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Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to I've never said this before with me,

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Speaker 1: Tommy di Dario. Today is a very special episode because

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Speaker 1: I have two wonderful actors on my show who also

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Speaker 1: world say well hashtag couple goals. The talented Jared and

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Speaker 1: Jen Padlechi are here today, and man, we had so

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Speaker 1: much fun chatting. I could have kept them for eight

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Speaker 1: good human beings and I loved this chat. Jared is

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Speaker 1: of course best known for his iconic role as Sam

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Speaker 1: Winchester on the CW series Supernatural, which ran for an

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Speaker 1: Gilmour Girls, playing Rory's charming and loyal boyfriend Dean, another

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Speaker 1: fan favorite character, and fast forward to today, he developed

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Speaker 1: and stars in Walker on the CW, which is airing

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Speaker 1: its series finale on June twenty sixth. Now, his beautiful wife,

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Speaker 1: Jen is best known for her starring roles on the

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Speaker 1: ABC Family series Wildfire and of course, the legendary series Supernatural.

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Speaker 1: She also just finished playing Emily Walker on the hit

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Speaker 1: series Walker alongside her husband, of course, and aside from

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Speaker 1: gracing us with their talents on screen together, Jared and

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Speaker 1: Jen are passionate about the planet and they promote a

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Speaker 1: more sustainable way of living, and they really encourage us

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Speaker 2: Doesn't that sound amazing?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm all about peace, putting my device down, getting

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Speaker 1: in nature. Sign me up today. We chat all about

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Speaker 1: their fan favorite projects. We get a deeper glimpse into

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Speaker 1: we connect on some really personal levels.

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Speaker 2: We go deep. So let's see if.

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Speaker 1: We can get Jared and Jen to say something that

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Speaker 1: they have never said before.

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Speaker 2: Jared and Jen, it is so good to see you guys.

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Speaker 2: How you feeling today?

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Speaker 3: Feeling good? Yeah, feeling good. We were in Europe for

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Speaker 3: a few weeks with kids how to Blast, so there's

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Speaker 3: are we okay? Is it?

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Speaker 2: Jet leg is real.

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Speaker 1: I go to Europe probably once a year, and I

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Speaker 1: always feel like it takes me a couple of days

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Speaker 1: to recover. So I appreciate you being here and showing

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Speaker 1: up and happy belated Father's Day. Very happy related. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: very very nice. I'm happy you guys are here, so

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Speaker 1: thank you again. We have so much to get to God,

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Speaker 1: we don't want to begin. I guess let's begin with

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Speaker 1: the fan favorite show that is sadly coming to an end,

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Speaker 1: which is Walker, and the big series finale is airing

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Speaker 1: on June twenty sixth, and man, people are people are

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Speaker 1: not ready for it. They're not ready for it. So Jared,

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Speaker 1: we'll start with you. You know, how are you processing something

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Speaker 3: I'm sure, yeah, no, thanks, thank you for the question.

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Speaker 3: Funny enough, this is the first time I've really spoken

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Speaker 3: so I haven't really digested it yet. It's heartbreaking. Man.

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Speaker 3: They weren't for me, you know. They were tears for

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Speaker 1: And Jen, I know for you, you put on Instagram

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Speaker 5: A whole lot, which is a I mean, I love

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Speaker 4: Working for our family. This one was just the ultimate

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Speaker 4: much fun with that, but also have truly the dreamiest

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Speaker 1: So for the finale, are you both satisfied with how

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Speaker 3: That's a great question. Yes. So we knew while filming

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Speaker 1: You know, with every new project, with everything that we

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Speaker 1: right and the Walker chapter for you both, I'm sure

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Speaker 4: Learned I mean on every job. I think, at every

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Speaker 4: actually love about him? And so you also for me,

435
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 4: you had to say I had to let go of

436
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 4: certain things about the perfection of it all and about

437
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 4: living our lives in a nuclear way, like we just

438
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 4: don't have that lifestyle. We chose this lifestyle. We chose

439
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 4: to get into this acting industry. Granted we didn't.

440
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 7: I don't think we thought, oh wow, we'll be forty

441
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 7: with three kids and a mortgage, and you know, like

442
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 7: there's some real stuff with life that we.

443
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,919
Speaker 4: Have to deal with. But we don't have a traditional

444
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 4: life and that's okay. And so I think for me,

445
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 4: I had to let go of some of that traditional parenting,

446
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 4: traditional marriage and ideals, and not to say that we

447
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 4: don't have you know, we have our contract, we have

448
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 4: our relationship, we have our marriage. You know that that

449
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 4: is at the core and very important to us. But

450
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 4: you know, he can't be it in there every weekend,

451
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 4: even every night with the kids, and so when we

452
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 4: do have that time, it's very important, it's very sacred

453
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 4: to us. But you know, it's challenging because it's not

454
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 4: every Thursday night or something. You know, it's it's evolving

455
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 4: and so sometimes sort of our friends and friend group

456
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 4: that can be challenging because we cannot be consistent all

457
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 4: the time and I've just had to make plans. Yeah,

458
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 4: it's hard.

459
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I think to our point, I think it's

460
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 3: it's interesting. And as you get older and your life

461
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 3: goes here and there, you realize that there are certain

462
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 3: people in your world that they're around when you do

463
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 3: what's best for them, and then there are those in

464
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,400
Speaker 3: your world that when you do what's best for you,

465
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 3: they're even more excited and that becomes even better for

466
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 3: them than doing what they think might be best for them.

467
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 3: And however, many aspects, So you're talking about other people,

468
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,679
Speaker 3: like other professionals who are going through this, and that

469
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 3: they're in a relationship or they're not, and things seem

470
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 3: high and low. Tattoo it says if it's a poem

471
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 3: by Rudyard Kipling, and there's a great couplet in it

472
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 3: that says, if you can meet with triumph and disaster

473
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 3: and treat those two impostors just the same. And so

474
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 3: I think that's where I kind of try and live,

475
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 3: you know, like right now I'm jobless for the first

476
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 3: time in twenty four years, Like I've always had a

477
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 3: job to look forward to. So seemingly it's a disaster,

478
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 3: right like, oh shit, I don't have any work, Like

479
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 3: I'm not reading through a script, so it's seemingly a disaster.

480
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 3: It'll change, and so there are highs and lows, and

481
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 3: especially in a relationship, she'll have highs and lows because

482
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 3: she's a human being. I'll have highs and lows because

483
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 3: I'm human being. If we seek to communicate with each other,

484
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 3: and there might be times where she's like, hey, maybe

485
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 3: I'm overly doting or something, and she's like, I just

486
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 3: eat some space. It's like, got it, and it's not about me,

487
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 3: it's about her, and vice versa, when she wants to

488
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 3: do this or that, and I'm like, hey, I don't

489
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 3: want to be a Debbie downer. I just need to

490
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 3: stay home, like I'm going to go go for a

491
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,719
Speaker 3: walk or listen to album I love or something, and

492
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 3: she gets it. And so that mutual trust of like

493
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 3: growing alongside each other but also realizing you're not growing

494
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 3: at the same speed at the same rate, like sometimes

495
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 3: I'm here, she's there. Sometimes vice versa, and often we're here,

496
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 3: but just listening and communicating, being like, hey, can I

497
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 3: do anything? No, you need you time? Cool, take you time.

498
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 3: I'll hang with kids or whatever. Get out your hair,

499
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 3: and not taking offense by you know, like we're all humans,

500
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 3: like we all we're all gonna have highs and lows. Otherwise,

501
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:28,959
Speaker 3: what's the point of living, right if you're not going

502
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 3: to have your highs and your lows and hopefully find

503
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 3: some balance.

504
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 1: One hundred percent, I couldn't agree more so this is

505
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: something that I was very interested in, you know, as

506
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: I was thinking about our conversation today, and I want

507
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: your both of your perspective on this. So, for one,

508
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 1: you mentioned thinking about retiring from acting, So is that

509
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: something you're still considering or is that kind of on

510
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: the back burner or you're you don't know.

511
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 3: I'm always considering it. There are some stories I really

512
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 3: want to tell, want to help tell. Like I know,

513
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 3: I've even really considered myself an actor. I consider myself

514
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 3: a storyteller and there happened to be a camera pointed

515
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 3: at me or something. So I love the process. I

516
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: love developing things. I love reading a book and going,

517
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 3: oh my god, this would be amazing as a TV show,

518
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 3: as a limited series, as a movie. Like, people who

519
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 3: aren't often readers still need to see these tropes, these

520
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 3: archetypes delivered in this way. I'm not retired from acting.

521
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 3: I'm excited about some stuff we have coming up, but

522
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 3: I'm not excited about the industry. I guess so if

523
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 3: it can be done in such a way. There was

524
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 3: another wonderful think about Walker is when Mark Pettwitz was

525
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 3: running CW. He kind of said, like, what kind of

526
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 3: stories would you hope to tell if you could, And

527
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 3: we went through some ideas. I went through Walker and

528
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 3: He's like, I like that, and so we developed this

529
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 3: and now we have this family and that kind of situation.

530
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 3: I'm less eager to sell parts of my life that

531
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 3: I hold so dear now and you, you know, do

532
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 3: what you do with GEO. There are a lot of

533
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 3: sacrifices and I'm not complaining. I signed up for this,

534
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 3: Like Jen said earlier, we signed up for this, and

535
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 3: it's amazing and the people I've met and the stories

536
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 3: I've been able to be a part of the relationships

537
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 3: I've been fortunate enough to grow. There are still some

538
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 3: things like, Hey, you can't take your kid to camp.

539
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 3: Hey you can't be there for their birthday. Hey you

540
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 3: can't be there when they're crying. It Like, there are

541
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 3: just some sacrifices that I need to measure, like what's

542
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 3: what's worth it?

543
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get that you kind of want to do

544
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 1: it on your own terms. And yeah, and Jen, do

545
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: you feel the itch to get more into the acting

546
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: world again or you're loving the direction that your life

547
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 1: is taking.

548
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 4: I love acting, I really do. In storytelling. I love

549
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 4: the whole process of it and creating a character. And

550
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 4: you know, I feel like you learned or I learned

551
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 4: so much about myself in the same way that you

552
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 4: read a book, like whether you relate to it or not,

553
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 4: you find something that resonates with it you and that

554
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 4: discovery and learning about people and cultures and all of it.

555
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 4: I really enjoy that, and how they interact with other

556
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 4: people and things and problems, and I really enjoy that

557
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 4: that part a lot. We're in the process now of

558
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 4: sort of forging a path of creating some projects that

559
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 4: we can.

560
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 3: Own.

561
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm really excited about that adventure. And I

562
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 4: don't know if it's a control thing, but more of

563
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 4: like being able to tell these stories and in a

564
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 4: collaborative process and be more m Yeah, I suppose in control,

565
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 4: you know, not just being told go here here, stand here,

566
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 4: do this, and you'll go here, you know, but being

567
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 4: more of like, hey, I want to be part of

568
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 4: the community and help figure out who's in that community.

569
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 3: We're having a vote instead of an opinion.

570
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

571
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure you're both at a point where you

572
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: want more ownership, right.

573
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 3: Yes, and not for the sake of being called a

574
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 3: co owner. It's more like Hey, I love this story.

575
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 3: I'd love to help tell it. If it changes too much,

576
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 3: then that's not really the story I want to tell. Like,

577
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 3: let's tell this story, and let's do it in the

578
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 3: best possible way where it's all, you know, good faith,

579
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 3: we're all going to work together, we all realize we

580
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 3: still have lives off set, and so the ownership is

581
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 3: a funny word, and that's probably the best placeholder. But

582
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 3: it's it's not exactly ownership. It's it's having the vote

583
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 3: over having an opinion, you know, not like hey, Tommy,

584
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 3: what do you think. I think it's a bad idea. Well, cool,

585
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 3: good for you. We're doing it anyways, but like, no,

586
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 3: my vote is I'm one of two votes and my

587
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 3: vote is no, you know, like having that to go

588
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 3: like I didn't. You know, we've both we've talked about

589
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 3: it between each other. We've both been in situations on

590
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 3: sets where something happens and you're like, I don't feel

591
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 3: like this is not what I expected and I don't

592
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 3: feel comfortable with this, but they're like, hey, they're ready

593
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 3: on set and you got to go do it. It's like, well,

594
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 3: the script that I signed up for this was the

595
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 3: scene and now I have these new pages, but don't

596
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 3: I don't like this. I don't feel comfortable here. It's like, well,

597
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 3: too bad, they're waiting, you know. And so that situation

598
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 3: is not my favorite if it serves the story. Because

599
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 3: also it happens when it's like, hey, where should change

600
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 3: the scene? Because and the lasting the episode, this is

601
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 3: a better tease for it. You're like, oh, bad ass,

602
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 3: Like cool, let's do it. Then sometimes you're like this

603
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 3: is superfluous, you know, like this is not necessary for

604
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 3: the story that I care about. And so trying to

605
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 3: avoid those situations, I think is something that we're both

606
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 3: interested in.

607
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: All right, So here's the million dollar question, and it

608
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: involves both of you because as a family, you make

609
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: these decisions, right, Yeah, obviously everyone and their mother asks you,

610
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: Jared about a Supernatural reboot, and I believe you've said,

611
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: if and when the time is right, you might entertain it.

612
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: So would that be something you really would think about doing,

613
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: even if that means it would take on the next

614
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: five years of your life assuming it's a success, because

615
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: everyone who watched the original would be tuning into this.

616
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 2: Is that something as.

617
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: A family you both would be ready for and wanting

618
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: to make happen.

619
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 3: I will say to this, I don't want to do

620
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 3: another fifteen years of Supernatural. I don't want to do

621
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 3: another five years of Supernatural. I am dying to do

622
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 3: a reboot of Supernatural, akin to like the Gilmore Girls reboot.

623
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 3: You know, it's like, here are four one and a

624
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 3: half hour episodes. We'll shoot it in three months. I

625
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 3: think Jensen and I both said in twenty twenty, we

626
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 3: love to revisit these characters this world. Give us five years,

627
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 3: which is next year. And I see him often, we

628
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 3: talk often. I think he and I are both really

629
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 3: eager to do it. We love the characters, we grew

630
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: up together. I've met my wife on the show. I'm

631
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 3: certain I'll put the flannel on again and place in Winchester.

632
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 3: Not for like a linear television kind of situation that

633
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 3: I'm not interested in, but something that can be strained

634
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 3: and not take nine months out of the year, ten

635
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 3: months out of the year for the next five six

636
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 3: years of my life. Yeah, I can't wait.

637
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 2: And you're you're on board?

638
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 4: Yeah I am. I mean I would. That show has

639
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 4: been such a gift for a family. I mean, I

640
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 4: met my husband, we started a family. Uh, you know,

641
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 4: it's such a great story, the writers, the actors, everyone involved,

642
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 4: the crew. You know, it was amazing. So I would

643
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 4: I would definitely be on board. I think again, like

644
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 4: with Jared's saying projection wise, like what does that mean

645
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 4: and what does that entail? But you know, like it

646
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 4: would be so fun and especially the fan base too.

647
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 4: It's given us family that yeah, or the family, So

648
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 4: I would be really excited about it, right.

649
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 2: Good.

650
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: I think you made a lot of people happy with

651
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: that answer, and that makes sense too. I like, I

652
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: like doing something that's a little different it right, not

653
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: not necessarily a huge another five years series, because like

654
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: you said, there's other hopes and ambitions and goals you have,

655
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: but but revisiting that is super fun. And we live

656
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: in the day and age of nostalgia, right and even

657
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: though it hasn't been that long, people love when things

658
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: come back.

659
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 2: So that's that's really cool. All right.

660
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: I am going to ask you guys a few rapid

661
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,719
Speaker 1: fire couples questions.

662
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: All right, what is.

663
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: The one item that your partner would take on a

664
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: deserted island, not kids, not people, not each other?

665
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: What is one item?

666
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 4: I know this one?

667
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 3: I think Jen would take something to read. Let's say

668
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 3: a book.

669
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 4: You took the high Row one. I thought you were

670
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 4: going to say Bravo.

671
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the streaming Bravo device.

672
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 4: But book is a book.

673
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 3: She spends more time with books than anything else.

674
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 4: What you would bring. He's got a treble fan.

675
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 3: That's right, best present of a time.

676
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: I need more information.

677
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 4: He used to go get it, all right.

678
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 3: I'll get it.

679
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 4: It's a travel fan that we got him for Yeah,

680
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 4: Father's Day last year. He needs one white noise when

681
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 4: he sleeps like it doesn't matter where we are. He

682
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 4: never asked permission. He just turns it on, so we've

683
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 4: all gotten used to it. So he he needs the

684
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 4: white noise. But he also runs really hot. So in

685
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 4: our house we did a remodel and I never put

686
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 4: any fans in and he was very bummed out. So

687
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 4: I ended up getting him a travel fan that he

688
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 4: can use.

689
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 3: While we're by the way. We have no association. I

690
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 3: don't even know what the company is. Venti Venti. This is.

691
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 3: I literally have not gone to bed without this in

692
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 3: years since you got it.

693
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's amazing.

694
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 3: I sweat in the snow. I'm just a sweater, and

695
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 3: so they have like a little.

696
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 4: Text text me your address, I will send you one.

697
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: It is us, Like, you don't understand. So we we

698
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: run hot. You should see in our bedroom. It's like there,

699
00:34:58,600 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: it's sixty.

700
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 2: Five air is the air.

701
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: We have a sound machine, a white noise machine. We

702
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: have a fan running. We used to have a second

703
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: sound machine. And then I'm like, okay, if like our

704
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: fire alarm goes off, we're dead because you can't hear

705
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: anything outside of our apartment. So now we're like one

706
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: sound machine.

707
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 3: What's your uh, what's your White Noise app? So I

708
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 3: have the White Noise.

709
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's not an app. It's a machine from Amazon.

710
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 3: No way.

711
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so no, this is hardcore. I don't do

712
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: an app.

713
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 3: Oh no way. Well what if you forget it? What

714
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 3: if you're traveling?

715
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 2: Oh, I have a travel version.

716
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 3: Okay, send me info and I'll send you infoo on

717
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 3: the app I use because I have a little portable

718
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 3: charger with my phone, and I use the White Noise app,

719
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 3: but I use Brown Noise. They're like a hundred different.

720
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 3: Some are like construction, like who the fuck wants this? Sorry?

721
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: Right right right? No, it's amazing. My god, we're like

722
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 2: spirit animals.

723
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 3: I love that for sure.

724
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 2: For sure, that's amazing.

725
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: All right, next question, I felt this was a fun

726
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: one who takes the longest to get ready me hands

727
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: down you it's trying to get chairs out.

728
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but in fairness, she does not take

729
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 3: a long time get ready. But I like, I haven't

730
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 3: showered today, I have a beanie on and time out.

731
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 4: So I'm usually getting myself ready and plus three best

732
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 4: so I take the lion's share of that, and then

733
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 4: like I'm worry, I'm warning, and I'm like I'm putting

734
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 4: shoes on children.

735
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 3: I have to say, dang shirts and pants and socks.

736
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 3: So I am not an exciting fashionista by any means.

737
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 3: She does not take a long time at all. But

738
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 3: I'm just sort of like, where are we going to

739
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 3: a gala? All right? Let me grab my waterproof boots.

740
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 4: But also I'm like, laid out his outfit ahead of

741
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 4: time for him, So I mean, yeah, but yes, I

742
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 4: mean I take longer, but I would say, in the

743
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 4: grand scheme of things, and I probably take I could

744
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 4: take anywhere from ten minutes to thirty.

745
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's nothing, that's nothing.

746
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 3: I don't know a FEELI it. Oh my god, you

747
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 3: don't protest too much.

748
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 2: Oh I stirred up a little something. That's for after

749
00:36:58,680 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 2: the conversation.

750
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be outside thanks.

751
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: To You can hassle that out on your own time.

752
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: All right, one more, let's go with Okay, if your

753
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: partner would perform one song live at Madison Square Garden,

754
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: what song would they choose?

755
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 3: Oh? God, she would do Baby Got Back.

756
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 2: That's amazing.

757
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 4: That's because our daughter started singing her basically and Terre

758
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 4: It almost died. He's like, what I've only I have.

759
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 4: I will dance all day long. I have not a

760
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 4: lot of rhythm. But I did want to dance recital

761
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 4: in seventh grade and it was a Baby Got Back?

762
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 4: And like, thankfully my mom did not record it. I

763
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 4: don't even know if my mom went, but I'm gonna

764
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 4: find it. She said she didn't go. I just when

765
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 4: she came last time, She's like, you know I didn't go.

766
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 4: Did that because I was like, why would you let

767
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 4: me wear this outfit? And what song would you sing?

768
00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 4: Probably something my Pearl jam or just Breathe or that

769
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 4: John primesng you that you love so much.

770
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 3: Clay Pigeons.

771
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 4: I don't know if you'd seen it, though, I think

772
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 4: you would probably sing.

773
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, there's a song called Clay Pigeons by John

774
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 3: Prime that I love.

775
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 2: Oh, I'll look it up.

776
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

777
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like a huge like.

778
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 3: No, he's not. He's not known for being Adele esque

779
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 3: vocalister because Stapleton style by any means he's just real

780
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 3: and raw and you can hear the pain the life lessons. Yeah,

781
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 3: Clay Pigeons by John Prime. I want to turn back?

782
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 3: What would you do?

783
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: What do you mean? What would I do? What song?

784
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 3: What would you do? Msg?

785
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 2: Oh? Bon Jovi Dead are alive?

786
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's amazing.

787
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: Jersey boy, Jersey boy.

788
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: I had to stay drunk nights with that song growing up,

789
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 1: where perhaps my shirt ripped off.

790
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 2: So yes, amazing.

791
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like, Oh my god, I wish that happens.

792
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: That would be at John. I have not met John.

793
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: No, he's one of the few people I've never met,

794
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: but I would love to meet him.

795
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

796
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 3: I did a movie with him twenty one years ago.

797
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 3: No way, Yeah, he's the.

798
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: Nicest guy I hear. He's the best, I mean, the

799
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: best of the best. He's I mean all his music.

800
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 3: He wasn't bon job You wouldn't know he's bon Jovi.

801
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 3: It's just like, yeah, he did something. We were shooting

802
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 3: movie in Richmond, Virginia at the time. It was pretty

803
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 3: dangerous and it was a low budget film and they

804
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 3: got him like the nicest room at whatever hotel was there.

805
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 3: I don't think it was some massive place, but it

806
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 3: was like a very nice room. And he talked to

807
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 3: the producer after we checked in. He was like, Hey,

808
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 3: I don't need that big room, Like it's just me,

809
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 3: my kids, my family's not here, Like, can I get

810
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 3: a smaller room? And our producer was like are you sure.

811
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, man, I'm not low maintenance. I'm no maintenance.

812
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 3: Like just give me a normal room. You don't pay

813
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 3: for this, because he knew we were a small budget film.

814
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 3: Like that was the way it started. He's just the

815
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 3: nicest guy.

816
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: See Jersey in the house.

817
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 3: I love that representing.

818
00:39:54,200 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing.

819
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: We have come to that point of the show where

820
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: I ask every single guest who comes on, what is

821
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: one thing that you have never said before? So whatever

822
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: you're comfortable with sharing. I know you guys over the

823
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: years have done so many interviews and have talked about

824
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: so many things, so it might be challenging, but can

825
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: you think of anything that you have never said.

826
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 3: Before, never said before. I've been proudly open about my

827
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 3: own relationship with mental health, and that Always Keep Funding

828
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 3: campaign has been a great help for me, and I

829
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 3: think for many others that have expressed that it's helped them.

830
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 3: So I'll say this. It was twenty fifteen, at a

831
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 3: really low moment. I was open about going back and

832
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 3: going to therapy and going to a clinic, but I

833
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 3: was letting my thoughts kind of take over and go

834
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 3: into a place of like dramatic suicidal ideation, and called

835
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 3: my wife and she said get home, And so at home,

836
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 3: went to a clinic for a couple of weeks and

837
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 3: looked into it and haven't been suicidal since, not not

838
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 3: for a moment that hadn't been said. There are still

839
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 3: highs and lows that we talked about earlier, like you're

840
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 3: not you're a human, I'm a human, She's a human.

841
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 3: Everybody who's listening to this presumably as a human going

842
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 3: to be a human. So there are highs and lows,

843
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 3: and I don't know about what I have never said,

844
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 3: but I will say this for now, as I said

845
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 3: here today, today's a low just and I'm fine, nothing

846
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 3: to worry about, but there's a lot of I have

847
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 3: a lot of sadness about Walker the family, and again

848
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 3: my tears aren't for myself. But I know I'll be

849
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 3: fine because I'm talking to you about it. I talked

850
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 3: to Jen about it, I talked to my friends about it.

851
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 3: And so just to please please be open, please share,

852
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 3: Please find somebody, whether it's a friend or professional, and

853
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 3: speak and speak your truth. And just because you're low now,

854
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 3: you know, meet with triumph and disaster and with those

855
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 3: two imposters just the same, I know the other shoe

856
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 3: will drop. And I have friends I love, a new

857
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 3: friend I love, and family I love. So just excited

858
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 3: to be up there, be open, and something you said

859
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 3: earlier or Jen said earlier, will see just those two

860
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 3: words or one contraction and one word, but we'll see,

861
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 3: you know, something seems great, might not be. We'll see

862
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 3: something seems terrible. We'll see. Like keeping an open mind

863
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 3: and looking to tomorrow, looking to next week, next month,

864
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 3: next year has helped a lot. So just that, just

865
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 3: thinking about like, hey, we'll see.

866
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 2: Thank you for opening up about that.

867
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Jim, before we get to you, Jared, I

868
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: think that it's so impoor and more and more people

869
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: talk about that. And you brought up something specifically that

870
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 1: I do want to touch on a little further because

871
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people would feel safe

872
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 1: or often enough to reveal that. And you mentioned a clinic,

873
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: and I presume that's a place you actually went for

874
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: a period of time to get some help. And I

875
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know if you if you've talked

876
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 1: about that before or not, but I thank you for

877
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 1: that because I don't think people there's such a stigma

878
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 1: surrounding that. Still, there's a huge stigma around mental health still.

879
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I've lost a friend to her mental health struggle,

880
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: which was a horrifying time in my life, and I

881
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 1: don't think people talk about that enough, but people certainly

882
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: don't talk enough about going to a place to actually

883
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: get the help. So thank you for sharing that and

884
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: for people listening who might feel like that's something they

885
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: could never bring themselves to do, even though they might

886
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: need to do that.

887
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: What would you.

888
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 3: Say, Well, first, I don't think everybody needs it. I

889
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 3: got to a place where I needed it. I needed

890
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 3: a full reset. I had spent you know, fifteen years

891
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 3: in this industry where I was. You know, when you

892
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 3: go to an audition or a red carpet, they don't

893
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 3: want like, Jared, how are you doing today? Oh? Man,

894
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 3: today was rough and like I didn't sleep. They want like, oh,

895
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 3: it's great, like excited to be here, excited to be

896
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 3: you know. So I had done that for so long,

897
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 3: trying to focus, Like we talked earlier about like what's

898
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 3: best for the person who's talking to me as opposed

899
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 3: to like just being honest. And there's a time of place.

900
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 3: I don't wear it as a scarlet letter, Like it's

901
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 3: not like I'm shameful, Like, hey, I see a therapist.

902
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 3: I've been to a clinic. I like wear proudly, like

903
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 3: I put it on my face and like tell everybody

904
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 3: like yeah, dude, if you're not in the situation where

905
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 3: you need that degree of help, then don't seek it.

906
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 3: But I needed a surgeon, not literally, but you know

907
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like, yeah, I needed it, and here

908
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 3: I am, and I've never been, Like I said, today's

909
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 3: a hard day. It's been a hard month since we

910
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 3: found out, But I'm in a great place with my wife,

911
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 3: our children, my friends, my family, and so I'm certain

912
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 3: without Jen and without my time spent really going like Okay,

913
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 3: these feelings and thoughts are real feelings and thoughts, but

914
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 3: they're not reality, Like how do I put those over there?

915
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 3: And like, Okay, I'm feeling really excited, that's going to change.

916
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 3: I'm feeling really down, that's gonna change. I'm feeling really anxious.

917
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 3: That's going to change. So just to look seek help,

918
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 3: open up, even if you don't think you need it,

919
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 3: Like even if you're doing it, like, hey, you're fit,

920
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 3: you're healthy, why not talk to a nutritionist? Why not

921
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 3: get a personal trainer to show you how to properly

922
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 3: do the squads? Like why not, like we spend all

923
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 3: this time, you know, we have financial planners. If you're

924
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 3: fortunate not to have a job, you have prospit trainers

925
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 3: or Orange theory or whatever showing you how to properly

926
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 3: do a row, Like why not look at your brain?

927
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 3: Like you live in your brain? You know, we don't

928
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 3: have a brain. We are a brain and our body

929
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 3: just follows, So why not, Like it seems so silly

930
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 3: to not want to look into it, but not silly.

931
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 3: I don't want to want to make it sound flippant,

932
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 3: but if you have the opportunity, there are a lot

933
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 3: of resources out there, so please, please please please look

934
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 3: into it. And it's great, it feels great, that's a

935
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 3: great work.

936
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: Again, I'm so happy you're putting that out there. That's

937
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: something very important and a message that we never should

938
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: get tired of hearing.

939
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 2: So thank you for that. And Jen, what about you?

940
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 4: I'm not going to mention where what city hotel is

941
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 4: a more fun one. We went to bed and did

942
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 4: what married couples do or couples do, and in this

943
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 4: particular hotel room was not a configuration that I was

944
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 4: quite used to. And I wake up.

945
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 7: And I realized that the door is closing on me.

946
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 4: And I'm in the hallway of the hotel and I'm

947
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 4: butt naked. No, I'm asleep, he's he's sleep.

948
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 7: I don't know where I am, but I just know

949
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 7: that the door just clicked and it kind of hit

950
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 7: me in the butt, and I'm like, where am I?

951
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 4: Where am I? Why am I?

952
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 3: Where?

953
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 4: What is happening right now? So I'm like I'm sweating

954
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 4: thing about I'm sweating everywhere I'm like, I'm sweating it. Well,

955
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 4: I'm sweat dripped out my body. I'm a butt naked

956
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 4: in the hotel. In the hallway. I'm going to go

957
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 4: to the elevator section. There's usually a phone there. Like

958
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 4: in my mind, I'm gonna dig myself out of this.

959
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 4: I'm gonna figure this out. I'm gonna bang on the door.

960
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 4: Jared's gonna come out. It's gonna be fine.

961
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 3: Like it's like two am. I'm the sixth floor hotel.

962
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 4: Don't even say don't think I'm not saying.

963
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 2: You're like, I don't want video footage to be pulled up.

964
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 4: I do want video to God, I don't even want

965
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 4: to know what happened. I don't want to see this.

966
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 7: So I have the bag out of the door and

967
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 7: I'm like quietly baking me have the door said, I

968
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 7: want to wake anyone or someone looking through their people

969
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 7: like my naked ass.

970
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 4: So I'm like bay out.

971
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 8: The door, like please please answer the door, ring the bell, nothing,

972
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 8: and there was like a little living area, so I figured, well,

973
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 8: he probably can't hear it.

974
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 4: So I start kind of walking my way down the

975
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 4: hallway and I go through a door not even thinking

976
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 4: about it, but our bedroom was attached to where this

977
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 4: through the door. So I go through the door but

978
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 4: realize it's cinder.

979
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 7: Block, and I'm in the stairwell and I've locked myself

980
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 7: in the stairwell and I'm butt naked.

981
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 4: There is like nothing.

982
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 7: Around me except a cinder block, a door that's closed

983
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 7: in a stairwell, and some insulation on the ground that

984
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 7: I decided to.

985
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 4: Pick up and cover half my body with.

986
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 8: So I fiberglass and asbestos off my butt and this

987
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 8: is so this is like a funny question, Like I

988
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 8: had to like kind of cover my body and like

989
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 8: cover half of it.

990
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 4: And I've had friends comment like, well, why would you

991
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 4: cover like one boob and one butt? Shet like how

992
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 4: did you know?

993
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 2: What?

994
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 4: Up? I have comments on my choices of what I'm coming,

995
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 4: but I was, like I felt I was just doing

996
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 4: my best.

997
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 8: So I'm like tiptoeing my way down theirs like six, six, seven,

998
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 8: eight nine, Who knows.

999
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 4: How many don'ts me out to the backyard of the

1000
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 4: hotel where the pool is buck my life. So I

1001
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 4: go in and the only way in is through the.

1002
00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:00,919
Speaker 9: Bar, which is very It's closed, but there's a whole

1003
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 9: cleaning crew, and it's very well lit and it's horribly lit,

1004
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 9: in fact, so much so that you can see everything.

1005
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 4: And so I'm like, hey, anyone know where the lobby is?

1006
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 4: It just like it was like, and everything goes quiet

1007
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 4: and they're like looking at me and just like point.

1008
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 7: Oh imagine, I've never said this before.

1009
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 4: So I walked through the lobby. It's a lady there.

1010
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 4: She's like, can I help you? I was like, yes,

1011
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 4: can I have a rub leady as so politely like

1012
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 4: some idiot, and she's like, okay, what's She goes and

1013
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 4: I said, I left myself out of my room? Can

1014
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 4: you please a new back? And yeah, Basically she's like,

1015
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 4: what's your name? I was like Jennevie Padalaki. She's like okay,

1016
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 4: so I obviously don't like have any idea on me,

1017
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 4: and so he has to want me into the elevator.

1018
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 2: No elevator, oh god, Like.

1019
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 4: She like lets me into the room. I was like, no,

1020
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 4: see this is my room.

1021
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 9: My husband's asleep over there, like and like you know,

1022
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 9: she got proof of this is my room.

1023
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 4: I'm not some weirdo, like I swear like I know him.

1024
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 3: I promise she woke me up. I woke up out

1025
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 3: of swords and I was also like looved. She's like

1026
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 3: I was naked outside with as bestos, but I was

1027
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 3: all over my butt. I was like, what are you

1028
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 3: like you have like a nightmare? Like she don't have

1029
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 3: night terrors. It's like what's going on on a wake

1030
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 3: up walk? Sleepwalk?

1031
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 4: I cannot even.

1032
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 7: Tell you the story, but I'm telling the story because mortifying,

1033
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 7: Like it's one of those moments where.

1034
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 4: I was like, it's like when you're naked on like

1035
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 4: you dream about these moments of like being in class,

1036
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 4: like butt naked, and you know, you think of four stories,

1037
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 4: and like it fucking literally happened to me. And I'm like, okay,

1038
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 4: just go to sleep. Like it's like count to ten.

1039
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 3: What can I do?

1040
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 4: I have to go to say, Okay, I have to sleep.

1041
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 4: I sleep sleep. Then the next morning we have like

1042
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 4: I will say, when we checked into the hotel, there

1043
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 4: was maybe one or two people we called down for

1044
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 4: the car, and I shit, you not. I think every

1045
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 4: single person who worked for this hotel chain was all

1046
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 4: lined up just waiting for me, like it was the

1047
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 4: walk of shame, and so I just what some less

1048
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 4: is on?

1049
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 8: And I walked my little strutted right out there with

1050
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 8: like mustard any confidence I could find.

1051
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 4: Gone to the car and I was like, drive, we

1052
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 4: gotta go, we gotta go.

1053
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 3: Now get.

1054
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 7: It was just like just so wild that you have

1055
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 7: to like laugh at the at the experience of the

1056
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 7: absurdity of being in this moment.

1057
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 4: And then what was really funny is we had a

1058
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,919
Speaker 4: dinner with some friends and I was like, oh, my god,

1059
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 4: just just happened. And then they were all, yeah, that

1060
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 4: happened to me. I was in the elevator too, and

1061
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 4: I was like, oh.

1062
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 3: My god, Okay, I'm got It's so funny you told

1063
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 3: the story. I was sworn to secrecy. I think I

1064
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 3: told my brother and then she found out I told

1065
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 3: him and she was like ever. I was like, okay,

1066
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 3: well that's fine. So I can't believe she just shared

1067
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 3: that with people.

1068
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 1: Well that's a That's probably one of the best stories

1069
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: I've ever heard of my entire life. I think the

1070
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: headline that y'all are skipping over is something happened in

1071
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: that bedroom that put you both into trance.

1072
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 3: So there you go, two of you that all right,

1073
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 3: it's better, Yeah, take two will be better. Well to the.

1074
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 2: Two of you.

1075
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: There's some magical shit happening over in that bed. So

1076
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: I see how, I see how you guys are all

1077
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: you guys, this, this conversation has been so much fun today.

1078
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 1: I love that we talked about, you know, the projects

1079
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: that people love, but really got to open up in

1080
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: in deep and meaningful ways. And I mean I just

1081
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: looked at the time and I'm so sorry I've kept

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Speaker 1: you for so long, but I feel like talking to

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Speaker 1: you guys could last for eight hours. So I really

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Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on the show. I hope you guys

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Speaker 1: wtuate it as much as I as I have.

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Speaker 4: Well huge fans of your Yeah, we just you know,

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Speaker 4: we're so grateful to We feel like the ship being like, wow,

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Speaker 4: Tommy has is to be on the show. We're so

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Speaker 4: excited and we've been wanting to be on your show

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Speaker 4: for a long time. So we feel really honored and lucky.

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Speaker 4: And you just feel like an old friend and so

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Speaker 4: I'm excited to hang out more.

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Speaker 3: And there are are amazing, beautiful mutual friend. Katini tomorrow

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Speaker 3: spoke super highly of you, and I was like, you

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Speaker 3: can't live up to that, but you surpassed. Yeah, you're

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Speaker 3: a great soul. Thank you so much for being here

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Speaker 3: and thanks for being a love.

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Speaker 2: Oh thank you guys.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that you have a friend and forever fan

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Speaker 1: of me now and I look forward to making some

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Speaker 1: memories in the future.

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Speaker 4: Can't wait, hopefully not running naked through a hotel.

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Speaker 1: Never say never. I am from Journey and we're a

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Speaker 1: little crazy, So yeah.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you.

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Speaker 1: Never know, you never know, all right, I see you

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Speaker 1: guys soon and contracept I've Never Said This Before is

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Speaker 1: hosted by Me Tommy Didario. This podcast is executive produced

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Speaker 1: by Andrew Puglisi at iHeartRadio and by Me Tommy, with

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Speaker 1: editing by Joshua Colaudney. I've Never Said This Before is

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Speaker 1: part of the Elvis Duran podcast network on iHeart Podcasts.

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Speaker 1: For more rate review and subscribe to our show and

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Speaker 1: if you liked this episode, tell your friends. Until next time.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tommy Diderio.