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About two years 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:30.280 for you, two years for me, a quarter season for myself, 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:33.360 my rookie year in a quarter for me. But everyone 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:38.120 knows who he is, Randy Freakin' Moss. Please pull the 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:43.959 picture out. Randy Moss was an absolute dominant force on 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:45.640 the football field. I didn't want to put him in 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:49.480 the category right away. I didn't want to describe the category. 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:56.760 But the guy had personality. Everyone loves him to this day. 0:01:57.080 --> 0:02:00.840 He's a great TV. He's on TV TV analyst somehow 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:04.240 awesome on TV. He's mossing people still to this day. 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:06.960 You got what his segment? You got must and you 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:07.960 know who this is? 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.640 Rob You know the shots from No, it's a shot 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:13.240 from This shot is from when he was leaving the 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:15.919 players parking lot, I believe, I think on a Tuesday 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:19.520 after he got fined for mooning Green Bay. Remember he 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:21.600 got fined for moving Green Bay. And this is like 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:25.440 right immediately after when some reporter came up to him said, Raindy, 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:28.240 what do you think about game fining. He says, straight cash, homie. 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:32.640 That's what Randy is. And that quote is still used 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:34.720 to this day. Great cash homie. 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:37.080 Great cash homie. Whenever I pay anyone in cash, I 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:40.240 always say straight cash homeie. Oh, every single time. That's 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:41.320 going to live on forever. 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:43.119 How many years ago is that? That was a long 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:46.640 time ago? Twenty No, it wasn't twenty How I was 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:49.000 in high school man when that happened. He was on 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:51.200 the Minnesota Vikings, right hey, he was in the Vikings 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:55.000 at that time, So that was like what five maybe five? 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:57.359 I think you need to start this twenty years ago? 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.560 Did we start the top of the clock. Now, Rob's 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:03.360 got a little research that he's done. Now, Rob, how 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:04.360 did you get this research? 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:07.120 I just typed in the player's name on co pilot 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:10.360 and uh what type of you know, football player they 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:12.400 are or person they are? And it just popped up, 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:15.160 and you know, you gotta work smarter, not harder, you 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:15.840 gotta work. 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:18.280 What it's all about it is. So let's let's what 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:19.840 is what did a co pilots say? 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:21.000 This will also help. 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:21.680 Out my reading skills? 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:24.720 See dudes on dudes, I mean, we're not the smartest dudes. 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:27.240 Julian No, but we're also not the biggest idiots. 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:28.280 I know, we have. 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:31.919 Common sense and we're here, you know, doing this show 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:34.280 as well to help us out in life as well. 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:36.960 I would say we're idiots. I would say we're idiots. 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:39.320 We're not dumb. Yes, yes, we are idiots in a 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:41.680 good way though, ye best way. We're not like IQ 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.960 gonna like knock you off the charts. But you know, 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:47.560 like we're also not going to spend you know, like 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:49.560 all your money. If you have like two dollars, you're 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:52.000 going to spend fifty. That's like coming said, yeah, exactly, 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:52.440 there you go. 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:54.560 You hit it right on the nose. And are reading 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:55.840 skills I want to say. 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:58.280 Are you know? NOA skills are terrible everyone out there. 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.440 So this is gonna help my reading skills. It's going 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.800 to help my creativity doing this show as well. And 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:04.160 that's why I wanted to do it. I feel like 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:06.600 it's going to help us out on Fox, you know, 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:08.040 just being able to talk. 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:11.080 So we're building muscles, and we're also in the media 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:13.120 because we're going to use their AI. Let's go. So 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:13.760 here we go. 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:16.760 We got we got Randy Moss, right, Yeah, Randy Moss. 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:17.880 What is muss? 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:22.080 Randy Moss was a dynamic and explosive wide receiver known 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:27.640 for his exceptional speed, leaping ability, and playmaking skills. His 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:31.600 deep threat capability made him a constant challenge for defenders, 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:35.160 as he could stretch the field and make spectacular catches. 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:41.880 Moss was renowned, renowned, right renowned for his ability to 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:46.760 make acrobatic catches and score touchdowns, earning him earning him 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:50.159 a reputation as one of the most talented and dangerous 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:54.760 receivers in the NFL. Over his career, he was selected 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:57.839 to multiple Pro Bowls and was a key figure in 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:01.560 the two thousand and seven New England Patriots record setting off. 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:05.360 He was he was start the clock. Start the clock. 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.920 We got ten minutes which each player that we will 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:10.120 be talking about. 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:13.320 First of them. That's pretty damn good by co pilot. 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:16.240 Yeah, co pilot the money and Rob. 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:18.119 I think he knocked it out the park. 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:21.320 I was a co pilot reading that, I think you 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:22.560 were the actual pilot. 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:22.880 I was. 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:26.039 I was that actual pilot. No co pilot, you were. 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:27.200 You were there, but you weren't there. 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:29.440 I was co piloting by just sitting there. Were the 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:32.120 passenger I was a passenger, Yes you were. I was 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:34.880 a passenger. But who know who was the ride? It 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:38.119 was freaking good. It was freaky yeah, which was also 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:42.720 Randy's nickname. It was it was the freak. Randy went 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:45.279 to Would you go? You went to Marshall? There's so 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:49.760 many crazy stories about he committed to Florida State, then 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:52.839 he went to Notre Dame. Did you ever hear those. 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:54.920 I never heard any of those stories. But he ended 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:58.240 up at Marshall University. Where is Marshall anyways. 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:00.520 West Virginia. It's in West Virginia. Yeah. 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:04.560 And you always from Rand, West Virginia, like Randy Moss 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:06.440 is from Rand, West Virginia. 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:08.640 He used to say that all the time in practice. 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:11.880 Hey Rand you Rand? You remember you would always say 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:14.200 that like him, and like who else was from there? 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:17.080 White chocolate was from there? It was white chocolate. I 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:23.560 eat Who's white chocolate? Jason? Yeah, teammates, teammates in high school? Dude. 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:26.159 He always loves to fish too. He That was the 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:29.200 one thing you always knew about Moss in the off season. 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:32.760 You were never he was like a farm boy. Yeah, yeah, 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:37.600 he loved outdoors. You love fishing. Oh you know, I 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:39.800 was traumatized at a young age. My brother made me 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.560 hold like two catfish when I was like six years old, 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:44.480 and he told me they could sting you and they 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:48.039 had big old tentacles, and the fucking traumatized me. So 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:50.919 not a big fisher. I was like the kid wakeboarding. 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:53.039 My brother was like the fisher you fish. Nah. 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:55.919 I always got seasick every time we took that boat out, yeah, 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:57.720 you know, and they're like a mile off of shore. 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.640 I was always throwing up and like really dizzy. So 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:03.560 I never became a big fisherman. I mean I had 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:05.600 a pond behind my house growing up, so I get 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:08.240 like those sunny fish like that was cool, but never 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:10.600 really a big fisherman. I eat fish, so I like 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:13.560 favor fish black and salmon. Black and salmon, yeah, with 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:15.520 some good spices on it. I like a hall of it, 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:16.360 nice light fish. 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:20.520 Yeah. All right. Back to Randy. Back to Randy what 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:21.320 Hall of Fame? 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:23.080 What year was that he went to the Hall of 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:28.240 Fame Football Hall of Fame? That is was like twenty eighteen, 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:29.800 twenty eighteen, it was. 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:32.360 We won a Super Bowl. He was a twenty first 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:36.000 overall pick and he had a lot of the there's 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:39.520 a lot of like turbulence in his early career, you know, 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:42.560 in college and stuff which I always thought made Randy, 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:47.920 you know, misunderstood. You know he kind of what would 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:50.320 you say when he was in the locker room, Like 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:52.320 he was always a very caring dude, but he always 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:54.920 had his guard up. He always had his guard up. 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:57.720 But like on the low, he would always give you love. 0:07:57.800 --> 0:07:59.880 Like for me when I was I was a rookie receiver. 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:02.560 I used to have to go out and buy all 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:06.040 the receivers like lunch whenever we would have a way trips. 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:08.920 Remember before the travel, the rookie goes and grabs you know, 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:11.440 something from Bar Louie, or you go somewhere you know 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:14.600 Jimmy Jones or something, and you get the order. And 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:16.640 Randy would always make me do it. But I was 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:19.240 a seventh rounder, so I wasn't I wasn't paid by 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:21.640 any means, and guys were giving you crazy orders. Randy 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:24.000 would always throw me like three four hundred bucks. He'd 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:25.800 pay for it, make me go get it. So like 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:28.600 he was always he was just always quite like he 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:31.160 would kind of get on me in front of people. 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:33.720 But then when there was no one around, he'd always 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:36.160 loved me up and like, you know, like he I 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:37.920 think he was just putting that on there to make me, 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:39.400 you know, make me accountable. 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:41.760 Yeah, for the for the you know quarter career, you 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:43.840 know quarter year I played with Randy. I thought he 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:46.160 was a great teammate man, And like you said, I 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:48.360 feel like he was misunderstood in the public eye a 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:51.160 little bit. He didn't really care about you know, the 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:53.960 glam and all that. He like, he just he just 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:57.680 rubbed it off his shoulders like like it was nothing, 0:08:57.720 --> 0:08:59.679 like it was water man. But he cared about being 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:01.520 a good guy and he never thought he was too 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:04.240 big for anyone else. I mean, Randy was the best 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:06.679 wide receiver in the game at the time, maybe of 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:11.000 all time, and he cared about, you know, being relatable 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:13.559 to the young bucks. He did he made me feel 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.360 very warm and welcome. What do you do to the 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:17.880 New England Patriots when I. 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:19.439 Was What do he did to make you feel warm 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:19.679 and well? 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:22.720 So Moss always loved you know, kicking it back having 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:25.920 a conversation with myself. When I was a rookie, I 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:28.200 was struggling. I was in the playbook like crazy, He's 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:31.679 struggling a little bit. But he just loved how I 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:35.160 played the game and he always imitated me because I 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:37.959 was big. I was goofy, you know, and he liked 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:40.160 that kind of stuff, you know. And every time I 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:43.200 had a catch or you know, had a touchdown, I'd 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:45.200 be like myself, you know, I'd be giggling like this. 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:47.440 He'd be like, dude, bro, you always giggling. You always 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:50.320 having a good time, gronk, Like it's coolest shit, man, 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:51.160 coolest shit. 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:52.080 How you are man? 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:53.840 And I'd be like it made me feel warm and 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.480 welcome to be myself on the Patriots. And I'd be 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:59.160 like I always did that on the field after I 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:01.400 get up, like I that was just me. I was 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:03.640 getting hype and Moss was like, man, I like how 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:04.120 you do this? 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:04.360 Man? 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:07.080 I like like, cool shit, how you do that? Like 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:09.560 I'm going to do that. After I school a touchdown, 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:12.080 I was like for real. He's like, yeah, yeah, I'm 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:14.600 going to do that. So what happened game I think 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:18.360 game number two Buffalo versus Buffalo. He scored like, you know, 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:21.040 forty yard er post right down the middle, like you know, 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:23.640 like Randy Moss does because his fastest wide receiver I 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:27.600 probably ever seen play the game freakish, you know, stride. 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:29.920 It looked like he was going slow, look like, but 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:33.400 he was just always passing people and he was just gliding. 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:36.440 It was like jet ski on water, like on like 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:38.040 flat service, just gliding. 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:40.880 Yes. And it didn't look like. 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:43.559 He was going seventy no, but he was going seventy 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:45.400 maybe eighty on water, which is fast. 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:45.679 Yes. 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.760 So we get to the game. He scores that touchdown 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:52.520 and he starts doing this like he's being gronking the 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:52.960 end zone. 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:54.679 And I'm twenty one years. 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:58.760 Old and this is Randy Moss, fricking Moss imitating me 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:01.800 after one of his I thought it was the coolest thing. 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:04.840 I actually never even shared that story with anyone. I'm 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:07.240 not even I'm talking like, I never shared that story 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:09.800 with a friend a family member. It's just kind of 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:12.240 known within the team, you know, within the team and 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:15.200 the organization. So that's one of the coolest stories of 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:18.560 all time. You know about Randy mossa I have personally, 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:20.760 and he just made me feel welcome to the team, 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:23.760 and he just made me feel like myself because he 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:26.880 just loved how I was and how I played the game, 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:29.120 and it was just a special moment, that's for sure. 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:32.440 He fucked with dudes that worked hard. He I remember 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:34.960 on Tuesdays he would come in and do these workouts 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:38.440 where he would do like side step ups, these like 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:41.920 uh step ups, quick feet, and so I would jump 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:43.760 in with him every once in a while and he'd 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:46.120 do all these medicine ball things where like he'd have 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:48.520 like one leg on a medicine ball and do like 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:51.120 a push up, and you know, he was working your core. 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:53.840 And so I would always I'd always see him do shit, 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:55.160 and then I would go do it. You know, I 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.280 want to do what everything anything Randy did. But like 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:00.720 if he saw you working, he never really busted your balls. 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:02.600 That's kind of got you know. But if you weren't, 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:05.080 if you were you know, if you were talking and 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:07.440 you were a guy that wasn't hurt or something like 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:10.800 any other patriots, any of the patriot like guys, you 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.480 know you're gonna hear shit. You want to know. You 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:14.400 want to also know why. 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:17.199 I would say Randy was misunderstood a little bit because 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:21.160 he was real. Yeah, and when people are real, people 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:21.760 don't like. 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:26.040 That man, because like real one can sound like assholey, Yeah, exactly. 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:29.000 It sounds Assholey, Like, if he didn't want your freaking food, 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:30.720 he's not going to eat your food like you just 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:33.280 didn't want it, you know. If he didn't like you, 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:35.720 he didn't like you, like it's just real shit. And 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:38.200 then that's what makes people misunderstood. 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:41.680 I still can't fathom that Thanksgiving game that he had. 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:44.240 What was the screenshot of of his Well, he had 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:46.760 three catches, like one hundred and forty six yards, wasn't 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:48.600 sixty three yards on stream? 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:52.280 Sixty three yards? Oh and three touchdowns. All his catches 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:55.240 were over fifty yards. It was when he was with 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:59.280 the Minnesota Vikings Thanksgiving Day. He ate the turkey after 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:02.719 the game as well. Yeah, it was just Moss being Moss. Well, 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:05.440 Randy was so special that we actually had a play named. 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:06.120 After him, Moss. 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:10.320 Yeah, Moss, Hoss, Moss, which is the Moss signal. That 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:12.760 was the signal because it was all goes. There was 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:14.160 a go on the left, there was a seam on 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:16.360 the left, there was a seam on the right. And 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:19.000 every time Brady did that, I got excited because I 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:22.280 was always the slack guy going down the field, so Moss. 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:24.400 Every time I saw that play, I thought of Moss 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:26.640 and just felt like I had to turn the burners 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:27.280 on as well. 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:30.880 Rob, you had how many What was your biggest touchdown season? 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:36.400 I had seventeen touchdowns in twenty twelve, but eighteen because 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:37.920 one of them counted as a rush. 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:43.120 Eighteen touchdowns. He had twenty three touchdowns. How fucking nuts? 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:44.040 Is freaking nuts. 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:46.000 I don't think anyone's ever going to touch that. 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:49.319 I don't know what the eighteen I don't think anyone's 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:52.200 going to touch it. Still will because guys aren't playing 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:55.400 as many games like they don't play the whole season. 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:59.240 Yeah, I mean that's not the reason why. I think 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:02.840 just because was just so dominant twenty three touchdowns. Because 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:04.920 when you have twenty three touchdowns, Moss was only one 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.160 who can get away from double coverage and then run 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:09.280 away from it because he was so fast and freaky. 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.360 Ain't no one ever gonna touch that twenty three touchdown record. 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:14.400 I mean I was pretty close that one year when 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:17.880 I had seventeen. And then actually he was at practice 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:19.880 one of my best training camps of all time when 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:23.120 we were in West Virginia. Moss came whatever at that 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:27.480 dump place at Greenboro. It's great for football coaches loved 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:29.240 it because all you did was focus on football. 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:30.760 But he can go to the casino though it was 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:32.760 fucking bullshit. Good thing. 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:34.880 We would have lost all our money or want a 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:36.800 lot more money and then had it could have retired 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:40.040 in training camp. But Moss was there when we were 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:42.440 facing the Saints in practice and I was dominant. 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:42.640 Man. 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:45.680 This was a year I was on fire, unstoppable. It 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.560 was actually the year we won the Super Bowl versus 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:52.840 Atlanta when I was unstoppable, and it was just unfortunate 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:54.800 that I got lit up up the middle of that year. 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.480 But I had like four touchdowns in a row versus 0:14:57.480 --> 0:14:59.600 Saints and seven on seven and Moss was right there, 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:01.120 and I was like, Boss, I'm coming for you. 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:01.440 Man. 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:04.680 That touchdown record is my go. Gronk, you got it. Boy, 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:05.560 You're the only one. 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:06.000 Gronk. 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:09.960 You the only one that can beat my touchdown record. Gronk, 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:12.280 you got this, boy. I want to see you do 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:14.600 I go, Moss, I am gonna do a buddy, I'm 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:17.960 on coming for twenty three, no problem. I mean, it 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:21.000 was kind of realization at that time. I was dreaming big, 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:23.120 but it was just so cool to have Moss right there. 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:26.760 Talking shit to Randy Moss. I'm gonna beat his touchdown 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:30.360 record in the middle of practice. Like was one of 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:33.320 the coolest moments I've ever had in practice at Moss, 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:36.080 You're the man. And the freakiest catch I've ever seen 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:39.240 Moss make that I will still remember for I will 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:41.960 remember for the rest of my life is the Reevius catch. 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:44.720 It was the second game. It was the second game 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:47.680 of season. Of the season, that was my first start. 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:50.160 It was so when he did the invitation of me. 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:51.840 It was actually the first game of the season. I 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:52.480 think we played. 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:55.920 No this was was that. That was I don't think 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:57.320 you were there yet. No, I was there. 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:00.600 So we played the We played Cincinnati my very first game. 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:04.720 Then we went to the Jets. We lost most freakiest 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:05.720 catch I've ever seen. 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:06.720 We lost the game. 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:10.320 Yeah, we lost the game. Uh, Brady just tossed it 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:13.240 up there. He let the play developed, no one was open, 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:16.280 so he tossed it up one on one coverage Moss 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:19.200 Verus Durell Reeves, the best cornerback in the game. Moss 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:21.920 put his hand up in the air and just snagged 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:24.040 it one handed, right in the end zone about three 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:27.400 yards in. It was freaky because he extended all the way. 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:29.120 It wasn't like it was like close to his body 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:33.200 heat made that extension, you know, effs effortless. 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:35.120 It looked like he barely did it that when he 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:37.040 was going, He's just like eh. 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:39.920 And then oh, and then we played the Buffalo Bills 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:42.160 a third game, and that's when he did the imitation 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:48.160 imitate Fau imitating me, Oh no, myself, the gronk giggles. 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:51.440 And then we played the Miami Dolphins the fourth game 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:55.480 of the season. And then after that game he went there. 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:56.760 He wasn't there anymore. 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.680 It was sad. It was You want to know something, Jules, 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:02.120 O remember it, man, I remember it. 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:05.280 We were we were partying man. When he got traded. 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.399 It was Monday night, and you know us, we were 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.879 young bucks man. We went to Foxwoods the casino, and 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:19.879 we walked Monday. No, no, it was a Monday. It 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:21.600 was a Monday night game. So to be able to 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:24.080 buy weekend, we had I think we had a bye 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:26.960 week or something because we went to Foxwoods Tuesday night 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:30.880 because it was industry night at Foxwoods, and you know us, 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:34.440 we're in the industry of partying at that time. 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:37.280 We were maniacs. We were maniacs. 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:40.160 Were this dudes and dudes bad. We're just having the conversation, 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:43.200 you know, we're just telling our stories, just living up. 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:45.240 You know, how did you find it in the past? 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:48.600 And I remember we were together, man, and you were 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:52.800 you were pretty hungover, I remember, and I was hungover too, 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:55.560 and we turned on the TV. We didn't know anything 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:58.520 what was going on, and we turned on the TV 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:02.280 ESPN and Randy of there it was breaking news, traded 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:06.240 to the Minnesota Vikings, and literally we were like heartbroken. 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:08.960 We were hungover and heartbroken. It was probably the worst 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:13.040 situation you could be in. Yeah, yeah, but we always 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:14.200 climb out of those holes. 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:17.480 That was. But uh I talked about talk about the 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:18.480 Sunday scaries. 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:21.520 Yeah, that was. That was the Tuesday morning scaries right there. 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:23.920 You wake up, you know, oh fuck, we got to 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:25.760 practice is gone. 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:30.200 That was one of the examples of of my early 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:34.320 times in my career that I was starting to learn 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:37.440 that the NFL was a business. Oh yeah, because as 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:39.639 a rookie, you don't know that it's a business. You 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:42.639 know you're gonna make the team. You think you're playing forever. 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:46.080 Can't trade Rainy trading Rainey can't trade Randy Moss. 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:49.040 She's the greatest of all time. And it was really 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:51.080 cool though, because he did that press conference I think 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:53.320 the week before, like he wants a new deal. He 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:55.960 had his headphones around his neck. He kind of he 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:58.159 kind of went off like the Patriots ain't giving me 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:02.080 my new contract. And I thought that was really cool 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:05.120 because that's the Randy Moss I knew, like going off, 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:06.879 just just being a real dude. 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:09.080 Yeah, he knows. And I love that shit. 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:12.280 I love when players act up man, and I thought 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:14.639 it was the coolest thing. So it was sad to 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:16.560 see him go. But it was also sad because that 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:18.640 was part of the reason I feel like he went. 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:20.440 You know, Bill Is takes no shit. 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:25.639 He doesn't. But that's when you're reckon. You realize that 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:27.840 this is definitely a business. All right. 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:30.560 So some final thoughts Randy Moss, What kind of dude 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:32.639 is Randy must then? Yeah, what kind of dude is he? 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:33.480 I would say? 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:37.680 So, we have a stud at like athleticism football IQ, 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:43.440 the pedigree. We have the freak unparalleled physical ability one 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:46.520 of one pretty much a mutant that sounds pretty close. 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:52.720 We have a dog who's relentless, motivated, physical and mental toughness. 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:58.600 We got the whiz dude whose intellect innovative, very clutch, 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:02.920 and we got to do dude, positive attitude, locker room guy, 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:05.840 calm cool, collect glue guy. He's like a glue guy. 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:06.520 Dude's dude. 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:08.199 And let me tell you, every dude that we're going 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:10.080 to be talking about hit all of them. 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:10.840 They hit them. 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:13.840 All their attributes are all five of them. But we're 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:17.600 trying to find the one that exemplifies them the most. 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:20.280 And with Randy Moss, it's easy. I feel like this 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:24.280 is a no brainer, no brainer, no brainer. It's already 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:25.639 in his nickname, the freak. 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:29.760 The freak, I mean he was. I remember he's just 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:34.080 so fast. He was so he could jump, he he 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:37.320 he could catch the ball. The intricacies of the game 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:40.960 where like that were you would try to coach the guys, 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:44.520 like late hands and stacking the receiver, like those are 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:46.639 the things that like we would try to coach. He 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:48.919 just did it naturally. That's like how he like he 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:52.159 just knew how to judge a ball and high point 0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:56.200 balls like he We literally have segments named after him 0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:58.760 going up and just mossing dudes. 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:02.359 And the way the ability he had to just leap 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:03.680 when he was running full speed. 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:04.240 It's crazy. 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:05.800 Is what made him so great because he can have 0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:08.240 a defender on him because defenders were just as fast 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:10.040 as him. Some of them were some of the. 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:18.040 DB's Heylate all right, Remember he used to challenge Slate 0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:18.560 all the time. 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:21.560 But every once in a while there there was a 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:23.520 guy that you know, it was kind of covering, but 0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:25.720 what did he do. He just leaped right over him 0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:27.480 like a frog and made the catch. And that's what 0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:28.840 made him so freaky. 0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:31.800 It's so crazy to think, like you're when you're running 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:35.280 full speed and you got to track a ball, your 0:21:35.320 --> 0:21:38.240 eyes are bouncing like that's like some of the first 0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:41.080 things you see, like when from your like off season 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:44.400 training and you jump into like you know, start competing 0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:46.720 against guys, the first thing that you always have to 0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:49.760 dial in is the bouncy eyes. My eyes would bouncing. 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:51.840 I'm going like a guy to go full speed and 0:21:51.920 --> 0:21:54.919 be able to concentrate and then like effort, see like 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:58.760 a ballerina, jump off one leg, go back, mass the 0:21:58.840 --> 0:22:02.280 dude over to Like that's that's a freak. He's a freak. 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:06.359 I remember Jules like you used to always bribe Moss 0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:08.720 would do it. So I'm doing it so like right 0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:11.400 after the games, like when you landed from an away game, 0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:13.400 he will go right to the weight room to get 0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:15.639 his workout in. And you've been Marshall doing it, I'm 0:22:15.680 --> 0:22:18.160 gonna do it. You know, like you copied everything he did, 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:20.280 hey man, But I don't blame you. Man, he's the 0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:21.280 greatest of all time. 0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:24.159 I would copy him. Tom didn't when it was around 0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:31.119 Copy West Poppy Katlee. Yeah, all right, you loved your dudes. 0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:34.920 You love hanging on your dudes. You because one dude 0:22:35.000 --> 0:22:35.960 you wanted the dude on. 0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:38.879 You become a creature of the dudes you hang around. 0:22:39.600 --> 0:22:41.600 That's the truth, you know, you become a dude of 0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:42.080 the dudes. 0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:44.760 That's why keeps on podcasts, you know, because I've been 0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:46.680 hanging out with you jewels, and you have your podcast. 0:22:46.760 --> 0:22:48.840 So I wanted to part Now it's just dude dribbing 0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:52.240 off on dudes. So we did. 0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:55.000 Randy Moss all right, freak of nature, freak, no doubt. 0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:56.560 He's a freak dude, no question. 0:22:56.960 --> 0:22:59.840 All right, let's go into our next bomb, bomp bomb. 0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:02.680 Sure, we're gonna go for more than ten minutes. We've 0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:06.760 already went for more than ten minutes. Who's our next guest, Tom? 0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:11.520 I mean, oh wow, all right, who's our next guest, Julian. 0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:18.840 Our next guest is Thomas Edward Patrick Brady. Now, let's 0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:22.520 see what AI has what to say about TV two guys. 0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:24.360 I know him pretty well. Let's see if AI knows 0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:26.840 him just as well. All right, started the clock. Let's see. 0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:30.480 Let's see if AI is really living up to the standards. 0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:34.679 Let's see he's everyone's saying, last two, AI, all right, 0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:39.560 Tom Brady is a legendary NFL quarterback. Well, they're already 0:23:39.600 --> 0:23:42.920 wrong because he's not a legendary NFL quarterback. He was 0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:44.879 an NFL legendary quarterback? 0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:50.280 Or is he? Does AI know he's Tom? Ay? I 0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:51.680 know something that we don't know. 0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:57.160 You're right, HEYI is living up to the standards. Dolphin 0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:02.280 Kyle Shannon Hands still wants them with the Niners, even. 0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:05.919 Though maybe AI is up to something. Right now, I. 0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:14.000 See he's a renowned for his record seven Super Bowl 0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:19.080 victories and five Super Bowl MVP Awards. Off the field, 0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:22.840 he is known for his discipline lifestyle. 0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:27.800 Very disciplined. TV twelve method business, venturess, business ventures, a 0:24:27.880 --> 0:24:31.520 lot of business ventures, owns teams, lots of teams, raiders 0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:32.720 potentially coming up soon. 0:24:33.480 --> 0:24:36.320 And philanthropic efforts, a lot. 0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:38.399 Of giving back to the kids, best buddies for a 0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:39.000 long time. 0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:45.880 Yes, and what about the kids he helped become superstars? Yeah, 0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:48.399 he helped us out too, were part of that. That 0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:53.080 doesn't go that's not fullanthropy, but no, that's his biggest 0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:59.120 philanthropy right there. It was definitely okay, helping us kids out. 0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:03.360 He helped his a right, a lot, all right, Oh, 0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:06.600 including his work with the TB twelve Foundation. 0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:10.040 Which you just mentioned and TV twelve Foundation. Brady's leadership, 0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:19.080 He's a leader resilience, guys, fucking resilient and commitment. Come on, Jules, 0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:21.480 is he committed? This guy has committed like no other 0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:23.800 to excellence. 0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:25.520 Have made him an iconic figure? 0:25:26.720 --> 0:25:30.160 Is he iconic? Fucking He's got to order the most 0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:32.320 iconic guy's gotta iconic. 0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:37.199 Figure both in sports and infinity and beyond. Is an 0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:40.359 infinites and beyond. But I added that little bite of 0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:44.200 buzz light year, you know, spectacle aspect into it. 0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:47.440 I like that. I like that, but I can't believe a, 0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:51.639 I didn't one thing that AI didn't get. This guy's 0:25:52.680 --> 0:26:00.119 his compartment. His compartmentalization skill is fucking outrageous. That's what 0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:04.640 if anyone asked me, like what is he could literally 0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:08.639 have so many things going around, going going on in 0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:13.159 his life, but when it was time for work, he 0:26:13.280 --> 0:26:17.240 could blur all that out and think about what that 0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:20.040 workday was and fucking get the most out of that 0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:23.520 workday every day. Which some would say that's like a 0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:27.360 serial killer or some kind of maniac mindset. I would say, 0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:30.240 that's like the greatest of all time. Yes, Jules, that's 0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:33.159 a great point. I actually never thought of that, and 0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:38.320 that's one hundred percent accurate. And that's actually contributes. 0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:40.600 To why he was so great, is that he could 0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:44.640 ignore the noise, whatever is going on out there, whatever 0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:48.880 the situation was better, it didn't matter, and he would Yeah, 0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:51.800 he would use that anyways he was using as fuel. 0:26:51.840 --> 0:26:54.960 It would be diesel fuel, it would be normal, normal fuel, 0:26:55.000 --> 0:26:59.240 would be freaking super fuel, it didn't matter. 0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:03.280 Usually a few freaking gas stations have that fuel fill 0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:04.159 up that engine. 0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:07.480 And he had diesel engine, he had freaking premium engine. 0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:10.359 He had every engine in the book, jet engine, and 0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:12.359 that's what made him so great. And he used that 0:27:12.440 --> 0:27:14.479 fuel and he burned all that fuel too. 0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:18.560 This is probably terrible. There's so many he burned so 0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:21.159 much fuel that he killed literally so much of the 0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:25.280 ozone layer that he's a fucking hazard to our environment 0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:30.040 because that's how much fuel he burns. With the motivation 0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:34.600 and his compartmentalization factors, that's how much fuel he's burning. 0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:37.760 And that and that jet was full go every single time. 0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:39.080 You know, when you get on a plane, you're like, 0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:42.480 this freaking pilot, better drive this plane or fly this 0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:45.480 plane as fast as possible. Well, drive it too freaking 0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:48.040 on the runway to get to the runway to freaking 0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:51.159 take off a sap so fly it and drive it 0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:54.560 as fast as possible. That's this guy. 0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:57.720 And he's got headwinds, so you're actually using more fuel. Yeah, 0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:02.679 and with the fuel never ran out. The guy has 0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:06.359 fucking airplanes that come out while you're flying. Have you 0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:08.880 seen that where they use the fucking piece and while 0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:14.520 they're flying in the air and connecting the limited Yeah, 0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:16.479 that's and that is Alex. 0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:28.119 Alex is the little airplane ale Oh man, he just 0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:29.280 has so much fuel. 0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:33.600 I mean, oh, that was so good. That was so good. 0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:43.640 There they are, look at there's alex Is froewing time up. Wow. Wow. 0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:46.160 And that's something that happen. And that's a love thing 0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:47.160 out Alex because he. 0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:50.800 Gets him going, keeps them going. Man, Well, let's get 0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:53.520 to some accolades. I mean, first he was he was 0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:57.080 picked one sixth round in the two thousand draft. I mean, 0:28:57.080 --> 0:28:59.800 I'm sure everyone knows that by now. He's with the 0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:03.200 from two thousand to twenty nineteen, and then with the 0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:06.320 Bucks two thousand to twenty twenty two. And actually I 0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:09.080 just got a quiz on him. How many years did 0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:11.720 he play in the NFL? And it was right before 0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:13.720 I talked to him two weeks ago on Fox, Kurt 0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:16.840 Menfie asked me, we played a little live game. Hey, 0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:19.040 how well do you know your teammate Tom Brady goes? 0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:21.760 How many more years did Tom Brady play in the 0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:24.480 NFL than you? And I played eleven years? And I 0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:27.320 thought Tom Brady played twenty four years. I actually got 0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:30.120 it wrong. He played twenty three years in the NFL. 0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:31.480 So shame on me. 0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:34.120 But it was better to be over on that than 0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:36.080 the hit it right on the nose. But that's how 0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:36.960 many years he played? 0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:37.200 Is that? 0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:39.560 I just know it was so many I couldn't even 0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:43.400 keep track anymore. He played eleven years more years. 0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:46.840 Than he played, eleven years more than you, in twelve 0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:50.240 years more than me. That is fucking I played twelve 0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:52.440 I played eleven years in the NFL, and he played 0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:57.320 more years in the NFL that I put in the NFL. 0:29:57.560 --> 0:30:01.840 He that without me? That makes sense? Yeah, yeah, like 0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:04.400 if you I don't know what that's called, but that's 0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:05.000 a math term. 0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:08.920 Yeah, that's called the whole. That's called goat. 0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:14.280 That's fucking goat, goyoat. Yeah, that's called jet fuel. Alex's 0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:17.440 jet fuel. Alex's jet fuel. Yeah. What was the first 0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:18.240 time you met Tom? 0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:20.800 The first time I met Tom was actually what was 0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:23.160 pretty wild when I was at the University of Arizona. 0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:24.880 You know, I was doing my interview. I had a 0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:27.240 couple of touchdowns that game. I was showing off my 0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:32.280 touchdown celebrations, and then the lady interviewing me, she's like, 0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:35.040 who do you see being your quarterback in the NFL, 0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:38.040 And obviously, right on the spot, I go, Tom Brady 0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:41.600 would be the best quarterback to have in the NFL, 0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:44.720 and especially a great fit for me, and that was 0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:46.560 just the answer, you know. And then I did my 0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:49.280 touchdown dances and all that, and then what happens. I 0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:54.960 get drafted to the Patriots and Tom Brady becomes my quarterback. 0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:55.080 In the NFL. 0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:57.800 It was like I manifested it when I was in college. 0:30:57.840 --> 0:31:00.320 I manifested a lot of things. And if you have Tom, 0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:03.920 Tom's probably really big into manifesting his mat He manifested 0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:05.680 all his Super Bowls because right after he won a 0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:08.160 Super Bowl, he would already have a clock counting down 0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:11.120 to the next next. So he was manifesting like crazy. 0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:13.760 You just learned so much knowledge from him, and he's 0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:17.720 done so many things right to be able to get to, 0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:20.560 uh you know, nature of where he is now. It 0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:23.840 wasn't like he just had the athletic ability. He showed up. 0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:27.560 He did everything right and he put the time in 0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:31.120 that you can never argue against him, can't. 0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:35.520 You can't be So let's get let's get back to 0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:37.280 what was I talking about again? I don't know. I 0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:38.280 just got. Yeah. 0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:40.840 I got At the first time I met him, it 0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:42.880 was in the training room. I was getting my ankles 0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:45.480 taped and he walked in, So I was there already 0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:47.840 for the rookie camps, the rookie practices, and he just 0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:51.080 walks up to me. He goes, hey, Rob, I'm Tom Brady, 0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:54.160 and I was like, oh wow, this guy already knows 0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:57.440 my name. I mean, that's also what makes him so 0:31:57.520 --> 0:31:59.400 great as well, is that he already knows all the 0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:02.520 rookies name, all the guys that were drafted, what rounds 0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:04.880 they were drafted in, what type of player they already were, 0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:07.920 because he wants to know, you know, their athletic ability, 0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:09.560 you know what type of guy they are, so he 0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:11.520 can understand them so he can be on the same 0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:13.120 page as events out of them, so he can get 0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:14.720 the best out of them as well, like you said, 0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:17.720 and he could have that connection to help win games, 0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:20.400 so he can be on the same you know, wavelength 0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:22.520 as them. So he already knew my name, came up 0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:23.959 to me, and I just thought it was the coolest thing. 0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:25.720 Man. I just said, hey, man, nice to meet you. 0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:28.240 It was just super quick he left. What did you 0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:28.920 think in your head? 0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:32.680 And Tom Brady knew my name and that was the 0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:35.960 greatest honor to shake his hand while getting my ankles taped. 0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:39.600 And then he goes wins four super Bowls with them. 0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:42.720 That's crazy. I had a similar story. Yeah, what was 0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:44.760 it like when you met him? What? What was that story? 0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:48.080 I was going from, Like you said, we were already 0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:50.200 in there. When you're a rookie, you get in there before. 0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:52.040 Back in our day, you get in there before the 0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:55.400 vets reported. And so you'd be there for like three weeks, 0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:59.880 did rookie camp and learning installations of everything. And so 0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:02.360 I had a big book. We all had these books. 0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:05.720 It was like a five inch Remember those old old 0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:08.920 binders before we had iPads. We used to have big 0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:11.240 old binders. I didn't like carrying them around. I left 0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:13.080 mine in my locker when I went home. 0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:15.040 Yeah, even though you were supposed to bring it home 0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:16.760 to study, I was like, I ain't carrying that binder. 0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:19.600 I used to carry it. You did I do? I 0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:23.880 was trying to make you. So I'm over here, getting 0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:29.200 five minutes before the special Teams meeting. It's true, and 0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:32.680 I'm running through and the Vets came in. And I 0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:34.800 saw the vets coming because I saw well in the 0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:38.120 in the cafeteria. Didn't say a word to me. I 0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:41.040 was but I wanted to big, big time A little 0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:44.160 bit had a leather jacket. He looks cool. 0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:45.880 He looks like when you guys big time each other, 0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:49.000 it's entertainment for me. All right back to time though. 0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:51.760 And so I knew they were in but I was 0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:54.120 going to my meeting and he walks through the door, 0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:56.760 you know, the entrance of the locker room from the hall. 0:33:57.320 --> 0:33:59.520 He walks in there and he goes, I like, look 0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:01.720 at him. I drop my book. I'm like, oh shit, 0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:04.600 this dude is taller than I thought. And he goes, hey, 0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:08.000 I'm Tom. I go Jules. He goes, I know we 0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:10.520 have the same agent. Dragon's my agent too, or something 0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:12.920 something like that. And I was like, nice to meet you, 0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:15.839 and you could I felt the same way you felt, like, damn, 0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:19.520 he knew my name. That's fucking crazy. But he knew 0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:23.600 that he knew everyone's name, and he made everyone feel special, 0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:27.080 and that that was part of his leadership skill, you know, 0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:30.960 like what made him such an unbelievable leader, from the 0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:36.520 meal ladies to you know, the people in the equipment room, 0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:41.080 the training staff, Like it didn't matter what was going on, 0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:43.520 how the day went, he was always a pretty cool 0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:47.560 dude to everyone, and everyone was always watching him. You 0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:49.520 know what I mean. And that's when you're the quarterback 0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:52.480 of the team. Everyone no matter what is going on 0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:55.839 in your life, is watching that person and to see 0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:59.480 how they react to everything, the success, the failure. Your 0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:02.440 eyes go to that guy, you know. And he was 0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:06.759 the perfect guy for us, especially when we were young knuckleheads, 0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:08.400 to look at, like, all right, this is how you 0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:11.600 have to do it. He gave you the example and 0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:13.560 and he was just a fucking. 0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:19.360 He gave us the blueprint on how to become a reliable, talented, 0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:23.799 you know player that you needed to be to help 0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:26.160 the team win games. He gave us the blueprint on 0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:28.839 how to become a star out there on the field. 0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:31.440 He gave us the blueprint on how to make plays, 0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:34.520 how to go out there and have that mindset ready 0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:39.640 to go, and also be mentally and physically ready at 0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:42.600 all times on the practice field and on the game field. 0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:45.319 There's no doubt about that. And he didn't just give 0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:47.279 you a blueprint. He showed you the way too. 0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:47.880 Showed you. 0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:49.839 Yes, he showed you, Hey, this is where I want 0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:51.400 you on this route. This is when you need to 0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:53.080 look at me. This is where the ball is going 0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:55.520 to change you. Yes, He trained you to be like that. 0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:58.640 Oh wait, oh, wait, oh you want to take a break. 0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:00.600 Hey man, I'm telling you you're and will let you 0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:03.320 go farther. Let's go four more routes, let's go. You 0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:04.960 got to be able to be on the same page 0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:05.160 as me. 0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:06.120 You got to be right here. 0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:10.120 Be more physical, Be more physical. You're bigger than everyone. 0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:13.120 Run his ass over and turn around and the ball 0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:14.719 will be there, I promise you. And if you don't 0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:17.320 hit that guy, if you're not physical, guess what, the 0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:18.759 ball is not going to come to you. He would 0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:21.680 just lay it out just like that. His leadership was 0:36:21.840 --> 0:36:24.960 just what's that word where it's just brutally honest? Yes, 0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:27.719 brutally honest. And that's what made him so great too. 0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:31.279 So like with him, that's what he always harped to 0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:36.080 gronk with me. I remember in those because a lot 0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:38.440 of times we would get that coaching in the offseason, 0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:41.200 when he would go fly out somewhere we would throw together, 0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:42.920 you know, because there's times where you would do it. 0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:44.799 There was times that I would do it. He would 0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:46.840 always try to get his throes in with his guys, 0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:49.839 and for me, he'd always come up to me and like, hey, 0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:53.640 I need you to be here. I need you to 0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:57.319 be like a boxer. You know you can't. You can't 0:36:57.400 --> 0:37:01.680 be You can't just do what the thing shows you 0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:03.480 on the paper. You have to feel it out. You 0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:05.640 got to set things up with your jab and then 0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:07.719 you use your right. You know, it's like a box. 0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:09.680 You got to be more savvy in your route running. 0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:11.520 That's I remember you saying that. And then he'd always say, like, 0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:13.400 you got to run like a fucking you got to 0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:15.480 be able to run. You got to be able to 0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:18.200 run all day. And like you said, when you were tired, 0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:21.440 we would do those sets of routes. He'd make you 0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:24.520 do three or four extra ones and he would say 0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:26.640 you'd line up and you would you think that the 0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:28.520 drill was done, and he would say, oh, there is 0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:32.160 offsides on a penalty on your teammates, or there was 0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:35.239 a holding call or PI, or we got to redo it. 0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:37.160 And he knew you were dog dead, but he wanted 0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:39.200 to see. He wanted to get everything out of you 0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:41.400 when you were on empty. He wanted to see what 0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:43.279 kind of guy you were, and he wanted to show you. 0:37:43.719 --> 0:37:45.959 That's what he expected in game time. 0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:50.040 And a word that you could have used in there 0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:52.040 as well. That kind of sums it up a little bit, 0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:57.160 as he loved a decisive route, run decisive, decisive. He 0:37:57.200 --> 0:38:00.520 didn't care if the paper said run ten yards and 0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:03.880 run out. He didn't care one bit. He cared about 0:38:03.960 --> 0:38:07.480 being decisive on the practice field and taking that decisiveness 0:38:08.040 --> 0:38:10.160 and bringing it to the game field. 0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:12.439 He goes, Hey, if you're going to run. 0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:14.480 Twelve yards even though it's a ten yard route, or 0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:15.920 if you're gonna run eight yards and it's gonna be 0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:18.640 a little short, just be decisive. Let me know when 0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:20.440 you're gonna break out. Let me know when you're gonna 0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:22.200 break down, so I can get that ball out and 0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:24.440 I can read you. I don't need you to have 0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:27.880 fifteen steps where you're slow. I think you're going to 0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:29.320 go to the left and then you go to the 0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:32.719 right side. No, be decisive, and if you're decisive, I 0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:34.759 will find you and that ball will be out and. 0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:37.120 It will be right on point. That's what he said. 0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:40.080 What's the biggest misconception of him? You think the biggest 0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:45.439 misconception of Tom Brady? I think he said he's cool. 0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:48.200 Is that, Yeah, he is cool. No, I think that's 0:38:48.200 --> 0:38:51.640 the biggest misconception. He's not that cool depends. That's the 0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:56.680 misconception right there, because he's cool. When he's comfortable, he's cool. 0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.160 But no, if he's comfortable in the situation, I think 0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:02.200 he's not cool when he's comfortable. I think when he's 0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:03.719 around us, he's kind of like a dork. 0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:05.560 Yeah, a little bit. 0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:08.200 And then when I mean to everyone else he's the 0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:10.640 coolest guy, which I still think he's the coolest guy ever. 0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:13.439 But then when you have him around, You're like, he's 0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:14.640 really kind of a dork. 0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:18.680 There's some situations where you know, if if he's comfortable, 0:39:19.640 --> 0:39:24.120 he's more himself, yes, yes, and he's more like you know, 0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:27.360 like like dad Jo, Like if he knows all the 0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:30.279 cameras are shut off, like he can finally. 0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:36.160 Just have something to be Tom. Yeah, he's kind of dorky. Okay, okay, 0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:38.680 I like, but you need a little dorky in your 0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:39.360 your quarterback. 0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:39.600 You do. 0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:41.880 Mostly all quarterbacks are a little dorky. 0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:44.279 And that's what makes some quarterbacks, I mean, not all 0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:46.080 of them, but I'm saying it's kind of like just 0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:49.080 a trait what quarterbacks have, but a little bit, just 0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:52.799 a little bit in them he is cool, but he's 0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:53.400 a little dorky. 0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:56.960 But you just said he's not cool. No, I said 0:39:57.000 --> 0:40:06.560 the biggest misconception. He's cool. He always keeps a chip 0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:10.239 on his shoulder always always. That's work. 0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:12.200 I think everyone knows this work ethic. 0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:14.759 I know, but I'm just giving some facts about him. 0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:16.399 What else is a misconception? 0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:23.200 Mmmm, that he's not clutch no's that's not even a misconception. 0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:26.759 Everyone knows he's clutched. I just wanted to try to 0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:27.760 throw you off, jewels. 0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:32.799 How about this guy also played baseball and got drafted, Yeah, 0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:36.719 by the Expos Montreal. No wonder why he didn't go 0:40:36.800 --> 0:40:40.120 and play baseball the Expos. I mean they have a 0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:43.560 cool hat, they do, got cool colors. They're gone though 0:40:43.560 --> 0:40:44.200 they're not even there. 0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:45.680 No, So, I mean that's why he didn't want to 0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:47.920 go there. He's like, oh man, my legacy. I go there, 0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:49.520 the team's going to be gone. That means I'm going 0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:51.719 to be gone. I want to last forever. I'll go 0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:54.759 to the New England Patriots instead. Yeah, he was in 0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:56.840 high school when he got drafted. He went to the 0:40:56.920 --> 0:40:58.680 same He went to the same Now he was going 0:40:58.719 --> 0:40:59.440 to the Patriots. 0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:02.879 Yeah, he went to that I remember, well, we grew 0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:04.320 up in the same area, so he went to the 0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:08.520 same high school as Lynn Swan, Barry Bonds. There's like 0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:11.120 so many really good athletes to come out of that 0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:15.040 freaking school, Sarah, it's all boys school. What what was 0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:17.640 the moment that Tom made you the most annoyed? Oh 0:41:17.760 --> 0:41:22.320 my god, when I would return punts, Like I remember 0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:26.200 my rookie year. It was the freaking preseason game. It 0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:28.520 was my first punt return and there was a repunt 0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:30.719 and I ended up housing the second one, but the 0:41:30.800 --> 0:41:33.359 first one. I see Tom on the sideline and he's 0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:35.880 got a little anxiety because it's his first game from 0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:38.440 his knee. So he's like he was like coaching me 0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:41.719 up on how to return a punt. He's like, just 0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:44.719 get up there, just get up there. I'm sitting there 0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:46.800 and I'm looking at him, like, fuck, this guy. This 0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:49.160 guy has never done this. He does not know what 0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:51.920 I'm feeling right now. I was so annoyed with him. 0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:54.920 And then then they repunted it and I housed it 0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:57.640 and I fucking slammed the ball against the thing. I 0:41:57.800 --> 0:41:59.440 was fired up, and I was like, I was so 0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:03.040 annoyed with them like this guy is he's never felt 0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:06.360 what it fills when the guys are running full This 0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:08.360 is new to me. I never felt it either at 0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:10.560 the time, so I like, fuck this guy, Let me 0:42:10.640 --> 0:42:12.200 do what I gotta do. It is not a run. 0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:14.520 And I was so annoyed with them. I'll tell you 0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:16.000 mine what was yours. 0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:18.280 When I was a rookie, and I couldn't get outside 0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:22.439 of the defender on a flag route, which is flag rout, 0:42:22.480 --> 0:42:24.279 which is a corner route, so you run about ten 0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:26.319 twelve yards and you know, you give a little stick 0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:28.160 and you break it forty five degrees and run a 0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:30.600 corner route, and the defender was always outside of me, 0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:33.520 sitting at like squatting at ten yards, and he's always says, 0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:36.479 get outside. If you have a flag route corner route, 0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:38.960 you gotta get outside of the defender or else I 0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:40.680 will never throw you the freaking ball. 0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:41.680 So I was a rookie. 0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:44.120 I was kind of like clunky. So I wasn't really 0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:47.279 that athletic as a rookie. You know, I wasn't running 0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:50.560 routside right, yea double day's and yeah, I was tired 0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:53.759 as well. I couldn't get outside, and in practice I 0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:55.480 didn't get outside of the guy. He's like two three 0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:57.719 yards outside of me too, and I'm trying to fake 0:42:57.800 --> 0:42:59.719 him like I'm going inside and trying to get around 0:42:59.840 --> 0:43:02.560 him on the corner and Brady just turns around in 0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:04.520 the meeting because it's on film, and he turns around. 0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:08.799 He goes, Gronk, I'm fucking done throwing you the ball. 0:43:09.120 --> 0:43:12.040 I told you fifty times to get outside. You're not 0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:15.480 getting outside. And like I got all sad and alge 0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:18.840 Crumper started patting my leg and he's like, it's okay, Gronk, 0:43:18.960 --> 0:43:19.759 he doesn't mean it. 0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:23.360 And I was like, yeah he does, alg Man, he 0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:23.880 means it. 0:43:24.160 --> 0:43:26.919 And let me tell you this time, you fucking throw 0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:30.640 me the ball like a thousand times after so I 0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:32.880 knew he was all bullshit. I'm telling me he was 0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:34.640 never gonna throw me the ball again. I was literally 0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:36.400 like but that fired me up. I was like, all right, 0:43:36.400 --> 0:43:39.239 I'm gonna show this guy. But that's the leadership he had. 0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:42.719 He was brutally honest and he would freaking get you 0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:45.960 to go to the next level, which was crazy, which 0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:48.480 was crazy. He was so good at it, but I 0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:50.680 was so annoyed because I couldn't get outside the guy. 0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:53.200 I'm like, I want to Big Tom, run the freaking route. 0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:55.560 I guarantee you can't get outside the guy either. He's 0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:57.440 three hours outside of me. And then if I got 0:43:57.480 --> 0:43:59.560 outside him, it was basically like an out route I 0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:01.360 was running because I would have to flatten it so 0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:03.520 much so I couldn't really run the corner route. 0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:05.560 And you get in the other responsibility to the other guy, Well, 0:44:05.600 --> 0:44:07.480 he just wanted to get a defender in practice, he's 0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:08.720 playing the play, yeah. 0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:10.279 And then and he knew the place. He just wanted 0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:12.920 to get the point across, ye like. So it was 0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:15.440 just always in my memory, and every time I ran 0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:18.080 a route, it was kind of just like on autopilot, 0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:21.400 just to get outside of the defender. So I was 0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:24.160 annoyed at that, and you know, with that situation, but uh, 0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:27.839 you know, times of change. I started running routes where 0:44:27.840 --> 0:44:29.640 I would go inside the guy and then he would 0:44:29.640 --> 0:44:31.560 still throw me the ball as well later on, because 0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:34.120 he's like, all right, he proved, he proved. 0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:35.680 It enough that you can do it. Well, then you 0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:37.680 guys start throwing the back shoulder shit. Yeah, And then 0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:40.000 we started doing all that. Also. I also used to 0:44:40.080 --> 0:44:43.160 get really annoyed when in meeting rooms, if he liked you, 0:44:43.280 --> 0:44:47.600 and I felt both of these. I felt when he 0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:50.200 liked the guy, he'd like he would like love them up. 0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:52.440 And then there'd be so like when when Wes was there. 0:44:52.480 --> 0:44:55.080 I get so annoyed when I would do the exact 0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:59.760 same thing that Wes would do and he he wouldn't 0:44:59.800 --> 0:45:02.600 think it was good, and I would get so fucking 0:45:02.640 --> 0:45:05.920 annoyed with him. But I remember when West left, then 0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:08.400 I was that guy. There was guys doing trying to 0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:10.840 do that what I would do, and he wouldn't. So 0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:14.000 like I would get annoyed with that so much when 0:45:14.040 --> 0:45:16.640 he would always bring up, like, babe, just do it 0:45:16.680 --> 0:45:19.279 a little more like Wessey. He called him Wessy. When 0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:21.840 he called him Wessy, Remember Wessy, Hm, I used to 0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:23.120 get so annoyed. 0:45:23.920 --> 0:45:25.239 You want to know what I would get annoyed with 0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:27.600 him too. It's like we're in the off season. We 0:45:27.760 --> 0:45:29.920 just ran fifty routes. It's like you and I out there, 0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:33.120 only we're dead tired. It's ninety degrees outside, middle of 0:45:33.160 --> 0:45:35.359 the summer, and he'd be like one more, just one 0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:37.120 more route, because he's just throwing the ball. His arm 0:45:37.160 --> 0:45:39.320 can throw one hundred and fifty passes a day, and 0:45:39.400 --> 0:45:42.160 we're running the freaking fifty routes and he's been one more, 0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:44.160 so then we would run, run more. We give it 0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:46.279 all all. We're about to throw up. It's middle of 0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:49.000 the summer. We probably are hungover. He has no clue 0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:53.000 what that's like because he used to He used to, yeah, 0:45:53.040 --> 0:45:55.480 and then he became lame. Yeah, he became lame for 0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:56.240 like a couple. 0:45:56.080 --> 0:45:57.279 Of years now. 0:45:57.400 --> 0:46:01.160 He back in the day, I guess he wasn't lame. 0:46:01.200 --> 0:46:03.080 If you're saying he's not lame, he was lame. Okay, 0:46:03.239 --> 0:46:03.920 say it, Jules. 0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:07.600 You know he was lame. Yeah, like when it came 0:46:07.719 --> 0:46:11.480 when it came to that, he was lame. But we 0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:13.360 didn't get him when he was young. Yeah, I know. 0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:15.520 He was already thirty three when I first met him, 0:46:15.680 --> 0:46:18.440 and then when I were thirty, freaking lame at thirty 0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:21.279 three years old, complaint. Compare it to when I was 0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:24.080 freaking twenty one, twenty eight years old. 0:46:24.440 --> 0:46:26.480 You're right, because then he was twenty three, twenty four. 0:46:26.560 --> 0:46:28.440 He was the there's you know, he was the best 0:46:28.520 --> 0:46:30.520 chugger on the team. He was like he was a 0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:33.759 dude's dude. So back to the story, like he'd be 0:46:34.040 --> 0:46:35.080 one more and then you would. 0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:37.239 You would run one more route and they'd beck one 0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:39.120 more and then you just be like, Tom, I'm not 0:46:40.200 --> 0:46:42.439 off and running one more. I just ran fifty routes, 0:46:42.440 --> 0:46:44.279 you know, one more, but one more you want to 0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:44.680 get better? 0:46:44.800 --> 0:46:45.200 One more. 0:46:45.520 --> 0:46:47.359 And then it'd be like fifteen more routes and then 0:46:47.560 --> 0:46:49.480 finally it was the last one and it. 0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:52.560 Was fifty and then you get to seventy five. He's 0:46:52.600 --> 0:46:55.520 like he just wanted seventy five throws. Yeah he was 0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:58.400 seven five throws. Whatever Tom says, you do, you gotta, 0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:03.200 you got your son. I remember those days, man. That 0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:04.239 what made us great? Though. 0:47:05.120 --> 0:47:07.120 What was the moment that, like you felt like you 0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:11.239 truly gained his trust and that he could rely on 0:47:11.360 --> 0:47:13.200 you even if you mess up again. 0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:15.840 He knows that you're still reliable. You know what I'm saying. 0:47:16.520 --> 0:47:17.479 What was that moment? 0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:20.320 What was that catch? What was that play if it 0:47:20.440 --> 0:47:23.080 was a practice or if it was left well, because 0:47:23.120 --> 0:47:25.760 he loved he loved West. You just were not playing 0:47:25.880 --> 0:47:28.719 when Wes was Okay, Jules, no, but you couldn't have 0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:29.880 Tom Brady's trust. 0:47:29.719 --> 0:47:32.080 When you were when you were on when West left, 0:47:32.120 --> 0:47:33.240 you didn't like a bunch of players. 0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:34.320 Okay, he didn't like it. 0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:38.160 It was when he left he had no one. He 0:47:38.280 --> 0:47:41.359 had to trust me. You had all right, and then 0:47:41.400 --> 0:47:44.279 it was weird. It was weak one in thirteen where 0:47:44.600 --> 0:47:48.040 we played Buffalo and we went out there and we won. 0:47:48.760 --> 0:47:53.080 I had two touchdowns and and that's when I felt 0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:55.600 like all right, because we had some We had some 0:47:55.760 --> 0:47:58.719 spurts where you know, West would we get banged up 0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:01.400 and he wouldn't play, being like, trust me, trust me 0:48:01.760 --> 0:48:04.279 until you had to be the guy, until you had 0:48:04.320 --> 0:48:06.440 to be the guy. Yes, and then he truly trusted you. 0:48:06.760 --> 0:48:07.719 And that's the situation. 0:48:07.840 --> 0:48:11.319 Though he doesn't really trust a guy that you know, yeah, 0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:13.879 he's not able to throw to. He's got to see 0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:17.200 eighteen times a practice, you know, he has to see it. 0:48:17.480 --> 0:48:20.080 He has to do the repetitions with you in order 0:48:20.160 --> 0:48:23.280 to truly gain your trust. And it doesn't happen overnight. 0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:26.280 Now he gained your trust and you gain his trust 0:48:26.320 --> 0:48:29.759 as well, you know, just over time, over time. I 0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:32.680 would say my situation was when we played the Chicago 0:48:32.760 --> 0:48:35.600 Bears on the one on one panther route when I 0:48:35.719 --> 0:48:38.280 was going over in the snow yeah, versus Brian or Lacker, 0:48:38.560 --> 0:48:40.360 and he wanted to gain my trust. He wants to 0:48:40.440 --> 0:48:43.400 see me be physical. That's why he always emphasized me, 0:48:43.600 --> 0:48:48.600 be fucking physical. Gronk your two hundred and sixty pounds 0:48:48.640 --> 0:48:51.560 you're going versus one hundred eighty pounders or linebackers that 0:48:51.640 --> 0:48:56.440 you're still bigger than Be physical and h This was 0:48:56.480 --> 0:48:58.640 the playpanther out one out run. I run into the 0:48:58.760 --> 0:49:00.720 end zone, kind of hit the guy with my shoulder 0:49:00.760 --> 0:49:02.239 and then turn around and the ball will be right there. 0:49:02.239 --> 0:49:04.520 Because when you're physical, you know, pushes the guy back 0:49:04.560 --> 0:49:06.320 a little bit. When you use your shoulder, you turn around, 0:49:06.320 --> 0:49:08.880 then there's that little ounce of separation and Tom can 0:49:08.960 --> 0:49:10.719 see that. He can see the field. He can see 0:49:10.960 --> 0:49:13.560 all the separation in the world, hes it, he sees it. 0:49:13.680 --> 0:49:16.200 He can see every little detail that's going out on 0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:19.200 the field. And when he sees that little detail on 0:49:19.280 --> 0:49:22.000 that route, you know, with the physicality, knows he knows 0:49:22.040 --> 0:49:22.839 that you're going to be open. 0:49:22.880 --> 0:49:23.880 There's gonna be a little window. 0:49:24.080 --> 0:49:26.360 I hit Brian Urlack and we practice it, and that 0:49:26.520 --> 0:49:28.120 Friday he says, I want to see that in the 0:49:28.160 --> 0:49:30.680 game because I ran it great on Friday. So the 0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:33.480 game comes when I won versus Brian Lacer give him 0:49:33.480 --> 0:49:35.719 the shoulder turn right around the balls, right there, nice 0:49:35.760 --> 0:49:37.759 and low where it's always supposed to be in the 0:49:37.840 --> 0:49:38.319 red zone. 0:49:38.480 --> 0:49:39.279 Boom, catch it. 0:49:39.520 --> 0:49:42.640 And ever since then I gained Tom Brady's trust right 0:49:42.719 --> 0:49:44.440 there and then on the spot, which was. 0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:47.000 One of the greatest moments of my career. Yeah, I 0:49:47.160 --> 0:49:51.440 remember that he is you know, he had to see it. 0:49:52.640 --> 0:49:55.400 That's what makes him. He's a dog man. He's assassin. 0:49:55.640 --> 0:49:57.880 He is an assassin. What's your favorite Tone memory? 0:49:58.640 --> 0:50:01.480 My favorite Tom memory is actually, this is one of 0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:04.080 my favorite memories of all time. You know, when we 0:50:04.160 --> 0:50:06.480 were playing the Indianapolis Colts and I ran that five 0:50:06.560 --> 0:50:09.719 yard out route, caught it versus d Kwel Jackson. I 0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:11.719 did a little spin move, he kind of fell, did 0:50:11.760 --> 0:50:12.719 a little split. 0:50:12.800 --> 0:50:16.000 It was like, very great route by me. Great after 0:50:16.080 --> 0:50:19.200 the catch too. And then I'm running, you know, I'm going. 0:50:19.320 --> 0:50:21.920 There's a couple other guys and here comes Julian adamman 0:50:22.200 --> 0:50:25.360 Ka Boom just absolutely levels Adams. 0:50:25.000 --> 0:50:26.960 The safety, you know, gets them out of my way. 0:50:27.000 --> 0:50:30.680 I'm like, thanks Jules for the block, you know, and 0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:33.640 then I'm running into the end zone. I jump over Butler. 0:50:33.800 --> 0:50:36.160 Yeah, dB, yeah, DBI. 0:50:36.239 --> 0:50:38.560 What's his first name again, Yeah, Darius Butler, who was 0:50:38.640 --> 0:50:42.000 previously on the on the Patriots and then he went 0:50:42.040 --> 0:50:44.360 to the Colts and now he's doing he's doing a 0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:46.560 great job in the media. Yeah, it was a McAfee show. 0:50:46.600 --> 0:50:48.680 He's doing a great job. So shout out to Darius Butler. 0:50:48.760 --> 0:50:51.800 But I jumped over his ass. Made me look goods 0:50:52.160 --> 0:50:54.400 flipped into the end zone. I looked like an athletic 0:50:54.440 --> 0:50:58.360 one hundred and eighty pound wide receiver. And then this 0:50:58.920 --> 0:51:01.279 was the moment, one of my favorite moments with him. 0:51:01.520 --> 0:51:04.760 Tom loved the route, loved the catch, loved your block. 0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:06.200 He was so pumped up. 0:51:06.680 --> 0:51:09.279 He ran full speed from the thirty guy line and 0:51:09.520 --> 0:51:12.160 probably because I got him a touchdown on a play 0:51:12.239 --> 0:51:14.600 where it never should have been a touchdown. Yeah, and 0:51:15.200 --> 0:51:17.359 he came running full speed and jumped on my back 0:51:17.440 --> 0:51:18.359 and went for a ride. 0:51:18.440 --> 0:51:21.480 Man. He was. He was like a pony on a horse. Man. 0:51:21.600 --> 0:51:22.960 I brought him for a ride. Man. 0:51:23.360 --> 0:51:27.160 I was carrying Tom Brady around in the freaking end zone. 0:51:27.200 --> 0:51:29.879 He was. He was on my back. 0:51:30.320 --> 0:51:33.360 Put the pony on the horse. I was waiting for 0:51:33.440 --> 0:51:35.279 him to drop that quarter in so the rock can 0:51:35.440 --> 0:51:40.920 keep on going. Yes, I didn't want him to get off. 0:51:40.960 --> 0:51:44.160 I was like, Tom Brady's on my back, like like, 0:51:44.360 --> 0:51:48.600 what else do I need in my life? Oh my god. Yeah, 0:51:48.640 --> 0:51:50.560 And it's one of my favorite pictures to sign to 0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:53.000 this day as well. I don't think he ever signed it. 0:51:53.200 --> 0:51:55.239 It costs like five billion dollars to get him to 0:51:55.239 --> 0:51:57.760 sign a picture. So like I always signed the picture 0:51:58.120 --> 0:52:00.880 on my back and like I'm waiting for that picture 0:52:00.880 --> 0:52:02.960 to be worth a lot more money once he signs it. 0:52:03.040 --> 0:52:05.399 The couple, you know. But he hasn't signed it yet. 0:52:06.840 --> 0:52:07.040 Man. 0:52:07.640 --> 0:52:10.759 That was a fucking fun play. That was a fun play. 0:52:10.840 --> 0:52:14.720 Thank you for that block. Oh you level Adams. Adams, 0:52:14.840 --> 0:52:18.120 he's talking in the safety was the battle he was 0:52:18.200 --> 0:52:21.000 with Denver battle. He battled us a lot. Man. He 0:52:21.080 --> 0:52:22.720 brought it, He brought it to and he wasn't scared. 0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:24.719 He was good. Yeah, there it is. 0:52:24.760 --> 0:52:27.319 There's a picture right there. Oh wait, he signed there 0:52:27.360 --> 0:52:29.799 it is. Man, he's going for a ride. I'm still 0:52:29.880 --> 0:52:31.160 waiting for those corners. 0:52:31.239 --> 0:52:34.800 Tom. Oh my gosh, there's. 0:52:34.680 --> 0:52:36.400 Tim Wright right in the back too. We won the 0:52:36.440 --> 0:52:38.840 Super Bowl this year, didn't we And we won a 0:52:38.880 --> 0:52:41.440 super Bowl this year. Yeah, yeah, I think it was 0:52:41.719 --> 0:52:43.800 who Man was was a tight end as well in 0:52:43.840 --> 0:52:45.640 the two tim right and who Man? 0:52:45.920 --> 0:52:49.080 I love who Man? All right, what was your favorite memory, Jules? 0:52:49.680 --> 0:52:56.160 My favorite memory was when we it it kind of 0:52:56.560 --> 0:53:02.840 that fourteen when he, uh, we hit that route. He 0:53:02.960 --> 0:53:05.680 came up to me afterwards and he and he goes, 0:53:05.800 --> 0:53:08.920 that was a championship route, man, and like it was 0:53:09.440 --> 0:53:12.360 nothing crazy, that's special. And he when he you know, 0:53:12.480 --> 0:53:15.960 he goes, that was a championship play man. And we 0:53:16.040 --> 0:53:16.759 didn't win the game. 0:53:16.719 --> 0:53:20.759 Yet right now because him saying that's a championship route, 0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:21.839 that's a championship play. 0:53:21.920 --> 0:53:26.480 That means a lot. Yeah, And and then afterwards when 0:53:26.560 --> 0:53:29.840 he we won, you know, like that was his That 0:53:29.960 --> 0:53:33.239 was when he got four and I just remember, you know, 0:53:33.440 --> 0:53:35.200 there were so many memories of him, like you said, 0:53:35.239 --> 0:53:38.719 how he's having the ticker of the super Bowl location 0:53:39.160 --> 0:53:42.000 and the whole story where I said, man, I'm gonna 0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:44.759 help you try to get to Joe. And because we 0:53:44.840 --> 0:53:47.800 were both Bay Area fans, love Joe Montana and I 0:53:47.920 --> 0:53:50.080 told me he was the greatest quarterback of all time, 0:53:50.400 --> 0:53:54.200 and you know that all that was just a fun 0:53:54.280 --> 0:53:57.360 memory there's so many it's it's hard to fucking do 0:53:57.440 --> 0:54:00.000 one kind of all right, I mean I'm gonna start. 0:54:00.480 --> 0:54:01.239 I know me too. 0:54:01.680 --> 0:54:03.640 There's there's a lot of memories with Tom. It's just 0:54:03.719 --> 0:54:05.560 great to see him. He's doing so good in the 0:54:05.640 --> 0:54:08.759 broadcasting booth. I mean, if he just puts in ten 0:54:08.800 --> 0:54:11.560 percent of the effort that he did with the game 0:54:11.640 --> 0:54:14.879 of football in his after career, in his post career 0:54:14.920 --> 0:54:16.360 after football, he's gonna. 0:54:16.239 --> 0:54:19.279 Have the whole world just which you know he is 0:54:19.440 --> 0:54:20.080 to eat from. 0:54:20.320 --> 0:54:23.640 He's gonna be successful and anything that he does, and 0:54:23.800 --> 0:54:26.040 that's what he's gonna do. He's actually gonna go one 0:54:26.120 --> 0:54:28.319 hundred percent all in with what he does. He's great 0:54:28.360 --> 0:54:30.560 in the booth, like I said, and he's been improving 0:54:30.719 --> 0:54:33.800 so much every single week and it just shows he 0:54:34.160 --> 0:54:36.600 is actually a human. I mean, Week one, he was good, 0:54:36.680 --> 0:54:39.040 he got the win, but he definitely could improve. And 0:54:39.120 --> 0:54:40.800 then all of a sudden Week two and three, You're like, 0:54:40.880 --> 0:54:43.080 what the heck? How did he just go from being 0:54:43.160 --> 0:54:46.080 like a rookie quarterback to a veteran quarterback in one 0:54:46.160 --> 0:54:49.239 week in the broadcast booth. So just shout out to him. 0:54:49.280 --> 0:54:51.520 I mean, he dedicates himself, and he works on his 0:54:51.680 --> 0:54:55.120 craft like like no one ever has before. 0:54:55.200 --> 0:54:57.480 And that's what makes him, you know, the greatest, the 0:54:57.560 --> 0:55:01.480 greatest at ever. He cares about making the people look 0:55:01.640 --> 0:55:06.160 right that give him opportunity. He does. That's he cares 0:55:06.200 --> 0:55:06.480 about that. 0:55:06.520 --> 0:55:09.200 He takes it to heart, and he cares about showing 0:55:09.800 --> 0:55:13.360 the people that has passed on him that they fucked 0:55:13.440 --> 0:55:13.799 up too. 0:55:14.239 --> 0:55:16.680 Yeah, he loves that. He likes that. So don't ever 0:55:16.800 --> 0:55:19.600 pass on Tom Brady. No, I won't. The only thing 0:55:19.640 --> 0:55:22.960 I'll pass on is that I was kind of a 0:55:22.960 --> 0:55:25.200 little hesitant when I said he was lame, But he 0:55:25.360 --> 0:55:28.640 was pretty lame except for when he wins a Super 0:55:28.680 --> 0:55:30.520 Bowl in Tampa Bay and he gets hammered on a 0:55:30.560 --> 0:55:34.120 damn boat. Like, where was that fucking Tom around us? 0:55:35.320 --> 0:55:38.000 I was bullshit, like I was waiting for that the 0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:41.040 whole entire time in New England. 0:55:43.320 --> 0:55:43.640 I was. 0:55:44.000 --> 0:55:46.000 That's why I went to Tampa Bay. I went there 0:55:46.040 --> 0:55:48.759 for that moment. I didn't really want to play football again. 0:55:49.719 --> 0:55:51.879 I just wanted that moment that I could actually get 0:55:51.960 --> 0:55:54.520 wasted with Tom. But guess what, he was on a 0:55:54.560 --> 0:55:56.440 separate boat than me. I didn't even see him at 0:55:56.480 --> 0:55:59.200 the at that boat, right, So guess what, I still 0:55:59.280 --> 0:56:01.799 never had a drink with Tom. It took me all 0:56:01.840 --> 0:56:04.600 the way until the Roast to have a drink with 0:56:04.719 --> 0:56:06.759 Tom Brady. And that's why it was in the roast. 0:56:07.040 --> 0:56:09.080 I said, Tom, I never had a shot with you 0:56:09.320 --> 0:56:11.440 ever in my life or a drink, and he took 0:56:11.480 --> 0:56:14.279 a shot with me at the roast. So that was 0:56:14.400 --> 0:56:16.839 that was a cool moment. Yeah, well, I mean it's 0:56:16.840 --> 0:56:18.879 been thirty three minutes. How long can we talk about 0:56:18.920 --> 0:56:20.600 this guy? I think maybe we should have him on 0:56:20.719 --> 0:56:24.759 again for another episode because I got literally I can 0:56:24.840 --> 0:56:26.880 talk about this guy all day long. I could go 0:56:27.239 --> 0:56:29.440 literally two hours. The more we talk about him, the 0:56:29.480 --> 0:56:31.920 more stories that pop up in my head. Same, the 0:56:32.040 --> 0:56:35.680 more stories about him on the field, off the field, 0:56:36.200 --> 0:56:37.799 what it's like to be around him. We could talk 0:56:37.920 --> 0:56:40.279 literally for four hours straight. Jewels, what kind of du 0:56:40.600 --> 0:56:43.200 tell me what time of well? What type of dude 0:56:43.280 --> 0:56:45.520 is Tom Brady? Ladies and gentlemen, I think he is. 0:56:45.719 --> 0:56:49.080 I think this is easy, freak dog whiz. I think 0:56:49.160 --> 0:56:52.120 this is easy dude. Dude, I don't know what do 0:56:52.200 --> 0:56:52.480 you think? 0:56:52.560 --> 0:56:53.520 If it's easy, let's hear what. 0:56:53.640 --> 0:57:00.319 Let's see, he's a fucking dog He is a dog mental, physical, toughness, 0:57:00.520 --> 0:57:04.080 always motivated. He didn't have the pedigree he was he was. 0:57:04.280 --> 0:57:07.800 We saw the Brady six of the the six guys 0:57:07.920 --> 0:57:11.200 before him taking in the draft. Like he always had 0:57:11.239 --> 0:57:13.279 to go to long road. He always had to work 0:57:13.360 --> 0:57:15.400 for everything. Even when he was at his top, they 0:57:15.440 --> 0:57:19.240 were always talking about someone else. He's a fucking dog. 0:57:19.560 --> 0:57:21.440 I want to say freak, because a freak is like 0:57:21.600 --> 0:57:24.720 someone that has like the most athletic ability in the world. 0:57:24.800 --> 0:57:27.880 And he didn't really have the most athletic ability. But 0:57:28.120 --> 0:57:30.240 what's made him so great was that he didn't need 0:57:30.320 --> 0:57:34.640 the athletic ability because the dog was working harder than 0:57:34.680 --> 0:57:38.280 the athletic dog. You know that wasn't the freak dog 0:57:38.360 --> 0:57:41.080 that really or the freaky person that wasn't really working. 0:57:41.360 --> 0:57:46.840 I think he's got illness like shooting, like basically like 0:57:47.120 --> 0:57:47.640 it's kind of. 0:57:47.640 --> 0:57:49.320 Like an archer freak instincts. 0:57:49.520 --> 0:57:52.920 He could throw, Yes, he could throw rocks really good. 0:57:52.960 --> 0:57:55.320 He could probably skip a rock really really really has 0:57:55.640 --> 0:57:58.479 he probably really got a pool Yeah, like King Pong 0:57:58.600 --> 0:58:01.360 king Pom what I I Yeah, you always beat him? 0:58:01.640 --> 0:58:02.480 Never mind, he's not going. 0:58:03.840 --> 0:58:06.160 Yeah, he gets really mad when he loves that's a dog. 0:58:06.440 --> 0:58:08.440 That is a dog. That's a dog. He wants to 0:58:08.480 --> 0:58:10.760 want to go gun now wants to go. Guy, he won't. 0:58:11.320 --> 0:58:13.520 He wants to go again. Won't let you fucking leave. 0:58:13.560 --> 0:58:16.200 I mean, we haven't even got to This guy's looks 0:58:16.280 --> 0:58:19.080 got either. I mean we can just say that he's 0:58:19.080 --> 0:58:21.479 a stud real quick, just because of how good he looks. 0:58:21.600 --> 0:58:25.480 Yeah, I mean he looks younger than when. Yeah, he 0:58:25.600 --> 0:58:29.960 got in the NFL. Like his chins, jawline freaking, just 0:58:30.320 --> 0:58:31.800 his beautiful blue eyes. 0:58:31.880 --> 0:58:34.000 I posted a picture that day on Instagram, like he's 0:58:34.040 --> 0:58:37.280 got like a six pack now, like his arms are jacked, Like. 0:58:37.760 --> 0:58:40.240 I mean, he's doing two days. He is doing to days. 0:58:40.360 --> 0:58:42.439 He's doing two days right now. He's got his body, 0:58:42.480 --> 0:58:45.480 he's still. So that's why maybe Ai was fucking right. 0:58:46.520 --> 0:58:50.520 He's maybe coming back. AI is is Tom Brady coming back? 0:58:50.920 --> 0:58:51.360 I don't know. 0:58:51.480 --> 0:58:54.560 He got six pack, he got a little his hair 0:58:54.680 --> 0:58:57.160 is looking as brown as ever. He gave me this 0:58:57.280 --> 0:59:00.320 supplement that he saw my great hair. And he goes, 0:59:00.360 --> 0:59:03.720 babe here and he's take this fucking uisha I think 0:59:03.760 --> 0:59:06.800 it's like uisha ou or something in some Chinese medicine 0:59:06.840 --> 0:59:07.000 and you. 0:59:07.080 --> 0:59:10.200 Put it in the shake and her hair is already growing. 0:59:10.720 --> 0:59:12.000 It is my hair darker. 0:59:12.440 --> 0:59:14.479 That's why I don't have a hat show. I wanted 0:59:14.520 --> 0:59:16.760 to show off my hair because I've got oh, we 0:59:16.880 --> 0:59:17.640 shall product. 0:59:17.920 --> 0:59:22.600 It's like I don't know how to pronounce it'h ooh oushi. 0:59:22.720 --> 0:59:26.320 I got hair it whatever it is. Look at how 0:59:26.400 --> 0:59:29.920 good his hair looks. It's just good looking guy. Man. 0:59:30.160 --> 0:59:31.960 He's a dog, all right, He's a dog. He is 0:59:32.040 --> 0:59:32.320 a dog. 0:59:32.400 --> 0:59:35.480 It's official. Tom Brady is a dog. 0:59:37.680 --> 0:59:39.800 Man. We can talk about him forever. We'll be right 0:59:39.880 --> 0:59:42.800 back after this quick break. What dude, do we have 0:59:44.800 --> 0:59:48.080 this moment? Here we go AI summary. 0:59:48.920 --> 0:59:51.440 Oh, we have a coach here at Jules coach this 0:59:51.760 --> 0:59:54.840 NFL coach and former player Sands that's six foot four 0:59:54.920 --> 0:59:57.880 inches tall. That's two inches shorter than me and weighs 0:59:57.960 --> 1:00:01.040 two hundred and sixty one pounds out of eight pounds. 1:00:00.840 --> 1:00:01.240 Less than me. 1:00:01.400 --> 1:00:05.880 Jules versus seventy eight eight pounds, he's too sixty one. 1:00:06.440 --> 1:00:09.320 Here's two sixty one plus eight sixty nine. Yes, I'm 1:00:09.320 --> 1:00:12.120 two sixty nine, so I'm eight pounds more than this coach. 1:00:12.760 --> 1:00:15.960 A versa towle linebacker who played for the Pittsburgh Steelers, 1:00:16.600 --> 1:00:19.400 New England Patriots, and Kansas City Chiefs. 1:00:19.880 --> 1:00:21.560 Can you guess who this is? Yet? I know it 1:00:21.680 --> 1:00:25.080 is it? After being drafted in the third round in 1:00:25.200 --> 1:00:29.320 nineteen ninety seven, ninety seven, he's so old. I was 1:00:30.120 --> 1:00:33.920 like eight years old then I was like eleven. 1:00:34.320 --> 1:00:36.640 He won three Super Bowls with the Patriots and in 1:00:36.720 --> 1:00:38.960 first team All Pro honors in two thousand and seven, 1:00:39.520 --> 1:00:42.680 known for his tough, physical play and leadership. 1:00:42.320 --> 1:00:42.920 On the field. 1:00:43.360 --> 1:00:45.800 Well, that kind of translates to while he's a coach 1:00:45.880 --> 1:00:49.919 now and while also moonlighting as a goal line tight end. 1:00:49.880 --> 1:00:52.360 Goals like tight end more touchdowns than me, I think 1:00:53.600 --> 1:00:53.800 in the. 1:00:53.840 --> 1:00:58.920 Super Bowl, but not overall. Growing up in Akron, Ohio, 1:00:59.440 --> 1:01:01.200 oh so he has some roots with you, man, He 1:01:01.320 --> 1:01:05.720 has Ohio guys. He played college football at the Ohio 1:01:05.840 --> 1:01:11.480 State University. After retiring as a player, he transitioned to coaching, 1:01:11.960 --> 1:01:14.080 serving as a head coach in the NFL for six 1:01:14.160 --> 1:01:16.640 seasons before taking on his current role as a head 1:01:16.720 --> 1:01:17.520 coach of. 1:01:17.680 --> 1:01:21.400 The New England Patriots. There we go, ladies and gentlemen, 1:01:22.440 --> 1:01:25.360 and this dude, let's get on Mike Rabel. 1:01:27.440 --> 1:01:33.360 Mike Rabel, Ladies, Hey, Jules what's the first thing you 1:01:33.520 --> 1:01:36.720 think of when you hear the name Mike Rabel. 1:01:37.120 --> 1:01:39.480 The first thing that comes to my mind is just 1:01:39.560 --> 1:01:42.600 a tough guy. He's just a tough how tough like 1:01:42.840 --> 1:01:44.800 And actually the first thing comes in my mind as 1:01:44.800 --> 1:01:48.600 an asshole asshole because he's just here, I mean, a 1:01:48.680 --> 1:01:51.080 tough asshole, A tough asshole. Okay, there we go. We 1:01:51.280 --> 1:01:55.680 never played with Rabes, but because of how legendary he. 1:01:56.080 --> 1:01:58.320 Only heard stories, the stories. 1:01:59.480 --> 1:02:04.960 We're all he's about like three people, Rabel, Bruski, and Izzo, 1:02:05.520 --> 1:02:07.840 and like Rabes was always at the helm of these 1:02:07.920 --> 1:02:12.880 crazy stories that just floated around the Patriots locker room, 1:02:13.520 --> 1:02:16.560 busting balls. That comes to my head, like I always, 1:02:17.720 --> 1:02:21.200 you always kind of remember hearing how Rabes would get 1:02:21.280 --> 1:02:25.040 on to Brady and and Brady would get on Rabes 1:02:25.200 --> 1:02:29.800 and those those wars that practice. What's the first thing 1:02:29.840 --> 1:02:33.600 that comes to your mind? A tough soob. 1:02:33.840 --> 1:02:37.800 You know, a football player, a guy that has knowledge 1:02:38.080 --> 1:02:41.080 of the game as a player and as a coach, 1:02:41.600 --> 1:02:44.000 and he's from Ohio and let me tell you, Ohio 1:02:44.080 --> 1:02:47.640 football is underrated. And you learn a lot about you know, 1:02:47.760 --> 1:02:50.480 football and who you are, you know as a person, 1:02:50.520 --> 1:02:52.600 as Well, when you grow up in the state of Ohio. 1:02:52.680 --> 1:02:53.360 How do I know that? 1:02:53.560 --> 1:02:57.000 Because I played my senior year in Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh 1:02:57.120 --> 1:02:59.840 was a big rival. Just the state of Pennsylvania was 1:02:59.840 --> 1:03:01.880 a big rival to the state of Ohio, and you 1:03:02.000 --> 1:03:05.720 got the Pittsburgh versus Ohio, you know whatever that you know, 1:03:05.840 --> 1:03:10.080 all Star games and uh just have you know, just 1:03:10.360 --> 1:03:13.520 our tough, tough players come out of you know, come 1:03:13.560 --> 1:03:15.560 out of the state Ohio and Pennsylvania. 1:03:15.600 --> 1:03:16.400 They're very similar. 1:03:16.400 --> 1:03:19.080 They're kind of underrated compared to you know, you always 1:03:19.120 --> 1:03:22.320 hear about Florida, California, or Texas. All that's where all 1:03:22.320 --> 1:03:25.320 the starts, all the tough guys come from, you know, 1:03:25.800 --> 1:03:29.760 the Upper East, you know, in the US like Ohio, Pennsylvania, 1:03:29.960 --> 1:03:30.400 New York. 1:03:30.800 --> 1:03:35.520 But uh, he's he's a football guy football. Did you 1:03:35.640 --> 1:03:38.320 just try to throw New York through New York? Did 1:03:38.360 --> 1:03:42.560 you just try to sneakly throw New York football tough guys? 1:03:42.640 --> 1:03:45.040 Yeah, because I'm from Buffalo and I went to uh 1:03:45.480 --> 1:03:48.080 you know, like I said, I went to Pittsburgh. 1:03:50.360 --> 1:03:50.480 Year. 1:03:50.600 --> 1:03:54.320 But yeah, Buffalo they got some tough sobs here. I'm 1:03:54.360 --> 1:03:57.360 telling you, they got they got me, they got my 1:03:57.480 --> 1:03:59.960 brother who played in the NFL. My other brother who 1:04:00.040 --> 1:04:03.480 played in the NFL too, And yeah, yeah, we're rolling, baby, 1:04:03.920 --> 1:04:09.400 We're rolling, freaking. What's what stands out to me when 1:04:09.440 --> 1:04:11.840 we were talking about him the other day though, is 1:04:12.960 --> 1:04:13.240 how he. 1:04:13.360 --> 1:04:16.040 Was drafted in the third round to the Pittsburgh Steelers. 1:04:16.080 --> 1:04:18.080 And you told me that fact, and it was kind 1:04:18.080 --> 1:04:20.560 of shocking to me because I thought he was a 1:04:20.640 --> 1:04:25.080 New England Patriot from day one because of just all 1:04:25.120 --> 1:04:28.080 the stories that you heard about him, just the way 1:04:28.160 --> 1:04:29.840 that he played the game when he was in New 1:04:29.880 --> 1:04:31.720 England and what he did for you know. 1:04:31.800 --> 1:04:32.800 The Patriots as well. 1:04:32.920 --> 1:04:36.640 So I had absolutely no clue that he got drafted 1:04:37.000 --> 1:04:39.440 to the Steelers. Can you tell me how that happened 1:04:39.480 --> 1:04:41.080 as well, how he got to New England because you 1:04:41.160 --> 1:04:42.800 kind of were telling me a little bit. 1:04:43.640 --> 1:04:46.280 Well, he was a teamer, I mean, he played in Pittsburgh. 1:04:46.560 --> 1:04:49.640 I think he was drafted ninety seven, was a special teamer. 1:04:50.240 --> 1:04:53.120 And then I think once he became a free agent, 1:04:53.560 --> 1:04:56.120 Bill like really wanted him or something. Was that it? 1:04:57.360 --> 1:04:59.880 Yeah, So why does Bill have like this nag of 1:05:00.120 --> 1:05:03.400 just finding these white dudes that just want to play football, 1:05:03.600 --> 1:05:05.920 just work hard, and they're not so good at the moment, 1:05:06.120 --> 1:05:07.120 and then he just blossoms. 1:05:07.520 --> 1:05:09.440 First thing, the guy sitting next to me like that, 1:05:10.200 --> 1:05:15.400 I mean, that's his projector Nikovichikovich was a long snapper 1:05:16.120 --> 1:05:17.160 welker in Miami. 1:05:17.240 --> 1:05:18.680 I mean what what was he just kind of a 1:05:18.760 --> 1:05:19.440 punt returner. 1:05:19.840 --> 1:05:22.760 Yeah, seventy catches. Yet he had a big year. He 1:05:22.840 --> 1:05:24.920 had a big year, not like a. 1:05:25.000 --> 1:05:27.960 Huge year like he had in New England. For he 1:05:28.040 --> 1:05:29.760 had a decent, solid year in Miami. 1:05:30.040 --> 1:05:35.680 No, but yeah, Mike was the guy that Bill always 1:05:35.760 --> 1:05:39.240 used to reference like you think you're smart, you're not 1:05:39.440 --> 1:05:43.280 no frable like and that's that's when you know someone's 1:05:43.320 --> 1:05:47.160 a smart football players when Bill's referencing him in mother 1:05:47.280 --> 1:05:50.640 Fucking you you know like that. That was always kind 1:05:50.680 --> 1:05:53.360 of like one thing that stuck out. And then just 1:05:53.440 --> 1:05:56.160 hearing from like Jimmy Whalen the training staff on how 1:05:56.240 --> 1:05:59.640 vrabel was in the locker room like hell, Corey was 1:05:59.680 --> 1:06:02.920 like hey, him and Willie Mack and Brew like he 1:06:03.160 --> 1:06:05.480 there was like the holy trinity of guys that everyone 1:06:05.520 --> 1:06:08.560 had to walk through that kept everyone accountable. And I'm 1:06:08.600 --> 1:06:11.360 really you know, I'm pretty excited. I'm excited for this 1:06:11.640 --> 1:06:15.080 this new generation of Patriots. Now, with that said, I 1:06:15.520 --> 1:06:19.640 still think the whole Mayo situation that he got the 1:06:19.680 --> 1:06:24.200 short end of the stick on this, and I feel 1:06:24.320 --> 1:06:26.720 terrible for him, and I think he's gonna do well, 1:06:27.480 --> 1:06:31.400 but like that really wasn't set up to really succeed, 1:06:32.000 --> 1:06:32.520 not at all. 1:06:33.120 --> 1:06:35.280 I think goes a little bit unfair. But shout out 1:06:35.280 --> 1:06:37.240 to Mayo because he's a great coach. He knows the 1:06:37.280 --> 1:06:40.840 game of football tremendously, and uh, you know, I just 1:06:40.880 --> 1:06:43.040 think that it wasn't set up properly for him, And 1:06:43.240 --> 1:06:46.320 I feel like he's gonna have some success in the future, 1:06:46.520 --> 1:06:49.200 you know, with another organization and possibly be another head 1:06:49.240 --> 1:06:51.640 coach down the road, you know, once he gets his 1:06:51.760 --> 1:06:53.040 footback on the gas pedal. 1:06:53.200 --> 1:06:58.880 But Rabel coming in now, like all this stuff that 1:06:59.120 --> 1:07:03.440 you hear keeping guys accountable, like he's gonna be the 1:07:03.480 --> 1:07:05.880 first doing and he can he can get away with 1:07:06.040 --> 1:07:11.160 saying things to guys the way he says it because 1:07:11.240 --> 1:07:14.280 he did it, he played it, and he's just as 1:07:14.320 --> 1:07:17.800 smart as the guys that coached him at it. So 1:07:17.960 --> 1:07:20.440 like when you have all those things and he's a 1:07:20.560 --> 1:07:24.680 burly motherfucker, like he's a big man. When you shake 1:07:24.720 --> 1:07:27.240 his hands, his hands wrapped to your wrists. He's got 1:07:27.320 --> 1:07:31.080 big ass hands, strength, man strang. I still think he 1:07:31.160 --> 1:07:33.560 got four or six plays in him. You think he 1:07:33.600 --> 1:07:35.600 could play right now? Four sixth plays? 1:07:35.680 --> 1:07:38.160 Yeah, four to six plays, like you know that offensive 1:07:38.160 --> 1:07:40.760 package of New England Patriots had for him. And talking 1:07:40.760 --> 1:07:43.240 about that offensive package, I think he had ten catches 1:07:43.560 --> 1:07:46.480 his whole entire career for ten touchdowns. So what a 1:07:46.560 --> 1:07:49.640 fucking from touch The TV is one hundred percent. 1:07:49.800 --> 1:07:51.240 That's in all time insane. 1:07:51.440 --> 1:07:53.600 And that's just how smart of a player he was, 1:07:53.720 --> 1:07:55.160 is that he knew how to get open on the 1:07:55.280 --> 1:07:57.480 offensive side of the ball and on top of it, 1:07:57.600 --> 1:07:58.680 on the defense side of the ball. 1:07:58.960 --> 1:08:01.800 I mean, just eight of and just just how good 1:08:01.840 --> 1:08:03.760 he was just knowing the game. You know what makes 1:08:03.840 --> 1:08:04.880 me so sad? Though? 1:08:05.560 --> 1:08:08.160 What's sad? Because what makes you sad? Now you're making 1:08:08.240 --> 1:08:08.680 me sad. 1:08:08.840 --> 1:08:11.800 No, it makes me sad because we always hear about 1:08:11.800 --> 1:08:14.080 the stories about Brady when he was like the young 1:08:14.160 --> 1:08:16.280 guy on the team and how Rabel and Bruski and 1:08:16.439 --> 1:08:18.439 all these guys used to like motherfuck him and it 1:08:18.520 --> 1:08:21.479 was it was and picked on him. It was a 1:08:21.560 --> 1:08:24.680 completely different Tom that we played with so like we 1:08:25.240 --> 1:08:28.120 and like you couldn't. There was only a couple guys 1:08:28.200 --> 1:08:30.760 kept really good jaw with Tom, but everyone was so 1:08:31.000 --> 1:08:33.360 scared to do it, and Tom would be hungry to 1:08:33.520 --> 1:08:36.360 jaw with people like talk shit, but like everyone was 1:08:36.400 --> 1:08:38.360 so scared to talk shit to Tom because he was 1:08:38.360 --> 1:08:41.320 already Tom by then, you know, like it was. It 1:08:41.479 --> 1:08:43.800 almost makes me like, man, I wish we got to 1:08:44.320 --> 1:08:46.680 see him in those those early stages where you were 1:08:46.960 --> 1:08:49.040 more kind of part of the boys, instead of him 1:08:49.080 --> 1:08:54.400 being like the older brother, h guy figure. You understand 1:08:54.439 --> 1:08:57.920 that Rabel was like that older brother figure to Tom. Yeah, 1:08:57.960 --> 1:08:59.360 and we didn't get to see any of that. 1:08:59.520 --> 1:09:01.519 We got this the time where he was our older 1:09:01.600 --> 1:09:03.600 brother and it would have been amazing to be a 1:09:03.640 --> 1:09:05.840 part of that crew. But we're just the second, you know, 1:09:06.080 --> 1:09:08.439 era of the New England pages. But there were so 1:09:08.560 --> 1:09:10.840 many times, like you said, in the training room and 1:09:10.880 --> 1:09:12.960 the coaches that were around very able, like oh, you 1:09:13.000 --> 1:09:14.720 would have loved the guy so much, you would have 1:09:14.760 --> 1:09:15.639 loved to play with him. 1:09:15.840 --> 1:09:18.160 He gives it all. He gives it his all out 1:09:18.200 --> 1:09:18.799 on the field. 1:09:19.120 --> 1:09:21.000 I mean, he's a guy that you want to be 1:09:21.080 --> 1:09:23.240 friends with as well in the locker room because he's 1:09:23.240 --> 1:09:25.200 just fun to be around, but also at the same time, 1:09:25.280 --> 1:09:26.960 he's going to go all out for you out on 1:09:27.040 --> 1:09:29.200 the field. I mean he was a grinder, yeah, I 1:09:29.200 --> 1:09:32.280 mean gritty, great size as a player, and he was 1:09:32.320 --> 1:09:34.080 an inside outside. 1:09:33.680 --> 1:09:35.960 Threat, first tier out there out in the field. 1:09:35.960 --> 1:09:38.040 And I think that's why Bill loved him so much, 1:09:38.120 --> 1:09:41.240 because how versatile he was a special teamer, could play 1:09:41.400 --> 1:09:45.080 inside backer and outside backer and when to When Bill 1:09:45.160 --> 1:09:48.479 gets a guy like that, he utilizes their skill and 1:09:48.640 --> 1:09:51.200 so many different aspects of the game and he makes 1:09:51.280 --> 1:09:54.479 you a tremendous a player and he blossoms you like 1:09:54.600 --> 1:09:56.800 no other. And that's why Bill loves those type of 1:09:56.880 --> 1:09:59.320 guys when he can get him in free agency one percent. 1:09:59.400 --> 1:10:05.280 Think about it, like he's played on every phase of 1:10:05.320 --> 1:10:08.599 the game at a high level in an important game. 1:10:09.040 --> 1:10:11.640 He's been a teamer. So like when he's addressing the 1:10:11.720 --> 1:10:15.120 team and he's watching fucking the film or having like 1:10:15.160 --> 1:10:17.560 a highlight thing that he's probably presenting the team, he 1:10:17.640 --> 1:10:20.320 can break down guy for guy because he's done it 1:10:20.720 --> 1:10:24.559 at the pro level. On defense, he knows everything about 1:10:24.600 --> 1:10:27.840 defense because he's you know, he basically was in the 1:10:27.920 --> 1:10:32.479 school of doctorates on the defense through Belichick, learning through 1:10:32.600 --> 1:10:36.080 him and then actually being on the field and experiencing 1:10:36.120 --> 1:10:38.680 it is another way he gets to coach guys and 1:10:38.760 --> 1:10:41.160 then an offense, Like, yeah, he was in a package 1:10:41.240 --> 1:10:43.760 or two, but I remember going and going on the 1:10:43.840 --> 1:10:46.160 other side of the ball when I had to play corner. 1:10:46.800 --> 1:10:49.519 Like even being in those meeting rooms for the little 1:10:49.520 --> 1:10:51.519 amount of time that I was, it opened up my 1:10:51.640 --> 1:10:54.840 mind so differently on how I thought about offense when 1:10:54.880 --> 1:10:57.479 I went back to offense and how I was attacking 1:10:57.560 --> 1:11:00.479 the defense. He's done that on offense, Like he can 1:11:00.560 --> 1:11:04.160 break down the whole the whole game, and he's a 1:11:04.240 --> 1:11:06.439 masculine figure that's gonna make you do it right, and 1:11:06.520 --> 1:11:08.880 if you don't, he's gonna motherfucker you get rid of you. 1:11:09.000 --> 1:11:11.400 He's gonna make people accountable. That's how it was the 1:11:11.520 --> 1:11:14.520 Patriot way that it was developed through these guys. 1:11:14.760 --> 1:11:17.280 I mean, and just just talking about his knowledge of 1:11:17.320 --> 1:11:21.519 the game and just the mastermind he has within the 1:11:21.640 --> 1:11:24.360 rule book of the NFL as well. Remember in the 1:11:24.400 --> 1:11:29.960 twenty nineteen playoffs, Rabel intentionally took a twelve man on 1:11:30.200 --> 1:11:34.240 the field penalty just to keep Brady off of the field. 1:11:34.640 --> 1:11:37.080 I mean, he kind of outplayed Belichick in that situation 1:11:37.080 --> 1:11:40.920 because Belichick was the master of knowing the rules inside 1:11:40.920 --> 1:11:43.120 and out and using that to his advantage. And this 1:11:43.280 --> 1:11:45.479 is a time when Rabel used it to his advantage 1:11:45.479 --> 1:11:48.920 and it was against the mastermind coach Belichick. So I 1:11:49.080 --> 1:11:51.120 learned that pretty incredible by him to do that. 1:11:51.400 --> 1:11:54.479 I learned about that little mastermind bullshit is when we 1:11:54.560 --> 1:11:56.719 went to the Kentucky Derby one year and he fucking 1:11:57.000 --> 1:11:59.200 was He was my handicapper for the horses, and I 1:11:59.280 --> 1:12:03.160 made like twenty gard in, like Rabel loves like that 1:12:03.360 --> 1:12:05.439 kind of shit. We were sitting there and I have 1:12:05.600 --> 1:12:08.639 no clue on how to gamble these horses, and raveses 1:12:08.680 --> 1:12:10.320 over here got his dip in. I think he had 1:12:10.360 --> 1:12:12.800 a cigarette, maybe a shot or two in him, and 1:12:12.920 --> 1:12:17.040 he's fucking c Yeah, he was smoking with a dip in. 1:12:17.520 --> 1:12:18.320 I'm not joking. 1:12:19.400 --> 1:12:20.320 I love this guy now. 1:12:20.880 --> 1:12:23.400 And we go and we go to the little thing 1:12:23.400 --> 1:12:25.280 where you have to put your ship in, and I'm like, Raves, 1:12:25.280 --> 1:12:26.680 what I do? He's like, don't worry at him, And 1:12:26.760 --> 1:12:28.720 I got you. You know, he fucking puts them on there. 1:12:28.920 --> 1:12:31.559 We hit it like a three thing parlay or something. 1:12:31.960 --> 1:12:34.880 He's just a smart guy. He's a smart guy that 1:12:35.080 --> 1:12:36.320 like can beat you up. 1:12:36.600 --> 1:12:39.120 What's the biggest thing in year one that he has 1:12:39.160 --> 1:12:40.759 to emphasize in New England? 1:12:40.800 --> 1:12:43.040 What do you think, Jules, Well, you gotta get some lineman. 1:12:43.680 --> 1:12:47.760 H you gotta get some right there, he gotta. They 1:12:47.840 --> 1:12:51.639 got a whole lot of money to spend. Now, knowing 1:12:52.479 --> 1:12:56.519 Mike through the years that I've known him, I'm sure 1:12:56.560 --> 1:13:00.720 he took this job knowing that he Uh, he's going 1:13:00.800 --> 1:13:02.679 to be able to spend some money. 1:13:02.760 --> 1:13:06.040 He's in a great situation heading into his first year. Obviously, 1:13:06.120 --> 1:13:08.800 he's got Drake May who's an unbelievable quarterback. He's going 1:13:08.880 --> 1:13:12.080 to develop him to best of his potential, no doubt 1:13:12.080 --> 1:13:12.479 about that. 1:13:13.120 --> 1:13:13.800 Uh, he was. 1:13:15.360 --> 1:13:18.560 I would say Josh McDaniels, Josh McDaniels go there, but 1:13:18.640 --> 1:13:20.280 he has to go through the whole process. Maybe he 1:13:20.400 --> 1:13:22.679 has a guy or two out there that he's thinking 1:13:22.720 --> 1:13:25.280 about bringing in, but uh, he's going through all that 1:13:25.400 --> 1:13:26.080 hiring process. 1:13:26.200 --> 1:13:29.280 Interview. I think that would But Josh McDaniels would be 1:13:29.360 --> 1:13:32.760 the best face just anywhere. He ain't. He ain't and 1:13:33.040 --> 1:13:33.760 he loves it there. 1:13:33.880 --> 1:13:36.680 I believe Josh is one of the best offensive coinators 1:13:36.880 --> 1:13:38.880 in the league as well. I mean he knows how 1:13:38.920 --> 1:13:42.160 to develop players. He developed, helped develop team he developed, 1:13:42.200 --> 1:13:45.439 You developed, Tom put me in the right situations all 1:13:45.640 --> 1:13:48.840 the time when I was in New England. He knows 1:13:48.880 --> 1:13:51.200 how to relate to guys as well, which is really good. 1:13:51.280 --> 1:13:54.120 I mean, uh, you need that, you know, with these 1:13:54.160 --> 1:13:55.040 young bucks these days. 1:13:55.080 --> 1:13:58.400 I mean, he made mac Jones a pro bowler in 1:13:58.520 --> 1:14:01.519 his rookie years, then he left. 1:14:01.320 --> 1:14:03.400 And then ain't no pro bowler. 1:14:03.160 --> 1:14:05.519 From there on out. No, there hasn't been. Hasn't been. 1:14:05.800 --> 1:14:09.120 I'll contribute all that to most of that to McDaniel. 1:14:09.160 --> 1:14:12.840 But these mcdse I like the name. I never heard that. 1:14:13.240 --> 1:14:16.400 I don't know what about Rabel. He took Ryan Tannehill 1:14:16.800 --> 1:14:18.680 out of Miami. Everyone thought he was gonna be out 1:14:18.680 --> 1:14:20.640 of the league, and he basically made him into a 1:14:20.720 --> 1:14:24.120 pro bowler, basically got the number one seed in the 1:14:24.120 --> 1:14:26.360 playoffs and almost made the Super Bowl. Yeah, you know, 1:14:26.439 --> 1:14:28.280 a couple of years with him too. So he knows 1:14:28.360 --> 1:14:31.080 how to develop quarterbacks. He knows how to get the 1:14:31.160 --> 1:14:33.800 best out of guys because he brings that type of 1:14:34.040 --> 1:14:36.920 energy you know, on the field, in the meeting rooms, 1:14:36.960 --> 1:14:39.000 to get the best out of players. And that's why 1:14:39.000 --> 1:14:41.120 I hear about Rabel, and that's why people love playing 1:14:41.160 --> 1:14:43.839 for him out of the guys that I know in Tennessee. 1:14:44.040 --> 1:14:46.040 I think he just feels safe when you're around him. 1:14:46.080 --> 1:14:48.840 I feel safe. I feel like whenever he was whenever 1:14:48.920 --> 1:14:51.920 we hang out, we've gone out and done things together, 1:14:52.040 --> 1:14:56.840 I just feel safe. Feel he's just burly he and 1:14:56.920 --> 1:14:59.120 he's also got the wit and like the strategy to 1:14:59.240 --> 1:15:01.360 like if something's some ship were to happen in like 1:15:01.439 --> 1:15:04.800 a bar or something like, he know an escape route, 1:15:04.880 --> 1:15:07.960 maybe take down like seven eight people himself and then 1:15:08.000 --> 1:15:10.479 get us. Like, he just feels safe with a guy 1:15:10.560 --> 1:15:13.200 like Rabel. He's the guy you you want your daughter 1:15:13.280 --> 1:15:15.840 to marry. I feel I don't know about that, all right, 1:15:16.040 --> 1:15:18.880 all right, well, well I like what you're saying. You 1:15:18.960 --> 1:15:21.320 feel safe around. You want your daughter to marry someone 1:15:21.400 --> 1:15:22.719 that around. 1:15:22.800 --> 1:15:24.960 So Jewels. 1:15:26.840 --> 1:15:31.720 Man, I'm excited for him. I'm sad for Mayo. This 1:15:31.880 --> 1:15:34.040 is like a This is really like one of those 1:15:34.120 --> 1:15:38.280 things where it's like a divorce. This is why New 1:15:38.320 --> 1:15:41.640 England keeps on putting me in these goddamn divorces. I 1:15:41.720 --> 1:15:44.040 feel like a kid that's had like five divorced parents. 1:15:45.360 --> 1:15:48.360 What can you explain more? Well, when Bill and Brady 1:15:48.720 --> 1:15:54.280 that divorce. Yeah, now you know Mayo freaking Rabes that divorce, 1:15:54.400 --> 1:15:57.360 there's like fucking hell because we're all like intertwined and 1:15:57.720 --> 1:15:59.600 it's kind of like in ssual. 1:15:59.560 --> 1:16:01.920 You're kind of like the red headed step child that's 1:16:01.960 --> 1:16:05.559 just been there throughout the whole time. That's just takes 1:16:05.600 --> 1:16:08.720 all the beatings, but in the end you're gonna still 1:16:08.760 --> 1:16:09.439 be standing there. 1:16:09.800 --> 1:16:12.360 Make it tough. It does make you tough, makes you 1:16:12.479 --> 1:16:15.960 tough man, and that's why you're the toughest guy I know. Jules. Also, 1:16:16.680 --> 1:16:19.479 i'd be I'd be crazy to say that. Yeah, our 1:16:19.560 --> 1:16:25.120 last game with Tom Brady Rabell beat us. That's why 1:16:25.240 --> 1:16:28.240 Verbel's back. That's why he's back. If he didn't win 1:16:28.600 --> 1:16:30.280 his cleats over there, if he didn't win that game, 1:16:30.360 --> 1:16:32.439 he might not be back. He might not be the 1:16:32.439 --> 1:16:33.879 head coach of the New Patriots. 1:16:33.880 --> 1:16:37.240 And maybe he wouldn't because maybe he he sent Tom 1:16:37.320 --> 1:16:41.360 Brady packing in his last game as a New Patriot. 1:16:42.160 --> 1:16:45.080 That's probably his greatest Like, that's probably what he said. 1:16:45.280 --> 1:16:47.800 The first line in the interview. Did he say that, No, 1:16:47.920 --> 1:16:51.479 I'm just saying I would. But hey, mister Kraft, who 1:16:51.600 --> 1:16:54.840 sent Tom packing, I bet you he said that. I 1:16:54.960 --> 1:16:59.280 bet you he has no filter where he probably would 1:16:59.320 --> 1:17:01.560 say ship like that. He's he's the only player to 1:17:01.640 --> 1:17:04.639 have two touchdowns in a sack in a game offense 1:17:04.720 --> 1:17:08.080 and defense. I mean his versatility. Is there any other 1:17:08.200 --> 1:17:11.040 coach out there that you think could beat up Rabel? 1:17:11.200 --> 1:17:13.400 I think a good fight would be Dan Campbell and him. 1:17:13.520 --> 1:17:20.200 Oh point, but that I'm taking Rabes because Rabes d 1:17:20.360 --> 1:17:24.960 n Kimble. He was a tight end. Yeah, so what 1:17:25.200 --> 1:17:28.080 what are you saying about tight ends jewels? They're just 1:17:28.200 --> 1:17:28.760 not that tough. 1:17:28.880 --> 1:17:31.240 They're not as tough as I agree, you're one of one. 1:17:31.360 --> 1:17:32.559 I agree with your title. 1:17:32.680 --> 1:17:35.120 Ones ain't as tough as d ns, and the d 1:17:35.360 --> 1:17:38.479 ns are beastly, man, Deans are huge. 1:17:39.280 --> 1:17:41.920 You gotta be fearless, Mile Ryans. He could be in there. 1:17:42.400 --> 1:17:46.120 They all say McDermott is like a wrestler, iowast, but 1:17:46.360 --> 1:17:49.280 I'm I think Rabes is a wrestler too. And Rabes 1:17:49.400 --> 1:17:51.439 used to go against fucking Steve Neil all the time, 1:17:52.000 --> 1:17:54.519 which Steve Neil was World champions, So Rabes already got 1:17:54.560 --> 1:17:57.120 a little in on that. So I think he's I 1:17:57.200 --> 1:17:59.880 think Rabes is taking it's just weight weight class on 1:18:00.120 --> 1:18:02.640 on McDermott. And he may have the skilled technique, but 1:18:03.960 --> 1:18:07.439 Rabel would swallow him. Oh ship, What kind of dude 1:18:07.520 --> 1:18:08.160 is Mike Rabel? 1:18:08.560 --> 1:18:11.400 I mean he's stud no doubt about it. Football IQ's 1:18:11.439 --> 1:18:15.120 up there the pedigree. He's also a wizard. He does 1:18:16.000 --> 1:18:19.720 like every position he also has he does. I mean 1:18:19.800 --> 1:18:21.880 he's got the best chin in football other than like 1:18:21.960 --> 1:18:25.320 the coach coward, like having a nice chins of stock. 1:18:26.479 --> 1:18:29.200 Like he looks like the Ohio guy. When you put 1:18:29.280 --> 1:18:33.040 Ohio guy in dictionary for like recruit, it's like big 1:18:33.240 --> 1:18:37.439 white guy, big chin looks like Mustafa from fucking Beauty 1:18:37.479 --> 1:18:42.680 in the Beast. Yeah, I never seen Beauty in the 1:18:42.720 --> 1:18:46.000 Beast Or is that one? I don't know, Gustaf, you 1:18:46.040 --> 1:18:50.679 know Gustav or something, Yeah, I never seen it. Freak. 1:18:51.160 --> 1:18:53.600 I mean, he he had like man's strength, that's what 1:18:53.640 --> 1:18:58.160 everyone always talked about. His man's strength. Dog. Definitely a dog, 1:18:58.520 --> 1:19:01.400 no doubt he could be a lot room guy. I 1:19:01.800 --> 1:19:03.759 was thinking Whiz. I was gonna go with Whiz. 1:19:03.920 --> 1:19:07.120 I mean, just how clutch he was in situations and 1:19:07.360 --> 1:19:08.760 just how knowledgeable he was. 1:19:08.800 --> 1:19:14.000 And he's offense. He's a dude's dude in the Patriot world, 1:19:14.240 --> 1:19:18.719 like in bizarro world, which is not really like everywhere 1:19:18.760 --> 1:19:21.720 else where, Like being an asshole and bullying is like 1:19:22.160 --> 1:19:27.439 being positive there. So you know that's positive because it 1:19:27.520 --> 1:19:30.120 makes you accountable. So I wouldn't put him in the 1:19:30.240 --> 1:19:34.960 overall category of dudes. Dude, I would go on three, 1:19:35.040 --> 1:19:38.040 what do you think one, let's go on three, one, two, three. Whiz. 1:19:39.320 --> 1:19:40.320 He's definitely a whiz. 1:19:40.840 --> 1:19:44.240 I mean, special teamer, knows that game inside and out. Defense, 1:19:44.560 --> 1:19:47.200 I mean clearly played defense, was one of the best 1:19:47.280 --> 1:19:49.439 out there, one of the toughest. And then I knew 1:19:49.439 --> 1:19:50.840 what to do on the offense side of the ball 1:19:50.880 --> 1:19:51.919 to touchdowns. 1:19:52.120 --> 1:19:54.880 He's a whiz. And then also he's a whiz the 1:19:55.000 --> 1:19:59.000 fucking belichicking the Belichick with the timeout of the. 1:19:59.000 --> 1:20:01.559 Twelve man on the fid men on the field. 1:20:02.080 --> 1:20:09.280 You know, so wizard, he's a whiz. Next our next guest, though, 1:20:09.560 --> 1:20:11.479 I think we should go over to the Alabama side. 1:20:11.760 --> 1:20:15.679 We're fair, We're fair, We're very fair. This guy, though, 1:20:16.000 --> 1:20:19.120 was never fair on a goal line play, or he 1:20:19.320 --> 1:20:21.760 was never fair on a second and ten in the 1:20:21.840 --> 1:20:24.280 Super Bowl or second in goal in the Super Bowl 1:20:24.280 --> 1:20:26.240 where he had to make a life changing play to 1:20:26.880 --> 1:20:32.560 create and tackle h Marshawn Lynch. This guy had the 1:20:32.760 --> 1:20:37.200 hugest calves I've ever seen. Next guest, Dante Hi Tower, Danta, 1:20:37.320 --> 1:20:41.840 I mean Dante Hi Tower, Dante Dante hi Jan even 1:20:41.920 --> 1:20:44.639 I know it's Dante. I'll get into it after Ai. 1:20:44.880 --> 1:20:46.960 And which a I have to say about Dante because 1:20:46.960 --> 1:20:51.920 we know him is the AI synopsis. Obviously I'm improving my. 1:20:51.960 --> 1:20:54.479 Speaking skills because I couldn't say synopsis on our very 1:20:54.520 --> 1:20:56.720 first episode, Julianna, and now I can't. So this is 1:20:56.760 --> 1:20:59.000 what's so great about Dudes on dudes is that we're 1:20:59.040 --> 1:21:04.559 getting smarter as being complete dudes overall. Synopsis, synopsis. All right, 1:21:04.600 --> 1:21:06.960 here we go the synopsis or Dante Hier this week. 1:21:07.600 --> 1:21:11.479 He's a former NFL linebacker. Dante high Tower is a 1:21:11.520 --> 1:21:15.040 former NFL linebacker known for his leadership and versatility on 1:21:15.200 --> 1:21:18.200 the field. A two time Pro Bowler, high Tower played 1:21:18.400 --> 1:21:21.439 his entire nine year NFL career with the New England Patriots, 1:21:21.479 --> 1:21:23.599 the same amount of years I played with the New 1:21:23.640 --> 1:21:27.639 England Patriots, nine, helping the team win three Super Bowl titles, 1:21:27.960 --> 1:21:30.400 just like myself, helping the New England Patriots win three 1:21:30.439 --> 1:21:32.880 Super Bowl titles. I love this guy already. Prior to 1:21:33.040 --> 1:21:35.679 the NFL career, he was a standout at the University 1:21:35.720 --> 1:21:38.000 of Alabama, where he was a key figure and winning 1:21:38.080 --> 1:21:42.799 two BCS national championships. This freezing guy is a winner, 1:21:43.280 --> 1:21:46.599 that's all I know. Five championships at the highest level, 1:21:46.840 --> 1:21:50.040 two in college, three in the NFL. Over what over 1:21:50.160 --> 1:21:55.320 a thirteen to fourteen year period. Ridiculous winner winner Chicken Danner, 1:21:55.400 --> 1:21:59.120 that's for sure. Born and raised in Lewisburg, Tennessee. Oh, 1:21:59.800 --> 1:22:02.439 the walls must not like him. 1:22:02.880 --> 1:22:06.920 That's I don't want to wow. Maybe he didn't want 1:22:06.960 --> 1:22:18.400 to go to Mayo's fin steps. Oh, shots fired all right. 1:22:18.760 --> 1:22:21.680 High Tower was known for his high football IQ and 1:22:21.880 --> 1:22:25.679 relentless work ethic. After retiring in twenty twenty two, high 1:22:25.760 --> 1:22:29.759 Tower joined the Patriots coaching staff while also pursuing business ventures, 1:22:29.960 --> 1:22:33.720 spending time with his family, and engaging and charity charitable work, 1:22:34.080 --> 1:22:38.320 earning admiration for his calm and thoughtful demeanor. 1:22:38.280 --> 1:22:41.040 Off the field. Oh that's my guy. 1:22:41.479 --> 1:22:46.160 He is calm and does have that demeanor of being relaxed, 1:22:46.200 --> 1:22:50.320 but he will rip your freaking head off, face off. 1:22:50.520 --> 1:22:51.880 He'll bring your arm off. 1:22:52.080 --> 1:22:53.400 What's the first thing that comes to mind when you 1:22:53.439 --> 1:22:55.679 think about Dante. I'm scared of Dante Hi Tower. 1:22:55.760 --> 1:22:57.360 But the first thing that comes to mind right now 1:22:57.479 --> 1:22:59.040 is I'm looking at the picture of him in high 1:22:59.040 --> 1:23:01.600 school and he looks exactly like Matthew Slater, but with 1:23:01.800 --> 1:23:04.800 big ears, like alf years. So if you can put 1:23:04.840 --> 1:23:07.360 that up, please and show everyone he's he was Matthew 1:23:07.400 --> 1:23:08.920 Slater in high school with alf ears. 1:23:09.000 --> 1:23:13.200 I just looking at the picture. Pretty pretty dog slay dogs. 1:23:13.400 --> 1:23:17.400 Shot fire more shots fire that former teammates, Pum pum. 1:23:17.640 --> 1:23:19.679 We love shooting shots at our former teammates. 1:23:19.720 --> 1:23:20.639 Please shoot them back. 1:23:20.880 --> 1:23:25.400 We appreciate that there's one guy who can't handle our 1:23:25.400 --> 1:23:26.840 shots fired at him. Think of it. 1:23:28.720 --> 1:23:34.000 Yeah, but theh Tower was such a better linebacker than yeah, 1:23:35.920 --> 1:23:38.920 short linebackers. But all right, back to Dante. All right, 1:23:39.000 --> 1:23:41.400 here's my story. This guy I was scared of. Actually 1:23:41.400 --> 1:23:44.479 he was what first round pick, New England pager, like. 1:23:44.520 --> 1:23:48.599 Top top fifteen or so. When you have a linebacker that's. 1:23:48.560 --> 1:23:53.000 Twenty fifth six, what is he six four six three, 1:23:53.960 --> 1:23:58.960 you know, six and can move like he's a little guy. 1:23:59.280 --> 1:24:01.080 I'm scared of those guys. You want to know why, 1:24:01.520 --> 1:24:03.760 because they got that leverage. He's not a little guy, 1:24:03.800 --> 1:24:07.479 You're just massive. No, I'm scared of those I don't 1:24:07.520 --> 1:24:11.200 know why those guys. I'm scared of those big guys 1:24:11.720 --> 1:24:15.840 that are in the frame why of six you know, 1:24:15.960 --> 1:24:18.600 one to six four and are wide as well, like 1:24:18.720 --> 1:24:21.479 you just said, because they got that leverage and they 1:24:21.520 --> 1:24:23.679 can get underneath me, and then that's when I lose. 1:24:23.720 --> 1:24:24.439 And I don't like that. 1:24:24.600 --> 1:24:27.960 Juill see, I gotta outsmart these guys, so Dante, I 1:24:28.400 --> 1:24:30.000 had to, you know, try to outsmart them on the 1:24:30.040 --> 1:24:32.760 football field and going versus them in practice. And that 1:24:32.920 --> 1:24:35.320 was just to not get touched by him, you know, 1:24:35.520 --> 1:24:37.759 try to run away from him because he was always 1:24:37.760 --> 1:24:39.599 gonna win versus me and camp. 1:24:39.880 --> 1:24:42.519 I was a rookie. I was coming off that ankle injury. 1:24:42.640 --> 1:24:44.439 I wasn't a rookie. He was a rookie. I was 1:24:44.479 --> 1:24:47.320 coming off the ankle injury. When you know that guy in. 1:24:47.360 --> 1:24:52.560 Baltimore and broke my ankle. Pollard, Yeah, very very so. 1:24:53.080 --> 1:24:56.120 I didn't really heal that well that whole year at 1:24:56.200 --> 1:24:59.439 South Padre Island spring break, my cast and everything came 1:24:59.520 --> 1:25:02.080 back every time in my ankle was good. It really wasn't, 1:25:02.240 --> 1:25:06.679 you know. But don't tell Bill, Bill, don't listen to that. Okay, 1:25:08.120 --> 1:25:10.400 you've done things like that too, Jewels, So that's gonna 1:25:10.400 --> 1:25:12.960 make me feel better just saying that. But uh, I 1:25:13.320 --> 1:25:15.840 can't get open. I'm not doing this well in training camp. 1:25:16.000 --> 1:25:18.440 My back's tarting to go out of me because I'm compensating. 1:25:18.880 --> 1:25:20.280 I'm just making excuses right now. 1:25:20.360 --> 1:25:23.120 Why Dante, you know, dominated me when he was a rookie. 1:25:23.560 --> 1:25:27.559 But this guy, when they're that wide, they're built that strong. 1:25:27.640 --> 1:25:29.840 You could just tell he had that presence of Yo, 1:25:30.240 --> 1:25:32.759 I ain't gonna move that guy. No one's really gonna 1:25:32.800 --> 1:25:35.799 move that guy, being sixty three two hundred and sixty pounds. 1:25:36.160 --> 1:25:39.519 And I accidentally like caught him one time running your route. 1:25:39.520 --> 1:25:41.120 I tried going around him and like we caught like 1:25:41.280 --> 1:25:44.000 shoulders or something. It can't exactly pinpoint what it was, 1:25:44.439 --> 1:25:46.040 and like it was kind of like a cheap shot 1:25:46.120 --> 1:25:49.320 on him, but it was totally accidental, and I yeah, 1:25:49.479 --> 1:25:51.000 it wasn't a chip. It was like he was at 1:25:51.040 --> 1:25:53.200 the linebacker position kind of stepping up for the run 1:25:53.280 --> 1:25:54.960 and kind of ran into you. I think I kind 1:25:54.960 --> 1:25:57.040 of face masked him or something and then. 1:25:57.040 --> 1:25:58.080 Like yanked it a little bit. 1:25:58.360 --> 1:26:02.160 He turned around and he was furious. He was vicious, 1:26:03.120 --> 1:26:05.960 and I was like, oh man, he took it to 1:26:06.080 --> 1:26:08.439 a whole other level. The next play versus me, and 1:26:08.520 --> 1:26:12.240 I literally learned I will never piss off Dante High 1:26:12.360 --> 1:26:14.120 Tower ever again. 1:26:14.920 --> 1:26:17.040 You got to piss it. You mustn't do something crazy, 1:26:17.080 --> 1:26:19.439 because I never really seen him pissed off. Yeah, he 1:26:19.560 --> 1:26:20.800 was mad, man, he was mad. 1:26:21.360 --> 1:26:23.400 The guy's a freak. You can't really block him in 1:26:23.439 --> 1:26:25.720 the run game. You can't really stop him in the 1:26:25.760 --> 1:26:27.600 past game either if he's rushing at you because he 1:26:27.640 --> 1:26:29.760 can move so well and can get around you, or 1:26:29.840 --> 1:26:32.960 he can bowl rush you. So the guy man freak 1:26:33.040 --> 1:26:35.360 of an athlete, no doubt about that. And I swear 1:26:35.840 --> 1:26:37.920 if you go to a barbecue with him, he'll eat 1:26:38.600 --> 1:26:41.640 like fifteen pounds of like Rabbi steak. 1:26:41.439 --> 1:26:44.720 And Briskey can eat. When'd you see me whatever at 1:26:44.760 --> 1:26:47.320 those team outings that we have and like it turns 1:26:47.360 --> 1:26:49.479 in the muscle right on the street muscle. 1:26:49.680 --> 1:26:52.280 Yeah, like you know how the Wolverine character or whatever, 1:26:52.439 --> 1:26:54.400 and like the Hawk like they just you know in 1:26:54.439 --> 1:26:57.320 those movies, like whatever, we do they just you know, 1:26:57.520 --> 1:27:00.080 turn into the creature that they are, Like, that's what 1:27:00.200 --> 1:27:01.960 he did when he ate ate that food. 1:27:02.240 --> 1:27:05.280 He just turned into Dante hitar dude. Well, I mean 1:27:05.360 --> 1:27:08.719 his nickname was Zeus, which is like huge, huge Greek. 1:27:08.800 --> 1:27:11.400 I remember, like really, he was a rookie and I 1:27:11.479 --> 1:27:13.080 was already telling him that he's going to sign a 1:27:13.080 --> 1:27:16.400 one hundred million dollar deal at the middle linebacker position. 1:27:16.680 --> 1:27:19.400 Did you yeah, how'd you know? Because I was facing Brison. 1:27:19.520 --> 1:27:22.280 I'm like, this guy freaking good. He good. He can 1:27:22.400 --> 1:27:25.200 move cover, he can you know, stop the run, he 1:27:25.240 --> 1:27:27.800 can do it all. I mean, Scar, he looks like 1:27:28.160 --> 1:27:30.720 the predator out there because he has dreads, like early 1:27:30.800 --> 1:27:32.920 in his creating. But when he got dreads and you're 1:27:33.000 --> 1:27:35.519 that big and wide, Dante looks like he has two 1:27:35.640 --> 1:27:39.680 houses for calves. His calves are so damn big. Is 1:27:39.760 --> 1:27:41.760 the largest cat. I used to tell him that every 1:27:41.800 --> 1:27:44.280 day I walk by, he'd be in his sandals. We'll 1:27:44.280 --> 1:27:46.679 be walking by each other in the hallway. I see 1:27:46.720 --> 1:27:49.080 his cap, Like, bro, can you fucking ease up on 1:27:49.160 --> 1:27:53.160 the calf raises? Jesus Christ, it wasn't the calf raises, 1:27:53.280 --> 1:27:56.240 it was the brisket. It was probably the Brits call 1:27:56.360 --> 1:27:59.880 right to his cast, right to Drew, right to his 1:28:00.160 --> 1:28:04.160 calv And Dante was a smart ass football player, smart, 1:28:04.600 --> 1:28:07.960 very smart football player. And I remember going to his 1:28:08.080 --> 1:28:11.280 house once and I walked over there and he, like 1:28:11.400 --> 1:28:13.439 you said, he's just like a he's a quiet he's 1:28:13.560 --> 1:28:16.800 kind of quiet, but he's vicious. And I go to 1:28:16.920 --> 1:28:19.880 his house and I'm like, is that a fucking video 1:28:19.960 --> 1:28:23.960 game station with keyboard in mouse? Dante high Tower is 1:28:24.000 --> 1:28:27.240 a keyboard guy in the video games. I go, what 1:28:27.479 --> 1:28:30.679 the fuck is this bro? He goes, what, bro? Whatever? 1:28:30.880 --> 1:28:34.320 You know, he's like a whiz. He's a fucking whizz, 1:28:34.439 --> 1:28:37.360 this guy. He's insane on call of duty too. Don't 1:28:37.439 --> 1:28:39.200 don't let him. Don't let him trick you and think 1:28:39.240 --> 1:28:42.320 he's not. He's a fucking gamer. He used to he 1:28:42.479 --> 1:28:43.200 was really good. 1:28:43.400 --> 1:28:45.840 Well that's why he's a football coach now for the 1:28:45.920 --> 1:28:47.919 New England Patriots football because you gotta. 1:28:47.720 --> 1:28:49.240 Be smart, you gotta be a whiz in order to 1:28:49.280 --> 1:28:50.760 be a coach. How do you think he's doing a 1:28:50.840 --> 1:28:52.880 coaching I feel like he's doing fine. How do you 1:28:52.920 --> 1:28:54.200 think they're feeling over there now? 1:28:54.720 --> 1:28:56.639 I feel like Dante's always feeling good. 1:28:56.720 --> 1:29:00.320 Man. He's never down an even guy. He is, man, 1:29:00.920 --> 1:29:01.519 he really is. 1:29:02.080 --> 1:29:06.400 He's the guy that had the ultimate pass from Bill Belichick. 1:29:06.479 --> 1:29:08.920 He always had. That's how scary he was that coach 1:29:09.080 --> 1:29:10.880 was even scared of him. I don't think coach is 1:29:10.880 --> 1:29:14.040 scared of him. Coach loved He wasn't scared of him. 1:29:14.040 --> 1:29:15.519 Man, He loved him because he was He was a 1:29:16.320 --> 1:29:19.040 well built football player and he played the game how 1:29:19.080 --> 1:29:21.960 it should be played Bill, and Bill loves guy. 1:29:22.320 --> 1:29:24.280 Yeah he did. We're offense. That's why we never got 1:29:24.360 --> 1:29:24.920 loved Jules. 1:29:25.160 --> 1:29:30.800 Who else had the Bill pass? Basically a male had 1:29:30.840 --> 1:29:32.680 that pass. He could do whatever he wanted to do. 1:29:32.840 --> 1:29:37.600 And Bill that's fine. You know. Devin Belichick mccordy, I 1:29:37.640 --> 1:29:39.360 mean that's one of his sons. I think that's his 1:29:39.520 --> 1:29:42.880 actual middle name. Now who else was another one? In past? 1:29:43.000 --> 1:29:45.599 We mean, like you know, if they didn't want to practice, 1:29:45.840 --> 1:29:49.040 or if like there, you know, hamstring was a little sore, 1:29:49.240 --> 1:29:50.280 they be coach. 1:29:50.360 --> 1:29:52.920 I can't I can't go to the coach. But no problem, 1:29:53.680 --> 1:29:56.120 just hang out in the training room and get it 1:29:56.240 --> 1:29:56.600 rubbed on. 1:29:56.760 --> 1:29:56.920 You know. 1:29:57.520 --> 1:29:59.600 No, I was thinking more of the past. You know, 1:29:59.680 --> 1:30:02.080 how has been over here testing the guys around a 1:30:02.160 --> 1:30:05.720 show like, Hey, who's this guy? Who's that guy? Well, 1:30:05.920 --> 1:30:08.640 for the offense, he'd be like, hey, Rob, what's the 1:30:08.760 --> 1:30:11.840 exotic front of the defense that you expect to see 1:30:11.880 --> 1:30:14.800 on third and two? And Rob's sitting there like going 1:30:14.840 --> 1:30:20.160 through the What the fuck? Hey, Devin, what color is 1:30:20.280 --> 1:30:22.599 the offense that we're playing? If they're at home? 1:30:23.400 --> 1:30:23.519 Uh? 1:30:23.960 --> 1:30:28.479 I think green? Yes, good job, Like that's the past 1:30:28.520 --> 1:30:31.240 we're talking about. Or like whenever you give a question 1:30:31.320 --> 1:30:34.720 to like the defensive line, like do these guys like 1:30:34.880 --> 1:30:38.479 to run the ball or pass the ball? They got 1:30:38.600 --> 1:30:42.439 Derek Henry, I'm like, uh, coach, I'm on offense, I 1:30:42.479 --> 1:30:48.719 think they like to run the ball. God, hey, gentlemen, 1:30:48.920 --> 1:30:51.040 what is the punter? What school did he go to? 1:30:51.560 --> 1:30:54.920 I mean, that's that's the past we're talking And Dante 1:30:55.080 --> 1:30:58.639 got that. Bill love Dante and it was deserving. Dante 1:30:58.880 --> 1:31:01.080 was He was one of the alphas. He sat in 1:31:01.160 --> 1:31:04.680 the Teddy Bruski locker when you walked into the I 1:31:04.720 --> 1:31:07.280 think it was either the Teddy Bruski or the Willie 1:31:07.360 --> 1:31:10.160 mac locker. They'd always put those two guys in because 1:31:10.200 --> 1:31:11.600 when you had to walk in the locker room, you 1:31:11.640 --> 1:31:13.400 had to walk by those guys. He was one of 1:31:13.479 --> 1:31:15.799 those guys. I mean he was. He was a great teammate. 1:31:15.880 --> 1:31:18.040 Where would you rank him as an all time you know, 1:31:18.200 --> 1:31:20.200 Patriot player on the defensive side of the ball. 1:31:20.320 --> 1:31:21.519 I mean, he's got to be up there. I mean, 1:31:21.560 --> 1:31:23.439 we wouldn't had the Super Bowl if he didn't make 1:31:23.479 --> 1:31:25.880 that second down, the second down goal line player. 1:31:25.920 --> 1:31:27.680 That's very true what you said. We would have never 1:31:28.400 --> 1:31:30.760 won that Super Bowl. That Malcolm Butler catch would have 1:31:30.800 --> 1:31:33.840 never happened because Marshawn Lynch would have scored already. And 1:31:34.280 --> 1:31:36.920 everyone talks about, hey, why didn't Marshawn Lynch get you know, 1:31:37.040 --> 1:31:38.960 the handoff or why didn't they hand off the ball? Well, 1:31:39.560 --> 1:31:42.040 there was a play prior to that wasn't It wasn't 1:31:42.080 --> 1:31:45.160 the exact play before. Well, Marshawn Lynch did have the ball. 1:31:45.520 --> 1:31:48.040 And what happened one on one with Dante high Tower. 1:31:48.200 --> 1:31:51.320 And you never seen Marshawn Lynch never go down ever 1:31:51.720 --> 1:31:54.960 one on one on one and literally Dante high Tower 1:31:55.040 --> 1:31:57.600 is the only guy that can you know, possibly do that, 1:31:57.800 --> 1:31:59.960 and he knocked him right down and he stopped him 1:32:00.240 --> 1:32:02.599 in order to the next play, in order to get 1:32:02.600 --> 1:32:05.120 to the next play that Malcolm Butler had that interception, 1:32:05.280 --> 1:32:07.519 so they already gave it to Marshaun Lynch to have 1:32:07.600 --> 1:32:10.600 that chance to score. So without Dante high Tower, we 1:32:10.640 --> 1:32:13.120 would have never had that, you know, first super Bowl. 1:32:13.080 --> 1:32:14.599 In New England, no doubt about him. 1:32:14.760 --> 1:32:16.920 And then and another big play that he has had, 1:32:17.400 --> 1:32:21.960 you know in his career was that stripsack in the 1:32:22.080 --> 1:32:25.759 game that unfortunately I didn't play in because my backup 1:32:25.840 --> 1:32:27.920 blown out when I went up to see him because 1:32:28.000 --> 1:32:30.800 Tom threw me up to see him earlier that year 1:32:30.920 --> 1:32:32.880 and then I got leveled and lost a lung in 1:32:33.040 --> 1:32:35.200 them back and I still came back the next year. 1:32:35.280 --> 1:32:38.240 But yeah, in that Super Bowl vers Atlanta, that strip 1:32:38.360 --> 1:32:41.879 sack Man, So just continue the domination of the comeback. 1:32:42.120 --> 1:32:44.640 That was an incredible play. He comes through in the 1:32:44.680 --> 1:32:47.240 clutch at all times. I still who blew your back out? 1:32:47.840 --> 1:32:52.040 Earl Thomas? We're not going that deep about who blew 1:32:52.160 --> 1:32:54.800 my back out? It was It was a dude, though. 1:32:55.280 --> 1:32:56.080 It was a dude. 1:32:56.200 --> 1:32:57.360 His name was Earl Thomas. 1:32:57.439 --> 1:33:00.519 He's a Torpedo. Yeah, Torpedo was a big player that 1:33:00.560 --> 1:33:03.080 you can recall. The guy always had a big play 1:33:03.240 --> 1:33:05.599 when the team needed I mean you go back into college. 1:33:05.800 --> 1:33:07.920 In the National Championship, he had a sip sack. That's 1:33:07.960 --> 1:33:10.840 the kind of player Dante was. Fucking when your team 1:33:10.960 --> 1:33:14.639 needed a big play, a big moment, he was super versatile. 1:33:14.680 --> 1:33:17.320 I remember him. He'd be middle linebacker and we put 1:33:17.400 --> 1:33:20.040 him at defensive ends sometimes because you could rush a 1:33:20.080 --> 1:33:22.920 passer like. He just was big time player to make 1:33:23.000 --> 1:33:26.040 big time plays. That is a huge contribution why I 1:33:26.160 --> 1:33:28.479 have three super Bowl rings, you have four. There's a 1:33:28.560 --> 1:33:30.840 huge part of it. I mean, we wouldn't have been 1:33:30.920 --> 1:33:33.439 there without him. You know, I'd always call him. If 1:33:33.479 --> 1:33:37.720 you see how his name's spelled, it's don't a with apostrophee, 1:33:38.320 --> 1:33:42.320 and so I used to call him Danta very you know, 1:33:43.120 --> 1:33:45.200 I used to call him a Danta in not locker room. 1:33:45.240 --> 1:33:47.800 He go, jeels, don't you fucking call me Danta? I go, 1:33:48.840 --> 1:33:51.320 why not, Danta? He goes, because if you fucking call me, 1:33:51.400 --> 1:33:54.000 all these white people out here in Boston they're gonna 1:33:54.040 --> 1:33:56.639 be calling me Danta. Don't you fucking call me Danta. 1:33:57.200 --> 1:34:01.479 My name is Dante. I'm like, all right, Danta, Jules, 1:34:01.640 --> 1:34:05.519 even I knew it was Dante. You must you must, 1:34:06.120 --> 1:34:06.600 you must have. 1:34:06.640 --> 1:34:11.519 Had a bad days. I just wanted to call him 1:34:11.680 --> 1:34:15.720 Dante to make fun of him time. Well, what kind 1:34:15.760 --> 1:34:17.519 of dude is he? What kind of dude is the 1:34:17.720 --> 1:34:20.840 kind of dude to Dante? I mean, Dante, you're getting 1:34:20.880 --> 1:34:21.840 me on that freaking. 1:34:21.600 --> 1:34:24.639 I'm telling you, whatever you do, if you see Dante, 1:34:25.000 --> 1:34:27.120 do not call him Dante. He'll get really mad at you. 1:34:27.439 --> 1:34:29.960 He'll blame it on me. He'll fucking blame it on me. 1:34:30.040 --> 1:34:33.280 Don't call him Dante. What kind of dude is Dante? 1:34:33.640 --> 1:34:36.240 I mean he's he looks like a goddamn stud. He 1:34:36.600 --> 1:34:39.000 does look like a stud. He's a freak too. I 1:34:39.040 --> 1:34:40.799 mean he's got house for calves. 1:34:41.080 --> 1:34:44.000 I feel like he's he hits categories. 1:34:44.160 --> 1:34:48.519 He's a dudes. Dude, he's a dude. Yeah, he hits 1:34:48.600 --> 1:34:51.800 them all on three. Let's let's see which one on three? Hold. 1:34:51.920 --> 1:34:53.960 I gotta think about it real quick. All right, I'm 1:34:54.000 --> 1:34:55.280 gonna go because. 1:34:55.040 --> 1:34:57.160 He's all five, so let me try to pinpoint it 1:34:57.240 --> 1:35:01.559 down the one on three, one, two, three. 1:35:03.080 --> 1:35:05.400 I think I think he's a whiz. That's why he's 1:35:05.439 --> 1:35:06.760 a coach now. He is a coach. 1:35:06.840 --> 1:35:08.880 Yeah, and he knew the game of football like no other. 1:35:09.040 --> 1:35:11.479 I mean he's got a national champion has he has? 1:35:11.600 --> 1:35:14.720 He has five you know, championship said, and like. 1:35:14.800 --> 1:35:17.439 He was a first round linebacker. He had a lot 1:35:17.520 --> 1:35:20.519 of hype coming in and he backed up all the 1:35:20.640 --> 1:35:22.760 hype he did. He like, you know what I mean, 1:35:22.960 --> 1:35:25.960 he's a large. I mean he's a freak too. I 1:35:26.040 --> 1:35:29.760 mean he made big plays in big situations. He's got 1:35:29.800 --> 1:35:33.400 a pedigree, he's got football IQ, and he looks like 1:35:33.479 --> 1:35:34.200 a Greek god. 1:35:34.680 --> 1:35:39.160 But making big plays in a big game is a whiz, Jules, 1:35:39.200 --> 1:35:42.559 because he knew when to make that play to turn 1:35:42.640 --> 1:35:43.760 it around for the team. 1:35:44.080 --> 1:35:44.920 Does that make sense? 1:35:45.240 --> 1:35:48.679 Yeah, he is like a but I would I would say, 1:35:48.720 --> 1:35:52.600 though we're trying to categorize it into what like he 1:35:52.760 --> 1:35:56.280 most represents. A whiz is a guy that doesn't have 1:35:57.120 --> 1:36:01.479 the freak abilities and they get through because they're so smart, 1:36:01.640 --> 1:36:05.000 and they're not getting through because they're a freak or 1:36:05.040 --> 1:36:07.920 a stud. So that's how you become a true wiz. 1:36:08.160 --> 1:36:11.120 So therefore, he was getting through as a freak and 1:36:11.280 --> 1:36:14.400 a stud and a dog. So he can't technically be 1:36:14.520 --> 1:36:17.280 a whiz because being a whiz didn't really lead him 1:36:17.400 --> 1:36:20.040 to where he needs to be. Maybe now as a coach. 1:36:20.320 --> 1:36:23.599 Going back to that, I'm gonna have to categorize him 1:36:24.439 --> 1:36:26.200 as a stud or a freak. 1:36:26.520 --> 1:36:29.280 So let's go. Let's go back at it again and 1:36:29.400 --> 1:36:38.280 try again. Ready, one, two, three? Stud for he saw 1:36:38.360 --> 1:36:41.320 his cats. You just it would scream stud. Let's get on. 1:36:41.600 --> 1:36:49.120 Vince will Fork, big dog, Vince welfor big v Oh 1:36:49.200 --> 1:36:52.559 my god, I wonder why something? 1:36:52.840 --> 1:36:56.240 Thanks for something? The Black Thanksgiving is his favorite holiday. 1:36:56.240 --> 1:36:58.880 I bet start the clock. What's he? I gotta say, 1:36:59.200 --> 1:36:59.879 Vince Welfork. 1:37:00.200 --> 1:37:02.360 He had six foot two and weighing around three hundred 1:37:02.360 --> 1:37:04.759 and twenty five pounds, played as a dominant nose tackle 1:37:04.800 --> 1:37:07.479 in the NFL three primarily I think he was like 1:37:07.520 --> 1:37:10.760 three fifty at one point in sixty primarily played for 1:37:10.800 --> 1:37:13.040 the New England Patriots and later for the Houston Texans. 1:37:13.400 --> 1:37:17.280 Growing up in boy Town Beach, Florida, I think so 1:37:17.400 --> 1:37:20.960 Boyton Boyton, boy Tom Beach, Florida, will Fork was a 1:37:21.040 --> 1:37:23.560 track and field standout before switching to football at the 1:37:23.680 --> 1:37:26.760 University of Miami. Selected twenty first overall in the two 1:37:26.800 --> 1:37:29.880 thousand and four draft, he was known for his strength, size, 1:37:30.080 --> 1:37:33.679 and ability to stuff the run, often drawing double teams 1:37:33.760 --> 1:37:37.479 and anchoring defenses with his power and scale. Over his career, 1:37:37.760 --> 1:37:40.679 will Fork recorded five hundred and sixty tackles, sixteen sacks, 1:37:40.720 --> 1:37:44.280 and three interceptions, earning two Super Bowl championships five Pro 1:37:44.360 --> 1:37:46.960 Bowl selections in a reputation as one of the best 1:37:47.040 --> 1:37:48.320 defense tackles. 1:37:47.960 --> 1:37:48.439 Of his era. 1:37:48.800 --> 1:37:52.240 Known for his charisma and a love for barbecue, he 1:37:52.320 --> 1:37:54.880 has remained a beloved figure off the field, where his 1:37:55.000 --> 1:37:58.160 big personality and big hits made him a fan favorite. 1:37:58.280 --> 1:38:01.240 That's a lot by Ai, the long synopsis. That's the 1:38:01.280 --> 1:38:04.280 longest one we had so far. But Vince deserves it. Yeah, 1:38:05.280 --> 1:38:08.000 deserves it. He's the biggest guy so far we've been 1:38:08.040 --> 1:38:10.280 talking about. He's about three hundred and sixty five pounds. 1:38:10.320 --> 1:38:12.439 I think they got it got it wrong there. This 1:38:12.520 --> 1:38:13.479 guy can eat you up. 1:38:13.560 --> 1:38:16.280 Man. He's lost a lot of weight now, he sure has. 1:38:16.360 --> 1:38:19.439 He looks really good, man, He really good. It looks 1:38:19.520 --> 1:38:20.120 good on him. 1:38:21.000 --> 1:38:23.280 It's just sad that you know he's not coming back though, 1:38:23.800 --> 1:38:25.920 you know, because every good player you always have that 1:38:26.120 --> 1:38:27.960 imagination that they're going to come back. 1:38:28.200 --> 1:38:30.599 He never he always thought, vin I think Ve can 1:38:30.640 --> 1:38:33.680 still play. You just have that thought about him. What's 1:38:33.720 --> 1:38:34.960 the first thing that comes to your mind when you 1:38:35.000 --> 1:38:36.720 think about Big V the barbecues. 1:38:36.880 --> 1:38:39.040 You know, he came out with his own barbecue saw 1:38:39.080 --> 1:38:41.599 some pretty sure. Mister Kraft used to have that team 1:38:41.680 --> 1:38:45.320 get together, team bonding at his house in the Cape 1:38:45.439 --> 1:38:47.120 after you made the team. It was right at the 1:38:47.240 --> 1:38:51.320 end of August. What howday's at right the end of August? 1:38:51.680 --> 1:38:52.120 Labor Day? 1:38:52.160 --> 1:38:55.120 Yeah, Labor Day yep, and uh, it was Labor Day 1:38:55.160 --> 1:38:57.040 week and we would all go up there and it'd 1:38:57.040 --> 1:39:00.360 be ribs or be you know, steaks, and here comes 1:39:00.439 --> 1:39:03.640 Big V coming through and he brings his own barbecue sauce. 1:39:03.560 --> 1:39:04.760 Every single year. 1:39:04.960 --> 1:39:07.840 And I wouldn't eat those ribs or a sar line 1:39:08.200 --> 1:39:11.479 or you know, the burger meet until that barbecue sauce 1:39:11.640 --> 1:39:14.240 got there. And once Big V showed up, Hey, Big 1:39:14.320 --> 1:39:15.960 V passed that sauce over, buddy. 1:39:16.360 --> 1:39:16.559 Yeah. 1:39:16.600 --> 1:39:19.599 He loved it too, man. He loved being known about 1:39:19.640 --> 1:39:23.719 that sauce. And he just loved just the atmosphere around 1:39:23.800 --> 1:39:24.360 a cookout. 1:39:24.520 --> 1:39:26.680 For I was fortunate enough to get invited to one 1:39:26.720 --> 1:39:30.880 of his cookouts. He smokes some ribs. He was into 1:39:30.960 --> 1:39:34.000 some big ass overalls with no shirt smoking ribs. He 1:39:34.200 --> 1:39:36.479 just looks at home when he's on a barbecue. He 1:39:36.560 --> 1:39:39.479 looks like that's he's at home. The first I remember 1:39:39.520 --> 1:39:42.559 when I was a rookie. He's comfortable. That's just comfort 1:39:42.640 --> 1:39:44.880 zone for him. It is I remember my rookie year. 1:39:45.200 --> 1:39:48.000 My welcome to the NFL moment was like I was 1:39:48.120 --> 1:39:51.800 rolling in, like my Toyota rental and I park it 1:39:51.880 --> 1:39:53.479 in the way back of the players a lot, and 1:39:53.560 --> 1:39:55.840 all of a sudden, there's this fucking huge semi a 1:39:55.920 --> 1:39:59.720 fucking semi truck rolls in and parks up right in 1:39:59.760 --> 1:40:06.320 the and takes like two damn spots backs in backs 1:40:06.400 --> 1:40:10.280 in this big ass orange semi truck. It's fucking Vince's 1:40:10.360 --> 1:40:13.720 daily driver. Vin's had like a huge semi truck daily driver. 1:40:13.840 --> 1:40:16.000 He gets out of thinking and it looked just like 1:40:16.720 --> 1:40:19.320 him in front of the barbecue, just a comfort zone 1:40:19.360 --> 1:40:21.240 for him. Just a big ass dude getting out of 1:40:21.280 --> 1:40:24.719 a big ass truck. Big v was just fucking so cool. 1:40:25.360 --> 1:40:27.040 That was like my first welcome bed and I was like, 1:40:27.120 --> 1:40:29.759 holy shit, I don't even know you can buy semi trucks. 1:40:29.920 --> 1:40:32.560 Well, speaking of welcome to the NFL, he gave me 1:40:32.680 --> 1:40:35.439 my welcome to the NFL dosage of a. 1:40:35.560 --> 1:40:39.719 Hit Wooden training camp rookie year. You know the wham block. 1:40:39.920 --> 1:40:41.240 What's the wam block explained? 1:40:41.320 --> 1:40:43.640 Where they let go the guy let go. That's the 1:40:44.240 --> 1:40:46.679 just defensive tackle free, so then he thinks he's gonna 1:40:46.720 --> 1:40:49.120 go get a sack. And then a wham block is 1:40:49.160 --> 1:40:51.120 when I come across the line of scrimmage at the 1:40:51.160 --> 1:40:53.280 tight end position, when I'm off the ball, and I'm 1:40:53.320 --> 1:40:56.480 the one that goes, and I wham the defensive. 1:40:56.080 --> 1:40:57.920 Tackle and try to block on make a trap for 1:40:58.000 --> 1:40:58.800 this tight end. 1:40:58.840 --> 1:41:02.280 There you go exactly and we're trapping the defensive tackle, 1:41:02.479 --> 1:41:03.679 so he knows it's coming. 1:41:03.800 --> 1:41:05.760 I mean, this is a specialty play that the New 1:41:05.800 --> 1:41:08.320 England Patriots been running nine nine seven. They know the 1:41:08.400 --> 1:41:10.920 fucking script well before me. Yeah it is. 1:41:11.120 --> 1:41:13.559 It was it was a nine nine to seven, so yeah, 1:41:13.680 --> 1:41:15.680 the defense does know the script so they can look 1:41:15.800 --> 1:41:18.639 really good in the run game throughout that whole period. 1:41:18.880 --> 1:41:21.559 And I think they also told him this play was coming, 1:41:21.880 --> 1:41:25.280 uh being specifically knowing I'm on the black Vince, and 1:41:25.360 --> 1:41:28.080 they wanted to see my toughness as a rookie. So 1:41:28.240 --> 1:41:32.120 the players called I'm in full Paz. You know, I'm 1:41:32.160 --> 1:41:34.160 a wam block. I got to show my toughness. I 1:41:34.200 --> 1:41:35.800 got to show my keeps. I got to get the 1:41:36.000 --> 1:41:39.240 respect of my fellow teammates, especially the veterans. 1:41:39.320 --> 1:41:42.160 Way, let me paint the picture. Also, Rob's a rookie here. 1:41:42.360 --> 1:41:46.280 Vive was like the big dog on campus. In practice. 1:41:46.479 --> 1:41:48.320 No one really gets close to him because you don't 1:41:48.320 --> 1:41:50.320 want to piss him off. When you're new, you know, 1:41:50.560 --> 1:41:53.280 it's like, holy shit, is that a that is a 1:41:53.400 --> 1:41:56.200 large human being. He's like so big, I think there's 1:41:56.280 --> 1:41:59.200 like something that orbits him, like on how round he is? 1:41:59.760 --> 1:42:01.519 Like that's you didn't want to get in his way. 1:42:01.520 --> 1:42:03.000 He didn't want to piss him off because he was 1:42:03.200 --> 1:42:06.040 very intimidating. Get back to your story. So the play, 1:42:06.560 --> 1:42:08.920 you know, gets on its way. Do my little to 1:42:09.320 --> 1:42:11.800 you know, two side steps, you know on the motion. 1:42:11.960 --> 1:42:15.400 I'm running full speed right at Vince Wolford. This guy 1:42:16.280 --> 1:42:20.400 peeks over to his left. He sees me coming. He 1:42:20.520 --> 1:42:23.360 has this grin on his face. Knowing I was coming, 1:42:23.600 --> 1:42:26.800 he put his shoulder down. I'm going full speed at him, 1:42:27.439 --> 1:42:30.840 and he gets that leverage and just tease off on me. 1:42:31.000 --> 1:42:35.479 I went flying backwards five to six yards. I didn't 1:42:35.479 --> 1:42:38.160 even land on my back. He sent me flying in 1:42:38.240 --> 1:42:40.720 the air where I landed on my feet still. Oh 1:42:40.800 --> 1:42:41.320 my god. 1:42:41.400 --> 1:42:44.800 Yeah, and that hit hurt like a mother effort. But 1:42:44.960 --> 1:42:47.240 what's cool is I gained the respect to my teammates 1:42:47.280 --> 1:42:50.240 and my coach at that time, tight end coach, in 1:42:50.320 --> 1:42:52.960 that meeting that day when we went and reviewed the playerings. 1:42:53.160 --> 1:42:56.479 Brian Farrens, Love you, Brian Farrens. He's now at Iowa 1:42:56.640 --> 1:42:58.599 with his dad doing, you know, doing his thing. 1:42:58.600 --> 1:42:59.400 Doing a good job. 1:42:59.600 --> 1:43:02.599 He goes, Yo, what were you thinking trying to block 1:43:02.680 --> 1:43:05.559 Vince Wolf for He goes, You're never gonna do that again. 1:43:05.640 --> 1:43:09.040 I go, thank you, thank you. I go, I'll never 1:43:09.120 --> 1:43:11.120 do it again. And ever since that day, you know, 1:43:11.240 --> 1:43:13.080 we had about five more of those calls, and I 1:43:13.200 --> 1:43:13.840 just go up to him. 1:43:13.840 --> 1:43:14.320 I hug him. 1:43:14.479 --> 1:43:16.080 I didn't need to try to block him. It was 1:43:16.200 --> 1:43:19.160 just only gonna get me hurt from there on out. Yeah, 1:43:19.200 --> 1:43:21.000 I just give him a hug, like Vince No, No, 1:43:21.120 --> 1:43:22.880 it's the way I'm black man. I know you're gonna 1:43:22.880 --> 1:43:24.880 beat me, like, there's there's no reason to go through 1:43:24.960 --> 1:43:27.679 this motion of me getting thrown backwards again. 1:43:27.920 --> 1:43:30.040 Oh my god, I'm gonna break a rib. 1:43:30.520 --> 1:43:32.760 He's so he's so sure you love your ribs and 1:43:32.840 --> 1:43:35.559 you're gonna you know, you'll probably eat him and join 1:43:35.640 --> 1:43:37.120 him after with your barbecue sauce. 1:43:37.160 --> 1:43:42.320 Body. Oh my, that had to be so terrifying. It was, 1:43:42.880 --> 1:43:45.600 well at that time, it was intimidating guy when you 1:43:45.720 --> 1:43:46.439 joined the team. 1:43:46.320 --> 1:43:49.439 Too, terrifying after that because I was trying to, you know, 1:43:50.040 --> 1:43:52.599 gainer my keeps man like, I was trying to prove myself, 1:43:52.640 --> 1:43:54.240 so I didn't care who was in my way. 1:43:54.280 --> 1:43:56.160 And then I learned, I do care who's in my way. 1:43:56.600 --> 1:43:58.519 Yeah, and when when it comes down to the NFL, 1:43:58.560 --> 1:44:01.320 you gotta that's when you learn then when to you know, 1:44:01.560 --> 1:44:03.880 take your shots to someone and when not to, when 1:44:04.000 --> 1:44:06.720 to block someone hard, when to kind of like just 1:44:07.000 --> 1:44:09.479 brother in law, box someone out as well, instead of 1:44:09.560 --> 1:44:11.120 trying to hit him full speak and you hit him 1:44:11.120 --> 1:44:13.080 full speed heads up. They you know, they're way bigger 1:44:13.120 --> 1:44:15.000 than you. This is when you started learning the ins 1:44:15.040 --> 1:44:17.920 and outs. And that's one ins and out. I learned 1:44:18.000 --> 1:44:18.639 big time. 1:44:18.680 --> 1:44:21.800 Freaking v And he was so quick too, Like that's 1:44:21.840 --> 1:44:24.920 what people don't realize, like they just surprisingly. 1:44:24.360 --> 1:44:26.639 Quick because of how big he was and his feet 1:44:26.640 --> 1:44:28.400 he had fast feet. Man, he was kind of like 1:44:28.479 --> 1:44:32.559 a running back. That pitter patters, like whoa big burp 1:44:32.680 --> 1:44:35.160 right there, Jules. Wow, was the barbecue I ate from 1:44:35.200 --> 1:44:37.400 five years ago with big vans and still coming out 1:44:37.479 --> 1:44:39.840 we ate that much. I tasted that barbecue sauce right 1:44:39.920 --> 1:44:42.800 that was good. But his feet were surprisingly click. 1:44:42.840 --> 1:44:44.599 He was like boom. He was a rabbit out there. 1:44:45.160 --> 1:44:47.120 I remember always going in the weight room and you 1:44:47.280 --> 1:44:49.680 go over by like the kettlebells and like the arm 1:44:49.760 --> 1:44:52.200 bars and stuff, and there'd always be a shock put there. 1:44:52.280 --> 1:44:54.240 Remember him. You ever see him shot put? And I 1:44:54.360 --> 1:44:56.320 never have? Oh my god, he can shock. He was 1:44:56.360 --> 1:44:58.280 a fucking track star. I think he had like the 1:44:58.320 --> 1:44:58.960 state record. 1:44:59.439 --> 1:45:02.280 He had strength too. I remember like he wouldn't go 1:45:02.400 --> 1:45:05.960 in the weight room to just like warm up, you know, 1:45:06.160 --> 1:45:09.360 do three fifteen like five. He would just go in 1:45:09.479 --> 1:45:12.080 the weight room just to you know, maintain his strength. 1:45:12.160 --> 1:45:14.120 And he would just walk in and I remember him 1:45:14.160 --> 1:45:16.679 just throwing up like four hundred and twenty five pounds 1:45:16.720 --> 1:45:18.960 in the bench and just tossing it up then racking 1:45:19.000 --> 1:45:22.240 it and be like I'm done for today. Yeah, Like 1:45:22.400 --> 1:45:23.960 he didn't even need to work on his strength that 1:45:24.080 --> 1:45:26.760 much because he was just that strong naturally and like 1:45:26.880 --> 1:45:28.400 it was to a whole nother level. 1:45:28.560 --> 1:45:30.360 Yeah. I remember seeing him in the weight room toom 1:45:30.439 --> 1:45:34.040 he like Marcus Cannon. When he would work out, the 1:45:34.360 --> 1:45:37.800 weights would bend. He was just so strong and he 1:45:38.200 --> 1:45:41.040 had always great movement like he was very He was 1:45:41.240 --> 1:45:45.240 very skillful, like fluid fluid. Like when you watch Big 1:45:45.360 --> 1:45:48.200 V throw football, he looks like like he spins the 1:45:48.240 --> 1:45:50.960 ball really well. You see him hit a golf ball. 1:45:51.120 --> 1:45:54.240 He fucking has an unbelievable golf swing. I mean, the 1:45:54.320 --> 1:45:57.000 guy is so athletic. He used to return punts in 1:45:57.080 --> 1:46:00.280 high school. Like I remember, you know, Bill always every 1:46:00.320 --> 1:46:03.280 training camp when it's getting to like day nine ten, 1:46:03.880 --> 1:46:07.640 guys who are worn down, beat up mentally, physically, emotionally exhausted, 1:46:07.680 --> 1:46:10.200 he'd always have a big lineman come in and try 1:46:10.240 --> 1:46:11.960 to catch a pun and if you caught punch, you'd 1:46:12.000 --> 1:46:13.800 have the night off. He threw v up there and 1:46:13.880 --> 1:46:15.720 it looked too fucking easy. I think he went in 1:46:15.880 --> 1:46:16.880 snagged that thing was. 1:46:17.160 --> 1:46:20.439 He was so athletic. He could have played fullback. I 1:46:20.520 --> 1:46:23.240 swear he could play running back and it gets gained 1:46:23.280 --> 1:46:26.599 some yards before going down tight end. He could definitely 1:46:26.680 --> 1:46:29.640 play I heard him talking about this too as well. 1:46:29.680 --> 1:46:33.280 He could play defensive end obviously, anywhere on the defensive line, 1:46:33.560 --> 1:46:35.240 and he, like you said, quarterback as well. 1:46:35.280 --> 1:46:35.880 He had an arm. 1:46:35.960 --> 1:46:38.240 He loved being you know, before practice was going on, 1:46:38.760 --> 1:46:40.519 you know, before we get really got into it, he'd 1:46:40.520 --> 1:46:44.439 be chucking the ball, you know, to his fellow defensive players, 1:46:45.120 --> 1:46:47.480 having a good old time. He was just so disruptive 1:46:47.880 --> 1:46:49.519 as well. And he was kind of like the two 1:46:49.640 --> 1:46:53.360 gap god when he was, you know, on that defensive 1:46:53.400 --> 1:46:56.080 line and being able to take two gaps. You know 1:46:56.160 --> 1:46:59.080 how much Steff Freese, that linebacker, that's a linebacker's best 1:46:59.080 --> 1:47:01.600 friend right there, Vince Well, I. 1:47:01.600 --> 1:47:05.599 Mean, Drod Mayo, Dante high Tower, Jamie Caul, they all 1:47:05.640 --> 1:47:07.800 love them. They all do it. And guys like they 1:47:07.920 --> 1:47:10.160 love guys that take double teams. Lets you get to 1:47:10.200 --> 1:47:13.560 that fucking kind of Big V just said. Big V 1:47:13.760 --> 1:47:16.880 has so many stats. He had so much production for 1:47:17.040 --> 1:47:20.559 the amount of stats he had, because he had such 1:47:20.720 --> 1:47:24.920 hidden things that made plays go. It was unblockable, and 1:47:25.439 --> 1:47:27.600 you take two double teams, they can never get the 1:47:27.720 --> 1:47:30.839 guy to the second level. Like he just was fucking 1:47:31.200 --> 1:47:34.080 a monster. And we wanted to talk about him on 1:47:34.200 --> 1:47:39.080 this show specifically because because what is he known for 1:47:39.240 --> 1:47:43.120 on Thanksgiving, Jules, He's the one that created the butt but. 1:47:45.160 --> 1:47:51.439 The force, the generator of the butt fumball versus the 1:47:51.560 --> 1:47:57.360 New York Jets. Sanchez, Oh my god, he did that before. 1:47:57.760 --> 1:48:00.840 Like he it's where he gets so much penetration. 1:48:01.840 --> 1:48:04.800 He drives his guy back so far that it hit 1:48:05.360 --> 1:48:08.360 the quarterback with the guy that he was driving backs. 1:48:08.680 --> 1:48:13.240 But that made him fumble the football and Steve Gregory 1:48:13.360 --> 1:48:17.360 scoop score in his home area of New Jersey, which 1:48:17.520 --> 1:48:20.880 was just a fucking crazy game. That comes to my 1:48:21.080 --> 1:48:23.960 mind when I think events of some of his crazy stories. 1:48:24.240 --> 1:48:26.840 But also remember when we were in Buffalo and he 1:48:27.000 --> 1:48:29.800 read out the receivers Stron what was he rewarded with? 1:48:30.000 --> 1:48:30.160 Though? 1:48:30.439 --> 1:48:32.439 After that we had the turkey on the post game, 1:48:32.680 --> 1:48:34.439 he had the turkey leg. He had the turkey leg. 1:48:34.560 --> 1:48:38.000 He rewarded with a turkey leg during the post game 1:48:38.120 --> 1:48:40.320 for his contribution to the butt. 1:48:40.120 --> 1:48:42.280 Fumble, and he ate that thing. He ate it all. 1:48:42.800 --> 1:48:44.840 Not surprised. So what was it that you were talking 1:48:44.880 --> 1:48:47.240 about in Buffalo? Remember in Buffalo where they had that 1:48:47.360 --> 1:48:51.800 receiver screen and v read it and he was full 1:48:52.240 --> 1:48:55.639 full speed and a receiver was full speed, not seeing him, 1:48:55.640 --> 1:48:57.439 and it looked like it looked like it was semi 1:48:57.520 --> 1:49:00.280 hit like one of those little smart cars. Oh my god, gosh, 1:49:00.920 --> 1:49:01.920 this this is the receiver. 1:49:02.200 --> 1:49:04.040 Like he was up, he was up, and them like 1:49:04.160 --> 1:49:06.560 your finger just got bent backwards in matter of a 1:49:06.920 --> 1:49:07.559 split second. 1:49:07.560 --> 1:49:09.840 Boom. That looked like the receiver right there. Boom. It's 1:49:09.920 --> 1:49:12.479 not even that, it's not even the mass. Imagine if 1:49:12.520 --> 1:49:15.240 he like fell on you going that fast, at least 1:49:15.640 --> 1:49:19.360 you like a bug, like a fucking bug. I bet 1:49:19.400 --> 1:49:20.519 you got his why out. 1:49:20.360 --> 1:49:23.120 Of the air and it just explodes everywhere. That's kind 1:49:23.160 --> 1:49:24.880 of what happened to the Bills Wide receiver. 1:49:25.600 --> 1:49:28.760 And you always they flattened him, No, it was it 1:49:28.880 --> 1:49:32.080 was that's a terrifying hit. Like that's like, that was 1:49:32.160 --> 1:49:34.000 a terrifying hit. There's a lot of big hits that 1:49:34.040 --> 1:49:35.519 you see. You're like, all right, you can you can 1:49:35.560 --> 1:49:39.000 withstand that. But when it's it's straight physics. When you 1:49:39.080 --> 1:49:44.200 got mass times velocity, you get forced, you get fucking force. 1:49:44.520 --> 1:49:46.800 And that's what Big V was. I don't know if 1:49:46.840 --> 1:49:48.920 that's right for you physics people get us in there. 1:49:49.280 --> 1:49:52.559 But then also what about what about his interceptions? We're 1:49:52.600 --> 1:49:55.120 talking big plays here. I mean he had that that 1:49:55.320 --> 1:49:59.519 pick versus Philip Rivers at home in Gillette Stadium when 1:49:59.600 --> 1:50:01.479 he was was that another screen or he was just 1:50:01.800 --> 1:50:04.200 I think he was he got tipped or somebody. 1:50:04.240 --> 1:50:05.519 Yeah, did he tip it? 1:50:06.000 --> 1:50:06.680 Did he tip it? 1:50:06.840 --> 1:50:08.920 Yeah, he tipped it to himself. He showed great ball 1:50:09.000 --> 1:50:12.120 skills right there. And then then you saw your fast feet, yes, 1:50:12.240 --> 1:50:14.400 and then he started just you know, trucking down the 1:50:14.439 --> 1:50:17.200 field like a rabbit with his fast feet. He looked nimble, 1:50:17.439 --> 1:50:21.400 and he looked agile and just rumbling down the field. 1:50:21.560 --> 1:50:26.120 I don't think anyone in the world that watched that play, 1:50:27.120 --> 1:50:29.760 anyone in the world didn't want that big man to 1:50:29.800 --> 1:50:34.200 score when a big man has because the ball looked 1:50:34.240 --> 1:50:37.080 like a fucking like, uh, a paper talent is in 1:50:37.160 --> 1:50:41.559 his armpit, a loaf of bread. I mean it pumper nickel, 1:50:41.800 --> 1:50:45.360 pumper nickel. It looks so small and he's like running 1:50:45.479 --> 1:50:47.960 it and like everyone is just sitting there, like, look 1:50:48.000 --> 1:50:52.320 at the big big go Remember Komley also did that 1:50:52.520 --> 1:50:57.200 and they kick off return packers. I love big man 1:50:57.240 --> 1:51:01.120 get or score a touchdown, score touch his own. A soldier, 1:51:01.400 --> 1:51:04.040 everyone loves it man. A soldier had that one the 1:51:04.800 --> 1:51:06.880 Lions are doing it a lot. Lions are doing it. 1:51:07.000 --> 1:51:10.080 We're speaking of Thanksgiving, you know, teams Lions in there, 1:51:10.479 --> 1:51:14.280 you know, don't don't not expect a trick play to 1:51:14.400 --> 1:51:16.719 alignment this Thanksgiving from the Detroit Lions. 1:51:17.240 --> 1:51:19.559 I mean, or a fake punt. You're gonna, You're gonna. 1:51:19.560 --> 1:51:22.040 There's gonna be something like that. We we talked about 1:51:22.080 --> 1:51:25.360 on this show a few weeks back. Tight End University 1:51:25.439 --> 1:51:28.400 Day or Happy tight End Day, what's called National tight 1:51:28.479 --> 1:51:30.320 End Day, National tight End There's got to be a 1:51:30.439 --> 1:51:34.120 national big Guy touchdown Day or a big Guy catch Day. 1:51:34.320 --> 1:51:36.360 It just needs to be national bing Like. 1:51:36.760 --> 1:51:39.840 It's a rule in the NFL book that you have 1:51:40.520 --> 1:51:44.439 to at least run one tackle eligible, play. 1:51:44.479 --> 1:51:48.040 One tackle eligible. The guy has to be over two 1:51:48.479 --> 1:51:52.040 and seventy five pounds and eighty five pounds has to 1:51:52.160 --> 1:51:56.360 touch a football on one specific day, National Big Fat 1:51:56.400 --> 1:51:58.760 Guy Day. I like that. That's what I think. We 1:51:59.080 --> 1:52:01.679 like that. Who's gonna stay? I think we need Big V. Yeah, 1:52:01.800 --> 1:52:04.000 Big V, come on, let's go. You remember in the 1:52:04.040 --> 1:52:07.280 butt foomball game. I remember watching it the next day 1:52:08.000 --> 1:52:11.599 in meetings. Bill rewinded it like four or five times, 1:52:12.080 --> 1:52:14.960 barely said anything, and then like got up and talked 1:52:15.000 --> 1:52:18.400 and he said, the Jets got exactly what they deserved, 1:52:19.280 --> 1:52:22.120 like did something like one of those you know, do 1:52:22.160 --> 1:52:24.639 you remember that. I actually was hurt that year duel. 1:52:24.760 --> 1:52:26.880 So I was at home just watching it from my couch, 1:52:27.040 --> 1:52:31.839 just enjoying my Thanksgiving, and I just remember that play happening. 1:52:32.120 --> 1:52:36.640 I was shocked because we were already dominating that, dominating. 1:52:36.280 --> 1:52:37.000 Dominating them. 1:52:37.080 --> 1:52:39.439 It wasn't even a close game at all. And just 1:52:39.520 --> 1:52:42.600 when that happened, I was giggling to myself, like what 1:52:42.800 --> 1:52:45.360 a play. I never seen anything like that. And I 1:52:45.560 --> 1:52:48.439 was screaming too, because Gregory just scooped it like it 1:52:48.600 --> 1:52:51.400 just didn't happen, a butt fumble and directly in his hands. No, 1:52:51.680 --> 1:52:53.639 directly on the ground and directly in the Gregory's hand. 1:52:54.160 --> 1:52:56.880 It went to the end zone of the Patriots as well. 1:52:56.920 --> 1:52:59.680 We got six points out of it. It's like it 1:53:00.080 --> 1:53:02.519 that doesn't happen usually, usually, like a play like that, 1:53:02.920 --> 1:53:04.639 you know, usually someone just gets on it and it's 1:53:04.640 --> 1:53:05.439 a fumble recovery. 1:53:05.479 --> 1:53:08.120 It went to the house. We scored on it. How 1:53:08.160 --> 1:53:10.760 do you think sanchiz or Sanchito feels about that? 1:53:10.880 --> 1:53:14.000 I mean, Sanchiz is a good dude, was a goofy dude, 1:53:14.560 --> 1:53:16.560 so I think he kind of likes it. 1:53:17.080 --> 1:53:18.519 I think he does owns it. 1:53:18.760 --> 1:53:23.479 Yeah, yeah, he does own it for sure. He'll giggle 1:53:23.560 --> 1:53:26.200 about it for sure. It's kind of like the Miami miracle. 1:53:26.240 --> 1:53:28.400 I own that play. Yeah, he's kind of like the 1:53:28.439 --> 1:53:31.120 butt fumble with Sanchez. I mean it's okay, I mean, 1:53:31.360 --> 1:53:31.920 it happens. 1:53:32.080 --> 1:53:34.560 It's kind of like the two thousand and four or 1:53:34.640 --> 1:53:38.639 two thousand and two frosh Off Championship between the Bee 1:53:38.640 --> 1:53:41.479 Division Ocean Division. You know, I gave this interception away 1:53:41.960 --> 1:53:43.200 and they won it on it. It's kind of like 1:53:43.240 --> 1:53:46.439 you own it now, fucking him a I'll never own it. 1:53:47.120 --> 1:53:50.479 It's bullshit. It's okay, Jules. One day you'll own it. 1:53:50.720 --> 1:53:53.479 You'll get over it. It's okay, man, we're here for it. 1:53:53.680 --> 1:53:55.479 Just be thankful for other things and then. 1:53:55.400 --> 1:53:57.720 You'll get over that. You know what. I'm also thankful for. 1:53:57.960 --> 1:53:58.800 What are you thankful for? 1:53:59.160 --> 1:53:59.200 That? 1:53:59.400 --> 1:54:02.240 We were a part of probably two of the craziest 1:54:02.280 --> 1:54:06.400 play calls in the history of football. One the butt fumble. Yes, 1:54:06.760 --> 1:54:09.880 what's more embarrassing the butt fumble? Or do you remember 1:54:09.920 --> 1:54:14.240 when the Colts had that stupid punt formation that they tried. 1:54:14.280 --> 1:54:17.800 It sad it was fourth and two and they were 1:54:17.840 --> 1:54:21.479 trying to get us on a trick more than four. 1:54:21.680 --> 1:54:23.880 It was a weird formation they had, like everyone spread 1:54:23.920 --> 1:54:27.280 out wide and then the center was down in distance 1:54:27.320 --> 1:54:29.080 and then there was a running back behind the center 1:54:29.200 --> 1:54:32.320 or something, and then they hiked it and everyone was 1:54:32.360 --> 1:54:35.080 in like in shock, like what that. 1:54:36.640 --> 1:54:39.400 Going? And that's the only reason I bring this up 1:54:39.600 --> 1:54:42.360 is because the same shock factor that we had that like, 1:54:42.520 --> 1:54:45.680 did that but just make that fumble and then we 1:54:45.720 --> 1:54:48.400 scored a touchdown. That same shock factor is the same 1:54:48.480 --> 1:54:51.560 shock factor we had when they did this punt formation thing. 1:54:51.800 --> 1:54:53.960 Did he really hiked the ball? 1:54:54.400 --> 1:54:57.440 I'm not a math guy, but three on one, I'm 1:54:57.480 --> 1:54:59.920 looking at the Colt sideline right here after the play. 1:55:00.440 --> 1:55:06.240 Are you fucking serious? What is this? Like? This is 1:55:06.280 --> 1:55:09.000 a National Football League and they're only down by six 1:55:09.080 --> 1:55:11.240 in the third quarter. I don't know. That's the cults 1:55:11.320 --> 1:55:13.720 for you. That was that was worse so than the 1:55:13.760 --> 1:55:17.120 buff fumble. Yeah, because both that's made through force in 1:55:17.560 --> 1:55:21.680 gravity exactly. The butt fumble was made by Vince in 1:55:21.800 --> 1:55:27.240 that fucking three hundred and twenty five pound frame twenty 1:55:27.520 --> 1:55:32.920 five pound frame, taking his matchup and driving him into 1:55:33.000 --> 1:55:38.000 the fucking I'm flabberg acid. I didn't realize we were 1:55:38.040 --> 1:55:40.000 going to get into that play. I think they rose 1:55:40.040 --> 1:55:42.000 the banner that year. That's why I never lost. Was 1:55:42.040 --> 1:55:43.880 that the banner year they rose? They never lost to 1:55:43.960 --> 1:55:45.720 the Colt. Did we ever lose to the Colts? I 1:55:45.800 --> 1:55:49.280 did in two thousand and nine four two, Yeah, so 1:55:49.360 --> 1:55:52.400 it doesn't count. How about the big boy on Body Issues? 1:55:52.640 --> 1:55:56.040 I mean he's he's not like it looks like muscle. 1:55:56.760 --> 1:55:57.480 It is muscle. 1:55:57.920 --> 1:56:00.000 That's why I love the ESPN the Body Issue because 1:56:00.080 --> 1:56:02.040 they featured everyone. 1:56:02.360 --> 1:56:05.440 Yeah, and they were just showing how were you on it? 1:56:05.600 --> 1:56:09.000 The statue? Yes, how the statue of the body representing 1:56:09.160 --> 1:56:12.640 all different types of athletes, from a guy that played 1:56:13.400 --> 1:56:17.960 tackle to a wide receiver to myself right there? Young, 1:56:18.640 --> 1:56:20.520 You want to know, the running joke was about me, 1:56:21.360 --> 1:56:23.520 I'm being on the Body Issue cover? 1:56:23.760 --> 1:56:27.000 What was that? The circle? It was really small that 1:56:27.120 --> 1:56:32.360 they needed to use. What circle? The cover? Me out? Yeah? 1:56:32.520 --> 1:56:34.680 You know what, I didn't they tell you it was 1:56:34.680 --> 1:56:36.600 going to be a small set, like there's not gonna 1:56:36.600 --> 1:56:37.400 be a lot of people there. 1:56:37.600 --> 1:56:40.040 There really wasn't There's probably like five, five or six. 1:56:40.120 --> 1:56:41.560 How many people were on your I feel like there 1:56:41.640 --> 1:56:42.560 was thirty in mine. 1:56:42.480 --> 1:56:43.400 Really thirty. 1:56:43.440 --> 1:56:45.400 I wanted to see you, Jules. You're a good looking guy. 1:56:45.760 --> 1:56:46.920 I had a wonderful body. 1:56:47.280 --> 1:56:50.040 Now, how did the How did the football stay on? 1:56:50.360 --> 1:56:51.160 It's a good question. 1:56:52.040 --> 1:56:54.960 I was kind of adjusting it before every shot, and 1:56:55.120 --> 1:56:58.160 then I kind of adjusted it so I kind of 1:56:58.240 --> 1:56:59.240 found that niche did. 1:56:59.160 --> 1:57:01.800 You take to keep that thing staked up so you 1:57:01.880 --> 1:57:03.040 could just post it on there? 1:57:03.520 --> 1:57:06.400 No? No, it was actually one of the worst performance 1:57:07.320 --> 1:57:09.480 looking days of my life. It was kind of chilly 1:57:09.520 --> 1:57:14.200 in there. I felt like I felt like a frozen raisin. Yeah, 1:57:14.800 --> 1:57:18.600 and I was just giggling at myself every time I 1:57:18.680 --> 1:57:19.760 look back at the pictures. 1:57:20.400 --> 1:57:23.200 It was bad. Yeah, it was bad. It was bad. 1:57:23.400 --> 1:57:26.160 I was embarrassed just looking at it myself. It was 1:57:26.280 --> 1:57:28.680 crazy because like you would see like a picture after 1:57:29.080 --> 1:57:31.680 you know, you'd go with the photographer and your your 1:57:31.720 --> 1:57:34.480 wiener would be out and you'd see the picture and 1:57:34.560 --> 1:57:36.960 then all of a sudden they'd be like, oh, don't worry, 1:57:37.000 --> 1:57:37.680 we could just cut that. 1:57:37.880 --> 1:57:40.680 Yeah, but you're sitting there worrying because you're like you're 1:57:40.720 --> 1:57:45.520 gonna go tell everyone you know, and then that person 1:57:45.600 --> 1:57:46.120 that's reviewing. 1:57:46.200 --> 1:57:50.560 I requested three degrees in the shoot set. It was 1:57:51.000 --> 1:57:55.960 sixty ten minutes. What kind of dude is Vince will 1:57:56.080 --> 1:58:01.480 fork stud A freak, a dog, a dude's dude, or 1:58:01.560 --> 1:58:03.880 a whiz. I mean, he's a waste. 1:58:04.360 --> 1:58:08.560 He has a lot of intellectual and knowledge of the 1:58:08.600 --> 1:58:10.920 game of football. I mean, he was a smart player. 1:58:11.040 --> 1:58:13.560 That's why he knew that big play that he made 1:58:13.600 --> 1:58:15.640 when we were talking about it versus the Buffalo Bills, 1:58:15.680 --> 1:58:18.360 and he absolutely dominated the receiver on that screen across 1:58:18.480 --> 1:58:20.920 the middle because he saw that play coming. He sniffed 1:58:20.920 --> 1:58:22.800 it out like he was a wizard out there. That's 1:58:22.840 --> 1:58:25.200 how he made majority of his play same with his interceptions. 1:58:25.240 --> 1:58:26.360 He knew the screen was coming. 1:58:26.440 --> 1:58:27.080 He backed off. 1:58:27.200 --> 1:58:29.040 He knew that when he got dropped, he wasn't going 1:58:29.120 --> 1:58:31.040 to just go to the quarterback and get a free sack. 1:58:31.120 --> 1:58:34.080 He knew there must be a different type of play coming. Oh, 1:58:34.120 --> 1:58:36.120 it's going to be a screen or it's a gimmick 1:58:36.200 --> 1:58:38.480 or something. I mean, he was smart, bro, He was 1:58:38.680 --> 1:58:41.400 very smart on that football field, I'm telling you. I mean, yeah, 1:58:41.440 --> 1:58:44.320 he was a freak for his size, I mean three sixty, 1:58:44.560 --> 1:58:46.800 just the way that he could move, his athletic ability 1:58:47.040 --> 1:58:49.760 kind of a dude's dude as well, with his barbecues. Man, 1:58:50.200 --> 1:58:53.960 inviting the guys over and having that barbecue sauce for everyone. 1:58:54.320 --> 1:58:56.680 He's also a fucking dog. Yeah, he was a dog. 1:58:56.800 --> 1:58:58.920 He was grimy in there. Oh yeah, when you're the 1:58:59.040 --> 1:59:01.840 guy taking the dumble team the whole time, and you 1:59:02.000 --> 1:59:04.640 know you have to go getting six hundred pounds every 1:59:04.800 --> 1:59:08.040 fucking play because he's taking double teams every play, six 1:59:08.120 --> 1:59:08.640 hundred pounds. 1:59:08.720 --> 1:59:10.960 And he would take those double teams and kind of 1:59:11.080 --> 1:59:13.840 just eat those double teams up, he really would, and 1:59:14.040 --> 1:59:16.200 just let that linebacker just free to go in and 1:59:16.280 --> 1:59:16.920 make the place. 1:59:17.480 --> 1:59:20.600 I mean, he's a fucking stud atletics. He is, man, 1:59:20.760 --> 1:59:23.560 I mean he could shoot a basketball. I mean he's 1:59:23.600 --> 1:59:26.800 insane thrower of the football. You watch his golf swing, 1:59:26.880 --> 1:59:29.120 You're like, holy fuck, I think he's scratched golf. This 1:59:29.240 --> 1:59:30.360 is a true tough one. Man. 1:59:30.440 --> 1:59:33.760 This is really tough to really categorize and pinpoint Vince 1:59:33.840 --> 1:59:35.600 Wolfork to just one category. 1:59:36.120 --> 1:59:38.240 Man, it's gonna be tough on three. What do you 1:59:38.320 --> 1:59:38.920 expect one? 1:59:39.000 --> 1:59:39.120 Oh? 1:59:39.200 --> 1:59:41.480 Man? Hold on, let me keep thinking about this. Man. 1:59:41.760 --> 1:59:51.080 Oh alright, alright, one two three, freuiz ah man oh man, 1:59:51.640 --> 1:59:53.720 I know, man, he is a freaked. 1:59:53.360 --> 1:59:55.720 Though, but he's he's so smart. Man, I'm telling you 1:59:55.840 --> 1:59:57.240 he's a smart football player. 1:59:57.280 --> 1:59:59.320 Yeah, but that goes into his freakiness where you think 1:59:59.360 --> 2:00:02.760 a guy that looks like him is smart. He's great. 2:00:03.200 --> 2:00:05.480 He's great in commercials too, like you see him in 2:00:05.560 --> 2:00:07.200 that stove commercials. 2:00:06.680 --> 2:00:09.040 Now, like grilling and all that he's on TV. 2:00:09.400 --> 2:00:12.520 But you also just sit there like smart large gotta 2:00:12.560 --> 2:00:15.240 be smart large guy right now. That, like we said, 2:00:15.280 --> 2:00:18.120 we're categorizing freaks. As you're just looking at someone You're like, 2:00:18.200 --> 2:00:19.560 how can they possibly do that? 2:00:20.280 --> 2:00:24.320 And that size also also like f can we say, yeah, 2:00:24.480 --> 2:00:27.080 he's he's a wizard though. Can you agree with that? 2:00:27.320 --> 2:00:31.320 I'm I mean, I always, I mean Bill talking about 2:00:31.320 --> 2:00:33.600 how smart he is a football player instinctive. 2:00:34.040 --> 2:00:36.880 So I do agree he is a freak of nature. 2:00:37.000 --> 2:00:39.720 I mean obviously to be that size, to move, you know, 2:00:39.880 --> 2:00:42.200 to move that well on the football field, take on 2:00:42.320 --> 2:00:44.720 double teams and just squash him. Just the way he 2:00:44.840 --> 2:00:47.000 tackled guys too. They would go right down. There was 2:00:47.040 --> 2:00:49.560 no mistackles by Vince Wallfork when he got your hands on. 2:00:49.600 --> 2:00:52.920 You, no, so he drape you down and he's swallow you. 2:00:53.120 --> 2:00:57.080 All right, we'll try again. Let's do it again. One, two, three, 2:00:57.440 --> 2:01:01.760 freak stamp it. We'll be right back after this quick break. 2:01:02.400 --> 2:01:06.480 I'm feeling pretty good off one beer? Are you actually 2:01:06.600 --> 2:01:08.400 like seventh eighth of a beer? 2:01:08.640 --> 2:01:11.400 Math? Not one beer yet? Math guy? What is our 2:01:11.440 --> 2:01:11.840 next guy? 2:01:11.920 --> 2:01:12.520 Isn't this the guy? 2:01:12.640 --> 2:01:14.320 The next guy isn't the guy that we play with? 2:01:14.560 --> 2:01:18.240 Who do we got? Oh? We got number seventy six 2:01:18.640 --> 2:01:22.640 by Michael By You freak we got? Oh? 2:01:22.880 --> 2:01:25.680 I don't want him to see me, like, don't show that, 2:01:25.880 --> 2:01:27.360 like I just do a picture. I don't want to 2:01:27.440 --> 2:01:29.480 come after me. He's a freak. 2:01:29.560 --> 2:01:32.640 Yeah, he's a freak. But all right, all right, back 2:01:32.720 --> 2:01:35.080 to Sebastian. I'm gonna have I'm gonna hire Sebastian to 2:01:35.200 --> 2:01:35.840 be my body guy. 2:01:36.680 --> 2:01:41.200 A second round pick and I think two ten, two 2:01:41.240 --> 2:01:47.480 thousand and nine, maybe some Bastian vomber Sebastian v aka 2:01:47.640 --> 2:01:51.480 Sea bass Sea bass kick his assert the clock? 2:01:51.920 --> 2:01:53.320 What does a I have to say about him? 2:01:53.320 --> 2:01:56.440 Bump bump bum Ai. Let's see if AI knows anything 2:01:56.720 --> 2:02:02.360 done shumming people. Sebustan was a prolific offensive tackle for 2:02:02.440 --> 2:02:05.800 the New England Patriots, known for his six eight frame 2:02:06.240 --> 2:02:09.000 and three hundred and twenty pounds of strength. 2:02:09.240 --> 2:02:13.520 Strength, you know, strong if veritall, veritall. It made me 2:02:14.240 --> 2:02:16.920 feel like a dwarf, like a little boy. 2:02:17.160 --> 2:02:19.680 Yeah yeah, I was a little boy out there actually. 2:02:20.600 --> 2:02:24.040 Over his career, he started eighty of his eighty eight 2:02:24.160 --> 2:02:27.640 games that he played, helping the Patriots win two Super Bowls, 2:02:27.920 --> 2:02:30.480 super Bowl forty nine and Super Bowl fifty one. 2:02:30.960 --> 2:02:35.879 Born in Dosseldorf, Germany, Dolf dosl doof. 2:02:36.960 --> 2:02:42.040 Vohmer didn't start playing football until he was fourteen fourteen 2:02:43.320 --> 2:02:49.200 fourteen four yeah one four nine. After retiring in twenty sixteen, 2:02:49.280 --> 2:02:53.560 he became a booming NFL broadcaster in Germany, often acting 2:02:53.680 --> 2:02:57.840 as a Patriots ambassador off the field. He's known for 2:02:57.920 --> 2:03:01.280 his down to earth personality and delicatetion to promoting football 2:03:01.640 --> 2:03:04.560 in his home country and some fun facts real quick. 2:03:04.600 --> 2:03:08.120 Volmer was one a barbecue cookoff in his neighborhood. What 2:03:08.280 --> 2:03:09.320 a fun fact that is? 2:03:09.520 --> 2:03:12.960 Won a barbecue cookoff in his neighborhood. Ai man, Hey, 2:03:13.080 --> 2:03:14.840 I where did you pull that from? 2:03:14.960 --> 2:03:15.080 Oh? 2:03:15.160 --> 2:03:17.760 My he's an avid beekeeper. 2:03:17.920 --> 2:03:20.960 Oh my god, he's a beekeeper. He ate all his honey, 2:03:22.560 --> 2:03:23.440 He ate all his honey. 2:03:23.520 --> 2:03:25.800 So he's six eight, that is why six a and 2:03:26.080 --> 2:03:30.200 freaking tosses up weight like it's nothing, nothing, nothing, That's 2:03:30.240 --> 2:03:33.400 where I was going. And he once accidentally locked himself 2:03:33.680 --> 2:03:37.400 out of his own house while wearing only his underwear. 2:03:38.040 --> 2:03:40.000 That's on Ai, What the heck? 2:03:40.720 --> 2:03:44.360 I think I love Sebastian even more. That's a Sebastian 2:03:44.440 --> 2:03:47.040 type move though. That's a sea bass move right there. 2:03:47.160 --> 2:03:49.240 Oh my god, Seabach, Oh my god. 2:03:49.360 --> 2:03:50.360 He was so large. 2:03:50.440 --> 2:03:52.440 But he was so large and so strong he could 2:03:52.440 --> 2:03:54.840 have probably just lifted up his own house like you 2:03:54.920 --> 2:03:58.280 know Patrick on SpongeBob, how he just lifts up the 2:03:58.360 --> 2:03:59.680 rock in his house and goes And he should have 2:03:59.720 --> 2:04:01.120 just lift up his house like threw it up in 2:04:01.160 --> 2:04:02.560 the air real quick and then went under it, and 2:04:02.640 --> 2:04:04.000 then he would have been fine. 2:04:04.720 --> 2:04:05.160 He lit. 2:04:05.320 --> 2:04:07.240 We all used to live next to each other h 2:04:07.760 --> 2:04:10.200 in that street, Yeah, we did. He could definitely probably 2:04:10.240 --> 2:04:11.720 lift that house up. What was the name of that 2:04:11.800 --> 2:04:16.280 street again, was it Chay Lane? I was Shae Lane. 2:04:16.800 --> 2:04:19.120 I was at a bashroom with Shae Lane and then 2:04:19.480 --> 2:04:22.160 you were pacing, but you were like half half a 2:04:22.240 --> 2:04:23.720 mile if that away from us. 2:04:23.960 --> 2:04:25.920 Yeah, it was a bike right away. Yeah, bike ride 2:04:26.200 --> 2:04:28.840 freaking Sea Bass. We were drafting the same draft he was. 2:04:29.160 --> 2:04:32.080 He was such a big dude and he was he 2:04:32.240 --> 2:04:35.800 was always really smart, Like he always had really great 2:04:36.000 --> 2:04:42.400 questions to like Scarnako or Josh. I just remember him 2:04:42.440 --> 2:04:45.200 always being able to like, hey, coach, but what if 2:04:45.240 --> 2:04:48.160 this happens on this and we're in this? You know, 2:04:48.360 --> 2:04:51.960 like he had a really outgoing thought process of the 2:04:52.080 --> 2:04:55.480 game for someone who never grew up around the game 2:04:55.800 --> 2:04:58.800 m hm or like really or really knew the game. Yeah, 2:04:58.840 --> 2:05:01.200 he like, how do he's he was playing at fourteen. Yeah, 2:05:01.240 --> 2:05:03.760 you could start playing at fourteen, which is different than 2:05:03.840 --> 2:05:06.200 kids that start playing in fourteen here, but it was 2:05:06.360 --> 2:05:07.240 so natural here. 2:05:07.640 --> 2:05:10.440 Also, when he was playing at fourteen, it wasn't like 2:05:10.760 --> 2:05:13.240 real football. He was playing what league was that? The 2:05:13.320 --> 2:05:15.120 club it was, Yeah, it was like some type of 2:05:15.160 --> 2:05:18.840 club football. Wasn't the same rules, it wasn't the same schemes, 2:05:19.440 --> 2:05:22.080 none of that. I mean, there was some similarities of 2:05:22.240 --> 2:05:24.360 the league that he was playing in when he started 2:05:24.400 --> 2:05:26.960 playing football, but it was nothing like American football. 2:05:27.080 --> 2:05:27.680 I don't think so. 2:05:27.960 --> 2:05:30.640 So where he go to university, It was to Houston 2:05:31.400 --> 2:05:34.600 where he had a pretty solid career there. And then 2:05:35.080 --> 2:05:37.440 the way he got to the Patriots, I'm pretty sure, 2:05:37.640 --> 2:05:40.120 like the newing of Patriots, they were looking for an 2:05:40.200 --> 2:05:44.000 offensive tackle at the time, you know, to start for 2:05:44.440 --> 2:05:48.280 them or just about and uh yeah, And I'm pretty 2:05:48.320 --> 2:05:52.880 sure he played in the East West Game after being 2:05:53.200 --> 2:05:56.320 you know, in college at the University of Houston, and 2:05:56.440 --> 2:05:58.680 that's when he really got scouted by the Patriots. And 2:05:58.720 --> 2:06:01.760 I'm pretty sure the Patriots and Dante Scarnaccio one of 2:06:01.800 --> 2:06:04.960 the best offensive line coaches in the history history of 2:06:05.080 --> 2:06:07.760 the game, no doubt about that. I mean, he's the 2:06:07.880 --> 2:06:10.440 reason to a lot of our success in New England. 2:06:10.720 --> 2:06:14.320 And what's wild is like he's tiny, Like you know, 2:06:14.400 --> 2:06:18.280 offensive line coaches are usually offensive lineman beforehand, like Dante 2:06:18.360 --> 2:06:22.640 Scarnakia demanded a room. He was older, like seventy five 2:06:22.800 --> 2:06:26.120 seventies what five ten, one hundred and eighty pounds, and 2:06:26.240 --> 2:06:29.960 he just lined up his offensive lineman like a drill 2:06:30.040 --> 2:06:31.800 sergeant and just control. 2:06:31.400 --> 2:06:35.320 Them like unbelievable. I remember the first day of rookie camp, 2:06:36.520 --> 2:06:41.320 Scar yelling at Sea Bass saying something like, you guys, 2:06:41.520 --> 2:06:43.960 you fat pieces shit better start running. 2:06:45.200 --> 2:06:48.720 Well, you guys are out here bouncing around this league 2:06:48.880 --> 2:06:51.520 for five six years. I'm gonna you have to work 2:06:51.560 --> 2:06:54.400 at Walmart because I'm like, get fired for not getting 2:06:54.400 --> 2:06:55.480 you to be able to play. 2:06:56.240 --> 2:06:59.320 It's like the first day of Rookiotis. I'm like, oh 2:06:59.440 --> 2:07:01.560 my god, I don't know if he was going to 2:07:01.600 --> 2:07:03.160 Sea Bastard. I was like, that was my welcome to 2:07:03.200 --> 2:07:05.240 the NFL moment, Like holy shit. 2:07:05.520 --> 2:07:08.280 And then they scouted Sebastian. They had a workout with him. 2:07:08.320 --> 2:07:12.160 I mean I saw I think he did. He did 2:07:12.200 --> 2:07:14.040 his pro day and he put him through a workout 2:07:14.880 --> 2:07:19.680 and he said that, you know, Sebastian was smart. He 2:07:19.800 --> 2:07:22.360 did everything that he was told. He picked up on everything. 2:07:22.480 --> 2:07:24.280 He picked up on the schemes right of way. It's 2:07:24.360 --> 2:07:27.000 just showing how smart he was. And and then he 2:07:27.080 --> 2:07:33.040 also talked about how Sebastian learned the English language. 2:07:33.280 --> 2:07:36.240 How was that? And that was just watching American flicks, 2:07:36.680 --> 2:07:38.240 American TV, American TV. 2:07:39.160 --> 2:07:41.920 Man, I watched German TV, and my eyes are going 2:07:42.000 --> 2:07:46.800 to space faster than Michael Strahan went to space. This 2:07:46.960 --> 2:07:49.280 guy learned How's English? 2:07:49.400 --> 2:07:52.880 How did you learn English? Oh, just learned it just 2:07:53.080 --> 2:07:55.840 growing up, just did. I was around it a lot 2:07:56.520 --> 2:07:59.240 as a kid, being around my mom, my dad, my 2:07:59.320 --> 2:08:04.000 brother's friend. And who is your first word? Mama? Mama? 2:08:04.800 --> 2:08:07.880 But it was baba mama. I wonder what Sebastian's first 2:08:07.920 --> 2:08:10.320 word was, because it's not mama, that's English. Yeah, what 2:08:10.400 --> 2:08:13.200 do you think it was? It's probably like uh oma, 2:08:14.920 --> 2:08:19.080 ohma omah's grandma and like German. 2:08:19.840 --> 2:08:23.440 Oh. You want to know what Bill Belichick once said 2:08:23.840 --> 2:08:26.240 too about Sebastian Vollmer. What do you say is that 2:08:26.400 --> 2:08:30.640 when Sebastian would utter things underneath. 2:08:30.240 --> 2:08:32.560 His breath in German or something, yeah, in German. 2:08:33.200 --> 2:08:35.880 Yes, he knew that it was never good. 2:08:37.280 --> 2:08:39.360 He knew it was never good. That's a that's a 2:08:39.400 --> 2:08:43.120 great observation, Coach Belichick's. That's called scouting right there. 2:08:43.520 --> 2:08:49.280 Sebastian was athletic, great. Hey, I'm scouting Sebastian right now. Okay, 2:08:49.720 --> 2:08:52.400 I know you're getting excited. He's athletic, great size, he 2:08:52.520 --> 2:08:55.200 was light on his feet, He has thirty six to 2:08:55.320 --> 2:08:57.920 thirty eight inch arms, depending on the workout that he 2:08:58.040 --> 2:09:01.080 did that day. He's thick every where, dude. I'm telling you, 2:09:01.160 --> 2:09:07.560 he's thick, his CAFs, his squads, forearms, bice triiceps, abs. 2:09:07.560 --> 2:09:09.360 See like he's thick. It's like he almost had a 2:09:09.400 --> 2:09:11.040 six pack, but he didn't because he was so big. 2:09:11.360 --> 2:09:13.960 But he dick like thick boy man. 2:09:14.040 --> 2:09:16.720 But he wasn't like fat, No, he wasn't always Well 2:09:16.960 --> 2:09:19.880 now he's like a bodybuilder. He's shredded. He looks so 2:09:20.160 --> 2:09:22.040 good right now. It looks like a tight end. He 2:09:22.120 --> 2:09:24.200 looks like he Van dam was like six foot eight. 2:09:25.000 --> 2:09:27.320 He's that ripped right now. He's got good feet. He 2:09:27.360 --> 2:09:29.680 always had good feet. He was always on balance. 2:09:30.040 --> 2:09:33.760 I was working out with him, O'Brian's yeah, yeah, aps, yes, 2:09:33.840 --> 2:09:36.480 aps my going into my second year in the league 2:09:36.560 --> 2:09:39.120 during the lockout, at the NFL lockout, we would always 2:09:39.120 --> 2:09:41.440 be working out there. I just remember him working out 2:09:41.640 --> 2:09:44.240 and like I was just amazed how strong he was. 2:09:44.320 --> 2:09:48.240 He took one hundred and forty pound dumbbell, just went 2:09:48.320 --> 2:09:50.520 right on the bench, grab the other one just like this, 2:09:51.200 --> 2:09:54.200 that easy, and just started tossing it up for a 2:09:54.280 --> 2:09:57.320 set of ten, one hundred and forty pound dumbells for 2:09:57.360 --> 2:09:58.880 a set of ten, like it was nothing. 2:09:59.120 --> 2:10:02.440 The Gumans have particular beard that makes them very strong. 2:10:02.840 --> 2:10:05.600 Well, then let me keep drinking jewels because I want 2:10:05.680 --> 2:10:07.560 to be very strong like Sebastian. 2:10:07.640 --> 2:10:09.400 And if he was drinking beer to make him strong, 2:10:09.480 --> 2:10:12.280 I need another beer. Fill me up, please, I already 2:10:12.360 --> 2:10:14.560 had one. I want one more. I got you, well, 2:10:14.600 --> 2:10:15.200 you filled me up. 2:10:15.240 --> 2:10:17.760 How about the time when Coach Belichick put him out 2:10:17.800 --> 2:10:20.720 there and he's told Sebastian Vollmer, hey, if you catch 2:10:20.800 --> 2:10:21.240 his punt. 2:10:21.920 --> 2:10:25.200 He was dune for today, everyone's off practice. Hey, that's 2:10:25.280 --> 2:10:27.000 all meetings. What happened? What happened? 2:10:27.040 --> 2:10:27.920 What did Sebastian do? 2:10:29.080 --> 2:10:31.240 He caught a punt? He gave us training camp. That 2:10:31.360 --> 2:10:32.440 was early in our career. 2:10:32.880 --> 2:10:34.720 It was that was my I think my rookie year 2:10:34.840 --> 2:10:37.000 or my second year in the league. I think it 2:10:37.080 --> 2:10:39.600 was my second year. But that was great. See Bass, 2:10:39.640 --> 2:10:41.840 Thank you for coming through. I'll remember it, you know, 2:10:41.960 --> 2:10:43.400 for the rest of my life that you got me 2:10:43.480 --> 2:10:46.320 off meetings that night. Thank you, amen, because those meetings 2:10:46.360 --> 2:10:47.840 are way too long. 2:10:48.120 --> 2:10:50.120 His first start in two thousand and nine was the 2:10:50.960 --> 2:10:53.440 was that Tennessee Titans game where it snowed in like 2:10:53.560 --> 2:10:56.800 October fifteenth or something like that. He was replacing Matt 2:10:56.880 --> 2:10:58.960 Light who was starting. I think he got banged up. 2:10:59.040 --> 2:11:00.800 We didn't give up a sack like it was his 2:11:00.920 --> 2:11:05.560 first game in pressure was on young football player from 2:11:05.720 --> 2:11:10.120 Germany and helps give up zero sacks and we blew 2:11:10.200 --> 2:11:13.400 out the Tennessee Titans that like nothing. It was fifty 2:11:13.480 --> 2:11:13.960 nine nothing. 2:11:14.360 --> 2:11:16.400 You I know why you guys, you know won that 2:11:16.480 --> 2:11:18.560 game fifty nine nothing and why Tom threw like eight 2:11:18.680 --> 2:11:22.240 touchdown passes in the first quarter because he was very 2:11:22.640 --> 2:11:26.080 comfortable as Sebastian Volmer was his left tackle. 2:11:26.360 --> 2:11:29.080 He was comfortable. He was just like we were all comfortable. 2:11:29.640 --> 2:11:33.640 When Coach Belichick said, hey, Sebastian Volmer, if you catch 2:11:33.720 --> 2:11:36.520 this punt right here on this windy day at training camp, 2:11:36.600 --> 2:11:40.680 when we've been running you guys for fifteen straight days 2:11:41.120 --> 2:11:45.200 into the ground, not a day off, full pads twice 2:11:45.200 --> 2:11:47.120 a day. If you catch his punt, I'm gonna give 2:11:47.120 --> 2:11:49.840 you guys meetings off tonight, but we will have practice tomorrow. 2:11:49.880 --> 2:11:52.960 But you guys will have meetings off tonight. And what 2:11:53.040 --> 2:11:55.280 do you do. He caught the punt, We didn't have meetings. 2:11:55.400 --> 2:11:56.960 He caught the punt so I could go home and 2:11:57.080 --> 2:11:57.680 do this quick. 2:12:00.120 --> 2:12:01.600 We got to give him a little bit more credit 2:12:01.680 --> 2:12:03.800 in his broadcasting career because he has made a name 2:12:03.840 --> 2:12:06.680 for himself in the country of Germany because he's bringing 2:12:06.720 --> 2:12:10.800 the game and a lot of awareness of American football 2:12:10.880 --> 2:12:13.040 and bringing it over and he's doing a great job 2:12:13.120 --> 2:12:15.120 to translate it. I see a lot of things he 2:12:15.200 --> 2:12:20.120 translates English to uh Germany to help people in that 2:12:20.240 --> 2:12:22.600 country understand the game. So he's doing a great job 2:12:22.640 --> 2:12:24.760 expanding and have an unbelievable role like that. 2:12:24.880 --> 2:12:27.120 Without doubt, he's making the game bigger. He probably loves 2:12:27.160 --> 2:12:30.680 his home country. He does, and he loves football, and 2:12:31.480 --> 2:12:34.120 it's great for him to be able to share the 2:12:34.240 --> 2:12:37.120 game that he's loved with the people that where he's from. 2:12:37.320 --> 2:12:39.880 That's like some beautiful stuff. 2:12:40.400 --> 2:12:44.400 It's beautiful, like like Europe. It is beautiful like Poland. Actually, 2:12:44.480 --> 2:12:48.320 Poland's beautiful, and that's why, you know, Sebastian is so 2:12:48.440 --> 2:12:52.000 beautiful as well, because Poland's right near Germany. 2:12:52.280 --> 2:12:54.000 It might connect, but I don't think it does. 2:12:54.080 --> 2:12:57.000 I think they touch the touch. That's why we just 2:12:57.720 --> 2:13:00.000 just sympathize for each other. And we have so much 2:13:00.200 --> 2:13:03.440 connection because I'm a Pollock, he's German, and we just 2:13:04.160 --> 2:13:08.520 we just have that you know, tightness. We feel each other. 2:13:08.640 --> 2:13:11.720 We understand each other, and he's just a good guy. 2:13:12.160 --> 2:13:15.840 I'm a good guy, and I'm just gonna keep drinking 2:13:15.960 --> 2:13:18.520 and just keep getting emotional because I'm blacked out. 2:13:18.560 --> 2:13:23.920 It's a beer and a half jewels time. All right, 2:13:24.240 --> 2:13:27.280 all right? What is he? You are already? You're ady? 2:13:27.400 --> 2:13:29.880 I just broke out of ours. You're in it. I 2:13:30.000 --> 2:13:33.919 was in it. What kind of dude is Sebastian Bohmer? 2:13:34.280 --> 2:13:36.280 Is he? 2:13:36.520 --> 2:13:38.480 I mean, he is pretty studley if you think about it. 2:13:38.880 --> 2:13:40.960 A guy that came from he's probably one of the 2:13:41.080 --> 2:13:47.000 badass dudes from his country, never played our country's most 2:13:47.040 --> 2:13:52.360 famous sport, most popular sport, and comes in and becomes 2:13:53.040 --> 2:13:56.640 a fucking damn good football player. All right, on on three, 2:13:56.880 --> 2:13:58.880 you say what you think he is. I'll say what 2:13:58.960 --> 2:14:05.080 I think he is, all right, one? Two, three? Whiz, yeah, baby, 2:14:05.240 --> 2:14:08.600 give me some, give me some. Obviously, probably we know him, 2:14:08.840 --> 2:14:10.440 we played with them, so we're gonna be on the 2:14:10.480 --> 2:14:13.200 same page of what he is. I mean, he's definitely 2:14:13.240 --> 2:14:15.720 a whiz if you think about it, to be able 2:14:15.800 --> 2:14:20.040 to come out out of high school from Germany, to 2:14:20.200 --> 2:14:24.879 go to a university in America and play American football, 2:14:25.040 --> 2:14:28.520 learn the language, through TV be as smart as he 2:14:28.720 --> 2:14:32.280 was on the field. You never saw emmy from Sebastian 2:14:32.320 --> 2:14:35.960 Bohmer Like he's for sure a whiz clutch catching the 2:14:36.000 --> 2:14:39.560 punt for us to get us the night off of meetings, 2:14:40.200 --> 2:14:43.240 like he was the guy. He's a whiz for sure. 2:14:43.880 --> 2:14:47.720 You said it all, Jules, he said it all. Here's 2:14:47.760 --> 2:14:49.000 a whiz guy. 2:14:49.080 --> 2:14:51.280 Smiders can be picked up the scheme stop one of 2:14:51.320 --> 2:14:53.680 the hardest blocking schemes and all football. 2:14:54.880 --> 2:14:57.080 Just like that. I think he picked up English better 2:14:57.120 --> 2:14:59.640 than you and I speak it. No, he sure has, 2:15:01.200 --> 2:15:03.200 and if you ask him he would agree that. He 2:15:03.320 --> 2:15:08.400 definitely would. I love him too, But they cuckoo, cuckoo. 2:15:09.040 --> 2:15:12.920 That's what he was say. Is everybody casey, I love them, 2:15:13.760 --> 2:15:18.040 I love them. Oh we love you. Bathroom. All right, 2:15:18.080 --> 2:15:23.840 let's get into our our last Halloween edition of New 2:15:24.000 --> 2:15:32.800 Tonguans guy that we are going to talk about. You 2:15:32.920 --> 2:15:36.480 know what, I'm looking at this and it's pretty gnarly 2:15:37.080 --> 2:15:42.920 m that everyone of the scariest guys that we're going 2:15:43.000 --> 2:15:50.320 over is from the AFC. Fucking North, another Kent State 2:15:50.520 --> 2:15:56.120 golden flash. Another man that scares the living ship out 2:15:56.160 --> 2:16:02.240 of you. He sure does. His name is Debo, but 2:16:02.400 --> 2:16:05.480 his birth name is James Harrison. 2:16:05.920 --> 2:16:08.240 James Henry Harrison Junior Hank. 2:16:09.000 --> 2:16:10.880 I will not call him that to his face. He'll 2:16:13.120 --> 2:16:15.640 I've seen him doing that volleyball ship. What is up? 2:16:16.200 --> 2:16:18.960 What's you a A? I asked to say, alright, AI 2:16:19.520 --> 2:16:23.880 for James Hank, I was probably too scared the second 2:16:24.400 --> 2:16:28.440 Holy smokes, Oh that's blank A. I was scared. AI 2:16:28.600 --> 2:16:30.480 is fucking scared. I'm scared. Did not want to get 2:16:30.480 --> 2:16:32.000 it wrong. Start the claw. 2:16:33.520 --> 2:16:38.560 Now now, James Harrison. James Harrison was a tenicious and 2:16:38.640 --> 2:16:42.280 a hard hitting linebacker. Tenacious, thank you, Joe, got you. 2:16:42.720 --> 2:16:43.280 I'm Harry. 2:16:43.320 --> 2:16:45.240 You know I didn't read any bucks growing up, okay, 2:16:45.879 --> 2:16:50.040 you know? And a hard hitting linebacker now for his 2:16:50.200 --> 2:16:53.960 relentless work ethic and physical style of play. Off the field, 2:16:54.000 --> 2:16:58.280 he was dedicated and resilient, overcoming numerous setbacks to achieve success. 2:16:59.040 --> 2:17:03.040 Harrison had a significant impact on the Pittsburgh Steeers on 2:17:03.160 --> 2:17:06.000 the Pittsburgh Steelers, helping them win two Super Bowls and 2:17:06.080 --> 2:17:08.960 earning the NFL Defensive Player of the Year award in 2:17:09.080 --> 2:17:13.160 two thousand and eight Jesus. Notably, He's set a then 2:17:13.240 --> 2:17:16.880 Steelers single season record with sixteen sacks in two thousand 2:17:16.879 --> 2:17:19.960 and eight and is the only undrafted player to win 2:17:20.080 --> 2:17:22.880 Defensive Player of the Year award. He was also a 2:17:23.000 --> 2:17:27.680 five time Pro Bowler and twice named the Steelers MVP. 2:17:29.200 --> 2:17:30.760 He should have been a Super Bowl MVP. 2:17:31.800 --> 2:17:37.440 Yeah, but Santonio home tapping catch and the game. They 2:17:37.480 --> 2:17:40.520 should give out like two MVP's award, a defensive MVP 2:17:40.840 --> 2:17:43.360 if deserved, and then an MVP award as well, or 2:17:43.360 --> 2:17:45.760 an MVP award. And if it was a defensive guy, 2:17:45.959 --> 2:17:48.240 then if someone played on the offensive side, you know, 2:17:48.840 --> 2:17:50.600 on the offense side of the ball, very well, they 2:17:50.680 --> 2:17:51.439 should also. 2:17:51.320 --> 2:17:54.160 Have the offensive MVP. You know what I mean? You 2:17:54.200 --> 2:17:56.400 know what I'm saying by that. Yeah, they can get 2:17:56.440 --> 2:17:58.440 they can get a better sponsorship group out of the 2:17:58.560 --> 2:18:00.960 NFL too. If they did that, you could have you know, 2:18:01.160 --> 2:18:05.960 Chevy for you know, the offense and forward for the defense. Ah, 2:18:06.600 --> 2:18:12.720 we're not business guys. Debo. Hey, Lyd, you're smarter than 2:18:12.760 --> 2:18:20.680 I thought. Carry Your hands are freezing. James Harrison absolute 2:18:21.200 --> 2:18:24.680 scary motherfucker. Like he's look at him. You look at 2:18:24.720 --> 2:18:28.240 his pictures. It's like one degree outside. He's got his 2:18:28.400 --> 2:18:31.080 shirt off and his baggy ass sweats doing a pregame 2:18:31.160 --> 2:18:34.760 warm up, looking like he wants to just I fucking 2:18:34.920 --> 2:18:38.840 kill every single person on the other side of the team. 2:18:39.320 --> 2:18:43.080 Like we played against him and he's got a notion 2:18:43.640 --> 2:18:46.760 and it's so fucking crazy that he didn't get drafted 2:18:47.320 --> 2:18:52.000 because he's about six feet tall, but he's also six 2:18:52.120 --> 2:18:56.480 feet wide. This guy is a fucking fridge his I've 2:18:56.560 --> 2:19:01.960 never his arms are literally like thirty inches big. I 2:19:02.000 --> 2:19:05.040 remember he came and played with us in seventeen. It 2:19:05.160 --> 2:19:08.200 literally when he would walk in the locker room, it 2:19:08.280 --> 2:19:12.240 felt like the scene in Friday when Deebo would roll. 2:19:12.320 --> 2:19:14.640 Everyone would put their chains away, and he was like 2:19:14.879 --> 2:19:18.360 a nice guy, but he just had that scary great guy, 2:19:18.640 --> 2:19:21.360 scary aorr about him. We're like, no, hey, oh shit, 2:19:21.480 --> 2:19:23.400 what's up. No one wanted to joke with him because 2:19:23.400 --> 2:19:25.320 he didn't know if he was gonna take it or 2:19:25.400 --> 2:19:27.920 if he could be joked with. But he was honestly 2:19:28.000 --> 2:19:30.680 a great teammate for that one year, and he's made 2:19:30.800 --> 2:19:34.920 so many incredible fucking plays in his career, Like it's insane. 2:19:35.400 --> 2:19:38.040 Have you seen him do the shot put? Nah? I 2:19:38.120 --> 2:19:40.720 never seen. He's I guess he's a huge fucking shotputter, 2:19:41.080 --> 2:19:44.760 Like he's a fuck. I love him. I absolutely loved him. 2:19:44.760 --> 2:19:46.920 I remember when he played that game in two thousand 2:19:46.920 --> 2:19:49.040 and eight. I was at Kent State the super Bowl 2:19:49.040 --> 2:19:51.080 where he had that big hundred yard run in the 2:19:51.160 --> 2:19:53.760 super Bowl, and I was just so excited to see 2:19:53.800 --> 2:19:58.040 a guy like him, you know, dominating the NFL from 2:19:58.120 --> 2:20:02.199 where I came from. I mean, it was It's crazy. 2:20:03.040 --> 2:20:11.360 Was Primes James Harrison faster than you? Yes? 2:20:12.600 --> 2:20:12.760 Was he? 2:20:13.040 --> 2:20:14.920 Yes? I'm not going to say he wasn't. 2:20:17.280 --> 2:20:18.840 To think about that. And I was like, wait, if 2:20:18.879 --> 2:20:20.520 I am faster than him, I should not say I 2:20:20.600 --> 2:20:24.119 was faster. It's like that's like me saying I'm stronger 2:20:24.200 --> 2:20:26.960 than him as well, which obviously I am not stronger 2:20:27.040 --> 2:20:27.840 than James Harrison. 2:20:27.840 --> 2:20:28.800 I don't think anyone is. 2:20:28.920 --> 2:20:31.200 But I'm going to talk a little football, you know, 2:20:31.280 --> 2:20:34.320 a little technician on the football field here. I mean 2:20:34.959 --> 2:20:37.400 in the blocking aspect of the game and who you're 2:20:37.440 --> 2:20:39.480 going versus, what type of guy you're going verse, what 2:20:39.600 --> 2:20:42.080 type of player you're going verse, who you're going verse, 2:20:42.120 --> 2:20:44.840 Because in the NFL, you scout the player you're going verse, 2:20:44.879 --> 2:20:47.320 you scot him. You see what type of player they are. 2:20:47.640 --> 2:20:50.880 You see how they react to you know, the type 2:20:50.920 --> 2:20:53.440 of blocks that they're receiving and all that good stuff. 2:20:53.480 --> 2:20:56.480 In what size he is, what height the defender is 2:20:56.560 --> 2:20:58.560 that you're going verse, You get in his chest, you 2:20:58.680 --> 2:21:02.039 throw your shoulder, so many different techniques depending on who 2:21:02.120 --> 2:21:04.959 you're going verse. And I love blocking a guy that's 2:21:05.040 --> 2:21:08.640 like six ' five my height who stands up, because 2:21:08.640 --> 2:21:11.160 then I can get in his chest driving backwards. And 2:21:11.320 --> 2:21:15.040 a guy that doesn't have that mean look, that mean attitude, 2:21:15.440 --> 2:21:17.120 and a guy that's not going to get pissed off 2:21:17.160 --> 2:21:20.040 because I came flying off the ball and absolutely drilled 2:21:20.080 --> 2:21:22.480 him and drove him back five yards and embarrass him. 2:21:22.720 --> 2:21:24.960 That was the last thing I was trying to do 2:21:25.280 --> 2:21:26.199 with James Harrison. 2:21:26.240 --> 2:21:27.199 Well, we're trying to do James. 2:21:27.320 --> 2:21:29.760 First off, with James, I knew I couldn't get into 2:21:29.800 --> 2:21:32.240 his chest. The guy is like a bowling ball, Like 2:21:32.320 --> 2:21:34.880 you know that twenty eight pound bowling ball that everyone 2:21:34.959 --> 2:21:37.760 wants to throw down the freaking lane and just trying 2:21:37.760 --> 2:21:39.879 to knock down all the pins and like you kind 2:21:39.920 --> 2:21:41.160 of like do a granny. 2:21:40.840 --> 2:21:43.039 Style and so heavy you blow out your back. 2:21:43.120 --> 2:21:45.440 Well, those are the hardest guys to block in the NFL, 2:21:45.800 --> 2:21:48.720 especially at my size six foot six, you know, it's 2:21:48.760 --> 2:21:50.600 hard for me to get low. It's hard for me 2:21:50.720 --> 2:21:52.400 to move that type of guy because they have so 2:21:52.560 --> 2:21:55.600 much leverage built in pad level. Yes, exactly, that's what 2:21:55.720 --> 2:21:57.960 he has. And with a guy like that and how 2:21:58.080 --> 2:22:00.680 scary and intimidating he was, and I see it on film, 2:22:00.760 --> 2:22:03.760 you do not want to piss James Harrison on why 2:22:03.879 --> 2:22:05.120 what did you see on Yes? 2:22:05.480 --> 2:22:07.040 What do you see on film? What do you mean? 2:22:07.120 --> 2:22:08.039 What do you see on film? 2:22:08.080 --> 2:22:11.400 I seen him take defenders, offensive lineman, toss him. I 2:22:11.560 --> 2:22:15.400 seen him absolutely level defenders and put him out of 2:22:15.440 --> 2:22:16.640 the game with a concussion. 2:22:16.800 --> 2:22:19.080 Dude, he knocked out Josh Cribas, one of his teammates 2:22:19.120 --> 2:22:21.480 from college, but literally knock his ass out. 2:22:21.520 --> 2:22:24.120 So therefore, when I'm blocking him, it's a guy that 2:22:24.200 --> 2:22:25.560 you just kind of want to get in his way. 2:22:25.720 --> 2:22:27.360 I'm not going to come off the ball and crush 2:22:27.400 --> 2:22:29.320 his skull. I'm not trying to do that because if 2:22:29.360 --> 2:22:31.200 I piss him off, you know, if I hit him 2:22:31.240 --> 2:22:33.160 hired and I trigger him, man, I'm gonna tell you 2:22:33.200 --> 2:22:35.000 he's gonna pick me up and throw me the next place. 2:22:35.040 --> 2:22:37.120 So I never wanted to trigger him. I always just 2:22:37.160 --> 2:22:39.800 try to get in his way, you know, with my shoulder, 2:22:39.920 --> 2:22:42.080 with my hands. So then when the running back came 2:22:42.160 --> 2:22:43.440 around and you try to make a play, you know, 2:22:43.560 --> 2:22:45.160 just get in his way again, you know, so he. 2:22:45.200 --> 2:22:46.360 Could you feel his strength. 2:22:46.440 --> 2:22:48.240 I could feel his strength, because then if I started 2:22:48.280 --> 2:22:51.760 going strength for strength, that's when I lose, no doubt 2:22:51.760 --> 2:22:54.080 about it, that's when I lose the block versus a 2:22:54.120 --> 2:22:56.280 guy like that and leverage. So every time I just 2:22:56.400 --> 2:22:59.360 try to just kind of play paddy kick, you know, 2:22:59.520 --> 2:23:02.000 try to let him absorb me. So if I did 2:23:02.080 --> 2:23:03.880 fly off the ball, he would fly off the ball too, 2:23:03.879 --> 2:23:05.440 and then I would go backwards and he would have 2:23:05.520 --> 2:23:07.760 that separation pass. So I just try to stick on 2:23:07.959 --> 2:23:10.520 him like a like a sponge, you know. Uh, And 2:23:10.920 --> 2:23:14.320 just always didn't let him out of my rear view mirror, 2:23:14.520 --> 2:23:16.880 just always staying in front of him, never trying to 2:23:16.959 --> 2:23:19.119 piss them off, never trying to give him a cheap shot. 2:23:19.400 --> 2:23:22.040 That was the way I blocked James Harrison, And it 2:23:22.160 --> 2:23:23.960 was a whole different style when you go versus a 2:23:24.000 --> 2:23:24.720 player like him. 2:23:25.040 --> 2:23:29.520 That's crazy. See we're here talking about like Rob's Rob 2:23:29.680 --> 2:23:32.600 used to block the biggest battest to on the defensive line. 2:23:33.240 --> 2:23:36.720 That's fucking nuts. You know, it's rarely seen, you know, 2:23:36.840 --> 2:23:40.600 a matchup with the tight end and the nine technique 2:23:40.680 --> 2:23:43.120 fucking d end or what you know, the outside linebacker 2:23:43.200 --> 2:23:46.600 that's playing down like that doesn't that's usually at the 2:23:46.640 --> 2:23:49.000 point of attack a lot of times, is it. Do 2:23:49.040 --> 2:23:49.760 you watch that film? 2:23:49.879 --> 2:23:51.680 Yeah, you always want to get the tackle on those guys. 2:23:51.720 --> 2:23:54.000 But when you have a tight end in that situation 2:23:54.200 --> 2:23:56.200 that's willing to do it, willing to get there to 2:23:56.280 --> 2:23:59.680 the that's what expands your offense. That expands the run game, 2:23:59.720 --> 2:24:02.200 that's what expands the play action game as well. And 2:24:02.560 --> 2:24:04.600 I kind of use that to my advantage and that's 2:24:04.640 --> 2:24:06.720 actually what helped me get open plenty of time on 2:24:06.800 --> 2:24:09.480 the play actions when the linebacker step up because they thought, 2:24:09.680 --> 2:24:12.320 you know, I'm coming out the block. But James Harrison 2:24:12.440 --> 2:24:16.240 was a terrifying pocket pressure player. He got so low 2:24:16.920 --> 2:24:19.280 his shoulder like, yeah, he would have that shoulder dip 2:24:19.320 --> 2:24:21.199 and he would just get right off of the tackle, 2:24:21.240 --> 2:24:24.000 even though the offensive tackles twice his size, kind of 2:24:24.040 --> 2:24:25.279 like it looks like twice his hype. 2:24:25.120 --> 2:24:26.680 But he would get right underneath him. And he was 2:24:26.720 --> 2:24:27.200 so strong. 2:24:27.400 --> 2:24:29.560 He would just rip through right through his arm and 2:24:29.640 --> 2:24:31.720 then get to the quarterback. And he was quick enough 2:24:31.920 --> 2:24:34.840 to take kind of an outside angle. Run the hump, Yeah, 2:24:34.959 --> 2:24:36.960 run the hump, and then bolt right to the court. 2:24:37.080 --> 2:24:39.560 Also would have a great change up where he would 2:24:39.640 --> 2:24:41.800 just use his strength. He get right up in that 2:24:42.000 --> 2:24:44.600 chest of that guy who's about eight inches taller than them, 2:24:44.879 --> 2:24:47.440 and push his ass right back into the pocket and 2:24:47.680 --> 2:24:48.720 blow up the quarterback. 2:24:48.840 --> 2:24:51.080 And that's the exact leverage I was talking about. And 2:24:51.200 --> 2:24:52.960 that's why I didn't go toe to toe with him 2:24:53.040 --> 2:24:54.760 right off the line, because he would get that leverage 2:24:54.760 --> 2:24:56.640 and he push me back. So I would just try 2:24:56.720 --> 2:24:58.800 to stay on him and not let him get that 2:24:59.120 --> 2:25:01.880 force to you know, to be able to push me back. 2:25:01.959 --> 2:25:03.119 So just being a smart player. 2:25:03.200 --> 2:25:04.520 Have you seen his workout videos. 2:25:04.600 --> 2:25:08.200 His workout videos are freaking ridiculous. He has like eight 2:25:08.320 --> 2:25:10.960 forty fives on each side when he's freaking benching like 2:25:11.280 --> 2:25:14.600 five hundred, like fifty five und you see it does 2:25:14.600 --> 2:25:15.439 It's just ridiculous. 2:25:15.480 --> 2:25:19.520 His conditioning, he gets like a thirty pound or a 2:25:19.680 --> 2:25:23.360 forty pound medicine ball and he plays volleyball with it 2:25:23.400 --> 2:25:25.039 where you have to catch it in the house, saying 2:25:25.080 --> 2:25:29.320 that that that's hard. People don't realize that's hard. That's heavyweight. 2:25:29.400 --> 2:25:32.480 And he does it for a long round. Like it's 2:25:32.560 --> 2:25:35.200 so fun to watch his workouts because he does like 2:25:35.320 --> 2:25:37.800 some world's strongest man shit all the time, or like 2:25:37.879 --> 2:25:40.640 you have like a boulder he's pushing, or he's fucking 2:25:41.080 --> 2:25:44.800 pulling a goddamn car or throwing fucking rocks that are 2:25:44.879 --> 2:25:48.160 like nine hundred pounds. Like he's just a he's a 2:25:48.280 --> 2:25:51.680 cool dude man. And the one thing about it, the 2:25:51.800 --> 2:25:56.480 one thing would you agree, does his voice not match 2:25:56.560 --> 2:25:59.480 his body? I think it does match his boy it does. 2:26:00.040 --> 2:26:02.200 I don't think it's like a low scary voice. It's 2:26:02.280 --> 2:26:04.600 not as low as you expect. Yeah, so I don't 2:26:04.600 --> 2:26:06.800 think it like you would think with that guy. He's like, 2:26:07.280 --> 2:26:10.520 are you doing you? Yeah, you're expecting that low. It's 2:26:10.600 --> 2:26:13.200 kind of it's not high though, No, it's not high. 2:26:13.240 --> 2:26:14.920 It's kind of a James. I'm not saying you have 2:26:14.959 --> 2:26:16.800 a high but which is kind of good because imagine 2:26:16.800 --> 2:26:21.520 if it was that low, it would be like even scarier. Yeah, 2:26:21.920 --> 2:26:25.400 Like I remember, remember he remember he gave it. I 2:26:25.480 --> 2:26:27.640 got one of his shirts. Remember, he had the Deebo 2:26:27.760 --> 2:26:30.800 shirt in the locker room. I still have the Deebo's 2:26:30.959 --> 2:26:35.480 shirt somewhere here. He's he's like he can lift like whatever, 2:26:35.560 --> 2:26:38.120 six hundred pounds. Ben squat that lift. 2:26:38.680 --> 2:26:41.120 But what I love about him is that he always 2:26:41.200 --> 2:26:45.240 posts his regime of you know, recovering, of how he 2:26:45.360 --> 2:26:47.600 recovers off of those lists how he was recovering in 2:26:47.640 --> 2:26:51.080 the NFL, and he would put like three hundred and 2:26:51.240 --> 2:26:55.920 fifty acupuncture needles and every day, like every other day, 2:26:55.920 --> 2:26:59.560 and he posts about it like you gotta be a freak. 2:27:00.040 --> 2:27:02.680 You gotta be intense in order to get three hundred 2:27:02.720 --> 2:27:06.200 and fifty needles poked inside of your muscle tissue and 2:27:06.360 --> 2:27:10.120 just take it like an absolute champ. Like that just 2:27:10.200 --> 2:27:13.680 shows he that just shows like he's dedicated, like he's 2:27:13.760 --> 2:27:16.720 doing whatever it takes to be at that level that 2:27:16.800 --> 2:27:17.640 he needs to be at. 2:27:17.720 --> 2:27:20.080 Who is the mount Rushmore? Of the strongest guys we 2:27:20.200 --> 2:27:21.240 played with, you think. 2:27:21.720 --> 2:27:26.200 I would say Sebastian Volmer left tackle was Vince Wilfork. 2:27:26.240 --> 2:27:28.680 He was super strong, strong, He didn't really have to 2:27:28.760 --> 2:27:30.760 even like work out that much. He would just walk 2:27:30.760 --> 2:27:32.760 in the weight room and toss up like five hundred 2:27:32.760 --> 2:27:33.520 pounds in the bench. 2:27:34.000 --> 2:27:38.039 Yeah, Marcus Cannon was a strong guy. Saw the squatting world. 2:27:38.240 --> 2:27:41.840 I never I remember. Canon would be squatting and there'd 2:27:41.879 --> 2:27:45.760 be fifteen fucking forty five and the thing would be bouncing. 2:27:46.879 --> 2:27:49.080 I swear I think he had like twelve forty five's 2:27:49.120 --> 2:27:51.040 on each side, remember that, And now the bar would 2:27:51.080 --> 2:27:54.600 be it'd be bouncing like it was a fucking cute 2:27:54.640 --> 2:27:59.760 tip with fucking rocks on. It's like it was. 2:28:01.800 --> 2:28:03.200 That was good inmitation right there. 2:28:03.440 --> 2:28:07.640 And then Brandon Bolden for pound for pound. Bolden didn't 2:28:07.640 --> 2:28:09.800 even work out. He was like, but he pound for 2:28:09.879 --> 2:28:12.119 pound when we do all those Like my gosh. 2:28:12.000 --> 2:28:13.600 I wasn't saying like that was a bad thing, that 2:28:13.640 --> 2:28:15.680 work out. He didn't need to work out. And I'm like, dude, 2:28:15.680 --> 2:28:17.920 how are you so strong? And rip He's like, yo, 2:28:18.040 --> 2:28:21.480 I carry my kids around and I'm like, I'm like, dang, 2:28:21.480 --> 2:28:24.880 I gotta start having kids. I gotta start having kids. 2:28:25.080 --> 2:28:27.440 And I still haven't started. And this is eight years later. 2:28:27.520 --> 2:28:29.800 What I would still be playing if I attend kids. 2:28:30.640 --> 2:28:32.520 He would always do those. Remember we'd always have to 2:28:32.520 --> 2:28:37.359 do those explosion recordings for some certain things like the Kaisers, 2:28:37.840 --> 2:28:40.920 and he would always be the absolute He blow people 2:28:40.959 --> 2:28:43.240 out by a thousand points because he was just so 2:28:43.440 --> 2:28:46.920 explosive strong. I'd say that's probably our Mount Rushmore. Yes, 2:28:47.200 --> 2:28:50.960 his last Kent State game, you know, he sacked five 2:28:51.120 --> 2:28:57.000 times Miami of Ohio. Oh big Ben his fucking teammate, 2:28:57.360 --> 2:29:01.480 and no one's off limits, No one is off limits. 2:29:02.040 --> 2:29:03.640 We saw what he did to Josh Cribs when he 2:29:03.720 --> 2:29:05.720 was in a Browns uniform. We saw what he did 2:29:05.800 --> 2:29:09.200 to Ben Roethlisberger when he was in a Miami with 2:29:09.240 --> 2:29:13.280 Ohio uniform. Like he is fucking Freddy Krueger bro This 2:29:13.440 --> 2:29:15.320 is how I mean, this is the perfect guy to 2:29:15.400 --> 2:29:17.119 have on the goddamn Halloween episode. 2:29:17.200 --> 2:29:19.520 You know. Yeah, we're talking about his you know, defensive 2:29:19.520 --> 2:29:22.320 skill set and all that, but what about every time 2:29:22.440 --> 2:29:25.160 he had an interception he always almost like brought that 2:29:25.320 --> 2:29:27.240 ball back to the house. Obviously with one of the 2:29:27.280 --> 2:29:29.480 biggest Super Bowl plays in history of the one hundred 2:29:29.560 --> 2:29:32.600 yard return versus Arizona Cardinals. And if they scored right 2:29:32.640 --> 2:29:34.720 on that drive, they were saying the game was going 2:29:34.800 --> 2:29:37.280 to be over going into half because the Cardinos had 2:29:37.360 --> 2:29:37.920 that big of a. 2:29:37.959 --> 2:29:39.920 New manager and that much momentum going in. 2:29:40.080 --> 2:29:43.959 But he saved the Steelers that game with that interception 2:29:44.080 --> 2:29:45.520 to the house. It looked like he was about to 2:29:45.560 --> 2:29:48.119 be tackled eight different times, and he just kept going 2:29:48.200 --> 2:29:50.480 and kept going and kept going. He's kind of like 2:29:50.640 --> 2:29:55.959 a fullback mixed with a running back when he's running 2:29:56.000 --> 2:29:58.640 the ball. Think Mike Golsta, Yes, exactly like him. 2:29:58.680 --> 2:30:00.920 He's Mike allstart of the for the side of the ball. 2:30:01.080 --> 2:30:03.440 Did you hear that he's Is he gonna be fighting 2:30:03.480 --> 2:30:04.200 o Jo Cinco? 2:30:04.360 --> 2:30:10.600 He was, Yeah, o Jo Cinkoo First, James Harrison, what 2:30:10.760 --> 2:30:12.280 are you thinking, o Jo Cinko? 2:30:13.440 --> 2:30:17.960 What the Ojo are you thinking? I'll tell you right now. 2:30:18.040 --> 2:30:19.520 O Jo Cinko has got some ball. 2:30:19.800 --> 2:30:20.800 He does have a ball. 2:30:21.480 --> 2:30:24.680 He raced a horse. He's fought a couple of times. 2:30:25.680 --> 2:30:27.960 I mean he's lost all the fights, so has he? 2:30:28.120 --> 2:30:29.960 Yeah, he lost the fight he bought one time. 2:30:30.320 --> 2:30:32.280 To be said about a man that loses a fight 2:30:32.360 --> 2:30:35.960 and keeps coming back. He keeps coming back. Oh, Joe Senko, 2:30:36.000 --> 2:30:38.000 don't back down. He does it now, he doesn't. What 2:30:38.640 --> 2:30:41.000 is he thinking? What is he thinking? I don't is 2:30:41.080 --> 2:30:45.160 it it's UFC right, it's in May style? Yeah, I 2:30:45.240 --> 2:30:47.560 mean the only way you would have to fight James 2:30:47.600 --> 2:30:49.879 Harrison is you can box him. If he couldn't bring 2:30:49.959 --> 2:30:50.240 you down. 2:30:50.360 --> 2:30:52.760 O Jo Cinko is six to one, one hundred and 2:30:52.840 --> 2:30:54.560 ninety pounds about I would say. 2:30:54.600 --> 2:30:55.000 He's got it. 2:30:55.080 --> 2:30:57.920 He's probably like, yeah, he lost a Brian Maxwell in 2:30:57.959 --> 2:30:59.000 a boxing match. 2:30:59.320 --> 2:31:01.640 He yeah, it wasn't. I'm not saying they probably beat 2:31:01.680 --> 2:31:03.800 the ship out of me, but I'm not fucking James Harrison. 2:31:05.160 --> 2:31:07.360 James Harrison is a scary man. 2:31:07.520 --> 2:31:10.280 Should we go, we should go? I gotta, I gotta 2:31:10.360 --> 2:31:13.960 what if scenario? Do you think we can beat James 2:31:14.000 --> 2:31:17.600 Harrison if we tag team versus if. 2:31:17.959 --> 2:31:20.360 You mean if we tag team James Harrison? No, No, 2:31:20.600 --> 2:31:26.520 like you and I versus James Harrison. Uh, I don't. Honestly, 2:31:26.600 --> 2:31:29.760 I really don't know. And I can center myself a 2:31:29.840 --> 2:31:34.160 tough guy, but and I consider you a large tough 2:31:34.280 --> 2:31:36.520 human as well. We would have to game plan. We'd 2:31:36.600 --> 2:31:38.480 have to. You have to game plan because you know, 2:31:38.560 --> 2:31:41.200 the Steelers do what they do. They do do they 2:31:41.240 --> 2:31:43.240 what they do, They do what they do, they do 2:31:43.320 --> 2:31:45.440 what they do, they do it very well. But they 2:31:45.480 --> 2:31:47.520 do what they do what they do, and they don't adjust. 2:31:47.640 --> 2:31:49.600 They don't adjust you what they do, and they do. 2:31:49.959 --> 2:31:53.600 We'd have to play James Harrison for that fight time, 2:31:54.240 --> 2:31:56.680 all right, But what kind of dude is James Harrison? Okay? 2:31:56.720 --> 2:31:58.800 I have I have two that I think he is. 2:31:59.440 --> 2:32:01.480 You know, I don't think he's a dude's dude, no one's. 2:32:01.920 --> 2:32:04.440 I played with him and he was kind of a 2:32:04.520 --> 2:32:06.160 dude's dude. But I was too scared of him the 2:32:06.200 --> 2:32:08.200 whole time for him to me think that he was 2:32:08.240 --> 2:32:12.200 a dude's dude. The freak he's I mean, he's either 2:32:12.280 --> 2:32:14.880 a freak or dog to me, you know it. And 2:32:15.160 --> 2:32:17.320 I think it's a crazy thing that if he's a freak, 2:32:17.400 --> 2:32:19.959 that he was an undrafted freak, that's probably a stat 2:32:20.040 --> 2:32:23.560 that will never say again. And that's freaky. 2:32:23.760 --> 2:32:26.039 I mean he is a freak for sure. I would 2:32:26.080 --> 2:32:27.160 not disagree with a freaking. 2:32:27.280 --> 2:32:28.120 He has dog in him. 2:32:28.120 --> 2:32:30.680 There's no doubt he's a relentless dog. He's a dog 2:32:30.800 --> 2:32:33.039 that's a pit bull. He's just never going to stop. 2:32:33.120 --> 2:32:35.560 It's the pit bull that's John trained, Yeah, that has 2:32:35.600 --> 2:32:38.440 the locked daw and just never letting go until that 2:32:38.640 --> 2:32:41.400 yaw finally gets tired after Like you gotta put him down. 2:32:41.440 --> 2:32:43.280 I think to put him down, basically, you got to 2:32:43.360 --> 2:32:46.080 kill him. But he's also freak with that interception and 2:32:46.360 --> 2:32:49.680 the stride. His stride when he's running, yeah, is ridiculous. 2:32:49.720 --> 2:32:51.520 I mean, it's freaky to have a stride like that 2:32:51.680 --> 2:32:54.160 at that size, with that much mass, and to be 2:32:54.240 --> 2:32:57.800 able to run like that, that's freaky. That's freaky. 2:32:57.920 --> 2:33:01.800 Tangibles, dude, No one. They say he's six foot, the 2:33:01.879 --> 2:33:04.600 dude's five to eleven. He maybe five to ten. He 2:33:04.720 --> 2:33:07.720 bout my height and he's two sixty and he runs 2:33:07.879 --> 2:33:10.280 just as fast as me. Okay, if you want to 2:33:10.320 --> 2:33:13.560 call that not a freak, you're fucking crazy. Yeah, you 2:33:13.680 --> 2:33:15.720 are crazy. Then he a freak. Freak. 2:33:15.840 --> 2:33:19.400 He's a freak. James Harrison freak stamp it. 2:33:20.040 --> 2:33:21.560 What does AI have to say? 2:33:21.920 --> 2:33:25.440 This dude was born on January ninth, nineteen seventy eight, 2:33:25.800 --> 2:33:29.080 and stands at six foot one and weighs one hundred 2:33:29.080 --> 2:33:31.440 and ninety two pounds. He was drafted as a wide 2:33:31.480 --> 2:33:33.600 receiver in the second round of the two thousand and 2:33:33.720 --> 2:33:38.640 one NFL Draft and played wide receiver for the Bengals, Patriots, Dolphins, and. 2:33:38.720 --> 2:33:41.119 The Montreal Alouettes Aluettes. 2:33:41.400 --> 2:33:43.800 He was a four time All Pro and the NFL 2:33:43.879 --> 2:33:47.040 receiving yards leader in two thousand and six. Originally from Miami, 2:33:47.280 --> 2:33:50.280 he played college football for Santa Monica College and Oregon 2:33:50.360 --> 2:33:55.000 State University. Off the field, he's known for flamboyant personality 2:33:55.200 --> 2:33:58.640 and antics, including a name change, reality TV appearances, and 2:33:58.680 --> 2:33:59.760 an act of social media. 2:34:00.200 --> 2:34:02.920 Wow, Jules, who do you think we're talking about? Buddy? 2:34:03.120 --> 2:34:05.280 Let's get on. Chad Ocho Cinco. 2:34:06.000 --> 2:34:08.440 And what's the first thing you think of, Jules when 2:34:08.480 --> 2:34:12.040 you hear the name chad Ocho Sinko Johnson. 2:34:12.760 --> 2:34:15.720 The first thing I think of. One of the wildest 2:34:15.760 --> 2:34:19.640 card moments or wildest moves ever. It was we draft 2:34:19.840 --> 2:34:22.200 or we we traded for Chad and we went into 2:34:22.240 --> 2:34:29.160 the we were installing the offense, and during installation, chadow' 2:34:29.200 --> 2:34:32.840 sha our coach, you know, Chaddio. Yes, he goes all right, guys, 2:34:33.040 --> 2:34:37.040 we got everything. It's all good, you know. Just don't 2:34:37.120 --> 2:34:39.160 be seen. I'm gonna let you out of meetings early. 2:34:39.400 --> 2:34:43.400 Don't be seen. We still have a team meeting. Don't 2:34:43.440 --> 2:34:44.840 be seen. We have a team meeting. 2:34:45.080 --> 2:34:47.720 So clear this up. You got a lot of meetings early, 2:34:47.800 --> 2:34:49.400 but we have a team meeting. 2:34:49.440 --> 2:34:51.600 Still we still had a meeting after so we had 2:34:51.640 --> 2:34:53.600 like an hour and a half for a meeting until 2:34:53.680 --> 2:34:55.960 the next meeting. But Chad had to get some shit 2:34:56.080 --> 2:34:58.760 done alright, We got everything installed. We had a pretty 2:34:58.800 --> 2:35:02.640 smart room, and so he let us out early. Well, 2:35:02.720 --> 2:35:05.760 Chad thought it was smart. And this is Chad's like 2:35:05.879 --> 2:35:09.879 first couple weeks there, he thought it was be smart 2:35:10.120 --> 2:35:12.840 to leave the facility and on the way out poke 2:35:12.920 --> 2:35:15.480 his head into Bill's office and asked if he wanted 2:35:15.520 --> 2:35:17.400 anything from Starbucks. 2:35:19.320 --> 2:35:22.840 And and so that's wild, that is what what did 2:35:22.879 --> 2:35:25.040 he think it meant to not be seen, like to 2:35:25.160 --> 2:35:27.200 not go on it, I don't know, to not post 2:35:27.240 --> 2:35:28.160 a picture online. 2:35:28.240 --> 2:35:30.160 I think he was just new and he's still trying 2:35:30.160 --> 2:35:33.240 to be friendly in the whole thing. But like it 2:35:33.360 --> 2:35:36.600 was a total accident, total accident. And then you know, 2:35:36.680 --> 2:35:40.400 the next time we had a receiver meeting in the room, 2:35:41.280 --> 2:35:44.600 Osha was like, fucking guy, he got ripped a new 2:35:44.680 --> 2:35:47.960 asshole because you know, what are you doing let guys 2:35:48.000 --> 2:35:50.400 out early? This that it just was a whole thing, 2:35:51.000 --> 2:35:54.160 just a wild like he didn't he didn't understand. But 2:35:54.320 --> 2:35:56.680 that's what I thought of, Like, man, Chad's crazy. The 2:35:56.720 --> 2:35:59.520 whole kiss, the baby thing, the whole every it's real. 2:35:59.680 --> 2:36:02.040 He just he just goes off of what he feels, 2:36:02.280 --> 2:36:04.080 off of his instincts. What do you think of when 2:36:04.120 --> 2:36:07.120 you think of Ocho? Well, first off, the name change. 2:36:07.440 --> 2:36:08.120 You gotta love it. 2:36:08.240 --> 2:36:10.520 He was one of the most entertaining players you know, 2:36:10.760 --> 2:36:13.920 in our generation while we were growing up. Yeah, for sure, 2:36:14.360 --> 2:36:17.480 Cincinnati Bengals, that's for sure. I truly believe he's a 2:36:17.520 --> 2:36:19.879 Bengal for life. He played for a couple other teams after, 2:36:20.000 --> 2:36:22.440 but one hundred percent Bengal for life. He kind of 2:36:22.480 --> 2:36:26.520 put that wide receiver you know position on the map 2:36:26.760 --> 2:36:30.240 in that era to continue the streak going of you know, 2:36:30.640 --> 2:36:35.800 of being kind of you know, spontaneous, entertaining, entertaining, a 2:36:35.879 --> 2:36:38.959 little bit of drama as well, but also so good 2:36:39.360 --> 2:36:41.280 at the game of football that he can pull it 2:36:41.400 --> 2:36:44.160 off and you know, not be a problem child at 2:36:44.200 --> 2:36:47.440 all in some cases I would say possibly, but just overall, 2:36:47.480 --> 2:36:49.680 he was so good at the game of football. He 2:36:49.920 --> 2:36:52.600 was so quick that he could pull off all that 2:36:52.760 --> 2:36:54.680 dancing that he was doing, He can pull off all 2:36:54.800 --> 2:36:56.600 that trash talk that he was doing. He could pull 2:36:56.640 --> 2:36:59.320 off all those antics off the field during the offseason 2:36:59.360 --> 2:37:01.760 that he was doing, you know, playing soccer with the 2:37:01.879 --> 2:37:06.480 MLS teams, kicking extra points as well during the preseason games. 2:37:06.520 --> 2:37:09.160 I mean, this guy had talent, and he had so 2:37:09.280 --> 2:37:12.039 much talent that he could be a wild card dude 2:37:12.080 --> 2:37:14.920 whenever he wanted because of that type of talent that 2:37:15.080 --> 2:37:17.440 he had. And you got to appreciate that as well, 2:37:17.560 --> 2:37:21.279 because it's just cool man to see just someone be himselves. 2:37:21.360 --> 2:37:22.280 That's who he is. You know. 2:37:22.640 --> 2:37:24.240 It's not like he was doing it for a show, 2:37:24.560 --> 2:37:26.520 which it was a show, but he was truly doing 2:37:26.560 --> 2:37:28.840 it because that's just how he was born. 2:37:28.959 --> 2:37:31.560 And you got to respect that aspect of his game 2:37:32.360 --> 2:37:34.640 of who he is. He was like the first guy 2:37:34.720 --> 2:37:36.879 with a million followers on Twitter in the NFL. 2:37:36.959 --> 2:37:39.720 I think Tom absolutely hated that he was on Twitter 2:37:40.280 --> 2:37:43.800 because he was mister Twitter. He had like three million followers. 2:37:43.920 --> 2:37:46.720 The second highest person was like two hundred thousand in 2:37:46.760 --> 2:37:49.520 the NFL. And this is in twenty twelve. He got 2:37:49.600 --> 2:37:51.760 traded to the New England Patriots, and he's always on 2:37:51.879 --> 2:37:55.240 Twitter still, and Tom and Coach Ballichick were just always 2:37:55.280 --> 2:37:58.080 grilling him like, oh, you get off freaking Twitter. Get 2:37:58.120 --> 2:38:01.160 off Twitter. It doesn't help you in the game of football. 2:38:01.200 --> 2:38:05.840 But it never really like really I would say. What 2:38:06.080 --> 2:38:08.320 am I trying to say affected his game is? Twitter 2:38:08.480 --> 2:38:11.039 was just back then they just acted like it did, 2:38:11.560 --> 2:38:13.160 you know, But we. 2:38:13.320 --> 2:38:15.240 Just did things differently in New England and he didn't. 2:38:15.360 --> 2:38:18.200 He didn't that he didn't comply to it. The funniest 2:38:18.480 --> 2:38:20.480 the point is where I'm getting to is now Tom 2:38:20.600 --> 2:38:24.560 is mister Instagram and and so like our mister X. 2:38:25.040 --> 2:38:29.879 So that was the point I was getting to. Well, 2:38:30.480 --> 2:38:33.680 another thing, it was always known that he loved McDonald's. 2:38:35.280 --> 2:38:38.760 What's your take on that. I mean, it's kind of 2:38:38.800 --> 2:38:40.640 freaky that you could just eat McDonald's still do. 2:38:40.840 --> 2:38:43.200 McDonald's for most of his career, and he also said 2:38:43.200 --> 2:38:47.039 it helped his body, like callous for football, I guess. 2:38:47.160 --> 2:38:49.720 I mean, there's only one guy that could possibly do this. 2:38:49.840 --> 2:38:51.760 I mean there's a lot of players that sometimes, you know, 2:38:51.879 --> 2:38:54.879 not sometimes eat fast food. But I'm talking like Chad 2:38:54.959 --> 2:38:58.880 did it on a daily basis, breakfast, lunch, dinner. And 2:38:59.480 --> 2:39:01.600 I saw he went to that corner store right on 2:39:01.720 --> 2:39:03.400 Root one, right next to you. Let's see him. There's 2:39:03.400 --> 2:39:04.200 a McDonald's there. 2:39:04.360 --> 2:39:07.520 It's the half's half, it's half in the McDonald half 2:39:07.560 --> 2:39:08.080 liquor store. 2:39:08.080 --> 2:39:09.760 I think he would go there, and he's always in 2:39:09.800 --> 2:39:11.200 the drive through. And I saw him one time. He 2:39:11.280 --> 2:39:13.240 pulled up and he was eating the h the fish 2:39:13.320 --> 2:39:14.119 filet sandwich. 2:39:14.480 --> 2:39:17.280 I like the fish filet, though. What's your favorite dam McDonald's. 2:39:17.560 --> 2:39:22.320 Uh, the coffee bro They got legit coffee there. I 2:39:22.360 --> 2:39:24.720 don't really eat McDonald's. If I do, I get the 2:39:24.800 --> 2:39:29.440 double cheeseburger and I just take the the patties off 2:39:29.520 --> 2:39:31.800 of the bread and I just eat the smash Hamburger 2:39:31.840 --> 2:39:34.040 patties with the cheese. I don't like to bread smash them. 2:39:34.480 --> 2:39:37.119 I mean, I think it's safe to just eat the meat. 2:39:37.440 --> 2:39:40.480 You know what about the mcgriddle? Oh breakfast, they got 2:39:40.560 --> 2:39:43.920 legit breakfast sausage pancakes. Oh the pancakes are on fire. 2:39:44.000 --> 2:39:46.160 So I'm a breakfast guy at Mcdonald'syeah, I'm not going 2:39:46.240 --> 2:39:49.520 to really eat you know, their lunch or dinner. No 2:39:49.680 --> 2:39:51.400 big Mac, like if I do get the Big Mac, 2:39:51.480 --> 2:39:53.800 Like I said, I'm just eating the patties only. But 2:39:53.959 --> 2:39:57.600 it's just impressive, though, Chad ate that McDonald's every single day, 2:39:57.800 --> 2:40:00.920 every single day. Body was just some achine. I mean, 2:40:01.200 --> 2:40:03.160 I guess if you get used to it. Your mind 2:40:03.480 --> 2:40:05.280 is just gonna know what to do with that type 2:40:05.320 --> 2:40:08.000 of you know, nutrition. So hats off to Oto. 2:40:08.080 --> 2:40:11.440 Sinks he's crazy. He would like race an him. Didn't 2:40:11.440 --> 2:40:14.280 he race a horse? He doesn't care. He'll fight anyone. 2:40:15.320 --> 2:40:18.480 Chad is, So, what do you think you can beat 2:40:18.480 --> 2:40:19.240 a horse in a race? 2:40:19.600 --> 2:40:19.640 No? 2:40:19.879 --> 2:40:22.720 No chance? I mean, would you ever race a horse? 2:40:23.680 --> 2:40:24.240 No chance? 2:40:24.680 --> 2:40:27.000 A horse and I have one thing in common, Jules, 2:40:27.360 --> 2:40:29.280 and I'm not gonna tell you what it is. I 2:40:30.600 --> 2:40:35.720 just use your wild imagination. I get to understand. Thank you, 2:40:36.000 --> 2:40:38.880 I understand, thank you. Well, he raced a horse for 2:40:38.959 --> 2:40:41.440 a cherry feed the children. You know, he had one 2:40:41.520 --> 2:40:44.200 hundred meters start and he beat the horse, which you know, 2:40:44.360 --> 2:40:47.320 props to him. He's silly, always just doing silly things. 2:40:47.400 --> 2:40:52.400 Man, He did silly things. But people like when we 2:40:52.480 --> 2:40:57.560 were playing he had elite feet, like his footwork was 2:40:58.720 --> 2:41:01.600 quicker than any one I knew. And we cult him 2:41:01.600 --> 2:41:03.120 on the tail end of his career, and he still 2:41:03.160 --> 2:41:06.560 had some really insanely quick feet where he meaning he 2:41:06.640 --> 2:41:08.400 could get in and out of breaks. For how tall 2:41:08.440 --> 2:41:11.280 he was at six ' one, he was a real 2:41:11.520 --> 2:41:14.720 He was a skinnier guy, but usually when you're six 2:41:14.760 --> 2:41:16.240 to one, it's harder for you to get in and 2:41:16.320 --> 2:41:20.160 out of breaks. But you watch his comebacks, his releases, 2:41:21.080 --> 2:41:25.080 like he was always the separation king to the at 2:41:25.160 --> 2:41:27.880 the top of route, at the beginning of route. He 2:41:28.080 --> 2:41:31.720 was an elite receiver. Now with all the antics and stuff, 2:41:31.800 --> 2:41:34.760 we all remember him that because that's probably because he 2:41:34.800 --> 2:41:39.480 didn't win. But he was a fucking elite receiver that 2:41:39.600 --> 2:41:41.520 had a lot of production for a long time in 2:41:41.600 --> 2:41:43.160 this league. He was so quick. 2:41:43.280 --> 2:41:45.440 He had the best releases in the game as well. 2:41:45.480 --> 2:41:47.160 And like you said, I think he was the quickest play. 2:41:47.200 --> 2:41:48.840 He had the quickest feet in the game of football. 2:41:48.879 --> 2:41:51.680 Was like poppup pup up on He would go side 2:41:51.720 --> 2:41:54.360 to side with it as well. So I'm sure he's 2:41:54.400 --> 2:41:56.880 a great line dancer as well. He won Dancing with 2:41:56.959 --> 2:41:59.640 the Stars, did he fourth came and fourth fourth? 2:41:59.760 --> 2:41:59.880 Right. 2:42:00.440 --> 2:42:03.560 There's one thing that's always certain, he said, and that's 2:42:03.680 --> 2:42:07.360 death taxes and eighty five gonna always be open always. 2:42:07.360 --> 2:42:09.400 He got to love him for that, and he was 2:42:09.520 --> 2:42:12.840 always open. Besides, when he got to New England, he 2:42:13.040 --> 2:42:14.840 was he was struggling a little bit there. 2:42:15.120 --> 2:42:16.240 Why do you think he struggled? 2:42:16.360 --> 2:42:19.040 I just think he struggled because, you know, just a 2:42:19.160 --> 2:42:23.800 complicity of the playbook a little bit. I feel like 2:42:23.879 --> 2:42:25.800 he had the freelance to do whatever he wanted to 2:42:25.920 --> 2:42:28.560 do in Cincinnati, and then when he got to New England, 2:42:28.560 --> 2:42:30.480 it was more of a structure like this is what 2:42:30.560 --> 2:42:32.480 you gotta do. This is how you get open. It's 2:42:32.520 --> 2:42:34.640 not like you're gonna be able to just freelance to 2:42:34.720 --> 2:42:37.280 play backyard football. I feel like he played backyard football 2:42:37.280 --> 2:42:40.440 a little bit more with the Cincinnati Bengals. Tom wanted 2:42:40.440 --> 2:42:42.800 it like that, but possibly he wanted to do it 2:42:42.920 --> 2:42:44.640 like that, but he couldn't do it like that because 2:42:44.680 --> 2:42:46.760 Tom wanted it like that. I mean, it just didn't 2:42:46.800 --> 2:42:49.000 really work out to the tea that you know, we 2:42:49.080 --> 2:42:52.480 wanted it to obviously what what coach Belichick wanted to do, 2:42:52.640 --> 2:42:56.720 and as teammates as well. But there's one thing though 2:42:56.760 --> 2:42:58.920 that we know we got blessed with the presence of 2:42:59.240 --> 2:43:02.240 Chain for that whole entire year, and that's what is 2:43:02.320 --> 2:43:04.720 more important is just to be around a great dude 2:43:04.760 --> 2:43:06.920 and just to see, you know, how he carried himself 2:43:07.000 --> 2:43:09.400 to just one of the greatest wide receivers of the game. 2:43:09.920 --> 2:43:11.360 Do you have any stories about Chad. 2:43:11.680 --> 2:43:13.960 We went out to dinner actually during training camp, and 2:43:14.360 --> 2:43:15.840 he was just a great character man. 2:43:15.920 --> 2:43:16.200 I love. 2:43:16.320 --> 2:43:19.280 He always got the waitress wound up, you know, he 2:43:19.360 --> 2:43:21.080 got her wound up, cracking. 2:43:20.840 --> 2:43:23.080 Jokes like you know, where'd you guys go? 2:43:23.280 --> 2:43:27.440 We went Toby Keith's Iron Grill right there at Patriot Place, 2:43:27.600 --> 2:43:30.200 and he would be flirting and then the waitress would 2:43:30.240 --> 2:43:32.520 be flirting back with us, and like, you're just such 2:43:32.520 --> 2:43:34.200 an awe because we were such young bucks. And just 2:43:34.240 --> 2:43:36.760 how he was so spontaneous and so quick with his game, 2:43:36.840 --> 2:43:39.640 like his the way he would speak and and talk 2:43:40.080 --> 2:43:42.360 and have game, it was like his feet were. 2:43:42.320 --> 2:43:45.440 Running his mouth like just that quick, you know. 2:43:45.680 --> 2:43:48.160 And then what's so great about it is like he 2:43:48.160 --> 2:43:50.080 would leave her hanging though, because he would give like 2:43:50.120 --> 2:43:53.160 an outrageous tip to her and then like didn't leave 2:43:53.200 --> 2:43:55.000 his number anything, like he would get the you know, 2:43:55.080 --> 2:43:55.920 he would get the waitress. 2:43:56.400 --> 2:43:59.640 He just gets He's just outgoing. He likes to push 2:43:59.680 --> 2:44:01.199 people buttons, I think. 2:44:01.320 --> 2:44:03.640 Exactly, give her an outrageous tip and then we would 2:44:03.640 --> 2:44:05.680 all just leave and the waitress be like, oh what wait, 2:44:06.040 --> 2:44:06.480 where'd he go? 2:44:06.720 --> 2:44:08.640 Like I didn't get his number or anything. But he 2:44:08.640 --> 2:44:11.080 would just bounce on Chad was so fun. It was fun. 2:44:11.160 --> 2:44:13.760 I also could kick. He had a big soccer background, 2:44:13.760 --> 2:44:15.600 and I think that's probably what helped him with such 2:44:15.640 --> 2:44:19.360 great feet, quick feet that he had. I mean, I 2:44:19.440 --> 2:44:22.600 remember Cincinnati, their kicker got hurt. He kicked a field goal. 2:44:23.320 --> 2:44:25.080 He kicked a couple fields. I think he kicked a 2:44:25.120 --> 2:44:28.200 thirty yarder. He played in soccer leagues. I think he 2:44:28.280 --> 2:44:30.200 tried to play in a professional league at one pain. 2:44:30.520 --> 2:44:32.840 He tried out for the Kansas City MLS team during 2:44:32.879 --> 2:44:36.120 the twenty eleven NFL lockout, and while he was trying 2:44:36.160 --> 2:44:39.720 to do that, I was doing my wild, wild dude shit, Jules. 2:44:39.760 --> 2:44:42.080 I was at the University of Arizona during that lockout, 2:44:42.120 --> 2:44:44.040 and I was at the pool parties, dancing up on 2:44:44.120 --> 2:44:47.080 the on the stage and everything. At the pool parties, 2:44:47.520 --> 2:44:50.280 I was freaking pounding beers and everyone was like, Oh, 2:44:50.320 --> 2:44:52.640 You're gonna be in big trouble by coach Belichick after 2:44:52.720 --> 2:44:53.280 the lockout. 2:44:53.480 --> 2:44:54.560 But what did I do. 2:44:54.760 --> 2:44:56.720 I showed up and I was just as wild out 2:44:56.760 --> 2:44:58.440 on that football field and training camp. 2:44:58.520 --> 2:44:58.800 Baby. 2:44:58.840 --> 2:45:01.040 That was That was my favorite offseason was after my 2:45:01.120 --> 2:45:02.720 rookie year because we didn't have to go in at 2:45:02.760 --> 2:45:04.520 all at all, and I got to be wild as 2:45:04.600 --> 2:45:06.440 possible because I had a little bit of money. I 2:45:06.560 --> 2:45:08.920 was twenty one years old and I was just running 2:45:08.959 --> 2:45:13.280 around college campuses just being an absolute wild maniac. It 2:45:13.400 --> 2:45:16.360 was the greatest offseason of my career, no doubt about that. 2:45:16.959 --> 2:45:19.040 What did you do during the lockout, Jeueles, I just 2:45:19.080 --> 2:45:20.080 told you what I was doing. 2:45:20.760 --> 2:45:23.920 I actually took a couple of classes at Kent. I 2:45:24.040 --> 2:45:27.440 was in LA trained out here. Didn't we have like 2:45:27.520 --> 2:45:30.720 a fucking we had like a couple of team practices 2:45:30.760 --> 2:45:34.240 at BC during the lockoutmember that when we when Brady 2:45:34.360 --> 2:45:35.560 called a couple we did. 2:45:35.640 --> 2:45:38.400 We had about three practices at BC. That was really cool. 2:45:38.560 --> 2:45:41.160 That just shows the leadership of time, just how wild 2:45:41.240 --> 2:45:44.400 of a leader he was. Tom wasn't a wild card. 2:45:44.480 --> 2:45:46.959 He was a wild leader and that that just shows 2:45:47.040 --> 2:45:49.840 you know why he's, you know, one of the actually 2:45:50.080 --> 2:45:51.240 the greatest player to play. 2:45:51.879 --> 2:45:55.400 Could Chad kick the field goal kick of destiny? For 2:45:55.640 --> 2:45:58.600 that you do everywhere? Yeah? One hundred percent, so easy. Yeah. 2:45:58.760 --> 2:46:01.080 He kicked an extra point in the season game, which 2:46:01.160 --> 2:46:04.039 that's a lot harder than kicking the kick of destiny. 2:46:04.080 --> 2:46:05.960 I mean, I don't have a line. No one's snapping it. 2:46:06.040 --> 2:46:08.560 The balls just set sitting there on a tee for you. 2:46:08.680 --> 2:46:12.600 And it's easy, just a layup and freaking I missed twice, 2:46:12.680 --> 2:46:14.880 So Chad out, Josinko, I actually need you for the 2:46:15.000 --> 2:46:17.680 kick of destiny. I'm actually not doing it this year, 2:46:18.360 --> 2:46:21.320 but in the future I'll possibly be doing it again. 2:46:21.440 --> 2:46:24.400 So I want Chad o Jo Sinko as my coach 2:46:24.560 --> 2:46:25.959 or my replacement for the kick. 2:46:25.879 --> 2:46:31.680 Of Now what how how far is the kick of destiny? Uh? Oh? 2:46:31.959 --> 2:46:34.240 Twenty five yards? So it's twenty five yards. 2:46:34.280 --> 2:46:36.000 I was kicking it on the fifteen yard line. 2:46:36.160 --> 2:46:40.600 And so how far do you think they would have 2:46:40.760 --> 2:46:44.720 to handicap Chad's kick? Because he can kick it better, 2:46:45.040 --> 2:46:47.080 so we'd have to bring I would say he would 2:46:47.080 --> 2:46:50.160 have to kick a forty yarder. A forty I think 2:46:50.200 --> 2:46:51.600 he got forty easy though. 2:46:51.640 --> 2:46:54.840 I mean, but no, he does it forty easy. But 2:46:54.879 --> 2:46:56.920 that's the point I missed the last two years. So 2:46:57.120 --> 2:46:59.440 we need someone to make it now, okay, And we 2:46:59.520 --> 2:47:00.680 want him to make it as. 2:47:00.560 --> 2:47:03.280 Well for the fans out there and for fan duel 2:47:03.400 --> 2:47:04.240 and for just. 2:47:04.400 --> 2:47:08.720 The kick of destiny. But what about his TD celebrations 2:47:08.760 --> 2:47:10.680 as well. He was one of the best in the game. 2:47:10.959 --> 2:47:13.120 He wore the gold jacket that said future Hall of 2:47:13.200 --> 2:47:16.480 Fame two thousand with two question marks as a post 2:47:16.560 --> 2:47:20.600 touchdown celebration. How about the cheerleader proposal. I actually got 2:47:20.720 --> 2:47:22.560 to take some tips from you because I'm now dating 2:47:22.600 --> 2:47:26.080 a cheerleader. I've been chad ol chosenko. So you proposed 2:47:26.120 --> 2:47:28.960 in the first freaking four seconds you matter, which is 2:47:29.000 --> 2:47:29.760 pretty impressive. 2:47:29.800 --> 2:47:30.440 So call me up. 2:47:30.520 --> 2:47:32.960 I need some tips, brother. And then he was putting 2:47:33.360 --> 2:47:36.640 the football like a damn golf ball as well. When 2:47:36.680 --> 2:47:39.920 he did I never done that, man. My craziest TV 2:47:40.040 --> 2:47:42.880 celebration was just spiking the ball. Or actually when I 2:47:43.000 --> 2:47:45.600 was you know the one in London as well, when 2:47:45.600 --> 2:47:48.080 I did the booty shaking, that was pretty impressive. And 2:47:48.760 --> 2:47:53.760 the soldier I did, yeah, the soldier of guarding the Buckingham. 2:47:53.280 --> 2:47:56.920 Palace Buckingham Palace, well yes, yeah, now he remember he 2:47:57.200 --> 2:48:01.640 didn't he uh? He took the camera once and and 2:48:01.879 --> 2:48:08.480 was filming. This was like the full generation of overly celebrated, crazy, 2:48:09.080 --> 2:48:13.000 get your popcorn ready celebrations by receivers. Remember like Joe 2:48:13.040 --> 2:48:16.560 Horn he was taking cell phones out. You got Chad 2:48:16.680 --> 2:48:21.200 doing everything. Chad's doing t O and his celebrations. I 2:48:21.320 --> 2:48:24.120 mean just this was like the era where they were 2:48:24.160 --> 2:48:26.480 getting fired. They were they were getting penalized for it too. 2:48:26.640 --> 2:48:29.880 They didn't give a they didn't care. But it was 2:48:29.920 --> 2:48:32.920 still fun. You know, that was the No Fun League 2:48:32.920 --> 2:48:33.760 at the time. It was. 2:48:33.879 --> 2:48:38.240 I remember that when everyone was translating NFL as to 2:48:38.280 --> 2:48:41.039 be the No Fun because they kept finding Oo Sinko 2:48:41.200 --> 2:48:44.640 and all the other guys that were being entertaining, you know, 2:48:44.959 --> 2:48:46.080 to the to the fans. 2:48:46.160 --> 2:48:49.960 So James Harrison or Ocho Cinco they're fighting here soon 2:48:51.120 --> 2:48:55.160 super Bowl weekend. Mm A style? Who are you going with? 2:48:55.680 --> 2:48:58.800 It's i'm m a style I'm going with, uh obviously 2:48:58.959 --> 2:48:59.680 James Harrison. 2:49:00.640 --> 2:49:03.160 The thing is that this is how crazy Chad is. 2:49:03.360 --> 2:49:07.080 Why the fuck are you fighting James Harrison? Who I 2:49:07.160 --> 2:49:08.760 think he knocked him out of a game once. 2:49:09.360 --> 2:49:11.920 James Harrison is a freak of nature. He's just gonna 2:49:11.920 --> 2:49:14.080 get a hold of Ocho Cinco and just break him 2:49:14.120 --> 2:49:17.880 in half. This thing thing box O Cho Sinkle is 2:49:17.920 --> 2:49:21.760 gonna have. Yeah, boxing is different story quick. This is 2:49:21.840 --> 2:49:23.640 I'm May Now, this is I'm a May style like 2:49:24.400 --> 2:49:26.520 James can put his hands on him and do whatever 2:49:26.560 --> 2:49:27.640 he wants to do to him. 2:49:28.160 --> 2:49:31.400 James plays volleyball with like eighty pound balls. Remember when 2:49:31.440 --> 2:49:33.360 he throws it over the thing? Yeah, he does, so 2:49:33.480 --> 2:49:34.920 you know he can catch motherfuckers. 2:49:35.040 --> 2:49:38.520 Yeah, Ocho Sinkle's wild wild. I love it though, keeping 2:49:38.600 --> 2:49:41.600 wild Ojo time, let's go. What kind of dude is 2:49:41.720 --> 2:49:44.439 Chad Ocho Sinko? Ladies and gentlemen. 2:49:44.200 --> 2:49:46.720 Joined, dude is chat och Come on now. 2:49:48.560 --> 2:49:51.039 I wouldn't really say freak. I mean his feet were. 2:49:50.920 --> 2:49:55.880 Freaking freaky freaky feet. Yes, dudes, dude, Yeah, he was man. 2:49:55.959 --> 2:49:56.960 He was all about the guys. 2:49:57.080 --> 2:49:57.400 He was. 2:49:57.520 --> 2:49:59.959 He brought us out to dinner. Yeah, he always invites 2:50:00.080 --> 2:50:02.160 knows in New England and invited everyone in the round. 2:50:02.360 --> 2:50:03.920 He was a dude's dude, no doubt about that. 2:50:04.080 --> 2:50:04.760 Whiz whiz. 2:50:04.959 --> 2:50:07.119 I won't really go that far because, like I said, 2:50:07.200 --> 2:50:09.520 I think he struggled with the with our playbook a 2:50:09.560 --> 2:50:11.800 little bittle bit. So did I. I didn't even play 2:50:12.480 --> 2:50:14.720 my rookie year because I didn't know our playbook. It's 2:50:14.920 --> 2:50:17.720 very it's a it's a very tough playbook. 2:50:17.720 --> 2:50:19.320 It's very got a dog in him too. I mean, 2:50:19.320 --> 2:50:24.080 he don't care. He'll he'll freaking challenge anything, anyone to anything, 2:50:24.520 --> 2:50:27.000 I mean, race to a horse. He'll box you. He 2:50:27.120 --> 2:50:31.160 doesn't care. But I think he's I think he's a stud. 2:50:31.360 --> 2:50:32.680 I think he's a stud as well. 2:50:32.800 --> 2:50:36.520 I feel like that feet you know he's doing off 2:50:36.560 --> 2:50:41.080 the field. Now, he's just he's a lovable guy. But 2:50:41.200 --> 2:50:43.480 he was always he always had. He's a stud. To me, 2:50:44.080 --> 2:50:44.720 he is a stud. 2:50:44.800 --> 2:50:48.840 I mean just the way you know he presented himself 2:50:49.000 --> 2:50:50.680 on the field and off the field. 2:50:51.440 --> 2:50:53.440 That's when you know you're Stutley, you know. 2:50:54.120 --> 2:50:56.800 And he was so fast, and he was such a 2:50:56.879 --> 2:51:00.520 stud that he had a race a horse, because horses studs. 2:51:00.879 --> 2:51:03.800 So that makes chat out cha sinko a stud. A 2:51:03.920 --> 2:51:07.520 stud keeps the girl waiting at the bar, yes, like 2:51:07.800 --> 2:51:10.760 like he did, Yes, knows that. You know, he could 2:51:10.800 --> 2:51:13.480 have probably took the little lady on a date, but 2:51:13.800 --> 2:51:17.200 just just did it just to I don't know, he's 2:51:17.200 --> 2:51:19.200 a stud, just to be a stud. On three one 2:51:19.320 --> 2:51:24.199 two three stud. Well, that's been another episode of Dudes 2:51:24.240 --> 2:51:29.000 on Dudes. 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