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Speaker 1: Thirty birds. What's up and welcome to another edition of

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Speaker 1: Falcons Final Whistle, presented by Zaxby's I'm your host Will

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Speaker 1: mcfatt and I'm joined by Tory mclaney and Tarren Walk.

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Speaker 1: We are here to break down the sixth training camp

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Speaker 1: practice for the Atlanta Falcons, the second with pads On

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Speaker 1: and Taren. I thought it was a great day for

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Speaker 1: the defense out there.

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Speaker 2: Yes it was. Yes, I didn't know we were going

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Speaker 2: to jump right into it. And I'm here ready with

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Speaker 2: my wacky Wednesday comment about how the power was out

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Speaker 2: this morning and you're like defense, I said, oh God.

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Speaker 1: Skirt, defense day, you gotta keep your.

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Speaker 2: Head on the did look really good today?

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Speaker 3: As good as we've seen them look?

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Speaker 2: I would say yes, for sure. They were in the

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Speaker 2: backfield a lot. There were six sacks on the day,

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Speaker 2: four against Michael Pennocks Junior to against Kirk Cousins. But

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Speaker 2: fretnan people. They are still in their red non contact jerseys.

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Speaker 2: So you cannot bring the boys behind the big boys

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Speaker 2: down legally running off a straight caffeine because of the

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Speaker 2: power outage. But we're here, so that's why I'm kind

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Speaker 2: of buzzing.

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Speaker 4: Event Yeah, So let's talk a little bit about the

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Speaker 4: power outage this morning. As I'm sure a lot of

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Speaker 4: people in Atlanta know, I know I personally, even where

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Speaker 4: I live. My lights kind of flickered, My power went

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Speaker 4: on and off a couple times last night. And no,

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Speaker 4: that didn't happen to you, happen to me, and so

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Speaker 4: we get I woke up this morning like six o'clock

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Speaker 4: and I had already had a couple text messages that hey, guys,

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Speaker 4: no power at Flowery Branch like at all. And then

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Speaker 4: it's like, we're just gonna do We're just gonna have

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Speaker 4: practice in the morning.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna switch some things around. Everybody. Practice starts at

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Speaker 3: eight fifteen.

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Speaker 2: So from nine thirty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we went from nine to thirty.

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Speaker 2: To fifteen minute difference. Right.

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Speaker 4: Fortunately, we were already kind of planning on being here

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Speaker 4: super early because Terry Fountaine was supposed to do his

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Speaker 4: training camp press conference at eight fifty five, So it

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Speaker 4: ended up being okay, power came really power came back

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Speaker 4: on right when I got here around like seven thirty ish,

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Speaker 4: and everything's been working very smoothly since. But honestly, huge

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Speaker 4: shout out to the entire OPS team. Oh for sure,

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Speaker 4: because it was a bit touch and go there like

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Speaker 4: almost all night, and we were talking to players after

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Speaker 4: practice and coaches and they were saying that a lot

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Speaker 4: of them were, you know, with their families, had you know,

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Speaker 4: we're about to come back to the dorms and or

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Speaker 4: were already in the dorms when the power went out

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Speaker 4: last night, maybe around like eight thirty nine o'clock, and

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Speaker 4: the coaches and everybody's like, you know, if you can

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Speaker 4: go home, sleep in the air conditioning and then come

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Speaker 4: back this morning, so.

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Speaker 2: Every you know, this is what this is what we do.

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Speaker 2: It's all about.

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Speaker 4: It's all about the you know, getting guys where they

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Speaker 4: need to be and making sure everything runs as smoothly

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Speaker 4: as possible even when the chaos happens.

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Speaker 2: And this was a very i think chaotic probably.

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Speaker 4: Like sixteen hours for this organization, but they handled it

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Speaker 4: very well.

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Speaker 2: If you didn't have the original schedule, you wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: known that anything changed. The still operated.

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Speaker 1: That's a great that's a great insight. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: it was. It was like because football is very much

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Speaker 1: an exercise and like chaos, right, It's like you come

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Speaker 1: up with a plan and then the plan goes right

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Speaker 1: it was kind of nice to, I think, have a

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Speaker 1: everybody together and be like, what are we going to do?

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Speaker 1: What can we do? And let's just make a new

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Speaker 1: game plan, especially for kind of like a new staff

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Speaker 1: that situation. We're going to talk a lot more about

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Speaker 1: the on field defensive stuff, but today has been kind

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Speaker 1: of a day I think defined as much by great

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Speaker 1: defense as by conspiracy theory talk.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it really has.

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Speaker 4: So it came out today that it was Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 4: who told this story. But apparently there are these things

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Speaker 4: talking about these rookie presentations, it's this power point that

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Speaker 4: the rookies have to put together and and I assume

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Speaker 1: Are you guys good at PowerPoint point?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: I haven't done a power points since high school.

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Speaker 4: Here's the thing we call them here, decks. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 4: everyone calls it a deck. And I'm like what is

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Speaker 4: What in the world do I think of those.

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Speaker 2: Like flip decks, like those little like finger skateboards.

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Speaker 1: Okay, wow, that's that is really a throwback. That is

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Speaker 1: I know exactly what you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Every everyone in middle school is just like, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: So AnyWho.

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Speaker 4: Back to the conversation at hand, we are running off

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Speaker 4: of coffee, we really are, but the the power points,

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Speaker 4: which I think is hilarious. I know Jason Kelcey and

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Speaker 4: podcast about like how it's like a thing that there

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Speaker 4: are many people in locker rooms across the league that

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Speaker 4: believe the Earth is flat?

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Speaker 1: Can you got a lot of time to talk about.

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Speaker 4: Stuff you do, especially now because you know, you don't

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Speaker 4: have your families around, like you're trying to just have

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Speaker 4: conversations passing time. And it's so funny because now this

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Speaker 2: Theories and apparently J D.

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Speaker 4: Bertrand like had a really good PowerPoint deck for a presentation. However,

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Speaker 4: we have asked multiple people and no one is willing

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Speaker 4: to tell us what the PowerPoint conspiracy was about.

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Speaker 2: And that's a conspiracy itself, exactly.

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Speaker 4: I'm very he's honestly, I'm gonna let him keep it private,

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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, when it comes to conspiracy theories,

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Speaker 4: And when everybody is like, nah, we're not going to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's either amazing or yet or no,

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Speaker 1: I asked both Tory and Tarn to come up with

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Speaker 1: what their favorite conspiracy theory is. I'll be honest, it's

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Speaker 1: not something I think about very often. I'm not a

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Speaker 1: But it did remind me. It did remind me of

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Speaker 1: that's my favorite one, and it is the birds are

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Speaker 1: not real yeh, conspiracy theory.

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Speaker 4: Have you ever seen a baby pigeon. This was something

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Speaker 4: we're talking about in the media room after Kirk like

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Speaker 4: that pigeon specifically, are government entities like like robot, this

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Speaker 4: is the thing. Have you ever seen a baby pigeon?

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Speaker 4: I tend to avoid birds.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what what makes like a baby bird

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Speaker 1: I don't know enough about pigeons. I think to be

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Speaker 1: real life and be like that's it sums up with

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Speaker 1: that pigeon. That's a small pigeon. That must be a

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't know mine because my so, my future brother

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Speaker 4: just say, like favorite conspiracy theory, just because I know

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Speaker 3: That that would be mine.

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Speaker 1: I believe the current accepted nomenclature is sasquatch. I think

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Speaker 1: Bigfoot is exceptionally yes beast.

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Speaker 3: Exceptionally footed beast.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 2: I see what you're going to.

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Speaker 3: Talk about that's a good one.

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Speaker 1: We should tell him that. All right, Sarah, what you got?

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Speaker 2: So I was gonna do the Earth is flat shout

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Speaker 2: out to Mike the situation on Jersey Shore because he

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Speaker 2: believes the Earth is flat, and Kyrie Mike the situation.

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Speaker 2: Karen's like, So I was thinking about that one, but

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Speaker 2: then I did have to do a little Google. Also,

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Speaker 2: did you know people think Princess Diana's murder and then

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Speaker 2: JFK's assassination. I didn't know any of this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but welcome to the world of conspiracy.

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Speaker 2: I don't like it. I really don't like it. But

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Speaker 2: now I remembered one Avril Levine. Yes, because I grew

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Speaker 2: to go see her in Alfaretta on September three. Log

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Speaker 2: Averril of you for some reason the Falcon's final whistle

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Speaker 2: find me. I was a big fan of skater Boy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, case in point the decks, what text, oh

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Speaker 4: the flip decks.

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Speaker 1: We have done this every single podcast. I swear somebody

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, don't they believe, Like, I don't even know

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Speaker 1: Two three and was replaced by like yeah it was

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Speaker 1: looking theories like what yeah.

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Speaker 4: The body double. There's also the one that the moon

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Speaker 4: Well, it's also well gravity and like the lack of

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Speaker 2: The flag wouldn't wave, right, but a photographer.

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Speaker 4: Also also also if you watch New Girl Nick Miller,

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Speaker 3: Anybody know the reference?

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Speaker 1: No you New Girl?

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Speaker 1: Up this up? Oh my god. Also the reptile people

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Speaker 1: in that's a fun conspiracy theory as well. But what

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Speaker 1: is not a conspiracy is that the defense looked amazing

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday. I think I think it was the best

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Speaker 2: Far of government defense.

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, dominant defensive performance. I mean, it wasn't

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Speaker 1: because the offense still made some plays, but that's kind

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Speaker 1: of been the case I think all of training camps.

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Speaker 1: Like when we've talked about the offense, it's not that

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Speaker 2: Troy Anderson was what's hilarious is literally this.

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Speaker 1: This is why it's a problem, This is why it's

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Speaker 4: Good problem to have, as Jimmy Lake has said, as

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Speaker 1: Yes, I totally agree, Taren, what'd you see?

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Speaker 2: Well, we just hit on the defense a lot. But

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Speaker 2: But somebody, oh Goshes not to Regina George him, not

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Speaker 4: Where did my story? I wonder if anybody would know

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would hope so I would too.

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Speaker 2: Conspiracy theory. Jesse Matthews had no Yeah, yeah, he had

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Speaker 2: a really good catch over aj Terrell. I had to

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Speaker 3: When did he become like British.

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Speaker 4: No. It was a really really good good day too

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Speaker 1: Lines, like I battle lines, I do. I do think

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Speaker 1: For all the as we have been highlighting, some of

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Speaker 4: And even in that like there is still this like

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Speaker 4: And also he made mention that you know, as Clark

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Speaker 1: And I think it makes a lot of sense if

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Speaker 2: One something to keep in mind is we talk about

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Speaker 2: not like Clark Phillips is going to get cut. No,

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Speaker 2: So like it's not one or the other in these situations.

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Speaker 1: At this point last year, we were all certain that

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Speaker 1: So things change from now in December certainly is.

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Speaker 2: Sure, but it's amazing to see the competition on the US.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why the competition is important, because it

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Speaker 2: These are good problems, exactly good problems. You want options

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Speaker 1: I think we can label him a good problem, certainly

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Speaker 4: To me, sometimes he doesn't feel like a rookie to me.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes when I watch him play, I'm I don't feel

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Speaker 4: like his instincts are there. You talk about guys being instinctual.

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Speaker 4: We talked a lot about you yesterday, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: Right, away too, right, possibly, Yeah, And I was really

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Speaker 1: because certainly at Washington right like he was then, he's

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Speaker 1: I feel like for that team, right.

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Speaker 2: Yes, his first reaction when he walked up to us

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Speaker 2: So that's why I say it. But he was that

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Speaker 3: The man that is so funny having a fever dream.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he was, he was. The heat has been. It's

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Speaker 1: the humidity. Honestly, is that everybody listening to this is

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Speaker 3: I thought it was really interesting.

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Speaker 4: We got really into the weeds about this conversation versus

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Speaker 4: and how you marry those two together, and the conversations

442
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 4: that I think had to be had across the front office,

443
00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 4: which has been here almost completely intact, save you know,

444
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,640
Speaker 4: for a few faces here and there since twenty twenty one,

445
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,639
Speaker 4: with Raheem's staff, which yes, there are still pieces of

446
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,320
Speaker 4: that staff, especially you know, offense and obviously Jerry Gray,

447
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,639
Speaker 4: that are our holdovers from Arthur Smith's coaching staff, but

448
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,160
Speaker 4: they're what Terry was talking about about what the last

449
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 4: probably six seven eight months have been like with these

450
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 4: conversations and getting everybody on the same page, and why

451
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,960
Speaker 4: it was so important that they got some of the.

452
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 2: Guys that they got over the last three.

453
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:09,159
Speaker 4: Seasons that have this versatility, because at some point that

454
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,680
Speaker 4: versatility is going to be tested whether or not it's

455
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 4: in the scheme that you've had for years and you've

456
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 4: had the same coaching staff, Like everything's gonna evolve and

457
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 4: things are gonna need to be taking a step.

458
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 3: In one way or the other for this.

459
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 4: Fifty three man roster and figuring out how you take

460
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,959
Speaker 4: what worked from like an Arthur Smith scheme and standpoint

461
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:37,400
Speaker 4: Ryan Nielsen Danp's like what was to now what is?

462
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 4: He talked a lot about that process, and I found

463
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 4: it very very interesting that even though there's like all

464
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 4: this talk of position flexibility and versatility, that it was

465
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 4: something Raheem has been very adamant that there is this

466
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 4: level of role clarity even in all of that. It's

467
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 4: kind of like the other side of the same coin

468
00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:00,080
Speaker 4: where we're talking about like, oh, this guy can do this, this, this,

469
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 4: and this really really well, but like when you boil

470
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 4: it down, what are we asking of him?

471
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 3: Who do we want him to be?

472
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 4: And that was a big part of the conversation about

473
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,679
Speaker 4: where this team was versus where it is. And he

474
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 4: was also asked and this was kind of the point

475
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 4: that I kind of was like, Okay, we're getting we're

476
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 4: getting something here. He was asked why he felt like

477
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 4: Arthur Blank on Tuesday, felt optimistic about what was going

478
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 4: on in the building, what product is going to be

479
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 4: out on the field in twenty twenty four, And he

480
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 4: was as honest as I think Terry has been. Not

481
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 4: that Terry's not always honest, but it felt very like

482
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 4: a very very revealing, very honest answer where he said

483
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be He's basically like, I'm gonna be completely honest.

484
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 4: You look at Kirk Cousins out there and the level

485
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 4: of play that you're getting from the quarterback position, which

486
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,199
Speaker 4: is arguably one of the most important positions in all

487
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 4: of sports. You feel that and because you feel that,

488
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 4: you feel a certain sense of optimism about what is

489
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,199
Speaker 4: being done. And then you have Michael pennockx Junior in

490
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 4: there as well. It kind of adds to this almost

491
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 4: like safety precaution, a safety net almost of that position

492
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 4: and not feeling like you have what was over the

493
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 4: last two years. And I think that that was kind

494
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 4: of a glimpse into Terry's thought process and feelings about

495
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 4: the work that's been done this offseason to absolutely sure

496
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 4: up the quarterback position and how much that weighed on

497
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 4: them over the last two years.

498
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think that, like, certainly from a team

499
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 1: and player standpoint, right, when you look to Kirk Cousins

500
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: in the huddle and you see somebody who has been

501
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 1: to Pro Bowls, who has done this for thirteen fifteen years,

502
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: has been to playoff games, has played with some of

503
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: the very best players in the league today, there's just

504
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 1: a level of confidence there right that it's going to

505
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: be like, hey, it's the fourth quarter. This guy's done

506
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: it so many times, we're going to do it again,

507
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: and he's going to be able to sit there and

508
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 1: say like, here's how we do this. I've done this,

509
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: follow my lead and we'll get it done and we'll

510
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: go out of here with the W. So yeah, I mean,

511
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 1: I think when it's what we've been saying this whole time,

512
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 1: like the feeling out there during practices just feels a

513
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: little elevated. It feels a little more polished, a little smoother,

514
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:22,479
Speaker 1: because polish some of the passing plays, right, they they're landing,

515
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: they're hitting their mark, and they're hitting it on time,

516
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: and it looks a little more effortless, and it just

517
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 1: it feels better than beIN it did, right, and.

518
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 2: Even on a day where it wasn't perfect.

519
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 4: Yes, that was something that was very evident today more

520
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 4: than any other day. Was We've been praising Kirk Cousins

521
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 4: and the pass cashers over the last few days because

522
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 4: they've looked so good, things have been so accurate. Today

523
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 4: wasn't really a super accurate day for Kirk Cousins or

524
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 4: Michael PENNOCKX Junior for one reason or the other.

525
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 3: Call it, you know, the power.

526
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 4: Going out practice is being moved, things happening, what they're

527
00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 4: being asked to do out on the field, whatever the

528
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 4: circumstance may be. This wasn't a perfect practice and there

529
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 4: was a lot of things that Kirk was like, you know,

530
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 4: every day I want it to be perfect, but that's

531
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 4: not possible, and every day you're just trying to get

532
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 4: to that point. But even in the miscues and the

533
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 4: drops and the overthrows or the underthrows and completions, there

534
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 4: still is a level of accuracy in that.

535
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 3: Like, it wasn't like it was just terrible, you know

536
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 3: it was. It wasn't like.

537
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 4: It's And I think that just goes to show like

538
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 4: the expectation of quarterback play has risen significantly because I'll

539
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 4: be honest, if there was a practice like this in

540
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 4: the last couple of years, I probably had been like, oh,

541
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 4: that was actually like an okay practice, Like, yeah, the

542
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 4: defense did well. But like now because the expectation for

543
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 4: what I have seen from Kirk Cousins, I'm like, oh,

544
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 4: well he missed on a few throws, Like we haven't

545
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 4: seen that yet.

546
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: What was what was your breakdown, Taran? Because you kind

547
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: of you were tracking Kirk. And this is what I

548
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: love hearing from him, is even on a day and

549
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: internal give us the number here in a second, like

550
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: where he was relatively accurate, he's still is kind of pissed, right,

551
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: He's still kind of like afterwards, like that wasn't good enough?

552
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: Is this is training camp man?

553
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

554
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 3: What did he say?

555
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 2: We have in this building a healthy state of rage?

556
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: Rage?

557
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 4: And the point that he was trying to make in

558
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 4: that was that no one satisfied in that. And I

559
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 4: think that was in the back of his mind today

560
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 4: where it was like we were okay, we were fine,

561
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 4: but we were not good enough.

562
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's yeah, if Kirk has that like

563
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: rage simmering under that, he's like a demon Quaker, you know,

564
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: like just all on the on the surface like you

565
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't expect it from him, and then just roiling underneath it.

566
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 2: Right, oh boy, But Quaker Cousins completed eighteen of his

567
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 2: twenty seven passes, just for the numbers out there, and

568
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 2: then Pennix was eleven of fifteen.

569
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Speaker 1: See that's that's not a bad say by the offense.

570
00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 1: And we're sitting here being like defense when Yeah, that's the.

571
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 4: Point though, like the fact that we are sitting here

572
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 4: looking at those numbers, which are by all intents and purposes,

573
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 4: good numbers, being like they could have been better.

574
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 3: We've seen them be better. Yeah, that's the point.

575
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: The best I saw though from Kirk today wasn't even

576
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: a pass. It was him getting out and running full

577
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: speed to the sideline today. It was the fastest I've

578
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 1: seen Kirk run. He didn't have a limp on the

579
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 1: on the run, like held.

580
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: Your breath on that first takeoff.

581
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: I am held my breath a lot, just because I'm superstitious. Yeah,

582
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: not even a little stitches, very superstitious.

583
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because conspiracy talk.

584
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 3: It's funny.

585
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 4: Also, I love the office reference. But we were talking

586
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 4: to Kirk and he he said he talked about that

587
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 4: moment where he took off and kind of scrambled for

588
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 4: a few yards and he's like, I.

589
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 3: Feel like I'm moving well.

590
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 4: Being able to do that instinctually matters because it's not

591
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 4: you're not thinking going back to your original point. You're

592
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 4: not thinking, you're doing and your body's able to handle that.

593
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 4: That that's a shot, a clear sign of progress.

594
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 3: He said.

595
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, though I will say that Coach Try, I probably

596
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 4: did give a little bit of a heart attack.

597
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 2: In that moment, he said, but rest assured.

598
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 3: You know, everything's good.

599
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,719
Speaker 4: And at this point I thought, I'm for those watching

600
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 4: or listening, I'm just reading his quote. He said, I

601
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 4: have on a red jersey right now. So when you

602
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 4: get hit, you have to be strong enough to really

603
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 4: be able to stand underneath the weight of not just you,

604
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 4: but a d lineman coming at you. And that's the

605
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 4: added addition of having pads on, is like guys potentially

606
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 4: coming up on you and you're kind of like having

607
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 4: to draw back and absorb a hit, even though they're

608
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 4: not hitting him right now, but it's.

609
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: The bodies are just colliding.

610
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 4: Right He's just thinking about it and thinking about like,

611
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 4: I feel good about the Achilles that if that word happen,

612
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 4: I would be Okay.

613
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: That's why that's such a huge hurdle, and it's why

614
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: you also understand I think a little bit more about

615
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,719
Speaker 1: like Kyle Pitts last year. Yeah, you know, like all

616
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: of those stuff when you hear directly from Kirk Cousins.

617
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: And there was a moment today where I saw James

618
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: Smith Williams kind of like collapsing around the pocket and

619
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: Kirk just kind of felt him behind him and instinctually

620
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: just kind of like picked his feet up and scooted

621
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: it away. Because it's like, yeah, dude, I don't want

622
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: anything to happen. But because it's so important not to

623
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: be thinking out there, I almost wonder and this is

624
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: totally me speculating never having to talk to a player,

625
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: but I almost wonder if, like, because they think about

626
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: something and that is so uncommon for them out on

627
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: the field, if that's an element to the rehab process

628
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: as well. It's like you have to trust that injury,

629
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: and we have heard players say that many times, like

630
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: trust that injury. So when Kirk is like I didn't

631
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: even think about that, I just instinctually reacted and did that.

632
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: And now I know I don't have to think about

633
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: it again because it can just hold up under scrutiny.

634
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, thought, I thought it was a good day,

635
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: like just all the way around. So let's go ahead

636
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: and wrap this up with our camp champ. I think

637
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: we have a lot of potential options. So Taren, let's

638
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: start it off with you who stood out there.

639
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: I wasn't ready to go first. I'll go first. Clark Phillips, Okay.

640
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 4: I really enjoyed seeing the intensity that he brought to

641
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 4: practice today. Originally, and this is interesting. Originally I went

642
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 4: up to Will about halfway through practice and I was,

643
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 4: I already got my camp champ. It's aj trail, Like,

644
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 4: I feel good about that. I think he's broken up

645
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 4: a few passes. He looked really good today. Blah blah

646
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 4: blah blah. And about that time Clark Phillips like punches

647
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 4: the ball out and recover, you know, has a recovery.

648
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 4: And then a couple plays later on eleven. On eleven,

649
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 4: he is absolutely like jumping around and using his small

650
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 4: but athletic frame to dump like seven eight feet in

651
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 4: the air, fully lay out to break up a pass

652
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 4: and it comes up incomplete. It was he had talking

653
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 4: about like good days the cornerbacks in general, I thought

654
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 4: brought it today and in a way that I felt

655
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 4: was notable. They were getting their hands on a lot

656
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 4: of balls, breaking up a lot of passes, getting kind

657
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 4: of in the way of the throw just in general.

658
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 4: But I thought Clark Phillips to me edged out Aj

659
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 4: Trill a little bit, just because there was an element

660
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Speaker 4: of flash to Clark Phillips today.

661
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with Aj because I and I have

662
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: in my notes twenty four erased one just in that

663
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: one on one drill, and Darnell Mooney has had a

664
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: good camp, like he had a good practice day to day.

665
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: This is just how good AJ was is in that

666
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: one on won drill. He just jammed him at the

667
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, did not let up, and then when

668
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: the ball was thrown, he was just kind of like

669
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: woop like it was such a clear and again it's

670
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: a one on one drill down at the goal line,

671
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: like so there's not a lot of space to operate.

672
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: But again, just he followed that up. Every single time

673
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: I watched him, I was like, AJ just looks confident,

674
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: like he's in that Grady Jarrett zone or the Jake

675
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: Matthew zone where it's like I just need to do

676
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: periodic checks on him because I know that play in

677
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: and play out, like there's a level of consistency. He

678
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: knows what he's doing, he's playing with confidence, and he's

679
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: a really really good football player. So AJ just shined

680
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: today to me. So for that reason, he's my camp champ.

681
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 2: I'm going with Brailen Trice because I realized we keep

682
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 2: talking about him, talking about him, talking about him, and

683
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 2: he hasn't been the camp champ yet. And I'm gonna

684
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: give him his flowers today because he did have a

685
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 2: sack and he weathered the heat and spoke to us.

686
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: I mean that's not a reason to make a camp champ,

687
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: but I'm just still thinking about I.

688
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: Mean, if that's the requirement, then we're all camp.

689
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: Champ when yeah, no, no we're not.

690
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: I like that.

691
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 2: He just keeps improving, Like the keep talking about him,

692
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: talking about him and talking about him, but we haven't

693
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: made him the guy yet. So this is me being like,

694
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 2: all right, time for Brailen Trice to get his honors.

695
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: So your money where your mouth is, Yeah, exactly.

696
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 2: Stop talking about it, do.

697
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: It, Tori. I don't think I put you on the spot.

698
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: Yet when it comes to a three way high for

699
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: Camp Champ, so has anybody swayed you? Are you holding

700
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: strong on the on the twenty two.

701
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 4: Camp Well, considering that AJ Trell was my Camp Champ

702
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 4: until eleven on eleven, I lose again, Like I would

703
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 4: be okay giving Ajterrell the day today, but I do

704
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 4: stand firm on on my Clark Phillips pick.

705
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 2: But that's okay.

706
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 4: If I'm the one that has to decide, I'm going

707
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 4: to go between Braylin Trice and I Detrell, I'm going

708
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 4: to go with a J.

709
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: Terrell one day. Brail In one day.

710
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: Hey, I just you know, as a just kicking the

711
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: candant to make the rookie earn it. Yeah, it's got to.

712
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: I feel like the Raheem mentality, which speaking of Rahem,

713
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: he almost could have been today's Camp Champ because I

714
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: think his coaching during the one drills was so impressive

715
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: to me. Like there there was specific Casey Washington, Yeah

716
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: you want to describe.

717
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 2: It, sure, Casey he caught the ball. It was from

718
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: Michael Pennox Junior was in the goal line. They were

719
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: just doing one on ones. I don't know who he

720
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 2: was up against. But the point was he still caught it,

721
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: and so Raheem gave credit where credit is due and

722
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 2: like applauded Casey and kept calling him young rook and whatnot.

723
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: But then he's like, Okay, next time when you're coming

724
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 2: off the line of scrimmage, do it slower so you

725
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: have more room to run.

726
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: Because he ran out of bounds. So Casey caught the ball,

727
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: which you know, it was a good catch, it was

728
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: a good route ultimately, but he was Raheem was kind

729
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: of like, you're out of bounds, that doesn't count. He

730
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: was like, good catch out of bounds doesn't count. So

731
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: his kind of coaching point was, you ran out of

732
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: room in the back of the end zone. You made

733
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: this awesome, nice little double move, but give yourself a

734
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: little bit more of a cushion next time, and don't

735
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: fire out of that line of scrimmage as fast as

736
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: you possibly can. Buy yourself a little bit more time

737
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: and maybe quarterback a little bit more time exactly right,

738
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, because like the quarterback has to be involved

739
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: in that as well. They got to know what you're doing.

740
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: But then there was a later rep with a different

741
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: wide receiver and Raheem was kind of like, hey, Casey,

742
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: that do that. You see how he varied his route

743
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: tempo kind of at the beginning of the route like

744
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: yeah still and Drummond, thank you very much. It was

745
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: just like perfect and encapsulation of I think Raheem using examples,

746
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 1: but also on a good play, like for a rookie,

747
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: that was a good play. He was just out of

748
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: bounce and like, so it doesn't count, and so Raheem's

749
00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: gonna call it like he sees it.

750
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 4: As did y'all hear what Raheem said to Jesse Bates

751
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 4: when he was going up against Kyle Pitts.

752
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 1: No, I did, but I can't recall.

753
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 4: So yeah, he it was Jesse and Kyle, which is

754
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 4: a great matchup in and of itself.

755
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 3: It's I mean, it's the one. It's the money.

756
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: Maker, as they say.

757
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 4: But he Kyle, you know, got the he won the

758
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 4: rep and maybe.

759
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 3: Maybe a little bit, we'll let it slide.

760
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 4: But Raheem yells from like the other side of the

761
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 4: end zone about Jesse's Madden rating, and essentially it was

762
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 4: like the Madden rating won't help you out here, man,

763
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,959
Speaker 4: And it was it was such a typical Raheem comment.

764
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: He's savage. He is savage.

765
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: And it was the number one safety in the in

766
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: the game. Put some respect on that man.

767
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 4: It was so funny and I think obviously Jesse and

768
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 4: ra have a good relationship already. We've already talked to

769
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 4: him about the respect that he has for Robber.

770
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: That was. That was God.

771
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was.

772
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 4: That was such a just or like very organic comment

773
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 4: and I think it was just truly it was funny.

774
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: It made me laugh, and I think it made Jesse

775
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 2: laugh too.

776
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: Right, the spirits are high. I think with Rahiem, even

777
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 1: when he's cutting is right, he find it so funny

778
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: that it's like.

779
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 2: Like what I said, like Raheem's love language is if he's.

780
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 4: Not making fun of you, if he's not making fun

781
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 4: of you, he doesn't like you.

782
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: All right, I'm writing aj Torell down for today's Camp Champ,

783
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: So congratulations to ajuh So. So far we do not

784
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: have a repeat, which is interesting. We still have a

785
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: lot of camp left to go and we will be

786
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: here breaking it all down for you guys. But that

787
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: will do it for today's a little bit longer than

788
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: usual episode. It was just kind of jam packed day yeah,

789
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 1: and we will be aies Thursday. The players will be

790
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: out there for kind of like a real jog walk through,

791
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,720
Speaker 1: no media availability, so so we're gonna be dark on Thursday,

792
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: but we do have an awesome episode lined up with

793
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: Cayden Ellis for you all, so don't worry. We we

794
00:36:55,360 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: do still have a podcast coming tomorrow to uh what appetite.

795
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 4: And spoiler alert, Cayden may have agreed with a certain

796
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 4: someone about their camp champ, so.

797
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: You know, we've got to check that out. Who knows

798
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: if that'll be it's not me put into the public

799
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: record or not. We shall see, but yeah, so stay

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00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: stay tuned for the Caiden Ellis podcast and then Friday

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00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,680
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00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,160
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803
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: everybody that we have been talking about, because this team

804
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 1: has been really a lot of fun to watch so far.

805
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,080
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00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,520
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Speaker 1: are here and we are breaking down everything Atlanta Falcons.

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