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Speaker 1: Hmmm, y'all had all the booby.

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Speaker 2: I ain't got I don't have boobs, so I got them.

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Speaker 2: I had them for like three seconds when I had

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Speaker 2: a baby.

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Speaker 1: I borral man. They alone, They going back.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke. I'm your host,

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Speaker 2: Coleen Wit and today we have Emmy nominated flaming role

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Speaker 2: in the building comedian, actress, writer, entertainer, podcaster. Also, what's

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Speaker 2: what's the name of your podcast? Learn? You guys could

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Speaker 2: check her out on the Black Effects. So today what

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Speaker 2: do you have us eating?

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Speaker 1: She forgot dad, mom, brother.

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Speaker 2: It's sad because I did leave that out on purpose.

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Speaker 2: But then no, that is probably the hardest title, right

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Speaker 2: that is that is.

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Speaker 1: The hardest, the most joyful, and the most pain.

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Speaker 2: And how many kids you?

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Speaker 1: Three? Three? He wasn't playing just wait, I wouldn't with

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Speaker 1: tight with it out mistakes, not at all. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for having me. Hello everyone, eating Eating Broken. You know

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Speaker 1: what we're gonna have? This is what I ate when

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Speaker 1: I was broken.

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Speaker 3: Scutas suckutash is a poor man's meal, but it will

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Speaker 3: feel you up.

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Speaker 2: How do you how do you spell that sucker tash?

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Speaker 3: Now you asked me some difficult questions, sucker tash. So

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking it's s U C c A T t

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Speaker 3: A s h.

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Speaker 2: I think did you make it up?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not. My grandmother May used to make this all

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Speaker 3: the time. It was a bunch of us, so she

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Speaker 3: had to stretch it out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so what are the ingredients?

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Speaker 3: So the ingredients actually is our whole curnel of corn cutokra,

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Speaker 3: a tomato, onion, green pepper, celery, and whatever season you

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Speaker 3: season to taste however you want. And usually bacon. I

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Speaker 3: don't see the bacon up here, and you put it

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Speaker 3: over a bit of rice.

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Speaker 2: We do have bacon, and you.

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Speaker 3: Can imagine feeding about nine kids screaming and it will fill.

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Speaker 1: And it was healthy because it was ventance.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because I saw Okrah. And when I saw Oprah,

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Speaker 2: I said.

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Speaker 1: Oh heck no. I'll tell you about okrah.

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Speaker 3: Y'all young kids say macaroni and cheese. Let us all

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Speaker 3: here say Okrah. I'm gonna let you sit on there

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Speaker 3: and think about that for a minute.

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Speaker 2: Something. You have to be very good at cooking. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna tell you a little story. Okay. My mom is

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Speaker 2: Jamaican and she would do the whole Okrah thing. It's

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Speaker 2: my mama was a great cook. But me and my

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Speaker 2: siblings would band together that every time the Okrah rent

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Speaker 2: us kids, was just to hide the Oprah and she

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Speaker 2: would never find it.

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Speaker 2: It really is flimey though well, and then okay, and

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Speaker 2: then I was in North Carolina with Nick Cannon and blimey.

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 2: I was out there and I had told him like,

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Speaker 2: I really hate Okra and he was like, you ain't

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Speaker 2: never had fried Okra? And I said, okay, you know,

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Speaker 2: So I can't mess with Okra. So I'm going to

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Speaker 2: gracefully take this one for the team for eating while broke.

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Speaker 2: But we do have bacon. Do you want me to

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Speaker 2: like bacon?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Please? Because bacon is the starter.

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Speaker 2: All right, So we're now back, So we have your

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Speaker 2: apple with bacon, all right, So let's get the cooking.

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Speaker 3: Let me drop a little olive oil here, saying, oh,

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Speaker 3: I brought you a gift before I get started.

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Speaker 1: I brought you a fan.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what is your face? I want to see you

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Speaker 3: pop it too? Here we go, Hey, what is that?

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Speaker 1: What is that?

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Speaker 2: Can't bitch do what I do?

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Speaker 2: This is this is the this is gonna be the

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Speaker 3: Everybody mindset is what he's she we That is my

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Speaker 3: own preferred pronoun. He's wet because I pretty much feel

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Speaker 2: Is I like that? I like that?

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Speaker 1: I cover all the bases?

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Speaker 2: Is that you?

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Speaker 1: That is me?

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Speaker 1: And in my sexty day, I was.

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Speaker 2: Young, So you started out. So let's kind of take

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Speaker 2: it back to you call it succotash circuit circuitans. So

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Speaker 3: We were living in the projects of Chicago on the

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Speaker 3: jip That's what everybody called my grandmother, Big Jipu. She

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Speaker 3: was my grandmother ran guns, so candy, uh so women

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Speaker 1: This was the gains of other.

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Speaker 3: Projects, and it was a bunch of grandkids. She had

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Speaker 1: My grandma was a blu leg My grandmother is a pimp.

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Speaker 1: I love my grandmother. May she rest in peace.

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Speaker 2: And she raised you.

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Speaker 3: She pretty much raised my mama. Was bucked while my

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Speaker 3: I didn't understand that when I was a kid, But

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Speaker 3: now that I have my own children, I get. I

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Speaker 3: imagine what Valerie was like. That's my mother, Valerie. So

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Speaker 3: my grandmother stepped up, you know, and a lot of

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Speaker 3: that is how you say it in Spanish.

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Speaker 2: Well I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, you look like I'm so well.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, a lot of grandmothers had to step up to

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Speaker 3: it was but I was the first grand baby. I

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Speaker 3: I hope my other my other siblings don't hear that.

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Speaker 2: I guarantee you and you'll get that random phone call.

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Speaker 2: So this was the signature edition Grandma's house.

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Speaker 3: This was the poor man's meal when money was tight

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Speaker 1: Chicken wings was dirt cheap back then. Good guy, you.

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Speaker 3: Could get a whole bag of chicken wings and feed

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Speaker 1: Fat dollars, my bag. You want chicken wing needs to

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Speaker 2: Yesterday's prices, Yeah, yesterday's prices. So you grew up with

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: What was that first step?

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Speaker 1: Well? I never I could not sing, I couldn't dance.

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Speaker 3: Well, what a lot of people don't know about me

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Speaker 1: I had a four year music scholarship to the Cookman.

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Speaker 1: I played the obo.

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Speaker 3: I was in All City Orchestra and man, I almost

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what that is.

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Speaker 3: I was masterful at it. My teacher, mister Harold Anthony Bradman,

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Speaker 3: I don't I think that's what's missing with teaching now.

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Speaker 3: Oh everybody didn't get a war. When I was a kid.

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Speaker 3: If you didn't do well, you got okay, we'll see

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Speaker 3: you next time. It made you thrive to do better

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Speaker 1: Little Johnny, it's not deserve board. He was too slow.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, that's low heat.

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Speaker 1: I got it on low heat. Let me.

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Speaker 3: I ain't got my real glasses on the girl. I

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Speaker 1: You know, when you get old like hair.

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Speaker 2: I'll put it on four. Yeah, there you're good.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna see you don't even want you don't

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Speaker 2: Cook? I thought sleep on me?

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Speaker 3: So what you do is you saw you get to

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Speaker 3: the tomatoes and the celery, I mean the okra last,

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Speaker 3: because the okra takes no time. It's just pretty much steamed.

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Speaker 2: Now, is there a reason why you went my frozen

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Speaker 3: Because it's quick and I got three kids not being

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Speaker 3: to shut the corn and roll with tomato. Get cut

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Speaker 1: I ain't got time for that girl. Three kids, you know,

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Speaker 1: two of the same age and they're not twins.

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Speaker 2: How oh, never mind, just.

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Speaker 1: You forget already.

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Speaker 2: I got olds at the same time, two different.

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Speaker 1: And both my baby mama's named Tasha.

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Speaker 2: I know someone that their baby mama's one named the

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Speaker 2: kid Aja and the other one named the kid a.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, two different baby mamas.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I said, they must have been beefing, but your

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Speaker 2: baby mama's got along well it well, probably not.

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Speaker 1: Know each other like that.

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Speaker 3: But both of their names was Tasha, but their names

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Speaker 1: See, both my baby mamas are very masculine.

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Speaker 3: Stood girls like so that you know, we all come

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Speaker 3: up with our own name.

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Speaker 1: I'm flaying that ain't my legal name.

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Speaker 3: So I didn't know they was Tasha's until after the

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Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, So you and all your baby mamas get

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Speaker 3: They say, oh, I'm reliving my childhood. There's no need

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Speaker 3: I was playing my whole twenties. I didn't have a

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Speaker 3: Right, Well, I don't know if it was an era.

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Speaker 1: With somebody who never loved me, how do you figure that?

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Speaker 3: But when I got out of it and I realized

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Speaker 3: But it just didn't work. But I did get cussy

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Speaker 2: To Okay, okay, perfect, So you you're going to school

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Speaker 1: That's me being koy.

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Speaker 3: I didn't even know I wanted to play music. I

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Speaker 3: I went in one day. I was really really short

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Speaker 2: Right now, you're what you're like? You got to be

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Speaker 2: like six. No, no, no, I'm only five, only five eight.

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Speaker 3: A look, I just have a big princi I'm sure,

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Speaker 3: let me stick keep starting my food and uh. I

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Speaker 1: And it gave me because I didn't have a dad

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Speaker 3: My mom was on drugs for such a long time,

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Speaker 3: Whenever you think you're wrong or you're on the wrong

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Speaker 3: to you. That I did it this way for this reason.

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Speaker 2: Like you'll have an aha moment, Yeah, like.

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Speaker 3: Why did I join the band? And then way out

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Speaker 3: Joined the band started off with the saxophone. Then I

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Speaker 3: moved to the clarinet, and then I moved to the flute.

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Speaker 3: Saxophone was my first joy, I thought, so was the clarinet,

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Speaker 3: then Harold Brace say, Marcus, that's how it used to

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Speaker 3: It's because you're a good reader of music. Because I

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Speaker 3: I read not only in trouble clip not a base clap,

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Speaker 3: But when I got it, it was something about the

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Speaker 3: My instrument brought me peace. So that's why I touched it.

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Speaker 2: I do have whatever disrespectful names you recalled.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, my mother was quite abusive. She was.

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Speaker 3: My mother was on drugs though, and she my grandmother,

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Speaker 3: was abusive to her, from what she tells me. And

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Speaker 3: you don't give a damn. You want my mom to

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Speaker 3: But a lot of times parents need to stop thinking

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Speaker 3: They are one day they will be adults. They're just

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Speaker 3: little people. They're not babies. They're little people. Sometimes you

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Speaker 3: lot of times we don't know, and we don't understand

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Speaker 3: that as children until we get older, and some of

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Speaker 3: us cannot forgive that. Now me and my mother's relationship

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Speaker 3: has been completely repaired.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah we did.

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Speaker 2: We both did the work to prepair it. Or did

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Speaker 3: We both did a lot of forgiving on us. I

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Speaker 3: she what my grandmother put her through, but she broke.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't a girl, so the cycle. You can't do

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Speaker 3: to me what she did you. But the name she

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Speaker 2: I have a question, and this is an off off

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Speaker 2: you think it's okay for a kid to see parents

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, you should show you if.

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Speaker 2: You should, like if I cry? Should I? Is it

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Speaker 2: okay to cry in front of a child or is

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Speaker 2: it not okay? You hide and protect.

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Speaker 3: I think it makes a child more attenked to you

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Speaker 3: because when my mother used to cry when I was

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Speaker 3: cry too because my mother was my mother was hurt.

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Speaker 1: I felt that emotion.

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Speaker 3: I think that this world that we live in now

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Speaker 1: I think you should show your children child emotions. How

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Speaker 1: is it going to pass on?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So you know if you if something hurts you, you

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Speaker 3: cry about it. If something bothers you, you want to

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Speaker 3: speak up about it now.

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Speaker 1: So why would not show all of them?

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Speaker 3: When you're happy, it's a happy emotion, So why would

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Speaker 3: you show all the emotions?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Everything is not a dai

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Speaker 1: of emoji to stay new generation.

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Speaker 2: But I just thought because with kids, you know, the

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Speaker 2: assumption is, you know, uh, I guess you just want

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Speaker 2: to like protect them from.

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Speaker 1: The world that we live in.

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Speaker 3: You can't protect your kids from going to the grocery store, church,

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Speaker 3: What you have to do is be the best you

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Speaker 3: that you can be. There is no book, There is

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Speaker 3: no right or wrong way. There is a wrong way

445
00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,920
Speaker 3: to be a parent, But there is no correct way

446
00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,080
Speaker 3: to be a parent. You be the parent that you

447
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,560
Speaker 3: want that you want. That's the best thing you can do.

448
00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:45,080
Speaker 1: Be the parent that you want.

449
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,560
Speaker 2: So after music, where does comedy? Is comedy? The next step?

450
00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,680
Speaker 2: Like where is? I feel like something had to happen

451
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:02,520
Speaker 2: between music?

452
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,720
Speaker 1: Like what I had a girl? Drag? I started doing drag.

453
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,520
Speaker 3: But you know what made me know that I was

454
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,879
Speaker 3: quick with it was when we were in high school

455
00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,880
Speaker 3: we played the dozens. You know, we used to play

456
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 3: this game called beat Yo Coup Chae, beat Yo.

457
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,480
Speaker 1: My name is Flame. I'm having fame, you know, like

458
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 1: that I got good games, okay yo, Mama is lame. Okay, okay.

459
00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:26,400
Speaker 1: So when we were on the.

460
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,639
Speaker 3: Bad buses, because we used to do the games and

461
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 3: we were all together, it was just great fun.

462
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 1: And looking back on that, I'm like a lot of

463
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:34,720
Speaker 1: these kids because.

464
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 3: They they on their phone, they don't even look at

465
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 3: each other, and I'm like, they don't never understand what

466
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,399
Speaker 3: that was like. And I'm glad I have those memories.

467
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:44,920
Speaker 3: I hope I never lose my memory. I can lose

468
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 3: my dad mad, but I want to lose my memory.

469
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 2: So in those interactions you started to I.

470
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,159
Speaker 3: Real fell out because I had to fight girl. You know,

471
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 3: if you did too bad, they will fight you. So

472
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:56,880
Speaker 3: I used to get beat up.

473
00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 1: A couple of times.

474
00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:58,680
Speaker 2: At the point.

475
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 1: You're some boy was a gay boy.

476
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 3: I was the openly gay boy. And I was always sissy.

477
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 3: I was always assistant. That's not everybody would that's sissy Marcus.

478
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,639
Speaker 3: But I was always me because my grandmother in stead

479
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,120
Speaker 3: just be happy, just be just be happy. She knew

480
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,159
Speaker 3: I jumped double dutch. I was the best jumping up

481
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 3: double dutch rope jumper and everything. But and I got

482
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:21,919
Speaker 3: into a lot of fights. But it was a different

483
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,719
Speaker 3: type of bully, and it toughened me up. And also

484
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 3: nobody died. You know, we didn't have the internet to say, oh,

485
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,879
Speaker 3: a hundred people say you you funny looking, and a

486
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 3: hundred people agree with it. First of all, I don't

487
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 3: know the person who said it, and damn show don't

488
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 3: know the other hundred that agreed with it. So it's

489
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 3: just it was a different time, and I don't know,

490
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 3: it made me strong. And then when I got out

491
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 3: of high school, because it took me five years to

492
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 3: get ou of high school, did you catch that. Yeah,

493
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 3: that's because I wouldn't go. I wasn't going. My mother

494
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 3: was going. I moved out and everything, and so I

495
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:56,360
Speaker 3: was doing my own thing.

496
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 1: I thought I was.

497
00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,040
Speaker 3: Grown for real, but I wanted my high schoo It

498
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,199
Speaker 3: was the Plumber because my band teacher told me to

499
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,919
Speaker 3: come back. He begged me to come back to school. Okay,

500
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 3: that's why I said that. Man was great to me.

501
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 3: And then I started doing drag shows. We were We

502
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 3: graduated high school and I took a year to go

503
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 3: to a little like a little local college. It was

504
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 3: some kind of word processing thing. I was good at typing,

505
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 3: but I didn't want to do that. I discovered the

506
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 3: night life and we started going to the gay bars.

507
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 3: And I went to this club called the Baton Show

508
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 3: Lounge in Chicago. The Baton is still around too. It's

509
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 3: a female impersonation club and girl, I saw these men

510
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 3: dressed up as women, and I was fascinated.

511
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. I was like, I never do that.

512
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 2: You said you wouldn't do that.

513
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 3: I said I would never do that. Halloween came. I

514
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 3: didn't want to be a clown. I didn't want to

515
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,479
Speaker 3: be a fire Trucker. I wanted to be a girl

516
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 3: good goud, I said, I was gonna do it one time.

517
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 3: Here we are thirty some years later, cities and Jesus,

518
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 3: that's why I tell people all the time, you never

519
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 3: know what your life, where life is going to take you,

520
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 3: So don't make decisions that are that you can't take.

521
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so he started with the drag and then

522
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 2: so how long are you doing the drag for it?

523
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 2: So when you say doing drag, like that's not.

524
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 1: A career, right, Oh my god, that was a career.

525
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 2: So you would make money doing I was.

526
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 3: I did the drag shows in Chicago. So and then

527
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 3: let me tell you, I never wanted to be on

528
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 3: the microphone.

529
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: We would.

530
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,360
Speaker 3: I was just one of the one of the one

531
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,199
Speaker 3: of the girls, one of the players. They always had

532
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 3: to host. My sister Tasha Thomas, May she rest in peace.

533
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 3: Ages took a lot of my friends in the agies.

534
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 3: Took a lot of my friends.

535
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: And she was like.

536
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 3: When I first did drag, the very first time, it

537
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 3: was at the Baton, But then I went to the

538
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 3: black club, it was called Club Laray, the greatest club ever,

539
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 3: and I did a Teina Marie song you make love

540
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 3: like springtime.

541
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: Remind you. I did the Black Song at the White

542
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: Club and the White song at the Black Club. This

543
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 1: is this is me wow.

544
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 3: So uh, she said, what did you do, baby, I

545
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 3: said the attend She looked at me, she said, yeah, baby,

546
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 3: drag ain't for everybody.

547
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 1: Oh girl, my heart was broken. I was so hurt

548
00:23:59,280 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: behind that.

549
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 3: But I wasn't hurt to a point because Harold Bray,

550
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 3: the teacher, had made me tough. I wasn't hurt to

551
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,360
Speaker 3: a point where I'm gonna go home and I ain't

552
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 3: gonna never do drag again. I'm gonna stick my head

553
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 3: into saying I was at the point of, oh, but

554
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 3: you don't tell me what I can't do. I'm gonna

555
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 3: show you. Yeah I did, and I got better and better.

556
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 3: And so then she got into a fight with another

557
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 3: young lady at the club. Okay, and the frank corner

558
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 3: my business.

559
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 2: For anyone that doesn't know, And I'm gonna say anyone

560
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 2: because me, I'm gonna say for me when you say

561
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 2: drag queen, because I kind of know and I kind

562
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 2: of don't. So I've been to a club and I've

563
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 2: seen drag queens at like Hamburger Marie in La. Yeah, okay,

564
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 2: and they performed. So when you say you did drag,

565
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 2: that's what you were doing. Your performing, you're on stage. Okay,

566
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 2: I got it.

567
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 3: But we had a different breed of drag. I was

568
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 3: to me was very different. This is a very different

569
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 3: era of drag. But so we were at a club

570
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 3: called the Clubhouse. Tatter got into a fight with another

571
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 3: young lady named Casey. Makes you rest in peace? I

572
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 3: told the agent through out of my friend. And so

573
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 3: a guy named Mark, the manager, Tino guy, came in

574
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 3: a judgement. He said, Tash, she got suspended night. We

575
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 3: need a host. So we all live in the mirror puting.

576
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 1: Now make up on it.

577
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 3: I ain't paid no attention because that was never something

578
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 3: I was going to do. He says, flame you do it?

579
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 3: I said, oh, absolutely not. He said, well, I said,

580
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 3: I'm horrible on them, like, I don't want to talk

581
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 3: to these people.

582
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: I don't know them.

583
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 3: They want to see me be a girl. They don't

584
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 3: want to hear me talking nothing. So I went out there.

585
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 3: I did he put He forced me, I give you

586
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 3: an extra fifty bucks. I said, oh okay. I went

587
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 3: and I was terrible. Oh, no, I was terrible. So

588
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 3: he said, come back next week and do it again.

589
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 3: I said, I don't want to. I don't want to

590
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 3: do this. He said, do it again. I did it again.

591
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 3: I was worse the second week than I was the

592
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 3: first week, almost to the point where the audience was

593
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 3: going to move me because it was a gay audience.

594
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 3: They played no games. Then he said one more time.

595
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 3: I said, why do you keep making me do this?

596
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 3: Which which is a testament to sometimes people see something

597
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 3: in you that you don't see in yourself. I went

598
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 3: out the third week and somebody heckled me from the

599
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 3: audience and said something really horrible.

600
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 1: I don't even remember, but whatever my comeback was. The

601
00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: room erupted.

602
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 3: I said, oh, yes, that's what you're supposed to do.

603
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 3: Ever since then, I was so I was born.

604
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: Now, mind you.

605
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 3: I hosted the drag shows for seventeen years successfully in Chicago.

606
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 3: I would have five or six hundred people come out

607
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 3: on a Monday Thursday night in the middle of a

608
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 3: blizzard fifty degrees below zero to see flame moro.

609
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 2: Okay, and you're at this point just hosting. You're not

610
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 2: doing stand up.

611
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 3: No, I hadn't done stand up yet, so we went

612
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 3: to all jokes aside. One night, me and a couple

613
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 3: of friends of my comedy club just you know, just

614
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 3: we want to go to the comedy club. I think

615
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 3: it was like an open mic night or something, and

616
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 3: Damion Williams was the host. So I was never a

617
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 3: passable transforman, like you knew, you know, I mean, the

618
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 3: body was banging, but you knew. The face was like, uh,

619
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 3: that ain't no girl. And I'm not offended by that

620
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 3: because I'm very comfortable with who I am and who

621
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 3: I was. And so he started with me from the

622
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 3: from the stage. He didn't know he had met mother Goose,

623
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 3: so I told that ass up. So he invited me

624
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 3: to come up on stage and we went back and forth.

625
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 3: And at the time, I was on house arrests and

626
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 3: I had on pants and I had on a teddy

627
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 3: because teddies were popular at the time, and sure you

628
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 3: have the way back that was. And he said, I said,

629
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 3: don't play with me. Play are you know I'm only

630
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 3: out on loan, I'm on house arrests. I pulled my pants,

631
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 3: laid up and show my house arrests ain't cle And

632
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 3: the whole club went crazy.

633
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 2: Why were you on house arrests.

634
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna get to that. So that's what That's

635
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: what I knew. I'm like, oh yeah, this is what

636
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to do.

637
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 3: So I was on house arrest because I went to

638
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 3: I went to prison for the scept of practice in

639
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety one.

640
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 2: What does that mean? What is practice?

641
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 3: Girl openeding fictitious bank accounts underfect names and you know,

642
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 3: like stealing bank robin, I'm funny in Clyde together, I'm.

643
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: Buddy in Clyde together.

644
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 2: Okay.

645
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 3: And I was sentenced to three and a half years.

646
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 3: My first defense, I had never got caught. That ain't

647
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 3: mean I had never done a crime. I had never

648
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 3: got caught.

649
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, so you was gangster.

650
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: I told you.

651
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 3: I was raised by all Gates's grandmama and every but

652
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 3: the judge that sendence me her name. I want you

653
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 3: to remember this name in Google. Her name was just

654
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 3: Joan core Boy. She I had a great lawyer, Jeffrey.

655
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 3: Jeffrey's last name. I can't think that number man somewhere else.

656
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 3: I was about to say Epstein, that's name is damn sure,

657
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 3: ain't no Jeffrey, no no. But he was a Jewish guy,

658
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 3: very very nice. He charged me a gang of money.

659
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 3: All the money I saw out there, I gave it

660
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 3: to him to get me out of jail. But he

661
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 3: told me that she had been data that she had

662
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 3: a ninety seven percent conviction rate for black and brown

663
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 3: me and this was ninety one. So I'm like, he's like,

664
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 3: she's going to send this you to prison just to

665
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 3: put the eggs on you. I'm like, okay, he said,

666
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get your at least typing possible. Now, mind you,

667
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 3: I'm twenty one years old, maybe brand new breast and

668
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 3: plants I got in Tijuana, Mexico for sixteen hundred dollars.

669
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 3: I've been taking hormones for a couple of years. I

670
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 3: was I had got silicon in my hips, I was shaped,

671
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 3: I had long red head to my shoulders, my own

672
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 3: haird They didn't make you cut your hair anything. They

673
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 3: put me and if she sentenced me to a me

674
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 3: and spenitentiary for three and a half years.

675
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

676
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: Exactly.

677
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 3: There was no trends in jail at the time. There

678
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 3: was nothing like me. I was a complete anominal.

679
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: That's very dangerous, right, if.

680
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: You didn't have my mindset in my mouthpiece.

681
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 3: Thank god that I was raised by the people that

682
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 3: I was raised, because the intimidation didn't work with me.

683
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 3: So the thing to do was to lock me up

684
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,479
Speaker 3: in the hospital because that's what they could say, they

685
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 3: could keep me safe.

686
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be in a hospital. Wasn't nothing

687
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: wrong with me.

688
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 3: I wanted to be out with everybody else because at

689
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 3: that time it was a different time with prison.

690
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 2: So so you preferred to go to regular per.

691
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah I was. I was. I didn't want to

692
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: go to jail at all. Yeah.

693
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 3: I didn't want to be locked up. I didn't want

694
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 3: to be confined. I didn't want to be put in segregation.

695
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 3: I hadn't done anything wrong. So they tried to do

696
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 3: that because I was trains and there was no place

697
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 3: for your Now you send me to prison, now, girl,

698
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 3: they got a whole wing of training. I got trains

699
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 3: every they got a whole trans prison, I think. And

700
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 3: but I incited three riots in thirty days and didn't

701
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,239
Speaker 3: even know that. I'd say it right because I had

702
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 3: to wear the state issued T shirts, and the T

703
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 3: shirts were paper thieves, so you could see my area,

704
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,239
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, and my friend used to sew up

705
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 3: my jogging pants for me to make him fit like

706
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 3: stretch pants.

707
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:09,479
Speaker 1: This was ninety one.

708
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 3: Wasn't those stretch pants he was sewing up. I got

709
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,719
Speaker 3: with four a pack of cigarettes. So I was in

710
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 3: there just causing a ruckus. Mind you, I had a

711
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 3: full bread and it didn't matter. It did not matter.

712
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 3: So the warden at that time came and found me.

713
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 3: He says, are you Parker b whatever my institution name was.

714
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 3: I said I am. This was forty six days in.

715
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 3: He says, bait you coming up out of my prison.

716
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 3: You got these inward uneasy? That's exactly what he said

717
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 3: to me.

718
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: Wow.

719
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 3: Two days later I was in my own house. I

720
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 3: served eleven and a half months on house arrests in

721
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 3: my own house.

722
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

723
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 3: Look at Godo, no catch this story. Let me finish

724
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 3: the story. We ain't get back back to the judge. Meanwhile,

725
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 3: about a year later, the judge was on vacation with

726
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 3: her family in Boca Raton, Florida. True story, Google it,

727
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 3: and she was killed in a freak accident. You know

728
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 3: how you have to push the clicker and the electrical

729
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 3: gate closes. The electual gate when you know when you

730
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 3: the sensor. When it hits ther sensor, it is supposed

731
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 3: to stop. There was no censor. It never stopped. The

732
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: gate crushed and killed her family, suit and got twenty

733
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 3: million dollars. Oh no, did I fail to mention that

734
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 3: I got an A on my online electricians class while

735
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 3: I was on house to rest. That's a joke. I'd

736
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 3: never been in the vocal Town, Florida. But the story

737
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 3: is true.

738
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: Google it.

739
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So how do you go from Chicago seventeen

740
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: years to where you're at today? I'm trying to catch.

741
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: Up, catch up today.

742
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 3: So I met Tasha for first Tasha my son's mom,

743
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 3: and we was just kicking the bobos and we ended

744
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 3: up getting pregnant.

745
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: So I wanted her. She had already had a son

746
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: and maybe two years older.

747
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 2: This is the one you love, right.

748
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: No, this was the boy I was just kicking the

749
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: bobos with the first Tash. Tasha too was the one

750
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: I love.

751
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,719
Speaker 3: And she said and what I respected about her, may

752
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: she rest in peace. May you rest in peace? Tasha

753
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 3: was She was like, I don't want another baby, fling,

754
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 3: I said, just have my baby. I'd never actually for anything,

755
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 3: I never had to go to court. We never had

756
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 3: to set no papers. It was I took him home

757
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 3: from the hospital. If she wanted to see him, she could,

758
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 3: but it was my baby and he stealed my baby.

759
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: My baby got full rat to TSU. Last year.

760
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 3: He only did one semester Tennessee State Universey made the

761
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 3: Ding's list that he hated it.

762
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: So you asked her for the baby, and then she

763
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: did it.

764
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 3: And never gave me no grief over the years. Now,

765
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 3: the other one who I loved, we went back and forth.

766
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 3: I had to go to court eleven times here in

767
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 3: Long Beach just to get custy with my kids.

768
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: Eleven times.

769
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 3: I didn't go in drag, I didn't go dressed up,

770
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 3: I didn't go over the top. But the judge, because

771
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 3: I was my presentation is transgender, made me come to

772
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 3: court eleven times just from my own biological children. Wow,

773
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 3: Illinois told me no. Illinois just said absolutely not. That's

774
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 3: why that was the reason we moved from Illinois to California.

775
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: Everybody said you was chasing your dream.

776
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 3: I was chasing that too, But I wanted custody of

777
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 3: my children and I didn't even need no colleges. And

778
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 3: why I'm living in life. I'm living who I am.

779
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 3: This is who I was when they were conceived. Why

780
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: would anything change? Yes, please, why would anything change? So

781
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 3: that's where we're at.

782
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 2: Okay, so now you're in LA you have your children.

783
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: How does flame and Roll turn? You know, to flame

784
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 2: and roll?

785
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: So I was working at Hamburger, Mary's and Long Beach

786
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: for a long time.

787
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: Really, Oh yeah, I wonder if you went to you

788
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: were there when I went You were in Hollywood, right, yeah,

789
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 2: the Hollywood.

790
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I never really went there. I used to work

791
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 3: at the one in Loan Beach. But they were very

792
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 3: racist behind the scenes. Let me just say that publicly,

793
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 3: because racism does exist within the game community. You know,

794
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 3: you love to say we're not racist.

795
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 4: Bush yeahs added so just corn okras, celery, onions, tomato.

796
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: And some lawries.

797
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: I had some accent. I put that to that.

798
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 3: And that's with MSG now without okay, without that's like

799
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 3: having sex with no kindom good god. Uh So yeah,

800
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 3: And so I worked there and then I did botched

801
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 3: in maybe twenty sixteen, and they fixed my left boot

802
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 3: because my left booth had encapsulated. It was kind of

803
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 3: Gangmang and leaning to the left. It was thank and

804
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 3: I didn't know. I was never in any paint or anything.

805
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 3: And because when I worked at hammerger Mary's, I tell you,

806
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 3: God put you where he needs you to be. I

807
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 3: was miserable there. I made tons of money. I was

808
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 3: the biggest girl there as far as would make all

809
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 3: the money. But I was miserable because they were just

810
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 3: they were just it just wasn't for me.

811
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 1: Okay and uh.

812
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 3: We were taking pictures and the guy was like, have

813
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 3: you been on I thought about going on boys? I'm

814
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 3: like for what He was like, Oh no, we'll fix

815
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 3: your nose or if you got breathe with just because

816
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 3: your story is so interesting, because he knew I had

817
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 3: kids and everything, and I was like no, And you

818
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 3: know everybody in Hollywood will tell you.

819
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: I'm a producer. I'm yeah.

820
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,720
Speaker 3: He said, I said, I'll give you my email address,

821
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 3: and so I gave him my email address and longer hold.

822
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 3: Two weeks they reached out to me and I went

823
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 3: to see doctor de Bry and I told him I

824
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 3: wanted to make my breast and plant smaller. And when

825
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 3: they did the X ray, he showed me that my

826
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 3: left breast was completely busted. When you watched the episode

827
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 3: on YouTube. You'll see it.

828
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that because I wasn't in no pain.

829
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: I was.

830
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 1: I was. I was slipping off the stage and everything.

831
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: And he was the nicest man.

832
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 3: Oh, he was the nicest, nicest doctor Deboro and that's

833
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 3: it was nice too, But the bro just was the

834
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 3: sweet got very expensive surgery.

835
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: They gave me great boobs.

836
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: Too, and they gave it to you. They didn't comp it.

837
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was for free because you know my story.

838
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 3: But I had to be on TV boom My wig

839
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 3: off and with my fat belly at that time, I

840
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 3: was a little thicker. And when idea the reveal at

841
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 3: Hamburger Mary's, Tiffany had it, who had just taped Girls Trip.

842
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 3: We were already friends. We were already cool and not

843
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 3: like close close friends, but we worked on the circuit

844
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 3: together and we were always very personal with each other.

845
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 3: She she came and introduced me. She had taped Girl Trip,

846
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 3: Girls Trip, but it hadn't dropped yet, so she hadn't

847
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 3: become the superstar that she become. So I told him,

848
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 3: I asked her when she introduced me. She said, yeah,

849
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 3: she came out to the club. She introduced me and

850
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 3: woo wooh, And I told the producer, I said, you

851
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 3: need to watch this girl. This girlgle we magnificent. Tiffany

852
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,479
Speaker 3: came behind the scenes after the fact that she saw

853
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 3: me talking with him, and she says, when I make it,

854
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 3: I'm going to come back and get you. She did,

855
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 3: she did, and she did, and when she got an

856
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 3: opportunity to do Stay Ready, she called me. And there

857
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 3: were forces on that show that did not want me

858
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 3: on that show, that did not want no parts of

859
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 3: me on that show, and Tiffany was like, Nope, this

860
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 3: is who I want.

861
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: This is who's gonna be on the show.

862
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 3: They didn't want me so bad that they didn't want

863
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 3: to submit my episode, and my episode was the only

864
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 3: one submitted and got nominated for Emmy.

865
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: Wow.

866
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 3: Tiffany had his present Stay Ready. And I'm not saying

867
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 3: that like I'm gloating. I'm saying that because I had

868
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 3: to prove somebody wrong. I know what works for me.

869
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 3: I'm very comfortable with flame Moro, and I know what

870
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: my weaknesses and my strengths are.

871
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 2: So where did comedy come into play?

872
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 3: I don't know. And y'all gonna be mad at me

873
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 3: about this. Comedy is not my first live. Stand up

874
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 3: is not my first live as I'm an MC. And

875
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 3: the reason I say that people say, well, isn't it

876
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 3: the same thing? Absolutely not. A lot of comedians can't host,

877
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 3: and a lot of hosts can't do stand up. Luckily

878
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 3: I can do both. But I love to host because

879
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 3: what that allows.

880
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: Me to do is excuse me. Is whatever curtain or

881
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: fear or shield you have in.

882
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 3: Front of you, after sitting with me, listening to me

883
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 3: self defecate, laugh, make jokes about what's happening in the

884
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 3: world from a human aspect twenty minutes here, you're going

885
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 3: to be so familiar with me. You're gonna be like

886
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 3: I forgot the flame was trans slame. Is my uncle

887
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 3: or my auntie or this is?

888
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: That is my gift. My gift is to bring people together,

889
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: not to separate us.

890
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I could see that the first time we met.

891
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: Was I want to say, was it like eight months ago?

892
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: We may have been nine months ago. We were at

893
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 2: the iHeart some iHeart things for the Black Effect, and

894
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: I met you, and I can honestly say I don't

895
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 2: know any trans anything, not in person, like I don't

896
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 2: know anybody personally, and I remember like our first interaction,

897
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 2: you were like I had all these random questions, like

898
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: within three minutes of meeting you, and you were like

899
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: breaking it down and you know you we had some

900
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: of the same viewpoints, but it was for me. It

901
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 2: was so nice to hear it come from you. And

902
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, okay, so you know, my first interaction

903
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: with like a trans person where we could like openly

904
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 2: talk about stuff. And I was throwing stuff at you,

905
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 2: and I remember everybody just looking around like Okay, it's

906
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: Coley's like just gonna keep going. And I was like, well,

907
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 2: was you make me feel comfortable?

908
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: Thank you? That is my gift.

909
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 3: And because I do free voices, which is every Monday

910
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 3: night and then we put your shameless plugging at the

911
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 3: Hollywood Laugh Factory at seven.

912
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: Thirty we do a show at the Laugh Factory.

913
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 1: Huh every Monday night, Monday night, seven thirty pm.

914
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,479
Speaker 3: I have such a diverse audience and and I'm talking

915
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 3: when I say the verse, I'm talking about Asian, Caucasian,

916
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 3: Mexican that that come to enjoy me. Because there I'm

917
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 3: not going to say there is no color, but there

918
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 3: is no race with me. Yeah, everybody gets it. I

919
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 3: destroyed black people because I'm glad I destroyed what And

920
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 3: when I say destroy, I make you see it for

921
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 3: what it is and then make you laugh at it

922
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 3: because it's not that serious.

923
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,479
Speaker 1: Yes, and it just puts everybody at ease.

924
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 3: And just every Monday, and I'm telling we have the

925
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 3: best you should come out, we have the best time,

926
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: because that's.

927
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: What I want to do.

928
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 3: Every The world is so tight and so disgrunted, and

929
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,280
Speaker 3: racism ain't going nowhere. Politics is crazy. We have survived coronavirus.

930
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 3: This is the forty seventh day of twenty twenty three,

931
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 3: and we have had sixty eight mass shootings. Wow, you

932
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 3: don't know what's going to happen twenty minutes from now.

933
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: So live your life and have a great time living.

934
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 3: It ain't gonna always be peaches and cream, but it

935
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 3: don't take it so serious.

936
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 2: Do you feel like you've arrived?

937
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: No? Absolutely not.

938
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 2: Was there a point in your career where you're like, okay,

939
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: this is it?

940
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 3: Like I'm stable in twenty nineteen and then the pandemic

941
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 3: hit twenty nineteen. My career was flourishing like a brand

942
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 3: new flower in spring. And then I did the Breakfast Club,

943
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 3: which I absolutely love, and a lot of my community

944
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 3: felt like I didn't speak on their behalf. I didn't

945
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 3: because here's the killer right here. Because I'm a part

946
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 3: of the lgbt Q I A plus community does not

947
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 3: mean that because I got a little shine that I'm

948
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 3: supposed to be the spokesperson of the community. That was

949
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 3: never something that I wanted. That was never an objective

950
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,959
Speaker 3: that And if you listen to me on the Breakfast Club,

951
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 3: which brought me on as a comedian, they never brought

952
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 3: me on because I was trans. They never brought me

953
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 3: on because I was black or dead. They brought me

954
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 3: on because I was a comedian. I could explicitly said three, four, five,

955
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 3: twelve times, I represent flame Unroe.

956
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: I'm speaking for me, okay.

957
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: So on that interview, that was the thing that was

958
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 2: like the.

959
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 3: That was the turning point that made them feel like,

960
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 3: I'm not really a trans person or I'm not a

961
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 3: trans woman.

962
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: I'm this.

963
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 3: Whatever your opinion is of you never has any re

964
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 3: infection on me because what you're saying about me don't

965
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 3: don't represent me.

966
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 2: Well, the trans community has the not the trans community.

967
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 2: The LGBTQ community has so much power. Were you a

968
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 2: little bit intimidated when there was a backlash? Were you

969
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: a little you know they intimidated or nervous because I

970
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 2: feel like they have so much power that like getting

971
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 2: the wrath from them can be very scary.

972
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: Well, I have.

973
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 3: I've faced the raft since maybe September of last year.

974
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 3: I probably lost two hundred thousand dollars in work because

975
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 3: of who I am and how I speak.

976
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 2: And that's crazy, because you're a part of their community

977
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: and that you still you can still face some level

978
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 2: of punishment.

979
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 3: Nothing that I survive the eighties, the nineties and the

980
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 3: two thousands.

981
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 1: That ain't gonna break me, Okay.

982
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 3: And I see women and I know what a woman

983
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 3: is to me, and I know what a woman is

984
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 3: to this world, which is Mother Earth and every trans

985
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 3: woman and trans man and lgbt Q I a plus

986
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 3: person came through.

987
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 1: A woman, a woman.

988
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 3: And that's not to say that however you feel you

989
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 3: represent you, that you don't represent you.

990
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: But we came through a woman. Yeah. I'm not a female,

991
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 1: I will never be a female. I'm a female impersonator

992
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: and a very good way.

993
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 2: You're still only twenty minutes and that's why you always

994
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 2: say that he she we.

995
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 3: That's why I say he she we because you know,

996
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 3: and there's so many new terminologies with the non binary

997
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 3: and you know, and I'm still learning, and I'm a

998
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 3: part of the community, but I am a dinosaur in

999
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 3: some aspect because I'm still learning. Because every other week

1000
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 3: it's a goddamn new alphabet latitude, so I'm still learning.

1001
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: I thought it was twenty six y'all. Oh my god, do.

1002
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 2: You feel obligated to keep up with the with the

1003
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 2: the new lango.

1004
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 3: I feel like I have a responsibility that I need

1005
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 3: to learn it in case I'm ever speaking with some

1006
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 3: other people. Is that they're dialect That does not mean

1007
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 3: that I have to use the language that they use.

1008
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 3: I just need to be able to say that I

1009
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 3: understand what you're saying to me. Because all the women

1010
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 3: that I know, biological women do not like the term

1011
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 3: cis woman, so I don't use cis woman exactly.

1012
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 2: But okay, let's try your dish. Is it ready?

1013
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: It's pretty much ready? You got some rice?

1014
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 2: I have rice?

1015
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: Okay, y'all, so we got some?

1016
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 2: Do we put the rice in your dish or do

1017
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 2: we put it on your plate?

1018
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna put it and you put this over

1019
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: top of.

1020
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 2: The rice, okay, and then I'm gonna put some rice

1021
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: on your plate. So in the crash, so you were

1022
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 2: you felt like you were doing well before the crash, Yeah,

1023
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: and then the pandemic.

1024
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 3: Happening, and the pandemic happened, but then I heeart that.

1025
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 3: So what people don't know is they think that me

1026
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 3: and Charlomagne had this great friendship that happen. Charlemagne hired

1027
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 3: me the very first time I did the Breakfast Club.

1028
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 3: He said, you're coming to work for me, he told

1029
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 3: me on that day.

1030
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: Okay, I say, you ain't got no doubt.

1031
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 3: You know which power you got? You ain't got nothing,

1032
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 3: Lord behold. Charlie May signed fourteen podcasts and self included

1033
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 3: two years ago to the Black Effect Network. He was

1034
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 3: creating something and you know, and on that excuse me,

1035
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 3: everybody wanted me to give Charlamagne a hard time with

1036
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 3: blame he is and he did. When you're going to

1037
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 3: show tear him up. Charlemagne and Enby were so pleasant

1038
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 3: to me and so wonderful to me and respectful. You know,

1039
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 3: even when I went on that time when Boosie was

1040
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 3: on there a little boosy. He gets a bad rap

1041
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 3: from the community. His manager is openly gay, and I

1042
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 3: ain't talking about just regular gay. He the gay with

1043
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 3: the cape and the s and the ryaningstones and the feathers.

1044
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: That kind of gay. Good.

1045
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: I want a piece of bacon, just just so I

1046
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 2: can say, I have a piece of bacon, A plate

1047
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: of your pre cooked my pre cooked appleby it sounds

1048
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 2: very Is there a reason why it has to be

1049
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 2: apple work?

1050
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: Oh? I love apple baker apple. We just got a

1051
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: flavor to it.

1052
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 3: Oh and you know who has the best apple bakon

1053
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 3: gelston It costs three hundred dollars a pack.

1054
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god. You know Gelston's is the high end store.

1055
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: I've only shot that Gelston's. Uh, when when there's it's

1056
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 2: that moment.

1057
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: Let me.

1058
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 3: I buy an E B T car from a girl

1059
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 3: sometimes and I go to Gelston's with eb T car

1060
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 3: and get the strip and crab and lobster and get

1061
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 3: to the counter and she said hi, cash check, And

1062
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 3: I say eb T real loud, so everybody look at me.

1063
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: You know what's so funny? You wouldn't even think that

1064
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 2: about E B T and Gelston's.

1065
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: They take everybody take ebt baby.

1066
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what. When I was younger, I thought

1067
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 2: you couldn't get fast food with food stamps. But then

1068
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 2: now it's like, you can get fast food with food stands.

1069
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: This show one PG. I'll tell you what else you

1070
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: can give a food stamp.

1071
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 2: Hold, it's not what can you get?

1072
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: It was a joke. Okay, you taste it?

1073
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: I taste it. It's you know what. I just want

1074
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: to try the Oprah.

1075
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 3: Try to it's not gonna even have a you can

1076
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 3: do it. You can do it, you can do it.

1077
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: I believe in you.

1078
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 2: Oh god, I still hey, Okra a taste it's Slimmy.

1079
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't do that?

1080
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: Means are you married?

1081
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well about to be divorced?

1082
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 3: Is it because you didn't like Slimmy?

1083
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 2: I got a good comeback for world. No, it's because

1084
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: too many girls like Slimmy.

1085
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: Okay that come on, I got it all the way.

1086
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: If y'all missed that, y'all too young? Grow up?

1087
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. No, but you know what

1088
00:46:59,360 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 2: I'm not.

1089
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 1: I don't like what you know, like Oprah.

1090
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 2: I don't like what anything? What?

1091
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 3: What?

1092
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? Like that texture? So maybe that could inside joke inside,

1093
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 2: I know.

1094
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 3: Exactly what but that the player up under this wing

1095
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 3: is like, you ain't no fun.

1096
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 1: I would have divorced you. You don't like what?

1097
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 2: No, let me tell you.

1098
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: You hear me talk about Okra, that's what I was talking.

1099
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 2: Let me just tell you so I can just save

1100
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 2: my own reputation. And god, God, please hopefully my family

1101
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 2: doesn't listen to this episode. But let me tell you something. Okay,

1102
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 2: he married me, so I clearly learned how to do

1103
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,240
Speaker 2: the job that I had to do to do it. Okay,

1104
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 2: so I do I accommodated. Okay, it sounds like a task.

1105
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: I need you to enjoy it. Do you know what?

1106
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: I need you to smile.

1107
00:47:54,880 --> 00:48:00,240
Speaker 3: Like it's the last supper.

1108
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 2: Look, when we got off the cameras off, I'm I'm

1109
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 2: gonna show her how I was getting down. Okay, because

1110
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: she will be impressed with me.

1111
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 3: Okay, she said she, but you show me the right way.

1112
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 3: This rig might slide back a little bit, and oh

1113
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,240
Speaker 3: my god, let me stop my photi.

1114
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: So you know I did Coming View first.

1115
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 3: I was the first trans person ever to be on

1116
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 3: Coming View in two thousand and four, where Ricky Smiley.

1117
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 2: Was that had to have been a pivotal moment where

1118
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 2: it was.

1119
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 3: But but hear me when I tell you, Chris Spencer

1120
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 3: was the one who got me on Coming View. Chrispincer

1121
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 3: picked up the phone, made a phone call and got

1122
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 3: me with Joyce Coleman and I was on Common View.

1123
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 3: But they tried to market me as a female. They

1124
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 3: were petrified to market me as a trans in two

1125
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 3: thousand and four. This is how far we have come

1126
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 3: because if they marketed me as a trans to controversy

1127
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 3: along with.

1128
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: You know, but all the world wasn't ready, Oh my god,

1129
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 1: the world.

1130
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 2: But when they see it, they wouldn't be able to tell.

1131
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 3: They could tell, but they really did not want to

1132
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 3: say the words.

1133
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: This is and this is why I'm saying.

1134
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 3: We have moved from a space where they wouldn't say

1135
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 3: trans woman and transman is self explanatory.

1136
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 2: But can I ask is do you don't think? Well,

1137
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 2: you would? You would only be the one to know.

1138
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 2: So is it more proper to say trans woman or

1139
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 2: just say.

1140
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: She see I like both? Okay, there was a time, Okay,

1141
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: you know where he is not? Okay?

1142
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 3: If if a trans girl's presentation is female, it is

1143
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 3: disrespectful to call her he. We do that out of

1144
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 3: shade when we argue with each other, but it really

1145
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 3: is disrespectful.

1146
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: And some of their play that yeah.

1147
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure a lot of people are gonna didn't

1148
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 2: know that.

1149
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 3: Yeah with me because I'm so comfortable who I am

1150
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 3: and my my pronoun you know, say it's he she

1151
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 3: weak again. I'm a comedian, so every I make light

1152
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 3: and fun pretty much of almost everything.

1153
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: By the way, this is delicious. I just moved all

1154
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: the oak run to the side.

1155
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 3: I wish I had my other seasons, but I'm telling

1156
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 3: you that, you see, I'm telling you make the same

1157
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 3: baby you get each other.

1158
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 2: Look at all that Oprah everybody, how much I hate Oprah,

1159
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 2: I will never there just nothing, nothing's making.

1160
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: And I'm not going to force that on you either.

1161
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,439
Speaker 1: I want you to hear what I was saying, literally

1162
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: what I say.

1163
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 3: I'm not going to force that on you, just like

1164
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 3: I don't force me on people. I earned when I

1165
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 3: started in comedy in ninety seven ninety eight. I could

1166
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 3: be in the green room with a room for the

1167
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 3: comedians and I was invisible. They wouldn't talk to me,

1168
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 3: They wouldn't speak to me. They wouldn't even make eye

1169
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 3: contact with me. I earned their respect because I kept coming.

1170
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 3: They weren't going to chase me away. I was a

1171
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 3: tough not to crack, and I kept learning and getting

1172
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 3: on stage, and every now and again I would break

1173
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 3: through show, kept teeny show and half, and every now

1174
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 3: and again a comic come and say good job.

1175
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: Like sometimes it was on the low on a choir.

1176
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 3: But it let me know I was doing I was

1177
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 3: supposed to do. When they saw that I wasn't going anywhere.

1178
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 3: And I've been in the game twenty years now, a

1179
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 3: one male comic and said, ooh, Flame tried to get

1180
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 3: with me. Flamee tried. That was never the reputation I wanted.

1181
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 3: That was never what I didn't come in here for that.

1182
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 3: I came here to do this job. I wanted to

1183
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 3: play a y'all spint. I didn't want to play in

1184
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 3: just the LGBT party. It's too limided. I wanted to

1185
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 3: be a world known comedian, not just a gay comedian.

1186
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 2: What made Charlotte bring you on the Breakfast Club?

1187
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 3: Because I had did they ready with Tiffany House and

1188
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 3: she had did the show. And that's why I said

1189
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 3: when he brought me on. He didn't bring me on

1190
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 3: as a trans person. He brought me on as a

1191
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 3: comedian because we had taped they ready, and so my

1192
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 3: community got upset with me because they wanted me to

1193
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 3: be the you know, everybody gets a little shot. No,

1194
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 3: that was not what I didn't going there to tell

1195
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 3: him down. I love my sister, but I'm not gonna

1196
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 3: fight for bullshit. If it's bullshit, I'm not gonna I'm

1197
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 3: not gonna stand up for that. But if it's something real,

1198
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 3: like you know what's real to me? Like right now,

1199
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 3: we all in the tizzy over pronouns and bathroom rights. Meanwhile,

1200
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 3: the GOP is forcing a don't say gay bill and

1201
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 3: no more drag, which is how I made my living

1202
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 3: for a very long time, and a lot of my sisters,

1203
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 3: including the girls from RuPaul's Drag Race, we make our

1204
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 3: living off drag shows. Y'all got George Santez, who is

1205
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 3: openly gay and used to do drag shows in Santa Bill,

1206
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 3: to say don't say gay and no on drag shows,

1207
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 3: and we ain't said.

1208
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: Have you heard the community in an uproar about George Santos.

1209
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 2: No, I don't say gay, That what does that mean

1210
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 2: you can't say the word.

1211
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 3: Well, according to Ron DeSantis in Florida, he's trying to

1212
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 3: He has adopted the bill where they don't want teach

1213
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 3: the little kids to be able to come to If

1214
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 3: you were my teacher and I couldn't talk to my

1215
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 3: mom that I was having feelings for little boys, but

1216
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 3: you made me feel safe, So I came and talked

1217
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 3: to you.

1218
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: And you can go to jail.

1219
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 3: You can lose your job because you're not supposed to

1220
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 3: have those conversations with these So now these kids have

1221
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 3: nobody to turn to, nobody to talk to. It's not safe.

1222
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 3: But we're not in an uproar about that. We're too

1223
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 3: busy worried about things that are just so insignificant. I

1224
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 3: don't fight over insignificant. It needs to mean something, and

1225
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 3: that means something to me.

1226
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 2: If you had advice to give to someone that's coming

1227
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 2: up in the same lane as you, what advice would

1228
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 2: you get?

1229
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 3: Make great relationships and get as much stage time experience

1230
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 3: as you can because every room is different, every audience

1231
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 3: is different, and learn your audience. There is a responsibility

1232
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 3: on comedians to learn their audience.

1233
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 1: There is a lot of comedians.

1234
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 3: I ain't changing myself for nobody, Then you're not growing

1235
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 3: as a comic because I'm not going to go into

1236
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 3: a room full of Trumpsters doing my trump stuff knowing

1237
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 3: that I'm offending these people on purpose. Now I will

1238
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 3: change it from talking about his politics to talking about

1239
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 3: his shape or his hair to make it.

1240
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: Funny to them.

1241
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 3: There is a responsibility, and a lot of times I

1242
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 3: think that some of these comics that don't change things

1243
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 3: happen that shouldn't happen because you have to adapt, adapt

1244
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 3: to the room that you're in.

1245
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 2: Okay, And then I just have just a couple more

1246
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 2: questions because we definitely went over the come on, what

1247
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 2: was the hardest hurdle you think you had to overcome,

1248
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 2: either personally or professionally in your entire lifetime.

1249
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: Or broken heart?

1250
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 3: It's the hardest thing I've ever heard that would come

1251
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 3: because people always didn't like me or I didn't like him.

1252
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: I was always good with that too.

1253
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 2: But why do you say broken heart? Did it affect

1254
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 2: you professionally?

1255
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, it made me.

1256
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 3: It made me step away from the stage for a while,

1257
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 3: because I'm telling my baby, Mama had me some displaced

1258
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,439
Speaker 3: She had me crazy as a role is and long

1259
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 3: did it last? For seven years? But I've had my

1260
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 3: heart broken by a woman and a man when I

1261
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 3: went to prison. When I got caught, I had a boyfriend.

1262
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 3: He put me in prison.

1263
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: I was slick. I wouldn't go get caught. He turned me.

1264
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 1: He turned me. He was angry.

1265
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 3: Riched Yeah, bitch, ass nigga.

1266
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: Can I say that.

1267
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 2: I assume you broke up on him when he snitched?

1268
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 3: Well, I see that. That's show you how damb I was.

1269
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 3: I got out of prison and went right back to him.

1270
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,240
Speaker 3: But Menjo only did forty eight days.

1271
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,280
Speaker 1: But I went right back to him, Okay.

1272
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 3: And and what happened was I was blind because I

1273
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 3: was in it. But after going through the prison humiliation

1274
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 3: because I never had anything bad happened to me in prison,

1275
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 3: Thank you Jesus. I was so protected because my uncles

1276
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 3: were all stones on the West Side. Everybody knew the

1277
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,439
Speaker 3: Gifts and family. Everybody knew us, so they knew who

1278
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 3: I was, so nobody was gonna bother me.

1279
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: I mean not. I was never worried about that part.

1280
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: But he was just he got drugs and it just

1281
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: hurt me. I don't never want to I'm afraid of

1282
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: love because of that.

1283
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 2: So what did like you did? Seven years of heartbreak?

1284
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 2: So what got you out of it? Was it just time?

1285
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 3: Or was it like she kept she left? You know,

1286
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 3: she kept leaving. What's the songbody ojy? She says, your

1287
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 3: body's here with me, but your man is on the

1288
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 3: other side of town.

1289
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 1: She stayed on the other side of town. Her body

1290
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: was physically there, but she wasn't there. And she was young.

1291
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: She didn't want to be a mom. She wanted to.

1292
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 3: I think she wanted to be a mother for her mother,

1293
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 3: but she really didn't want to be a mommy.

1294
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: If you understand what that her mama wanted her.

1295
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,919
Speaker 3: To prove that she was because she was an open legs,

1296
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 3: looked like a little boy, and her mom wanted her

1297
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 3: to be girl grandmama. So I think she did that

1298
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 3: for her mom. I just happened to be the collateral damage.

1299
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 1: Thank god. I wanted my children though.

1300
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, And then you got back to work.

1301
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 1: I had to heal.

1302
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 2: How did how did you heal and get back in

1303
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 2: the race?

1304
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,439
Speaker 1: That was the that was the hardest part.

1305
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 3: I have. My oldest daughter's name is easy. My children

1306
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 3: name is JaMarcus, Ezzy and Isaiah. Isabella Easy looks exactly

1307
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 3: like her mother. And I'm talking about from day one.

1308
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 3: So do you know how hard it was to men

1309
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 3: your broken heart while still functioning. I had a three

1310
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 3: year old, a three month old, and a three and

1311
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 3: a half year old, all at the same time by

1312
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 3: myself with a broken heart in southern California, own food stamps.

1313
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 3: We couldn't get on Section eight because they said I

1314
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 3: made too much money struggling, couldn't find no work because

1315
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 3: I couldn't get my man right. But I couldn't get

1316
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Speaker 3: in a dark hole depressed because I had a bottle

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Speaker 3: to fix. I had daycare, I had a pampa to change,

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Speaker 3: I had to do laundry.

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Speaker 1: God kept me busy so I wouldn't sit and.

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Speaker 3: Wallow in my pain, even though there was times when

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Speaker 3: I went to that bathroom it had meltdown because I

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Speaker 3: didn't have no help. I couldn't leave my kids on

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Speaker 3: my mom. Yeah, you know my mom had She was

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Speaker 3: she was not nice.

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Speaker 2: So how are you working and supporting everything?

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00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 3: I was always a master of what I needed to do.

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00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 3: I was always a great hustler. I was always a

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00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 3: good hustler. You know, I knew how to push the

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Speaker 3: almost illegal boundaries to make sure that my children could

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00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 3: And when we were broke, when I had no money

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00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 3: and I couldn't get no work because I was ostracized.

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00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 3: After I left Hamburger, Mareas and Long Beach in southern California,

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Speaker 3: where I couldn't get no work in the drag shows,

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00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 3: I sharpened up my gucca skills. I knew how to

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Speaker 3: go to the grocery store and take a pack of

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Speaker 3: meat and take the censer off and go to the

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Speaker 3: freezer and stick it down my girdle to get out.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I had to feed money.

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Speaker 2: I take it. Your kids know about stash?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, yes we eat we got money, We

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00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: still eat it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I love that you got personal.

1343
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 3: Like, well, you know what, why sugar coat the true

1344
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 3: I did what I had to do to take care

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00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 3: of my family. So when when they would take ostracize

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00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 3: me and say like they're doing now this whole cancel

1347
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 3: culture thing, you are starving some possibly starving somebody's kid. Yeah,

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00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 3: you know you you mad at this person because of

1349
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 3: a statement they said, like you don't have an opinion,

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00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 3: like you haven't said some things that could offend somebody

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00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 3: or have benefits or still offending somebody, and you want

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00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 3: to stop somebody because I hurt your feelings. You get

1353
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 3: over feelings, you don't get over AR fifteens. Yes, you

1354
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 3: know this country is so backwards and baffling to me.

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00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 3: We want to take away books that take away history,

1356
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 3: but we don't want to We don't want to stop

1357
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 3: selling AR fifteens. That's making history because air fifteen gonna

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00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 3: make you his three.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you I maybe maybe I'm twisted.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm against. I'm one hundred percent against cancel culture.

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Speaker 2: My husband's a comedian, my little brother is a comedian,

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Speaker 2: and I can only imagine, like, you know, the that

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00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 2: area where you know comedy is supposed to laugh at

1364
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 2: my pain, right, and it's just you know, it's now

1365
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 2: in an area where you know, now you have to

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00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 2: be considerate of the audience's feelings, which usually they.

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00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 3: Want you to walk around on Asia's I can't even

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00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 3: balance their regular shoes. I damn sure they're gonna walk

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Speaker 3: around the way as you're gonna get it. You're just

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00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 3: gonna get it. And here it is. It's not gonna.

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Speaker 2: Stop me, but you're not you're not afraid of cancel culture.

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Speaker 3: I am not afraid of anything but Jesus, that's it.

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Speaker 3: They have stopped a lot of work for me. But

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Speaker 3: it's just like you stop work for me. I came

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00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 3: and Sammy for a third year for Laugh and Learn.

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00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 3: The bookings keep coming in from the comedy clubs because

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00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 3: the mouth don't stop.

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Speaker 1: And the talent is here.

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00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 3: What you're gonna silence me? No, that ain't gonna silence me.

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00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 3: Still in my we ignite, but that ain't gonna silence me?

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01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 2: All right? Well, where can everybody catch up with you

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01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 2: and keep up with you?

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01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: Oh?

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01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 3: You can follow me on Instagram at Monroe Flame, on

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01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 3: Twitter at Flame Monroe, on YouTube at Flame Monroe, on

1386
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 3: TikTok at Flame Monroe one two five, and on Facebook

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01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 3: at Marcus Flame Monroe Parker. And you can go to

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01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 3: my bio on Instagram to see where my books are

1389
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 3: coming up. Because I'm coming to younkers. I'm coming to pleasanton.

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Speaker 3: But every Monday you can see me at the Hollywood

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Speaker 3: Laugh Factor on Sunset blahlah blah. We have the best

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01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 3: best adult fund for free voices. Come and hang out

1393
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 3: with me. There's no censor and You're going to be

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01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 3: thoroughly entertained.

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01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 1: And this is my nice dress. This is my Christian

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01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: dress Monday.

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Speaker 3: And.

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01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 2: Can bitch do what we do?

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me see you pop?

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01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 2: Oh you do it right? Okay, I'm not there yet.

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01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, okay.

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01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 3: When your daughter's like getting on your nerves screaming hop

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01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 3: that fan.

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01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 2: I guarantee you. Once my daughter sees me do this,

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01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 2: that's the only thing she's gonna be doing next. Thank

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Speaker 2: you guys for tuning in to another episode of Eating

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01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 2: While Broke. The disc soccotash was definitely something you can

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01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 2: make at home, easy, affordable, convenient. You know, in my

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01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 2: personal opinion, skip the okra up please peace out.

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Speaker 5: You better keep it wet.

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Speaker 2: For more Eating While Broke from iHeartRadio and The Black Effect,

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Speaker 2: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen

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Speaker 2: to your favorite shows.