WEBVTT - FLAME MONROE - Succotash

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<v Speaker 1>Hmmm, y'all had all the booby.

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't got I don't have boobs, so I got them.

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<v Speaker 2>I had them for like three seconds when I had

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<v Speaker 2>a baby.

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<v Speaker 1>I borral man. They alone, They going back.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 2>Coleen Wit and today we have Emmy nominated flaming role

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<v Speaker 2>in the building comedian, actress, writer, entertainer, podcaster. Also, what's

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<v Speaker 2>what's the name of your podcast? Learn? You guys could

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<v Speaker 2>check her out on the Black Effects. So today what

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<v Speaker 2>do you have us eating?

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<v Speaker 1>She forgot dad, mom, brother.

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<v Speaker 2>It's sad because I did leave that out on purpose.

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<v Speaker 2>But then no, that is probably the hardest title, right

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<v Speaker 2>that is that is.

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<v Speaker 1>The hardest, the most joyful, and the most pain.

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<v Speaker 2>And how many kids you?

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<v Speaker 1>Three? Three? He wasn't playing just wait, I wouldn't with

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<v Speaker 1>tight with it out mistakes, not at all. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for having me. Hello everyone, eating Eating Broken. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what we're gonna have? This is what I ate when

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<v Speaker 1>I was broken.

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<v Speaker 3>Scutas suckutash is a poor man's meal, but it will

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<v Speaker 3>feel you up.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you how do you spell that sucker tash?

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<v Speaker 3>Now you asked me some difficult questions, sucker tash. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking it's s U C c A T t

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<v Speaker 3>A s h.

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<v Speaker 2>I think did you make it up?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely not. My grandmother May used to make this all

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<v Speaker 3>the time. It was a bunch of us, so she

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<v Speaker 3>had to stretch it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so what are the ingredients?

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<v Speaker 3>So the ingredients actually is our whole curnel of corn cutokra,

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<v Speaker 3>a tomato, onion, green pepper, celery, and whatever season you

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<v Speaker 3>season to taste however you want. And usually bacon. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't see the bacon up here, and you put it

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<v Speaker 3>over a bit of rice.

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<v Speaker 2>We do have bacon, and you.

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<v Speaker 3>Can imagine feeding about nine kids screaming and it will fill.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was healthy because it was ventance.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, because I saw Okrah. And when I saw Oprah,

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<v Speaker 2>I said.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh heck no. I'll tell you about okrah.

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<v Speaker 3>Y'all young kids say macaroni and cheese. Let us all

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<v Speaker 3>here say Okrah. I'm gonna let you sit on there

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<v Speaker 3>and think about that for a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>Something. You have to be very good at cooking. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna tell you a little story. Okay. My mom is

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<v Speaker 2>Jamaican and she would do the whole Okrah thing. It's

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<v Speaker 2>my mama was a great cook. But me and my

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<v Speaker 2>siblings would band together that every time the Okrah rent

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<v Speaker 2>like came to the front of the freezer, it was

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<v Speaker 2>like someone's job to go and hide it to the

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<v Speaker 2>back of the freezer. And that was the job of

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<v Speaker 2>us kids, was just to hide the Oprah and she

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<v Speaker 2>would never find it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it's pretty tasteless though.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is flimey though well, and then okay, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I was in North Carolina with Nick Cannon and blimey.

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<v Speaker 1>I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was out there and I had told him like,

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<v Speaker 2>I really hate Okra and he was like, you ain't

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<v Speaker 2>never had fried Okra? And I said, okay, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take one for the team. And I still hated it,

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<v Speaker 2>So I can't mess with Okra. So I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>gracefully take this one for the team for eating while broke.

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<v Speaker 2>But we do have bacon. Do you want me to

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<v Speaker 2>like bacon?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? Please? Because bacon is the starter.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So we're now back, So we have your

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<v Speaker 2>apple with bacon, all right, So let's get the cooking.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me drop a little olive oil here, saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I brought you a gift before I get started.

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<v Speaker 1>I brought you a fan.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, what is your face? I want to see you

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<v Speaker 3>pop it too? Here we go, Hey, what is that?

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<v Speaker 1>What is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Can't bitch do what I do?

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>This is this is the this is gonna be the

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<v Speaker 2>model for the rest of my life.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody mindset is what he's she we That is my

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<v Speaker 3>own preferred pronoun. He's wet because I pretty much feel

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<v Speaker 3>like they kick me out the community. I got my

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<v Speaker 3>own pronoun. Man stands for he cast the check, she

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<v Speaker 3>make the money. We spent the same person saying the

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<v Speaker 3>same person?

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<v Speaker 2>Is I like that? I like that?

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<v Speaker 1>I cover all the bases?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that you?

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<v Speaker 1>That is me?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>And in my sexty day, I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Young, So you started out. So let's kind of take

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<v Speaker 2>it back to you call it succotash circuit circuitans. So

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<v Speaker 2>what was going on in the era of sutash.

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<v Speaker 3>We were living in the projects of Chicago on the

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<v Speaker 3>West Side and hearing horn the projects. My grandmother Big

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<v Speaker 3>jip That's what everybody called my grandmother, Big Jipu. She

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<v Speaker 3>was my grandmother ran guns, so candy, uh so women

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<v Speaker 3>so drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>This was the gains of other.

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<v Speaker 3>Projects, and it was a bunch of grandkids. She had

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of grandkids, so she had to stretch food

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<v Speaker 3>out in between when it was high and low.

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<v Speaker 1>My grandma was a blu leg My grandmother is a pimp.

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<v Speaker 1>I love my grandmother. May she rest in peace.

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<v Speaker 2>And she raised you.

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<v Speaker 3>She pretty much raised my mama. Was bucked while my

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<v Speaker 3>mom was out doing her thing. My mother was seventeen

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<v Speaker 3>when she had me, so she was a kid. And

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't understand that when I was a kid, But

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<v Speaker 3>now that I have my own children, I get. I

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't imagine my daughter, who's nineteen, having a baby now

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<v Speaker 3>because she's not responsible at all. So I can only

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<v Speaker 3>imagine what Valerie was like. That's my mother, Valerie. So

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<v Speaker 3>my grandmother stepped up, you know, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>black grandmother's back then, not only just black. I'm weller,

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<v Speaker 3>that is how you say it in Spanish.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, you look like I'm so well.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, a lot of grandmothers had to step up to

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<v Speaker 3>help raise the grandkids because the moms were young, or

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<v Speaker 3>they were working, they were trying to better themselves, to

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<v Speaker 3>make a better life. So my grandmother stepped up and

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<v Speaker 3>it was but I was the first grand baby. I

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<v Speaker 3>was the most spoiled, and I was the most loved.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope my other my other siblings don't hear that.

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<v Speaker 2>I guarantee you and you'll get that random phone call.

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<v Speaker 2>So this was the signature edition Grandma's house.

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<v Speaker 3>This was the poor man's meal when money was tight

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<v Speaker 3>and we knew money was this how we But she

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<v Speaker 3>would always like fry a big thing of chicken wings.

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<v Speaker 1>Chicken wings was dirt cheap back then. Good guy, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Could get a whole bag of chicken wings and feed

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<v Speaker 3>the family of twelve for fat dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Fat dollars, my bag. You want chicken wing needs to

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<v Speaker 1>go around? Good God.

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<v Speaker 2>Yesterday's prices, Yeah, yesterday's prices. So you grew up with

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<v Speaker 2>your grandmother. How did you get into comedy? How did

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<v Speaker 2>you get into the entertainment?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What was that first step?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? I never I could not sing, I couldn't dance.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, what a lot of people don't know about me

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<v Speaker 3>is that when I graduated high school, I graduated CVS

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<v Speaker 3>High School in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a four year music scholarship to the Cookman.

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<v Speaker 1>I played the obo.

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<v Speaker 3>I was in All City Orchestra and man, I almost

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<v Speaker 3>set first chair to us at second chair.

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<v Speaker 1>What instrument the obo?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what that is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a double ree instrument. I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I was masterful at it. My teacher, mister Harold Anthony Bradman,

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<v Speaker 3>he rest in peace, just was a teacher that was

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<v Speaker 3>diligent and the things that he got away with as

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<v Speaker 3>a teacher back then he would be under the jail

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<v Speaker 3>with now. But it instilled such a drive in us,

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<v Speaker 3>and we wanted to make him plou proud. We wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to please him because we could see the smile of

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<v Speaker 3>pride on his face when we did a great job.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I think that's what's missing with teaching now.

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<v Speaker 3>The teachers, a lot of teachers, not all, because it's

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<v Speaker 3>still some great teachers out here, don't want the children

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<v Speaker 3>to show pride. You show the pride the kid makes

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<v Speaker 3>you proud. It makes the kid a better kid. To

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<v Speaker 3>me life, it's too soft to now everybody get a ward.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh everybody didn't get a war. When I was a kid.

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<v Speaker 3>If you didn't do well, you got okay, we'll see

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<v Speaker 3>you next time. It made you thrive to do better

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<v Speaker 3>and be better to all these kids and everybody. Get

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<v Speaker 3>a ward.

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<v Speaker 1>Little Johnny, it's not deserve board. He was too slow.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so yeah, that's low heat.

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<v Speaker 1>I got it on low heat. Let me.

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<v Speaker 3>I ain't got my real glasses on the girl. I

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<v Speaker 3>can't even see you right now.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when you get old like hair.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll put it on four. Yeah, there you're good.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna see you don't even want you don't

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<v Speaker 1>even cook? Girl. What's the name of this show? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Cook? I thought sleep on me?

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<v Speaker 1>Guys.

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<v Speaker 3>So what you do is you saw you get to

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<v Speaker 3>bake it heated up, and then you start start tearing

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<v Speaker 3>the onions and bell pepper and celery with it as

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<v Speaker 3>it heats up, because then you get all the flavors going.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you season the veggies and the meat while

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<v Speaker 3>they're in there, and you add the corn and the

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<v Speaker 3>the tomatoes and the celery, I mean the okra last,

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<v Speaker 3>because the okra takes no time. It's just pretty much steamed.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, is there a reason why you went my frozen

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<v Speaker 2>corn and frozen okra?

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<v Speaker 3>Because it's quick and I got three kids not being

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<v Speaker 3>a hurry. But when you got time, you got time

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<v Speaker 3>to shut the corn and roll with tomato. Get cut

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<v Speaker 3>into dice the tomatoes up.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't got time for that girl. Three kids, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>two of the same age and they're not twins.

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<v Speaker 2>How oh, never mind, just.

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<v Speaker 1>You forget already.

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<v Speaker 2>I got olds at the same time, two different.

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<v Speaker 1>And both my baby mama's named Tasha.

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<v Speaker 2>I know someone that their baby mama's one named the

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<v Speaker 2>kid Aja and the other one named the kid a.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, two different baby mamas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I said, they must have been beefing, but your

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<v Speaker 2>baby mama's got along well it well, probably not.

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<v Speaker 1>Know each other like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But both of their names was Tasha, but their names

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<v Speaker 3>weren't Tasha when I met them.

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<v Speaker 1>See, both my baby mamas are very masculine.

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<v Speaker 3>Stood girls like so that you know, we all come

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<v Speaker 3>up with our own name.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm flaying that ain't my legal name.

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<v Speaker 3>So I didn't know they was Tasha's until after the

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<v Speaker 3>deed had been done.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Wow, So you and all your baby mamas get

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<v Speaker 2>along with.

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<v Speaker 3>My son's mom who my first born, my son, Jamaicas,

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<v Speaker 3>His mom passed last year from diabetes. But my other

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<v Speaker 3>my daughter's mom two daughters. Yeah we cool, We okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the truth. Okay, we're okay, And I can say

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<v Speaker 3>that now because there was a time I couldn't say that.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a time we were feuding and bitter because

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<v Speaker 3>I got full custyer other kids the entire time. But

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<v Speaker 3>that's not what we were feuding about.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, were you a young mom?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I was thirty seven when I had my

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<v Speaker 1>first baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, you like me?

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<v Speaker 3>I was, you know, because I watched my mother, my aunties,

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<v Speaker 3>who all had children young, lose their lives. Not lose

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<v Speaker 3>like they died, but they were never able to live

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<v Speaker 3>and thrive. So I knew I wanted a family of

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<v Speaker 3>my own, but I wanted to be flaming roofus as

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<v Speaker 3>long as I could before I did that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was so. You know, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>go when they get older.

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<v Speaker 3>They say, oh, I'm reliving my childhood. There's no need

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<v Speaker 3>for me to relive my childhood.

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<v Speaker 1>I did.

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<v Speaker 3>I was playing my whole twenties. I didn't have a

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<v Speaker 3>baby to thirty seven, so I was allowed to be met.

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<v Speaker 3>But I am ready to be an empty nester again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh your kids still live with you?

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<v Speaker 1>Hell? Yeah? What? Your pandemic slowed everything? Down, including them.

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<v Speaker 2>So your kids grew up Now I'm gonna go a

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<v Speaker 2>little deep with it. So your kids grew up in

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<v Speaker 2>an environment having a situation that's not traditional I guess

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<v Speaker 2>in the world sense when they were going through it,

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<v Speaker 2>like cause right now we're in a world where trans

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<v Speaker 2>and all all this is like it's actually almost in

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<v Speaker 2>everything you turn on. You turn on the TV, commercials, movies, whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But your kids grew up in an era where that

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't the norm.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Well, I don't know if it was an era.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not only twenty. They just grew up in the

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<v Speaker 3>house with me, you know. And will I say that

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<v Speaker 3>we grew up together? Probably yes, you know, even though

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<v Speaker 3>that I was thirty seven, I never had kids, but

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<v Speaker 3>I had a baby brother that I raised, so it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't like I was, you know, new to its just

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<v Speaker 3>having my own. And then I thought that me and

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<v Speaker 3>my my daughter's mom were going to be married and

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<v Speaker 3>be together and be in love. And because I love

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<v Speaker 3>that woman with everything in me, but she didn't love

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<v Speaker 3>me back. I realized after the fact that I had

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<v Speaker 3>two children with somebody who never loved me.

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<v Speaker 2>You had two children.

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<v Speaker 1>With somebody who never loved me, how do you figure that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, you don't figure it while you're in it,

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<v Speaker 3>because love is blind, and you take way more than

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<v Speaker 3>you should.

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<v Speaker 1>That's anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But when I got out of it and I realized

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<v Speaker 3>the things that she could say to me, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think that didn't say Dick could say to me what

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<v Speaker 3>she did, I realized this person never loved me. You

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<v Speaker 3>know a lot of us put love and all this

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<v Speaker 3>emphasis on love and oh they love me, and you

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<v Speaker 3>take abuse, and it don't always have to be a

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<v Speaker 3>physical abuse, it really does. Mental abuse is to me

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<v Speaker 3>is way more damaging because you can't the pain don't stop.

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<v Speaker 3>You hit me in my arm. That pain gon hurt

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<v Speaker 3>now gonna eventually go away, But them words that cut

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<v Speaker 3>the scars of your heart don't never go away. That's

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<v Speaker 3>why I tell people all the time, I'm not afraid

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<v Speaker 3>of a new love. I'm a picturepad of that old

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<v Speaker 3>hurt because I loved this woman with everything in me.

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<v Speaker 3>But it just didn't work. But I did get cussy

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<v Speaker 3>other kids. I was happy, and we had and the

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<v Speaker 3>kids still talk to her. They always have talking. I

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<v Speaker 3>never stopped them from talking.

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<v Speaker 2>To Okay, okay, perfect, So you you're going to school

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<v Speaker 2>for music, how do you transition from there?

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<v Speaker 3>So let me tell you when I went to so

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm from the c Chicago. I'm from Chicago. And

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<v Speaker 3>if I was speaking like I got a list, I

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<v Speaker 3>got five screws in my mouth right now. So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>getting into implants. I'm in the process of process, and

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm speaking weird to me. But I was born

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<v Speaker 3>and raised on the West Side. I was educated on

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<v Speaker 3>the South Side. I came out on the North Side,

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<v Speaker 3>but I did my best work on the East Side.

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<v Speaker 1>That's me being koy.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't even know I wanted to play music. I

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<v Speaker 3>went there was a in the band in CBS High

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<v Speaker 3>School band. The years that we were there, I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>going to tell you all the years do the manu.

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<v Speaker 3>We were the number one band in the country. We

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<v Speaker 3>were invited to d C and everywhere to play because

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<v Speaker 3>I band director Harold Bray was such a fantastic teacher

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<v Speaker 3>and I went into it was called the be Have.

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<v Speaker 3>I went in one day. I was really really short

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<v Speaker 3>that in high school until I came a junior, I

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<v Speaker 3>was only like fort eleven OAU.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, you're what you're like? You got to be

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<v Speaker 2>like six. No, no, no, I'm only five, only five eight.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm only five.

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<v Speaker 3>A look, I just have a big princi I'm sure,

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<v Speaker 3>and I wear really high heels on stage because I

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<v Speaker 3>want to be really tall. I envy tall people. That's

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<v Speaker 3>what I always wanted to be. I always wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>be tall. Everybody thinks I'm really tall. I just got

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<v Speaker 3>a big ass mouth and a big you know shape. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>let me stick keep starting my food and uh. I

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<v Speaker 3>went in and I just joined the band.

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<v Speaker 1>And it gave me because I didn't have a dad

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<v Speaker 1>at home.

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<v Speaker 3>My mom was on drugs for such a long time,

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<v Speaker 3>and gave me a family that was my first outside

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<v Speaker 3>of my real friend because my uncles and I were

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<v Speaker 3>gangsters and my aunties was out doing anything. So it

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<v Speaker 3>gave me a sense of family and community. So I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, it was God dignos exactly what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Whenever you think you're wrong or you're on the wrong

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<v Speaker 3>path of things ain't going the way you want him

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<v Speaker 3>to go. I promise you he know what he's doing,

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<v Speaker 3>and when you get to where he wants you to

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<v Speaker 3>get to, he's going to let it all reveal itself

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<v Speaker 3>to you. That I did it this way for this reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you'll have an aha moment, Yeah, like.

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<v Speaker 3>Why did I join the band? And then way out

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<v Speaker 3>later I'm like, wow, that was a great experience. Then

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<v Speaker 3>you know, so it was out he always knows what

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<v Speaker 3>he's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we questioned it, but so you joined this band.

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<v Speaker 3>Joined the band started off with the saxophone. Then I

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<v Speaker 3>moved to the clarinet, and then I moved to the flute.

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<v Speaker 3>Saxophone was my first joy, I thought, so was the clarinet,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the food I was really good at. But

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<v Speaker 3>then Harold Brace say, Marcus, that's how it used to

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<v Speaker 3>call my name. I want you to try to oboe.

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<v Speaker 3>It's because you're a good reader of music. Because I

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<v Speaker 3>could read the music really quickly, and I hated to

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<v Speaker 3>think it gave.

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<v Speaker 2>Me a headache.

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<v Speaker 3>I read not only in trouble clip not a base clap,

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<v Speaker 3>because you have to roll your lips in to blow,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was very hard.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't roll my lips. I'm like, that hurts.

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<v Speaker 3>But when I got it, it was something about the

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<v Speaker 3>instrument would just soothe me. So whatever drama was going

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<v Speaker 3>on at home, whatever disrespectful names I was being called

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever abuse I was going through in my own house.

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<v Speaker 3>My instrument brought me peace. So that's why I touched it.

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<v Speaker 3>Since I left high school.

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<v Speaker 2>I do have whatever disrespectful names you recalled.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, my mother was quite abusive. She was.

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<v Speaker 3>My mother was on drugs though, and she my grandmother,

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<v Speaker 3>was abusive to her, from what she tells me. And

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of times we don't understand that, especially when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to mothers. We don't know what what they

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<v Speaker 3>went through growing up. And when you were a kid,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't give a damn. You want my mom to

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<v Speaker 3>be nice to me. I don't know what your mama

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<v Speaker 3>did to you. Yeah, because I'm too young to understand that.

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<v Speaker 3>But a lot of times parents need to stop thinking

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<v Speaker 3>that these kids don't hear and see everything. Because kids

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<v Speaker 3>here and see everything. Talk to them like their little adults.

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<v Speaker 3>They are one day they will be adults. They're just

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<v Speaker 3>little people. They're not babies. They're little people. Sometimes you

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<v Speaker 3>got to give it to it. And I wish my

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<v Speaker 3>mother would have told me being why she was so

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<v Speaker 3>angry and so hurt and so broken, and then you

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<v Speaker 3>take the shit out on me, you know. But a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of times we don't know, and we don't understand

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<v Speaker 3>that as children until we get older, and some of

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<v Speaker 3>us cannot forgive that. Now me and my mother's relationship

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<v Speaker 3>has been completely repaired.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, yeah we did.

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<v Speaker 2>We both did the work to prepair it. Or did

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<v Speaker 2>you just do a whole lot of forgiving on yourself?

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<v Speaker 3>We both did a lot of forgiving on us. I

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<v Speaker 3>had to talk to my mother to understand why she

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<v Speaker 3>was so angry and so mean all the time. It

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't about drugs. It was about either a man or

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<v Speaker 3>she what my grandmother put her through, but she broke.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't a girl, so the cycle. You can't do

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<v Speaker 3>to me what she did you. But the name she

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<v Speaker 3>called me was some of those names. Those names hurt

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<v Speaker 3>to this day.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a question, and this is an off off

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<v Speaker 2>topic question, but as a parents in questions is someone

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<v Speaker 2>new parents, do you agree it's better for a kid

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<v Speaker 2>not to see the parents show any emotion or do

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<v Speaker 2>you think it's okay for a kid to see parents

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<v Speaker 2>go through emotions?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, you should show you if.

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<v Speaker 2>You should, like if I cry? Should I? Is it

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<v Speaker 2>okay to cry in front of a child or is

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<v Speaker 2>it not okay? You hide and protect.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it makes a child more attenked to you

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<v Speaker 3>because when my mother used to cry when I was

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<v Speaker 3>a baby or when I was a kid, I would

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<v Speaker 3>cry too because my mother was my mother was hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt that emotion.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that this world that we live in now

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<v Speaker 3>is trying to make us touch free and emotionless.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you should show your children child emotions. How

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<v Speaker 1>is it going to pass on?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So you know if you if something hurts you, you

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<v Speaker 3>cry about it. If something bothers you, you want to

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<v Speaker 3>speak up about it now.

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<v Speaker 1>So why would not show all of them?

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<v Speaker 3>When you're happy, it's a happy emotion, So why would

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<v Speaker 3>you show all the emotions?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? Everything is not a dai

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<v Speaker 1>of emoji to stay new generation.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just thought because with kids, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>assumption is, you know, uh, I guess you just want

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<v Speaker 2>to like protect them from.

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<v Speaker 1>The world that we live in.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't protect your kids from going to the grocery store, church,

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<v Speaker 3>or school because you don't know what's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>What you have to do is be the best you

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<v Speaker 3>that you can be. There is no book, There is

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<v Speaker 3>no right or wrong way. There is a wrong way

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<v Speaker 3>to be a parent, But there is no correct way

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<v Speaker 3>to be a parent. You be the parent that you

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<v Speaker 3>want that you want. That's the best thing you can do.

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<v Speaker 1>Be the parent that you want.

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<v Speaker 2>So after music, where does comedy? Is comedy? The next step?

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<v Speaker 2>Like where is? I feel like something had to happen

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<v Speaker 2>between music?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what I had a girl? Drag? I started doing drag.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what made me know that I was

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<v Speaker 3>quick with it was when we were in high school

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<v Speaker 3>we played the dozens. You know, we used to play

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<v Speaker 3>this game called beat Yo Coup Chae, beat Yo.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Flame. I'm having fame, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>that I got good games, okay yo, Mama is lame. Okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So when we were on the.

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<v Speaker 3>Bad buses, because we used to do the games and

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<v Speaker 3>we were all together, it was just great fun.

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<v Speaker 1>And looking back on that, I'm like a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these kids because.

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<v Speaker 3>They they on their phone, they don't even look at

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<v Speaker 3>each other, and I'm like, they don't never understand what

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<v Speaker 3>that was like. And I'm glad I have those memories.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope I never lose my memory. I can lose

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<v Speaker 3>my dad mad, but I want to lose my memory.

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<v Speaker 2>So in those interactions you started to I.

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<v Speaker 3>Real fell out because I had to fight girl. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>if you did too bad, they will fight you. So

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<v Speaker 3>I used to get beat up.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of times.

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<v Speaker 2>At the point.

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<v Speaker 1>You're some boy was a gay boy.

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<v Speaker 3>I was the openly gay boy. And I was always sissy.

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<v Speaker 3>I was always assistant. That's not everybody would that's sissy Marcus.

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<v Speaker 3>But I was always me because my grandmother in stead

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<v Speaker 3>just be happy, just be just be happy. She knew

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<v Speaker 3>I jumped double dutch. I was the best jumping up

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<v Speaker 3>double dutch rope jumper and everything. But and I got

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<v Speaker 3>into a lot of fights. But it was a different

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<v Speaker 3>type of bully, and it toughened me up. And also

0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:28.520
<v Speaker 3>nobody died. You know, we didn't have the internet to say, oh,

0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:30.879
<v Speaker 3>a hundred people say you you funny looking, and a

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<v Speaker 3>hundred people agree with it. First of all, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know the person who said it, and damn show don't

0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:37.800
<v Speaker 3>know the other hundred that agreed with it. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>just it was a different time, and I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>it made me strong. And then when I got out

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<v Speaker 3>of high school, because it took me five years to

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<v Speaker 3>get ou of high school, did you catch that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's because I wouldn't go. I wasn't going. My mother

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<v Speaker 3>was going. I moved out and everything, and so I

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<v Speaker 3>was doing my own thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Grown for real, but I wanted my high schoo It

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<v Speaker 3>was the Plumber because my band teacher told me to

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<v Speaker 3>come back. He begged me to come back to school. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that's why I said that. Man was great to me.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I started doing drag shows. We were We

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<v Speaker 3>graduated high school and I took a year to go

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<v Speaker 3>to a little like a little local college. It was

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<v Speaker 3>some kind of word processing thing. I was good at typing,

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<v Speaker 3>but I didn't want to do that. I discovered the

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<v Speaker 3>night life and we started going to the gay bars.

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<v Speaker 3>And I went to this club called the Baton Show

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<v Speaker 3>Lounge in Chicago. The Baton is still around too. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a female impersonation club and girl, I saw these men

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<v Speaker 3>dressed up as women, and I was fascinated.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't believe it. I was like, I never do that.

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<v Speaker 2>You said you wouldn't do that.

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<v Speaker 3>I said I would never do that. Halloween came. I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't want to be a clown. I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>be a fire Trucker. I wanted to be a girl

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<v Speaker 3>good goud, I said, I was gonna do it one time.

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<v Speaker 3>Here we are thirty some years later, cities and Jesus,

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<v Speaker 3>that's why I tell people all the time, you never

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<v Speaker 3>know what your life, where life is going to take you,

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<v Speaker 3>So don't make decisions that are that you can't take.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, so he started with the drag and then

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<v Speaker 2>so how long are you doing the drag for it?

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<v Speaker 2>So when you say doing drag, like that's not.

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<v Speaker 1>A career, right, Oh my god, that was a career.

0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:12.040
<v Speaker 2>So you would make money doing I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I did the drag shows in Chicago. So and then

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<v Speaker 3>let me tell you, I never wanted to be on

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<v Speaker 3>the microphone.

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<v Speaker 1>We would.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just one of the one of the one

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<v Speaker 3>of the girls, one of the players. They always had

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<v Speaker 3>to host. My sister Tasha Thomas, May she rest in peace.

0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:26.440
<v Speaker 3>Ages took a lot of my friends in the agies.

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<v Speaker 3>Took a lot of my friends.

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<v Speaker 1>And she was like.

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<v Speaker 3>When I first did drag, the very first time, it

0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:36.119
<v Speaker 3>was at the Baton, But then I went to the

0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:38.800
<v Speaker 3>black club, it was called Club Laray, the greatest club ever,

0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:41.520
<v Speaker 3>and I did a Teina Marie song you make love

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<v Speaker 3>like springtime.

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<v Speaker 1>Remind you. I did the Black Song at the White

0:23:44.000 --> 0:23:46.240
<v Speaker 1>Club and the White song at the Black Club. This

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<v Speaker 1>is this is me wow.

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<v Speaker 3>So uh, she said, what did you do, baby, I

0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:52.520
<v Speaker 3>said the attend She looked at me, she said, yeah, baby,

0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:53.760
<v Speaker 3>drag ain't for everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh girl, my heart was broken. I was so hurt

0:23:59.280 --> 0:23:59.840
<v Speaker 1>behind that.

0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:03.760
<v Speaker 3>But I wasn't hurt to a point because Harold Bray,

0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:07.040
<v Speaker 3>the teacher, had made me tough. I wasn't hurt to

0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:09.360
<v Speaker 3>a point where I'm gonna go home and I ain't

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<v Speaker 3>gonna never do drag again. I'm gonna stick my head

0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:13.760
<v Speaker 3>into saying I was at the point of, oh, but

0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:15.920
<v Speaker 3>you don't tell me what I can't do. I'm gonna

0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:19.399
<v Speaker 3>show you. Yeah I did, and I got better and better.

0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:22.280
<v Speaker 3>And so then she got into a fight with another

0:24:22.320 --> 0:24:24.560
<v Speaker 3>young lady at the club. Okay, and the frank corner

0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:25.960
<v Speaker 3>my business.

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<v Speaker 2>For anyone that doesn't know, And I'm gonna say anyone

0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:29.920
<v Speaker 2>because me, I'm gonna say for me when you say

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<v Speaker 2>drag queen, because I kind of know and I kind

0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:34.480
<v Speaker 2>of don't. So I've been to a club and I've

0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:38.240
<v Speaker 2>seen drag queens at like Hamburger Marie in La. Yeah, okay,

0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:40.480
<v Speaker 2>and they performed. So when you say you did drag,

0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:42.640
<v Speaker 2>that's what you were doing. Your performing, you're on stage. Okay,

0:24:42.640 --> 0:24:43.040
<v Speaker 2>I got it.

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<v Speaker 3>But we had a different breed of drag. I was

0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:48.159
<v Speaker 3>to me was very different. This is a very different

0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:50.880
<v Speaker 3>era of drag. But so we were at a club

0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:53.240
<v Speaker 3>called the Clubhouse. Tatter got into a fight with another

0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:55.119
<v Speaker 3>young lady named Casey. Makes you rest in peace? I

0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:57.640
<v Speaker 3>told the agent through out of my friend. And so

0:24:57.800 --> 0:25:00.920
<v Speaker 3>a guy named Mark, the manager, Tino guy, came in

0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:03.000
<v Speaker 3>a judgement. He said, Tash, she got suspended night. We

0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:05.560
<v Speaker 3>need a host. So we all live in the mirror puting.

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<v Speaker 1>Now make up on it.

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<v Speaker 3>I ain't paid no attention because that was never something

0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:10.199
<v Speaker 3>I was going to do. He says, flame you do it?

0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:12.880
<v Speaker 3>I said, oh, absolutely not. He said, well, I said,

0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:14.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm horrible on them, like, I don't want to talk

0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:14.920
<v Speaker 3>to these people.

0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know them.

0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:17.440
<v Speaker 3>They want to see me be a girl. They don't

0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:19.440
<v Speaker 3>want to hear me talking nothing. So I went out there.

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<v Speaker 3>I did he put He forced me, I give you

0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:24.080
<v Speaker 3>an extra fifty bucks. I said, oh okay. I went

0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:27.880
<v Speaker 3>and I was terrible. Oh, no, I was terrible. So

0:25:27.920 --> 0:25:29.400
<v Speaker 3>he said, come back next week and do it again.

0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:31.280
<v Speaker 3>I said, I don't want to. I don't want to

0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:34.639
<v Speaker 3>do this. He said, do it again. I did it again.

0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:36.720
<v Speaker 3>I was worse the second week than I was the

0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:39.280
<v Speaker 3>first week, almost to the point where the audience was

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:40.600
<v Speaker 3>going to move me because it was a gay audience.

0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:43.160
<v Speaker 3>They played no games. Then he said one more time.

0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 3>I said, why do you keep making me do this?

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:48.359
<v Speaker 3>Which which is a testament to sometimes people see something

0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:51.120
<v Speaker 3>in you that you don't see in yourself. I went

0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:53.240
<v Speaker 3>out the third week and somebody heckled me from the

0:25:53.320 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 3>audience and said something really horrible.

0:25:55.080 --> 0:25:58.199
<v Speaker 1>I don't even remember, but whatever my comeback was. The

0:25:58.280 --> 0:25:59.000
<v Speaker 1>room erupted.

0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:02.600
<v Speaker 3>I said, oh, yes, that's what you're supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Ever since then, I was so I was born.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, mind you.

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 3>I hosted the drag shows for seventeen years successfully in Chicago.

0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:12.000
<v Speaker 3>I would have five or six hundred people come out

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:13.840
<v Speaker 3>on a Monday Thursday night in the middle of a

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:16.720
<v Speaker 3>blizzard fifty degrees below zero to see flame moro.

0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:19.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, and you're at this point just hosting. You're not

0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:20.679
<v Speaker 2>doing stand up.

0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:22.800
<v Speaker 3>No, I hadn't done stand up yet, so we went

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:25.680
<v Speaker 3>to all jokes aside. One night, me and a couple

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:29.240
<v Speaker 3>of friends of my comedy club just you know, just

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:30.800
<v Speaker 3>we want to go to the comedy club. I think

0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:32.359
<v Speaker 3>it was like an open mic night or something, and

0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:35.359
<v Speaker 3>Damion Williams was the host. So I was never a

0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:39.199
<v Speaker 3>passable transforman, like you knew, you know, I mean, the

0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:42.560
<v Speaker 3>body was banging, but you knew. The face was like, uh,

0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:45.439
<v Speaker 3>that ain't no girl. And I'm not offended by that

0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 3>because I'm very comfortable with who I am and who

0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 3>I was. And so he started with me from the

0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:54.800
<v Speaker 3>from the stage. He didn't know he had met mother Goose,

0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:57.320
<v Speaker 3>so I told that ass up. So he invited me

0:26:57.359 --> 0:26:59.560
<v Speaker 3>to come up on stage and we went back and forth.

0:26:59.840 --> 0:27:01.760
<v Speaker 3>And at the time, I was on house arrests and

0:27:01.880 --> 0:27:03.560
<v Speaker 3>I had on pants and I had on a teddy

0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:05.679
<v Speaker 3>because teddies were popular at the time, and sure you

0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:08.520
<v Speaker 3>have the way back that was. And he said, I said,

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 3>don't play with me. Play are you know I'm only

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:12.000
<v Speaker 3>out on loan, I'm on house arrests. I pulled my pants,

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:13.879
<v Speaker 3>laid up and show my house arrests ain't cle And

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:15.119
<v Speaker 3>the whole club went crazy.

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:16.359
<v Speaker 2>Why were you on house arrests.

0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:19.120
<v Speaker 1>Okay, we're gonna get to that. So that's what That's

0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:20.359
<v Speaker 1>what I knew. I'm like, oh yeah, this is what

0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:21.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm supposed to do.

0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:23.320
<v Speaker 3>So I was on house arrest because I went to

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:26.399
<v Speaker 3>I went to prison for the scept of practice in

0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:27.400
<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety one.

0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:30.399
<v Speaker 2>What does that mean? What is practice?

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:34.280
<v Speaker 3>Girl openeding fictitious bank accounts underfect names and you know,

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:39.919
<v Speaker 3>like stealing bank robin, I'm funny in Clyde together, I'm.

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Buddy in Clyde together.

0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:44.639
<v Speaker 3>And I was sentenced to three and a half years.

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:46.640
<v Speaker 3>My first defense, I had never got caught. That ain't

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:48.400
<v Speaker 3>mean I had never done a crime. I had never

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:48.960
<v Speaker 3>got caught.

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay, so you was gangster.

0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I told you.

0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:54.439
<v Speaker 3>I was raised by all Gates's grandmama and every but

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:56.679
<v Speaker 3>the judge that sendence me her name. I want you

0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 3>to remember this name in Google. Her name was just

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:06.320
<v Speaker 3>Joan core Boy. She I had a great lawyer, Jeffrey.

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:09.920
<v Speaker 3>Jeffrey's last name. I can't think that number man somewhere else.

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 3>I was about to say Epstein, that's name is damn sure,

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 3>ain't no Jeffrey, no no. But he was a Jewish guy,

0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:19.240
<v Speaker 3>very very nice. He charged me a gang of money.

0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:20.679
<v Speaker 3>All the money I saw out there, I gave it

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:22.359
<v Speaker 3>to him to get me out of jail. But he

0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:24.640
<v Speaker 3>told me that she had been data that she had

0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:27.200
<v Speaker 3>a ninety seven percent conviction rate for black and brown

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:30.679
<v Speaker 3>me and this was ninety one. So I'm like, he's like,

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:32.520
<v Speaker 3>she's going to send this you to prison just to

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 3>put the eggs on you. I'm like, okay, he said,

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:36.679
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna get your at least typing possible. Now, mind you,

0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm twenty one years old, maybe brand new breast and

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 3>plants I got in Tijuana, Mexico for sixteen hundred dollars.

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:45.840
<v Speaker 3>I've been taking hormones for a couple of years. I

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:48.000
<v Speaker 3>was I had got silicon in my hips, I was shaped,

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 3>I had long red head to my shoulders, my own

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 3>haird They didn't make you cut your hair anything. They

0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 3>put me and if she sentenced me to a me

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 3>and spenitentiary for three and a half years.

0:28:57.160 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh.

0:28:58.120 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Exactly.

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 3>There was no trends in jail at the time. There

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:03.640
<v Speaker 3>was nothing like me. I was a complete anominal.

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:06.200
<v Speaker 2>That's very dangerous, right, if.

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 1>You didn't have my mindset in my mouthpiece.

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 3>Thank god that I was raised by the people that

0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:13.120
<v Speaker 3>I was raised, because the intimidation didn't work with me.

0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 3>So the thing to do was to lock me up

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:19.479
<v Speaker 3>in the hospital because that's what they could say, they

0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:20.640
<v Speaker 3>could keep me safe.

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to be in a hospital. Wasn't nothing

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 1>wrong with me.

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to be out with everybody else because at

0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:27.520
<v Speaker 3>that time it was a different time with prison.

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:31.720
<v Speaker 2>So so you preferred to go to regular per.

0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah I was. I was. I didn't want to

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 1>go to jail at all. Yeah.

0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 3>I didn't want to be locked up. I didn't want

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:40.240
<v Speaker 3>to be confined. I didn't want to be put in segregation.

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:44.400
<v Speaker 3>I hadn't done anything wrong. So they tried to do

0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 3>that because I was trains and there was no place

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 3>for your Now you send me to prison, now, girl,

0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:51.040
<v Speaker 3>they got a whole wing of training. I got trains

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 3>every they got a whole trans prison, I think. And

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<v Speaker 3>but I incited three riots in thirty days and didn't

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<v Speaker 3>even know that. I'd say it right because I had

0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 3>to wear the state issued T shirts, and the T

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<v Speaker 3>shirts were paper thieves, so you could see my area,

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:06.239
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, and my friend used to sew up

0:30:06.240 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 3>my jogging pants for me to make him fit like

0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 3>stretch pants.

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:09.479
<v Speaker 1>This was ninety one.

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 3>Wasn't those stretch pants he was sewing up. I got

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:13.719
<v Speaker 3>with four a pack of cigarettes. So I was in

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 3>there just causing a ruckus. Mind you, I had a

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 3>full bread and it didn't matter. It did not matter.

0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 3>So the warden at that time came and found me.

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:25.200
<v Speaker 3>He says, are you Parker b whatever my institution name was.

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:27.440
<v Speaker 3>I said I am. This was forty six days in.

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 3>He says, bait you coming up out of my prison.

0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:33.120
<v Speaker 3>You got these inward uneasy? That's exactly what he said

0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:33.440
<v Speaker 3>to me.

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 3>Two days later I was in my own house. I

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 3>served eleven and a half months on house arrests in

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Speaker 3>my own house.

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:41.280
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy.

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 3>Look at Godo, no catch this story. Let me finish

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 3>the story. We ain't get back back to the judge. Meanwhile,

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 3>about a year later, the judge was on vacation with

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 3>her family in Boca Raton, Florida. True story, Google it,

0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 3>and she was killed in a freak accident. You know

0:30:57.640 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 3>how you have to push the clicker and the electrical

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 3>gate closes. The electual gate when you know when you

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 3>the sensor. When it hits ther sensor, it is supposed

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 3>to stop. There was no censor. It never stopped. The

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:10.640
<v Speaker 3>gate crushed and killed her family, suit and got twenty

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:13.440
<v Speaker 3>million dollars. Oh no, did I fail to mention that

0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 3>I got an A on my online electricians class while

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 3>I was on house to rest. That's a joke. I'd

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 3>never been in the vocal Town, Florida. But the story

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 3>is true.

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Google it.

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, So how do you go from Chicago seventeen

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 2>years to where you're at today? I'm trying to catch.

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:32.240
<v Speaker 1>Up, catch up today.

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 3>So I met Tasha for first Tasha my son's mom,

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 3>and we was just kicking the bobos and we ended

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 3>up getting pregnant.

0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 1>So I wanted her. She had already had a son

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 1>and maybe two years older.

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 2>This is the one you love, right.

0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:46.840
<v Speaker 1>No, this was the boy I was just kicking the

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 1>bobos with the first Tash. Tasha too was the one

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I love.

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:52.719
<v Speaker 3>And she said and what I respected about her, may

0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 3>she rest in peace. May you rest in peace? Tasha

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 3>was She was like, I don't want another baby, fling,

0:31:57.600 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 3>I said, just have my baby. I'd never actually for anything,

0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 3>I never had to go to court. We never had

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 3>to set no papers. It was I took him home

0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 3>from the hospital. If she wanted to see him, she could,

0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:10.600
<v Speaker 3>but it was my baby and he stealed my baby.

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 1>My baby got full rat to TSU. Last year.

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 3>He only did one semester Tennessee State Universey made the

0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 3>Ding's list that he hated it.

0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 2>So you asked her for the baby, and then she

0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:21.080
<v Speaker 2>did it.

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 3>And never gave me no grief over the years. Now,

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:27.040
<v Speaker 3>the other one who I loved, we went back and forth.

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:28.640
<v Speaker 3>I had to go to court eleven times here in

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 3>Long Beach just to get custy with my kids.

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Eleven times.

0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:34.120
<v Speaker 3>I didn't go in drag, I didn't go dressed up,

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 3>I didn't go over the top. But the judge, because

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 3>I was my presentation is transgender, made me come to

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 3>court eleven times just from my own biological children. Wow,

0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:47.840
<v Speaker 3>Illinois told me no. Illinois just said absolutely not. That's

0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:52.040
<v Speaker 3>why that was the reason we moved from Illinois to California.

0:32:52.680 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Everybody said you was chasing your dream.

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 3>I was chasing that too, But I wanted custody of

0:32:57.120 --> 0:33:00.720
<v Speaker 3>my children and I didn't even need no colleges. And

0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 3>why I'm living in life. I'm living who I am.

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 3>This is who I was when they were conceived. Why

0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:09.160
<v Speaker 3>would anything change? Yes, please, why would anything change? So

0:33:09.360 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 3>that's where we're at.

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so now you're in LA you have your children.

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 2>How does flame and Roll turn? You know, to flame

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 2>and roll?

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 1>So I was working at Hamburger, Mary's and Long Beach

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 1>for a long time.

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Really, Oh yeah, I wonder if you went to you

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 2>were there when I went You were in Hollywood, right, yeah,

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 2>the Hollywood.

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I never really went there. I used to work

0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 3>at the one in Loan Beach. But they were very

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 3>racist behind the scenes. Let me just say that publicly,

0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:43.680
<v Speaker 3>because racism does exist within the game community. You know,

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:45.240
<v Speaker 3>you love to say we're not racist.

0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:56.880
<v Speaker 4>Bush yeahs added so just corn okras, celery, onions, tomato.

0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 2>And some lawries.

0:33:59.880 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 1>I had some accent. I put that to that.

0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 3>And that's with MSG now without okay, without that's like

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 3>having sex with no kindom good god. Uh So yeah,

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:12.800
<v Speaker 3>And so I worked there and then I did botched

0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 3>in maybe twenty sixteen, and they fixed my left boot

0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:20.480
<v Speaker 3>because my left booth had encapsulated. It was kind of

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:23.360
<v Speaker 3>Gangmang and leaning to the left. It was thank and

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:25.360
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know. I was never in any paint or anything.

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 3>And because when I worked at hammerger Mary's, I tell you,

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 3>God put you where he needs you to be. I

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:31.400
<v Speaker 3>was miserable there. I made tons of money. I was

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:34.359
<v Speaker 3>the biggest girl there as far as would make all

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:36.840
<v Speaker 3>the money. But I was miserable because they were just

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 3>they were just it just wasn't for me.

0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:39.839
<v Speaker 1>Okay and uh.

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 3>We were taking pictures and the guy was like, have

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 3>you been on I thought about going on boys? I'm

0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 3>like for what He was like, Oh no, we'll fix

0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 3>your nose or if you got breathe with just because

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:50.920
<v Speaker 3>your story is so interesting, because he knew I had

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:52.880
<v Speaker 3>kids and everything, and I was like no, And you

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:54.399
<v Speaker 3>know everybody in Hollywood will tell you.

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:55.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm a producer. I'm yeah.

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:57.720
<v Speaker 3>He said, I said, I'll give you my email address,

0:34:57.760 --> 0:34:59.560
<v Speaker 3>and so I gave him my email address and longer hold.

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:02.400
<v Speaker 3>Two weeks they reached out to me and I went

0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:03.719
<v Speaker 3>to see doctor de Bry and I told him I

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:05.799
<v Speaker 3>wanted to make my breast and plant smaller. And when

0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 3>they did the X ray, he showed me that my

0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:10.240
<v Speaker 3>left breast was completely busted. When you watched the episode

0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 3>on YouTube. You'll see it.

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:13.240
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know that because I wasn't in no pain.

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 2>I was.

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:16.240
<v Speaker 1>I was. I was slipping off the stage and everything.

0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:18.759
<v Speaker 1>And he was the nicest man.

0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh, he was the nicest, nicest doctor Deboro and that's

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:24.160
<v Speaker 3>it was nice too, But the bro just was the

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:25.760
<v Speaker 3>sweet got very expensive surgery.

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:27.000
<v Speaker 1>They gave me great boobs.

0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:28.640
<v Speaker 2>Too, and they gave it to you. They didn't comp it.

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:32.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was for free because you know my story.

0:35:32.719 --> 0:35:34.400
<v Speaker 3>But I had to be on TV boom My wig

0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:36.200
<v Speaker 3>off and with my fat belly at that time, I

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:38.680
<v Speaker 3>was a little thicker. And when idea the reveal at

0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:41.839
<v Speaker 3>Hamburger Mary's, Tiffany had it, who had just taped Girls Trip.

0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:44.960
<v Speaker 3>We were already friends. We were already cool and not

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 3>like close close friends, but we worked on the circuit

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:50.239
<v Speaker 3>together and we were always very personal with each other.

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:54.319
<v Speaker 3>She she came and introduced me. She had taped Girl Trip,

0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:56.719
<v Speaker 3>Girls Trip, but it hadn't dropped yet, so she hadn't

0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:59.640
<v Speaker 3>become the superstar that she become. So I told him,

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 3>I asked her when she introduced me. She said, yeah,

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:04.239
<v Speaker 3>she came out to the club. She introduced me and

0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:06.880
<v Speaker 3>woo wooh, And I told the producer, I said, you

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:09.560
<v Speaker 3>need to watch this girl. This girlgle we magnificent. Tiffany

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:12.479
<v Speaker 3>came behind the scenes after the fact that she saw

0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 3>me talking with him, and she says, when I make it,

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to come back and get you. She did,

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:20.719
<v Speaker 3>she did, and she did, and when she got an

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:24.000
<v Speaker 3>opportunity to do Stay Ready, she called me. And there

0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 3>were forces on that show that did not want me

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:28.759
<v Speaker 3>on that show, that did not want no parts of

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:31.839
<v Speaker 3>me on that show, and Tiffany was like, Nope, this

0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 3>is who I want.

0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 1>This is who's gonna be on the show.

0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:36.879
<v Speaker 3>They didn't want me so bad that they didn't want

0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:39.279
<v Speaker 3>to submit my episode, and my episode was the only

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:41.760
<v Speaker 3>one submitted and got nominated for Emmy.

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:48.320
<v Speaker 3>Tiffany had his present Stay Ready. And I'm not saying

0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:51.160
<v Speaker 3>that like I'm gloating. I'm saying that because I had

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:54.480
<v Speaker 3>to prove somebody wrong. I know what works for me.

0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:57.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm very comfortable with flame Moro, and I know what

0:36:58.040 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 3>my weaknesses and my strengths are.

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:02.000
<v Speaker 2>So where did comedy come into play?

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:07.759
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. And y'all gonna be mad at me

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 3>about this. Comedy is not my first live. Stand up

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:14.200
<v Speaker 3>is not my first live as I'm an MC. And

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:15.840
<v Speaker 3>the reason I say that people say, well, isn't it

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:18.719
<v Speaker 3>the same thing? Absolutely not. A lot of comedians can't host,

0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:21.640
<v Speaker 3>and a lot of hosts can't do stand up. Luckily

0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:24.240
<v Speaker 3>I can do both. But I love to host because

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:25.480
<v Speaker 3>what that allows.

0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Me to do is excuse me. Is whatever curtain or

0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:33.640
<v Speaker 1>fear or shield you have in.

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:36.840
<v Speaker 3>Front of you, after sitting with me, listening to me

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:40.840
<v Speaker 3>self defecate, laugh, make jokes about what's happening in the

0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 3>world from a human aspect twenty minutes here, you're going

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:46.200
<v Speaker 3>to be so familiar with me. You're gonna be like

0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 3>I forgot the flame was trans slame. Is my uncle

0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 3>or my auntie or this is?

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 1>That is my gift. My gift is to bring people together,

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:55.279
<v Speaker 1>not to separate us.

0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:57.959
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I could see that the first time we met.

0:37:58.120 --> 0:37:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Was I want to say, was it like eight months ago?

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:01.759
<v Speaker 2>We may have been nine months ago. We were at

0:38:01.760 --> 0:38:05.600
<v Speaker 2>the iHeart some iHeart things for the Black Effect, and

0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:09.040
<v Speaker 2>I met you, and I can honestly say I don't

0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:12.399
<v Speaker 2>know any trans anything, not in person, like I don't

0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:16.239
<v Speaker 2>know anybody personally, and I remember like our first interaction,

0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 2>you were like I had all these random questions, like

0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Speaker 2>within three minutes of meeting you, and you were like

0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 2>breaking it down and you know you we had some

0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:28.640
<v Speaker 2>of the same viewpoints, but it was for me. It

0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:31.719
<v Speaker 2>was so nice to hear it come from you. And

0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:34.719
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, okay, so you know, my first interaction

0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:37.080
<v Speaker 2>with like a trans person where we could like openly

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:40.279
<v Speaker 2>talk about stuff. And I was throwing stuff at you,

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:42.480
<v Speaker 2>and I remember everybody just looking around like Okay, it's

0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Coley's like just gonna keep going. And I was like, well,

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:46.280
<v Speaker 2>was you make me feel comfortable?

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Thank you? That is my gift.

0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 3>And because I do free voices, which is every Monday

0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:54.600
<v Speaker 3>night and then we put your shameless plugging at the

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:56.480
<v Speaker 3>Hollywood Laugh Factory at seven.

0:38:56.280 --> 0:38:58.680
<v Speaker 2>Thirty we do a show at the Laugh Factory.

0:38:58.880 --> 0:39:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Huh every Monday night, Monday night, seven thirty pm.

0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:05.479
<v Speaker 3>I have such a diverse audience and and I'm talking

0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:09.200
<v Speaker 3>when I say the verse, I'm talking about Asian, Caucasian,

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:14.600
<v Speaker 3>Mexican that that come to enjoy me. Because there I'm

0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 3>not going to say there is no color, but there

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:19.319
<v Speaker 3>is no race with me. Yeah, everybody gets it. I

0:39:19.640 --> 0:39:22.520
<v Speaker 3>destroyed black people because I'm glad I destroyed what And

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:24.880
<v Speaker 3>when I say destroy, I make you see it for

0:39:24.920 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 3>what it is and then make you laugh at it

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:27.880
<v Speaker 3>because it's not that serious.

0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:30.479
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and it just puts everybody at ease.

0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:33.719
<v Speaker 3>And just every Monday, and I'm telling we have the

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 3>best you should come out, we have the best time,

0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:37.080
<v Speaker 3>because that's.

0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:37.480
<v Speaker 1>What I want to do.

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:40.759
<v Speaker 3>Every The world is so tight and so disgrunted, and

0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:45.280
<v Speaker 3>racism ain't going nowhere. Politics is crazy. We have survived coronavirus.

0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:49.000
<v Speaker 3>This is the forty seventh day of twenty twenty three,

0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:52.839
<v Speaker 3>and we have had sixty eight mass shootings. Wow, you

0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:55.799
<v Speaker 3>don't know what's going to happen twenty minutes from now.

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<v Speaker 1>So live your life and have a great time living.

0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:01.320
<v Speaker 3>It ain't gonna always be peaches and cream, but it

0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:18.320
<v Speaker 3>don't take it so serious.

0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Do you feel like you've arrived?

0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:21.200
<v Speaker 1>No? Absolutely not.

0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:23.520
<v Speaker 2>Was there a point in your career where you're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is it?

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:28.520
<v Speaker 3>Like I'm stable in twenty nineteen and then the pandemic

0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:32.000
<v Speaker 3>hit twenty nineteen. My career was flourishing like a brand

0:40:32.040 --> 0:40:35.759
<v Speaker 3>new flower in spring. And then I did the Breakfast Club,

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:39.239
<v Speaker 3>which I absolutely love, and a lot of my community

0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:42.440
<v Speaker 3>felt like I didn't speak on their behalf. I didn't

0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:45.719
<v Speaker 3>because here's the killer right here. Because I'm a part

0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:48.480
<v Speaker 3>of the lgbt Q I A plus community does not

0:40:48.600 --> 0:40:51.000
<v Speaker 3>mean that because I got a little shine that I'm

0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:53.840
<v Speaker 3>supposed to be the spokesperson of the community. That was

0:40:54.000 --> 0:40:56.800
<v Speaker 3>never something that I wanted. That was never an objective

0:40:56.840 --> 0:40:59.959
<v Speaker 3>that And if you listen to me on the Breakfast Club,

0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:03.000
<v Speaker 3>which brought me on as a comedian, they never brought

0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:05.200
<v Speaker 3>me on because I was trans. They never brought me

0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:07.640
<v Speaker 3>on because I was black or dead. They brought me

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:13.080
<v Speaker 3>on because I was a comedian. I could explicitly said three, four, five,

0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:15.920
<v Speaker 3>twelve times, I represent flame Unroe.

0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:17.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm speaking for me, okay.

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 2>So on that interview, that was the thing that was

0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:20.319
<v Speaker 2>like the.

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:23.279
<v Speaker 3>That was the turning point that made them feel like,

0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:25.799
<v Speaker 3>I'm not really a trans person or I'm not a

0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 3>trans woman.

0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm this.

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:30.560
<v Speaker 3>Whatever your opinion is of you never has any re

0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 3>infection on me because what you're saying about me don't

0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 3>don't represent me.

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:37.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, the trans community has the not the trans community.

0:41:37.120 --> 0:41:40.799
<v Speaker 2>The LGBTQ community has so much power. Were you a

0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:44.880
<v Speaker 2>little bit intimidated when there was a backlash? Were you

0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 2>a little you know they intimidated or nervous because I

0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:50.800
<v Speaker 2>feel like they have so much power that like getting

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:52.880
<v Speaker 2>the wrath from them can be very scary.

0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:53.319
<v Speaker 1>Well, I have.

0:41:53.560 --> 0:41:57.839
<v Speaker 3>I've faced the raft since maybe September of last year.

0:41:57.840 --> 0:42:01.440
<v Speaker 3>I probably lost two hundred thousand dollars in work because

0:42:01.480 --> 0:42:03.360
<v Speaker 3>of who I am and how I speak.

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:05.880
<v Speaker 2>And that's crazy, because you're a part of their community

0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:08.960
<v Speaker 2>and that you still you can still face some level

0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:10.920
<v Speaker 2>of punishment.

0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:16.719
<v Speaker 3>Nothing that I survive the eighties, the nineties and the

0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 3>two thousands.

0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:19.240
<v Speaker 1>That ain't gonna break me, Okay.

0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:22.040
<v Speaker 3>And I see women and I know what a woman

0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:24.200
<v Speaker 3>is to me, and I know what a woman is

0:42:24.200 --> 0:42:26.720
<v Speaker 3>to this world, which is Mother Earth and every trans

0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:29.760
<v Speaker 3>woman and trans man and lgbt Q I a plus

0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:30.920
<v Speaker 3>person came through.

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:32.760
<v Speaker 1>A woman, a woman.

0:42:33.320 --> 0:42:35.719
<v Speaker 3>And that's not to say that however you feel you

0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:37.799
<v Speaker 3>represent you, that you don't represent you.

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:41.080
<v Speaker 1>But we came through a woman. Yeah. I'm not a female,

0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:43.800
<v Speaker 1>I will never be a female. I'm a female impersonator

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<v Speaker 1>and a very good way.

0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:47.240
<v Speaker 2>You're still only twenty minutes and that's why you always

0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:48.279
<v Speaker 2>say that he she we.

0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:51.560
<v Speaker 3>That's why I say he she we because you know,

0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:54.680
<v Speaker 3>and there's so many new terminologies with the non binary

0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:57.160
<v Speaker 3>and you know, and I'm still learning, and I'm a

0:42:57.200 --> 0:42:59.480
<v Speaker 3>part of the community, but I am a dinosaur in

0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:02.319
<v Speaker 3>some aspect because I'm still learning. Because every other week

0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 3>it's a goddamn new alphabet latitude, so I'm still learning.

0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was twenty six y'all. Oh my god, do.

0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:12.360
<v Speaker 2>You feel obligated to keep up with the with the

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:13.240
<v Speaker 2>the new lango.

0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:18.200
<v Speaker 3>I feel like I have a responsibility that I need

0:43:18.239 --> 0:43:20.640
<v Speaker 3>to learn it in case I'm ever speaking with some

0:43:20.760 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 3>other people. Is that they're dialect That does not mean

0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:26.520
<v Speaker 3>that I have to use the language that they use.

0:43:26.680 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 3>I just need to be able to say that I

0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:31.360
<v Speaker 3>understand what you're saying to me. Because all the women

0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:33.640
<v Speaker 3>that I know, biological women do not like the term

0:43:33.719 --> 0:43:39.080
<v Speaker 3>cis woman, so I don't use cis woman exactly.

0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:41.760
<v Speaker 2>But okay, let's try your dish. Is it ready?

0:43:42.440 --> 0:43:44.000
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty much ready? You got some rice?

0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:44.720
<v Speaker 2>I have rice?

0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, y'all, so we got some?

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:47.719
<v Speaker 2>Do we put the rice in your dish or do

0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:49.240
<v Speaker 2>we put it on your plate?

0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:50.759
<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna put it and you put this over

0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:51.200
<v Speaker 1>top of.

0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:53.080
<v Speaker 2>The rice, okay, and then I'm gonna put some rice

0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:57.960
<v Speaker 2>on your plate. So in the crash, so you were

0:43:58.000 --> 0:44:01.000
<v Speaker 2>you felt like you were doing well before the crash, Yeah,

0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:02.480
<v Speaker 2>and then the pandemic.

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:04.239
<v Speaker 3>Happening, and the pandemic happened, but then I heeart that.

0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:06.400
<v Speaker 3>So what people don't know is they think that me

0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:09.880
<v Speaker 3>and Charlomagne had this great friendship that happen. Charlemagne hired

0:44:09.920 --> 0:44:12.239
<v Speaker 3>me the very first time I did the Breakfast Club.

0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:14.120
<v Speaker 3>He said, you're coming to work for me, he told

0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:14.799
<v Speaker 3>me on that day.

0:44:15.000 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I say, you ain't got no doubt.

0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:18.920
<v Speaker 3>You know which power you got? You ain't got nothing,

0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:22.760
<v Speaker 3>Lord behold. Charlie May signed fourteen podcasts and self included

0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:26.640
<v Speaker 3>two years ago to the Black Effect Network. He was

0:44:26.719 --> 0:44:29.799
<v Speaker 3>creating something and you know, and on that excuse me,

0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:32.080
<v Speaker 3>everybody wanted me to give Charlamagne a hard time with

0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 3>blame he is and he did. When you're going to

0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:37.480
<v Speaker 3>show tear him up. Charlemagne and Enby were so pleasant

0:44:37.480 --> 0:44:40.759
<v Speaker 3>to me and so wonderful to me and respectful. You know,

0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:42.480
<v Speaker 3>even when I went on that time when Boosie was

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:44.160
<v Speaker 3>on there a little boosy. He gets a bad rap

0:44:44.200 --> 0:44:48.840
<v Speaker 3>from the community. His manager is openly gay, and I

0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:50.920
<v Speaker 3>ain't talking about just regular gay. He the gay with

0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:53.440
<v Speaker 3>the cape and the s and the ryaningstones and the feathers.

0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:54.560
<v Speaker 1>That kind of gay. Good.

0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 2>I want a piece of bacon, just just so I

0:44:58.120 --> 0:45:00.399
<v Speaker 2>can say, I have a piece of bacon, A plate

0:45:00.520 --> 0:45:03.920
<v Speaker 2>of your pre cooked my pre cooked appleby it sounds

0:45:04.040 --> 0:45:06.880
<v Speaker 2>very Is there a reason why it has to be

0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:07.399
<v Speaker 2>apple work?

0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh? I love apple baker apple. We just got a

0:45:10.160 --> 0:45:10.799
<v Speaker 1>flavor to it.

0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:13.319
<v Speaker 3>Oh and you know who has the best apple bakon

0:45:13.400 --> 0:45:15.480
<v Speaker 3>gelston It costs three hundred dollars a pack.

0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. You know Gelston's is the high end store.

0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:25.040
<v Speaker 2>I've only shot that Gelston's. Uh, when when there's it's

0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:25.720
<v Speaker 2>that moment.

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:26.319
<v Speaker 1>Let me.

0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:30.320
<v Speaker 3>I buy an E B T car from a girl

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:32.960
<v Speaker 3>sometimes and I go to Gelston's with eb T car

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:35.200
<v Speaker 3>and get the strip and crab and lobster and get

0:45:35.239 --> 0:45:37.360
<v Speaker 3>to the counter and she said hi, cash check, And

0:45:37.760 --> 0:45:39.920
<v Speaker 3>I say eb T real loud, so everybody look at me.

0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:43.200
<v Speaker 2>You know what's so funny? You wouldn't even think that

0:45:43.400 --> 0:45:44.720
<v Speaker 2>about E B T and Gelston's.

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:46.960
<v Speaker 1>They take everybody take ebt baby.

0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:49.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what. When I was younger, I thought

0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:52.839
<v Speaker 2>you couldn't get fast food with food stamps. But then

0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:55.239
<v Speaker 2>now it's like, you can get fast food with food stands.

0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:57.120
<v Speaker 1>This show one PG. I'll tell you what else you

0:45:57.160 --> 0:45:58.000
<v Speaker 1>can give a food stamp.

0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:02.279
<v Speaker 2>Hold, it's not what can you get?

0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:09.080
<v Speaker 1>It was a joke. Okay, you taste it?

0:46:09.600 --> 0:46:11.600
<v Speaker 2>I taste it. It's you know what. I just want

0:46:11.600 --> 0:46:12.440
<v Speaker 2>to try the Oprah.

0:46:12.680 --> 0:46:15.440
<v Speaker 3>Try to it's not gonna even have a you can

0:46:15.440 --> 0:46:17.440
<v Speaker 3>do it. You can do it, you can do it.

0:46:17.480 --> 0:46:18.279
<v Speaker 1>I believe in you.

0:46:21.320 --> 0:46:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, I still hey, Okra a taste it's Slimmy.

0:46:26.200 --> 0:46:28.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I can't do that?

0:46:28.880 --> 0:46:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Means are you married?

0:46:31.200 --> 0:46:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Well about to be divorced?

0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:43.400
<v Speaker 3>Is it because you didn't like Slimmy?

0:46:43.719 --> 0:46:46.879
<v Speaker 2>I got a good comeback for world. No, it's because

0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:48.400
<v Speaker 2>too many girls like Slimmy.

0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Okay that come on, I got it all the way.

0:46:54.400 --> 0:46:56.839
<v Speaker 1>If y'all missed that, y'all too young? Grow up?

0:46:56.880 --> 0:46:59.279
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. No, but you know what

0:46:59.360 --> 0:46:59.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm not.

0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:03.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't like what you know, like Oprah.

0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:04.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't like what anything? What?

0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:04.840
<v Speaker 3>What?

0:47:05.600 --> 0:47:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Like that texture? So maybe that could inside joke inside,

0:47:11.360 --> 0:47:11.640
<v Speaker 2>I know.

0:47:11.760 --> 0:47:15.239
<v Speaker 3>Exactly what but that the player up under this wing

0:47:15.480 --> 0:47:16.920
<v Speaker 3>is like, you ain't no fun.

0:47:16.960 --> 0:47:21.799
<v Speaker 1>I would have divorced you. You don't like what?

0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:23.480
<v Speaker 2>No, let me tell you.

0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:26.680
<v Speaker 1>You hear me talk about Okra, that's what I was talking.

0:47:26.760 --> 0:47:28.399
<v Speaker 2>Let me just tell you so I can just save

0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:32.280
<v Speaker 2>my own reputation. And god, God, please hopefully my family

0:47:32.320 --> 0:47:35.680
<v Speaker 2>doesn't listen to this episode. But let me tell you something. Okay,

0:47:36.640 --> 0:47:39.880
<v Speaker 2>he married me, so I clearly learned how to do

0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:42.240
<v Speaker 2>the job that I had to do to do it. Okay,

0:47:42.600 --> 0:47:47.760
<v Speaker 2>so I do I accommodated. Okay, it sounds like a task.

0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 2>I need you to enjoy it. Do you know what?

0:47:50.239 --> 0:47:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I need you to smile.

0:47:54.880 --> 0:48:00.240
<v Speaker 3>Like it's the last supper.

0:48:00.520 --> 0:48:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Look, when we got off the cameras off, I'm I'm

0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:05.239
<v Speaker 2>gonna show her how I was getting down. Okay, because

0:48:05.280 --> 0:48:06.239
<v Speaker 2>she will be impressed with me.

0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:12.440
<v Speaker 3>Okay, she said she, but you show me the right way.

0:48:12.480 --> 0:48:15.200
<v Speaker 3>This rig might slide back a little bit, and oh

0:48:15.239 --> 0:48:17.240
<v Speaker 3>my god, let me stop my photi.

0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:20.680
<v Speaker 1>So you know I did Coming View first.

0:48:20.840 --> 0:48:24.759
<v Speaker 3>I was the first trans person ever to be on

0:48:24.800 --> 0:48:27.399
<v Speaker 3>Coming View in two thousand and four, where Ricky Smiley.

0:48:27.120 --> 0:48:29.279
<v Speaker 2>Was that had to have been a pivotal moment where

0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:29.520
<v Speaker 2>it was.

0:48:30.320 --> 0:48:32.600
<v Speaker 3>But but hear me when I tell you, Chris Spencer

0:48:32.680 --> 0:48:34.600
<v Speaker 3>was the one who got me on Coming View. Chrispincer

0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:36.399
<v Speaker 3>picked up the phone, made a phone call and got

0:48:36.400 --> 0:48:38.160
<v Speaker 3>me with Joyce Coleman and I was on Common View.

0:48:38.360 --> 0:48:40.799
<v Speaker 3>But they tried to market me as a female. They

0:48:40.840 --> 0:48:43.759
<v Speaker 3>were petrified to market me as a trans in two

0:48:43.800 --> 0:48:45.879
<v Speaker 3>thousand and four. This is how far we have come

0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:50.319
<v Speaker 3>because if they marketed me as a trans to controversy

0:48:50.320 --> 0:48:50.719
<v Speaker 3>along with.

0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:53.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, but all the world wasn't ready, Oh my god,

0:48:53.600 --> 0:48:53.879
<v Speaker 1>the world.

0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:56.120
<v Speaker 2>But when they see it, they wouldn't be able to tell.

0:48:56.520 --> 0:48:59.719
<v Speaker 3>They could tell, but they really did not want to

0:48:59.760 --> 0:49:00.799
<v Speaker 3>say the words.

0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:02.719
<v Speaker 1>This is and this is why I'm saying.

0:49:03.280 --> 0:49:05.839
<v Speaker 3>We have moved from a space where they wouldn't say

0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:08.160
<v Speaker 3>trans woman and transman is self explanatory.

0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:10.280
<v Speaker 2>But can I ask is do you don't think? Well,

0:49:10.320 --> 0:49:11.920
<v Speaker 2>you would? You would only be the one to know.

0:49:12.080 --> 0:49:15.120
<v Speaker 2>So is it more proper to say trans woman or

0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:15.760
<v Speaker 2>just say.

0:49:15.600 --> 0:49:23.400
<v Speaker 1>She see I like both? Okay, there was a time, Okay,

0:49:23.800 --> 0:49:25.080
<v Speaker 1>you know where he is not? Okay?

0:49:25.400 --> 0:49:29.880
<v Speaker 3>If if a trans girl's presentation is female, it is

0:49:29.920 --> 0:49:32.560
<v Speaker 3>disrespectful to call her he. We do that out of

0:49:32.560 --> 0:49:35.080
<v Speaker 3>shade when we argue with each other, but it really

0:49:35.160 --> 0:49:35.960
<v Speaker 3>is disrespectful.

0:49:36.920 --> 0:49:39.160
<v Speaker 1>And some of their play that yeah.

0:49:39.280 --> 0:49:41.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure a lot of people are gonna didn't

0:49:41.800 --> 0:49:42.320
<v Speaker 2>know that.

0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:45.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah with me because I'm so comfortable who I am

0:49:45.560 --> 0:49:48.279
<v Speaker 3>and my my pronoun you know, say it's he she

0:49:48.400 --> 0:49:52.120
<v Speaker 3>weak again. I'm a comedian, so every I make light

0:49:52.239 --> 0:49:54.440
<v Speaker 3>and fun pretty much of almost everything.

0:49:55.320 --> 0:49:57.560
<v Speaker 2>By the way, this is delicious. I just moved all

0:49:57.560 --> 0:49:59.560
<v Speaker 2>the oak run to the side.

0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:02.080
<v Speaker 3>I wish I had my other seasons, but I'm telling

0:50:02.120 --> 0:50:04.279
<v Speaker 3>you that, you see, I'm telling you make the same

0:50:04.400 --> 0:50:05.560
<v Speaker 3>baby you get each other.

0:50:05.600 --> 0:50:08.720
<v Speaker 2>Look at all that Oprah everybody, how much I hate Oprah,

0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:13.439
<v Speaker 2>I will never there just nothing, nothing's making.

0:50:13.520 --> 0:50:15.160
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not going to force that on you either.

0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:17.439
<v Speaker 1>I want you to hear what I was saying, literally

0:50:18.160 --> 0:50:18.719
<v Speaker 1>what I say.

0:50:19.160 --> 0:50:21.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to force that on you, just like

0:50:21.560 --> 0:50:25.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't force me on people. I earned when I

0:50:25.920 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 3>started in comedy in ninety seven ninety eight. I could

0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:33.080
<v Speaker 3>be in the green room with a room for the

0:50:33.120 --> 0:50:37.680
<v Speaker 3>comedians and I was invisible. They wouldn't talk to me,

0:50:37.760 --> 0:50:39.680
<v Speaker 3>They wouldn't speak to me. They wouldn't even make eye

0:50:39.680 --> 0:50:44.000
<v Speaker 3>contact with me. I earned their respect because I kept coming.

0:50:44.160 --> 0:50:46.400
<v Speaker 3>They weren't going to chase me away. I was a

0:50:46.440 --> 0:50:49.600
<v Speaker 3>tough not to crack, and I kept learning and getting

0:50:49.600 --> 0:50:51.759
<v Speaker 3>on stage, and every now and again I would break

0:50:51.760 --> 0:50:54.200
<v Speaker 3>through show, kept teeny show and half, and every now

0:50:54.200 --> 0:50:56.040
<v Speaker 3>and again a comic come and say good job.

0:50:56.160 --> 0:50:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Like sometimes it was on the low on a choir.

0:50:58.239 --> 0:51:00.160
<v Speaker 3>But it let me know I was doing I was

0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:02.920
<v Speaker 3>supposed to do. When they saw that I wasn't going anywhere.

0:51:02.920 --> 0:51:04.759
<v Speaker 3>And I've been in the game twenty years now, a

0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:06.799
<v Speaker 3>one male comic and said, ooh, Flame tried to get

0:51:06.800 --> 0:51:09.560
<v Speaker 3>with me. Flamee tried. That was never the reputation I wanted.

0:51:09.600 --> 0:51:11.319
<v Speaker 3>That was never what I didn't come in here for that.

0:51:11.440 --> 0:51:13.560
<v Speaker 3>I came here to do this job. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>play a y'all spint. I didn't want to play in

0:51:15.800 --> 0:51:18.279
<v Speaker 3>just the LGBT party. It's too limided. I wanted to

0:51:18.320 --> 0:51:22.080
<v Speaker 3>be a world known comedian, not just a gay comedian.

0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:24.239
<v Speaker 2>What made Charlotte bring you on the Breakfast Club?

0:51:24.360 --> 0:51:26.600
<v Speaker 3>Because I had did they ready with Tiffany House and

0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:28.160
<v Speaker 3>she had did the show. And that's why I said

0:51:28.200 --> 0:51:30.319
<v Speaker 3>when he brought me on. He didn't bring me on

0:51:30.400 --> 0:51:32.279
<v Speaker 3>as a trans person. He brought me on as a

0:51:32.320 --> 0:51:35.880
<v Speaker 3>comedian because we had taped they ready, and so my

0:51:35.960 --> 0:51:38.239
<v Speaker 3>community got upset with me because they wanted me to

0:51:38.280 --> 0:51:41.319
<v Speaker 3>be the you know, everybody gets a little shot. No,

0:51:41.400 --> 0:51:43.000
<v Speaker 3>that was not what I didn't going there to tell

0:51:43.080 --> 0:51:44.719
<v Speaker 3>him down. I love my sister, but I'm not gonna

0:51:44.719 --> 0:51:46.759
<v Speaker 3>fight for bullshit. If it's bullshit, I'm not gonna I'm

0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:48.880
<v Speaker 3>not gonna stand up for that. But if it's something real,

0:51:49.200 --> 0:51:51.080
<v Speaker 3>like you know what's real to me? Like right now,

0:51:51.320 --> 0:51:55.839
<v Speaker 3>we all in the tizzy over pronouns and bathroom rights. Meanwhile,

0:51:55.920 --> 0:51:59.080
<v Speaker 3>the GOP is forcing a don't say gay bill and

0:51:59.239 --> 0:52:01.600
<v Speaker 3>no more drag, which is how I made my living

0:52:01.640 --> 0:52:03.759
<v Speaker 3>for a very long time, and a lot of my sisters,

0:52:03.760 --> 0:52:06.239
<v Speaker 3>including the girls from RuPaul's Drag Race, we make our

0:52:06.280 --> 0:52:09.880
<v Speaker 3>living off drag shows. Y'all got George Santez, who is

0:52:09.920 --> 0:52:12.600
<v Speaker 3>openly gay and used to do drag shows in Santa Bill,

0:52:12.840 --> 0:52:15.360
<v Speaker 3>to say don't say gay and no on drag shows,

0:52:15.400 --> 0:52:16.120
<v Speaker 3>and we ain't said.

0:52:16.520 --> 0:52:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Have you heard the community in an uproar about George Santos.

0:52:19.200 --> 0:52:21.560
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't say gay, That what does that mean

0:52:21.600 --> 0:52:22.399
<v Speaker 2>you can't say the word.

0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:26.520
<v Speaker 3>Well, according to Ron DeSantis in Florida, he's trying to

0:52:26.760 --> 0:52:28.640
<v Speaker 3>He has adopted the bill where they don't want teach

0:52:28.680 --> 0:52:30.560
<v Speaker 3>the little kids to be able to come to If

0:52:30.600 --> 0:52:32.560
<v Speaker 3>you were my teacher and I couldn't talk to my

0:52:32.640 --> 0:52:35.080
<v Speaker 3>mom that I was having feelings for little boys, but

0:52:35.160 --> 0:52:37.240
<v Speaker 3>you made me feel safe, So I came and talked

0:52:37.239 --> 0:52:37.520
<v Speaker 3>to you.

0:52:38.040 --> 0:52:40.080
<v Speaker 1>And you can go to jail.

0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:42.759
<v Speaker 3>You can lose your job because you're not supposed to

0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:45.440
<v Speaker 3>have those conversations with these So now these kids have

0:52:45.520 --> 0:52:49.120
<v Speaker 3>nobody to turn to, nobody to talk to. It's not safe.

0:52:49.200 --> 0:52:51.480
<v Speaker 3>But we're not in an uproar about that. We're too

0:52:51.520 --> 0:52:54.360
<v Speaker 3>busy worried about things that are just so insignificant. I

0:52:54.360 --> 0:52:57.520
<v Speaker 3>don't fight over insignificant. It needs to mean something, and

0:52:57.680 --> 0:52:58.680
<v Speaker 3>that means something to me.

0:52:59.120 --> 0:53:01.879
<v Speaker 2>If you had advice to give to someone that's coming

0:53:01.960 --> 0:53:04.279
<v Speaker 2>up in the same lane as you, what advice would

0:53:04.280 --> 0:53:04.600
<v Speaker 2>you get?

0:53:07.160 --> 0:53:11.000
<v Speaker 3>Make great relationships and get as much stage time experience

0:53:11.040 --> 0:53:14.960
<v Speaker 3>as you can because every room is different, every audience

0:53:15.120 --> 0:53:18.440
<v Speaker 3>is different, and learn your audience. There is a responsibility

0:53:18.480 --> 0:53:20.200
<v Speaker 3>on comedians to learn their audience.

0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:22.800
<v Speaker 1>There is a lot of comedians.

0:53:22.960 --> 0:53:25.960
<v Speaker 3>I ain't changing myself for nobody, Then you're not growing

0:53:26.040 --> 0:53:28.239
<v Speaker 3>as a comic because I'm not going to go into

0:53:28.280 --> 0:53:32.160
<v Speaker 3>a room full of Trumpsters doing my trump stuff knowing

0:53:32.239 --> 0:53:36.160
<v Speaker 3>that I'm offending these people on purpose. Now I will

0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:38.520
<v Speaker 3>change it from talking about his politics to talking about

0:53:38.560 --> 0:53:40.440
<v Speaker 3>his shape or his hair to make it.

0:53:40.400 --> 0:53:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Funny to them.

0:53:42.840 --> 0:53:45.759
<v Speaker 3>There is a responsibility, and a lot of times I

0:53:45.800 --> 0:53:50.320
<v Speaker 3>think that some of these comics that don't change things

0:53:50.360 --> 0:53:54.719
<v Speaker 3>happen that shouldn't happen because you have to adapt, adapt

0:53:55.080 --> 0:53:56.239
<v Speaker 3>to the room that you're in.

0:53:56.800 --> 0:53:58.759
<v Speaker 2>Okay, And then I just have just a couple more

0:53:58.840 --> 0:54:01.440
<v Speaker 2>questions because we definitely went over the come on, what

0:54:01.560 --> 0:54:04.160
<v Speaker 2>was the hardest hurdle you think you had to overcome,

0:54:04.239 --> 0:54:08.240
<v Speaker 2>either personally or professionally in your entire lifetime.

0:54:08.800 --> 0:54:10.160
<v Speaker 1>Or broken heart?

0:54:10.440 --> 0:54:12.239
<v Speaker 3>It's the hardest thing I've ever heard that would come

0:54:12.560 --> 0:54:14.759
<v Speaker 3>because people always didn't like me or I didn't like him.

0:54:15.520 --> 0:54:16.719
<v Speaker 1>I was always good with that too.

0:54:16.800 --> 0:54:18.320
<v Speaker 2>But why do you say broken heart? Did it affect

0:54:18.360 --> 0:54:18.960
<v Speaker 2>you professionally?

0:54:19.120 --> 0:54:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah, it made me.

0:54:20.560 --> 0:54:22.439
<v Speaker 3>It made me step away from the stage for a while,

0:54:22.440 --> 0:54:24.600
<v Speaker 3>because I'm telling my baby, Mama had me some displaced

0:54:25.160 --> 0:54:27.439
<v Speaker 3>She had me crazy as a role is and long

0:54:27.520 --> 0:54:29.360
<v Speaker 3>did it last? For seven years? But I've had my

0:54:29.400 --> 0:54:31.239
<v Speaker 3>heart broken by a woman and a man when I

0:54:31.280 --> 0:54:33.880
<v Speaker 3>went to prison. When I got caught, I had a boyfriend.

0:54:33.920 --> 0:54:34.760
<v Speaker 3>He put me in prison.

0:54:35.000 --> 0:54:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I was slick. I wouldn't go get caught. He turned me.

0:54:37.560 --> 0:54:38.760
<v Speaker 1>He turned me. He was angry.

0:54:38.960 --> 0:54:42.160
<v Speaker 3>Riched Yeah, bitch, ass nigga.

0:54:42.840 --> 0:54:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Can I say that.

0:54:44.719 --> 0:54:46.440
<v Speaker 2>I assume you broke up on him when he snitched?

0:54:46.480 --> 0:54:48.640
<v Speaker 3>Well, I see that. That's show you how damb I was.

0:54:48.719 --> 0:54:50.440
<v Speaker 3>I got out of prison and went right back to him.

0:54:50.440 --> 0:54:52.240
<v Speaker 3>But Menjo only did forty eight days.

0:54:52.520 --> 0:54:54.280
<v Speaker 1>But I went right back to him, Okay.

0:54:55.239 --> 0:54:59.319
<v Speaker 3>And and what happened was I was blind because I

0:54:59.400 --> 0:55:02.480
<v Speaker 3>was in it. But after going through the prison humiliation

0:55:02.840 --> 0:55:04.919
<v Speaker 3>because I never had anything bad happened to me in prison,

0:55:05.000 --> 0:55:07.600
<v Speaker 3>Thank you Jesus. I was so protected because my uncles

0:55:07.600 --> 0:55:10.880
<v Speaker 3>were all stones on the West Side. Everybody knew the

0:55:10.920 --> 0:55:13.439
<v Speaker 3>Gifts and family. Everybody knew us, so they knew who

0:55:13.480 --> 0:55:16.920
<v Speaker 3>I was, so nobody was gonna bother me.

0:55:17.160 --> 0:55:20.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean not. I was never worried about that part.

0:55:20.280 --> 0:55:23.920
<v Speaker 1>But he was just he got drugs and it just

0:55:24.000 --> 0:55:26.319
<v Speaker 1>hurt me. I don't never want to I'm afraid of

0:55:26.320 --> 0:55:27.600
<v Speaker 1>love because of that.

0:55:28.160 --> 0:55:31.120
<v Speaker 2>So what did like you did? Seven years of heartbreak?

0:55:31.200 --> 0:55:33.399
<v Speaker 2>So what got you out of it? Was it just time?

0:55:33.520 --> 0:55:35.400
<v Speaker 3>Or was it like she kept she left? You know,

0:55:35.560 --> 0:55:38.680
<v Speaker 3>she kept leaving. What's the songbody ojy? She says, your

0:55:38.680 --> 0:55:40.520
<v Speaker 3>body's here with me, but your man is on the

0:55:40.600 --> 0:55:41.440
<v Speaker 3>other side of town.

0:55:41.880 --> 0:55:44.320
<v Speaker 1>She stayed on the other side of town. Her body

0:55:44.400 --> 0:55:48.799
<v Speaker 1>was physically there, but she wasn't there. And she was young.

0:55:48.880 --> 0:55:50.920
<v Speaker 1>She didn't want to be a mom. She wanted to.

0:55:51.080 --> 0:55:53.000
<v Speaker 3>I think she wanted to be a mother for her mother,

0:55:53.520 --> 0:55:55.120
<v Speaker 3>but she really didn't want to be a mommy.

0:55:55.680 --> 0:55:57.960
<v Speaker 1>If you understand what that her mama wanted her.

0:55:57.840 --> 0:56:00.919
<v Speaker 3>To prove that she was because she was an open legs,

0:56:00.960 --> 0:56:03.799
<v Speaker 3>looked like a little boy, and her mom wanted her

0:56:03.920 --> 0:56:07.120
<v Speaker 3>to be girl grandmama. So I think she did that

0:56:07.239 --> 0:56:10.400
<v Speaker 3>for her mom. I just happened to be the collateral damage.

0:56:10.600 --> 0:56:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Thank god. I wanted my children though.

0:56:12.600 --> 0:56:15.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, And then you got back to work.

0:56:17.040 --> 0:56:17.800
<v Speaker 1>I had to heal.

0:56:18.800 --> 0:56:21.239
<v Speaker 2>How did how did you heal and get back in

0:56:21.719 --> 0:56:22.120
<v Speaker 2>the race?

0:56:22.280 --> 0:56:24.439
<v Speaker 1>That was the that was the hardest part.

0:56:24.520 --> 0:56:26.800
<v Speaker 3>I have. My oldest daughter's name is easy. My children

0:56:26.880 --> 0:56:31.880
<v Speaker 3>name is JaMarcus, Ezzy and Isaiah. Isabella Easy looks exactly

0:56:32.360 --> 0:56:35.520
<v Speaker 3>like her mother. And I'm talking about from day one.

0:56:36.680 --> 0:56:39.120
<v Speaker 3>So do you know how hard it was to men

0:56:39.200 --> 0:56:41.920
<v Speaker 3>your broken heart while still functioning. I had a three

0:56:42.000 --> 0:56:44.279
<v Speaker 3>year old, a three month old, and a three and

0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:46.279
<v Speaker 3>a half year old, all at the same time by

0:56:46.280 --> 0:56:50.800
<v Speaker 3>myself with a broken heart in southern California, own food stamps.

0:56:51.000 --> 0:56:53.000
<v Speaker 3>We couldn't get on Section eight because they said I

0:56:53.040 --> 0:56:58.520
<v Speaker 3>made too much money struggling, couldn't find no work because

0:56:58.640 --> 0:57:01.080
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't get my man right. But I couldn't get

0:57:01.120 --> 0:57:04.640
<v Speaker 3>in a dark hole depressed because I had a bottle

0:57:04.680 --> 0:57:07.560
<v Speaker 3>to fix. I had daycare, I had a pampa to change,

0:57:07.600 --> 0:57:08.719
<v Speaker 3>I had to do laundry.

0:57:09.320 --> 0:57:11.920
<v Speaker 1>God kept me busy so I wouldn't sit and.

0:57:11.800 --> 0:57:14.920
<v Speaker 3>Wallow in my pain, even though there was times when

0:57:14.960 --> 0:57:17.920
<v Speaker 3>I went to that bathroom it had meltdown because I

0:57:17.960 --> 0:57:19.800
<v Speaker 3>didn't have no help. I couldn't leave my kids on

0:57:19.840 --> 0:57:24.000
<v Speaker 3>my mom. Yeah, you know my mom had She was

0:57:24.200 --> 0:57:25.200
<v Speaker 3>she was not nice.

0:57:25.280 --> 0:57:27.240
<v Speaker 2>So how are you working and supporting everything?

0:57:29.000 --> 0:57:31.760
<v Speaker 3>I was always a master of what I needed to do.

0:57:31.840 --> 0:57:34.240
<v Speaker 3>I was always a great hustler. I was always a

0:57:34.280 --> 0:57:36.480
<v Speaker 3>good hustler. You know, I knew how to push the

0:57:36.600 --> 0:57:39.400
<v Speaker 3>almost illegal boundaries to make sure that my children could

0:57:40.960 --> 0:57:43.760
<v Speaker 3>And when we were broke, when I had no money

0:57:43.800 --> 0:57:46.040
<v Speaker 3>and I couldn't get no work because I was ostracized.

0:57:46.080 --> 0:57:49.960
<v Speaker 3>After I left Hamburger, Mareas and Long Beach in southern California,

0:57:50.000 --> 0:57:51.760
<v Speaker 3>where I couldn't get no work in the drag shows,

0:57:52.360 --> 0:57:55.000
<v Speaker 3>I sharpened up my gucca skills. I knew how to

0:57:55.040 --> 0:57:57.360
<v Speaker 3>go to the grocery store and take a pack of

0:57:57.400 --> 0:57:59.040
<v Speaker 3>meat and take the censer off and go to the

0:57:59.040 --> 0:58:01.200
<v Speaker 3>freezer and stick it down my girdle to get out.

0:58:02.640 --> 0:58:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I had to feed money.

0:58:03.800 --> 0:58:05.400
<v Speaker 2>I take it. Your kids know about stash?

0:58:05.880 --> 0:58:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, yes we eat we got money, We

0:58:07.840 --> 0:58:08.480
<v Speaker 1>still eat it.

0:58:09.960 --> 0:58:13.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay, I love that you got personal.

0:58:13.520 --> 0:58:17.160
<v Speaker 3>Like, well, you know what, why sugar coat the true

0:58:17.280 --> 0:58:18.960
<v Speaker 3>I did what I had to do to take care

0:58:18.960 --> 0:58:22.400
<v Speaker 3>of my family. So when when they would take ostracize

0:58:22.400 --> 0:58:24.600
<v Speaker 3>me and say like they're doing now this whole cancel

0:58:24.640 --> 0:58:29.880
<v Speaker 3>culture thing, you are starving some possibly starving somebody's kid. Yeah,

0:58:29.920 --> 0:58:31.920
<v Speaker 3>you know you you mad at this person because of

0:58:31.960 --> 0:58:34.200
<v Speaker 3>a statement they said, like you don't have an opinion,

0:58:34.440 --> 0:58:36.880
<v Speaker 3>like you haven't said some things that could offend somebody

0:58:37.040 --> 0:58:40.760
<v Speaker 3>or have benefits or still offending somebody, and you want

0:58:40.800 --> 0:58:45.920
<v Speaker 3>to stop somebody because I hurt your feelings. You get

0:58:45.960 --> 0:58:49.480
<v Speaker 3>over feelings, you don't get over AR fifteens. Yes, you

0:58:49.560 --> 0:58:51.680
<v Speaker 3>know this country is so backwards and baffling to me.

0:58:52.000 --> 0:58:54.120
<v Speaker 3>We want to take away books that take away history,

0:58:54.240 --> 0:58:55.720
<v Speaker 3>but we don't want to We don't want to stop

0:58:55.760 --> 0:58:59.560
<v Speaker 3>selling AR fifteens. That's making history because air fifteen gonna

0:58:59.560 --> 0:59:02.240
<v Speaker 3>make you his three.

0:59:02.480 --> 0:59:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you I maybe maybe I'm twisted.

0:59:05.840 --> 0:59:09.240
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm against. I'm one hundred percent against cancel culture.

0:59:09.320 --> 0:59:11.560
<v Speaker 2>My husband's a comedian, my little brother is a comedian,

0:59:11.960 --> 0:59:16.840
<v Speaker 2>and I can only imagine, like, you know, the that

0:59:17.040 --> 0:59:19.520
<v Speaker 2>area where you know comedy is supposed to laugh at

0:59:19.560 --> 0:59:22.360
<v Speaker 2>my pain, right, and it's just you know, it's now

0:59:22.360 --> 0:59:24.600
<v Speaker 2>in an area where you know, now you have to

0:59:24.600 --> 0:59:28.280
<v Speaker 2>be considerate of the audience's feelings, which usually they.

0:59:28.120 --> 0:59:30.200
<v Speaker 3>Want you to walk around on Asia's I can't even

0:59:30.240 --> 0:59:32.360
<v Speaker 3>balance their regular shoes. I damn sure they're gonna walk

0:59:32.360 --> 0:59:34.120
<v Speaker 3>around the way as you're gonna get it. You're just

0:59:34.160 --> 0:59:36.480
<v Speaker 3>gonna get it. And here it is. It's not gonna.

0:59:36.240 --> 0:59:38.760
<v Speaker 2>Stop me, but you're not you're not afraid of cancel culture.

0:59:38.800 --> 0:59:41.480
<v Speaker 3>I am not afraid of anything but Jesus, that's it.

0:59:42.280 --> 0:59:44.000
<v Speaker 3>They have stopped a lot of work for me. But

0:59:44.040 --> 0:59:46.200
<v Speaker 3>it's just like you stop work for me. I came

0:59:46.240 --> 0:59:48.520
<v Speaker 3>and Sammy for a third year for Laugh and Learn.

0:59:49.280 --> 0:59:51.880
<v Speaker 3>The bookings keep coming in from the comedy clubs because

0:59:51.920 --> 0:59:53.040
<v Speaker 3>the mouth don't stop.

0:59:52.800 --> 0:59:54.720
<v Speaker 1>And the talent is here.

0:59:54.760 --> 0:59:58.600
<v Speaker 3>What you're gonna silence me? No, that ain't gonna silence me.

0:59:59.480 --> 1:00:01.840
<v Speaker 3>Still in my we ignite, but that ain't gonna silence me?

1:00:03.520 --> 1:00:05.880
<v Speaker 2>All right? Well, where can everybody catch up with you

1:00:05.920 --> 1:00:06.680
<v Speaker 2>and keep up with you?

1:00:07.080 --> 1:00:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

1:00:07.400 --> 1:00:10.840
<v Speaker 3>You can follow me on Instagram at Monroe Flame, on

1:00:10.920 --> 1:00:14.240
<v Speaker 3>Twitter at Flame Monroe, on YouTube at Flame Monroe, on

1:00:14.280 --> 1:00:17.000
<v Speaker 3>TikTok at Flame Monroe one two five, and on Facebook

1:00:17.000 --> 1:00:21.240
<v Speaker 3>at Marcus Flame Monroe Parker. And you can go to

1:00:21.280 --> 1:00:23.520
<v Speaker 3>my bio on Instagram to see where my books are

1:00:23.560 --> 1:00:26.360
<v Speaker 3>coming up. Because I'm coming to younkers. I'm coming to pleasanton.

1:00:26.720 --> 1:00:28.400
<v Speaker 3>But every Monday you can see me at the Hollywood

1:00:28.480 --> 1:00:31.240
<v Speaker 3>Laugh Factor on Sunset blahlah blah. We have the best

1:00:31.280 --> 1:00:33.800
<v Speaker 3>best adult fund for free voices. Come and hang out

1:00:33.840 --> 1:00:37.040
<v Speaker 3>with me. There's no censor and You're going to be

1:00:37.360 --> 1:00:38.360
<v Speaker 3>thoroughly entertained.

1:00:38.360 --> 1:00:40.440
<v Speaker 1>And this is my nice dress. This is my Christian

1:00:40.520 --> 1:00:42.800
<v Speaker 1>dress Monday.

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<v Speaker 3>And.

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<v Speaker 2>Can bitch do what we do?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let me see you pop?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you do it right? Okay, I'm not there yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>When your daughter's like getting on your nerves screaming hop

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<v Speaker 3>that fan.

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<v Speaker 2>I guarantee you. Once my daughter sees me do this,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the only thing she's gonna be doing next. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you guys for tuning in to another episode of Eating

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<v Speaker 2>While Broke. The disc soccotash was definitely something you can

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<v Speaker 2>make at home, easy, affordable, convenient. You know, in my

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<v Speaker 2>personal opinion, skip the okra up please peace out.

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<v Speaker 5>You better keep it wet.

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<v Speaker 2>For more Eating While Broke from iHeartRadio and The Black Effect,

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