:42.160 Sarah Drew is the girl from the drunk episode responsible anyway. 0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:44.960 Ever would, Ever would for anybody that's interested this girl 0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:46.840 from everyone. I don't know if she acts that much anymore, 0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:50.640 but Ever would. And Benson, that you know, is like, listen, 0:40:50.880 --> 0:40:52.919 I know she's not the most credible victim, but something 0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:55.040 definitely happened to her, and Barba says, probably a lot 0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:57.319 of things, but I have to focus on court and 0:40:57.360 --> 0:40:59.680 she's a fucking liar and they cut him off. 0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:01.240 None of that means she wasn't raped. 0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:03.520 And Dodds keeps being annoying as well, and they say 0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:06.360 we've taken you know. They're like, we've taken tougher cases 0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:08.600 and Barbara goes, okay, but we have to pick our cases, 0:41:08.600 --> 0:41:11.879 and Chriasy says the story is compromised, and baby Dodds 0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:14.680 is like, listen, what about if we find a pattern 0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:17.440 like he must have they must have done this before, 0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:19.799 and so I love him for that, and Barba says, 0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:22.400 that's up to Lieutenant. And then daddy Dodds goes, no, 0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:25.160 it's up to me, and he doesn't want to move 0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:27.239 forward with the case because his little. 0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:28.359 Friend because of this guy. 0:41:28.520 --> 0:41:31.239 Yep, and baby Dodds makes a face like, oh my 0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:33.879 fucking dad. And then Benson tells the girl the bad 0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:35.960 news and she's like, but I was raped, and Benson goes, no, 0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:38.120 I believe you, but like, it's just hard to prove 0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:41.319 beyond a reasonable doubt, and Christy regrets saying anything. At 0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:44.200 the hospital, Benson reminds her that the rape kit stays 0:41:44.239 --> 0:41:47.600 on file and the case stays open, and she calls 0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:49.719 herself stupid. I was so excited to have a big 0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:52.319 start interested in me. And so then now we caught 0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:54.560 to a baby talking to daddy and he hangs up 0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:57.759 and tells the squad that Bobby says he owes us one. 0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:02.400 Why would an innocent person say that? Yeah? Yeah, that 0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:03.239 didn't sit well. 0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:07.240 So Benson goes, oh, great, like and so then Rollins 0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:09.439 is like, fuck this, Okay, the girl's a hot mess, 0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:11.560 but do we really think that she cried rape for attention? 0:42:11.719 --> 0:42:13.400 And Chreasy goes, well, she has a twenty four to 0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:18.040 seven blogger and Rollins has been going through three years. 0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:18.560 Of her posts. 0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:20.880 She's partied with a lot of celebs, like a celeb 0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:24.400 wouldn't like truly spin her out. She posts every single photo. 0:42:24.880 --> 0:42:27.920 She wants people to know she's having fun, and Benson goes, well, 0:42:27.920 --> 0:42:31.160 not anymore. Her newest vlog is going viral. They all 0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:34.399 cried around the computer. She says the NYPD won't help her, 0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:38.080 so she spills all the details. She named checks Olivia Benson. 0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:41.040 She's crying, explaining what happened? Why did I say it 0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:41.239 like that? 0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:45.799 She's crying, that was so Chicago somber music. Wow. 0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:47.920 He calls Daddy Dodd's Bill and I don't think I 0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:50.200 ever realized that was his name. And then he calls 0:42:50.239 --> 0:42:53.040 the girl out of control and how she's throwing his 0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:56.840 name in the garbage, and he says, I got a 0:42:56.880 --> 0:43:01.040 golden globe and I went to Yale. And it's like, 0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:03.400 so does Claar Danes And you don't see her raping? 0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:05.280 Nope? Okay. 0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:08.200 So he's livid and we're a Daddy's office and Baby 0:43:08.239 --> 0:43:10.800 Dads is like, hey, like nobody is denying that it 0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:15.040 started consensual, And the jazz man's eyes open wide and 0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:17.480 the facial hairs on point and then he's like, you're 0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:20.480 actually gonna take this nut job seriously And he's like 0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:23.839 the vlog pissed on you, just like me, and Benson goes, yeah, sure, 0:43:23.840 --> 0:43:26.200 we'll chat with her about it, like our egos are normal, 0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:27.160 Like what the fuck? 0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:28.880 That's like? What it bothers me? 0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:31.520 When CoP's like even when I was threatened with a baton, 0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:33.600 I guess, but it's this thing of like you can't 0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:35.560 even taunt to Cop, Like the whole point is you're 0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:37.239 supposed to better than us, Like the whole point is 0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:40.600 like you're heroes and you're sacrificing everything, but like we 0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:43.080 can't make fun of you. You can't handle a dumb 0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:46.640 bitch yelling at you like I don't freedom of speech? Yeah, 0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:48.719 then you shouldn't be a call, you know, like him 0:43:48.719 --> 0:43:51.840 being like but she talks shit about you, and it's like, yeah, 0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:54.600 like that's fine, that doesn't bother me. 0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:57.120 I'm a professional, I bet so. 0:43:57.200 --> 0:43:59.920 Anyways, somehow we keep our emotions at bay and you 0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:03.520 seem out of your mind. Actually, you know, sir Bobby Demiko, 0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:09.200 Why does Bobby Demico sound so familiar? You have? 0:44:09.920 --> 0:44:11.879 It feels like a very SVU name. 0:44:12.160 --> 0:44:16.040 I don't know, Like, you're right, it does, like I 0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:17.320 think there's oh my god. 0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:19.920 It's I'm thinking of Brad Miko. 0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:22.320 He is the doctor that's trying to go on a 0:44:22.400 --> 0:44:24.320 date with Carrie Bradshaw and the Hampton's. 0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:25.680 I think that's what I'm thinking about. 0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:30.840 Oh okay, yes, Brad Miko, right, Okay, it's doctor Bradley Migo. 0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:32.520 Maybe that's what I'm thinking about. 0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:39.080 Bradley Migo. And Bobby Demico's kind of different. But maybe 0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:42.040 I just think Bobby Demico totally sounds like a character 0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:44.600 on this show, Like we've seen another guy whose name 0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:48.560 was like Billy Demont's like, you know Billy. 0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:54.240 So I don't know. I'm like, now I'm sounding yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, 0:44:54.320 --> 0:44:55.120 I'm back. I'm back. 0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:58.000 Anyways, So we're back at the precinct. She's walking in 0:44:58.040 --> 0:44:59.840 with a new zest in her step. She's like, I 0:44:59.880 --> 0:45:02.440 have one hundred thousand followers. People want to know what happened. 0:45:02.480 --> 0:45:05.120 And they walk into wood room blinds and Carasey's like, 0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:07.160 you should have told us the truth, not the internet, 0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:09.279 and she says, fuck you. You guys have Bobby's back 0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:12.000 and you don't care about me, which fair Rollin's and 0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:14.240 Creasy sit with her and say, this is your last chance. 0:45:14.320 --> 0:45:16.520 You have to tell us exactly what happened. She's like, 0:45:16.600 --> 0:45:19.560 I told you I was giving him or or. She says, 0:45:19.600 --> 0:45:22.400 I was giving him oral when the little guy walked 0:45:22.400 --> 0:45:24.440 in and Bobby asked if he can join, but I 0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:27.160 wasn't into that, and he said, you're gonna hurt his feelings. 0:45:27.320 --> 0:45:29.520 She told him she wanted to go upstairs. He told her, 0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:31.840 you can't leave me like that. You have to finish 0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:34.040 what you started. He pushed her head down till he 0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:37.080 was done. Noel watched, then Bobby left. She walked to 0:45:37.160 --> 0:45:40.120 the sink. Noel pushed in from behind and raped her. 0:45:40.400 --> 0:45:43.040 Now we cut to Baby Dodds and Benson with Bobby 0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:45.040 Demico and he's like, I told you she wanted it, 0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:48.799 and they bring up him leaving with Noel like still 0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:51.919 in there, and he goes, whatever Noel said happened, I'm 0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:53.719 sure she wanted it, and Benson goes, well, how can 0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:54.160 you be sure? 0:45:54.520 --> 0:45:57.160 Like what exactly did she say that made you think? 0:45:57.239 --> 0:45:57.319 Like? 0:45:57.360 --> 0:46:00.600 What are her exact words? And she goes, I don't know. 0:46:00.680 --> 0:46:03.640 Her head was in my lap, and Benson goes excuse me, 0:46:04.200 --> 0:46:06.880 And Daddy Dodds gets up to smooth it over and 0:46:07.000 --> 0:46:08.880 then gives him a clue and goes, maybe you shouldn't 0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:13.280 be talking without your lawyer. I know that was wild. 0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:18.880 You never suggests a lawyer, well, especially like fuck you, 0:46:20.719 --> 0:46:21.719 So whose side are you on? 0:46:21.800 --> 0:46:23.160 Benson gets up from HER's chair. 0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:26.359 She's shocked, like, why the fuck would you tell him 0:46:26.400 --> 0:46:29.200 to lawyer up when he's talking? And he says, well, 0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:32.239 she's making public accusations, and he says he can be. 0:46:32.520 --> 0:46:35.520 You know, he's as much of a victim as she is. Honestly, 0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:36.640 when people like it's like. 0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:37.600 Oh my god. 0:46:37.920 --> 0:46:40.800 He says it okay, so whatever, he thinks that Bobby 0:46:40.800 --> 0:46:44.040 Demico is the victim of this situation because we know 0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:45.240 that that happens all the time. 0:46:45.600 --> 0:46:47.440 So then Bill and we don't want to ruin this 0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:50.439 innocent young man's life. He's got the future ahead of them. 0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:52.240 So then baby okay. 0:46:52.280 --> 0:46:55.400 So then baby Daddy steps to Baby Dodds steps to 0:46:55.600 --> 0:46:58.640 Daddy Dodds and goes, Okay, what do you think we 0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:00.920 should do now? And he says I already told you 0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:04.280 not to press charges, and Ben's goes, yeah, that's before 0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:07.080 she named another rapist who's like this guy and we 0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:09.880 keep forgetting about it and I'm so fucking annoyed, and 0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:12.399 he goes, let's be real here. The sooner this goes away, 0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:14.759 the better this is for everyone. We are back in 0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:17.160 the woodroom blinds and Creasy is convincing her to put 0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:19.719 the vlog down. She refuses. He wants her to put 0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:22.400 the phone down. She goes, no, people are being supportive, 0:47:22.400 --> 0:47:25.400 and then she goes and look at this. Another accusations 0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:28.480 will you look at that? And so basically like someone 0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:30.600 is writing like this happens to me. I know, I 0:47:30.640 --> 0:47:32.920 know exactly what you're talking about. So they go talk 0:47:33.000 --> 0:47:35.279 to who left that comment, and that's Sarah Brown who 0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:39.080 left the on Chrissy's blog, and she's like, hello, privacy, 0:47:39.120 --> 0:47:40.960 and they're like, do you not read the terms and conditions, 0:47:40.960 --> 0:47:44.919 you dumb bitch. So they're there Chrisye and Rollins are like, hey, 0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:46.879 you sound like you want to help her, and she goes, yeah, 0:47:46.880 --> 0:47:49.360 I just want to let her know, like she's not 0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:51.400 the only one going through this and I get it, 0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:54.040 and she confirms it happened to her. She was going 0:47:54.040 --> 0:47:56.120 down on him. The door opened, it was nol he 0:47:56.160 --> 0:47:58.080 knew they were in there. Bobby asked if he could 0:47:58.120 --> 0:48:00.200 take care of his little friend and she said know, 0:48:00.640 --> 0:48:02.520 and the same line was given, Oh I look at 0:48:02.520 --> 0:48:05.520 those puppy eyes. You hurt his feelings and then Rollins 0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:06.879 gives Cariesy a smug look. 0:48:07.239 --> 0:48:07.960 It is crazy. 0:48:08.000 --> 0:48:09.799 It's like, why don't you just want I mean, you're 0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:12.080 a rapist, Like, why can't you just try to hook 0:48:12.120 --> 0:48:13.280 up with girls who want to hook. 0:48:13.160 --> 0:48:13.480 Up with you? 0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:15.640 Yeah? 0:48:15.680 --> 0:48:18.960 And every time it's like what you're I think it's 0:48:19.040 --> 0:48:21.960 like they're trying to make it seem like the Bobby 0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:24.520 Dimico could get anything he wants, but he helps his 0:48:24.560 --> 0:48:27.960 buddy out because he just has so many girls around him. 0:48:27.960 --> 0:48:31.600 But also it's power thing, right, It's never about like, 0:48:32.160 --> 0:48:34.879 oh I can't get girls like you're a bartender. You're 0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:37.120 not ugly. I know you said he's very short, but 0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:38.799 he's not. You know, I went on a date with 0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:41.680 a short person last week. I'm not hating on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:48:41.680 --> 0:48:44.879 it just looks very shocking. He's he's as high as 0:48:44.920 --> 0:48:46.680 the sink. I don't even know how hevent this girl 0:48:46.680 --> 0:48:47.279 over to rag her. 0:48:48.600 --> 0:48:49.799 I just think the point of. 0:48:49.760 --> 0:48:52.759 It is that like they like doing this together or 0:48:52.800 --> 0:48:55.000 working together and being like haha, fuck these girls and 0:48:55.080 --> 0:48:57.400 let's just do it like I don't know, be like 0:48:57.520 --> 0:48:58.720 do a power play together. 0:48:59.040 --> 0:49:00.960 And it's like, Bobby, what does this guy have on you? 0:49:00.960 --> 0:49:05.760 Because it seems like these girls willingly want to fuck. Yeah, yeah, 0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:10.080 so Bobby whatever. So again Bobby pushed her head down 0:49:10.080 --> 0:49:13.080 and Pinko raped from behind, is what this girl says. 0:49:13.480 --> 0:49:15.400 So Chrisy goes, why didn't you go to the cops? 0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:17.279 And it's like, are you really asking her that? As 0:49:17.320 --> 0:49:21.319 you're screwing over this victim Christie right now, exactly, why 0:49:21.320 --> 0:49:23.160 don't you go to the cops where we dismiss you 0:49:23.200 --> 0:49:25.080 and call you a stupid crazy bitch and a train 0:49:25.200 --> 0:49:27.280 rack like what the fuck are you even asking crazy? 0:49:27.640 --> 0:49:28.880 And she goes, listen, I was drunk. 0:49:28.920 --> 0:49:31.239 I did accept his invitation to go down there, like 0:49:31.239 --> 0:49:33.480 I didn't think anyone would care about it, and like 0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:35.400 you know in Core, it's and I don't want to 0:49:35.440 --> 0:49:37.879 lose my job. So we find out she's a PA 0:49:38.000 --> 0:49:41.520 on this Netflix series, so now she can't like she 0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:43.960 doesn't want to lose her jobs, so she's really like 0:49:44.040 --> 0:49:46.359 doesn't want to testify or take this any further. So 0:49:46.360 --> 0:49:48.239 now the squad's having a meeting with Barba at the 0:49:48.239 --> 0:49:51.640 precinct and the consistent stories, and Baby Dodds is like, 0:49:51.680 --> 0:49:54.440 I bet they do this every weekend. And Bobby gets, 0:49:55.200 --> 0:49:57.080 you know, like the cute girl the free drinks, and 0:49:57.120 --> 0:49:59.719 then his friend comes in and they're giving Barba the 0:49:59.719 --> 0:50:01.799 fact and this is like whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm not 0:50:01.840 --> 0:50:04.279 saying these guys don't suck. I'm just saying I still 0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:07.319 can't prosecute, and Benson goes, hold on, wait, there are 0:50:07.320 --> 0:50:09.960 other girls, and Rollins explains that Christy had to turn 0:50:09.960 --> 0:50:13.120 off the comments actually eventually because the love quickly went 0:50:13.160 --> 0:50:15.200 to hate. So none of the victims have called the 0:50:15.200 --> 0:50:18.160 precinct yet. But all of this is just like very complicated, 0:50:18.200 --> 0:50:22.360 and everyone's being annoyed. Everyone's being annoying. So Rollin's is 0:50:22.400 --> 0:50:24.680 working at her desk and he walks by, who's he? 0:50:24.760 --> 0:50:28.200 I don't even know, I'm at Baby Dodds. Oh my god, 0:50:28.200 --> 0:50:31.040 this is making my blood boil. So Rollin's is working 0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:33.200 at the desk and then Baby Dodds walks by and goes, 0:50:33.239 --> 0:50:34.840 don't you have a baby at home? And it's like, 0:50:34.920 --> 0:50:38.200 you're a baby and then she goes, yep, have a 0:50:38.239 --> 0:50:43.680 great nanny, Lucy part two. They cloned her, so then, sorry, 0:50:43.800 --> 0:50:45.879 I got a lot of respect. Must be tough being 0:50:45.880 --> 0:50:47.919 a working mother. And she says, want to know what's 0:50:47.960 --> 0:50:51.040 tough seeing two ass hats getting away with rape? And 0:50:51.160 --> 0:50:54.160 Dodd says, hey, no case is no case and Rollins 0:50:54.200 --> 0:50:55.520 is trying to get some words in and he just 0:50:55.600 --> 0:50:59.080 keeps being like she's crazy, she's mental and unstable. You 0:50:59.120 --> 0:51:01.680 get that right, And she goes, yeah, yeah, you think 0:51:01.719 --> 0:51:03.920 I have a blind spot because of my sister, don't you? 0:51:04.320 --> 0:51:06.080 And he's like, no, not at all. And she goes, 0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:08.719 you know what, you know that they're fucking guilty, and 0:51:08.760 --> 0:51:11.880 you know your dad's friend is also fucking guilty. And 0:51:11.920 --> 0:51:14.239 he starts walking towards her and being like, oh, you 0:51:14.239 --> 0:51:17.239 think I'm a daddy's boy and she goes, oh no, no, no, no, 0:51:17.280 --> 0:51:19.800 don't uhuh and he goes, listen, I hate these guys, 0:51:19.800 --> 0:51:21.680 but unless they get caught in the act, they're gonna 0:51:21.719 --> 0:51:24.160 keep doing it and getting away with it. And Rollins 0:51:24.200 --> 0:51:25.960 is like, great, you're just fine with all that, and 0:51:26.040 --> 0:51:28.200 he goes, why don't you clock out and go home? 0:51:28.239 --> 0:51:29.960 And she pours coffee and goes, why don't you stop 0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:33.239 telling me what to do, sergeant, and she slams down 0:51:33.280 --> 0:51:36.719 her laptop in frustration. I would have honestly slapped him 0:51:36.719 --> 0:51:41.799 in the face. So okay, so whatever. So now they 0:51:41.800 --> 0:51:44.720 I guess they've never met Rollin's through this whole time, 0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:46.680 which I didn't clock. 0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:49.480 But she goes to the bar doing what she does best. 0:51:49.560 --> 0:51:50.040 Baby girl. 0:51:50.160 --> 0:51:52.600 She's she's gonna flirt, she's gonna be hot, she's gonna flirt, 0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:53.760 and she's gonna get these guys. 0:51:54.120 --> 0:51:55.359 So she's taking shots with. 0:51:55.320 --> 0:51:58.600 Bobby, telling him how her mama is gonna like flip out, 0:51:58.640 --> 0:52:00.400 and he's like, oh, your mom's here with you, and 0:52:00.480 --> 0:52:02.200 she goes, well, what kind of vacation would that be? 0:52:02.760 --> 0:52:04.600 And he's like, oh, it's a big city. A girl 0:52:04.640 --> 0:52:05.480 can get into trouble. 0:52:05.520 --> 0:52:07.719 And she's acting like super tipsy and gets closer to 0:52:07.800 --> 0:52:10.640 him and goes, boys, when will they learn some girls 0:52:10.760 --> 0:52:14.600 like trouble. There's some hand touching. He makes eyes with Noel. 0:52:14.760 --> 0:52:17.200 They raise their eyebrows at each other. She's hooking up 0:52:17.239 --> 0:52:19.360 with him in the bathroom. She doesn't want it to 0:52:19.400 --> 0:52:21.520 go further. She keeps pulling her skirt down and going, 0:52:21.600 --> 0:52:23.480 you know, it's like just the heavy makeout and she's like, 0:52:23.520 --> 0:52:24.120 I have a boyfriend. 0:52:24.120 --> 0:52:24.800 I have a boyfriend. 0:52:25.040 --> 0:52:26.920 He says, I'll keep the secret, and it's like no 0:52:27.040 --> 0:52:28.799 means no, Like that's another thing, like. 0:52:30.320 --> 0:52:33.440 I actually like to me, I don't think it's just 0:52:33.440 --> 0:52:33.640 to me. 0:52:33.680 --> 0:52:35.200 And I'm sure it wasn't an original thing and I 0:52:35.239 --> 0:52:38.640 saw it on Instagram. But when people don't accept no 0:52:39.360 --> 0:52:45.040 right away, it like I kind of get a red alarm. 0:52:45.200 --> 0:52:47.520 Like I like if I say oh, no, thanks, and 0:52:47.520 --> 0:52:49.200 then you ask again, it's like, well, already said no, 0:52:49.200 --> 0:52:53.400 So I don't understand what's happening here. Yeah, I like, 0:52:54.040 --> 0:52:57.640 I don't understand asking again, and that's rape culture and stuff, 0:52:57.680 --> 0:52:59.239 but it's just it. 0:52:59.280 --> 0:52:59.960 Bothers Irwin. 0:53:00.000 --> 0:53:02.440 Someone doesn't want to drink and it's like no I 0:53:02.440 --> 0:53:03.400 don't want Oh well why not? 0:53:03.480 --> 0:53:03.799 Why not? 0:53:03.840 --> 0:53:05.319 Who gives a shit? Why not just shut the fuck 0:53:05.360 --> 0:53:07.279 up and take care of an answer? Like bothers me. 0:53:07.760 --> 0:53:09.480 I was sexing with someone and they asked for something 0:53:09.520 --> 0:53:10.799 and I was like no, and then they asked again 0:53:10.840 --> 0:53:12.000 and I was like, well, this is done and I 0:53:12.040 --> 0:53:15.319 never will talk to you again, Like are you out 0:53:15.360 --> 0:53:15.799 of your mind? 0:53:16.480 --> 0:53:16.600 Ye? 0:53:16.960 --> 0:53:19.080 Like it's just to me. Maybe it's because of the show, 0:53:19.840 --> 0:53:24.040 but like, uh, it really it really clocks. 0:53:23.840 --> 0:53:25.480 Is like if you have to pull your skirt down 0:53:25.480 --> 0:53:27.759 more than once, that's like an issue, I know. 0:53:28.480 --> 0:53:28.680 Yeah. 0:53:28.840 --> 0:53:31.520 So then Noel comes into and then he locks the door, 0:53:31.640 --> 0:53:33.680 and then he takes off his jacket and gets close 0:53:33.760 --> 0:53:36.560 and starts to kiss Rollin's neck as Bobby holds her 0:53:36.560 --> 0:53:39.799 from behind and she keeps saying no, and then Bobby says, 0:53:39.800 --> 0:53:41.560 this will be a good story to take back home 0:53:41.600 --> 0:53:43.800 with you, and she's like, I want to go back upstairs. 0:53:43.840 --> 0:53:46.000 They will not let her. They're pulling her down. This 0:53:46.040 --> 0:53:48.279 is like a really aggressive scene. They're pulling her down 0:53:48.360 --> 0:53:51.080 to the ground, both of them, and Nola's like, baby, 0:53:51.160 --> 0:53:54.440 isn't this what you came here for. It's like not you, 0:53:56.600 --> 0:54:01.279 not you, Nol. Also though, like I'm so Rollins, like 0:54:01.360 --> 0:54:04.160 what you went there with no backup? 0:54:04.239 --> 0:54:06.840 Like you didn't you just like didn't even have some 0:54:07.080 --> 0:54:09.600 old cop buddy or maybe one of your gambling buddies 0:54:09.600 --> 0:54:11.959 there to like watch your ass, Like you just knew 0:54:11.960 --> 0:54:14.320 you could handle this on your own. Two guys locking 0:54:14.360 --> 0:54:17.400 a door, locking you in a bathroom, like exactly what 0:54:17.440 --> 0:54:19.640 you kind of wanted to happen is happening right? You 0:54:19.680 --> 0:54:22.480 wanted to bust them doing what they're doing, and it's 0:54:22.560 --> 0:54:25.240 just so dumb to not have any backup. 0:54:25.520 --> 0:54:27.719 So she needs him and he goes down fast, and 0:54:27.760 --> 0:54:30.319 then she grabs Bobby and slams his face against the 0:54:30.320 --> 0:54:32.919 wall and says, if you move, I will snap your arm, 0:54:33.320 --> 0:54:35.719 and then Nola's holding his dick on the ground love that. 0:54:36.239 --> 0:54:40.680 He says, sorry if you misunderstood. She says, I didn't 0:54:40.719 --> 0:54:44.200 misunderstand anything. She grabs her coat and leaves, and he 0:54:44.280 --> 0:54:46.400 runs after her and she tells him to stay away. 0:54:47.000 --> 0:54:49.640 Then Baby Dodds is there. He did follow her, and 0:54:49.680 --> 0:54:51.640 Bobby goes, oh, hey, nice to see you, but he 0:54:51.680 --> 0:54:53.799 looks worried, and then he asks if they know each other. 0:54:53.840 --> 0:54:56.640 Amanda says no, and Baby Dodds, I hate him, goes, yeah, 0:54:56.680 --> 0:55:00.000 we do. We work together. So then this guy's eyes 0:55:00.160 --> 0:55:03.320 go huge. You're a cop. She goes, yep, I was 0:55:03.360 --> 0:55:06.160 gonna wait till tomorrow, but you're under arrest for attempted rape. 0:55:06.239 --> 0:55:08.000 And Dodds doesn't want him to be taken down to 0:55:08.040 --> 0:55:10.520 the station. She drags him aside, like what the fuck, 0:55:10.920 --> 0:55:13.960 and they're outside there's sirens going, and like he is 0:55:13.960 --> 0:55:16.080 in the back of a car. But then they're fighting 0:55:16.120 --> 0:55:19.680 outside Dodds and Rawlins and he's like, you can't arrest him, 0:55:19.880 --> 0:55:22.239 and she goes cause your daddy said so. And he's like, well, no, 0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:25.439 you went undercover without authorization, and it's like Benson would 0:55:25.480 --> 0:55:29.319 have like authorized this. Yeah, I don't know why she 0:55:29.320 --> 0:55:31.880 didn't just go through official channels, obviously because of the script, 0:55:31.920 --> 0:55:34.160 but like, I don't know why she Well. 0:55:33.960 --> 0:55:37.399 Maybe she because Benson was told by Dodds like, don't 0:55:37.480 --> 0:55:39.560 keep doing this, so she wouldn't have authored. 0:55:39.600 --> 0:55:41.560 She might not have authorized like an undercover op. 0:55:41.800 --> 0:55:45.440 But the suspect's already lawyered up and because Daddy Dodds 0:55:45.480 --> 0:55:48.480 told him to in that morning, and so Rollin's is stunned. 0:55:48.480 --> 0:55:51.080 So it's like an open investigation. He already has counsel. 0:55:51.200 --> 0:55:53.479 And then like, guess who shows up to the scene 0:55:53.560 --> 0:55:57.480 of a crime. Buchanan, son of a bit, she says, 0:55:57.520 --> 0:56:00.879 and he calls her a honey trap and is like, oh, 0:56:00.880 --> 0:56:03.720 are these what new mothers are wearing these days? She says, 0:56:03.760 --> 0:56:07.040 save it, like you don't know a mom who's kind 0:56:07.040 --> 0:56:09.880 of slutty. Shut up, Buchanan, they have to uncuff him 0:56:09.880 --> 0:56:11.440 and let him out of the police car, and Baby 0:56:11.440 --> 0:56:14.120 Dodds tells Buchanan they're not off the hook yet. And 0:56:14.160 --> 0:56:18.240 now we're watching the taped footage. It's insane, and Barba's like, whoa, wow, 0:56:18.360 --> 0:56:21.279 you used yourself as bait, And so Rollin's goes, well, 0:56:21.360 --> 0:56:23.479 Dodds is the one who said we needed to catch 0:56:23.520 --> 0:56:25.719 him in the act, and so Benson goes, oh, so 0:56:25.840 --> 0:56:28.080 it's his idea, and now I have to talk to 0:56:28.160 --> 0:56:31.279 your fucking dad. And then yeah, so she has two 0:56:31.480 --> 0:56:35.080 cops members that went rogue, and but oh really, but 0:56:35.320 --> 0:56:36.960 Dodds is being like a stand up guy, I guess 0:56:37.040 --> 0:56:39.319 right now, And then Barba says some legal words, very 0:56:39.400 --> 0:56:42.479 very sassy, and creasy starts brainstorming like, okay, they can't 0:56:42.480 --> 0:56:44.439 talk to the cops with counsel, but what if while 0:56:44.440 --> 0:56:47.000 the cops are legally talking to them, they commit a crime. 0:56:47.400 --> 0:56:49.440 And Barbara goes, Okay, that would be fun for like 0:56:49.480 --> 0:56:52.160 a bar exam question, not real life, you fucking idiot. 0:56:52.640 --> 0:56:55.279 So then Daddy Dodds walks in and is like, oh, 0:56:55.320 --> 0:56:58.360 what are we talking about Rollin's antics? Last night Bobby 0:56:58.440 --> 0:57:00.279 called and said that she came on to him him 0:57:00.440 --> 0:57:03.680 and she screams, they try to rape me. Like why 0:57:03.760 --> 0:57:06.640 is coming onto someone or dating someone or thinking someone's 0:57:06.680 --> 0:57:08.960 hot is like an invite to get raped. It's like 0:57:09.080 --> 0:57:12.880 so strange, Like all of the quote unquote reasoning or 0:57:12.960 --> 0:57:16.919 logic that's used to discredit victims just makes no sense. Yeah, 0:57:16.920 --> 0:57:18.920 it's like you were a slut last year, so you 0:57:19.000 --> 0:57:20.080 must have wanted to be raped. 0:57:20.160 --> 0:57:21.360 Like I don't get that. I just don't. 0:57:21.400 --> 0:57:23.440 Yeah, yeah, it makes no sense to me, And I 0:57:23.440 --> 0:57:26.440 can't believe it's so valid and used in court, right 0:57:26.520 --> 0:57:26.959 right right. 0:57:27.200 --> 0:57:29.200 And then if you are like if it's a woman 0:57:29.200 --> 0:57:32.280 that has like done sexual like yeah, like had a 0:57:32.320 --> 0:57:34.760 threesome or something, then it's like not her first rodeo. 0:57:34.920 --> 0:57:38.360 She loves this stuff. She's open for double pen like whenever. 0:57:38.640 --> 0:57:42.240 You know, it's so weird. So Benson goes, but listen, 0:57:42.280 --> 0:57:43.400 this like looks fucking bad. 0:57:43.720 --> 0:57:45.760 So they start playing the tape and it's like watch 0:57:45.800 --> 0:57:46.800 the tape, motherfucker. 0:57:47.160 --> 0:57:48.440 He barely will watch it. 0:57:49.040 --> 0:57:51.240 And they're gonna try to talk to like more online 0:57:51.280 --> 0:57:53.840 girls and Christy and like see if people will testify 0:57:53.880 --> 0:57:56.680 and make something happen, and like take these guys to court, 0:57:56.920 --> 0:57:59.640 and he's like, make sure Chrissy's phone is off, and 0:57:59.760 --> 0:58:02.320 bar is so mean to her but also hot, but 0:58:02.400 --> 0:58:03.480 he tells her to sit down. 0:58:03.960 --> 0:58:05.600 She listens immediately. 0:58:05.760 --> 0:58:07.960 And she goes, oh, you're the DA who doesn't think 0:58:08.000 --> 0:58:11.120 my case is good enough. Huh. But he is reconsidering 0:58:11.160 --> 0:58:13.640 and he does want to help. She gives Benson attitude 0:58:13.640 --> 0:58:15.800 and Benson's like, I'm on your side. She looks at 0:58:15.840 --> 0:58:19.120 Barbara and says, well, he's not. And he goes, do 0:58:19.200 --> 0:58:21.560 you blame me? What kind of witness do you want 0:58:21.560 --> 0:58:23.760 to be? And she says, I've always told the truth. 0:58:24.080 --> 0:58:26.560 He goes seriously, and the only thing is she didn't 0:58:26.560 --> 0:58:28.400 say she made out with someone. Like again, it's like 0:58:29.160 --> 0:58:33.480 and if it negates it, it's it's so like pervasive, 0:58:33.800 --> 0:58:37.720 this like rape culture vibes like it's so fucking strange. 0:58:38.160 --> 0:58:39.840 She goes, why the fuck did you even bring me 0:58:39.920 --> 0:58:41.960 down here to tell me it's impossible. He's like, no, 0:58:42.040 --> 0:58:43.440 we brought you down here to show you what a 0:58:43.440 --> 0:58:45.080 taste of trial would look like. 0:58:45.080 --> 0:58:47.040 Like it's not everything's gonna be used against you. 0:58:47.560 --> 0:58:50.440 Everything looks bad, like everything, and it's like, well, what 0:58:50.520 --> 0:58:53.080 looks like the rape looks worse, but whatever, so her 0:58:53.080 --> 0:58:54.240 eyes are wet perfectly. 0:58:54.320 --> 0:58:55.160 She's a good actress. 0:58:55.200 --> 0:58:57.000 She goes, I didn't get raped so I could put 0:58:57.040 --> 0:58:59.600 it online, and she says, what those two did to 0:58:59.600 --> 0:59:01.280 me was the worst thing that ever happened to me. 0:59:01.360 --> 0:59:03.120 And I want to look them in the eyes and like, 0:59:03.160 --> 0:59:04.800 I want the jury to see what they did to me. 0:59:04.920 --> 0:59:07.880 Barbara likes that, so he nods it's happening. So now 0:59:07.880 --> 0:59:10.120 we're at a coffee car Benson and Creasy or chatting. 0:59:10.160 --> 0:59:12.480 He orders a Kaiser roll with butter and two coffees. 0:59:12.520 --> 0:59:14.800 I mean he orders that all the time. Oh really, 0:59:15.440 --> 0:59:16.400 I think that's his order. 0:59:16.440 --> 0:59:19.360 I believe that's what he's ordering at the diet at 0:59:19.360 --> 0:59:23.200 the deli. When the whole yuck deli like ugh, fucking 0:59:23.360 --> 0:59:26.720 hostage thing goes down, I feel like I remember because 0:59:26.760 --> 0:59:28.800 I used to eat those in high school, Like we 0:59:28.920 --> 0:59:31.040 used to have them. They would have pre buttered like 0:59:31.080 --> 0:59:33.560 buttered rolls at school that were Kaiser rolls with butter, 0:59:33.600 --> 0:59:35.560 and they were so fucking good. 0:59:36.080 --> 0:59:38.400 And whenever he orders it, I think about high school. 0:59:38.920 --> 0:59:40.600 So I think I think he's. 0:59:40.520 --> 0:59:41.200 Ordered it before. 0:59:42.840 --> 0:59:44.520 Yeah, but to me, is it like toasted or not, 0:59:44.600 --> 0:59:47.360 Like I love bread and butter, but it's so much bread. 0:59:47.400 --> 0:59:49.960 It's so fluffy, like without sandwich and meat and stuff, 0:59:50.000 --> 0:59:52.600 Like I get toasted because I'll get toasted bagel with butter, 0:59:52.720 --> 0:59:53.280 like I am not. 0:59:53.560 --> 0:59:54.680 I would get French bread with butter. 0:59:54.720 --> 0:59:57.160 I'd put a hol on butter sourdough like I'm for 0:59:57.360 --> 0:59:58.000 bread and butter. 0:59:58.400 --> 1:00:00.480 Kaiser rolls are just so giant. 1:00:01.400 --> 1:00:03.240 I think when I was in high school they were 1:00:03.320 --> 1:00:05.040 maybe they were scooped out a little bit. They just 1:00:05.120 --> 1:00:08.520 they seemed like flat and they were bread and butter, 1:00:08.640 --> 1:00:10.800 no toasting, and they were so good. 1:00:12.080 --> 1:00:14.480 I don't know. I'm like really having a craving for 1:00:14.520 --> 1:00:15.160 one right now. 1:00:17.040 --> 1:00:19.760 Okay, So I mean I have like eight lines about 1:00:19.760 --> 1:00:22.640 the bread and butter, like I have to scroll up 1:00:22.680 --> 1:00:26.600 my notes to get back to the storyline. He says, 1:00:26.720 --> 1:00:29.720 Dodd's and rawlins got your message, and she rolls her eyes, 1:00:29.720 --> 1:00:31.480 and I'm like, huh, what was the message? 1:00:31.720 --> 1:00:33.200 Like I didn't, I didn't get the message. 1:00:34.160 --> 1:00:36.440 And she says, listen, DoD's covered for her, but she 1:00:36.560 --> 1:00:37.640 did this all on her own. 1:00:37.680 --> 1:00:40.040 I'm not fucking stupid. I'm swearing a lot. 1:00:40.120 --> 1:00:41.560 I think I'm just like in a hyped up mood, 1:00:41.560 --> 1:00:43.720 and I do apologize if that's something you're not into, 1:00:44.560 --> 1:00:45.640 so sorry listening. 1:00:45.680 --> 1:00:47.520 No one's ever reported that, I don't think. 1:00:48.120 --> 1:00:50.240 And then Benson goes and guess what, she didn't say 1:00:50.240 --> 1:00:52.600 anything about it to me yet, and Crasy's like, well 1:00:52.600 --> 1:00:54.600 she told me, and she's really upset. She goes, oh 1:00:54.840 --> 1:00:56.960 did she she knew you would fucking tell me? And 1:00:57.000 --> 1:00:59.440 Benson goes and I don't like little triangles, so you 1:00:59.480 --> 1:01:02.080 tell her it's talk to me. So now we're in Core. 1:01:02.280 --> 1:01:05.800 We're watching footage. Dodds is chatting with Barbara. But now 1:01:05.840 --> 1:01:09.160 it's Buchanan's turn, and it's Core. It's back and forth, 1:01:09.200 --> 1:01:11.439 you know what's up. It's like, nothing's too crazy. It's 1:01:11.440 --> 1:01:13.920 like your girl's a liar. She's not credible, you know. 1:01:14.000 --> 1:01:16.040 And then the two guys are sharing a lawyer. Obviously 1:01:16.040 --> 1:01:19.440 they're like raping together, but it's not always too smart. 1:01:20.320 --> 1:01:22.960 And then Buchanan turns to the jurying and like does 1:01:23.080 --> 1:01:26.439 jazz hands and goes, oh, I can't wait to see 1:01:26.480 --> 1:01:29.880 what stories she tells on the stand. Barbara objects and 1:01:29.920 --> 1:01:32.480 he's like, Judge, can you remind counsel that sarcasm is 1:01:32.480 --> 1:01:37.600 the weapon of the week, and she tells it's. 1:01:37.440 --> 1:01:40.400 Like such nerdy, like insult. 1:01:40.840 --> 1:01:43.280 She tells both men to chill out and like sustains 1:01:43.320 --> 1:01:44.280 the objection. 1:01:45.040 --> 1:01:46.760 So now the girl's on the stand. 1:01:46.800 --> 1:01:49.800 She explains what happens, but now it's Buchanan's turn, so 1:01:49.920 --> 1:01:54.040 that sucks. And again with the sarcasm, he goes, wait, 1:01:54.120 --> 1:01:56.080 you lie to the cops because you thought the rape 1:01:56.200 --> 1:01:59.160 was your fault. It's like that happens off it, yes, 1:01:59.680 --> 1:02:02.400 And it's like, yeah, hello, rape culture and you perpetuated 1:02:02.440 --> 1:02:05.720 all the time you can And judge is like, get 1:02:05.760 --> 1:02:08.560 to business, and he pulls up her website and it's 1:02:08.640 --> 1:02:11.200 like partying and fun with friends and he's like so 1:02:11.280 --> 1:02:13.720 and it's like, what's again, prom He keeps showing photos 1:02:13.720 --> 1:02:15.959 from earlier in the night, being like you were having fun, 1:02:16.200 --> 1:02:18.040 you were having fun, and she goes, well, yeah, I 1:02:18.040 --> 1:02:19.840 didn't know I was about to be raped. And then 1:02:19.840 --> 1:02:22.280 he brings up vlogs to poke holes and Barba stands 1:02:22.320 --> 1:02:24.280 up and it's like, okay, we already know she's inconsistent 1:02:24.280 --> 1:02:24.959 and lied to the cops. 1:02:24.960 --> 1:02:25.800 Can you leave her alone? 1:02:26.160 --> 1:02:27.680 And the judge You're like, no, I'm gonna allow this, 1:02:27.960 --> 1:02:31.480 and so He claims that she's doing this all for views, 1:02:31.600 --> 1:02:34.000 and he wants to prove the motive. She went from 1:02:34.040 --> 1:02:37.200 eight hundred views to nineteen thousand, cry rape and your 1:02:37.280 --> 1:02:39.360 numbers go up, and she's about to speak, but he 1:02:39.400 --> 1:02:41.520 cuts in and then shows the other video where she 1:02:41.640 --> 1:02:44.000 names names and that has four hundred and eleven thousand 1:02:44.040 --> 1:02:47.760 plus LIGs, and so he goes, it's pay by click, right, 1:02:47.800 --> 1:02:49.720 and she goes, no way, that's not why I did it. 1:02:50.000 --> 1:02:51.760 She wanted people to know what happened to her, and 1:02:51.800 --> 1:02:54.040 she wanted to leave it up, even if the cops 1:02:54.120 --> 1:02:56.560 asked her to take it down. And she's like getting 1:02:56.600 --> 1:02:59.120 super upset, and he repeats the same stuff about Nat 1:02:59.200 --> 1:03:01.280 naming Bobby right, and Barbara again has to be like, 1:03:01.320 --> 1:03:04.080 you're badgering, and the judge goes, yeah, Buchan, and move 1:03:04.080 --> 1:03:06.320 it along. So then, of course we knew it was 1:03:06.360 --> 1:03:09.040 gonna be brought up that she kept having fun at 1:03:09.080 --> 1:03:11.479 the bar, and he scoffs at this, and she says 1:03:11.480 --> 1:03:13.520 the same thing about not wanting to upset her friend, 1:03:13.800 --> 1:03:17.120 and he's like, look, you're dancing, you're drinking, and this 1:03:17.280 --> 1:03:19.160 is when you knew you were raped or did you 1:03:19.200 --> 1:03:23.000 know you had another fun story for your blog. Barbara objects, 1:03:23.040 --> 1:03:25.400 Buchanan withdraws, but it's like, go fuck yourself. 1:03:25.480 --> 1:03:27.760 So then you were having fun upstairs. 1:03:27.880 --> 1:03:30.000 You're having fun in the hallway, the dance floor, and 1:03:30.000 --> 1:03:31.960 the only time you claim you weren't having fun is 1:03:31.960 --> 1:03:34.080 that ten minute gap when there wasn't recording. 1:03:34.120 --> 1:03:36.760 And it's like, well, yeah, they knew where to rape her. 1:03:36.920 --> 1:03:39.360 That's where the rape happened, and honestly proves the rape 1:03:39.360 --> 1:03:42.880 if anything. So she's crying and it's like, yeah, it's 1:03:42.920 --> 1:03:45.080 their bar why would they rape in an open place? 1:03:45.160 --> 1:03:49.640 So she's openly weeping. Barbara looks pissed, Buchanan looks smug, 1:03:49.760 --> 1:03:52.440 Rollin's and Benson look frustrated. And now we have another 1:03:52.520 --> 1:03:56.040 rain walk and talk up the court stairs. Umbrellas are 1:03:56.040 --> 1:03:59.160 out Barbara and Benson, and she says, damn, that was brutal, 1:03:59.600 --> 1:04:01.720 and he's as well. She wanted her day in court. 1:04:01.880 --> 1:04:03.480 And now it's time for the men to go up. 1:04:03.800 --> 1:04:06.520 Barbara says, you know, to know them is to loathe them. 1:04:06.640 --> 1:04:09.520 He was up all night prepping and like he's about 1:04:09.520 --> 1:04:11.960 to get them, but he's like, I'm going to trick 1:04:12.000 --> 1:04:14.240 them into getting the judge to let me use Rollin's 1:04:14.320 --> 1:04:16.720 video to impeach them. They don't know it yet, but 1:04:16.760 --> 1:04:19.240 it's their last dance, he says. So now we're back 1:04:19.240 --> 1:04:21.800 in court and Buchanan has two witnesses and it's just 1:04:21.840 --> 1:04:23.520 the two guys, but he's like, actually, I don't want 1:04:23.520 --> 1:04:24.080 to bring them up. 1:04:24.400 --> 1:04:25.880 The prosecution failed. 1:04:26.120 --> 1:04:28.160 He goes, there's a lot of reasonable doubts and the 1:04:28.200 --> 1:04:31.840 defense isn't going to call any witnesses at all, And 1:04:31.880 --> 1:04:34.480 he's like, I feel chilling leaving it in the jury's hands. 1:04:34.720 --> 1:04:37.240 So he can't call them because you know, you can't 1:04:37.240 --> 1:04:39.920 force someone to like incriminate themselves. 1:04:40.000 --> 1:04:42.160 Like I didn't know that this could happen. So if the. 1:04:42.080 --> 1:04:44.080 Defense is like if they don't want to testify, they don't, 1:04:44.120 --> 1:04:44.800 and then Barbara. 1:04:44.600 --> 1:04:45.240 Can't get at that. 1:04:45.400 --> 1:04:47.200 I don't even know how Barbara was going to trick 1:04:47.320 --> 1:04:50.280 them into letting the video in, Like if the video 1:04:50.400 --> 1:04:54.560 is not allowed, like the video seems pretty like an 1:04:54.760 --> 1:05:00.120 un sanctioned cop undercover. Like op, yes, the video it 1:05:00.240 --> 1:05:01.720 was bad, but like I don't know how that would 1:05:01.720 --> 1:05:03.400 be let in at any moment. 1:05:03.680 --> 1:05:05.439 Yeah, you know, so. 1:05:05.560 --> 1:05:07.000 I don't I don't know how he's going to trick them, 1:05:07.000 --> 1:05:11.920 maybe like bringing it up, but you can't. It's not 1:05:12.040 --> 1:05:13.680 dumb like he would object. I don't know, I don't 1:05:13.720 --> 1:05:19.000 really understand. I don't understand this part really, So Barbara's 1:05:19.000 --> 1:05:21.160 panics outside the courtroom creasy because this, to me, is 1:05:21.200 --> 1:05:23.480 the only reason they would have even brought this to trial. 1:05:23.720 --> 1:05:26.120 Nothing has changed about this from the beginning when they 1:05:26.120 --> 1:05:28.520 said we will not prosecute. The only thing that's happened 1:05:28.560 --> 1:05:30.400 is that another girl came forward who said I cannot 1:05:30.400 --> 1:05:32.760 do it. I can't I will not testify, and then 1:05:33.000 --> 1:05:35.720 the Rawlins thing, which can't be used. So what is 1:05:35.720 --> 1:05:37.560 happening now that we are actually in court? 1:05:38.400 --> 1:05:38.600 You know? 1:05:39.000 --> 1:05:41.440 Yeah? And the only thing the reason. 1:05:41.280 --> 1:05:42.880 I could see Barbara wanting them to go to court 1:05:42.920 --> 1:05:44.520 is he could do this little trick, and then the 1:05:44.520 --> 1:05:48.680 trick can't happen because they don't testify. Yeah, Criesy approaches 1:05:48.720 --> 1:05:50.840 Barbara in the hall and they're like, damn, she's the 1:05:50.880 --> 1:05:54.919 worst victim ever. It's like she's just stopped talking shit 1:05:55.480 --> 1:05:57.600 and we and we know she's not lying because we 1:05:57.640 --> 1:05:58.920 saw what they did to Rollins. 1:05:58.960 --> 1:06:00.680 And Cresey goes, this is worth the fight. 1:06:01.360 --> 1:06:03.520 He says, Hey, just so you also know I took 1:06:03.560 --> 1:06:06.040 the bar last weekend, and Barbara goes, good for you. 1:06:06.680 --> 1:06:08.480 He says, listen, you've been hard on me, but I 1:06:08.520 --> 1:06:10.120 want you to know that if I did pass the bar, 1:06:10.160 --> 1:06:12.040 its because of the time I spent working with you, 1:06:12.120 --> 1:06:16.000 and I admire you. I do love Creesy so much. 1:06:16.480 --> 1:06:19.360 Benson comes out of the elevators, hair a mess, phone 1:06:19.360 --> 1:06:22.600 in hand. She's like, the jury is back already. Creasy's 1:06:22.640 --> 1:06:24.919 like they just sat down, and Barbara goes, I doubt 1:06:24.960 --> 1:06:28.400 they even sat down. That's good writing. That's good writing. 1:06:28.480 --> 1:06:30.760 I love this scene. So now we're back in court. 1:06:31.520 --> 1:06:35.160 Verdicts not guilty. Obviously, she's stunned, but like not, it's 1:06:35.360 --> 1:06:36.480 none of this is surprising. 1:06:36.760 --> 1:06:37.840 Benson's in anguish. 1:06:38.040 --> 1:06:41.560 Barbara is thinking Dodds is upset but also plotting, and 1:06:41.600 --> 1:06:44.280 he watches the two guys walk out. Christy says she's 1:06:44.320 --> 1:06:47.520 a national joke and nobody will ever believe me. Rollin 1:06:47.560 --> 1:06:49.840 stops her and goes, I know exactly what those guys 1:06:49.840 --> 1:06:51.800 did to you, and she goes, well, nobody else whill 1:06:52.200 --> 1:06:55.480 Then bam, it's New York One news Hell. Yeah, an exclusive. 1:06:55.520 --> 1:06:58.560 They're playing the tape with Rollin's I'm fist bumping. I 1:06:58.560 --> 1:06:59.080 know it's silent. 1:06:59.240 --> 1:06:59.800 That's what I'm like. 1:07:00.720 --> 1:07:04.040 So fuck yes the court of public opinion, bitch. And 1:07:04.040 --> 1:07:07.400 that's why it's important to talk shit, spread news, show stuff, 1:07:07.520 --> 1:07:10.840 get online because justice simps is a failure. So the 1:07:10.960 --> 1:07:13.000 reporter is talking about how the judge didn't let the 1:07:13.080 --> 1:07:15.440 video in but they have the exclusive on the tape, 1:07:15.480 --> 1:07:18.400 and then we see Dodd's Careese Rollins watching it. Benson 1:07:18.440 --> 1:07:21.480 walks in and grabs the remote. Cariste goes, wow, talk 1:07:21.520 --> 1:07:23.960 about a waterloo? Did I look up the reference? No? 1:07:24.160 --> 1:07:27.200 Do I know? It's an Abba song? Yeah? And Napoleon reference. 1:07:27.320 --> 1:07:32.479 Oh come on, stop creasy go. I do love that song. 1:07:32.600 --> 1:07:34.120 That is one of ABBA's best songs. 1:07:34.440 --> 1:07:36.880 Carisy goes bye bye Netflix, and Dodds is like, oh, 1:07:36.920 --> 1:07:39.400 we'll see about that, and Chrisey goes, come on, he's toast. 1:07:39.760 --> 1:07:44.640 Benson coldly tells Rollins my office, please, So the battle 1:07:44.680 --> 1:07:47.120 of the amazing hair begins. She says, I swear to 1:07:47.160 --> 1:07:49.280 God live I didn't liak the video. Benson snaps, Oh'm 1:07:49.280 --> 1:07:52.080 supposed to believe you. Now you want undercover without informing me. 1:07:52.200 --> 1:07:54.840 This is another example of you asking for forgiveness instead 1:07:54.840 --> 1:07:58.160 of asking for permission. She starts stuttering to say something back. 1:07:58.240 --> 1:08:00.760 She's like, I'm not asking for forgiveness because I didn't 1:08:00.760 --> 1:08:03.640 do anything. Benson says, please stop as she walks back 1:08:03.680 --> 1:08:07.360 to her desk. She's like, Defense Judge Barba, lots of 1:08:07.360 --> 1:08:10.080 these people had access to that video. Dozens of people 1:08:10.080 --> 1:08:12.000 could have done it. Benson goes, well, we know the 1:08:12.040 --> 1:08:14.080 defense didn't do it, so you're really telling me that 1:08:14.120 --> 1:08:14.800 Barbara did it. 1:08:14.840 --> 1:08:15.960 Is that what you want to say to me? 1:08:16.560 --> 1:08:18.559 And she goes, well, it wasn't me, and Benson goes, 1:08:19.240 --> 1:08:21.439 I thought things would change after you had Jesse, and 1:08:21.479 --> 1:08:22.719 you would think before you acted. 1:08:23.000 --> 1:08:26.400 Rollins is stunned. She's getting bullied all day. 1:08:26.800 --> 1:08:28.840 Benson says, I was trying to get over my trust 1:08:28.920 --> 1:08:32.320 issues with you, and now this. Rollins responds, I swear 1:08:32.520 --> 1:08:35.240 on my baby girl, which on Real Housewives rules means 1:08:35.280 --> 1:08:40.120 you're lying. You never swear on your parents' graves. Yeah, 1:08:40.400 --> 1:08:42.880 she again says it wasn't her. Benson goes, you know what, 1:08:43.280 --> 1:08:45.240 there's going to be a full investigation. They're going to 1:08:45.320 --> 1:08:47.400 go through your phone and computer, and she goes that's fine, 1:08:47.439 --> 1:08:49.679 and then Benson says Buchanan is going to do a lawsuit, 1:08:49.720 --> 1:08:51.120 and Rollins is so puzzled. 1:08:51.479 --> 1:08:54.120 She's like, you think Bobby's going to want to sue? Baby? 1:08:54.200 --> 1:08:56.439 Dodds is a knock knock, knocked door. His tie is loose, 1:08:56.479 --> 1:08:58.360 so I think he's had a day. And then she 1:08:58.439 --> 1:09:00.840 kicks Rollins out of the office to let him. She says, 1:09:00.920 --> 1:09:03.599 we're done here, So then Dods closes the door, and 1:09:03.680 --> 1:09:06.960 she says, Rollin's just stood here and lied to my face, 1:09:07.400 --> 1:09:09.800 and dodd says, well, I believe her because I know 1:09:09.840 --> 1:09:10.400 who did it. 1:09:10.720 --> 1:09:12.759 He says, don't worry. It can't be traced. 1:09:13.160 --> 1:09:15.360 Benson's like, oh my god, she is such a good 1:09:15.400 --> 1:09:17.320 actress here if you want to watch why, She's like 1:09:17.400 --> 1:09:21.880 the fucking best is that forty one forty ish? It's masterclass, 1:09:21.920 --> 1:09:24.080 Like it's so good. She leans in and asks, what 1:09:24.120 --> 1:09:26.120 are you telling me? And he responds he doesn't want 1:09:26.120 --> 1:09:27.920 to put her between him and his father, so she 1:09:27.960 --> 1:09:29.600 needs to stop asking questions. 1:09:30.120 --> 1:09:30.879 She's stunned. 1:09:30.920 --> 1:09:34.799 She leans back and says, okay, Bobby got what he deserved. 1:09:35.040 --> 1:09:37.800 Dodd says and walks out. Told you I never liked 1:09:37.840 --> 1:09:41.560 the guy, he says, and then Benson so many emotions, 1:09:41.600 --> 1:09:46.240 like so like chilling performance my like my yeah, love 1:09:46.240 --> 1:09:51.120 it Dick Wolf, Baby, I have full chills. Baby Dodds, 1:09:51.200 --> 1:09:53.400 I mean they're setting us up to love baby Dodds 1:09:53.439 --> 1:09:55.440 and then we lose him in like eight episodes. 1:09:55.560 --> 1:09:56.120 She's dead. 1:10:03.800 --> 1:10:07.720 So okay, let's go on to the true crime that 1:10:07.720 --> 1:10:10.639 these are based on. Now, one of the true crimes 1:10:10.680 --> 1:10:14.439 this is based on are the rape allegations against Anthony 1:10:14.479 --> 1:10:19.400 Anderson and an universe. Yes, Anthony Anderson is an actor 1:10:19.400 --> 1:10:22.519 who was charged with who Well, first of all, Anthony 1:10:22.560 --> 1:10:24.120 Anderson is an actor. 1:10:24.160 --> 1:10:24.600 We all know. 1:10:24.720 --> 1:10:28.320 He was on an episode of SBU, the episode Fat 1:10:28.360 --> 1:10:31.960 where he worked with he worked with Stabler and his 1:10:32.040 --> 1:10:35.160 name was like Lucius Blaine or something like that, and 1:10:35.240 --> 1:10:37.920 then he but like he went on to be the 1:10:37.960 --> 1:10:41.240 star of Blackish and a regular on Law and Orders 1:10:41.520 --> 1:10:42.320 for three seasons. 1:10:42.360 --> 1:10:44.120 He was on like the last two seasons of Law 1:10:44.120 --> 1:10:44.679 and Order. 1:10:44.520 --> 1:10:47.120 And then he came back to it in twenty twenty 1:10:47.120 --> 1:10:51.240 two when they brought it back. But at this point, 1:10:51.400 --> 1:10:53.760 he is charged with aggravated rape on July twenty eight, 1:10:53.840 --> 1:10:56.479 two thousand and four, after a woman said he assaulted 1:10:56.479 --> 1:10:58.960 her on a movie set in Memphis. Tennessee when he 1:10:59.040 --> 1:11:01.559 was thirty three at the time, So a lot of 1:11:01.760 --> 1:11:03.600 all of the accomplishments that we know him for, we 1:11:03.640 --> 1:11:06.920 don't really know of him at the time of this allegation. 1:11:07.400 --> 1:11:09.559 He was like in the movie Barber Shop. He was 1:11:09.600 --> 1:11:11.559 in Memphis. The movie he was shooting in Memphis was 1:11:11.560 --> 1:11:12.439 called Hustle and Flow. 1:11:12.760 --> 1:11:13.519 We know that movie. 1:11:14.520 --> 1:11:18.719 And he at the time was also in a show 1:11:18.800 --> 1:11:21.479 where the main character is named Anthony Anderson and is 1:11:21.520 --> 1:11:23.400 called All About the Anderson. So it's one of those 1:11:23.520 --> 1:11:26.639 like Drew Carey show type things where it's like a sitcom, 1:11:26.640 --> 1:11:29.800 a fictional sitcom starring the star and he has his 1:11:29.840 --> 1:11:31.880 own name, but it's like not his real life so 1:11:33.280 --> 1:11:34.360 or not fully real life. 1:11:35.240 --> 1:11:38.639 And so he was shooting Hustle and Flow. A guy 1:11:38.720 --> 1:11:41.519 named Wayne Witherspoon, aged forty two, was on the crew 1:11:41.520 --> 1:11:44.400 of Hustle and Flow and was also arrested with Anderson 1:11:44.439 --> 1:11:47.160 in connection to the crime. Apparently I didn't know there 1:11:47.160 --> 1:11:51.439 was an arrest. Yes, So apparently they had been shooting 1:11:51.479 --> 1:11:54.320 at the Shelby County Correctional Center, which is a quote 1:11:54.360 --> 1:11:58.839 unquote work farm for jail inmates, and after production wrapped 1:11:58.840 --> 1:12:01.679 for the day, I guess the alleged assault occurred there 1:12:02.720 --> 1:12:04.439 the victim in a trailer. 1:12:04.479 --> 1:12:05.479 I believe in a trailer. 1:12:06.200 --> 1:12:09.120 The victim was an extra, and she told authorities that 1:12:09.160 --> 1:12:12.400 she was quote unquote lured into a production trailer by 1:12:12.600 --> 1:12:16.240 Witherspoon where Anderson was already waiting, and that that they 1:12:16.280 --> 1:12:17.559 both sexually assaulted her. 1:12:18.880 --> 1:12:23.880 Witness quote witnesses reported, I didn't realize this. Well, listen, 1:12:24.200 --> 1:12:25.679 I okay, okay, sorry sorry. 1:12:25.800 --> 1:12:29.600 Quote Witnesses reported seeing the woman leave the trailer screaming 1:12:29.800 --> 1:12:33.679 and without her clothes end quote. And this was Steve Schuler, 1:12:33.760 --> 1:12:36.200 Shelby County Sheriff's Department public affairs officer. 1:12:36.240 --> 1:12:38.920 This is what he told CNN. The woman was taken 1:12:38.920 --> 1:12:43.080 to a hospital. Anderson's people released a statement saying, he 1:12:43.200 --> 1:12:45.920 quote absolutely denies the heinous charges that have been made 1:12:45.960 --> 1:12:48.720 against him. Anthony is a happily married family man who 1:12:48.720 --> 1:12:51.080 has never been accused of, no less involved in anything 1:12:51.120 --> 1:12:53.479 mutely like this, and we are confident that when all 1:12:53.520 --> 1:12:55.560 the facts come out, he will be completely exonerated. 1:12:56.000 --> 1:12:56.639 End quote. 1:12:57.080 --> 1:13:00.479 So when this woman, this woman then had like a 1:13:00.520 --> 1:13:04.599 deposition interview with a judge, and she actually, in this 1:13:04.800 --> 1:13:08.360 deposition admitted to having sex with both men for several 1:13:08.439 --> 1:13:11.120 days leading up to the attack, but she told the 1:13:11.200 --> 1:13:13.280 judge that those instances were forced as. 1:13:13.120 --> 1:13:15.040 Well, but she never reported them. 1:13:15.360 --> 1:13:18.320 So I don't know why the obviously I know why 1:13:18.360 --> 1:13:20.679 because of like rape culture, but like the literature says 1:13:20.680 --> 1:13:22.360 like she was having sex with these guys, not that 1:13:22.640 --> 1:13:26.599 he was, that they were alleged attacks. Then, the judge 1:13:26.680 --> 1:13:29.760 named Anthony Johnson said that the woman's testimony at a 1:13:29.760 --> 1:13:33.519 preliminary hearing was some of the most quote incredulous he 1:13:33.560 --> 1:13:36.360 had ever heard and did not produce probable cause to 1:13:36.439 --> 1:13:39.639 let the charges stand. He dismissed the charges against both 1:13:39.680 --> 1:13:43.560 men on October six, two thousand and four. And apparently 1:13:43.640 --> 1:13:47.720 also something I read was like she told her boyfriend, 1:13:48.560 --> 1:13:50.559 I'm gonna take these guys to the cleaners. 1:13:50.560 --> 1:13:52.439 I'm gonna take this actor to the cleaners. I mean, 1:13:52.439 --> 1:13:52.760 at the. 1:13:52.720 --> 1:13:57.040 Time, he's in his own sitcom. It only lasted like 1:13:57.120 --> 1:14:00.639 one season. He's not the biggest guy that you could 1:14:00.680 --> 1:14:03.160 take for a ride. But that's I mean, I think 1:14:03.200 --> 1:14:05.040 a little bit of that is in the episode. Obviously 1:14:05.400 --> 1:14:09.720 looking for a payday, blah blah blah. But then in 1:14:09.760 --> 1:14:13.000 September of two thousand and four, Anderson faced a second 1:14:13.000 --> 1:14:15.120 accusation of sexual assault from a woman who was suing 1:14:15.160 --> 1:14:17.760 him for nine hundred thousand dollars, claiming that he made 1:14:17.800 --> 1:14:21.479 sexually suggestive comments and assaulted her in his dressing room 1:14:21.600 --> 1:14:23.880 on the Doubt set of the wb sitcom All About 1:14:23.880 --> 1:14:27.080 the Andersons in two thousand and three. But at the time, 1:14:27.479 --> 1:14:31.920 Anthony anderson spokesperson said that the first case had made 1:14:32.000 --> 1:14:33.960 him a target and that the second case was all 1:14:34.000 --> 1:14:36.200 about piling on and like trying to get paid. 1:14:37.040 --> 1:14:38.400 So according to this. 1:14:38.479 --> 1:14:41.800 Yahoo article I read, the outcome of that case is unknown, 1:14:41.920 --> 1:14:44.200 so I don't think that she won the nine hundred 1:14:44.240 --> 1:14:45.639 care Maybe she dropped her suit. 1:14:45.720 --> 1:14:49.559 After the first case was dismissed, the charges were. 1:14:49.400 --> 1:14:54.000 Dismissed, and then he was accused again in twenty eighteen, 1:14:54.200 --> 1:14:57.360 but the woman refused to be interviewed after filing the report, 1:14:57.400 --> 1:15:00.880 so the case didn't go anywhere. So so to me, 1:15:01.160 --> 1:15:04.880 that's like a little bit where the beginning where like 1:15:04.960 --> 1:15:07.599 some of it is like the tag team of it, 1:15:07.720 --> 1:15:10.320 like the two friends in the episode. 1:15:10.680 --> 1:15:13.360 But most of the Internet says. 1:15:13.120 --> 1:15:16.240 That this episode is based on Bill Cosby and his 1:15:16.600 --> 1:15:20.800 sexual assault cases and his crimes are so numerous and 1:15:20.880 --> 1:15:24.479 extensive that they have their own Wikipedia page. So rather 1:15:24.520 --> 1:15:27.360 than just being a section of the Bill Cosby Wikipedia page, 1:15:27.920 --> 1:15:33.600 Bill Cosby's sexual assault accusations are their own page on Wikipedia, 1:15:33.640 --> 1:15:36.880 which is saying something and it's a very long entry. 1:15:37.280 --> 1:15:41.680 So I didn't realize this, but there were multiple allegations 1:15:41.680 --> 1:15:44.520 against Bill Cosby going back as far as the nineteen sixties. 1:15:44.560 --> 1:15:46.439 I didn't realize they went back that far, dude. 1:15:46.479 --> 1:15:50.120 I actually just met like an old timey actress yesterday 1:15:50.200 --> 1:15:53.479 night and like did lattens of sitcoms. She was on 1:15:53.600 --> 1:15:57.679 Dallas and like The Love Bow and all these things, 1:15:57.760 --> 1:16:00.719 and we were just asking questions and said the worst 1:16:00.760 --> 1:16:03.040 experience she's ever had on set was with on The 1:16:03.040 --> 1:16:06.599 Cosby Show, and it wasn't like sexual in any way, 1:16:06.640 --> 1:16:08.600 but that he was awful to everyone. 1:16:08.840 --> 1:16:11.160 Obviously the rape is worse, but like this just came 1:16:11.240 --> 1:16:14.960 up yesterday for me. Wow, damn. 1:16:16.120 --> 1:16:19.640 Well, yeah, there's a bad guy in there, you know, 1:16:19.760 --> 1:16:20.920 like he's always been that way. 1:16:21.000 --> 1:16:23.040 I mean, this goes back to the sixties. Also, I 1:16:23.080 --> 1:16:24.920 just want to say about the Anthony Anderson one. 1:16:26.160 --> 1:16:29.920 I think it's very possible too that this woman was 1:16:29.960 --> 1:16:36.240 assaulted multiple times by these two men, and just but 1:16:36.360 --> 1:16:38.639 I mean, I don't know, Like there's this thing about 1:16:38.640 --> 1:16:40.519 seeing her telling her boyfriend she's gonna try to do 1:16:40.560 --> 1:16:43.120 it for the money. But then also people heard her 1:16:43.200 --> 1:16:44.799 screaming and running out of a trailer. 1:16:44.840 --> 1:16:45.639 I mean, she's an extra. 1:16:45.640 --> 1:16:47.000 I don't know how great of an actress she is 1:16:47.000 --> 1:16:49.519 if she's gonna fully run out of a trailer, screaming 1:16:49.560 --> 1:16:52.639 and make up a full story after having consensual sex. 1:16:52.720 --> 1:16:56.519 But you know, so back to Bill Cosby, there are 1:16:56.600 --> 1:16:59.800 multiple allegations going against him, going back as far as 1:16:59.840 --> 1:17:04.840 the sixties, but victims either didn't report or they told reporters, 1:17:05.360 --> 1:17:07.679 and the victims would disclose to these reporters who would 1:17:07.680 --> 1:17:09.040 then never publish the story. 1:17:09.439 --> 1:17:10.960 And these were just like the times, right. 1:17:11.000 --> 1:17:13.360 There was not like a Ronan pharaoh who was going 1:17:13.400 --> 1:17:16.640 to like research your story about the abuse of the powerful. 1:17:16.680 --> 1:17:18.560 And there was no like Olivia Benson to fight for you, 1:17:18.640 --> 1:17:19.200 even though I. 1:17:19.160 --> 1:17:19.920 Know she's not real. 1:17:20.320 --> 1:17:23.120 So like I think a lot of women were just like, oh, yeah, 1:17:23.160 --> 1:17:25.880 he's a big star and I'm nothing's gonna come with it. 1:17:26.520 --> 1:17:29.519 So then in on February first of two thousand, a 1:17:29.520 --> 1:17:33.600 criminal complaint is filed by Lachelle Covington, who's twenty, alleging 1:17:34.040 --> 1:17:36.960 that days earlier, in January twenty eighth, he tried to 1:17:36.960 --> 1:17:38.920 put her hands down his pants, tried to put his 1:17:39.240 --> 1:17:41.880 hands down her pants, grabbed her breast, exposed himself to 1:17:41.920 --> 1:17:43.559 her at his townhouse in Manhattan. 1:17:44.120 --> 1:17:45.000 Cosby denied it. 1:17:45.080 --> 1:17:48.120 The DA declined to try the case, which I feel 1:17:48.120 --> 1:17:50.960 like is also you know in the episode, they're just like, well, 1:17:51.000 --> 1:17:54.240 we can't make a case. January of two thousand and four, 1:17:54.479 --> 1:17:58.879 Andrea Constand and she's probably the most well known Cosby accuser. 1:18:00.040 --> 1:18:03.960 He accused Cosby of drugging and fondling her, and in 1:18:04.080 --> 1:18:07.360 February of two thousand and five Montgomery County, Pennsylvania, because 1:18:07.360 --> 1:18:10.040 it happened at a home of his in Pennsylvania, the 1:18:10.560 --> 1:18:16.360 Montgomery County DA said insufficient credible and admissible evidence existed 1:18:16.400 --> 1:18:18.679 and so they weren't going to try it. She did 1:18:18.720 --> 1:18:21.160 sue him in civil court and he settled with her, 1:18:21.600 --> 1:18:25.120 and they had a confidentiality agreement that they both signed. 1:18:25.120 --> 1:18:26.519 As part of that civil case. 1:18:26.560 --> 1:18:30.000 I believe in July two thousand and five, Beth Farrier, 1:18:30.080 --> 1:18:34.160 who had testified anonymously in Constance's case, told Philadelphia Daily 1:18:34.200 --> 1:18:37.200 News that Cosby had dosed her coffee and she woke 1:18:37.320 --> 1:18:40.599 up with some of her clothes off in nineteen eighty four. 1:18:41.240 --> 1:18:45.040 So then in two thousand and five, Sean Upshaw Brown, 1:18:45.160 --> 1:18:47.519 who Cosby admitted to having an extra marital affair with 1:18:48.320 --> 1:18:51.760 in the seventies, told the National Inquirer. And again, that's 1:18:51.800 --> 1:18:56.200 not the most reliable publication. But they're very like known 1:18:56.280 --> 1:18:59.960 for like a bat boy. Yes, they're known for, like yeah, exactly, 1:19:00.360 --> 1:19:04.880 full bat boy. Not it's full tabloid grocery store aisle. 1:19:05.040 --> 1:19:06.479 I never even see it anymore. I wonder if it's 1:19:06.479 --> 1:19:07.200 still getting published. 1:19:07.960 --> 1:19:11.040 And said that he drugged her and raped her the 1:19:11.120 --> 1:19:13.200 last two times they've been together. So even though they 1:19:13.200 --> 1:19:15.519 had been together having an affair for years, the last 1:19:15.520 --> 1:19:18.280 two times they were together, she says he raped her 1:19:18.320 --> 1:19:21.200 and drugged her. So then June ninth of two thousand 1:19:21.200 --> 1:19:25.080 and six, Robert Huber writes a piece in Philadelphia Magazine 1:19:25.120 --> 1:19:30.320 called Doctor Huxtable and Mister Hyde that detailed Constant's allegations 1:19:30.840 --> 1:19:32.559 the allegations of other people who claim to have been 1:19:32.640 --> 1:19:36.599 drugged and assaulted by Cosby. And it's like It's never like, oh, 1:19:36.640 --> 1:19:38.800 we met at this event and then it happened in 1:19:38.840 --> 1:19:41.320 a car. It's always like they're at his house, he 1:19:41.360 --> 1:19:43.800 gives them something to drink, like, it's always the same 1:19:43.840 --> 1:19:46.439 fucking thing. Right, he's got an m O. Much like 1:19:46.479 --> 1:19:49.360 these guys in this episode. Even though Cosby is working alone. 1:19:49.520 --> 1:19:53.080 As much as far as I can tell, Barbara Bowman, 1:19:54.160 --> 1:19:54.880 what is alone? 1:19:54.960 --> 1:19:57.040 It's like at the end of the day, Daddy Dodds 1:19:57.200 --> 1:19:59.080 was help it, Like, right, who's alone? 1:19:59.200 --> 1:20:00.800 Everyone on that set knew what was up. 1:20:00.840 --> 1:20:02.439 Like if you were a young actress that had a 1:20:02.479 --> 1:20:04.400 guest star, people would be like, don't go alone into 1:20:04.479 --> 1:20:04.920 his room. 1:20:05.040 --> 1:20:07.160 Don't be like everyone fucking. 1:20:06.880 --> 1:20:13.160 Yeah, yeah, totally like a badly kept secret. Barbara Bowman 1:20:13.439 --> 1:20:16.320 is featured in this Philadelphia magazine article, and she becomes 1:20:16.320 --> 1:20:19.360 one of his most outspoken because she was She was 1:20:19.400 --> 1:20:22.320 claimed to have been assaulted by Cosby twice in nineteen 1:20:22.360 --> 1:20:25.599 eighty six. She had been an aspiring model slash actress. 1:20:26.000 --> 1:20:29.000 Cosby befriended her when she was young, became her mentor, 1:20:29.520 --> 1:20:32.759 and then as she was she thought. Once she turned eighteen, 1:20:33.360 --> 1:20:35.760 he allegedly drugged and raped her at his home in 1:20:35.800 --> 1:20:38.240 New York and then after he tried to assault her 1:20:38.240 --> 1:20:41.519 again in Atlantic City, she fought him off, after which 1:20:41.560 --> 1:20:44.920 he purposely tanked her career. According to her, that takes 1:20:44.960 --> 1:20:49.280 us up to the mid to teens. Okay, like twenty fourteen. 1:20:49.680 --> 1:20:51.719 He's been assaulting people at this point for like. 1:20:51.680 --> 1:20:55.600 Fifty years, but only about the last ten years. Have 1:20:55.680 --> 1:20:58.599 had a lot of speculation and lawsuits and things like that. Right, 1:20:58.960 --> 1:21:01.400 that's been going on since like the early aughts, So 1:21:01.680 --> 1:21:04.480 there's some publicity around it, but mostly his lawyers. 1:21:04.600 --> 1:21:06.080 As you said, no one's working alone. 1:21:06.120 --> 1:21:10.240 His lawyers are diligently working hard to cover up everything. 1:21:10.080 --> 1:21:10.880 That he's been doing. 1:21:11.479 --> 1:21:15.919 So then in twenty fourteen, enter Hannibal Buris, a comedian 1:21:16.200 --> 1:21:19.000 that I was sitting here being like, I wonder if 1:21:19.040 --> 1:21:20.559 Hannibal is going to be a part of this. 1:21:20.960 --> 1:21:23.720 No, this is a full part of the story. Yeah, 1:21:23.920 --> 1:21:25.280 Like and I know for a. 1:21:25.240 --> 1:21:28.560 Fact, after this happened, there were some prominent fucking comedians 1:21:28.600 --> 1:21:30.280 that called him to bitch him out for like going 1:21:30.320 --> 1:21:31.439 against the black community. 1:21:31.840 --> 1:21:35.960 And it's like, yeah, you want to protect this rapist. 1:21:36.000 --> 1:21:38.559 I think that's worse for the black community, but whatever, Yeah, 1:21:38.680 --> 1:21:41.920 I know, but he got harassed by some very. 1:21:41.640 --> 1:21:43.639 Famous, very famous comedians. 1:21:43.680 --> 1:21:47.599 But I'm sure, Well, what's crazy is like how these 1:21:47.640 --> 1:21:52.519 things go down because anybody, this stuff's online, like this 1:21:52.560 --> 1:21:53.400 stuff is around. 1:21:53.439 --> 1:21:55.680 It just it happened in like a perfect storm. Well 1:21:55.720 --> 1:21:57.040 and someone paved his set. 1:21:57.120 --> 1:21:59.920 Yeah yeah, yeah, Well he mentions Cosby being a rape 1:22:00.240 --> 1:22:03.599 on stage and his audience acts shocked about it, and 1:22:03.640 --> 1:22:06.519 he tells them google it or whatever. And he'd been 1:22:06.560 --> 1:22:09.559 doing this joke, this bit for like six months, but 1:22:09.640 --> 1:22:13.240 again maybe it had been taped and the reaction had 1:22:13.280 --> 1:22:18.479 never been super huge. But then Philadelphia Magazine posted the 1:22:18.600 --> 1:22:23.160 video of Hannibal set in October of twenty fourteen, and 1:22:23.240 --> 1:22:25.639 that's when it starts to get to go viral. And man, 1:22:25.680 --> 1:22:29.000 Philadelphia Magazine really has it out for Cosby, like they 1:22:29.040 --> 1:22:32.559 are I don't know why, like why Philadelphia of all places, 1:22:32.600 --> 1:22:38.280 but they are into getting Cosby, And media coverage starts 1:22:38.280 --> 1:22:41.439 to pick up, and everybody's questioning, like, how has Cosby 1:22:41.880 --> 1:22:45.280 been able to maintain this squeaky clean image despite all 1:22:45.280 --> 1:22:48.320 of these horrific accusations, which are documented even if they 1:22:48.320 --> 1:22:51.760 haven't been prosecuted, like they're online, you know, And that's 1:22:51.800 --> 1:22:54.439 when a bunch of other victims come forward, like this 1:22:54.600 --> 1:22:57.000 is like Hannibal's thing was just kind of like a catalyst, 1:22:57.000 --> 1:22:59.320 but it really like opened the Pandora's box of like 1:22:59.400 --> 1:23:02.160 all these people coming forward. Among the victims that came 1:23:02.200 --> 1:23:08.920 forward were journalist Joan Tarshis, model Janis Dickinson, actress Luisa Maritz, 1:23:09.360 --> 1:23:13.160 Carla Ferigno, the wife of actor Luferigno, a nurse named 1:23:13.240 --> 1:23:20.040 Teresa Saragnese, playboy playmates named Valentino and Serena Butterfield, the 1:23:20.040 --> 1:23:24.120 model Beverly Johnson who she told her story to Vanity Fair, 1:23:24.400 --> 1:23:27.200 and Cosby actually tried to sue her for defamation over it, 1:23:27.240 --> 1:23:30.080 which is the only time he has ever sued one 1:23:30.080 --> 1:23:33.080 of his accusers who hadn't sued him first, like the 1:23:33.120 --> 1:23:35.160 only time he actually went after someone, and it was 1:23:35.160 --> 1:23:38.240 Beverly Johnson, probably because he thought her word was probably 1:23:38.280 --> 1:23:42.280 more credible, like she's actually a recognizable name and Vanity 1:23:42.280 --> 1:23:48.720 Fair is a respected publication and national and he sued her, 1:23:48.800 --> 1:23:51.040 but then he dropped the suit and said I want 1:23:51.040 --> 1:23:53.479 to focus on my try because at the time he 1:23:53.520 --> 1:23:56.559 had a trial. And then another person who came forward 1:23:56.600 --> 1:24:01.519 was actress Michelle Hurd aka Jeffries from the inaugural season 1:24:01.520 --> 1:24:04.880 of SVU, and I don't think I ever It sounds familiar, 1:24:04.920 --> 1:24:07.160 but I don't know that I ever remember putting it 1:24:07.200 --> 1:24:12.000 together that she was a Cosby victim. She claims that 1:24:12.040 --> 1:24:14.240 when she was a stand in on The Cosby Show 1:24:14.280 --> 1:24:17.160 as a young actor, Cosby invited her to his dressing 1:24:17.240 --> 1:24:22.320 room for acting exercises that involved inappropriate touching of her body. 1:24:22.600 --> 1:24:25.080 He invited her to come to his home to shower. 1:24:25.200 --> 1:24:27.759 She refused, and he told her to never tell anyone 1:24:27.760 --> 1:24:32.559 about the quote unquote acting exercises. So you know, he 1:24:32.720 --> 1:24:36.640 was She did not get drugged and fully assaulted, but 1:24:36.800 --> 1:24:38.840 it was one of his assault, you know, one of 1:24:38.880 --> 1:24:41.080 the tears of his assault she suffered. 1:24:41.840 --> 1:24:42.519 Plus there was an. 1:24:42.479 --> 1:24:46.000 Additional eleven women who made accusations that ranged from nineteen 1:24:46.040 --> 1:24:48.960 sixty five to two thousand and four. So in May 1:24:48.960 --> 1:24:54.519 of twenty fifteen, Lily Bernard claims that Cosby sexually assaulted 1:24:54.560 --> 1:24:58.599 her in the early nineties, and she was interviewed by 1:24:58.600 --> 1:25:01.840 police in Atlantic City, New Jersey, regarding the allegation. And 1:25:01.880 --> 1:25:04.479 because New Jersey has no statute of limitations on rape, 1:25:04.520 --> 1:25:07.679 there was hope of bringing charges against him. For that crime, 1:25:07.760 --> 1:25:11.719 but alas no, probably because there was no evidence left. 1:25:11.760 --> 1:25:15.719 It happened, you know, decades earlier. On July twenty seventh 1:25:15.760 --> 1:25:19.400 of twenty fifteen, I remember this specifically, but New York 1:25:19.439 --> 1:25:22.479 magazine had a cover featuring thirty five women sitting in 1:25:22.560 --> 1:25:25.679 chairs of his There were all his victims, and one 1:25:25.760 --> 1:25:28.600 chair was empty, which was like the suggested chair for 1:25:28.600 --> 1:25:30.920 the victims who had not come forward yet. And the 1:25:31.240 --> 1:25:33.679 article is basically these thirty five women telling their stories 1:25:33.760 --> 1:25:36.120 quote about being assaulted by Bill Cosby and the culture 1:25:36.160 --> 1:25:40.200 that wouldn't listen. Eleven other women declined to be photographed 1:25:40.200 --> 1:25:44.640 and interviewed for the feature. And so many of these 1:25:44.680 --> 1:25:47.240 women's accounts, like I said, are exactly the same. They 1:25:47.240 --> 1:25:50.280 get offered some kind of beverage or drink. Sometimes it's coffee, 1:25:50.320 --> 1:25:52.840 sometimes it's wine. Sometimes they're already drinking, and then he 1:25:52.880 --> 1:25:56.799 offers them another drink and they're assaulted while severely impaired 1:25:56.920 --> 1:26:01.120 or fully unconscious. By October of twenty five, fifteen, nearly 1:26:01.200 --> 1:26:07.120 sixty women had accused Cosby. One Cosby accuser named jul Allison, 1:26:07.160 --> 1:26:10.519 described him as a sociopath and said, quote, we may 1:26:10.520 --> 1:26:13.320 be looking at America's greatest serial rapists that ever got 1:26:13.360 --> 1:26:16.080 away with this for the longest amount of time. He 1:26:16.120 --> 1:26:17.880 got away with it because he was hiding behind the 1:26:17.880 --> 1:26:22.240 image of Cliff Huxtable end quote. And there is I'm 1:26:22.240 --> 1:26:24.639 not going to go through sixty plus victims, but there 1:26:24.800 --> 1:26:29.080 is a full table in this Wikipedia entry about his 1:26:29.840 --> 1:26:32.800 things that quote that has the year that their assault happened, 1:26:32.800 --> 1:26:35.240 the name, the year their assault happened, the year like 1:26:35.280 --> 1:26:38.240 the outcomes everything. So if people are more interested, but 1:26:38.400 --> 1:26:41.439 I'm trying to make this work into the framework of 1:26:41.479 --> 1:26:46.360 our podcast. Also in twenty fifteen, Andrea konstant who I 1:26:46.479 --> 1:26:49.000 mentioned before, one of the most prominent victim of his. 1:26:49.520 --> 1:26:51.719 She had sued Cosby and civil court in two thousand 1:26:51.720 --> 1:26:55.759 and five, as I mentioned, and they had this confidentiality agreement. 1:26:55.840 --> 1:26:59.360 So in twenty fifteen she files to negate the confidentiality 1:26:59.360 --> 1:27:03.120 agreement that she had entered into, and her lawyer argued 1:27:03.160 --> 1:27:06.160 that he abandoned the confidentiality agreement with his denials of 1:27:06.200 --> 1:27:08.599 these allegations about him, So like, if he's talking about 1:27:09.080 --> 1:27:13.160 these like these allegations, why can't I speak up right? 1:27:13.720 --> 1:27:16.760 So a judge rule that releasing the sealed documents was 1:27:16.960 --> 1:27:21.200 justified by Cosby's role as a quote unquote public moralist 1:27:21.960 --> 1:27:25.680 in contrast to his possible criminal private behavior, obsessed with 1:27:25.680 --> 1:27:28.439 this judge, obsessed like this judge is like, well, I mean, 1:27:28.439 --> 1:27:31.720 if you're going to be out there giving lectures on 1:27:31.880 --> 1:27:34.960 how like because I remember talking to black men that 1:27:35.000 --> 1:27:37.040 were like, I hate how he talks to black men 1:27:37.080 --> 1:27:39.720 about how we have to dress and how we have 1:27:39.800 --> 1:27:41.960 to talk and how we have to be when he 1:27:42.400 --> 1:27:45.600 and positioning himself as like a public moralist, as this 1:27:45.720 --> 1:27:48.760 judge says, when he has these allegations this all the. 1:27:48.800 --> 1:27:51.280 Time, because Nate Bergotzi is like this where it's like 1:27:51.320 --> 1:27:53.120 if you open, you have to be clean if you're 1:27:53.160 --> 1:27:55.120 in Nashville, Like you better be a clean comic if 1:27:55.160 --> 1:27:57.439 you want to do anything with nateland right, if you 1:27:57.439 --> 1:27:59.400 want to be on this pot everything. And he's kind 1:27:59.400 --> 1:28:02.120 of created this weird culture and I'm like, well, the 1:28:02.200 --> 1:28:04.720 only other person who's done that is Bill Cosby, So 1:28:04.840 --> 1:28:07.720 that's pretty weird. And it just always bothers me as 1:28:07.720 --> 1:28:11.200 someone that like says whatever I want, like be who 1:28:11.240 --> 1:28:13.680 you are. I talk about this, but like Ryan Hamilton's 1:28:13.760 --> 1:28:16.360 not really like a vulgar guy, So it makes sense 1:28:16.400 --> 1:28:19.720 to me exactly that he's he's just being himself, Like 1:28:19.800 --> 1:28:22.360 that makes sense, Like everyone gets to be themselves, like 1:28:22.400 --> 1:28:25.479 some people are dorky or quiet or like we're all different. 1:28:25.800 --> 1:28:30.080 But to put morality on language or how people speak 1:28:30.479 --> 1:28:33.320 and try to influence the way people speak instead of 1:28:33.360 --> 1:28:35.439 being themselves, like, it's just such a red. 1:28:35.280 --> 1:28:35.800 Flag for me. 1:28:36.280 --> 1:28:38.400 And I'm not accused, Like I would have conversations with 1:28:38.479 --> 1:28:40.639 Ryan Hamilton where I would probably be swearing my face 1:28:40.640 --> 1:28:41.479 off and he was never. 1:28:41.400 --> 1:28:43.600 Like could you not talk like that? Now He's like 1:28:43.720 --> 1:28:45.320 that's just who he is, you know. 1:28:45.520 --> 1:28:48.960 And I'm not accusing a Bragotzi of like decades of rape, 1:28:49.120 --> 1:28:50.519 Like that's not what I'm saying. 1:28:50.800 --> 1:28:54.479 But to me, it's just like it's this moralist thing. 1:28:54.560 --> 1:28:57.439 It's just like anyone that puts morality on things that 1:28:57.520 --> 1:29:03.439 don't that don't have it. Yeah, it just And I 1:29:03.439 --> 1:29:05.439 am not a black man, so I don't know that 1:29:05.479 --> 1:29:08.880 cultural impact. I'm just someone that likes to, like I guess, 1:29:09.360 --> 1:29:12.639 talk dirty. Yeah, I don't even know. I don't even 1:29:12.640 --> 1:29:14.519 think it's that crazy what I say. I guess I 1:29:14.560 --> 1:29:16.840 always have like a comb joke in my specials but 1:29:17.280 --> 1:29:21.920 it just bothers me. Yeah, forcing someone saying something's wrong, 1:29:22.040 --> 1:29:24.320 trying to control what people say, you know, and that's 1:29:24.360 --> 1:29:24.920 what rape is. 1:29:24.960 --> 1:29:30.840 It's control. Yeah, it's all in line, but bothers right? 1:29:31.320 --> 1:29:33.920 How fun that Neighborgatzi's been getting like that he went 1:29:33.960 --> 1:29:35.840 to the UFC thing and everyone's been like, what did 1:29:35.880 --> 1:29:36.200 you know? 1:29:36.240 --> 1:29:37.479 And I'm like, yeah, I fucking knew. 1:29:37.520 --> 1:29:41.559 I mean and bomb Yeah, I'm just like always ahead 1:29:41.560 --> 1:29:43.160 of it, like I really need to get my ego 1:29:43.200 --> 1:29:45.240 and check because now I just feel like I have 1:29:45.400 --> 1:29:49.880 such a superpower. I'm like every motherfucker that wasn't nice 1:29:49.880 --> 1:29:51.640 to me, or that I hated, or I didn't like 1:29:51.640 --> 1:29:53.280 the way they treated the women in their life, for 1:29:53.360 --> 1:29:56.080 the people around them, or what their material, any of it, 1:29:56.360 --> 1:29:59.559 I'm like you Like, suddenly everyone's like wait what and 1:29:59.600 --> 1:30:01.840 it's like, well, the list is longer, We've got a 1:30:01.840 --> 1:30:04.200 few more to go. I would say, oh yeah, the 1:30:04.280 --> 1:30:07.799 list is pretty long, We've got more, but yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:30:07.840 --> 1:30:11.840 but yeah, Bill, with all of that, I did love 1:30:11.920 --> 1:30:13.040 kids say the darness things. 1:30:13.040 --> 1:30:14.920 It's like, so and I watched the I Love the 1:30:14.960 --> 1:30:15.880 Classy Show. 1:30:16.040 --> 1:30:17.840 Oh my god, I used to watch it like when 1:30:17.840 --> 1:30:19.519 I worked at the USA Network. I had a little 1:30:19.560 --> 1:30:21.400 TV in my cubicle and I would watch The Cosby 1:30:21.439 --> 1:30:23.400 Show reruns all day and I was like, I love 1:30:23.520 --> 1:30:26.559 this show. I loved all the actors. I loved the 1:30:26.640 --> 1:30:29.320 chemistry of the family. It was so good, was so 1:30:29.360 --> 1:30:32.160 well written. It's still a great show. It sucks that 1:30:32.200 --> 1:30:35.000 it's it sucks that, like the whole legacy of it 1:30:35.040 --> 1:30:39.840 is tarnished because of this guy and his fucking obsession 1:30:39.880 --> 1:30:41.920 with control and being an actual sociopath. 1:30:42.160 --> 1:30:45.280 Did but you see Taylor Tomlinson and Sophie Buttle, and 1:30:45.320 --> 1:30:47.360 I forgot who else is like on a podcast? You 1:30:47.360 --> 1:30:49.640 saw that? Yeah, it was so interesting. They were like 1:30:49.680 --> 1:30:51.960 all these guys are like, she's annoying, she's mean, and 1:30:51.960 --> 1:30:55.879 it's like your friends and defending rapists like that, he's. 1:30:55.680 --> 1:30:57.400 Coming into my feet and I'm like, I love it. 1:30:57.479 --> 1:31:00.439 Yeah, it's like you're more You're more mad and bothered 1:31:00.479 --> 1:31:04.280 by annoying or not friendly women then truly your friends 1:31:04.280 --> 1:31:06.360 that are predators with allegations. 1:31:07.200 --> 1:31:08.920 So, but this is what's very interesting. 1:31:09.040 --> 1:31:12.360 Okay, So some of the files are released by this 1:31:12.439 --> 1:31:15.360 cool judge that I love. They're released unsealed, but the 1:31:15.400 --> 1:31:21.040 transcripts of Cosby depositions were not released, but the Gray 1:31:21.120 --> 1:31:23.960 Lady herself, the New York Times found those babies and 1:31:24.000 --> 1:31:28.120 published them. They got them from like the original deposition 1:31:28.200 --> 1:31:31.599 company or something, because they weren't confidential to them. It's 1:31:31.600 --> 1:31:33.759 like a full like but I think that's a little 1:31:33.760 --> 1:31:37.320 bit maybe in this episode with the releasing of the tape, 1:31:37.320 --> 1:31:42.040 at the end, they release these depositions, and these depositions 1:31:42.040 --> 1:31:47.120 are very interesting because he's just acting like he's a 1:31:47.120 --> 1:31:50.719 playboy and the ladies love him, and he goes quote, 1:31:50.720 --> 1:31:52.720 I think I'm a pretty decent reader of people and 1:31:52.760 --> 1:31:55.639 their emotions in these romantic sexual things, whatever you want 1:31:55.640 --> 1:31:58.800 to call them. It's like, sure, Jan, you can't read 1:31:58.880 --> 1:32:01.680 that somebody that's pass out is not consenting to you, 1:32:01.840 --> 1:32:06.280 Like all right. So then in the deposition, constant's lawyer 1:32:06.360 --> 1:32:09.040 goes quote, I think you're making light of a very 1:32:09.080 --> 1:32:12.200 serious situation end quote, and Cosby replies that may very 1:32:12.200 --> 1:32:16.960 well be like he's acting like not taking seriously. He's 1:32:17.040 --> 1:32:19.080 kind of he's kind of they said, he's sort of 1:32:19.120 --> 1:32:23.120 like flip flopping between like smirking and sort of acting 1:32:23.200 --> 1:32:23.799 like innocent. 1:32:24.040 --> 1:32:27.559 And his lawyers are obviously pissed. And they think that 1:32:27.680 --> 1:32:30.439 Constant and her lawyers organize the release of the of 1:32:30.479 --> 1:32:34.160 these transcripts to the New York Times. And in their 1:32:34.200 --> 1:32:38.040 court filing, which obviously they filed to complain about the 1:32:38.080 --> 1:32:41.560 release of these records, they wrote, quote, reading the media accounts, 1:32:41.680 --> 1:32:44.519 one would conclude that the defendant has admitted to rape. 1:32:44.600 --> 1:32:47.000 And yet the defendant admitted to nothing more than being 1:32:47.040 --> 1:32:49.599 one of the many people who introduced queludes into their 1:32:49.600 --> 1:32:54.440 consensual sex life in the nineteen seventies. So in the deposition, 1:32:54.680 --> 1:32:57.719 Cosby denies any sexual assault of any women, but admits 1:32:57.760 --> 1:33:01.280 he's used sedatives to help gain their co operation to 1:33:01.439 --> 1:33:05.720 like interest, even what the fuck? Yeah, So it's like 1:33:06.640 --> 1:33:10.120 these transcripts kind of are fucking them because he's acting 1:33:10.200 --> 1:33:13.720 like I'm innocent. I just use a little bit of 1:33:13.800 --> 1:33:17.559 Benadrill sometimes like he's so and I think he actually 1:33:17.600 --> 1:33:22.519 maybe yes. And he testified in these depositions that he 1:33:22.560 --> 1:33:27.559 had obtained kuayludes from a guynecologist named Leroy Amar, who 1:33:27.680 --> 1:33:30.639 knew that Cosby had no intention of taking these drugs himself, 1:33:31.160 --> 1:33:33.439 and Cosby instead intended to give them to women who 1:33:33.439 --> 1:33:35.840 he wanted to have sexual relations with, and admitted he 1:33:35.920 --> 1:33:38.880 had given the drug to at least one woman and 1:33:39.040 --> 1:33:42.920 other people. Cosby admitted so, and he admitted knowing it 1:33:42.960 --> 1:33:44.960 was illegal at the time to dispense these drugs to 1:33:45.000 --> 1:33:49.800 other people Quayludes and amar. This doctor later had his 1:33:49.840 --> 1:33:52.559 medical license revoked in California and New York State and 1:33:52.600 --> 1:33:53.519 has since passed away. 1:33:54.080 --> 1:33:56.960 On December, Quaylud's a bad name. I want to do 1:33:57.040 --> 1:34:00.280 kuayludes so bad. When I think of kayludes, I think 1:34:00.320 --> 1:34:03.920 of Cosby, or I think of Samantha. 1:34:04.920 --> 1:34:06.760 The Leudes, you know. 1:34:07.840 --> 1:34:12.000 But on December thirtieth, twenty fifteen, in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania, 1:34:12.160 --> 1:34:16.040 again Cosby is charged for the first time with any 1:34:16.080 --> 1:34:19.400 criminal charge, and it's three counts of aggravated in decent 1:34:19.400 --> 1:34:23.120 assault on Andrea Constant during a single incident allegedly that 1:34:23.240 --> 1:34:29.120 occurred at his home in Cheltenham Township on an unspecified 1:34:29.200 --> 1:34:31.160 date between mid January and mid February of. 1:34:31.120 --> 1:34:35.320 Two thousand and four. Like a lot of the cops 1:34:35.320 --> 1:34:36.120 are calling it like. 1:34:36.160 --> 1:34:40.640 The January incident or something, So Cosby makes bail, surrenders 1:34:40.680 --> 1:34:41.920 his passport, et cetera. 1:34:42.320 --> 1:34:44.760 His team immediately tries to get the case dropped. It 1:34:44.760 --> 1:34:49.479 doesn't happen. He faced a fifteen to thirty year term 1:34:49.520 --> 1:34:51.960 in prison, as well as a twenty five thousand dollars fine. 1:34:52.400 --> 1:34:55.040 The trial starts on June fifth of twenty seventeen. It 1:34:55.200 --> 1:34:58.600 ends in a mistrial a couple weeks later, on June seventeenth. 1:34:58.960 --> 1:35:01.640 He was retry the following year in twenty eighteen, and 1:35:01.720 --> 1:35:04.400 was found guilty of three counts of aggravated in decent 1:35:04.400 --> 1:35:08.720 assault on April twenty sixth, and on September twenty fifth, 1:35:08.800 --> 1:35:11.920 twenty eighteen, he was sentenced to three to ten years 1:35:11.920 --> 1:35:15.200 in state prison, twenty five thousand dollars fine, and forty 1:35:15.200 --> 1:35:18.599 three thousand dollars cost of the prosecution, which I don't know, 1:35:18.800 --> 1:35:20.320 does that like go to the state? 1:35:20.360 --> 1:35:20.920 I don't really know. 1:35:21.960 --> 1:35:26.680 Cosby appealed that in twenty nineteen. It was upheld, and 1:35:26.720 --> 1:35:30.240 then in June. On June thirtieth of twenty twenty one, 1:35:30.400 --> 1:35:34.960 the Pennsylvania Supreme Court found that Cosby's agreement with the 1:35:35.000 --> 1:35:40.960 previous Montgomery County prosecutor, Bruce Caster, prevented him from being 1:35:41.080 --> 1:35:43.599 charged in the case, and they overturned the conviction. 1:35:44.479 --> 1:35:47.360 And yeah, I mean remember it being overturned. 1:35:47.400 --> 1:35:52.240 But because Basically they said he already had a agreement 1:35:52.240 --> 1:35:55.720 in this case, like a civil maybe because of the 1:35:56.080 --> 1:35:58.320 lack of being able to prosecute back in two thousand 1:35:58.320 --> 1:36:01.599 and four, like after this incident happened and then what 1:36:01.680 --> 1:36:03.080 eventually led to the civil case. 1:36:03.200 --> 1:36:04.800 I think they're basically. 1:36:04.479 --> 1:36:08.200 Arguing he's already been tried for this and had an 1:36:08.200 --> 1:36:11.720 agreement with this prosecutor, so he shouldn't be able to 1:36:11.840 --> 1:36:15.120 be tried for it again. I don't know, And so 1:36:15.640 --> 1:36:19.479 he's over it's overturned. The Supreme Court's decision prevents him 1:36:19.479 --> 1:36:21.800 from being tried on the same charge as a third time. 1:36:22.320 --> 1:36:24.720 They did try to get the US Supreme Court to 1:36:24.720 --> 1:36:26.280 hear the case, but they denied it. 1:36:26.320 --> 1:36:27.160 And that's final. 1:36:27.200 --> 1:36:29.519 And that's why it's final, and that's why he is 1:36:30.400 --> 1:36:34.200 out of prison and living his life as a freeman, 1:36:34.320 --> 1:36:36.360 although I don't know what kind of a good life 1:36:36.360 --> 1:36:37.040 it is for him. 1:36:38.000 --> 1:36:40.439 I bet if he announced a tour it would sell out. 1:36:41.040 --> 1:36:41.479 I don't know. 1:36:41.680 --> 1:36:45.000 Maybe, I don't know. He has a bunch of honorary 1:36:45.040 --> 1:36:47.519 degrees that have been rescinded. Disney World took down their 1:36:47.560 --> 1:36:49.800 statue of him. He was expelled from the Academy of 1:36:49.800 --> 1:36:52.920 motion pictures and sciences, like reruns of The Cosby Show 1:36:52.960 --> 1:36:53.680 were canceled. 1:36:54.400 --> 1:36:56.240 He like the NBC had. 1:36:56.160 --> 1:36:58.000 Plans with him for like a reboot of of The 1:36:58.000 --> 1:37:00.840 Cosby Show that obviously they scrapped. There was like and 1:37:00.920 --> 1:37:03.439 I don't know, I mean, and what was interesting was 1:37:03.520 --> 1:37:05.800 like what you were saying, how comics were defending him, 1:37:05.840 --> 1:37:08.160 Like Felicia Rashad really came to his defense. A bunch 1:37:08.200 --> 1:37:10.559 of people were really coming to his defense saying this 1:37:10.640 --> 1:37:13.320 is these are attacks to take down a man's legacy. 1:37:13.960 --> 1:37:17.120 And one person who changed their tune on it was 1:37:17.160 --> 1:37:20.240 who be Goldberg. She originally defended Bill Cosby and then 1:37:20.360 --> 1:37:23.320 was like, you know what, Bill, it's not looking good. 1:37:23.360 --> 1:37:25.600 You either got to I think she was kind of 1:37:25.600 --> 1:37:28.280 like put up or shut up, like say what like 1:37:28.439 --> 1:37:30.599 give some proof that these things didn't happen, because it's 1:37:30.680 --> 1:37:33.679 really not looking good for you. So whoo Bee came 1:37:33.760 --> 1:37:37.800 around on that, And I don't really know what he's 1:37:37.840 --> 1:37:41.080 got planned now. I mean, it feels to me very 1:37:41.120 --> 1:37:43.880 different than like a Luis c. K or like somebody 1:37:44.200 --> 1:37:49.480 who you know, like in terms of decades of incapacity 1:37:49.800 --> 1:37:50.880 and raping them. 1:37:51.080 --> 1:37:53.479 It's like the trauma of an attack or an assault 1:37:53.560 --> 1:37:55.559 or abuse in any way. It's like you can't really 1:37:55.560 --> 1:37:58.519 compare the things because it's like how it affected the 1:37:58.560 --> 1:38:02.519 person involved. So I find it distasteful to kind of 1:38:02.520 --> 1:38:04.680 compare stuff. But yeah, I think taking your dick out 1:38:04.720 --> 1:38:08.360 at work is different than so it's like. 1:38:08.439 --> 1:38:09.280 I'm not comparing it. 1:38:09.320 --> 1:38:09.519 I'm not. 1:38:09.760 --> 1:38:12.479 You said you didn't, But yeah, in terms of like 1:38:12.600 --> 1:38:15.639 if it is, you think he really would be accepted 1:38:15.680 --> 1:38:18.040 if he came back, Like, if he really would be accepted, 1:38:18.080 --> 1:38:18.400 you do? 1:38:19.479 --> 1:38:22.559 I do now? I think oled I think there are 1:38:22.600 --> 1:38:24.479 people that would go. 1:38:24.400 --> 1:38:26.400 Buy the ticket care I mean how I think the 1:38:26.479 --> 1:38:30.280 venues would be president. I know, I know, I know, 1:38:30.600 --> 1:38:32.320 I know, I know he has his own cults. But 1:38:32.360 --> 1:38:35.479 it's like, but he's also white. He's also white. I 1:38:35.520 --> 1:38:38.200 feel like there's a racial issue here where like people 1:38:38.200 --> 1:38:41.960 would not be as willing to accept him back in. 1:38:42.040 --> 1:38:45.280 But I don't know. I mean, that's a great point. 1:38:45.520 --> 1:38:47.840 I don't know that we have a line anymore, like 1:38:47.880 --> 1:38:53.840 in this country anyway. I know that the Cosby allegations 1:38:53.920 --> 1:38:58.360 are there's like you know, deep years and years and 1:38:58.400 --> 1:39:00.280 documents and so much. So I was try I kind 1:39:00.280 --> 1:39:04.720 of sort of synthesize the crimes in as quickly a 1:39:04.760 --> 1:39:08.920 manner for podcast consumption as I could. But I mean 1:39:09.840 --> 1:39:12.800 it does feel like I mean, when you look online, 1:39:12.960 --> 1:39:16.519 everybody says, oh, this episode Starstruck Victims is about Cosby. 1:39:16.520 --> 1:39:17.400 It's about Cosby. 1:39:17.479 --> 1:39:21.720 Also, the episode came out in twenty sixteen. All the 1:39:21.800 --> 1:39:25.600 Cosby stuff is going down at this time, so it 1:39:25.680 --> 1:39:27.880 definitely is related to him. But I feel like they 1:39:28.360 --> 1:39:31.120 made it this tag team thing. They didn't use the drugs, 1:39:31.160 --> 1:39:34.040 maybe to avoid like I mean, definitely they say in 1:39:34.080 --> 1:39:36.800 this episode that they wait for girls to get super drunk, 1:39:36.880 --> 1:39:39.040 so they're definitely using an incapacitation, but they're not actually 1:39:39.120 --> 1:39:43.280 drugging them, whereas maybe they didn't want it to seem 1:39:43.360 --> 1:39:45.640 too close because like Cosby is litigious, Like I have 1:39:45.640 --> 1:39:49.600 no idea. Also, Cosby show was on NBC, like I 1:39:49.600 --> 1:39:51.160 don't know, the same network. 1:39:51.840 --> 1:39:54.240 But thank you for doing all that research. It is 1:39:54.280 --> 1:39:54.679 a lot. 1:39:55.080 --> 1:39:58.720 Yeah, there's it's like diff it's different. But there's a 1:39:58.760 --> 1:40:02.880 scene in BoJack horse Men toward the last in one 1:40:02.920 --> 1:40:06.799 of the last five episodes of the series. But because 1:40:07.680 --> 1:40:12.120 you know, there's BoJack's been disgraced in whatever ways. I 1:40:12.120 --> 1:40:13.439 don't want to run the show for anyone, but like 1:40:13.479 --> 1:40:16.280 an exec comes and makes some sign a contract so 1:40:16.280 --> 1:40:18.080 they can edit him out of the show so the 1:40:18.120 --> 1:40:19.800 other people could still get residuals. 1:40:22.680 --> 1:40:28.120 Yeah, but yeah, yeah, I was thinking about that, like 1:40:29.479 --> 1:40:32.320 kind of like when I was doing this, I was like, oh, what, 1:40:32.479 --> 1:40:35.040 like what is the legacy of the Cosby Show? Like 1:40:35.120 --> 1:40:37.599 A Nope, there's just gonna people aren't going to see it, 1:40:38.120 --> 1:40:39.800 you know, and like I wonder how that affects, Like 1:40:39.800 --> 1:40:43.840 that doesn't probably affect like Lisa Bonnet very much, but 1:40:44.000 --> 1:40:47.160 like you know, there were other actors on that show 1:40:47.160 --> 1:40:49.840 who were on that for years and years and are 1:40:49.880 --> 1:40:53.439 not probably seeing any money from that anymore. Anyway, we 1:40:53.520 --> 1:40:56.679 have a delightful interview coming up, so don't move a muscle. 1:41:04.240 --> 1:41:07.320 Our guest today thrilled. We've been wanting him since the beginning. 1:41:07.360 --> 1:41:09.080 I will say that we have definitely been wanting him 1:41:09.080 --> 1:41:12.320 since the beginning. He's had a prolific career in TV, film, 1:41:12.360 --> 1:41:15.400 and Broadway. You've seen him in movies like The Long Kiss, 1:41:15.439 --> 1:41:18.680 Good Nights, Cinderellamance, Scary Movie Four. He was also on 1:41:18.800 --> 1:41:23.000 four seasons of Kara and Lisa cult hit show unreal 1:41:23.520 --> 1:41:27.519 and as the famous jazz guy on Sex and the City, 1:41:27.720 --> 1:41:30.519 but you know him today as sexual predator slash TV 1:41:30.640 --> 1:41:34.240 star Bobby Demico. Please enjoy what I thought was an 1:41:34.280 --> 1:41:35.839 amazing chat with Craig Birco. 1:41:36.760 --> 1:41:39.200 Hi, Craig, where goes? 1:41:40.240 --> 1:41:42.080 Oh what a get for you? 1:41:43.200 --> 1:41:43.320 Are? 1:41:45.000 --> 1:41:47.800 You are jazz man in Sex and the City? Is 1:41:47.840 --> 1:41:48.360 that fun? 1:41:48.439 --> 1:41:50.599 Sex in the City to film? Do you have memories? 1:41:50.680 --> 1:41:53.559 Season four is probably a nice deal to book, you know. 1:41:54.560 --> 1:41:55.599 Was it four or three? 1:41:55.720 --> 1:41:57.400 Well, we'll start with your Sex and the City and 1:41:57.439 --> 1:42:00.799 we'll back into lot. Yeah, yeah, sorry, okay, take it easy. 1:42:02.040 --> 1:42:05.519 It was oh god, it was really fun and I 1:42:05.720 --> 1:42:09.960 just yeah, I just spoke with as. 1:42:08.960 --> 1:42:10.760 A Christian, who's the show? 1:42:10.840 --> 1:42:15.479 Yeah, that was really fun. And yes, I love going 1:42:15.520 --> 1:42:18.200 back and revisiting this stuff. It's really great. 1:42:18.400 --> 1:42:19.719 That was great. I remember. 1:42:20.680 --> 1:42:24.519 One of the uniquely terrific things, and the typical show 1:42:24.560 --> 1:42:27.760 business story was the very first day right into bed 1:42:28.640 --> 1:42:31.960 like graphic you know, for you know, for what it 1:42:32.000 --> 1:42:34.680 was obviously but not pornographic, but it was, you know, 1:42:35.240 --> 1:42:37.960 rather suggestive, and that's how we started. And it was 1:42:38.040 --> 1:42:39.760 just in for a penny, in for a pound, so 1:42:39.800 --> 1:42:43.479 to speak. Yeah, it was great, and everybody was terrific. 1:42:43.560 --> 1:42:44.840 What a friendly cast. 1:42:44.800 --> 1:42:46.920 You know, but he ends up being sort of like 1:42:47.000 --> 1:42:51.320 the ADHD guy before maybe we had the terminology for it, 1:42:51.400 --> 1:42:51.600 you know. 1:42:51.920 --> 1:42:55.040 Well that's that was amazing because I haven't seen really 1:42:55.120 --> 1:42:58.720 before or Sinse a character sort of handled straight on 1:42:58.800 --> 1:43:00.519 who just says, that's basically what I am. 1:43:00.560 --> 1:43:02.880 And then you kind of watch his behaviors. 1:43:03.120 --> 1:43:10.120 I'm familiar enough with the behavior, let's say, and and thought, certainly, 1:43:10.160 --> 1:43:12.559 I think it's probably the most difficult thing I've ever 1:43:12.600 --> 1:43:13.440 had to memorize. 1:43:14.360 --> 1:43:14.799 Damn. 1:43:14.960 --> 1:43:18.679 Yeah, because there was no life when he starts kicking 1:43:18.680 --> 1:43:23.320 off sparks at the end, nothing's holding one idea to 1:43:23.360 --> 1:43:25.400 the other. And I thought, this is what I sound 1:43:25.479 --> 1:43:29.080 like to other people when I started to go off 1:43:29.120 --> 1:43:31.760 on a tear. Yeah, it was really something, but even 1:43:32.280 --> 1:43:34.160 culture from me from that side of things. 1:43:34.320 --> 1:43:37.040 Yeah, but even once she realized your character was nutty, 1:43:37.120 --> 1:43:38.840 She's like, I will have sex with him one more time. 1:43:39.920 --> 1:43:40.679 And I like that. 1:43:41.160 --> 1:43:41.680 I love that. 1:43:41.840 --> 1:43:43.800 I love when shows like that. It's a you know, 1:43:44.000 --> 1:43:47.599 obviously a female centric show. Uh, and then it just 1:43:47.640 --> 1:43:52.200 they make the typical guy choice just a little Yeah. 1:43:51.800 --> 1:43:52.840 They'll do it one more time. 1:43:52.880 --> 1:43:57.880 One more for Gonna get Out and then I'm Gonna 1:43:57.880 --> 1:43:58.160 get out. 1:43:58.240 --> 1:44:01.000 Yeah, and then you were early SVU two. 1:44:02.640 --> 1:44:02.880 Yeah. 1:44:02.880 --> 1:44:05.400 This was back during the radio when we were on 1:44:05.439 --> 1:44:07.040 the Filco network. 1:44:07.439 --> 1:44:08.480 It was radio. 1:44:09.760 --> 1:44:12.920 She's in five And I actually was like, why am 1:44:12.960 --> 1:44:15.280 I Why have we not done this episode? It's because 1:44:15.360 --> 1:44:16.960 we didn't think it was based on a true crime, 1:44:16.960 --> 1:44:19.560 but it actually is. I think, so we should do it. 1:44:19.560 --> 1:44:23.439 It's called Escape from season five right episode eleven. And 1:44:23.680 --> 1:44:27.600 you're this deputy marshal named Andy Eckerson, and you have 1:44:27.680 --> 1:44:30.320 a past with Olivia Benson which we love that we 1:44:30.360 --> 1:44:34.400 love when she runs into old flames. Ye, how was that? 1:44:34.479 --> 1:44:36.000 Do you remember? And you also had to work with 1:44:36.040 --> 1:44:37.840 what how do you say it? Fanola Flanagan? 1:44:37.960 --> 1:44:38.519 We like her? 1:44:38.760 --> 1:44:42.400 Yes, Oh my god. She was terrific. Oh yeah, really great. 1:44:42.920 --> 1:44:46.559 Well, I've known Mariska not really really well, but I've 1:44:46.560 --> 1:44:48.200 met her a bunch of times, and I knew her 1:44:48.240 --> 1:44:50.760 as this hysterically funny person. I met her through a 1:44:50.760 --> 1:44:54.519 friend of mine named George Newborn, who you might know him. 1:44:54.720 --> 1:44:57.559 We just viewed him like a month ago. Yeah, terrific. 1:44:57.600 --> 1:44:57.880 Actor. 1:44:57.920 --> 1:45:00.240 Have known him from wet to college together. And I 1:45:00.280 --> 1:45:03.320 met Mariska through him, but I think she was doing 1:45:03.320 --> 1:45:07.240 a sitcom. You never saw this kind of thing coming. 1:45:07.320 --> 1:45:11.320 She was like this funny person that rare breed of. 1:45:11.880 --> 1:45:14.320 I would say she's probably unique in the sense that 1:45:14.360 --> 1:45:20.000 she's a siren in both senses of the word. She's 1:45:20.080 --> 1:45:24.120 a beautiful siren, but she's also louder than. 1:45:23.960 --> 1:45:25.000 An actual siren. 1:45:25.240 --> 1:45:25.799 Ha ha ha. 1:45:26.160 --> 1:45:29.200 Well, I knew her and and I would run in 1:45:29.240 --> 1:45:31.080 from her to time. It run into her from time 1:45:31.080 --> 1:45:36.160 to time, and I was I used to live like 1:45:36.760 --> 1:45:39.800 between near like four than the West Village basically, and 1:45:40.120 --> 1:45:44.240 I'm crossing the street and I hear hey, and it's 1:45:44.439 --> 1:45:46.960 her And she saw me crossing this from the other 1:45:46.960 --> 1:45:49.400 side of where she goes Hey, this huge loud and 1:45:49.520 --> 1:45:52.400 next to her is Peter, her soon to be husband. Huh, 1:45:53.040 --> 1:45:55.759 and he jumps about fifteen feet into the sky. 1:45:56.000 --> 1:45:57.360 She scared the hell out of him. 1:45:58.320 --> 1:46:01.800 He jumps out of his shoesally and all three of 1:46:01.880 --> 1:46:04.799 us that moment happened, and then we just collapsed laughing, 1:46:05.360 --> 1:46:09.200 and she said, can you do the show? That was 1:46:09.400 --> 1:46:11.559 That was how I ended up doing the first episode 1:46:11.600 --> 1:46:12.800 because I want to get you on the show. Can 1:46:12.840 --> 1:46:15.160 you do the show? I was like, I'll do the show. 1:46:15.720 --> 1:46:17.880 But what the funniest part of it was just Peter 1:46:18.040 --> 1:46:20.639 just literally jumping out of his shoes and then coming 1:46:20.680 --> 1:46:23.240 back and and sort of like landing back in his shoes, 1:46:23.320 --> 1:46:23.639 like this. 1:46:23.680 --> 1:46:26.880 Kind of thing probably happened fairly frequently, probably. 1:46:28.760 --> 1:46:29.880 Of New York at this point. 1:46:30.600 --> 1:46:34.639 Yes, yea, anyway, that's how that's how that came about. 1:46:34.720 --> 1:46:38.960 And then I remember the things. I really, I mean, 1:46:39.000 --> 1:46:42.160 I remember sort of what was going on in my life. Okay, 1:46:42.760 --> 1:46:45.919 almost as much as more than I remember the actual episode. 1:46:45.960 --> 1:46:47.080 I have to be I. 1:46:46.960 --> 1:46:50.400 Have to be honest, but I do remember working with 1:46:50.439 --> 1:46:54.320 her and she she gave me some sort of a note. 1:46:54.320 --> 1:46:57.160 It was very carefully done, because that's usually actors don't 1:46:57.160 --> 1:46:59.360 do that. You know, you do you you say something 1:46:59.400 --> 1:47:01.720 to the direct and the director speaks, yeah, that's the 1:47:01.760 --> 1:47:04.680 proper form. But it was a kind of shorthand, and 1:47:04.720 --> 1:47:07.320 we knew each other. She was helping me out, and 1:47:07.800 --> 1:47:09.600 it was I can't remember what it was, but it 1:47:09.640 --> 1:47:11.680 was a minor adjustment. It was an acting thing. This 1:47:11.800 --> 1:47:14.680 was the first procedural I had ever done where I 1:47:14.800 --> 1:47:17.400 was actually playing. I mean, maybe I'd played a bad 1:47:17.439 --> 1:47:20.680 guy in a few of them, but I had never played. 1:47:20.360 --> 1:47:23.120 Like one of the actual procedurers. 1:47:23.760 --> 1:47:25.439 Yeah, you have a lot of walk and talks. 1:47:25.439 --> 1:47:27.679 In this one lot, there was a lot of walk 1:47:27.680 --> 1:47:30.360 and talk and she said something to me, and I 1:47:30.400 --> 1:47:34.000 remember thinking this, you have to do this, you have 1:47:34.080 --> 1:47:37.719 to commit to this form I think I was doing something. 1:47:38.160 --> 1:47:40.559 It was a little bit more casual, almost like the 1:47:40.600 --> 1:47:42.519 sense of like, Oh, I'm going to come into one 1:47:42.560 --> 1:47:44.640 of these shows and I'm going to play one of 1:47:44.640 --> 1:47:46.519 these parts. I'm going to bring something a little bit 1:47:46.560 --> 1:47:51.280 more casual, you know, just sort of take some of 1:47:51.320 --> 1:47:53.320 those edges off and bring it. 1:47:53.360 --> 1:47:54.400 And it doesn't work. 1:47:54.840 --> 1:47:58.320 Yeah, this is a procedure and there is an actual formula, 1:47:58.760 --> 1:48:00.679 and you do sort of come in and you breathe 1:48:00.760 --> 1:48:03.679 humanity into it. But you have to honor the format 1:48:03.760 --> 1:48:05.840 of it as you're there to sort of get there's 1:48:05.880 --> 1:48:08.640 a messy desk. Over the course of the hour, you're 1:48:08.680 --> 1:48:11.040 going to put the desk in order onto the next desk. 1:48:11.280 --> 1:48:14.439 That's basically the procedure of it. If you're going to 1:48:14.479 --> 1:48:17.120 get technical, and that's part of the joy of the show. 1:48:17.240 --> 1:48:19.280 Big mess. These guys are going to clear it up. 1:48:19.200 --> 1:48:21.680 And you're going to guess along the way, and if 1:48:21.680 --> 1:48:23.360 the writing is really good, there's going to be a 1:48:23.360 --> 1:48:25.160 few red herrings and you're gonna have fund and by 1:48:25.200 --> 1:48:27.840 the end, you know, it's all going to get into 1:48:27.960 --> 1:48:30.720 nice and tidy. And I really had to embrace that 1:48:30.760 --> 1:48:33.240 because it's not the way. I think, as we discussed, 1:48:33.280 --> 1:48:37.639 I had more in common with the jazz guy than 1:48:37.680 --> 1:48:41.760 I did with Andy Eckerson by far. So it was 1:48:41.880 --> 1:48:43.680 and from that moment it was the first It was 1:48:43.720 --> 1:48:47.320 a very friendly, very generous and slightly brave thing for 1:48:47.439 --> 1:48:48.920 mers go to do, although I don't think it was. 1:48:49.000 --> 1:48:50.840 It took bravery for her, but I think there was 1:48:50.880 --> 1:48:53.800 a certain amount of kindness of just to say, let 1:48:53.800 --> 1:48:56.599 me just make a slight adjustment and was done because. 1:48:56.360 --> 1:48:58.880 We knew each other. Was totally fine. Usually it's that's 1:48:58.880 --> 1:49:02.160 something you to do indirectly. 1:49:01.800 --> 1:49:05.600 That's good form. But I and that adjustment really helped me. 1:49:07.280 --> 1:49:10.519 And uh, and then I came back. We'll do some 1:49:10.600 --> 1:49:12.800 other episode. But then I came back and played a 1:49:12.880 --> 1:49:13.840 rapist a couple of years. 1:49:14.240 --> 1:49:16.679 Yes, which is what we're going to talk about today. 1:49:17.360 --> 1:49:18.280 Oh was that the episode? 1:49:18.400 --> 1:49:18.559 Yeah? 1:49:18.680 --> 1:49:21.200 Yeah, yeah, we're going to talk about seen. But so 1:49:21.320 --> 1:49:24.679 was that her note like like lean into the format. 1:49:25.760 --> 1:49:26.080 It was. 1:49:26.160 --> 1:49:28.920 I don't remember specifically what she said, so I don't 1:49:28.920 --> 1:49:31.160 want to I don't want to give her short shrift 1:49:31.280 --> 1:49:34.680 because what she's I just remember it was there was 1:49:34.720 --> 1:49:37.599 no room for me to go, well, you know, actors 1:49:37.680 --> 1:49:38.400 don't tuck it. 1:49:38.400 --> 1:49:40.559 There was. It was very gently done. 1:49:40.680 --> 1:49:42.360 It was done with a sense of humor, which is 1:49:42.400 --> 1:49:46.240 how we've always communicated as a very funny person. And 1:49:46.320 --> 1:49:49.080 so it was done with whatever it was that she said. 1:49:49.120 --> 1:49:51.920 It was exactly the right adjustment that I needed. She's 1:49:52.080 --> 1:49:55.679 very intuitive and she gets I think she got here's 1:49:55.680 --> 1:49:58.280 a funny person who thinks he can bring this element 1:49:58.320 --> 1:50:04.240 of humor, which actually it runs contrary to the show. 1:50:04.439 --> 1:50:05.559 There's no time for that. 1:50:05.880 --> 1:50:08.200 How did it come about for you to come back 1:50:08.400 --> 1:50:08.720 to this? 1:50:08.880 --> 1:50:11.360 Like so you're on season five and twelve years later 1:50:11.439 --> 1:50:13.559 they're like, hey, come back on season seventeen and be 1:50:13.680 --> 1:50:18.200 this be this TV actor when you're that bully an outfit, 1:50:18.640 --> 1:50:20.400 it's like so funny, it's so sick. 1:50:20.680 --> 1:50:22.799 That was so so funny. 1:50:23.080 --> 1:50:25.880 Yeah, And because I had this also, it was very 1:50:25.960 --> 1:50:28.760 lay Miz and I had this funny history with lay 1:50:28.840 --> 1:50:31.200 Miz because at the beginning of my career. 1:50:31.280 --> 1:50:33.439 I got a touring production of. 1:50:33.479 --> 1:50:38.800 Lame miz and and I took a television pilot instead, 1:50:39.200 --> 1:50:39.880 as one would do. 1:50:40.040 --> 1:50:41.639 Yeah, And then I got and then I. 1:50:41.600 --> 1:50:43.880 Auditioned for Lamez again and everything, and it happened like 1:50:43.880 --> 1:50:46.880 two or three times I auditioned, got it, and then 1:50:46.920 --> 1:50:48.240 they were offering it to me, and I was like, 1:50:48.280 --> 1:50:50.040 every time they offer it to them, me keep offering 1:50:50.040 --> 1:50:50.680 because I end up. 1:50:50.600 --> 1:50:51.360 Getting a pilot. 1:50:51.920 --> 1:50:53.160 What part do you usually get? 1:50:54.160 --> 1:50:56.520 Well, I was a younger man, so that was for angourras. 1:50:56.880 --> 1:51:00.000 You know, that was the broke And now this hasn't happen, 1:51:00.080 --> 1:51:01.639 but I would love to do javert. 1:51:01.880 --> 1:51:02.120 Yeah. 1:51:02.320 --> 1:51:03.639 That to me is the role. 1:51:03.520 --> 1:51:06.400 Of you sing. You're a singer, I do sing. 1:51:06.520 --> 1:51:06.800 Yeah. 1:51:07.160 --> 1:51:09.760 Did you play the base for the Sex and the 1:51:09.760 --> 1:51:10.320 City partner? 1:51:10.320 --> 1:51:10.400 No? 1:51:10.840 --> 1:51:13.360 Actually I don't really play an instrument, although at the 1:51:13.439 --> 1:51:15.599 end I played the banjo and that was my banjo. 1:51:15.640 --> 1:51:17.479 I do play a little bit of the banjo. 1:51:18.040 --> 1:51:20.719 And so I when they said he disappears, and I said, 1:51:21.320 --> 1:51:23.360 if you want to do it, and this is this 1:51:23.400 --> 1:51:25.360 is a one time offer. I can't even believe I'm 1:51:25.360 --> 1:51:28.000 saying it, but I could sit naked behind the banjo 1:51:28.080 --> 1:51:30.400 because she was I think originally in the script, she 1:51:30.439 --> 1:51:33.120 comes out and I'm like I'm making a shake or 1:51:33.120 --> 1:51:35.120 something like that, or I'm cooking, and I'm just kind 1:51:35.120 --> 1:51:36.479 of like, I'll be right back. I'll come back and 1:51:36.520 --> 1:51:38.679 I'm like cooking a home meal for myself or something. 1:51:39.000 --> 1:51:41.080 And I said, I can do like a banjo's much 1:51:41.200 --> 1:51:43.080 quicker shot. You don't have all the elements. It was 1:51:43.120 --> 1:51:44.880 something like that, and they love that because it moved 1:51:44.880 --> 1:51:45.679 it along faster. 1:51:47.280 --> 1:51:51.759 Shameless special skills section of your resume. The banjo, that's exciting. 1:51:51.840 --> 1:51:53.559 Yes, naked banjo playing, Yeah. 1:51:53.439 --> 1:51:54.599 Naked banjo playing. 1:51:54.880 --> 1:51:58.760 So you come back to do season seventeen and how 1:51:58.800 --> 1:52:01.320 did that work? They just like said, you're I'm assuming 1:52:01.320 --> 1:52:03.080 they just like offered you this role and you were like, 1:52:03.400 --> 1:52:05.320 let's yeah, and you read the script and you were like, 1:52:05.360 --> 1:52:09.360 I've always wanted to play Bobby Demico, serial rapist, television actor. 1:52:10.520 --> 1:52:12.880 I had such a great time on that episode and 1:52:12.920 --> 1:52:17.200 I'm blanking on his name and he's a terrific actor. 1:52:17.280 --> 1:52:20.240 Raoul Asparza. Oh he played your lawyer. 1:52:20.760 --> 1:52:22.000 No, he played my buddy in it. 1:52:22.080 --> 1:52:23.880 Oh, the guy it's your buddy. 1:52:24.320 --> 1:52:28.200 Yeah, yeah, he put me to the trouble maker. I'm 1:52:28.280 --> 1:52:31.200 blanking on his name and I'm I wish that. First 1:52:31.240 --> 1:52:33.600 of all, he loaned me twenty bucks while we were 1:52:33.600 --> 1:52:35.519 shooting it. I needed twenty bucks to like get home 1:52:35.600 --> 1:52:37.439 or something like that, and it took me about four 1:52:37.520 --> 1:52:39.920 years to pay him back. I kept Jason finally I 1:52:39.960 --> 1:52:42.320 was able with Instagram, I was able to track him down. 1:52:42.400 --> 1:52:44.320 James Mattio, James mcadi. 1:52:44.560 --> 1:52:45.439 That was a Mattio. 1:52:45.640 --> 1:52:48.880 Yeah, he's so good and I just remember he made 1:52:48.880 --> 1:52:52.559 me laugh so much during the episode, which is such 1:52:52.600 --> 1:52:54.759 a gift when you're playing a character like that who's 1:52:54.840 --> 1:52:57.800 kind of a you know, an idiot and horrible and 1:52:57.880 --> 1:53:00.840 very and it was a dark episode, you know, that 1:53:00.920 --> 1:53:06.840 kind of thing when when it's something like that, it's. 1:53:05.760 --> 1:53:08.280 Some people deal with it differently. They can distance themselves 1:53:08.280 --> 1:53:08.799 and detach. 1:53:08.920 --> 1:53:10.760 There are some things that are easier to do for 1:53:10.840 --> 1:53:13.280 different actors, and that was one of those things more 1:53:13.320 --> 1:53:15.559 difficult for me to detach from with something where you're 1:53:15.640 --> 1:53:20.080 violating another human being like that, and knowing that the 1:53:20.120 --> 1:53:23.120 actress really has to go there and you're playing that 1:53:23.160 --> 1:53:26.160 person and you can't. You know, it doesn't matter whether 1:53:26.200 --> 1:53:28.439 it's real or not that while the camera's running, you've 1:53:28.439 --> 1:53:30.200 got to bring that energy or they can't. 1:53:30.479 --> 1:53:31.680 They have nothing to react, and. 1:53:31.640 --> 1:53:34.760 It's it's it's not you're not You're not going to 1:53:34.840 --> 1:53:37.679 go crazy if you're a rational, saying human being. It's 1:53:37.720 --> 1:53:39.960 what we do. But you're you're pulling things from your 1:53:40.000 --> 1:53:44.320 actual emotions. And so I do remember that was not pleasant, 1:53:44.520 --> 1:53:47.000 and what a godsend it was to have somebody like 1:53:48.080 --> 1:53:50.800 you know, James, who's just made me laugh all week. 1:53:51.040 --> 1:53:53.400 I remember telling me about his family. It just his 1:53:53.560 --> 1:53:57.840 Italian family, which was hilarious, and he really kept me 1:53:57.920 --> 1:54:00.960 laughing all week. And he be home one night, he 1:54:01.000 --> 1:54:03.680 got me, gave me like twenty bucks and then waiting patiently, 1:54:03.720 --> 1:54:06.360 and he didn't charge me interest when I paid him back. 1:54:07.400 --> 1:54:09.720 Yeah, you guys are definitely scumbags. 1:54:10.600 --> 1:54:10.840 Yeah. 1:54:11.880 --> 1:54:12.200 Yeah. 1:54:12.240 --> 1:54:15.800 And what's so kind of haunting about this episode too, 1:54:15.960 --> 1:54:18.080 is I wonder how long these two guys have been 1:54:18.120 --> 1:54:21.519 doing this and how much long they would have gotten 1:54:21.520 --> 1:54:24.160 away because they've been friends for decades and just have 1:54:24.280 --> 1:54:24.720 this bar. 1:54:24.880 --> 1:54:27.320 It's like so dark. 1:54:27.800 --> 1:54:31.120 It's so dark to use the same like lines every 1:54:31.120 --> 1:54:34.480 time too, Like it's that it's that scripted out, like ugh. 1:54:35.080 --> 1:54:37.320 You know, it was really disturbing because I think I'm 1:54:37.360 --> 1:54:41.120 not sure it might have been. Right after I did 1:54:41.480 --> 1:54:43.200 there was a TV show called Unreal that I. 1:54:43.120 --> 1:54:46.920 Did for We were obsessed with Unreal. 1:54:47.040 --> 1:54:50.560 Yeah, well it's certainly in the first season he's you know, 1:54:50.760 --> 1:54:54.960 but it was I was playing a lot of characters 1:54:55.000 --> 1:54:58.800 who were very abusive towards women. It's exactly the opposite 1:54:58.800 --> 1:55:03.840 of where my sentiments lie. So that's like when Unreal came, 1:55:03.920 --> 1:55:06.200 I was surprised at how much I love it because 1:55:06.200 --> 1:55:08.920 I hate those reality shows, but we would go off 1:55:08.960 --> 1:55:10.360 on a little bit of a tangent here. I just 1:55:10.440 --> 1:55:12.080 was surprised at how much I loved it. But I 1:55:12.120 --> 1:55:15.640 also I loved that it was so female centric, Like 1:55:15.680 --> 1:55:21.080 the Sex and the City experiment, I just experiment the episode. 1:55:20.280 --> 1:55:23.880 I got a real sense of what it was like 1:55:24.120 --> 1:55:27.720 to be a working female actress in Hollywood, which I 1:55:28.000 --> 1:55:30.600 had been obviously a guy working in Hollywood for a 1:55:30.680 --> 1:55:34.680 number of years. And Unreal I got to basically play 1:55:34.720 --> 1:55:36.920 the female part because it was about these two women, 1:55:37.040 --> 1:55:39.120 and it was you know, they're surprisingly at least at 1:55:39.120 --> 1:55:42.320 that point, very few shows like that that was centered 1:55:42.360 --> 1:55:44.680 simply around the world of women and the psyche of 1:55:44.760 --> 1:55:47.280 two women in the world that existed between them and 1:55:47.400 --> 1:55:53.040 explored their relationship, and the guys were fairly incidental, the 1:55:53.080 --> 1:55:57.680 ways that women have been incidental in lots of TV shows, 1:55:58.920 --> 1:56:04.600 except for the for this show and for you know, 1:56:04.720 --> 1:56:07.040 Sex and the City, but for most show, you know, 1:56:07.320 --> 1:56:09.600 I just basically I'm what is it? 1:56:11.240 --> 1:56:11.680 Uh? 1:56:11.920 --> 1:56:14.040 I can't remember the character from Dynasty, but based on 1:56:14.160 --> 1:56:17.800 Joan Collins, basically I never knew why I was walking 1:56:17.800 --> 1:56:19.960 into a room or where I was going when I left. 1:56:20.000 --> 1:56:21.840 I just knew I had to say something mean and 1:56:21.880 --> 1:56:24.120 cutting to the to the women, to give them someone 1:56:24.200 --> 1:56:26.840 to something to come up against, and that was really 1:56:27.040 --> 1:56:30.280 the function of it. So but again, the same thing. 1:56:30.320 --> 1:56:32.040 You got to play with one hundred percent commitment or 1:56:32.040 --> 1:56:34.480 all the scenery falls down and everybody's like, oh, it's 1:56:34.520 --> 1:56:35.080 all false. 1:56:35.480 --> 1:56:37.000 Wait, you just did Curb. 1:56:38.400 --> 1:56:40.920 Yes, how was that? It was great? 1:56:41.360 --> 1:56:45.640 I did you know when when Larry David left Seinfeld 1:56:45.680 --> 1:56:48.320 he did a movie for Castle Rock called Sour Grapes, 1:56:48.360 --> 1:56:50.880 and it was to this day the funniest script I've 1:56:50.920 --> 1:56:58.480 ever read, including any classic comedy, check off anything that 1:56:58.560 --> 1:57:01.640 I've ever read, any sitcom, any movie. The script for 1:57:01.760 --> 1:57:04.680 Sour Grapes, laugh out loud on every page, sometimes with 1:57:04.800 --> 1:57:08.480 just one word. There was one joke where he literally 1:57:08.560 --> 1:57:12.280 uses the word whom instead of who he's at whom, 1:57:12.560 --> 1:57:15.320 laugh out loud. Just such a funny script, and it 1:57:15.360 --> 1:57:19.840 didn't cook. It didn't bake. Uh. And then I went 1:57:19.880 --> 1:57:22.520 off to New York. I did The Music Man. After that, 1:57:22.640 --> 1:57:25.000 I stayed in touch with Larry on and off, and 1:57:25.040 --> 1:57:26.600 then years and years ago. 1:57:27.520 --> 1:57:31.040 We Love himah, the podcast We Love Him. 1:57:31.080 --> 1:57:34.400 Mister Dick Wolf in Chicago, your Dick Wolf in Chicago. 1:57:34.440 --> 1:57:38.520 He's your your man Wolf in Chicago. Uh and and. 1:57:39.960 --> 1:57:43.400 So yeah, But anyway, he called me at you know, 1:57:43.880 --> 1:57:45.880 I think Susie Esmond had seen me in a play 1:57:45.880 --> 1:57:48.800 read and said you should come out and do Curve. 1:57:48.880 --> 1:57:50.480 I was like, I'd love to do it. So she 1:57:51.240 --> 1:57:53.040 told Larry and it was the last season, and he 1:57:53.080 --> 1:57:54.240 wrote this little thing for me. 1:57:54.320 --> 1:57:54.760 I came out. 1:57:54.840 --> 1:57:57.480 I just was the guy sitting behind him in a 1:57:57.520 --> 1:58:01.080 movie theater and he puts his his coat over the seat. 1:58:01.120 --> 1:58:02.240 I'm like, you're in my area. 1:58:02.240 --> 1:58:06.440 It was just such a little but I remember shooting it. 1:58:06.480 --> 1:58:08.080 We shot it for about an hour and a half. 1:58:08.200 --> 1:58:12.520 It was just It's probably a thirty second bit, but 1:58:12.600 --> 1:58:14.120 we shot it for about an hour and a half 1:58:14.560 --> 1:58:17.680 and he couldn't keep a straight face. That's what I 1:58:17.760 --> 1:58:21.800 remembered was Larry David is a genius. And one of 1:58:21.800 --> 1:58:24.960 the things I love most about somebody like that is 1:58:25.840 --> 1:58:28.760 if the truly funniest people I've ever met, they have 1:58:28.880 --> 1:58:30.320 no problem if you make them laugh. 1:58:30.360 --> 1:58:31.839 They fall down on the floor laughing. 1:58:31.960 --> 1:58:36.000 And the scariest people are the comedians who lose their laughs. 1:58:36.760 --> 1:58:39.480 So you say something funny and they go, it's funny, 1:58:40.680 --> 1:58:44.120 They don't laugh anymore. They're just that's funny, funny, and 1:58:44.120 --> 1:58:46.360 you're like, you never hear them laughing. Were Larry David 1:58:46.400 --> 1:58:48.880 loves to laugh. You can see it in Curb that's 1:58:48.960 --> 1:58:51.880 him laughing. But when he's shooting it, he can't get 1:58:51.880 --> 1:58:54.480 through a take if you're funny, And of course I 1:58:54.600 --> 1:58:56.600 just wanted to make him laugh, so that's all it is. 1:58:56.680 --> 1:58:59.040 But I love doing it. I'm glad I got to do. 1:58:59.040 --> 1:59:01.360 A little bit on it, and then and so did 1:59:01.400 --> 1:59:03.400 Steven because it was Steven and I and sour Grapes 1:59:04.640 --> 1:59:07.440 and Steven was hilarious and Curb your enthusiasm. 1:59:07.440 --> 1:59:10.520 Of course he's great in the Chicago. What is it 1:59:10.840 --> 1:59:11.839 Chicago Hospital? 1:59:12.400 --> 1:59:16.600 Oh yeah, Chicago, the TV show Chicago med. 1:59:17.880 --> 1:59:19.760 I love Chicago, Dick Wolf. 1:59:21.000 --> 1:59:22.760 Chicago's beautiful this time of year. 1:59:23.760 --> 1:59:25.920 If you were to come back into the Dick Wolf 1:59:26.040 --> 1:59:29.720 universe or SVU, what would you want to come back as? 1:59:31.040 --> 1:59:32.920 Oh, I don't care. You know, that's the kind of 1:59:32.920 --> 1:59:36.800 thing where I was like wherever after a while. Now 1:59:36.840 --> 1:59:38.240 I've been doing this for a while, it's like, you 1:59:38.280 --> 1:59:41.600 know what he knows what he's doing. And first of all, 1:59:41.760 --> 1:59:44.480 if I was the right person, they would select me 1:59:44.600 --> 1:59:47.560 for something. You know, they know who I am. You 1:59:47.680 --> 1:59:50.200 just want to be the fork at the table. So 1:59:50.520 --> 1:59:53.040 I would say, if if I knew I could do that, 1:59:53.120 --> 1:59:56.200 whatever he chose for me to do would be the 1:59:56.280 --> 1:59:56.600 right one. 1:59:56.640 --> 1:59:58.360 He could choose it better. Like I have a friend. 1:59:58.400 --> 2:00:01.000 If I need to buy nice clothes, I don't have 2:00:01.040 --> 2:00:02.760 any sense of it. So I just call my buddy 2:00:02.760 --> 2:00:04.680 and he takes me down and we go buy nice clothes. 2:00:04.880 --> 2:00:07.080 And I buy something I would have never looked at, 2:00:07.120 --> 2:00:08.440 and I think I'm not gonna wear this. 2:00:08.520 --> 2:00:10.120 He goes, you'll wear this every day? And I do. 2:00:11.040 --> 2:00:12.800 And that's something I look like Dick Wolf you go. 2:00:13.080 --> 2:00:15.800 Just don't tell Dick Wolf what to do. If he's 2:00:15.840 --> 2:00:18.280 gonna use you, let him set you at the table. 2:00:18.320 --> 2:00:20.000 If he's gonna set you at the table where he 2:00:20.040 --> 2:00:22.800 sets you, that's right. I trust that no more than 2:00:22.840 --> 2:00:23.320 I used to. 2:00:23.520 --> 2:00:26.760 Yeah, a return of Andy Eckerson. 2:00:27.080 --> 2:00:30.040 I think America wants to know what to hear what 2:00:30.120 --> 2:00:30.840 Andy's up to. 2:00:30.880 --> 2:00:34.680 Because we do eventually need Detective Olivia Benson in a 2:00:34.720 --> 2:00:37.160 happy ending for the Love of God. 2:00:37.360 --> 2:00:39.000 Yeah, really like. 2:00:39.080 --> 2:00:41.280 The Final Spectacular movie. 2:00:41.520 --> 2:00:45.560 I know we needed Just in the Bahamas with like 2:00:45.600 --> 2:00:47.879 a nice guy Jesus Christ. 2:00:48.560 --> 2:00:50.680 We want to retire. They've killed everyone. 2:00:50.840 --> 2:00:57.920 Shot shot just me walking out of the surf. 2:00:56.480 --> 2:00:59.200 Mouth playing the band Joe naked behind. 2:00:58.960 --> 2:00:59.640 You with the band? 2:01:00.080 --> 2:01:01.720 Ye that what if it turns out to be that guy, 2:01:01.840 --> 2:01:06.360 He's well medicated. He's properly medicated across universe. 2:01:06.800 --> 2:01:07.080 Love. 2:01:09.320 --> 2:01:12.000 Will you tell us about this movie that you're going 2:01:12.040 --> 2:01:14.320 to be in coming up called the Debut, because that 2:01:14.480 --> 2:01:16.600 look I was reading about it and it looks really 2:01:16.600 --> 2:01:18.400 interesting with Julianne Moore. 2:01:19.240 --> 2:01:21.960 Well this is a little up and comer Julianne Moore, 2:01:22.200 --> 2:01:24.400 Oh my god, people are raped. I cannot wait. 2:01:25.600 --> 2:01:26.839 I'm in two brief scenes. 2:01:26.880 --> 2:01:29.720 I basically am I'm one of the guys who basically 2:01:31.920 --> 2:01:35.480 I'm there so you can see where she is in life. 2:01:35.720 --> 2:01:38.200 I'm one of the people who's who's sort of projecting 2:01:38.480 --> 2:01:42.920 how small and mousey she is. And and Patrick Fabian 2:01:42.960 --> 2:01:46.040 plays her husband. We're in a couple of brief scenes. 2:01:46.120 --> 2:01:49.080 I'm his friend and basically we're just she says, I'm 2:01:49.080 --> 2:01:51.560 going to do this play in musical theater and keeping 2:01:51.560 --> 2:01:55.760 community theater, and I'm just like, I hate musical theater, 2:01:55.880 --> 2:02:00.400 you know, just to give her something. Just all we 2:02:00.480 --> 2:02:03.600 do is diminish her. That's basically what we do. But 2:02:03.800 --> 2:02:06.160 she is so good and the movie, the script is 2:02:06.240 --> 2:02:10.040 so funny. I think people are gonna love this movie. 2:02:10.320 --> 2:02:12.880 Yeah, And I was there for two days. 2:02:12.880 --> 2:02:15.520 Got to spend two days with Julian Moore and Patrick 2:02:15.640 --> 2:02:18.120 and a couple of people that were just really you know, 2:02:18.120 --> 2:02:19.440 it was a terrific time. 2:02:19.960 --> 2:02:22.440 And did Jesse Eisenberg direct. 2:02:22.120 --> 2:02:25.200 Before wrote and directed it? He wrote and directed it. 2:02:25.320 --> 2:02:28.520 Yeah, that's exciting. I can't wait to see. 2:02:28.360 --> 2:02:33.080 This friendliest guy so bright. Yeah, it's a terrific guy. 2:02:33.760 --> 2:02:35.680 And I think he liked the idea that I did 2:02:36.400 --> 2:02:39.880 a lot of musical comedy, and that basically my whole line, 2:02:39.920 --> 2:02:40.640 and the whole thing. 2:02:40.520 --> 2:02:44.720 Is, I just can't stand musical What are you doing? 2:02:44.760 --> 2:02:47.920 That's so silly? People singing on stage, It's ridiculous. 2:02:48.600 --> 2:02:51.840 Are you in New York? I am, Yeah, I mean 2:02:52.040 --> 2:02:54.680 I'm in New York. The vibes are just electric this summer. 2:02:55.600 --> 2:02:57.240 Are you having the time of your life or what? 2:02:58.440 --> 2:02:58.760 I don't know. 2:02:58.760 --> 2:03:00.560 If love our. 2:03:00.440 --> 2:03:04.760 Mayor, I love our mayor. I love our teams, I'd 2:03:04.800 --> 2:03:07.040 love them regardless. And I'm not even a sports fan. 2:03:07.080 --> 2:03:10.240 I just love everything. I just love how together everybody is. 2:03:10.280 --> 2:03:13.320 I love what's going on with Pride right now and 2:03:13.360 --> 2:03:18.920 the word. You can probably tell where my sensibilities lie politically, 2:03:19.000 --> 2:03:21.680 but I'm I'm very encouraged, and I love being in 2:03:21.720 --> 2:03:22.120 New York. 2:03:22.400 --> 2:03:25.160 Yeah, thank you so much for talking to us, Craig. 2:03:25.240 --> 2:03:25.880 This was awesome. 2:03:27.920 --> 2:03:29.640 The debut because I was going to go see that. 2:03:30.200 --> 2:03:32.960 Yeah, Oh, the debut, And and another movie that I 2:03:33.080 --> 2:03:38.000 just finished just it's called the debut, the debut, it's 2:03:38.000 --> 2:03:43.400 called It's Day Book. Actually it's very very different. 2:03:43.080 --> 2:03:45.720 But it's this judaic movie and I just finished. 2:03:45.760 --> 2:03:48.160 It's beautiful, and that's all I'll say about it, but it. 2:03:48.680 --> 2:03:50.680 Sounds so much like the Debut. I was like, did 2:03:50.720 --> 2:03:51.480 you know the Debut? 2:03:52.320 --> 2:03:54.840 I got to listen to the end of the word really, wait, 2:03:54.880 --> 2:03:55.879 are you being serious? 2:03:56.320 --> 2:03:56.400 No? 2:03:56.520 --> 2:03:58.200 I did. I did this movie called the Debut. The 2:03:58.280 --> 2:03:59.400 day Book is this sort of. 2:03:59.320 --> 2:04:03.720 A it's a Hebrew demon, so it's a bit of 2:04:03.760 --> 2:04:08.320 a Gothic horror. It's beautiful, it's a love story, it's 2:04:09.200 --> 2:04:11.080 and it's I saw some footage from it. 2:04:11.080 --> 2:04:15.320 It's absolutely stunning. But yeah, so much the Tuba debut 2:04:15.400 --> 2:04:16.320 and debut. 2:04:16.480 --> 2:04:18.760 D ybb U can now if I could just get 2:04:18.760 --> 2:04:20.480 in a movie called Duluth, I would have my. 2:04:20.600 --> 2:04:24.120 Chi cross for all of them. At the same time. 2:04:24.480 --> 2:04:27.240 We're both Jews. I've never heard of this demon. I'm 2:04:27.280 --> 2:04:30.640 so into spooky things. I can't wait to get a 2:04:30.720 --> 2:04:31.120 Jew too. 2:04:31.120 --> 2:04:32.200 And I had never heard of it. 2:04:32.240 --> 2:04:34.240 If you look it up, it was a The Debook 2:04:34.440 --> 2:04:36.760 is a it's a demon, but it was a play. 2:04:37.360 --> 2:04:40.520 It's based on a play from the nineteen early nineteen ten, 2:04:41.200 --> 2:04:45.400 nineteen twenties, I think, but it's it's been updated and 2:04:45.480 --> 2:04:48.080 it's it's quite beautiful and very haunting. 2:04:48.320 --> 2:04:51.080 Like I said, I've seen some footage and it's really stirring. 2:04:51.480 --> 2:04:55.080 And you you rapped, you just rapped. 2:04:55.600 --> 2:04:56.080 Just finished. 2:04:56.160 --> 2:04:59.440 Yeah, the only time I've heard the word well, I 2:04:59.480 --> 2:05:01.840 heard it, so that is dibbik is in Waiting for 2:05:01.880 --> 2:05:05.520 God it's I think, yeah, in Waiting for gofman Uh, 2:05:05.720 --> 2:05:09.760 Eugene Livy's character does say dibic Schmidbick I said more ham, 2:05:09.920 --> 2:05:13.280 but it's like it's like an improvised like jokes. 2:05:13.960 --> 2:05:16.120 A lot of debate. There was a lot of debate. 2:05:16.240 --> 2:05:18.520 Is it dibik or is it the book dbook? 2:05:19.160 --> 2:05:21.920 And it depends on whether you're Sephardic or ashke Nazi. 2:05:22.000 --> 2:05:24.200 So it got like every time I had to say 2:05:24.200 --> 2:05:26.400 it in the movie, I was a little apprehensive. You 2:05:26.440 --> 2:05:30.320 can like let go so the like you can actually 2:05:30.320 --> 2:05:35.480 see me trying to figure out how so the pronunciations vary. 2:05:35.640 --> 2:05:38.440 Yeah, it's really cool and I'd never heard of it before. 2:05:38.480 --> 2:05:41.400 But it's a really it's a kind of a haunting, 2:05:41.440 --> 2:05:43.200 beautiful story, you know. 2:05:43.800 --> 2:05:44.120 Cool. 2:05:44.800 --> 2:05:46.960 Thank you, grank you, this was wonderful than you for 2:05:47.080 --> 2:05:49.680 letting me walk down memory lane with you. 2:05:49.680 --> 2:05:50.040 Guys. 2:05:54.240 --> 2:05:56.080 Love him. I did too. 2:05:56.200 --> 2:05:58.080 I just remembered something that I should have brought up 2:05:58.080 --> 2:06:00.400 in the intro. But we're going to do it post. 2:06:00.400 --> 2:06:03.880 But I do love jazz Man. He was so fun, charismatic, hot. 2:06:04.080 --> 2:06:08.840 It was great, funny, yeah, funny. I finished Song of Achilles. 2:06:09.240 --> 2:06:11.880 I finished the book, cried for an hour and a 2:06:11.920 --> 2:06:14.360 half before I watched After Hour in a game. It 2:06:14.400 --> 2:06:18.520 was July third, finished it in bed and everyone was right, 2:06:18.800 --> 2:06:21.440 and I cried alone for about an hour and a 2:06:21.440 --> 2:06:22.360 half before leaving. 2:06:22.520 --> 2:06:24.320 I sort of love a book where you get like 2:06:24.360 --> 2:06:27.160 a big like I remember finishing a prayer for Owen 2:06:27.240 --> 2:06:30.160 Meani on a plane when I was like twenty and 2:06:30.480 --> 2:06:33.200 covering myself in a blanket and like crying underneath the 2:06:33.200 --> 2:06:34.760 blanket for at least like a half an hour on 2:06:34.800 --> 2:06:36.480 a flight. They probably thought I was scared of flying 2:06:36.560 --> 2:06:40.240 or something like it. It's it's very cathartic. It feels 2:06:40.360 --> 2:06:40.680 kind of good. 2:06:40.840 --> 2:06:41.840 Well, because everyone. 2:06:41.640 --> 2:06:43.600 Kept stopping me being like you're gonna get destroyed, You're 2:06:43.600 --> 2:06:45.080 gonna cry, You're gonna cry, Oh my god. 2:06:45.120 --> 2:06:46.760 And so I was like kind of annoyed by everyone. 2:06:46.800 --> 2:06:48.680 And there's a pracacy in it, so you kind of 2:06:48.680 --> 2:06:50.200 know what's going to happen, and I was just like, 2:06:50.760 --> 2:06:52.640 what the fuck like it, We'll probably not. And then 2:06:52.680 --> 2:06:55.280 it actually took me somewhere else that I didn't see 2:06:55.320 --> 2:06:59.560 coming at all, and no One's annoyingness did fuck me up, 2:07:00.080 --> 2:07:02.600 and it did hit me in a huge way. I 2:07:02.720 --> 2:07:05.760 was like, just couldn't handle them, couldn't handle it. So 2:07:05.760 --> 2:07:09.200 I'm gonna get her next book. Circe and our friend 2:07:09.240 --> 2:07:11.640 Allison Libey's books out today. So I'm gonna, hopefully after 2:07:11.680 --> 2:07:13.360 we record, go to the bookstore and see if I 2:07:13.400 --> 2:07:16.680 can find them. My copy is arriving today. I had 2:07:16.680 --> 2:07:21.880 to change the Adam want to. Yeah, yeah, so we'll see. 2:07:21.960 --> 2:07:24.240 So I'm gonna take a stroll around, but I'm gonna 2:07:24.240 --> 2:07:26.320 buy Circe, even though I have so many books and 2:07:26.360 --> 2:07:28.400 I'm reading Michel Neckberth's. But I did finish Song of 2:07:28.440 --> 2:07:31.280 Achilles and I loved it. So people wanted to know 2:07:31.560 --> 2:07:34.760 the people that d me you were I loved it. 2:07:35.000 --> 2:07:37.000 I loved it. That sounds like a great book. 2:07:37.720 --> 2:07:42.320 Yeah, okay, So post mortem this episode, I mean, the 2:07:42.320 --> 2:07:44.640 post mortem is everything we've talked about on this podcast 2:07:44.640 --> 2:07:46.880 since the day we started, which is like men and 2:07:47.000 --> 2:07:48.840 men should not be given any power they don't know 2:07:48.840 --> 2:07:51.680 how to handle it without becoming sexual predators. 2:07:52.360 --> 2:07:56.520 Uh, and yeah, I don't know. 2:07:56.560 --> 2:07:59.440 I guess I just like I knew Cosby was kind 2:07:59.480 --> 2:08:01.440 of doing this for a long time, but I didn't 2:08:01.520 --> 2:08:04.760 really realize that it was like almost fifty years before 2:08:04.760 --> 2:08:07.920 he saw like a second of retribution and then even 2:08:07.960 --> 2:08:12.320 then he didn't really get that much punishment. He's out, 2:08:12.640 --> 2:08:17.080 So it's just like disheartening how the rich. It feels 2:08:17.080 --> 2:08:19.840 crazy that Weinstein has stayed in jail, Like there must 2:08:19.920 --> 2:08:22.280 be so much evidence on him that he's stayed in 2:08:22.360 --> 2:08:24.760 jail because he has so much money that he could 2:08:24.800 --> 2:08:27.480 just appeal appeal, appeal, appeal and figure out loopholes like 2:08:27.480 --> 2:08:30.040 what happened with Cosby, and he hasn't, so there. 2:08:30.000 --> 2:08:32.760 Must be enough on him. Yeah, it's like the Danny 2:08:32.800 --> 2:08:34.000 Mattaway person of it all. 2:08:34.840 --> 2:08:38.320 Yeah, there must, like if somebody like big goes away, 2:08:38.680 --> 2:08:42.440 you know, there's a lot on them, because honestly, it 2:08:42.480 --> 2:08:46.040 feels like seventy five percent of the justice system is 2:08:46.040 --> 2:08:51.920 like rich people paying their way out of it. But uh, yeah, 2:08:51.920 --> 2:08:53.000 I don't know if there's any. 2:08:52.880 --> 2:08:55.920 Like tell on your friends, tell on your friends, stopping 2:08:55.920 --> 2:09:02.200 friends with bad people like actually stand for something of God. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 2:09:02.240 --> 2:09:04.000 And I don't know, go with your gut and like 2:09:04.120 --> 2:09:07.000 listen to I just feel like sometimes with rumors about men, 2:09:07.200 --> 2:09:09.480 famous men and stuff like where there's smoke, there's fire, 2:09:09.760 --> 2:09:15.440 like just like be like careful wary of somebody who's 2:09:15.480 --> 2:09:18.840 like famous or rich or in a higher position than you, 2:09:18.880 --> 2:09:21.280 like taking a weird interest in you to be like 2:09:21.560 --> 2:09:23.840 you know, it's hard because it's like have confidence you 2:09:23.920 --> 2:09:26.120 are great. Maybe your boss just loves you, but also 2:09:26.200 --> 2:09:31.280 maybe they're a predator and trying to do something illegal 2:09:31.360 --> 2:09:32.760 and traumatizing who knows. 2:09:33.480 --> 2:09:33.680 Yeah. 2:09:33.640 --> 2:09:36.280 I hate when people take their own experience with someone 2:09:36.360 --> 2:09:39.200 as like fact for everyone else's experience with them. 2:09:39.240 --> 2:09:41.960 It really makes no sense. Yeah, guess what. 2:09:42.640 --> 2:09:45.120 When I met Matt Lower in Jerino, he was wonderful 2:09:45.120 --> 2:09:46.640 to me and gave me six bottles of wine. Do 2:09:46.720 --> 2:09:49.400 I believe some of the stories I've read about him? 2:09:49.800 --> 2:09:50.080 I do. 2:09:51.240 --> 2:09:55.000 I do believe them. It's like people contain multitudes. Uh, 2:09:56.480 --> 2:09:59.400 so let's get into what would Sister Peg do this week? 2:10:00.000 --> 2:10:01.840 This is our weekly segment where we point you to 2:10:02.720 --> 2:10:07.200 an organization, an article, a book, something to give you 2:10:07.240 --> 2:10:09.560 more information about what we talked about in today's episode. 2:10:09.680 --> 2:10:11.360 And I wanted to point you to the article that 2:10:11.400 --> 2:10:16.600 I referenced, the twenty fifteen New York magazine Tight article 2:10:16.640 --> 2:10:19.400 titled I'm No Longer Afraid. Thirty five women tell their 2:10:19.440 --> 2:10:21.720 stories about being assaulted by Bill Cosby and the culture 2:10:21.760 --> 2:10:24.800 that wouldn't listen. This article goes in depth on all 2:10:24.840 --> 2:10:27.040 these survivors' stories. Like I said, I mean, if I 2:10:27.120 --> 2:10:30.520 had there's enough in the Cosby case to be like 2:10:30.560 --> 2:10:32.920 a full twenty episode podcast. So we just don't have 2:10:33.040 --> 2:10:35.560 enough time on this podcast. But if you're interested in 2:10:35.600 --> 2:10:38.720 going more in depth on him, this article does that. 2:10:39.000 --> 2:10:43.760 And if it wasn't already obvious, the article illustrates what 2:10:43.760 --> 2:10:47.360 a rampant and serreal rapist he was. So just if 2:10:47.440 --> 2:10:49.480 you want to hear more about the victims stories and 2:10:50.200 --> 2:10:52.480 probably where some of them are now and what they're doing, 2:10:52.480 --> 2:10:55.080 I mean, I think like the only silver lining is 2:10:55.120 --> 2:10:56.640 I feel a lot of a few of them have 2:10:56.720 --> 2:11:01.280 become really big activists on the on sexual assault, and 2:11:01.320 --> 2:11:03.840 I think we can always use more voices speaking up 2:11:03.880 --> 2:11:07.280 for that, So that will be linked in our show 2:11:07.280 --> 2:11:11.080 notes as usual and then uh shared as a story 2:11:11.120 --> 2:11:14.560 the day the episode comes out, and those stories are 2:11:14.600 --> 2:11:18.960 saved forever on our Instagram highlights that are labeled WWSPD 2:11:19.240 --> 2:11:22.400 and our Instagram is that's messed up, pod, Get. 2:11:22.200 --> 2:11:22.720 On over there. 2:11:22.840 --> 2:11:26.040 Wait are you so excited that Trixy and Katya are 2:11:26.040 --> 2:11:27.920 going to be recapping All Star season two? 2:11:28.960 --> 2:11:31.680 I didn't know that episode. I didn't know they were 2:11:31.680 --> 2:11:33.080 doing that because I've been on this road trip. So 2:11:33.120 --> 2:11:36.160 I just today caught up on I'm now only two behind. 2:11:36.640 --> 2:11:39.200 I'm just started the Robbie Hoffman episode. Oh my god, 2:11:39.280 --> 2:11:45.120 yeah I am, I'm ex I yeah, I'm stuttering. 2:11:46.200 --> 2:11:49.360 I'm so happy to revisit probably one of the best 2:11:49.400 --> 2:11:52.080 series of television that's ever existed, All Stars two. 2:11:51.960 --> 2:11:53.720 Well and makes such a good point. 2:11:53.800 --> 2:11:55.160 She's like that was the first time where it's like 2:11:55.160 --> 2:11:57.280 the voting and all like they created the rule like 2:11:57.360 --> 2:12:00.240 they like because everyone who's done All starts sin. It's like, 2:12:00.280 --> 2:12:02.160 you know, there's gonna be trickery in this and that, 2:12:02.240 --> 2:12:07.000 and like it really was the switch of everything, and 2:12:07.040 --> 2:12:09.800 it was just like they used to wait so long 2:12:10.560 --> 2:12:13.080 with All Stars that you've got this like really like 2:12:13.160 --> 2:12:15.920 big deep pool of like really talented queens and like 2:12:16.240 --> 2:12:18.320 not to say that there's not now, but like now 2:12:18.360 --> 2:12:21.040 it's basically like new season All Stars, New Season All Stars, 2:12:21.080 --> 2:12:25.040 and so the second has like some of the biggest talents, 2:12:25.040 --> 2:12:28.960 Like I love it so much. Oh yeah, I'm just 2:12:29.000 --> 2:12:32.280 thinking about you wrote you at the end, just thought 2:12:32.280 --> 2:12:35.000 about read you wrote you and got excited. And then 2:12:35.080 --> 2:12:40.280 next year, JK, next week we'll be doing assumptions. Next year, 2:12:42.800 --> 2:12:47.160 next week we'll be doing assumptions. Season twenty, episode twenty three. 2:12:47.240 --> 2:12:50.960 Have I watched it yet, Like, I don't know. Yes, 2:12:51.040 --> 2:12:55.280 we've already done the full recap. Hon, Yes, yes, you 2:12:55.400 --> 2:12:59.920 have watched it. I'm telling you, I've never had a 2:13:00.040 --> 2:13:00.720 summer like this. 2:13:03.040 --> 2:13:05.840 Maybe you have to start scheduling in your calendar some 2:13:06.000 --> 2:13:07.560 nights to just stay home. 2:13:07.680 --> 2:13:08.040 I don't know. 2:13:08.040 --> 2:13:10.320 I napped during the day. I napped during the day. 2:13:10.400 --> 2:13:12.200 I no, but I was planning on going on. I 2:13:12.200 --> 2:13:13.440 was like, oh, I'll do my spot and I'll go home, 2:13:13.480 --> 2:13:14.560 and then I was and then my friend was like, 2:13:14.600 --> 2:13:16.840 I'll meet you for one, and then cut to him 2:13:16.880 --> 2:13:19.160 having five fucking pints of gin and soda. 2:13:19.280 --> 2:13:23.160 You know, I'll meet you for one. 2:13:23.200 --> 2:13:25.440 In the summer is like just feels like a lie 2:13:25.480 --> 2:13:26.680 that everyone's telling themselves. 2:13:28.000 --> 2:13:33.080 But that's exciting. It's the summer of fun. Baby, we'll 2:13:33.120 --> 2:13:35.400 see you guys next week. Thank you so much for listening. 2:13:36.360 --> 2:13:48.040 Bye That's Messed Up as an Exactly Right production. If 2:13:48.040 --> 2:13:50.560 you have compliments you'd like to give us or episodes 2:13:50.600 --> 2:13:52.320 you'd like us to cover, shoot us an email it 2:13:52.440 --> 2:13:55.880 That's Messed uppod at gmail dot com. 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