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Speaker 1: Leading Off Live. No wait, it's not, it's Cleaning Up Live.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. It's a whole other show, Welsh, and

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Speaker 1: you know where it is. It's on our discord everybody.

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Speaker 1: So if you want to hang out with me and

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Speaker 1: the Welsh, talk about your fantasy baseball teams, talk about live,

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Speaker 1: just drop your comments in there. But that's kind of

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Speaker 1: a lame to just drop your comments. We like the comments.

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Speaker 1: We want to talk to you. We like to get

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Speaker 1: us every single day over on the Leading Off side.

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Speaker 1: So that's what cleaning Up is all about. So take

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Speaker 1: advantage of the day in baseball too. Also kind of

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Speaker 1: looking at some of the things we saw yesterday on

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Speaker 1: We saw Francisco Alvarez come back, so that's a piece

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Speaker 1: I could see people who dropped him in single catcher leagues.

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Speaker 1: Would you be adding Alvarez back to rosters this week?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yeah. Catcher's a disaster, you know, everybody's you know,

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Speaker 2: William Contreras should be the hottest bat is on your roster.

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Speaker 2: You should just burn and churn unless you've got a

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Speaker 2: no brainer. I mean, like guys, I guess like Salvi,

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Speaker 1: All right, years from Blaney, go fast? Ohapi, Murphy or

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Speaker 2: Who do you like Murphy?

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Speaker 2: Why? Because he's better?

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Speaker 1: All right? Nate wants to note, can I drop al

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Speaker 1: I would play Alvarez. I would you find making that

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Speaker 2: I easletly agree with you on easy.

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Speaker 1: couple of hands again, raise your hand. We'll bring up

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Speaker 1: your DRM has entered the chat RM, sliding into our DMS.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Drm? Hey?

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Speaker 4: Can you guys hear me here?

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Speaker 1: You great? Ken? What's going on?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 2: Perfect?

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for letting me on.

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Speaker 2: You guys are great, Thanks man, what's up?

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Speaker 1: Thank you for I like that you said you guys

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Speaker 1: and didn't just single out the Welsh.

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Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I didn't single anybody out today.

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Speaker 2: Someone did it on the football feed though, Joe when

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Speaker 1: The Joe's treatment, DRM. What do you have for the

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Speaker 4: I'm in the twelve team keeper Dynasty League. I'm in

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Speaker 1: One, Like I think you nailed it. Well, that's the trap.

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Speaker 1: need a keeper plus that elite starter Welsh. That's my call.

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Speaker 2: trade right, Like that's the type that you should be considering.

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Speaker 2: Where you're like, holy crap, I can't not say yes

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Speaker 1: It's a buck game?

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Speaker 1: You are on the stage with Welsh and Joey p

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Speaker 1: What do you got hey?

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Speaker 3: Gentlemen, how are we doing today?

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Speaker 1: It was supposed to use that term gentleman loosely.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm in a fourteen team

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Speaker 3: redraft and I know we've been talking about Nobella Marte

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Speaker 1: Is the one?

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Speaker 1: But I don't know Welch.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's not eligible to come back, I think

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Speaker 1: Like we're getting close here, boys and girls. It's any

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Speaker 2: I also think James Wood couldn't be That's a really

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Speaker 3: Wait, yeah, I think everyone will jump on it. I

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Speaker 1: Ah, there you go.

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Speaker 2: So is there legit? Nobody else you could get rid of?

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Speaker 3: I mean team league, it's fourteen team and I got

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Speaker 2: Well what's your bench? Who's on your bench that?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're not even playing well fourteen team three bench?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I'll tell you this, when James

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Speaker 1: In a fourteen team league because I know he's gonna

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Speaker 1: Wood's got to come back, come back healthy, and then

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Speaker 2: I mean maybe any level. Eddi Rosario is still hitting

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Speaker 2: under two hundred, so I can't get over that.

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Speaker 1: I do. Look, well, you're preaching the choir here with that.

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Speaker 1: I just think Marte is the guy that I want.

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Speaker 1: It's a fourteen team league. It's deep. I need guys

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Speaker 1: you get would and Marte can help you again, like Welshit,

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Speaker 1: if you could add both or find a way to

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Speaker 2: I would I would hold off right now, and I

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Speaker 2: would hold off. I would just wait to see.

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Speaker 1: Like the more people raising their hands, I want to

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Speaker 1: get to some of the chat ones too. Eric wants

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Speaker 1: to know, please help me figure out what to do

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Speaker 1: about Nico Horner. Well, Eric Welsh told you not to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you're asking me, what do you

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Speaker 2: do about Nico Horner, I don't know. Figure something else out.

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Speaker 2: He's not very good. He's consistently hurt. If the injuries

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Speaker 2: are serious. I think Matt Shaw could come up soon

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Speaker 2: if there's like viable stuff out there available.

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Speaker 1: Impro is David fry cooling off? Is he still a hold?

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Speaker 2: at David fry re. I want to say the construct

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Speaker 2: of David fry I would not want to give up on.

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Speaker 2: He's still hitting over three hundred eight homers, four stolen bases,

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Speaker 1: Rock and Roll Royalty has entered the chat. Joe van Halen,

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Speaker 1: Joe Welcome a board buddy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe, Oh, Joe.

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Speaker 1: Come on, Joe. It would be amazing if Joe just

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Speaker 2: Ban the mile.

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Speaker 1: Leading off. Come on, Joe going once, Joe going twice. Joe.

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Speaker 1: we'll get Joe back. Joe, We'll get you back. I mean,

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Speaker 2: That was pretty great. No, don't appreciate it. Don't do that.

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Speaker 1: It's very nice of you to say such things for me,

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Speaker 1: You know, Garcia has been gundhy. I'm gonna let you

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Speaker 1: here's Joe van Halen in the chat. So Joe did

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Speaker 1: show up here in the chat? What was everyboy's favorite

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Speaker 1: kind of lead to play in? Mine is roto auction.

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Speaker 1: I love the salary cap format. It's my favorite. I

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Speaker 1: always prefer that in my fantasy leagues. I know the

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Speaker 1: But Welsh, what about you? I'm a points league guy.

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Speaker 1: Everybody knows that like points. I like the auction slash

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Speaker 2: Literal opposite? I hate auctions, but that is because I

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Speaker 2: So auctions are great. If I played in one league

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Speaker 2: be fun. No, don't like points. I'm not a points

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Speaker 1: Cats. Head to head.

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Speaker 1: You know what I hate the most about it? Well,

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Speaker 1: Just that Skiins is the top ten pitcher. Now we're

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Speaker 2: I'm not over top ten hitters. No, they all get hurt.

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Speaker 1: Right, very well? Twelve teen points league, last roster spot

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Speaker 2: It might be Bos, but I'm gonna say Hunter Brown

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Speaker 1: All right, here's one from Nate dropped Cherio to Stash Marte,

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Speaker 1: two weeks. I'm okay with this, Welsh.

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Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not. I'm buying it was my trade thing.

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Speaker 1: not give me the picture, but schemes, I mean, the

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Speaker 1: upside of schemes is enormous. But again, I guess you

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Speaker 1: could say the same thing about Strider and we know

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Speaker 1: how that worked out too. Yesterday from the board, Welsh,

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Speaker 1: you did see the braves get shut out. There any

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Speaker 1: concerns here with the braves, the Akunya Les braves here

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Speaker 1: as we hit closer and closer to the midway mark

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Speaker 1: of the season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they need to be aggressive. Their offense

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Speaker 2: has been putrid for like over a month. Matt Olsen

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Speaker 2: has not gotten things back together. I think now. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I know, I keep going through it, but this is

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Speaker 2: a team that needs to go and be aggressive with

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Speaker 2: one of those moves. But the only problem is they

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Speaker 2: don't have the assets A lot of these other guys do,

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Speaker 2: so they might be auditioning, you know, Swelly Balls and

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Speaker 2: Waldrip and a J. Smith Shaver. I think you go

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Speaker 2: take two of those guys, ship them out and go

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Speaker 2: and get yourself something impactful on the offensive side, and

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Speaker 2: it probably looks like a Luis Robert, even though I

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Speaker 2: don't know if they need that at this point, and

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Speaker 2: then you're just filled. But yes, they should go and

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Speaker 2: make a movie because I would be concerned about that audience,

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Speaker 2: about that offense.

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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty intriguing also that we got you know,

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Speaker 1: we've talked about on the show today that those National

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Speaker 1: League Rookie of the Year odds. I'm looking at him

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Speaker 1: again and some of the other spots here really starting

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Speaker 1: to close in a little bit on betting pros. I

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Speaker 1: just did kind of like a fifteen minute thing last

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Speaker 1: week about the awards, which again is such a quick

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Speaker 1: moving market. Things have really changed. Cy Young is still

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Speaker 1: Zach Wheeler plus one eighty in class and I'll plus

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Speaker 1: eight hundred, so big variants there. Scooble is a plus

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Speaker 1: one thirty. Burns plus four forty, so that one two

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Speaker 1: race right now.

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Speaker 2: I still love that Burns well. I got Burns at

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Speaker 2: the beginning of the year at plus seven fifty, and

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Speaker 2: I still think that's I think I think he's going

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Speaker 2: to be able to close that gap as the season

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Speaker 2: goes on.

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Speaker 1: Louis Heal a minus money minus one thirty five, Mason

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Speaker 1: Miller plus three seventy. You know, it's funny Welsh when

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Speaker 1: we were joking around the show before about pitchers winning

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Speaker 1: Work of the Year, some of those pitcher names were relievers,

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Speaker 1: a lot more relievers like the Devin Williams and the

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Speaker 1: Craig Kimberl's like a lot more than I really had, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, recalled basically why at Lang are still selling

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Speaker 1: out there? Plus twenty three hundred. I think that's a

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Speaker 1: gold mine, I really do. I think it's right there

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Speaker 1: comeback Player of the Year is always interesting one. Carlos

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Speaker 1: Rodin at the top of plus one forty five, Flawerty

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Speaker 1: a plus three forty Any love there for either of

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Speaker 1: those two?

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Speaker 2: Ooh, what are the next two names? Do you have

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Speaker 2: two more names from me?

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Speaker 1: Logan o'hapi and Vinnie Pascal Wentino? How you the win?

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Speaker 2: Then he's interesting.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: If Flarerty comes back, he's got a good opportunity. It's

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Speaker 2: just funny. The two comeback player he hears are guys

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Speaker 2: that might go right back and come back on the

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Speaker 2: il like they're both injury risks. But I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think if Flaherty were to continue, it's her.

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Speaker 1: Chris Sale on the National League side minus four to

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Speaker 1: twenty already pretty incredible like he has been he has

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Speaker 1: been as advertised. Reliever of the Year is a fun award.

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Speaker 1: Two h class a minus won seventy five, Mason Miller

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Speaker 1: at plus three forty on the National League side of

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Speaker 1: Reliever of the Year, Ryan Helsley at plus one ninety

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Speaker 1: five and Robert Suarez at plus two forty. So it's

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Speaker 1: another one that just popped up recently. But yeah, and

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Speaker 1: look an MVP right now again American League, it's still

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Speaker 1: Aaron Judge at the top of the board. Gunner at

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Speaker 1: plus five hundred, he is now leapfrog officially won Soto.

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Speaker 1: That's already happened as well, So lots of movement there

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Speaker 1: and no inpo Re Garrett not on the Reliever of

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Speaker 1: the year board right now. But look, is this a

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Speaker 1: time to be buying the one Sodo a plus five

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Speaker 1: fifty or a time to be buying Jose Ramier is

511
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Speaker 1: a plus twenty seven hundred.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not buying the I'm I'm out on the

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Speaker 2: Jose Ramirez thing. Also, these you know, these fall into

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Speaker 2: popularity awards and stuff like that, it's gonna be a

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Speaker 2: Yankee or it's Gunner. Like, I'm with what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: I think SODA's a really interesting buy right now because

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Speaker 2: of the odds. Gunner just continues to stand out to me.

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Speaker 2: If this Oriole team is aggressive again, they've got the

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Speaker 2: bullets to go make moves. If they keep winning games,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, you might have the MVP and the

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Speaker 2: cy Young Award winner come out of Baltimore. I don't

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Speaker 2: think it'd be shocking, except if the Yankees keep their pace.

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Speaker 2: How is it not gonna go to one of those outfielders.

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Speaker 2: I'm not one hundred percent sure how it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Also interesting another leap frog, So Mogi Bets still at

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Speaker 1: the top of plus one forty five, which again I'm

527
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Speaker 1: not touching, but Bryce Harper now moved ahead of Showy

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Speaker 1: Otani plus four forty to Otania plus four fifty. Now

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Speaker 1: that's interesting because I keep saying the same thing, which

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Speaker 1: is Otani and Betts kind of split votes a little bit,

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Speaker 1: and Harper I think can sneak right in there and

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Speaker 1: win another MVY.

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Speaker 2: Oh you think it's hard. I actually think that's a

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Speaker 2: good opportunity for Otani. If Altani just goes on all

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Speaker 2: those tears, well for fit I mean, he's Joey Otani,

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Speaker 2: you might put up forty five homers, twenty something plus

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Speaker 2: thirty stolen bases, leading this team into maybe one of

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Speaker 2: their better records theoretically. Mookie Bets, I think moving positions

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Speaker 2: is a big thing. But like, if Atani doesn't slow

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Speaker 2: his pace, he's like he's the NL one Soto. It's

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Speaker 2: just one of those guys. It's like if you see

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Speaker 2: get the whole season total, even if he's on a

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Speaker 2: team with another great player. I think they could view

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Speaker 2: Otani as that guy, and Otani would get the benefit

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Speaker 2: if they clean up their pitching as well. So I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying I like you have to bet him, But

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Speaker 2: if I'm getting like four to one odds on Otani

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Speaker 2: in that close of a race, I actually think that's

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Speaker 2: not a bad bet. I might take that, all right.

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Speaker 1: So interesting stuff flying around here right now on the

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Speaker 1: betting market side of things. To win the muricanly, the

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Speaker 1: Yankee still plus one eighty, the Orals a plus five hundred.

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Speaker 1: I like the Orioles. Frankly, I still think the oh'ser,

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Speaker 1: you know, the team to be. We'll see Yankees not

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Speaker 1: perform well in those big spots in playoffs. The Phillies

556
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Speaker 1: a plus two seventy, the Dodgers a plus one thirty.

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Speaker 1: You know me, Welsh, I still love those fighting Phills

558
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Speaker 1: and I like them to win the World Series too,

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Speaker 1: and they were a plus six hundred to do that.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any feelings. I know we're, you know,

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Speaker 1: not quite at the halfway mark, but where do you

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Speaker 1: kind of see some of these usual suspects at the

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Speaker 1: top where you think there's a dark horse that's gonna

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Speaker 1: get hot and enter this chat.

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Speaker 2: I definitely think there's a dark horse out there. I

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Speaker 2: think it's too early. Especially it comes down to also

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Speaker 2: like how aggressive do these teams want to be with injuries?

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Speaker 2: Like the Phillies are going to get Tray Turner back soon.

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Speaker 2: Nola has pitched well, Wheeler is pitching really well. I

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Speaker 2: mean the Phillies I think they're scary. They're really scary.

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Speaker 2: The Braves are not. Right now.

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Speaker 1: The rotation scary. Let me tell you, dude, Philly rotation scary.

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Speaker 1: And then on top of that, home field advantage is scary.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the few that exists in baseball. It

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Speaker 1: really is a home that.

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Speaker 2: We imagine if they go out and they were to

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Speaker 2: make a big mom what if they were to go

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Speaker 2: get Mason Miller? You know what I'm saying. What if

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Speaker 2: they were to They've got prospects to sell. What if

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Speaker 2: they were to go out and get a Mason Miller

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Speaker 2: to put into that rotation? Maybe go buy some rental.

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Speaker 1: Back cost a painter, what cast some Andrew Painter to do? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Might? And what are the Phillies care? He hasn't pitched

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Speaker 2: for them in like two years. So it's like go trade,

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Speaker 2: go trade Painter and something else and go get your

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Speaker 2: closer for forever and beyond, and then you can move

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Speaker 2: guys like Alvarado and stuff into a setup role. I

588
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Speaker 2: think that might be a pretty good move for not

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Speaker 2: that I guess the closing has been a big issue

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Speaker 2: for them, but if you're gonna have these great starters,

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Speaker 2: have a bullpen that is going to lock that.

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Speaker 1: Down, Jamila will be very exciting that crowd to really

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