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Speaker 2: gonna start with a former player, a guy that everyone knows,
Speaker 2: a Hall of famer out there with a guy that
Speaker 2: we play with with on New England. About two years
Speaker 2: for you, two years for me, a quarter season for myself,
Speaker 2: my rookie year in a quarter for me. But everyone
Speaker 2: knows who he is, Randy Freakin' Moss. Please pull the
Speaker 2: picture out. Randy Moss was an absolute dominant force on
Speaker 2: the football field. I didn't want to put him in
Speaker 2: the category right away. I didn't want to describe the category.
Speaker 2: But the guy had personality. Everyone loves him to this day.
Speaker 2: He's a great TV. He's on TV TV analyst somehow
Speaker 2: awesome on TV. He's mossing people still to this day.
Speaker 2: You got what his segment? You got must and you
Speaker 2: know who this is?
Speaker 1: Rob You know the shots from No, it's a shot
Speaker 1: from This shot is from when he was leaving the
Speaker 1: players parking lot, I believe, I think on a Tuesday
Speaker 1: after he got fined for mooning Green Bay. Remember he
Speaker 1: got fined for moving Green Bay. And this is like
Speaker 1: right immediately after when some reporter came up to him said, Raindy,
Speaker 1: what do you think about game fining. He says, straight cash, homie.
Speaker 1: That's what Randy is. And that quote is still used
Speaker 1: to this day. Great cash homie.
Speaker 2: Great cash homie. Whenever I pay anyone in cash, I
Speaker 2: always say straight cash homeie. Oh, every single time. That's
Speaker 2: going to live on forever.
Speaker 1: How many years ago is that? That was a long
Speaker 1: time ago? Twenty No, it wasn't twenty How I was
Speaker 1: in high school man when that happened. He was on
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings, right hey, he was in the Vikings
Speaker 1: at that time, So that was like what five maybe five?
Speaker 1: I think you need to start this twenty years ago?
Speaker 1: Did we start the top of the clock. Now, Rob's
Speaker 1: got a little research that he's done. Now, Rob, how
Speaker 1: did you get this research?
Speaker 2: I just typed in the player's name on co pilot
Speaker 2: and uh what type of you know, football player they
Speaker 2: are or person they are? And it just popped up,
Speaker 2: and you know, you gotta work smarter, not harder, you
Speaker 2: gotta work.
Speaker 1: What it's all about it is. So let's let's what
Speaker 1: is what did a co pilots say?
Speaker 2: This will also help.
Speaker 1: Out my reading skills?
Speaker 2: See dudes on dudes, I mean, we're not the smartest dudes.
Speaker 2: Julian No, but we're also not the biggest idiots.
Speaker 1: I know, we have.
Speaker 2: Common sense and we're here, you know, doing this show
Speaker 2: as well to help us out in life as well.
Speaker 1: I would say we're idiots. I would say we're idiots.
Speaker 1: We're not dumb. Yes, yes, we are idiots in a
Speaker 1: good way though, ye best way. We're not like IQ
Speaker 1: gonna like knock you off the charts. But you know,
Speaker 1: like we're also not going to spend you know, like
Speaker 1: all your money. If you have like two dollars, you're
Speaker 1: going to spend fifty. That's like coming said, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: there you go.
Speaker 2: You hit it right on the nose. And are reading
Speaker 2: skills I want to say.
Speaker 1: Are you know? NOA skills are terrible everyone out there.
Speaker 2: So this is gonna help my reading skills. It's going
Speaker 2: to help my creativity doing this show as well. And
Speaker 2: that's why I wanted to do it. I feel like
Speaker 2: it's going to help us out on Fox, you know,
Speaker 2: just being able to talk.
Speaker 1: So we're building muscles, and we're also in the media
Speaker 1: because we're going to use their AI. Let's go. So
Speaker 1: here we go.
Speaker 2: We got we got Randy Moss, right, Yeah, Randy Moss.
Speaker 1: What is muss?
Speaker 2: Randy Moss was a dynamic and explosive wide receiver known
Speaker 2: for his exceptional speed, leaping ability, and playmaking skills. His
Speaker 2: deep threat capability made him a constant challenge for defenders,
Speaker 2: as he could stretch the field and make spectacular catches.
Speaker 2: Moss was renowned, renowned, right renowned for his ability to
Speaker 2: make acrobatic catches and score touchdowns, earning him earning him
Speaker 2: a reputation as one of the most talented and dangerous
Speaker 2: receivers in the NFL. Over his career, he was selected
Speaker 2: to multiple Pro Bowls and was a key figure in
Speaker 2: the two thousand and seven New England Patriots record setting off.
Speaker 1: He was he was start the clock. Start the clock.
Speaker 2: We got ten minutes which each player that we will
Speaker 2: be talking about.
Speaker 1: First of them. That's pretty damn good by co pilot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, co pilot the money and Rob.
Speaker 1: I think he knocked it out the park.
Speaker 2: I was a co pilot reading that, I think you
Speaker 2: were the actual pilot.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: I was that actual pilot. No co pilot, you were.
Speaker 2: You were there, but you weren't there.
Speaker 1: I was co piloting by just sitting there. Were the
Speaker 1: passenger I was a passenger, Yes you were. I was
Speaker 1: a passenger. But who know who was the ride? It
Speaker 1: was freaking good. It was freaky yeah, which was also
Speaker 1: Randy's nickname. It was it was the freak. Randy went
Speaker 1: to Would you go? You went to Marshall? There's so
Speaker 1: many crazy stories about he committed to Florida State, then
Speaker 1: he went to Notre Dame. Did you ever hear those.
Speaker 2: I never heard any of those stories. But he ended
Speaker 2: up at Marshall University. Where is Marshall anyways.
Speaker 1: West Virginia. It's in West Virginia. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And you always from Rand, West Virginia, like Randy Moss
Speaker 2: is from Rand, West Virginia.
Speaker 1: He used to say that all the time in practice.
Speaker 1: Hey Rand you Rand? You remember you would always say
Speaker 1: that like him, and like who else was from there?
Speaker 1: White chocolate was from there? It was white chocolate. I
Speaker 1: eat Who's white chocolate? Jason? Yeah, teammates, teammates in high school? Dude.
Speaker 1: He always loves to fish too. He That was the
Speaker 1: one thing you always knew about Moss in the off season.
Speaker 1: You were never he was like a farm boy. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he loved outdoors. You love fishing. Oh you know, I
Speaker 1: was traumatized at a young age. My brother made me
Speaker 1: hold like two catfish when I was like six years old,
Speaker 1: and he told me they could sting you and they
Speaker 1: had big old tentacles, and the fucking traumatized me. So
Speaker 1: not a big fisher. I was like the kid wakeboarding.
Speaker 1: My brother was like the fisher you fish. Nah.
Speaker 2: I always got seasick every time we took that boat out, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, and they're like a mile off of shore.
Speaker 2: I was always throwing up and like really dizzy. So
Speaker 2: I never became a big fisherman. I mean I had
Speaker 2: a pond behind my house growing up, so I get
Speaker 2: like those sunny fish like that was cool, but never
Speaker 2: really a big fisherman. I eat fish, so I like
Speaker 2: favor fish black and salmon. Black and salmon, yeah, with
Speaker 2: some good spices on it. I like a hall of it,
Speaker 2: nice light fish.
Speaker 1: Yeah. All right. Back to Randy. Back to Randy what
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame?
Speaker 2: What year was that he went to the Hall of
Speaker 2: Fame Football Hall of Fame? That is was like twenty eighteen,
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, it was.
Speaker 1: We won a Super Bowl. He was a twenty first
Speaker 1: overall pick and he had a lot of the there's
Speaker 1: a lot of like turbulence in his early career, you know,
Speaker 1: in college and stuff which I always thought made Randy,
Speaker 1: you know, misunderstood. You know he kind of what would
Speaker 1: you say when he was in the locker room, Like
Speaker 1: he was always a very caring dude, but he always
Speaker 1: had his guard up. He always had his guard up.
Speaker 1: But like on the low, he would always give you love.
Speaker 1: Like for me when I was I was a rookie receiver.
Speaker 1: I used to have to go out and buy all
Speaker 1: the receivers like lunch whenever we would have a way trips.
Speaker 1: Remember before the travel, the rookie goes and grabs you know,
Speaker 1: something from Bar Louie, or you go somewhere you know
Speaker 1: Jimmy Jones or something, and you get the order. And
Speaker 1: Randy would always make me do it. But I was
Speaker 1: a seventh rounder, so I wasn't I wasn't paid by
Speaker 1: any means, and guys were giving you crazy orders. Randy
Speaker 1: would always throw me like three four hundred bucks. He'd
Speaker 1: pay for it, make me go get it. So like
Speaker 1: he was always he was just always quite like he
Speaker 1: would kind of get on me in front of people.
Speaker 1: But then when there was no one around, he'd always
Speaker 1: loved me up and like, you know, like he I
Speaker 1: think he was just putting that on there to make me,
Speaker 1: you know, make me accountable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for the for the you know quarter career, you
Speaker 2: know quarter year I played with Randy. I thought he
Speaker 2: was a great teammate man, And like you said, I
Speaker 2: feel like he was misunderstood in the public eye a
Speaker 2: little bit. He didn't really care about you know, the
Speaker 2: glam and all that. He like, he just he just
Speaker 2: rubbed it off his shoulders like like it was nothing,
Speaker 2: like it was water man. But he cared about being
Speaker 2: a good guy and he never thought he was too
Speaker 2: big for anyone else. I mean, Randy was the best
Speaker 2: wide receiver in the game at the time, maybe of
Speaker 2: all time, and he cared about, you know, being relatable
Speaker 2: to the young bucks. He did he made me feel
Speaker 2: very warm and welcome. What do you do to the
Speaker 2: New England Patriots when I.
Speaker 1: Was What do he did to make you feel warm
Speaker 1: and well?
Speaker 2: So Moss always loved you know, kicking it back having
Speaker 2: a conversation with myself. When I was a rookie, I
Speaker 2: was struggling. I was in the playbook like crazy, He's
Speaker 2: struggling a little bit. But he just loved how I
Speaker 2: played the game and he always imitated me because I
Speaker 2: was big. I was goofy, you know, and he liked
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, you know. And every time I
Speaker 2: had a catch or you know, had a touchdown, I'd
Speaker 2: be like myself, you know, I'd be giggling like this.
Speaker 2: He'd be like, dude, bro, you always giggling. You always
Speaker 2: having a good time, gronk, Like it's coolest shit, man,
Speaker 2: coolest shit.
Speaker 1: How you are man?
Speaker 2: And I'd be like it made me feel warm and
Speaker 2: welcome to be myself on the Patriots. And I'd be
Speaker 2: like I always did that on the field after I
Speaker 2: get up, like I that was just me. I was
Speaker 2: getting hype and Moss was like, man, I like how
Speaker 2: you do this?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: I like like, cool shit, how you do that? Like
Speaker 2: I'm going to do that. After I school a touchdown,
Speaker 2: I was like for real. He's like, yeah, yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: going to do that. So what happened game I think
Speaker 2: game number two Buffalo versus Buffalo. He scored like, you know,
Speaker 2: forty yard er post right down the middle, like you know,
Speaker 2: like Randy Moss does because his fastest wide receiver I
Speaker 2: probably ever seen play the game freakish, you know, stride.
Speaker 1: It looked like he was going slow, look like, but
Speaker 1: he was just always passing people and he was just gliding.
Speaker 2: It was like jet ski on water, like on like
Speaker 2: flat service, just gliding.
Speaker 1: Yes. And it didn't look like.
Speaker 2: He was going seventy no, but he was going seventy
Speaker 2: maybe eighty on water, which is fast.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: So we get to the game. He scores that touchdown
Speaker 2: and he starts doing this like he's being gronking the
Speaker 2: end zone.
Speaker 1: And I'm twenty one years.
Speaker 2: Old and this is Randy Moss, fricking Moss imitating me
Speaker 2: after one of his I thought it was the coolest thing.
Speaker 2: I actually never even shared that story with anyone. I'm
Speaker 2: not even I'm talking like, I never shared that story
Speaker 2: with a friend a family member. It's just kind of
Speaker 2: known within the team, you know, within the team and
Speaker 2: the organization. So that's one of the coolest stories of
Speaker 2: all time. You know about Randy mossa I have personally,
Speaker 2: and he just made me feel welcome to the team,
Speaker 2: and he just made me feel like myself because he
Speaker 2: just loved how I was and how I played the game,
Speaker 2: and it was just a special moment, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: He fucked with dudes that worked hard. He I remember
Speaker 1: on Tuesdays he would come in and do these workouts
Speaker 1: where he would do like side step ups, these like
Speaker 1: uh step ups, quick feet, and so I would jump
Speaker 1: in with him every once in a while and he'd
Speaker 1: do all these medicine ball things where like he'd have
Speaker 1: like one leg on a medicine ball and do like
Speaker 1: a push up, and you know, he was working your core.
Speaker 1: And so I would always I'd always see him do shit,
Speaker 1: and then I would go do it. You know, I
Speaker 1: want to do what everything anything Randy did. But like
Speaker 1: if he saw you working, he never really busted your balls.
Speaker 1: That's kind of got you know. But if you weren't,
Speaker 1: if you were you know, if you were talking and
Speaker 1: you were a guy that wasn't hurt or something like
Speaker 1: any other patriots, any of the patriot like guys, you
Speaker 1: know you're gonna hear shit. You want to know. You
Speaker 1: want to also know why.
Speaker 2: I would say Randy was misunderstood a little bit because
Speaker 2: he was real. Yeah, and when people are real, people
Speaker 2: don't like.
Speaker 1: That man, because like real one can sound like assholey, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: It sounds Assholey, Like, if he didn't want your freaking food,
Speaker 2: he's not going to eat your food like you just
Speaker 2: didn't want it, you know. If he didn't like you,
Speaker 2: he didn't like you, like it's just real shit. And
Speaker 2: then that's what makes people misunderstood.
Speaker 1: I still can't fathom that Thanksgiving game that he had.
Speaker 1: What was the screenshot of of his Well, he had
Speaker 1: three catches, like one hundred and forty six yards, wasn't
Speaker 1: sixty three yards on stream?
Speaker 2: Sixty three yards? Oh and three touchdowns. All his catches
Speaker 2: were over fifty yards. It was when he was with
Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings Thanksgiving Day. He ate the turkey after
Speaker 2: the game as well. Yeah, it was just Moss being Moss. Well,
Speaker 2: Randy was so special that we actually had a play named.
Speaker 1: After him, Moss.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Moss, Hoss, Moss, which is the Moss signal. That
Speaker 2: was the signal because it was all goes. There was
Speaker 2: a go on the left, there was a seam on
Speaker 2: the left, there was a seam on the right. And
Speaker 2: every time Brady did that, I got excited because I
Speaker 2: was always the slack guy going down the field, so Moss.
Speaker 2: Every time I saw that play, I thought of Moss
Speaker 2: and just felt like I had to turn the burners
Speaker 2: on as well.
Speaker 1: Rob, you had how many What was your biggest touchdown season?
Speaker 2: I had seventeen touchdowns in twenty twelve, but eighteen because
Speaker 2: one of them counted as a rush.
Speaker 1: Eighteen touchdowns. He had twenty three touchdowns. How fucking nuts?
Speaker 1: Is freaking nuts.
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's ever going to touch that.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the eighteen I don't think anyone's
Speaker 1: going to touch it. Still will because guys aren't playing
Speaker 1: as many games like they don't play the whole season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's not the reason why. I think
Speaker 2: just because was just so dominant twenty three touchdowns. Because
Speaker 2: when you have twenty three touchdowns, Moss was only one
Speaker 2: who can get away from double coverage and then run
Speaker 2: away from it because he was so fast and freaky.
Speaker 2: Ain't no one ever gonna touch that twenty three touchdown record.
Speaker 2: I mean I was pretty close that one year when
Speaker 2: I had seventeen. And then actually he was at practice
Speaker 2: one of my best training camps of all time when
Speaker 2: we were in West Virginia. Moss came whatever at that
Speaker 2: dump place at Greenboro. It's great for football coaches loved
Speaker 2: it because all you did was focus on football.
Speaker 1: But he can go to the casino though it was
Speaker 1: fucking bullshit. Good thing.
Speaker 2: We would have lost all our money or want a
Speaker 2: lot more money and then had it could have retired
Speaker 2: in training camp. But Moss was there when we were
Speaker 2: facing the Saints in practice and I was dominant.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: This was a year I was on fire, unstoppable. It
Speaker 2: was actually the year we won the Super Bowl versus
Speaker 2: Atlanta when I was unstoppable, and it was just unfortunate
Speaker 2: that I got lit up up the middle of that year.
Speaker 2: But I had like four touchdowns in a row versus
Speaker 2: Saints and seven on seven and Moss was right there,
Speaker 2: and I was like, Boss, I'm coming for you.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: That touchdown record is my go. Gronk, you got it. Boy,
Speaker 2: You're the only one.
Speaker 1: Gronk.
Speaker 2: You the only one that can beat my touchdown record. Gronk,
Speaker 2: you got this, boy. I want to see you do
Speaker 2: I go, Moss, I am gonna do a buddy, I'm
Speaker 2: on coming for twenty three, no problem. I mean, it
Speaker 2: was kind of realization at that time. I was dreaming big,
Speaker 2: but it was just so cool to have Moss right there.
Speaker 2: Talking shit to Randy Moss. I'm gonna beat his touchdown
Speaker 2: record in the middle of practice. Like was one of
Speaker 2: the coolest moments I've ever had in practice at Moss,
Speaker 2: You're the man. And the freakiest catch I've ever seen
Speaker 2: Moss make that I will still remember for I will
Speaker 2: remember for the rest of my life is the Reevius catch.
Speaker 2: It was the second game. It was the second game
Speaker 2: of season. Of the season, that was my first start.
Speaker 2: It was so when he did the invitation of me.
Speaker 2: It was actually the first game of the season. I
Speaker 2: think we played.
Speaker 1: No this was was that. That was I don't think
Speaker 1: you were there yet. No, I was there.
Speaker 2: So we played the We played Cincinnati my very first game.
Speaker 2: Then we went to the Jets. We lost most freakiest
Speaker 2: catch I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: We lost the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we lost the game. Uh, Brady just tossed it
Speaker 2: up there. He let the play developed, no one was open,
Speaker 2: so he tossed it up one on one coverage Moss
Speaker 2: Verus Durell Reeves, the best cornerback in the game. Moss
Speaker 2: put his hand up in the air and just snagged
Speaker 2: it one handed, right in the end zone about three
Speaker 2: yards in. It was freaky because he extended all the way.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like it was like close to his body
Speaker 2: heat made that extension, you know, effs effortless.
Speaker 1: It looked like he barely did it that when he
Speaker 1: was going, He's just like eh.
Speaker 2: And then oh, and then we played the Buffalo Bills
Speaker 2: a third game, and that's when he did the imitation
Speaker 2: imitate Fau imitating me, Oh no, myself, the gronk giggles.
Speaker 2: And then we played the Miami Dolphins the fourth game
Speaker 2: of the season. And then after that game he went there.
Speaker 2: He wasn't there anymore.
Speaker 1: It was sad. It was You want to know something, Jules,
Speaker 1: O remember it, man, I remember it.
Speaker 2: We were we were partying man. When he got traded.
Speaker 2: It was Monday night, and you know us, we were
Speaker 2: young bucks man. We went to Foxwoods the casino, and
Speaker 2: we walked Monday. No, no, it was a Monday. It
Speaker 2: was a Monday night game. So to be able to
Speaker 2: buy weekend, we had I think we had a bye
Speaker 2: week or something because we went to Foxwoods Tuesday night
Speaker 2: because it was industry night at Foxwoods, and you know us,
Speaker 2: we're in the industry of partying at that time.
Speaker 1: We were maniacs. We were maniacs.
Speaker 2: Were this dudes and dudes bad. We're just having the conversation,
Speaker 2: you know, we're just telling our stories, just living up.
Speaker 2: You know, how did you find it in the past?
Speaker 2: And I remember we were together, man, and you were
Speaker 2: you were pretty hungover, I remember, and I was hungover too,
Speaker 2: and we turned on the TV. We didn't know anything
Speaker 2: what was going on, and we turned on the TV
Speaker 2: ESPN and Randy of there it was breaking news, traded
Speaker 2: to the Minnesota Vikings, and literally we were like heartbroken.
Speaker 2: We were hungover and heartbroken. It was probably the worst
Speaker 2: situation you could be in. Yeah, yeah, but we always
Speaker 2: climb out of those holes.
Speaker 1: That was. But uh I talked about talk about the
Speaker 1: Sunday scaries.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was. That was the Tuesday morning scaries right there.
Speaker 1: You wake up, you know, oh fuck, we got to
Speaker 1: practice is gone.
Speaker 2: That was one of the examples of of my early
Speaker 2: times in my career that I was starting to learn
Speaker 2: that the NFL was a business. Oh yeah, because as
Speaker 2: a rookie, you don't know that it's a business. You
Speaker 2: know you're gonna make the team. You think you're playing forever.
Speaker 1: Can't trade Rainy trading Rainey can't trade Randy Moss.
Speaker 2: She's the greatest of all time. And it was really
Speaker 2: cool though, because he did that press conference I think
Speaker 2: the week before, like he wants a new deal. He
Speaker 2: had his headphones around his neck. He kind of he
Speaker 2: kind of went off like the Patriots ain't giving me
Speaker 2: my new contract. And I thought that was really cool
Speaker 2: because that's the Randy Moss I knew, like going off,
Speaker 2: just just being a real dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he knows. And I love that shit.
Speaker 2: I love when players act up man, and I thought
Speaker 2: it was the coolest thing. So it was sad to
Speaker 2: see him go. But it was also sad because that
Speaker 2: was part of the reason I feel like he went.
Speaker 2: You know, Bill Is takes no shit.
Speaker 1: He doesn't. But that's when you're reckon. You realize that
Speaker 1: this is definitely a business. All right.
Speaker 2: So some final thoughts Randy Moss, What kind of dude
Speaker 2: is Randy must then? Yeah, what kind of dude is he?
Speaker 2: I would say?
Speaker 1: So, we have a stud at like athleticism football IQ,
Speaker 1: the pedigree. We have the freak unparalleled physical ability one
Speaker 1: of one pretty much a mutant that sounds pretty close.
Speaker 1: We have a dog who's relentless, motivated, physical and mental toughness.
Speaker 1: We got the whiz dude whose intellect innovative, very clutch,
Speaker 1: and we got to do dude, positive attitude, locker room guy,
Speaker 1: calm cool, collect glue guy. He's like a glue guy.
Speaker 1: Dude's dude.
Speaker 2: And let me tell you, every dude that we're going
Speaker 2: to be talking about hit all of them.
Speaker 1: They hit them.
Speaker 2: All their attributes are all five of them. But we're
Speaker 2: trying to find the one that exemplifies them the most.
Speaker 2: And with Randy Moss, it's easy. I feel like this
Speaker 2: is a no brainer, no brainer, no brainer. It's already
Speaker 2: in his nickname, the freak.
Speaker 1: The freak, I mean he was. I remember he's just
Speaker 1: so fast. He was so he could jump, he he
Speaker 1: he could catch the ball. The intricacies of the game
Speaker 1: where like that were you would try to coach the guys,
Speaker 1: like late hands and stacking the receiver, like those are
Speaker 1: the things that like we would try to coach. He
Speaker 1: just did it naturally. That's like how he like he
Speaker 1: just knew how to judge a ball and high point
Speaker 1: balls like he We literally have segments named after him
Speaker 1: going up and just mossing dudes.
Speaker 2: And the way the ability he had to just leap
Speaker 2: when he was running full speed.
Speaker 1: It's crazy.
Speaker 2: Is what made him so great because he can have
Speaker 2: a defender on him because defenders were just as fast
Speaker 2: as him. Some of them were some of the.
Speaker 1: DB's Heylate all right, Remember he used to challenge Slate
Speaker 1: all the time.
Speaker 2: But every once in a while there there was a
Speaker 2: guy that you know, it was kind of covering, but
Speaker 2: what did he do. He just leaped right over him
Speaker 2: like a frog and made the catch. And that's what
Speaker 2: made him so freaky.
Speaker 1: It's so crazy to think, like you're when you're running
Speaker 1: full speed and you got to track a ball, your
Speaker 1: eyes are bouncing like that's like some of the first
Speaker 1: things you see, like when from your like off season
Speaker 1: training and you jump into like you know, start competing
Speaker 1: against guys, the first thing that you always have to
Speaker 1: dial in is the bouncy eyes. My eyes would bouncing.
Speaker 1: I'm going like a guy to go full speed and
Speaker 1: be able to concentrate and then like effort, see like
Speaker 1: a ballerina, jump off one leg, go back, mass the
Speaker 1: dude over to Like that's that's a freak. He's a freak.
Speaker 2: I remember Jules like you used to always bribe Moss
Speaker 2: would do it. So I'm doing it so like right
Speaker 2: after the games, like when you landed from an away game,
Speaker 2: he will go right to the weight room to get
Speaker 2: his workout in. And you've been Marshall doing it, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna do it. You know, like you copied everything he did,
Speaker 2: hey man, But I don't blame you. Man, he's the
Speaker 2: greatest of all time.
Speaker 1: I would copy him. Tom didn't when it was around
Speaker 1: Copy West Poppy Katlee. Yeah, all right, you loved your dudes.
Speaker 2: You love hanging on your dudes. You because one dude
Speaker 2: you wanted the dude on.
Speaker 1: You become a creature of the dudes you hang around.
Speaker 1: That's the truth, you know, you become a dude of
Speaker 1: the dudes.
Speaker 2: That's why keeps on podcasts, you know, because I've been
Speaker 2: hanging out with you jewels, and you have your podcast.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to part Now it's just dude dribbing
Speaker 1: off on dudes. So we did.
Speaker 2: Randy Moss all right, freak of nature, freak, no doubt.
Speaker 2: He's a freak dude, no question.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go into our next bomb, bomp bomb.
Speaker 2: Sure, we're gonna go for more than ten minutes. We've
Speaker 2: already went for more than ten minutes. Who's our next guest, Tom?
Speaker 2: I mean, oh wow, all right, who's our next guest, Julian.
Speaker 1: Our next guest is Thomas Edward Patrick Brady. Now, let's
Speaker 1: see what AI has what to say about TV two guys.
Speaker 1: I know him pretty well. Let's see if AI knows
Speaker 1: him just as well. All right, started the clock. Let's see.
Speaker 2: Let's see if AI is really living up to the standards.
Speaker 2: Let's see he's everyone's saying, last two, AI, all right,
Speaker 2: Tom Brady is a legendary NFL quarterback. Well, they're already
Speaker 2: wrong because he's not a legendary NFL quarterback. He was
Speaker 2: an NFL legendary quarterback?
Speaker 1: Or is he? Does AI know he's Tom? Ay? I
Speaker 1: know something that we don't know.
Speaker 2: You're right, HEYI is living up to the standards. Dolphin
Speaker 2: Kyle Shannon Hands still wants them with the Niners, even.
Speaker 1: Though maybe AI is up to something. Right now, I.
Speaker 2: See he's a renowned for his record seven Super Bowl
Speaker 2: victories and five Super Bowl MVP Awards. Off the field,
Speaker 2: he is known for his discipline lifestyle.
Speaker 1: Very disciplined. TV twelve method business, venturess, business ventures, a
Speaker 1: lot of business ventures, owns teams, lots of teams, raiders
Speaker 1: potentially coming up soon.
Speaker 2: And philanthropic efforts, a lot.
Speaker 1: Of giving back to the kids, best buddies for a
Speaker 1: long time.
Speaker 2: Yes, and what about the kids he helped become superstars? Yeah,
Speaker 2: he helped us out too, were part of that. That
Speaker 2: doesn't go that's not fullanthropy, but no, that's his biggest
Speaker 2: philanthropy right there. It was definitely okay, helping us kids out.
Speaker 2: He helped his a right, a lot, all right, Oh,
Speaker 2: including his work with the TB twelve Foundation.
Speaker 1: Which you just mentioned and TV twelve Foundation. Brady's leadership,
Speaker 1: He's a leader resilience, guys, fucking resilient and commitment. Come on, Jules,
Speaker 1: is he committed? This guy has committed like no other
Speaker 1: to excellence.
Speaker 2: Have made him an iconic figure?
Speaker 1: Is he iconic? Fucking He's got to order the most
Speaker 1: iconic guy's gotta iconic.
Speaker 2: Figure both in sports and infinity and beyond. Is an
Speaker 2: infinites and beyond. But I added that little bite of
Speaker 2: buzz light year, you know, spectacle aspect into it.
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that, but I can't believe a,
Speaker 1: I didn't one thing that AI didn't get. This guy's
Speaker 1: his compartment. His compartmentalization skill is fucking outrageous. That's what
Speaker 1: if anyone asked me, like what is he could literally
Speaker 1: have so many things going around, going going on in
Speaker 1: his life, but when it was time for work, he
Speaker 1: could blur all that out and think about what that
Speaker 1: workday was and fucking get the most out of that
Speaker 1: workday every day. Which some would say that's like a
Speaker 1: serial killer or some kind of maniac mindset. I would say,
Speaker 1: that's like the greatest of all time. Yes, Jules, that's
Speaker 1: a great point. I actually never thought of that, and
Speaker 1: that's one hundred percent accurate. And that's actually contributes.
Speaker 2: To why he was so great, is that he could
Speaker 2: ignore the noise, whatever is going on out there, whatever
Speaker 2: the situation was better, it didn't matter, and he would Yeah,
Speaker 2: he would use that anyways he was using as fuel.
Speaker 2: It would be diesel fuel, it would be normal, normal fuel,
Speaker 2: would be freaking super fuel, it didn't matter.
Speaker 1: Usually a few freaking gas stations have that fuel fill
Speaker 1: up that engine.
Speaker 2: And he had diesel engine, he had freaking premium engine.
Speaker 2: He had every engine in the book, jet engine, and
Speaker 2: that's what made him so great. And he used that
Speaker 2: fuel and he burned all that fuel too.
Speaker 1: This is probably terrible. There's so many he burned so
Speaker 1: much fuel that he killed literally so much of the
Speaker 1: ozone layer that he's a fucking hazard to our environment
Speaker 1: because that's how much fuel he burns. With the motivation
Speaker 1: and his compartmentalization factors, that's how much fuel he's burning.
Speaker 2: And that and that jet was full go every single time.
Speaker 2: You know, when you get on a plane, you're like,
Speaker 2: this freaking pilot, better drive this plane or fly this
Speaker 2: plane as fast as possible. Well, drive it too freaking
Speaker 2: on the runway to get to the runway to freaking
Speaker 2: take off a sap so fly it and drive it
Speaker 2: as fast as possible. That's this guy.
Speaker 1: And he's got headwinds, so you're actually using more fuel. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and with the fuel never ran out. The guy has
Speaker 1: fucking airplanes that come out while you're flying. Have you
Speaker 1: seen that where they use the fucking piece and while
Speaker 1: they're flying in the air and connecting the limited Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's and that is Alex.
Speaker 3: Alex is the little airplane ale Oh man, he just
Speaker 3: has so much fuel.
Speaker 1: I mean, oh, that was so good. That was so good.
Speaker 1: There they are, look at there's alex Is froewing time up. Wow. Wow.
Speaker 1: And that's something that happen. And that's a love thing
Speaker 1: out Alex because he.
Speaker 2: Gets him going, keeps them going. Man, Well, let's get
Speaker 2: to some accolades. I mean, first he was he was
Speaker 2: picked one sixth round in the two thousand draft. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm sure everyone knows that by now. He's with the
Speaker 2: from two thousand to twenty nineteen, and then with the
Speaker 2: Bucks two thousand to twenty twenty two. And actually I
Speaker 2: just got a quiz on him. How many years did
Speaker 2: he play in the NFL? And it was right before
Speaker 2: I talked to him two weeks ago on Fox, Kurt
Speaker 2: Menfie asked me, we played a little live game. Hey,
Speaker 2: how well do you know your teammate Tom Brady goes?
Speaker 2: How many more years did Tom Brady play in the
Speaker 2: NFL than you? And I played eleven years? And I
Speaker 2: thought Tom Brady played twenty four years. I actually got
Speaker 2: it wrong. He played twenty three years in the NFL.
Speaker 1: So shame on me.
Speaker 2: But it was better to be over on that than
Speaker 2: the hit it right on the nose. But that's how
Speaker 2: many years he played?
Speaker 4: Is that?
Speaker 1: I just know it was so many I couldn't even
Speaker 1: keep track anymore. He played eleven years more years.
Speaker 2: Than he played, eleven years more than you, in twelve
Speaker 2: years more than me. That is fucking I played twelve
Speaker 2: I played eleven years in the NFL, and he played
Speaker 2: more years in the NFL that I put in the NFL.
Speaker 1: He that without me? That makes sense? Yeah, yeah, like
Speaker 1: if you I don't know what that's called, but that's
Speaker 1: a math term.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's called the whole. That's called goat.
Speaker 1: That's fucking goat, goyoat. Yeah, that's called jet fuel. Alex's
Speaker 1: jet fuel. Alex's jet fuel. Yeah. What was the first
Speaker 1: time you met Tom?
Speaker 2: The first time I met Tom was actually what was
Speaker 2: pretty wild when I was at the University of Arizona.
Speaker 2: You know, I was doing my interview. I had a
Speaker 2: couple of touchdowns that game. I was showing off my
Speaker 2: touchdown celebrations, and then the lady interviewing me, she's like,
Speaker 2: who do you see being your quarterback in the NFL,
Speaker 2: And obviously, right on the spot, I go, Tom Brady
Speaker 2: would be the best quarterback to have in the NFL,
Speaker 2: and especially a great fit for me, and that was
Speaker 2: just the answer, you know. And then I did my
Speaker 2: touchdown dances and all that, and then what happens. I
Speaker 2: get drafted to the Patriots and Tom Brady becomes my quarterback.
Speaker 1: In the NFL.
Speaker 2: It was like I manifested it when I was in college.
Speaker 2: I manifested a lot of things. And if you have Tom,
Speaker 2: Tom's probably really big into manifesting his mat He manifested
Speaker 2: all his Super Bowls because right after he won a
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, he would already have a clock counting down
Speaker 2: to the next next. So he was manifesting like crazy.
Speaker 2: You just learned so much knowledge from him, and he's
Speaker 2: done so many things right to be able to get to,
Speaker 2: uh you know, nature of where he is now. It
Speaker 2: wasn't like he just had the athletic ability. He showed up.
Speaker 2: He did everything right and he put the time in
Speaker 2: that you can never argue against him, can't.
Speaker 1: You can't be So let's get let's get back to
Speaker 1: what was I talking about again? I don't know. I
Speaker 1: just got. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I got At the first time I met him, it
Speaker 2: was in the training room. I was getting my ankles
Speaker 2: taped and he walked in, So I was there already
Speaker 2: for the rookie camps, the rookie practices, and he just
Speaker 2: walks up to me. He goes, hey, Rob, I'm Tom Brady,
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh wow, this guy already knows
Speaker 2: my name. I mean, that's also what makes him so
Speaker 2: great as well, is that he already knows all the
Speaker 2: rookies name, all the guys that were drafted, what rounds
Speaker 2: they were drafted in, what type of player they already were,
Speaker 2: because he wants to know, you know, their athletic ability,
Speaker 2: you know what type of guy they are, so he
Speaker 2: can understand them so he can be on the same
Speaker 2: page as events out of them, so he can get
Speaker 2: the best out of them as well, like you said,
Speaker 2: and he could have that connection to help win games,
Speaker 2: so he can be on the same you know, wavelength
Speaker 2: as them. So he already knew my name, came up
Speaker 2: to me, and I just thought it was the coolest thing.
Speaker 1: Man. I just said, hey, man, nice to meet you.
Speaker 1: It was just super quick he left. What did you
Speaker 1: think in your head?
Speaker 2: And Tom Brady knew my name and that was the
Speaker 2: greatest honor to shake his hand while getting my ankles taped.
Speaker 1: And then he goes wins four super Bowls with them.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I had a similar story. Yeah, what was
Speaker 1: it like when you met him? What? What was that story?
Speaker 1: I was going from, Like you said, we were already
Speaker 1: in there. When you're a rookie, you get in there before.
Speaker 1: Back in our day, you get in there before the
Speaker 1: vets reported. And so you'd be there for like three weeks,
Speaker 1: did rookie camp and learning installations of everything. And so
Speaker 1: I had a big book. We all had these books.
Speaker 1: It was like a five inch Remember those old old
Speaker 1: binders before we had iPads. We used to have big
Speaker 1: old binders. I didn't like carrying them around. I left
Speaker 1: mine in my locker when I went home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, even though you were supposed to bring it home
Speaker 2: to study, I was like, I ain't carrying that binder.
Speaker 1: I used to carry it. You did I do? I
Speaker 1: was trying to make you. So I'm over here, getting
Speaker 1: five minutes before the special Teams meeting. It's true, and
Speaker 1: I'm running through and the Vets came in. And I
Speaker 1: saw the vets coming because I saw well in the
Speaker 1: in the cafeteria. Didn't say a word to me. I
Speaker 1: was but I wanted to big, big time A little
Speaker 1: bit had a leather jacket. He looks cool.
Speaker 2: He looks like when you guys big time each other,
Speaker 2: it's entertainment for me. All right back to time though.
Speaker 1: And so I knew they were in but I was
Speaker 1: going to my meeting and he walks through the door,
Speaker 1: you know, the entrance of the locker room from the hall.
Speaker 1: He walks in there and he goes, I like, look
Speaker 1: at him. I drop my book. I'm like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: this dude is taller than I thought. And he goes, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm Tom. I go Jules. He goes, I know we
Speaker 1: have the same agent. Dragon's my agent too, or something
Speaker 1: something like that. And I was like, nice to meet you,
Speaker 1: and you could I felt the same way you felt, like, damn,
Speaker 1: he knew my name. That's fucking crazy. But he knew
Speaker 1: that he knew everyone's name, and he made everyone feel special,
Speaker 1: and that that was part of his leadership skill, you know,
Speaker 1: like what made him such an unbelievable leader, from the
Speaker 1: meal ladies to you know, the people in the equipment room,
Speaker 1: the training staff, Like it didn't matter what was going on,
Speaker 1: how the day went, he was always a pretty cool
Speaker 1: dude to everyone, and everyone was always watching him. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And that's when you're the quarterback
Speaker 1: of the team. Everyone no matter what is going on
Speaker 1: in your life, is watching that person and to see
Speaker 1: how they react to everything, the success, the failure. Your
Speaker 1: eyes go to that guy, you know. And he was
Speaker 1: the perfect guy for us, especially when we were young knuckleheads,
Speaker 1: to look at, like, all right, this is how you
Speaker 1: have to do it. He gave you the example and
Speaker 1: and he was just a fucking.
Speaker 2: He gave us the blueprint on how to become a reliable, talented,
Speaker 2: you know player that you needed to be to help
Speaker 2: the team win games. He gave us the blueprint on
Speaker 2: how to become a star out there on the field.
Speaker 2: He gave us the blueprint on how to make plays,
Speaker 2: how to go out there and have that mindset ready
Speaker 2: to go, and also be mentally and physically ready at
Speaker 2: all times on the practice field and on the game field.
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that. And he didn't just give
Speaker 2: you a blueprint. He showed you the way too.
Speaker 1: Showed you.
Speaker 2: Yes, he showed you, Hey, this is where I want
Speaker 2: you on this route. This is when you need to
Speaker 2: look at me. This is where the ball is going
Speaker 2: to change you. Yes, He trained you to be like that.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, oh, wait, oh you want to take a break.
Speaker 2: Hey man, I'm telling you you're and will let you
Speaker 2: go farther. Let's go four more routes, let's go. You
Speaker 2: got to be able to be on the same page
Speaker 2: as me.
Speaker 1: You got to be right here.
Speaker 2: Be more physical, Be more physical. You're bigger than everyone.
Speaker 2: Run his ass over and turn around and the ball
Speaker 2: will be there, I promise you. And if you don't
Speaker 2: hit that guy, if you're not physical, guess what, the
Speaker 2: ball is not going to come to you. He would
Speaker 2: just lay it out just like that. His leadership was
Speaker 2: just what's that word where it's just brutally honest? Yes,
Speaker 2: brutally honest. And that's what made him so great too.
Speaker 1: So like with him, that's what he always harped to
Speaker 1: gronk with me. I remember in those because a lot
Speaker 1: of times we would get that coaching in the offseason,
Speaker 1: when he would go fly out somewhere we would throw together,
Speaker 1: you know, because there's times where you would do it.
Speaker 1: There was times that I would do it. He would
Speaker 1: always try to get his throes in with his guys,
Speaker 1: and for me, he'd always come up to me and like, hey,
Speaker 1: I need you to be here. I need you to
Speaker 1: be like a boxer. You know you can't. You can't
Speaker 1: be You can't just do what the thing shows you
Speaker 1: on the paper. You have to feel it out. You
Speaker 1: got to set things up with your jab and then
Speaker 1: you use your right. You know, it's like a box.
Speaker 1: You got to be more savvy in your route running.
Speaker 1: That's I remember you saying that. And then he'd always say, like,
Speaker 1: you got to run like a fucking you got to
Speaker 1: be able to run. You got to be able to
Speaker 1: run all day. And like you said, when you were tired,
Speaker 1: we would do those sets of routes. He'd make you
Speaker 1: do three or four extra ones and he would say
Speaker 1: you'd line up and you would you think that the
Speaker 1: drill was done, and he would say, oh, there is
Speaker 1: offsides on a penalty on your teammates, or there was
Speaker 1: a holding call or PI, or we got to redo it.
Speaker 1: And he knew you were dog dead, but he wanted
Speaker 1: to see. He wanted to get everything out of you
Speaker 1: when you were on empty. He wanted to see what
Speaker 1: kind of guy you were, and he wanted to show you.
Speaker 1: That's what he expected in game time.
Speaker 2: And a word that you could have used in there
Speaker 2: as well. That kind of sums it up a little bit,
Speaker 2: as he loved a decisive route, run decisive, decisive. He
Speaker 2: didn't care if the paper said run ten yards and
Speaker 2: run out. He didn't care one bit. He cared about
Speaker 2: being decisive on the practice field and taking that decisiveness
Speaker 2: and bringing it to the game field.
Speaker 1: He goes, Hey, if you're going to run.
Speaker 2: Twelve yards even though it's a ten yard route, or
Speaker 2: if you're gonna run eight yards and it's gonna be
Speaker 2: a little short, just be decisive. Let me know when
Speaker 2: you're gonna break out. Let me know when you're gonna
Speaker 2: break down, so I can get that ball out and
Speaker 2: I can read you. I don't need you to have
Speaker 2: fifteen steps where you're slow. I think you're going to
Speaker 2: go to the left and then you go to the
Speaker 2: right side. No, be decisive, and if you're decisive, I
Speaker 2: will find you and that ball will be out and.
Speaker 1: It will be right on point. That's what he said.
Speaker 1: What's the biggest misconception of him? You think the biggest
Speaker 1: misconception of Tom Brady? I think he said he's cool.
Speaker 1: Is that, Yeah, he is cool. No, I think that's
Speaker 1: the biggest misconception. He's not that cool depends. That's the
Speaker 1: misconception right there, because he's cool. When he's comfortable, he's cool.
Speaker 1: But no, if he's comfortable in the situation, I think
Speaker 1: he's not cool when he's comfortable. I think when he's
Speaker 1: around us, he's kind of like a dork.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 1: And then when I mean to everyone else he's the
Speaker 1: coolest guy, which I still think he's the coolest guy ever.
Speaker 1: But then when you have him around, You're like, he's
Speaker 1: really kind of a dork.
Speaker 2: There's some situations where you know, if if he's comfortable,
Speaker 2: he's more himself, yes, yes, and he's more like you know,
Speaker 2: like like dad Jo, Like if he knows all the
Speaker 2: cameras are shut off, like he can finally.
Speaker 1: Just have something to be Tom. Yeah, he's kind of dorky. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I like, but you need a little dorky in your
Speaker 1: your quarterback.
Speaker 2: You do.
Speaker 1: Mostly all quarterbacks are a little dorky.
Speaker 2: And that's what makes some quarterbacks, I mean, not all
Speaker 2: of them, but I'm saying it's kind of like just
Speaker 2: a trait what quarterbacks have, but a little bit, just
Speaker 2: a little bit in them he is cool, but he's
Speaker 2: a little dorky.
Speaker 1: But you just said he's not cool. No, I said
Speaker 1: the biggest misconception. He's cool. He always keeps a chip
Speaker 1: on his shoulder always always. That's work.
Speaker 2: I think everyone knows this work ethic.
Speaker 1: I know, but I'm just giving some facts about him.
Speaker 1: What else is a misconception?
Speaker 2: Mmmm, that he's not clutch no's that's not even a misconception.
Speaker 2: Everyone knows he's clutched. I just wanted to try to
Speaker 2: throw you off, jewels.
Speaker 1: How about this guy also played baseball and got drafted, Yeah,
Speaker 1: by the Expos Montreal. No wonder why he didn't go
Speaker 1: and play baseball the Expos. I mean they have a
Speaker 1: cool hat, they do, got cool colors. They're gone though
Speaker 1: they're not even there.
Speaker 2: No, So, I mean that's why he didn't want to
Speaker 2: go there. He's like, oh man, my legacy. I go there,
Speaker 2: the team's going to be gone. That means I'm going
Speaker 2: to be gone. I want to last forever. I'll go
Speaker 2: to the New England Patriots instead. Yeah, he was in
Speaker 2: high school when he got drafted. He went to the
Speaker 2: same He went to the same Now he was going
Speaker 2: to the Patriots.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he went to that I remember, well, we grew
Speaker 1: up in the same area, so he went to the
Speaker 1: same high school as Lynn Swan, Barry Bonds. There's like
Speaker 1: so many really good athletes to come out of that
Speaker 1: freaking school, Sarah, it's all boys school. What what was
Speaker 1: the moment that Tom made you the most annoyed? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, when I would return punts, Like I remember
Speaker 1: my rookie year. It was the freaking preseason game. It
Speaker 1: was my first punt return and there was a repunt
Speaker 1: and I ended up housing the second one, but the
Speaker 1: first one. I see Tom on the sideline and he's
Speaker 1: got a little anxiety because it's his first game from
Speaker 1: his knee. So he's like he was like coaching me
Speaker 1: up on how to return a punt. He's like, just
Speaker 1: get up there, just get up there. I'm sitting there
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at him, like, fuck, this guy. This
Speaker 1: guy has never done this. He does not know what
Speaker 1: I'm feeling right now. I was so annoyed with him.
Speaker 1: And then then they repunted it and I housed it
Speaker 1: and I fucking slammed the ball against the thing. I
Speaker 1: was fired up, and I was like, I was so
Speaker 1: annoyed with them like this guy is he's never felt
Speaker 1: what it fills when the guys are running full This
Speaker 1: is new to me. I never felt it either at
Speaker 1: the time, so I like, fuck this guy, Let me
Speaker 1: do what I gotta do. It is not a run.
Speaker 1: And I was so annoyed with them. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: mine what was yours.
Speaker 2: When I was a rookie, and I couldn't get outside
Speaker 2: of the defender on a flag route, which is flag rout,
Speaker 2: which is a corner route, so you run about ten
Speaker 2: twelve yards and you know, you give a little stick
Speaker 2: and you break it forty five degrees and run a
Speaker 2: corner route, and the defender was always outside of me,
Speaker 2: sitting at like squatting at ten yards, and he's always says,
Speaker 2: get outside. If you have a flag route corner route,
Speaker 2: you gotta get outside of the defender or else I
Speaker 2: will never throw you the freaking ball.
Speaker 1: So I was a rookie.
Speaker 2: I was kind of like clunky. So I wasn't really
Speaker 2: that athletic as a rookie. You know, I wasn't running
Speaker 2: routside right, yea double day's and yeah, I was tired
Speaker 2: as well. I couldn't get outside, and in practice I
Speaker 2: didn't get outside of the guy. He's like two three
Speaker 2: yards outside of me too, and I'm trying to fake
Speaker 2: him like I'm going inside and trying to get around
Speaker 2: him on the corner and Brady just turns around in
Speaker 2: the meeting because it's on film, and he turns around.
Speaker 2: He goes, Gronk, I'm fucking done throwing you the ball.
Speaker 2: I told you fifty times to get outside. You're not
Speaker 2: getting outside. And like I got all sad and alge
Speaker 2: Crumper started patting my leg and he's like, it's okay, Gronk,
Speaker 2: he doesn't mean it.
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah he does, alg Man, he
Speaker 1: means it.
Speaker 2: And let me tell you this time, you fucking throw
Speaker 2: me the ball like a thousand times after so I
Speaker 2: knew he was all bullshit. I'm telling me he was
Speaker 2: never gonna throw me the ball again. I was literally
Speaker 2: like but that fired me up. I was like, all right,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna show this guy. But that's the leadership he had.
Speaker 2: He was brutally honest and he would freaking get you
Speaker 2: to go to the next level, which was crazy, which
Speaker 2: was crazy. He was so good at it, but I
Speaker 2: was so annoyed because I couldn't get outside the guy.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I want to Big Tom, run the freaking route.
Speaker 2: I guarantee you can't get outside the guy either. He's
Speaker 2: three hours outside of me. And then if I got
Speaker 2: outside him, it was basically like an out route I
Speaker 2: was running because I would have to flatten it so
Speaker 2: much so I couldn't really run the corner route.
Speaker 1: And you get in the other responsibility to the other guy, Well,
Speaker 1: he just wanted to get a defender in practice, he's
Speaker 1: playing the play, yeah.
Speaker 2: And then and he knew the place. He just wanted
Speaker 2: to get the point across, ye like. So it was
Speaker 2: just always in my memory, and every time I ran
Speaker 2: a route, it was kind of just like on autopilot,
Speaker 2: just to get outside of the defender. So I was
Speaker 2: annoyed at that, and you know, with that situation, but uh,
Speaker 2: you know, times of change. I started running routes where
Speaker 2: I would go inside the guy and then he would
Speaker 2: still throw me the ball as well later on, because
Speaker 2: he's like, all right, he proved, he proved.
Speaker 1: It enough that you can do it. Well, then you
Speaker 1: guys start throwing the back shoulder shit. Yeah, And then
Speaker 1: we started doing all that. Also. I also used to
Speaker 1: get really annoyed when in meeting rooms, if he liked you,
Speaker 1: and I felt both of these. I felt when he
Speaker 1: liked the guy, he'd like he would like love them up.
Speaker 1: And then there'd be so like when when Wes was there.
Speaker 1: I get so annoyed when I would do the exact
Speaker 1: same thing that Wes would do and he he wouldn't
Speaker 1: think it was good, and I would get so fucking
Speaker 1: annoyed with him. But I remember when West left, then
Speaker 1: I was that guy. There was guys doing trying to
Speaker 1: do that what I would do, and he wouldn't. So
Speaker 1: like I would get annoyed with that so much when
Speaker 1: he would always bring up, like, babe, just do it
Speaker 1: a little more like Wessey. He called him Wessy. When
Speaker 1: he called him Wessy, Remember Wessy, Hm, I used to
Speaker 1: get so annoyed.
Speaker 2: You want to know what I would get annoyed with
Speaker 2: him too. It's like we're in the off season. We
Speaker 2: just ran fifty routes. It's like you and I out there,
Speaker 2: only we're dead tired. It's ninety degrees outside, middle of
Speaker 2: the summer, and he'd be like one more, just one
Speaker 2: more route, because he's just throwing the ball. His arm
Speaker 2: can throw one hundred and fifty passes a day, and
Speaker 2: we're running the freaking fifty routes and he's been one more,
Speaker 2: so then we would run, run more. We give it
Speaker 2: all all. We're about to throw up. It's middle of
Speaker 2: the summer. We probably are hungover. He has no clue
Speaker 2: what that's like because he used to He used to, yeah,
Speaker 2: and then he became lame. Yeah, he became lame for
Speaker 2: like a couple.
Speaker 1: Of years now.
Speaker 2: He back in the day, I guess he wasn't lame.
Speaker 2: If you're saying he's not lame, he was lame. Okay,
Speaker 2: say it, Jules.
Speaker 1: You know he was lame. Yeah, like when it came
Speaker 1: when it came to that, he was lame. But we
Speaker 1: didn't get him when he was young. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: He was already thirty three when I first met him,
Speaker 2: and then when I were thirty, freaking lame at thirty
Speaker 2: three years old, complaint. Compare it to when I was
Speaker 2: freaking twenty one, twenty eight years old.
Speaker 1: You're right, because then he was twenty three, twenty four.
Speaker 1: He was the there's you know, he was the best
Speaker 1: chugger on the team. He was like he was a
Speaker 1: dude's dude. So back to the story, like he'd be
Speaker 1: one more and then you would.
Speaker 2: You would run one more route and they'd beck one
Speaker 2: more and then you just be like, Tom, I'm not
Speaker 2: off and running one more. I just ran fifty routes,
Speaker 2: you know, one more, but one more you want to
Speaker 2: get better?
Speaker 1: One more.
Speaker 2: And then it'd be like fifteen more routes and then
Speaker 2: finally it was the last one and it.
Speaker 1: Was fifty and then you get to seventy five. He's
Speaker 1: like he just wanted seventy five throws. Yeah he was
Speaker 1: seven five throws. Whatever Tom says, you do, you gotta,
Speaker 1: you got your son. I remember those days, man. That
Speaker 1: what made us great? Though.
Speaker 2: What was the moment that, like you felt like you
Speaker 2: truly gained his trust and that he could rely on
Speaker 2: you even if you mess up again.
Speaker 1: He knows that you're still reliable. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: What was that moment?
Speaker 2: What was that catch? What was that play if it
Speaker 2: was a practice or if it was left well, because
Speaker 2: he loved he loved West. You just were not playing
Speaker 2: when Wes was Okay, Jules, no, but you couldn't have
Speaker 2: Tom Brady's trust.
Speaker 1: When you were when you were on when West left,
Speaker 1: you didn't like a bunch of players.
Speaker 2: Okay, he didn't like it.
Speaker 1: It was when he left he had no one. He
Speaker 1: had to trust me. You had all right, and then
Speaker 1: it was weird. It was weak one in thirteen where
Speaker 1: we played Buffalo and we went out there and we won.
Speaker 1: I had two touchdowns and and that's when I felt
Speaker 1: like all right, because we had some We had some
Speaker 1: spurts where you know, West would we get banged up
Speaker 1: and he wouldn't play, being like, trust me, trust me
Speaker 1: until you had to be the guy, until you had
Speaker 1: to be the guy. Yes, and then he truly trusted you.
Speaker 1: And that's the situation.
Speaker 2: Though he doesn't really trust a guy that you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's not able to throw to. He's got to see
Speaker 2: eighteen times a practice, you know, he has to see it.
Speaker 2: He has to do the repetitions with you in order
Speaker 2: to truly gain your trust. And it doesn't happen overnight.
Speaker 2: Now he gained your trust and you gain his trust
Speaker 2: as well, you know, just over time, over time. I
Speaker 2: would say my situation was when we played the Chicago
Speaker 2: Bears on the one on one panther route when I
Speaker 2: was going over in the snow yeah, versus Brian or Lacker,
Speaker 2: and he wanted to gain my trust. He wants to
Speaker 2: see me be physical. That's why he always emphasized me,
Speaker 2: be fucking physical. Gronk your two hundred and sixty pounds
Speaker 2: you're going versus one hundred eighty pounders or linebackers that
Speaker 2: you're still bigger than Be physical and h This was
Speaker 2: the playpanther out one out run. I run into the
Speaker 2: end zone, kind of hit the guy with my shoulder
Speaker 2: and then turn around and the ball will be right there.
Speaker 2: Because when you're physical, you know, pushes the guy back
Speaker 2: a little bit. When you use your shoulder, you turn around,
Speaker 2: then there's that little ounce of separation and Tom can
Speaker 2: see that. He can see the field. He can see
Speaker 2: all the separation in the world, hes it, he sees it.
Speaker 2: He can see every little detail that's going out on
Speaker 2: the field. And when he sees that little detail on
Speaker 2: that route, you know, with the physicality, knows he knows
Speaker 2: that you're going to be open.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a little window.
Speaker 2: I hit Brian Urlack and we practice it, and that
Speaker 2: Friday he says, I want to see that in the
Speaker 2: game because I ran it great on Friday. So the
Speaker 2: game comes when I won versus Brian Lacer give him
Speaker 2: the shoulder turn right around the balls, right there, nice
Speaker 2: and low where it's always supposed to be in the
Speaker 2: red zone.
Speaker 1: Boom, catch it.
Speaker 2: And ever since then I gained Tom Brady's trust right
Speaker 2: there and then on the spot, which was.
Speaker 1: One of the greatest moments of my career. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: remember that he is you know, he had to see it.
Speaker 1: That's what makes him. He's a dog man. He's assassin.
Speaker 1: He is an assassin. What's your favorite Tone memory?
Speaker 2: My favorite Tom memory is actually, this is one of
Speaker 2: my favorite memories of all time. You know, when we
Speaker 2: were playing the Indianapolis Colts and I ran that five
Speaker 2: yard out route, caught it versus d Kwel Jackson. I
Speaker 2: did a little spin move, he kind of fell, did
Speaker 2: a little split.
Speaker 1: It was like, very great route by me. Great after
Speaker 1: the catch too. And then I'm running, you know, I'm going.
Speaker 2: There's a couple other guys and here comes Julian adamman
Speaker 2: Ka Boom just absolutely levels Adams.
Speaker 1: The safety, you know, gets them out of my way.
Speaker 2: I'm like, thanks Jules for the block, you know, and
Speaker 2: then I'm running into the end zone. I jump over Butler.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dB, yeah, DBI.
Speaker 2: What's his first name again, Yeah, Darius Butler, who was
Speaker 2: previously on the on the Patriots and then he went
Speaker 2: to the Colts and now he's doing he's doing a
Speaker 2: great job in the media. Yeah, it was a McAfee show.
Speaker 2: He's doing a great job. So shout out to Darius Butler.
Speaker 2: But I jumped over his ass. Made me look goods
Speaker 2: flipped into the end zone. I looked like an athletic
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty pound wide receiver. And then this
Speaker 2: was the moment, one of my favorite moments with him.
Speaker 2: Tom loved the route, loved the catch, loved your block.
Speaker 1: He was so pumped up.
Speaker 2: He ran full speed from the thirty guy line and
Speaker 2: probably because I got him a touchdown on a play
Speaker 2: where it never should have been a touchdown. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: he came running full speed and jumped on my back
Speaker 2: and went for a ride.
Speaker 1: Man. He was. He was like a pony on a horse. Man.
Speaker 1: I brought him for a ride. Man.
Speaker 2: I was carrying Tom Brady around in the freaking end zone.
Speaker 1: He was. He was on my back.
Speaker 2: Put the pony on the horse. I was waiting for
Speaker 2: him to drop that quarter in so the rock can
Speaker 2: keep on going. Yes, I didn't want him to get off.
Speaker 2: I was like, Tom Brady's on my back, like like,
Speaker 2: what else do I need in my life? Oh my god. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And it's one of my favorite pictures to sign to
Speaker 2: this day as well. I don't think he ever signed it.
Speaker 2: It costs like five billion dollars to get him to
Speaker 2: sign a picture. So like I always signed the picture
Speaker 2: on my back and like I'm waiting for that picture
Speaker 2: to be worth a lot more money once he signs it.
Speaker 1: The couple, you know. But he hasn't signed it yet.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: That was a fucking fun play. That was a fun play.
Speaker 1: Thank you for that block. Oh you level Adams. Adams,
Speaker 1: he's talking in the safety was the battle he was
Speaker 1: with Denver battle. He battled us a lot. Man. He
Speaker 1: brought it, He brought it to and he wasn't scared.
Speaker 1: He was good. Yeah, there it is.
Speaker 2: There's a picture right there. Oh wait, he signed there
Speaker 2: it is. Man, he's going for a ride. I'm still
Speaker 2: waiting for those corners.
Speaker 1: Tom. Oh my gosh, there's.
Speaker 2: Tim Wright right in the back too. We won the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl this year, didn't we And we won a
Speaker 2: super Bowl this year. Yeah, yeah, I think it was
Speaker 2: who Man was was a tight end as well in
Speaker 2: the two tim right and who Man?
Speaker 1: I love who Man? All right, what was your favorite memory, Jules?
Speaker 1: My favorite memory was when we it it kind of
Speaker 1: that fourteen when he, uh, we hit that route. He
Speaker 1: came up to me afterwards and he and he goes,
Speaker 1: that was a championship route, man, and like it was
Speaker 1: nothing crazy, that's special. And he when he you know,
Speaker 1: he goes, that was a championship play man. And we
Speaker 1: didn't win the game.
Speaker 2: Yet right now because him saying that's a championship route,
Speaker 2: that's a championship play.
Speaker 1: That means a lot. Yeah, And and then afterwards when
Speaker 1: he we won, you know, like that was his That
Speaker 1: was when he got four and I just remember, you know,
Speaker 1: there were so many memories of him, like you said,
Speaker 1: how he's having the ticker of the super Bowl location
Speaker 1: and the whole story where I said, man, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: help you try to get to Joe. And because we
Speaker 1: were both Bay Area fans, love Joe Montana and I
Speaker 1: told me he was the greatest quarterback of all time,
Speaker 1: and you know that all that was just a fun
Speaker 1: memory there's so many it's it's hard to fucking do
Speaker 1: one kind of all right, I mean I'm gonna start.
Speaker 1: I know me too.
Speaker 2: There's there's a lot of memories with Tom. It's just
Speaker 2: great to see him. He's doing so good in the
Speaker 2: broadcasting booth. I mean, if he just puts in ten
Speaker 2: percent of the effort that he did with the game
Speaker 2: of football in his after career, in his post career
Speaker 2: after football, he's gonna.
Speaker 1: Have the whole world just which you know he is
Speaker 1: to eat from.
Speaker 2: He's gonna be successful and anything that he does, and
Speaker 2: that's what he's gonna do. He's actually gonna go one
Speaker 2: hundred percent all in with what he does. He's great
Speaker 2: in the booth, like I said, and he's been improving
Speaker 2: so much every single week and it just shows he
Speaker 2: is actually a human. I mean, Week one, he was good,
Speaker 2: he got the win, but he definitely could improve. And
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden Week two and three, You're like,
Speaker 2: what the heck? How did he just go from being
Speaker 2: like a rookie quarterback to a veteran quarterback in one
Speaker 2: week in the broadcast booth. So just shout out to him.
Speaker 2: I mean, he dedicates himself, and he works on his
Speaker 2: craft like like no one ever has before.
Speaker 1: And that's what makes him, you know, the greatest, the
Speaker 1: greatest at ever. He cares about making the people look
Speaker 1: right that give him opportunity. He does. That's he cares
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 2: He takes it to heart, and he cares about showing
Speaker 2: the people that has passed on him that they fucked
Speaker 2: up too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he loves that. He likes that. So don't ever
Speaker 1: pass on Tom Brady. No, I won't. The only thing
Speaker 1: I'll pass on is that I was kind of a
Speaker 1: little hesitant when I said he was lame, But he
Speaker 1: was pretty lame except for when he wins a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl in Tampa Bay and he gets hammered on a
Speaker 1: damn boat. Like, where was that fucking Tom around us?
Speaker 1: I was bullshit, like I was waiting for that the
Speaker 1: whole entire time in New England.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 2: That's why I went to Tampa Bay. I went there
Speaker 2: for that moment. I didn't really want to play football again.
Speaker 2: I just wanted that moment that I could actually get
Speaker 2: wasted with Tom. But guess what, he was on a
Speaker 2: separate boat than me. I didn't even see him at
Speaker 2: the at that boat, right, So guess what, I still
Speaker 2: never had a drink with Tom. It took me all
Speaker 2: the way until the Roast to have a drink with
Speaker 2: Tom Brady. And that's why it was in the roast.
Speaker 2: I said, Tom, I never had a shot with you
Speaker 2: ever in my life or a drink, and he took
Speaker 2: a shot with me at the roast. So that was
Speaker 2: that was a cool moment. Yeah, well, I mean it's
Speaker 2: been thirty three minutes. How long can we talk about
Speaker 2: this guy? I think maybe we should have him on
Speaker 2: again for another episode because I got literally I can
Speaker 2: talk about this guy all day long. I could go
Speaker 2: literally two hours. The more we talk about him, the
Speaker 2: more stories that pop up in my head. Same, the
Speaker 2: more stories about him on the field, off the field,
Speaker 2: what it's like to be around him. We could talk
Speaker 2: literally for four hours straight. Jewels, what kind of du
Speaker 2: tell me what time of well? What type of dude
Speaker 2: is Tom Brady? Ladies and gentlemen, I think he is.
Speaker 1: I think this is easy, freak dog whiz. I think
Speaker 1: this is easy dude. Dude, I don't know what do
Speaker 1: you think?
Speaker 2: If it's easy, let's hear what.
Speaker 1: Let's see, he's a fucking dog He is a dog mental, physical, toughness,
Speaker 1: always motivated. He didn't have the pedigree he was he was.
Speaker 1: We saw the Brady six of the the six guys
Speaker 1: before him taking in the draft. Like he always had
Speaker 1: to go to long road. He always had to work
Speaker 1: for everything. Even when he was at his top, they
Speaker 1: were always talking about someone else. He's a fucking dog.
Speaker 2: I want to say freak, because a freak is like
Speaker 2: someone that has like the most athletic ability in the world.
Speaker 2: And he didn't really have the most athletic ability. But
Speaker 2: what's made him so great was that he didn't need
Speaker 2: the athletic ability because the dog was working harder than
Speaker 2: the athletic dog. You know that wasn't the freak dog
Speaker 2: that really or the freaky person that wasn't really working.
Speaker 1: I think he's got illness like shooting, like basically like
Speaker 1: it's kind of.
Speaker 2: Like an archer freak instincts.
Speaker 1: He could throw, Yes, he could throw rocks really good.
Speaker 1: He could probably skip a rock really really really has
Speaker 1: he probably really got a pool Yeah, like King Pong
Speaker 1: king Pom what I I Yeah, you always beat him?
Speaker 1: Never mind, he's not going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he gets really mad when he loves that's a dog.
Speaker 1: That is a dog. That's a dog. He wants to
Speaker 1: want to go gun now wants to go. Guy, he won't.
Speaker 1: He wants to go again. Won't let you fucking leave.
Speaker 2: I mean, we haven't even got to This guy's looks
Speaker 2: got either. I mean we can just say that he's
Speaker 2: a stud real quick, just because of how good he looks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he looks younger than when. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: got in the NFL. Like his chins, jawline freaking, just
Speaker 1: his beautiful blue eyes.
Speaker 2: I posted a picture that day on Instagram, like he's
Speaker 2: got like a six pack now, like his arms are jacked, Like.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's doing two days. He is doing to days.
Speaker 1: He's doing two days right now. He's got his body,
Speaker 1: he's still. So that's why maybe Ai was fucking right.
Speaker 1: He's maybe coming back. AI is is Tom Brady coming back?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: He got six pack, he got a little his hair
Speaker 1: is looking as brown as ever. He gave me this
Speaker 1: supplement that he saw my great hair. And he goes,
Speaker 1: babe here and he's take this fucking uisha I think
Speaker 1: it's like uisha ou or something in some Chinese medicine
Speaker 1: and you.
Speaker 2: Put it in the shake and her hair is already growing.
Speaker 1: It is my hair darker.
Speaker 2: That's why I don't have a hat show. I wanted
Speaker 2: to show off my hair because I've got oh, we
Speaker 2: shall product.
Speaker 1: It's like I don't know how to pronounce it'h ooh oushi.
Speaker 1: I got hair it whatever it is. Look at how
Speaker 1: good his hair looks. It's just good looking guy. Man.
Speaker 1: He's a dog, all right, He's a dog. He is
Speaker 1: a dog.
Speaker 2: It's official. Tom Brady is a dog.
Speaker 1: Man. We can talk about him forever. We'll be right
Speaker 1: back after this quick break. What dude, do we have
Speaker 1: this moment? Here we go AI summary.
Speaker 2: Oh, we have a coach here at Jules coach this
Speaker 2: NFL coach and former player Sands that's six foot four
Speaker 2: inches tall. That's two inches shorter than me and weighs
Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty one pounds out of eight pounds.
Speaker 1: Less than me.
Speaker 2: Jules versus seventy eight eight pounds, he's too sixty one.
Speaker 2: Here's two sixty one plus eight sixty nine. Yes, I'm
Speaker 2: two sixty nine, so I'm eight pounds more than this coach.
Speaker 2: A versa towle linebacker who played for the Pittsburgh Steelers,
Speaker 2: New England Patriots, and Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Can you guess who this is? Yet? I know it
Speaker 1: is it? After being drafted in the third round in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven, ninety seven, he's so old. I was
Speaker 1: like eight years old then I was like eleven.
Speaker 2: He won three Super Bowls with the Patriots and in
Speaker 2: first team All Pro honors in two thousand and seven,
Speaker 2: known for his tough, physical play and leadership.
Speaker 1: On the field.
Speaker 2: Well, that kind of translates to while he's a coach
Speaker 2: now and while also moonlighting as a goal line tight end.
Speaker 1: Goals like tight end more touchdowns than me, I think
Speaker 1: in the.
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, but not overall. Growing up in Akron, Ohio,
Speaker 2: oh so he has some roots with you, man, He
Speaker 2: has Ohio guys. He played college football at the Ohio
Speaker 2: State University. After retiring as a player, he transitioned to coaching,
Speaker 2: serving as a head coach in the NFL for six
Speaker 2: seasons before taking on his current role as a head
Speaker 2: coach of.
Speaker 1: The New England Patriots. There we go, ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: and this dude, let's get on Mike Rabel.
Speaker 2: Mike Rabel, Ladies, Hey, Jules what's the first thing you
Speaker 2: think of when you hear the name Mike Rabel.
Speaker 1: The first thing that comes to my mind is just
Speaker 1: a tough guy. He's just a tough how tough like
Speaker 1: And actually the first thing comes in my mind as
Speaker 1: an asshole asshole because he's just here, I mean, a
Speaker 1: tough asshole, A tough asshole. Okay, there we go. We
Speaker 1: never played with Rabes, but because of how legendary he.
Speaker 2: Only heard stories, the stories.
Speaker 1: We're all he's about like three people, Rabel, Bruski, and Izzo,
Speaker 1: and like Rabes was always at the helm of these
Speaker 1: crazy stories that just floated around the Patriots locker room,
Speaker 1: busting balls. That comes to my head, like I always,
Speaker 1: you always kind of remember hearing how Rabes would get
Speaker 1: on to Brady and and Brady would get on Rabes
Speaker 1: and those those wars that practice. What's the first thing
Speaker 1: that comes to your mind? A tough soob.
Speaker 2: You know, a football player, a guy that has knowledge
Speaker 2: of the game as a player and as a coach,
Speaker 2: and he's from Ohio and let me tell you, Ohio
Speaker 2: football is underrated. And you learn a lot about you know,
Speaker 2: football and who you are, you know as a person,
Speaker 2: as Well, when you grow up in the state of Ohio.
Speaker 1: How do I know that?
Speaker 2: Because I played my senior year in Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh
Speaker 2: was a big rival. Just the state of Pennsylvania was
Speaker 2: a big rival to the state of Ohio, and you
Speaker 2: got the Pittsburgh versus Ohio, you know whatever that you know,
Speaker 2: all Star games and uh just have you know, just
Speaker 2: our tough, tough players come out of you know, come
Speaker 2: out of the state Ohio and Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: They're very similar.
Speaker 2: They're kind of underrated compared to you know, you always
Speaker 2: hear about Florida, California, or Texas. All that's where all
Speaker 2: the starts, all the tough guys come from, you know,
Speaker 2: the Upper East, you know, in the US like Ohio, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 2: New York.
Speaker 1: But uh, he's he's a football guy football. Did you
Speaker 1: just try to throw New York through New York? Did
Speaker 1: you just try to sneakly throw New York football tough guys?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm from Buffalo and I went to uh
Speaker 2: you know, like I said, I went to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: Year.
Speaker 2: But yeah, Buffalo they got some tough sobs here. I'm
Speaker 2: telling you, they got they got me, they got my
Speaker 2: brother who played in the NFL. My other brother who
Speaker 2: played in the NFL too, And yeah, yeah, we're rolling, baby,
Speaker 2: We're rolling, freaking. What's what stands out to me when
Speaker 2: we were talking about him the other day though, is
Speaker 2: how he.
Speaker 1: Was drafted in the third round to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 2: And you told me that fact, and it was kind
Speaker 2: of shocking to me because I thought he was a
Speaker 2: New England Patriot from day one because of just all
Speaker 2: the stories that you heard about him, just the way
Speaker 2: that he played the game when he was in New
Speaker 2: England and what he did for you know.
Speaker 1: The Patriots as well.
Speaker 2: So I had absolutely no clue that he got drafted
Speaker 2: to the Steelers. Can you tell me how that happened
Speaker 2: as well, how he got to New England because you
Speaker 2: kind of were telling me a little bit.
Speaker 1: Well, he was a teamer, I mean, he played in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: I think he was drafted ninety seven, was a special teamer.
Speaker 1: And then I think once he became a free agent,
Speaker 1: Bill like really wanted him or something. Was that it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So why does Bill have like this nag of
Speaker 2: just finding these white dudes that just want to play football,
Speaker 2: just work hard, and they're not so good at the moment,
Speaker 2: and then he just blossoms.
Speaker 1: First thing, the guy sitting next to me like that,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's his projector Nikovichikovich was a long snapper
Speaker 1: welker in Miami.
Speaker 2: I mean what what was he just kind of a
Speaker 2: punt returner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, seventy catches. Yet he had a big year. He
Speaker 1: had a big year, not like a.
Speaker 2: Huge year like he had in New England. For he
Speaker 2: had a decent, solid year in Miami.
Speaker 1: No, but yeah, Mike was the guy that Bill always
Speaker 1: used to reference like you think you're smart, you're not
Speaker 1: no frable like and that's that's when you know someone's
Speaker 1: a smart football players when Bill's referencing him in mother
Speaker 1: Fucking you you know like that. That was always kind
Speaker 1: of like one thing that stuck out. And then just
Speaker 1: hearing from like Jimmy Whalen the training staff on how
Speaker 1: vrabel was in the locker room like hell, Corey was
Speaker 1: like hey, him and Willie Mack and Brew like he
Speaker 1: there was like the holy trinity of guys that everyone
Speaker 1: had to walk through that kept everyone accountable. And I'm
Speaker 1: really you know, I'm pretty excited. I'm excited for this
Speaker 1: this new generation of Patriots. Now, with that said, I
Speaker 1: still think the whole Mayo situation that he got the
Speaker 1: short end of the stick on this, and I feel
Speaker 1: terrible for him, and I think he's gonna do well,
Speaker 1: but like that really wasn't set up to really succeed,
Speaker 1: not at all.
Speaker 2: I think goes a little bit unfair. But shout out
Speaker 2: to Mayo because he's a great coach. He knows the
Speaker 2: game of football tremendously, and uh, you know, I just
Speaker 2: think that it wasn't set up properly for him, And
Speaker 2: I feel like he's gonna have some success in the future,
Speaker 2: you know, with another organization and possibly be another head
Speaker 2: coach down the road, you know, once he gets his
Speaker 2: footback on the gas pedal.
Speaker 1: But Rabel coming in now, like all this stuff that
Speaker 1: you hear keeping guys accountable, like he's gonna be the
Speaker 1: first doing and he can he can get away with
Speaker 1: saying things to guys the way he says it because
Speaker 1: he did it, he played it, and he's just as
Speaker 1: smart as the guys that coached him at it. So
Speaker 1: like when you have all those things and he's a
Speaker 1: burly motherfucker, like he's a big man. When you shake
Speaker 1: his hands, his hands wrapped to your wrists. He's got
Speaker 1: big ass hands, strength, man strang. I still think he
Speaker 1: got four or six plays in him. You think he
Speaker 1: could play right now? Four sixth plays?
Speaker 2: Yeah, four to six plays, like you know that offensive
Speaker 2: package of New England Patriots had for him. And talking
Speaker 2: about that offensive package, I think he had ten catches
Speaker 2: his whole entire career for ten touchdowns. So what a
Speaker 2: fucking from touch The TV is one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: That's in all time insane.
Speaker 2: And that's just how smart of a player he was,
Speaker 2: is that he knew how to get open on the
Speaker 2: offensive side of the ball and on top of it,
Speaker 2: on the defense side of the ball.
Speaker 1: I mean, just eight of and just just how good
Speaker 1: he was just knowing the game. You know what makes
Speaker 1: me so sad? Though?
Speaker 2: What's sad? Because what makes you sad? Now you're making
Speaker 2: me sad.
Speaker 1: No, it makes me sad because we always hear about
Speaker 1: the stories about Brady when he was like the young
Speaker 1: guy on the team and how Rabel and Bruski and
Speaker 1: all these guys used to like motherfuck him and it
Speaker 1: was it was and picked on him. It was a
Speaker 1: completely different Tom that we played with so like we
Speaker 1: and like you couldn't. There was only a couple guys
Speaker 1: kept really good jaw with Tom, but everyone was so
Speaker 1: scared to do it, and Tom would be hungry to
Speaker 1: jaw with people like talk shit, but like everyone was
Speaker 1: so scared to talk shit to Tom because he was
Speaker 1: already Tom by then, you know, like it was. It
Speaker 1: almost makes me like, man, I wish we got to
Speaker 1: see him in those those early stages where you were
Speaker 1: more kind of part of the boys, instead of him
Speaker 1: being like the older brother, h guy figure. You understand
Speaker 1: that Rabel was like that older brother figure to Tom. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we didn't get to see any of that.
Speaker 2: We got this the time where he was our older
Speaker 2: brother and it would have been amazing to be a
Speaker 2: part of that crew. But we're just the second, you know,
Speaker 2: era of the New England pages. But there were so
Speaker 2: many times, like you said, in the training room and
Speaker 2: the coaches that were around very able, like oh, you
Speaker 2: would have loved the guy so much, you would have
Speaker 2: loved to play with him.
Speaker 1: He gives it all. He gives it his all out
Speaker 1: on the field.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a guy that you want to be
Speaker 2: friends with as well in the locker room because he's
Speaker 2: just fun to be around, but also at the same time,
Speaker 2: he's going to go all out for you out on
Speaker 2: the field. I mean he was a grinder, yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean gritty, great size as a player, and he was
Speaker 2: an inside outside.
Speaker 1: Threat, first tier out there out in the field.
Speaker 2: And I think that's why Bill loved him so much,
Speaker 2: because how versatile he was a special teamer, could play
Speaker 2: inside backer and outside backer and when to When Bill
Speaker 2: gets a guy like that, he utilizes their skill and
Speaker 2: so many different aspects of the game and he makes
Speaker 2: you a tremendous a player and he blossoms you like
Speaker 2: no other. And that's why Bill loves those type of
Speaker 2: guys when he can get him in free agency one percent.
Speaker 1: Think about it, like he's played on every phase of
Speaker 1: the game at a high level in an important game.
Speaker 1: He's been a teamer. So like when he's addressing the
Speaker 1: team and he's watching fucking the film or having like
Speaker 1: a highlight thing that he's probably presenting the team, he
Speaker 1: can break down guy for guy because he's done it
Speaker 1: at the pro level. On defense, he knows everything about
Speaker 1: defense because he's you know, he basically was in the
Speaker 1: school of doctorates on the defense through Belichick, learning through
Speaker 1: him and then actually being on the field and experiencing
Speaker 1: it is another way he gets to coach guys and
Speaker 1: then an offense, Like, yeah, he was in a package
Speaker 1: or two, but I remember going and going on the
Speaker 1: other side of the ball when I had to play corner.
Speaker 1: Like even being in those meeting rooms for the little
Speaker 1: amount of time that I was, it opened up my
Speaker 1: mind so differently on how I thought about offense when
Speaker 1: I went back to offense and how I was attacking
Speaker 1: the defense. He's done that on offense, Like he can
Speaker 1: break down the whole the whole game, and he's a
Speaker 1: masculine figure that's gonna make you do it right, and
Speaker 1: if you don't, he's gonna motherfucker you get rid of you.
Speaker 1: He's gonna make people accountable. That's how it was the
Speaker 1: Patriot way that it was developed through these guys.
Speaker 2: I mean, and just just talking about his knowledge of
Speaker 2: the game and just the mastermind he has within the
Speaker 2: rule book of the NFL as well. Remember in the
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen playoffs, Rabel intentionally took a twelve man on
Speaker 2: the field penalty just to keep Brady off of the field.
Speaker 2: I mean, he kind of outplayed Belichick in that situation
Speaker 2: because Belichick was the master of knowing the rules inside
Speaker 2: and out and using that to his advantage. And this
Speaker 2: is a time when Rabel used it to his advantage
Speaker 2: and it was against the mastermind coach Belichick. So I
Speaker 2: learned that pretty incredible by him to do that.
Speaker 1: I learned about that little mastermind bullshit is when we
Speaker 1: went to the Kentucky Derby one year and he fucking
Speaker 1: was He was my handicapper for the horses, and I
Speaker 1: made like twenty gard in, like Rabel loves like that
Speaker 1: kind of shit. We were sitting there and I have
Speaker 1: no clue on how to gamble these horses, and raveses
Speaker 1: over here got his dip in. I think he had
Speaker 1: a cigarette, maybe a shot or two in him, and
Speaker 1: he's fucking c Yeah, he was smoking with a dip in.
Speaker 1: I'm not joking.
Speaker 2: I love this guy now.
Speaker 1: And we go and we go to the little thing
Speaker 1: where you have to put your ship in, and I'm like, Raves,
Speaker 1: what I do? He's like, don't worry at him, And
Speaker 1: I got you. You know, he fucking puts them on there.
Speaker 1: We hit it like a three thing parlay or something.
Speaker 1: He's just a smart guy. He's a smart guy that
Speaker 1: like can beat you up.
Speaker 2: What's the biggest thing in year one that he has
Speaker 2: to emphasize in New England?
Speaker 1: What do you think, Jules, Well, you gotta get some lineman.
Speaker 1: H you gotta get some right there, he gotta. They
Speaker 1: got a whole lot of money to spend. Now, knowing
Speaker 1: Mike through the years that I've known him, I'm sure
Speaker 1: he took this job knowing that he Uh, he's going
Speaker 1: to be able to spend some money.
Speaker 2: He's in a great situation heading into his first year. Obviously,
Speaker 2: he's got Drake May who's an unbelievable quarterback. He's going
Speaker 2: to develop him to best of his potential, no doubt
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 1: Uh, he was.
Speaker 2: I would say Josh McDaniels, Josh McDaniels go there, but
Speaker 2: he has to go through the whole process. Maybe he
Speaker 2: has a guy or two out there that he's thinking
Speaker 2: about bringing in, but uh, he's going through all that
Speaker 2: hiring process.
Speaker 1: Interview. I think that would But Josh McDaniels would be
Speaker 1: the best face just anywhere. He ain't. He ain't and
Speaker 1: he loves it there.
Speaker 2: I believe Josh is one of the best offensive coinators
Speaker 2: in the league as well. I mean he knows how
Speaker 2: to develop players. He developed, helped develop team he developed,
Speaker 2: You developed, Tom put me in the right situations all
Speaker 2: the time when I was in New England. He knows
Speaker 2: how to relate to guys as well, which is really good.
Speaker 2: I mean, uh, you need that, you know, with these
Speaker 2: young bucks these days.
Speaker 1: I mean, he made mac Jones a pro bowler in
Speaker 1: his rookie years, then he left.
Speaker 2: And then ain't no pro bowler.
Speaker 1: From there on out. No, there hasn't been. Hasn't been.
Speaker 2: I'll contribute all that to most of that to McDaniel.
Speaker 2: But these mcdse I like the name. I never heard that.
Speaker 2: I don't know what about Rabel. He took Ryan Tannehill
Speaker 2: out of Miami. Everyone thought he was gonna be out
Speaker 2: of the league, and he basically made him into a
Speaker 2: pro bowler, basically got the number one seed in the
Speaker 2: playoffs and almost made the Super Bowl. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: a couple of years with him too. So he knows
Speaker 2: how to develop quarterbacks. He knows how to get the
Speaker 2: best out of guys because he brings that type of
Speaker 2: energy you know, on the field, in the meeting rooms,
Speaker 2: to get the best out of players. And that's why
Speaker 2: I hear about Rabel, and that's why people love playing
Speaker 2: for him out of the guys that I know in Tennessee.
Speaker 1: I think he just feels safe when you're around him.
Speaker 1: I feel safe. I feel like whenever he was whenever
Speaker 1: we hang out, we've gone out and done things together,
Speaker 1: I just feel safe. Feel he's just burly he and
Speaker 1: he's also got the wit and like the strategy to
Speaker 1: like if something's some ship were to happen in like
Speaker 1: a bar or something like, he know an escape route,
Speaker 1: maybe take down like seven eight people himself and then
Speaker 1: get us. Like, he just feels safe with a guy
Speaker 1: like Rabel. He's the guy you you want your daughter
Speaker 1: to marry. I feel I don't know about that, all right,
Speaker 1: all right, well, well I like what you're saying. You
Speaker 1: feel safe around. You want your daughter to marry someone
Speaker 1: that around.
Speaker 2: So Jewels.
Speaker 1: Man, I'm excited for him. I'm sad for Mayo. This
Speaker 1: is like a This is really like one of those
Speaker 1: things where it's like a divorce. This is why New
Speaker 1: England keeps on putting me in these goddamn divorces. I
Speaker 1: feel like a kid that's had like five divorced parents.
Speaker 1: What can you explain more? Well, when Bill and Brady
Speaker 1: that divorce. Yeah, now you know Mayo freaking Rabes that divorce,
Speaker 1: there's like fucking hell because we're all like intertwined and
Speaker 1: it's kind of like in ssual.
Speaker 2: You're kind of like the red headed step child that's
Speaker 2: just been there throughout the whole time. That's just takes
Speaker 2: all the beatings, but in the end you're gonna still
Speaker 2: be standing there.
Speaker 1: Make it tough. It does make you tough, makes you
Speaker 1: tough man, and that's why you're the toughest guy I know. Jules. Also,
Speaker 1: i'd be I'd be crazy to say that. Yeah, our
Speaker 1: last game with Tom Brady Rabell beat us. That's why
Speaker 1: Verbel's back. That's why he's back. If he didn't win
Speaker 1: his cleats over there, if he didn't win that game,
Speaker 1: he might not be back. He might not be the
Speaker 1: head coach of the New Patriots.
Speaker 2: And maybe he wouldn't because maybe he he sent Tom
Speaker 2: Brady packing in his last game as a New Patriot.
Speaker 1: That's probably his greatest Like, that's probably what he said.
Speaker 1: The first line in the interview. Did he say that, No,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I would. But hey, mister Kraft, who
Speaker 1: sent Tom packing, I bet you he said that. I
Speaker 1: bet you he has no filter where he probably would
Speaker 1: say ship like that. He's he's the only player to
Speaker 1: have two touchdowns in a sack in a game offense
Speaker 1: and defense. I mean his versatility. Is there any other
Speaker 1: coach out there that you think could beat up Rabel?
Speaker 1: I think a good fight would be Dan Campbell and him.
Speaker 1: Oh point, but that I'm taking Rabes because Rabes d
Speaker 1: n Kimble. He was a tight end. Yeah, so what
Speaker 1: what are you saying about tight ends jewels? They're just
Speaker 1: not that tough.
Speaker 2: They're not as tough as I agree, you're one of one.
Speaker 1: I agree with your title.
Speaker 2: Ones ain't as tough as d ns, and the d
Speaker 2: ns are beastly, man, Deans are huge.
Speaker 1: You gotta be fearless, Mile Ryans. He could be in there.
Speaker 1: They all say McDermott is like a wrestler, iowast, but
Speaker 1: I'm I think Rabes is a wrestler too. And Rabes
Speaker 1: used to go against fucking Steve Neil all the time,
Speaker 1: which Steve Neil was World champions, So Rabes already got
Speaker 1: a little in on that. So I think he's I
Speaker 1: think Rabes is taking it's just weight weight class on
Speaker 1: on McDermott. And he may have the skilled technique, but
Speaker 1: Rabel would swallow him. Oh ship, What kind of dude
Speaker 1: is Mike Rabel?
Speaker 2: I mean he's stud no doubt about it. Football IQ's
Speaker 2: up there the pedigree. He's also a wizard. He does
Speaker 2: like every position he also has he does. I mean
Speaker 2: he's got the best chin in football other than like
Speaker 2: the coach coward, like having a nice chins of stock.
Speaker 1: Like he looks like the Ohio guy. When you put
Speaker 1: Ohio guy in dictionary for like recruit, it's like big
Speaker 1: white guy, big chin looks like Mustafa from fucking Beauty
Speaker 1: in the Beast. Yeah, I never seen Beauty in the
Speaker 1: Beast Or is that one? I don't know, Gustaf, you
Speaker 1: know Gustav or something, Yeah, I never seen it. Freak.
Speaker 1: I mean, he he had like man's strength, that's what
Speaker 1: everyone always talked about. His man's strength. Dog. Definitely a dog,
Speaker 1: no doubt he could be a lot room guy. I
Speaker 1: was thinking Whiz. I was gonna go with Whiz.
Speaker 2: I mean, just how clutch he was in situations and
Speaker 2: just how knowledgeable he was.
Speaker 1: And he's offense. He's a dude's dude in the Patriot world,
Speaker 1: like in bizarro world, which is not really like everywhere
Speaker 1: else where, Like being an asshole and bullying is like
Speaker 1: being positive there. So you know that's positive because it
Speaker 1: makes you accountable. So I wouldn't put him in the
Speaker 1: overall category of dudes. Dude, I would go on three,
Speaker 1: what do you think one, let's go on three, one, two, three. Whiz.
Speaker 1: He's definitely a whiz.
Speaker 2: I mean, special teamer, knows that game inside and out. Defense,
Speaker 2: I mean clearly played defense, was one of the best
Speaker 2: out there, one of the toughest. And then I knew
Speaker 2: what to do on the offense side of the ball
Speaker 2: to touchdowns.
Speaker 1: He's a whiz. And then also he's a whiz the
Speaker 1: fucking belichicking the Belichick with the timeout of the.
Speaker 2: Twelve man on the fid men on the field.
Speaker 1: You know, so wizard, he's a whiz. Next our next guest, though,
Speaker 1: I think we should go over to the Alabama side.
Speaker 1: We're fair, We're fair, We're very fair. This guy, though,
Speaker 1: was never fair on a goal line play, or he
Speaker 1: was never fair on a second and ten in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl or second in goal in the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: where he had to make a life changing play to
Speaker 1: create and tackle h Marshawn Lynch. This guy had the
Speaker 1: hugest calves I've ever seen. Next guest, Dante Hi Tower, Danta,
Speaker 1: I mean Dante Hi Tower, Dante Dante hi Jan even
Speaker 1: I know it's Dante. I'll get into it after Ai.
Speaker 1: And which a I have to say about Dante because
Speaker 1: we know him is the AI synopsis. Obviously I'm improving my.
Speaker 2: Speaking skills because I couldn't say synopsis on our very
Speaker 2: first episode, Julianna, and now I can't. So this is
Speaker 2: what's so great about Dudes on dudes is that we're
Speaker 2: getting smarter as being complete dudes overall. Synopsis, synopsis. All right,
Speaker 2: here we go the synopsis or Dante Hier this week.
Speaker 2: He's a former NFL linebacker. Dante high Tower is a
Speaker 2: former NFL linebacker known for his leadership and versatility on
Speaker 2: the field. A two time Pro Bowler, high Tower played
Speaker 2: his entire nine year NFL career with the New England Patriots,
Speaker 2: the same amount of years I played with the New
Speaker 2: England Patriots, nine, helping the team win three Super Bowl titles,
Speaker 2: just like myself, helping the New England Patriots win three
Speaker 2: Super Bowl titles. I love this guy already. Prior to
Speaker 2: the NFL career, he was a standout at the University
Speaker 2: of Alabama, where he was a key figure and winning
Speaker 2: two BCS national championships. This freezing guy is a winner,
Speaker 2: that's all I know. Five championships at the highest level,
Speaker 2: two in college, three in the NFL. Over what over
Speaker 2: a thirteen to fourteen year period. Ridiculous winner winner Chicken Danner,
Speaker 2: that's for sure. Born and raised in Lewisburg, Tennessee. Oh,
Speaker 2: the walls must not like him.
Speaker 1: That's I don't want to wow. Maybe he didn't want
Speaker 1: to go to Mayo's fin steps. Oh, shots fired all right.
Speaker 2: High Tower was known for his high football IQ and
Speaker 2: relentless work ethic. After retiring in twenty twenty two, high
Speaker 2: Tower joined the Patriots coaching staff while also pursuing business ventures,
Speaker 2: spending time with his family, and engaging and charity charitable work,
Speaker 2: earning admiration for his calm and thoughtful demeanor.
Speaker 1: Off the field. Oh that's my guy.
Speaker 2: He is calm and does have that demeanor of being relaxed,
Speaker 2: but he will rip your freaking head off, face off.
Speaker 2: He'll bring your arm off.
Speaker 1: What's the first thing that comes to mind when you
Speaker 1: think about Dante. I'm scared of Dante Hi Tower.
Speaker 2: But the first thing that comes to mind right now
Speaker 2: is I'm looking at the picture of him in high
Speaker 2: school and he looks exactly like Matthew Slater, but with
Speaker 2: big ears, like alf years. So if you can put
Speaker 2: that up, please and show everyone he's he was Matthew
Speaker 2: Slater in high school with alf ears.
Speaker 1: I just looking at the picture. Pretty pretty dog slay dogs.
Speaker 2: Shot fire more shots fire that former teammates, Pum pum.
Speaker 1: We love shooting shots at our former teammates.
Speaker 2: Please shoot them back.
Speaker 1: We appreciate that there's one guy who can't handle our
Speaker 1: shots fired at him. Think of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but theh Tower was such a better linebacker than yeah,
Speaker 2: short linebackers. But all right, back to Dante. All right,
Speaker 2: here's my story. This guy I was scared of. Actually
Speaker 2: he was what first round pick, New England pager, like.
Speaker 1: Top top fifteen or so. When you have a linebacker that's.
Speaker 2: Twenty fifth six, what is he six four six three,
Speaker 2: you know, six and can move like he's a little guy.
Speaker 2: I'm scared of those guys. You want to know why,
Speaker 2: because they got that leverage. He's not a little guy,
Speaker 2: You're just massive. No, I'm scared of those I don't
Speaker 2: know why those guys. I'm scared of those big guys
Speaker 2: that are in the frame why of six you know,
Speaker 2: one to six four and are wide as well, like
Speaker 2: you just said, because they got that leverage and they
Speaker 2: can get underneath me, and then that's when I lose.
Speaker 1: And I don't like that.
Speaker 2: Juill see, I gotta outsmart these guys, so Dante, I
Speaker 2: had to, you know, try to outsmart them on the
Speaker 2: football field and going versus them in practice. And that
Speaker 2: was just to not get touched by him, you know,
Speaker 2: try to run away from him because he was always
Speaker 2: gonna win versus me and camp.
Speaker 1: I was a rookie. I was coming off that ankle injury.
Speaker 1: I wasn't a rookie. He was a rookie. I was
Speaker 1: coming off the ankle injury. When you know that guy in.
Speaker 2: Baltimore and broke my ankle. Pollard, Yeah, very very so.
Speaker 2: I didn't really heal that well that whole year at
Speaker 2: South Padre Island spring break, my cast and everything came
Speaker 2: back every time in my ankle was good. It really wasn't,
Speaker 2: you know. But don't tell Bill, Bill, don't listen to that. Okay,
Speaker 2: you've done things like that too, Jewels, So that's gonna
Speaker 2: make me feel better just saying that. But uh, I
Speaker 2: can't get open. I'm not doing this well in training camp.
Speaker 2: My back's tarting to go out of me because I'm compensating.
Speaker 2: I'm just making excuses right now.
Speaker 1: Why Dante, you know, dominated me when he was a rookie.
Speaker 2: But this guy, when they're that wide, they're built that strong.
Speaker 2: You could just tell he had that presence of Yo,
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna move that guy. No one's really gonna
Speaker 2: move that guy, being sixty three two hundred and sixty pounds.
Speaker 2: And I accidentally like caught him one time running your route.
Speaker 2: I tried going around him and like we caught like
Speaker 2: shoulders or something. It can't exactly pinpoint what it was,
Speaker 2: and like it was kind of like a cheap shot
Speaker 2: on him, but it was totally accidental, and I yeah,
Speaker 2: it wasn't a chip. It was like he was at
Speaker 2: the linebacker position kind of stepping up for the run
Speaker 2: and kind of ran into you. I think I kind
Speaker 2: of face masked him or something and then.
Speaker 1: Like yanked it a little bit.
Speaker 2: He turned around and he was furious. He was vicious,
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh man, he took it to
Speaker 2: a whole other level. The next play versus me, and
Speaker 2: I literally learned I will never piss off Dante High
Speaker 2: Tower ever again.
Speaker 1: You got to piss it. You mustn't do something crazy,
Speaker 1: because I never really seen him pissed off. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was mad, man, he was mad.
Speaker 2: The guy's a freak. You can't really block him in
Speaker 2: the run game. You can't really stop him in the
Speaker 2: past game either if he's rushing at you because he
Speaker 2: can move so well and can get around you, or
Speaker 2: he can bowl rush you. So the guy man freak
Speaker 2: of an athlete, no doubt about that. And I swear
Speaker 2: if you go to a barbecue with him, he'll eat
Speaker 2: like fifteen pounds of like Rabbi steak.
Speaker 1: And Briskey can eat. When'd you see me whatever at
Speaker 1: those team outings that we have and like it turns
Speaker 1: in the muscle right on the street muscle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you know how the Wolverine character or whatever,
Speaker 2: and like the Hawk like they just you know in
Speaker 2: those movies, like whatever, we do they just you know,
Speaker 2: turn into the creature that they are, Like, that's what
Speaker 2: he did when he ate ate that food.
Speaker 1: He just turned into Dante hitar dude. Well, I mean
Speaker 1: his nickname was Zeus, which is like huge, huge Greek.
Speaker 2: I remember, like really, he was a rookie and I
Speaker 2: was already telling him that he's going to sign a
Speaker 2: one hundred million dollar deal at the middle linebacker position.
Speaker 1: Did you yeah, how'd you know? Because I was facing Brison.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this guy freaking good. He good. He can
Speaker 1: move cover, he can you know, stop the run, he
Speaker 1: can do it all. I mean, Scar, he looks like
Speaker 1: the predator out there because he has dreads, like early
Speaker 1: in his creating. But when he got dreads and you're
Speaker 1: that big and wide, Dante looks like he has two
Speaker 1: houses for calves. His calves are so damn big. Is
Speaker 1: the largest cat. I used to tell him that every
Speaker 1: day I walk by, he'd be in his sandals. We'll
Speaker 1: be walking by each other in the hallway. I see
Speaker 1: his cap, Like, bro, can you fucking ease up on
Speaker 1: the calf raises? Jesus Christ, it wasn't the calf raises,
Speaker 1: it was the brisket. It was probably the Brits call
Speaker 1: right to his cast, right to Drew, right to his
Speaker 1: calv And Dante was a smart ass football player, smart,
Speaker 1: very smart football player. And I remember going to his
Speaker 1: house once and I walked over there and he, like
Speaker 1: you said, he's just like a he's a quiet he's
Speaker 1: kind of quiet, but he's vicious. And I go to
Speaker 1: his house and I'm like, is that a fucking video
Speaker 1: game station with keyboard in mouse? Dante high Tower is
Speaker 1: a keyboard guy in the video games. I go, what
Speaker 1: the fuck is this bro? He goes, what, bro? Whatever?
Speaker 1: You know, he's like a whiz. He's a fucking whizz,
Speaker 1: this guy. He's insane on call of duty too. Don't
Speaker 1: don't let him. Don't let him trick you and think
Speaker 1: he's not. He's a fucking gamer. He used to he
Speaker 1: was really good.
Speaker 2: Well that's why he's a football coach now for the
Speaker 2: New England Patriots football because you gotta.
Speaker 1: Be smart, you gotta be a whiz in order to
Speaker 1: be a coach. How do you think he's doing a
Speaker 1: coaching I feel like he's doing fine. How do you
Speaker 1: think they're feeling over there now?
Speaker 2: I feel like Dante's always feeling good.
Speaker 1: Man. He's never down an even guy. He is, man,
Speaker 1: he really is.
Speaker 2: He's the guy that had the ultimate pass from Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1: He always had. That's how scary he was that coach
Speaker 1: was even scared of him. I don't think coach is
Speaker 1: scared of him. Coach loved He wasn't scared of him.
Speaker 2: Man, He loved him because he was He was a
Speaker 2: well built football player and he played the game how
Speaker 2: it should be played Bill, and Bill loves guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah he did. We're offense. That's why we never got
Speaker 1: loved Jules.
Speaker 2: Who else had the Bill pass? Basically a male had
Speaker 2: that pass. He could do whatever he wanted to do.
Speaker 1: And Bill that's fine. You know. Devin Belichick mccordy, I
Speaker 1: mean that's one of his sons. I think that's his
Speaker 1: actual middle name. Now who else was another one? In past?
Speaker 2: We mean, like you know, if they didn't want to practice,
Speaker 2: or if like there, you know, hamstring was a little sore,
Speaker 2: they be coach.
Speaker 1: I can't I can't go to the coach. But no problem,
Speaker 1: just hang out in the training room and get it
Speaker 1: rubbed on.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: No, I was thinking more of the past. You know,
Speaker 1: how has been over here testing the guys around a
Speaker 1: show like, Hey, who's this guy? Who's that guy? Well,
Speaker 1: for the offense, he'd be like, hey, Rob, what's the
Speaker 1: exotic front of the defense that you expect to see
Speaker 1: on third and two? And Rob's sitting there like going
Speaker 1: through the What the fuck? Hey, Devin, what color is
Speaker 1: the offense that we're playing? If they're at home?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 1: I think green? Yes, good job, Like that's the past
Speaker 1: we're talking about. Or like whenever you give a question
Speaker 1: to like the defensive line, like do these guys like
Speaker 1: to run the ball or pass the ball? They got
Speaker 1: Derek Henry, I'm like, uh, coach, I'm on offense, I
Speaker 1: think they like to run the ball. God, hey, gentlemen,
Speaker 1: what is the punter? What school did he go to?
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the past we're talking And Dante
Speaker 1: got that. Bill love Dante and it was deserving. Dante
Speaker 1: was He was one of the alphas. He sat in
Speaker 1: the Teddy Bruski locker when you walked into the I
Speaker 1: think it was either the Teddy Bruski or the Willie
Speaker 1: mac locker. They'd always put those two guys in because
Speaker 1: when you had to walk in the locker room, you
Speaker 1: had to walk by those guys. He was one of
Speaker 1: those guys. I mean he was. He was a great teammate.
Speaker 2: Where would you rank him as an all time you know,
Speaker 2: Patriot player on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got to be up there. I mean,
Speaker 1: we wouldn't had the Super Bowl if he didn't make
Speaker 1: that second down, the second down goal line player.
Speaker 2: That's very true what you said. We would have never
Speaker 2: won that Super Bowl. That Malcolm Butler catch would have
Speaker 2: never happened because Marshawn Lynch would have scored already. And
Speaker 2: everyone talks about, hey, why didn't Marshawn Lynch get you know,
Speaker 2: the handoff or why didn't they hand off the ball? Well,
Speaker 2: there was a play prior to that wasn't It wasn't
Speaker 2: the exact play before. Well, Marshawn Lynch did have the ball.
Speaker 2: And what happened one on one with Dante high Tower.
Speaker 2: And you never seen Marshawn Lynch never go down ever
Speaker 2: one on one on one and literally Dante high Tower
Speaker 2: is the only guy that can you know, possibly do that,
Speaker 2: and he knocked him right down and he stopped him
Speaker 2: in order to the next play, in order to get
Speaker 2: to the next play that Malcolm Butler had that interception,
Speaker 2: so they already gave it to Marshaun Lynch to have
Speaker 2: that chance to score. So without Dante high Tower, we
Speaker 2: would have never had that, you know, first super Bowl.
Speaker 1: In New England, no doubt about him.
Speaker 2: And then and another big play that he has had,
Speaker 2: you know in his career was that stripsack in the
Speaker 2: game that unfortunately I didn't play in because my backup
Speaker 2: blown out when I went up to see him because
Speaker 2: Tom threw me up to see him earlier that year
Speaker 2: and then I got leveled and lost a lung in
Speaker 2: them back and I still came back the next year.
Speaker 2: But yeah, in that Super Bowl vers Atlanta, that strip
Speaker 2: sack Man, So just continue the domination of the comeback.
Speaker 1: That was an incredible play. He comes through in the
Speaker 1: clutch at all times. I still who blew your back out?
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas? We're not going that deep about who blew
Speaker 1: my back out? It was It was a dude, though.
Speaker 1: It was a dude.
Speaker 2: His name was Earl Thomas.
Speaker 1: He's a Torpedo. Yeah, Torpedo was a big player that
Speaker 1: you can recall. The guy always had a big play
Speaker 1: when the team needed I mean you go back into college.
Speaker 1: In the National Championship, he had a sip sack. That's
Speaker 1: the kind of player Dante was. Fucking when your team
Speaker 1: needed a big play, a big moment, he was super versatile.
Speaker 1: I remember him. He'd be middle linebacker and we put
Speaker 1: him at defensive ends sometimes because you could rush a
Speaker 1: passer like. He just was big time player to make
Speaker 1: big time plays. That is a huge contribution why I
Speaker 1: have three super Bowl rings, you have four. There's a
Speaker 1: huge part of it. I mean, we wouldn't have been
Speaker 1: there without him. You know, I'd always call him. If
Speaker 1: you see how his name's spelled, it's don't a with apostrophee,
Speaker 1: and so I used to call him Danta very you know,
Speaker 1: I used to call him a Danta in not locker room.
Speaker 1: He go, jeels, don't you fucking call me Danta? I go,
Speaker 1: why not, Danta? He goes, because if you fucking call me,
Speaker 1: all these white people out here in Boston they're gonna
Speaker 1: be calling me Danta. Don't you fucking call me Danta.
Speaker 1: My name is Dante. I'm like, all right, Danta, Jules,
Speaker 1: even I knew it was Dante. You must you must,
Speaker 1: you must have.
Speaker 6: Had a bad days. I just wanted to call him
Speaker 6: Dante to make fun of him time. Well, what kind
Speaker 6: of dude is he? What kind of dude is the
Speaker 6: kind of dude to Dante? I mean, Dante, you're getting
Speaker 6: me on that freaking.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, whatever you do, if you see Dante,
Speaker 1: do not call him Dante. He'll get really mad at you.
Speaker 1: He'll blame it on me. He'll fucking blame it on me.
Speaker 1: Don't call him Dante. What kind of dude is Dante?
Speaker 1: I mean he's he looks like a goddamn stud. He
Speaker 1: does look like a stud. He's a freak too. I
Speaker 1: mean he's got house for calves.
Speaker 2: I feel like he's he hits categories.
Speaker 1: He's a dudes. Dude, he's a dude. Yeah, he hits
Speaker 1: them all on three. Let's let's see which one on three? Hold.
Speaker 1: I gotta think about it real quick. All right, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go because.
Speaker 2: He's all five, so let me try to pinpoint it
Speaker 2: down the one on three, one, two, three.
Speaker 1: I think I think he's a whiz. That's why he's
Speaker 1: a coach now. He is a coach.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he knew the game of football like no other.
Speaker 2: I mean he's got a national champion has he has?
Speaker 2: He has five you know, championship said, and like.
Speaker 1: He was a first round linebacker. He had a lot
Speaker 1: of hype coming in and he backed up all the
Speaker 1: hype he did. He like, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a large. I mean he's a freak too. I
Speaker 1: mean he made big plays in big situations. He's got
Speaker 1: a pedigree, he's got football IQ, and he looks like
Speaker 1: a Greek god.
Speaker 2: But making big plays in a big game is a whiz, Jules,
Speaker 2: because he knew when to make that play to turn
Speaker 2: it around for the team.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is like a but I would I would say,
Speaker 2: though we're trying to categorize it into what like he
Speaker 2: most represents. A whiz is a guy that doesn't have
Speaker 2: the freak abilities and they get through because they're so smart,
Speaker 2: and they're not getting through because they're a freak or
Speaker 2: a stud. So that's how you become a true wiz.
Speaker 2: So therefore, he was getting through as a freak and
Speaker 2: a stud and a dog. So he can't technically be
Speaker 2: a whiz because being a whiz didn't really lead him
Speaker 2: to where he needs to be. Maybe now as a coach.
Speaker 2: Going back to that, I'm gonna have to categorize him
Speaker 2: as a stud or a freak.
Speaker 1: So let's go. Let's go back at it again and
Speaker 1: try again. Ready, one, two, three? Stud for he saw
Speaker 1: his cats. You just it would scream stud. Let's get on.
Speaker 7: Vince will Fork, big dog, Vince welfor big v Oh
Speaker 7: my god, I wonder why something?
Speaker 1: Thanks for something? The Black Thanksgiving is his favorite holiday.
Speaker 1: I bet start the clock. What's he? I gotta say,
Speaker 1: Vince Welfork.
Speaker 2: He had six foot two and weighing around three hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty five pounds, played as a dominant nose tackle
Speaker 2: in the NFL three primarily I think he was like
Speaker 2: three fifty at one point in sixty primarily played for
Speaker 2: the New England Patriots and later for the Houston Texans.
Speaker 2: Growing up in boy Town Beach, Florida, I think so
Speaker 2: Boyton Boyton, boy Tom Beach, Florida, will Fork was a
Speaker 2: track and field standout before switching to football at the
Speaker 2: University of Miami. Selected twenty first overall in the two
Speaker 2: thousand and four draft, he was known for his strength, size,
Speaker 2: and ability to stuff the run, often drawing double teams
Speaker 2: and anchoring defenses with his power and scale. Over his career,
Speaker 2: will Fork recorded five hundred and sixty tackles, sixteen sacks,
Speaker 2: and three interceptions, earning two Super Bowl championships five Pro
Speaker 2: Bowl selections in a reputation as one of the best
Speaker 2: defense tackles.
Speaker 1: Of his era.
Speaker 2: Known for his charisma and a love for barbecue, he
Speaker 2: has remained a beloved figure off the field, where his
Speaker 2: big personality and big hits made him a fan favorite.
Speaker 2: That's a lot by Ai, the long synopsis. That's the
Speaker 2: longest one we had so far. But Vince deserves it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: deserves it. He's the biggest guy so far we've been
Speaker 2: talking about. He's about three hundred and sixty five pounds.
Speaker 2: I think they got it got it wrong there. This
Speaker 2: guy can eat you up.
Speaker 1: Man. He's lost a lot of weight now, he sure has.
Speaker 1: He looks really good, man, He really good. It looks
Speaker 1: good on him.
Speaker 2: It's just sad that you know he's not coming back though,
Speaker 2: you know, because every good player you always have that
Speaker 2: imagination that they're going to come back.
Speaker 1: He never he always thought, vin I think Ve can
Speaker 1: still play. You just have that thought about him. What's
Speaker 1: the first thing that comes to your mind when you
Speaker 1: think about Big V the barbecues.
Speaker 2: You know, he came out with his own barbecue saw
Speaker 2: some pretty sure. Mister Kraft used to have that team
Speaker 2: get together, team bonding at his house in the Cape
Speaker 2: after you made the team. It was right at the
Speaker 2: end of August. What howday's at right the end of August?
Speaker 1: Labor Day?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Labor Day yep, and uh, it was Labor Day
Speaker 2: week and we would all go up there and it'd
Speaker 2: be ribs or be you know, steaks, and here comes
Speaker 2: Big V coming through and he brings his own barbecue sauce.
Speaker 1: Every single year.
Speaker 2: And I wouldn't eat those ribs or a sar line
Speaker 2: or you know, the burger meet until that barbecue sauce
Speaker 2: got there. And once Big V showed up, Hey, Big
Speaker 2: V passed that sauce over, buddy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: He loved it too, man. He loved being known about
Speaker 2: that sauce. And he just loved just the atmosphere around
Speaker 2: a cookout.
Speaker 1: For I was fortunate enough to get invited to one
Speaker 1: of his cookouts. He smokes some ribs. He was into
Speaker 1: some big ass overalls with no shirt smoking ribs. He
Speaker 1: just looks at home when he's on a barbecue. He
Speaker 1: looks like that's he's at home. The first I remember
Speaker 1: when I was a rookie. He's comfortable. That's just comfort
Speaker 1: zone for him. It is I remember my rookie year.
Speaker 1: My welcome to the NFL moment was like I was
Speaker 1: rolling in, like my Toyota rental and I park it
Speaker 1: in the way back of the players a lot, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, there's this fucking huge semi a
Speaker 1: fucking semi truck rolls in and parks up right in
Speaker 1: the and takes like two damn spots backs in backs
Speaker 1: in this big ass orange semi truck. It's fucking Vince's
Speaker 1: daily driver. Vin's had like a huge semi truck daily driver.
Speaker 1: He gets out of thinking and it looked just like
Speaker 1: him in front of the barbecue, just a comfort zone
Speaker 1: for him. Just a big ass dude getting out of
Speaker 1: a big ass truck. Big v was just fucking so cool.
Speaker 1: That was like my first welcome bed and I was like,
Speaker 1: holy shit, I don't even know you can buy semi trucks.
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of welcome to the NFL, he gave me
Speaker 2: my welcome to the NFL dosage of a.
Speaker 1: Hit Wooden training camp rookie year. You know the wham block.
Speaker 1: What's the wam block explained?
Speaker 2: Where they let go the guy let go. That's the
Speaker 2: just defensive tackle free, so then he thinks he's gonna
Speaker 2: go get a sack. And then a wham block is
Speaker 2: when I come across the line of scrimmage at the
Speaker 2: tight end position, when I'm off the ball, and I'm
Speaker 2: the one that goes, and I wham the defensive.
Speaker 1: Tackle and try to block on make a trap for
Speaker 1: this tight end.
Speaker 2: There you go exactly and we're trapping the defensive tackle,
Speaker 2: so he knows it's coming.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a specialty play that the New
Speaker 1: England Patriots been running nine nine seven. They know the
Speaker 1: fucking script well before me. Yeah it is.
Speaker 2: It was it was a nine nine to seven, so yeah,
Speaker 2: the defense does know the script so they can look
Speaker 2: really good in the run game throughout that whole period.
Speaker 2: And I think they also told him this play was coming,
Speaker 2: uh being specifically knowing I'm on the black Vince, and
Speaker 2: they wanted to see my toughness as a rookie. So
Speaker 2: the players called I'm in full Paz. You know, I'm
Speaker 2: a wam block. I got to show my toughness. I
Speaker 2: got to show my keeps. I got to get the
Speaker 2: respect of my fellow teammates, especially the veterans.
Speaker 1: Way, let me paint the picture. Also, Rob's a rookie here.
Speaker 1: Vive was like the big dog on campus. In practice.
Speaker 1: No one really gets close to him because you don't
Speaker 1: want to piss him off. When you're new, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like, holy shit, is that a that is a
Speaker 1: large human being. He's like so big, I think there's
Speaker 1: like something that orbits him, like on how round he is?
Speaker 1: Like that's you didn't want to get in his way.
Speaker 1: He didn't want to piss him off because he was
Speaker 1: very intimidating. Get back to your story. So the play,
Speaker 1: you know, gets on its way. Do my little to
Speaker 1: you know, two side steps, you know on the motion.
Speaker 1: I'm running full speed right at Vince Wolford. This guy
Speaker 1: peeks over to his left. He sees me coming. He
Speaker 1: has this grin on his face. Knowing I was coming,
Speaker 1: he put his shoulder down. I'm going full speed at him,
Speaker 1: and he gets that leverage and just tease off on me.
Speaker 1: I went flying backwards five to six yards. I didn't
Speaker 1: even land on my back. He sent me flying in
Speaker 1: the air where I landed on my feet still. Oh
Speaker 1: my god.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that hit hurt like a mother effort. But
Speaker 2: what's cool is I gained the respect to my teammates
Speaker 2: and my coach at that time, tight end coach, in
Speaker 2: that meeting that day when we went and reviewed the playerings.
Speaker 2: Brian Farrens, Love you, Brian Farrens. He's now at Iowa
Speaker 2: with his dad doing, you know, doing his thing.
Speaker 1: Doing a good job.
Speaker 2: He goes, Yo, what were you thinking trying to block
Speaker 2: Vince Wolf for He goes, You're never gonna do that again.
Speaker 2: I go, thank you, thank you. I go, I'll never
Speaker 2: do it again. And ever since that day, you know,
Speaker 2: we had about five more of those calls, and I
Speaker 2: just go up to him.
Speaker 1: I hug him.
Speaker 2: I didn't need to try to block him. It was
Speaker 2: just only gonna get me hurt from there on out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I just give him a hug, like Vince No, No,
Speaker 2: it's the way I'm black man. I know you're gonna
Speaker 2: beat me, like, there's there's no reason to go through
Speaker 2: this motion of me getting thrown backwards again.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm gonna break a rib.
Speaker 2: He's so he's so sure you love your ribs and
Speaker 2: you're gonna you know, you'll probably eat him and join
Speaker 2: him after with your barbecue sauce.
Speaker 1: Body. Oh my, that had to be so terrifying. It was,
Speaker 1: well at that time, it was intimidating guy when you
Speaker 1: joined the team.
Speaker 2: Too, terrifying after that because I was trying to, you know,
Speaker 2: gainer my keeps man like, I was trying to prove myself,
Speaker 2: so I didn't care who was in my way.
Speaker 1: And then I learned, I do care who's in my way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and when when it comes down to the NFL,
Speaker 2: you gotta that's when you learn then when to you know,
Speaker 2: take your shots to someone and when not to, when
Speaker 2: to block someone hard, when to kind of like just
Speaker 2: brother in law, box someone out as well, instead of
Speaker 2: trying to hit him full speak and you hit him
Speaker 2: full speed heads up. They you know, they're way bigger
Speaker 2: than you. This is when you started learning the ins
Speaker 2: and outs. And that's one ins and out. I learned
Speaker 2: big time.
Speaker 1: Freaking v And he was so quick too, Like that's
Speaker 1: what people don't realize, like they just surprisingly.
Speaker 2: Quick because of how big he was and his feet
Speaker 2: he had fast feet. Man, he was kind of like
Speaker 2: a running back. That pitter patters, like whoa big burp
Speaker 2: right there, Jules. Wow, was the barbecue I ate from
Speaker 2: five years ago with big vans and still coming out
Speaker 2: we ate that much. I tasted that barbecue sauce right
Speaker 2: that was good. But his feet were surprisingly click.
Speaker 1: He was like boom. He was a rabbit out there.
Speaker 1: I remember always going in the weight room and you
Speaker 1: go over by like the kettlebells and like the arm
Speaker 1: bars and stuff, and there'd always be a shock put there.
Speaker 1: Remember him. You ever see him shot put? And I
Speaker 1: never have? Oh my god, he can shock. He was
Speaker 1: a fucking track star. I think he had like the
Speaker 1: state record.
Speaker 2: He had strength too. I remember like he wouldn't go
Speaker 2: in the weight room to just like warm up, you know,
Speaker 2: do three fifteen like five. He would just go in
Speaker 2: the weight room just to you know, maintain his strength.
Speaker 2: And he would just walk in and I remember him
Speaker 2: just throwing up like four hundred and twenty five pounds
Speaker 2: in the bench and just tossing it up then racking
Speaker 2: it and be like I'm done for today. Yeah, Like
Speaker 2: he didn't even need to work on his strength that
Speaker 2: much because he was just that strong naturally and like
Speaker 2: it was to a whole nother level.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember seeing him in the weight room toom
Speaker 1: he like Marcus Cannon. When he would work out, the
Speaker 1: weights would bend. He was just so strong and he
Speaker 1: had always great movement like he was very He was
Speaker 1: very skillful, like fluid fluid. Like when you watch Big
Speaker 1: V throw football, he looks like like he spins the
Speaker 1: ball really well. You see him hit a golf ball.
Speaker 1: He fucking has an unbelievable golf swing. I mean, the
Speaker 1: guy is so athletic. He used to return punts in
Speaker 1: high school. Like I remember, you know, Bill always every
Speaker 1: training camp when it's getting to like day nine ten,
Speaker 1: guys who are worn down, beat up mentally, physically, emotionally exhausted,
Speaker 1: he'd always have a big lineman come in and try
Speaker 1: to catch a pun and if you caught punch, you'd
Speaker 1: have the night off. He threw v up there and
Speaker 1: it looked too fucking easy. I think he went in
Speaker 1: snagged that thing was.
Speaker 2: He was so athletic. He could have played fullback. I
Speaker 2: swear he could play running back and it gets gained
Speaker 2: some yards before going down tight end. He could definitely
Speaker 2: play I heard him talking about this too as well.
Speaker 2: He could play defensive end obviously, anywhere on the defensive line,
Speaker 2: and he, like you said, quarterback as well.
Speaker 1: He had an arm.
Speaker 2: He loved being you know, before practice was going on,
Speaker 2: you know, before we get really got into it, he'd
Speaker 2: be chucking the ball, you know, to his fellow defensive players,
Speaker 2: having a good old time. He was just so disruptive
Speaker 2: as well. And he was kind of like the two
Speaker 2: gap god when he was, you know, on that defensive
Speaker 2: line and being able to take two gaps. You know
Speaker 2: how much Steff Freese, that linebacker, that's a linebacker's best
Speaker 2: friend right there, Vince Well, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, Drod Mayo, Dante high Tower, Jamie Caul, they all
Speaker 1: love them. They all do it. And guys like they
Speaker 1: love guys that take double teams. Lets you get to
Speaker 1: that fucking kind of Big V just said. Big V
Speaker 1: has so many stats. He had so much production for
Speaker 1: the amount of stats he had, because he had such
Speaker 1: hidden things that made plays go. It was unblockable, and
Speaker 1: you take two double teams, they can never get the
Speaker 1: guy to the second level. Like he just was fucking
Speaker 1: a monster. And we wanted to talk about him on
Speaker 1: this show specifically because because what is he known for
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving, Jules, He's the one that created the butt but.
Speaker 2: The force, the generator of the butt fumball versus the
Speaker 2: New York Jets. Sanchez, Oh my god, he did that before.
Speaker 2: Like he it's where he gets so much penetration.
Speaker 1: He drives his guy back so far that it hit
Speaker 1: the quarterback with the guy that he was driving backs.
Speaker 1: But that made him fumble the football and Steve Gregory
Speaker 1: scoop score in his home area of New Jersey, which
Speaker 1: was just a fucking crazy game. That comes to my
Speaker 1: mind when I think events of some of his crazy stories.
Speaker 1: But also remember when we were in Buffalo and he
Speaker 1: read out the receivers Stron what was he rewarded with?
Speaker 5: Though?
Speaker 1: After that we had the turkey on the post game,
Speaker 1: he had the turkey leg. He had the turkey leg.
Speaker 2: He rewarded with a turkey leg during the post game
Speaker 2: for his contribution to the butt.
Speaker 1: Fumble, and he ate that thing. He ate it all.
Speaker 1: Not surprised. So what was it that you were talking
Speaker 1: about in Buffalo? Remember in Buffalo where they had that
Speaker 1: receiver screen and v read it and he was full
Speaker 1: full speed and a receiver was full speed, not seeing him,
Speaker 1: and it looked like it looked like it was semi
Speaker 1: hit like one of those little smart cars. Oh my god, gosh,
Speaker 1: this this is the receiver.
Speaker 2: Like he was up, he was up, and them like
Speaker 2: your finger just got bent backwards in matter of a
Speaker 2: split second.
Speaker 1: Boom. That looked like the receiver right there. Boom. It's
Speaker 1: not even that, it's not even the mass. Imagine if
Speaker 1: he like fell on you going that fast, at least
Speaker 1: you like a bug, like a fucking bug. I bet
Speaker 1: you got his why out.
Speaker 2: Of the air and it just explodes everywhere. That's kind
Speaker 2: of what happened to the Bills Wide receiver.
Speaker 1: And you always they flattened him, No, it was it
Speaker 1: was that's a terrifying hit. Like that's like, that was
Speaker 1: a terrifying hit. There's a lot of big hits that
Speaker 1: you see. You're like, all right, you can you can
Speaker 1: withstand that. But when it's it's straight physics. When you
Speaker 1: got mass times velocity, you get forced, you get fucking force.
Speaker 1: And that's what Big V was. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's right for you physics people get us in there.
Speaker 1: But then also what about what about his interceptions? We're
Speaker 1: talking big plays here. I mean he had that that
Speaker 1: pick versus Philip Rivers at home in Gillette Stadium when
Speaker 1: he was was that another screen or he was just
Speaker 1: I think he was he got tipped or somebody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did he tip it?
Speaker 1: Did he tip it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he tipped it to himself. He showed great ball
Speaker 2: skills right there. And then then you saw your fast feet, yes,
Speaker 2: and then he started just you know, trucking down the
Speaker 2: field like a rabbit with his fast feet. He looked nimble,
Speaker 2: and he looked agile and just rumbling down the field.
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone in the world that watched that play,
Speaker 1: anyone in the world didn't want that big man to
Speaker 1: score when a big man has because the ball looked
Speaker 1: like a fucking like, uh, a paper talent is in
Speaker 1: his armpit, a loaf of bread. I mean it pumper nickel,
Speaker 1: pumper nickel. It looks so small and he's like running
Speaker 1: it and like everyone is just sitting there, like, look
Speaker 1: at the big big go Remember Komley also did that
Speaker 1: and they kick off return packers. I love big man
Speaker 1: get or score a touchdown, score touch his own. A soldier,
Speaker 1: everyone loves it man. A soldier had that one the
Speaker 1: Lions are doing it a lot. Lions are doing it.
Speaker 2: We're speaking of Thanksgiving, you know, teams Lions in there,
Speaker 2: you know, don't don't not expect a trick play to
Speaker 2: alignment this Thanksgiving from the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 1: I mean, or a fake punt. You're gonna, You're gonna.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be something like that. We we talked about
Speaker 1: on this show a few weeks back. Tight End University
Speaker 1: Day or Happy tight End Day, what's called National tight
Speaker 1: End Day, National tight End There's got to be a
Speaker 1: national big Guy touchdown Day or a big Guy catch Day.
Speaker 1: It just needs to be national bing Like.
Speaker 2: It's a rule in the NFL book that you have
Speaker 2: to at least run one tackle eligible, play.
Speaker 1: One tackle eligible. The guy has to be over two
Speaker 1: and seventy five pounds and eighty five pounds has to
Speaker 1: touch a football on one specific day, National Big Fat
Speaker 1: Guy Day. I like that. That's what I think. We
Speaker 1: like that. Who's gonna stay? I think we need Big V. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Big V, come on, let's go. You remember in the
Speaker 1: butt foomball game. I remember watching it the next day
Speaker 1: in meetings. Bill rewinded it like four or five times,
Speaker 1: barely said anything, and then like got up and talked
Speaker 1: and he said, the Jets got exactly what they deserved,
Speaker 1: like did something like one of those you know, do
Speaker 1: you remember that. I actually was hurt that year duel.
Speaker 2: So I was at home just watching it from my couch,
Speaker 2: just enjoying my Thanksgiving, and I just remember that play happening.
Speaker 2: I was shocked because we were already dominating that, dominating.
Speaker 1: Dominating them.
Speaker 2: It wasn't even a close game at all. And just
Speaker 2: when that happened, I was giggling to myself, like what
Speaker 2: a play. I never seen anything like that. And I
Speaker 2: was screaming too, because Gregory just scooped it like it
Speaker 2: just didn't happen, a butt fumble and directly in his hands. No,
Speaker 2: directly on the ground and directly in the Gregory's hand.
Speaker 2: It went to the end zone of the Patriots as well.
Speaker 2: We got six points out of it. It's like it
Speaker 2: that doesn't happen usually, usually, like a play like that,
Speaker 2: you know, usually someone just gets on it and it's
Speaker 2: a fumble recovery.
Speaker 1: It went to the house. We scored on it. How
Speaker 1: do you think sanchiz or Sanchito feels about that?
Speaker 2: I mean, Sanchiz is a good dude, was a goofy dude,
Speaker 2: so I think he kind of likes it.
Speaker 1: I think he does owns it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he does own it for sure. He'll giggle
Speaker 2: about it for sure. It's kind of like the Miami miracle.
Speaker 2: I own that play. Yeah, he's kind of like the
Speaker 2: butt fumble with Sanchez. I mean it's okay, I mean,
Speaker 2: it happens.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the two thousand and four or
Speaker 1: two thousand and two frosh Off Championship between the Bee
Speaker 1: Division Ocean Division. You know, I gave this interception away
Speaker 1: and they won it on it. It's kind of like
Speaker 1: you own it now, fucking him a I'll never own it.
Speaker 2: It's bullshit. It's okay, Jules. One day you'll own it.
Speaker 2: You'll get over it. It's okay, man, we're here for it.
Speaker 2: Just be thankful for other things and then.
Speaker 1: You'll get over that. You know what. I'm also thankful for.
Speaker 1: What are you thankful for?
Speaker 2: That?
Speaker 1: We were a part of probably two of the craziest
Speaker 1: play calls in the history of football. One the butt fumble. Yes,
Speaker 1: what's more embarrassing the butt fumble? Or do you remember
Speaker 1: when the Colts had that stupid punt formation that they tried.
Speaker 2: It sad it was fourth and two and they were
Speaker 2: trying to get us on a trick more than four.
Speaker 2: It was a weird formation they had, like everyone spread
Speaker 2: out wide and then the center was down in distance
Speaker 2: and then there was a running back behind the center
Speaker 2: or something, and then they hiked it and everyone was
Speaker 2: in like in shock, like what that.
Speaker 1: Going? And that's the only reason I bring this up
Speaker 1: is because the same shock factor that we had that like,
Speaker 1: did that but just make that fumble and then we
Speaker 1: scored a touchdown. That same shock factor is the same
Speaker 1: shock factor we had when they did this punt formation thing.
Speaker 2: Did he really hiked the ball?
Speaker 1: I'm not a math guy, but three on one, I'm
Speaker 1: looking at the Colt sideline right here after the play.
Speaker 1: Are you fucking serious? What is this? Like? This is
Speaker 1: a National Football League and they're only down by six
Speaker 1: in the third quarter. I don't know. That's the cults
Speaker 1: for you. That was that was worse so than the
Speaker 1: buff fumble. Yeah, because both that's made through force in
Speaker 1: gravity exactly. The butt fumble was made by Vince in
Speaker 1: that fucking three hundred and twenty five pound frame twenty
Speaker 1: five pound frame, taking his matchup and driving him into
Speaker 1: the fucking I'm flabberg acid. I didn't realize we were
Speaker 1: going to get into that play. I think they rose
Speaker 1: the banner that year. That's why I never lost. Was
Speaker 1: that the banner year they rose? They never lost to
Speaker 1: the Colt. Did we ever lose to the Colts? I
Speaker 1: did in two thousand and nine four two, Yeah, so
Speaker 1: it doesn't count. How about the big boy on Body Issues?
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's not like it looks like muscle.
Speaker 1: It is muscle.
Speaker 2: That's why I love the ESPN the Body Issue because
Speaker 2: they featured everyone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they were just showing how were you on it?
Speaker 2: The statue? Yes, how the statue of the body representing
Speaker 2: all different types of athletes, from a guy that played
Speaker 2: tackle to a wide receiver to myself right there? Young,
Speaker 2: You want to know, the running joke was about me,
Speaker 2: I'm being on the Body Issue cover?
Speaker 1: What was that? The circle? It was really small that
Speaker 1: they needed to use. What circle? The cover? Me out? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know what, I didn't they tell you it was
Speaker 1: going to be a small set, like there's not gonna
Speaker 1: be a lot of people there.
Speaker 2: There really wasn't There's probably like five, five or six.
Speaker 2: How many people were on your I feel like there
Speaker 2: was thirty in mine.
Speaker 1: Really thirty.
Speaker 2: I wanted to see you, Jules. You're a good looking guy.
Speaker 2: I had a wonderful body.
Speaker 1: Now, how did the How did the football stay on?
Speaker 1: It's a good question.
Speaker 2: I was kind of adjusting it before every shot, and
Speaker 2: then I kind of adjusted it so I kind of
Speaker 2: found that niche did.
Speaker 1: You take to keep that thing staked up so you
Speaker 1: could just post it on there?
Speaker 2: No? No, it was actually one of the worst performance
Speaker 2: looking days of my life. It was kind of chilly
Speaker 2: in there. I felt like I felt like a frozen raisin. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I was just giggling at myself every time I
Speaker 2: look back at the pictures.
Speaker 1: It was bad. Yeah, it was bad. It was bad.
Speaker 1: I was embarrassed just looking at it myself. It was
Speaker 1: crazy because like you would see like a picture after
Speaker 1: you know, you'd go with the photographer and your your
Speaker 1: wiener would be out and you'd see the picture and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden they'd be like, oh, don't worry,
Speaker 1: we could just cut that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're sitting there worrying because you're like you're
Speaker 2: gonna go tell everyone you know, and then that person
Speaker 2: that's reviewing.
Speaker 1: I requested three degrees in the shoot set. It was
Speaker 1: sixty ten minutes. What kind of dude is Vince will
Speaker 1: fork stud A freak, a dog, a dude's dude, or
Speaker 1: a whiz. I mean, he's a waste.
Speaker 2: He has a lot of intellectual and knowledge of the
Speaker 2: game of football. I mean, he was a smart player.
Speaker 2: That's why he knew that big play that he made
Speaker 2: when we were talking about it versus the Buffalo Bills,
Speaker 2: and he absolutely dominated the receiver on that screen across
Speaker 2: the middle because he saw that play coming. He sniffed
Speaker 2: it out like he was a wizard out there. That's
Speaker 2: how he made majority of his play same with his interceptions.
Speaker 2: He knew the screen was coming.
Speaker 1: He backed off.
Speaker 2: He knew that when he got dropped, he wasn't going
Speaker 2: to just go to the quarterback and get a free sack.
Speaker 2: He knew there must be a different type of play coming. Oh,
Speaker 2: it's going to be a screen or it's a gimmick
Speaker 2: or something. I mean, he was smart, bro, He was
Speaker 2: very smart on that football field, I'm telling you. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: he was a freak for his size, I mean three sixty,
Speaker 2: just the way that he could move, his athletic ability
Speaker 2: kind of a dude's dude as well, with his barbecues. Man,
Speaker 2: inviting the guys over and having that barbecue sauce for everyone.
Speaker 1: He's also a fucking dog. Yeah, he was a dog.
Speaker 1: He was grimy in there. Oh yeah, when you're the
Speaker 1: guy taking the dumble team the whole time, and you
Speaker 1: know you have to go getting six hundred pounds every
Speaker 1: fucking play because he's taking double teams every play, six
Speaker 1: hundred pounds.
Speaker 2: And he would take those double teams and kind of
Speaker 2: just eat those double teams up, he really would, and
Speaker 2: just let that linebacker just free to go in and
Speaker 2: make the place.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a fucking stud atletics. He is, man,
Speaker 1: I mean he could shoot a basketball. I mean he's
Speaker 1: insane thrower of the football. You watch his golf swing,
Speaker 1: You're like, holy fuck, I think he's scratched golf. This
Speaker 1: is a true tough one. Man.
Speaker 2: This is really tough to really categorize and pinpoint Vince
Speaker 2: Wolfork to just one category.
Speaker 1: Man, it's gonna be tough on three. What do you
Speaker 1: expect one?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Man? Hold on, let me keep thinking about this. Man.
Speaker 1: Oh alright, alright, one two three, freuiz ah man oh man,
Speaker 1: I know, man, he is a freaked.
Speaker 2: Though, but he's he's so smart. Man, I'm telling you
Speaker 2: he's a smart football player.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that goes into his freakiness where you think
Speaker 1: a guy that looks like him is smart. He's great.
Speaker 2: He's great in commercials too, like you see him in
Speaker 2: that stove commercials.
Speaker 1: Now, like grilling and all that he's on TV.
Speaker 2: But you also just sit there like smart large gotta
Speaker 2: be smart large guy right now. That, like we said,
Speaker 2: we're categorizing freaks. As you're just looking at someone You're like,
Speaker 2: how can they possibly do that?
Speaker 1: And that size also also like f can we say, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he's a wizard though. Can you agree with that?
Speaker 1: I'm I mean, I always, I mean Bill talking about
Speaker 1: how smart he is a football player instinctive.
Speaker 2: So I do agree he is a freak of nature.
Speaker 2: I mean obviously to be that size, to move, you know,
Speaker 2: to move that well on the football field, take on
Speaker 2: double teams and just squash him. Just the way he
Speaker 2: tackled guys too. They would go right down. There was
Speaker 2: no mistackles by Vince Wallfork when he got your hands on.
Speaker 1: You, no, so he drape you down and he's swallow you.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll try again. Let's do it again. One, two, three,
Speaker 1: freak stamp it. We'll be right back after this quick break.
Speaker 2: I'm feeling pretty good off one beer? Are you actually
Speaker 2: like seventh eighth of a beer?
Speaker 1: Math? Not one beer yet? Math guy? What is our
Speaker 1: next guy?
Speaker 2: Isn't this the guy?
Speaker 1: The next guy isn't the guy that we play with?
Speaker 1: Who do we got? Oh? We got number seventy six
Speaker 1: by Michael By You freak we got? Oh?
Speaker 2: I don't want him to see me, like, don't show that,
Speaker 2: like I just do a picture. I don't want to
Speaker 2: come after me. He's a freak.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a freak. But all right, all right, back
Speaker 1: to Sebastian. I'm gonna have I'm gonna hire Sebastian to
Speaker 1: be my body guy.
Speaker 2: A second round pick and I think two ten, two
Speaker 2: thousand and nine, maybe some Bastian vomber Sebastian v aka
Speaker 2: Sea bass Sea bass kick his assert the clock?
Speaker 1: What does a I have to say about him?
Speaker 2: Bump bump bum Ai. Let's see if AI knows anything
Speaker 2: done shumming people. Sebustan was a prolific offensive tackle for
Speaker 2: the New England Patriots, known for his six eight frame
Speaker 2: and three hundred and twenty pounds of strength.
Speaker 1: Strength, you know, strong if veritall, veritall. It made me
Speaker 1: feel like a dwarf, like a little boy.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I was a little boy out there actually.
Speaker 2: Over his career, he started eighty of his eighty eight
Speaker 2: games that he played, helping the Patriots win two Super Bowls,
Speaker 2: super Bowl forty nine and Super Bowl fifty one.
Speaker 1: Born in Dosseldorf, Germany, Dolf dosl doof.
Speaker 2: Vohmer didn't start playing football until he was fourteen fourteen
Speaker 2: fourteen four yeah one four nine. After retiring in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 2: he became a booming NFL broadcaster in Germany, often acting
Speaker 2: as a Patriots ambassador off the field. He's known for
Speaker 2: his down to earth personality and delicatetion to promoting football
Speaker 2: in his home country and some fun facts real quick.
Speaker 2: Volmer was one a barbecue cookoff in his neighborhood. What
Speaker 2: a fun fact that is?
Speaker 1: Won a barbecue cookoff in his neighborhood. Ai man, Hey,
Speaker 1: I where did you pull that from?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: My he's an avid beekeeper.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's a beekeeper. He ate all his honey,
Speaker 1: He ate all his honey.
Speaker 2: So he's six eight, that is why six a and
Speaker 2: freaking tosses up weight like it's nothing, nothing, nothing, That's
Speaker 2: where I was going. And he once accidentally locked himself
Speaker 2: out of his own house while wearing only his underwear.
Speaker 1: That's on Ai, What the heck?
Speaker 2: I think I love Sebastian even more. That's a Sebastian
Speaker 2: type move though. That's a sea bass move right there.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Seabach, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: He was so large.
Speaker 2: But he was so large and so strong he could
Speaker 2: have probably just lifted up his own house like you
Speaker 2: know Patrick on SpongeBob, how he just lifts up the
Speaker 2: rock in his house and goes And he should have
Speaker 2: just lift up his house like threw it up in
Speaker 2: the air real quick and then went under it, and
Speaker 2: then he would have been fine.
Speaker 5: He lit.
Speaker 1: We all used to live next to each other h
Speaker 1: in that street, Yeah, we did. He could definitely probably
Speaker 1: lift that house up. What was the name of that
Speaker 1: street again, was it Chay Lane? I was Shae Lane.
Speaker 2: I was at a bashroom with Shae Lane and then
Speaker 2: you were pacing, but you were like half half a
Speaker 2: mile if that away from us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a bike right away. Yeah, bike ride
Speaker 1: freaking Sea Bass. We were drafting the same draft he was.
Speaker 1: He was such a big dude and he was he
Speaker 1: was always really smart, Like he always had really great
Speaker 1: questions to like Scarnako or Josh. I just remember him
Speaker 1: always being able to like, hey, coach, but what if
Speaker 1: this happens on this and we're in this? You know,
Speaker 1: like he had a really outgoing thought process of the
Speaker 1: game for someone who never grew up around the game
Speaker 1: m hm or like really or really knew the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he like, how do he's he was playing at fourteen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you could start playing at fourteen, which is different than
Speaker 1: kids that start playing in fourteen here, but it was
Speaker 1: so natural here.
Speaker 2: Also, when he was playing at fourteen, it wasn't like
Speaker 2: real football. He was playing what league was that? The
Speaker 2: club it was, Yeah, it was like some type of
Speaker 2: club football. Wasn't the same rules, it wasn't the same schemes,
Speaker 2: none of that. I mean, there was some similarities of
Speaker 2: the league that he was playing in when he started
Speaker 2: playing football, but it was nothing like American football.
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: So where he go to university, It was to Houston
Speaker 2: where he had a pretty solid career there. And then
Speaker 2: the way he got to the Patriots, I'm pretty sure,
Speaker 2: like the newing of Patriots, they were looking for an
Speaker 2: offensive tackle at the time, you know, to start for
Speaker 2: them or just about and uh yeah, And I'm pretty
Speaker 2: sure he played in the East West Game after being
Speaker 2: you know, in college at the University of Houston, and
Speaker 2: that's when he really got scouted by the Patriots. And
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure the Patriots and Dante Scarnaccio one of
Speaker 2: the best offensive line coaches in the history history of
Speaker 2: the game, no doubt about that. I mean, he's the
Speaker 2: reason to a lot of our success in New England.
Speaker 2: And what's wild is like he's tiny, Like you know,
Speaker 2: offensive line coaches are usually offensive lineman beforehand, like Dante
Speaker 2: Scarnakia demanded a room. He was older, like seventy five
Speaker 2: seventies what five ten, one hundred and eighty pounds, and
Speaker 2: he just lined up his offensive lineman like a drill
Speaker 2: sergeant and just control.
Speaker 1: Them like unbelievable. I remember the first day of rookie camp,
Speaker 1: Scar yelling at Sea Bass saying something like, you guys,
Speaker 1: you fat pieces shit better start running.
Speaker 4: Well, you guys are out here bouncing around this league
Speaker 4: for five six years. I'm gonna you have to work
Speaker 4: at Walmart because I'm like, get fired for not getting
Speaker 4: you to be able to play.
Speaker 1: It's like the first day of Rookiotis. I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I don't know if he was going to
Speaker 1: Sea Bastard. I was like, that was my welcome to
Speaker 1: the NFL moment, Like holy shit.
Speaker 2: And then they scouted Sebastian. They had a workout with him.
Speaker 2: I mean I saw I think he did. He did
Speaker 2: his pro day and he put him through a workout
Speaker 2: and he said that, you know, Sebastian was smart. He
Speaker 2: did everything that he was told. He picked up on everything.
Speaker 2: He picked up on the schemes right of way. It's
Speaker 2: just showing how smart he was. And and then he
Speaker 2: also talked about how Sebastian learned the English language.
Speaker 1: How was that? And that was just watching American flicks,
Speaker 1: American TV, American TV.
Speaker 2: Man, I watched German TV, and my eyes are going
Speaker 2: to space faster than Michael Strahan went to space. This
Speaker 2: guy learned How's English?
Speaker 1: How did you learn English? Oh, just learned it just
Speaker 1: growing up, just did. I was around it a lot
Speaker 1: as a kid, being around my mom, my dad, my
Speaker 1: brother's friend. And who is your first word? Mama? Mama?
Speaker 1: But it was baba mama. I wonder what Sebastian's first
Speaker 1: word was, because it's not mama, that's English. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: do you think it was? It's probably like uh oma,
Speaker 1: ohma omah's grandma and like German.
Speaker 2: Oh. You want to know what Bill Belichick once said
Speaker 2: too about Sebastian Vollmer. What do you say is that
Speaker 2: when Sebastian would utter things underneath.
Speaker 1: His breath in German or something, yeah, in German.
Speaker 2: Yes, he knew that it was never good.
Speaker 1: He knew it was never good. That's a that's a
Speaker 1: great observation, Coach Belichick's. That's called scouting right there.
Speaker 2: Sebastian was athletic, great. Hey, I'm scouting Sebastian right now. Okay,
Speaker 2: I know you're getting excited. He's athletic, great size, he
Speaker 2: was light on his feet, He has thirty six to
Speaker 2: thirty eight inch arms, depending on the workout that he
Speaker 2: did that day. He's thick every where, dude. I'm telling you,
Speaker 2: he's thick, his CAFs, his squads, forearms, bice triiceps, abs.
Speaker 2: See like he's thick. It's like he almost had a
Speaker 2: six pack, but he didn't because he was so big.
Speaker 2: But he dick like thick boy man.
Speaker 1: But he wasn't like fat, No, he wasn't always Well
Speaker 1: now he's like a bodybuilder. He's shredded. He looks so
Speaker 1: good right now. It looks like a tight end. He
Speaker 1: looks like he Van dam was like six foot eight.
Speaker 1: He's that ripped right now. He's got good feet. He
Speaker 1: always had good feet. He was always on balance.
Speaker 2: I was working out with him, O'Brian's yeah, yeah, aps, yes,
Speaker 2: aps my going into my second year in the league
Speaker 2: during the lockout, at the NFL lockout, we would always
Speaker 2: be working out there. I just remember him working out
Speaker 2: and like I was just amazed how strong he was.
Speaker 2: He took one hundred and forty pound dumbbell, just went
Speaker 2: right on the bench, grab the other one just like this,
Speaker 2: that easy, and just started tossing it up for a
Speaker 2: set of ten, one hundred and forty pound dumbells for
Speaker 2: a set of ten, like it was nothing.
Speaker 1: The Gumans have particular beard that makes them very strong.
Speaker 2: Well, then let me keep drinking jewels because I want
Speaker 2: to be very strong like Sebastian.
Speaker 1: And if he was drinking beer to make him strong,
Speaker 1: I need another beer. Fill me up, please, I already
Speaker 1: had one. I want one more. I got you, well,
Speaker 1: you filled me up.
Speaker 2: How about the time when Coach Belichick put him out
Speaker 2: there and he's told Sebastian Vollmer, hey, if you catch
Speaker 2: his punt.
Speaker 1: He was dune for today, everyone's off practice. Hey, that's
Speaker 1: all meetings. What happened? What happened?
Speaker 2: What did Sebastian do?
Speaker 1: He caught a punt? He gave us training camp. That
Speaker 1: was early in our career.
Speaker 2: It was that was my I think my rookie year
Speaker 2: or my second year in the league. I think it
Speaker 2: was my second year. But that was great. See Bass,
Speaker 2: Thank you for coming through. I'll remember it, you know,
Speaker 2: for the rest of my life that you got me
Speaker 2: off meetings that night. Thank you, amen, because those meetings
Speaker 2: are way too long.
Speaker 1: His first start in two thousand and nine was the
Speaker 1: was that Tennessee Titans game where it snowed in like
Speaker 1: October fifteenth or something like that. He was replacing Matt
Speaker 1: Light who was starting. I think he got banged up.
Speaker 1: We didn't give up a sack like it was his
Speaker 1: first game in pressure was on young football player from
Speaker 1: Germany and helps give up zero sacks and we blew
Speaker 1: out the Tennessee Titans that like nothing. It was fifty
Speaker 1: nine nothing.
Speaker 2: You I know why you guys, you know won that
Speaker 2: game fifty nine nothing and why Tom threw like eight
Speaker 2: touchdown passes in the first quarter because he was very
Speaker 2: comfortable as Sebastian Volmer was his left tackle.
Speaker 1: He was comfortable. He was just like we were all comfortable.
Speaker 1: When Coach Belichick said, hey, Sebastian Volmer, if you catch
Speaker 1: this punt right here on this windy day at training camp,
Speaker 1: when we've been running you guys for fifteen straight days
Speaker 1: into the ground, not a day off, full pads twice
Speaker 1: a day. If you catch his punt, I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you guys meetings off tonight, but we will have practice tomorrow.
Speaker 1: But you guys will have meetings off tonight. And what
Speaker 1: do you do. He caught the punt, We didn't have meetings.
Speaker 1: He caught the punt so I could go home and
Speaker 1: do this quick.
Speaker 2: We got to give him a little bit more credit
Speaker 2: in his broadcasting career because he has made a name
Speaker 2: for himself in the country of Germany because he's bringing
Speaker 2: the game and a lot of awareness of American football
Speaker 2: and bringing it over and he's doing a great job
Speaker 2: to translate it. I see a lot of things he
Speaker 2: translates English to uh Germany to help people in that
Speaker 2: country understand the game. So he's doing a great job
Speaker 2: expanding and have an unbelievable role like that.
Speaker 1: Without doubt, he's making the game bigger. He probably loves
Speaker 1: his home country. He does, and he loves football, and
Speaker 1: it's great for him to be able to share the
Speaker 1: game that he's loved with the people that where he's from.
Speaker 1: That's like some beautiful stuff.
Speaker 2: It's beautiful, like like Europe. It is beautiful like Poland. Actually,
Speaker 2: Poland's beautiful, and that's why, you know, Sebastian is so
Speaker 2: beautiful as well, because Poland's right near Germany.
Speaker 1: It might connect, but I don't think it does.
Speaker 5: I think they touch the touch. That's why we just
Speaker 5: just sympathize for each other. And we have so much
Speaker 5: connection because I'm a Pollock, he's German, and we just
Speaker 5: we just have that you know, tightness. We feel each other.
Speaker 5: We understand each other, and he's just a good guy.
Speaker 5: I'm a good guy, and I'm just gonna keep drinking
Speaker 5: and just keep getting emotional because I'm blacked out.
Speaker 1: It's a beer and a half jewels time. All right,
Speaker 1: all right? What is he? You are already? You're ady?
Speaker 1: I just broke out of ours. You're in it. I
Speaker 1: was in it. What kind of dude is Sebastian Bohmer?
Speaker 2: Is he?
Speaker 1: I mean, he is pretty studley if you think about it.
Speaker 1: A guy that came from he's probably one of the
Speaker 1: badass dudes from his country, never played our country's most
Speaker 1: famous sport, most popular sport, and comes in and becomes
Speaker 1: a fucking damn good football player. All right, on on three,
Speaker 1: you say what you think he is. I'll say what
Speaker 1: I think he is, all right, one? Two, three? Whiz, yeah, baby,
Speaker 1: give me some, give me some. Obviously, probably we know him,
Speaker 1: we played with them, so we're gonna be on the
Speaker 1: same page of what he is. I mean, he's definitely
Speaker 1: a whiz if you think about it, to be able
Speaker 1: to come out out of high school from Germany, to
Speaker 1: go to a university in America and play American football,
Speaker 1: learn the language, through TV be as smart as he
Speaker 1: was on the field. You never saw emmy from Sebastian
Speaker 1: Bohmer Like he's for sure a whiz clutch catching the
Speaker 1: punt for us to get us the night off of meetings,
Speaker 1: like he was the guy. He's a whiz for sure.
Speaker 1: You said it all, Jules, he said it all. Here's
Speaker 1: a whiz guy.
Speaker 2: Smiders can be picked up the scheme stop one of
Speaker 2: the hardest blocking schemes and all football.
Speaker 1: Just like that. I think he picked up English better
Speaker 1: than you and I speak it. No, he sure has,
Speaker 1: and if you ask him he would agree that. He
Speaker 1: definitely would. I love him too, But they cuckoo, cuckoo.
Speaker 1: That's what he was say. Is everybody casey, I love them,
Speaker 1: I love them. Oh we love you. Bathroom. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get into our our last Halloween edition of New
Speaker 1: Tonguans guy that we are going to talk about. You
Speaker 1: know what, I'm looking at this and it's pretty gnarly
Speaker 1: m that everyone of the scariest guys that we're going
Speaker 1: over is from the AFC. Fucking North, another Kent State
Speaker 1: golden flash. Another man that scares the living ship out
Speaker 1: of you. He sure does. His name is Debo, but
Speaker 1: his birth name is James Harrison.
Speaker 2: James Henry Harrison Junior Hank.
Speaker 1: I will not call him that to his face. He'll
Speaker 1: I've seen him doing that volleyball ship. What is up?
Speaker 1: What's you a A? I asked to say, alright, AI
Speaker 1: for James Hank, I was probably too scared the second
Speaker 1: Holy smokes, Oh that's blank A. I was scared. AI
Speaker 1: is fucking scared. I'm scared. Did not want to get
Speaker 1: it wrong. Start the claw.
Speaker 2: Now now, James Harrison. James Harrison was a tenicious and
Speaker 2: a hard hitting linebacker. Tenacious, thank you, Joe, got you.
Speaker 1: I'm Harry.
Speaker 2: You know I didn't read any bucks growing up, okay,
Speaker 2: you know? And a hard hitting linebacker now for his
Speaker 2: relentless work ethic and physical style of play. Off the field,
Speaker 2: he was dedicated and resilient, overcoming numerous setbacks to achieve success.
Speaker 2: Harrison had a significant impact on the Pittsburgh Steeers on
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers, helping them win two Super Bowls and
Speaker 2: earning the NFL Defensive Player of the Year award in
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight Jesus. Notably, He's set a then
Speaker 2: Steelers single season record with sixteen sacks in two thousand
Speaker 2: and eight and is the only undrafted player to win
Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year award. He was also a
Speaker 2: five time Pro Bowler and twice named the Steelers MVP.
Speaker 1: He should have been a Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Santonio home tapping catch and the game. They
Speaker 2: should give out like two MVP's award, a defensive MVP
Speaker 2: if deserved, and then an MVP award as well, or
Speaker 2: an MVP award. And if it was a defensive guy,
Speaker 2: then if someone played on the offensive side, you know,
Speaker 2: on the offense side of the ball, very well, they
Speaker 2: should also.
Speaker 1: Have the offensive MVP. You know what I mean? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying by that. Yeah, they can get
Speaker 1: they can get a better sponsorship group out of the
Speaker 1: NFL too. If they did that, you could have you know,
Speaker 1: Chevy for you know, the offense and forward for the defense. Ah,
Speaker 1: we're not business guys. Debo. Hey, Lyd, you're smarter than
Speaker 1: I thought. Carry Your hands are freezing. James Harrison absolute
Speaker 1: scary motherfucker. Like he's look at him. You look at
Speaker 1: his pictures. It's like one degree outside. He's got his
Speaker 1: shirt off and his baggy ass sweats doing a pregame
Speaker 1: warm up, looking like he wants to just I fucking
Speaker 1: kill every single person on the other side of the team.
Speaker 1: Like we played against him and he's got a notion
Speaker 1: and it's so fucking crazy that he didn't get drafted
Speaker 1: because he's about six feet tall, but he's also six
Speaker 1: feet wide. This guy is a fucking fridge his I've
Speaker 1: never his arms are literally like thirty inches big. I
Speaker 1: remember he came and played with us in seventeen. It
Speaker 1: literally when he would walk in the locker room, it
Speaker 1: felt like the scene in Friday when Deebo would roll.
Speaker 1: Everyone would put their chains away, and he was like
Speaker 1: a nice guy, but he just had that scary great guy,
Speaker 1: scary aorr about him. We're like, no, hey, oh shit,
Speaker 1: what's up. No one wanted to joke with him because
Speaker 1: he didn't know if he was gonna take it or
Speaker 1: if he could be joked with. But he was honestly
Speaker 1: a great teammate for that one year, and he's made
Speaker 1: so many incredible fucking plays in his career, Like it's insane.
Speaker 1: Have you seen him do the shot put? Nah? I
Speaker 1: never seen. He's I guess he's a huge fucking shotputter,
Speaker 1: Like he's a fuck. I love him. I absolutely loved him.
Speaker 1: I remember when he played that game in two thousand
Speaker 1: and eight. I was at Kent State the super Bowl
Speaker 1: where he had that big hundred yard run in the
Speaker 1: super Bowl, and I was just so excited to see
Speaker 1: a guy like him, you know, dominating the NFL from
Speaker 1: where I came from. I mean, it was It's crazy.
Speaker 1: Was Primes James Harrison faster than you? Yes?
Speaker 2: Was he?
Speaker 1: Yes? I'm not going to say he wasn't.
Speaker 2: To think about that. And I was like, wait, if
Speaker 2: I am faster than him, I should not say I
Speaker 2: was faster. It's like that's like me saying I'm stronger
Speaker 2: than him as well, which obviously I am not stronger
Speaker 2: than James Harrison.
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone is.
Speaker 2: But I'm going to talk a little football, you know,
Speaker 2: a little technician on the football field here. I mean
Speaker 2: in the blocking aspect of the game and who you're
Speaker 2: going versus, what type of guy you're going verse, what
Speaker 2: type of player you're going verse, who you're going verse,
Speaker 2: Because in the NFL, you scout the player you're going verse,
Speaker 2: you scot him. You see what type of player they are.
Speaker 2: You see how they react to you know, the type
Speaker 2: of blocks that they're receiving and all that good stuff.
Speaker 2: In what size he is, what height the defender is
Speaker 2: that you're going verse, You get in his chest, you
Speaker 2: throw your shoulder, so many different techniques depending on who
Speaker 2: you're going verse. And I love blocking a guy that's
Speaker 2: like six ' five my height who stands up, because
Speaker 2: then I can get in his chest driving backwards. And
Speaker 2: a guy that doesn't have that mean look, that mean attitude,
Speaker 2: and a guy that's not going to get pissed off
Speaker 2: because I came flying off the ball and absolutely drilled
Speaker 2: him and drove him back five yards and embarrass him.
Speaker 2: That was the last thing I was trying to do
Speaker 2: with James Harrison.
Speaker 1: Well, we're trying to do James.
Speaker 2: First off, with James, I knew I couldn't get into
Speaker 2: his chest. The guy is like a bowling ball, Like
Speaker 2: you know that twenty eight pound bowling ball that everyone
Speaker 2: wants to throw down the freaking lane and just trying
Speaker 2: to knock down all the pins and like you kind
Speaker 2: of like do a granny.
Speaker 1: Style and so heavy you blow out your back.
Speaker 2: Well, those are the hardest guys to block in the NFL,
Speaker 2: especially at my size six foot six, you know, it's
Speaker 2: hard for me to get low. It's hard for me
Speaker 2: to move that type of guy because they have so
Speaker 2: much leverage built in pad level. Yes, exactly, that's what
Speaker 2: he has. And with a guy like that and how
Speaker 2: scary and intimidating he was, and I see it on film,
Speaker 2: you do not want to piss James Harrison on why
Speaker 2: what did you see on Yes?
Speaker 1: What do you see on film? What do you mean?
Speaker 1: What do you see on film?
Speaker 2: I seen him take defenders, offensive lineman, toss him. I
Speaker 2: seen him absolutely level defenders and put him out of
Speaker 2: the game with a concussion.
Speaker 1: Dude, he knocked out Josh Cribas, one of his teammates
Speaker 1: from college, but literally knock his ass out.
Speaker 2: So therefore, when I'm blocking him, it's a guy that
Speaker 2: you just kind of want to get in his way.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to come off the ball and crush
Speaker 2: his skull. I'm not trying to do that because if
Speaker 2: I piss him off, you know, if I hit him
Speaker 2: hired and I trigger him, man, I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 2: he's gonna pick me up and throw me the next place.
Speaker 2: So I never wanted to trigger him. I always just
Speaker 2: try to get in his way, you know, with my shoulder,
Speaker 2: with my hands. So then when the running back came
Speaker 2: around and you try to make a play, you know,
Speaker 2: just get in his way again, you know, so he.
Speaker 1: Could you feel his strength.
Speaker 2: I could feel his strength, because then if I started
Speaker 2: going strength for strength, that's when I lose, no doubt
Speaker 2: about it, that's when I lose the block versus a
Speaker 2: guy like that and leverage. So every time I just
Speaker 2: try to just kind of play paddy kick, you know,
Speaker 2: try to let him absorb me. So if I did
Speaker 2: fly off the ball, he would fly off the ball too,
Speaker 2: and then I would go backwards and he would have
Speaker 2: that separation pass. So I just try to stick on
Speaker 2: him like a like a sponge, you know. Uh, And
Speaker 2: just always didn't let him out of my rear view mirror,
Speaker 2: just always staying in front of him, never trying to
Speaker 2: piss them off, never trying to give him a cheap shot.
Speaker 2: That was the way I blocked James Harrison, And it
Speaker 2: was a whole different style when you go versus a
Speaker 2: player like him.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. See we're here talking about like Rob's Rob
Speaker 1: used to block the biggest battest to on the defensive line.
Speaker 1: That's fucking nuts. You know, it's rarely seen, you know,
Speaker 1: a matchup with the tight end and the nine technique
Speaker 1: fucking d end or what you know, the outside linebacker
Speaker 1: that's playing down like that doesn't that's usually at the
Speaker 1: point of attack a lot of times, is it. Do
Speaker 1: you watch that film?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you always want to get the tackle on those guys.
Speaker 2: But when you have a tight end in that situation
Speaker 2: that's willing to do it, willing to get there to
Speaker 2: the that's what expands your offense. That expands the run game,
Speaker 2: that's what expands the play action game as well. And
Speaker 2: I kind of use that to my advantage and that's
Speaker 2: actually what helped me get open plenty of time on
Speaker 2: the play actions when the linebacker step up because they thought,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm coming out the block. But James Harrison
Speaker 2: was a terrifying pocket pressure player. He got so low
Speaker 2: his shoulder like, yeah, he would have that shoulder dip
Speaker 2: and he would just get right off of the tackle,
Speaker 2: even though the offensive tackles twice his size, kind of
Speaker 2: like it looks like twice his hype.
Speaker 1: But he would get right underneath him. And he was
Speaker 1: so strong.
Speaker 2: He would just rip through right through his arm and
Speaker 2: then get to the quarterback. And he was quick enough
Speaker 2: to take kind of an outside angle. Run the hump, Yeah,
Speaker 2: run the hump, and then bolt right to the court.
Speaker 1: Also would have a great change up where he would
Speaker 1: just use his strength. He get right up in that
Speaker 1: chest of that guy who's about eight inches taller than them,
Speaker 1: and push his ass right back into the pocket and
Speaker 1: blow up the quarterback.
Speaker 2: And that's the exact leverage I was talking about. And
Speaker 2: that's why I didn't go toe to toe with him
Speaker 2: right off the line, because he would get that leverage
Speaker 2: and he push me back. So I would just try
Speaker 2: to stay on him and not let him get that
Speaker 2: force to you know, to be able to push me back.
Speaker 2: So just being a smart player.
Speaker 1: Have you seen his workout videos.
Speaker 2: His workout videos are freaking ridiculous. He has like eight
Speaker 2: forty fives on each side when he's freaking benching like
Speaker 2: five hundred, like fifty five und you see it does
Speaker 2: It's just ridiculous.
Speaker 1: His conditioning, he gets like a thirty pound or a
Speaker 1: forty pound medicine ball and he plays volleyball with it
Speaker 1: where you have to catch it in the house, saying
Speaker 1: that that that's hard. People don't realize that's hard. That's heavyweight.
Speaker 1: And he does it for a long round. Like it's
Speaker 1: so fun to watch his workouts because he does like
Speaker 1: some world's strongest man shit all the time, or like
Speaker 1: you have like a boulder he's pushing, or he's fucking
Speaker 1: pulling a goddamn car or throwing fucking rocks that are
Speaker 1: like nine hundred pounds. Like he's just a he's a
Speaker 1: cool dude man. And the one thing about it, the
Speaker 1: one thing would you agree, does his voice not match
Speaker 1: his body? I think it does match his boy it does.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's like a low scary voice. It's
Speaker 1: not as low as you expect. Yeah, so I don't
Speaker 1: think it like you would think with that guy. He's like,
Speaker 1: are you doing you? Yeah, you're expecting that low. It's
Speaker 1: kind of it's not high though, No, it's not high.
Speaker 1: It's kind of a James. I'm not saying you have
Speaker 1: a high but which is kind of good because imagine
Speaker 1: if it was that low, it would be like even scarier. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I remember, remember he remember he gave it. I
Speaker 1: got one of his shirts. Remember, he had the Deebo
Speaker 1: shirt in the locker room. I still have the Deebo's
Speaker 1: shirt somewhere here. He's he's like he can lift like whatever,
Speaker 1: six hundred pounds. Ben squat that lift.
Speaker 2: But what I love about him is that he always
Speaker 2: posts his regime of you know, recovering, of how he
Speaker 2: recovers off of those lists how he was recovering in
Speaker 2: the NFL, and he would put like three hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty acupuncture needles and every day, like every other day,
Speaker 2: and he posts about it like you gotta be a freak.
Speaker 2: You gotta be intense in order to get three hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty needles poked inside of your muscle tissue and
Speaker 2: just take it like an absolute champ. Like that just
Speaker 2: shows he that just shows like he's dedicated, like he's
Speaker 2: doing whatever it takes to be at that level that
Speaker 2: he needs to be at.
Speaker 1: Who is the mount Rushmore? Of the strongest guys we
Speaker 1: played with, you think.
Speaker 2: I would say Sebastian Volmer left tackle was Vince Wilfork.
Speaker 2: He was super strong, strong, He didn't really have to
Speaker 2: even like work out that much. He would just walk
Speaker 2: in the weight room and toss up like five hundred
Speaker 2: pounds in the bench.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Marcus Cannon was a strong guy. Saw the squatting world.
Speaker 1: I never I remember. Canon would be squatting and there'd
Speaker 1: be fifteen fucking forty five and the thing would be bouncing.
Speaker 1: I swear I think he had like twelve forty five's
Speaker 1: on each side, remember that, And now the bar would
Speaker 1: be it'd be bouncing like it was a fucking cute
Speaker 1: tip with fucking rocks on. It's like it was.
Speaker 2: That was good inmitation right there.
Speaker 1: And then Brandon Bolden for pound for pound. Bolden didn't
Speaker 1: even work out. He was like, but he pound for
Speaker 1: pound when we do all those Like my gosh.
Speaker 2: I wasn't saying like that was a bad thing, that
Speaker 2: work out. He didn't need to work out. And I'm like, dude,
Speaker 2: how are you so strong? And rip He's like, yo,
Speaker 2: I carry my kids around and I'm like, I'm like, dang,
Speaker 2: I gotta start having kids. I gotta start having kids.
Speaker 2: And I still haven't started. And this is eight years later.
Speaker 2: What I would still be playing if I attend kids.
Speaker 1: He would always do those. Remember we'd always have to
Speaker 1: do those explosion recordings for some certain things like the Kaisers,
Speaker 1: and he would always be the absolute He blow people
Speaker 1: out by a thousand points because he was just so
Speaker 1: explosive strong. I'd say that's probably our Mount Rushmore. Yes,
Speaker 1: his last Kent State game, you know, he sacked five
Speaker 1: times Miami of Ohio. Oh big Ben his fucking teammate,
Speaker 1: and no one's off limits, No one is off limits.
Speaker 1: We saw what he did to Josh Cribs when he
Speaker 1: was in a Browns uniform. We saw what he did
Speaker 1: to Ben Roethlisberger when he was in a Miami with
Speaker 1: Ohio uniform. Like he is fucking Freddy Krueger bro This
Speaker 1: is how I mean, this is the perfect guy to
Speaker 1: have on the goddamn Halloween episode.
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, we're talking about his you know, defensive
Speaker 2: skill set and all that, but what about every time
Speaker 2: he had an interception he always almost like brought that
Speaker 2: ball back to the house. Obviously with one of the
Speaker 2: biggest Super Bowl plays in history of the one hundred
Speaker 2: yard return versus Arizona Cardinals. And if they scored right
Speaker 2: on that drive, they were saying the game was going
Speaker 2: to be over going into half because the Cardinos had
Speaker 2: that big of a.
Speaker 1: New manager and that much momentum going in.
Speaker 2: But he saved the Steelers that game with that interception
Speaker 2: to the house. It looked like he was about to
Speaker 2: be tackled eight different times, and he just kept going
Speaker 2: and kept going and kept going. He's kind of like
Speaker 2: a fullback mixed with a running back when he's running
Speaker 2: the ball. Think Mike Golsta, Yes, exactly like him.
Speaker 1: He's Mike allstart of the for the side of the ball.
Speaker 1: Did you hear that he's Is he gonna be fighting
Speaker 1: o Jo Cinco?
Speaker 2: He was, Yeah, o Jo Cinkoo First, James Harrison, what
Speaker 2: are you thinking, o Jo Cinko?
Speaker 1: What the Ojo are you thinking? I'll tell you right now.
Speaker 1: O Jo Cinko has got some ball.
Speaker 2: He does have a ball.
Speaker 1: He raced a horse. He's fought a couple of times.
Speaker 1: I mean he's lost all the fights, so has he?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he lost the fight he bought one time.
Speaker 1: To be said about a man that loses a fight
Speaker 1: and keeps coming back. He keeps coming back. Oh, Joe Senko,
Speaker 1: don't back down. He does it now, he doesn't. What
Speaker 1: is he thinking? What is he thinking? I don't is
Speaker 1: it it's UFC right, it's in May style? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean the only way you would have to fight James
Speaker 1: Harrison is you can box him. If he couldn't bring
Speaker 1: you down.
Speaker 2: O Jo Cinko is six to one, one hundred and
Speaker 2: ninety pounds about I would say.
Speaker 1: He's got it.
Speaker 2: He's probably like, yeah, he lost a Brian Maxwell in
Speaker 2: a boxing match.
Speaker 1: He yeah, it wasn't. I'm not saying they probably beat
Speaker 1: the ship out of me, but I'm not fucking James Harrison.
Speaker 1: James Harrison is a scary man.
Speaker 2: Should we go, we should go? I gotta, I gotta
Speaker 2: what if scenario? Do you think we can beat James
Speaker 2: Harrison if we tag team versus if.
Speaker 1: You mean if we tag team James Harrison? No, No,
Speaker 1: like you and I versus James Harrison. Uh, I don't. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I really don't know. And I can center myself a
Speaker 1: tough guy, but and I consider you a large tough
Speaker 1: human as well. We would have to game plan. We'd
Speaker 1: have to. You have to game plan because you know,
Speaker 1: the Steelers do what they do. They do do they
Speaker 1: what they do, They do what they do, they do
Speaker 1: what they do, they do it very well. But they
Speaker 1: do what they do what they do, and they don't adjust.
Speaker 1: They don't adjust you what they do, and they do.
Speaker 1: We'd have to play James Harrison for that fight time,
Speaker 1: all right, But what kind of dude is James Harrison? Okay?
Speaker 1: I have I have two that I think he is.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think he's a dude's dude, no one's.
Speaker 1: I played with him and he was kind of a
Speaker 1: dude's dude. But I was too scared of him the
Speaker 1: whole time for him to me think that he was
Speaker 1: a dude's dude. The freak he's I mean, he's either
Speaker 1: a freak or dog to me, you know it. And
Speaker 1: I think it's a crazy thing that if he's a freak,
Speaker 1: that he was an undrafted freak, that's probably a stat
Speaker 1: that will never say again. And that's freaky.
Speaker 2: I mean he is a freak for sure. I would
Speaker 2: not disagree with a freaking.
Speaker 1: He has dog in him.
Speaker 2: There's no doubt he's a relentless dog. He's a dog
Speaker 2: that's a pit bull. He's just never going to stop.
Speaker 2: It's the pit bull that's John trained, Yeah, that has
Speaker 2: the locked daw and just never letting go until that
Speaker 2: yaw finally gets tired after Like you gotta put him down.
Speaker 2: I think to put him down, basically, you got to
Speaker 2: kill him. But he's also freak with that interception and
Speaker 2: the stride. His stride when he's running, yeah, is ridiculous.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's freaky to have a stride like that
Speaker 2: at that size, with that much mass, and to be
Speaker 2: able to run like that, that's freaky. That's freaky.
Speaker 1: Tangibles, dude, No one. They say he's six foot, the
Speaker 1: dude's five to eleven. He maybe five to ten. He
Speaker 1: bout my height and he's two sixty and he runs
Speaker 1: just as fast as me. Okay, if you want to
Speaker 1: call that not a freak, you're fucking crazy. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: are crazy. Then he a freak. Freak.
Speaker 2: He's a freak. James Harrison freak stamp it.
Speaker 1: What does AI have to say?
Speaker 2: This dude was born on January ninth, nineteen seventy eight,
Speaker 2: and stands at six foot one and weighs one hundred
Speaker 2: and ninety two pounds. He was drafted as a wide
Speaker 2: receiver in the second round of the two thousand and
Speaker 2: one NFL Draft and played wide receiver for the Bengals, Patriots, Dolphins, and.
Speaker 1: The Montreal Alouettes Aluettes.
Speaker 2: He was a four time All Pro and the NFL
Speaker 2: receiving yards leader in two thousand and six. Originally from Miami,
Speaker 2: he played college football for Santa Monica College and Oregon
Speaker 2: State University. Off the field, he's known for flamboyant personality
Speaker 2: and antics, including a name change, reality TV appearances, and
Speaker 2: an act of social media.
Speaker 1: Wow, Jules, who do you think we're talking about? Buddy?
Speaker 1: Let's get on. Chad Ocho Cinco.
Speaker 2: And what's the first thing you think of, Jules when
Speaker 2: you hear the name chad Ocho Sinko Johnson.
Speaker 1: The first thing I think of. One of the wildest
Speaker 1: card moments or wildest moves ever. It was we draft
Speaker 1: or we we traded for Chad and we went into
Speaker 1: the we were installing the offense, and during installation, chadow'
Speaker 1: sha our coach, you know, Chaddio. Yes, he goes all right, guys,
Speaker 1: we got everything. It's all good, you know. Just don't
Speaker 1: be seen. I'm gonna let you out of meetings early.
Speaker 1: Don't be seen. We still have a team meeting. Don't
Speaker 1: be seen. We have a team meeting.
Speaker 2: So clear this up. You got a lot of meetings early,
Speaker 2: but we have a team meeting.
Speaker 1: Still we still had a meeting after so we had
Speaker 1: like an hour and a half for a meeting until
Speaker 1: the next meeting. But Chad had to get some shit
Speaker 1: done alright, We got everything installed. We had a pretty
Speaker 1: smart room, and so he let us out early. Well,
Speaker 1: Chad thought it was smart. And this is Chad's like
Speaker 1: first couple weeks there, he thought it was be smart
Speaker 1: to leave the facility and on the way out poke
Speaker 1: his head into Bill's office and asked if he wanted
Speaker 1: anything from Starbucks.
Speaker 2: And and so that's wild, that is what what did
Speaker 2: he think it meant to not be seen, like to
Speaker 2: not go on it, I don't know, to not post
Speaker 2: a picture online.
Speaker 1: I think he was just new and he's still trying
Speaker 1: to be friendly in the whole thing. But like it
Speaker 1: was a total accident, total accident. And then you know,
Speaker 1: the next time we had a receiver meeting in the room,
Speaker 1: Osha was like, fucking guy, he got ripped a new
Speaker 1: asshole because you know, what are you doing let guys
Speaker 1: out early? This that it just was a whole thing,
Speaker 1: just a wild like he didn't he didn't understand. But
Speaker 1: that's what I thought of, Like, man, Chad's crazy. The
Speaker 1: whole kiss, the baby thing, the whole every it's real.
Speaker 1: He just he just goes off of what he feels,
Speaker 1: off of his instincts. What do you think of when
Speaker 1: you think of Ocho? Well, first off, the name change.
Speaker 1: You gotta love it.
Speaker 2: He was one of the most entertaining players you know,
Speaker 2: in our generation while we were growing up. Yeah, for sure,
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals, that's for sure. I truly believe he's a
Speaker 2: Bengal for life. He played for a couple other teams after,
Speaker 2: but one hundred percent Bengal for life. He kind of
Speaker 2: put that wide receiver you know position on the map
Speaker 2: in that era to continue the streak going of you know,
Speaker 2: of being kind of you know, spontaneous, entertaining, entertaining, a
Speaker 2: little bit of drama as well, but also so good
Speaker 2: at the game of football that he can pull it
Speaker 2: off and you know, not be a problem child at
Speaker 2: all in some cases I would say possibly, but just overall,
Speaker 2: he was so good at the game of football. He
Speaker 2: was so quick that he could pull off all that
Speaker 2: dancing that he was doing, He can pull off all
Speaker 2: that trash talk that he was doing. He could pull
Speaker 2: off all those antics off the field during the offseason
Speaker 2: that he was doing, you know, playing soccer with the
Speaker 2: MLS teams, kicking extra points as well during the preseason games.
Speaker 2: I mean, this guy had talent, and he had so
Speaker 2: much talent that he could be a wild card dude
Speaker 2: whenever he wanted because of that type of talent that
Speaker 2: he had. And you got to appreciate that as well,
Speaker 2: because it's just cool man to see just someone be himselves.
Speaker 1: That's who he is. You know.
Speaker 2: It's not like he was doing it for a show,
Speaker 2: which it was a show, but he was truly doing
Speaker 2: it because that's just how he was born.
Speaker 1: And you got to respect that aspect of his game
Speaker 1: of who he is. He was like the first guy
Speaker 1: with a million followers on Twitter in the NFL.
Speaker 2: I think Tom absolutely hated that he was on Twitter
Speaker 2: because he was mister Twitter. He had like three million followers.
Speaker 2: The second highest person was like two hundred thousand in
Speaker 2: the NFL. And this is in twenty twelve. He got
Speaker 2: traded to the New England Patriots, and he's always on
Speaker 2: Twitter still, and Tom and Coach Ballichick were just always
Speaker 2: grilling him like, oh, you get off freaking Twitter. Get
Speaker 2: off Twitter. It doesn't help you in the game of football.
Speaker 2: But it never really like really I would say. What
Speaker 2: am I trying to say affected his game is? Twitter
Speaker 2: was just back then they just acted like it did,
Speaker 2: you know, But we.
Speaker 1: Just did things differently in New England and he didn't.
Speaker 2: He didn't that he didn't comply to it. The funniest
Speaker 2: the point is where I'm getting to is now Tom
Speaker 2: is mister Instagram and and so like our mister X.
Speaker 1: So that was the point I was getting to. Well,
Speaker 1: another thing, it was always known that he loved McDonald's.
Speaker 1: What's your take on that. I mean, it's kind of
Speaker 1: freaky that you could just eat McDonald's still do.
Speaker 2: McDonald's for most of his career, and he also said
Speaker 2: it helped his body, like callous for football, I guess.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's only one guy that could possibly do this.
Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of players that sometimes, you know,
Speaker 2: not sometimes eat fast food. But I'm talking like Chad
Speaker 2: did it on a daily basis, breakfast, lunch, dinner. And
Speaker 2: I saw he went to that corner store right on
Speaker 2: Root one, right next to you. Let's see him. There's
Speaker 2: a McDonald's there.
Speaker 1: It's the half's half, it's half in the McDonald half
Speaker 1: liquor store.
Speaker 2: I think he would go there, and he's always in
Speaker 2: the drive through. And I saw him one time. He
Speaker 2: pulled up and he was eating the h the fish
Speaker 2: filet sandwich.
Speaker 1: I like the fish filet, though. What's your favorite dam McDonald's.
Speaker 2: Uh, the coffee bro They got legit coffee there. I
Speaker 2: don't really eat McDonald's. If I do, I get the
Speaker 2: double cheeseburger and I just take the the patties off
Speaker 2: of the bread and I just eat the smash Hamburger
Speaker 2: patties with the cheese. I don't like to bread smash them.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's safe to just eat the meat.
Speaker 2: You know what about the mcgriddle? Oh breakfast, they got
Speaker 2: legit breakfast sausage pancakes. Oh the pancakes are on fire.
Speaker 2: So I'm a breakfast guy at Mcdonald'syeah, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to really eat you know, their lunch or dinner. No
Speaker 2: big Mac, like if I do get the Big Mac,
Speaker 2: Like I said, I'm just eating the patties only. But
Speaker 2: it's just impressive, though, Chad ate that McDonald's every single day,
Speaker 2: every single day. Body was just some achine. I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess if you get used to it. Your mind
Speaker 2: is just gonna know what to do with that type
Speaker 2: of you know, nutrition. So hats off to Oto.
Speaker 1: Sinks he's crazy. He would like race an him. Didn't
Speaker 1: he race a horse? He doesn't care. He'll fight anyone.
Speaker 1: Chad is, So, what do you think you can beat
Speaker 1: a horse in a race?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No chance? I mean, would you ever race a horse?
Speaker 1: No chance?
Speaker 2: A horse and I have one thing in common, Jules,
Speaker 2: and I'm not gonna tell you what it is. I
Speaker 2: just use your wild imagination. I get to understand. Thank you,
Speaker 2: I understand, thank you. Well, he raced a horse for
Speaker 2: a cherry feed the children. You know, he had one
Speaker 2: hundred meters start and he beat the horse, which you know,
Speaker 2: props to him. He's silly, always just doing silly things.
Speaker 1: Man, He did silly things. But people like when we
Speaker 1: were playing he had elite feet, like his footwork was
Speaker 1: quicker than any one I knew. And we cult him
Speaker 1: on the tail end of his career, and he still
Speaker 1: had some really insanely quick feet where he meaning he
Speaker 1: could get in and out of breaks. For how tall
Speaker 1: he was at six ' one, he was a real
Speaker 1: He was a skinnier guy, but usually when you're six
Speaker 1: to one, it's harder for you to get in and
Speaker 1: out of breaks. But you watch his comebacks, his releases,
Speaker 1: like he was always the separation king to the at
Speaker 1: the top of route, at the beginning of route. He
Speaker 1: was an elite receiver. Now with all the antics and stuff,
Speaker 1: we all remember him that because that's probably because he
Speaker 1: didn't win. But he was a fucking elite receiver that
Speaker 1: had a lot of production for a long time in
Speaker 1: this league. He was so quick.
Speaker 2: He had the best releases in the game as well.
Speaker 2: And like you said, I think he was the quickest play.
Speaker 2: He had the quickest feet in the game of football.
Speaker 2: Was like poppup pup up on He would go side
Speaker 2: to side with it as well. So I'm sure he's
Speaker 2: a great line dancer as well. He won Dancing with
Speaker 2: the Stars, did he fourth came and fourth fourth?
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: There's one thing that's always certain, he said, and that's
Speaker 2: death taxes and eighty five gonna always be open always.
Speaker 2: He got to love him for that, and he was
Speaker 2: always open. Besides, when he got to New England, he
Speaker 2: was he was struggling a little bit there.
Speaker 1: Why do you think he struggled?
Speaker 2: I just think he struggled because, you know, just a
Speaker 2: complicity of the playbook a little bit. I feel like
Speaker 2: he had the freelance to do whatever he wanted to
Speaker 2: do in Cincinnati, and then when he got to New England,
Speaker 2: it was more of a structure like this is what
Speaker 2: you gotta do. This is how you get open. It's
Speaker 2: not like you're gonna be able to just freelance to
Speaker 2: play backyard football. I feel like he played backyard football
Speaker 2: a little bit more with the Cincinnati Bengals. Tom wanted
Speaker 2: it like that, but possibly he wanted to do it
Speaker 2: like that, but he couldn't do it like that because
Speaker 2: Tom wanted it like that. I mean, it just didn't
Speaker 2: really work out to the tea that you know, we
Speaker 2: wanted it to obviously what what coach Belichick wanted to do,
Speaker 2: and as teammates as well. But there's one thing though
Speaker 2: that we know we got blessed with the presence of
Speaker 2: Chain for that whole entire year, and that's what is
Speaker 2: more important is just to be around a great dude
Speaker 2: and just to see, you know, how he carried himself
Speaker 2: to just one of the greatest wide receivers of the game.
Speaker 1: Do you have any stories about Chad.
Speaker 2: We went out to dinner actually during training camp, and
Speaker 2: he was just a great character man.
Speaker 1: I love.
Speaker 2: He always got the waitress wound up, you know, he
Speaker 2: got her wound up, cracking.
Speaker 1: Jokes like you know, where'd you guys go?
Speaker 2: We went Toby Keith's Iron Grill right there at Patriot Place,
Speaker 2: and he would be flirting and then the waitress would
Speaker 2: be flirting back with us, and like, you're just such
Speaker 2: an awe because we were such young bucks. And just
Speaker 2: how he was so spontaneous and so quick with his game,
Speaker 2: like his the way he would speak and and talk
Speaker 2: and have game, it was like his feet were.
Speaker 1: Running his mouth like just that quick, you know.
Speaker 2: And then what's so great about it is like he
Speaker 2: would leave her hanging though, because he would give like
Speaker 2: an outrageous tip to her and then like didn't leave
Speaker 2: his number anything, like he would get the you know,
Speaker 2: he would get the waitress.
Speaker 1: He just gets He's just outgoing. He likes to push
Speaker 1: people buttons, I think.
Speaker 2: Exactly, give her an outrageous tip and then we would
Speaker 2: all just leave and the waitress be like, oh what wait,
Speaker 2: where'd he go?
Speaker 1: Like I didn't get his number or anything. But he
Speaker 1: would just bounce on Chad was so fun. It was fun.
Speaker 1: I also could kick. He had a big soccer background,
Speaker 1: and I think that's probably what helped him with such
Speaker 1: great feet, quick feet that he had. I mean, I
Speaker 1: remember Cincinnati, their kicker got hurt. He kicked a field goal.
Speaker 1: He kicked a couple fields. I think he kicked a
Speaker 1: thirty yarder. He played in soccer leagues. I think he
Speaker 1: tried to play in a professional league at one pain.
Speaker 2: He tried out for the Kansas City MLS team during
Speaker 2: the twenty eleven NFL lockout, and while he was trying
Speaker 2: to do that, I was doing my wild, wild dude shit, Jules.
Speaker 2: I was at the University of Arizona during that lockout,
Speaker 2: and I was at the pool parties, dancing up on
Speaker 2: the on the stage and everything. At the pool parties,
Speaker 2: I was freaking pounding beers and everyone was like, Oh,
Speaker 2: You're gonna be in big trouble by coach Belichick after
Speaker 2: the lockout.
Speaker 1: But what did I do.
Speaker 2: I showed up and I was just as wild out
Speaker 2: on that football field and training camp.
Speaker 1: Baby.
Speaker 2: That was That was my favorite offseason was after my
Speaker 2: rookie year because we didn't have to go in at
Speaker 2: all at all, and I got to be wild as
Speaker 2: possible because I had a little bit of money. I
Speaker 2: was twenty one years old and I was just running
Speaker 2: around college campuses just being an absolute wild maniac. It
Speaker 2: was the greatest offseason of my career, no doubt about that.
Speaker 2: What did you do during the lockout, Jeueles, I just
Speaker 2: told you what I was doing.
Speaker 1: I actually took a couple of classes at Kent. I
Speaker 1: was in LA trained out here. Didn't we have like
Speaker 1: a fucking we had like a couple of team practices
Speaker 1: at BC during the lockoutmember that when we when Brady
Speaker 1: called a couple we did.
Speaker 2: We had about three practices at BC. That was really cool.
Speaker 2: That just shows the leadership of time, just how wild
Speaker 2: of a leader he was. Tom wasn't a wild card.
Speaker 2: He was a wild leader and that that just shows
Speaker 2: you know why he's, you know, one of the actually
Speaker 2: the greatest player to play.
Speaker 1: Could Chad kick the field goal kick of destiny? For
Speaker 1: that you do everywhere? Yeah? One hundred percent, so easy. Yeah.
Speaker 2: He kicked an extra point in the season game, which
Speaker 2: that's a lot harder than kicking the kick of destiny.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't have a line. No one's snapping it.
Speaker 2: The balls just set sitting there on a tee for you.
Speaker 2: And it's easy, just a layup and freaking I missed twice,
Speaker 2: So Chad out, Josinko, I actually need you for the
Speaker 2: kick of destiny. I'm actually not doing it this year,
Speaker 2: but in the future I'll possibly be doing it again.
Speaker 2: So I want Chad o Jo Sinko as my coach
Speaker 2: or my replacement for the kick.
Speaker 1: Of Now what how how far is the kick of destiny? Uh? Oh?
Speaker 1: Twenty five yards? So it's twenty five yards.
Speaker 2: I was kicking it on the fifteen yard line.
Speaker 1: And so how far do you think they would have
Speaker 1: to handicap Chad's kick? Because he can kick it better,
Speaker 1: so we'd have to bring I would say he would
Speaker 1: have to kick a forty yarder. A forty I think
Speaker 1: he got forty easy though.
Speaker 2: I mean, but no, he does it forty easy. But
Speaker 2: that's the point I missed the last two years. So
Speaker 2: we need someone to make it now, okay, And we
Speaker 2: want him to make it as.
Speaker 1: Well for the fans out there and for fan duel
Speaker 1: and for just.
Speaker 2: The kick of destiny. But what about his TD celebrations
Speaker 2: as well. He was one of the best in the game.
Speaker 2: He wore the gold jacket that said future Hall of
Speaker 2: Fame two thousand with two question marks as a post
Speaker 2: touchdown celebration. How about the cheerleader proposal. I actually got
Speaker 2: to take some tips from you because I'm now dating
Speaker 2: a cheerleader. I've been chad ol chosenko. So you proposed
Speaker 2: in the first freaking four seconds you matter, which is
Speaker 2: pretty impressive.
Speaker 1: So call me up.
Speaker 2: I need some tips, brother. And then he was putting
Speaker 2: the football like a damn golf ball as well. When
Speaker 2: he did I never done that, man. My craziest TV
Speaker 2: celebration was just spiking the ball. Or actually when I
Speaker 2: was you know the one in London as well, when
Speaker 2: I did the booty shaking, that was pretty impressive. And
Speaker 2: the soldier I did, yeah, the soldier of guarding the Buckingham.
Speaker 1: Palace Buckingham Palace, well yes, yeah, now he remember he
Speaker 1: didn't he uh? He took the camera once and and
Speaker 1: was filming. This was like the full generation of overly celebrated, crazy,
Speaker 1: get your popcorn ready celebrations by receivers. Remember like Joe
Speaker 1: Horn he was taking cell phones out. You got Chad
Speaker 1: doing everything. Chad's doing t O and his celebrations. I
Speaker 1: mean just this was like the era where they were
Speaker 1: getting fired. They were they were getting penalized for it too.
Speaker 1: They didn't give a they didn't care. But it was
Speaker 1: still fun. You know, that was the No Fun League
Speaker 1: at the time. It was.
Speaker 2: I remember that when everyone was translating NFL as to
Speaker 2: be the No Fun because they kept finding Oo Sinko
Speaker 2: and all the other guys that were being entertaining, you know,
Speaker 2: to the to the fans.
Speaker 1: So James Harrison or Ocho Cinco they're fighting here soon
Speaker 1: super Bowl weekend. Mm A style? Who are you going with?
Speaker 2: It's i'm m a style I'm going with, uh obviously
Speaker 2: James Harrison.
Speaker 1: The thing is that this is how crazy Chad is.
Speaker 1: Why the fuck are you fighting James Harrison? Who I
Speaker 1: think he knocked him out of a game once.
Speaker 2: James Harrison is a freak of nature. He's just gonna
Speaker 2: get a hold of Ocho Cinco and just break him
Speaker 2: in half. This thing thing box O Cho Sinkle is
Speaker 2: gonna have. Yeah, boxing is different story quick. This is
Speaker 2: I'm May Now, this is I'm a May style like
Speaker 2: James can put his hands on him and do whatever
Speaker 2: he wants to do to him.
Speaker 1: James plays volleyball with like eighty pound balls. Remember when
Speaker 1: he throws it over the thing? Yeah, he does, so
Speaker 1: you know he can catch motherfuckers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ocho Sinkle's wild wild. I love it though, keeping
Speaker 2: wild Ojo time, let's go. What kind of dude is
Speaker 2: Chad Ocho Sinko? Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: Joined, dude is chat och Come on now.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't really say freak. I mean his feet were.
Speaker 1: Freaking freaky freaky feet. Yes, dudes, dude, Yeah, he was man.
Speaker 2: He was all about the guys.
Speaker 1: He was.
Speaker 2: He brought us out to dinner. Yeah, he always invites
Speaker 2: knows in New England and invited everyone in the round.
Speaker 2: He was a dude's dude, no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: Whiz whiz.
Speaker 2: I won't really go that far because, like I said,
Speaker 2: I think he struggled with the with our playbook a
Speaker 2: little bittle bit. So did I. I didn't even play
Speaker 2: my rookie year because I didn't know our playbook. It's
Speaker 2: very it's a it's a very tough playbook.
Speaker 1: It's very got a dog in him too. I mean,
Speaker 1: he don't care. He'll he'll freaking challenge anything, anyone to anything,
Speaker 1: I mean, race to a horse. He'll box you. He
Speaker 1: doesn't care. But I think he's I think he's a stud.
Speaker 2: I think he's a stud as well.
Speaker 1: I feel like that feet you know he's doing off
Speaker 1: the field. Now, he's just he's a lovable guy. But
Speaker 1: he was always he always had. He's a stud. To me,
Speaker 1: he is a stud.
Speaker 2: I mean just the way you know he presented himself
Speaker 2: on the field and off the field.
Speaker 1: That's when you know you're Stutley, you know.
Speaker 2: And he was so fast, and he was such a
Speaker 2: stud that he had a race a horse, because horses studs.
Speaker 1: So that makes chat out cha sinko a stud. A
Speaker 1: stud keeps the girl waiting at the bar, yes, like
Speaker 1: like he did, Yes, knows that. You know, he could
Speaker 1: have probably took the little lady on a date, but
Speaker 1: just just did it just to I don't know, he's
Speaker 1: a stud, just to be a stud. On three one
Speaker 1: two three stud. Well, that's been another episode of Dudes
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