Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily where chip Watch it's on firmly.
Speaker 1: We're here in the Chris Westling podcast studio. What a trio?
Speaker 1: Patrick Claibun to my right, Jordan Rodrieg to my left.
Speaker 1: Is our news only show catching everybody up on this
Speaker 1: Thursday in late July. Do we want to tag this
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Speaker 2: Camp Buzz is good, it's quick.
Speaker 3: Daily Buzz is a submission.
Speaker 1: Daily Buzz.
Speaker 4: You just said news only show, which made me think
Speaker 4: of nos. No, that's not good because we just hit it.
Speaker 2: Because we're all about family.
Speaker 1: We are we hit it raising. Let's talk about one
Speaker 1: of the men who might be under investigation for chip Watch.
Speaker 1: It's Baker Mayfield. And yes, in these shows, we're going
Speaker 1: to get you caught up with everything going on in
Speaker 1: training camp. Teams across the league for the most part,
Speaker 1: having their second full day of practice on Thursday, and
Speaker 1: obviously there's a lot of news out there, including the
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield contract situation. We've got some great sound in
Speaker 1: general on this Thursday show, and I gotta say Baker
Speaker 1: in front of the podium was pretty captivating Thursday morning.
Speaker 1: Let's hear him talk about the contract situation in particular.
Speaker 5: Disappointing in that regard to to not have, you know,
Speaker 5: to feel disrespect a little bit. And that's really the
Speaker 5: disappointing part, to feel undervalued after you know, thinking you've
Speaker 5: earned it. This is not a poor me things. There's
Speaker 5: a lot other people that have it way worse off.
Speaker 5: But I can sit here and look at other quarterbacks
Speaker 5: and peers and evaluate myself based on that and put
Speaker 5: myself in certain categories that I deserve to be compensated
Speaker 5: for that. And I think I'm a franchise quarterback. I've
Speaker 5: been told I'm a franchise quarterback. It's been said publicly
Speaker 5: from ownership down here, and so to not have a
Speaker 5: deal done is very disappointing. But I said the dead
Speaker 5: line was a deadline, and I addressed the team to
Speaker 5: let them know.
Speaker 2: I meant that.
Speaker 4: Perthal addressing the team like calling everybody together to let
Speaker 4: them know that you've been disrespected. He said it was
Speaker 4: disappointed twice, said he was undervalued.
Speaker 3: Not mad, Not mad.
Speaker 4: I cannot officially put him on chipwatch because the player
Speaker 4: needs to say that they have a chip on their
Speaker 4: shoulder because there's a special value that's applied to that
Speaker 4: for some reason.
Speaker 2: But I appreciate the honesty.
Speaker 4: The one thing that I want, like, let's get really mad,
Speaker 4: let's make it exceedingly messy.
Speaker 2: Give me the years, give me the guarantees.
Speaker 4: Right there at the mic, Baker like say, this is
Speaker 4: how much I was disrespected. This is who's making more
Speaker 4: than that. I'm better than that guy.
Speaker 1: That's for I wanted. We got a little of that. Actually,
Speaker 1: in a way I've almost never seen. Jeremy Fowler interviewed
Speaker 1: him for ESPN, although Jeremy Fowler, you know, with the
Speaker 1: two companies coming together, was on Good Morning Football this morning,
Speaker 1: so you're just seeing all this.
Speaker 2: It's a circle.
Speaker 1: Baker. Mayfield made it clear to Jeremy Fowler he was
Speaker 1: looking for more than fifty million dollars a year, so
Speaker 1: he put a number on it there and that the
Speaker 1: Bucks didn't get that close to that. And he also
Speaker 1: said that they only offered him a two year contract.
Speaker 1: Now he has he has one year deal. One you're
Speaker 1: left on his deal, so if that's a two year extend,
Speaker 1: it's kind of a three. But he he gave some
Speaker 1: specifics there and he's thrown it out there that hey, look,
Speaker 1: you want to play the franchise tag game with me?
Speaker 1: Bet like I'll be the next Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 6: The way he sat there and spoke with such clarity
Speaker 6: and then dropped in that I called the team together,
Speaker 6: he said, I'm in freaking charge. Fellas he said that
Speaker 6: right to the front office, to the coaching staff.
Speaker 3: He goes, I am the captain.
Speaker 1: Now it's true. And when he says, you know, brought
Speaker 1: the team together, that's his teammates. And I think that's
Speaker 1: good leadership because ultimately it is something that they could
Speaker 1: be asked about, that will be talked about, and it's
Speaker 1: the first couple of days of camp and you just
Speaker 1: kind of want to nip that in the button, tell everyone, hey,
Speaker 1: this is where I'm at. It's not going to be
Speaker 1: a thing for me, but like this, this is what happened,
Speaker 1: and that way they'll be able to answer it. And
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I love this, Like Baker is this
Speaker 1: three point zero? I feel like right now era.
Speaker 6: Dad Strength in bacamp, Mayfield colon Dad Strength.
Speaker 1: And I talked about a world where like he's already
Speaker 1: played his best football. But if you're Baker Mayfield, like
Speaker 1: you're not believing that, And it's not like he's that old,
Speaker 1: like Dak Prescott just turned thirty three, and I think
Speaker 1: of Dak Prescott like squarely in the middle of his
Speaker 1: prime still and Baker Mayfield, you know, based on everything
Speaker 1: should should feel that and just sets up a spicy situation.
Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, I'm not going to like try to psychoanalyze
Speaker 6: some of the motivations of being that clear at the
Speaker 6: podium the way that he was. You rarely hear a
Speaker 6: quarterback or any player come out and speak that, I guess,
Speaker 6: like effusively at a in a podium situation about the
Speaker 6: situation and then later follow up on it with a reporter.
Speaker 6: Videve is also going through a contract dispute or a
Speaker 6: contract situation with the with the Buccaneers and as holding
Speaker 6: in And I just want to say that when a
Speaker 6: player at any position, also here's his quarterback willing to
Speaker 6: go out there and basically hold the organization's feet to
Speaker 6: the fire, it also empowers that player. And I would
Speaker 6: not be surprised at all if these two have spoken
Speaker 6: about it, If these two have discussed we you know,
Speaker 6: standing firm and staying together on certain things. It's not
Speaker 6: like the contracts aren't necessarily going to look the same
Speaker 6: or whatever, but in terms of, hey, people should get
Speaker 6: paid here historically they pay their players. Just let Mike
Speaker 6: Evans go, this is not going to happen to us.
Speaker 6: Stand firm and be on one accord him saying I
Speaker 6: called everyone together.
Speaker 3: It made it.
Speaker 6: There's a divide immediately us and them. That's immediately what
Speaker 6: that sounded.
Speaker 1: Like to me, which is crazy because you know, the
Speaker 1: Bucks feel like they've been one of the better run
Speaker 1: organizations in a while. But hey, maybe it'll be like
Speaker 1: a major league situation, you know, prove them all wrong. Fowler,
Speaker 1: who I previously mentioned a lot of Fowler pop here,
Speaker 1: was on Good Morning Football talking about that v toa
Speaker 1: aas situation, saying that they have received several calls from
Speaker 1: other teams a lot of interest, but the Buccaneers have
Speaker 1: no interest in trading Vitavea. They are not believed to
Speaker 1: be too close on contract terms. But at least the
Speaker 1: public stance kind of through reporters that the Bucks are
Speaker 1: taking right now is that there's no interest in it.
Speaker 1: I wonder if the Chargers were one of them.
Speaker 4: I feel like there's any number of teams that could
Speaker 4: benefit from having a Vitavea And that's the discussion we've
Speaker 4: had on the Insiders this week.
Speaker 2: Shout out to the TV show.
Speaker 4: That there were calls during the Vidavea holdout through Mini
Speaker 4: camp like this has been a constant conversation and it
Speaker 4: feels as though the Buccaneers are willing to enjoy the
Speaker 4: rights to the player at this particular moment, but in
Speaker 4: both of these situations aren't necessarily ready to make a
Speaker 4: long term commitment. And this is after the departure of
Speaker 4: mister Buccaneer Mike Evans in the off season, where I
Speaker 4: feel like some people in Tampa Bay might start looking
Speaker 4: at the franchise a little bit differently than we do
Speaker 4: through this lens of oh well, they've managed all these
Speaker 4: relationships greatly and navigated these contract circumstances.
Speaker 2: It appears the corner might have been turned.
Speaker 1: Not a popular ownership group back in the day, and
Speaker 1: certainly not with like their football teams back in the
Speaker 1: day forty nine ers. Maybe one of those teams calling
Speaker 1: about Videvea are quote concerned with Ricky Pearsall's latest injury
Speaker 1: that I mentioned on Wednesday show, But I did just
Speaker 1: want to follow up Qus quickly because it sounds like
Speaker 1: surgery is an option. I saw one reporter throughout there
Speaker 1: that it could potentially be a season ending surgery, which
Speaker 1: is absolutely brutal. They've had a bad couple of days
Speaker 1: of camp in terms of injuries. Malik Mustafa, their safety
Speaker 1: who's battling for a starting job, also has a hamstring injury,
Speaker 1: which sounds like it's going to take him some time.
Speaker 1: And they're they're suddenly pretty thin at receiver. If you know,
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk is out already, Pearsall's out already, and that
Speaker 1: could be more long term, and maybe it's Deebo Samuel time.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: During our NFC West preview, Greg my most important on
Speaker 6: quarterback was the forty nine ers medical staff, and I
Speaker 6: have to say I am already feeling very let down
Speaker 6: by selection.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's not their fault. Hopefully they can
Speaker 1: handle it well. And unfortunately them doing a good job
Speaker 1: might be having Ricky Piersoll have this surgery, which by
Speaker 1: the way, he avoided having all off season, and people
Speaker 1: kind of noted he's been wearing that compression sleeve and
Speaker 1: there was conversation that this LCL thing was like bothering him,
Speaker 1: but he didn't want to go under the knife because
Speaker 1: it would be a long recovery and maybe he could
Speaker 1: have gotten better advice back then to take care of it.
Speaker 3: Well, where's he getting the advice from?
Speaker 2: There? You go?
Speaker 4: It's that timeline, the surgery timeline that we seem to
Speaker 4: frequently come up with certain franchises where a lot of
Speaker 4: times they would prefer you to have that surgery during
Speaker 4: your off season as opposed to right during the season,
Speaker 4: where especially in a season where you're pushing to come
Speaker 4: back from the actual injury, that's going to be the
Speaker 4: lingering issue. You know, there's branches of connections to these injuries.
Speaker 4: Is one will lead to another and beget another, especially
Speaker 4: as you're playing a violent sport that we do, or
Speaker 4: maybe the real issue is coming back in actual season
Speaker 4: where it happened.
Speaker 1: And unfortunately with Piersoll, it's been one thing after another.
Speaker 1: It's often been the knee, but even going back to college,
Speaker 1: as you say football, what do you say, It's like,
Speaker 1: it's not good for you. It's not good for you,
Speaker 1: and it's especially not good for Ricky Piersol. And unfortunately
Speaker 1: it just maybe part of his experience and gonna cost
Speaker 1: him a lot of money. One thing I didn't note
Speaker 1: on Wednesday show because the Broncos hadn't practiced yet. Bo
Speaker 1: Nicks is just out there. He's just out there in
Speaker 1: team drills. He's doing everything. I sort of wondered if
Speaker 1: that would be the case we had these back to
Speaker 1: back surgeries. He had the follow up. There's no limitations.
Speaker 1: It's not like a lot of the players that are
Speaker 1: coming back from injury. He's just throwing dimes in the
Speaker 1: end zones. I just you know, I wanted some positive injury. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Bo Nicks, he's back. Tucker Craft of the Packers says
Speaker 1: he will be practicing sooner than later. I thought it
Speaker 1: was notable, Jordan, that both he and the front office
Speaker 1: publicly put a timeline on a him coming back to
Speaker 1: the field, which is great, he's coming back from the
Speaker 1: tourney s yeah, but also that they kind of expect
Speaker 1: and I really hope for an extension before the season,
Speaker 1: which you would imagine would pay him as either the
Speaker 1: top tight end in the league or very close to it,
Speaker 1: So they might. They must be close on that if
Speaker 1: they're talking publicly that way, I mean.
Speaker 3: Super selfishly.
Speaker 6: I hope it happens over the next weekend, and yes
Speaker 6: days I'm going to be there, so I would really
Speaker 6: really hope that this happens while I am there.
Speaker 3: Tucker Kraft would love to speak to you about this.
Speaker 1: NFL Daily Insider Jordan Rodrigue showing up for work, so
Speaker 1: good news there for the Packers. Mike Vrabel was asked
Speaker 1: about the wide receiver situation in New England. And because
Speaker 1: we like to overreact to the first week of training
Speaker 1: camp and the Patriots started first, it has been like
Speaker 1: a drum beat in New England that day after day.
Speaker 1: Kaishan Boody has been the best receiver in camp. That
Speaker 1: the most effective throw in camp has definitely not been
Speaker 1: to a J. Brown, where like Drake May just can't
Speaker 1: get the connection going. Apparently that got better on Thursday
Speaker 1: a little bit, but they've been struggling to see him open.
Speaker 1: Romeo Dobbs has been like totally silent, maybe struggling to
Speaker 1: pick up the offense. It's eartaly, this is what you
Speaker 1: would expect. Josh mcdan's it's all it's all new. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Kayshaun Booty's out there proven people wrong day after day,
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't have made that part of the news.
Speaker 1: Booty is rocking year after year, Booty is always rocking.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have made that part of the news. But
Speaker 1: Mike Rabel was asked about the wide receiver depth and
Speaker 1: I thought had a telling answer.
Speaker 7: Men love having depth, but I would say that, you know,
Speaker 7: we're always going to try to look to, you know,
Speaker 7: and improve, whether that's by adding you know, draft capital,
Speaker 7: painting a player, or you know, keeping the guys we have.
Speaker 1: So you're asked about how much great depth you suddenly
Speaker 1: have in a position, the first thing you talk about
Speaker 1: is we'd like to add some draft capital to be
Speaker 1: That was like a big, big for sale.
Speaker 4: Sudi is massive, there is and you know, Eric DaCosta,
Speaker 4: anybody that may be interested in the services of Kashan.
Speaker 4: But the price is going up, and I would say
Speaker 4: the New England Patriots aren't above raising the price by
Speaker 4: being like, hey, Drake, why don't we why don't we
Speaker 4: miss a a little bit? Throw one of those good
Speaker 4: ones to Kaishaw.
Speaker 1: He's just thrown to the open man and Kaishan doesn't
Speaker 1: even need to be open.
Speaker 6: Drake May is like, why is our practice script suddenly
Speaker 6: scripted like this.
Speaker 2: Booty all the way down. It's where guy's Instagram page.
Speaker 1: It's our booty all the time. It's time for the
Speaker 1: off season ride along presented by Toyota. Let's go to Ta.
Speaker 1: Tungabailoa started the training camp on the sideline, already back
Speaker 1: at practice a little bit individual drills, not doing teamwork,
Speaker 1: and so I believe it's our it's our man. Shoot
Speaker 1: one day later and I'm already forgetting his name. No,
Speaker 1: not on the falcony Extrand dat Dax strand that one.
Speaker 1: So I think it's still him and maybe Cooper Rush
Speaker 1: in team drills.
Speaker 3: But Ryan's throwing passes out there.
Speaker 2: Wait, is that a real thing?
Speaker 3: That is a real sure?
Speaker 6: That's not like that is a real thing an individual
Speaker 6: like just you know, kind of casually.
Speaker 3: This is uh.
Speaker 6: Will McFadden posted this on social media earlier and said, man,
Speaker 6: I'm paraphrasing Will. I'm sorry, said, man, it doesn't get
Speaker 6: old watching Matt Ryan throw the football. Matt Ryan was
Speaker 6: out there, like physically on the field throwing the ball
Speaker 6: to receivers, not in team drills, but he's out there
Speaker 6: throwing the ball.
Speaker 1: Well, they got enough for the individuals because Michael Pennox
Speaker 1: through like a fifty yard bomb that I saw that
Speaker 1: there was a video of. I think it was the keys. No,
Speaker 1: it's the dots and dat. So his arm's fine and
Speaker 1: he's getting back to it. But now, yeah, they have
Speaker 1: all these guys that can partially practice. But at least
Speaker 1: it gives me some confidence.
Speaker 4: Maybe the TUA injury that long, and I appreciate the
Speaker 4: honesty for Marco Pennixt. They're like speaking to the elephant
Speaker 4: in the room, like, guys, this is not my first
Speaker 4: it's not my second ACL recovery. We are going to
Speaker 4: not take this slowly, but be cautious and not try
Speaker 4: to rush anything back. But the TULA back thing, you know,
Speaker 4: people get dinged up at camp a little bit glad
Speaker 4: to see you know he's already back.
Speaker 1: I mean, at some point you're gonna have to take contact.
Speaker 1: I would guess he is the week one starter for
Speaker 1: Atlanta if he can stay healthy based on Michael Pennox's
Speaker 1: timeline for returning to team drills. But camp is long,
Speaker 1: like Hall of Fame Game is next week. That's part
Speaker 1: of a four week preseason if you include the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame game, and then there's like another week of
Speaker 1: transactions after that, we still got a while to week one,
Speaker 1: so plenty of time for these guys to get ready.
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Speaker 1: that fits your people. Roma Dunday is another guy who
Speaker 1: was hurt for much of the off season that I
Speaker 1: was concerned about because it was this recurring foot injury.
Speaker 1: He reportedly looked great practicing fully at Bears practice, so
Speaker 1: that that's great to see, and there was some video
Speaker 1: of him really cutting hard and I like to see that.
Speaker 1: Pukinakua is a guy that people wondered, could he possibly
Speaker 1: like sit out of camp because of he you know,
Speaker 1: he's one of the most underpaid players in NFL history
Speaker 1: if looked at through a certain lens. No, he's been
Speaker 1: out there, and you got to think the off season
Speaker 1: that he had and what happened late last season off
Speaker 1: the field is impacting that stance. Let's listen to pokin
Speaker 1: Akua meeting with the media.
Speaker 8: There have been things that obviously have happened this offseason
Speaker 8: that haven't been the truest reflection of the person I
Speaker 8: feel like I am and how my mother raised me.
Speaker 8: And there's definitely been conversations with her to to apologize,
Speaker 8: but also for her to say that she supports me.
Speaker 8: And also my brothers are are I think my biggest
Speaker 8: critics as well, So I'm like there there were some
Speaker 8: some intense conversations, but loving conversations.
Speaker 2: In order to see improvement, let's address the thing.
Speaker 4: I don't think you need to single out family members,
Speaker 4: especially your mother, when you're trying to talk about behavior
Speaker 4: that you would like to change and you were committed
Speaker 4: to changing, then we could highlight the things that led
Speaker 4: to those particular things, like if somebody has been kicked
Speaker 4: off of Twitch twice for anti semitism and then you
Speaker 4: go on their stream, I don't even know what you
Speaker 4: call those things. I'm old and out of touch and
Speaker 4: they ask you to do something jokingly, partly insulting everybody
Speaker 4: else's intelligence but also yours. At a certain point, you
Speaker 4: have to grow up and you have to acknowledge the
Speaker 4: thing and not talk about how you're the type of person,
Speaker 4: because we know what you're the type of person, or
Speaker 4: you're a person who's done these things. So say specifically
Speaker 4: what you were not going to do and why you're
Speaker 4: not going to do it. I think that would go
Speaker 4: a long way for me. I'm not sure how the
Speaker 4: RAMS would prefer he approached this. Maybe they would like
Speaker 4: to not talk about the thing. I don't know, But
Speaker 4: if it were me, let's talk about the thing and
Speaker 4: why you're not going to.
Speaker 2: Do it anymore.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say, I would say that my unders
Speaker 6: standing as internally they are talking about the thing and
Speaker 6: the many things I would say.
Speaker 1: Because a civil suit, yeah, a lady who accused him
Speaker 1: of bite marks and assault, all that is happening as well.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I'm going to do the annoying reporter thing
Speaker 6: where I cite my own work. Sorry, but at the
Speaker 6: out of league out of league meetings, I did a
Speaker 6: lot of digging on this situation and what the potential
Speaker 6: fallout was going to be, and the real, very real
Speaker 6: concern from the team at the time about these issues,
Speaker 6: wanting to be encouraging for him to get help.
Speaker 3: And then also.
Speaker 6: Maybe the outside looks like the duck on the top
Speaker 6: of the surface of the water, but on the inside,
Speaker 6: very real steps being taken to address these sorts of
Speaker 6: off the field issues that he's had that he's gotten
Speaker 6: himself into, frankly, and so for me, there's all this
Speaker 6: stuff coming out like, oh, he reported to camp. There
Speaker 6: was a reporter there this week at RAMS who was
Speaker 6: asking Sean McVay, you know, does it say he's a
Speaker 6: good teammate that he's at camp right now? And that's
Speaker 6: my whole stance on the entire thing is he knows
Speaker 6: it's the expectation that he's there, and he he he
Speaker 6: also has internal and like values that it is the
Speaker 6: expectation that he is there. This contract situation, it's coming
Speaker 6: up in the news again, but again out of league meetings.
Speaker 6: I have a story in the Athletic where among the
Speaker 6: things that are discussed in it is how the Rams
Speaker 6: really need to see off the field improvement from him
Speaker 6: and genuine development as a person, like as an adult
Speaker 6: and and and as a father of a kid at
Speaker 6: before you know, before they start discussing these things, something
Speaker 6: that he's very aware of and and also bought into,
Speaker 6: which is why he's there. And so that's the thing
Speaker 6: that's not being talked about here as much that I
Speaker 6: think should is is that there's a mutual understanding here
Speaker 6: and then this is a situation where the Rams, you
Speaker 6: know they never franchise tag players for example, Well when
Speaker 6: if they're not convinced or if they're not sure that
Speaker 6: this is a situation where he's taking true positive steps
Speaker 6: forward that they are looking at internally, that's something that
Speaker 6: probably will be in discussion. You know, this is a
Speaker 6: team that never does in early extensions anyway until as
Speaker 6: late as possible in training camp. So to me, the
Speaker 6: timeline really starts at the end of this training camp
Speaker 6: and goes all the way into next year and into
Speaker 6: next training camp. That is my opinion of what the
Speaker 6: timeline is. I hope everybody is safe. I hope everybody
Speaker 6: treats each other correctly and with respect, and that this
Speaker 6: situation is something that you know, he looks back on
Speaker 6: and is like, really glad I learned from all of.
Speaker 1: That, right, And it's ultimately leverage, which is it's hard
Speaker 1: to think about it in contract real terms, but they're
Speaker 1: using it as leverage. And like, look, teams will always
Speaker 1: look past. There's a slide and scale of NFL justice.
Speaker 1: That's how I see it. Look Alec Jackson is on
Speaker 1: this team, He's facing out allegations as well like a
Speaker 1: and so there's some sliding scale of Puka just you know,
Speaker 1: keeping his nose clean in their mind and showing like
Speaker 1: maturity and how he plays, and then he'll be a
Speaker 1: RAM for a long time. If not, he won't be.
Speaker 1: The Alvin Kamara situation has been odd this offseason because
Speaker 1: it felt like at times the media, specifically Jeff Duncan
Speaker 1: of the New Orleans Times, picky un was trying to
Speaker 1: push him off the team. He had a very direct,
Speaker 1: you know column saying like it's time for Alvin Kamara
Speaker 1: to go. You don't have to put you know, too
Speaker 1: many dots together and connect them to see like there
Speaker 1: were some things in there that felt like it was
Speaker 1: coming from the front office, maybe Mickey Loomis who had
Speaker 1: been there for a long time, like Jeff Duncan, who knows.
Speaker 1: And this is why it's a little inside baseball. But
Speaker 1: I found this exchange between Duncan and Alvin Kamara on
Speaker 1: his first day back at training camp just delicious.
Speaker 2: Well said to motivated his sall om, there.
Speaker 3: Was that accurate or is he.
Speaker 1: Just no answer not for you?
Speaker 2: Well look at it, Tron said, you were motivated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, and me and Sarn and Mark have private conversations.
Speaker 1: I'm motivated every year. I mean, he also had some
Speaker 1: public conversations on toront Armstead's podcast, which I think they
Speaker 1: were referring to, So in fairness, that was out there.
Speaker 1: I wish, you know, if everyone can see that that
Speaker 1: already Saints fans are using the look on Alvin Kamara's
Speaker 1: dismissive face as a meme and uh, and I loved it.
Speaker 1: This This guy knew, this guy knew that Duncan was
Speaker 1: trying to get him fired. And I think, ultimately, if
Speaker 1: I had to guess, like someone might have stepped in
Speaker 1: there and stopped it because he took a big pay
Speaker 1: cut to stay. But he's still making making good money.
Speaker 1: And it's a better world when Alvin Kamara is on
Speaker 1: the scene.
Speaker 4: Still, Yeah, he he is uh New Orleans Saints and
Speaker 4: a lot of capacities, and there's a real identity for
Speaker 4: Alvin Kamara and the fan base. And I think when
Speaker 4: you've covered a team as long as as Jeff Duncan
Speaker 4: has and kind of stepped out out, you've you've run
Speaker 4: a foul of a few players. I believe there was
Speaker 4: a Michael Thomas tweet, you know, where he said some
Speaker 4: things about Jeff Duncan.
Speaker 3: Well he something about gardening, right, yeah, okay.
Speaker 4: He's he referred him, uh you know, said that he
Speaker 4: needed to do things for for clicks, which I guess,
Speaker 4: like that's what we all do, right, we all you know,
Speaker 4: say things in hopes of uh gaining intention.
Speaker 1: What do you think about this headline from Pro Football
Speaker 1: Talk on Wednesday? Williams, all Right, Alvin Kamara doesn't have
Speaker 1: a chip on his shoulder, but he is motivated.
Speaker 4: Well, now I have several questions, right, Well.
Speaker 1: Part of the Yeah, there was a longer back and forth.
Speaker 1: Apparently that was a little awkward. He said he would,
Speaker 1: but he said he's motivated every year said no chip,
Speaker 1: no chips, and thus here directly asked a chip. No
Speaker 1: pissed Maybe so he's pissed not a chip. Described the
Speaker 1: differences between being pissed and having the chain.
Speaker 4: Well, in my understanding of the chip, the chip is
Speaker 4: being pissed but also making you try harder.
Speaker 2: I believe what Alma Kamara is saying. He always tries hard.
Speaker 4: He's on team KLAYVI, so he doesn't necessarily have a
Speaker 4: chip on his shoulder. He remembers the slights and wrongs
Speaker 4: perhaps from his perspective, but that doesn't augment the way
Speaker 4: he plays football. But if given an opportunity to say
Speaker 4: I don't necessarily like this particular person, he will take
Speaker 4: that opportunity.
Speaker 1: Shout out to to everyone involved there and shout out
Speaker 1: to Taysom Hill, by the way, who said I was
Speaker 1: gonna end the show with this, but he said bye
Speaker 1: to the Saints. Uh oh, we kind of knew that
Speaker 1: it was likely his career was over with the Saints.
Speaker 1: He is not closing the door, it sounded like on
Speaker 1: what was next in his career. So he indicated maybe
Speaker 1: he still wants to try to play NFL football, and
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's going to happen to him,
Speaker 1: but he did say it's not gonna happen with the
Speaker 1: Saints and said good by. And there was a great
Speaker 1: vo read by Drew Brees of just like what a
Speaker 1: like team legend Taysom Hill is? How about this for
Speaker 1: a career twenty five hundred rushing yards, almost twenty five
Speaker 1: hundred passing yards, a thousand receiving yards, and then almost
Speaker 1: five hundred return yards plus fifty seven touchdowns. Really over
Speaker 1: in indexing with the touchdowns, that's a lot of touchdowns.
Speaker 1: A one of one, Taysom Hill. We enjoyed you with
Speaker 1: the Saints.
Speaker 2: Wish it was fifty six.
Speaker 4: Al Kamara would have had the record on that one
Speaker 4: holiday night, but for some reason, Seo Payton cave Taysom Hill.
Speaker 1: Was that it Well, he had forty five rushing and
Speaker 1: receiving touchdowns and twelve passing touchdowns. I was, I was
Speaker 1: combining them all. I don't even know, but so long
Speaker 1: to Taysom Hill. How about Garrett Wilson talking about that
Speaker 1: this year with Gino Smith, that quarterback, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: spitting is my.
Speaker 9: Fifth year, and you know, I can't believe it, but
Speaker 9: like I just like I just said, man, it's gonna
Speaker 9: I have a feeling just it's gonna be special year.
Speaker 1: You get just the f year.
Speaker 9: I'm excited to get another opportunity to do what I've
Speaker 9: always dreamed of and you know, just play some meaning
Speaker 9: for football into the winner and you know, we got
Speaker 9: a special opportunity this year. Man, I'm excited for my
Speaker 9: fifth year. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: How's that making you feel? Jordan? About the passage of
Speaker 1: time that Garret Wilson is in his fifth year and
Speaker 1: so much optimism.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, probably not as old as it makes
Speaker 3: you feel. Greg.
Speaker 1: So I mean, either way, his career to now has
Speaker 1: has made the same. You know, it's still five years.
Speaker 3: I love.
Speaker 1: I feel like your age five years is actually like
Speaker 1: a bigger deal, you know, because it's a bigger percentage
Speaker 1: of your life. You know, you were you were a
Speaker 1: lot different five years ago. I think of where you were,
Speaker 1: so I know you were in your twenties, it was
Speaker 1: before it.
Speaker 6: Was before I hit the the Greg rosenfalt Thal development program.
Speaker 6: It really really stoked about all of that. Yeah, I
Speaker 6: like his optimism he year over year. I like the optimism.
Speaker 6: I hope it is real. I hope for him that
Speaker 6: it is real. I hope for Jets fans that it
Speaker 6: is final real. You know, kind of a bumpy off
Speaker 6: season in terms of with Gino Smith and and just
Speaker 6: the team in general and kind of wondering what they're
Speaker 6: going to be. And so I think that when you
Speaker 6: come into camp and he just starts throwing it around
Speaker 6: and Garrett Wilson's feeling like a big part of progress,
Speaker 6: That's really what I think gives people hope. This time
Speaker 6: of year is feeling like there's gonna be progress.
Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn was saying, like how much he learned from
Speaker 1: last year? Like what, well, what did you learn? You know?
Speaker 2: In terms of me?
Speaker 1: He's like, well, I'm keeping that to myself. You know,
Speaker 1: We're come on, Aaron Glen. David Bailey supposedly just wrecking
Speaker 1: shop at practice, sack after sex. That's awesome, Although David
Speaker 1: Bailey and non padded practice feels unfair like he would
Speaker 1: be pretty high on the list of draft picks in
Speaker 1: the entire NFL to win without pass especially.
Speaker 4: Because he wears nothing on his arms anyway, So it's
Speaker 4: like the less that there's on, like David Bailey gets easy.
Speaker 1: True, I just do that, Garrett Wilson in because I like,
Speaker 1: I like the beginning of camp optimism, even for the
Speaker 1: teams that that don't have a lot.
Speaker 6: Can I just though, and don't give don't knock Karon
Speaker 6: Glenn for not sharing, because what happens in week four
Speaker 6: If he says I really learned, you know, I really
Speaker 6: studied timeouts and how to call them better and manage
Speaker 6: the game better, and then Game four, some disaster happens
Speaker 6: that's maybe out of his control.
Speaker 3: Maybe in his control.
Speaker 6: Every headline from that media out from all the media
Speaker 6: outlet's up there is Aaron Glenn said he did this,
Speaker 6: but he's wrong, is you know? So don's for being
Speaker 6: vague or at least not as specific as maybe Greg
Speaker 6: rosenhought once.
Speaker 1: It's good to just be honest. He's going to get
Speaker 1: fired anyways. You'll feel better about yourself.
Speaker 4: That's the major league team, and now there's going to
Speaker 4: be picture Greg Rosenthal's some swim trunks in the locker room.
Speaker 3: Chip Watch.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm rooting for the Jets with Gino there.
Speaker 1: Let's listen to Max Crosby, who we mentioned was specifically
Speaker 1: brought up by NFL Networks Jane Slater to Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: as a potential trade target. Jerry Jones saying like, hey,
Speaker 1: we didn't give up on the Max Crosby trade. We
Speaker 1: just didn't get him. Now he's here at Radios team.
Speaker 10: It's a blessing.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 10: I love this game, and you know I heard all
Speaker 10: the noise and all those things, but you know everyone knows,
Speaker 10: like my backs against the wall, that's that's when I'm
Speaker 10: at my best. I love the pressure. That's what I
Speaker 10: live and thrive on. So it just added ated points
Speaker 10: and gives me a little bit more reason to go
Speaker 10: out there and we'll pass.
Speaker 6: Here's where I would appreciate more specificity. I would really
Speaker 6: like to know what it was that he was tracking, truly,
Speaker 6: I'm not being glib here, Like, I really want to
Speaker 6: know what was it that bothered you that. I always
Speaker 6: want to know that when when players say I heard
Speaker 6: the noise, I don't want them to necessarily like, you know,
Speaker 6: if they if it's an aggregation or a fake account
Speaker 6: or whatever. I don't want to try into those waters.
Speaker 6: But in terms of like what was it that bothered you,
Speaker 6: your actual knee injury that you have, or what Like
Speaker 6: this team, I think we you know, I know on
Speaker 6: this show we've talked about being a little bit higher
Speaker 6: on them than maybe consensus, but we're only looking for
Speaker 6: progress here, right, So that's what I'm just I'm just
Speaker 6: curious about that.
Speaker 3: I just want to know.
Speaker 6: And I think that one of my most favorite things
Speaker 6: to do is when elite players do take things and
Speaker 6: internalize them and turn them into like wrecking people on
Speaker 6: the field. So I'm looking forward to seeing Max Crosby
Speaker 6: do that. I just here's the way I want more specificity.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we just at least all from Alba Kamara didn't
Speaker 4: even have to say it, oh, but he directed exactly.
Speaker 1: He was like, he's part of chip Watch right now.
Speaker 2: Mexican.
Speaker 1: What do you think of not wearing a shirt for
Speaker 1: your press conference? Wearing art tattoo?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I thought I examined Max Crosby's tattoos and I squared
Speaker 4: that with what I heard Jerry Jones say earlier this week,
Speaker 4: and it makes me feel like Max Crosby is a Dallas.
Speaker 2: Cowboy, Like he has t X down there is he
Speaker 2: got Texas there. You know, he's got Michael and Kobe
Speaker 2: the Muhammad Ali thing.
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought that was Klay Thompson for a second.
Speaker 1: I was like, I have Klay Thompson. Yeah, you're right,
Speaker 1: I think that's Kobe.
Speaker 4: That would be wow, questions what a range.
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, as as iconic as Kobe is, if
Speaker 1: you were a Warriors fan, uh you know, four time champion,
Speaker 1: Klay Thompson wouldn't be that.
Speaker 6: But he's probably remove with him fumbling Meg the Stallion
Speaker 6: the way he did.
Speaker 1: Hey, Wow, she's on top of pop culture.
Speaker 3: Took a long PTO, but yeah, I just are you.
Speaker 1: Doing with fellow kids that I mean see ages. It's
Speaker 1: more of a how you are.
Speaker 6: Don't don't even act like you've never just you know,
Speaker 6: sort of observed, just like the way never clicked on
Speaker 6: a video.
Speaker 1: Oh, I've been tracking it. I'm a Megan fan, but
Speaker 1: just it was somehow the way that you said it
Speaker 1: that it just didn't feel right. Giovanni Manu is a
Speaker 1: man I've tracked for a while who's a tackle on
Speaker 1: the Lions, partly because they gave up multiple picks, I
Speaker 1: think like multiple thirds to get them in a draft
Speaker 1: where at that point Brad Holmes had done no wrong
Speaker 1: and I remember at the time and Manu had like
Speaker 1: barely played football. Wasn't either guy from Canada, And it's like, Wow,
Speaker 1: they're really feeling themselves giving up multiple picks for this guy. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: his career has not gone that well. They haven't trusted
Speaker 1: him to play at all, and now he's he suffered
Speaker 1: an injury that's going to keep him ot at least
Speaker 1: three months. They're already thin at that position and he
Speaker 1: was going to be, you know, one of their tackles.
Speaker 1: So that's unfortunate. Injury news also unfortunate. Chris brazl I
Speaker 1: mentioned previously he could be out up to eight weeks
Speaker 1: with this knee injury. There was a follow up report
Speaker 1: about the reserve Panthers receiver was competing to be their
Speaker 1: number three guy and as a deep threat for Bryce
Speaker 1: Young that he is now going to be out for
Speaker 1: the season. So that is really disappointing. Just every day
Speaker 1: there's a new bad item of injury news for the Panthers,
Speaker 1: and that update is unfortunate, But to your point earlier,
Speaker 1: Patrick Glad, they're like taking care of him and thinking
Speaker 1: long term. And then other good news in terms of injuries.
Speaker 1: Chamar Stewart, the Bengals defensive lineman who had a grotesque
Speaker 1: knee injury on the first day of training camp, literally
Speaker 1: the first team rep of training camp, and it looked
Speaker 1: like one of those that would knock you out for
Speaker 1: the season, is going to be out for several weeks,
Speaker 1: but it's a hyper extended knee and they do expect
Speaker 1: him to return to the team, maybe even in time
Speaker 1: for the season to start. So relatively good news, although
Speaker 1: obviously not good when when you're getting injured at all.
Speaker 1: Let's wrap the show here with Josh Allen talking about
Speaker 1: those Nickel City uniforms. I believe they're calling him. He
Speaker 1: he's heard, He's heard, y'all.
Speaker 11: And stop hating on the jerseys, guys. I don't know
Speaker 11: if you guys are hating.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't see anything.
Speaker 11: But they're they're they're great. I honestly like speaking of
Speaker 11: new right, it's a new look.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 11: I understand that, but in we gotta we gotta be
Speaker 11: new and these jerseys kind of are symbolic of that,
Speaker 11: and I'm excited to wear them. I really We had
Speaker 11: a lot of people that put in a lot of
Speaker 11: a lot of hard work for these jerseys, and it
Speaker 11: just it symbolizes a lot of newness and that I
Speaker 11: am excited about.
Speaker 1: Do you think he is being a good company man
Speaker 1: or that is his That's how he feels, I.
Speaker 4: Think specifically, and that's why he worded it about the
Speaker 4: jerseys because the jerseys are easily defendable. The helmet has
Speaker 4: significant problems. I'm not a fashion guy. The helmet is
Speaker 4: uncomfortable and it kind of cheapens the whole Mmmm. It
Speaker 4: looks like from the back it actually looks like a
Speaker 4: Power Rangers helmet, which.
Speaker 1: Is a look at something Nickel City.
Speaker 6: Josh Allen Berner account confirmed. I don't see anything, though.
Speaker 1: The look on his face, he really felt like and
Speaker 1: I appreciate this about him. It's not like anyone told
Speaker 1: him to be a good company man. And I'm sure
Speaker 1: the idea of the newness, new stadium, new coach. Like,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of negativity abround the bills for such
Speaker 1: a successful team. They're in the good old days. Enjoy it,
Speaker 1: Eric Roberts, if you can even you know, pay attention
Speaker 1: as you're like running back and forth. Eric Roberts, by
Speaker 1: the way, this.
Speaker 3: Week, oh my god, I'm mesmeriz.
Speaker 1: He's doing graphics, he's running over to the videos, he's
Speaker 1: dropping sound of it. He's literally running around the studio.
Speaker 1: Eric Roberts, MVP this week. Only this week though in
Speaker 1: every next week. But well, we're just getting used to
Speaker 1: this new world we're in and like training camp is starting,
Speaker 1: so you've got even more to do. But there's a
Speaker 1: lot of negativity, and I felt like, maybe that's more
Speaker 1: what he's he's getting at, and I appreciate that. To me,
Speaker 1: that is leadership. I appreciate that.
Speaker 12: Stop with you got a Ferrari in the garage. Why
Speaker 12: are we painting at these colors? It's all white uniform
Speaker 12: the Rivalry ones last year. Yeah, the Nickel City. Gray
Speaker 12: put it in red. What are we doing? He's gonna
Speaker 12: be on national TV to be you in this new
Speaker 12: Haimark Stadium the second week of the stadium.
Speaker 1: Why are we going to be I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: They're not going to throw them in red. We got red?
Speaker 1: What are we doing? The fans want red there. They're
Speaker 1: regular uniforms. You're right, are amazing. Their throwbacks are amazing.
Speaker 1: So stop stop it with this stuff.
Speaker 3: Can you make that sound one more time?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 12: That's the Jordan texted me like I need a take
Speaker 12: on the new jerseys and I sent the bar form moji.
Speaker 12: That's the sound associated with the emoji I sent you, Jordan.
Speaker 12: Come on, that was a pair of Site Ferrari. You're
Speaker 12: painting it poop. Gray Ferrari Graphics.
Speaker 1: Editing sound drops in the video and the sound effects
Speaker 1: guy and an on air talent, Eric Roberts. This was
Speaker 1: a great week, although we're not quite done yet. Keep
Speaker 1: an eye on then that's going to be dropping in
Speaker 1: your feet a little later. But for the regular programming,
Speaker 1: this was it this week. And yes, I think we're
Speaker 1: gonna call this campus just just like the news. So
Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys joining me for this show. I
Speaker 1: want everyone listening to join us on Sunday. Eric has
Speaker 1: mixed feelings, but I want to go live five pm
Speaker 1: Pacific because I want to do it every Sunday. Nick
Speaker 1: shook an eye recapping all the camp news. Let's let's
Speaker 1: create some fun, Let's create some conversation. Join me five
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