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I'm feeling great. It's 44 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: some new days, sunny outside. Can't complain. Okay, how's your 45 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: quarantine been going? My quarantine has been going well. I'm 46 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: college students, so I just found out all my classes 47 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: are online, so I will not be going back to school, 48 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: which is a little sad. But other than that, I'm 49 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: blessed and highly favored. So I'm good. Okay, I know. 50 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: And then you go to Howard University. I went to HBCU, 51 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: so that's amazing. Yes, HBC you pride listen. So I 52 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: just want to say thank you so much for sharing 53 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: your store in the PhD KI cast. Um. So, like 54 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: I said, you are doing at Howard University, and I 55 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: did some research on you, and I noticed that you 56 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: are a president or are you still the president of 57 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: this organization? Yes, I'm president of March for Our Lives 58 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: Howard University chapter. So tell us about that. So, March 59 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: for Our Lives just an organization where we try to 60 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: harness black students to understand the importance of fighting for 61 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: g VP or gun violence prevention laws. So we lobby 62 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: and being in DC, it makes it really easy for 63 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: us to do sit ins on the Capitol, go and 64 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: talk with representative representatives and lawmakers to see what we 65 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: can do. We go out and UM we go into 66 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: the communities oftentimes and we pass out like police alternatives 67 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: because we understand that oftentimes police situations can escalate to 68 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: be situations of gun violence. So our organization just does 69 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: a lot on campus and we've been transitioning virtually just 70 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: to make sure black and brown people understand their rights 71 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: and understand how important it is for us to care 72 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: about gun violence prevention. And I noticed that a lot 73 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: of people in this organization has been or they even 74 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: know someone as it has been affected by gun violence. Yes, yes, Um, 75 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,799 Speaker 1: our e board is made of all black women, which 76 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: is amazing to see that it's not something you see 77 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: in this particular UM. You know, realm of gun violence prevention. 78 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: So it's great that we have at and all of 79 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: us have been personally affected by gun violence. For me, 80 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: I would um say it's um with the Charleston ninety 81 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: manual shooting. I'm an Amy Church member. My dad's actually 82 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: a bishop in the Amy Church and we live in 83 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: South Carolina. So when that shooting occurred, I was sixteen 84 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: years old, and um my dad was the closest like 85 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: A and me official near the event, so he had 86 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: to rush there. And it was very surreal event that 87 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: was like a direct effect of racism and gun violence 88 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: and those are That's basically why those two issues are 89 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: very like I'm very passionate about those issues. Yeah, that 90 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: was gonna be my follow up. Because I found that 91 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: that information, I was like, oh wow, that kind of 92 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: hit close to hush. Yeah, so pretty much this is 93 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: where your birthpayr. The passion to bring awareness to gun 94 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: violence was creative. Yes, most definitely. Not recently, you was 95 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: at the Kanye West rally. Are you a fan of 96 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: his music? Um, I don't know so much if a fan, 97 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: but I do understand and I would say I grew 98 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: up with Kanye in a sense like I feel like 99 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people in my generation feel that way. 100 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: Like in seventh grade on the way to school, my 101 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: sister would be playing like you know, she would be 102 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: playing graduation itoates and heartbreaks. And then like when I 103 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: when I got a little bit older and I rediscovered 104 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: that music, I was like, dang, like this is the 105 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: music I was listening to before I even knew what 106 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: it was. So like, I really do feel like in 107 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: terms of my coming to age and growing up, his 108 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: music does play a part of that for me. What 109 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: were your thoughts when you first heard about him running 110 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: for being a possible presidential candidate? To be honest, I 111 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: didn't think much of it. But like, yeah, I didn't 112 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: really think much of it. It wasn't like, oh my God, 113 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: like let me tweet about it, let me follow him. 114 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: I don't even think I follow him on Twitter. So 115 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: it was just like you just saw it trending on 116 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: Twitter and that was it. I kind of didn't think 117 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: it was real, to be honest with you, now, a 118 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: lot of us didn't. We really thought it was just 119 00:06:58,040 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: going to be like, you know, a little one of 120 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: his plots to do to sell something, to sell something PR, 121 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: you know, a PR stunt. So how did you hear 122 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: about the rally and what inspired you to go? So 123 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: my friends like, once again, I'm in South Carolina. Like 124 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: South Carolina is not like an exciting place by any means, 125 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: So when things like this happened, like me and my 126 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: friends like jump, yeah, exactly. Some one of my friends 127 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: just dropped it in the group chat and we're like, 128 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: I let's go, Like we've been at home all day, 129 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: we've been working, Like, let's just go do it. And 130 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: that's that's why we went. And while he was speaking, 131 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: because when I was watching the video, I was kind 132 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: of disturbing because I feel like he was just all 133 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: over the place. What were your thoughts when he was 134 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: listening to him speak? Well, first, of course, my initial 135 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: reaction was, oh my god, y'all like, because when we 136 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: pulled up there, at least, it literally looked like there 137 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: was no way this is where Kanye West is coming, 138 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: Like this is a strip mall, beaten down strip mall, 139 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: Like you don't you okay, you do the metal detecting, 140 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: you walk in, there's a bar. There's literally a bar there. 141 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: People are getting drinks Like I'm like, okay, there's no 142 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: way Kanye is coming, Like this is not real. This 143 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: is a tiny little event venue. And then he comes 144 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: out so everyone was like, oh ship, like he's actually here. 145 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: So um. I think that was the initial response and 146 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: everyone was cool with it, like he was out there. 147 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: He was like Okay, so we're gonna like open this 148 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: event up. It's gonna be me talking to you. We're 149 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: just gonna open it up to be a nice, good 150 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: dialogue and we're like okay, like he's about to be 151 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: chill with it. And then he said the Harriet tubmant 152 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: Um comment. And that's when I was like, and I 153 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: raised my hand and I was like, yeah, I'm gonna 154 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: go say something. What is the comment? But als who 155 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: haven't that didn't hear it? Um He said, Harry tummants 156 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: not free black people. She just took them to the 157 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: North to work for white people. And as a crowd 158 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: where the demographics is majority white straight men, white straight 159 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: Southern men, I just I really just don't think Kanye 160 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: was right for saying that to a group of people 161 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: who were so open to, you know, taking in and 162 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 1: absorbing the knowledge that he had to say. And so 163 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: I think it was just completely inappropriate for him to 164 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: say that. And that's when, like me going to an HBCU, 165 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: knowing my history, being a confident person, just rose my hand. 166 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: But like at the same time, I didn't think I 167 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 1: was gonna get called on because there was fifty people 168 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: with their hands raised, So like in my mind, I 169 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: was like, if I get called on, cool, if not whatever. 170 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: So when you got called on what happened, did you 171 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: go to the stage and asked him your question or 172 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: you kind of rebuttal what he said about the Harriet Tubman. 173 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: So I went upstage because actually another black girl on stage, 174 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: and she was trying to correct him, but he also 175 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: wasn't really letting her speak. So I went upstage because 176 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: like my objective was either like allowed like be like, oh, 177 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: she needs to speak, or to myself then rebuttal him. 178 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: But I was on stage literally the entire event, Like 179 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 1: he allowed people to speak before me. Georgia the white girl, 180 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: He allowed her to interrupt him and then gave her 181 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: a platform to tell her story and then like praised 182 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: her for it, made the whole crowd praised her for it, 183 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: and then allowing her to go back in the crowd 184 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: like she was not someone who was on stage, like 185 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: she was not in que to speak. Yeah yeah, yeah, 186 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: calling her quite literally an angel, like he Verbatim called 187 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: her an angel from that God sent us. That's what 188 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: he said, and and yeah, and that was it. I 189 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: was just standing there watching people go before me, and 190 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: the security guard goes Kanye five minutes and I'm like okay, 191 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: and then I was like, Kanye, can I go? And 192 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: he was like yeah, and then he let a black 193 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: man going for he let someone else go in front 194 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: of me. So in my head, I'm like, okay, Like 195 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: I didn't like, this is just ridiculous, Like you know 196 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I just felt very like if 197 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: you wanted me to come, say on the stage, and 198 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: you're giving everyone an equal opportunity, why am I not 199 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: getting that equal respect and opportunity to And then what 200 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: was the question that you ask hum So I said 201 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: that America accounts for four percent of the world's population, 202 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: but nearly of the world's death by gun um violent 203 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: So I was like, what would you do as president 204 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: to you know, eradicate this issue decreased the statistics, Like 205 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? And that's when he kind 206 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: of went on a rent um and then he was 207 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: like I was talking to a fellow billionaire and like 208 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 1: this one white guy was like, tell us who it is, 209 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: tell us what who it is? And that's the video 210 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: you see in the Twitter threat I posted and that's 211 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: not your facial expression. I was like, chiwd child, child, 212 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: I cannot control my face. I was like, like he 213 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: was like he was like, I don't work for you. 214 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: You think I worked for you. But like the right 215 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: after that, he also was like no but everyone and 216 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: everyone laughed at the kid, and then he was like no, 217 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: but come up here on stage and he was like 218 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: what's your name? And the kid was like Christian. He 219 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 1: was like, that's why I want to work for you, 220 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: and then he like let him go back in the crowd. 221 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: So like he he turned this embarrassing, humiliating situation that 222 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: he did to this white guy that was clearly embarrassing 223 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: and humiliating it and he made it into a joke 224 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: and lighthearted and hugged him too. So like for me, 225 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, then we saw that pattern with Georgia 226 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: and now we're seeing this pattern with this other white kid. 227 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: So like in retrospect, as I'm like analyzing the situation, 228 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: it's like he was embarrassing other people, but he felt 229 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: they need to still protect them and tell everyone that 230 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: it was just a joke, whereas when it was me, 231 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: I didn't get that luxury. I didn't get that I 232 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: didn't get that as well. So after that situation, he 233 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: was like gave a B A B S answer. He 234 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: was like people don't kill people. Guns kill people, And 235 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: in my mind, like that's just like the PC answer 236 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: about gun reform. It's like, no, we have laws that 237 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: make it really easy for people to get guns, like 238 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: gun shows are thing we had the NIRA funding political campaigns, 239 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: Like like, it's a deeper answer than guns don't kill people, 240 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: people to kill people, like you know what, Like it's 241 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: not like black and white. Yeah, like that answer and 242 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: everyone was like yeah yeah, and people were like you 243 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: weren't happy with that answer, wine, I was like, because 244 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't an answer, like you know, so um. Then 245 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: from there he kind of went on a rant directly 246 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 1: talking about how he was like he said something along 247 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: the term lines of what did he say? He started 248 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: talking about how in this country you don't even need education. 249 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: People are going broke in college, and I was like, okay, 250 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: retweet because I feel you on that, especially being a 251 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: student in after them on that, and then like it 252 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: was it's always like with him, it was always like Okay, 253 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: the first half this point, I feel you on that, 254 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: and then it just like completely deteriorates after that. So 255 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: right after he said that, he was like, all you 256 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: need to do to be rich in this country is 257 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: by land, get agriculture, get your funds up. And I 258 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: was like and I wasn't shouting anything disrespectful. And also 259 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: like in my head how I was viewing it was 260 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: if this white girl could interrupt him and was giving 261 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: a platform, why can't I. If that's the culture that 262 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: he made for this specific um event, then that's the 263 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: culture I'm going to subscribe to. And I'm also going 264 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: to do the same thing. And I wasn't saying anything 265 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: disrespectful while he was saying that, I was like, what 266 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: about redlining? What about gentrification? What about neighborhoods, funding schools? 267 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: What about like and I just kept saying things behind him, 268 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: and then that's when he turns around and he like 269 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: puts the spotlight on me and interrogated me, and he 270 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: was like, can Donna West's son speak? And I was like, 271 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: I was very it was very surreal because like I 272 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: didn't really let it kick in that he's trying to 273 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: embarrass me in front of these people. And I was 274 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: like what, And he was like, can Donna West his 275 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: son speak right now? And then like in the video 276 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: you can see me. And sometimes I'm like I'm sometimes 277 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: I like my facial reactions just make me laugh. I 278 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: literally up around him, like I looked at him up 279 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: and down, and I was like, I know he's not 280 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: talking to me like this because I've also just been 281 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: raised like your fame, your status, your money, and your 282 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: power doesn't mean anything. What means something is the is 283 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: the contact character and how you treat people in this world. 284 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: And so for me, I had no problem calling out 285 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: someone who was saying wrong facts in front of a 286 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: group of people that were eating everything. He said up like, 287 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: that's not okay, and I like, our generation has to 288 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: stop bowing down to this American culture of idolizing celebrities 289 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: and realized we have the voice, the people have the boys, 290 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: not celebrities, because nowhere in the world do you see 291 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: celebrities idolized like how they are in America, Like you 292 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: do not see I lived in Africa for like three 293 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: and a half years. You just don't see that in 294 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: other places in the world. And so after that, um, 295 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: after I said that and he interrupted me, he was like, okay, whatever, 296 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: and then he kind of embarrassed me, and then he 297 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: was like, everyone leave the stage. And then the white 298 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: girl was like, why are you making her leave? The stage. 299 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: You didn't answer her question. You didn't answer my question. 300 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: And he turns around and he assumes the white girl 301 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: was me, and then he starts yelling at me and 302 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: he was like, you didn't come here for knowledge. You 303 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: came here to turn this into uh, some crazy rally. 304 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: You were sent here by TNZ and all like the 305 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: white people start cheering for him and they're like, yeah, Kanye, 306 00:15:55,320 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: you're right, she came here with them. Wait, and I'm like, 307 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: oh my god, you're literally why do you think these 308 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: white people was up here? Like, because I feel like 309 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: a lot of white people are so supportive of him, 310 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: and it's like, yo, this nigga not to make fun 311 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: of the mental illness was also one of those things, 312 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: is like, nigga, you know what you're doing. You know 313 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Yes, And I just believe that. Um, 314 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: I mean just growing up and this like I grew 315 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: up here, Like I saw people there. I saw some 316 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: white guys there that I literally went to class with 317 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: when I was five years old, and they were the 318 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: same one's cheering for him every time he started preaching 319 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: crazy things out of the Bible. And so for me, 320 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: it was just like Okay, like I know these people, 321 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: Like I'm not about to judge y'all, but just off 322 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: your reaction and what you're agreeing with. I know y'all, 323 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: and I know how y'all think, and like, I'm sorry, 324 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: it's that event looked like how any other Kanye and 325 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: that looked like a bunch of white guys and a 326 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: few black people. So I mean, it's just that's that's 327 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: what it was. And like the front row of the 328 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: event was literally white guys wearing Yeezys, Kanye T shirts, 329 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: Kanye T shirts, Adidas Yeasy stuff. Like people were really 330 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: die harding in the front row for him. And also 331 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: another thing, people were leaving throughout the entire event as well. 332 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: They were very black people there. Um, I mean it 333 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: was majority white. It was definitely majority white. I would 334 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: say it was maybe like twenty black people. But like also, 335 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,239 Speaker 1: like just how you heard the on the hairriots tum 336 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: video that went viral after he said the comment, she 337 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: was like, girl, we gotta go, Like you did see 338 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 1: black people walking out, like they probably the people that 339 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: was walking out because black people can't tolerate too much 340 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: people people were walking out and so yeah, and so 341 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: once he had me in the front and he was 342 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: yelling at me, like you're the person who came here 343 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: with a bad agenda. I was just like, no, that's 344 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: not true, and he was like, now listen to everyone. 345 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 1: And then this is when this is when he I 346 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: honestly like, I don't yell. I'm not yelling. I don't 347 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: argue with people. I have untolachable debates. Honey, like, I don't. 348 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: I will not yell. I do not make a fool 349 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 1: out of myself. That's just not me. And so when 350 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: he was like he was like, African Americans care more 351 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: about how they look and like gesture towards me, then 352 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: caring about the fact that they're embarrassing another African American. 353 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: And I was like, African Americans are not a monolith. 354 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: We are not a monolith. Stop generalizing us. And then 355 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: we got angry and he was like, no, that has 356 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: nothing to do with this. I think all black people 357 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: are beautiful. We are beautiful. And I was like, then 358 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 1: why don't you use dark skin models? You don't use 359 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 1: dark skin models. And then that literally was the direct 360 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: moments right before he yelled at me, and the video 361 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: that like went viral of him saying and you have 362 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: your face covered so we don't even know who you are. 363 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,479 Speaker 1: And then when you took your mask off, I was like, 364 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: I took my mask off because when I was on 365 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: the stage and asked the question, my mask was off. 366 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: People saw my face. But pandemic and I live at 367 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: home with my hereto are at risk. So I don't care. 368 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: And it's also like, if you're gonna call me out 369 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: for that, I will show you my face. I do 370 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: not care. Like I'm a person, I say things, and 371 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: I say things I mean, and I say things I'm 372 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: passionate about and you can put my name on it 373 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: because I mean what I say. I don't just say 374 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: things just for like fun of it, for the I 375 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: don't say things for the hell of it. Like if 376 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: I'm speaking on this point, it's because I'm passionate about it, 377 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: and you can put my name, you can put my 378 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,959 Speaker 1: face on it. I'm not hiding. I'm not hiding. I 379 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 1: wasn't hiding, so of course I pull my masks down 380 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: like I don't. I didn't care. And I also knows 381 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: in the video that um, he called you a soldier. 382 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was yeah, so which I love just 383 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: the soldier So from your experience, do you think he 384 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: has anti black women? Oh? Yes, I think Kanye West 385 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: does perpetuate a culture of misogynoor um. And we see 386 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: it a lot of times with black men in Hollywood 387 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: and Kanye saying about it to himself and go zigger 388 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: and when you get up girl. So it's it's not 389 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: something new, you know what I mean? And I do 390 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: think he's anti black, and I think it goes deeper 391 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: than that, because he was the guy who was calling 392 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: Clinton a racist and then now he's wearing Maga hats 393 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: and and saying that, singling me out and saying I 394 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: want Waconda, not America in front of a crowd of 395 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: white people. And it's like you, as a black man 396 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: saying that now confirms it. It's okay for them to 397 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: say because a black man said it too, And that's 398 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: why they'd be edging ads on. Yeah, yeah, exactly, because 399 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: they want to be able to say those things, especially women, 400 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: especially the black woman. And so for me, I was 401 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: just like one, I didn't know whose Sister Soldier was 402 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: until I went home and like googled it. I was like, 403 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,479 Speaker 1: oh no, I gotta see you her book. Then leave 404 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: the big book. Oh my god, it's so good y'all 405 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: on her and she was actually cool, Like I was like, Okay, 406 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: I'm sister soldier period. I'll take it. Give it to me, honey, 407 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: It's not an insult. And like when he's said that 408 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: whole you want with KNA in America, everyone was cheering 409 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: him on too, and I was just like, what is 410 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: going on? But you know, after coming home and realizing 411 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: the fact that he has mental health issues, I was 412 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: also just like, Okay, someone commented something on my thread 413 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: and it was like four points that need to be 414 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: what made Number one, Kanye West has mental illnesses. Number 415 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: two Kanye West is anti black and misogynistic. Number three 416 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: core you can of his mental health is not the 417 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: reason he is anti black and misogynistic. And number four 418 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: correlating the two cripples people and creates a stigma on 419 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,239 Speaker 1: mental illnesses that people who have those mental illnesses do 420 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: not need. And so for me, I like a lot 421 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: of people have been d m me me like you're evil, 422 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: You're you're profiting off of his mental illness, blah blah 423 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But it's like no, because the truth lies. Yes, 424 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: he has a mental illness, but the truth lies within him. 425 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: His mental illness just brought it to life, you know 426 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: what I mean. So like, if if he felt and 427 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: if he had any other biases, they would have come out, 428 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: you know, they would have come out in that moment. 429 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: And for me, it's like I don't fully understand by 430 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: polar disorder. I'm I'm a person who likes to learn. 431 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: I'm open to learning more. I did some research I 432 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: didn't like. I wasn't ignorant when I spoke on the matter, 433 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: but I will never fully understand. And for me and 434 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 1: my whole outlook, illness is Kanye West needs to heal. 435 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: I pray for him. I hope he gets that healing, 436 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: and I hope he takes care of himself once he heals. 437 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: Once he heals, Once he heals, he's not done healing, 438 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: because then he needs to understand why he felt this 439 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: way all this time? Why is he anti black? Why 440 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: did he subscribe to this culture? Why is he making 441 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: it a harder word world for his black daughter to 442 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: feel comfortable? And like why why is why did he 443 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: do this? You know what I mean? And that's just 444 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: my main takeaway, Like my generation is big on mental health, 445 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: I have social anxiety. It's something I deal with every day. 446 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: I understand Dan, but he has to heal first, and 447 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: then when he's done healing his mental illnesses, the healing 448 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: is not done yet, and that's what needs to be stressed. 449 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: Like people don't. People are trying to invalidate what he 450 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: did with his like mental illness, and it's like, no, 451 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: these two things are not mutually exclusive. They exist at 452 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: the same time. I mean, he needs to heal the 453 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: one that that's you know, changing his like that hasn't 454 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,479 Speaker 1: been a different rama of reality before he changes this 455 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: one that affects his rama reality. So that's what he needs. 456 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: You touched on a lot of things because, like you, 457 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: I grew up on Kanye West, you know, I was 458 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: a fan of his music and just watching him over 459 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: the years, especially after his mom died. Obviously something switched 460 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: for him, and just to see him have these episodes, 461 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: it's just like, it's like, what is going on? And 462 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: it brings me back to my question where it's just like, 463 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: why do you think people feel like mental illness and 464 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 1: you being accountable for your actions and your words can't 465 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: exist in the same world. Well, because I believe that 466 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: number one America. We all know it's a very capitalist place, 467 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: and oftentimes, regardless of your race, if you are a capitalist, 468 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: you are treated like the top one percent in this nation. 469 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 1: And Kanye West is one of those people. And I 470 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 1: also kind of parallel that to how they treat white 471 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: people and white murderers and white shooters who go into schools. 472 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,479 Speaker 1: If they don't make it about their race, they make 473 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: it or exactly or their churches, they don't make it 474 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: about their race, they make it about their quote unquote 475 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: mental illnesses. So when Kanye West comes forth and he's 476 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: that one percent and he's about black capitalist and he's 477 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: profiting off of people's backs, people aren't thinking he's a 478 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: black man. He's doing bad things for a black community. 479 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: People are saying he has mental illness issues, which is true, 480 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: and no one is invalidating that. But the fact that 481 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: we're holding that on a much higher pedestal than how 482 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: he treats black women is very, very very telling on 483 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: how the United States. So this is a lead to 484 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: issues that harm black people, you know what I mean, 485 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: Like this this country does doesn't really do anything for 486 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: Black women. Like this, Black women are at the crossroads 487 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: of oppression especially queer black women, especially trans black women, 488 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: And so when you have issues where they're being disrespected, 489 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: no one cares, especially if it's a white person or 490 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: if it's someone who has money. You know, like it 491 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: doesn't it doesn't matter anymore. So I think that's why 492 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: people are like riding so hard about the mental illness, 493 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,479 Speaker 1: and like people have told me, like, you should be 494 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 1: grateful your own stage. I shouldn't. He should be grateful. 495 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: He should be grateful that he had people challenging him 496 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: up there, not just me, everyone else who went up 497 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: there and challenged him, not just the people who agreed 498 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: with him. He should be grateful that people cared enough 499 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: about his presidential campaign to come up and support him, 500 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: and after he embarrassed people, they some people still stay there. 501 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: I didn't, but other people did. He should be grateful 502 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: he has like hands and supporters like I. I just 503 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: I think people have like these dynamics a little messed 504 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 1: up with how hard they ride the celebrities and put 505 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: them on a pedestal. It's it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. Do 506 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: you think he'd ever be able to recover from this? 507 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: I mean, once again, I don't know that much about 508 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: bipoe disorder. I have done like probably like a board 509 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 1: like a baseline of research about it. But like you 510 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 1: do see people recovering from like you know, manic episodes, 511 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: they can't come back with the right treatment. And if 512 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: he does and when he does, because I have faith 513 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: that he can, because I mean, he has all the 514 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: resources at that point. It's just like being able to 515 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: like take the step forward and the and the courage 516 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: to do it. And once he can, um, he has 517 00:26:53,119 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: to heal all his anti blackness and his misogynists. No, 518 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: it's real and we see it because I mean, like 519 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: and I'm not about to be like he hates himself 520 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,719 Speaker 1: and it's and it's horrible because it's like I hated 521 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: myself because I grew up in America soon and I 522 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: hated myself for a long long time. So I'm not 523 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: saying he hates himself. He's he's you know, he can't 524 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: be on up here with the rest of us quote 525 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: unquote black people whatever woke actually means. But it's just 526 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: like we all have gone through this as black people, 527 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: especially in this yeah, especially like in colorism is a 528 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: whole different like topic. It's it's another like you know, 529 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: it's another product of colonialism and imperialism and white supremacy globally, 530 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: it's another issue. But it's like I I can relate 531 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: to him in that way, like I've hated myself too, 532 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: but I've gone past that. So he needs to heal 533 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: his mental illnesses and then he needs to work past 534 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: that to heal himself and truly love like who he is. 535 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: And how did you heal yourself through your journey? Man? Like, 536 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: like I said, grew up in South Carolina and it 537 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: was just like horrible, like the things that were. And 538 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: I went to a private school like it comes from. 539 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: It was like seventy percent white like and it like 540 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: it was just very white and it was like white 541 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: elitist rich kids. Um yeah, all conservative Like it was 542 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: just some some of the things that I say are 543 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 1: like surreal when I look back or when I even 544 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: talked to my friends in college about like my school, 545 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: um situations versus, I just can't believe that. Yeah, I 546 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: just can't even believe that. Like things that I completely 547 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: normalized or were normalized in society I grew up, was 548 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: like they weren't normal. So it was crazy for me 549 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: to find that out. But in seventh grade, I moved 550 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: to Cape Town, South Africa, and I feel like that 551 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: was a big changing point, Like one being in Africa 552 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: and seeing how beautiful and how celebrated like blackness was, 553 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: even know they have their own world of problems, their 554 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: own world of racism in xenophobia, like they have their 555 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,959 Speaker 1: own world of it. But also for me, it was 556 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: seeing how accepted blackness was also living in Africa, seeing 557 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,719 Speaker 1: black people proud to be African, and then also passed 558 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,239 Speaker 1: that it was also seeing racism in Africa, and for 559 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: me it was like I'm never going to escape this, 560 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: like in a way like I'm in Africa and yet 561 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: I'm seeing the remains of white supremacy. I'm seeing the 562 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: remains of colonialism. So not only did I find myself 563 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: beautiful and started to accept myself, I also started to 564 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: accept the world for what it is, which is a 565 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: world that you know, celebrates you and you have privileged 566 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: whatever your proximity to whiteness is. That's just the world 567 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: we're in. And once I accepted that, it's like I'm 568 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: not going to accept it anymore. Now I can start 569 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: fighting it. Now I'm going to do my research to 570 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: change it, because like we I don't understand people who 571 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: just come into this world see problems and they're like, 572 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: oh well, I mean that's a privilege. You don't see 573 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: that happening to people who are on the back burner 574 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: of that. So for me, that was like what my 575 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: path was. So like I went to that super white school, 576 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: and then I went to an international school in South Africa, 577 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: and then I went to Howard University, which was in 578 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: all black school. So I really have gotten three amazing 579 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: perspectives of people in the world, which I'm really blessed 580 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: to have because not a lot of people get that. 581 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: And so when I went to Howard, it was honestly 582 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: it was my first like straight up African American because 583 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: African American culture is completely different from African culture, and 584 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: there's so many different cultures within African culture as well. 585 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: So like when I went to Howard, it's like dang okay, 586 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: I joined African Student Association because you know, I'm first generation, 587 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: I'm Liberian African. That was a beautiful experience. Then I'm 588 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: in this culture of like like you just see black 589 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: people hustling and grinding they want their like it's it's 590 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: it's just beautiful, ful it's intense. The grind is beautiful. 591 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: The culture thinks that I weren't allowed in my old 592 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: all white school were celebrated here at Howard, and I 593 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: was like, damn, that was anti black, and I thought 594 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: it was okay, Like it was just it was I 595 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: constantly have revelations and realizations of how like we should 596 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: be treated and how like. And it's also so empowering 597 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: to learn from people who may you learn more about 598 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: yourself with the process, and and you learn more about yourself, 599 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: like my English class, Like I like the fact that 600 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: I wasn't taught who's or like the fact the fact 601 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: that like I'm learning all these things about me and 602 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: I feel myself like like every day, like at Howard, 603 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: I could feel myself getting more and more passionate. I 604 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: could feel myself getting a stronger drive because I was 605 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: learning about myself like I was. I was truly learning 606 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: about myself. And it was just so beautiful and I'm 607 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: just so thankful for it, Like I'm so thankful to 608 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: go to an HBCU. Yes, I was telling Abody, I 609 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: went to Tennessee State University. So we have to protect 610 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: our ah cs. No, yes, they fall so hard to 611 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: have these schools for us, and it just really grind 612 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: my gears when black people talk crazy about HBCUTH. It's 613 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: I don't even know, like what's bad about quite frankly, 614 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: like the things it does for like the psyche of 615 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: a young, developing black person's mind, Like it's it's it's amazing, 616 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: um really quickly because I know that you're within your organization, 617 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: you're bringing awareness to gun valence and you try to, um, 618 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: you know, promote them and come up with initiatives. What 619 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: are your thoughts with the whole Brian Taylor case, girl 620 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: that links I've been calling. I've done as much as 621 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: I can, and I mean, I think it's very evident 622 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: and it's very objective is that it was murder and 623 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: nothing else, and those officers need to be arrested and 624 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. We have 625 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: to start holding people accountable regardless of Nobody should be 626 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: above the law. No one, nobody should be above the law. 627 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: But this country allows people to be above the law 628 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: because our laws are messed up and corrupt, Like we 629 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: really need to rewrite laws like we like outdated. It 630 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: wasn't built for us, and that's why I'm saying our 631 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: constitution is outdated, Like we really have to change things, 632 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: but people don't want to hear about people want to 633 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: people don't want to talk about honey. People don't want 634 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: to talk about it. And that's why I think with 635 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: these fights, like I really do think this is like 636 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: the Civil Rights Movement never ended for a lot of people, 637 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: but at least for me growing up, this feels like 638 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: the second Civil Rights Movement, or to me, that's what 639 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: this feels like. And I'm really us to be alive 640 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: during it. But more importantly, I think this time around, 641 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: what we're stressing is that we cannot leave nobody behind 642 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: in the Black community. We cannot because the first time around, 643 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: the main planner for the March on Washington wasn't Martin 644 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: Luther King, it was Baynard Buston, but he was a 645 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: gay man and he had a white boyfriend, so they 646 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: couldn't make him the face of it. This time around, 647 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: it don't matter who you are, It don't matter who 648 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: you're dating, It don't matter what your sexual orientation is, 649 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: what you're gender gender orientation is. We are fighting for 650 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: all of us. We are not leaving anybody behind, because 651 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: any Black person who stands for Black lives matter and 652 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: in the same breath can be transphobic or homophobic. You 653 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: do not want equality, You want privilege. You want the 654 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: privilege to impress other people who are different from you, 655 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: and that is just not okay. And I think in 656 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: this movement, it's also really important that we are all 657 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: fighting for freedom within different realms. So we're fighting for it. 658 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: Of course, politically we have to fight for it, need 659 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: to fight for it. Within athletics we're seeing that as well. 660 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: We have to fight for it. And with CEO is 661 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: like the Instagram accoun show the boardroom, all these the 662 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: whole boardroom of black people, and who are the blacks 663 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: in the United States of America black people? So it's like, 664 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: so we have to fight it within our corporations. And 665 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: then what I'm most passionate about is fighting for it 666 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: within the arts. At Howard, I am an acting major, 667 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: and I'm a playwright miner, and I am an artist, 668 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: and I love art just because that's what really really 669 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: had me down growing up, is never seeing myself anywhere. 670 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: Like when you looked for beautiful images, no one who 671 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: looked like me was ever in that archive, and beautiful images. 672 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 1: So for me, it's about creating that um and allowing 673 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: that because you can change laws all you want. This 674 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: is what I always say. You can change laws all 675 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: you want, but if if they don't truly believe it, 676 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: they still be racist. It doesn't matter how many laws 677 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,439 Speaker 1: you change. But art has the power to touch someone's heart. 678 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: Art has the power to hold a mirror up to 679 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: society and say, hey, look at this. And art has 680 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: a way of changing people's hearts that you can't get 681 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: just by change having new policies and changing laws here 682 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,240 Speaker 1: and there. And that's what and that's what art really 683 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 1: really really really does for me. And I see it, 684 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: and I see it happening all the time. And also 685 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 1: more than that, like it's also like less about black 686 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: media and black entertainment being so white palatable. We really 687 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: have to start making art for ourselves ownershiphip, like we 688 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: have owners It comes down to ownership. It also comes 689 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: down to stop stop benefiting off of black suffering. Stop 690 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: that if you are a black person and you're benefiting 691 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: off of black suffering stories, if you're benefiting off of 692 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: tropes and characteratures that come all the way back from 693 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: minstreul Sea Times, you're wrong and you know it. It's 694 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: time to show in depth change, narrative change. It's like, 695 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: give us a like because there's so much people. There's 696 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: so much and there's so much more people. There's so 697 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 1: much more and we haven't even tapped into the basis. Girl, Like, 698 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: there's there's there's there's a whole round out there we 699 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,439 Speaker 1: don't even know about. And I'm telling you, like I'm 700 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: telling you it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen in my 701 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 1: generation because I'm not dying years old. I'm not dying until. Okay, 702 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: you make me so proud. I'm so happy to go 703 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: to HBCU because I feel like hearing you is like 704 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: hearing myself when I was your age, because I got 705 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: a couple of years on you. So I'm just like 706 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: super proud of you. I'm so happy you still up 707 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: for yourself. I'm so happy that you're starting to learn 708 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,320 Speaker 1: more about our people. I'm so happy you discover the 709 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: soldier thanks to that food. Like, I'm so happy that 710 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,919 Speaker 1: to hear more people that look like me understand our 711 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: history and it's so rich to understand the importance of 712 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: ownership and just changing the narrative, like I'm so tired 713 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: of this narrative of our people being this and being there, 714 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:09,280 Speaker 1: but we're so much more and we created everything everything, 715 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But last, not least, what 716 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: is one thing that you learned from this entire experience? Um? 717 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,760 Speaker 1: One thing I learned from this entire experience was that, 718 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: um Man, I don't know, it's kind of hard. I mean, 719 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 1: I guess I learned a few things. I don't know 720 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 1: if I could just some of it, even do a 721 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: few things because I feel like the person that you are, 722 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: I feel like when you went home, you reflect on 723 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 1: a lot of things. Oh yes, no, ex definitely. One 724 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:48,879 Speaker 1: thing I learned about was um protecting my peace, um, 725 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: because like I've seen a lot of people say, why 726 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: did she even go there? And for me it was important, 727 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,839 Speaker 1: Like it wasn't like going there I didn't. It wasn't like, oh, 728 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 1: I'm going there to protect black people, but like in respect, 729 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: I was like I was really there and I really 730 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: stood up for black people. So I'm really glad I 731 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: did that. But on the way home, I had to 732 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: turn my phone off because I was about to have 733 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: an anxiety attack about what was going to circulate on 734 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: the internet, and when I did turn my phone on, 735 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: people were adding me they had found my they found 736 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 1: my ad already, and that's even the initial reason why 737 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: I even created that video. And so I literally had 738 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 1: to turn my phone off the first three days that 739 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: video was out there after the Shade Room posted it, 740 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 1: and I really had to protect my piece because if 741 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 1: I didn't, I don't even know what would have happened. 742 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 1: And it was also just like in my d M 743 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: s and stuff like, in order to find the really 744 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: kind and amazing people like you who gave me a 745 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,800 Speaker 1: platform to speak, I had to see like really rude 746 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,760 Speaker 1: and horrible things at the same time. And so sometimes 747 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: it was just like protecting my piece, not going on 748 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: my email and not going on my phone. So that 749 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: this experience really taught me that. Secondly, if I learned 750 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,240 Speaker 1: anything from Kanye, it was postist soldier was and that 751 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: she was a boss woman and that is not an insult. 752 00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: And like, thirdly, I guess the most important thing I 753 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: learned was that there's still a lot of ignorant people. 754 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: There's because at that event, like it was just insane 755 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: how much support he had versus someone other people who 756 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: had more truth to him, and I just realized, like 757 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,720 Speaker 1: race matters, and we have to talk about race, but 758 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: but sometimes like race doesn't matter, like in the like 759 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: especially talking about Kanye, like his race, like him being 760 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: black didn't mean anything in terms of him protecting black stories, 761 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,919 Speaker 1: black history, black women, black people like, because he didn't 762 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 1: do any of that at that event. So it's just 763 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: that we have to really be particular and we have 764 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: to really allow people to share their stories minority groups, 765 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: Like we need to learn more about black history. We 766 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 1: need to learn more about Latin next history. We have 767 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,359 Speaker 1: to learn more about history. We need to learn more 768 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 1: about trance history. We need to learn more about like 769 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: Marsha P. Johnson. We need to that was a black woman, 770 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 1: people who was a black trans woman, And that's also 771 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 1: a thing a girl. Now you started, I'm sorry, but 772 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 1: now that's the whole thing to like white gay people 773 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: who just don't be writing about black lives matter like 774 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,760 Speaker 1: they should be because you would not have your listen 775 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: Johnson who who probably got and it got ruled as 776 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: a suicide, like like I am like y'all have to 777 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,839 Speaker 1: stand up for the people who paved the way for you. 778 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: But it's because people don't learn about their history that 779 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: they don't even know who they're supposed to be standing 780 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: up for. Like, yeah, see, this is yeah, I see. 781 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: This is where I protect my piece and not stress 782 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 1: myself out how every single system in this country is 783 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: inherently racist, so I have to just stop and just 784 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: accept it. Right. And this is also listen to Stealgia 785 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,720 Speaker 1: because I got the book in front of me, her autobiography, 786 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: No Disrespect, y'all. I literally read that book in like 787 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: two days. Such a goodass book. And then she's also 788 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 1: the Right of Um, something I've read when I was 789 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,320 Speaker 1: growing up, and I think you were really liking to 790 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 1: um the Coldest Winner ever. Oh my god, such a 791 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god. You have to read those two books. 792 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 1: But I want to say thank you so much for 793 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: coming out or coming onto the PhD podcast. I really 794 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: appreciate your story. I'm definitely gonna keep in contact with 795 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 1: you when I'm in d C. I'm gonna hit you 796 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 1: up because I'm super proud of you. I think you 797 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 1: did an excellent job with holding it down for black 798 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 1: women and just black people, with giving niggas these facts. Uh, 799 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 1: If y'all have questions, Thomas and concerns. Please email me 800 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: and hello at the PhD podcast dot com and until 801 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 1: next time, everyone, later, later,