Speaker 1: Stage crackers, we will sue you.
Speaker 2: Then.
Speaker 3: Welcome Happy Friday, December second, and welcome to the Just
Speaker 3: Baseball Show. I'm Peter, that's Jack In, that's Arm. It's
Speaker 3: the three of us, and we're doing this week in baseball.
Speaker 2: Spoiler.
Speaker 3: Not a lot happened, but some things happen that I
Speaker 3: find very interesting.
Speaker 2: Gentlemen, how are you It's Friday? Sorta.
Speaker 3: We're always recording a day earlier, so we like to
Speaker 3: pretend that it's Friday. It's almost the weekend. Thursday's kind
Speaker 3: of like the week and now, especially in the off season,
Speaker 3: like this, are you.
Speaker 2: Doing doing good? Doing good?
Speaker 4: The stove is mid slowly, slowly eating up a lot
Speaker 4: of rumor mills stuff that Jack and I talked about,
Speaker 4: the buzzwords.
Speaker 2: The buzzwords have been flying over the last.
Speaker 4: Week or so, but some stigtnings to talk about some
Speaker 4: some things going on, and usually when we don't have
Speaker 4: as much of a blueprint into the episode, it ends
Speaker 4: up being a lot more fun.
Speaker 3: Anyways, Jack from Buster Only. There is a sense among
Speaker 3: some execs that a wave of second tier free agent
Speaker 3: relievers is moving fast and on the cusp of landing deals.
Speaker 3: Yes example, Chris Martin, Miguel Castro, et cetera. Let's let's
Speaker 3: speculate here. Who do you think he means by et cetera?
Speaker 5: Yeah, shit, I mean brad boxburger Man, like he's gotta
Speaker 5: be second tier. I think he is his second tier.
Speaker 2: Dispectful, got it? Disrespectful.
Speaker 5: But now here's the thing, where do you put Adam
Speaker 5: out of?
Speaker 3: You know, well, we we just did our general Manager
Speaker 3: episodes with the Los Angeles Angels giving them Tommy Kinley.
Speaker 3: Do you think Tommy Cainley is a second tier?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 5: It might be tier three?
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 5: Actually today, you know what, we have a structure now
Speaker 5: today we're doing reliever tiers. But we're not talking about
Speaker 5: tier one. We're talking about two through six.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 3: Not very cool. All right, let's dive into some of
Speaker 3: these deals. A deal that we haven't talked about yet
Speaker 3: that is definitely not second tier. And like I said,
Speaker 3: we just did the Angels episode yesterday. We were playing GM,
Speaker 3: but we didn't talk about the specifics of the Hunter
Speaker 3: Renfro deal. So Hunter Renfro goes from Milwaukee over to
Speaker 3: the Los Angeles Angels and in return, the Brewers got
Speaker 3: Jansen junk right hand in a pitcher as well as
Speaker 3: Elvis Poguero reliever. And they got some dude I've never
Speaker 3: heard of Somaris. Yeah, this is usually your cue. Who
Speaker 3: is Seminaris?
Speaker 4: It's it's pitching depth. Junk is probably the bad bet
Speaker 4: to be something seems like a salary dump, right, I mean,
Speaker 4: it's really what the Brewers seem to be doing. Another
Speaker 4: clearing the way for the outfield. We talked about this.
Speaker 2: We probably talked about it way too much in the group.
Speaker 4: Chat, but you know, off the Brewers, we're clearing up money,
Speaker 4: and I think it's very clear that the Brewers don't
Speaker 4: like to exceed a certain amount of money.
Speaker 2: Also, they're tied up with Yelich.
Speaker 4: For a long time financially, and I'm very interested to
Speaker 4: see what the subsequent moves are. Obviously they have some
Speaker 4: really good outfield prospects coming up. But you know, like
Speaker 4: I said when we were going back and forth about it, Peters,
Speaker 4: if you're really serious about contending, I don't think you
Speaker 4: can you can go out there and say, oh, we're
Speaker 4: gonna start two rookie outfielders, maybe another rookie somewhere else,
Speaker 4: and feel really good about what we're doing, so I'm
Speaker 4: very interested to see what else they do because we
Speaker 4: also saw Colton Wong floated in trade talks as well.
Speaker 4: If they trade Wong too, that just seems another ten
Speaker 4: million dollar guy roughly for next year. Seems like they're
Speaker 4: kind of trimming the salary a little bit or some
Speaker 4: of their more expensive guys that they can't move, Like.
Speaker 3: Yelich Jack, you were I don't know if you were
Speaker 3: participating in when Arm and I were just going back
Speaker 3: and forth on the steal, because that's what we do
Speaker 3: in the offseason. We get really really mad at each
Speaker 3: other over we have a lot of deal yeah, whether
Speaker 3: it's like a salary dump or whether the Brewers actually
Speaker 3: got something. And the reason why I was not because
Speaker 3: I agree with Arm it was a salary dump, but
Speaker 3: I also didn't want to discount who the Brewers got
Speaker 3: in return because I kind of like Jensen Junk a
Speaker 3: little bit.
Speaker 2: I kind of like him.
Speaker 3: He's got to get fastball high spin, he's got to
Speaker 3: give fastball high spin. He's got a good slider, and
Speaker 3: he had a twenty nine percent krate six four eighty ra,
Speaker 3: so there's that. But he's something, and I didn't think
Speaker 3: that it was just they got a bag of nothing burgers,
Speaker 3: and I just didn't want to disrespect Jensen Chunk because
Speaker 3: I do think that he could be something, and I
Speaker 3: do think that he's going to contribute, and it wasn't
Speaker 3: just a and I also am not the biggest hunter
Speaker 3: Renfro guy. I think it is a salary dump, but
Speaker 3: I thought it was kind of smart what the Brewers
Speaker 3: did because I I think Renfro coming over from Milwaukee,
Speaker 3: where it's really easy to hit, I don't know if
Speaker 3: we're going to see that same power as he enters
Speaker 3: his thirties, and that's kind of all you get from him.
Speaker 3: He's not that great of a defender. He doesn't hit
Speaker 3: for a high average, he doesn't walk that much. He's
Speaker 3: just kind of a power or nothing guy, and he
Speaker 3: throws the ball really hard from right field. So yes,
Speaker 3: arm was right about salary dump, but at the same time,
Speaker 3: I wanted to go at him because it's November and
Speaker 3: this is all we got.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: Of course, I do think Junk can be I do
Speaker 4: think Junk's gonna contribute in some way.
Speaker 2: Mid'dle really spots start somethings.
Speaker 3: But it starts nice, like I'm gonna be on him
Speaker 3: on a bet and like you're I'm gonna be like,
Speaker 3: we won that one.
Speaker 2: You're gonna I can't wait. I can't wait.
Speaker 5: Seven year old who had like a mid four z
Speaker 5: R and salt lake this year.
Speaker 3: Listen, Jacobi, Michael Jordan didn't make his varsity team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're right, You're right.
Speaker 5: But then mj was dropping like fifty points on JV,
Speaker 5: Like people for get that part, Like he was the
Speaker 5: best JV basketball player of the world has ever seen
Speaker 5: at that point. Janson, Junk is gonna be twenty seven
Speaker 5: years old. He had a mid four z R and
Speaker 5: salt Like, I know why you like him. He had
Speaker 5: a sub to era and twelve starts in Somerset last year,
Speaker 5: like he was a good double a pitcher in the
Speaker 5: New York Yankee system. I think it's funny that Junk
Speaker 5: and Elvis Pagero are in tandem each time they move
Speaker 5: jump and Pagero went for Heeni and Cash last deadline,
Speaker 5: and now it's Junk, Pagero and Seminaris going for Hunter Renfro.
Speaker 2: What if they hate each other? This kid getting traded together.
Speaker 5: Dude, Like, all I want to do is get away
Speaker 5: from Elvis Pagero and here we are. It's like, guess
Speaker 5: who's coming with motherfucker? Yeah, I think it could be
Speaker 5: really interesting. But like, okay, you say you like Jansen Junk.
Speaker 5: My follow up is, do the Brewers have any shot
Speaker 5: of winning the NL Central If Jansen Junk is throwing
Speaker 5: one hundred innings for the Milwaukee Brewers, I say no.
Speaker 5: I say this is a deal where the Angels got better.
Speaker 5: The Brewers are working more towards a rebuild that I
Speaker 5: think a lot of people were expecting at this point
Speaker 5: last year. I didn't see this rebuild coming whatsoever. I
Speaker 5: thought the Brewer's window of contention was opening. But then
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, they move Hater And I didn't
Speaker 5: hate the deal, But if you actually want to win
Speaker 5: for a couple of years, and you want your fan
Speaker 5: base to think that you want to win for a
Speaker 5: couple of years, you probably shouldn't move off Josh Hater.
Speaker 5: And now you're floating Colton Wong and now you're moving
Speaker 5: Hunter Renfro. So you've got yell Edge and a bunch
Speaker 5: of young pieces. My thought is, okay, if they're going
Speaker 5: to sell off some of those ARB three guys, Arb
Speaker 5: two guys where they're going to make ten million dollars
Speaker 5: and they suck this year, and suck as a relative term,
Speaker 5: like what if the Cubs are better? What if the
Speaker 5: Brewers finish third in the Anal Central? Do you think
Speaker 5: about moving Corbyn Burns? Do you think about moving Freddy Peralta?
Speaker 5: I have no idea what direction Milwaukee's going in right
Speaker 5: now with this move.
Speaker 3: Well, I kind of do, sort of, because they are
Speaker 3: taking calls on Corbyn Burns and Brandon Woodruff. I know
Speaker 3: the Yankees have checked in on both of them, but
Speaker 3: the price being reported is extremely high, and for good reason.
Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to move those guys. I
Speaker 3: think that's one of those offseason rumors where if you're
Speaker 3: a general manager and you need starting pitching, you're like, well,
Speaker 3: I just saw the Burush trade Renfro. I saw the
Speaker 3: Birds shade Josh Hater. I wonder if they trade Corbyn
Speaker 3: Burns and then the Birds say, yeah, we'll take Vulpi,
Speaker 3: will take Aaron Judge, and we'll take your entire team,
Speaker 3: and then the Yankees hang up the phone because it
Speaker 3: ain't happening.
Speaker 5: And it's hard. It's hard to look at David Sterns
Speaker 5: stepping down at a vacuum now like it's really hard
Speaker 5: because you see, okay, this stuff is going on with
Speaker 5: Stearns made aware that like, okay, time to blow it up,
Speaker 5: like time to save a little bit of money and.
Speaker 2: Start like are they up?
Speaker 3: Are they blowing it up?
Speaker 4: I wouldn't saylow it up, but I think maybe even
Speaker 4: the running in the wall, like hey, we're not going
Speaker 4: any higher, right, we're not spending any more money. We
Speaker 4: actually need to get under this number, and you can
Speaker 4: try to find a way to win within those parameters,
Speaker 4: right And I think Stern said, I don't know if
Speaker 4: I want to do that right now, Like I don't
Speaker 4: know if I want to grind that hard to build
Speaker 4: this back up again in different ways and reshuffle and
Speaker 4: try to get it's where you need to be.
Speaker 5: And Stern's is at the point in his career where
Speaker 5: he doesn't need to say yes to doing that. He
Speaker 5: has all a.
Speaker 4: Better opportunity elsewhere. When something comes up, he'll advise the
Speaker 4: Brewers he doesn't need to wear all of this right now,
Speaker 4: because I think there's some other moves potentially coming, and
Speaker 4: then he will get a better opportunity somewhere else. But
Speaker 4: what's most disappointing to me about it, I think is
Speaker 4: and we have to see what the Brewers ultimately do.
Speaker 4: But you know what's most disappointing if they don't, you know,
Speaker 4: make some additions or or do continue to make subtractions,
Speaker 4: is this division. I mean, now is the time, right
Speaker 4: I mean, the Cubs are going to get good in
Speaker 4: the next couple of years. I think they're gonna better
Speaker 4: next year. They're going to be good in two years.
Speaker 4: The Cardinals are great. That's the one team. But like
Speaker 4: the Reds, they're gonna get good building. They're gonna be
Speaker 4: good in a few years. After the Pirates they're gonna
Speaker 4: be good in a few years. But right now is
Speaker 4: the time. You could very easily be the second best
Speaker 4: team in the NL Central and Expanded playoffs if you
Speaker 4: put your best foot forward. And I know the Brewers
Speaker 4: are building for sustainable success and I get that, but
Speaker 4: you can get to the playoffs right now, and I
Speaker 4: don't know if they're giving themselves the best shot to
Speaker 4: do so.
Speaker 2: But we'll see.
Speaker 5: When you said the Pirates are gonna get good, I
Speaker 5: saw Peter do his little like side nod thing it's like,
Speaker 5: I don't know if the Pirates are gonna get good
Speaker 5: into that. I say, again, just moved into a one
Speaker 5: bedroom in Indy. I can give you the futon. I
Speaker 5: need you to see the future of the Pittsburgh Pirates
Speaker 5: and you are going to be enthralled. You're gonna realize
Speaker 5: that this is the best team in baseball.
Speaker 2: In three years, I hope.
Speaker 3: For example, like to Arm's point, like I was listening
Speaker 3: to your guys's stuff on the Cubs, the top ten prospects,
Speaker 3: which you guys should definitely go check out the call
Speaker 3: up arm Jack just broke down the top ten prospects.
Speaker 3: Arm was interviewing Matt Murvis to a ton of good
Speaker 3: stuff on the Cubs, and they also just played GM
Speaker 3: Like I'm very excited for the Cubs. That's one where
Speaker 3: I kind of want to scoop back on because I
Speaker 3: was like, where is this team going? But now listen
Speaker 3: to you guys, like I see where this team is going,
Speaker 3: and then you check out the Cardinals and it's like
Speaker 3: they ain't going nowhere. They're gonna be good for a
Speaker 3: very long time. When I look at the Brewers, I
Speaker 3: don't think that it's that dumb what they're doing, Like
Speaker 3: I understand Brewers fans are probably like they don't understand
Speaker 3: in the direction, and I get it, but they are
Speaker 3: offloading guys who aren't that good, like they weren't gonna
Speaker 3: pay hater anyway, So that's that's not the best. But
Speaker 3: they did get a haul and then on Rentfro like
Speaker 3: I don't think renfro' is that good and Colton Wong
Speaker 3: like where is he at in his career? So it's
Speaker 3: like these moves do make sense. That's why I don't
Speaker 3: want to call this a rebuild.
Speaker 4: So Wong and Renfro tied for second on the team
Speaker 4: in f R last year, that might be more of
Speaker 4: an indictment on the team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, win five each, right.
Speaker 3: But do you think they're that good?
Speaker 4: So I think two and a half when players are
Speaker 4: hard to are not that easy, that's fair, that's yeah.
Speaker 5: So so part of me is saying, like, okay, I
Speaker 5: agree with you, Like there are a lot better options
Speaker 5: than Hunter Renfro, but that's for sure. I would love
Speaker 5: twenty nine bombs and an eight oh seven ops and
Speaker 5: a four ninety slug.
Speaker 2: But you're not gonna get that.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying is like, he's gonna go from Milwaukee,
Speaker 3: where it's so easy to hit and he gets to
Speaker 3: face the reds in the Pirates every day to go
Speaker 3: hitting in Anaheim where it's it's a little bit harder
Speaker 3: to hit. And I think there's a little bit better
Speaker 3: pitching in that division. Like I don't think I know
Speaker 3: that with the divisions, it's also going to be scattered.
Speaker 3: You're not going to see the same schedule. But I
Speaker 3: just don't see Hunter Renfro getting better. I only see
Speaker 3: him getting worse.
Speaker 2: Okay, so HiT's a junk.
Speaker 5: I kind of like, how about a five oho one
Speaker 5: slug in an eight sixteen ops as a red sock
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty one. How about in twenty eighteen he
Speaker 5: had an eight oh five OPS and a five oh
Speaker 5: four slug in San Diego. Like he's done it at
Speaker 5: multiple spots. I understand hitter.
Speaker 2: From Ben Bay is also easy to hit.
Speaker 5: I understand hitter friendly ballpark in Boston and Milwaukee. But
Speaker 5: if Hunter Renfro is an eight hundred OPS guy, you
Speaker 5: got to value him like an eight hundred OPS guy.
Speaker 5: And in recent memory he's been an eight hund ops guy.
Speaker 3: Here's my thinking, I don't think moving forward, he is
Speaker 3: should we talk about someone who actually has an eight
Speaker 3: hundred ops who's actually a beast? And then he went
Speaker 3: to the Ashros for three years around fifty eight million
Speaker 3: dollars in Bray you, I know, dude, like I really
Speaker 3: want to unpack your vine about this because like, like,
Speaker 3: are you just in shambles? I'm seeing White Sox Twitter
Speaker 3: in shambles over this because jose Bray won the MVP
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty. He is again like fair, no, not fair,
Speaker 3: but you know, well it's about a joke about it.
Speaker 2: But jose A.
Speaker 3: Bray you has been one of the best first base
Speaker 3: in baseisball now for a while, and it's he's almost
Speaker 3: a luck to be thirty and one hundred RBIs every
Speaker 3: single year he's a run producer, and he goes to
Speaker 3: an Ashros team that the really only hole was first base.
Speaker 3: I tweeted out. I said, well, the twenty three season
Speaker 3: was fun because it appeared that even if the Ashros
Speaker 3: lose justin Verlander, they have so many good young pictures,
Speaker 3: like I'm excited to see them possibly give Hunter Brown
Speaker 3: an opportunity in the rotation. Fully, but they might not
Speaker 3: even need Hunter Brown. They might trade Hunter Brown like
Speaker 3: as a troll because they don't need them. That's how
Speaker 3: good the Ashros are. So the Asho sign Jose Bray
Speaker 3: you Jack, I want to go to you. How does
Speaker 3: it feel?
Speaker 2: Are you okay? Yeah?
Speaker 5: I'm okay. Can I pitch it to arm to actually
Speaker 5: talk about the baseball and then I'll follow with the narrative.
Speaker 3: No, No, I want to hear the narrative first, and
Speaker 3: then Arm cuped with the baseball after you, like kind
Speaker 3: of make you feel better or shit on you. I'm
Speaker 3: excited to find out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, go first, please, Yes'm I'm kind of I'm just
Speaker 4: kind of salvating right now. I just want to sit
Speaker 4: here watching open up. I really like deep down like that.
Speaker 4: I want to know how you feel. Picture him in
Speaker 4: that Astro's uniform too. Yes, Rake and Crane gives him
Speaker 4: a hug as they win their second straight World Series.
Speaker 2: White Sox wins seventy nine games next year. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So, I haven't felt much emotion in a positive or
Speaker 5: negative way in a couple of years. I think since
Speaker 5: Projective Plate launched, I've been I've been pretty just. I've
Speaker 5: been kind of a blank slate and I just let
Speaker 5: shit hit me, and I don't really react. So I
Speaker 5: saw that and I just put my phone away and
Speaker 5: I kept on doing whatever I was doing, which is
Speaker 5: probably just staring at the brick wall behind me.
Speaker 2: No way you did that.
Speaker 5: No, I wasn't in front of that brick wall when
Speaker 5: it happened, But what I was sad Like Jose bray
Speaker 5: You has been the best and the most important figure
Speaker 5: in White Sox baseball since Paul Knerko and Paul Canerko
Speaker 5: was the guy that I grew up with. There have
Speaker 5: been better players. Actually, I'll say, I bra You wont
Speaker 5: an MVP, Like I don't think there's been a better player,
Speaker 5: but you know, you look at a guy that's a
Speaker 5: surefire Hall of Famer, like already in the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 5: like Jim Tomay Right, Tomo was here with Kanerko. And
Speaker 5: was Tomy a better player than Knerico, Yeah he was,
Speaker 5: But Paul Canerko was the captain of the White Sox.
Speaker 5: In this post Knerko world, the captain of the White
Speaker 5: Sox has been Jose A.
Speaker 2: Bray You.
Speaker 5: A lot of that is because of how Cuban and
Speaker 5: how Latin this team is jose A braw and I'm
Speaker 5: gonna caught out are from the same town in Cuba.
Speaker 5: Luis Robert is Cuban. Yes, Moni Grandal is Cuban. You
Speaker 5: think about the Latin influence on this team, they didn't
Speaker 5: have a guy that identifies with them. They had it
Speaker 5: with Rick Renteria, but then they fired him after the
Speaker 5: twenty twenty season, and they brought in Tony Larusa. Who's
Speaker 5: going to help coach this young, fun, talented Latin team
Speaker 5: And the answer was kind of jose abray You. So
Speaker 5: he was an excellent player. He is an excellent player.
Speaker 5: He's thirty and one hundred every year, like you're saying.
Speaker 5: But he was so much more to the White Sox
Speaker 5: than I think a lot of guys are to their team.
Speaker 5: He was actually the captain of the White Sox, and
Speaker 5: it's gonna be really weird to see him in a
Speaker 5: different uniform.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 5: Having said that and noting that, I'm going to be
Speaker 5: really sad when I see jose A bray You in
Speaker 5: that Astro's jersey. And I think the Astros and White
Speaker 5: Sox open up against each other in the twenty season
Speaker 5: opening day, is gonna be Dylan Ces against Josea Bray
Speaker 5: in the first inning or second inning, like that's gonna
Speaker 5: be insane club, It will make me sad. It was
Speaker 5: time to move off of jose A Bray you because
Speaker 5: you were sacrificing so much elsewhere. You had Gavin Sheets
Speaker 5: playing the shittiest right field in baseball. You had Andrew
Speaker 5: Vaughan playing the shittiest outfield, not just left field, playing
Speaker 5: the shittiest outfield and hurting himself and hurting himself several times.
Speaker 5: You've got Eloi Jimenez hurting himself while he tries to
Speaker 5: rob a home run that's twenty feet over the fence.
Speaker 2: He tears it.
Speaker 5: Back and then they hang his jersey and he goes
Speaker 5: to heaven like that. That's what the White Sox were doing.
Speaker 5: They were putting a bunch of non corner outfielders in
Speaker 5: corner outfield spots because they had the first basement of
Speaker 5: their franchise. Now that guy's gone, So what's gonna happen here?
Speaker 5: I think Elloy Jimenez ca in DH now when Andrew
Speaker 5: Vaughan's playing first, or maybe Gavin Sheets can can d
Speaker 5: H when he's not, you know, throwing up on himself
Speaker 5: in right field. I think that some good is going
Speaker 5: to come out of this. I think that there was
Speaker 5: It was time to move off of that and get
Speaker 5: young blood at positions in which they are most comfortable.
Speaker 5: But to do that you had to sacrifice your team
Speaker 5: captain in the face of the franchise for the last decade.
Speaker 3: Arm You know, he's kind of right, like if you
Speaker 3: think about it, getting Gavin Sheets some more, AB's moving
Speaker 3: Andravon to first base, like the White Tux might be
Speaker 3: better next year without Josea Brady. Don't you kind of
Speaker 3: agree like that? Yeah, there is there is more good.
Speaker 2: Than bad out of this. That was gonna be my
Speaker 2: next question.
Speaker 4: So I I understand what Jack is saying, because they
Speaker 4: had to figure something out and whether that was going
Speaker 4: to be, you know, trading Adravon and trading Sheets doing
Speaker 4: something else. I don't know, trading Eloy, but they'd be
Speaker 4: selling low. They w had to figure out something to
Speaker 4: less in the logjam because everything that we made fun of,
Speaker 4: like made fun of for the Phillies doing defensively, the
Speaker 4: White Sox did that but with worse offense.
Speaker 2: So it was like, at what point are you going
Speaker 2: to make a change?
Speaker 4: Here, and obviously you know they made a competitive offer
Speaker 4: to a braw they would have found a way to
Speaker 4: make it work at the right price, but ultimately the
Speaker 4: Astros paid a lot of money here, So you let
Speaker 4: ebray you walk, because if you're making the decision, it's
Speaker 4: not worth meeting that asking price for them because they
Speaker 4: still would have had things to figure out. I think
Speaker 4: it's very important to Getvon at first base to think
Speaker 4: he's going to hit way better next year. I don't
Speaker 4: give a shit about Gavin Sheets, to be honest, I
Speaker 4: think Oscar Colas could leap frog him by early next
Speaker 4: season in terms of talent. But I also understand you know,
Speaker 4: being able to get him a little bit more comfortable
Speaker 4: and not as frequently in the outfield. But my question is,
Speaker 4: is Jack okay? You just lost Even though he didn't
Speaker 4: hit thirty home runs last year, he had one of
Speaker 4: his best K to BB seasons and was one of
Speaker 4: the most consistent bat to ball seasons he's had and
Speaker 4: still hit the ball as hard as ever. You lose
Speaker 4: that and you now have a wide open gap. At second,
Speaker 4: you're hoping Gavin Sheets performs, and right you're hoping Eloy
Speaker 4: Jimenez performs in West Left. You're you're hoping Louise, Robert
Speaker 4: and Jimenez play and make that leap.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: Tim Anderson, you know, is one of the few sure things.
Speaker 4: You're hoping Mancatta bounces back. You don't really have a
Speaker 4: catcher because Grondal was one of the worst players in
Speaker 4: baseball last year. Like, how does this team improve? You
Speaker 4: just lost your best player and the rest of them
Speaker 4: are big question marks.
Speaker 5: Yeah, how did I say this team improves?
Speaker 2: That's how?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 5: Did I say that?
Speaker 2: They But I didn't say I didn't say that. You
Speaker 2: said that.
Speaker 4: I'm asking you because the job is to get your
Speaker 4: team better, and this is not a team that is rebuilding.
Speaker 4: If it is, they should have traded everybody or not.
Speaker 4: So is Rome Gonzalez playing second?
Speaker 5: I don't think they get better like that. That that's
Speaker 5: the thing. I think they put together a worse year
Speaker 5: this year.
Speaker 2: So what's the plan.
Speaker 5: I don't know what the plan is. I seriously have
Speaker 5: no idea what the plan is. Like they're gonna run
Speaker 5: out the same exact roster there, what are they gonna.
Speaker 2: Burn it the hell down? Yeah?
Speaker 5: I kind of think so, I mean, what are you
Speaker 5: gonna do right now, Luis Roberts your center field or
Speaker 5: you're not gonna make the move for Nimo like you're
Speaker 5: not gonna pay that? Are you gonna pay Confordo and
Speaker 5: have Sheets d h When Grendal can hardly fucking move
Speaker 5: anymore and you've got money tied up with him like it,
Speaker 5: It doesn't make much sense to me. There are too
Speaker 5: many holes you mentioned. They have no second basement. Who's
Speaker 5: gonna catch when Grendal's not catching? And Grendal has not
Speaker 5: proven that he can be on the field for one
Speaker 5: hundred and thirty games a year, one hundred and forty
Speaker 5: games a year in recent years. There are so many problems.
Speaker 4: So I gotta make a trade. Make a trade to
Speaker 4: make McCarthy, Jacob McCarthy. They need a Jake McCarthy.
Speaker 5: They they do need somebody like that. Hell, go get
Speaker 5: Alec Thomas, whose dad was the strength and conditioning coach
Speaker 5: for the White Sox girls.
Speaker 4: Respectfully, can you can you shut up about Gavin Sheets Me, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: shack on four to eleven slash line with the worst
Speaker 4: defense of all time.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying he's good.
Speaker 2: It's a fucking problem.
Speaker 5: I don't want Sheets in the lineup?
Speaker 4: Okay, so then why are we like, why are we saying, oh, well,
Speaker 4: now you can get him.
Speaker 2: Out of the outfield, like, yeah, because I get him.
Speaker 5: Shit, if Gavin Sheets is gonna be in the lineup,
Speaker 5: I'd rather he's not dropping balls in right, I'd rather
Speaker 5: he's at first DA.
Speaker 2: All right, that has to be there.
Speaker 5: Let me just say, hindsight's twenty twenty. But were we
Speaker 5: not areum? You and I had this conversation. Were we
Speaker 5: not begging the White Sox to trade Jose Bray at
Speaker 5: the deadline? Yes, we were begging the White Sox to
Speaker 5: trade Jose Bray with the deadline. It's the Manny Machado conversation.
Speaker 5: What's gonna happen? You're gonna piss off the fan base,
Speaker 5: but you can try and get something in return. Obviously
Speaker 5: Baltimore got nothing for Machiado, but they got something as
Speaker 5: opposed to just seeing him walk like that is so brutal.
Speaker 5: What do we get here at draft pick? I mean,
Speaker 5: that is such a good one for the White Sox.
Speaker 5: The White Sox were a World Series favorite. They were
Speaker 5: arguably the favorite to come out of the American League
Speaker 5: not named the Astros in the preseason this past year.
Speaker 5: Turns out everybody's made of glass. Like there are so
Speaker 5: many fundamental problems with the Chicago White Sox they can't
Speaker 5: fix it. I do think that it was the right
Speaker 5: move to let a bray You walk because Andrew Vaughan
Speaker 5: is one of the few sure things you have in
Speaker 5: the lineup, and getting him back at first base should
Speaker 5: ease a lot of his mental stress on a daily basis.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 5: Everything else I don't really like.
Speaker 3: That's awnome and just to quickly go over to the
Speaker 3: Ashro side. They got really good and they're just they're
Speaker 3: so so good. Jeremy Painnat Short, Bregman at third, I'll
Speaker 3: two second. Then you put Jose bray You in that infield.
Speaker 3: It's on the belief it's gonna be one of the best.
Speaker 4: That could be one of the best offenses if everything
Speaker 4: clicks the way, and I know there's a lot of
Speaker 4: things that can happen, but if everything goes the way
Speaker 4: it possibly can, that could be one of the best
Speaker 4: offenses we've seen in decades.
Speaker 3: The World Series champion who kind of didn't win it easily,
Speaker 3: but I mean they were pretty much in command for
Speaker 3: most of the series. Yeah, just added an MVP caliber
Speaker 3: type first baseman. Is he the same player he was
Speaker 3: two years ago, three years ago? Probably not, but he's
Speaker 3: still gonna get his and he's gonna be a difference
Speaker 3: maker in that Astros lineup back to the White Sox.
Speaker 3: So you tell me that they aren't trying to get better.
Speaker 3: I kind of like the deal for Cleveger at twelve million,
Speaker 3: one year deal. I don't mind it. And the only
Speaker 3: reason I don't mind it is because I think you're
Speaker 3: buying low right now and he's shown flashes of being
Speaker 3: a good pitcher. Now will he be a good picture?
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I think twelve million dollars is
Speaker 3: worth it to see. So that's why I like, Yeah,
Speaker 3: am I gonna sit here and tell you, Wow, what
Speaker 3: is signing?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: Am I gonna say? When I saw the number, I
Speaker 3: thought to myself, I do that? I no, I Well,
Speaker 3: it's no. I don't think it's it's a bad deal
Speaker 3: to see if he is something, because I think he
Speaker 3: still could be something.
Speaker 4: Would you rather have Matt Boyd? Yeah, exactly, an alien
Speaker 4: or Clevenger.
Speaker 3: At twelve That's why it's like Matt Boyd again, we
Speaker 3: can just keep going through these signings because it's not
Speaker 3: the most sexy signings in the world. Matt Boyd signed
Speaker 3: for ten million dollars UH to the Detroit Tigers. Nice
Speaker 3: little reunion there. He threw thirteen inhaust year. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't understand that. But if you're telling me I had
Speaker 3: to pay two million dollars more from Mike Clevenger, I mean, Jack,
Speaker 3: that's objectively good, subjectively good, right.
Speaker 2: He just doesn't like Clevenger. Yeah, I don't like Clevenger.
Speaker 5: I also think that Clevenger is has lost more than
Speaker 5: a tick. Like Clevenger was sitting ninety five to three
Speaker 5: last time he toted a rubber pre Tommy John. He
Speaker 5: was ninety three to five this year. Yeah, that's a problem.
Speaker 5: I think that, yes, he can build back up. We'll
Speaker 5: see how this offseason is. I know that he wears
Speaker 5: a lot of floral shorts during his bullpens, and maybe
Speaker 5: he's gearing up and he's throwing gas again. I don't
Speaker 5: know what kind of my Clevenger we're going to see.
Speaker 5: I do think that it can work out well. I
Speaker 5: didn't like the twelve number, but now that Matt Boyd
Speaker 5: comes in at ten. I don't really mind the twelve number.
Speaker 5: I was thinking, oh my god, six or seven should
Speaker 5: be like six or seven is okay, twelve is egregious,
Speaker 5: But then Matt Boyd getting ten is egregious. So I'm like,
Speaker 5: it's the market, baby, Okay, that's the market. That's the market,
Speaker 5: and I just I hadn't really understood what the market was,
Speaker 5: and now I understand what the market is, and I'm
Speaker 5: okay with that number. Because what Cindergard got twenty one
Speaker 5: last year?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this is worth it. I think, wouldn't
Speaker 3: you agree this is objectively a good deal?
Speaker 4: Matt Boyd put it in perspective, I mean I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't love it, but like, if that's what the
Speaker 4: going rate is, it's it's a good one year shot
Speaker 4: to take. Yeah, it's a good one year shot to take.
Speaker 4: It's not like he's the worst picture on planet Earth.
Speaker 4: Like he was decent and he can he can be good.
Speaker 4: It's worth You're gonna You're gonna vomit at what Drew
Speaker 4: Richinski gets when he comes over.
Speaker 3: I think Mike Clevenger led the Padres to the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it was all him.
Speaker 5: No, he didn't he had a four to three in
Speaker 5: one hundred and fourteen innings. I know that he wasn't
Speaker 5: healthy at the beginning of the year. He was still
Speaker 5: working his way back to TJ. Yeah, and ask you
Speaker 5: one thing.
Speaker 3: If he gives you that exact production next year, is
Speaker 3: that worth twelve million?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: I think it might be.
Speaker 3: What's Matt Boyd can give you four to seven and
Speaker 3: something like that. He's a left Yeah, but that's a
Speaker 3: free win for the White Sox. It's the only guys
Speaker 3: they can hit, and he goes in their division.
Speaker 2: That's perfect. There's three wins right there for you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that works.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I guess my thing is like, you just need guys
Speaker 5: that eat innings, like this team needed Johnny Quato so
Speaker 5: badly in twenty twenty two because he would just go
Speaker 5: out there and give them six or seven. And Clevenger
Speaker 5: is just the antithesis of that. You can't you can't
Speaker 5: be promised five anytime he gets on the hill. So
Speaker 5: that was my big issue with this. They needed dependability
Speaker 5: and they got the opposite of dependability. Now it is
Speaker 5: like taking best available in the draft at that price point.
Speaker 5: You see the name Clevenger in a pool with guys
Speaker 5: like Matt Boyd. It's like, shit, I'm gonna take the
Speaker 5: one that was great two years ago, so I think
Speaker 5: that is the good move.
Speaker 2: I also just personally don't.
Speaker 5: Like Clevenger, like with with the way he handled the
Speaker 5: teammate thing. I don't care if he was, you know,
Speaker 5: like vaxed, unvaxxed, you know, doing the whole thing during
Speaker 5: that twenty twenty season, but the way that he tried
Speaker 5: to like almost gaslight his teammates and then he got
Speaker 5: caught like going out in Chicago. That wasn't a good
Speaker 5: teammate move. It was like a Pola sac thing. That
Speaker 5: was not a good teammate move. So we'll see how
Speaker 5: good of a teammate he is. It's a really young staff.
Speaker 5: I would like positive influences on a guy like Dylan
Speaker 5: Cees and Michael Kopek, but you're probably getting that with
Speaker 5: Lucas Giolito, who's already been to hell and back and
Speaker 5: is in hell again in his career. And then lance
Speaker 5: Lynn has you know, been around the block several times,
Speaker 5: so I would I would like a bit higher character,
Speaker 5: bit more dependable guy. The White Sox didn't get either
Speaker 5: of those things. But it's Mike Clevenger. It's Mike cleven Drawer.
Speaker 4: So can we talk about the Diamondbacks being reportably interested
Speaker 4: in Xander Bogart's.
Speaker 3: Yes, Wait before we get to the rumor mill, because
Speaker 3: I kind of want to end it with that. Let's
Speaker 3: go over a few small moves. Pirates signed Carlos Santana.
Speaker 3: That's well between there.
Speaker 2: They're going for it.
Speaker 3: Would you mentory? So I get what you guys are saying,
Speaker 3: by the Pirates are gonna be really good. Carlsontanna still
Speaker 3: walks anything else that that's.
Speaker 4: The biggest signing they've made since what Daniel Hudson in
Speaker 4: twenty fifteen.
Speaker 5: Yes, would you count the Cabrian Hayes extension, no free
Speaker 5: agent signing, biggest free agents signing they've made.
Speaker 2: Dang pretty bad? Getting better? All right?
Speaker 3: End of that segment. Doctors ad Shelby Miller good, he's
Speaker 3: got he's got good data. I'm telling you, he's got
Speaker 3: good data. He figured something out. I watch out. If
Speaker 3: he's healthy, watch out. I'm not even got fastball will
Speaker 3: release point. It's it's taken off like they saw something.
Speaker 2: I agree. If he's healthy, he's gonna be tough.
Speaker 5: Shelby Miller being thirty two years old is mind numbing.
Speaker 5: I thought he was forty.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, since he's a dude, supposed to be a dude.
Speaker 3: And if you remember, Shelby Miller traded for one shorts
Speaker 3: up that is also on the market, any Swatson. So yeah,
Speaker 3: Shelby Miller. Expect him in the ulcer game next year.
Speaker 3: For the Los Angeles Dodgers the Nationals, they signed highmer
Speaker 3: Candelario five years or excuse me, one year, five million dollars. Uh,
Speaker 3: he sucked last year, but like he's uh, he can
Speaker 3: play still. I think it's actually kind of a fine signing.
Speaker 2: I've never like. Yeah, I like that one.
Speaker 5: I'd rather have a bounce back audition at five million
Speaker 5: than twelve million for a pitcher.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: The cool thing for them is you know that their
Speaker 4: system kind of stinks and kind of if candel Ario performs,
Speaker 4: you trade them at the deadline in flux of prospects.
Speaker 2: I like it. Yeah, I agree to. And they also
Speaker 2: grab Stone Garrett. They also grabbed Stone Garrett that's agreed.
Speaker 4: Last year and and showed some good things in the
Speaker 4: big leagues and know they're good flyer to take Nationals
Speaker 4: are cooking.
Speaker 3: I like, I like putting it into the perspective that way.
Speaker 3: It's it's about getting these guys. Hopefully they have a
Speaker 3: good first half and then you can flip them for
Speaker 3: pro aspects. Yeah, I think it's a very good. That's
Speaker 3: kind of what I thought the Diamondbacks did last year
Speaker 3: with Milanceton. But Milance which is terrible, so they couldn't
Speaker 3: get anything for him, but they saign him to a
Speaker 3: two year deal, which is actually kind of stun with
Speaker 3: the Diambacks, he's given another chance, right.
Speaker 2: Guys, Well, uh, that is about it.
Speaker 3: That's about all the moves that have happened anything relevant.
Speaker 3: H So let's talk about some rumors and let's start
Speaker 3: with the Dumbbacks and Xanderboguards.
Speaker 4: Are Yeah, I don't know. I just I think it's
Speaker 4: a little bit you got to take everything with grain
Speaker 4: of salt. But if they are truly interested, it's it's
Speaker 4: kind of a sign of the direction they're heading in, right.
Speaker 4: I think the Diamondbacks feel pretty good about where they're headed.
Speaker 4: I talked about them earlier as like my I think
Speaker 4: the surprise team for next year, obviously it wouldn't be
Speaker 4: as much of a surprise if they go get to
Speaker 4: Xander Bogarts, but it's it's kind of the one position
Speaker 4: offensively that they're really missing. You ad Xander to the
Speaker 4: fold there, that is a good, good team offensively. I
Speaker 4: think that'd be a really fun group if if the
Speaker 4: pitching can come together, that's that's a sneaky team. I
Speaker 4: just like to see the d Backs being in you know,
Speaker 4: buy mode, are a little bit more aggressive, and I
Speaker 4: think the fact that they didn't trade Christian Walker, that
Speaker 4: they didn't trade basically anybody not named David Peralta or
Speaker 4: any like of those you know, rental type veterans, is
Speaker 4: an indication of what they're looking to do and what
Speaker 4: they're looking to build on the firm there in Arizona.
Speaker 5: They're fun man that like, that is a fun roster.
Speaker 5: As of right now, the outfield configures Carol Varshow and
Speaker 5: McCarthy and the corners would be Christian Walker and Josh
Speaker 5: Rojas for Emanuel Rivera and the middle endfield if they
Speaker 5: do go for Bogarts, would be Kittel Marte at second
Speaker 5: and Xander Bogart's up the middle. That's a great middield.
Speaker 2: Carson Kelly behind the dish.
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, And then you've got great pitch like I
Speaker 5: love what they're doing pitching wise. Madison Bumguarder. That sucks
Speaker 5: that he's still in that rotation, but he's got to
Speaker 5: be financially. But when you can run out a Gallon
Speaker 5: and a Meryl Kelly at the top, when you when
Speaker 5: you look at Vets, obviously Kelly more Vet than Gallen is,
Speaker 5: but Gallen is one of the star pitchers in this league.
Speaker 5: And then you've got young guys that you can continually
Speaker 5: audition in Ryan Nelson, in Dre Jamison, in Brandon Fott.
Speaker 5: At the beginning of next year. I think they're in
Speaker 5: a really good position to succeed.
Speaker 3: Another team that is interested in Santa Bogarts is the
Speaker 3: San Diego Padres, which I thought was kind of interesting
Speaker 3: because you also obviously have Fernando Tatis Junior coming back
Speaker 3: from his ped suspension, but he will not be available
Speaker 3: opening day, and they're thinking is that with Jerkson profar
Speaker 3: he's a free agent now that if he possibly leaves
Speaker 3: said possibly you can move around has young Kim. I
Speaker 3: just saw that Aj Preller has made some noise about
Speaker 3: Xander Bogart's jack You are shaking your head.
Speaker 5: No, cut the dumb assery AJ Preller. I mean, you're
Speaker 5: already moving a shortstop in Fernando time or to the
Speaker 5: outfield to make room for another shortstop has Sung Kim,
Speaker 5: who impressed in twenty twenty two. It's not like you
Speaker 5: can put Bogart's at third, Machado's there. It's not like
Speaker 5: you're gonna put Bogart's at second. Croninworth is there, like
Speaker 5: there there is not much space for Xander Bogarts in
Speaker 5: the San Diego padres plants. I think a J Preler
Speaker 5: just wants to be on an on anybody because hey,
Speaker 5: he's gonna obliterate the farm and he's gonna spend a
Speaker 5: shit ton of money.
Speaker 2: Like that's fun. That's AJ classic AJ classic age.
Speaker 3: So the report says that they would possibly moves on
Speaker 3: Kim to second and then Cronworth the first.
Speaker 5: I think you're diminishing Croninworth's value. Now I don't think
Speaker 5: they care, but I think Croninworth is a is a
Speaker 5: good middle.
Speaker 2: First is just like good, what do we do when
Speaker 2: the Yankees?
Speaker 3: It's like when the Yankees put DJ Lemahew at first,
Speaker 3: It's like, what are you doing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a now he's now he's an average offensive
Speaker 4: first baseman.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Another rumor that I thought was very telling. We
Speaker 3: talk about the Cardinals and their search for these big
Speaker 3: name free agents. John Moseelock in a telephone conversation. This
Speaker 3: is from Ken Rosenthal. He said, Tommy Edmund is a
Speaker 3: very very good shortstop. Now does that rule them out
Speaker 3: completely of signing a big time shortstop?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: But is that telling?
Speaker 3: Is that telling in the sense that they think that
Speaker 3: Tommy Edmund will be their opening day shortstop next year?
Speaker 3: You know, it's hard to fully read in to these
Speaker 3: quotes from these guys in on December first, second, whatever
Speaker 3: day today is. But that is something arm does that
Speaker 3: It's interesting.
Speaker 4: I'm just surprised that they're you know, even considering that.
Speaker 4: I think, you know what you're gonna get from Edmond
Speaker 4: offensively a shortstop. It's more it's more of a second
Speaker 4: baseman's production, I would say. And he's an elite, elite
Speaker 4: defender at second you know, maybe he's a pretty good defender,
Speaker 4: a good defender at short I'm not in the business
Speaker 4: of diminishing the value of a guy at another position
Speaker 4: to try to stretch him out a bit more at
Speaker 4: shortstop when you can just go get a shortstop, like
Speaker 4: we've been begging the Cardinals, who have done a great job.
Speaker 4: Of course, I'm Moselo's one of the best in the
Speaker 4: business and has been for a long time. But like,
Speaker 4: stop getting cute with it. Just go go every once
Speaker 4: in a while, it's okay to make the splash. Make
Speaker 4: the splash, keep Tommy Edmond at second and go get
Speaker 4: a short stop.
Speaker 2: I guess they don't. They don't want to block.
Speaker 4: Guys maybe, and that's always been kind of their prerogative,
Speaker 4: but Mason Winn's not going to be there for a
Speaker 4: year or two. At least you're not worried about block
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be worried about blocking guys.
Speaker 2: Go get a short stop.
Speaker 5: You just spent the majority of the year in double
Speaker 5: A though, like he'll be in triple to open the year,
Speaker 5: and he performed in double A. That's the other thing.
Speaker 2: And they have Gorman.
Speaker 5: Maybe they feel like win is I mean, you're not
Speaker 5: giving up on Gorman yet, right, like you nihle ahead
Speaker 5: like that, But you know, if the Miritors have held
Speaker 5: out with his Kelnikicks experience experience for this long experiment
Speaker 5: for this long then then you're obviously gonna hold out
Speaker 5: for half the time with Nolan Gorman and we're.
Speaker 2: Not Gorman already showed better things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I guess then, Yeah, save the money
Speaker 4: and and just hope that win can come up. Picking
Speaker 4: tribute Edmond plays well at second base, like as I
Speaker 4: don't know, I just I don't I don't love I
Speaker 4: don't love that.
Speaker 3: I feel like they can spend very he said, very
Speaker 3: very good, Like you didn't have to add the second.
Speaker 2: Very right, Yeah, you did add a second ary.
Speaker 3: A second ary. That's that's reading in between the lines,
Speaker 3: that's why.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, and if you have Mason win at second that's
Speaker 4: pretty electric.
Speaker 2: That was a pretty electric metal infield right there.
Speaker 4: But base, Yeah, he's gonna kill Goldie. He's gonna throw
Speaker 4: him a hundred min hour fastball from thirty feet away,
Speaker 4: like murder him. I got throws a one on one
Speaker 4: across the diamond. But yeah, I'm interested to see what
Speaker 4: they do because they've set themselves up really nicely. But
Speaker 4: spend on something, spent on pitching please, yes, great, there's
Speaker 4: so much money freed up now.
Speaker 3: Yes, speaking of one hundred minin hour Fastballs, last roomber
Speaker 3: of the day, Jacob de Gram per Andy Martine of
Speaker 3: S and Y. The Rays picking up the phone saying,
Speaker 3: what's up, Jacob de Gram? How's it going? They are
Speaker 3: reportedly interested in adding Jacob de Gram, which I find
Speaker 3: very interesting. And Jack was the one who kind of
Speaker 3: loves this.
Speaker 2: Jack.
Speaker 5: I'll say my piece on this real quick. Ryan Finkelstein,
Speaker 5: managing editor, put it best in a tweet no state
Speaker 5: income tax. De Gram is a Florida boy, went to Stetson.
Speaker 5: And my thought is the Rays don't pick up the
Speaker 5: phone on big ticket guys often, so when they do,
Speaker 5: I feel like there's something to you know, peak your
Speaker 5: ear in a little bit deeper and say, Wall, what
Speaker 5: are you saying to Jacob de Gram? So I think
Speaker 5: that there's some serious validity to that. Do you think
Speaker 5: the Rays like his pitch data?
Speaker 4: And you know, I think the data looks pretty good.
Speaker 4: It's a pretty good fastball, pretty good slider.
Speaker 2: I think they like it.
Speaker 4: They're geniuses, man, they really know what they're looking for
Speaker 4: and they really like to Grom.
Speaker 2: I mean that.
Speaker 4: My mom knows that the pitch Dad is good under Grom.
Speaker 2: No, I'll say all I'll say on this is I agree.
Speaker 4: I mean, they're not one of those teams that like
Speaker 4: fakes the rumor mill to you know, to kind of
Speaker 4: keep the relevancy alive and put up the facade that
Speaker 4: they're going to spend. When they would called on Freeman,
Speaker 4: I think they were very serious about it. It just
Speaker 4: got priced out by the Dodgers. He is from that area.
Speaker 4: I think he's from DeLand, not too far away. It
Speaker 4: could make sense, but I would really wonder what that
Speaker 4: would look like. Maybe he does a short term deal,
Speaker 4: a show medial, and then hits free agency again after
Speaker 4: just dominating. I'm very curious to see what that structure
Speaker 4: would look like.
Speaker 3: Imagine Jacob Grom making fifty million dollars a year and
Speaker 3: then the rest of the team makes fifty million dollars
Speaker 3: a year.
Speaker 2: So that'll do for this episode. It's worth it.
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