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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast Doesn't trust men in Fedoras.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosa. Thought, what's up, boys? Hey dann uh Happy Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: We're in the wrong city if we don't trust men

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Speaker 1: in Foedora's. Oh yeah, there's a lot of posers walking

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Speaker 1: around the city for doors. West, you own your baldhood

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Speaker 1: and you've embraced it, and you're you're pulling it off.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of men aren't comfortable with being uh

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Speaker 1: having receding hairline or a bald spot. You know, the

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Speaker 1: old Pete sampras ufo uh crop circle. These aren't the

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Speaker 1: people wearing for doors. Well, a lot of people do, though,

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Speaker 1: a lot of use it to cover up the baldness.

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Speaker 1: Who are you pointing to? West? What subset I'm talking to?

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Speaker 1: The poser is usually the guys hanging out in West

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Speaker 1: Hollywood with their golden locks of hair underneath it for door,

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Speaker 1: waiting in line to get into clubs. As if there's

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Speaker 1: no other clubs in the city, they need to get

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Speaker 1: into that one club with the line West has been

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Speaker 1: going to clubs lately with a new girlfriend, and uh

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Speaker 1: so you have. You're starting to see a part of

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Speaker 1: the city that none of us has married. Old farts,

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Speaker 1: we don't see it. You're in there with a thumping

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Speaker 1: E d M. With the bottle service, with the Fedora's

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Speaker 1: take us behind the velvet rope. And we went one time,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not happy about it. I did it to

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Speaker 1: be a good boyfriend, and I had and I have

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Speaker 1: fun because the paramore's friends are fun. But that is

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Speaker 1: not my scene, and I can't believe it's really anyone scene. Well,

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Speaker 1: it is a lot of people have seen, right, especially

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Speaker 1: in l A, especially people under the age of you know, forty,

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Speaker 1: I'm way too old to be in a club. Did

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Speaker 1: they get you? Did you do any dancing? Did you

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Speaker 1: buy any bottles for people? I don't dance? But this way,

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Speaker 1: the one photo that showed up on social media, West

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Speaker 1: looked like he was photo shopped into the back of it.

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Speaker 1: Not the most comfortable setting for a West. I'm not

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Speaker 1: at home there, and that's totally fun. I'm not really

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even think this was played there.

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Speaker 1: It was more like you're better have my money. Are

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Speaker 1: you like that? Work work, work, work, work. It's all

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Speaker 1: that stuff where it's just the same line repeated over

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Speaker 1: and over and over again, and everybody loves dancing to it.

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Speaker 1: This entire segment, by the way, it was brought to

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Speaker 1: you by a conversation the upper floor thought we needed

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Speaker 1: to start reaching out to some of our younger and

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Speaker 1: I don't think they were like, get West to talk

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Speaker 1: about Rihanna. We need more millennial connection there is. There's

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Speaker 1: now six children involved with the direct Um, the four

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Speaker 1: of us heroes. West is the lone wolf now in

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Speaker 1: terms of out on the city. So whenever you do

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Speaker 1: have one of these experiences, even if it's because the

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Speaker 1: GF or paramour as you call her um takes you there,

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Speaker 1: you just gotta report back to us what's going out

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Speaker 1: out in the streets. Yeah, it's talking. You gotta let

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Speaker 1: us know what they're saying. I don't really have boots

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Speaker 1: on the ground when I'm at these places. I'm more

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Speaker 1: like a wallflower just sitting back and join the show,

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Speaker 1: drinking a few drinks. I don't like the assumption that

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Speaker 1: we are forbidden from, you know, going to the same

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Speaker 1: places market's over. I don't want to be the one

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Speaker 1: to tell you, but it's just not with the wedding

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Speaker 1: band with two kids at home. Okay, you pegged me.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to the same place as the West

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Speaker 1: Big Show. I'm not even going to the same places

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Speaker 1: as me Big Show today uh, sponsored of course by

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Speaker 1: Mr Flames Economics class in the Hague. The Netherlands got

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Speaker 1: the Monday night football game from Mexico City, Mexicola. I'm

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Speaker 1: very excited uh to talk about that game because that

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Speaker 1: was an interesting, if uh if the frustrating experience as

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Speaker 1: a fan. We have some news to get to, including

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Speaker 1: a certain nicotine loving quarterback out of the Illinois area. UH.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he actually smokes uh, but he's

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Speaker 1: associated with it for the last time. Our final stick

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Speaker 1: a Fork in Him committee gathering we met earlier today

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Speaker 1: had the Danish in the coffee and all that good stuff.

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Speaker 1: And we're going to fork some teams, finish out our

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Speaker 1: Sick of Fork uh series for the two thousand sixteen season,

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Speaker 1: and then we're gonna preview the three Thanksgiving games. WHOA, Greg,

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Speaker 1: that's a full meal, Baba. Let's get Let's get right

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Speaker 1: into it said little Monday Night Football. Monday Night Football.

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Speaker 1: They play the games on Monday night and it's televised.

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Speaker 1: Original lyrics. Yes, at Mexico City as Teca Stadium, as

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Speaker 1: Tech anybody, Yeah, you're close as Tech Stadium like that

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Speaker 1: thought as Techa Uh yeah. Which was a very fun environment,

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Speaker 1: uh to watch a game, and it looked like it

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Speaker 1: was a lot of fun to be there. The Houston

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans came out of their shell a little bit,

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Speaker 1: looked like a team that was on the verge of winning.

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Speaker 1: Had a lead, but the Oakland Raiders woke up from

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Speaker 1: a slumber and then after a controversial UM third and

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Speaker 1: fourth down UM set of downs in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr took the field and this happened. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: throw least real quick light. Tomari Cooper humor recover said

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Speaker 1: last bah toutch down writers thirty five yards. The past

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Speaker 1: was quick. Cooper caught it. He split two defenders off

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Speaker 1: to the racist touchdown Raiders. Armando can Taro Westwood one

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Speaker 1: Sports with the call that was the game winner. Final score.

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Speaker 1: The Oakland Raiders now eight and two, can you believe it?

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Speaker 1: The Houston Texans um Mark Sessler a frustrated uh six

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Speaker 1: and four now, and you can understand why absolutely. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I I think you know to pull back the curtain.

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Speaker 1: But we were all texting during the later stages of

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Speaker 1: this game, and I think the Texans off of a

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Speaker 1: the DeAndre Hopkins situation, which we can get into. But

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Speaker 1: for me, what really got me upset was watching two

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Speaker 1: for a critical fourth down late in the game, where

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Speaker 1: the refs seemed to be seen something completely different than

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Speaker 1: Gruden and every other single person watching this game. That

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Speaker 1: was an unbelievable job by the refs. Third and one right,

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Speaker 1: It was third and one and a carry where it

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Speaker 1: looked like, uh, it was Lamar Miller correct where he

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Speaker 1: the marker. Replays showed that it was clear, that one

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Speaker 1: could give him a little flak. He didn't challenge it.

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Speaker 1: That one looked like it could have been overturned. It

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Speaker 1: was pretty obvious. And then they go for in the

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Speaker 1: fourth down, which you gotta give to me. That's some

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Speaker 1: that's some pretty big onions that you're hanging there because

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Speaker 1: you can kick the field goal tie game and go

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Speaker 1: up three points at that point. But O'Brien said, you

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Speaker 1: know what, I want to go for this whole thing,

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Speaker 1: either get the touchdown or chew up the clock more

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't even want to hear it. They

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Speaker 1: this time it's challenged and they don't get it. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's why you can't criticize O'Brien for not challenging on

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Speaker 1: play later, they probably wouldn't have overturned it because fourth

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Speaker 1: He was he was right because his defense couldn't stop

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Speaker 1: if you thought you needed touchdowns, why are you punting

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Speaker 1: the ball on fourth and five with three minutes to go.

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Speaker 1: That was an unbelievable lack of faith in brock Osweiler,

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Speaker 1: felt them coming at you with the second half. They're

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Speaker 1: it's not a lack of onions either, because he just

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Speaker 1: so they had guts. I thought they outplayed the Raiders

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Speaker 1: and then the Raiders did what the Raiders do. The

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Speaker 1: you had the laser in brock Osweiler's eyes. That was

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Speaker 1: pointers back mark set by the poor footing for Raiders

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Speaker 1: wide receivers who were dropping passes. But then the altitude.

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Speaker 1: Both defenses were gassed in the fourth quarter, and because

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Speaker 1: Jack del Rio showed a lot of faith in Derek Carr.

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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien showed very little faith in Brock Osweiler with

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Speaker 1: the difference. The Raiders have a as Bucky Brooks would say,

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Speaker 1: Ostler at the end of the game. And it's the

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Speaker 1: exact opposite for the Raiders. I mean, the Raiders are

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Speaker 1: things seem to work. Mojo. You're a big fan of mojo.

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Speaker 1: Like the Texans felt like they won this game. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Bucks felt like they won their game against Oakland.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens felt like they won their game against Oakland.

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Speaker 1: The Chargers felt like they played out out played Oakland.

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Speaker 1: You can go back to about five or six of

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Speaker 1: these Raiders games where it seems like they just pull

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Speaker 1: The numbers say it. I mean Derek Carr, all those

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Speaker 1: throws around the money Jalen Jalen Reeschard from the Bayou.

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Speaker 1: a little more. Two big time plays, game changing plays,

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Speaker 1: the touchdown and then the big time call I thought

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Speaker 1: of the entire game was that second down deep throw

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Speaker 1: to Richard. That really that show a lot of onions.

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Speaker 1: I thought, I know that the numbers don't don't really

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Speaker 1: I thought there was some some strides from Oswilder here.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was competitive for the most part. This

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Speaker 1: big contract. But I thought west and you're shaking your head,

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Speaker 1: But I didn't think he was great and dark Carr

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Speaker 1: was superior. But I don't think he killed him in

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Speaker 1: this game like he's done in other weeks. I can't.

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Speaker 1: That's that's fair. But you're setting the bar awfully low.

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Speaker 1: name on the head coaching market and he would like

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Speaker 1: to set the record straight on During a Tuesday press

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Speaker 1: conference UH this, according to Boston Herald, McDaniels, UH cited

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Speaker 1: recent reports about him outlasting Bill Belichick and taking over

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Speaker 1: UH in New England, calling them unfounded, and then he

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Speaker 1: had this to say, I definitely definitely would love to

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Speaker 1: be a head coach again that from CSN New England West.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts on this, well, I kind of teased a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago that I wanted to talk about

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan and Josh McDaniels. Yeah, you know, you know

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Speaker 1: all about the Peter principal. Do you keep getting promoted

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Speaker 1: until you reach a point where you're basically gonna reach

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Speaker 1: a failure point, basically no longer eligible for the role,

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Speaker 1: You're going to have the four of us. I like

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Speaker 1: to call it the Tony Kornheiser principal back, you know,

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Speaker 1: and in late nineties he was the best sports radio

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Speaker 1: guy on air. He was good on p t I

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Speaker 1: and as soon as he went to Money Night Football,

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Speaker 1: It's like, this is a terrible idea. Why does nobody

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Speaker 1: ever realize their their limit, their ceiling, be satisfied with

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Speaker 1: being the best in the world at what you do.

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Speaker 1: We have in the NFL. We've been taught money is

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Speaker 1: the answer. Okay, that's fine, but happiness means a lot

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Speaker 1: more money to me. Ambition bites at the nails of success.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that means, but it sounds smart

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Speaker 1: to think about it. What I'm saying is we need

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Speaker 1: the three think the way that we assume that coaches

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Speaker 1: are gonna be hired by NFL teams. The top twelve

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Speaker 1: teams in the NFL right now, according to Football Outsider's offense,

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Speaker 1: not a single head coach calls the plays. So if

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Speaker 1: you hire Kyle Shanahan and Josh McDaniels, are you taking

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Speaker 1: away what they do best and making it a non factor.

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Speaker 1: What are they qualified to do as head coaches? They're

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Speaker 1: qualified to call plays and design offenses. I don't know

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Speaker 1: that that makes them great head coaches. Well, I I

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Speaker 1: totally agree. It's a it's a different skill set, which

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Speaker 1: is why I give the Ravens, for instance, credit when

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Speaker 1: they hired John Harbaugh. They saw him and the skill

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Speaker 1: set that he had as a special teams coordinator, as

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Speaker 1: a guy who could lead men, who could manage a

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Speaker 1: lot of different divisions, who can make decisions, who can

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Speaker 1: be organized. It's a guy who's it's not necessarily just

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Speaker 1: do you have a great offense. Now, with that said,

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Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels has been in the most successful organization that

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Speaker 1: hasn't worked for other Patriots assistants. I thought Dan pop

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Speaker 1: he didn't either, but I I thought he. Dan Pompey

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Speaker 1: wrote a great piece um about McDaniels this summer, a

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Speaker 1: lot of insight access where McDaniels said all this So

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Speaker 1: to me, this is not news, uh, in the sense

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Speaker 1: that he's out there saying he wants to be a

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Speaker 1: head coach. I think guys can learn from the first

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Speaker 1: time around. There is nothing better than than learning from experience.

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Speaker 1: I think Josh McDaniels even back during their Super Bowl appearance,

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Speaker 1: when we were there with Super Bowl Week and I

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Speaker 1: remember standing near McDaniel's talking to reporters and I he

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Speaker 1: explained how he had grown and what he had learned

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Speaker 1: from the Denver experience, which, by the way, it was

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Speaker 1: a long time ago. Uh. I took him at his word.

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Speaker 1: I think he I think he has. I would refute

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Speaker 1: the idea that we should stop hiring coordinators to become

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Speaker 1: head coaches because as often as it fails, and you're

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Speaker 1: right that the just hiring the hot name doesn't often

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Speaker 1: lead to success. Bill Belichick was a hot name and

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Speaker 1: one of the best defensive coordinators. You where you're gonna

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Speaker 1: hire them from. You're only gonna hire linebacking aids and

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Speaker 1: more too, offensive coordinators. Because we get it, when you

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Speaker 1: keep that job as head coach, you're not as able

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Speaker 1: to concentrate on the rest of the areas that head

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Speaker 1: coaches should be concentrating on. It's a good it's an

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Speaker 1: interesting take on where we should be playing coaches some

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Speaker 1: because there's obviously a lot of there's a lack of success,

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Speaker 1: their teams keep going through it. But a bright play

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Speaker 1: caller has also probably learned um from multiple head coaches

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Speaker 1: during his tenure. I think it looks it's not other

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Speaker 1: not they're a good play call What what they're gonna

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Speaker 1: do there? Where have they come from? Who have they

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Speaker 1: worked under? What is the overall philosophy These coaching interviews,

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Speaker 1: if they're done right, you find out about the man

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Speaker 1: in the organizational ability, not just what you what fancy

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. So it's a much larger question than where

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Speaker 1: they were before, what they were doing a new mark,

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Speaker 1: you would pound the table for the coordinators boys. But

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Speaker 1: in st I would say, But to West's point, though,

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Speaker 1: the I think it cuts against human instinct to say

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Speaker 1: I think I'm good enough and I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: keep trying to do more than this. But it's been

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Speaker 1: proven over and over that the hot coordinator is a

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Speaker 1: is a coin flip, right, and think of think of guys.

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Speaker 1: Some of the best coordinators in football right now, Rod Marinelli,

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Speaker 1: oh and sixteen lines uh, Wade Phillips maybe one of

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Speaker 1: the best coordinators of all time. I think you can

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Speaker 1: make the case you can put him in the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame for what he's done as a coordinator. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: that's the best way you're gonna be able to help

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Speaker 1: the team. And this is my point as a fan

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Speaker 1: of the NFL, it's off as a fan of good

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Speaker 1: quality football, I want Kyle Shanahan and Josh Josh McDaniels

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Speaker 1: concentrated on play calling, not running a team. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: it's also their offense and their schemes, and you would

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Speaker 1: hope That's the thing is that when I when you

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Speaker 1: hire a head coach, I think you want them to

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Speaker 1: bring something to the table. So it's nice when they

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Speaker 1: bring an offensive system to the table. So otherwise I

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Speaker 1: don't know what are you hiring. We all agree McDaniels

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Speaker 1: will have a new job. Yeah, I think it depends.

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Speaker 1: I think I want the New England thing is a

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Speaker 1: big factor. He's got a lot of kids, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure that he that he would just move the

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Speaker 1: family to the wrong opportunity to be the right opportunity.

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Speaker 1: There's two big factors. One do the Patriots make the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl? It says sometimes a big factor the teams

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Speaker 1: want to wait? And then to which jobs? You know?

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Speaker 1: I wrote about coaches on the hot seat little hot

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Speaker 1: butt talk um on this week's Stebrief NFL dot com slash.

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Speaker 1: There might not be a lot of uh job openings

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Speaker 1: this year. On paper, it might be three, you know,

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Speaker 1: it might and it might not be a ton. I

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Speaker 1: couldn't imagine him refusing, say a packers are cults opportunity

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Speaker 1: with Andrew Lucking and Roder, he gets the right job.

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Speaker 1: Let's move on um real quickly. One of my favorite

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Speaker 1: quotes of the year, uh from one a favorite of

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Speaker 1: the Round the NFL podcast, Steve Smith, speaking to Jenny

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Speaker 1: Brante's of The Monday Morning Quarterback, had this to say

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Speaker 1: about motivation at age thirty seven, at this stage of

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Speaker 1: his career, there are times when I go out there

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Speaker 1: and play and I look at it like this. Everybody

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Speaker 1: has kids, right, I want my son, if he decides

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Speaker 1: to play, he's playing against the guy who possibly I

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Speaker 1: played against his dad, and he could say, my dad

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Speaker 1: beat you like a drum, so I'm gonna beat you

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Speaker 1: like a drum. Generational ass whoopings. I look at it

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Speaker 1: like that generational ass whoopings. Steve Smith come back again

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Speaker 1: in two thousand seventeen, John Harball said he's welcome back,

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Speaker 1: absolutely welcome back. Mike Wallace is trying to recruit him

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Speaker 1: the come back for another year. I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: kind of doubt it will happen, but I'd like to

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Speaker 1: see it one this best Sunday. He's he's their best receiver.

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Speaker 1: It's the best offensive player not named Marshall Yonda. All right,

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Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news. Get out your cutlery, boys,

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Speaker 1: all right, this is our final uh final time, we

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Speaker 1: will convene the fork committee. Earlier today we uh we

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Speaker 1: met downstairs in a conference room. Mark brought coffee delicious.

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Speaker 1: Mark Uh. Greg, you brought locks gross. That was good,

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Speaker 1: but you need to bring bagels with them. I brought

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Speaker 1: the bagels. Wes, you brought up like a lot of muffins,

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Speaker 1: like a surprising amount of muffins. I love a good

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Speaker 1: knick knooks and crannies, the English muffin. You brought English

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Speaker 1: muffins as well, that's right. And we talked about the

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Speaker 1: teams that would be nominated for the fork and what

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Speaker 1: is the fork? If you're a new listener to the show. Uh,

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Speaker 1: when we decide to fork a team that means they

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Speaker 1: have no chance of making the playoffs, it's over, go home, smellulators.

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Speaker 1: Still listen to the show if you're a fan of

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Speaker 1: the team because you never know what will happen next

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Speaker 1: Onthing Around the NFL podcast, but your team season is over. Um.

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Speaker 1: Earlier this season, we forked the following teams, the Browns,

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Speaker 1: the forty Niners, the Jaguars, Jaguars, the Bears, the Jets,

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Speaker 1: and the Saints. We had a conversation a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks ago. The Saints were the only one that kind

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Speaker 1: of spooked us a little bit. But I'm feeling a

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Speaker 1: little better a couple of weeks later. Yeah, there're four

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Speaker 1: and six. They're still the only team on that list

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Speaker 1: with any chance to take the fork out. But it's

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Speaker 1: it's an uphill battle. So far, so good. But we

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Speaker 1: if we really, you know, if this exercise is going

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Speaker 1: to be effective at all, we need to you know,

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Speaker 1: up the numbers a little bit here. Hopefully we could

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Speaker 1: fork another five or so teams and get into double digits.

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Speaker 1: So let me just go down a list. I have

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Speaker 1: in front of me six nominees U to be four

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Speaker 1: uh here two days before Thanksgiving, and why don't we

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Speaker 1: start with an interesting one, the Arizona Cardinals. And this

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Speaker 1: is what we got going on with the Arizona car

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Speaker 1: team of a t L, former team of a t L,

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Speaker 1: which certainly means something. They are four, five and one. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they're their head coach just got out of the hospital.

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Speaker 1: He's been having health problems. Uh. They got beat by

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Speaker 1: the Vikings on the road pretty handily, even though the

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Speaker 1: score didn't look like it, and their next three four

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Speaker 1: games nothing easy. At Atlanta home to Washington at Miami,

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Speaker 1: home to New Orleans at Seahawks at Rams to close

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Speaker 1: the season. Are we ready to say goodbye to Arizona

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Speaker 1: no chance of making the playoffs? Mark, Yes, I am.

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Speaker 1: I think I think you know if anything were hours

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Speaker 1: away from December, on some level, West was ready to

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Speaker 1: do this weeks ago and I was not then, and

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Speaker 1: I would have put them a bunch of above a

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Speaker 1: bunch of other teams with a chance to climb back in.

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Speaker 1: Not now, West, I'm I'm imagining you still feel the

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Speaker 1: same way about Arizona, feel even more emphatic about it,

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Speaker 1: especially with those four tough roadue games Atlanta, Miami, Seattle,

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Speaker 1: l A all on the road, and we concentrate a

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Speaker 1: lot on offense and defense in this show. When the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals look back on this season, they can thank their

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Speaker 1: special teams for keeping them out of the playoffs. They

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Speaker 1: have been killed by special teams this year, and they

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Speaker 1: would have been six and two going into last week

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Speaker 1: if Cannazaro hit two of those. How different is that?

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Speaker 1: If he even just makes what was the equivalent of

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Speaker 1: an old extra point against the Seahawks in the six

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Speaker 1: games they don't give up a hundred and four yard

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Speaker 1: touchdown to Cordell Cordarol Patterson. But that said their offense,

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Speaker 1: You've a fatal flaw with your offensive line right now,

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Speaker 1: and that's not going That stuff doesn't get like Marson

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Speaker 1: Palmer doesn't look good. He's not moving well and he

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Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be this nothing wrong with his arm,

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Speaker 1: by the way. No, he made some good throws last week.

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Speaker 1: But the Cardinals their last eight plays last week against

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Speaker 1: the Vikings, maybe it was eleven place that they had

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Speaker 1: chances to try to win the game. Like, they didn't

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Speaker 1: have a single successful snap. Palmer was getting hit on

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Speaker 1: every one of three single play. There was either backwards,

637
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Speaker 1: no gain. It was like, hey, let's try to win

638
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: a game. No, let's try to get a yard. They

639
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: couldn't do that. It's out for there's no magic all right.

640
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: Cardinals forked Next up Mark Salstar team near and dear

641
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: to you. It's personal. Still not sure how it got personal,

642
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: but it is personal. The Green Bay Packers will start

643
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: right there. WHOA I'd be happy to fork the Green

644
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: Bay Packers. Um they've they scare me a little bit,

645
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: just because I think just what's woven into my memory

646
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: about who they've been for so long, but they are

647
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: not that team right now, and you've got to get

648
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 1: out of your own division. Number one, I think in

649
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: the NFC North, because there's a lot of teams in

650
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 1: the NFC with two or three more wins in them

651
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 1: right now. Here. Here's where they stand there, four and six.

652
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: They've lost four straight um and if you recall, and

653
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: this is something you think about. Even though this is

654
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: not the aime Packers team, they did almost be in

655
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: Atlanta on the road last thirty three thirty two when

656
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: that kind of put them to the tail spin a

657
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: little bit here, But this is what they got next

658
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,720
Speaker 1: at Eagles, home to Texans, home to Seahawks, at Bears

659
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: the next month. West where do you stand? I am

660
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: not forking the Packers. The Detroit Lions are not a

661
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: good football team. There are terrible defense. The Vikings, if

662
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: I remember correctly, Mark essentially wanted to fork them last week.

663
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: He said they have no chance of making the playoffs

664
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: because they were on a four game losing streak. One

665
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: win can turn all that around. This is a bad division,

666
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,479
Speaker 1: and the Packers close against the Vikings and Lions. That's

667
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 1: the key, that's key, and Aaron Rodgers, by the ways,

668
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: played played pretty well the last few weeks. I mean

669
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: they still have the best the best hope of a guy,

670
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: like seeing a quarterback dominate. Like if you push game

671
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: to shove, I take Rogers or Stafford the rest of

672
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: the year, I'd still take Rogers. Well, I didn't think

673
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: I was gonna get this done. I just simply a simple,

674
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: utterly board by the Green Bay Packers. I think they're

675
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: there's no way around it. I'm not. I'm tired of

676
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: assuming that they're gonna go right ten and six and

677
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 1: go in and get wiped out in the playoffs. Again,

678
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: get some fresh blood in there. If they don't win

679
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, they are three games back with five to play.

680
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: So as weak as that division is, that the math

681
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 1: is just tough. You gotta you're gonna have to start

682
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 1: winning some surprise games. I will say Mark is a

683
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 1: long term we're both long time members of the four Committee.

684
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: Those are kind of two separate things, though, whether you're

685
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: sick of the team and whether they actually can make

686
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I think they need to go five and

687
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: one down the stretch to be nine and seven. I

688
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: think Nate could take this it's a bad division. I think.

689
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: I think the other two one of those other two

690
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: teams is going to go three and three and get

691
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: to nine and seven. That's fair, all right, Well, we'll

692
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: see what happens. For now, the Packers are safe. The

693
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: next team we'll talk about. Let's swing over to the

694
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: a f C. Talk about a team close to Chris

695
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: Westling's heart, the Cincinnati and Galls, or that you could

696
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: not be farther from my heart. They used to be,

697
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: but maybe they be buried within not even that deep

698
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: a couple of layers into one of the ventricles. H West.

699
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: There would be no West close to your heart. No,

700
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: there is a west of us, because they're so far

701
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: from my heart that I have glee in their disappointment.

702
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: Ever heard of the phrase love and hate two sides

703
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 1: of the same coin. It's almost like an ex wife

704
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: or something like, you know, you've been through a lot,

705
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: you're battered, You almost kind of don't want to see

706
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: them succeed, or you don't and yett to maybe underneath

707
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: it all, your heart is still a little bit alive.

708
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: It happens all the time in America. People get divorced

709
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: and get recrried, I think a lot of times with

710
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: the next like a little night at the motel, something

711
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: like that. You have Bengals, I think a lot of

712
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: times with an ex wife. It would be natural to

713
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: him mixed feelings, it would be. It would be a

714
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 1: little unsettling if you were just flat out be mused

715
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: by their antics, by her antics. Well, that's how my

716
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: relationship with the Bengals. They they're endlessly entertaining to me.

717
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: All right, Well, here's what we're they're at right now.

718
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: The angles are three, six and one. Uh, they have

719
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: not one since they beat the Rounds last month. And

720
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: does that count? It technically counts, but we can't. We're

721
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: not handing out lollipops. Here's what they have coming up

722
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: at Ravens home to Eagles, at Brown's home to Steelers,

723
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: a lot of division games in there. I would have

724
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: forked them before they LOSTEO. Bernard and the Giant. I'm

725
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: with you, Greg, I think that I would be on.

726
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: I would looking at that schedule and seeing how many

727
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: division games they have, I would have said, let's hold

728
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: off on this. But the A. J. Green lost and

729
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: I know he's not having surgery. Uh, But their offense

730
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: GEO Bernard. That hurts, obviously, but no, aj, no hope.

731
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: I don't like these teams that can't protect the quarterback,

732
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: that have major problems up front, and they're back against

733
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: the wall, and there's any assumption that they're going to

734
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: turn it around. The Bengals are cooked. I tried very

735
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 1: hard to concoct, to concoct reasons why the Bengals had

736
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: a chance to salvage West of US. Can't do it.

737
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: They're gonna be three, seven and one after they lose

738
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: that Baltimore, and they will lose that Baltimore this I'm

739
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: gonna have to fork them because of the tie. I

740
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: could see eight wins, eight wins taking this division, but

741
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: the tie is gonna. I can't see this team winning

742
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: eight games without a j Green And they'll be lucky

743
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: to go to and four the rest of the cold

744
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: and they could go three and twelve. It wouldn't shock me.

745
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: They have to go five and one to get to

746
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: eight wins. I don't think that's possible. I agree with you,

747
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: they're much likely to. They're they're more likely to go

748
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: five ten and one than the hard to go seven,

749
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: and they're more likely it's more likely that they get

750
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: a top five pick than West of his continues at

751
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: this point, that's how things have derailed in Cincinnati. So

752
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: they got a coach to making progress here. You think's

753
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: got a hot but I don't think that organization is

754
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: one that is rooted to constant change. We know that

755
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: if anything, people would argue they kept Marvin Lewis for

756
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: too long. Marvin Lewis was ready to step away from

757
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 1: the team after two thousand seventeen put it in writing

758
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: if they agreed to hire Hugh Jackson at that point,

759
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: Mike Brown said, I'm not getting involved with that, which

760
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: I don't blame him. That's this weird Two years is

761
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: too long in the NFL to do some sort of

762
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: weird succession plan. But that shows you Marvin Lewis is

763
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: thinking about, like I kind of want to get out

764
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: of here soon. I think anybody who thinks that Marmon

765
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: Lewis is butt is hot because the Bengals might fire

766
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: them fire him has no appreciation for history with the

767
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: Bengals franchise whatsoever, or the way they operate. They're a

768
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: mom and pop organization. They don't operate like the other

769
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: thirty one organs. I think what we're saying, though, is

770
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: not him necessarily being fired, him walking away or going

771
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: into the front office, Like I couldn't see him staying

772
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: there and hiring a coach after You guys aren't the

773
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: only ones. Like a lot of people are saying Marvin

774
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: Lewis should be fired or will be fired. I don't

775
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: think that's the way Mike Brown does business. I've never

776
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: met Marvin Lewis. I've seen him at Hotel Ours at

777
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: the super Bowl, but I've never met the man. If

778
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: but if I were him, and I'm saying I'm looking

779
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 1: towards the end of the line here, I thought I

780
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: might have had a super Bowl team last year. I

781
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: got banged by an injury bug and then a crazy

782
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: playoff game the next year, we had some personnel issues.

783
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: How about this, we reload a little bit, we get

784
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: some better playmakers around us, We take another shot of

785
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 1: seen and if it doesn't work, then maybe it's not

786
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: for me. Yeah. I think he's got one more. Yeah,

787
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: go use your high draft picks and go compete. Rebuild that.

788
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: I mean, they don't even need to rebuild, They've already

789
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: got a good ros I've seen the thought in Cincinnati.

790
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: That's like, Okay, let's let's fire everyone, let's start over.

791
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: This regime's had its run. This windows closed. This team

792
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 1: has a lot of good young players. Their nucleus is around.

793
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 1: It's not really changing. I don't think their windows closed

794
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: at all. You know what Marvin Lewis can bring to you,

795
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: And you're right about the Browns aren't about to go

796
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: get rid of someone. But the thing is if you

797
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: if you fire someone, you've got to go find someone

798
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,479
Speaker 1: better to take his time. And those guys just starting

799
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: go hired Dave Schula. No, they're more likely to promote

800
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: Paul Gunther if they're gonna do anything. That's the way Bengals. Well,

801
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: you've let three head coaches get out of the building.

802
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 1: I don't think Paul Gunther at this point it looks good.

803
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: After you've you've got three after two playoff coach people,

804
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: we're talking about Gunther as a head coach prospect. Last

805
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: I'd rather hire Gunther the barista from the Friends coffee shop,

806
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: which which I think he's available. You have, you'd have

807
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: your options if you were somehow put into a front office.

808
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: Unlikely though. I met that gun Through at a Hollywood

809
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: bar like seven years ago. I had a pretty high,

810
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: you know, belief in himself. He doesn't strike me as

811
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: the charismatic type. I think that he he met you.

812
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: I don't think you met him. I think at this

813
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 1: point you're You've got more going on than Gunther from friends.

814
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 1: I would like those residual checks though, if he gets

815
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: any pop on that end. All right, Moving on the Chargers, Greg,

816
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: this one, now this is near and dear, you were

817
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: very felt, very strongly about this team. But they had

818
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,959
Speaker 1: to buy last week, the week before, just the killer

819
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: lass at home to the Dolphins. Uh. They let that

820
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: one get away. Phil rivers through four interceptions in the

821
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, as we know. Uh. And here's where they

822
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: are at four and six in a division where everyone

823
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: seems to be eight and two or close to it. Uh.

824
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: At Texans Okay, home to Bucks, at Panthers, home to Raiders,

825
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: at Brown's home to Chiefs. Now, understand, Greg, I know

826
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: where you want to go here, But you said yourself

827
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: last week. I'm with Greg. How bad that loss was

828
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: against Miami four and six? Go ahead? It was to

829
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: look at their schedule, it's but it's conceivable. It was

830
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: tough and they lost Brandon Mebane, which is a big

831
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: loss for them. They every week another big injury. I

832
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: don't care. Football is not logical. There run to the

833
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: playoffs a couple of years ago where they ended up

834
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 1: winning the last four games of the season, then winning

835
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: the playoff game, wasn't logical. This team, I like it.

836
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: I think it's got talent. I'm not giving up. Back

837
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: the truck up, Greg, You're you've just attempted to use

838
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: logic to explain why the rest of the teams we've

839
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: discussed our inner out and now logic because it suits

840
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: your whims. Snow bearing and again he basically told us

841
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: that the charges were done after last week, but now

842
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: they're back in so I've had a week to calm

843
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: down and let the emotions die down. Does this have

844
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: the DNA of a team that's gonna rip off six

845
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: straight wins? I get that their schedule is not sent

846
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: I think it does. I think it's if Eddie, if

847
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: I was, if I was picking a team that is

848
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: under five hundred, that would have the so to for

849
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: the sake of this exercise, you gotta pick a team

850
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: that's under five to kind of come out of nowhere

851
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: and win six. Yes, this is it because they got

852
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,959
Speaker 1: some talent. You're one of those fans that every loss

853
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: is a fluke and shouldn't have happened. Their longest winning

854
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: streak this year's two games, and now they're gonna rip

855
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: off five row. Oh and by the way, and I

856
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: don't know who who's buying it, maybe the Chiefs fall

857
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: apart a lot of things going wrong with They're not

858
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: going to be a heavy underdog in any of these games.

859
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: In fact, I would let me just and most of them,

860
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: the Chiefs have already beat them once, so that's basically

861
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: a playing game for them. They have to beat them there. Well,

862
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: they got to win all these games, but they also

863
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: lost to the Dolphins. So if the Dolphins are hanging

864
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: around at nine or ten wins, they lose them. Nine

865
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: wins gets in lots of crazy things happen. Now they

866
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: gotta have ten wins. They gotta get they gotta win

867
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: all sixties, all right, So you guys believe that could happen,

868
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: that's fine if you really want to be that way.

869
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: I just I want to be on record mark I

870
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: think you as well. There's what I'm not going to

871
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: be sitting in there on week seventeen, Sunday Night, Alan

872
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: Chris watching the Go Go Chargers get into the playoffs

873
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: that night on the backs of a Philip Rivers touchdown

874
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: to Hunter Henry and be like, why did we forked them?

875
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: I thought this could happen? What reality do you live in? Uh? Sydney?

876
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: Can we get the San Diego Superchargers? Sad piano music

877
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: queued up for Sunday Night? Absolutely? Okay. We have forked

878
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: two teams so far, the Baals and Cardinals next. Both

879
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: are broken teams. I don't think the Chargers are a

880
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: broken team. They're not broken, but they're four and six

881
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: in a conference where it's unforgiving and a division as well.

882
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: Let's move on to the Rams. They survive though. Yeah,

883
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: we gotta pick up the pace three games to preview.

884
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to Greg. Don't worry, we're getting there.

885
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: Sot to get Mark out on time. You know, I

886
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: am unwilling to leave the show early when we've got

887
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: a lot to do. Don't we start, don't Let's continue

888
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: as we need to do this in this segment. This

889
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: is some point. Thank you, Mark. I appreciate that this

890
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: one shouldn't be too complicated. The l A Rams are

891
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: four and six. We all believe they'll probably finish seven

892
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: and nine or eight and eight at Saints at Patriots,

893
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: home to Falcons at Seahawks. Smell you later, right, you're gone.

894
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: They're not getting to seven wins. They'll be lucky to

895
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: get six, all right there there. I love this statu um.

896
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: The beat writer from the Rams for ESPN dot Com

897
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: sent out the amount of losses after ten games for

898
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: the Rams the last six years six six six six

899
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 1: six six every year under Jeff Fisher the exact same year.

900
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: He's a metronome from hell. And I was like, why

901
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: did they phrase it that weird way? Because one year

902
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: there was a tie, so they were like three six

903
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: and well, Jared Goff, you can cite the rain, you

904
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: can cite uh. A rookie quarterback in his first start,

905
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: he was a down grade on case Kingdom. I'm sorry.

906
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: It was one game. He was a down grade. So

907
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: we expect him in a second career game to be

908
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: a major upgrade. You can't do first read and throw

909
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: it every single time, and that's what he did against

910
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, first read every time for form. Finally, and

911
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: this one who you know again goes to show you.

912
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: You never know in the NFL. Here we are before Thanksgiving,

913
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers four and six coming up. Oh man, guys

914
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: at Raiders at Seahawks, home to Chargers, who aren't gonna

915
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 1: lose again, according to half this room. At Redskins they could,

916
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: they could not lose brutals and then home versus the Dolkins,

917
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: they're done for coom that schedules brutal. And we don't

918
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: know about Luke, Keickley, Steatus. They would have forked him

919
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:56,919
Speaker 1: even if Keikley and Addison and whoever else they lost

920
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: in that game. That I'm forgetting for him. Kickley is

921
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: a big loss and you would have suer. You don't

922
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 1: know what the brain stuff head injuries. How long we'll

923
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 1: keep him out, but it could be the next two

924
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: weeks against two of the best teams in the league.

925
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 1: He missed three games last year with the Chiefs. Loss

926
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: is what really killed him this year. I mean they

927
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: still they would have been in a much better shape,

928
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: all right, and any X factors here? What was that

929
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: Connor keep pile? All right? Here we go, you guys ready,

930
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: here are the art teams for the two thousand sixteen season. Wait,

931
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: lost track, hang out and uh, lesson we can leaves

932
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: swear um. The Cincinnati Bengals, the Los Angeles Rams, beatles on,

933
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: the Cartains, the Carolina Panthers. You keep going, you're gonna

934
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: find that Scottish accent that's been so elusive. I guess

935
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: that's it and we uh, that's it for the season.

936
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: There we go. We have forked eight teams, no nine teams,

937
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: so you know there's thirty two teams in the league.

938
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: Then it's nine. Yeah. I would have called them as

939
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: bold would work. It should have been an even Yeah,

940
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: they're five and five. No, we didn't want it. Oh,

941
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: Greg saved them earlier in the year. Do you want

942
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: me to nominate the fucks for four king? We're not.

943
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: We're not working the bucks. If we didn't work, the

944
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 1: charges come on. That's not fair. Okay. I hope, I

945
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: hope they make it. But I don't feel too good. Okay,

946
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: we won't for those uniforms. Thanksgiving. Three games on the slate,

947
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: and we'll start with the team I'm around the NFL.

948
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: Such a big win in their building against the Cardinals

949
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: to break that four game losing streak. Now six and four. Uh,

950
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,919
Speaker 1: they control their destiny right now on that division, don't

951
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: they They're in first place right Well, if I don't

952
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: think any of these teams control their destiny, you know

953
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 1: what I mean, just because they're gonna have multiple losses,

954
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: they can't control a week. You know, they don't they

955
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 1: they're they're they're just trying to get a win. Each

956
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: of these teams. They're six and four, they're in first

957
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 1: place in the NFC North. Now they travel to Detroit.

958
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: So here we are to six and four teams. But

959
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Chris Westling, I feel like things

960
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: potentially setting up well again for the Vikings. The Lions

961
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 1: six and four, but as we know, have been trailing

962
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter of every game this season. Hardly

963
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: a juggernaut. Yeah, I know, I'm supposed to respect the

964
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: Lions during first place team. I don't respect him. I'm

965
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: so they're fun to watch. They're fun to watch. They

966
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: are far more entertaining than than they had any reason

967
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: to hope. But they could have lost all ten of

968
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: their games this year easily. I mean, I just I

969
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: can't take them seriously. When you're losing every game in

970
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,720
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, I can't take you seriously. In the Vikings.

971
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: I saw the pounding they put on Carson Palmer. The

972
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: Lion offensive line is much better than Arizona's, but I

973
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: still see the Vikings as a stronger of the two teams. Here. Well,

974
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: this is a game, a rematch from just a few

975
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: weeks ago, which I wish they wouldn't do that. This

976
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: was the Golden Tate you know, leg drop of Andrew

977
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: Sendejo game, and that was a game I believe the

978
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: Lions really couldn't run the ball at all. You expect

979
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,439
Speaker 1: that they won't be able to run the ball. Last week,

980
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: we asked on this podcast, Xavier Rhodes, make play, Everson Griffin.

981
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: Let's see, uh, you know, Anthony bar Let's make a play.

982
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: And you know what they did it. They took over

983
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: that game. All their big time defensive players took over

984
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: that game. And to me, their defense should be enough

985
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: to slow down a Lion's offense, which hasn't been as

986
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: explosive the last few weeks. I agree. I mean, the

987
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: Vikings haven't allowed any receiver all year to go over

988
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: a hundred yards, and if you look at Jim Caldwell's

989
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: tenure in Detroit, he hasn't had a hundred yard rusher

990
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: since he was hired. And that's short. It's I mean,

991
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 1: it's it's cults like on some level, and it's it's

992
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: um I think the factor that it's in Detroit actually

993
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: is big because Minnesota. To me in Minnesota is it's

994
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: just a different team. But Minnesota's defense in their secondary

995
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 1: were the difference last week. Their secondary was absolutely fantastic.

996
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: Had A had a season high fifteen hits on Carson Palmer.

997
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: I this I think, Dan, you said this might be

998
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: a good spot for them. It might be, and it's

999
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: and I think if you lose this game in your Minnesota,

1000
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: I'd know what's happening from here on out. You win it,

1001
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: you're seven and four on top of a division that

1002
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,280
Speaker 1: is not very good, right because you're essentially two games

1003
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: back if you lose this because the Lions, the Lions

1004
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 1: will have swept. You need it, Gotta get it, gotta

1005
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: have it, need it, and gotta have it Lions. Lions

1006
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 1: need to get a pass rush going a little more consistently.

1007
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: I know one ezekiel Ansa has proved particularly disappointing to

1008
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: one member of our podcast. Yeah, it hasn't been a

1009
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: great week for me. You you you famous put a sandwich?

1010
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 1: What was the sandwich that Ziggy Ansa would have fifteen sacks?

1011
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: He was third last year and how many not sandwich

1012
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: Greig four sandwiches zero zero sacks. Well, that's part of

1013
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: the reason why the Lions passer rating on defense is

1014
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: one oh eight point five, which would be the third

1015
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 1: highest since the NFL merger in nineteen seventy. Sam Bradford

1016
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: can pass on this team. He has a one thirty

1017
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: one rating on pass is over twenty yards. He's going

1018
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: downfield this year. Adam Fealing good game last week. Cordarrel

1019
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: Patterson a unique receiver with that explosiveness in physicality. I

1020
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: think the Vikings passing game is better than if they

1021
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: get protection, they can do Something's been a little better

1022
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,439
Speaker 1: since they went to Shechrmer. You're averaging six more points

1023
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: a game. That's what Pat Schremer does for you. If

1024
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: I want to find out, I mean Stefan Diggs did

1025
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: not practice again today on Tuesday, time to go before

1026
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: the game, but that would be a major loss for them.

1027
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he's your downfield element. That's a that's the thing.

1028
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 1: The lines have more bodies. I mean they have Tate,

1029
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: they have Ebron, they have Riddick, they have more. Noticed

1030
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: you didn't mention Marvin Jones who have four eight yards

1031
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: in his first three games and only two sets and

1032
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: his last seven combined. What happened to Well, they're using

1033
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: Tates so much more. Why can't they use both of them? Challenge,

1034
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I'm sure they'd love. They've been trying to

1035
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 1: get Marvin Jones involved in De's and he's getting a

1036
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: lot more defensive coverage. Now it hasn't worked. You know

1037
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: who did a good job in this first game. Trey

1038
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 1: Waynes was all over him, pretty much shut them down

1039
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: in the first time these teams played. Let's pick this game.

1040
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: I want to check in on something here, Mark you first.

1041
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Vikings Vikings. Well, I like it, team

1042
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: of a t L across the board. There you go,

1043
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: the Vikings across the board. It's Thanksgiving time now, this

1044
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 1: is where it gets real. Vikings gotta stack up some wins. Sorry, Patra,

1045
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: not humiliate us in a big spot. So let's go Vikings.

1046
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: Next up, let's talk about Oh, you know, before the

1047
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 1: this this little studio came around to the NFC East,

1048
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: the old Juser was flying that flag, and I just

1049
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: want to I welcome, just like the team of eighty

1050
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: years past. I welcome, Yes, I welcome you guys on

1051
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: to how fun the NFC East is. So because you

1052
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 1: liked the NFC East when they were horribly boring and wretched.

1053
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: Always know, some of us always saw the positive elements

1054
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Speaker 1: of the division, and it was one of those, you know,

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00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: Dan Hans's narratives that it would be easier for you

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00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:02,439
Speaker 1: just to get in line and accept on air's great

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00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 1: guys whatever day. I'm just saying, you know, a lesser

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00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: man might say, oh, now you're gonna have some fun

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00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 1: with NFC East after you've been bagging on it for years.

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00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: That's what analysts come on board suddenly just said that

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00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: to us. So you're saying some divisions, you know, quality

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00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: go up and down over time. Welcome back, Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: That's all I can say. I've been here the whole time,

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00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: keeping the lights on NFC East battle between the Redskins

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00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys at Big D and I love this man.

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Speaker 1: This is the best matchup of the day to me

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00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: because we the alright the week the Kirk hold on

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00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 1: the Kirk Cousins, led Redskins and Kirk all right, yeah,

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00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,919
Speaker 1: come back to me a little bit. You know, he's

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00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: airing the ball. What a tremendous game he had on

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00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: Sunday night. Then he's he's going up to his GM

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00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 1: and roping catch phrases on his GM. Calm down with

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00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: that part, let's finish the season out. We gotta get

1074
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: that as a sound trap. It wasn't a catchphrase. That

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00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: was a genuine moment that someone happened to catch on

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00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: their camera. I love the fact that he's going up

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00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: to his boss and basically saying, Hi, elect me now.

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00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you like to do that after a great end

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00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: around post, just like go right into Tom Brady's office

1080
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: and be like, how you like me? Now? I just

1081
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: dropped the metrics, Greig, who now is site himself about these.

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00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be a cool job to have? You know

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00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: that you could just starting quarterback in the NFL. Yeah,

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00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You could just drop that on

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00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: your boss. Give me some money, Greg confused thousands of listeners.

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00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: There's a Tom Brady that works here as well, not

1087
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: the NFL quarterback, famous shadowy leaked figure Tom Brady anyway,

1088
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: So Kirk Cousins played out of his mind in poor

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00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: conditions on Sunday Night football and bombing the Packers, and

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00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: now he goes to Detroit to Dallas where the Cowboys

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00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: are obviously beating everybody. They haven't lost the game in

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00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: like seventy six days, their nine and one. Something's gotta

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00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: give here, Greg ros Atal, what does well? I would

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00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: say the Redskins defense a group which has flummixed me

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00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: all year. I'm not sure if they're good, if they're bad,

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00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: if they're exciting, if they're boring, their their middle of

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00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: the road. I think what they are is overachieving. I

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00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: think they've done a good job with what they have,

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00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: But I don't think there are any match for a

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Speaker 1: team like the Cowboys, who eventually ground down Philadelphia and

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00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: they ground down Baltimore. They're gonna have their way with

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00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: with Washington. There might not may be any drives in

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Speaker 1: this game, though, now that I think of it, I

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00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: mean the team many drives, two teams that just hold

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00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: the ball in these long drives. Maybe maybe that makes

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00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: it a close game. I don't need to sell this

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00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: game to Mark Sessler, who is about to have a

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00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: football gasm when these two teams take the field. As

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00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: much as you have liked these two teams over there,

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00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: that's a good point six weeks or so. But I'm

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00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: going to sell it anyway. These are the two best

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00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: Red Redskins and Cowboys teams of the century. Wow, And

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Speaker 1: I don't even I don't think this is the best

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00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: say and this is the best Redskins. I think you

1115
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: can certainly debate that about the Cowboys in their two

1116
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: thousand and you love their two thousand what was it

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00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: the thirteen and three two seventeen. It was a good

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00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: team that they had. They had a better defense, I

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00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: would say, maybe then, and just about as good an

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Speaker 1: offense the Cowboys. The Cowboys are number five and scoring

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00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 1: defense this year, their number three in rushing defense. They

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00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: have gone eight straight games over four yards on offense,

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Speaker 1: something only been done by the two thousand thirteen Broncos

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Speaker 1: in two thousand seven Patriots. This is a well rounded

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Speaker 1: team and they've never won eight straight games in a

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Speaker 1: regular season before. This team is doing things the Cowboys

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00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: have never done. And the Redskins are on pace to

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Speaker 1: same sept franchise records and yards, passing yards and yards

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Speaker 1: per play. I mean the Cowboys are built in a

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Speaker 1: way that this is their time of year. You want

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00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: to talk about a team, it's one of the few

1132
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: teams in the league that says, come at us, try

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00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: to stop Ezekiela, try to stop us from running fourteen

1134
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: in fifteen play drives to take nine minutes off knock

1135
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: not all Ezeki Elliott. That eight minute drive or seven

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01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: minute drive last week to close out the game was

1137
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: not all. It was Doc and it was Dez Bryant,

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01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 1: Cool Beasley and Jason Witten and Terrence Williams. My concern

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01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: in this game if you're Dallas and I look, I

1140
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: think they're gonna win the game. But Mo Claiborne, Buried

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01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: Church both out potentially looks like they will be And

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01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: you're looking at a Redskins offense that doesn't need eight

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01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: minutes to score. They are Kirk Cousins was dropping dimes

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01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,439
Speaker 1: last week, huge plays, and they are connecting on big plays.

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01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 1: Jamison Crowder games in the last four weeks. If one

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01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: guy's out, the next guy steps in for the Washington

1147
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: and seeing Garzone go deep was a good sign for them.

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01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: You're right, they have expanded their offense whereas now they

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01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,479
Speaker 1: get big plays, and those were not there until about

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01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: two or three weeks ago. It's crazy, West, I'm trying

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01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: to think of a Redskins team. You might be right

1152
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: that this theme is from Redskins. I mean the RG

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01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: three year they were solid. They were I think the

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01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: year that Brunel was their quarterback. Clinton Portis was still

1155
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: in his prime in Santana. Moss was still on his

1156
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: PRODM ten and six team that loses in the first round. Right,

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01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: this team, I think is better and more explosive. I

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01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 1: think there is a recipe for them to win here,

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01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: which is just that you know there's three or four

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01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: drives per team per half, and that Washington's offense is

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Speaker 1: good enough to just keep scoring every drive. And you

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01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 1: know it's twenty three to twenty six minutes left in

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Speaker 1: the fourth. You know they forced Cowboys to kick a

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01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: couple of field goals, they got a chance. Ezekiel Elliott's

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01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 1: second worst day came against the Redskins, but I would

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01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: argue that was in a week two before the real

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01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott emerged. I agree, And not much would surprise

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01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 1: me about this game. One of the few things that

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Speaker 1: would surprise me as if the Redskins shut down. It's

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Speaker 1: crazy to think back to week two because I would

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01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 1: have never guessed that these teams would have been that

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Speaker 1: this good week too. I would have thought these teams

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01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: are kind of mediocres. I mean, they're at best the Redskins.

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Speaker 1: They weren't this good in week two. You guys all

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01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 1: got the Cowboys here? Yeah, yes, I think this is

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01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: the week they're gonna hit his be but Washington's gonna

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Speaker 1: pick him off on Thanksgiving. You're gonna lock it up.

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Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. That would be a crazy one to

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01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: what it's at. It would fit your definition of luck. Well,

1180
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 1: you gotta be truly confident. I'm not that confident about it.

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01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 1: I just feel that you don't understand the segment West

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01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 1: when I don't. When when you figure it out, we'll

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01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 1: talk about it. Finally, Pittsburgh Travels to Indianapolis is the

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01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:30,439
Speaker 1: NBC sun Thursday night affair, and uh, this one took.

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01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 1: We had a bit of a back and forth in

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01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: the newsroom on Sunday about whether this was game was

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01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: good or not, and Greg got very excited and animated

1188
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: and explained, Oh, this is your chance to see to

1189
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: the great quarterbacks of the generation. Oh only now we

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01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: find out that one of them, Andrew Luck, probably is

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01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: not gonna play because he has a concussion, and that

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01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: leaves us with Ben Roethlisberger against Scout scout, and I

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01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: can't get excited about this game. You know, that ruins it.

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01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 1: I mean, in Greg's defense, I think that the big

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01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: Ben Andrew Luck game from a couple of years ago

1196
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: was the most exciting I've seen in my life. There too,

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Speaker 1: two of my favorite five or six quarterbacks went off

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01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 1: about this. They got really personal and why why David

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Speaker 1: Ely was He was saying it was not that great

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01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: a game, like that's a good game, actually care with

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01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,919
Speaker 1: the record exactly what They're both in the playoff mix.

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Speaker 1: Eally and I were talking about the game and Greg

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01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 1: was kind of slumped at his computer working and then

1204
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 1: out of nowhere, Gregg just starts firing shots at Eally, like,

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01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 1: you know, basically tell him he doesn't know what he's

1206
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: talking about. It was. It was fun like Boss heat.

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01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,479
Speaker 1: It was a little a little former Boss against current

1208
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: Boss here. I like that territory. That's just me being comfortable,

1209
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: you know. I like to making other people come make

1210
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 1: my opinions known. So the Steelers, who need this game

1211
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: obviously in the worst way, get just a massive break.

1212
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: And you know, you know, teams get lucky sometimes, so

1213
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: they should be able to take care of business, right.

1214
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: I mean, for those of us who believe that Andrew

1215
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: luck carries a horrendously weak roster, we're gonna get to

1216
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 1: see if that's you know, how much of that is true.

1217
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Speaker 1: Can Scott Tolzine do anything against a mediocre Steelers defense.

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01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: I mean, we haven't seen we haven't seen Tolzien since

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01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 1: you essentially, and if you would have told me that

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Speaker 1: he was out of the out of football's I would

1221
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 1: have believed you that. Yeah, I just completely I thought

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01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 1: that name was like he graduated from you know, Tulsa

1223
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 1: back in nineteen, would not have been something that's like

1224
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 1: a preteen in ninety eight. But fair enough. I mean,

1225
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Speaker 1: but it's Andrew Luck, who, despite taking the sacks he does,

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Speaker 1: in his ability to throw under pressure. They they've allowed

1227
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 1: thirty five sacks. That's the most on any single quarterback

1228
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 1: in the league. And I know that we don't like

1229
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's pass rush, it's not our favorite in the league,

1230
01:04:55,640 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 1: but they cranked it up against Cleveland last week. Maybe

1231
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 1: they're starting to come into their own eight sacks, and

1232
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: they were disruptive and James Harrison, who I'm convinced it's

1233
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 1: not a human human being, is still playing well. They

1234
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: knocked Kessler out of the game and hit Josh McCown

1235
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: harder than they hit Cody Kessler. They body rocked several

1236
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:17,439
Speaker 1: quarterbacks for the Browns and several other players. This whole

1237
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 1: defense was what's a chance for them to get some

1238
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: momentum because you would think they would have a positive

1239
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: game on the turf. It's a shame for everyone at

1240
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: you know, Indianapolis never had a Thanksgiving night game before,

1241
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: probably won't again for another ten fifteen years. That's what

1242
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 1: this was gonna be a cool thing, and that Colts

1243
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 1: were showing signs. I mean, we we bang on the

1244
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 1: whole rest of the team here, but they beat the

1245
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 1: Packers fairly convincingly. They beat the Titans, who we love twice.

1246
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,959
Speaker 1: Their defense made some plays shut down to Marco Murray

1247
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: last week. I mean that Clayton Gathers play to essentially

1248
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: win the game was it was his second game winning

1249
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: play of the year. They're playing better. Eric Walden he's

1250
01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: been a punching bag as a signing and he's had

1251
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: pretty good year for them. It's got like eight sacks.

1252
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 1: Quarterback holds the ball long enough, Walden will eventually he's

1253
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: been okay. Robert Mathis, who has been a disaster really

1254
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: for them until the last couple of weeks, is showing

1255
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: some signs this is a Curtis Painter level crisis for

1256
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 1: the culture. Here's a little stat from the research packet,

1257
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 1: Dan like that teams that are six and five make

1258
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 1: the playoffs forty six percent of the time. Teams that

1259
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 1: are five and six make the playoffs. The big game

1260
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 1: in there. You go, great work, everybody, you know. I

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Speaker 1: was just trying to do some research trying to figure

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Speaker 1: out who was playing halftime at Ford Field some past

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Speaker 1: This is the five year anniversary of Nickelback playing. How

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Speaker 1: many people beyond you are marking the anniversary of that.

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Speaker 1: I think it was green lighted that disaster. It was.

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Speaker 1: There was an actual protest, and I remember we were

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Speaker 1: and allowed to write about it because it became such

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Speaker 1: a touchy issue around around the Detroit lines. I can't

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Speaker 1: find anything to tell me who will be playing this year,

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Speaker 1: but I found an article an MTV article from two

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Speaker 1: thousand and one. Um, uh with the headline, here's the lead.

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Speaker 1: There's one more thing Creed fans can be thankful for

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Speaker 1: this Thanksgiving. Not only will Creed's new album Weather drop

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Speaker 1: two days prior to Turkey Day, Scott Staff, Mark Tremonti,

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Speaker 1: and Scott Phils will be part of the halftime festivities

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Speaker 1: of the annual Dallas Cowboys Thanksgiving game. Greg, who owns? What? Whoop? Hannah?

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Speaker 1: In the society? You got Creed bombed? I was wondering,

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Speaker 1: you know, during our conversation of that last game, while

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Speaker 1: you were tuned out more than usual. Now I don't

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Speaker 1: care about about you're reading about Creed. Yeah, well that

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Speaker 1: was two thousand one. I don't know who's playing time

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Speaker 1: better spent than Scott Tolzine discussions. Um, all right, we

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Speaker 1: will be back tomorrow Wednesday with uh a different week

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Speaker 1: of course, Thanksgiving here in the States. Will be previewing

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Speaker 1: the rest of the week twelve games. So make sure

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Speaker 1: you come back and listen to us again or you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, keep it, save it, have it downloaded, and

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Speaker 1: then after Thanksgiving when you're you know, relaxing, hopefully you're

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Speaker 1: off on Friday, you know, Fire up the Old Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL podcast preview special for Week twelve. I don't

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Speaker 1: do whatever you want. Care save our Sydney, save our

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Speaker 1: Sydney or don't. I don't care. I care, I want you.

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Speaker 1: I would prefer that you do, but we prefer you do.

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Speaker 1: This is Dan Hanson signing off for The Quiet Storm,

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Speaker 1: The Mailman, the Boss in Las sid behind the Glass

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Speaker 1: till Wednesday. Yeah, generally lean straight up banging on my

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Speaker 1: posture in a big spot. Guy just had a baby.

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Speaker 1: I mean he wasn't he didn't have a baby. I'm

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Speaker 1: saying he's sort of the