WEBVTT - Camp Buzz: Spicy Baker Mayfield, Injury Updates and Chip Watch! 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:09.080 Welcome to NFL Daily where chip Watch it's on firmly. 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:13.039 We're here in the Chris Westling podcast studio. What a trio? 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:17.639 Patrick Claibun to my right, Jordan Rodrieg to my left. 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:23.200 Is our news only show catching everybody up on this 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:26.639 Thursday in late July. Do we want to tag this 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:28.600 with a name? What do you think about camp Buzz? 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:30.200 Camp Buzz is good, it's quick. 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:32.000 Daily Buzz is a submission. 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:32.880 Daily Buzz. 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:35.160 You just said news only show, which made me think 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:39.360 of nos. No, that's not good because we just hit it. 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:41.159 Because we're all about family. 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:47.760 We are we hit it raising. Let's talk about one 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:52.760 of the men who might be under investigation for chip Watch. 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:55.240 It's Baker Mayfield. And yes, in these shows, we're going 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:57.440 to get you caught up with everything going on in 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:01.000 training camp. Teams across the league for the most part, 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:05.080 having their second full day of practice on Thursday, and 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:07.399 obviously there's a lot of news out there, including the 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:11.320 Baker Mayfield contract situation. We've got some great sound in 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:15.600 general on this Thursday show, and I gotta say Baker 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:19.160 in front of the podium was pretty captivating Thursday morning. 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:23.400 Let's hear him talk about the contract situation in particular. 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:25.760 Disappointing in that regard to to not have, you know, 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:29.399 to feel disrespect a little bit. And that's really the 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:33.479 disappointing part, to feel undervalued after you know, thinking you've 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:36.720 earned it. This is not a poor me things. There's 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:39.080 a lot other people that have it way worse off. 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:42.160 But I can sit here and look at other quarterbacks 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:45.680 and peers and evaluate myself based on that and put 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:48.640 myself in certain categories that I deserve to be compensated 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:51.120 for that. And I think I'm a franchise quarterback. I've 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:53.680 been told I'm a franchise quarterback. It's been said publicly 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:56.400 from ownership down here, and so to not have a 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:59.920 deal done is very disappointing. But I said the dead 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:02.560 line was a deadline, and I addressed the team to 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:03.040 let them know. 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:04.080 I meant that. 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:08.639 Perthal addressing the team like calling everybody together to let 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:11.120 them know that you've been disrespected. He said it was 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:13.359 disappointed twice, said he was undervalued. 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:14.600 Not mad, Not mad. 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:17.440 I cannot officially put him on chipwatch because the player 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:20.720 needs to say that they have a chip on their 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:22.920 shoulder because there's a special value that's applied to that 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:24.280 for some reason. 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:25.880 But I appreciate the honesty. 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:29.040 The one thing that I want, like, let's get really mad, 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:31.000 let's make it exceedingly messy. 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:33.959 Give me the years, give me the guarantees. 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:36.840 Right there at the mic, Baker like say, this is 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:39.320 how much I was disrespected. This is who's making more 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:40.600 than that. I'm better than that guy. 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:42.960 That's for I wanted. We got a little of that. Actually, 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:45.880 in a way I've almost never seen. Jeremy Fowler interviewed 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:48.840 him for ESPN, although Jeremy Fowler, you know, with the 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:53.200 two companies coming together, was on Good Morning Football this morning, 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:53.960 so you're just seeing all this. 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:55.359 It's a circle. 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:58.200 Baker. Mayfield made it clear to Jeremy Fowler he was 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:01.040 looking for more than fifty million dollars a year, so 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:02.760 he put a number on it there and that the 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:05.880 Bucks didn't get that close to that. And he also 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:09.280 said that they only offered him a two year contract. 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:13.000 Now he has he has one year deal. One you're 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:14.720 left on his deal, so if that's a two year extend, 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:16.960 it's kind of a three. But he he gave some 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:20.079 specifics there and he's thrown it out there that hey, look, 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:21.920 you want to play the franchise tag game with me? 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:24.840 Bet like I'll be the next Kirk Cousins. 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:28.280 The way he sat there and spoke with such clarity 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:31.360 and then dropped in that I called the team together, 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:35.760 he said, I'm in freaking charge. Fellas he said that 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:37.920 right to the front office, to the coaching staff. 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:39.280 He goes, I am the captain. 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:43.000 Now it's true. And when he says, you know, brought 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:46.440 the team together, that's his teammates. And I think that's 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:50.040 good leadership because ultimately it is something that they could 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:53.000 be asked about, that will be talked about, and it's 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:54.840 the first couple of days of camp and you just 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:57.240 kind of want to nip that in the button, tell everyone, hey, 0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:58.960 this is where I'm at. It's not going to be 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:01.640 a thing for me, but like this, this is what happened, 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:03.680 and that way they'll be able to answer it. And 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:07.080 I appreciate it. I love this, Like Baker is this 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:10.280 three point zero? I feel like right now era. 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:14.360 Dad Strength in bacamp, Mayfield colon Dad Strength. 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:16.200 And I talked about a world where like he's already 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.880 played his best football. But if you're Baker Mayfield, like 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.400 you're not believing that, And it's not like he's that old, 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:23.640 like Dak Prescott just turned thirty three, and I think 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:25.839 of Dak Prescott like squarely in the middle of his 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:29.119 prime still and Baker Mayfield, you know, based on everything 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:33.000 should should feel that and just sets up a spicy situation. 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:35.640 Yeah, listen, I'm not going to like try to psychoanalyze 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:38.080 some of the motivations of being that clear at the 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:40.200 podium the way that he was. You rarely hear a 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:44.240 quarterback or any player come out and speak that, I guess, 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:47.960 like effusively at a in a podium situation about the 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:50.599 situation and then later follow up on it with a reporter. 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:54.520 Videve is also going through a contract dispute or a 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:58.040 contract situation with the with the Buccaneers and as holding 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:00.520 in And I just want to say that when a 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:05.359 player at any position, also here's his quarterback willing to 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:08.000 go out there and basically hold the organization's feet to 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:11.159 the fire, it also empowers that player. And I would 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.919 not be surprised at all if these two have spoken 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:16.480 about it, If these two have discussed we you know, 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.919 standing firm and staying together on certain things. It's not 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.360 like the contracts aren't necessarily going to look the same 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:26.160 or whatever, but in terms of, hey, people should get 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:29.480 paid here historically they pay their players. Just let Mike 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:31.839 Evans go, this is not going to happen to us. 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:35.279 Stand firm and be on one accord him saying I 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:36.480 called everyone together. 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:37.520 It made it. 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:40.880 There's a divide immediately us and them. That's immediately what 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:41.719 that sounded. 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:43.000 Like to me, which is crazy because you know, the 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:44.680 Bucks feel like they've been one of the better run 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:47.479 organizations in a while. But hey, maybe it'll be like 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:51.000 a major league situation, you know, prove them all wrong. Fowler, 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:53.760 who I previously mentioned a lot of Fowler pop here, 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:55.600 was on Good Morning Football talking about that v toa 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:59.440 aas situation, saying that they have received several calls from 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:02.680 other teams a lot of interest, but the Buccaneers have 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:06.960 no interest in trading Vitavea. They are not believed to 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:09.520 be too close on contract terms. But at least the 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:13.160 public stance kind of through reporters that the Bucks are 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:15.400 taking right now is that there's no interest in it. 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:17.640 I wonder if the Chargers were one of them. 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:20.200 I feel like there's any number of teams that could 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:22.640 benefit from having a Vitavea And that's the discussion we've 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:23.520 had on the Insiders this week. 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:24.720 Shout out to the TV show. 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:29.640 That there were calls during the Vidavea holdout through Mini 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:32.760 camp like this has been a constant conversation and it 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:36.680 feels as though the Buccaneers are willing to enjoy the 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:39.560 rights to the player at this particular moment, but in 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.719 both of these situations aren't necessarily ready to make a 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.760 long term commitment. And this is after the departure of 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:48.760 mister Buccaneer Mike Evans in the off season, where I 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:50.840 feel like some people in Tampa Bay might start looking 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:53.159 at the franchise a little bit differently than we do 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:55.719 through this lens of oh well, they've managed all these 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:59.440 relationships greatly and navigated these contract circumstances. 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:02.559 It appears the corner might have been turned. 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:05.039 Not a popular ownership group back in the day, and 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:09.840 certainly not with like their football teams back in the 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.720 day forty nine ers. Maybe one of those teams calling 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:17.920 about Videvea are quote concerned with Ricky Pearsall's latest injury 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:19.720 that I mentioned on Wednesday show, But I did just 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:22.560 want to follow up Qus quickly because it sounds like 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:25.600 surgery is an option. I saw one reporter throughout there 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:29.040 that it could potentially be a season ending surgery, which 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.720 is absolutely brutal. They've had a bad couple of days 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:34.520 of camp in terms of injuries. Malik Mustafa, their safety 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:38.000 who's battling for a starting job, also has a hamstring injury, 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:40.720 which sounds like it's going to take him some time. 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:44.880 And they're they're suddenly pretty thin at receiver. If you know, 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:48.640 Christian Kirk is out already, Pearsall's out already, and that 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:51.760 could be more long term, and maybe it's Deebo Samuel time. 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:52.760 You know. 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:58.200 During our NFC West preview, Greg my most important on 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:01.240 quarterback was the forty nine ers medical staff, and I 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:03.640 have to say I am already feeling very let down 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:04.520 by selection. 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:06.880 Well, you know, it's not their fault. Hopefully they can 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:11.000 handle it well. And unfortunately them doing a good job 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:15.560 might be having Ricky Piersoll have this surgery, which by 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:19.160 the way, he avoided having all off season, and people 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:21.560 kind of noted he's been wearing that compression sleeve and 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:24.760 there was conversation that this LCL thing was like bothering him, 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:26.200 but he didn't want to go under the knife because 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:29.320 it would be a long recovery and maybe he could 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:32.160 have gotten better advice back then to take care of it. 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:34.200 Well, where's he getting the advice from? 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:34.800 There? You go? 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:37.960 It's that timeline, the surgery timeline that we seem to 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:41.920 frequently come up with certain franchises where a lot of 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:44.040 times they would prefer you to have that surgery during 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:46.760 your off season as opposed to right during the season, 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:49.600 where especially in a season where you're pushing to come 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:52.400 back from the actual injury, that's going to be the 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:57.600 lingering issue. You know, there's branches of connections to these injuries. 0:08:57.679 --> 0:08:59.760 Is one will lead to another and beget another, especially 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:02.880 as you're playing a violent sport that we do, or 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:08.600 maybe the real issue is coming back in actual season 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:09.200 where it happened. 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:12.080 And unfortunately with Piersoll, it's been one thing after another. 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:16.840 It's often been the knee, but even going back to college, 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:19.640 as you say football, what do you say, It's like, 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:21.480 it's not good for you. It's not good for you, 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:24.320 and it's especially not good for Ricky Piersol. And unfortunately 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:26.800 it just maybe part of his experience and gonna cost 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:28.720 him a lot of money. One thing I didn't note 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:31.760 on Wednesday show because the Broncos hadn't practiced yet. Bo 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:33.599 Nicks is just out there. He's just out there in 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:36.800 team drills. He's doing everything. I sort of wondered if 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:38.320 that would be the case we had these back to 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:42.760 back surgeries. He had the follow up. There's no limitations. 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:44.360 It's not like a lot of the players that are 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:48.200 coming back from injury. He's just throwing dimes in the 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:51.520 end zones. I just you know, I wanted some positive injury. Yeah, 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:56.160 Bo Nicks, he's back. Tucker Craft of the Packers says 0:09:56.360 --> 0:10:00.720 he will be practicing sooner than later. I thought it 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:06.679 was notable, Jordan, that both he and the front office 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:10.319 publicly put a timeline on a him coming back to 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:11.960 the field, which is great, he's coming back from the 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:14.160 tourney s yeah, but also that they kind of expect 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.360 and I really hope for an extension before the season, 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:20.320 which you would imagine would pay him as either the 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:22.480 top tight end in the league or very close to it, 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:24.280 So they might. They must be close on that if 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:26.600 they're talking publicly that way, I mean. 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:27.240 Super selfishly. 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:30.520 I hope it happens over the next weekend, and yes 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:33.480 days I'm going to be there, so I would really 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:35.600 really hope that this happens while I am there. 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:37.760 Tucker Kraft would love to speak to you about this. 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:41.960 NFL Daily Insider Jordan Rodrigue showing up for work, so 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:45.840 good news there for the Packers. Mike Vrabel was asked 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:50.920 about the wide receiver situation in New England. And because 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:53.840 we like to overreact to the first week of training 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:56.079 camp and the Patriots started first, it has been like 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:59.000 a drum beat in New England that day after day. 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:01.320 Kaishan Boody has been the best receiver in camp. That 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:04.560 the most effective throw in camp has definitely not been 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:06.520 to a J. Brown, where like Drake May just can't 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:08.800 get the connection going. Apparently that got better on Thursday 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:10.600 a little bit, but they've been struggling to see him open. 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:13.480 Romeo Dobbs has been like totally silent, maybe struggling to 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:15.040 pick up the offense. It's eartaly, this is what you 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:17.960 would expect. Josh mcdan's it's all it's all new. Meanwhile, 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:21.280 Kayshaun Booty's out there proven people wrong day after day, 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:22.880 and I wouldn't have made that part of the news. 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:27.319 Booty is rocking year after year, Booty is always rocking. 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:29.959 I wouldn't have made that part of the news. But 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:32.439 Mike Rabel was asked about the wide receiver depth and 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:34.800 I thought had a telling answer. 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:38.120 Men love having depth, but I would say that, you know, 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:41.080 we're always going to try to look to, you know, 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:47.079 and improve, whether that's by adding you know, draft capital, 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:51.960 painting a player, or you know, keeping the guys we have. 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:55.520 So you're asked about how much great depth you suddenly 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:57.840 have in a position, the first thing you talk about 0:11:57.920 --> 0:11:59.880 is we'd like to add some draft capital to be 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:01.959 That was like a big, big for sale. 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:07.200 Sudi is massive, there is and you know, Eric DaCosta, 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:09.800 anybody that may be interested in the services of Kashan. 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:12.040 But the price is going up, and I would say 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:15.160 the New England Patriots aren't above raising the price by 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:19.120 being like, hey, Drake, why don't we why don't we 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:23.680 miss a a little bit? Throw one of those good 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:24.520 ones to Kaishaw. 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:28.720 He's just thrown to the open man and Kaishan doesn't 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:29.520 even need to be open. 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:32.400 Drake May is like, why is our practice script suddenly 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:34.200 scripted like this. 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:37.400 Booty all the way down. It's where guy's Instagram page. 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:41.080 It's our booty all the time. It's time for the 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:45.680 off season ride along presented by Toyota. Let's go to Ta. 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:50.880 Tungabailoa started the training camp on the sideline, already back 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:54.640 at practice a little bit individual drills, not doing teamwork, 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:58.920 and so I believe it's our it's our man. Shoot 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:02.720 one day later and I'm already forgetting his name. No, 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:06.920 not on the falcony Extrand dat Dax strand that one. 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:10.400 So I think it's still him and maybe Cooper Rush 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:11.160 in team drills. 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:13.120 But Ryan's throwing passes out there. 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:14.160 Wait, is that a real thing? 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:15.320 That is a real sure? 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:18.120 That's not like that is a real thing an individual 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:20.800 like just you know, kind of casually. 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:22.240 This is uh. 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:26.600 Will McFadden posted this on social media earlier and said, man, 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:29.880 I'm paraphrasing Will. I'm sorry, said, man, it doesn't get 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.439 old watching Matt Ryan throw the football. Matt Ryan was 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:34.720 out there, like physically on the field throwing the ball 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:37.240 to receivers, not in team drills, but he's out there 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:37.719 throwing the ball. 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:39.920 Well, they got enough for the individuals because Michael Pennox 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:42.320 through like a fifty yard bomb that I saw that 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:45.240 there was a video of. I think it was the keys. No, 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:48.040 it's the dots and dat. So his arm's fine and 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:50.120 he's getting back to it. But now, yeah, they have 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:53.560 all these guys that can partially practice. But at least 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:55.360 it gives me some confidence. 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:57.400 Maybe the TUA injury that long, and I appreciate the 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.720 honesty for Marco Pennixt. They're like speaking to the elephant 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:03.559 in the room, like, guys, this is not my first 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:06.680 it's not my second ACL recovery. We are going to 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:10.560 not take this slowly, but be cautious and not try 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:14.760 to rush anything back. But the TULA back thing, you know, 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:17.040 people get dinged up at camp a little bit glad 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:18.920 to see you know he's already back. 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:20.560 I mean, at some point you're gonna have to take contact. 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:23.840 I would guess he is the week one starter for 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:27.040 Atlanta if he can stay healthy based on Michael Pennox's 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.720 timeline for returning to team drills. But camp is long, 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:33.800 like Hall of Fame Game is next week. That's part 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:36.120 of a four week preseason if you include the Hall 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:38.080 of Fame game, and then there's like another week of 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:40.720 transactions after that, we still got a while to week one, 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:43.080 so plenty of time for these guys to get ready. 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:46.160 That was the off season ride along presented by Toyota 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:49.760 because when people are the destination, your ride is important. 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:53.200 Learn more at Toyota dot com and find the vehicle 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:56.360 that fits your people. Roma Dunday is another guy who 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:58.400 was hurt for much of the off season that I 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:01.360 was concerned about because it was this recurring foot injury. 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:04.800 He reportedly looked great practicing fully at Bears practice, so 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:06.400 that that's great to see, and there was some video 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:08.600 of him really cutting hard and I like to see that. 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:12.120 Pukinakua is a guy that people wondered, could he possibly 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:17.080 like sit out of camp because of he you know, 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:19.800 he's one of the most underpaid players in NFL history 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:23.040 if looked at through a certain lens. No, he's been 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:26.360 out there, and you got to think the off season 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:30.040 that he had and what happened late last season off 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:33.520 the field is impacting that stance. Let's listen to pokin 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:35.320 Akua meeting with the media. 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:37.960 There have been things that obviously have happened this offseason 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.840 that haven't been the truest reflection of the person I 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:43.040 feel like I am and how my mother raised me. 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:46.800 And there's definitely been conversations with her to to apologize, 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:49.120 but also for her to say that she supports me. 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:51.880 And also my brothers are are I think my biggest 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.480 critics as well, So I'm like there there were some 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:57.120 some intense conversations, but loving conversations. 0:15:57.160 --> 0:16:00.160 In order to see improvement, let's address the thing. 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:03.920 I don't think you need to single out family members, 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:07.760 especially your mother, when you're trying to talk about behavior 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:10.120 that you would like to change and you were committed 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:12.640 to changing, then we could highlight the things that led 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:15.040 to those particular things, like if somebody has been kicked 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.840 off of Twitch twice for anti semitism and then you 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.320 go on their stream, I don't even know what you 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:23.360 call those things. I'm old and out of touch and 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:27.760 they ask you to do something jokingly, partly insulting everybody 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.840 else's intelligence but also yours. At a certain point, you 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:33.160 have to grow up and you have to acknowledge the 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:36.960 thing and not talk about how you're the type of person, 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:39.120 because we know what you're the type of person, or 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:42.320 you're a person who's done these things. So say specifically 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:43.880 what you were not going to do and why you're 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:45.440 not going to do it. I think that would go 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:47.720 a long way for me. I'm not sure how the 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:50.640 RAMS would prefer he approached this. Maybe they would like 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:52.200 to not talk about the thing. I don't know, But 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.400 if it were me, let's talk about the thing and 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:56.040 why you're not going to. 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:56.480 Do it anymore. 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.960 Yeah, I would say, I would say that my unders 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.680 standing as internally they are talking about the thing and 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:04.280 the many things I would say. 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:09.959 Because a civil suit, yeah, a lady who accused him 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:13.160 of bite marks and assault, all that is happening as well. 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:15.680 Yeah, so I'm going to do the annoying reporter thing 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:20.919 where I cite my own work. Sorry, but at the 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:22.840 out of league out of league meetings, I did a 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:26.520 lot of digging on this situation and what the potential 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:28.760 fallout was going to be, and the real, very real 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:32.400 concern from the team at the time about these issues, 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:35.480 wanting to be encouraging for him to get help. 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:36.440 And then also. 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:40.600 Maybe the outside looks like the duck on the top 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:42.640 of the surface of the water, but on the inside, 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:45.879 very real steps being taken to address these sorts of 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:48.720 off the field issues that he's had that he's gotten 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:53.159 himself into, frankly, and so for me, there's all this 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:55.760 stuff coming out like, oh, he reported to camp. There 0:17:55.840 --> 0:18:00.240 was a reporter there this week at RAMS who was 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:03.119 asking Sean McVay, you know, does it say he's a 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:05.399 good teammate that he's at camp right now? And that's 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:09.040 my whole stance on the entire thing is he knows 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:12.520 it's the expectation that he's there, and he he he 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:14.679 also has internal and like values that it is the 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:18.520 expectation that he is there. This contract situation, it's coming 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.399 up in the news again, but again out of league meetings. 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:23.800 I have a story in the Athletic where among the 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:26.560 things that are discussed in it is how the Rams 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:29.120 really need to see off the field improvement from him 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:33.680 and genuine development as a person, like as an adult 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:37.240 and and and as a father of a kid at 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:39.879 before you know, before they start discussing these things, something 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:43.080 that he's very aware of and and also bought into, 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:44.959 which is why he's there. And so that's the thing 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:47.320 that's not being talked about here as much that I 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:50.720 think should is is that there's a mutual understanding here 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:53.240 and then this is a situation where the Rams, you 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:57.680 know they never franchise tag players for example, Well when 0:18:57.840 --> 0:18:59.920 if they're not convinced or if they're not sure that 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:03.399 this is a situation where he's taking true positive steps 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:06.760 forward that they are looking at internally, that's something that 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:09.159 probably will be in discussion. You know, this is a 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:12.960 team that never does in early extensions anyway until as 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:16.040 late as possible in training camp. So to me, the 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:19.040 timeline really starts at the end of this training camp 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:22.560 and goes all the way into next year and into 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:25.199