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Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants. Let's not Giants

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Speaker 1: on my Giants, give me some join part of the

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Speaker 1: Giants podcast network. Let's welcome to the Friday edition of

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Speaker 1: the Giants Little Podcast, brought to you by Citizens, the

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Speaker 1: official bank of the New York Giants. I'm John Schmulck.

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Speaker 1: Always my favorite episode of the week. Three different interviews

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Speaker 1: coming your way today. The head coach of the Giants,

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Speaker 1: Brian Dable, will be interviewed by the Voice of the Giants,

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Speaker 1: Bob Papa Lance Medal with a deep look at the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills with Vic Carucci, and then we're gonna lead

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Speaker 1: off with my interview with a Giants player. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: start off with my conversation with Giants safety Xavier McKinney.

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Speaker 1: We're joined by Giants safety Zavier McKinney. Say, how you doing, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm good man. How you doing all right? What's the

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Speaker 1: morale been like here? Obviously it's been a rough go

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Speaker 1: to start the year. How's the team keeping things together

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Speaker 1: in the locker room?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's been uplifting. Everybody's spirits have been high.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: We come into the building each and every day just

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Speaker 2: ready to work and see what we can improve and

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Speaker 2: you know, be able to change the results on on

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Speaker 2: Sundays or whatever day we play. But it's been good.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: We we know we have in this building, we know

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Speaker 2: we have on this team, and you know, we're just

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Speaker 2: gonna keep working and keep building.

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Speaker 1: As a guy who's a leader on this team, young veteran,

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Speaker 1: how are you keeping spirits up and also just confidence

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Speaker 1: up that you guys are continuing to believe in what

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Speaker 1: you're trying to do and believing in themselves.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think you know, for me, I've seen a lot

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Speaker 2: in this in this in this league. Yeah, I've been through,

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Speaker 2: you know, the worst of times. I've been through some

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Speaker 2: good times. So just kind of understanding and explaining to

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Speaker 2: you know, everybody else in the ability, especially the younger guys,

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Speaker 2: like you know, it's still the early season.

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Speaker 5: We still got a lot of time left.

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Speaker 2: And although despite all the you know, different things outside

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Speaker 2: things that you hear, like, you know, anything can happen

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Speaker 2: in any given any given season, in any given game.

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Speaker 2: So uh, I just kind of come into that mindset

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Speaker 2: of making sure that we prepared her right away, making

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Speaker 2: sure everybody's locked in and folkus making sure that you know,

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Speaker 2: we're we're sharp mentally and then going out there and

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Speaker 2: being able to execute.

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Speaker 1: So I guess that this is a wider question. There's

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Speaker 1: probably no easy answer to it, but I'll ask it anyway.

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Speaker 1: What has to change for the results to start changing?

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Speaker 5: I think we just got to keep doing we've been doing. Honestly.

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, obviously we want the results to

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Speaker 2: be different on game days. But to me, I think

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Speaker 2: we've done a great job of preparing each and every week.

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Speaker 2: I think we've done a great job of you know,

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Speaker 2: being in meetings and and going through different different different things,

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Speaker 2: meeting with each other, making sure that we're all on

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Speaker 2: the same page. We just gotta uh make sure you know,

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Speaker 2: when those you know, those game days come, Uh, we

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Speaker 2: got to have a different level of intensity and and

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Speaker 2: and you know change the results come come game day.

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Speaker 2: So I think it's just all about doing the uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, all those things that we prepare and say

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Speaker 1: So when you went back and you watched the tip

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Speaker 1: of the Mammi game, what what were your major takeaways

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Speaker 1: from you guys on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, uh, for us defensively, I thought, obviously

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Speaker 2: we wanted turnovers, and we got those, uh, but we

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Speaker 2: we still had some Uh there was a lot of

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Speaker 2: still gotta you know, be better better with our angles

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Speaker 5: So uh, still just the little things.

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Speaker 2: That we got to correct and we've been working, you know,

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Speaker 5: So that's all it, you know, boils down to.

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Speaker 1: So it's with the good part of the film first.

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Speaker 1: What made the difference finally getting on the board with

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Speaker 1: those three takeaways.

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously it was a huge difference. And obviously

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Speaker 1: And you the first one with the punch out, Yeah, they'll.

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Speaker 2: They'll keep stacking as we go. We just got to

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Speaker 2: we just got to keep keep making those turnovers, keep

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Speaker 2: And you know, just like I said, take better angles

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Speaker 1: Yes, you might have already answered this question with the angles.

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Speaker 1: How do you cut down on the big plays because

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Speaker 1: obviously last year, I remember we talked in the spring, right,

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Speaker 1: a great job of preventing big plays through the air

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Speaker 1: fix that both running game, man pass game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, you know, just making sure that everybody's

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Speaker 2: all eleven and running to the ball, making sure that

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Speaker 2: you know, if the first person don't get him down,

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Speaker 2: making sure that next person is there to get them

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Speaker 2: down immediately. So just being better as a collective groups,

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Speaker 2: as a unit. And we know that and we see that,

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Speaker 2: and like I said, we've been working on it and

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Speaker 2: make sure that we can get them done.

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Speaker 5: You know, come game.

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Speaker 2: They just so it's not the first time that we're

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Speaker 2: actually doing it. We're making sure that we do it

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so I think I'm seeing it on a film,

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Speaker 1: but I want to get your take. Watching from your

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Speaker 1: hitting a stride the last couple of weeks, reading quick,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, No, Bobby's been great for us.

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Speaker 5: He's a hell of a leader.

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Speaker 2: He's a guy on the field where you know, he's

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Speaker 2: super comfortable, you know, as a just you know, defensively,

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Speaker 2: he's been great for us. Obviously, he's been calling the

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 2: He's been balling, and and you know, obviously, you know,

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Speaker 2: me and him, we push each other and we try

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Speaker 2: playing alongside him for sure.

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Speaker 1: And same relationship with Pinnock, I would assume obviously you

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Speaker 1: played with him a lot last year Jay Love was

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Speaker 1: your main running mate, but you guys played three safeties

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Speaker 1: a ton too, So what has it been like growing

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Speaker 1: chemistry and belief with him? So you guys, can you know,

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Speaker 1: secondary to prevent some of those big plays you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think, you know, as a unit,

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Speaker 2: we got we got a lot of uh, great skill

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Speaker 2: So it's been good man overall. Obviously we got we

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Speaker 2: still got some room to grow. But you know, like

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Speaker 2: I said, it's a long season. So as we go

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Speaker 2: through these games, we go through practices, we'll get better

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Speaker 2: and we'll you know, keep the chemistry kind of will

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Speaker 2: and execute and play well.

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Speaker 1: How have the young quarterbacks been rolling with the punches?

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Speaker 1: You know, because young corners they're gonna give up plays. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: then you know, DK Metcalf does a little ropid dope

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Speaker 1: on Deontay puts them asleep a little bit. Then Trey

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Speaker 1: gets stuck one on one on press coverage on Tyreek

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Speaker 1: to look, that could happen to anybody.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's ty Retail, right.

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Speaker 1: But how those guys kind of rolled with some of

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Speaker 5: They've been great.

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Speaker 2: They never get discouraged. You know, they're they're always you know,

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Speaker 2: they never they never get discouraged no matter what. And

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Speaker 2: like you said, like playing DV, I mean, it's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna get scored on, you know, at some point

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Speaker 2: gotta have that, you know, next play mentality. And I

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Speaker 2: a Dori, just having pushing those guys and making sure

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Speaker 5: It's been great.

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Speaker 1: Wink As was asked about that play today on the

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Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill Deepon and he said it was a schematic

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Speaker 1: thing that you guys addressed this week. Obviously, you guys

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Speaker 1: teams can kind of take advantage of that later on.

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Speaker 1: But when you went through that, were you guys able

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Speaker 1: to figure out what went wrong and then what you

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Speaker 1: need to do to correct that movie?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure. We I mean we knew on the field. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: we know in the field what happens.

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Speaker 1: So is that a deal with just like a formation

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Speaker 1: on the offense and the way they do things kind

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Speaker 1: of just put you guys in a bad spot with

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Speaker 1: your rules.

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Speaker 2: Nah, not really. It was something very very simple, very simple.

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Speaker 2: So we just, like I said, little things will get

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Speaker 2: corrected and move on.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the opponent this week. Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen's a different dude, very different than the quarterbacks you

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Speaker 1: face this year. What makes him such a challenge both

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Speaker 1: with his arm and his legs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a he's an excellent improviser. He's a guy

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Speaker 2: that's that's really great on the run. Uh, he could

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Speaker 2: sit back in the pocket. He can make plays obviously,

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Speaker 2: like you said, with his legs, he's big, he's like

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Speaker 2: big bend, but athletic.

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Speaker 5: He could, he's got a rocket for arm.

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Speaker 2: So just all around, he's a great quarterback man and

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Speaker 2: we have much respect for him. So it's gonna be

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Speaker 2: a challenge for us. Uh, but it's no, it's no challenge.

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Speaker 2: How we how we haven't faced you know yet. So

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Speaker 2: we face a lot of great teams, a lot of

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Speaker 2: really good quarterbacks, and he's up there with, you know,

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Speaker 2: the highest, the biggest, best quarterbacks that we played so far.

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Speaker 5: So to be fun for.

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Speaker 5: So it'll be fun.

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Speaker 2: But uh, I think they've done a you know, a

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Speaker 1: Jay, good stuff that appreciate the time that's Sunday night.

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Speaker 5: Appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: He had a chance to talk to Vic Carucci, who

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Speaker 3: Giants visit the three and two Bills on Sunday Night

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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame voter, none other than Vic Carucci. Vic

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Speaker 3: always good to speak with you, Hope all as well.

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Speaker 3: How's everything on your end?

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Speaker 4: Everything is great. Lance, always great to be with you

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 3: Let's dig into this matchup, and really you got the

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Speaker 4: I'm going to answer this two ways, freelance. I think

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 3: And when you look at the dynamics of this pass

441
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Speaker 3: rush Vic and if von Miller is slow in terms

442
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Speaker 3: of his progress and getting back to full force, you say, well,

443
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Speaker 3: how is it they're doing that much better making up

444
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Speaker 3: for his absence compared to as I said post Thanksgiving

445
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Speaker 3: last season you brought up Ajpns who had a breakout

446
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Speaker 3: campaign last year. He seems to be picking up where

447
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Speaker 3: he left off. What about the addition of Leonard f Lloyd,

448
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Speaker 3: who I think a lot of people thought would go

449
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Speaker 3: a long way to help stop the bleeding from a

450
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Speaker 3: von Miller injury, and the numbers look good. How much

451
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Speaker 3: of an impact has he made upfront those far?

452
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Speaker 4: Leonard Floyd has made a really strong impact. It hasn't

453
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Speaker 4: been dominant game in and game out, but it's been

454
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Speaker 4: strong enough. And when you look at the collective people

455
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Speaker 4: talent that they have defensively, it is fair to say that,

456
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Speaker 4: even though most of the season remains, if the injuries

457
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Speaker 4: don't increase, and let's face it, they've been hit with

458
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Speaker 4: a barrage in a matter of five games, if they

459
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Speaker 4: don't increase, I would say to you Lance that they

460
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Speaker 4: can hold up with what they have here well enough

461
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Speaker 4: to still be a contender in a wide open AFC.

462
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Speaker 4: I think, yes, Kansas City, we know they're a strong team.

463
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Speaker 4: Cincinnati's been a grave disappointment and I'm not even sure

464
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Speaker 4: who else I would mention that is in the category

465
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Speaker 4: of the Bills, as banged up as they are now

466
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:17,159
Speaker 4: three and two. A record suggests inconsistency. And we saw

467
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Speaker 4: that Jets game and then we saw this Jacksonville game.

468
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Speaker 4: Were there similarities between the two. Yes, they found a

469
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Speaker 4: way to lose against the Jets because Josh Allen just

470
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Speaker 4: kept turning it over. Against the Jacksonville Jaguars, I would

471
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Speaker 4: say it was a bit of a circumstance, the decision

472
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Speaker 4: to travel late to London, go there on a Thursday night,

473
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Speaker 4: fly all night, stay up all day Friday, and have

474
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Speaker 4: a walk through practice then and basically have one decent

475
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Speaker 4: night's rest. They were a sleep walking team against the

476
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Speaker 4: Jacksonville team that had like upwards of what ten to

477
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Speaker 4: twelve days there because they had played Atlanta the previous week,

478
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Speaker 4: and that was just enough Lance in a close in

479
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Speaker 4: a game that became very close once the Bills were

480
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Speaker 4: making their comeback to make a difference in the outcome.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about Vick Rucci serious x MNFL radio. You

482
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Speaker 3: can see him on WGRZTV in Buffalo as well previewing

483
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Speaker 3: the Giants Bills matchup on Sunday Night Football. The penalties

484
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Speaker 3: on the defensive side of the ball they jumped out

485
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Speaker 3: to me in that Jaguars game and pravas et and

486
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Speaker 3: having some big runs. The reason I'm bringing it up

487
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Speaker 3: is we talked about the Giants offensive line issues. If

488
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Speaker 3: there's any Achilles heel on Buffalo's defense that the Giants

489
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Speaker 3: could try to expose, is it the run defense?

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Speaker 7: Is it?

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Speaker 3: If they have enough opportunity to test the boundaries of

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Speaker 3: the secondary.

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Speaker 7: Where would your pinpoint perhaps.

494
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Speaker 3: Something that could go wrong, if anything on that defensive

495
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Speaker 3: side of the ball.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Lance, I would say both areas. I think you're

497
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Speaker 4: absolutely right about the run defense. The vulnerability that's there

498
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Speaker 4: and they've shown it, and if you're persistent as an opponent,

499
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Speaker 4: this is the thing, and you keep the game close

500
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Speaker 4: enough in the early going where you can stick with

501
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Speaker 4: the run, and knowing Brian dave Ball as I do,

502
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Speaker 4: and his play calling patterns and tendencies, if they find

503
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Speaker 4: themselves in an early hole, which can happen very easily

504
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Speaker 4: against Buffalo, if they pop a couple of big plays offensively,

505
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Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden the first quarter you're

506
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Speaker 4: down a couple of touchdowns, are you still going to

507
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Speaker 4: be able to try to run your way back in?

508
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 4: It usually doesn't work that way in the NFL. But

509
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Speaker 4: if the Giants can get something going with an initial

510
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 4: drive no later than their second one of plotting and

511
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Speaker 4: moving along in a steady way incrementally, and if Saquon

512
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Speaker 4: Barkley's healthy enough to do this, if the line can

513
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Speaker 4: give them some holes, I also think it's critical that

514
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Speaker 4: you try to spread the Bills defensive front apart and

515
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Speaker 4: find those interior cuts holes where they get where the

516
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Speaker 4: can kind of enter and then sort of take it outside.

517
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Speaker 4: But the Bills have been with day Kwon Jones stout

518
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Speaker 4: inside take them away now it's at Oliver Jordan Phillips

519
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 4: do it okay there, even after you saw Jones leave

520
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 4: the game and the Jags were slamming into that bit,

521
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Speaker 4: but once you saw those outside cuts, it was a

522
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Speaker 4: different running game. And then to your other point, testing

523
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Speaker 4: the limits of the depth of the secondary, and that's

524
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Speaker 4: where you know again, I think depending on who it is,

525
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Speaker 4: is it Daniel Jones throwing it? I know Tyrod Taylor's

526
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Speaker 4: got a pretty strong arm as well. We'll do things

527
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Speaker 4: on the move more than Jones will, certainly, and maybe

528
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Speaker 4: that combination threat of run and pass would be something

529
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Speaker 4: that could keep this defense, Buffalo defense off balance and

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Speaker 4: then test them. But it has to I think it

531
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Speaker 4: has to start with a running game. The only way

532
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Speaker 4: the Giants will have success throwing the football, I think

533
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Speaker 4: is in concert with an established run game.

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Speaker 3: And I'm completely with you, because if they fall behind

535
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Speaker 3: and they see third and longs, it's going to play

536
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Speaker 3: right into the hands of that Buffalo defensive front that

537
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Speaker 3: we've been breaking down. You brought up Brian Dable. This

538
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 3: is clearly an interesting matchup because he's returning to Western

539
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Speaker 3: New York for the first time since he became the

540
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Speaker 3: Giants head man. He knows Sean McDermott, John McDermott knows him.

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Speaker 3: There's the Ken Dorsey connection. I mean, everywhere you look,

542
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Speaker 3: are we psychoanalyzing it too much?

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Speaker 7: Vic?

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Speaker 3: Is there somebody that has an advantage here? Do they

545
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Speaker 3: need to worry about changing the language and the jargon

546
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Speaker 3: at the line of scrimmage or is that just a

547
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Speaker 3: convenience storyline and you don't really think it's going to

548
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Speaker 3: play a big or noticeable role at all in this game.

549
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Speaker 4: I think it could be an X factor at least

550
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Speaker 4: in terms of keeping the game closer. I would not

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Speaker 4: say to you that, yes, because of Brian dave Ball's

552
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Speaker 4: connection with Josh Allen, the familiarity with him, the offense, Sean, etc.

553
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Speaker 4: That you'd say, oh, wow, this is really going to

554
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Speaker 4: be this is going to flip the field into the

555
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Speaker 4: advantage of the Giants. I would never go there, because

556
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Speaker 4: it's still about the players, the talent overall. That's got

557
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Speaker 4: to make a difference. And I'm sure Brian would feel

558
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 4: that way every bit, as does Shun. But he knows Josh.

559
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Speaker 4: He certainly can tell Wink Martindale enough and has told

560
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 4: him enough about what is usable or would work and

561
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Speaker 4: what shouldn't be done for a scheme that does a

562
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Speaker 4: lot of blitzing. Keep in mind Josh had problems against

563
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Speaker 4: Jacksonville's heavy blitz scheme. Jacksonville kept him a bit out

564
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Speaker 4: of sorts and out of sync with that. Now there

565
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Speaker 4: were drop passes that didn't help, and he still threw

566
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Speaker 4: for like three hundred you know, closer on his way

567
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Speaker 4: to four hundred yards passing, but it was well into

568
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Speaker 4: the three hundreds and two touchdowns, had a one DP pick,

569
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Speaker 4: but basically played a solid game in a loss. But

570
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Speaker 4: the blitzing was bothersome. Martin Dale, here's the question, how

571
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Speaker 4: much of it is going to be the reward blitzing

572
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Speaker 4: and how much risk are you going to take? Because

573
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Speaker 4: that's where this game could get out of hand, because

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Speaker 4: Josh will take advantage of those and he's got digs

575
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 4: and he's got Gabe Davis. But back to day Ball, Yeah,

576
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 4: he knows as much about Josh's strengths and weaknesses, and

577
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 4: as anybody. Josh doesn't have many weaknesses, but if anybody

578
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 4: knows them thoroughly, it's Dayball. Ken Dorsey basically, you know,

579
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Speaker 4: learned this offense at the elbow of day ball, and

580
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Speaker 4: he knows what Ken's thinking is in is as well,

581
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Speaker 4: So that's going to be curious to me. I'm really

582
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Speaker 4: going to be fascinated. I would have to say that

583
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Speaker 4: as a I mean, how many times have we seen this?

584
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Speaker 4: There's so many coaches that change teams and our coordinators

585
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 4: go and does it come back and help sometimes more

586
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Speaker 4: than others. But I will say, do you see the

587
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 4: Bills do like a wholesale change of everything terminology wise?

588
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 4: I don't think that's where this matters. Brian Daveall left

589
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 4: Buffalo knowing at some point or when the schedule came out,

590
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 4: of course they're going to have all their nomenclature changed.

591
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 4: It would be stupid not to. But it's more about

592
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Speaker 4: what he knows about tendancies.

593
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Speaker 3: Now, speaking of tendencies, as we flip the script to

594
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Speaker 3: the offense, last season, Josh Allen was played by red

595
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Speaker 3: zone turnovers specifically, and I know that was a big

596
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Speaker 3: emphasis this season.

597
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Speaker 7: Cleaned it up.

598
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Speaker 3: And then we saw the Jets game and he was

599
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 3: taking those home runs. They came back to bite him.

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Speaker 3: From what I've seen vic since then, the Raiders game.

601
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Speaker 3: I don't want to say it was a conservative approach,

602
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 3: but it seemed like he was utilizing the short passes,

603
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 3: not trying to press the envelope. How much has Allen's

604
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 3: mindset changed since that opener against the Jets and how

605
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: much do you think he's cleaning up some of those

606
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 3: mishaps that he was played by last season?

607
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 4: Lance. I think he's become a different guy in a

608
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 4: matter And it happened really in a matter of I'm

609
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 4: gonna say an hour or a day, or whatever you

610
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Speaker 4: want to call it, whatever that impact was of that

611
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 4: Jet game. That Jet game hit him between the eyes.

612
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 4: It was the pronounced alarm clock eye opener or whatever

613
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 4: you want to call it, where he was forcing things

614
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,959
Speaker 4: where he just felt and I don't know if it

615
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 4: was then, you know, the stage, the Monday night stage,

616
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Speaker 4: the idea that there was all this focus going into

617
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 4: the game on Aaron Rodgers, which disappeared quickly, but the

618
00:29:54,320 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 4: magnitude did not leave him, or Ken Dorsey or any

619
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Speaker 4: buddy who I think was prepping for that game. I

620
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Speaker 4: think there was still in this mindset of We've got

621
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Speaker 4: to do more, and especially offensively, and I've got to

622
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Speaker 4: do more. And Josh Allen saying this to himself and

623
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 4: then realizing, no play within yourself, let the game come

624
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 4: to you, utilize your assets, run after catch. And there

625
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 4: was I know a lot of conversation about that in

626
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 4: the aftermath that had to happen, hard conversations in the

627
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 4: days that follow that Jet game and then leading up to,

628
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 4: like you say, that Raider game, and then beyond all

629
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Speaker 4: of that, you saw even in the Jacksonville game. I

630
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 4: mean you saw it against Washington and then the Jacksonville game.

631
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Speaker 4: Though it was a loss, Josh was mostly the same

632
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 4: Josh he had been in the previous three victories. He

633
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 4: didn't look like you know, he didn't look like a

634
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Speaker 4: guy who was trying to do too many things, wasn't

635
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Speaker 4: trying to force too much. The Miami game was another

636
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 4: example where okay, was he going to revert back to

637
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 4: the Jets version. No, he stayed and you know that

638
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 4: was a forty eight point output. I mean that was

639
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 4: a team that also defensively, even though they allowed three touchdowns,

640
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 4: defensively were pretty sound. And that's where I think Josh

641
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 4: has head has arrived. And this is probably the conversation,

642
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 4: the big conversation with Sean McDermott. Let our team. Be

643
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 4: you know, we're not going to operate in a vacuum here.

644
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 4: Let this team, Let this offense and defense collaborate. And

645
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 4: when you do things, do it with a mindset that

646
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 4: the defense is going to do X, You're going to

647
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 4: do why. But they have to agree with each.

648
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 3: Other, yeah, in terms of cleaning up each other's messes

649
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 3: or complimenting one another, which is essentially what you're laying out.

650
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 3: And I think that's a very valid point. So we

651
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 3: know he's relying on his usual suspects, Stefon Diggs, Gabriel

652
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 3: Davis nine of the eleven touchdown passes. I want to

653
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 3: focus on the tight ends though, Vick. And maybe this

654
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 3: is a fantasy owner in me speaking, but Dalton kinkaid, Okay,

655
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Speaker 3: there was a lot of excitement they draft him out

656
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Speaker 3: of Utah. He was essentially a wide receiver and a

657
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Speaker 3: tight end's body and that maybe he would take over

658
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Speaker 3: for the obsence of Cole Beasley, who coincidentally is now

659
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Speaker 3: with the Giants. And it's not that he hasn't been targeted, Vic,

660
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Speaker 3: but it's the depth of target the fact that we're

661
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Speaker 3: not seeing a lot of explosive plays, a lot of

662
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Speaker 3: short passes. I guess what I'm getting at is, what

663
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Speaker 3: do we make of this? Is he still getting a

664
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Speaker 3: feel for the offense? Are they just scratching the surface.

665
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Speaker 3: Why is he not truly made that big of an impact,

666
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Speaker 3: at least off of paper at this point.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'll say that this is truth in advertising. And

668
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Speaker 4: what I mean by that is when that pick was made,

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Speaker 4: when Brandon being made that choice, and then met with

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Speaker 4: reporters shortly thereafter, he explained that they basically drafted a

671
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Speaker 4: slow receiver with their first pick, with their number one

672
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Speaker 4: draft pick, and yes, the position is tight end, but

673
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Speaker 4: this guy will run slot routes, will line up in

674
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Speaker 4: the slot, and he'll be the bigger slot guy than

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Speaker 4: you normally see. And he, in fact, he went so

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Speaker 4: far as to say, one more in formation, when Knox

677
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Speaker 4: is out there and Kincaida is out there, it won't

678
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Speaker 4: be so much twelve personnel, It'll be eleven and a

679
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Speaker 4: half personnel. And I kind of that stuck with me,

680
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Speaker 4: And there's a lot of truth to that, because that's

681
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Speaker 4: exactly how he is being used. The depth of those routes.

682
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Speaker 4: It's not an accident that the feeling is he'll move

683
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Speaker 4: the sticks for you. How many big plays is he

684
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Speaker 4: going to make beyond that? We'll see And by the way,

685
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Speaker 4: you know he has been as you and I are

686
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Speaker 4: recording this in concussion protocol, so that's something to look

687
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Speaker 4: at this particular game. Do I see him emerging more?

688
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Speaker 4: Probably there's going to be an evolution, as you would

689
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Speaker 4: expect for any rookie to figure out more about NFL

690
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Speaker 4: coverages and how they can be exploited and how he

691
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Speaker 4: can be utilized in a bigger way. I thought we

692
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Speaker 4: would see more, I will say this more through these

693
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Speaker 4: first five games of him in the red zone, and

694
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Speaker 4: there hasn't really been a ton of that. And keep

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Speaker 4: in mind, Dawson Knox is one of the higher paid

696
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Speaker 4: tight ends in the league. They need to get their

697
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Speaker 4: money's worth out of him. Lance. I mean, the basic

698
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Speaker 4: business decision is you draft this kid in the first round. Yes,

699
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Speaker 4: but you've got Dawson Knox. You're invested in Dawston Dawson

700
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Speaker 4: Knox and wanting him to be as much a big

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Speaker 4: target as possible. And he still is, though he's dealing

702
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Speaker 4: with a wrist injury that came up that was announced

703
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Speaker 4: this week. So it's very interesting to see how it evolves.

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Speaker 4: But I'm not gonna lie because I'm on the record

705
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Speaker 4: of saying this. I didn't love that pick. I thought

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Speaker 4: it was somewhat of a reach, you know, moving up

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Speaker 4: to get him.

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Speaker 5: Uh, I don't.

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Speaker 4: It's felt like a panic move. I felt like he

710
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Speaker 4: would he could fall to them and possibly even lower

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Speaker 4: than the first round. The guy that I love that

712
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Speaker 4: they drafted it was the second round pick, you know,

713
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Speaker 4: is o Cyrus Torrence is the guard from Florida who

714
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Speaker 4: has been terrific. Now. He had two holding calls in

715
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Speaker 4: three snaps against Jacksonville late in the game that were problematic.

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Speaker 4: There were a lot of flags. I know you asked

717
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Speaker 4: me about the flags and I didn't really address that earlier.

718
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Speaker 4: I thought that officiating crew was ridiculous for both sides

719
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Speaker 4: and calling some there were. There was an egregious roughing

720
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Speaker 4: the passer, egregiously bad roughing the passer call on the

721
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Speaker 4: Jaguars and egregiously bad uh uh you know, contact downfield

722
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Speaker 4: on Jordan Poyer on the Bills. Just they just were.

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Speaker 4: It was a flag fest. And really for nine point

724
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Speaker 4: thirty in the morning Eastern time kickoff, you don't want that.

725
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Speaker 4: You're still drinking your coffee, you're trying to wake up.

726
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Speaker 4: But I digress. I think this offense is still built

727
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Speaker 4: to have the biggest plays come from Stefan Diggs, from

728
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Speaker 4: Gabe Davis first and foremost, and Knox will be the

729
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Speaker 4: next guy in line, and then those moving in the

730
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Speaker 4: chains sort of like extended where they came the long

731
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Speaker 4: handoffs type of plays. Right. We used to refer to

732
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Speaker 4: that with the Patriots and their scheme, Julian Edelman and

733
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Speaker 4: so forth. That's kind of what I think, at least

734
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Speaker 4: for this year, what Dalton kin K's role is.

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Speaker 3: Think I want to finish off where you were talking

736
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Speaker 3: about the offensive line, because there seemed to be an

737
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Speaker 3: emphasis of boosting the interior. They brought in Connor McGovern

738
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Speaker 3: from the Cowboys as well, and you brought up the

739
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Speaker 3: draft pick, and there was also a goal of let's

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Speaker 3: bring in some more conventional backs be able to run

741
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Speaker 3: it effectively in the red zone outside of Josh Allen,

742
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Speaker 3: and I think we've seen some flashes with Latavius Murray,

743
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Speaker 3: especially if you go back to the Raiders game. What

744
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Speaker 3: have the dynamics been like in terms of maybe easing

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen's run presence and trying to emphasize some of

746
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Speaker 3: these other guys to be a little bit more versatile

747
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Speaker 3: in keeping defenses on their toes in those tight areas

748
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Speaker 3: in the red zone.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, and here's the thing. I was boasting about

750
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Speaker 4: Torrence's play up until this Jacksonville game. I thought the

751
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Speaker 4: O line was doing a terrific job. With the run game,

752
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Speaker 4: I think there was a combination of things. They didn't run,

753
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Speaker 4: they ran terribly, and James Cook, their lead back, had

754
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Speaker 4: minus yards. You can't do that and likely succeed. I

755
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 4: think what they ended up with like twenty nine rushing

756
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Speaker 4: yards total. As Sean McDermot said, you don't win many

757
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Speaker 4: games with that, and yet they were in a position

758
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Speaker 4: to win. But they were at their best in those

759
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 4: three consecutive victories with the running game rolling. And it

760
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 4: starts with that line, the backs, Cook, Damian Harris, Latavious Murray.

761
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Speaker 4: It's a nice combination, nice change up when they have it,

762
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Speaker 4: but they got to stay committed to it. I believe

763
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Speaker 4: they will. I believe they will. I believe part of

764
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Speaker 4: what a big part of what you do when another

765
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Speaker 4: team is blitzing is try to slow it down with

766
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Speaker 4: those run plays, right, you just want to give them

767
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Speaker 4: something else to worry about. Now, you can blitz effectively

768
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Speaker 4: to stop the run. True, but I don't know, and

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Speaker 4: I will give Jacksonville credit for doing some of that.

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Speaker 4: But I also want to say that Ken Dorsey can't

771
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Speaker 4: abandon that that philosophy of trying to run the football

772
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Speaker 4: and balance it out, because the best version of this

773
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Speaker 4: offense is Alan throwing to eight or nine different receivers.

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Speaker 4: He had couple games in a row with nine different

775
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 4: guys catching the ball. That, believe me, you know that

776
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 4: stretches the defense out. And then two the balance of

777
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Speaker 4: the run game. And when they played when they beat Miami,

778
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Speaker 4: they ran the football twenty nine times. They threw the

779
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Speaker 4: football twenty five times in a day when they had

780
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Speaker 4: forty eight points. So that really, as a formula, kind

781
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Speaker 4: of tells you. I don't I will tell you that's

782
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Speaker 4: not likely to be what you're going to see game

783
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Speaker 4: in a game out from Buffalo, more runs than passes.

784
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Speaker 4: But that really is a telling kind of stat.

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Speaker 3: Well, and to your point, it'll be interesting because they

786
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Speaker 3: just played the Dolphins. The Giants after the Dolphins went

787
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Speaker 3: up against the Bills and Miami pounded the football on

788
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Speaker 3: the ground.

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Speaker 7: They did have some explosive plays, and we know the.

790
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Speaker 3: Giants pass rush has had five sacks and not a

791
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Speaker 3: lot of disruptive plays and quarterback hits. So this could

792
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Speaker 3: be a game vic where maybe Ken Dorsey does think, hey,

793
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Speaker 3: we can really try to test them in terms of

794
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Speaker 3: their tackling and make sure that they can't disrupt anything

795
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Speaker 3: with respect to the pass rush.

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Speaker 4: I would absolutely see that. Yes, I mean again, the

797
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 4: way I can see this game playing out is Buffalo

798
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Speaker 4: just coming into it with more of this power approach.

799
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Speaker 4: I do think there is some of that. Hit them

800
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Speaker 4: with it, hit them hard in the mouth, you know,

801
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Speaker 4: the knockout blow early, discourage them. It's it's Monday, it's

802
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 4: Sunday night football. It's a it's a game where you know,

803
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 4: with the stage and the hype being what it is,

804
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 4: but if you get them discouraged early enough, then you

805
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 4: can take control and do what you want to do.

806
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Speaker 4: So for Buffalo, it is just what you said, come out,

807
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 4: stay true to the run, you know, blow them off

808
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 4: the ball, make those plays and then feed off of

809
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 4: that and start piling up some points. Get them into

810
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Speaker 4: a deep enough hole where now your defense is just

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Speaker 4: teeing off and and and I think once that happens,

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Speaker 4: I I this could get way out of hand. I've

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Speaker 4: my mental score of this thing is kept it in

814
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Speaker 4: the thirties. I don't know why, because I probably should

815
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Speaker 4: be in the forties, maybe even fifties. I don't know

816
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Speaker 4: for Buffalo, because it could turn into that kind of game.

817
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 4: It could turn really ugly. We saw that happen with

818
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 4: the Giants once already, and you know, sadly for them,

819
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 4: this is the kind of game it could be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, especially based on what Dallas did. As you mentioned,

821
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Speaker 3: Miami and the Giants have had a very tough time

822
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Speaker 3: scoring in the first half. Vic, they don't even have

823
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Speaker 3: an offensive touchdown. It's a defensive touchdown that has accounted

824
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Speaker 3: for all.

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Speaker 7: Of their scores. So I think that definitely puts things

826
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Speaker 7: in perspective. He is Vic Caruci.

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Speaker 3: You can hear them on Sirius XMNFL radio see him

828
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 3: on WGRZTV in Buffalo. Vic always a blast. This was

829
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Speaker 3: like doing three segments on Channel eighty eight.

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Speaker 7: Essentially.

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Speaker 3: It's always good patch it up with you and I

832
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Speaker 3: much appreciate the time of the insight.

833
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Speaker 4: Lance always love talking ball with you, my friend.

834
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Speaker 6: You love turf, You're good at it, So you start

835
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Speaker 6: a turf biz business growd, your savings grow, become the

836
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Speaker 6: most celebrated name in turf. Are you ready for all

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Speaker 6: that life brings?

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Speaker 1: Hey, Giant fans. Citizens is presenting a new video series,

839
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840
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841
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Speaker 1: official bank of the New York Giants. We thank Vic,

844
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Speaker 1: We thank Lance for giving us an inside look at

845
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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Now let's turn our attention to the

846
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Speaker 1: head coach of the New York Football Giants, Brian Dabele

847
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Speaker 1: with Bob Pop and.

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Speaker 8: As always, we're joined by the head coach of the

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Speaker 8: New York Giants, Brian Dable. Primetime game in Buffalo against

850
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Speaker 8: the Bills. Bills come in at three and two, Giants

851
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Speaker 8: one and four on the season, and Coach, I know

852
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Speaker 8: you're focused on the job, like you gotta get the

853
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Speaker 8: job done. But is there any kind of sentimental feelings

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Speaker 8: about going back to a place that you have fond

855
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Speaker 8: feelings for.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think this is my sixteenth time be back

857
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Speaker 9: there on the road, so you know, maybe twenty some

858
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 9: years ago when I first went back, But great appreciation

859
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Speaker 9: for that city, for that organization. But focus is with

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Speaker 9: us coach.

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Speaker 8: With Daniel Jones not playing in the football game, how much,

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Speaker 8: if at all, does the game plan change against a

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Speaker 8: team like Buffalo?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think you you know, taking account who your

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Speaker 9: quarterback is, but you're also taking count who the offensive

866
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Speaker 9: line is, who the receivers are. So you know, we've

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Speaker 9: been working through that throughout the week and try to

868
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Speaker 9: put the best game plan we can together for Tyron.

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Speaker 8: Coach Tyrod Taylor was a Pro bowler with the Bills

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Speaker 8: in twenty fifteen. Does his experience give you confidence that

871
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Speaker 8: he can do a good job in this game?

872
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Speaker 9: Yeah, Tyrod zapro So he's going to go out there

873
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Speaker 9: and put his best foot forward and do everything he

874
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Speaker 9: can do put us in a good situation.

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Speaker 8: Let's talk a little bit about your football team. Obviously,

876
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 8: you've had a mix and match in a lot of

877
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 8: different places and you're asking people to step up. You've

878
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 8: had a bunch of injuries. How do you keep everybody

879
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 8: focused and on the same page when you're dealing with

880
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 8: a lot of adversity throughout the course of the lineup.

881
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the job.

882
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 9: When you're in the NFL. You know there's gonna be injuries,

883
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 9: there's gonna be things that happen, and it's you know,

884
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Speaker 9: the next person has to do the best job they

885
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 9: can do of preparing, getting ready and to play their best.

886
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 8: You know, just looking back at last week as we

887
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Speaker 8: get ready to spin forward to next week, you get

888
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Speaker 8: to pick six. You know how much of a momentum

889
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 8: switch was it when Miami was able to drive it

890
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Speaker 8: at the end of the half and at least get three.

891
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 9: No, that was that was a good play. But again

892
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 9: you're always trying to play well at the end of

893
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Speaker 9: the half the beginning of the second half, So to

894
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 9: give up three and then they went out there and

895
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 9: they hit that big one, you know, they regained control

896
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Speaker 9: of the game.

897
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Speaker 7: All Right.

898
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Speaker 8: Would take a look at the Buffalo Bills and led

899
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 8: by quarterback Josh Allen. They're coming off a tough loss

900
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 8: last week in London against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Josh Allen

901
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 8: leads the NFL and completion percentage between throwing and running.

902
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 8: He leads the league with fourteen touchdowns. You know, he's

903
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 8: such a unique athlete. What are some of the things

904
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 8: that make him so difficult to deal with and what

905
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 8: are some of the things that people don't see that

906
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 8: make him difficult to deal with?

907
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 9: Well, it's physical skill set. He's an exceptional quarterback that

908
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 9: can make every throw. He's extremely smart, knows where to

909
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 9: go with the football, and then he can create the

910
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 9: second play or at times with him the third play.

911
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 9: So you know, staying in coverage plastering the receivers while

912
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 9: also you know, trying to do a good job of

913
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 9: containing him when he does break the pocket is always

914
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 9: a challenge. But he's done that for a long time

915
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 9: and he just gets better and better.

916
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 8: What about the football IQ part of it, because you

917
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 8: work closely with him, his grasp and understanding of what

918
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 8: defenses are trying to do.

919
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 9: To him, Yeah, I'd say that, and having full control

920
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 9: of the offense that you know, he's been there for

921
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 9: quite some time, He's played a lot of games. Looks

922
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 9: he's one of the smarter guys that I've been around

923
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 9: in terms of understanding what you're trying to do offensively,

924
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:00,760
Speaker 9: seeing coverage, seeing defenders, you know when to go ahead

925
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 9: and take those shots. He knows how to check the

926
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 9: ball down. He has firm control of the offense. You

927
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 9: can see it. You know, I've seen it for the

928
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Speaker 9: years I was there. You see it on tape. He's

929
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 9: just he's one heck of a player. He's one of

930
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 9: the best players in the league.

931
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 8: Stefan Diggs is third in the league with thirty nine reception,

932
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 8: sixth in yardage. We know what kind of playmaker he is,

933
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 8: but it seems as if Gabe Davis is starting a

934
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 8: round in the form after a slow start. What makes

935
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 8: Davis such a good second weapon?

936
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't know. I wouldn't even say second weapon.

937
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Speaker 9: He's just a weapon.

938
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Speaker 4: You know.

939
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Speaker 9: The last game I was with him, he had four

940
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 9: touchdowns in a big primetime game in the playoffs. He's very,

941
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 9: very smart, he's dependable, he got good hands, and he's

942
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 9: one heck of a player.

943
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Speaker 4: You know.

944
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 9: They have good skilled players with a quarterback that knows

945
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 9: how to get him the ball, and it's a tough

946
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 9: offense to defend.

947
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 8: Defensively, they lead the league in sacks. They're number one

948
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 8: takeaway with thirteen of them. Now they've lost some key players.

949
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 8: Stradavious White got hurt a few weeks ago, and then

950
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 8: unfortunately they lost Matt Mallana. But they're getting von Miller

951
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 8: back defensively. What are some of the areas that Buffalo

952
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 8: does really well and that you guys are going to

953
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 8: have to be high alert on well.

954
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 9: I think they run aggressive scheme in terms of you know,

955
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 9: the four guys that are rushing are very good. I

956
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 9: think coach Washington does a great job with them of

957
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 9: how to rush the passer.

958
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 5: They're quick off.

959
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 9: The ball and create issues in the run game by

960
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 9: their penetration. The linebackers fast flow downfield, the safeties they

961
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 9: shoot gaps. They create negative plays that way, and then

962
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 9: obviously the turnover. They're very fast defense. You know, it's

963
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 9: a zone defense primarily with a little bit of man

964
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 9: and man coverage. They do a great job of reading

965
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 9: the quarterback and then you know, they do a great

966
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Speaker 9: job of finishing on the quarterback when they get those

967
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 9: sacks to cast some strip sacks. They had two last

968
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Speaker 9: week against Lawrence in the red zone against Jacksonville. So

969
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 9: when you have a defense that can get after the

970
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 9: passer and take the ball away. That's a tough defense, coach.

971
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Speaker 8: Final question, I mean, I know getting off to a

972
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 8: fast start is always important for every NFL game, but

973
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Speaker 8: when you're going into an environment like Buffalo in prime

974
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Speaker 8: time where there truly is a big time home field advantage,

975
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 8: how important is it to try to keep the game

976
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Speaker 8: stable early so that you can then settle into the game.

977
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Speaker 9: Yeah, communication will be important. It's uh, you know, truly

978
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 9: the twelfth Man there there. It's loud. It's very very loud,

979
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 9: and when they're playing well, it's you know, gives them

980
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 9: a lot to cheer for and it gets harder on

981
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 9: the offense because of how loud it is. But we're

982
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 9: going to have to do a good job of just

983
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 9: focusing on our job, our responsibility. It's going to be

984
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 9: loud regardless. So I know we've played on the road

985
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Speaker 9: a lot. This is a unique place on a primetime game,

986
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Speaker 9: like you said, and you know, we're going to really

987
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 9: have to focus in on on doing the things that

988
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 9: we need to do, our communication, our detail, and then

989
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Speaker 9: ultimately our ex coach.

990
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Speaker 8: We appreciate a couple of minutes.

991
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Speaker 9: Best of luck, thanks Bob.

992
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Speaker 1: Great job by Bob with coach Dable. We thank Lance

993
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Speaker 1: and Vic and Zavid McKinney for joining us on the

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