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Speaker 1: Unplugged Now. On Tuesday, Mike Huckabee had tweeted that he

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Speaker 1: believed in comparison could be made between President Trump and

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Speaker 1: In fact, he tweeted this, Churchill was hated by his

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Speaker 1: own party, opposition party, and the press. Sound familiar anybody

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Speaker 1: But unlike Neville Chamberlain, he didn't retreat. We had a

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Speaker 1: Isn't that kind of what we're doing here, and Trump

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Speaker 1: So know what, I agree with Huckabee. The President reminds

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Speaker 1: A great to see you again, Rose. I love when

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Speaker 1: that's if he wants to run, by all means go

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Speaker 1: for it, still be in the next Fondale. So I'm happy.

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Speaker 1: I can't I'm a late I think the one thing

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Speaker 1: I'd love to see if the President doing even more

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Speaker 1: is re emphasized the judiciary and the judges and the courts.

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Speaker 1: He has put up great judges, great district courts. You know,

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Speaker 1: twelve a record for any president in any time in

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Speaker 1: modern history, which is fantastic. So good for the Senate.

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Speaker 1: Keep pushing that forward because that will be the ultimate legacy.

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Speaker 1: And if anybody doesn't believe that's true, think about that.

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Speaker 1: You know, all the district course, the ampelic courts, get

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Speaker 1: all the cases the force go to. So he is

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Speaker 1: changing the course. He is transformational. I'm very happy, and

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Speaker 1: you do a great job. Roseen Handy, so awesome. Appreciate you,

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Speaker 1: big thanks, good good to hear from you. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for your call. You know, I can't help

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Speaker 1: but think every time I see Flake, it's like he's

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Speaker 1: so proud of himself that he's on television again, And

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Speaker 1: aren't I so cute? And I don't know the guy

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Speaker 1: bothers me. He really does. And I resent the fact

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Speaker 1: that we had a GOP nominee and he didn't support him.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Everyone that did not come out

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Speaker 1: after we had a nominee and support that nominee is

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Speaker 1: just I mean, they're you know where they are as

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Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned. Lou calling from Harrisburg, Virginia. Hello, Lou,

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Speaker 1: How are you, hi, Rose, How are you doing good?

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Speaker 1: How are you having heard from you in such a

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Speaker 1: long time. This is a relative of mine on the boat.

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Speaker 1: So I've the family everywhere. Okay, we're Italian, they're everywhere.

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Speaker 1: We're everywhere. Nice to hear from you. So, I mean,

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Speaker 1: are you concerned it all about the two thousand eighteen midterms? No,

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Speaker 1: Virginia is kind of a weird state. So we live

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Speaker 1: in the in the away from the swamp. We live

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Speaker 1: in the mountains, so there's no water up here, but um,

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Speaker 1: we've got to kind of live it kind of like

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Speaker 1: uh like Chris and California. It's just got a little

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Speaker 1: with you know what you're dealing with. But we'll tell

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Speaker 1: you this. We're gonna save enough money. Are we have

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Speaker 1: a small business. We import wine, and we're gonna save

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Speaker 1: enough money on the taxes that we're now going to

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Speaker 1: offer uh blue cross and blue shield to our four

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Speaker 1: employees plus our family members. And uh, we're gonna actually

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Speaker 1: save about We're projecting about eight thousand dollars for the

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Speaker 1: year and we're gonna use that money to pay for

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Speaker 1: put that towards the premiums of the of the insurance

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Speaker 1: for our three employees. So we could have a total

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Speaker 1: of six people working, three family members and three three

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Speaker 1: employees and uh, yeah, it's two thousand eighteens looking pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Lu that's a great story, and thanks for sharing that

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Speaker 1: with us. And I'm so glad to hear your voice.

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Speaker 1: I really am, sweetie. God bless you you know, and

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Speaker 1: happy New year to you. But see, now, that's that's

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Speaker 1: a great story, and there are so many stories like it. Um.

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Speaker 1: Someone had tweeted me earlier today and said that their

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Speaker 1: company is giving out a bonus. Um. Some people are

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Speaker 1: expecting reasons next year. Small business and I come from

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Speaker 1: a small business family. My mom had a dress shop,

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Speaker 1: my dad I had a design business. And I understand

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Speaker 1: what it's like. I really do. And I'll tell you something.

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Speaker 1: I have such a heart for the small businessman and woman.

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Speaker 1: I certainly do. But it's a struggle sometimes and when

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Speaker 1: I see that there are things that will help the

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Speaker 1: small businessman and woman to not only make it through

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Speaker 1: the year, but to grow him to prosper. Because really

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Speaker 1: that's why they got into the business, right, Certainly it's

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Speaker 1: something they were passionate about, but the fact that they

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Speaker 1: could grow that business and as Luke said, he's able

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Speaker 1: to offer his employees benefits. Now, I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, people are going to I want to

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Speaker 1: know what the Democrats are going to do. What the

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Speaker 1: hell are they going to say and do? Come, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, a couple of months from now into the future,

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Speaker 1: what are they going to say? How are they going

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Speaker 1: to spend this? Because people, you can't deny what people

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Speaker 1: are experiencing, You just really can't. We're gonna take a break.

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Speaker 1: My name is Rose Tenant, sitting in for the awesome

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Speaker 1: Sean Handity. Call me one sewn or check me out

501
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Speaker 1: on social media. Rose unplugged on Facebook and Periscope and Twitter.

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Speaker 1: It's at Rose Underscore Unplugged. We'll be right back. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the Sean Handity Show. My name is Rose,

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Speaker 1: sitting in for him today. Love his audience, Love Linda,

505
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: and I absolutely adore Jason. He's awesome. I was saying,

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Speaker 1: Jason is like having five engineers all in one. He's

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Speaker 1: so amazing. Anyway, call me one shown. Also, we have

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Speaker 1: great guests coming up today. We've got Lieutenant Colonel Buzz Patterson.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about North Korea. We've got d C.

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Speaker 1: McAllister and Danielle McLachlin. We're gonna talk about sexual harassment.

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Speaker 1: Is there too broad? Brought a definition for it. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk and my friend Greg Jarrett. I love him, I

513
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Speaker 1: really do. He's gonna join us to talk about the

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Speaker 1: Mawler investigation. I'll tell you something. When I don't believe

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Speaker 1: any polls, I don't believe any predictions, I certainly I

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Speaker 1: am not gonna listen to Billy Crystal. There's no one

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Speaker 1: out there that can tell me what I believe in

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Speaker 1: my heart. And I'll tell you something too. And this

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Speaker 1: is always astounding to me since since the campaign for presidency,

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Speaker 1: when Donald Trump announcy was going to run, I began

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Speaker 1: to get Democrats listening to my show. It was weird.

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Speaker 1: I never in twenty years, I've never had the number

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Speaker 1: of Democrats listening to my program. And then I would

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Speaker 1: As recent as a month ago, I was in a

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Speaker 1: really cool area in downtown Pittsburgh, and I will have

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Speaker 1: people come up to me and and say, Rose, I

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Speaker 1: listened to your show. I'm a Democrat, at lifelong democrat.

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Speaker 1: I'm not the only one. We like your show. We

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Speaker 1: like this president. I mean, this is a phenomenon to me.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is really there's something that the left

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Speaker 1: doesn't understand, that the media doesn't understand, and and because

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Speaker 1: they don't understand it, they could never effectively predict anything,

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Speaker 1: quite frankly in my estimation, So who cares what they say?

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Speaker 1: I don't. Let's allow Trump to be Trump that that's

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Speaker 1: something big on my page. If he wants to tweet,

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Speaker 1: let him tweet. He tweeted one hundred and sixty times

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Speaker 1: the phrase fake news this past year. But he's right,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about some examples of fake news

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Speaker 1: coming up. Stay with us. Don't quote too far away.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Seawan Handedy Show. My name is Rose.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Shawan Handity Show. My name is Rose,

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Speaker 1: sitting in for him today and it's a pleasure to

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Speaker 1: be here and an honor. I love hearing from you

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Speaker 1: right now that we're gonna have a guest on, I

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Speaker 1: want to remind you that I also like hearing from

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Speaker 1: you on social media. My Facebook is Rose unplugged, my

547
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: Twitter's at Rose Underscore unplugged, and Periscope is Rose unplugged.

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Speaker 1: Joining us right now is the guy who carried the

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Speaker 1: nuclear football under President Clinton, and he's the author of

550
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Speaker 1: Dereliction of Duty and I witness account of how Bill

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Speaker 1: Clinton compromised America's national security. Please welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: Lieutenant Colonel Buzz Patterson. Welcome to the show. Hey, Hi, Roads,

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Speaker 1: How are you good? How are you fantastic? Couldn't be better?

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Speaker 1: I am so glad that you're on today because you

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Speaker 1: know we're hearing a lot. In fact, one of the

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Speaker 1: recent headlines was that North Korea was likely to pursue

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Speaker 1: talks with US. Now that's according to South Korea. They're

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Speaker 1: looking at a rosy new year. What do you say

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Speaker 1: to that buzz, do you believe that's possible. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I trust that. I was. I was kind

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Speaker 1: of a heart and rose when I heard that Russia

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Speaker 1: has also come out, so they don't not allow with

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Speaker 1: the clear powered clear, weapanized North Korea. So that's that's

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Speaker 1: a check mark in the right block. But I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: until I think you get Russia and China involved, it

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Speaker 1: will as much hope for any kind of domestic or

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Speaker 1: any kind of diplomacy with those people. I just don't

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Speaker 1: think that there's the rational actors in that regard. No,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I mean, I'm kind of surprised though,

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Speaker 1: that the South believes that. I mean, if if anyone

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Speaker 1: understands North Korea, I would I would assume it's the South,

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Speaker 1: although I have to say I'm not sure about their

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Speaker 1: new leadership, and I'm not quite sure he fully graphs

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Speaker 1: what's going on in North Korea. Would you agree with

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Speaker 1: that like that? Yeah, I think it may be more

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Speaker 1: wishful thinking and wishful hoping than anything else. And then

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Speaker 1: they really obviously don't They don't want us to attack,

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Speaker 1: and they don't want to see in North Korea to

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Speaker 1: come across the d MZ either. So I think they're

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Speaker 1: probably hoping that's the case. But in my time, you know,

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Speaker 1: twenty years in the Air force and writing books, I

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Speaker 1: just don't see that being the bliable option at this point,

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Speaker 1: not unless we get Shina and rushed. Will we put

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Speaker 1: the clamps on them and UH go after their their banks,

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Speaker 1: their exports, their imports, that kind of thing, we know,

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Speaker 1: and it looks like we are putting clams on And

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Speaker 1: of course, on Friday and we there was a United

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Speaker 1: that was in response to North Korea's November twenty nine

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Speaker 1: test of the I C B M and UH. And

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Speaker 1: then since then, Minuchin has released a statement that said

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Speaker 1: Treasury is targeting leaders of North Korea's ballistic missile programs

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Speaker 1: as part of our maximum pressure campaign to isolate North

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Speaker 1: Korea and achieve a fully denuclearized Korean peninsula. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean we are taking steps. Russia and China both

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Speaker 1: said they supported the sanctions that limit North Korea's access

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Speaker 1: to refine petroleum products and crude oil. But at the

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Speaker 1: same time, did I just read that there were spy

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Speaker 1: satellites that saw Chinese ships illegally selling wal. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what's going on. A couple

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Speaker 1: of a couple of months ago, the Chinese said they

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Speaker 1: would they would stop all all oil imports into UH

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Speaker 1: in the North Korea. We've caught them cheating about thirty

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Speaker 1: times so far in the last couple of months alone,

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Speaker 1: So they're not sticking up the rid of the bargain.

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Speaker 1: And here's my real my real fear, Rose, is that

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Speaker 1: you know, we've been playing this dopomatic game, but North Christmas,

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Speaker 1: my former bosses in office haven't been carried the nuclear football.

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Speaker 1: I'm well aware of what this technology is all about,

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Speaker 1: and I think we're really pushing it now to the

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Speaker 1: eleventh power. I don't see we have much more time

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Speaker 1: to allow him to continue to develop this program. And

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Speaker 1: I just to discovered a couple of days ago, but

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Speaker 1: the latest defector came across the border from North Korea

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Speaker 1: only with signs of nuclear radiation, but also with signs

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Speaker 1: of antrax. So that's a lot easier to build into

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Speaker 1: into deploy than nuclear weapons are. So I think we're

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Speaker 1: getting to the point of no return, and we're to

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Speaker 1: the point where there are no good options available to

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Speaker 1: us now? Is that? I mean? I want to hear

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Speaker 1: about these options, but at the same time, what options

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Speaker 1: are actually left on the table for us? But when

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Speaker 1: I read I had read that there was a defected

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Speaker 1: soldier that they found to be vaccinated against anthrax. That's correct, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he had yet antibodies from antext actorations. That means of

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Speaker 1: what they're doing is there. And he's a low, low,

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Speaker 1: their ranking line guy on the d m Z. If

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Speaker 1: he's getting they're getting vaccinations. And I think probably the

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Speaker 1: entire country has gotten them for a reason because they

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Speaker 1: plan on deploying chemical and biological weapons. Okay, so what

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Speaker 1: options do you see that we have left? And and

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Speaker 1: I believe this administration is up for the task, don't you.

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Speaker 1: I do believe that up to the task. I really

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Speaker 1: like Trump's hetoric over the last few months about this. Again.

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Speaker 1: You know, we've picked the can down the road for

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Speaker 1: twenty three years, and we've allowed him to get to

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Speaker 1: this point where he is on the verge of being

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Speaker 1: able to launch to hit American shores with with nuclear weapons.

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Speaker 1: And I think our our options these days are getting

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Speaker 1: to the point where there are no good ones ros,

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Speaker 1: it's only bad or less bad. I think we need

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Speaker 1: to go after the banks, the banking system first, cut

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Speaker 1: off all supplies and all all revenues going into that country.

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Speaker 1: And then m I'm hoping that we see very soon

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Speaker 1: maybe his next test launch, that we actually knock it

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Speaker 1: out of the sky, just embarrass him UM, and then

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Speaker 1: maybe he'll be going forward. Yeah. I think it would

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Speaker 1: be great too that that would be the least militarized

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Speaker 1: UH response we have on the table. We could do it,

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Speaker 1: and we could do it fairly easily. UH. And after

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Speaker 1: the out it gets to you know, more more advanced

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Speaker 1: to the on the more fun in spector where you

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Speaker 1: start talking about UM actually going in and printing strikes,

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Speaker 1: going after their facilities, their their missile launching locations, you know,

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Speaker 1: their grid, their power structure, which is very minimal as

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Speaker 1: it is right anyway, it's only basically Pyongyang has power,

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Speaker 1: so UM. And then then it goes an you're talking

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Speaker 1: about guys coming across the border in full blown combat,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's obviously we want to avoid that.

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Speaker 1: So we also want to avoid on on a bigger scale,

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Speaker 1: we want to avoid him ever getting into clear weapon

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Speaker 1: he could deploy. Oh my god, when you think about

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Speaker 1: Kim Jong un, and I don't like to think about him,

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Speaker 1: but we're forced to right now. Is there any other

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Speaker 1: leader in history that we can point to and say

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Speaker 1: is as crazy as this man? I know we've had

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Speaker 1: some evil there have been evil people out there, and

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Speaker 1: they've done horrible things, but I don't know that any

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Speaker 1: of them top this guy. I I just he he

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Speaker 1: is in the class all of his on his own.

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Speaker 1: I think at times, you know, I do agree with that,

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Speaker 1: and I think he's really You know, we knew what

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Speaker 1: we had basically in Saddam Hussey, and we didn't when

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Speaker 1: we had in Walmart Kadasi. We knew what we had,

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Speaker 1: you know, was uh with some of the did painters

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Speaker 1: of the past, you know, you back in the Soviet

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Speaker 1: Union days, Stalin and Lennon, So we knew those people

678
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Speaker 1: were fairly rational actors. The kids, this kid's a total

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Speaker 1: wild card. We don't know that much about him. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: is not any press coming out of that country. He's young,

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Speaker 1: we don't know. Um, if there are people around him,

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Speaker 1: We're going to support him or not. I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of there's a lot of things we don't know,

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Speaker 1: and we have very you know, difficult time trying to

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Speaker 1: acquire that kind of intelligence. So I think the best

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Speaker 1: bet for us is to go into all this saying

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Speaker 1: the guy is illogical, rational, he'll do something stupid and

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Speaker 1: then hope for the better. You're you're right, because with

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Speaker 1: some leaders, you the suggestion that a show of force

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Speaker 1: from the United States is enough to put them in

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Speaker 1: their place. This guy seems to be more provoked by that,

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Speaker 1: but he's provoked by everything. Quite frankly, he is. He

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Speaker 1: is again you know, uh during the Cold are back

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Speaker 1: in to in the Soviet Union years where we had

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Speaker 1: the mutually assured disruption philosophy. You know, they had weapons,

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Speaker 1: We had weapons. We knew that if they used it,

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Speaker 1: we'd we'd be using emanated the exact same thing. We

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Speaker 1: don't know that about this guy. We don't know what

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Speaker 1: he'll do. Even if the slightest publications say we do,

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Speaker 1: shouldn't miss a lot of this guy. He made that

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Speaker 1: they may be the point where he dips and and goes,

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Speaker 1: you know, comes across the d MZ. So we this

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Speaker 1: is really a very dicey game that we're playing. I'm

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Speaker 1: so thankful we had President Trump. He had to seek

705
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Speaker 1: handling this because I think if we had Obama or Hillary,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, he's taking the kid down the road

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Speaker 1: even further. Well, I shuddered to think. Honestly, Buzz, when

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Speaker 1: I think that it could have been Hillary Clinton, I

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Speaker 1: I just would not trust the situation to her. And

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Speaker 1: and quite frankly, you know, at times I'm so very

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Speaker 1: angry with the previous administration. But the situation we currently

712
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Speaker 1: find ourselves in with North Korea goes beyond the Obama administration.

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Speaker 1: It goes even further back. I mean, they're there are

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Speaker 1: all many of them have been complicit over the years. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and we can point to many things that they've done

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Speaker 1: or have not done, and say this is why we're

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Speaker 1: here where we are today with North Korea. In exactly,

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Speaker 1: it started in nine right before I got to the

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Speaker 1: White House, Rose when the President Clinton agreed to the

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Speaker 1: Framed Agreement where we gave them a whole bunch of

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Speaker 1: money and a couple of the nuclear reactors, and then, uh,

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Speaker 1: they kind of they kept quiet for a while, and

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Speaker 1: then George W. Bush came into office and didn't really

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Speaker 1: pay very much attention to them, and during that time.

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Speaker 1: So you go back and look at their missile, their

726
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: missile tests and their their detonation, and it starts to

727
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: ramp up right towards the end of Bush Jr. And

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Speaker 1: it really ramped up under Obama. So about the time

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Speaker 1: of Obama left office, we were we were where we

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Speaker 1: are today and it's still still trending up. So if

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Speaker 1: you go back and look at the charge, the graphs

732
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Speaker 1: um it got out of control, basically started getting out

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Speaker 1: of control under the Bush and then it really took

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Speaker 1: off under Obama. So it's the time now we put

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Speaker 1: a cap on it. So, Buzz, you've authored the book

736
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Speaker 1: Dereliction of Duty, and and you call it an eye

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Speaker 1: witnessed account of how Bill Clinton compromised American national security.

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Speaker 1: How difficult it was it for you? Then? Obviously you

739
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Speaker 1: you recognized what was going on, You knew what was

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Speaker 1: going on. You must have been I mean, how what

741
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: was that like to be there then when you're seeing

742
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Speaker 1: how our how we're being compromised here where national security

743
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: is concerned, Well, for a military guy from military officer

744
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: was very difficult, as you can imagine that watching this

745
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: day by day drip drip drip of of Clinton not

746
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: having his eye on the ball in terms of national security,

747
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: you know, a lot to many same years. You know,

748
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Speaker 1: he was allowing Osama bin Laden two trips around the

749
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Speaker 1: world bowling up embass season and didn't anything about that either.

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Speaker 1: So uh, the military guy, you know, we understand command

751
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: versity leadership, and we want to take the fight on

752
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: uh head head on, like you know, But in terms

753
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: of being there in the White House day after day

754
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: after day and was watching this him continually refused to

755
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 1: take action, to to call the enemy what it sent

756
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 1: to and to respond accordingly was frustrating and and uh

757
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Speaker 1: and disheartening, which is one of the reasons why I

758
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: wrote the book. I just seemed to get the story

759
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 1: out here that we've got a commander in chief who's

760
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Speaker 1: failed to be a commander. You know, you're absolutely right,

761
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Speaker 1: you know, and we've had just a little too much

762
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: of that buzz we really have. You know, there was

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Speaker 1: a photograph He's something you had said just a few

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Speaker 1: moments ago about some of the people that surround Kim

765
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Speaker 1: Jong Oon, and and there was a photograph that was

766
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Speaker 1: printed that I showed a picture of his sister, and

767
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: they were suggesting that she was at the heart of

768
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Speaker 1: the North Korea inner circle, and and that that's interesting

769
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Speaker 1: and not on on the surface, but when you consider

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Speaker 1: what you had just said about the people that he

771
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Speaker 1: surrounds himself with, those that are that he's influencing or

772
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Speaker 1: that are influencing him. And you've got family members who

773
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Speaker 1: certainly when they've seen what's happened to other family members,

774
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: um if they went against this ruler, certainly there there

775
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: is yes men are in this case, yes women, There's

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Speaker 1: no doubt about it. You know, his his family's dyna.

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00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: He goes way back. You know that this grandfather and

778
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: father were brutal dictators as well. So I'm sure he

779
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: has people surrounding him that were very loyal to his father,

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00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: um in their and their families as well. Uh. He's

781
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: probably getting some great advice from them from their perspective

782
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: about what to do and what not to do because

783
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Speaker 1: they were trained under his dad. So we don't know

784
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Speaker 1: the quality of people around him. I will tell you

785
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: that if you do a little looking into some of

786
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: those uh uh footage video files we've been showing on

787
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: the news the last couple of years, if you look

788
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: into the audience the grandstand when when they're doing these

789
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 1: test launchers, there's always an Iranian officer in the crowd,

790
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Speaker 1: so you know that they're working very closely with Iran

791
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: And if we allowed with created to be armed, it's

792
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: just a matter of time, a few months, I would say,

793
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: until the Iranians have the exact same capabilities we have.

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Speaker 1: About a minute or two in this segment, could you

795
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Speaker 1: give me a few of your predictions. What do you

796
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: think and how soon do you think this administration is

797
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: going to take some action? And I think we're gonna

798
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Speaker 1: let the allies, hopefully allies in China and Russia UH

799
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: come forward and need a little more aggressive in this,

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Speaker 1: and if they don't, we'll have to do something militarily

801
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 1: or in terms of us UM trying to take out

802
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: their their power grid and some capacity, you're trying to

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Speaker 1: take out some of their sites launch sites. Um. I

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00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: think it's gonna have to start with that. The if

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00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: the if the United Nations and the World orders just

806
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: get on board with this, they start helping me out here,

807
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: we'll help to be, you know, in charge of doing

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00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: it by ourselves. And I know how nervous South Korea

809
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: and Japan are that they're right there within striking distance. Also,

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Speaker 1: they don't have the ability really to fight back, right,

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Speaker 1: and and and and how confident are you in in

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Speaker 1: Trump's inner circle those who are advising him, very very

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Speaker 1: so glad we have did Amadis as Secretary of State,

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Speaker 1: peramc Master. I think talking a great jobs arounding himself

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Speaker 1: with some fully key senior personnel, senior leadership around him.

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Speaker 1: I have no doubt that he's getting great advice militarily

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00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: from those guys. Um. So that's that's healthy, little more

818
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: soundly at night, but he has those guys around him. Oh,

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Speaker 1: that's good to know. And it's good to hear that

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Speaker 1: from you. In particular. I want to thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Lieutenant Colonel Buzz Patterson. He carried that

822
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Speaker 1: nuclear football under President Clinton and he's the author of

823
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Speaker 1: Dereliction of Duty and eye witness account of how Bill

824
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: Clinton compromised America's national security. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: joining us this afternoon. I really appreciate it. Thank you

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Speaker 1: Rose anytime, and God bless me. Happy to ye o

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Speaker 1: the same to you, the same to you. All right,

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Speaker 1: the Sean Hannity Show and I'm Rose sitting in for

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Speaker 1: you so much, guys. Eight nine for one, Shawn is

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Speaker 1: the phone number. We've got great guests coming up. Greg

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Speaker 1: Jared is joining us after the half hour. I'll take

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Speaker 1: a quick call Dawn from Greensville, South Carolina. How are you, Dawn?

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Speaker 1: I'm great, Rose, How are you doing fabulous? Did you

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Speaker 1: have a great holiday? I had a great holiday. I

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Speaker 1: say that Rose is terrific and if she was on

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Speaker 1: every day, I'd listened to her every day. Oh well,

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Speaker 1: you're so sweet. Well follow me on social media and

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Speaker 1: you'll find out how you can listen to them. I'm

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Speaker 1: selling what I'm going to be and I don't use

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Speaker 1: I don't have to use that computer. Oh well, first

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Speaker 1: of all, thank you for your service, Dawn. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much, and and God bless you and have a

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Speaker 1: happy New Year. Honestly, you've been very place. I'm more

854
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Speaker 1: about North Korea and about Donald Trump compared to Winston Churchill.

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Speaker 1: And it was just in and out of the truck

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Speaker 1: to some shopping. Thank you. Rose. All right, sweetie, thank

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Speaker 1: you for your phone call. I appreciate that. All right,

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Speaker 1: lots to talk about coming up. First of all, we'll

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Speaker 1: have Greg Jared on I. I really want to get

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Speaker 1: a feel from him where we're going with the smaller

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Speaker 1: investigation and should there be other investigations. We'll talk about

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Speaker 1: that and lots more. Check me out on social media

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Speaker 1: Rose Unplugged on Facebook, Twitter, It's at Rose Underscore Unplugged.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back with more of the Shawn Hannity Show.

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Speaker 1: Well right after this. Finally, some disco music. Listen. In

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Speaker 1: the day, the disco day, I was known as a

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Speaker 1: disco queen. I just want you to know that, okay,

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Speaker 1: or princess was the princess. This is the Shawn Hannity Show.

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Speaker 1: My name is Rose, sitting in for Shawn Hannity today.

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Speaker 1: Joining me is the legal analyst and contributor for Fox

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Speaker 1: News Channel and Fox Business Network. He's also a former

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Speaker 1: defense Eternity the guy I really like, but Linda says

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Speaker 1: she just loves him and wishes he were a relative. Well,

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Speaker 1: I wish he was a relative to Welcome to the show, Greg, Jared, Hey, Greg,

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Speaker 1: how are you? He? Rose? I had no idea you're

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Speaker 1: a disco queen. Oh yeah, I never told you. Oh

877
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Speaker 1: I certainly was. I'll have you know. How about you? Greg?

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Speaker 1: Did you? I'm not. My disco days are so far

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Speaker 1: behind me. I can't even remember. Greg. It's so good

880
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 1: to have you on this show. I found out Linda

881
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 1: is just as crazy about you as I am. So

882
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: how about that. That's very very nice. You guys are kind.

883
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Speaker 1: We really do like you, Gregg, thanks for being with us.

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Speaker 1: We are a lot to talk about. I have to

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Speaker 1: tell you. I talked to um Louie Gohmer, Congressman Louis

886
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: Gohmer this morning and he was just he's living. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this guy. He wants an investigation into Waller and he

888
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: once won into Loretta Lynch and to Rosenstein, what do

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Speaker 1: you think? I mean, we know that Jeff Sessions has

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Speaker 1: directed the federal prosecutors to evaluate certain issues requested by

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Speaker 1: congressional Republicans. So I what do you think is going

892
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: to happen? Let's get some predictions for the new year. Well,

893
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Speaker 1: I agree entirely with Louie Gomert and others who have

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Speaker 1: called for a second special counsel, which I did actually

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Speaker 1: in columns I wrote months ago, Yes you did, Yes,

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Speaker 1: you did it is it's clear to me that Mueller

897
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Speaker 1: should have refused himself on two basis under the statute.

898
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Speaker 1: He didn't do it. Rosenstein has a horrible conflict of

899
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Speaker 1: interest overseeing Mueller and the investigation. He refuses to recuse himself.

900
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Speaker 1: And Rosette tells you something about these people and their motivation.

901
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Speaker 1: And then you add on top of that, you know

902
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Speaker 1: that the team of partisans that Mueller selected, uh, you

903
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: know they're very much like Andrew Weissman and Peter Struck

904
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Speaker 1: and Lisa Page, all of whom as anti Trump sentiment

905
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Speaker 1: that they've expressed. I mean this, how would you how

906
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Speaker 1: would you like to be investigated by a prosecutor or

907
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Speaker 1: an FBI agent who has written things that he hates you.

908
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Speaker 1: I mean, how fair is it, you know, how fair

909
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Speaker 1: is it to you to be instigated by somebody like that?

910
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Speaker 1: You know, law enforcement is expected, especially prosecutors, federal prosecutors,

911
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Speaker 1: to be fair and impartial and neutral, and these people

912
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: are anything but. And I think there is growing circumstantial, strong,

913
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Speaker 1: circumstantial evidence that they fixed it so that Hillary Clinton

914
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Speaker 1: would be absolved, and their backup plan was to frame

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump fictitious, spurious, you know, investigation into collusion. Now,

916
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Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. And when you mentioned Mueller and Rosenstein

917
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Speaker 1: and perhaps they should have accused themselves, it does go

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Speaker 1: to character. I mean, you you asked the same question

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Speaker 1: I was about to ask you. What kind of person?

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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, when you're an investigation like this one

921
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Speaker 1: that's so important, what kind of person doesn't recuse themselves?

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Speaker 1: I mean, we had our Attorney General, Jeff Sessions, who

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Speaker 1: accused himself and didn't really even have to. You're absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, think about this. Mueller is sitting in the

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Speaker 1: Oval office interviewing uh with the President United States to

926
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Speaker 1: replace James Comey, who had been fired the next day.

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Speaker 1: Mueller takes the job as special counsel investigating the president.

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Speaker 1: Mueller uttered not a word to Donald Trump. I mean,

929
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Speaker 1: that's deceitful and dishonest. Was Mueller trying to gather evidence

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Speaker 1: in that interview against Trump? Uh? You know, on that

931
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Speaker 1: basis alone, he should never have taken the job. And

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Speaker 1: you factor in his longtime close personal relationship and professional

933
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Speaker 1: relationship with James Comey, and it's it's all ugly and unconscionable.

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Speaker 1: And how can Americans have any trust and confidence in

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Speaker 1: the outcome when these people are so conflicted? You know?

936
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Speaker 1: And I'll say something. So we're talking about we go

937
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Speaker 1: back to July, and for three months there were requests

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Speaker 1: from the House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob good Latte, and

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Speaker 1: then there were other committee members as well who had

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Speaker 1: been calling for an appointment. So this has been going.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't just something that, oh god, we're

942
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Speaker 1: talking about right now. There were some great concerns going

943
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Speaker 1: all the way back to the end of the summer,

944
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Speaker 1: and they wanted a special counsel to investigate the matters

945
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Speaker 1: that they find questionable. It's about time, It's about They

946
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Speaker 1: sent a long letter to Jeff Sessions remember that demand.

947
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Speaker 1: This is the Judiciary Committee, Good leads the you know,

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Speaker 1: the chairman, and it was signed by every uh majority

949
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Speaker 1: member of that committee. And they posed a variety of questions,

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Speaker 1: ten or fifteen of them saying, you know, these questions

951
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Speaker 1: need to be answered. And they all raised the possibility

952
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Speaker 1: of obstruction of justice by the FBI and maybe the

953
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Speaker 1: Department of Justice into the Hillary Clinton email case. And uh,

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Speaker 1: it's fishy. It doesn't smell right. Look, it never made

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Speaker 1: any sense how she beat the rap um. You know,

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Speaker 1: I ask any lawyer, you got a hundred and ten

957
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: classified emails sider received, is classified on your unauthorized server

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Speaker 1: in the basement of your home. I mean, that's a

959
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Speaker 1: per se violation of the Espionage Act and and another

960
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 1: relevant statute as well. And you know, people get prosecuted

961
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Speaker 1: and you know, convicted. That David Petraus is is similar.

962
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Speaker 1: He took home documents that were classified, kept him in

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Speaker 1: the drawer of his office at home, gave some to

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Speaker 1: his mistress. That's the same thing that Hillary Clinton did.

965
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Speaker 1: She authorized that all of her emails, including classified documents,

966
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Speaker 1: would be sent to her home. Can't do it, now,

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Speaker 1: you know what, You're absolutely right you know, one of

968
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Speaker 1: the things that when we talked about McCabe he's going

969
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Speaker 1: to be retiring he I think it was actually it

970
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Speaker 1: was Compressman Gomert that said that he was grilled by

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Speaker 1: the House Judiciary Committee for over seven hours. Was a

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Speaker 1: little over a week ago. Um, and he listen. He

973
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Speaker 1: really they didn't like how he was answering the questions.

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Speaker 1: And Gilbert said, I really can't go into detail because

975
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Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to. It's not supposed to be made public.

976
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Speaker 1: But he was very uncomfortable with that situation. And uh,

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Speaker 1: and it's been said that McCabe remembers some things very

978
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Speaker 1: differently from some of the other people that had made

979
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Speaker 1: public statements. So so McCabe's on his way out. Um. Mahler,

980
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Speaker 1: there's still talk about you know, the White House has

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Speaker 1: to consistently come out and say we've never said that

982
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Speaker 1: we're going to fire Mauler. And while that may be true,

983
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Speaker 1: there has to be something has to be done about

984
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: these other concerns that that we've had for a very

985
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Speaker 1: long time now and that you've been calling for. You've

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Speaker 1: been calling for a special counsel, as you've said for

987
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Speaker 1: a very long time as well. Yeah, exactly. A second

988
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Speaker 1: special counsel needs to examine Cabe Baker, both of which

989
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 1: of other you know been sidelined or demoted Bruce or

990
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Speaker 1: James Comey, who I think violated the law on several occasions,

991
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Speaker 1: and and reopen the Hillary Clinton email investigation. Renew the

992
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: investigation with clean and clear eyes and objective eyes, and

993
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: decide whether or not there should be referred to a

994
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Speaker 1: grand jury, because you know, there is so much evidence

995
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: that people, for political motivations helped her in order to

996
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Speaker 1: clear a path for her to become president. And nobody's

997
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: above the law. You know, we don't have kings and

998
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: tyrants in America. Um, and so it doesn't matter whether

999
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: you know you're a nominee for president United States, you

1000
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: still can't get away with breaking the law in America. Great,

1001
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: there are so many at least you know, the ones

1002
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Speaker 1: that are paying attention to all of this. I know

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Speaker 1: my listeners, no doubt, Shaun's. I mean, they are very frustrated.

1004
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: They need to see something be done. There's something must

1005
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 1: be done really too, because we just we feel that

1006
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: justice isn't being served right now. We feel that when

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Speaker 1: you look at the evidence and the craziness around the dossier,

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Speaker 1: even poor Trump when he weighed in, what was it

1009
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Speaker 1: earlier in the week or last week? I've lost track

1010
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: wherever the holiday season here, but he said, the FBI cannot,

1011
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 1: after all this time, verify claims in dossier of Russia

1012
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Speaker 1: Trump collusion. FBI tainted. I mean, this guy's frustrated. We

1013
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: are frustrated. We need to know that something is going

1014
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: to be done. We really do. This phony dossier, which

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Speaker 1: was paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign and the

1016
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Speaker 1: Democratic National Committee and put together by a foreign national,

1017
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Speaker 1: constitutes a crime. You know, you can't do that in

1018
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Speaker 1: a political campaign. The law forbids it. The exchange of

1019
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: money for something like that. Um, that is an act

1020
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Speaker 1: of collusion, if ever there was one, uh, and it

1021
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Speaker 1: was used. This dossier is the basis for two things.

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Speaker 1: One to launch the Trump Russia investigation into July of

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Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen, and number two, to spy on

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Speaker 1: Trump associates because armed with his dossier, they presented an

1025
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Speaker 1: affidavit to Affi, a judge asking for a warrant to

1026
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Speaker 1: wire tap Trump associates, including Carter Page and maybe Paul Manaford.

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Speaker 1: That may have been a separate warrant. We just don't

1028
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Speaker 1: know yet, but think about it. So Hillary Clinton supplies

1029
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Speaker 1: the money for the dossier so that the FBI can

1030
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Speaker 1: spy on her opponent in a presidential campaign. Um, using

1031
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 1: a fake document to obtain a warrant as a fraud

1032
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Speaker 1: on the court and a crime. And the people who

1033
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Speaker 1: submitted it, and we don't know yet whose name was

1034
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Speaker 1: on the application for the warrant, but um, they're in trouble.

1035
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Speaker 1: And if I were the federal judge who signed off

1036
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Speaker 1: on that warrant, I'd haul these knuckleheads into my courtroom

1037
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Speaker 1: and say, what were you doing? Did you authenticate and

1038
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Speaker 1: confirm the contents of this dossier that formed the basis

1039
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Speaker 1: for the wire tap? Uh? And bring your toothbrush because

1040
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: you may be held in contempt of court. Well, I

1041
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Speaker 1: wish it were you that could make that decision. Listen,

1042
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Speaker 1: what what is your prediction for two eighteen? What do

1043
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Speaker 1: you think is one of the first things when the

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Speaker 1: first courses of action that may be taken where all

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Speaker 1: of this is concerned as soon as everybody is back

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Speaker 1: to work. Well, I would look for two things. First, Um,

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Speaker 1: the House Intelligence Committee is preparing a report, and I

1048
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Speaker 1: think the contents of that report will be damning towards

1049
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Speaker 1: Comey and Mueller, UH, and people like McCabe, James Baker,

1050
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Speaker 1: certainly Peter Struck. The second thing I think you can

1051
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Speaker 1: look for is the Department of Justice Inspector General Michael

1052
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Speaker 1: horror Wits, who has spent many months investigating the Hillary

1053
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Speaker 1: Clinton UH email decision by Comey and others who changed

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Speaker 1: the wording. Was it Struck in macabe and and Baker

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Speaker 1: who convinced Comy to change the wording to exonerate Hillary Clinton?

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Speaker 1: If so, why and Uh? And of course it was

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Speaker 1: Horrowitz who discovered all of these incriminating text messages exchanged

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Speaker 1: between Peter Struck, the FBI counterterrorism official UH and Lisa Page,

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Speaker 1: the FBI lawyer, both of whom were involved in the

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton email case and clearing her and were involved

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Speaker 1: in the FBI Trump Russia investigation and then jumped to

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Speaker 1: the Mueller probe. Are are Lisa Page and Peter Struck

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Speaker 1: the only FBI agents in the bureau exactly? You know?

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Speaker 1: They were involved in three cases. What you're important and pivotal,

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Speaker 1: you know, Greg. This reminds me of the Clinton years,

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Speaker 1: the Clinton administration there were so much, there was so

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Speaker 1: much to keep up with. It was so difficult to

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Speaker 1: explain every little detail that I felt like they got

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Speaker 1: away with so much because it was so difficult to

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Speaker 1: expose it all. It was just so it was happening

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Speaker 1: so quickly. I've got to give these guys on the committees,

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Speaker 1: people like um Louie Gomert and others. I have to

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Speaker 1: give them a lot of credit because they spend a

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Speaker 1: lot of time. There's a lot to go through, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot to understand, and and and and kudos to

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Speaker 1: them because they're not giving up. The Matt Gates and

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Speaker 1: the others like him, they're fabulous, honestly. Yeah. And I'll

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Speaker 1: be interviewing Congressman Gates tonight on lou Dobbs on the

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Speaker 1: Fox Business Network seven o'clock Eastern. I'll be anchoring for

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Speaker 1: Lose on vacation and Representative Gates is is my guests

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Speaker 1: who'll be digging into a lot of this. They deserve

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Speaker 1: a great deal of credit, as does UH, the staff

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Speaker 1: UH at the Intel Committee on the House side, the

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Speaker 1: Jury Committee, and some of the people on the Senate

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Speaker 1: side as well. They all deserve credit for for not

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Speaker 1: letting this go and papering it over as Democrats and

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Speaker 1: the media want them to. You know what, We'll be

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Speaker 1: looking for you tonight at seven o'clock then on Fox

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Speaker 1: Business Network. You do a great job, Greg, and we

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Speaker 1: really count on you to bring us the latest, and

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Speaker 1: I appreciate all your efforts and I really hope you

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Speaker 1: have a great New Year. I do sincerely you two.

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Speaker 1: Rose the Disco Queen. That's right, babe, it's me the

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Speaker 1: Disco Queen. I love you, Greg, take care. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: joining us today. We appreciate it. We'll be back with

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Speaker 1: more of The Shawn Hannity Show right after this. You're

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Speaker 1: listening to The Shawan Hannity Show. My name is Rose Tennant.

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Speaker 1: I do a show called Rose Unplugged out of Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 1: Underscore Unplugged. Alright, So coming up next after the top

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Speaker 1: of the hour, we've got d C. McAllister and Danielle McLachlin.

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Speaker 1: I like these ladies, and we're gonna have a very

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Speaker 1: candid and open and honest discussion about sexual harassment and

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Speaker 1: about some of the stories that have been made the

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Speaker 1: headlines of late and also I want to tell you

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Speaker 1: always an honor and a pleasure to serve Sean Hannity

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Speaker 1: when he's not here to do his show and to

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Speaker 1: talk with his audience. You guys are awesome. I've really

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Speaker 1: enjoyed talking to you and I hope to talk a

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Speaker 1: lot more in the next hour. So don't go too

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Speaker 1: far away. Stay with us. We've got a great hour planned.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Shawan Handity Show. My name is Rose,

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Speaker 1: sitting in for him today. Check me out on social media.

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Speaker 1: On Twitter, it's at Rose Underscore Unplugged. On Facebook, it's

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Speaker 1: Rose Unplugged, Periscope, Rose Unplugged. You know, Linda had the

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Speaker 1: idea of putting these two ladies together on the show

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Speaker 1: today and I was thrilled. I there's so much to

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Speaker 1: talk about. I hope we can get to as much

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Speaker 1: as possible. Joining me is senior contributor at The Federalist,

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Speaker 1: as well as a contributor at PJ Media d C

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Speaker 1: mc alistair, and also an attorney and constitutional expert who

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Speaker 1: co wrote the book The Federalist Society, How Conservatives took

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Speaker 1: the law back from liberals. And that is Danielle McLaughlin. Ladies,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the show. Thanks for having me. Hi. First

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Speaker 1: of all, your girls are gorgeous, and you're so very smart,

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Speaker 1: and I and I just love you both, I really do.

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Speaker 1: And and I like the idea I'll end up with

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Speaker 1: this together. And I think it's time that we had

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Speaker 1: a very open and honest conversation about some of the

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Speaker 1: things that are going on today. I just read a

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Speaker 1: piece recently in the New York Daily News Christina Hoff

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Speaker 1: Summers wrote regarding the hashtag me too um movement, and

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Speaker 1: she said that it's a panic and and she doesn't

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Speaker 1: think that that's the answer. She said, we're at imminent

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Speaker 1: risk of turning this hashtag me to moment into a

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Speaker 1: frenzied rush to blame all men. And I gotta say, ladies,

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Speaker 1: I kind of agree. I've been feeling that our definition

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Speaker 1: of harassment sexual harassment has been so broad and that

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Speaker 1: we need to really think about how we define it.

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Speaker 1: Would you agree. Let's start with you, d c Oh.

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Speaker 1: I agree completely, And I've been concerned about this movement

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Speaker 1: from kind of the beginning, when it first started broadening

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Speaker 1: and including definitions of harassment that weren't actually legal definitions.

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Speaker 1: And I see this movement it's not an isolation. Of course,

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Speaker 1: it came after the Women's March, after this election, is

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Speaker 1: kind of caught up in the wave of the anger,

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Speaker 1: in the backlash to the Trump election. So it's not

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Speaker 1: an isolation that's been politicized. This part of that, and

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Speaker 1: we can't look at this without seeing in that broader picture.

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Speaker 1: So it's not just if people want to respond and say, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is just about women concerned about sexual harassment, which

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Speaker 1: is a very legitimate concern. I think all three of

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Speaker 1: us will agree that we don't want women harassed. We

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Speaker 1: are against a kind of abusive women, and we need

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Speaker 1: to say that up front. You know, I support women

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Speaker 1: who have been in these kind of positions. I know

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Speaker 1: what it's like and you feel powerless, and women should

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Speaker 1: not feel that way ever. Um, But this is this

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Speaker 1: movement is a different story. Getting away from the individual women,

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Speaker 1: pulling back and looking at the big picture is part

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Speaker 1: of something that's driving our society to division, and it's

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Speaker 1: being fueled by anger and fear and distrust. And I

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Speaker 1: have the same concerns as Christina about this. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think there needs to be a distinct distinction that's made

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Speaker 1: between harassment cases, and she talked about about this too.

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Speaker 1: You know, there are some cases, Danielle, for example, the

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Speaker 1: Weinstein case. You know, here you have a guy who's

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Speaker 1: high profile, not accountable to anyone, and that is really

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Speaker 1: a very difficult situation to be And if you're a

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Speaker 1: woman and you are being abused by a man like Weinstein,

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Speaker 1: then you take a look at some corporation as a

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Speaker 1: company I work, for example, there are levels of accountability

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Speaker 1: and there are there are steps that I can take

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Speaker 1: if I ever felt that I was being harassed in

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Speaker 1: some way. Danielle, would you agree with that that distinctions

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Speaker 1: need to be made and perhaps we have to redefine it.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more actually with both of you. I

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Speaker 1: think that we had to have a really thoughtful conversation

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Speaker 1: about what's happening within the Me Too movement, as that

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Speaker 1: there is a spectrum of behavior to this point, not

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Speaker 1: all of which is criminal or even actionable. My concern

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Speaker 1: is that first and first, I'm really happy that people

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Speaker 1: are talking about this because this is something that isn't

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Speaker 1: spoken about. It hasn't seen spoken about on master really

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Speaker 1: certainly in my in my living memory. I want to

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Speaker 1: say some like six percent of sexual assaults are reported,

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Speaker 1: and that's partly because there's a huge sense of shame

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Speaker 1: associated with the victims of crimes of a sexual nature.

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Speaker 1: But I will say that we have to be thoughtful,

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Speaker 1: that not all behavior should be treated equally, and that

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Speaker 1: we have to have processes in place, because I worry

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Speaker 1: about a rush to judgment, and I worry actually about

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Speaker 1: a backlash whereby women who are stepping forward are somehow

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Speaker 1: one way another. Eventually there's a backlash where women have

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Speaker 1: problems getting hired, where women are not brought into meetings,

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Speaker 1: where there's concerns that were there will be allegations. So

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Speaker 1: in this sort of sound white media environment that we

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Speaker 1: live in, in a social media environment where everything is

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Speaker 1: is sort of is punchy and short, this is a

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Speaker 1: place where we need to have thoughtful discussion about how

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Speaker 1: we move this forward and how we empower women. You know,

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Speaker 1: and you're right, and d C. I'm thinking you know

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Speaker 1: if we if me too, if hashtag me too becomes

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Speaker 1: a panic in many ways, it has, as Daniels just mentioned,

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Speaker 1: in many ways, it has become a panic. What happens then,

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Speaker 1: is that we do lose sight of those women who

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Speaker 1: have had a sincerely and frightening experience in the workplace.

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Speaker 1: And and I just feel like we lose sight of that.

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Speaker 1: If we're if we're so worried about every little thing,

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Speaker 1: If a guy flirting with us now becomes harassment, Uh,

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Speaker 1: then what about the woman who has suffered real harassment?

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Speaker 1: What about her? Oh? When we everyone a victim, we

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Speaker 1: lose the real victim. This is this is something that

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Speaker 1: we have to be on guard against, and it's something

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Speaker 1: that we're seeing happening. I mean, I already hear people

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Speaker 1: not wanting to believe anything that comes forward, and we

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Speaker 1: saw this with the Roy Moore thing. UM, I will

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Speaker 1: be up front. I didn't find these sexual fault um

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Speaker 1: harassment charges credible. But my first response was this is

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Speaker 1: so politicized. I don't trust it, and um, I need

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Speaker 1: more information and more time to be able to process this.

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Speaker 1: And I felt like it was being rammed down my

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Speaker 1: throat to believe and I did think to myself, I

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Speaker 1: was like, you know, the sad thing here, talking kind

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Speaker 1: of to myself, is that you know, I do want

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Speaker 1: more time. I want more time to process. I don't

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Speaker 1: like accusation to be indictment and immediately punishing men without

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Speaker 1: a lot of information brought forward, even in the court

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Speaker 1: of public opinion. I think we need to be judicious

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Speaker 1: and cautious and take our time with it. But then

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Speaker 1: I thought to myself, you know, the sad thing is

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Speaker 1: is if this really did happen, or if these are

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Speaker 1: cases that this is actually true. I feel for the

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Speaker 1: women because they're caught up in a wave of um

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Speaker 1: credibility problem and you know, it's just doubt that that

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Speaker 1: will drive it, and I do I am concerned not

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Speaker 1: only about that, about the women, the victims being lost,

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Speaker 1: but also just the environment of hostility in the division

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Speaker 1: between the sexes that I see happening, and how that

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Speaker 1: creates a breakdown in society and the distrust that we

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Speaker 1: have between people in the relationships that are being broken.

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Speaker 1: I actually think that that, long term is the biggest

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Speaker 1: problem that's going to come out of this is a

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Speaker 1: breakdown of relationships. And you cannot if you don't have

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Speaker 1: freedom and relationships, and you don't have a commonality of trust,

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Speaker 1: you cannot have a democracy, you know, d C and Danielle.

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Speaker 1: Earlier this month, DC, you wrote can we be honest

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Speaker 1: about women? And God? You were so honest and it's guys.

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Speaker 1: I was afraid for you for being that honest. But

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Speaker 1: you said, here's a little secret that we have to

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Speaker 1: say out loud. Women love the sexual interplay they experienced

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Speaker 1: with men, and they relish men desiring their beauty. And Danielle,

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Speaker 1: this reminds me of the recent outrage um that teen

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Speaker 1: Vogue expressed because of a sexist, what they called sexist

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Choo shoe ad. Now that ad started this beautiful

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Speaker 1: care I can't remember her last name. She's just stunning,

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Speaker 1: honest to God, and she's got these beautiful Jimmy Choo

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Speaker 1: shoes on and who doesn't love Jimmy Choo shoes. But

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Speaker 1: the ad that was running on YouTube had men say, hey,

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Speaker 1: nice shoes, nice shoes, and that they considered cat calls sexist. Um.

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Speaker 1: They they they were so angry and upset about it

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Speaker 1: that Jimmy Choo eventually took that ad down from YouTube.

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Speaker 1: But I thought, you know what I have had even

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Speaker 1: women say to me on the streets, Hey, I love

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Speaker 1: those shoes. I like it. You know, my god, if

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Speaker 1: a man still tells me he likes my shoes, at

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Speaker 1: least my shoes like my shoes. We do like that

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Speaker 1: little bit of interplay. I mean most of us do,

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Speaker 1: and we we recognize it for what it is. Danielle,

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Speaker 1: I do not take offense at any kind of comment

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Speaker 1: that's not derogatory or makes me feel threatened that comes

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Speaker 1: from a man. No, and I don't see that, I said.

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Speaker 1: I think the key here is what maybe underlying the concerns.

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Speaker 1: I think that we have to live in a society

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Speaker 1: where we can speak freely to one another and we're

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Speaker 1: not concerned that things will be taken out of context.

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Speaker 1: I think that maybe the criticisms of ads that are

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Speaker 1: considered to be sexist is that there is an underlying

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Speaker 1: inequality and we're still sort of fighting for their inequality.

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Speaker 1: So we're against that inequality. So whether that's the number

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Speaker 1: of women in Congress, the number of women in the Senate,

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Speaker 1: the number of women who are CEOs of Fortune five companies,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a bigger commentary about power structure potentially,

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Speaker 1: and it's I think if we're we're if we're we're

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Speaker 1: wasting our time talking about whether ads are offensive or

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Speaker 1: not when we shouldn't be thinking about institutional changes that

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Speaker 1: can empower women and give women a voice. Okay, Danielle,

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Speaker 1: and you've got a point there in d C, I

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01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: would say this. You know we have been taught at

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Speaker 1: least I have. You are in power. You can get

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Speaker 1: out there, you can do it, you can get it

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Speaker 1: done whatever you set your mind so you can do.

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Speaker 1: The fact that you're a woman should not hold you back.

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Speaker 1: So if I'm going to be offended by a cat

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Speaker 1: call or a flirtation in the office, then am I

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01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 1: as empowered as I thought I was? I can have

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Speaker 1: victory over that and I can move on. I that

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Speaker 1: does not have to keep me down. Well, we have

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Speaker 1: girl power, we have all the feminist and power movements.

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Speaker 1: We've had it for years. We're kind of awash on

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Speaker 1: it right. Honestly, I don't see where women are afraid

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Speaker 1: to succeed. I guess I don't see it. Um I

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Speaker 1: do neither. I see the women, And I want to

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Speaker 1: be clear, I'm not I'm not saying that I believe

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Speaker 1: women that are afraid to say no. I don't think

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Speaker 1: you said that. That is where where there is a

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Speaker 1: disparate treatment where you're in an office scenario and you're

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Speaker 1: not given a project because you're a female, or you're

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Speaker 1: cold sin things, or you're given certain tasks. That's that's

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Speaker 1: something we need to address societally. And I do think

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Speaker 1: we can get caught up with you know, the jimmy

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Speaker 1: shoe add We should really be addressing things they are

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Speaker 1: a little bit more serious. But but we're taught to

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Speaker 1: get caught up with the jimmy choo ad. These young

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Speaker 1: people are are are this is what they're reading. They

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Speaker 1: are taught to get caught up in a Jimmy choo

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Speaker 1: shoe add DC. Why don't you go ahead and finish? Well,

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Speaker 1: that's the point I mean, I agree. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be having um women not getting jobs because they're

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Speaker 1: women in the workplace. But we have laws already on

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01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 1: the books for this, and they need to be reported.

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Speaker 1: We have HR departments, We need to educate women and

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Speaker 1: how to work through that in the in the workplace. UM,

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Speaker 1: those processes I think are in place, they just need

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01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 1: to be acted on and encouraged in those environments. But

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Speaker 1: this is this whole meat too movement. I see it

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Speaker 1: as something completely different. And I see it, like I said,

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Speaker 1: within the wave of anger toward a backlash to the

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Speaker 1: to the election, a fear of this's been drummed up,

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Speaker 1: that white men are now trying to get dominance again.

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Speaker 1: I see it in that vein and not really an

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Speaker 1: undercurrent of drawing for inequality by women. And I am

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Speaker 1: very concerned about the anger in the backlash of the

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01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 1: women on this, in the divisions that it's going to

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01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 1: cause in our country is just going to and I

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01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 1: think it's going to get worse in two thousand eighteen.

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Speaker 1: I predict it's not going to get better. It's going

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01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 1: to get worse. There's going to be more and more

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01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:10,600
Speaker 1: backlash and more and more anger about these things, and

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01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 1: it's going to cause a lot of disruption. How about you, Daniel,

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01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 1: do you have the same prediction. You know, I have

1347
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:19,679
Speaker 1: some hope for women in just looking at the numbers

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Speaker 1: of women who are running for office, they are exploding,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's a really fantastic thing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this year we had a woman US woman won the

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Speaker 1: when the New York marathons for the first time in

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Speaker 1: four years. Um, the economy is doing well. That means

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Speaker 1: women are doing well. Um. You know, I I really

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Speaker 1: I have hope. I think that this me too movement

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01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: is not going away, and I do think it's going

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01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: to continue to be controversial. But I'm glad we're having

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01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 1: these conversations because it's really important. But I am hopeful

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Speaker 1: for women in particularly seeing them more active in politics.

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01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 1: I think there would be a great thing. I agree

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Speaker 1: with you there are two ladies, honestly, that there was

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Speaker 1: time to have an honest conversation, and I hope that

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Speaker 1: we continue to do so. I think that we have

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Speaker 1: to be careful of our broad definition of what harassment is,

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Speaker 1: and I also think that we have to consider that

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Speaker 1: there could be male victims in all of this as well.

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Speaker 1: And when I say that, I don't mean necessarily a

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Speaker 1: woman harassing man, I mean that, as we discussed earlier

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Speaker 1: in DC, you mentioned that there are there is such

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Speaker 1: a rush to judgment that my concern is that these

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Speaker 1: these men perhaps have now become a victim as a result,

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Speaker 1: and that concerns me greatly as well. So, ladies, you

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Speaker 1: were fabulous guests and I'm so glad to have you on.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for your honesty and openness on the subject.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that, and I wish you both a very

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01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 1: happy new year. Thanks, thank you, thank you. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back with more of the Shawn Hannity Show right after this.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Shawn Hannity Show. My name is

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01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 1: Rose Tenant, sitting in for Shawn today. Check me out

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Speaker 1: on social media. On Facebook, it's Rose Unplugged. On Twitter,

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Speaker 1: It's at Rose Underscore Unplugged. Let's take Susan, who's calling

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Speaker 1: from Hot Springs, Arkansas. How are you, Susan. I'm good. Thanks.

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01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 1: I'm want to talk about these women and harassment. If

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01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 1: you are offended or frightened or quinn because some man

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01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 1: compliments you on your shoes, you have neither the capacity

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Speaker 1: nor the intellect, as far as I'm concerned, to hold

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01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,799
Speaker 1: any kind of office of authority. I mean, how creepy

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01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 1: is that. You've got to have your own personal strength

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01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 1: in that years ago, when a man would cat call

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Speaker 1: or or do something that was a little bit off

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01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 1: to you, you would simply say thank you and keep moving,

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01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 1: and that was the indication of your strength that you

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01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 1: were focused on your job. You knew who you were,

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01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 1: you knew what you were doing, and you were not

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01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 1: caught up in this superfluousness and the idiocraphy of everything

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01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 1: that comes out of a man's mouth is somehow sexist

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01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 1: and offensive. Consider he just may be complimenting you on

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01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 1: a nice pair of shoes for contexts. And furthermore, where

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01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 1: were all these people when all this rap music was

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01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 1: talking about women and things to do to women that

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Speaker 1: we can't even discuss this afternoon on this telephone. Sudden

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01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 1: the dead dumb shoes. Someone complimenting on your shoes is

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01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 1: sending people cringing to the closet. Men are not going

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01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 1: to hire women, And I don't blame how to self defense.

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01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 1: They need to find the best qualified man they can

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01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 1: find in her and immediately before he's inundated with applications

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01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 1: for women, because it is suicidal to do otherwise. Women

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01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 1: have hurt themselves again with this junk, and it's a shame. Well,

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01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 1: the problem is, isn't first of all, you should have

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01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 1: been in that segment well said. And the problem is, Susan,

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01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 1: when we do panic over this hashtag me too movement,

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01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 1: what happens is we lose we lose sight of the

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01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 1: real victims, and and and and there are real women

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01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 1: out there who have really been her asked, and and

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01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 1: and and they need they need us to take them seriously.

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01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 1: At the same time, if we panic and every little

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01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:11,719
Speaker 1: thing that is considered sexual harassment, then then we lose

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01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 1: track and sight of those women who truly have suffered. Uh,

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01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 1: and and and and you're absolutely right, grows some ladies. Okay,

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01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 1: so a guy likes your shoes, Oh my god, listen,

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01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 1: we'll get to a point where we wish men were

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01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 1: still looking at us and making cat calls. Okay, So

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01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 1: let's enjoy it until we reach that day. At least

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01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 1: my shoes will always look nice. I guarantee it. We'll

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01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 1: be back with more Sean Hannity right after this. Don't

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Speaker 1: go too far away. That's right, it is. It is

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Speaker 1: the Sean Hannity Show. My name is Rose Tenant, sitting

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01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 1: in for Sean today. We're taking your phone calls at

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Speaker 1: eight hundred nine four one sean. That's eight hundred nine

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Speaker 1: four one sean that total. Lib Corey Booker had retweeted

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Speaker 1: the twelve Days of Feminist mus Uh, you didn't even

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Speaker 1: know that was a thing? Did you so? On the

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Speaker 1: twelve feminie isthmus my true love gave to me fair

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Speaker 1: rights and wages, reproductive freedom, no victim blaming blaming, no

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01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 1: body shaming, no bs diets. I'm all for that one. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Gender bias broken shame, free, breastfeeding equality, proud working mom's mail,

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01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 1: allot mail, allies, and no tampon tax and a group

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01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 1: free Christmas party. Oh that's really cool. Okay. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: and by the way, did you notice that the Senate

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Speaker 1: waited until Christmas before they told how many harassment settlements

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01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 1: there were paid out? Yeah, they waited so that not

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01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people heard about this. They released a

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Speaker 1: report revealing that the Senate has spent one and a

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Speaker 1: half million dollars on workplace harassment settlements. Since we're gonna

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01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 1: take some of your phone calls here, let's go to

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01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:53,719
Speaker 1: um Cappy in California. Cappy, all right, how are you today?

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01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 1: I'm okay, Cappy? How are you? I'm good? Um. I

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01:17:57,520 --> 01:17:59,600
Speaker 1: just wanted to call and I say, these women that

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Speaker 1: are doing this stuff, now they did what they did

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01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:04,759
Speaker 1: for what they wanted, and now they're paying the pipe

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01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 1: or they're trying to have somebody else pay the pipe

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01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 1: re form. My deal is I went into a man

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01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 1: field the nineteen and I proved my work not by

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01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 1: sleeping to the top. And these people, these women disgusted

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01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 1: me because what they've done is they got what they

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01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,680
Speaker 1: wanted and now they want somebody to say for me,

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01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 1: because they were willing to give up their morals and

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01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 1: their and their mentality to go after something. And then

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01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 1: when these gentlemen took advantage of that situation, all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, now they're victims. Is disgusting. Well, Kathy, to

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Speaker 1: be sure, that can be true of some women, and

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Speaker 1: but other women certainly have experienced I mean, honestly, I've

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01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 1: seen other women go through things like this and that

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01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 1: they have legitimate complaints. They really do, and and there

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Speaker 1: are others probably that have done exactly as you said.

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Speaker 1: But but that's why again, you know, we have to

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Speaker 1: be careful. And I like what d C said. You know,

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Speaker 1: not all of this even falls under anything illegal. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we really we were in such a rush to judge

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Speaker 1: right now. It very much concerns me. But Kathy, thanks

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Speaker 1: for your calling. I understand what you're saying. Um Dana

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01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 1: is calling from Salt Lake City, Utah. Dana, Hi Rose,

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01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 1: it's a pleasure to talk to you. My mother's maiden

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01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 1: name is Cassetta A Pison. Oh yeah, that's so Italian.

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01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. They're from Sicily. I

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01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 1: have family over there. I'd love to go there some day.

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01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 1: You should go. I've been there, I've seen my family.

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01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 1: I've got so many friends there I go. I've been

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01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 1: there over a dozen times. I love Italy, just love

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01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 1: the country. I certainly do some day, if you know,

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01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 1: I have a business that keeps me anchored. And of

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01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 1: course that's what I'm calling about, and and you're talking

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01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 1: about the backlash, and you know, I'm my business is

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01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 1: service already ended. And we're in a very conservative part

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01:19:54,680 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 1: of Utah, down Probo, and were heard a young lady

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01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 1: the out of southern California who was very smart and

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01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 1: very capable and had a really nice car, and uh,

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01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 1: she was just a little too much, a little bit

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01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 1: too wild, a little bit to l a and along

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01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 1: with a kind of a potty mouse and things like that.

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01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 1: And so after about four or five months, we figured

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01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 1: it's not going to kind of work out. And it

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01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 1: wasn't you know, a perfect fit. So we had to

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01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 1: let her go, and she turned around and accused me

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01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:31,599
Speaker 1: of sexual harassment. I'm in my late sixties, my bishop

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01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:36,760
Speaker 1: in the Mormon church. It was my grandkids were you know,

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01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 1: upset about it. I mean, it really was a big deal.

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01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 1: We got it all settled and all the dust is

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01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 1: settled down, and the end result is rose is that

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01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 1: we will no longer ever higher outside if we have

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01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 1: a position open that we cannot fill from within the

1501
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 1: company and higher up, which we always did. Anyhow, if

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01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:01,760
Speaker 1: the person fit and it was right, we will go

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01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:05,719
Speaker 1: within our community. We will go to our employees, friends

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01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:09,719
Speaker 1: and relatives. We will go within our neighborhood, our church

1505
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. It's too much of a risk

1506
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 1: to bring in, no matter how talented and how many

1507
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:20,599
Speaker 1: UH letters they have behind their name, it's just not

1508
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 1: worth the risk if you don't know the people. And

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01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 1: so it's kind of a pulling back from the open

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01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:29,640
Speaker 1: employee market, you know. And that's a shame, Dana, And

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01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 1: that's what we were talking about. I mean, we don't

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01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:34,520
Speaker 1: want it to have a negative effect, you know, honesty

1513
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 1: and legitimate complaints, yes, yes, but we do have to

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01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 1: define I I think what harassment really is, particularly in

1515
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 1: the workforce, and and and right now, it's just so broad,

1516
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 1: it's so broad. But Dana, I'm sorry that you went

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01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 1: through what you did, and I appreciate you being so

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01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 1: candid in joining us today. On the phone, we've got

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01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 1: a caller from Florida. I think it's Shannon Shannon are Ero.

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01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:03,559
Speaker 1: Hi Shannon, how are you? I am very well, thank you,

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01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 1: Happy New Year, Happy New Year. Um. I was listening

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01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 1: to the two uh lovely ladies that you had on

1523
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:18,639
Speaker 1: and where I can tell you I agree with due

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01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:23,719
Speaker 1: to a point. I think there's one angle I guess

1525
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:27,759
Speaker 1: of this feminism movement or whatever it is, which I'm

1526
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 1: just not really sure how that happened. Um, that is

1527
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:41,639
Speaker 1: being either overlooked, not considered, or ignored. But and I'm

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01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 1: happy to say I'm you know, I'm the proud mother

1529
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 1: of a year old and two more after that. So

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01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:55,679
Speaker 1: in my generation, the mother was at home and there

1531
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 1: was a bonding there that at least the child knew

1532
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 1: mommy is going to be home every day, and there

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01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 1: was a familiar bonding there. Kids don't have time to

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01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 1: bond with either parents anymore. There's this disconnect. Well, I'm

1535
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 1: not going to deny that that's true, Shannon, but at

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01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 1: this at the same time, there are a lot of

1537
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 1: women that have to work and they found a way

1538
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 1: to still raise good and moral children. And it really

1539
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 1: does come down to the parents, whether they work or not.

1540
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 1: I think you're right about that. I mean, on the

1541
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:35,520
Speaker 1: screen there it says here that we're lacking in certain morals,

1542
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 1: and it's the society. I would think it comes more

1543
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 1: down to that. It's what we're teaching our children as adults,

1544
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,720
Speaker 1: and what we're passing on to them, and the responsibility

1545
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 1: they have to respect the opposite sex, but both both

1546
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 1: your sons and daughters, and and to be honest, and

1547
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 1: to do the right thing as often as possible, as

1548
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 1: much as it depends on you do the right thing

1549
01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 1: and be at peace with others. I mean, these are

1550
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 1: things that we need to teach our children and and

1551
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,520
Speaker 1: and and hope that they take those things into the workplace,

1552
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 1: into society as a whole, into their communities, and it

1553
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 1: really just comes down to the parents. And and thanks

1554
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 1: Shannon for your phone call. I appreciate that. I think

1555
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 1: we'll take a break here listening to the Shawn Hannity show.

1556
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 1: My name is Rose Tennant, and you can check me

1557
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 1: out on social media. I would love for you to

1558
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 1: do that. On Facebook it's Rose Unplugged and on Twitter

1559
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:28,640
Speaker 1: it's at Rose Underscore Unplugged. We'll be back with more

1560
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 1: of the Shawan Hannity Show right after this. Welcome back

1561
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 1: to the Sean Hannity Show. My name is Rose, sitting

1562
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 1: in for Sean Today. I do a show called Rose

1563
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 1: Unplugged out of Pittsburgh. Check me out on social media.

1564
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:44,520
Speaker 1: On Facebook it's Rose Unplugged, Twitter it's at Rose Underscore Unplugged.

1565
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 1: Also a periscope Rose Unplugged. Jennifer, thank you for your patients.

1566
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 1: Let's talk. You're calling from Virginia Beach. Hi, Rose, what

1567
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 1: an honor. You're so sweet and thanks for hanging in there.

1568
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:58,640
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Hey, you're welcome. So I jump right in.

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01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 1: And it seems like the Obama holdovers and the FBI

1570
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:05,600
Speaker 1: are just way off track or hardheaded because there's no evidence.

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01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 1: And I lived in Russia for two and a half years,

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01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 1: so I for this whole probe. But it seems like

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01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 1: there's no evidence, so they're just sort of being irrational.

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01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,680
Speaker 1: But I have thought since way months ago that there

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01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:19,680
Speaker 1: could be they could be setting us up for an

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01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:22,679
Speaker 1: ambush that nobody's really talking about. And I think there's

1577
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 1: this ulterior motive. So listen to this what if because

1578
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 1: they plan, these Democrats plan long term in a way.

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01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 1: Sure do. Oh my gosh, you are so right, Jennifer,

1580
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 1: go ahead, let's hear it. Okay, So right now, we

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01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 1: know our election process is secure because it's not online,

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01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 1: and no country is hacking into these school gyms and

1583
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 1: libraries and like holding guns to grandma's heads, right, so

1584
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 1: it's not hackable. But millennials, and I'm a school teacher

1585
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 1: and I know millennials really well, they have been conditioned

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01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 1: to believe that becoming more secure means updating, updating, updating,

1587
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 1: And so what if? Right now the Dems are not

1588
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:08,600
Speaker 1: only trying to disparage Trump, but they're trying to purposely

1589
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:13,759
Speaker 1: create the longest, biggest, humongous headache and this horrible memory

1590
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 1: of this whole process about Russia and the election so

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01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 1: that they can say, look, it doesn't matter whether Russia

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01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 1: actually hacked this election. What really matters is that they

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01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 1: could have, and we know they couldn't, so we what

1594
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 1: we need to do is update our old, antiquated system,

1595
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 1: which right now we know is secure. But they're going

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01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 1: to convince these millennials that because it's old, quote unquote,

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01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 1: it's not secure and we need to update it. We

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01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 1: need to centralize it, we need to bring it online,

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01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:46,640
Speaker 1: and we need to have security updates so that we

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01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 1: can really make sure our democratic process is quote unquote protected.

1601
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 1: And this is one of those things where they act

1602
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 1: like they're doing us a favor, but they are ruining

1603
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 1: something else. And I think that they could make it

1604
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 1: so that it is hackable because they're going to bring

1605
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:03,600
Speaker 1: it online, and the millennials will think it's such a

1606
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 1: great thing because it's going to be modernized, and it

1607
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 1: could be the end of our democratic process if it

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01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:12,600
Speaker 1: becomes hackable. And if it's haackable, we know that the

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01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 1: Democratic Party is the party. I hate to say this

1610
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 1: of the fraudulent vote, but that's my belief. And so

1611
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:22,679
Speaker 1: with that, I don't think we could win another election

1612
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:25,800
Speaker 1: if attackable. I hate to say that. Well, I mean,

1613
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 1: Jennifer don't hate to say that. I mean that's a

1614
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:30,880
Speaker 1: very interesting theory and I think there's a lot of

1615
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 1: credibility to that, and I think that you have a

1616
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 1: good understanding. And one of the things that you said

1617
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 1: that is absolutely spot on is the Democrats plan. They plan,

1618
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 1: we don't. We absolutely do not. And I think the

1619
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 1: other thing is that we're not. We still haven't figured

1620
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:50,559
Speaker 1: out just telling nefarious they can be, and we've got

1621
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 1: to always be on the alert. But you make some

1622
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:56,839
Speaker 1: very excellent points, and that's something certainly to consider. No doubt,

1623
01:27:57,640 --> 01:27:59,600
Speaker 1: they could be playing dumb and we could be just

1624
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 1: laughing at them and then bam in they get us.

1625
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:07,840
Speaker 1: Oh is right? What were you doing in Russia? We

1626
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 1: did missions back in Yeah, it was a great experience

1627
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:18,440
Speaker 1: all my Russian pals, and I have to say prestias,

1628
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 1: which means forgive us for all of this foolishness that

1629
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 1: we've dragged your country into. Wow. Interesting, very interesting. Well, Jennifer,

1630
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 1: thank you and thanks for being so patient. I really

1631
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 1: appreciate that for this program, and now I know much

1632
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:38,800
Speaker 1: more about you, So that's exciting. And I hope I

1633
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:41,639
Speaker 1: hope Sean he has so many great connections. I hope

1634
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 1: Sean will start to talk about not centralizing the election process,

1635
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 1: not bringing it online, because right now it's much more

1636
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 1: secure than if it were updated. Thank you, Jennifer, thanks

1637
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 1: so much. Baibe, thank you. Let's get to Bill calling

1638
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:56,719
Speaker 1: from Raleigh, North Carolina. Bill, thanks for your patients as well.

1639
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:01,599
Speaker 1: I think you did all the thanks today. But I

1640
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 1: feel the Democrats are getting this ready because I think, well,

1641
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:07,639
Speaker 1: it's not even just Democrats. I think all politicians are

1642
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:10,679
Speaker 1: scared of something like the Trump family, where the Trump

1643
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 1: family could be like the candies or the push where

1644
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 1: their family actually starts running also over the office. Yeah. Interesting,

1645
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 1: you know, um hmm, interesting that because most politicians, how

1646
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 1: do they do it? They make money off us the

1647
01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 1: people as professional politicians. And I voted for Trump for

1648
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:34,560
Speaker 1: the simple fact that this man is not a politician,

1649
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 1: that he doesn't even have to be a politician, and

1650
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:40,600
Speaker 1: he's already rich, you know, I mean, that's right. He

1651
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:43,559
Speaker 1: didn't need this. Yeah, you're absolutely right, he did not

1652
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:46,680
Speaker 1: need this. By the way, did you hear build that

1653
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 1: a train station that's in the process of being built

1654
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 1: next to the Western Wall is going to be named

1655
01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 1: after President Donald Trump? And the decision was made by

1656
01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:59,840
Speaker 1: the Transportation minister there, I think is Israel Cats and

1657
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 1: he said the Western Wall is the holiest place for

1658
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 1: the Jewish people. I've been there several times. I just

1659
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:06,720
Speaker 1: I love it. It's such a beautiful place, and it

1660
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 1: is a holy place. And I put a very special

1661
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 1: prayer in there, uh twenty two years ago, and God

1662
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 1: answered that prayer. I have to tell you, but the

1663
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 1: Western Wall is the holiest place, he said for Jewish people.

1664
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 1: And he decided to name the train station that leads

1665
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:26,000
Speaker 1: to it after President Trump, and that is awesome. And

1666
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 1: he said that this was because of Trump's historic and

1667
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:32,479
Speaker 1: brave decision to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of the

1668
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 1: State of Israel. How many other presidents have a train

1669
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:40,000
Speaker 1: station named after them that leads right to the Western Wall.

1670
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:43,680
Speaker 1: I can follow up a little bit. I want to

1671
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 1: know where the women are right now. Just not stirring

1672
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:49,360
Speaker 1: down anything that Kennedy did, because the way I was

1673
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 1: taught in school, they did about everything they came to

1674
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:55,960
Speaker 1: women unless it's all falls. But they just talked about it,

1675
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 1: but they didn't really put it down. And I'm wondering

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Speaker 1: where all these women are right now with the county. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's interesting too. Good point. Thank you Bill for your

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Speaker 1: phone call. I have to let you go because we're

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Speaker 1: getting close to the end of the show, and I

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Speaker 1: just want to say thanks to to UM, to everyone

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Speaker 1: really that call it in today and all of the listeners,

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Speaker 1: and I'm hearing from you on social media and I

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Speaker 1: really really appreciate you. Thanks to Jason and Linda in

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Speaker 1: New York. Also thanks to my producer Greg Maxwell, who's

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Speaker 1: here with me today in Pittsburgh. UM also check me

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Speaker 1: out on social media. Like me on Facebook, follow me

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Speaker 1: whatever it is we do on there, and I do

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Speaker 1: have fun on Facebook that I have to say. You

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Speaker 1: can see my sweet dog, Linda. You have to see

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Speaker 1: the newest pictures of him. He is so adorable. I've

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Speaker 1: got a golden doodle that is just amazing. And then

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Speaker 1: this is what you do after you're you're an empty nester.

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Speaker 1: You get a dog, Oh my god. And Twitter. It's

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Speaker 1: at Rose Underscore Unplugged, so be sure to check it

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Speaker 1: out and thank you again so much. In Happy New

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Speaker 1: Year to everybody.