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Speaker 2: top of your screen. Speaking of the star himself, mister Football,

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Speaker 2: my partner, Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Bucky, how are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm good Andy, what's going on? Are you on?

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Speaker 3: Are you cold? Are you cold where you are right now?

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Speaker 3: Are you cold?

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Speaker 5: I am not cold because I'm back in La. So

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Speaker 5: I'm good.

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Speaker 2: I am good, lucky, lucky, lucky, all right. I mean

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Speaker 2: I got in the car yesterday. Well, first I had

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Speaker 2: to buy a new battery. This week, A battery died

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Speaker 2: in the car. That's number one. But number two. I

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Speaker 2: had never known that the temperature gauge can go in

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Speaker 2: engine yesterday. It's unbelievable. I mean, I don't remember it

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Speaker 2: ever being in this gold and I hardly ever ever

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Speaker 2: wear gloves. How to wear gloves yesterday? Because it's a

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Speaker 2: in the car with gloves. But I wore gloves yesterday.

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Speaker 2: So they say today maybe the last day of the

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Speaker 2: chill or the big chill. But you're lucky you're in La.

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Speaker 3: There we go, all right? Yeah, it's crazy. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I know how you play football and a weather like that,

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Speaker 2: I just don't know. But I will I have an

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Speaker 2: admission to make okay, you know. Jeffrey Epstein's back in

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Speaker 2: the news. Again with the Epstein papers and all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein went to my high school, all right. I

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Speaker 2: did not graduate in the same No, I did not

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Speaker 2: graduate in the same class as Jeffrey Epstein. He went

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Speaker 2: to Lafayete High School in Brooklyn, New York, where I

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Speaker 2: went to And I am not in the Epstein files,

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Speaker 2: nor have I ever visited Epstein Isle Island. So we're

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Speaker 2: gonna move on, Okay, just to want to clear that,

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Speaker 2: just in case anybody found out that I went to

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Speaker 2: the same high school as Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 3: I had no idea that he did until later on.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So just just thank you, thank you very much,

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Speaker 2: all right, all right, now, yeah.

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Speaker 5: I was worried because when you did that, I was like, oh,

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Speaker 5: we're starting off the top of the hour with an

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Speaker 5: ad mission. Okay, like we're going all right, let me

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Speaker 5: get my mind wrapped around Indian mission.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what, there's a possibility that I could

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Speaker 2: be in his files. I mean, you don't know who's

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Speaker 2: in there, but you know, yes, I don't know. I

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Speaker 2: never met him, but I did know he went to

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Speaker 2: my high school. Okay, but I did mention also on

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Speaker 2: the top of the houst that it's only a plaque

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Speaker 2: and just give me one minute bucket to explain.

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Speaker 3: You could rip it apart if you want to.

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Speaker 2: Okay, these places are in remote spots like Canton, Ohio, Cooperstown,

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Speaker 2: New York, and Springfield, Massachusetts. I'm talking about the Halls

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Speaker 2: of Fame for football, baseball, and basketball respectively. The football

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Speaker 2: one is where Bill Belichick did not enter this week,

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Speaker 2: and I'm going to get to that in a minute, Okay.

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Speaker 2: But the fact that he did not enter the hall

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Speaker 2: did not get the votes for it, and the hall

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Speaker 2: is just a remote museum and will never diminish his accomplishments.

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Speaker 3: As an NFL coach. Do you will agree?

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's a building, it's a museum, Okay, in a

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Speaker 3: People go there. Let's face it. I mean in the

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Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of people are going to Canton,

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Speaker 2: Bill Belichick is not in there. He eventually will be

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Speaker 2: So the fact that he's not in does not diminish

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Speaker 2: the fact that he's probably, if not the best right

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I don't think. I don't think you can

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Speaker 5: I think it's one of those things that everyone knows

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Speaker 5: I think it's kind of crazy that he didn't get

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Speaker 5: people hold Tom Brady to that standard when he's up

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Speaker 5: for induction, because if we think about their careers, they're

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Speaker 5: obviously synonymous with six Super Bowls that they want together.

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Speaker 5: If you're gonna punish him and then you have deflate

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Speaker 5: Gate hobbing around Tom Brady, does Tom Brady also have

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Speaker 5: to serve a one year penalty?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 2: I just think that it's a disgrace. It really is

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Speaker 2: a disgrace that he didn't get in there. But there's

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Speaker 2: He was the first to publicly acknowledge that he did

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Speaker 2: not cast a vote for Bill Belichick, and he wrote

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Speaker 2: that his decision had nothing to do with spygate, or

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Speaker 2: that he gave his maximum allotment of votes to older

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Speaker 2: players who have been long deserving of induction, running back

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Speaker 3: Okay, and I.

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Speaker 2: Believe that maybe we'll eventually I'll get in. I've always

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Speaker 2: if you don't get into the Hall of Fame the

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Speaker 2: better with age. You know, you don't get in better

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Speaker 2: Kenny Anderson's knocking on the door saw him play two

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Speaker 3: Great player he really was.

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Speaker 2: But how many times are you gonna knock on that

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Speaker 3: That's the point.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're not worthy the first time, you're

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Speaker 3: You just don't get any better. I don't understand that.

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Speaker 2: I think I'd rather see them, but take a large

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Speaker 3: K fifteen the first shot and that's it.

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Speaker 2: Instead of having these people waiting and waiting and waiting

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Speaker 2: Kannie Anderson's wedding. And then I had the ridiculous Veterans

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Speaker 2: Bill Mazeroski gets in a two fifty lifetime hitter at

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Speaker 2: the Veterans Committee is a good old boys system. That's

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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, I mean the system is going to

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Speaker 5: be interesting when it comes to all the Hall of Fames.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, we have the Hall of Fames, Baseball Hall of

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Speaker 5: required just because the scandal that's surrounded them. But all

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Speaker 5: whether it's the Baseball Hall of Fame, they always talked

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Speaker 5: about the players inducted should be the ones that you

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Speaker 5: can't write the history of the respective sport.

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Speaker 4: Without their contributions.

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Speaker 5: And if that is the case, scandal or not, you

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Speaker 5: can't keep some of those people out, some of those

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Speaker 4: And it'll be interesting with Belichick.

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Speaker 5: It continued to be interesting with the baseball players that

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Speaker 4: But yeah, it's a lot of power the voters have.

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Speaker 4: The voters have a lot of power.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, and maybe they should do another check on

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Speaker 2: who basically gets to vote. Really, I mean, it's got

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Speaker 2: to be a little more transparent. I don't know why

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Speaker 3: I want to know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the one guy from Kansas City to Kansas

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Speaker 2: to come out and say, look, I didn't vote for him. Fine,

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Speaker 2: I want to know who else didn't vote for him?

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Speaker 2: Then we're going to do Bill pollion right now. He

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Speaker 2: a player, most likely ELC Green With Then he came

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Speaker 2: ago saying he did vote for Belichick. Let me just

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Speaker 2: say this, if you're ninety five percent certain you voted

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Speaker 2: for him or not, Okay, if you can't remember.

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Speaker 3: Then why the hell are you even voting.

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Speaker 2: If you can't remember who you voted for, you shouldn't

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Speaker 2: be allowed to vote. You're senile. There's something wrong with

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Speaker 2: your bolly. And really you didn't like Belichick from the

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Speaker 2: get though. That's the problem there. It's it's vengeance, it's pettiness.

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Speaker 2: That's what it was.

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Speaker 5: Maybe, so I will say, you know who you vote for,

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Speaker 5: and so if you didn't, just stand on it.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's what everyone has to do. Just

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Speaker 5: If if you didn't vote for him, have the courage

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Speaker 5: to say, nah, I didn't didn't work out for him

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Speaker 5: this time in my estimation, and then just and then

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Speaker 5: just go from there. But the the hiding behind the

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Speaker 5: lack of transparency would would be an issue, you know,

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Speaker 5: and I think that's the main thing.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the deal, here's the situation. I think there's

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Speaker 2: two things with him. He's good friends of Robert Kraft,

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Speaker 2: and Kraft get in. So one thing with pulling either

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Speaker 2: he's lying and he did go against Belichick, and now

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Speaker 2: maybe he's covering his tracks so he doesn't like a fool,

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Speaker 2: and maybe he really cannot remember if he voted for

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Speaker 2: Belichick or not, but who knows. I mean, then he's senile.

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Speaker 2: That's the problem there. First of all, I don't understand

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Speaker 2: why owners are getting in. Okay, let's face it, Robert

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Speaker 2: Kraft wouldn't have got in if it wasn't for Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 2: Bill Belichick put that team on his back. Really think

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Speaker 2: about that. Why is Robert Kraft or any odor getting in?

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Speaker 2: I don't get that. Explain that to me. Why does

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Speaker 2: As you know, I think I sent you to text.

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Speaker 3: He says, I would not have voted for Belichick.

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Speaker 2: Nothing to do with cheating accusations or his reliance on

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Speaker 3: I don't know. But it's talk about character, okay. He says.

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Speaker 2: I really don't, But I don't think you should. Basically

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Speaker 3: This has nothing to do with me. Yeah, it was wrong.

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Speaker 5: There are no great coaches in the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 5: You think about the trip. I mean, like every coach

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Speaker 5: because it's not. It just simply does not happen. Ty

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Speaker 5: Law is in a Hall of Fame for the Patriot.

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Speaker 4: That we could talk about.

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Speaker 5: But you're judged by what you did on the field,

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Speaker 3: No doubt about that.

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Speaker 2: There are twenty nine NFL coaches have been enshrined since

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Speaker 6: Well, first of all, I think this tarnishes everything in

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Jimmy. He no, you could have said it

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Speaker 2: I mean really, because Belichick and this is what Jared

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Speaker 2: He's a columnist for the USA today. Belichick went from

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Speaker 2: a no brainer selection to a first ballot pariah. That's

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Speaker 2: really it's unbelievable. Really, I mean, who would have thought

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Speaker 2: I mean, really, Philip Rivers came back and played. I

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Speaker 2: It's so stupid. The credibility factor, not so much for

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Speaker 5: But that's nobody's business, right Who you date, who you're

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Speaker 4: Things like are we really going to legislate that?

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Speaker 5: It is about what accomplishments have you amassed between the lines.

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Speaker 5: That's what it comes down to, team accomplishment all those things.

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Speaker 5: And so if we're going to do that, we can't

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Speaker 4: We don't like in those things.

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Speaker 5: That is not your place to judge that his personal

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Speaker 2: I'm with you one thousand percent, I really, I mean.

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Speaker 2: twenty six, you know what. They failed spectacularly, and it

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Speaker 3: It is great.

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Speaker 2: It was okay when George Burns, Oh God, and Morgan

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Speaker 2: They just don't have the range. If they did have

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Speaker 3: May he rest in peace. Phil Peppy a good man

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Speaker 2: He was a president of the Baseball Writers and Phil

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's ugly.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you this later on, but keep

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Speaker 5: Just I was blown away because one it comes out

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Speaker 3: Talk about fake news, right, I thought it was fake news.

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Speaker 3: I don'ntbelieve it really is.

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Speaker 2: in the National Football League, I don't know why, Bucket Brooks,

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Speaker 2: you are not coaching in the National Football League? Is

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Speaker 2: that Is that something you aim to do one day?

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Speaker 5: No, I'm good. I'm good coaching high schootball. I'm perfectly yeah,

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Speaker 5: happy with that.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: But to coach annational footballer, to me, it's an honor,

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Speaker 2: it's a privilege, and only few get it and deserve.

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Speaker 2: There's only thirty two head coaching jobs. Yet some coaches

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Speaker 2: have turned their back on one team, and that team

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Speaker 2: is the Cleveland Browns. I'm shocked. Okay, why would you

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Speaker 2: turn it down? I don't understand that. I just don't understand.

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Speaker 2: There's only thirty two jobs. Is the first i've heard

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Speaker 2: that coaches are saying thanks but no thanks. I don't

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Speaker 2: want to coach your team. Is it ownership? I just

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Speaker 2: don't understand it. I mean, there's only about, you know,

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Speaker 2: thirty two jobs and you've got an opportunity, and you

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Speaker 2: would think that a coach would have enough confidence in

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Speaker 2: himself to say, you know what, I could turn that

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Speaker 2: franchise around. And there were five guys that turned it around.

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Speaker 2: Chris Shula, Mike McDaniel, Jesse Mint, the John Hobbar is

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Speaker 2: the name a few they turned it around. I think

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Speaker 2: you're a guy also in Jacksonville, Udinsky, he turned it

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Speaker 2: down too.

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Speaker 3: Thank you but no thanks.

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Speaker 5: I think a lot of times for coaches, if it's

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Speaker 5: the one time that you're going to have an opportunity

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Speaker 5: to be the head coach, you're going to have complete

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Speaker 5: alignment to be able to maximize your potential as a

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Speaker 5: head coach in this situation.

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Speaker 4: If you feel like.

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Speaker 5: The front office, the ownership group, they're not aligned with

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Speaker 5: your vision for how our team has to operate to

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Speaker 5: compete at a championship level, it's not going to work.

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Speaker 5: If you don't have trust with your higher ups or

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Speaker 5: your partners, it's never going to work. And there are

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Speaker 5: some people that have a mistrust of the ownership group

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Speaker 5: of the front office in those things. And so when

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Speaker 5: you have that that would lead them to walk away. Now,

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Speaker 5: I would say you better have options if you're going

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Speaker 5: to walk away from a head job, because the head

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Speaker 5: job right now, just from a personal standpoint, the head

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Speaker 5: jobs in the National Football League, I mean, you're talking

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Speaker 5: about anywhere from eight to twenty million dollars annually that

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Speaker 5: they're paying. And on a five year note, you're talking

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Speaker 5: a forty million dollars decision to walk away. And so

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Speaker 5: ideally I understand, but the fiscal reality, if you're offered

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Speaker 5: a head job you mistake because it's life changing money.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think you're crazy. Unless you have another option,

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Speaker 2: you're crazy you not to take the job. Now, someone

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Speaker 2: called me the other day and they said, you could

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Speaker 2: use this on the ever, but don't mension my name.

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Speaker 3: All right, I'm not going to mention his name.

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Speaker 2: He said that the people who are interviewed, and one

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Speaker 2: of them, one of them who basically was interviewed, this

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Speaker 2: is what he said to him. Chris Shuler was the guy.

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Speaker 2: He said that he was told by management. This team

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Speaker 2: is going to be run by analytics, all right, have

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Speaker 2: you heard anything like that? Well, how could a coach

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Speaker 2: come in there and say, well, you're going to be

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Speaker 2: our coach, but we're running this ball club on analytics.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't make any sense to me, but that's what

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Speaker 3: I was told.

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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, that's It's a very difficult thing to do.

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Speaker 5: Particularly it reminds me of a baseball culture. Go back

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Speaker 5: to Cleveland. Remember Paul Deepodest was a big executive in

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Speaker 5: their franchise for a long time. He was baseball executive

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Speaker 5: who's now back. I think he's with the Colorado Rockies now,

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Speaker 5: And they were trying to do things that rank counterculture

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Speaker 5: to what football people were doing for a long time

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Speaker 5: in the league. And while you're trying to find value

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Speaker 5: in the margins, right, you're trying to exploit the market inequities.

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Speaker 4: Football is a different.

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Speaker 5: Game and you have to have an inherent feel for

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Speaker 5: the game. Maybe we'll talk about Minnesota Vikings moving on

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Speaker 5: from their general manager, who came from an analytics background

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Speaker 5: that started in Cleveland, and.

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Speaker 4: Some of the things that he talked about with his lack.

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Speaker 5: Of experience in terms of ball and how it came

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Speaker 5: back to bite them with the Vikings and how they

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Speaker 5: moved on in Cleveland. You just have to understand what

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Speaker 5: you're stepping into and you have to be comfortable with

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Speaker 5: that environment when you take the job. But it's very

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Speaker 5: much like being a baseball manager now in today's new

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Speaker 5: baseball era, where you're work in hand in hand with

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Speaker 5: the general manager on lineup cards and these things, and

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Speaker 5: the different pitcher rotations to make it HP happen. Is

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Speaker 5: just a different hustle.

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Speaker 2: Don't you think management is going to say, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's not working. You know, they had the situation when

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Speaker 2: the franchise moved to Baltimore and they came back to

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Speaker 2: Cleveland in.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: Since nineteen ninety nine, the Cleveland Browns have had just

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Speaker 2: three playoff seasons twenty oh two, twenty twenty, and twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three, and obviously more losing records than winning records.

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Speaker 2: You got to believe that someone in the room, in

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Speaker 2: the thought process, in the meeting room say, you know,

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Speaker 2: we're not doing it right, something's wrong here. And obviously

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Speaker 2: the quarterback situation, well, how many quarterbacks have they had

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Speaker 2: since nineteen ninety nine? It's unbelievable, really, I mean, they

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Speaker 2: can't pick up the right guy, and I just don't

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Speaker 2: get it. But you got to believe something's got to change,

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Speaker 2: and they too stubborn to change. I don't think it's

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Speaker 2: the coach as much as you know, the philosophy of

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Speaker 2: the team. When I heard about the analytics situation, it

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Speaker 2: kind of makes sense because you hit it right on

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Speaker 2: the head. They did hire a baseball guy. Does it work?

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Speaker 2: Could you do analytics in football as you do in baseball?

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you can.

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Speaker 4: You can use it in parts, right, you can use

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Speaker 4: it in parts.

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Speaker 5: I mean, analytics has been a big part of the game,

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Speaker 5: and we've seen, like you heard me rant and rave

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Speaker 5: about some of the decisions that people are making to

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Speaker 5: go forward in the red zone as opposed to kicking

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Speaker 5: field goals and those things. A lot of that is

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Speaker 5: driven a by what coaches have embraced is the book.

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Speaker 5: When they're talking about analytics and how the book will

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Speaker 5: tell them when this is a ghost situation versus when

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Speaker 5: this is a play a safe situation in those things,

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Speaker 5: so you can use analytics like we've always used analytics.

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Speaker 4: We didn't call it that.

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Speaker 5: We talk about the measurables, the numbers. When it comes

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Speaker 5: to evaluating players, you look at what traditionally is played

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Speaker 5: in the National Football League and you base some of

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Speaker 5: those decisions off of that height, weight, speed, production, those

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Speaker 5: things that you can quantify, and you use that against

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Speaker 5: the next generation of players that are coming up. But

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Speaker 5: there is an instinct that is required to be successful

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Speaker 5: in this game as a player, as a coach, as

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Speaker 5: an executive. You have to have some onions, and sometimes

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Speaker 5: the onions will say you, ay, don't.

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Speaker 4: Follow the path, don't follow the book.

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Speaker 5: You just have a feel for the situation in the

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Speaker 5: moment based on what you know about your team and

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Speaker 5: those things. And so it's hard to be completely driven

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Speaker 5: by analytics without taking that into account.

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Speaker 2: You know, I thought the Cincinnati Bengals were baded in

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Speaker 2: the nineties, but in the two thousands, from twenty sixteen

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Speaker 2: to twenty seventeen, the Cleveland Browns with one and thirty one.

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Speaker 2: That's unbelievable. I mean, it's unreal. I don't think it's

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's the coaching. I can't be the players.

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Speaker 2: They got some star players on there. I add some

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Speaker 2: great running backs. I know, the quarterback situation has been

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Speaker 2: very questionable. But you can win with great defense, and

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Speaker 2: we see that in the playoffs. What's winning of these

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Speaker 2: playoff games not great quarterbacking, great defense, right I mean

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Speaker 2: Sam Donald, I mean, he's not a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Just don't turn the ball over. With a great defense,

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Speaker 3: you're going to win.

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Speaker 2: And the two teams in the Super Bowl right now,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think you could say they got

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Speaker 2: franchise quarterbacks. They're not playing great quarterback football. But defensively,

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Speaker 2: these two teams are tough. Like it's going to be

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Speaker 2: a low scoring Super Bowl game. I gotta believe be

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Speaker 2: something like maybe seventeen to ten, something like that. Fourteen ten,

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Speaker 2: that's what I think.

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Speaker 4: Maybe.

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Speaker 5: So now let's back up because quarterbacks and so the

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Speaker 5: label that you used are franchise quarterbacks. And I would

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Speaker 5: say there's a difference between a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 4: And an elite quarterback. Elite quarterbacks.

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Speaker 5: You're talking about the top five in a league where

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Speaker 5: you have thirty two starters, that would be the elite class.

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Speaker 5: And I would say that most people could agree that

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Speaker 5: the elite class of quarterbacks right now would be Pat Mahomes,

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Speaker 5: Josh Allen, they would include Lamar Jackson, Joe Burr would

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Speaker 5: be in that conversation. Those are the guys that are

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Speaker 5: universally celebrated as at least there's others that kind of

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Speaker 5: go and maybe make that list, But those are the.

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Speaker 4: Guys Sam Donald and Drake May.

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Speaker 5: Now some would say Drake May deserves to be in

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Speaker 5: that top five list based on how he played this year,

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Speaker 5: but we can debate that. So franchise quarterbacks are It's

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Speaker 5: clear in a parent that these guys are starters.

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Speaker 4: They have high end potential.

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Speaker 5: They have the ability to lead your team to a

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Speaker 5: Souper Bowl when they play at their best. I would

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Speaker 5: say that Drake May was drafted and certainly has proven that.

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Speaker 5: I would say Sam Donald is a Johnny come lately

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Speaker 5: to the party. But in the last two years he's

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Speaker 5: won fourteen regular season games each year, first for the

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Speaker 5: Minnesota Vikings, den with the Seattle Seahawks, so you have

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Speaker 5: to begin to put a little respect on his name.

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Speaker 5: And based on the way that he played in the

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Speaker 5: NFC Championship Game where he shredded the Rams through for

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Speaker 5: over three hundred yards, made play after play after play,

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Speaker 5: I think you have to view him differently than the

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Speaker 5: Sam Donald that came into the league for the New

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Speaker 5: York Jets.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I hear there there, but still in all I

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Speaker 2: mean defensively, that's that's the key. I'm surprised that it's

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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert in your mind. He's not franchised. But where

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Speaker 2: do you put Justin Herbert because you know, when the

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Speaker 2: draft came out, I think he was rated higher than

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow and they are in the same class.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, like now, there's one thing, like see,

657
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Speaker 5: the drafts is all before you get into the league.

658
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Speaker 5: It's another thing how you play in the league. And

659
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Speaker 5: Justin Herbert has been look phenomenal throughout the course of

660
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Speaker 5: the regular season. But we also have seen Justin Herbert

661
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Speaker 5: have some epic milkdowns in the postseason.

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Speaker 4: We can't unsee that. We can't excuse.

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Speaker 5: That when we hold think about the standards that we

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Speaker 5: hold Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson too in terms of

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Speaker 5: what we expect them to do in the postseason. Justin

666
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Speaker 5: Herbert hasn't even got to their level when it comes

667
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Speaker 5: to their postseason performances.

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Speaker 3: Jack has had his problems too in the postseason.

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Speaker 5: And we make sure that we criticize him over though

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Speaker 5: those failures and missteps. We got to give Justin Herbert

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Speaker 5: the same kind of response because he has not played

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Speaker 5: well in the postseason.

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Speaker 4: He hasn't and so we can regard.

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Speaker 5: Him as an elite talent, but he hasn't been an

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Speaker 5: elite quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I asked you this question. It's kind of

677
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Speaker 2: a toughye. But but you're the guy. You missed the football,

678
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Speaker 2: and you know you work for a pro team. You

679
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Speaker 2: played the game. If you were asked to turn around

680
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns, as they say, Bucky Brooks will hiring you.

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Speaker 3: You're the guy. Whatever you want to do, it's all yours.

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Speaker 2: How do you turn that franchise around? They're changing coaches again,

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Speaker 2: I mean, what do you do? They got a quarterback

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Speaker 2: right now who is on the fifth round of the draft,

685
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Speaker 2: Shadu Sanders, and now all of a sudden he's in

686
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Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl, which is unbelievable really, But that's another story.

687
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Speaker 3: But what do you do? How do you start? How

688
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Speaker 3: do you get him back on track?

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Speaker 5: Well, I think you have to first get everyone on

690
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Speaker 5: the same page. And the same page starts with the

691
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Speaker 5: team building process and the quarterback. What is interesting about

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Speaker 5: this situation with Todd Munkin taking over is Todd Munkin

693
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Speaker 5: had been a head coach before down in Southern miss.

694
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Speaker 5: His last season he went nine to five, but he

695
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Speaker 5: had an upside down record prior to that. Throughout Todd

696
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Speaker 5: Munkins's journey as a coach, the Shudur Sanders thing has

697
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Speaker 5: always been a thing. Offered him a scholarship when he

698
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Speaker 5: was at the University of Georgia, tried to draft him

699
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Speaker 5: last year when he's with the Baltimore Ravens. He played

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Speaker 5: a part and why they wanted him because he believes

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Speaker 5: in his talent. Now he has an opportunity to coach him.

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Speaker 5: You had to have a feeling that the Cleveland Browns

703
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Speaker 5: were going to have the discussion with whoever the prospective

704
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Speaker 5: head coach is, Hey, what do you think about our

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Speaker 5: quarterback situation?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 5: We may not be able to get a quarterback in

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Speaker 5: the twenty twenty six draft or off season to upgrade

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Speaker 5: what we currently have?

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Speaker 4: Would you take the job as is?

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Speaker 5: With the quarterbacks, Munkin had to tell them, Oh, I'm good,

712
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Speaker 5: I'll take this. I'll try and figure this out with

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Speaker 5: whoever our quarterback is in the room, whether Shadur Sanderws,

714
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Speaker 5: Deshaun Wasson, Dylan Gabriel, whomever. I'll take this and I'll

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Speaker 5: try and find a way to maximize it. Get to

716
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Speaker 5: twenty twenty seven and make another decision over the position.

717
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Speaker 5: So look, people can talk about whether he deserves to

718
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Speaker 5: be in the Pro Bowl or not. But here's what

719
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Speaker 5: I do know they're gonna have to say about Sri

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Speaker 5: Sanders from.

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Speaker 4: Here on out, Pro Bowler.

722
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Speaker 5: It never leaves your resume when you make the Pro Bowl,

723
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Speaker 5: it never leaves your resume. And just like they talk

724
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Speaker 5: about Kevin Stefanski being a two time Coach of the Year,

725
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Speaker 5: which can be debatable based on what we've seen on

726
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Speaker 5: the field, every time someone brings up Kevin Stefanski, what

727
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Speaker 5: do they say?

728
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Speaker 4: Two time NFL Coach of the Year.

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Speaker 5: So that label matters because it changes perception on what

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Speaker 5: we believe the person to possess when it comes to

731
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Speaker 5: their talent.

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Speaker 3: And they can't put hold of fame next to the

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Speaker 3: name of Bill Belichick. How do you like that?

734
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Speaker 4: No, they can't.

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Speaker 2: They can't get anyway, all right, Last, but not least,

736
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Speaker 2: I mentioned about, you know, coaching and jobs and people

737
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Speaker 2: turning down the Browns. One guy got a job at

738
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Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills. They got a new coach and they're

739
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Speaker 2: going forward with what they know rather than with someone new.

740
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Speaker 2: I think that's a good move. They kind of moved

741
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Speaker 2: up Joe Brady and he's now the head coach. He's

742
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Speaker 2: offensive coordinated before and I was the head coach.

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Speaker 3: Question.

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Speaker 2: I have one last question for Joe Brady. How does

745
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Speaker 2: she remove the negativity? I mean, the easy answer is

746
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: got to win, But how does remove all the fan

747
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 2: negativity the response to Sean McDermott's firing, because there was

748
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Speaker 2: like fifty thousand people put up a petition to get

749
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Speaker 2: Sean McDermott back, and I saw on social media last

750
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Speaker 2: week it must have been AI, I guess, because they

751
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Speaker 2: said that Sean mcdermot's coming back was a fake news situation.

752
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Speaker 2: But I mean, there was a big, big uproar in

753
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Speaker 2: Buffalo for Sean McDermott's firing.

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Speaker 5: Look, man, I think the thing about Joe Brady is

755
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 5: there feels to be like a little sleaziness to how

756
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Speaker 5: the whole thing went down with Brandon Bean taking over

757
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Speaker 5: for Sean McDermot, who had done a really good job.

758
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Speaker 5: They wanted the continuity of the system and the structure

759
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 5: that Sean McDermott had. They just want to remove the

760
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Speaker 5: top player, and my experience, it's hard for someone to

761
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Speaker 5: maintain something that's not so we would get a chance

762
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 5: to see how a young Joe Brady takes over and

763
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Speaker 5: helps his team go.

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Speaker 4: To another level. But I do know this.

765
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Speaker 5: You can be friendly with the quarterback, but you can't

766
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 5: be the best friend of the quarterback because you've got

767
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Speaker 5: to be able to hold him to the same standards

768
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Speaker 5: everybody else. That's gonna be the challenge for Joe Brady.

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Speaker 2: There we go, all right, He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman.

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Speaker 2: We are Fox Football Sunday at Fox Sports Radio. We've

771
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Speaker 2: got some heavy questions for the answer man.

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Speaker 3: We do.

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Speaker 8: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 8: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

775
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 8: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to

776
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Speaker 8: listen live.

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Speaker 2: All right away, we go Fox Football Sunday at Fox

778
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio. About eleven minutes before the top of the hour.

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Speaker 2: He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Firman. We live from the

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio studios. It is time for ask Bucky

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Speaker 2: Brandon Brandon Deutsch, happy birthday to you.

782
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Speaker 3: Are you ready to ask Bucky?

783
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Speaker 9: I am ready to ask buckyated Happy birthday?

784
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Speaker 3: Do you know buckets?

785
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Speaker 9: His birth story of the week? Bill Balichick Hall of

786
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Speaker 9: Fame snub Bucky. If you would to vote, would you

787
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Speaker 9: have voted for him?

788
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 5: One hundred percent? I think it's easy to vote for him.

789
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 5: I think just the lasting legacy. Two times super Bowl

790
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 5: champion as a defensive coordinator. You think about six time

791
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 5: Championship champion as a head coach, It's easy to say

792
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 5: that he is the greatest coach that we've seen. So, yes,

793
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Speaker 5: he goes in missteps in all he deserves to have

794
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Speaker 5: a gold jacket.

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Speaker 3: Anything else?

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Speaker 2: Any Okay, Okay, I'll gotta go talk about the weather.

797
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Speaker 2: Maybe the weather's the second biggest story around the country.

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Speaker 2: The coldest place, Bucket, you ever played in? And what

799
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Speaker 2: is worse? Playing in tremendous heat or very very cold weather?

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Speaker 3: What's worse?

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Speaker 5: Cold temperatures are harder just because it as an adverse

802
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 5: effect on your body, even more so than playing in heat.

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Speaker 5: I would say, haven't played in Buffalo and Green Bait.

804
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 5: Green Bay is the colder place. Buffalo is the snow

805
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Speaker 5: your place because of the Lake effect.

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Speaker 4: Snow's war in.

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Speaker 5: Buffalo, which means it's a little warmer. Green Bay is

808
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 5: downright miserable when it kicks in.

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Speaker 4: That is.

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Speaker 2: Do they have those heaters in Green Bay that melts

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Speaker 2: the snow on the field.

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00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, they they have the coils and all that other stuff.

813
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 4: And you can do all that.

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Speaker 5: You can put cayenne pepper and hot sauce and vasoline,

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Speaker 5: wrap your feet and bags and all that.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't matter. It is cold and.

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Speaker 5: It's very, very challenging to lock in and focus when

818
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 5: it's that cold.

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Speaker 4: That is why I believe it's weird.

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Speaker 5: But Minnesota should never have given up the outdoor advantage

821
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Speaker 5: because it is such an advantage when you can play

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Speaker 5: in cold weather.

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Speaker 9: The next question, I don't have headphones, so I didn't

824
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Speaker 9: hear Andy at first saying happy birthday.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 9: January thirty first Great baseball Birthday Jackie Robinson, Ernie Banks.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 9: Why was Sean McDermott fired as the Bill's head coach?

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Speaker 5: Guys, Oh, feelings over facts, The feelings that he couldn't

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Speaker 5: get them over the top. The facts will tell you

831
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Speaker 5: eight years on the job, seven years in the postseason.

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Speaker 5: Last six years they had ten plus wins. They dominated

833
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Speaker 5: the division. While he was there at the AFC East,

834
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Speaker 5: he had this team up and going. He had them,

835
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Speaker 5: I would say, out playing the talent on the roster,

836
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Speaker 5: but their feelings, they felt like because all of the

837
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 5: outside noise, and I blame us.

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Speaker 4: Our show, other shows talked.

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Speaker 5: About this is Josh Allen this year because there's no Mahomes,

840
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 5: no Borough, no Lamar Jackson. But what they don't factor in. Yeah,

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00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 5: that's the quarterback, but not the rest team. And they

842
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 5: did not have the best team in the tournament, which

843
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Speaker 5: is why they're not in the super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: All right, what do you got? What do you got there?

845
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Speaker 3: Brandon anything? I got one more?

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Speaker 4: Got I got one more?

847
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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 9: Leon Sanders has added some strict rules first Colorado football players.

849
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Speaker 9: We'll discuss them in full later today. But what rules

850
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 9: did some of your coaches land on you when you

851
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Speaker 9: played one?

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Speaker 4: I mean that's a good one.

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00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw Deane stuff about Tarti's and those things.

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00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 5: I think the main thing with Tom Coughlin it was

855
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 5: five minutes before meeting time is if you're not in

856
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 5: the building five minutes before the designated time. You're late

857
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 5: feet on the floor at all times. In meetings, hats

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Speaker 5: to the front, not to the back. No, like at

859
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 5: the point we had no food or whatever in meeting rooms.

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00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 4: Very strict things.

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Speaker 5: And even on the road when we're in the hotel,

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00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 5: most teams are having in sweats. We needed to be

863
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 5: in khakis, hard soul shoes and a college shirt whenever

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00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:33,959
Speaker 5: we're walking around.

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Speaker 2: Now, with that go today. That was top Cofflin back then.

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Speaker 2: With that rule role today, if you made.

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Speaker 5: The rule, it would because no one wants to get

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00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 5: the envelope. No one wants to envelope on your chair,

869
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 5: meaning that you've been fined.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if players will go for that today. Really, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I got one for you. We'll watching the playoffs. There

872
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 2: have been some questionable calls. So, Bucky Brooks, what is

873
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 2: the most difficult sport to officiate? Hockey, Baseball, basketball or football.

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Speaker 5: There's so many things that are going. I'm gonna say

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Speaker 5: football because of what I know. I think basketball and

876
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 5: those things are bang bang. You have a general sense

877
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 5: of whatever.

878
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 4: Hockey.

879
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 5: The thing that I still try and figure out sometimes

880
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 5: is the offsides. I think football because we've over complicated it.

881
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 5: What's the catch, what's not a catch, what is targeting,

882
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 5: what's not targeting, what's roughing the pass?

883
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 4: Or there are too many.

884
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 5: Little things that we have in our game that other

885
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 5: sports don't have. It's a little more black or white

886
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 5: than these other sports.

887
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 2: Right And in football sees that the calls that have

888
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 2: made certainly have a situation where it changed the game

889
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 2: more so than in basketball. You know, basketball is you know,

890
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 2: bang bang, and you got to make the call right

891
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 2: then and there. But I don't see them game changing calls.

892
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 2: But we'll see about that will continue. But he's Bucky

893
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 2: Brooks and Andy Furman and where will the next franchise

894
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 2: quarterback come from?

895
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 6: That?

896
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 2: And more coming up? All right, one player already made

897
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 2: his move. That's right around the corner. Good morning, everybody.

898
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: This is Fox Football Sunday and Fox Sports Radio. He's

899
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks, I mean de Firman. Of course, we're broadcasting

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904
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Speaker 2: subscribe right then and there. Here he is, mister Football,

911
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 2: the one and only Bucky Brooks and the way we

912
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 2: call Bucky Hawaii. I can't believe it's February first Super

913
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: BOWLUS next week.

914
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 3: It's unreal. It really is.

915
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 4: Yes, it's unreal, but it's a great journey.

916
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 5: And I love how we're ending up with the Seattle

917
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 5: Seahawks and the New England Pages. The other segment the

918
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,959
Speaker 5: previous out, we talked about defensive dominated teams.

919
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 4: You talked about Buffalo Bills and why they're not there.

920
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 5: I think we legitimately have the two best teams in

921
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 5: the league when you look at top to bottom. Not

922
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 5: many glaring weaknesses on either squad. And I think desk

923
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 5: gon make for a great Super Bowl.

924
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I tell you why. I agree with you.

925
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: But I'm reading and hearing and just people really upset

926
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 2: that these two teams are in there. I don't know

927
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: why people are down. They say they think it's boring.

928
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 2: They don't like the teams that are in there. You know,

929
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 2: several weeks prior to the playoffs, you knew that Seattle

930
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 2: and New England were, if not the best teams in

931
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 2: the league, are obviously possibilities for Super Bowl. And now

932
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, people are down. I'm hearing even

933
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: some of our compatriots right here on Fox Sports Radio. Oh,

934
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 2: super Bowl's gonna be ugly at and why it's going

935
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: to be a great super Bowl. You don't have stars,

936
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 2: you don't have to star quarterbacks in there, but it's

937
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 2: going to be a great game. I'm telling you it's

938
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 2: going to be a great game. It's not going to

939
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 2: be a blowout.

940
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 5: A couple things at play one, a lot of us

941
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 5: had Patriots fatigue given their dominance over a twenty year period,

942
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 5: so when they were down, it.

943
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 4: Was an opportunity to kick them.

944
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 5: We had abandoned the mass as they call them, the

945
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 5: obnoxiousness that came from that part of the country.

946
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 4: Like people were happy to see that go away.

947
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 5: When now they're back and they're back ahead a schedule,

948
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 5: and they have a team that's really good, a coach

949
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 5: that is great, and Mike rabel and had a quarterback

950
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 5: during the regular season who played at an MVP level.

951
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 5: The Seahawks are tucked away in the Pacific Northwest and

952
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 5: unless you are a twelve, you don't really pay attention

953
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 5: to them. And so they kind of burst on the

954
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 5: scene that the number one seed in the NFC. They

955
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 5: run through the tournament, they have a great game against

956
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 5: the LA Rams and Sam Donald is a nice story,

957
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 5: but Sam Donald has been very deflective in the efforts

958
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 5: of people trying to build him up to be the

959
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 5: reason why the Seahawks are there. And so you just

960
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 5: have a team, two teams that are teams in the

961
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 5: Super Bowl as opposed to star power. Because we talked

962
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 5: about Mahomes and Josh Allen, because there was a sympathetic

963
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 5: feel for Josh Allen, there was a sympathetic feel for

964
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 5: Matthew Stafford, like, hey, if he goes to Super Bowl,

965
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 5: this will be his gold Jacked moment and those things,

966
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 5: and a lot of the conversation driven by us on

967
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 5: our side, Andy, there's not the notable storylines that you

968
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 5: would have, and you know, the longer that you're in

969
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 5: this business, the more it becomes about storylines then about

970
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 5: the story, and that's what it is. We don't have

971
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 5: the storylines to sell leading up to the game, which.

972
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 4: Is why people are disappointed and down on it.

973
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: You know why, you hit it right on the head,

974
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 2: that was right there. Everything else you said it's fine.

975
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 2: But the last thing with the storylines, because I think

976
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: basically there's a lot.

977
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 3: Of people in the media that are lazy.

978
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 2: And when Kansas City comes in there you could spend

979
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 2: the whole segment on Taylor Swift. Really there's no storyline

980
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 2: here of a superstar player. Yeah, you could talk about

981
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 2: maybe the Sam Donald's of the world, how he came

982
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 2: out of nowhere and did this, whatever.

983
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 3: It might be.

984
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: But you know, you got to dig a little bit

985
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 2: to find the story and do a little homework. I

986
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 2: think there are some people that are lazy, and I'm

987
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 2: going to ask you this question, and I think the

988
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: storyline here, the major storyline is what kind of a

989
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 2: coach Mike vrabel is. I like to find out what

990
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 2: makes him such a great coach? How come Tennessee when

991
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: he left they went down the cropper. When he was there,

992
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 2: they went to the playoffs? What makes him? What trait

993
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: does he have that brings New England to the playoffs

994
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: to the super Bowl? You know, you close to the game,

995
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 2: you played, the game you work for a team. Why

996
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 2: is Mike Rabel such a great coach?

997
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 5: The more that I investigate and dig into him, he

998
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 5: is a great coach because he's the rare combination.

999
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 4: Of EQ and IQ like.

1000
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 5: He has the intelligence with also having the emotional feel

1001
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 5: for what you need with the players and how to

1002
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 5: get the players going. And he said this, and I'm paraphrasing,

1003
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 5: but he talked about along his journey he learned, I

1004
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 5: can coach different personalities, but I can't coach different mentalities.

1005
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 4: And so he understands that.

1006
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 5: Look, I can have a bunch of different guys on

1007
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 5: my team and they don't have to be just like me,

1008
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 5: but we all have to be aligned in the way

1009
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 5: that we're going about doing our business, meaning what we

1010
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 5: believe in, what the core values of the team are.

1011
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 4: And that is terrific. And then the other thing that

1012
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 4: he is.

1013
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 5: He is a terrific strategist. He understands the game, he

1014
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 5: understands the rules. He will exploit the rules to his advantage.

1015
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 5: They play great situational football. And when you have that

1016
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 5: part of it where he knows what he's doing from

1017
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 5: an X and O standpoint from a tactical standpoint, while

1018
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 5: also being able to bring people together. Yeah, that's what

1019
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 5: it is, because it's a relationship business. But man, when

1020
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 5: you got great relationships and you're good at the other

1021
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 5: stuff that matters between the lines, and that's when you

1022
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 5: have an opportunity to have a tremendous amount of success

1023
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 5: with the teams that you're in charge of.

1024
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 2: You know, I think that sometimes coaches are born, not made.

1025
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 2: Is that a fair statement? Because I gotta believe, and

1026
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: maybe I'm mistaken here, I gotta believe that Jesse Mitch

1027
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 2: is going to do one hell of a job in Baltimore,

1028
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 2: never been the head coach before, and his young guy

1029
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 2: was he forty forty one years of age. I just

1030
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 2: believe he has the DNA to be a great coach.

1031
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 2: You're just one of those guys. Sometimes you're born with it.

1032
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 2: You can't become a great coach either have it or

1033
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 2: your own right, do you know that?

1034
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, I think you have some of

1035
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 5: the instinct to be a leader. Yes, I think it

1036
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 5: has to be taught. It has to be developed and nurtured,

1037
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 5: and you have to have the space to be able

1038
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 5: to do that.

1039
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 4: Because you can make mistakes.

1040
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 5: Jesse has the advantage of having a father, Rick, who

1041
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 5: was a coach, who can kind of help accelerate some

1042
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 5: of the development. But he's going to have to do

1043
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 5: it in his own style. He's at a great organization

1044
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 5: that will support them. Stability, continuity, all those things matter.

1045
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 5: There's a culture that's established and to me, for him

1046
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 5: to succeed, it's great that he understands the culture in

1047
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 5: Baltimore already. To me, that gives him a chance to

1048
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 5: really have a lot of success early and be with

1049
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 5: the Harbors. And even though they moved on from the Harbor,

1050
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 5: It's kind of like what Buffalo is banking on. Hey,

1051
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 5: we got the infrastructure in place. We just wanted to

1052
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 5: have a little refreshing.

1053
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 4: You know. It's like putting a new code of paint

1054
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 4: on your house. We don't want to remodel. We just

1055
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 4: need to freshen it up a little bit, change the color.

1056
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 5: Maybe we do some things in the yard, and maybe

1057
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 5: we can put this back on the market as a

1058
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 5: top sailer. That's what the Baltimore Ravens are banking on

1059
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 5: with Jesse Mender.

1060
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 4: But he does have the goods.

1061
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 2: Okay, now, I got an interesting question for you. Is

1062
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 2: there an advantage now for the Cincinnati Bengals, And don't laugh,

1063
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: because Cleveland, Baltimore and Pittsburgh are basically starting from scratch

1064
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 2: right they got new coaches and Cincinnati has remained with

1065
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor. So is there an advantage in Cincinnati because

1066
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 2: there's no change?

1067
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 4: No, there's not.

1068
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 5: I mean there's not because their roster will make it

1069
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 5: as such like they should be good on offense, but

1070
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 5: they're still right now bad on defense until we see

1071
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 5: an overhaul, like they have to be able to play

1072
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 5: better defens Pittsburgh is going to be interesting because Mike McCarthy.

1073
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 5: For all the people that hated Mike donaldin they basically

1074
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 5: swapped out Mike Tomlin for Mike McCarthy.

1075
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 4: They're the same guy. I mean. But he's a good coach.

1076
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 5: I mean in Dallas he had three straight years with

1077
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 5: twelve win seasons. He has won a Super Bowl. He

1078
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 5: did that in Green Bay. He has a terrific resume.

1079
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 5: He has been a quarterback developer. I mean, there are

1080
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 5: a lot of good things about it. It's just not

1081
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 5: the sexy higher but it's a good hire.

1082
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 3: Interesting. It looks like he shaved the news conference looks

1083
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 3: like he shaved his beard off.

1084
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 5: I mean he did shave it off. I mean, I

1085
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 5: mean it was a press conference. But he's a yenser,

1086
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 5: he's from Pittsburgh, he's back home. You saw how emotional

1087
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 5: it is to him, and I do believe this. We

1088
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 5: always as fans, we always want people where it matters

1089
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 5: to them as much as it does to us. Fans

1090
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 5: are short for fanatics. We're fanatical about our favor teams.

1091
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Speaker 5: And when you have one of us, a homegrown guy

1092
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 5: who grew up in that city, who knows what it means,

1093
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 5: it resonates a little differently.

1094
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 4: So even though people would.

1095
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 5: Pan it as ah, the Pittsburgh people know because he's

1096
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 5: one of them, and they're gonna support him to the utmost.

1097
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 2: And I wonder how much the Aaron Rodgers connection had

1098
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 2: to do what his higher because he coached them in

1099
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: Green Bay.

1100
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 4: I mean maybe a little. We don't even know.

1101
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but he's more likely to come back with

1102
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 5: Mike McCarthy as the coach because there's a synergy in

1103
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 5: the connectivity. But remember they had to repair their they

1104
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 5: have to repair their relationship a little bit.

1105
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 4: Given the split the fallout.

1106
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, when Mike McCarthy was let

1107
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 5: go from Green Bay and Aaron Rodgers and Aaron Rodgers

1108
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 5: even holding those old scars from when Mike McCarthy picked

1109
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 5: Alex Smith over him in the draft.

1110
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 4: I mean, there's a lot of stuff.

1111
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 5: But if he's coming back, I think this will help

1112
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 5: them him their offense and he can squeeze maybe a

1113
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 5: little more out of Aaron because of the familiarity.

1114
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 6: You know.

1115
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 2: I find interesting when they were looking for the head

1116
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 2: coach in Buffalo, they said that Josh Allen will have

1117
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: a big input be on the interviews whatever it may be.

1118
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 2: In Pittsburgh, I don't think you heard a peep out

1119
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 2: of Aaron Rodgers prior to or even after the hiring

1120
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 2: of Mike McCarthy. So, you know, I wonder where Aaron

1121
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 2: rod He's probably in a cave again, right he goes

1122
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 2: back to that cave in the f season. Maybe, I

1123
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 2: don't know. Haven't heard from Aaron Rodgers.

1124
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 4: No, I haven't heard from it. I'm gonna say this.

1125
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 5: I think, look, coaches, coach, players, play, and executives should

1126
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 5: do the team stuff. And you can ask players for

1127
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 5: their opinion and you can lean on that opinion. But

1128
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 5: you can't let Josh Allen pick the coach. The coach

1129
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 5: has to be able to have a separating line between

1130
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 5: friendship and that leadership thing where I need to lead you,

1131
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 5: I need to hold you accountable. I can't be your

1132
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 5: buddy and your friend. We can be friendly, but we

1133
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 5: don't need to be best friends. And I worry when.

1134
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,720
Speaker 4: You give players too much power.

1135
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 5: Man, you're seeding a lot of the power to the players,

1136
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 5: and in a player's game, that's cool in some degree,

1137
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 5: but it still has to be a hierarchy that's established.

1138
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,919
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny you mention that, because I got

1139
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 2: to believe the Cincinnati Bengals.

1140
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 3: Have given Joe Burrow too much power. I really believe that.

1141
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 2: He kind of went public several times he says, you

1142
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 2: got to sign t Higgins and Jamar Chase, you got

1143
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 2: to do this.

1144
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,399
Speaker 3: They put so much emphasis and money.

1145
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: On the offensive side of the football, and the fans

1146
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 2: and media were with him. And you know, I'm hearing

1147
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 2: people on talk radio when the Cincinnati market saying, oh,

1148
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 2: they love it when Joe Burrow speaks out. You know,

1149
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 2: he's not afraid of the management. No, that's not his

1150
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 2: job play quarterback. I mean, I really dislike the fact

1151
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 2: that he's telling how Mike Brown and the CINCEE Bengals

1152
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 2: should spend their money. You know, when people go on

1153
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 2: record behind microphones and say this team should do this this.

1154
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 2: I find it very difficult to tell someone how to

1155
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 2: spend their money. All right now, you could say that

1156
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 2: they should have spent it on here. It would have

1157
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 2: been nice to spend it on here, But don't tell

1158
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 2: them how to spend their money.

1159
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 3: Do you agree.

1160
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 5: I do agree in terms of that part of it.

1161
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 5: I want Joe Burrow to have his opinion because I'm

1162
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,280
Speaker 5: a solicity opinion of the players, because ultimately the players

1163
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 5: know the locker room, that's it. We're gonna make the

1164
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 5: best decision based for the organization, and sometimes players won't

1165
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,439
Speaker 5: always agree to that, but they have to make it right.

1166
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 5: So I don't want all the quarterbacks to have the

1167
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 5: power to be like, oh I want this player and

1168
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 5: that player. We'll weigh in, but it has the factor

1169
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 5: into what our overarching plan for the team is. Not

1170
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 5: just you won't and you get that that doesn't work.

1171
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 5: And you heard Steve Bushatti, the owner of the Baltimore

1172
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 5: Ravens talk about that when they were asking him about

1173
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 5: Lamar and taking on the chief role. Then what he

1174
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 5: said is, I'm not giving all the player to I'm

1175
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 5: not giving all the power to a player. I will

1176
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 5: let the marton in. But if he's gonna do it,

1177
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 5: he's gonna do it like I do. He's gonna sit

1178
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 5: in all the meetings and those things. How many players

1179
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 5: are willing to do that? Ultimately, that's a big part

1180
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 5: of it too.

1181
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 2: Okay, speaking of quarterbacks, I got to run this by now,

1182
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 2: just a quickie. You got two first timers added to

1183
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,760
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl roster, Shador saying this and Jel Flakeel

1184
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 2: I had no idea he was never a Pro bowler. Okay,

1185
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 2: how would you change this Pro Bowl? Because I think

1186
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 2: that Pro Bowl game has really gone down the crap.

1187
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 3: Over the last several years.

1188
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 2: It's a joke now, and now they have it during

1189
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 2: the week. It's not even on a weekend. It's not

1190
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 2: even on a Sunday.

1191
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 5: I mean, look, man, it's never gonna be what it

1192
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 5: was in our heyday coming up, just like the Baseball

1193
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 5: All Star Game is not gonna be what it was

1194
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,720
Speaker 5: when we were coming up. You know, you just can't

1195
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 5: get that same competitiveness at the end of the season

1196
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 5: when people, Let's be honest, no one's trying to get

1197
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 5: hurt in the Pro Bowl, not trying to get hurt

1198
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 5: in the Pro Bowl.

1199
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Speaker 4: So I'm not gonna bring the same zeal And zest

1200
00:54:58,760 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 4: back in the day. And this is what no one

1201
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 4: talks about.

1202
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 5: Back in the day when we love the All Star Game,

1203
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 5: the bonuses had more impact because the players will making

1204
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 5: far less money.

1205
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 4: Then So if I'm making five hundred.

1206
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 5: Thousand dollars or maybe just a million dollars as a Superstar, well,

1207
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 5: now if you tell me that the Pro Bowl is

1208
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 5: gonna pay me an additional one hundred, one hundred and

1209
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 5: fifty five thousand, that's more significant. If I'm making forty

1210
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 5: million dollars, the one hundred thousand dollars that you throw

1211
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 5: at me is not enough for me to risk my

1212
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 5: livelihood by putting it on the line in an All

1213
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:33,479
Speaker 5: Star Game.

1214
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 4: That's really what it comes down to. People don't see

1215
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 4: the risk reward.

1216
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 5: It's not significant enough for me to give you an

1217
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 5: a level effort of regular season postseason effort in this game.

1218
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you exactly what you're paying for.

1219
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 5: Hey, I'm gonna run around and make some players, but

1220
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:50,959
Speaker 5: I'm not trying to get hurt.

1221
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 2: You know, it's very similar to the college bowl games.

1222
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 2: A lot of these players don't want to play in

1223
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 2: the ball games for fear of getting hurt. Same thing, right, Yeah, sim.

1224
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 4: Very very similar when it comes to the way they're

1225
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 4: approaching it.

1226
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 2: But I think they screwed up a little bit because

1227
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 2: I think that the players really enjoyed the trip to

1228
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 2: Honolulu when the when the Pro Bowl was in Hawaii.

1229
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm wrong. I think that that was the key,

1230
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 2: I think to get him over there, because you know,

1231
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 2: it was nice. You get a free trip. You spend

1232
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 2: like a couple of days in Honolulu, and it's not bad.

1233
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of Yeah, a lot of guys told

1234
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 5: me that you spent a lot of times. It was

1235
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 5: so competitive is because you fly all your family and

1236
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 5: all your people over and you need that extra bonus

1237
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 5: for winning.

1238
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 4: To pay for the trip.

1239
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,879
Speaker 5: I mean, you had a lot of people coming over

1240
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 5: and so there's a lot to be said for that

1241
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 5: part of it. But yeah, no, it was different Hawaii.

1242
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,240
Speaker 5: It was always in Hawaii.

1243
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 4: It was very easy to you know, see and enjoyed.

1244
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 4: It was a vacation.

1245
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 5: It's before we kind of ventured out and explored different

1246
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 5: parts of the world for vacation.

1247
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 4: But yeah, it was a nice It was a nice thing.

1248
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 4: It was a nice treat for being a really good player.

1249
00:56:59,200 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 3: No doubt about that.

1250
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 2: You know, you are always ahead of the curve. You know,

1251
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 2: you're like the you're the ringleader. I mean you you'll

1252
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 2: write something on NFL dot com and everybody follows you,

1253
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 2: and you look at the top position players and the

1254
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 2: number one quarterback in the coming draft. Okay, and you

1255
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 2: got Fernando Mendoza this NFL dot com and I love that.

1256
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 2: This is what you have every week and it was

1257
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 2: written by you. And how hard was this list to compile?

1258
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 2: Because you had a heck of a list of like

1259
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 2: top players at ease position coming up with the NFL Draft,

1260
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 2: which is like an April. So you did this and

1261
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,919
Speaker 2: you you know, didn't do it overnight. This is a long,

1262
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 2: long haul for you. You did a heck of a job.

1263
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 2: I want to talk about it a little bit. So

1264
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 2: how do you do this?

1265
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 5: Look you begin to process. For me, I started the

1266
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 5: process a little later. You're always aware because I love

1267
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 5: college football, So you're always aware who the names are,

1268
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 5: but you start digging into it, like right around November,

1269
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 5: around Thanksgiving, you start getting the list together, you start

1270
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 5: looking at the players, you start kind of narrowing down

1271
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 5: the field, like, Hey, here're the guys that I know

1272
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 5: are gonna be in the top one hundred, top one fifty.

1273
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 5: Let me begin to look at some of these guys.

1274
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 5: And then you started looking at the class in general.

1275
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 5: What are the strengths and weaknesses. What are the positions

1276
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 5: that you can get players throughout the draft that are

1277
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 5: going to be impactful?

1278
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 4: What are these shallow positions?

1279
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 5: Because it is a game of supply and demand, what

1280
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 5: positions don't afford a lot of supply of high end players. Well,

1281
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 5: that's going to be where we can see more of

1282
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 5: the action, particularly when it comes to quarterbacks. So you

1283
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 5: take all that you're writing consideration, and then you've come

1284
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 5: to through all some questions that you know people are

1285
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 5: buzzing about.

1286
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 2: Okay, so now you got Fernando mendoz is a top

1287
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 2: quarterback pick in the draft.

1288
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 3: You had that picked.

1289
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 2: I'm sure you had him picked prior to the National

1290
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 2: Championship game.

1291
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 3: It's six'.

1292
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 2: Five all, right he's got the right size six' five

1293
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,479
Speaker 2: pocket passer two. Twenty FIVE but i think the key

1294
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 2: that puts him head and shoulders of the rest of

1295
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 2: the quarterback lists is the fact that you've got that.

1296
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 2: High character when, he speaks he just he's the kind

1297
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 2: of guy you want on. Your team he's a heck of.

1298
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 2: A leader i think the characters aspect is big as

1299
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 2: opposed to the character aspect on the Quarterback at vanderbilt

1300
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 2: who went nuts when he didn't Win The.

1301
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 5: Heisman, TROPHY yeah, i, Mean Certainly fernando mendoza checks.

1302
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 4: Off a lot.

1303
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 6: Of.

1304
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 4: Boxes right he graduated From Cal business school.

1305
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 5: In, three years so you know he's a. Smart kid

1306
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 5: he's in the master's program doing his Thing. At indiana

1307
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 5: when you hear, him speak he always talks about the

1308
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 5: team first and that part, of it like great lessons

1309
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:26,479
Speaker 5: for young people coming.

1310
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 4: Behind, him now he's.

1311
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 5: A little goofy when it comes off to me in,

1312
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 5: those presses but you can't. Deny that and then on,

1313
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 5: the field he is really good operating Within the. Indiana

1314
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 5: system ball comes out with plenty, of energy it's, on

1315
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 5: time it's. On target he does a, great job the

1316
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 5: couple of things that he has to answer going to the.

1317
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 5: Next level how does he, handle pressure meaning does his

1318
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 5: game change when he starts getting. Knocked around he didn't

1319
00:59:56,480 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 5: throw the ball well when it was, vizational plays when

1320
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 5: he had to play off. The script in, those things

1321
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 5: a lot of his, Mistakes HAPPEN so i worry, about

1322
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 5: that AND then i worry about man just his overall

1323
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 5: feel for the game in terms of can he elevate

1324
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 5: the franchise because they're, categories right, game changer. GAME manager

1325
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 5: i see him as more of a. Managerial candidate but

1326
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 5: we've seen guys and this.

1327
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 4: WHO'S who i would compare.

1328
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 5: Him to we've seen Guys Like jerry goff lead a

1329
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 5: team to A, super bowl be a Four time. Pro

1330
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 5: bowler and it's NOT because i would say he has,

1331
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 5: superior talent but he was a really good point guard

1332
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 5: when you surrounded him with. The pieces, To me mendoza's

1333
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 5: in the. Same category i'm going.

1334
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 2: TO continue i got to call them more quarterbacks on,

1335
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 2: that list and some other players.

1336
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 3: As Well He's.

1337
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 2: Bucket brooks get HIM on X At bucket Brooks At ANDY,

1338
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 2: furman fsr or you could get us both at eight

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Speaker 2: seven seven nine nine six sixty three. Sixty nine and

1341
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Speaker 2: of course we got The blame game at the end of.

1342
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,919
Speaker 2: The hour we're broadcasting live From The Fox west radio

1343
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 2: studios and we're going to tell you who is the NFL's.

1344
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: Biggest loser you don't Listening To Fox Sports, radio radio.

1345
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 3: All right some rules to live by that's coming.

1346
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,120
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1347
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,280
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01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,640
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1349
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1358
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 2: gonna have The blame game coming up at about ten

1359
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 2: twelve minutes. From, NOW now i want to get back

1360
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 2: TO the Nfl dot com which, You Wrote, bucky brooks

1361
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 2: and we talk. About quarterbacks What About, Ty simpson because

1362
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 2: here's a guy that somebody evaluators are comparing Him To

1363
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 2: mac Jones Or.

1364
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 3: BROCK purdy i don't know if that's such a.

1365
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 2: GOOD thing i don't know if that's a good thing

1366
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 2: because he didn't get a lot of Starts, at alabama

1367
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 2: so what's the deal.

1368
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 4: WITH him i think that's a really.

1369
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 5: Good comparison i'll compare More To rock purdy more So

1370
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 5: Than mac Jones And. Rock purdy the comparison you're making

1371
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 5: is a little based on. Size stature he's gonna come

1372
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 5: in like six', two or shorter doesn't have a, big

1373
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 5: statuesque body and you talk about the limited.

1374
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 4: Number of stars he's a. One year starter he wore

1375
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 4: down at the end, of the year and there was.

1376
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 5: A four game stretch where he completed less than sixty

1377
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 5: percent of his passes and it. Didn't look great he

1378
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 5: was as hot as you could find for maybe eight,

1379
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 5: or nine games but then he cool considerably down the

1380
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 5: stretch and. He got hurt in. The playoff game you

1381
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 5: saw him get Beat up by indiana tap, he taps

1382
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 5: out he's.

1383
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 4: Out the game so you just don't know.

1384
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 5: What He is but he's in a class where you

1385
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 5: don't have, any other quarterbacks so he is. THE runner

1386
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 5: UP i mean i don't see it, by the fault but,

1387
01:02:58,240 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 5: in a way, by the fault he's The. Runner up

1388
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 5: mendoza so he may be overdrafted considering his experience, in

1389
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 5: his resume but that's just what it, is with quarterbacks

1390
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 5: and so the team that takes him though has to

1391
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 5: understand what the challenges are with a.

1392
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 2: One, year starter yeah this is a, week Quarterback class

1393
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 2: and i'll. Tell you why another guy who got beat

1394
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 2: up in The Players was Dante. MOORE of oregon i

1395
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 2: think his stock kind of fell big time, in that.

1396
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 3: GAME didn't he.

1397
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 4: I mean it felt a little bit bit he was

1398
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 4: expected to stay.

1399
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 5: The entire, time you know like there are people who

1400
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 5: giving HIS struggles that ucla, as a freshman they wanted

1401
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 5: to see him continue to get more. Starts and play

1402
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 5: that's a good. Decision for him he left some money.

1403
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 5: On the table he would have been probably number two.

1404
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 5: In the class but for, his long term he may

1405
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 5: get drafted later but end up playing longer because the

1406
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 5: experience has been shown to help them help players when

1407
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 5: it comes down to having longevity and success.

1408
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 2: In, The, league okay archman he's going to go, back

1409
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 2: to school so he's not going to be.

1410
01:03:58,240 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 3: In The draft but i'll tell you.

1411
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 2: What's A guy and i'm sure that people, are, gonna,

1412
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 2: say you well who? Is this guy but this guy

1413
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 2: Could Be a french he could be a sleeper in the.

1414
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 2: Draft of Quarterbacks leonora's Sell Us for south, carolina six.

1415
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 2: Three two forty, he could run. HE could throw i

1416
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 2: think this guy could be could be.

1417
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 3: The real deal he. Could surprise everybody what DO you

1418
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 3: think i?

1419
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 5: MEAN he could i mean next year's class like. He

1420
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 5: certainly could he has the size and the stuff. To

1421
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 5: do it The thing about leonori's he. Didn't play Great

1422
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 5: So at south carolina They can get hi a, new

1423
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 5: offensive coordinator another offense if he can take some. Steps

1424
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 5: towards development but very intriguing prospect and there are a

1425
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 5: lot of people that were.

1426
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 4: High ON them when i, looked at him he reminded

1427
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 4: me A.

1428
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 5: Lot of steve McNair when he was in his early

1429
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 5: Days With the tennessee Titans Or. The houston orders their

1430
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 5: games are very very similar in terms of just the

1431
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 5: rugged feel, to the game the physicality that he brings.

1432
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 9: To.

1433
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 2: The, GAME interesting okay i don't want to spend too

1434
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 2: much time ON your Piece. Nfl dot com, you were

1435
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 2: great you really war. And running that but THE one

1436
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 2: player i really enjoyed watching This Year was jeremiah love.

1437
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 2: And this guy and it's A shame because i don't

1438
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 2: think that the evaluators who are people who pick in

1439
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 2: the draft respect the. Running back position but he's obviously

1440
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 2: going to be the number one running. Back to go

1441
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 2: but he's got to be in, the first round.

1442
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 3: Don't You. THINK jeremiah love i love watching Him Play.

1443
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 3: At notre dame love, them, great.

1444
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 5: Player dynamic he can. Do It all and i'm gonna

1445
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 5: say this is backup and Running Back. At Notre dame

1446
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 5: jenerium price could be the second. One to go but In,

1447
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 5: terms of. Love he's explosive he's a electric with the ball.

1448
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 5: In his hands he can score from anyone. In the

1449
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 5: field he can do it, as a runner receiver. Out

1450
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 5: the backfield you put him, in any scheme he's. Friendly

1451
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 5: zone scheme he knows how to attack the. Edges downhill

1452
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 5: power he can come down and. Cut it back, he

1453
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 5: sees it he has a. Feel for it and he

1454
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 5: also has a little juice when it comes to the

1455
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 5: balance to buy the control In the first he has all.

1456
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 4: Of those things this is why he can be the.

1457
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 5: FIRST running back i mean we talked about is rare

1458
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 5: to take guys in. The top ten he could be

1459
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 5: in that Rare category. Where bijon went he could Go

1460
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 5: just like saquan and. Others have gone, He's, That.

1461
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 2: Good okay mike my question now is that will there

1462
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 2: be any doubts of picking him because of What Happened

1463
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 2: to ashton Genty.

1464
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 3: WITH the, raiders i mean he was. Dynamite in college

1465
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 3: maybe the team. HE was on.

1466
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 2: I Don't know what are you surprised of The Year

1467
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 2: that ashton Genty?

1468
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 4: HAD with vegas, i MEAN yeah but i think there's a.

1469
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 5: Lot of, dysfunction You Know The Chip kelly pete carroll

1470
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 5: relationship didn't appear to be on the same page when it,

1471
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 5: came to that the Front Office and pete carroll in

1472
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 5: terms of how they want. TO play it i think

1473
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 5: he made, some poor decisions but that didn't help the player.

1474
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 5: Maximize his, talent next year there'll be no excuses when

1475
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 5: it comes to him because he's had a full off

1476
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 5: season to work on his game to. Colived his craft

1477
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 5: he knows what. He's walking into now it's about making sure.

1478
01:06:59,000 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 6: He.

1479
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 2: DOES that okay i talked about. The, biggest loser okay

1480
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 2: and the biggest loser right NOW. In the nfl you

1481
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:06,479
Speaker 2: want to. Take a guess you wanna take a guess

1482
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 2: which team is?

1483
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 9: The?

1484
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 3: Biggest loser?

1485
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 4: Yeah Who's That The?

1486
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 2: New, York jets okay obviously they haven't reached the postseasons,

1487
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 2: is twenty ten which is the longest playoff drought of

1488
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 2: any team in Major league. Sports american sports right now

1489
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:22,919
Speaker 2: and Now In, the super bowl it's gotta be more

1490
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 2: of a. Pain for them Who was The? Patriots and

1491
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 2: SEAHAWKS why do? I say that seahawks are led by

1492
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 2: a quarterback who is Drafted by the jets to. Be

1493
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 2: their savior then they Dumped Them and sam donald that's,

1494
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 2: gotta be like, oh my goodness are? YOU kidding, me

1495
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 2: i mean that's for the executives still Working for the.

1496
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 2: Jets right now that has to be a slap.

1497
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 3: In the face.

1498
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 2: It really Is then the seahawks have their co, Leader In,

1499
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 2: sacks leonard williams Who is a jets first round pick.

1500
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 3: In twenty fifteen how?

1501
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 2: Does that happen these two players end Up In the

1502
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 2: super bowl Picked by the jets and they just Couldn't

1503
01:07:58,040 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 2: make the jets.

1504
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 5: And they're, gone, system, matters, system environment culture. It all

1505
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 5: Matters And, for sam donald he wasn't in the right

1506
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 5: system and he wasn't in the right environment to maximize

1507
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 5: who he could be as a. Franchise quarterback Now but

1508
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 5: the jets weren't the only one that. Passed On, him

1509
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 5: carolina panthers remember they. Traded for him they got Him

1510
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 5: Here in baker mayfield backing up each other. That didn't

1511
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 5: Work goes to cincinnati as, a number three and there

1512
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 5: were people that said he, was more talented maybe than

1513
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 5: the two guys in.

1514
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 4: Front of him but he had to.

1515
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 5: Buy his turn but what that did is that gave

1516
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 5: him an intro, to the system and that gave him

1517
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 5: an opportunity to Be Endorsed.

1518
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 4: By kyle shanahan as one. Of the guys and That.

1519
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 5: Led, to kevin O'Connell who's another guy that is kind Of.

1520
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 5: In That shanahan McVeigh tree, takes him, on helps him

1521
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 5: and then He goes to seattle because he's matured enough to, now,

1522
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:50,640
Speaker 5: they're like hey he's ready to.

1523
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 4: Be the guy so. It worked out but.

1524
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 5: Give Him credit the jets never would have saw this

1525
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 5: Version of m donald because they wouldn't have had the

1526
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 5: patience to stick with him through the good. And the

1527
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 5: bad and a lot of that is how resilient, are

1528
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 5: the coaches how resilient are the front office when it

1529
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 5: comes to being able to. Weather the criticism they could

1530
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:11,600
Speaker 5: go with a topic struggling.

1531
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 3: At, the gate okay to tell you How bad?

1532
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 2: The jets are, You, know this okay They, traded into carolina,

1533
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 2: as you know and that was it was. AT twenty

1534
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 2: sixteen i Think, it was, imber who knows but they

1535
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 2: used The pick from carolina to Replace Him with zach

1536
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 2: wilson and he.

1537
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 3: WAS a, bust i mean that's How bad.

1538
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 2: The jets were, they, traded him okay and they cut

1539
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 2: him and then they had That trade with carolina and

1540
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 2: they used The, pick from carolina the, number two Pick To.

1541
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 3: Dreve zach wilson that's how, bad, It was.

1542
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 2: Right it's amazing how bad? Is that franchise it's, really

1543
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 2: it's disgusting. It really is it's just, YOU know what

1544
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 2: i just DON'T think when. I say this fans. Don't,

1545
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 2: deserve that really you're paying good money to watch a

1546
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 2: product and. The, product stinks eventually the product's got. To

1547
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 2: get better it just. Doesn't get better so as Far

1548
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 2: as the, JETS are, concerned, i mean really it's just.

1549
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 4: It's.

1550
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:06,480
Speaker 2: Not happening really And then The Patriots had bill belichick

1551
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 2: as A coach after belichick resigned on a Napkin as,

1552
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 2: a jets. Coach remember that And so the jets right

1553
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 2: now are being haunted By This.

1554
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 3: Year's.

1555
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 2: Super bowl, amazing it's unreal. It really is you couldn't

1556
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 2: have written the, script like that. But IT happens but

1557
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 2: i will tell you this talk about the script That

1558
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 2: the deon sanders is running like cracking down on violations,

1559
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 2: THESE rules here i got, to ask you what kind

1560
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 2: of rules did you have as a, college football player

1561
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 2: if you had.

1562
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 5: ANY at all i mean IT'S a different i mean

1563
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 5: it's a different thing because we didn't, have the money

1564
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 5: so you.

1565
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 4: Didn't have funds you.

1566
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 5: Had different things so if you were late, for a

1567
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 5: meeting you wouldn't have to pay a.

1568
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 4: Thousand or two.

1569
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 5: Thousand dollars fine you would have to go See Coach

1570
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 5: sutan rich stutent was, a strength coach and you would

1571
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 5: have to pay us back with two hundred flights, on the,

1572
01:10:56,080 --> 01:11:00,679
Speaker 5: StairMaster you know like those. Kinds of things is corporal

1573
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 5: punishment back, in those days as opposed to the fines

1574
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 5: and the systems they currently.

1575
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 4: Have IN place what.

1576
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 2: I, don't understand, is you know, you're a coach and coaches.

1577
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 2: Have their philosophy obviously they were three and Nine, Last

1578
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 2: year colorado So why is deonne changing things all of

1579
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 2: a sudden now putting rules? In place now is that

1580
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 2: because the team was too loosey goosey. In the past is?

1581
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 2: HE changing now, I don't understand or maybe, There were

1582
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 2: problems maybe there were a lot of problems THAT he

1583
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 2: says i. WANT to stop i. DON'T get it i

1584
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 2: don't understand why all of. A sudden now coaches don't

1585
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 2: usually change their philosophy. IN mid stream i don't think.

1586
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 5: He's always, Been like this like it may just be

1587
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,639
Speaker 5: public consumption that we know about it as it relates,

1588
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:44,600
Speaker 5: To the money but he's always been old school in

1589
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 5: terms of what, he believes in how, the team ran

1590
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 5: the discipline, that they have his lack of tolerance. For,

1591
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 5: certain stuff yeah that. Has never changed he has always been.

1592
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 5: On that wagon it's, just you know it's more sensationalized

1593
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 5: because now it's monitor and we're talking about young people

1594
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 5: learning how expensive impunitive fines can be when you don't

1595
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 5: do what you're.

1596
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 3: Supposed, to do okay the question is obviously why would

1597
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 3: you go? Public with? This number?

1598
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,640
Speaker 2: One number two since you have gone public with this

1599
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 2: and you put the listing of how much each find

1600
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 2: is going, to cost you that to me. Will QUOTE

1601
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 2: hurt and i use the word with prophesies recruiting because recruiting.

1602
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 3: Right now is all about how much you're.

1603
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 2: Gonna pay ME so maybe i players don't care, because,

1604
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 2: THEY'LL say look i WANT to get x. Amount of

1605
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 2: dollars i'm not going to break any. Of these RULES

1606
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 2: i'm still i still want To Play. FOR dion, sanders.

1607
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 4: I mean.

1608
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,720
Speaker 5: THERE the gout i think the rules won't. Be a

1609
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 5: deterrent it comes down to, the bottom line and then

1610
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 5: it comes down. To the coach are you willing to

1611
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 5: take the money that is out there and play for

1612
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 5: the coach that you want? To play with and you

1613
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 5: can't be swayed or. Lured by money you have to

1614
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 5: have the ability to. Make, those DECISIONS no so i

1615
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 5: don't think it'll be a negative. ON the thing i,

1616
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 5: think if anything some we'll see it is positive in

1617
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 5: terms of trying to get guys in line and trying

1618
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 5: to prepare them for what is on the horizon at

1619
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 5: the next level when they will get fined for some.

1620
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 4: Of their missteps have you seen some.

1621
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 3: Of these violations i'm going to read a. COUPLE to

1622
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 3: you i.

1623
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 2: Got him here if you're late to a meeting or,

1624
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 2: a film session that's, four hundred. Bucks all right if

1625
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,919
Speaker 2: you're late to practice, five hundred dollars late to strength,

1626
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 2: and conditioning workout one thousand dollars late to treatment one

1627
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:30,520
Speaker 2: thousand absent for, treatment fifteen hundred absent from strength to conditioning.

1628
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 2: Workout fifteen hundred if you're absent from a meeting or

1629
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 2: a film session Two thousand dollars are? You kidding me

1630
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 2: absent from practice. Twenty five hundred violation of team rules

1631
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 2: up to twenty five hundred dollars based on severity and

1632
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 2: public or social medium is conduct up to. Five thousand

1633
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 2: dollars where does? THIS money go i guess he has

1634
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 2: a party at the end.

1635
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 3: Of THE year maybe. I, don't.

1636
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:56,679
Speaker 5: Know yeah it goes. To a kid they'll figure out.

1637
01:13:56,760 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 5: Where it goes. BUT applaud them i. Mean need rules

1638
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 5: they need to understand how to live in a black

1639
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 5: and white. Society with rules everything's not. In the grades

1640
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 5: it's for so long they've been. Able, to exist yeah

1641
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 5: his twin. BOYS like, that i MEAN like when I

1642
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 5: think about prime having raised his kids, within the program

1643
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,639
Speaker 5: he understands, what is necessary and he talked about really

1644
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 5: wanted to develop young people. Beyond the game there's no

1645
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 5: doubt about his commitment and investment in his team and

1646
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:26,680
Speaker 5: what he's.

1647
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 4: Trying to do now it's. This next level what are

1648
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 4: the next level Next? Steps, for colorado.

1649
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 2: Okay do you agree WITH me when i say that

1650
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 2: the lack, OF the dress i mean looking like a

1651
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 2: slob has a lot to do.

1652
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 3: With Poor behavior. MAYBE i'm wrong i think. There's A

1653
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 3: correlation and i look at.

1654
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 2: College basketball coaches the ONLY coach that i see that

1655
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 2: dresses like back in, the old Days Right. Was rick

1656
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 2: patino he wears the, suits every Game You. KNOW jay

1657
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 2: wright i mean he was always dressed to The. Tends

1658
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 2: at villanova but these coaches come out now with. SNEAKERS and,

1659
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 2: SWEATSUITS i MEAN i think i think that's a message.

1660
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 2: That SENT out am i?

1661
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 3: Wrong On that, maybe i'm, just you know just. TOO

1662
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,600
Speaker 3: old school. I don't know i just think there's a

1663
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 3: correlation there with lack of dress and.

1664
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 5: Lack, OF respect, yeah i mean there's something, To Do

1665
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 5: that and I'VE played with i played four coaches that.

1666
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 5: Believe in that, AS a coach i believe. In, that

1667
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 5: stuff hey, let's turken us tuck in, our shirt tails

1668
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 5: let's make sure we look like champions before we can

1669
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 5: play at. The championship level all, of it matters and

1670
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 5: what you're really creating when it, comes to that there's

1671
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 5: an image of your team that you.

1672
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 4: Want to uphold and that image.

1673
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 5: In terms of being first class or championship callat is

1674
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 5: what you're cultivating outside the lines and then inside the lions,

1675
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 5: on the field you're trying to make sure you maintain

1676
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 5: those same.

1677
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 2: Standards and, expectations, one quickly now My Good, friend david

1678
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 2: folch who Played, for the bengals he's like the shirt police.

1679
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 2: On the sidelines he finds these guys if their shirts.

1680
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 2: Aren't tucked in so that's part of the game when,

1681
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 2: during the game but. BEFORE the game i didn't EVEN

1682
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 2: know the, nfl Had that but david told me that's.

1683
01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:59,799
Speaker 2: What he does he stays on The sideline at bengal

1684
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 2: home games and if the guy does n'ta his, shirts

1685
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 2: tucked in or two different pairs of, shoes on there

1686
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 2: or there are two different, not matching socks he.

1687
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 3: Finds THEM in the. Nfl, FINDS him.

1688
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, i mean. Yeah they do they're sticklers for that

1689
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:13,599
Speaker 4: because there's.

1690
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 3: A product, there we, go all right we'll.

1691
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:18,600
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1692
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Speaker 2: many ferman and, you know why it's time time to let.

1693
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1694
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Speaker 1: All, your fault no. It's your fault what is? All

1714
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 1: your fault.

1715
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:22,480
Speaker 3: Maybe, it's everyone's.

1716
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:25,719
Speaker 1: Fault the liar that's why there's.

1717
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 3: The blame game let's figure out?

1718
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 6: Who to?

1719
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:32,200
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1720
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1721
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1722
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 4: Let's do it.

1723
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 9: Let's Do it joe, Flack owned sure sanders. Are, Pro

1724
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 9: Bowlers famously tyler huntley was a pro bowler a few

1725
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 9: seasons ago and that was. In the news although he

1726
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 9: did lead Help lead the ravens of the. Playoffs that

1727
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 9: year who is To Blame that Shudore Sanders and joe flack,

1728
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 9: are Pro, BOWLERS mister Brooks I.

1729
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 5: Mean drake may had to pull out, of the GAME

1730
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 5: and then I Mean probably josh allen some other people

1731
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 5: like the guys who were originally voted in and. Pull

1732
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:09,640
Speaker 5: it out that now Creates Opportunities for shuder sanders to

1733
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 5: go in and given the lack of elite quarterbacks in

1734
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 5: the game and so, many, people bypassing yeah now you

1735
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 5: get to the middle rung, of the ladder and that's

1736
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 5: How You get Joe Flacco. And shootrew sanders i'm just

1737
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 5: trying To Figure. Out Joe Flacco like joe flacco? From

1738
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 5: which Team Where did joe? Flacco play at?

1739
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 4: Where was headty he played a handful of games like

1740
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 4: did how? Do he qualify how do you qualify?

1741
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 3: To get there it got.

1742
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 2: It by default it's hard To Believe that joe flacco

1743
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 2: sho thos with teammates at one time. This past year

1744
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 2: but You know what. I'm gonna blame i'm Gonna Play The.

1745
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 2: National football league you got To Get That pro pro.

1746
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 2: Bowl game better you got to do. Something, about it

1747
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 2: really do? You know what you'd be better off having

1748
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,640
Speaker 2: a bowl Game Called the toilet bowl and have the

1749
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 2: two worst TEAMS in the nfl playing Than Having?

1750
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 3: The, pro bowl really you?

1751
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 7: Really what?

1752
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 2: More people want you get A Sponsor, gainst santa flush

1753
01:18:58,439 --> 01:18:59,679
Speaker 2: you get, The dude wipes they'll.

1754
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:02,599
Speaker 3: They'll a sponsor can only Sponsors Called.

1755
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:05,640
Speaker 2: The toilet bowl and have the two worst TEAMS in

1756
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 2: the nfl player and, you know what maybe the winner

1757
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 2: gets the first draft pick. Something like That Because the

1758
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 2: pro bowl has. Seen better days god, Forget it finish.

1759
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 5: Yeah it has but it's Still a great it still draws.

1760
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,640
Speaker 5: A great number so it's not going anywhere, because it's.

1761
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:21,679
Speaker 3: Football That's Why.

1762
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 9: And bill bolchuck's not Going to The hall of. FAME

1763
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 9: this year i know we talked, About this earlier but

1764
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 9: who is to?

1765
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 3: Blame?

1766
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 4: For, that bucky oh it's.

1767
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 5: All, the right look it's all the writers that are holding. Grudges,

1768
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 5: against him first it was because the things, on the

1769
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 5: field his, testy little attitude and that has a lot

1770
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 5: of jealousy because he has. A young girlfriend people are.

1771
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 5: Mad about that there's a lot of Hate Going. Around

1772
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 5: bill belichick he. Should be in this is silly that we're.

1773
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 5: Talking about it YOU.

1774
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 3: Know, Who i blame and she's probably.

1775
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 2: A wonderful Woman I blame jordan huts and his girlfriend

1776
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 2: really because, because of her People There. REST bill belichier

1777
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 2: i feel like this jealousy they wish they could.

1778
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 3: Have a girlfriend for the eight, Years they're younger they.

1779
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 3: Really Do so.

1780
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:05,600
Speaker 2: Jordan hudson is the one that put The Hecks, on

1781
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 2: BILL belichick And i hope bill's very. Happy with her

1782
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 2: she's probably, a Fine woman and I'm glad for. BILL

1783
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 2: he's Happy I.

1784
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 3: LOVE bill.

1785
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 2: Belichick i do but, Because of her billy didn't get in.

1786
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 2: Because they're. Jealous they're jealous that's.

1787
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 9: What.

1788
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 3: It is jealous he's, a terrible. Thing All, Right josh.

1789
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 9: Allen bill's quarterback he played the final four games of

1790
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:27,680
Speaker 9: the season with on. A broken, foot tough guy known

1791
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 9: for playing through. Stuff each season, it feels like who

1792
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 9: do you?

1793
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 3: Blame For? That Mister, Brooks, MISTER brooks.

1794
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 5: Well, i mean look his playing style is going to

1795
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 5: make him subjects to get hit. And BANGED up but

1796
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 5: i give him a lot of credit for being tough

1797
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:41,600
Speaker 5: enough to be able. To do it hats off to

1798
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 5: him for playing and finishing the season with.

1799
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 4: A broken fit most people wouldn't be able.

1800
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 2: To do that, You're Two. Nice bucky brooks you gotta

1801
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 2: blame the. Athletic, training staff really how did? They not

1802
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 2: know they didn't know how? To broken foot they kept

1803
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 2: it on The raps state they were. Quiet about, it they.

1804
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 2: Knew someone knew they, had to know, the training staff.

1805
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 2: The team, physician, come on really they didn't know, that

1806
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 2: broken foot just the way, he even walked whether he. Was, in,

1807
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 2: practice please really that's a, joke to. Crime that's what.

1808
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 2: It's a crime it is all, right with, that we

1809
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 2: saying we bid you ado continue. Your, birthday celebration brandon

1810
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 2: really do stay tuned the blame game next