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Speaker 2: Dudes on Dudes is a production of iHeartRadio, and we're

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Speaker 2: gonna start with a former player, a guy that everyone knows,

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Speaker 2: a Hall of famer out there with a guy that

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Speaker 2: we play with with on New England. About two years

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Speaker 2: for you, two years for me, a quarter season for myself,

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Speaker 2: my rookie year in a quarter for me. But everyone

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Speaker 2: knows who he is, Randy Freakin' Moss. Please pull the

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Speaker 2: picture out. Randy Moss was an absolute dominant force on

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Speaker 2: the football field. I didn't want to put him in

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Speaker 2: the category right away. I didn't want to describe the category.

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Speaker 2: But the guy had personality. Everyone loves him to this day.

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Speaker 2: He's a great TV. He's on TV TV analyst somehow

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Speaker 2: awesome on TV. He's mossing people still to this day.

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Speaker 2: You got what his segment? You got must and you

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Speaker 2: know who this is?

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Speaker 1: Rob You know the shots from No, it's a shot

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Speaker 1: from This shot is from when he was leaving the

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Speaker 1: players parking lot, I believe, I think on a Tuesday

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Speaker 1: after he got fined for mooning Green Bay. Remember he

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Speaker 1: got fined for moving Green Bay. And this is like

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Speaker 1: right immediately after when some reporter came up to him said, Raindy,

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Speaker 1: what do you think about game fining. He says, straight cash, homie.

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Speaker 1: That's what Randy is. And that quote is still used

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Speaker 1: to this day. Great cash homie.

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Speaker 2: Great cash homie. Whenever I pay anyone in cash, I

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Speaker 2: always say straight cash homeie. Oh, every single time. That's

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Speaker 2: going to live on forever.

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Speaker 1: How many years ago is that? That was a long

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Speaker 1: time ago? Twenty No, it wasn't twenty How I was

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Speaker 1: in high school man when that happened. He was on

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings, right hey, he was in the Vikings

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Speaker 1: at that time, So that was like what five maybe five?

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Speaker 1: I think you need to start this twenty years ago?

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Speaker 1: Did we start the top of the clock. Now, Rob's

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Speaker 1: got a little research that he's done. Now, Rob, how

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Speaker 1: did you get this research?

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Speaker 2: I just typed in the player's name on co pilot

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Speaker 2: and uh what type of you know, football player they

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Speaker 2: are or person they are? And it just popped up,

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Speaker 2: and you know, you gotta work smarter, not harder, you

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Speaker 2: gotta work.

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Speaker 1: What it's all about it is. So let's let's what

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Speaker 1: is what did a co pilots say?

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Speaker 2: This will also help.

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Speaker 1: Out my reading skills?

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Speaker 2: See dudes on dudes, I mean, we're not the smartest dudes.

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Speaker 2: Julian No, but we're also not the biggest idiots.

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Speaker 1: I know, we have.

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Speaker 2: Common sense and we're here, you know, doing this show

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Speaker 2: as well to help us out in life as well.

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Speaker 1: I would say we're idiots. I would say we're idiots.

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Speaker 1: We're not dumb. Yes, yes, we are idiots in a

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Speaker 1: good way though, ye best way. We're not like IQ

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Speaker 1: gonna like knock you off the charts. But you know,

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Speaker 1: like we're also not going to spend you know, like

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Speaker 1: all your money. If you have like two dollars, you're

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Speaker 1: going to spend fifty. That's like coming said, yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: there you go.

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Speaker 2: You hit it right on the nose. And are reading

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Speaker 1: Are you know? NOA skills are terrible everyone out there.

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Speaker 2: So this is gonna help my reading skills. It's going

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Speaker 2: to help my creativity doing this show as well. And

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Speaker 2: just being able to talk.

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Speaker 1: So we're building muscles, and we're also in the media

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Speaker 1: because we're going to use their AI. Let's go. So

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Speaker 2: We got we got Randy Moss, right, Yeah, Randy Moss.

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Speaker 1: What is muss?

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Speaker 2: Randy Moss was a dynamic and explosive wide receiver known

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Speaker 2: for his exceptional speed, leaping ability, and playmaking skills. His

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Speaker 2: Moss was renowned, renowned, right renowned for his ability to

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Speaker 2: make acrobatic catches and score touchdowns, earning him earning him

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Speaker 2: a reputation as one of the most talented and dangerous

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Speaker 2: the two thousand and seven New England Patriots record setting off.

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Speaker 1: He was he was start the clock. Start the clock.

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Speaker 2: We got ten minutes which each player that we will

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Speaker 2: be talking about.

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Speaker 1: First of them. That's pretty damn good by co pilot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, co pilot the money and Rob.

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Speaker 1: I think he knocked it out the park.

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Speaker 2: I was a co pilot reading that, I think you

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Speaker 2: were the actual pilot.

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 2: I was that actual pilot. No co pilot, you were.

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Speaker 2: You were there, but you weren't there.

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Speaker 1: I was co piloting by just sitting there. Were the

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Speaker 1: passenger I was a passenger, Yes you were. I was

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Speaker 1: a passenger. But who know who was the ride? It

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Speaker 1: was freaking good. It was freaky yeah, which was also

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Speaker 1: Randy's nickname. It was it was the freak. Randy went

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Speaker 1: to Would you go? You went to Marshall? There's so

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Speaker 1: many crazy stories about he committed to Florida State, then

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Speaker 2: I never heard any of those stories. But he ended

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Speaker 2: up at Marshall University. Where is Marshall anyways.

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Speaker 1: West Virginia. It's in West Virginia. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And you always from Rand, West Virginia, like Randy Moss

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Speaker 2: is from Rand, West Virginia.

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Speaker 1: He used to say that all the time in practice.

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Speaker 1: Hey Rand you Rand? You remember you would always say

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Speaker 1: White chocolate was from there? It was white chocolate. I

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Speaker 1: eat Who's white chocolate? Jason? Yeah, teammates, teammates in high school? Dude.

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Speaker 1: He always loves to fish too. He That was the

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Speaker 1: one thing you always knew about Moss in the off season.

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Speaker 1: You were never he was like a farm boy. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he loved outdoors. You love fishing. Oh you know, I

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Speaker 1: not a big fisher. I was like the kid wakeboarding.

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Speaker 1: My brother was like the fisher you fish. Nah.

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Speaker 2: I always got seasick every time we took that boat out, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I never became a big fisherman. I mean I had

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Speaker 2: like those sunny fish like that was cool, but never

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Speaker 2: favor fish black and salmon. Black and salmon, yeah, with

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Speaker 1: Yeah. All right. Back to Randy. Back to Randy what

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 2: What year was that he went to the Hall of

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Speaker 2: Fame Football Hall of Fame? That is was like twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 1: We won a Super Bowl. He was a twenty first

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Speaker 1: in college and stuff which I always thought made Randy,

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Speaker 1: But like on the low, he would always give you love.

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Speaker 1: Like for me when I was I was a rookie receiver.

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Speaker 1: Randy would always make me do it. But I was

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Speaker 1: But then when there was no one around, he'd always

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for the for the you know quarter career, you

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Speaker 2: to the young bucks. He did he made me feel

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Speaker 2: very warm and welcome. What do you do to the

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Speaker 2: New England Patriots when I.

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Speaker 1: Was What do he did to make you feel warm

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Speaker 1: and well?

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Speaker 2: So Moss always loved you know, kicking it back having

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Speaker 2: be like myself, you know, I'd be giggling like this.

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Speaker 2: He'd be like, dude, bro, you always giggling. You always

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Speaker 2: having a good time, gronk, Like it's coolest shit, man,

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Speaker 2: coolest shit.

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Speaker 1: How you are man?

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Speaker 2: And I'd be like it made me feel warm and

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Speaker 2: welcome to be myself on the Patriots. And I'd be

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Speaker 2: like I always did that on the field after I

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Speaker 2: get up, like I that was just me. I was

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Speaker 2: you do this?

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Speaker 1: He fucked with dudes that worked hard. He I remember

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Speaker 2: I would say Randy was misunderstood a little bit because

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Speaker 1: That man, because like real one can sound like assholey, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: It sounds Assholey, Like, if he didn't want your freaking food,

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Speaker 1: I still can't fathom that Thanksgiving game that he had.

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Speaker 1: What was the screenshot of of his Well, he had

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Moss, Hoss, Moss, which is the Moss signal. That

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Speaker 2: Every time I saw that play, I thought of Moss

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Speaker 1: Rob, you had how many What was your biggest touchdown season?

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Speaker 2: I had seventeen touchdowns in twenty twelve, but eighteen because

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Speaker 1: Eighteen touchdowns. He had twenty three touchdowns. How fucking nuts?

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Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's ever going to touch that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the eighteen I don't think anyone's

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Speaker 2: Ain't no one ever gonna touch that twenty three touchdown record.

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Speaker 1: But he can go to the casino though it was

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Speaker 2: We would have lost all our money or want a

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: This was a year I was on fire, unstoppable. It

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Speaker 2: That touchdown record is my go. Gronk, you got it. Boy,

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Speaker 2: You the only one that can beat my touchdown record. Gronk,

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Speaker 2: you got this, boy. I want to see you do

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Speaker 2: I go, Moss, I am gonna do a buddy, I'm

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Speaker 2: You're the man. And the freakiest catch I've ever seen

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Speaker 2: It was the second game. It was the second game

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Speaker 2: It was so when he did the invitation of me.

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Speaker 1: No this was was that. That was I don't think

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Speaker 2: So we played the We played Cincinnati my very first game.

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Speaker 1: We lost the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we lost the game. Uh, Brady just tossed it

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Speaker 1: It looked like he barely did it that when he

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Speaker 2: And then oh, and then we played the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 2: He wasn't there anymore.

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Speaker 1: It was sad. It was You want to know something, Jules,

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Speaker 2: We were we were partying man. When he got traded.

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Speaker 2: It was Monday night, and you know us, we were

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Speaker 1: We were maniacs. We were maniacs.

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Speaker 2: You know, how did you find it in the past?

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Speaker 2: And I remember we were together, man, and you were

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Speaker 2: We were hungover and heartbroken. It was probably the worst

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Speaker 1: You wake up, you know, oh fuck, we got to

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Speaker 2: That was one of the examples of of my early

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Speaker 1: Can't trade Rainy trading Rainey can't trade Randy Moss.

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Speaker 2: She's the greatest of all time. And it was really

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Speaker 2: kind of went off like the Patriots ain't giving me

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Speaker 2: just just being a real dude.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he knows. And I love that shit.

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Speaker 2: I love when players act up man, and I thought

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Speaker 2: it was the coolest thing. So it was sad to

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Speaker 2: You know, Bill Is takes no shit.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't. But that's when you're reckon. You realize that

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Speaker 1: this is definitely a business. All right.

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Speaker 2: So some final thoughts Randy Moss, What kind of dude

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Speaker 2: I would say?

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Speaker 1: So, we have a stud at like athleticism football IQ,

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Speaker 2: to be talking about hit all of them.

438
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:10,840
Speaker 1: They hit them.

439
00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,840
Speaker 2: All their attributes are all five of them. But we're

440
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,600
Speaker 2: trying to find the one that exemplifies them the most.

441
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,280
Speaker 2: And with Randy Moss, it's easy. I feel like this

442
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,280
Speaker 2: is a no brainer, no brainer, no brainer. It's already

443
00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:25,639
Speaker 2: in his nickname, the freak.

444
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,760
Speaker 1: The freak, I mean he was. I remember he's just

445
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 1: so fast. He was so he could jump, he he

446
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 1: he could catch the ball. The intricacies of the game

447
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 1: where like that were you would try to coach the guys,

448
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,520
Speaker 1: like late hands and stacking the receiver, like those are

449
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,639
Speaker 1: the things that like we would try to coach. He

450
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,919
Speaker 1: just did it naturally. That's like how he like he

451
00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,159
Speaker 1: just knew how to judge a ball and high point

452
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,200
Speaker 1: balls like he We literally have segments named after him

453
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 1: going up and just mossing dudes.

454
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,359
Speaker 2: And the way the ability he had to just leap

455
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:03,680
Speaker 2: when he was running full speed.

456
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

457
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 2: Is what made him so great because he can have

458
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 2: a defender on him because defenders were just as fast

459
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 2: as him. Some of them were some of the.

460
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Speaker 1: DB's Heylate all right, Remember he used to challenge Slate

461
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 1: all the time.

462
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 2: But every once in a while there there was a

463
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 2: guy that you know, it was kind of covering, but

464
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 2: what did he do. He just leaped right over him

465
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 2: like a frog and made the catch. And that's what

466
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 2: made him so freaky.

467
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Speaker 1: It's so crazy to think, like you're when you're running

468
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 1: full speed and you got to track a ball, your

469
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 1: eyes are bouncing like that's like some of the first

470
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Speaker 1: things you see, like when from your like off season

471
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Speaker 1: training and you jump into like you know, start competing

472
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 1: against guys, the first thing that you always have to

473
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 1: dial in is the bouncy eyes. My eyes would bouncing.

474
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 1: I'm going like a guy to go full speed and

475
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Speaker 1: be able to concentrate and then like effort, see like

476
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 1: a ballerina, jump off one leg, go back, mass the

477
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: dude over to Like that's that's a freak. He's a freak.

478
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 2: I remember Jules like you used to always bribe Moss

479
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 2: would do it. So I'm doing it so like right

480
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,400
Speaker 2: after the games, like when you landed from an away game,

481
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 2: he will go right to the weight room to get

482
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Speaker 2: his workout in. And you've been Marshall doing it, I'm

483
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,160
Speaker 2: gonna do it. You know, like you copied everything he did,

484
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 2: hey man, But I don't blame you. Man, he's the

485
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 2: greatest of all time.

486
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Speaker 1: I would copy him. Tom didn't when it was around

487
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 1: Copy West Poppy Katlee. Yeah, all right, you loved your dudes.

488
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 2: You love hanging on your dudes. You because one dude

489
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 2: you wanted the dude on.

490
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 1: You become a creature of the dudes you hang around.

491
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 1: That's the truth, you know, you become a dude of

492
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Speaker 1: the dudes.

493
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Speaker 2: That's why keeps on podcasts, you know, because I've been

494
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 2: hanging out with you jewels, and you have your podcast.

495
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 1: So I wanted to part Now it's just dude dribbing

496
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Speaker 1: off on dudes. So we did.

497
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Speaker 2: Randy Moss all right, freak of nature, freak, no doubt.

498
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 2: He's a freak dude, no question.

499
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Speaker 1: All right, let's go into our next bomb, bomp bomb.

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Speaker 2: Sure, we're gonna go for more than ten minutes. We've

501
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 2: already went for more than ten minutes. Who's our next guest, Tom?

502
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 2: I mean, oh wow, all right, who's our next guest, Julian.

503
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: Our next guest is Thomas Edward Patrick Brady. Now, let's

504
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: see what AI has what to say about TV two guys.

505
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 1: I know him pretty well. Let's see if AI knows

506
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 1: him just as well. All right, started the clock. Let's see.

507
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 2: Let's see if AI is really living up to the standards.

508
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 2: Let's see he's everyone's saying, last two, AI, all right,

509
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 2: Tom Brady is a legendary NFL quarterback. Well, they're already

510
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 2: wrong because he's not a legendary NFL quarterback. He was

511
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 2: an NFL legendary quarterback?

512
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Speaker 1: Or is he? Does AI know he's Tom? Ay? I

513
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: know something that we don't know.

514
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 2: You're right, HEYI is living up to the standards. Dolphin

515
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 2: Kyle Shannon Hands still wants them with the Niners, even.

516
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 1: Though maybe AI is up to something. Right now, I.

517
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 2: See he's a renowned for his record seven Super Bowl

518
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 2: victories and five Super Bowl MVP Awards. Off the field,

519
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 2: he is known for his discipline lifestyle.

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00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: Very disciplined. TV twelve method business, venturess, business ventures, a

521
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: lot of business ventures, owns teams, lots of teams, raiders

522
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 1: potentially coming up soon.

523
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 2: And philanthropic efforts, a lot.

524
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Speaker 1: Of giving back to the kids, best buddies for a

525
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: long time.

526
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 2: Yes, and what about the kids he helped become superstars? Yeah,

527
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 2: he helped us out too, were part of that. That

528
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 2: doesn't go that's not fullanthropy, but no, that's his biggest

529
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 2: philanthropy right there. It was definitely okay, helping us kids out.

530
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 2: He helped his a right, a lot, all right, Oh,

531
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 2: including his work with the TB twelve Foundation.

532
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: Which you just mentioned and TV twelve Foundation. Brady's leadership,

533
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: He's a leader resilience, guys, fucking resilient and commitment. Come on, Jules,

534
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: is he committed? This guy has committed like no other

535
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: to excellence.

536
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 2: Have made him an iconic figure?

537
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 1: Is he iconic? Fucking He's got to order the most

538
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: iconic guy's gotta iconic.

539
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 2: Figure both in sports and infinity and beyond. Is an

540
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 2: infinites and beyond. But I added that little bite of

541
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 2: buzz light year, you know, spectacle aspect into it.

542
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Speaker 1: I like that. I like that, but I can't believe a,

543
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 1: I didn't one thing that AI didn't get. This guy's

544
00:25:52,680 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 1: his compartment. His compartmentalization skill is fucking outrageous. That's what

545
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 1: if anyone asked me, like what is he could literally

546
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: have so many things going around, going going on in

547
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 1: his life, but when it was time for work, he

548
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: could blur all that out and think about what that

549
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: workday was and fucking get the most out of that

550
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: workday every day. Which some would say that's like a

551
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 1: serial killer or some kind of maniac mindset. I would say,

552
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Speaker 1: that's like the greatest of all time. Yes, Jules, that's

553
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 1: a great point. I actually never thought of that, and

554
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: that's one hundred percent accurate. And that's actually contributes.

555
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: To why he was so great, is that he could

556
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 2: ignore the noise, whatever is going on out there, whatever

557
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 2: the situation was better, it didn't matter, and he would Yeah,

558
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 2: he would use that anyways he was using as fuel.

559
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 2: It would be diesel fuel, it would be normal, normal fuel,

560
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 2: would be freaking super fuel, it didn't matter.

561
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: Usually a few freaking gas stations have that fuel fill

562
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: up that engine.

563
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 2: And he had diesel engine, he had freaking premium engine.

564
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 2: He had every engine in the book, jet engine, and

565
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 2: that's what made him so great. And he used that

566
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,479
Speaker 2: fuel and he burned all that fuel too.

567
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: This is probably terrible. There's so many he burned so

568
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 1: much fuel that he killed literally so much of the

569
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: ozone layer that he's a fucking hazard to our environment

570
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: because that's how much fuel he burns. With the motivation

571
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: and his compartmentalization factors, that's how much fuel he's burning.

572
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 2: And that and that jet was full go every single time.

573
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 2: You know, when you get on a plane, you're like,

574
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 2: this freaking pilot, better drive this plane or fly this

575
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 2: plane as fast as possible. Well, drive it too freaking

576
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: on the runway to get to the runway to freaking

577
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 2: take off a sap so fly it and drive it

578
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: as fast as possible. That's this guy.

579
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: And he's got headwinds, so you're actually using more fuel. Yeah,

580
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 1: and with the fuel never ran out. The guy has

581
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: fucking airplanes that come out while you're flying. Have you

582
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 1: seen that where they use the fucking piece and while

583
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: they're flying in the air and connecting the limited Yeah,

584
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,479
Speaker 1: that's and that is Alex.

585
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 3: Alex is the little airplane ale Oh man, he just

586
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 3: has so much fuel.

587
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Speaker 1: I mean, oh, that was so good. That was so good.

588
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: There they are, look at there's alex Is froewing time up. Wow. Wow.

589
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: And that's something that happen. And that's a love thing

590
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: out Alex because he.

591
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: Gets him going, keeps them going. Man, Well, let's get

592
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: to some accolades. I mean, first he was he was

593
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: picked one sixth round in the two thousand draft. I mean,

594
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 2: I'm sure everyone knows that by now. He's with the

595
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 2: from two thousand to twenty nineteen, and then with the

596
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: Bucks two thousand to twenty twenty two. And actually I

597
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 2: just got a quiz on him. How many years did

598
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 2: he play in the NFL? And it was right before

599
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 2: I talked to him two weeks ago on Fox, Kurt

600
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 2: Menfie asked me, we played a little live game. Hey,

601
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: how well do you know your teammate Tom Brady goes?

602
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 2: How many more years did Tom Brady play in the

603
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: NFL than you? And I played eleven years? And I

604
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 2: thought Tom Brady played twenty four years. I actually got

605
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: it wrong. He played twenty three years in the NFL.

606
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: So shame on me.

607
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: But it was better to be over on that than

608
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 2: the hit it right on the nose. But that's how

609
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 2: many years he played?

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Speaker 4: Is that?

611
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Speaker 1: I just know it was so many I couldn't even

612
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: keep track anymore. He played eleven years more years.

613
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 2: Than he played, eleven years more than you, in twelve

614
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 2: years more than me. That is fucking I played twelve

615
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: I played eleven years in the NFL, and he played

616
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: more years in the NFL that I put in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: He that without me? That makes sense? Yeah, yeah, like

618
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: if you I don't know what that's called, but that's

619
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: a math term.

620
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's called the whole. That's called goat.

621
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: That's fucking goat, goyoat. Yeah, that's called jet fuel. Alex's

622
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: jet fuel. Alex's jet fuel. Yeah. What was the first

623
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: time you met Tom?

624
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: The first time I met Tom was actually what was

625
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: pretty wild when I was at the University of Arizona.

626
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: You know, I was doing my interview. I had a

627
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 2: couple of touchdowns that game. I was showing off my

628
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 2: touchdown celebrations, and then the lady interviewing me, she's like,

629
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Speaker 2: who do you see being your quarterback in the NFL,

630
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 2: And obviously, right on the spot, I go, Tom Brady

631
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 2: would be the best quarterback to have in the NFL,

632
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 2: and especially a great fit for me, and that was

633
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: just the answer, you know. And then I did my

634
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: touchdown dances and all that, and then what happens. I

635
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 2: get drafted to the Patriots and Tom Brady becomes my quarterback.

636
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: In the NFL.

637
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: It was like I manifested it when I was in college.

638
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 2: I manifested a lot of things. And if you have Tom,

639
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: Tom's probably really big into manifesting his mat He manifested

640
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 2: all his Super Bowls because right after he won a

641
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, he would already have a clock counting down

642
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 2: to the next next. So he was manifesting like crazy.

643
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 2: You just learned so much knowledge from him, and he's

644
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: done so many things right to be able to get to,

645
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: uh you know, nature of where he is now. It

646
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: wasn't like he just had the athletic ability. He showed up.

647
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: He did everything right and he put the time in

648
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 2: that you can never argue against him, can't.

649
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: You can't be So let's get let's get back to

650
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: what was I talking about again? I don't know. I

651
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: just got. Yeah.

652
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: I got At the first time I met him, it

653
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: was in the training room. I was getting my ankles

654
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: taped and he walked in, So I was there already

655
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: for the rookie camps, the rookie practices, and he just

656
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: walks up to me. He goes, hey, Rob, I'm Tom Brady,

657
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh wow, this guy already knows

658
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: my name. I mean, that's also what makes him so

659
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 2: great as well, is that he already knows all the

660
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: rookies name, all the guys that were drafted, what rounds

661
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 2: they were drafted in, what type of player they already were,

662
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: because he wants to know, you know, their athletic ability,

663
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 2: you know what type of guy they are, so he

664
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: can understand them so he can be on the same

665
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: page as events out of them, so he can get

666
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: the best out of them as well, like you said,

667
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 2: and he could have that connection to help win games,

668
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 2: so he can be on the same you know, wavelength

669
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: as them. So he already knew my name, came up

670
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:23,959
Speaker 2: to me, and I just thought it was the coolest thing.

671
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: Man. I just said, hey, man, nice to meet you.

672
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: It was just super quick he left. What did you

673
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: think in your head?

674
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 2: And Tom Brady knew my name and that was the

675
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 2: greatest honor to shake his hand while getting my ankles taped.

676
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: And then he goes wins four super Bowls with them.

677
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I had a similar story. Yeah, what was

678
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: it like when you met him? What? What was that story?

679
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: I was going from, Like you said, we were already

680
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: in there. When you're a rookie, you get in there before.

681
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: Back in our day, you get in there before the

682
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: vets reported. And so you'd be there for like three weeks,

683
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: did rookie camp and learning installations of everything. And so

684
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: I had a big book. We all had these books.

685
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: It was like a five inch Remember those old old

686
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: binders before we had iPads. We used to have big

687
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: old binders. I didn't like carrying them around. I left

688
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: mine in my locker when I went home.

689
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, even though you were supposed to bring it home

690
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: to study, I was like, I ain't carrying that binder.

691
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: I used to carry it. You did I do? I

692
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: was trying to make you. So I'm over here, getting

693
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: five minutes before the special Teams meeting. It's true, and

694
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: I'm running through and the Vets came in. And I

695
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: saw the vets coming because I saw well in the

696
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: in the cafeteria. Didn't say a word to me. I

697
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: was but I wanted to big, big time A little

698
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: bit had a leather jacket. He looks cool.

699
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 2: He looks like when you guys big time each other,

700
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: it's entertainment for me. All right back to time though.

701
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: And so I knew they were in but I was

702
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: going to my meeting and he walks through the door,

703
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: you know, the entrance of the locker room from the hall.

704
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: He walks in there and he goes, I like, look

705
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: at him. I drop my book. I'm like, oh shit,

706
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: this dude is taller than I thought. And he goes, hey,

707
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: I'm Tom. I go Jules. He goes, I know we

708
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: have the same agent. Dragon's my agent too, or something

709
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: something like that. And I was like, nice to meet you,

710
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: and you could I felt the same way you felt, like, damn,

711
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: he knew my name. That's fucking crazy. But he knew

712
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: that he knew everyone's name, and he made everyone feel special,

713
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: and that that was part of his leadership skill, you know,

714
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: like what made him such an unbelievable leader, from the

715
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: meal ladies to you know, the people in the equipment room,

716
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: the training staff, Like it didn't matter what was going on,

717
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: how the day went, he was always a pretty cool

718
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: dude to everyone, and everyone was always watching him. You

719
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And that's when you're the quarterback

720
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: of the team. Everyone no matter what is going on

721
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: in your life, is watching that person and to see

722
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: how they react to everything, the success, the failure. Your

723
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: eyes go to that guy, you know. And he was

724
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: the perfect guy for us, especially when we were young knuckleheads,

725
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: to look at, like, all right, this is how you

726
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: have to do it. He gave you the example and

727
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: and he was just a fucking.

728
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 2: He gave us the blueprint on how to become a reliable, talented,

729
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 2: you know player that you needed to be to help

730
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 2: the team win games. He gave us the blueprint on

731
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 2: how to become a star out there on the field.

732
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 2: He gave us the blueprint on how to make plays,

733
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 2: how to go out there and have that mindset ready

734
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: to go, and also be mentally and physically ready at

735
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: all times on the practice field and on the game field.

736
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that. And he didn't just give

737
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 2: you a blueprint. He showed you the way too.

738
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: Showed you.

739
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 2: Yes, he showed you, Hey, this is where I want

740
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 2: you on this route. This is when you need to

741
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 2: look at me. This is where the ball is going

742
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: to change you. Yes, He trained you to be like that.

743
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: Oh wait, oh, wait, oh you want to take a break.

744
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 2: Hey man, I'm telling you you're and will let you

745
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 2: go farther. Let's go four more routes, let's go. You

746
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: got to be able to be on the same page

747
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: as me.

748
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: You got to be right here.

749
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: Be more physical, Be more physical. You're bigger than everyone.

750
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: Run his ass over and turn around and the ball

751
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 2: will be there, I promise you. And if you don't

752
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 2: hit that guy, if you're not physical, guess what, the

753
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 2: ball is not going to come to you. He would

754
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: just lay it out just like that. His leadership was

755
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 2: just what's that word where it's just brutally honest? Yes,

756
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 2: brutally honest. And that's what made him so great too.

757
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: So like with him, that's what he always harped to

758
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: gronk with me. I remember in those because a lot

759
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: of times we would get that coaching in the offseason,

760
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: when he would go fly out somewhere we would throw together,

761
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: you know, because there's times where you would do it.

762
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: There was times that I would do it. He would

763
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 1: always try to get his throes in with his guys,

764
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: and for me, he'd always come up to me and like, hey,

765
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: I need you to be here. I need you to

766
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: be like a boxer. You know you can't. You can't

767
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: be You can't just do what the thing shows you

768
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: on the paper. You have to feel it out. You

769
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: got to set things up with your jab and then

770
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: you use your right. You know, it's like a box.

771
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: You got to be more savvy in your route running.

772
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: That's I remember you saying that. And then he'd always say, like,

773
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: you got to run like a fucking you got to

774
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: be able to run. You got to be able to

775
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: run all day. And like you said, when you were tired,

776
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: we would do those sets of routes. He'd make you

777
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: do three or four extra ones and he would say

778
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: you'd line up and you would you think that the

779
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: drill was done, and he would say, oh, there is

780
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: offsides on a penalty on your teammates, or there was

781
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: a holding call or PI, or we got to redo it.

782
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: And he knew you were dog dead, but he wanted

783
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: to see. He wanted to get everything out of you

784
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: when you were on empty. He wanted to see what

785
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: kind of guy you were, and he wanted to show you.

786
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,959
Speaker 1: That's what he expected in game time.

787
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: And a word that you could have used in there

788
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: as well. That kind of sums it up a little bit,

789
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: as he loved a decisive route, run decisive, decisive. He

790
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: didn't care if the paper said run ten yards and

791
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 2: run out. He didn't care one bit. He cared about

792
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: being decisive on the practice field and taking that decisiveness

793
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: and bringing it to the game field.

794
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 1: He goes, Hey, if you're going to run.

795
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: Twelve yards even though it's a ten yard route, or

796
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: if you're gonna run eight yards and it's gonna be

797
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 2: a little short, just be decisive. Let me know when

798
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 2: you're gonna break out. Let me know when you're gonna

799
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: break down, so I can get that ball out and

800
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 2: I can read you. I don't need you to have

801
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 2: fifteen steps where you're slow. I think you're going to

802
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 2: go to the left and then you go to the

803
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 2: right side. No, be decisive, and if you're decisive, I

804
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: will find you and that ball will be out and.

805
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: It will be right on point. That's what he said.

806
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: What's the biggest misconception of him? You think the biggest

807
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:45,439
Speaker 1: misconception of Tom Brady? I think he said he's cool.

808
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: Is that, Yeah, he is cool. No, I think that's

809
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: the biggest misconception. He's not that cool depends. That's the

810
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: misconception right there, because he's cool. When he's comfortable, he's cool.

811
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: But no, if he's comfortable in the situation, I think

812
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: he's not cool when he's comfortable. I think when he's

813
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: around us, he's kind of like a dork.

814
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit.

815
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: And then when I mean to everyone else he's the

816
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: coolest guy, which I still think he's the coolest guy ever.

817
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 1: But then when you have him around, You're like, he's

818
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: really kind of a dork.

819
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: There's some situations where you know, if if he's comfortable,

820
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 2: he's more himself, yes, yes, and he's more like you know,

821
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 2: like like dad Jo, Like if he knows all the

822
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 2: cameras are shut off, like he can finally.

823
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: Just have something to be Tom. Yeah, he's kind of dorky. Okay, okay,

824
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: I like, but you need a little dorky in your

825
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: your quarterback.

826
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: You do.

827
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: Mostly all quarterbacks are a little dorky.

828
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 2: And that's what makes some quarterbacks, I mean, not all

829
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: of them, but I'm saying it's kind of like just

830
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: a trait what quarterbacks have, but a little bit, just

831
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 2: a little bit in them he is cool, but he's

832
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 2: a little dorky.

833
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: But you just said he's not cool. No, I said

834
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: the biggest misconception. He's cool. He always keeps a chip

835
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: on his shoulder always always. That's work.

836
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 2: I think everyone knows this work ethic.

837
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: I know, but I'm just giving some facts about him.

838
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 1: What else is a misconception?

839
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 2: Mmmm, that he's not clutch no's that's not even a misconception.

840
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 2: Everyone knows he's clutched. I just wanted to try to

841
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 2: throw you off, jewels.

842
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: How about this guy also played baseball and got drafted, Yeah,

843
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: by the Expos Montreal. No wonder why he didn't go

844
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: and play baseball the Expos. I mean they have a

845
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: cool hat, they do, got cool colors. They're gone though

846
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: they're not even there.

847
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: No, So, I mean that's why he didn't want to

848
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 2: go there. He's like, oh man, my legacy. I go there,

849
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 2: the team's going to be gone. That means I'm going

850
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: to be gone. I want to last forever. I'll go

851
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 2: to the New England Patriots instead. Yeah, he was in

852
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 2: high school when he got drafted. He went to the

853
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 2: same He went to the same Now he was going

854
00:40:58,719 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 2: to the Patriots.

855
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, he went to that I remember, well, we grew

856
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 1: up in the same area, so he went to the

857
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: same high school as Lynn Swan, Barry Bonds. There's like

858
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: so many really good athletes to come out of that

859
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: freaking school, Sarah, it's all boys school. What what was

860
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: the moment that Tom made you the most annoyed? Oh

861
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 1: my god, when I would return punts, Like I remember

862
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: my rookie year. It was the freaking preseason game. It

863
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: was my first punt return and there was a repunt

864
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: and I ended up housing the second one, but the

865
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 1: first one. I see Tom on the sideline and he's

866
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: got a little anxiety because it's his first game from

867
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: his knee. So he's like he was like coaching me

868
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: up on how to return a punt. He's like, just

869
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: get up there, just get up there. I'm sitting there

870
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at him, like, fuck, this guy. This

871
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: guy has never done this. He does not know what

872
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: I'm feeling right now. I was so annoyed with him.

873
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: And then then they repunted it and I housed it

874
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: and I fucking slammed the ball against the thing. I

875
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: was fired up, and I was like, I was so

876
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: annoyed with them like this guy is he's never felt

877
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: what it fills when the guys are running full This

878
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: is new to me. I never felt it either at

879
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: the time, so I like, fuck this guy, Let me

880
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: do what I gotta do. It is not a run.

881
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: And I was so annoyed with them. I'll tell you

882
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: mine what was yours.

883
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 2: When I was a rookie, and I couldn't get outside

884
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,439
Speaker 2: of the defender on a flag route, which is flag rout,

885
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 2: which is a corner route, so you run about ten

886
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 2: twelve yards and you know, you give a little stick

887
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: and you break it forty five degrees and run a

888
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: corner route, and the defender was always outside of me,

889
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: sitting at like squatting at ten yards, and he's always says,

890
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,479
Speaker 2: get outside. If you have a flag route corner route,

891
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 2: you gotta get outside of the defender or else I

892
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 2: will never throw you the freaking ball.

893
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: So I was a rookie.

894
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 2: I was kind of like clunky. So I wasn't really

895
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 2: that athletic as a rookie. You know, I wasn't running

896
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 2: routside right, yea double day's and yeah, I was tired

897
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 2: as well. I couldn't get outside, and in practice I

898
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 2: didn't get outside of the guy. He's like two three

899
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 2: yards outside of me too, and I'm trying to fake

900
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 2: him like I'm going inside and trying to get around

901
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 2: him on the corner and Brady just turns around in

902
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: the meeting because it's on film, and he turns around.

903
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 2: He goes, Gronk, I'm fucking done throwing you the ball.

904
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: I told you fifty times to get outside. You're not

905
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: getting outside. And like I got all sad and alge

906
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 2: Crumper started patting my leg and he's like, it's okay, Gronk,

907
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 2: he doesn't mean it.

908
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah he does, alg Man, he

909
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: means it.

910
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 2: And let me tell you this time, you fucking throw

911
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 2: me the ball like a thousand times after so I

912
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 2: knew he was all bullshit. I'm telling me he was

913
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 2: never gonna throw me the ball again. I was literally

914
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 2: like but that fired me up. I was like, all right,

915
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: I'm gonna show this guy. But that's the leadership he had.

916
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 2: He was brutally honest and he would freaking get you

917
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 2: to go to the next level, which was crazy, which

918
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 2: was crazy. He was so good at it, but I

919
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: was so annoyed because I couldn't get outside the guy.

920
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, I want to Big Tom, run the freaking route.

921
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 2: I guarantee you can't get outside the guy either. He's

922
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 2: three hours outside of me. And then if I got

923
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 2: outside him, it was basically like an out route I

924
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 2: was running because I would have to flatten it so

925
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 2: much so I couldn't really run the corner route.

926
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: And you get in the other responsibility to the other guy, Well,

927
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: he just wanted to get a defender in practice, he's

928
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 1: playing the play, yeah.

929
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 2: And then and he knew the place. He just wanted

930
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 2: to get the point across, ye like. So it was

931
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 2: just always in my memory, and every time I ran

932
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 2: a route, it was kind of just like on autopilot,

933
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 2: just to get outside of the defender. So I was

934
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: annoyed at that, and you know, with that situation, but uh,

935
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 2: you know, times of change. I started running routes where

936
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 2: I would go inside the guy and then he would

937
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 2: still throw me the ball as well later on, because

938
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: he's like, all right, he proved, he proved.

939
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: It enough that you can do it. Well, then you

940
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: guys start throwing the back shoulder shit. Yeah, And then

941
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: we started doing all that. Also. I also used to

942
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: get really annoyed when in meeting rooms, if he liked you,

943
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: and I felt both of these. I felt when he

944
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: liked the guy, he'd like he would like love them up.

945
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: And then there'd be so like when when Wes was there.

946
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: I get so annoyed when I would do the exact

947
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 1: same thing that Wes would do and he he wouldn't

948
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: think it was good, and I would get so fucking

949
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: annoyed with him. But I remember when West left, then

950
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: I was that guy. There was guys doing trying to

951
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: do that what I would do, and he wouldn't. So

952
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: like I would get annoyed with that so much when

953
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: he would always bring up, like, babe, just do it

954
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: a little more like Wessey. He called him Wessy. When

955
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: he called him Wessy, Remember Wessy, Hm, I used to

956
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: get so annoyed.

957
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 2: You want to know what I would get annoyed with

958
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: him too. It's like we're in the off season. We

959
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: just ran fifty routes. It's like you and I out there,

960
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 2: only we're dead tired. It's ninety degrees outside, middle of

961
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 2: the summer, and he'd be like one more, just one

962
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: more route, because he's just throwing the ball. His arm

963
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 2: can throw one hundred and fifty passes a day, and

964
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 2: we're running the freaking fifty routes and he's been one more,

965
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 2: so then we would run, run more. We give it

966
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 2: all all. We're about to throw up. It's middle of

967
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: the summer. We probably are hungover. He has no clue

968
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: what that's like because he used to He used to, yeah,

969
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 2: and then he became lame. Yeah, he became lame for

970
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 2: like a couple.

971
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: Of years now.

972
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: He back in the day, I guess he wasn't lame.

973
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: If you're saying he's not lame, he was lame. Okay,

974
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 2: say it, Jules.

975
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: You know he was lame. Yeah, like when it came

976
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: when it came to that, he was lame. But we

977
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 1: didn't get him when he was young. Yeah, I know.

978
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: He was already thirty three when I first met him,

979
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 2: and then when I were thirty, freaking lame at thirty

980
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 2: three years old, complaint. Compare it to when I was

981
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 2: freaking twenty one, twenty eight years old.

982
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: You're right, because then he was twenty three, twenty four.

983
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: He was the there's you know, he was the best

984
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: chugger on the team. He was like he was a

985
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: dude's dude. So back to the story, like he'd be

986
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: one more and then you would.

987
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 2: You would run one more route and they'd beck one

988
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 2: more and then you just be like, Tom, I'm not

989
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,439
Speaker 2: off and running one more. I just ran fifty routes,

990
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 2: you know, one more, but one more you want to

991
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: get better?

992
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: One more.

993
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 2: And then it'd be like fifteen more routes and then

994
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: finally it was the last one and it.

995
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: Was fifty and then you get to seventy five. He's

996
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: like he just wanted seventy five throws. Yeah he was

997
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: seven five throws. Whatever Tom says, you do, you gotta,

998
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: you got your son. I remember those days, man. That

999
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: what made us great? Though.

1000
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 2: What was the moment that, like you felt like you

1001
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 2: truly gained his trust and that he could rely on

1002
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 2: you even if you mess up again.

1003
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: He knows that you're still reliable. You know what I'm saying.

1004
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:17,479
Speaker 1: What was that moment?

1005
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 2: What was that catch? What was that play if it

1006
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: was a practice or if it was left well, because

1007
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 2: he loved he loved West. You just were not playing

1008
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 2: when Wes was Okay, Jules, no, but you couldn't have

1009
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 2: Tom Brady's trust.

1010
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: When you were when you were on when West left,

1011
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:33,240
Speaker 1: you didn't like a bunch of players.

1012
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 2: Okay, he didn't like it.

1013
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: It was when he left he had no one. He

1014
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 1: had to trust me. You had all right, and then

1015
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: it was weird. It was weak one in thirteen where

1016
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: we played Buffalo and we went out there and we won.

1017
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: I had two touchdowns and and that's when I felt

1018
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: like all right, because we had some We had some

1019
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: spurts where you know, West would we get banged up

1020
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: and he wouldn't play, being like, trust me, trust me

1021
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: until you had to be the guy, until you had

1022
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: to be the guy. Yes, and then he truly trusted you.

1023
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: And that's the situation.

1024
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 2: Though he doesn't really trust a guy that you know, yeah,

1025
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 2: he's not able to throw to. He's got to see

1026
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: eighteen times a practice, you know, he has to see it.

1027
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 2: He has to do the repetitions with you in order

1028
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 2: to truly gain your trust. And it doesn't happen overnight.

1029
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 2: Now he gained your trust and you gain his trust

1030
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 2: as well, you know, just over time, over time. I

1031
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 2: would say my situation was when we played the Chicago

1032
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 2: Bears on the one on one panther route when I

1033
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 2: was going over in the snow yeah, versus Brian or Lacker,

1034
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 2: and he wanted to gain my trust. He wants to

1035
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 2: see me be physical. That's why he always emphasized me,

1036
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 2: be fucking physical. Gronk your two hundred and sixty pounds

1037
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: you're going versus one hundred eighty pounders or linebackers that

1038
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 2: you're still bigger than Be physical and h This was

1039
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: the playpanther out one out run. I run into the

1040
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,720
Speaker 2: end zone, kind of hit the guy with my shoulder

1041
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 2: and then turn around and the ball will be right there.

1042
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 2: Because when you're physical, you know, pushes the guy back

1043
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 2: a little bit. When you use your shoulder, you turn around,

1044
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 2: then there's that little ounce of separation and Tom can

1045
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 2: see that. He can see the field. He can see

1046
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 2: all the separation in the world, hes it, he sees it.

1047
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 2: He can see every little detail that's going out on

1048
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: the field. And when he sees that little detail on

1049
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 2: that route, you know, with the physicality, knows he knows

1050
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 2: that you're going to be open.

1051
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a little window.

1052
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 2: I hit Brian Urlack and we practice it, and that

1053
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 2: Friday he says, I want to see that in the

1054
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 2: game because I ran it great on Friday. So the

1055
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 2: game comes when I won versus Brian Lacer give him

1056
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 2: the shoulder turn right around the balls, right there, nice

1057
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 2: and low where it's always supposed to be in the

1058
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 2: red zone.

1059
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: Boom, catch it.

1060
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 2: And ever since then I gained Tom Brady's trust right

1061
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 2: there and then on the spot, which was.

1062
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: One of the greatest moments of my career. Yeah, I

1063
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: remember that he is you know, he had to see it.

1064
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: That's what makes him. He's a dog man. He's assassin.

1065
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: He is an assassin. What's your favorite Tone memory?

1066
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 2: My favorite Tom memory is actually, this is one of

1067
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 2: my favorite memories of all time. You know, when we

1068
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 2: were playing the Indianapolis Colts and I ran that five

1069
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 2: yard out route, caught it versus d Kwel Jackson. I

1070
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 2: did a little spin move, he kind of fell, did

1071
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 2: a little split.

1072
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: It was like, very great route by me. Great after

1073
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: the catch too. And then I'm running, you know, I'm going.

1074
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 2: There's a couple other guys and here comes Julian adamman

1075
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 2: Ka Boom just absolutely levels Adams.

1076
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: The safety, you know, gets them out of my way.

1077
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, thanks Jules for the block, you know, and

1078
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 2: then I'm running into the end zone. I jump over Butler.

1079
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, dB, yeah, DBI.

1080
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 2: What's his first name again, Yeah, Darius Butler, who was

1081
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 2: previously on the on the Patriots and then he went

1082
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 2: to the Colts and now he's doing he's doing a

1083
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 2: great job in the media. Yeah, it was a McAfee show.

1084
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 2: He's doing a great job. So shout out to Darius Butler.

1085
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 2: But I jumped over his ass. Made me look goods

1086
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 2: flipped into the end zone. I looked like an athletic

1087
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty pound wide receiver. And then this

1088
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 2: was the moment, one of my favorite moments with him.

1089
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 2: Tom loved the route, loved the catch, loved your block.

1090
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: He was so pumped up.

1091
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 2: He ran full speed from the thirty guy line and

1092
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 2: probably because I got him a touchdown on a play

1093
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: where it never should have been a touchdown. Yeah, and

1094
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 2: he came running full speed and jumped on my back

1095
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 2: and went for a ride.

1096
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: Man. He was. He was like a pony on a horse. Man.

1097
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: I brought him for a ride. Man.

1098
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 2: I was carrying Tom Brady around in the freaking end zone.

1099
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 1: He was. He was on my back.

1100
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 2: Put the pony on the horse. I was waiting for

1101
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 2: him to drop that quarter in so the rock can

1102
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 2: keep on going. Yes, I didn't want him to get off.

1103
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 2: I was like, Tom Brady's on my back, like like,

1104
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 2: what else do I need in my life? Oh my god. Yeah,

1105
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 2: And it's one of my favorite pictures to sign to

1106
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 2: this day as well. I don't think he ever signed it.

1107
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 2: It costs like five billion dollars to get him to

1108
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 2: sign a picture. So like I always signed the picture

1109
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 2: on my back and like I'm waiting for that picture

1110
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 2: to be worth a lot more money once he signs it.

1111
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 1: The couple, you know. But he hasn't signed it yet.

1112
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 2: Man.

1113
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: That was a fucking fun play. That was a fun play.

1114
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,720
Speaker 1: Thank you for that block. Oh you level Adams. Adams,

1115
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: he's talking in the safety was the battle he was

1116
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: with Denver battle. He battled us a lot. Man. He

1117
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:22,720
Speaker 1: brought it, He brought it to and he wasn't scared.

1118
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: He was good. Yeah, there it is.

1119
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 2: There's a picture right there. Oh wait, he signed there

1120
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 2: it is. Man, he's going for a ride. I'm still

1121
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: waiting for those corners.

1122
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 1: Tom. Oh my gosh, there's.

1123
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 2: Tim Wright right in the back too. We won the

1124
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 2: Super Bowl this year, didn't we And we won a

1125
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 2: super Bowl this year. Yeah, yeah, I think it was

1126
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 2: who Man was was a tight end as well in

1127
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 2: the two tim right and who Man?

1128
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: I love who Man? All right, what was your favorite memory, Jules?

1129
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: My favorite memory was when we it it kind of

1130
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: that fourteen when he, uh, we hit that route. He

1131
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: came up to me afterwards and he and he goes,

1132
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: that was a championship route, man, and like it was

1133
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: nothing crazy, that's special. And he when he you know,

1134
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: he goes, that was a championship play man. And we

1135
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: didn't win the game.

1136
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 2: Yet right now because him saying that's a championship route,

1137
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 2: that's a championship play.

1138
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: That means a lot. Yeah, And and then afterwards when

1139
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 1: he we won, you know, like that was his That

1140
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: was when he got four and I just remember, you know,

1141
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: there were so many memories of him, like you said,

1142
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: how he's having the ticker of the super Bowl location

1143
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: and the whole story where I said, man, I'm gonna

1144
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: help you try to get to Joe. And because we

1145
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 1: were both Bay Area fans, love Joe Montana and I

1146
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: told me he was the greatest quarterback of all time,

1147
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: and you know that all that was just a fun

1148
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: memory there's so many it's it's hard to fucking do

1149
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: one kind of all right, I mean I'm gonna start.

1150
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: I know me too.

1151
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 2: There's there's a lot of memories with Tom. It's just

1152
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 2: great to see him. He's doing so good in the

1153
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 2: broadcasting booth. I mean, if he just puts in ten

1154
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 2: percent of the effort that he did with the game

1155
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 2: of football in his after career, in his post career

1156
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 2: after football, he's gonna.

1157
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: Have the whole world just which you know he is

1158
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: to eat from.

1159
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 2: He's gonna be successful and anything that he does, and

1160
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 2: that's what he's gonna do. He's actually gonna go one

1161
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 2: hundred percent all in with what he does. He's great

1162
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 2: in the booth, like I said, and he's been improving

1163
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 2: so much every single week and it just shows he

1164
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 2: is actually a human. I mean, Week one, he was good,

1165
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 2: he got the win, but he definitely could improve. And

1166
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden Week two and three, You're like,

1167
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 2: what the heck? How did he just go from being

1168
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 2: like a rookie quarterback to a veteran quarterback in one

1169
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 2: week in the broadcast booth. So just shout out to him.

1170
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 2: I mean, he dedicates himself, and he works on his

1171
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 2: craft like like no one ever has before.

1172
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: And that's what makes him, you know, the greatest, the

1173
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: greatest at ever. He cares about making the people look

1174
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: right that give him opportunity. He does. That's he cares

1175
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: about that.

1176
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 2: He takes it to heart, and he cares about showing

1177
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 2: the people that has passed on him that they fucked

1178
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 2: up too.

1179
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, he loves that. He likes that. So don't ever

1180
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: pass on Tom Brady. No, I won't. The only thing

1181
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: I'll pass on is that I was kind of a

1182
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: little hesitant when I said he was lame, But he

1183
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: was pretty lame except for when he wins a Super

1184
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: Bowl in Tampa Bay and he gets hammered on a

1185
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: damn boat. Like, where was that fucking Tom around us?

1186
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: I was bullshit, like I was waiting for that the

1187
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: whole entire time in New England.

1188
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 4: I was.

1189
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 2: That's why I went to Tampa Bay. I went there

1190
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 2: for that moment. I didn't really want to play football again.

1191
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 2: I just wanted that moment that I could actually get

1192
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 2: wasted with Tom. But guess what, he was on a

1193
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 2: separate boat than me. I didn't even see him at

1194
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 2: the at that boat, right, So guess what, I still

1195
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 2: never had a drink with Tom. It took me all

1196
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 2: the way until the Roast to have a drink with

1197
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 2: Tom Brady. And that's why it was in the roast.

1198
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 2: I said, Tom, I never had a shot with you

1199
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 2: ever in my life or a drink, and he took

1200
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 2: a shot with me at the roast. So that was

1201
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 2: that was a cool moment. Yeah, well, I mean it's

1202
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 2: been thirty three minutes. How long can we talk about

1203
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 2: this guy? I think maybe we should have him on

1204
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 2: again for another episode because I got literally I can

1205
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 2: talk about this guy all day long. I could go

1206
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 2: literally two hours. The more we talk about him, the

1207
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 2: more stories that pop up in my head. Same, the

1208
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 2: more stories about him on the field, off the field,

1209
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 2: what it's like to be around him. We could talk

1210
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 2: literally for four hours straight. Jewels, what kind of du

1211
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 2: tell me what time of well? What type of dude

1212
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 2: is Tom Brady? Ladies and gentlemen, I think he is.

1213
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: I think this is easy, freak dog whiz. I think

1214
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: this is easy dude. Dude, I don't know what do

1215
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: you think?

1216
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 2: If it's easy, let's hear what.

1217
00:56:53,640 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: Let's see, he's a fucking dog He is a dog mental, physical, toughness,

1218
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: always motivated. He didn't have the pedigree he was he was.

1219
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 1: We saw the Brady six of the the six guys

1220
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: before him taking in the draft. Like he always had

1221
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: to go to long road. He always had to work

1222
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 1: for everything. Even when he was at his top, they

1223
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: were always talking about someone else. He's a fucking dog.

1224
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 2: I want to say freak, because a freak is like

1225
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 2: someone that has like the most athletic ability in the world.

1226
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 2: And he didn't really have the most athletic ability. But

1227
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 2: what's made him so great was that he didn't need

1228
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 2: the athletic ability because the dog was working harder than

1229
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 2: the athletic dog. You know that wasn't the freak dog

1230
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 2: that really or the freaky person that wasn't really working.

1231
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: I think he's got illness like shooting, like basically like

1232
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: it's kind of.

1233
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 2: Like an archer freak instincts.

1234
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: He could throw, Yes, he could throw rocks really good.

1235
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: He could probably skip a rock really really really has

1236
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,479
Speaker 1: he probably really got a pool Yeah, like King Pong

1237
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: king Pom what I I Yeah, you always beat him?

1238
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: Never mind, he's not going.

1239
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he gets really mad when he loves that's a dog.

1240
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: That is a dog. That's a dog. He wants to

1241
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: want to go gun now wants to go. Guy, he won't.

1242
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: He wants to go again. Won't let you fucking leave.

1243
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 2: I mean, we haven't even got to This guy's looks

1244
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 2: got either. I mean we can just say that he's

1245
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,479
Speaker 2: a stud real quick, just because of how good he looks.

1246
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he looks younger than when. Yeah, he

1247
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: got in the NFL. Like his chins, jawline freaking, just

1248
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: his beautiful blue eyes.

1249
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 2: I posted a picture that day on Instagram, like he's

1250
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 2: got like a six pack now, like his arms are jacked, Like.

1251
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 1: I mean, he's doing two days. He is doing to days.

1252
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,439
Speaker 1: He's doing two days right now. He's got his body,

1253
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 1: he's still. So that's why maybe Ai was fucking right.

1254
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: He's maybe coming back. AI is is Tom Brady coming back?

1255
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1256
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: He got six pack, he got a little his hair

1257
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: is looking as brown as ever. He gave me this

1258
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: supplement that he saw my great hair. And he goes,

1259
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: babe here and he's take this fucking uisha I think

1260
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: it's like uisha ou or something in some Chinese medicine

1261
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: and you.

1262
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 2: Put it in the shake and her hair is already growing.

1263
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: It is my hair darker.

1264
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,479
Speaker 2: That's why I don't have a hat show. I wanted

1265
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 2: to show off my hair because I've got oh, we

1266
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 2: shall product.

1267
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 1: It's like I don't know how to pronounce it'h ooh oushi.

1268
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: I got hair it whatever it is. Look at how

1269
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: good his hair looks. It's just good looking guy. Man.

1270
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: He's a dog, all right, He's a dog. He is

1271
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: a dog.

1272
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 2: It's official. Tom Brady is a dog.

1273
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: Man. We can talk about him forever. We'll be right

1274
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: back after this quick break. What dude, do we have

1275
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: this moment? Here we go AI summary.

1276
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 2: Oh, we have a coach here at Jules coach this

1277
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 2: NFL coach and former player Sands that's six foot four

1278
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 2: inches tall. That's two inches shorter than me and weighs

1279
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty one pounds out of eight pounds.

1280
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: Less than me.

1281
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 2: Jules versus seventy eight eight pounds, he's too sixty one.

1282
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 2: Here's two sixty one plus eight sixty nine. Yes, I'm

1283
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 2: two sixty nine, so I'm eight pounds more than this coach.

1284
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 2: A versa towle linebacker who played for the Pittsburgh Steelers,

1285
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 2: New England Patriots, and Kansas City Chiefs.

1286
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: Can you guess who this is? Yet? I know it

1287
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: is it? After being drafted in the third round in

1288
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven, ninety seven, he's so old. I was

1289
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 1: like eight years old then I was like eleven.

1290
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 2: He won three Super Bowls with the Patriots and in

1291
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 2: first team All Pro honors in two thousand and seven,

1292
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Speaker 2: known for his tough, physical play and leadership.

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01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: On the field.

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01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 2: Well, that kind of translates to while he's a coach

1295
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:49,919
Speaker 2: now and while also moonlighting as a goal line tight end.

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01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: Goals like tight end more touchdowns than me, I think

1297
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: in the.

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01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, but not overall. Growing up in Akron, Ohio,

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01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 2: oh so he has some roots with you, man, He

1300
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 2: has Ohio guys. He played college football at the Ohio

1301
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 2: State University. After retiring as a player, he transitioned to coaching,

1302
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 2: serving as a head coach in the NFL for six

1303
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 2: seasons before taking on his current role as a head

1304
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 2: coach of.

1305
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: The New England Patriots. There we go, ladies and gentlemen,

1306
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: and this dude, let's get on Mike Rabel.

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01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 2: Mike Rabel, Ladies, Hey, Jules what's the first thing you

1308
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 2: think of when you hear the name Mike Rabel.

1309
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: The first thing that comes to my mind is just

1310
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: a tough guy. He's just a tough how tough like

1311
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: And actually the first thing comes in my mind as

1312
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: an asshole asshole because he's just here, I mean, a

1313
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: tough asshole, A tough asshole. Okay, there we go. We

1314
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: never played with Rabes, but because of how legendary he.

1315
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 2: Only heard stories, the stories.

1316
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: We're all he's about like three people, Rabel, Bruski, and Izzo,

1317
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: and like Rabes was always at the helm of these

1318
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: crazy stories that just floated around the Patriots locker room,

1319
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 1: busting balls. That comes to my head, like I always,

1320
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: you always kind of remember hearing how Rabes would get

1321
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: on to Brady and and Brady would get on Rabes

1322
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: and those those wars that practice. What's the first thing

1323
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: that comes to your mind? A tough soob.

1324
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 2: You know, a football player, a guy that has knowledge

1325
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 2: of the game as a player and as a coach,

1326
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 2: and he's from Ohio and let me tell you, Ohio

1327
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 2: football is underrated. And you learn a lot about you know,

1328
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 2: football and who you are, you know as a person,

1329
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 2: as Well, when you grow up in the state of Ohio.

1330
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 1: How do I know that?

1331
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 2: Because I played my senior year in Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh

1332
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 2: was a big rival. Just the state of Pennsylvania was

1333
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 2: a big rival to the state of Ohio, and you

1334
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 2: got the Pittsburgh versus Ohio, you know whatever that you know,

1335
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 2: all Star games and uh just have you know, just

1336
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 2: our tough, tough players come out of you know, come

1337
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 2: out of the state Ohio and Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: They're very similar.

1339
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 2: They're kind of underrated compared to you know, you always

1340
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 2: hear about Florida, California, or Texas. All that's where all

1341
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 2: the starts, all the tough guys come from, you know,

1342
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 2: the Upper East, you know, in the US like Ohio, Pennsylvania,

1343
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 2: New York.

1344
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 1: But uh, he's he's a football guy football. Did you

1345
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: just try to throw New York through New York? Did

1346
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 1: you just try to sneakly throw New York football tough guys?

1347
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm from Buffalo and I went to uh

1348
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 2: you know, like I said, I went to Pittsburgh.

1349
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 1: Year.

1350
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, Buffalo they got some tough sobs here. I'm

1351
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 2: telling you, they got they got me, they got my

1352
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 2: brother who played in the NFL. My other brother who

1353
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 2: played in the NFL too, And yeah, yeah, we're rolling, baby,

1354
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 2: We're rolling, freaking. What's what stands out to me when

1355
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 2: we were talking about him the other day though, is

1356
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 2: how he.

1357
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: Was drafted in the third round to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1358
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 2: And you told me that fact, and it was kind

1359
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 2: of shocking to me because I thought he was a

1360
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 2: New England Patriot from day one because of just all

1361
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 2: the stories that you heard about him, just the way

1362
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 2: that he played the game when he was in New

1363
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 2: England and what he did for you know.

1364
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 1: The Patriots as well.

1365
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 2: So I had absolutely no clue that he got drafted

1366
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 2: to the Steelers. Can you tell me how that happened

1367
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 2: as well, how he got to New England because you

1368
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 2: kind of were telling me a little bit.

1369
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 1: Well, he was a teamer, I mean, he played in Pittsburgh.

1370
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 1: I think he was drafted ninety seven, was a special teamer.

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01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 1: And then I think once he became a free agent,

1372
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 1: Bill like really wanted him or something. Was that it?

1373
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, So why does Bill have like this nag of

1374
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 2: just finding these white dudes that just want to play football,

1375
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 2: just work hard, and they're not so good at the moment,

1376
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 2: and then he just blossoms.

1377
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 1: First thing, the guy sitting next to me like that,

1378
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 1: I mean, that's his projector Nikovichikovich was a long snapper

1379
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: welker in Miami.

1380
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 2: I mean what what was he just kind of a

1381
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 2: punt returner.

1382
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, seventy catches. Yet he had a big year. He

1383
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 1: had a big year, not like a.

1384
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 2: Huge year like he had in New England. For he

1385
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 2: had a decent, solid year in Miami.

1386
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 1: No, but yeah, Mike was the guy that Bill always

1387
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 1: used to reference like you think you're smart, you're not

1388
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 1: no frable like and that's that's when you know someone's

1389
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: a smart football players when Bill's referencing him in mother

1390
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 1: Fucking you you know like that. That was always kind

1391
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: of like one thing that stuck out. And then just

1392
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 1: hearing from like Jimmy Whalen the training staff on how

1393
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 1: vrabel was in the locker room like hell, Corey was

1394
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 1: like hey, him and Willie Mack and Brew like he

1395
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 1: there was like the holy trinity of guys that everyone

1396
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 1: had to walk through that kept everyone accountable. And I'm

1397
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 1: really you know, I'm pretty excited. I'm excited for this

1398
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: this new generation of Patriots. Now, with that said, I

1399
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 1: still think the whole Mayo situation that he got the

1400
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: short end of the stick on this, and I feel

1401
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 1: terrible for him, and I think he's gonna do well,

1402
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 1: but like that really wasn't set up to really succeed,

1403
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 1: not at all.

1404
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 2: I think goes a little bit unfair. But shout out

1405
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 2: to Mayo because he's a great coach. He knows the

1406
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 2: game of football tremendously, and uh, you know, I just

1407
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 2: think that it wasn't set up properly for him, And

1408
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 2: I feel like he's gonna have some success in the future,

1409
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 2: you know, with another organization and possibly be another head

1410
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 2: coach down the road, you know, once he gets his

1411
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 2: footback on the gas pedal.

1412
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 1: But Rabel coming in now, like all this stuff that

1413
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 1: you hear keeping guys accountable, like he's gonna be the

1414
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 1: first doing and he can he can get away with

1415
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 1: saying things to guys the way he says it because

1416
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 1: he did it, he played it, and he's just as

1417
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 1: smart as the guys that coached him at it. So

1418
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 1: like when you have all those things and he's a

1419
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: burly motherfucker, like he's a big man. When you shake

1420
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 1: his hands, his hands wrapped to your wrists. He's got

1421
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 1: big ass hands, strength, man strang. I still think he

1422
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 1: got four or six plays in him. You think he

1423
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 1: could play right now? Four sixth plays?

1424
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, four to six plays, like you know that offensive

1425
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 2: package of New England Patriots had for him. And talking

1426
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 2: about that offensive package, I think he had ten catches

1427
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 2: his whole entire career for ten touchdowns. So what a

1428
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 2: fucking from touch The TV is one hundred percent.

1429
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 1: That's in all time insane.

1430
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 2: And that's just how smart of a player he was,

1431
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 2: is that he knew how to get open on the

1432
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 2: offensive side of the ball and on top of it,

1433
01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 2: on the defense side of the ball.

1434
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 1: I mean, just eight of and just just how good

1435
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: he was just knowing the game. You know what makes

1436
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 1: me so sad? Though?

1437
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 2: What's sad? Because what makes you sad? Now you're making

1438
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 2: me sad.

1439
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: No, it makes me sad because we always hear about

1440
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 1: the stories about Brady when he was like the young

1441
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 1: guy on the team and how Rabel and Bruski and

1442
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: all these guys used to like motherfuck him and it

1443
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 1: was it was and picked on him. It was a

1444
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,680
Speaker 1: completely different Tom that we played with so like we

1445
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 1: and like you couldn't. There was only a couple guys

1446
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 1: kept really good jaw with Tom, but everyone was so

1447
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 1: scared to do it, and Tom would be hungry to

1448
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 1: jaw with people like talk shit, but like everyone was

1449
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 1: so scared to talk shit to Tom because he was

1450
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 1: already Tom by then, you know, like it was. It

1451
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 1: almost makes me like, man, I wish we got to

1452
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 1: see him in those those early stages where you were

1453
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 1: more kind of part of the boys, instead of him

1454
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 1: being like the older brother, h guy figure. You understand

1455
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 1: that Rabel was like that older brother figure to Tom. Yeah,

1456
01:08:57,960 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 1: and we didn't get to see any of that.

1457
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 2: We got this the time where he was our older

1458
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,600
Speaker 2: brother and it would have been amazing to be a

1459
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 2: part of that crew. But we're just the second, you know,

1460
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 2: era of the New England pages. But there were so

1461
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 2: many times, like you said, in the training room and

1462
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 2: the coaches that were around very able, like oh, you

1463
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 2: would have loved the guy so much, you would have

1464
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 2: loved to play with him.

1465
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 1: He gives it all. He gives it his all out

1466
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:18,799
Speaker 1: on the field.

1467
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a guy that you want to be

1468
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 2: friends with as well in the locker room because he's

1469
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 2: just fun to be around, but also at the same time,

1470
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 2: he's going to go all out for you out on

1471
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 2: the field. I mean he was a grinder, yeah, I

1472
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 2: mean gritty, great size as a player, and he was

1473
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 2: an inside outside.

1474
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 1: Threat, first tier out there out in the field.

1475
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 2: And I think that's why Bill loved him so much,

1476
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 2: because how versatile he was a special teamer, could play

1477
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 2: inside backer and outside backer and when to When Bill

1478
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 2: gets a guy like that, he utilizes their skill and

1479
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 2: so many different aspects of the game and he makes

1480
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 2: you a tremendous a player and he blossoms you like

1481
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 2: no other. And that's why Bill loves those type of

1482
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 2: guys when he can get him in free agency one percent.

1483
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 1: Think about it, like he's played on every phase of

1484
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 1: the game at a high level in an important game.

1485
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 1: He's been a teamer. So like when he's addressing the

1486
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 1: team and he's watching fucking the film or having like

1487
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:17,560
Speaker 1: a highlight thing that he's probably presenting the team, he

1488
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 1: can break down guy for guy because he's done it

1489
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 1: at the pro level. On defense, he knows everything about

1490
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 1: defense because he's you know, he basically was in the

1491
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 1: school of doctorates on the defense through Belichick, learning through

1492
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 1: him and then actually being on the field and experiencing

1493
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 1: it is another way he gets to coach guys and

1494
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: then an offense, Like, yeah, he was in a package

1495
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 1: or two, but I remember going and going on the

1496
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 1: other side of the ball when I had to play corner.

1497
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 1: Like even being in those meeting rooms for the little

1498
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 1: amount of time that I was, it opened up my

1499
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 1: mind so differently on how I thought about offense when

1500
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 1: I went back to offense and how I was attacking

1501
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 1: the defense. He's done that on offense, Like he can

1502
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 1: break down the whole the whole game, and he's a

1503
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 1: masculine figure that's gonna make you do it right, and

1504
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 1: if you don't, he's gonna motherfucker you get rid of you.

1505
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 1: He's gonna make people accountable. That's how it was the

1506
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,520
Speaker 1: Patriot way that it was developed through these guys.

1507
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 2: I mean, and just just talking about his knowledge of

1508
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 2: the game and just the mastermind he has within the

1509
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 2: rule book of the NFL as well. Remember in the

1510
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen playoffs, Rabel intentionally took a twelve man on

1511
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 2: the field penalty just to keep Brady off of the field.

1512
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 2: I mean, he kind of outplayed Belichick in that situation

1513
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 2: because Belichick was the master of knowing the rules inside

1514
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 2: and out and using that to his advantage. And this

1515
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 2: is a time when Rabel used it to his advantage

1516
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 2: and it was against the mastermind coach Belichick. So I

1517
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 2: learned that pretty incredible by him to do that.

1518
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 1: I learned about that little mastermind bullshit is when we

1519
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:56,719
Speaker 1: went to the Kentucky Derby one year and he fucking

1520
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 1: was He was my handicapper for the horses, and I

1521
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 1: made like twenty gard in, like Rabel loves like that

1522
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 1: kind of shit. We were sitting there and I have

1523
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 1: no clue on how to gamble these horses, and raveses

1524
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 1: over here got his dip in. I think he had

1525
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 1: a cigarette, maybe a shot or two in him, and

1526
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 1: he's fucking c Yeah, he was smoking with a dip in.

1527
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 1: I'm not joking.

1528
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 2: I love this guy now.

1529
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 1: And we go and we go to the little thing

1530
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 1: where you have to put your ship in, and I'm like, Raves,

1531
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 1: what I do? He's like, don't worry at him, And

1532
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 1: I got you. You know, he fucking puts them on there.

1533
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 1: We hit it like a three thing parlay or something.

1534
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 1: He's just a smart guy. He's a smart guy that

1535
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 1: like can beat you up.

1536
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 2: What's the biggest thing in year one that he has

1537
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:40,759
Speaker 2: to emphasize in New England?

1538
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 1: What do you think, Jules, Well, you gotta get some lineman.

1539
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 1: H you gotta get some right there, he gotta. They

1540
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 1: got a whole lot of money to spend. Now, knowing

1541
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 1: Mike through the years that I've known him, I'm sure

1542
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 1: he took this job knowing that he Uh, he's going

1543
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:02,679
Speaker 1: to be able to spend some money.

1544
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 2: He's in a great situation heading into his first year. Obviously,

1545
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 2: he's got Drake May who's an unbelievable quarterback. He's going

1546
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 2: to develop him to best of his potential, no doubt

1547
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 2: about that.

1548
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 1: Uh, he was.

1549
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:18,560
Speaker 2: I would say Josh McDaniels, Josh McDaniels go there, but

1550
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 2: he has to go through the whole process. Maybe he

1551
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:22,679
Speaker 2: has a guy or two out there that he's thinking

1552
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 2: about bringing in, but uh, he's going through all that

1553
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 2: hiring process.

1554
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 1: Interview. I think that would But Josh McDaniels would be

1555
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 1: the best face just anywhere. He ain't. He ain't and

1556
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:33,760
Speaker 1: he loves it there.

1557
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:36,680
Speaker 2: I believe Josh is one of the best offensive coinators

1558
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 2: in the league as well. I mean he knows how

1559
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 2: to develop players. He developed, helped develop team he developed,

1560
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 2: You developed, Tom put me in the right situations all

1561
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 2: the time when I was in New England. He knows

1562
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 2: how to relate to guys as well, which is really good.

1563
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 2: I mean, uh, you need that, you know, with these

1564
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 2: young bucks these days.

1565
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 1: I mean, he made mac Jones a pro bowler in

1566
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 1: his rookie years, then he left.

1567
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 2: And then ain't no pro bowler.

1568
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 1: From there on out. No, there hasn't been. Hasn't been.

1569
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 2: I'll contribute all that to most of that to McDaniel.

1570
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 2: But these mcdse I like the name. I never heard that.

1571
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 2: I don't know what about Rabel. He took Ryan Tannehill

1572
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:18,680
Speaker 2: out of Miami. Everyone thought he was gonna be out

1573
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:20,640
Speaker 2: of the league, and he basically made him into a

1574
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 2: pro bowler, basically got the number one seed in the

1575
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 2: playoffs and almost made the Super Bowl. Yeah, you know,

1576
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 2: a couple of years with him too. So he knows

1577
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 2: how to develop quarterbacks. He knows how to get the

1578
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 2: best out of guys because he brings that type of

1579
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 2: energy you know, on the field, in the meeting rooms,

1580
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 2: to get the best out of players. And that's why

1581
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 2: I hear about Rabel, and that's why people love playing

1582
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:43,839
Speaker 2: for him out of the guys that I know in Tennessee.

1583
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 1: I think he just feels safe when you're around him.

1584
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 1: I feel safe. I feel like whenever he was whenever

1585
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 1: we hang out, we've gone out and done things together,

1586
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 1: I just feel safe. Feel he's just burly he and

1587
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 1: he's also got the wit and like the strategy to

1588
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 1: like if something's some ship were to happen in like

1589
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 1: a bar or something like, he know an escape route,

1590
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 1: maybe take down like seven eight people himself and then

1591
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 1: get us. Like, he just feels safe with a guy

1592
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 1: like Rabel. He's the guy you you want your daughter

1593
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 1: to marry. I feel I don't know about that, all right,

1594
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 1: all right, well, well I like what you're saying. You

1595
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 1: feel safe around. You want your daughter to marry someone

1596
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:22,719
Speaker 1: that around.

1597
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 2: So Jewels.

1598
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 1: Man, I'm excited for him. I'm sad for Mayo. This

1599
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 1: is like a This is really like one of those

1600
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 1: things where it's like a divorce. This is why New

1601
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:41,640
Speaker 1: England keeps on putting me in these goddamn divorces. I

1602
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 1: feel like a kid that's had like five divorced parents.

1603
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 1: What can you explain more? Well, when Bill and Brady

1604
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 1: that divorce. Yeah, now you know Mayo freaking Rabes that divorce,

1605
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 1: there's like fucking hell because we're all like intertwined and

1606
01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:59,600
Speaker 1: it's kind of like in ssual.

1607
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 2: You're kind of like the red headed step child that's

1608
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 2: just been there throughout the whole time. That's just takes

1609
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 2: all the beatings, but in the end you're gonna still

1610
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 2: be standing there.

1611
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 1: Make it tough. It does make you tough, makes you

1612
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 1: tough man, and that's why you're the toughest guy I know. Jules. Also,

1613
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 1: i'd be I'd be crazy to say that. Yeah, our

1614
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 1: last game with Tom Brady Rabell beat us. That's why

1615
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 1: Verbel's back. That's why he's back. If he didn't win

1616
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 1: his cleats over there, if he didn't win that game,

1617
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 1: he might not be back. He might not be the

1618
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:33,879
Speaker 1: head coach of the New Patriots.

1619
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 2: And maybe he wouldn't because maybe he he sent Tom

1620
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 2: Brady packing in his last game as a New Patriot.

1621
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 1: That's probably his greatest Like, that's probably what he said.

1622
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 1: The first line in the interview. Did he say that, No,

1623
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I would. But hey, mister Kraft, who

1624
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 1: sent Tom packing, I bet you he said that. I

1625
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 1: bet you he has no filter where he probably would

1626
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:01,560
Speaker 1: say ship like that. He's he's the only player to

1627
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 1: have two touchdowns in a sack in a game offense

1628
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 1: and defense. I mean his versatility. Is there any other

1629
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 1: coach out there that you think could beat up Rabel?

1630
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 1: I think a good fight would be Dan Campbell and him.

1631
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 1: Oh point, but that I'm taking Rabes because Rabes d

1632
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 1: n Kimble. He was a tight end. Yeah, so what

1633
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 1: what are you saying about tight ends jewels? They're just

1634
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 1: not that tough.

1635
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 2: They're not as tough as I agree, you're one of one.

1636
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 1: I agree with your title.

1637
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 2: Ones ain't as tough as d ns, and the d

1638
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 2: ns are beastly, man, Deans are huge.

1639
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 1: You gotta be fearless, Mile Ryans. He could be in there.

1640
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 1: They all say McDermott is like a wrestler, iowast, but

1641
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 1: I'm I think Rabes is a wrestler too. And Rabes

1642
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 1: used to go against fucking Steve Neil all the time,

1643
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 1: which Steve Neil was World champions, So Rabes already got

1644
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 1: a little in on that. So I think he's I

1645
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 1: think Rabes is taking it's just weight weight class on

1646
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,640
Speaker 1: on McDermott. And he may have the skilled technique, but

1647
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 1: Rabel would swallow him. Oh ship, What kind of dude

1648
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 1: is Mike Rabel?

1649
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 2: I mean he's stud no doubt about it. Football IQ's

1650
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 2: up there the pedigree. He's also a wizard. He does

1651
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 2: like every position he also has he does. I mean

1652
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 2: he's got the best chin in football other than like

1653
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 2: the coach coward, like having a nice chins of stock.

1654
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 1: Like he looks like the Ohio guy. When you put

1655
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 1: Ohio guy in dictionary for like recruit, it's like big

1656
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 1: white guy, big chin looks like Mustafa from fucking Beauty

1657
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 1: in the Beast. Yeah, I never seen Beauty in the

1658
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 1: Beast Or is that one? I don't know, Gustaf, you

1659
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:50,679
Speaker 1: know Gustav or something, Yeah, I never seen it. Freak.

1660
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he he had like man's strength, that's what

1661
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 1: everyone always talked about. His man's strength. Dog. Definitely a dog,

1662
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 1: no doubt he could be a lot room guy. I

1663
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:03,759
Speaker 1: was thinking Whiz. I was gonna go with Whiz.

1664
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 2: I mean, just how clutch he was in situations and

1665
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 2: just how knowledgeable he was.

1666
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 1: And he's offense. He's a dude's dude in the Patriot world,

1667
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:18,719
Speaker 1: like in bizarro world, which is not really like everywhere

1668
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,720
Speaker 1: else where, Like being an asshole and bullying is like

1669
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 1: being positive there. So you know that's positive because it

1670
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 1: makes you accountable. So I wouldn't put him in the

1671
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 1: overall category of dudes. Dude, I would go on three,

1672
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 1: what do you think one, let's go on three, one, two, three. Whiz.

1673
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 1: He's definitely a whiz.

1674
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 2: I mean, special teamer, knows that game inside and out. Defense,

1675
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 2: I mean clearly played defense, was one of the best

1676
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 2: out there, one of the toughest. And then I knew

1677
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 2: what to do on the offense side of the ball

1678
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:51,919
Speaker 2: to touchdowns.

1679
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 1: He's a whiz. And then also he's a whiz the

1680
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 1: fucking belichicking the Belichick with the timeout of the.

1681
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 2: Twelve man on the fid men on the field.

1682
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 1: You know, so wizard, he's a whiz. Next our next guest, though,

1683
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 1: I think we should go over to the Alabama side.

1684
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:15,679
Speaker 1: We're fair, We're fair, We're very fair. This guy, though,

1685
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 1: was never fair on a goal line play, or he

1686
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 1: was never fair on a second and ten in the

1687
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 1: Super Bowl or second in goal in the Super Bowl

1688
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 1: where he had to make a life changing play to

1689
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:32,560
Speaker 1: create and tackle h Marshawn Lynch. This guy had the

1690
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 1: hugest calves I've ever seen. Next guest, Dante Hi Tower, Danta,

1691
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 1: I mean Dante Hi Tower, Dante Dante hi Jan even

1692
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:44,639
Speaker 1: I know it's Dante. I'll get into it after Ai.

1693
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 1: And which a I have to say about Dante because

1694
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 1: we know him is the AI synopsis. Obviously I'm improving my.

1695
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 2: Speaking skills because I couldn't say synopsis on our very

1696
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 2: first episode, Julianna, and now I can't. So this is

1697
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 2: what's so great about Dudes on dudes is that we're

1698
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 2: getting smarter as being complete dudes overall. Synopsis, synopsis. All right,

1699
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 2: here we go the synopsis or Dante Hier this week.

1700
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 2: He's a former NFL linebacker. Dante high Tower is a

1701
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 2: former NFL linebacker known for his leadership and versatility on

1702
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 2: the field. A two time Pro Bowler, high Tower played

1703
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 2: his entire nine year NFL career with the New England Patriots,

1704
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:23,599
Speaker 2: the same amount of years I played with the New

1705
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:27,639
Speaker 2: England Patriots, nine, helping the team win three Super Bowl titles,

1706
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 2: just like myself, helping the New England Patriots win three

1707
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 2: Super Bowl titles. I love this guy already. Prior to

1708
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,679
Speaker 2: the NFL career, he was a standout at the University

1709
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 2: of Alabama, where he was a key figure and winning

1710
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:42,799
Speaker 2: two BCS national championships. This freezing guy is a winner,

1711
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:46,599
Speaker 2: that's all I know. Five championships at the highest level,

1712
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 2: two in college, three in the NFL. Over what over

1713
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 2: a thirteen to fourteen year period. Ridiculous winner winner Chicken Danner,

1714
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 2: that's for sure. Born and raised in Lewisburg, Tennessee. Oh,

1715
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 2: the walls must not like him.

1716
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 1: That's I don't want to wow. Maybe he didn't want

1717
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 1: to go to Mayo's fin steps. Oh, shots fired all right.

1718
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,680
Speaker 2: High Tower was known for his high football IQ and

1719
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:25,679
Speaker 2: relentless work ethic. After retiring in twenty twenty two, high

1720
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:29,759
Speaker 2: Tower joined the Patriots coaching staff while also pursuing business ventures,

1721
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:33,720
Speaker 2: spending time with his family, and engaging and charity charitable work,

1722
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 2: earning admiration for his calm and thoughtful demeanor.

1723
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 1: Off the field. Oh that's my guy.

1724
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 2: He is calm and does have that demeanor of being relaxed,

1725
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 2: but he will rip your freaking head off, face off.

1726
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 2: He'll bring your arm off.

1727
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 1: What's the first thing that comes to mind when you

1728
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:55,679
Speaker 1: think about Dante. I'm scared of Dante Hi Tower.

1729
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 2: But the first thing that comes to mind right now

1730
01:22:57,479 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 2: is I'm looking at the picture of him in high

1731
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,600
Speaker 2: school and he looks exactly like Matthew Slater, but with

1732
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 2: big ears, like alf years. So if you can put

1733
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 2: that up, please and show everyone he's he was Matthew

1734
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 2: Slater in high school with alf ears.

1735
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 1: I just looking at the picture. Pretty pretty dog slay dogs.

1736
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 2: Shot fire more shots fire that former teammates, Pum pum.

1737
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:19,679
Speaker 1: We love shooting shots at our former teammates.

1738
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:20,639
Speaker 2: Please shoot them back.

1739
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 1: We appreciate that there's one guy who can't handle our

1740
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 1: shots fired at him. Think of it.

1741
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but theh Tower was such a better linebacker than yeah,

1742
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 2: short linebackers. But all right, back to Dante. All right,

1743
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 2: here's my story. This guy I was scared of. Actually

1744
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 2: he was what first round pick, New England pager, like.

1745
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 1: Top top fifteen or so. When you have a linebacker that's.

1746
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 2: Twenty fifth six, what is he six four six three,

1747
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 2: you know, six and can move like he's a little guy.

1748
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 2: I'm scared of those guys. You want to know why,

1749
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 2: because they got that leverage. He's not a little guy,

1750
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 2: You're just massive. No, I'm scared of those I don't

1751
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 2: know why those guys. I'm scared of those big guys

1752
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 2: that are in the frame why of six you know,

1753
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:18,600
Speaker 2: one to six four and are wide as well, like

1754
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 2: you just said, because they got that leverage and they

1755
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:23,679
Speaker 2: can get underneath me, and then that's when I lose.

1756
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 1: And I don't like that.

1757
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 2: Juill see, I gotta outsmart these guys, so Dante, I

1758
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 2: had to, you know, try to outsmart them on the

1759
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 2: football field and going versus them in practice. And that

1760
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 2: was just to not get touched by him, you know,

1761
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:37,759
Speaker 2: try to run away from him because he was always

1762
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:39,599
Speaker 2: gonna win versus me and camp.

1763
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 1: I was a rookie. I was coming off that ankle injury.

1764
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 1: I wasn't a rookie. He was a rookie. I was

1765
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 1: coming off the ankle injury. When you know that guy in.

1766
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:52,560
Speaker 2: Baltimore and broke my ankle. Pollard, Yeah, very very so.

1767
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 2: I didn't really heal that well that whole year at

1768
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 2: South Padre Island spring break, my cast and everything came

1769
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 2: back every time in my ankle was good. It really wasn't,

1770
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:06,679
Speaker 2: you know. But don't tell Bill, Bill, don't listen to that. Okay,

1771
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 2: you've done things like that too, Jewels, So that's gonna

1772
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 2: make me feel better just saying that. But uh, I

1773
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 2: can't get open. I'm not doing this well in training camp.

1774
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,440
Speaker 2: My back's tarting to go out of me because I'm compensating.

1775
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 2: I'm just making excuses right now.

1776
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 1: Why Dante, you know, dominated me when he was a rookie.

1777
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:27,559
Speaker 2: But this guy, when they're that wide, they're built that strong.

1778
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 2: You could just tell he had that presence of Yo,

1779
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:32,759
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna move that guy. No one's really gonna

1780
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:35,799
Speaker 2: move that guy, being sixty three two hundred and sixty pounds.

1781
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 2: And I accidentally like caught him one time running your route.

1782
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 2: I tried going around him and like we caught like

1783
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 2: shoulders or something. It can't exactly pinpoint what it was,

1784
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 2: and like it was kind of like a cheap shot

1785
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 2: on him, but it was totally accidental, and I yeah,

1786
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 2: it wasn't a chip. It was like he was at

1787
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 2: the linebacker position kind of stepping up for the run

1788
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 2: and kind of ran into you. I think I kind

1789
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 2: of face masked him or something and then.

1790
01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 1: Like yanked it a little bit.

1791
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 2: He turned around and he was furious. He was vicious,

1792
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:05,960
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh man, he took it to

1793
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 2: a whole other level. The next play versus me, and

1794
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 2: I literally learned I will never piss off Dante High

1795
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 2: Tower ever again.

1796
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 1: You got to piss it. You mustn't do something crazy,

1797
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 1: because I never really seen him pissed off. Yeah, he

1798
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 1: was mad, man, he was mad.

1799
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 2: The guy's a freak. You can't really block him in

1800
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:25,720
Speaker 2: the run game. You can't really stop him in the

1801
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:27,600
Speaker 2: past game either if he's rushing at you because he

1802
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:29,760
Speaker 2: can move so well and can get around you, or

1803
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 2: he can bowl rush you. So the guy man freak

1804
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 2: of an athlete, no doubt about that. And I swear

1805
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 2: if you go to a barbecue with him, he'll eat

1806
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:41,640
Speaker 2: like fifteen pounds of like Rabbi steak.

1807
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 1: And Briskey can eat. When'd you see me whatever at

1808
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 1: those team outings that we have and like it turns

1809
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 1: in the muscle right on the street muscle.

1810
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you know how the Wolverine character or whatever,

1811
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 2: and like the Hawk like they just you know in

1812
01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 2: those movies, like whatever, we do they just you know,

1813
01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:00,080
Speaker 2: turn into the creature that they are, Like, that's what

1814
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 2: he did when he ate ate that food.

1815
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 1: He just turned into Dante hitar dude. Well, I mean

1816
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:08,719
Speaker 1: his nickname was Zeus, which is like huge, huge Greek.

1817
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 2: I remember, like really, he was a rookie and I

1818
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 2: was already telling him that he's going to sign a

1819
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 2: one hundred million dollar deal at the middle linebacker position.

1820
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 1: Did you yeah, how'd you know? Because I was facing Brison.

1821
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, this guy freaking good. He good. He can

1822
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 1: move cover, he can you know, stop the run, he

1823
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:27,800
Speaker 1: can do it all. I mean, Scar, he looks like

1824
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:30,720
Speaker 1: the predator out there because he has dreads, like early

1825
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 1: in his creating. But when he got dreads and you're

1826
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 1: that big and wide, Dante looks like he has two

1827
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:39,680
Speaker 1: houses for calves. His calves are so damn big. Is

1828
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 1: the largest cat. I used to tell him that every

1829
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 1: day I walk by, he'd be in his sandals. We'll

1830
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:46,679
Speaker 1: be walking by each other in the hallway. I see

1831
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 1: his cap, Like, bro, can you fucking ease up on

1832
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 1: the calf raises? Jesus Christ, it wasn't the calf raises,

1833
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 1: it was the brisket. It was probably the Brits call

1834
01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 1: right to his cast, right to Drew, right to his

1835
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 1: calv And Dante was a smart ass football player, smart,

1836
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 1: very smart football player. And I remember going to his

1837
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 1: house once and I walked over there and he, like

1838
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 1: you said, he's just like a he's a quiet he's

1839
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:16,800
Speaker 1: kind of quiet, but he's vicious. And I go to

1840
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 1: his house and I'm like, is that a fucking video

1841
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 1: game station with keyboard in mouse? Dante high Tower is

1842
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:27,240
Speaker 1: a keyboard guy in the video games. I go, what

1843
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:30,679
Speaker 1: the fuck is this bro? He goes, what, bro? Whatever?

1844
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 1: You know, he's like a whiz. He's a fucking whizz,

1845
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 1: this guy. He's insane on call of duty too. Don't

1846
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 1: don't let him. Don't let him trick you and think

1847
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 1: he's not. He's a fucking gamer. He used to he

1848
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 1: was really good.

1849
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 2: Well that's why he's a football coach now for the

1850
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:47,919
Speaker 2: New England Patriots football because you gotta.

1851
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 1: Be smart, you gotta be a whiz in order to

1852
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 1: be a coach. How do you think he's doing a

1853
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 1: coaching I feel like he's doing fine. How do you

1854
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 1: think they're feeling over there now?

1855
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:56,639
Speaker 2: I feel like Dante's always feeling good.

1856
01:28:56,720 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 1: Man. He's never down an even guy. He is, man,

1857
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 1: he really is.

1858
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 2: He's the guy that had the ultimate pass from Bill Belichick.

1859
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 1: He always had. That's how scary he was that coach

1860
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 1: was even scared of him. I don't think coach is

1861
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 1: scared of him. Coach loved He wasn't scared of him.

1862
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:15,519
Speaker 2: Man, He loved him because he was He was a

1863
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:19,040
Speaker 2: well built football player and he played the game how

1864
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 2: it should be played Bill, and Bill loves guy.

1865
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 1: Yeah he did. We're offense. That's why we never got

1866
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 1: loved Jules.

1867
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:30,800
Speaker 2: Who else had the Bill pass? Basically a male had

1868
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:32,680
Speaker 2: that pass. He could do whatever he wanted to do.

1869
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:37,600
Speaker 1: And Bill that's fine. You know. Devin Belichick mccordy, I

1870
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 1: mean that's one of his sons. I think that's his

1871
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:42,880
Speaker 1: actual middle name. Now who else was another one? In past?

1872
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:45,599
Speaker 2: We mean, like you know, if they didn't want to practice,

1873
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 2: or if like there, you know, hamstring was a little sore,

1874
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 2: they be coach.

1875
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:52,920
Speaker 1: I can't I can't go to the coach. But no problem,

1876
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 1: just hang out in the training room and get it

1877
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:56,600
Speaker 1: rubbed on.

1878
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:56,920
Speaker 4: You know.

1879
01:29:57,520 --> 01:29:59,600
Speaker 1: No, I was thinking more of the past. You know,

1880
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 1: how has been over here testing the guys around a

1881
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:05,720
Speaker 1: show like, Hey, who's this guy? Who's that guy? Well,

1882
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:08,640
Speaker 1: for the offense, he'd be like, hey, Rob, what's the

1883
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 1: exotic front of the defense that you expect to see

1884
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 1: on third and two? And Rob's sitting there like going

1885
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 1: through the What the fuck? Hey, Devin, what color is

1886
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:22,599
Speaker 1: the offense that we're playing? If they're at home?

1887
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 5: Uh?

1888
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 1: I think green? Yes, good job, Like that's the past

1889
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 1: we're talking about. Or like whenever you give a question

1890
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:34,720
Speaker 1: to like the defensive line, like do these guys like

1891
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 1: to run the ball or pass the ball? They got

1892
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 1: Derek Henry, I'm like, uh, coach, I'm on offense, I

1893
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:48,719
Speaker 1: think they like to run the ball. God, hey, gentlemen,

1894
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 1: what is the punter? What school did he go to?

1895
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the past we're talking And Dante

1896
01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:58,639
Speaker 1: got that. Bill love Dante and it was deserving. Dante

1897
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 1: was He was one of the alphas. He sat in

1898
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:04,680
Speaker 1: the Teddy Bruski locker when you walked into the I

1899
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 1: think it was either the Teddy Bruski or the Willie

1900
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:10,160
Speaker 1: mac locker. They'd always put those two guys in because

1901
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:11,600
Speaker 1: when you had to walk in the locker room, you

1902
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 1: had to walk by those guys. He was one of

1903
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:15,799
Speaker 1: those guys. I mean he was. He was a great teammate.

1904
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 2: Where would you rank him as an all time you know,

1905
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 2: Patriot player on the defensive side of the ball.

1906
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:21,519
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got to be up there. I mean,

1907
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 1: we wouldn't had the Super Bowl if he didn't make

1908
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 1: that second down, the second down goal line player.

1909
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:27,680
Speaker 2: That's very true what you said. We would have never

1910
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:30,760
Speaker 2: won that Super Bowl. That Malcolm Butler catch would have

1911
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:33,840
Speaker 2: never happened because Marshawn Lynch would have scored already. And

1912
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:36,920
Speaker 2: everyone talks about, hey, why didn't Marshawn Lynch get you know,

1913
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:38,960
Speaker 2: the handoff or why didn't they hand off the ball? Well,

1914
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:42,040
Speaker 2: there was a play prior to that wasn't It wasn't

1915
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 2: the exact play before. Well, Marshawn Lynch did have the ball.

1916
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:48,040
Speaker 2: And what happened one on one with Dante high Tower.

1917
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 2: And you never seen Marshawn Lynch never go down ever

1918
01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 2: one on one on one and literally Dante high Tower

1919
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:57,600
Speaker 2: is the only guy that can you know, possibly do that,

1920
01:31:57,800 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 2: and he knocked him right down and he stopped him

1921
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:02,599
Speaker 2: in order to the next play, in order to get

1922
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 2: to the next play that Malcolm Butler had that interception,

1923
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 2: so they already gave it to Marshaun Lynch to have

1924
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:10,600
Speaker 2: that chance to score. So without Dante high Tower, we

1925
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:13,120
Speaker 2: would have never had that, you know, first super Bowl.

1926
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:14,599
Speaker 1: In New England, no doubt about him.

1927
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 2: And then and another big play that he has had,

1928
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:21,960
Speaker 2: you know in his career was that stripsack in the

1929
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:25,759
Speaker 2: game that unfortunately I didn't play in because my backup

1930
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:27,920
Speaker 2: blown out when I went up to see him because

1931
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 2: Tom threw me up to see him earlier that year

1932
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 2: and then I got leveled and lost a lung in

1933
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:35,200
Speaker 2: them back and I still came back the next year.

1934
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 2: But yeah, in that Super Bowl vers Atlanta, that strip

1935
01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:41,879
Speaker 2: sack Man, So just continue the domination of the comeback.

1936
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:44,640
Speaker 1: That was an incredible play. He comes through in the

1937
01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 1: clutch at all times. I still who blew your back out?

1938
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas? We're not going that deep about who blew

1939
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:54,800
Speaker 1: my back out? It was It was a dude, though.

1940
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 1: It was a dude.

1941
01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 2: His name was Earl Thomas.

1942
01:32:57,439 --> 01:33:00,519
Speaker 1: He's a Torpedo. Yeah, Torpedo was a big player that

1943
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 1: you can recall. The guy always had a big play

1944
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:05,599
Speaker 1: when the team needed I mean you go back into college.

1945
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:07,920
Speaker 1: In the National Championship, he had a sip sack. That's

1946
01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:10,840
Speaker 1: the kind of player Dante was. Fucking when your team

1947
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:14,639
Speaker 1: needed a big play, a big moment, he was super versatile.

1948
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 1: I remember him. He'd be middle linebacker and we put

1949
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:20,040
Speaker 1: him at defensive ends sometimes because you could rush a

1950
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 1: passer like. He just was big time player to make

1951
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 1: big time plays. That is a huge contribution why I

1952
01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 1: have three super Bowl rings, you have four. There's a

1953
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:30,840
Speaker 1: huge part of it. I mean, we wouldn't have been

1954
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:33,439
Speaker 1: there without him. You know, I'd always call him. If

1955
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:37,720
Speaker 1: you see how his name's spelled, it's don't a with apostrophee,

1956
01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:42,320
Speaker 1: and so I used to call him Danta very you know,

1957
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:45,200
Speaker 1: I used to call him a Danta in not locker room.

1958
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:47,800
Speaker 1: He go, jeels, don't you fucking call me Danta? I go,

1959
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:51,320
Speaker 1: why not, Danta? He goes, because if you fucking call me,

1960
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 1: all these white people out here in Boston they're gonna

1961
01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:56,639
Speaker 1: be calling me Danta. Don't you fucking call me Danta.

1962
01:33:57,200 --> 01:34:01,479
Speaker 1: My name is Dante. I'm like, all right, Danta, Jules,

1963
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:05,519
Speaker 1: even I knew it was Dante. You must you must,

1964
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:06,600
Speaker 1: you must have.

1965
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:11,519
Speaker 6: Had a bad days. I just wanted to call him

1966
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:15,720
Speaker 6: Dante to make fun of him time. Well, what kind

1967
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 6: of dude is he? What kind of dude is the

1968
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:20,840
Speaker 6: kind of dude to Dante? I mean, Dante, you're getting

1969
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 6: me on that freaking.

1970
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:24,639
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, whatever you do, if you see Dante,

1971
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:27,120
Speaker 1: do not call him Dante. He'll get really mad at you.

1972
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:29,960
Speaker 1: He'll blame it on me. He'll fucking blame it on me.

1973
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:33,280
Speaker 1: Don't call him Dante. What kind of dude is Dante?

1974
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:36,240
Speaker 1: I mean he's he looks like a goddamn stud. He

1975
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:39,000
Speaker 1: does look like a stud. He's a freak too. I

1976
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:40,799
Speaker 1: mean he's got house for calves.

1977
01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:44,000
Speaker 2: I feel like he's he hits categories.

1978
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:48,519
Speaker 1: He's a dudes. Dude, he's a dude. Yeah, he hits

1979
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:51,800
Speaker 1: them all on three. Let's let's see which one on three? Hold.

1980
01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:53,960
Speaker 1: I gotta think about it real quick. All right, I'm

1981
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 1: gonna go because.

1982
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,160
Speaker 2: He's all five, so let me try to pinpoint it

1983
01:34:57,240 --> 01:35:01,559
Speaker 2: down the one on three, one, two, three.

1984
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 1: I think I think he's a whiz. That's why he's

1985
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:06,760
Speaker 1: a coach now. He is a coach.

1986
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:08,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he knew the game of football like no other.

1987
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:11,479
Speaker 2: I mean he's got a national champion has he has?

1988
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:14,720
Speaker 2: He has five you know, championship said, and like.

1989
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:17,439
Speaker 1: He was a first round linebacker. He had a lot

1990
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:20,519
Speaker 1: of hype coming in and he backed up all the

1991
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:22,760
Speaker 1: hype he did. He like, you know what I mean,

1992
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 1: he's a large. I mean he's a freak too. I

1993
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:29,760
Speaker 1: mean he made big plays in big situations. He's got

1994
01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 1: a pedigree, he's got football IQ, and he looks like

1995
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:34,200
Speaker 1: a Greek god.

1996
01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:39,160
Speaker 2: But making big plays in a big game is a whiz, Jules,

1997
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:42,559
Speaker 2: because he knew when to make that play to turn

1998
01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:43,760
Speaker 2: it around for the team.

1999
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:44,920
Speaker 1: Does that make sense?

2000
01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:48,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is like a but I would I would say,

2001
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:52,600
Speaker 2: though we're trying to categorize it into what like he

2002
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:56,280
Speaker 2: most represents. A whiz is a guy that doesn't have

2003
01:35:57,120 --> 01:36:01,479
Speaker 2: the freak abilities and they get through because they're so smart,

2004
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:05,000
Speaker 2: and they're not getting through because they're a freak or

2005
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 2: a stud. So that's how you become a true wiz.

2006
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:11,120
Speaker 2: So therefore, he was getting through as a freak and

2007
01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 2: a stud and a dog. So he can't technically be

2008
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:17,280
Speaker 2: a whiz because being a whiz didn't really lead him

2009
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:20,040
Speaker 2: to where he needs to be. Maybe now as a coach.

2010
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:23,599
Speaker 2: Going back to that, I'm gonna have to categorize him

2011
01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 2: as a stud or a freak.

2012
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:29,280
Speaker 1: So let's go. Let's go back at it again and

2013
01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:38,280
Speaker 1: try again. Ready, one, two, three? Stud for he saw

2014
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:41,320
Speaker 1: his cats. You just it would scream stud. Let's get on.

2015
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:49,120
Speaker 7: Vince will Fork, big dog, Vince welfor big v Oh

2016
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:52,559
Speaker 7: my god, I wonder why something?

2017
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:56,240
Speaker 1: Thanks for something? The Black Thanksgiving is his favorite holiday.

2018
01:36:56,240 --> 01:36:58,880
Speaker 1: I bet start the clock. What's he? I gotta say,

2019
01:36:59,200 --> 01:36:59,879
Speaker 1: Vince Welfork.

2020
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:02,360
Speaker 2: He had six foot two and weighing around three hundred

2021
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:04,759
Speaker 2: and twenty five pounds, played as a dominant nose tackle

2022
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 2: in the NFL three primarily I think he was like

2023
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:10,760
Speaker 2: three fifty at one point in sixty primarily played for

2024
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:13,040
Speaker 2: the New England Patriots and later for the Houston Texans.

2025
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:17,280
Speaker 2: Growing up in boy Town Beach, Florida, I think so

2026
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 2: Boyton Boyton, boy Tom Beach, Florida, will Fork was a

2027
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:23,560
Speaker 2: track and field standout before switching to football at the

2028
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:26,760
Speaker 2: University of Miami. Selected twenty first overall in the two

2029
01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:29,880
Speaker 2: thousand and four draft, he was known for his strength, size,

2030
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:33,679
Speaker 2: and ability to stuff the run, often drawing double teams

2031
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:37,479
Speaker 2: and anchoring defenses with his power and scale. Over his career,

2032
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:40,679
Speaker 2: will Fork recorded five hundred and sixty tackles, sixteen sacks,

2033
01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:44,280
Speaker 2: and three interceptions, earning two Super Bowl championships five Pro

2034
01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:46,960
Speaker 2: Bowl selections in a reputation as one of the best

2035
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:48,320
Speaker 2: defense tackles.

2036
01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:48,439
Speaker 1: Of his era.

2037
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 2: Known for his charisma and a love for barbecue, he

2038
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:54,880
Speaker 2: has remained a beloved figure off the field, where his

2039
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:58,160
Speaker 2: big personality and big hits made him a fan favorite.

2040
01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:01,240
Speaker 2: That's a lot by Ai, the long synopsis. That's the

2041
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:04,280
Speaker 2: longest one we had so far. But Vince deserves it. Yeah,

2042
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:08,000
Speaker 2: deserves it. He's the biggest guy so far we've been

2043
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:10,280
Speaker 2: talking about. He's about three hundred and sixty five pounds.

2044
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:12,439
Speaker 2: I think they got it got it wrong there. This

2045
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:13,479
Speaker 2: guy can eat you up.

2046
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 1: Man. He's lost a lot of weight now, he sure has.

2047
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:19,439
Speaker 1: He looks really good, man, He really good. It looks

2048
01:38:19,520 --> 01:38:20,120
Speaker 1: good on him.

2049
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:23,280
Speaker 2: It's just sad that you know he's not coming back though,

2050
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:25,920
Speaker 2: you know, because every good player you always have that

2051
01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:27,960
Speaker 2: imagination that they're going to come back.

2052
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:30,599
Speaker 1: He never he always thought, vin I think Ve can

2053
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:33,680
Speaker 1: still play. You just have that thought about him. What's

2054
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:34,960
Speaker 1: the first thing that comes to your mind when you

2055
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:36,720
Speaker 1: think about Big V the barbecues.

2056
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:39,040
Speaker 2: You know, he came out with his own barbecue saw

2057
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:41,599
Speaker 2: some pretty sure. Mister Kraft used to have that team

2058
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:45,320
Speaker 2: get together, team bonding at his house in the Cape

2059
01:38:45,439 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 2: after you made the team. It was right at the

2060
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:51,320
Speaker 2: end of August. What howday's at right the end of August?

2061
01:38:51,680 --> 01:38:52,120
Speaker 1: Labor Day?

2062
01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Labor Day yep, and uh, it was Labor Day

2063
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:57,040
Speaker 2: week and we would all go up there and it'd

2064
01:38:57,040 --> 01:39:00,360
Speaker 2: be ribs or be you know, steaks, and here comes

2065
01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:03,640
Speaker 2: Big V coming through and he brings his own barbecue sauce.

2066
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:04,760
Speaker 1: Every single year.

2067
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 2: And I wouldn't eat those ribs or a sar line

2068
01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:11,479
Speaker 2: or you know, the burger meet until that barbecue sauce

2069
01:39:11,640 --> 01:39:14,240
Speaker 2: got there. And once Big V showed up, Hey, Big

2070
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:15,960
Speaker 2: V passed that sauce over, buddy.

2071
01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:16,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2072
01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:19,599
Speaker 2: He loved it too, man. He loved being known about

2073
01:39:19,640 --> 01:39:23,719
Speaker 2: that sauce. And he just loved just the atmosphere around

2074
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:24,360
Speaker 2: a cookout.

2075
01:39:24,520 --> 01:39:26,680
Speaker 1: For I was fortunate enough to get invited to one

2076
01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:30,880
Speaker 1: of his cookouts. He smokes some ribs. He was into

2077
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:34,000
Speaker 1: some big ass overalls with no shirt smoking ribs. He

2078
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:36,479
Speaker 1: just looks at home when he's on a barbecue. He

2079
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:39,479
Speaker 1: looks like that's he's at home. The first I remember

2080
01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:42,559
Speaker 1: when I was a rookie. He's comfortable. That's just comfort

2081
01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:44,880
Speaker 1: zone for him. It is I remember my rookie year.

2082
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:48,000
Speaker 1: My welcome to the NFL moment was like I was

2083
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:51,800
Speaker 1: rolling in, like my Toyota rental and I park it

2084
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 1: in the way back of the players a lot, and

2085
01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:55,840
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, there's this fucking huge semi a

2086
01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:59,720
Speaker 1: fucking semi truck rolls in and parks up right in

2087
01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:06,320
Speaker 1: the and takes like two damn spots backs in backs

2088
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:10,280
Speaker 1: in this big ass orange semi truck. It's fucking Vince's

2089
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:13,720
Speaker 1: daily driver. Vin's had like a huge semi truck daily driver.

2090
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:16,000
Speaker 1: He gets out of thinking and it looked just like

2091
01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:19,320
Speaker 1: him in front of the barbecue, just a comfort zone

2092
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:21,240
Speaker 1: for him. Just a big ass dude getting out of

2093
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:24,719
Speaker 1: a big ass truck. Big v was just fucking so cool.

2094
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:27,040
Speaker 1: That was like my first welcome bed and I was like,

2095
01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:29,759
Speaker 1: holy shit, I don't even know you can buy semi trucks.

2096
01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:32,560
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of welcome to the NFL, he gave me

2097
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:35,439
Speaker 2: my welcome to the NFL dosage of a.

2098
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:39,719
Speaker 1: Hit Wooden training camp rookie year. You know the wham block.

2099
01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 1: What's the wam block explained?

2100
01:40:41,320 --> 01:40:43,640
Speaker 2: Where they let go the guy let go. That's the

2101
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:46,679
Speaker 2: just defensive tackle free, so then he thinks he's gonna

2102
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:49,120
Speaker 2: go get a sack. And then a wham block is

2103
01:40:49,160 --> 01:40:51,120
Speaker 2: when I come across the line of scrimmage at the

2104
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 2: tight end position, when I'm off the ball, and I'm

2105
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:56,480
Speaker 2: the one that goes, and I wham the defensive.

2106
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:57,920
Speaker 1: Tackle and try to block on make a trap for

2107
01:40:58,000 --> 01:40:58,800
Speaker 1: this tight end.

2108
01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:02,280
Speaker 2: There you go exactly and we're trapping the defensive tackle,

2109
01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:03,679
Speaker 2: so he knows it's coming.

2110
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:05,760
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a specialty play that the New

2111
01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:08,320
Speaker 1: England Patriots been running nine nine seven. They know the

2112
01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:10,920
Speaker 1: fucking script well before me. Yeah it is.

2113
01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:13,559
Speaker 2: It was it was a nine nine to seven, so yeah,

2114
01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:15,680
Speaker 2: the defense does know the script so they can look

2115
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:18,639
Speaker 2: really good in the run game throughout that whole period.

2116
01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:21,559
Speaker 2: And I think they also told him this play was coming,

2117
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:25,280
Speaker 2: uh being specifically knowing I'm on the black Vince, and

2118
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:28,080
Speaker 2: they wanted to see my toughness as a rookie. So

2119
01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:32,120
Speaker 2: the players called I'm in full Paz. You know, I'm

2120
01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:34,160
Speaker 2: a wam block. I got to show my toughness. I

2121
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:35,800
Speaker 2: got to show my keeps. I got to get the

2122
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:39,240
Speaker 2: respect of my fellow teammates, especially the veterans.

2123
01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:42,160
Speaker 1: Way, let me paint the picture. Also, Rob's a rookie here.

2124
01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:46,280
Speaker 1: Vive was like the big dog on campus. In practice.

2125
01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:48,320
Speaker 1: No one really gets close to him because you don't

2126
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:50,320
Speaker 1: want to piss him off. When you're new, you know,

2127
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:53,280
Speaker 1: it's like, holy shit, is that a that is a

2128
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:56,200
Speaker 1: large human being. He's like so big, I think there's

2129
01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:59,200
Speaker 1: like something that orbits him, like on how round he is?

2130
01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:01,519
Speaker 1: Like that's you didn't want to get in his way.

2131
01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:03,000
Speaker 1: He didn't want to piss him off because he was

2132
01:42:03,200 --> 01:42:06,040
Speaker 1: very intimidating. Get back to your story. So the play,

2133
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:08,920
Speaker 1: you know, gets on its way. Do my little to

2134
01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:11,800
Speaker 1: you know, two side steps, you know on the motion.

2135
01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:15,400
Speaker 1: I'm running full speed right at Vince Wolford. This guy

2136
01:42:16,280 --> 01:42:20,400
Speaker 1: peeks over to his left. He sees me coming. He

2137
01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:23,360
Speaker 1: has this grin on his face. Knowing I was coming,

2138
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:26,800
Speaker 1: he put his shoulder down. I'm going full speed at him,

2139
01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 1: and he gets that leverage and just tease off on me.

2140
01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:35,479
Speaker 1: I went flying backwards five to six yards. I didn't

2141
01:42:35,479 --> 01:42:38,160
Speaker 1: even land on my back. He sent me flying in

2142
01:42:38,240 --> 01:42:40,720
Speaker 1: the air where I landed on my feet still. Oh

2143
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:41,320
Speaker 1: my god.

2144
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:44,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that hit hurt like a mother effort. But

2145
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:47,240
Speaker 2: what's cool is I gained the respect to my teammates

2146
01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:50,240
Speaker 2: and my coach at that time, tight end coach, in

2147
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:52,960
Speaker 2: that meeting that day when we went and reviewed the playerings.

2148
01:42:53,160 --> 01:42:56,479
Speaker 2: Brian Farrens, Love you, Brian Farrens. He's now at Iowa

2149
01:42:56,640 --> 01:42:58,599
Speaker 2: with his dad doing, you know, doing his thing.

2150
01:42:58,600 --> 01:42:59,400
Speaker 1: Doing a good job.

2151
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:02,599
Speaker 2: He goes, Yo, what were you thinking trying to block

2152
01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:05,559
Speaker 2: Vince Wolf for He goes, You're never gonna do that again.

2153
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 2: I go, thank you, thank you. I go, I'll never

2154
01:43:09,120 --> 01:43:11,120
Speaker 2: do it again. And ever since that day, you know,

2155
01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:13,080
Speaker 2: we had about five more of those calls, and I

2156
01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:13,840
Speaker 2: just go up to him.

2157
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:14,320
Speaker 1: I hug him.

2158
01:43:14,479 --> 01:43:16,080
Speaker 2: I didn't need to try to block him. It was

2159
01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:19,160
Speaker 2: just only gonna get me hurt from there on out. Yeah,

2160
01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 2: I just give him a hug, like Vince No, No,

2161
01:43:21,120 --> 01:43:22,880
Speaker 2: it's the way I'm black man. I know you're gonna

2162
01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:24,880
Speaker 2: beat me, like, there's there's no reason to go through

2163
01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:27,679
Speaker 2: this motion of me getting thrown backwards again.

2164
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:30,040
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm gonna break a rib.

2165
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:32,760
Speaker 2: He's so he's so sure you love your ribs and

2166
01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:35,559
Speaker 2: you're gonna you know, you'll probably eat him and join

2167
01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:37,120
Speaker 2: him after with your barbecue sauce.

2168
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:42,320
Speaker 1: Body. Oh my, that had to be so terrifying. It was,

2169
01:43:42,880 --> 01:43:45,600
Speaker 1: well at that time, it was intimidating guy when you

2170
01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:46,439
Speaker 1: joined the team.

2171
01:43:46,320 --> 01:43:49,439
Speaker 2: Too, terrifying after that because I was trying to, you know,

2172
01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:52,599
Speaker 2: gainer my keeps man like, I was trying to prove myself,

2173
01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:54,240
Speaker 2: so I didn't care who was in my way.

2174
01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:56,160
Speaker 1: And then I learned, I do care who's in my way.

2175
01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:58,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, and when when it comes down to the NFL,

2176
01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:01,320
Speaker 2: you gotta that's when you learn then when to you know,

2177
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:03,880
Speaker 2: take your shots to someone and when not to, when

2178
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:06,720
Speaker 2: to block someone hard, when to kind of like just

2179
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:09,479
Speaker 2: brother in law, box someone out as well, instead of

2180
01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:11,120
Speaker 2: trying to hit him full speak and you hit him

2181
01:44:11,120 --> 01:44:13,080
Speaker 2: full speed heads up. They you know, they're way bigger

2182
01:44:13,120 --> 01:44:15,000
Speaker 2: than you. This is when you started learning the ins

2183
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:17,920
Speaker 2: and outs. And that's one ins and out. I learned

2184
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:18,639
Speaker 2: big time.

2185
01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:21,800
Speaker 1: Freaking v And he was so quick too, Like that's

2186
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:24,920
Speaker 1: what people don't realize, like they just surprisingly.

2187
01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:26,639
Speaker 2: Quick because of how big he was and his feet

2188
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:28,400
Speaker 2: he had fast feet. Man, he was kind of like

2189
01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:32,559
Speaker 2: a running back. That pitter patters, like whoa big burp

2190
01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:35,160
Speaker 2: right there, Jules. Wow, was the barbecue I ate from

2191
01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:37,400
Speaker 2: five years ago with big vans and still coming out

2192
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:39,840
Speaker 2: we ate that much. I tasted that barbecue sauce right

2193
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:42,800
Speaker 2: that was good. But his feet were surprisingly click.

2194
01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:44,599
Speaker 1: He was like boom. He was a rabbit out there.

2195
01:44:45,160 --> 01:44:47,120
Speaker 1: I remember always going in the weight room and you

2196
01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:49,680
Speaker 1: go over by like the kettlebells and like the arm

2197
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:52,200
Speaker 1: bars and stuff, and there'd always be a shock put there.

2198
01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:54,240
Speaker 1: Remember him. You ever see him shot put? And I

2199
01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:56,320
Speaker 1: never have? Oh my god, he can shock. He was

2200
01:44:56,360 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 1: a fucking track star. I think he had like the

2201
01:44:58,320 --> 01:44:58,960
Speaker 1: state record.

2202
01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:02,280
Speaker 2: He had strength too. I remember like he wouldn't go

2203
01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:05,960
Speaker 2: in the weight room to just like warm up, you know,

2204
01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:09,360
Speaker 2: do three fifteen like five. He would just go in

2205
01:45:09,479 --> 01:45:12,080
Speaker 2: the weight room just to you know, maintain his strength.

2206
01:45:12,160 --> 01:45:14,120
Speaker 2: And he would just walk in and I remember him

2207
01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:16,679
Speaker 2: just throwing up like four hundred and twenty five pounds

2208
01:45:16,720 --> 01:45:18,960
Speaker 2: in the bench and just tossing it up then racking

2209
01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:22,240
Speaker 2: it and be like I'm done for today. Yeah, Like

2210
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:23,960
Speaker 2: he didn't even need to work on his strength that

2211
01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:26,760
Speaker 2: much because he was just that strong naturally and like

2212
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:28,400
Speaker 2: it was to a whole nother level.

2213
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember seeing him in the weight room toom

2214
01:45:30,439 --> 01:45:34,040
Speaker 1: he like Marcus Cannon. When he would work out, the

2215
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:37,800
Speaker 1: weights would bend. He was just so strong and he

2216
01:45:38,200 --> 01:45:41,040
Speaker 1: had always great movement like he was very He was

2217
01:45:41,240 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 1: very skillful, like fluid fluid. Like when you watch Big

2218
01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:48,200
Speaker 1: V throw football, he looks like like he spins the

2219
01:45:48,240 --> 01:45:50,960
Speaker 1: ball really well. You see him hit a golf ball.

2220
01:45:51,120 --> 01:45:54,240
Speaker 1: He fucking has an unbelievable golf swing. I mean, the

2221
01:45:54,320 --> 01:45:57,000
Speaker 1: guy is so athletic. He used to return punts in

2222
01:45:57,080 --> 01:46:00,280
Speaker 1: high school. Like I remember, you know, Bill always every

2223
01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:03,280
Speaker 1: training camp when it's getting to like day nine ten,

2224
01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:07,640
Speaker 1: guys who are worn down, beat up mentally, physically, emotionally exhausted,

2225
01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:10,200
Speaker 1: he'd always have a big lineman come in and try

2226
01:46:10,240 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 1: to catch a pun and if you caught punch, you'd

2227
01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:13,800
Speaker 1: have the night off. He threw v up there and

2228
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:15,720
Speaker 1: it looked too fucking easy. I think he went in

2229
01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:16,880
Speaker 1: snagged that thing was.

2230
01:46:17,160 --> 01:46:20,439
Speaker 2: He was so athletic. He could have played fullback. I

2231
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:23,240
Speaker 2: swear he could play running back and it gets gained

2232
01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:26,599
Speaker 2: some yards before going down tight end. He could definitely

2233
01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:29,640
Speaker 2: play I heard him talking about this too as well.

2234
01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:33,280
Speaker 2: He could play defensive end obviously, anywhere on the defensive line,

2235
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:35,240
Speaker 2: and he, like you said, quarterback as well.

2236
01:46:35,280 --> 01:46:35,880
Speaker 1: He had an arm.

2237
01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:38,240
Speaker 2: He loved being you know, before practice was going on,

2238
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:40,519
Speaker 2: you know, before we get really got into it, he'd

2239
01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:44,439
Speaker 2: be chucking the ball, you know, to his fellow defensive players,

2240
01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:47,480
Speaker 2: having a good old time. He was just so disruptive

2241
01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:49,519
Speaker 2: as well. And he was kind of like the two

2242
01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:53,360
Speaker 2: gap god when he was, you know, on that defensive

2243
01:46:53,400 --> 01:46:56,080
Speaker 2: line and being able to take two gaps. You know

2244
01:46:56,160 --> 01:46:59,080
Speaker 2: how much Steff Freese, that linebacker, that's a linebacker's best

2245
01:46:59,080 --> 01:47:01,600
Speaker 2: friend right there, Vince Well, I.

2246
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:05,599
Speaker 1: Mean, Drod Mayo, Dante high Tower, Jamie Caul, they all

2247
01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:07,800
Speaker 1: love them. They all do it. And guys like they

2248
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 1: love guys that take double teams. Lets you get to

2249
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:13,560
Speaker 1: that fucking kind of Big V just said. Big V

2250
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:16,880
Speaker 1: has so many stats. He had so much production for

2251
01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:20,559
Speaker 1: the amount of stats he had, because he had such

2252
01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:24,920
Speaker 1: hidden things that made plays go. It was unblockable, and

2253
01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:27,600
Speaker 1: you take two double teams, they can never get the

2254
01:47:27,720 --> 01:47:30,839
Speaker 1: guy to the second level. Like he just was fucking

2255
01:47:31,200 --> 01:47:34,080
Speaker 1: a monster. And we wanted to talk about him on

2256
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:39,080
Speaker 1: this show specifically because because what is he known for

2257
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:43,120
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving, Jules, He's the one that created the butt but.

2258
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:51,439
Speaker 2: The force, the generator of the butt fumball versus the

2259
01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:57,360
Speaker 2: New York Jets. Sanchez, Oh my god, he did that before.

2260
01:47:57,760 --> 01:48:00,840
Speaker 2: Like he it's where he gets so much penetration.

2261
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:04,800
Speaker 1: He drives his guy back so far that it hit

2262
01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:08,360
Speaker 1: the quarterback with the guy that he was driving backs.

2263
01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:13,240
Speaker 1: But that made him fumble the football and Steve Gregory

2264
01:48:13,360 --> 01:48:17,360
Speaker 1: scoop score in his home area of New Jersey, which

2265
01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:20,880
Speaker 1: was just a fucking crazy game. That comes to my

2266
01:48:21,080 --> 01:48:23,960
Speaker 1: mind when I think events of some of his crazy stories.

2267
01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:26,840
Speaker 1: But also remember when we were in Buffalo and he

2268
01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:29,800
Speaker 1: read out the receivers Stron what was he rewarded with?

2269
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:30,160
Speaker 5: Though?

2270
01:48:30,439 --> 01:48:32,439
Speaker 1: After that we had the turkey on the post game,

2271
01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:34,439
Speaker 1: he had the turkey leg. He had the turkey leg.

2272
01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:38,000
Speaker 2: He rewarded with a turkey leg during the post game

2273
01:48:38,120 --> 01:48:40,320
Speaker 2: for his contribution to the butt.

2274
01:48:40,120 --> 01:48:42,280
Speaker 1: Fumble, and he ate that thing. He ate it all.

2275
01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:44,840
Speaker 1: Not surprised. So what was it that you were talking

2276
01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:47,240
Speaker 1: about in Buffalo? Remember in Buffalo where they had that

2277
01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:51,800
Speaker 1: receiver screen and v read it and he was full

2278
01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:55,639
Speaker 1: full speed and a receiver was full speed, not seeing him,

2279
01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:57,439
Speaker 1: and it looked like it looked like it was semi

2280
01:48:57,520 --> 01:49:00,280
Speaker 1: hit like one of those little smart cars. Oh my god, gosh,

2281
01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:01,920
Speaker 1: this this is the receiver.

2282
01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:04,040
Speaker 2: Like he was up, he was up, and them like

2283
01:49:04,160 --> 01:49:06,560
Speaker 2: your finger just got bent backwards in matter of a

2284
01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:07,559
Speaker 2: split second.

2285
01:49:07,560 --> 01:49:09,840
Speaker 1: Boom. That looked like the receiver right there. Boom. It's

2286
01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:12,479
Speaker 1: not even that, it's not even the mass. Imagine if

2287
01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:15,240
Speaker 1: he like fell on you going that fast, at least

2288
01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:19,360
Speaker 1: you like a bug, like a fucking bug. I bet

2289
01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:20,519
Speaker 1: you got his why out.

2290
01:49:20,360 --> 01:49:23,120
Speaker 2: Of the air and it just explodes everywhere. That's kind

2291
01:49:23,160 --> 01:49:24,880
Speaker 2: of what happened to the Bills Wide receiver.

2292
01:49:25,600 --> 01:49:28,760
Speaker 1: And you always they flattened him, No, it was it

2293
01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:32,080
Speaker 1: was that's a terrifying hit. Like that's like, that was

2294
01:49:32,160 --> 01:49:34,000
Speaker 1: a terrifying hit. There's a lot of big hits that

2295
01:49:34,040 --> 01:49:35,519
Speaker 1: you see. You're like, all right, you can you can

2296
01:49:35,560 --> 01:49:39,000
Speaker 1: withstand that. But when it's it's straight physics. When you

2297
01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:44,200
Speaker 1: got mass times velocity, you get forced, you get fucking force.

2298
01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:46,800
Speaker 1: And that's what Big V was. I don't know if

2299
01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:48,920
Speaker 1: that's right for you physics people get us in there.

2300
01:49:49,280 --> 01:49:52,559
Speaker 1: But then also what about what about his interceptions? We're

2301
01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:55,120
Speaker 1: talking big plays here. I mean he had that that

2302
01:49:55,320 --> 01:49:59,519
Speaker 1: pick versus Philip Rivers at home in Gillette Stadium when

2303
01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:01,479
Speaker 1: he was was that another screen or he was just

2304
01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:04,200
Speaker 1: I think he was he got tipped or somebody.

2305
01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:05,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, did he tip it?

2306
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:06,680
Speaker 1: Did he tip it?

2307
01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he tipped it to himself. He showed great ball

2308
01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:12,120
Speaker 2: skills right there. And then then you saw your fast feet, yes,

2309
01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:14,400
Speaker 2: and then he started just you know, trucking down the

2310
01:50:14,439 --> 01:50:17,200
Speaker 2: field like a rabbit with his fast feet. He looked nimble,

2311
01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:21,400
Speaker 2: and he looked agile and just rumbling down the field.

2312
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:26,120
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone in the world that watched that play,

2313
01:50:27,120 --> 01:50:29,760
Speaker 1: anyone in the world didn't want that big man to

2314
01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:34,200
Speaker 1: score when a big man has because the ball looked

2315
01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:37,080
Speaker 1: like a fucking like, uh, a paper talent is in

2316
01:50:37,160 --> 01:50:41,559
Speaker 1: his armpit, a loaf of bread. I mean it pumper nickel,

2317
01:50:41,800 --> 01:50:45,360
Speaker 1: pumper nickel. It looks so small and he's like running

2318
01:50:45,479 --> 01:50:47,960
Speaker 1: it and like everyone is just sitting there, like, look

2319
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:52,320
Speaker 1: at the big big go Remember Komley also did that

2320
01:50:52,520 --> 01:50:57,200
Speaker 1: and they kick off return packers. I love big man

2321
01:50:57,240 --> 01:51:01,120
Speaker 1: get or score a touchdown, score touch his own. A soldier,

2322
01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:04,040
Speaker 1: everyone loves it man. A soldier had that one the

2323
01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:06,880
Speaker 1: Lions are doing it a lot. Lions are doing it.

2324
01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:10,080
Speaker 2: We're speaking of Thanksgiving, you know, teams Lions in there,

2325
01:51:10,479 --> 01:51:14,280
Speaker 2: you know, don't don't not expect a trick play to

2326
01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:16,719
Speaker 2: alignment this Thanksgiving from the Detroit Lions.

2327
01:51:17,240 --> 01:51:19,559
Speaker 1: I mean, or a fake punt. You're gonna, You're gonna.

2328
01:51:19,560 --> 01:51:22,040
Speaker 1: There's gonna be something like that. We we talked about

2329
01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:25,360
Speaker 1: on this show a few weeks back. Tight End University

2330
01:51:25,439 --> 01:51:28,400
Speaker 1: Day or Happy tight End Day, what's called National tight

2331
01:51:28,479 --> 01:51:30,320
Speaker 1: End Day, National tight End There's got to be a

2332
01:51:30,439 --> 01:51:34,120
Speaker 1: national big Guy touchdown Day or a big Guy catch Day.

2333
01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:36,360
Speaker 1: It just needs to be national bing Like.

2334
01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:39,840
Speaker 2: It's a rule in the NFL book that you have

2335
01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:44,439
Speaker 2: to at least run one tackle eligible, play.

2336
01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:48,040
Speaker 1: One tackle eligible. The guy has to be over two

2337
01:51:48,479 --> 01:51:52,040
Speaker 1: and seventy five pounds and eighty five pounds has to

2338
01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:56,360
Speaker 1: touch a football on one specific day, National Big Fat

2339
01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:58,760
Speaker 1: Guy Day. I like that. That's what I think. We

2340
01:51:59,080 --> 01:52:01,679
Speaker 1: like that. Who's gonna stay? I think we need Big V. Yeah,

2341
01:52:01,800 --> 01:52:04,000
Speaker 1: Big V, come on, let's go. You remember in the

2342
01:52:04,040 --> 01:52:07,280
Speaker 1: butt foomball game. I remember watching it the next day

2343
01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:11,599
Speaker 1: in meetings. Bill rewinded it like four or five times,

2344
01:52:12,080 --> 01:52:14,960
Speaker 1: barely said anything, and then like got up and talked

2345
01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:18,400
Speaker 1: and he said, the Jets got exactly what they deserved,

2346
01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:22,120
Speaker 1: like did something like one of those you know, do

2347
01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:24,639
Speaker 1: you remember that. I actually was hurt that year duel.

2348
01:52:24,760 --> 01:52:26,880
Speaker 2: So I was at home just watching it from my couch,

2349
01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:31,839
Speaker 2: just enjoying my Thanksgiving, and I just remember that play happening.

2350
01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:36,640
Speaker 2: I was shocked because we were already dominating that, dominating.

2351
01:52:36,280 --> 01:52:37,000
Speaker 1: Dominating them.

2352
01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:39,439
Speaker 2: It wasn't even a close game at all. And just

2353
01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:42,600
Speaker 2: when that happened, I was giggling to myself, like what

2354
01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:45,360
Speaker 2: a play. I never seen anything like that. And I

2355
01:52:45,560 --> 01:52:48,439
Speaker 2: was screaming too, because Gregory just scooped it like it

2356
01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:51,400
Speaker 2: just didn't happen, a butt fumble and directly in his hands. No,

2357
01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:53,639
Speaker 2: directly on the ground and directly in the Gregory's hand.

2358
01:52:54,160 --> 01:52:56,880
Speaker 2: It went to the end zone of the Patriots as well.

2359
01:52:56,920 --> 01:52:59,680
Speaker 2: We got six points out of it. It's like it

2360
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:02,519
Speaker 2: that doesn't happen usually, usually, like a play like that,

2361
01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:04,639
Speaker 2: you know, usually someone just gets on it and it's

2362
01:53:04,640 --> 01:53:05,439
Speaker 2: a fumble recovery.

2363
01:53:05,479 --> 01:53:08,120
Speaker 1: It went to the house. We scored on it. How

2364
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:10,760
Speaker 1: do you think sanchiz or Sanchito feels about that?

2365
01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:14,000
Speaker 2: I mean, Sanchiz is a good dude, was a goofy dude,

2366
01:53:14,560 --> 01:53:16,560
Speaker 2: so I think he kind of likes it.

2367
01:53:17,080 --> 01:53:18,519
Speaker 1: I think he does owns it.

2368
01:53:18,760 --> 01:53:23,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he does own it for sure. He'll giggle

2369
01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:26,200
Speaker 2: about it for sure. It's kind of like the Miami miracle.

2370
01:53:26,240 --> 01:53:28,400
Speaker 2: I own that play. Yeah, he's kind of like the

2371
01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:31,120
Speaker 2: butt fumble with Sanchez. I mean it's okay, I mean,

2372
01:53:31,360 --> 01:53:31,920
Speaker 2: it happens.

2373
01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:34,560
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the two thousand and four or

2374
01:53:34,640 --> 01:53:38,639
Speaker 1: two thousand and two frosh Off Championship between the Bee

2375
01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:41,479
Speaker 1: Division Ocean Division. You know, I gave this interception away

2376
01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:43,200
Speaker 1: and they won it on it. It's kind of like

2377
01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:46,439
Speaker 1: you own it now, fucking him a I'll never own it.

2378
01:53:47,120 --> 01:53:50,479
Speaker 2: It's bullshit. It's okay, Jules. One day you'll own it.

2379
01:53:50,720 --> 01:53:53,479
Speaker 2: You'll get over it. It's okay, man, we're here for it.

2380
01:53:53,680 --> 01:53:55,479
Speaker 2: Just be thankful for other things and then.

2381
01:53:55,400 --> 01:53:57,720
Speaker 1: You'll get over that. You know what. I'm also thankful for.

2382
01:53:57,960 --> 01:53:58,800
Speaker 1: What are you thankful for?

2383
01:53:59,160 --> 01:53:59,200
Speaker 2: That?

2384
01:53:59,400 --> 01:54:02,240
Speaker 1: We were a part of probably two of the craziest

2385
01:54:02,280 --> 01:54:06,400
Speaker 1: play calls in the history of football. One the butt fumble. Yes,

2386
01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:09,880
Speaker 1: what's more embarrassing the butt fumble? Or do you remember

2387
01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:14,240
Speaker 1: when the Colts had that stupid punt formation that they tried.

2388
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:17,800
Speaker 2: It sad it was fourth and two and they were

2389
01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:21,479
Speaker 2: trying to get us on a trick more than four.

2390
01:54:21,680 --> 01:54:23,880
Speaker 2: It was a weird formation they had, like everyone spread

2391
01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:27,280
Speaker 2: out wide and then the center was down in distance

2392
01:54:27,320 --> 01:54:29,080
Speaker 2: and then there was a running back behind the center

2393
01:54:29,200 --> 01:54:32,320
Speaker 2: or something, and then they hiked it and everyone was

2394
01:54:32,360 --> 01:54:35,080
Speaker 2: in like in shock, like what that.

2395
01:54:36,640 --> 01:54:39,400
Speaker 1: Going? And that's the only reason I bring this up

2396
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:42,360
Speaker 1: is because the same shock factor that we had that like,

2397
01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:45,680
Speaker 1: did that but just make that fumble and then we

2398
01:54:45,720 --> 01:54:48,400
Speaker 1: scored a touchdown. That same shock factor is the same

2399
01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:51,560
Speaker 1: shock factor we had when they did this punt formation thing.

2400
01:54:51,800 --> 01:54:53,960
Speaker 2: Did he really hiked the ball?

2401
01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:57,440
Speaker 1: I'm not a math guy, but three on one, I'm

2402
01:54:57,480 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 1: looking at the Colt sideline right here after the play.

2403
01:55:00,440 --> 01:55:06,240
Speaker 1: Are you fucking serious? What is this? Like? This is

2404
01:55:06,280 --> 01:55:09,000
Speaker 1: a National Football League and they're only down by six

2405
01:55:09,080 --> 01:55:11,240
Speaker 1: in the third quarter. I don't know. That's the cults

2406
01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:13,720
Speaker 1: for you. That was that was worse so than the

2407
01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:17,120
Speaker 1: buff fumble. Yeah, because both that's made through force in

2408
01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:21,680
Speaker 1: gravity exactly. The butt fumble was made by Vince in

2409
01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:27,240
Speaker 1: that fucking three hundred and twenty five pound frame twenty

2410
01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:32,920
Speaker 1: five pound frame, taking his matchup and driving him into

2411
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:38,000
Speaker 1: the fucking I'm flabberg acid. I didn't realize we were

2412
01:55:38,040 --> 01:55:40,000
Speaker 1: going to get into that play. I think they rose

2413
01:55:40,040 --> 01:55:42,000
Speaker 1: the banner that year. That's why I never lost. Was

2414
01:55:42,040 --> 01:55:43,880
Speaker 1: that the banner year they rose? They never lost to

2415
01:55:43,960 --> 01:55:45,720
Speaker 1: the Colt. Did we ever lose to the Colts? I

2416
01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:49,280
Speaker 1: did in two thousand and nine four two, Yeah, so

2417
01:55:49,360 --> 01:55:52,400
Speaker 1: it doesn't count. How about the big boy on Body Issues?

2418
01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:56,040
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's not like it looks like muscle.

2419
01:55:56,760 --> 01:55:57,480
Speaker 1: It is muscle.

2420
01:55:57,920 --> 01:56:00,000
Speaker 2: That's why I love the ESPN the Body Issue because

2421
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:02,040
Speaker 2: they featured everyone.

2422
01:56:02,360 --> 01:56:05,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they were just showing how were you on it?

2423
01:56:05,600 --> 01:56:09,000
Speaker 2: The statue? Yes, how the statue of the body representing

2424
01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:12,640
Speaker 2: all different types of athletes, from a guy that played

2425
01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:17,960
Speaker 2: tackle to a wide receiver to myself right there? Young,

2426
01:56:18,640 --> 01:56:20,520
Speaker 2: You want to know, the running joke was about me,

2427
01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:23,520
Speaker 2: I'm being on the Body Issue cover?

2428
01:56:23,760 --> 01:56:27,000
Speaker 1: What was that? The circle? It was really small that

2429
01:56:27,120 --> 01:56:32,360
Speaker 1: they needed to use. What circle? The cover? Me out? Yeah?

2430
01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:34,680
Speaker 1: You know what, I didn't they tell you it was

2431
01:56:34,680 --> 01:56:36,600
Speaker 1: going to be a small set, like there's not gonna

2432
01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:37,400
Speaker 1: be a lot of people there.

2433
01:56:37,600 --> 01:56:40,040
Speaker 2: There really wasn't There's probably like five, five or six.

2434
01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:41,560
Speaker 2: How many people were on your I feel like there

2435
01:56:41,640 --> 01:56:42,560
Speaker 2: was thirty in mine.

2436
01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:43,400
Speaker 1: Really thirty.

2437
01:56:43,440 --> 01:56:45,400
Speaker 2: I wanted to see you, Jules. You're a good looking guy.

2438
01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:46,920
Speaker 2: I had a wonderful body.

2439
01:56:47,280 --> 01:56:50,040
Speaker 1: Now, how did the How did the football stay on?

2440
01:56:50,360 --> 01:56:51,160
Speaker 1: It's a good question.

2441
01:56:52,040 --> 01:56:54,960
Speaker 2: I was kind of adjusting it before every shot, and

2442
01:56:55,120 --> 01:56:58,160
Speaker 2: then I kind of adjusted it so I kind of

2443
01:56:58,240 --> 01:56:59,240
Speaker 2: found that niche did.

2444
01:56:59,160 --> 01:57:01,800
Speaker 1: You take to keep that thing staked up so you

2445
01:57:01,880 --> 01:57:03,040
Speaker 1: could just post it on there?

2446
01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:06,400
Speaker 2: No? No, it was actually one of the worst performance

2447
01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:09,480
Speaker 2: looking days of my life. It was kind of chilly

2448
01:57:09,520 --> 01:57:14,200
Speaker 2: in there. I felt like I felt like a frozen raisin. Yeah,

2449
01:57:14,800 --> 01:57:18,600
Speaker 2: and I was just giggling at myself every time I

2450
01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:19,760
Speaker 2: look back at the pictures.

2451
01:57:20,400 --> 01:57:23,200
Speaker 1: It was bad. Yeah, it was bad. It was bad.

2452
01:57:23,400 --> 01:57:26,160
Speaker 1: I was embarrassed just looking at it myself. It was

2453
01:57:26,280 --> 01:57:28,680
Speaker 1: crazy because like you would see like a picture after

2454
01:57:29,080 --> 01:57:31,680
Speaker 1: you know, you'd go with the photographer and your your

2455
01:57:31,720 --> 01:57:34,480
Speaker 1: wiener would be out and you'd see the picture and

2456
01:57:34,560 --> 01:57:36,960
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden they'd be like, oh, don't worry,

2457
01:57:37,000 --> 01:57:37,680
Speaker 1: we could just cut that.

2458
01:57:37,880 --> 01:57:40,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're sitting there worrying because you're like you're

2459
01:57:40,720 --> 01:57:45,520
Speaker 2: gonna go tell everyone you know, and then that person

2460
01:57:45,600 --> 01:57:46,120
Speaker 2: that's reviewing.

2461
01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:50,560
Speaker 1: I requested three degrees in the shoot set. It was

2462
01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:55,960
Speaker 1: sixty ten minutes. What kind of dude is Vince will

2463
01:57:56,080 --> 01:58:01,480
Speaker 1: fork stud A freak, a dog, a dude's dude, or

2464
01:58:01,560 --> 01:58:03,880
Speaker 1: a whiz. I mean, he's a waste.

2465
01:58:04,360 --> 01:58:08,560
Speaker 2: He has a lot of intellectual and knowledge of the

2466
01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:10,920
Speaker 2: game of football. I mean, he was a smart player.

2467
01:58:11,040 --> 01:58:13,560
Speaker 2: That's why he knew that big play that he made

2468
01:58:13,600 --> 01:58:15,640
Speaker 2: when we were talking about it versus the Buffalo Bills,

2469
01:58:15,680 --> 01:58:18,360
Speaker 2: and he absolutely dominated the receiver on that screen across

2470
01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:20,920
Speaker 2: the middle because he saw that play coming. He sniffed

2471
01:58:20,920 --> 01:58:22,800
Speaker 2: it out like he was a wizard out there. That's

2472
01:58:22,840 --> 01:58:25,200
Speaker 2: how he made majority of his play same with his interceptions.

2473
01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:26,360
Speaker 2: He knew the screen was coming.

2474
01:58:26,440 --> 01:58:27,080
Speaker 1: He backed off.

2475
01:58:27,200 --> 01:58:29,040
Speaker 2: He knew that when he got dropped, he wasn't going

2476
01:58:29,120 --> 01:58:31,040
Speaker 2: to just go to the quarterback and get a free sack.

2477
01:58:31,120 --> 01:58:34,080
Speaker 2: He knew there must be a different type of play coming. Oh,

2478
01:58:34,120 --> 01:58:36,120
Speaker 2: it's going to be a screen or it's a gimmick

2479
01:58:36,200 --> 01:58:38,480
Speaker 2: or something. I mean, he was smart, bro, He was

2480
01:58:38,680 --> 01:58:41,400
Speaker 2: very smart on that football field, I'm telling you. I mean, yeah,

2481
01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:44,320
Speaker 2: he was a freak for his size, I mean three sixty,

2482
01:58:44,560 --> 01:58:46,800
Speaker 2: just the way that he could move, his athletic ability

2483
01:58:47,040 --> 01:58:49,760
Speaker 2: kind of a dude's dude as well, with his barbecues. Man,

2484
01:58:50,200 --> 01:58:53,960
Speaker 2: inviting the guys over and having that barbecue sauce for everyone.

2485
01:58:54,320 --> 01:58:56,680
Speaker 1: He's also a fucking dog. Yeah, he was a dog.

2486
01:58:56,800 --> 01:58:58,920
Speaker 1: He was grimy in there. Oh yeah, when you're the

2487
01:58:59,040 --> 01:59:01,840
Speaker 1: guy taking the dumble team the whole time, and you

2488
01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:04,640
Speaker 1: know you have to go getting six hundred pounds every

2489
01:59:04,800 --> 01:59:08,040
Speaker 1: fucking play because he's taking double teams every play, six

2490
01:59:08,120 --> 01:59:08,640
Speaker 1: hundred pounds.

2491
01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:10,960
Speaker 2: And he would take those double teams and kind of

2492
01:59:11,080 --> 01:59:13,840
Speaker 2: just eat those double teams up, he really would, and

2493
01:59:14,040 --> 01:59:16,200
Speaker 2: just let that linebacker just free to go in and

2494
01:59:16,280 --> 01:59:16,920
Speaker 2: make the place.

2495
01:59:17,480 --> 01:59:20,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a fucking stud atletics. He is, man,

2496
01:59:20,760 --> 01:59:23,560
Speaker 1: I mean he could shoot a basketball. I mean he's

2497
01:59:23,600 --> 01:59:26,800
Speaker 1: insane thrower of the football. You watch his golf swing,

2498
01:59:26,880 --> 01:59:29,120
Speaker 1: You're like, holy fuck, I think he's scratched golf. This

2499
01:59:29,240 --> 01:59:30,360
Speaker 1: is a true tough one. Man.

2500
01:59:30,440 --> 01:59:33,760
Speaker 2: This is really tough to really categorize and pinpoint Vince

2501
01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:35,600
Speaker 2: Wolfork to just one category.

2502
01:59:36,120 --> 01:59:38,240
Speaker 1: Man, it's gonna be tough on three. What do you

2503
01:59:38,320 --> 01:59:38,920
Speaker 1: expect one?

2504
01:59:39,000 --> 01:59:39,120
Speaker 2: Oh?

2505
01:59:39,200 --> 01:59:41,480
Speaker 1: Man? Hold on, let me keep thinking about this. Man.

2506
01:59:41,760 --> 01:59:51,080
Speaker 1: Oh alright, alright, one two three, freuiz ah man oh man,

2507
01:59:51,640 --> 01:59:53,720
Speaker 1: I know, man, he is a freaked.

2508
01:59:53,360 --> 01:59:55,720
Speaker 2: Though, but he's he's so smart. Man, I'm telling you

2509
01:59:55,840 --> 01:59:57,240
Speaker 2: he's a smart football player.

2510
01:59:57,280 --> 01:59:59,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that goes into his freakiness where you think

2511
01:59:59,360 --> 02:00:02,760
Speaker 1: a guy that looks like him is smart. He's great.

2512
02:00:03,200 --> 02:00:05,480
Speaker 2: He's great in commercials too, like you see him in

2513
02:00:05,560 --> 02:00:07,200
Speaker 2: that stove commercials.

2514
02:00:06,680 --> 02:00:09,040
Speaker 1: Now, like grilling and all that he's on TV.

2515
02:00:09,400 --> 02:00:12,520
Speaker 2: But you also just sit there like smart large gotta

2516
02:00:12,560 --> 02:00:15,240
Speaker 2: be smart large guy right now. That, like we said,

2517
02:00:15,280 --> 02:00:18,120
Speaker 2: we're categorizing freaks. As you're just looking at someone You're like,

2518
02:00:18,200 --> 02:00:19,560
Speaker 2: how can they possibly do that?

2519
02:00:20,280 --> 02:00:24,320
Speaker 1: And that size also also like f can we say, yeah,

2520
02:00:24,480 --> 02:00:27,080
Speaker 1: he's he's a wizard though. Can you agree with that?

2521
02:00:27,320 --> 02:00:31,320
Speaker 1: I'm I mean, I always, I mean Bill talking about

2522
02:00:31,320 --> 02:00:33,600
Speaker 1: how smart he is a football player instinctive.

2523
02:00:34,040 --> 02:00:36,880
Speaker 2: So I do agree he is a freak of nature.

2524
02:00:37,000 --> 02:00:39,720
Speaker 2: I mean obviously to be that size, to move, you know,

2525
02:00:39,880 --> 02:00:42,200
Speaker 2: to move that well on the football field, take on

2526
02:00:42,320 --> 02:00:44,720
Speaker 2: double teams and just squash him. Just the way he

2527
02:00:44,840 --> 02:00:47,000
Speaker 2: tackled guys too. They would go right down. There was

2528
02:00:47,040 --> 02:00:49,560
Speaker 2: no mistackles by Vince Wallfork when he got your hands on.

2529
02:00:49,600 --> 02:00:52,920
Speaker 1: You, no, so he drape you down and he's swallow you.

2530
02:00:53,120 --> 02:00:57,080
Speaker 1: All right, we'll try again. Let's do it again. One, two, three,

2531
02:00:57,440 --> 02:01:01,760
Speaker 1: freak stamp it. We'll be right back after this quick break.

2532
02:01:02,400 --> 02:01:06,480
Speaker 2: I'm feeling pretty good off one beer? Are you actually

2533
02:01:06,600 --> 02:01:08,400
Speaker 2: like seventh eighth of a beer?

2534
02:01:08,640 --> 02:01:11,400
Speaker 1: Math? Not one beer yet? Math guy? What is our

2535
02:01:11,440 --> 02:01:11,840
Speaker 1: next guy?

2536
02:01:11,920 --> 02:01:12,520
Speaker 2: Isn't this the guy?

2537
02:01:12,640 --> 02:01:14,320
Speaker 1: The next guy isn't the guy that we play with?

2538
02:01:14,560 --> 02:01:18,240
Speaker 1: Who do we got? Oh? We got number seventy six

2539
02:01:18,640 --> 02:01:22,640
Speaker 1: by Michael By You freak we got? Oh?

2540
02:01:22,880 --> 02:01:25,680
Speaker 2: I don't want him to see me, like, don't show that,

2541
02:01:25,880 --> 02:01:27,360
Speaker 2: like I just do a picture. I don't want to

2542
02:01:27,440 --> 02:01:29,480
Speaker 2: come after me. He's a freak.

2543
02:01:29,560 --> 02:01:32,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a freak. But all right, all right, back

2544
02:01:32,720 --> 02:01:35,080
Speaker 1: to Sebastian. I'm gonna have I'm gonna hire Sebastian to

2545
02:01:35,200 --> 02:01:35,840
Speaker 1: be my body guy.

2546
02:01:36,680 --> 02:01:41,200
Speaker 2: A second round pick and I think two ten, two

2547
02:01:41,240 --> 02:01:47,480
Speaker 2: thousand and nine, maybe some Bastian vomber Sebastian v aka

2548
02:01:47,640 --> 02:01:51,480
Speaker 2: Sea bass Sea bass kick his assert the clock?

2549
02:01:51,920 --> 02:01:53,320
Speaker 1: What does a I have to say about him?

2550
02:01:53,320 --> 02:01:56,440
Speaker 2: Bump bump bum Ai. Let's see if AI knows anything

2551
02:01:56,720 --> 02:02:02,360
Speaker 2: done shumming people. Sebustan was a prolific offensive tackle for

2552
02:02:02,440 --> 02:02:05,800
Speaker 2: the New England Patriots, known for his six eight frame

2553
02:02:06,240 --> 02:02:09,000
Speaker 2: and three hundred and twenty pounds of strength.

2554
02:02:09,240 --> 02:02:13,520
Speaker 1: Strength, you know, strong if veritall, veritall. It made me

2555
02:02:14,240 --> 02:02:16,920
Speaker 1: feel like a dwarf, like a little boy.

2556
02:02:17,160 --> 02:02:19,680
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I was a little boy out there actually.

2557
02:02:20,600 --> 02:02:24,040
Speaker 2: Over his career, he started eighty of his eighty eight

2558
02:02:24,160 --> 02:02:27,640
Speaker 2: games that he played, helping the Patriots win two Super Bowls,

2559
02:02:27,920 --> 02:02:30,480
Speaker 2: super Bowl forty nine and Super Bowl fifty one.

2560
02:02:30,960 --> 02:02:35,879
Speaker 1: Born in Dosseldorf, Germany, Dolf dosl doof.

2561
02:02:36,960 --> 02:02:42,040
Speaker 2: Vohmer didn't start playing football until he was fourteen fourteen

2562
02:02:43,320 --> 02:02:49,200
Speaker 2: fourteen four yeah one four nine. After retiring in twenty sixteen,

2563
02:02:49,280 --> 02:02:53,560
Speaker 2: he became a booming NFL broadcaster in Germany, often acting

2564
02:02:53,680 --> 02:02:57,840
Speaker 2: as a Patriots ambassador off the field. He's known for

2565
02:02:57,920 --> 02:03:01,280
Speaker 2: his down to earth personality and delicatetion to promoting football

2566
02:03:01,640 --> 02:03:04,560
Speaker 2: in his home country and some fun facts real quick.

2567
02:03:04,600 --> 02:03:08,120
Speaker 2: Volmer was one a barbecue cookoff in his neighborhood. What

2568
02:03:08,280 --> 02:03:09,320
Speaker 2: a fun fact that is?

2569
02:03:09,520 --> 02:03:12,960
Speaker 1: Won a barbecue cookoff in his neighborhood. Ai man, Hey,

2570
02:03:13,080 --> 02:03:14,840
Speaker 1: I where did you pull that from?

2571
02:03:14,960 --> 02:03:15,080
Speaker 5: Oh?

2572
02:03:15,160 --> 02:03:17,760
Speaker 2: My he's an avid beekeeper.

2573
02:03:17,920 --> 02:03:20,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's a beekeeper. He ate all his honey,

2574
02:03:22,560 --> 02:03:23,440
Speaker 1: He ate all his honey.

2575
02:03:23,520 --> 02:03:25,800
Speaker 2: So he's six eight, that is why six a and

2576
02:03:26,080 --> 02:03:30,200
Speaker 2: freaking tosses up weight like it's nothing, nothing, nothing, That's

2577
02:03:30,240 --> 02:03:33,400
Speaker 2: where I was going. And he once accidentally locked himself

2578
02:03:33,680 --> 02:03:37,400
Speaker 2: out of his own house while wearing only his underwear.

2579
02:03:38,040 --> 02:03:40,000
Speaker 1: That's on Ai, What the heck?

2580
02:03:40,720 --> 02:03:44,360
Speaker 2: I think I love Sebastian even more. That's a Sebastian

2581
02:03:44,440 --> 02:03:47,040
Speaker 2: type move though. That's a sea bass move right there.

2582
02:03:47,160 --> 02:03:49,240
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Seabach, Oh my god.

2583
02:03:49,360 --> 02:03:50,360
Speaker 1: He was so large.

2584
02:03:50,440 --> 02:03:52,440
Speaker 2: But he was so large and so strong he could

2585
02:03:52,440 --> 02:03:54,840
Speaker 2: have probably just lifted up his own house like you

2586
02:03:54,920 --> 02:03:58,280
Speaker 2: know Patrick on SpongeBob, how he just lifts up the

2587
02:03:58,360 --> 02:03:59,680
Speaker 2: rock in his house and goes And he should have

2588
02:03:59,720 --> 02:04:01,120
Speaker 2: just lift up his house like threw it up in

2589
02:04:01,160 --> 02:04:02,560
Speaker 2: the air real quick and then went under it, and

2590
02:04:02,640 --> 02:04:04,000
Speaker 2: then he would have been fine.

2591
02:04:04,720 --> 02:04:05,160
Speaker 5: He lit.

2592
02:04:05,320 --> 02:04:07,240
Speaker 1: We all used to live next to each other h

2593
02:04:07,760 --> 02:04:10,200
Speaker 1: in that street, Yeah, we did. He could definitely probably

2594
02:04:10,240 --> 02:04:11,720
Speaker 1: lift that house up. What was the name of that

2595
02:04:11,800 --> 02:04:16,280
Speaker 1: street again, was it Chay Lane? I was Shae Lane.

2596
02:04:16,800 --> 02:04:19,120
Speaker 2: I was at a bashroom with Shae Lane and then

2597
02:04:19,480 --> 02:04:22,160
Speaker 2: you were pacing, but you were like half half a

2598
02:04:22,240 --> 02:04:23,720
Speaker 2: mile if that away from us.

2599
02:04:23,960 --> 02:04:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a bike right away. Yeah, bike ride

2600
02:04:26,200 --> 02:04:28,840
Speaker 1: freaking Sea Bass. We were drafting the same draft he was.

2601
02:04:29,160 --> 02:04:32,080
Speaker 1: He was such a big dude and he was he

2602
02:04:32,240 --> 02:04:35,800
Speaker 1: was always really smart, Like he always had really great

2603
02:04:36,000 --> 02:04:42,400
Speaker 1: questions to like Scarnako or Josh. I just remember him

2604
02:04:42,440 --> 02:04:45,200
Speaker 1: always being able to like, hey, coach, but what if

2605
02:04:45,240 --> 02:04:48,160
Speaker 1: this happens on this and we're in this? You know,

2606
02:04:48,360 --> 02:04:51,960
Speaker 1: like he had a really outgoing thought process of the

2607
02:04:52,080 --> 02:04:55,480
Speaker 1: game for someone who never grew up around the game

2608
02:04:55,800 --> 02:04:58,800
Speaker 1: m hm or like really or really knew the game. Yeah,

2609
02:04:58,840 --> 02:05:01,200
Speaker 1: he like, how do he's he was playing at fourteen. Yeah,

2610
02:05:01,240 --> 02:05:03,760
Speaker 1: you could start playing at fourteen, which is different than

2611
02:05:03,840 --> 02:05:06,200
Speaker 1: kids that start playing in fourteen here, but it was

2612
02:05:06,360 --> 02:05:07,240
Speaker 1: so natural here.

2613
02:05:07,640 --> 02:05:10,440
Speaker 2: Also, when he was playing at fourteen, it wasn't like

2614
02:05:10,760 --> 02:05:13,240
Speaker 2: real football. He was playing what league was that? The

2615
02:05:13,320 --> 02:05:15,120
Speaker 2: club it was, Yeah, it was like some type of

2616
02:05:15,160 --> 02:05:18,840
Speaker 2: club football. Wasn't the same rules, it wasn't the same schemes,

2617
02:05:19,440 --> 02:05:22,080
Speaker 2: none of that. I mean, there was some similarities of

2618
02:05:22,240 --> 02:05:24,360
Speaker 2: the league that he was playing in when he started

2619
02:05:24,400 --> 02:05:26,960
Speaker 2: playing football, but it was nothing like American football.

2620
02:05:27,080 --> 02:05:27,680
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

2621
02:05:27,960 --> 02:05:30,640
Speaker 2: So where he go to university, It was to Houston

2622
02:05:31,400 --> 02:05:34,600
Speaker 2: where he had a pretty solid career there. And then

2623
02:05:35,080 --> 02:05:37,440
Speaker 2: the way he got to the Patriots, I'm pretty sure,

2624
02:05:37,640 --> 02:05:40,120
Speaker 2: like the newing of Patriots, they were looking for an

2625
02:05:40,200 --> 02:05:44,000
Speaker 2: offensive tackle at the time, you know, to start for

2626
02:05:44,440 --> 02:05:48,280
Speaker 2: them or just about and uh yeah, And I'm pretty

2627
02:05:48,320 --> 02:05:52,880
Speaker 2: sure he played in the East West Game after being

2628
02:05:53,200 --> 02:05:56,320
Speaker 2: you know, in college at the University of Houston, and

2629
02:05:56,440 --> 02:05:58,680
Speaker 2: that's when he really got scouted by the Patriots. And

2630
02:05:58,720 --> 02:06:01,760
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure the Patriots and Dante Scarnaccio one of

2631
02:06:01,800 --> 02:06:04,960
Speaker 2: the best offensive line coaches in the history history of

2632
02:06:05,080 --> 02:06:07,760
Speaker 2: the game, no doubt about that. I mean, he's the

2633
02:06:07,880 --> 02:06:10,440
Speaker 2: reason to a lot of our success in New England.

2634
02:06:10,720 --> 02:06:14,320
Speaker 2: And what's wild is like he's tiny, Like you know,

2635
02:06:14,400 --> 02:06:18,280
Speaker 2: offensive line coaches are usually offensive lineman beforehand, like Dante

2636
02:06:18,360 --> 02:06:22,640
Speaker 2: Scarnakia demanded a room. He was older, like seventy five

2637
02:06:22,800 --> 02:06:26,120
Speaker 2: seventies what five ten, one hundred and eighty pounds, and

2638
02:06:26,240 --> 02:06:29,960
Speaker 2: he just lined up his offensive lineman like a drill

2639
02:06:30,040 --> 02:06:31,800
Speaker 2: sergeant and just control.

2640
02:06:31,400 --> 02:06:35,320
Speaker 1: Them like unbelievable. I remember the first day of rookie camp,

2641
02:06:36,520 --> 02:06:41,320
Speaker 1: Scar yelling at Sea Bass saying something like, you guys,

2642
02:06:41,520 --> 02:06:43,960
Speaker 1: you fat pieces shit better start running.

2643
02:06:45,200 --> 02:06:48,720
Speaker 4: Well, you guys are out here bouncing around this league

2644
02:06:48,880 --> 02:06:51,520
Speaker 4: for five six years. I'm gonna you have to work

2645
02:06:51,560 --> 02:06:54,400
Speaker 4: at Walmart because I'm like, get fired for not getting

2646
02:06:54,400 --> 02:06:55,480
Speaker 4: you to be able to play.

2647
02:06:56,240 --> 02:06:59,320
Speaker 1: It's like the first day of Rookiotis. I'm like, oh

2648
02:06:59,440 --> 02:07:01,560
Speaker 1: my god, I don't know if he was going to

2649
02:07:01,600 --> 02:07:03,160
Speaker 1: Sea Bastard. I was like, that was my welcome to

2650
02:07:03,200 --> 02:07:05,240
Speaker 1: the NFL moment, Like holy shit.

2651
02:07:05,520 --> 02:07:08,280
Speaker 2: And then they scouted Sebastian. They had a workout with him.

2652
02:07:08,320 --> 02:07:12,160
Speaker 2: I mean I saw I think he did. He did

2653
02:07:12,200 --> 02:07:14,040
Speaker 2: his pro day and he put him through a workout

2654
02:07:14,880 --> 02:07:19,680
Speaker 2: and he said that, you know, Sebastian was smart. He

2655
02:07:19,800 --> 02:07:22,360
Speaker 2: did everything that he was told. He picked up on everything.

2656
02:07:22,480 --> 02:07:24,280
Speaker 2: He picked up on the schemes right of way. It's

2657
02:07:24,360 --> 02:07:27,000
Speaker 2: just showing how smart he was. And and then he

2658
02:07:27,080 --> 02:07:33,040
Speaker 2: also talked about how Sebastian learned the English language.

2659
02:07:33,280 --> 02:07:36,240
Speaker 1: How was that? And that was just watching American flicks,

2660
02:07:36,680 --> 02:07:38,240
Speaker 1: American TV, American TV.

2661
02:07:39,160 --> 02:07:41,920
Speaker 2: Man, I watched German TV, and my eyes are going

2662
02:07:42,000 --> 02:07:46,800
Speaker 2: to space faster than Michael Strahan went to space. This

2663
02:07:46,960 --> 02:07:49,280
Speaker 2: guy learned How's English?

2664
02:07:49,400 --> 02:07:52,880
Speaker 1: How did you learn English? Oh, just learned it just

2665
02:07:53,080 --> 02:07:55,840
Speaker 1: growing up, just did. I was around it a lot

2666
02:07:56,520 --> 02:07:59,240
Speaker 1: as a kid, being around my mom, my dad, my

2667
02:07:59,320 --> 02:08:04,000
Speaker 1: brother's friend. And who is your first word? Mama? Mama?

2668
02:08:04,800 --> 02:08:07,880
Speaker 1: But it was baba mama. I wonder what Sebastian's first

2669
02:08:07,920 --> 02:08:10,320
Speaker 1: word was, because it's not mama, that's English. Yeah, what

2670
02:08:10,400 --> 02:08:13,200
Speaker 1: do you think it was? It's probably like uh oma,

2671
02:08:14,920 --> 02:08:19,080
Speaker 1: ohma omah's grandma and like German.

2672
02:08:19,840 --> 02:08:23,440
Speaker 2: Oh. You want to know what Bill Belichick once said

2673
02:08:23,840 --> 02:08:26,240
Speaker 2: too about Sebastian Vollmer. What do you say is that

2674
02:08:26,400 --> 02:08:30,640
Speaker 2: when Sebastian would utter things underneath.

2675
02:08:30,240 --> 02:08:32,560
Speaker 1: His breath in German or something, yeah, in German.

2676
02:08:33,200 --> 02:08:35,880
Speaker 2: Yes, he knew that it was never good.

2677
02:08:37,280 --> 02:08:39,360
Speaker 1: He knew it was never good. That's a that's a

2678
02:08:39,400 --> 02:08:43,120
Speaker 1: great observation, Coach Belichick's. That's called scouting right there.

2679
02:08:43,520 --> 02:08:49,280
Speaker 2: Sebastian was athletic, great. Hey, I'm scouting Sebastian right now. Okay,

2680
02:08:49,720 --> 02:08:52,400
Speaker 2: I know you're getting excited. He's athletic, great size, he

2681
02:08:52,520 --> 02:08:55,200
Speaker 2: was light on his feet, He has thirty six to

2682
02:08:55,320 --> 02:08:57,920
Speaker 2: thirty eight inch arms, depending on the workout that he

2683
02:08:58,040 --> 02:09:01,080
Speaker 2: did that day. He's thick every where, dude. I'm telling you,

2684
02:09:01,160 --> 02:09:07,560
Speaker 2: he's thick, his CAFs, his squads, forearms, bice triiceps, abs.

2685
02:09:07,560 --> 02:09:09,360
Speaker 2: See like he's thick. It's like he almost had a

2686
02:09:09,400 --> 02:09:11,040
Speaker 2: six pack, but he didn't because he was so big.

2687
02:09:11,360 --> 02:09:13,960
Speaker 2: But he dick like thick boy man.

2688
02:09:14,040 --> 02:09:16,720
Speaker 1: But he wasn't like fat, No, he wasn't always Well

2689
02:09:16,960 --> 02:09:19,880
Speaker 1: now he's like a bodybuilder. He's shredded. He looks so

2690
02:09:20,160 --> 02:09:22,040
Speaker 1: good right now. It looks like a tight end. He

2691
02:09:22,120 --> 02:09:24,200
Speaker 1: looks like he Van dam was like six foot eight.

2692
02:09:25,000 --> 02:09:27,320
Speaker 1: He's that ripped right now. He's got good feet. He

2693
02:09:27,360 --> 02:09:29,680
Speaker 1: always had good feet. He was always on balance.

2694
02:09:30,040 --> 02:09:33,760
Speaker 2: I was working out with him, O'Brian's yeah, yeah, aps, yes,

2695
02:09:33,840 --> 02:09:36,480
Speaker 2: aps my going into my second year in the league

2696
02:09:36,560 --> 02:09:39,120
Speaker 2: during the lockout, at the NFL lockout, we would always

2697
02:09:39,120 --> 02:09:41,440
Speaker 2: be working out there. I just remember him working out

2698
02:09:41,640 --> 02:09:44,240
Speaker 2: and like I was just amazed how strong he was.

2699
02:09:44,320 --> 02:09:48,240
Speaker 2: He took one hundred and forty pound dumbbell, just went

2700
02:09:48,320 --> 02:09:50,520
Speaker 2: right on the bench, grab the other one just like this,

2701
02:09:51,200 --> 02:09:54,200
Speaker 2: that easy, and just started tossing it up for a

2702
02:09:54,280 --> 02:09:57,320
Speaker 2: set of ten, one hundred and forty pound dumbells for

2703
02:09:57,360 --> 02:09:58,880
Speaker 2: a set of ten, like it was nothing.

2704
02:09:59,120 --> 02:10:02,440
Speaker 1: The Gumans have particular beard that makes them very strong.

2705
02:10:02,840 --> 02:10:05,600
Speaker 2: Well, then let me keep drinking jewels because I want

2706
02:10:05,680 --> 02:10:07,560
Speaker 2: to be very strong like Sebastian.

2707
02:10:07,640 --> 02:10:09,400
Speaker 1: And if he was drinking beer to make him strong,

2708
02:10:09,480 --> 02:10:12,280
Speaker 1: I need another beer. Fill me up, please, I already

2709
02:10:12,360 --> 02:10:14,560
Speaker 1: had one. I want one more. I got you, well,

2710
02:10:14,600 --> 02:10:15,200
Speaker 1: you filled me up.

2711
02:10:15,240 --> 02:10:17,760
Speaker 2: How about the time when Coach Belichick put him out

2712
02:10:17,800 --> 02:10:20,720
Speaker 2: there and he's told Sebastian Vollmer, hey, if you catch

2713
02:10:20,800 --> 02:10:21,240
Speaker 2: his punt.

2714
02:10:21,920 --> 02:10:25,200
Speaker 1: He was dune for today, everyone's off practice. Hey, that's

2715
02:10:25,280 --> 02:10:27,000
Speaker 1: all meetings. What happened? What happened?

2716
02:10:27,040 --> 02:10:27,920
Speaker 2: What did Sebastian do?

2717
02:10:29,080 --> 02:10:31,240
Speaker 1: He caught a punt? He gave us training camp. That

2718
02:10:31,360 --> 02:10:32,440
Speaker 1: was early in our career.

2719
02:10:32,880 --> 02:10:34,720
Speaker 2: It was that was my I think my rookie year

2720
02:10:34,840 --> 02:10:37,000
Speaker 2: or my second year in the league. I think it

2721
02:10:37,080 --> 02:10:39,600
Speaker 2: was my second year. But that was great. See Bass,

2722
02:10:39,640 --> 02:10:41,840
Speaker 2: Thank you for coming through. I'll remember it, you know,

2723
02:10:41,960 --> 02:10:43,400
Speaker 2: for the rest of my life that you got me

2724
02:10:43,480 --> 02:10:46,320
Speaker 2: off meetings that night. Thank you, amen, because those meetings

2725
02:10:46,360 --> 02:10:47,840
Speaker 2: are way too long.

2726
02:10:48,120 --> 02:10:50,120
Speaker 1: His first start in two thousand and nine was the

2727
02:10:50,960 --> 02:10:53,440
Speaker 1: was that Tennessee Titans game where it snowed in like

2728
02:10:53,560 --> 02:10:56,800
Speaker 1: October fifteenth or something like that. He was replacing Matt

2729
02:10:56,880 --> 02:10:58,960
Speaker 1: Light who was starting. I think he got banged up.

2730
02:10:59,040 --> 02:11:00,800
Speaker 1: We didn't give up a sack like it was his

2731
02:11:00,920 --> 02:11:05,560
Speaker 1: first game in pressure was on young football player from

2732
02:11:05,720 --> 02:11:10,120
Speaker 1: Germany and helps give up zero sacks and we blew

2733
02:11:10,200 --> 02:11:13,400
Speaker 1: out the Tennessee Titans that like nothing. It was fifty

2734
02:11:13,480 --> 02:11:13,960
Speaker 1: nine nothing.

2735
02:11:14,360 --> 02:11:16,400
Speaker 2: You I know why you guys, you know won that

2736
02:11:16,480 --> 02:11:18,560
Speaker 2: game fifty nine nothing and why Tom threw like eight

2737
02:11:18,680 --> 02:11:22,240
Speaker 2: touchdown passes in the first quarter because he was very

2738
02:11:22,640 --> 02:11:26,080
Speaker 2: comfortable as Sebastian Volmer was his left tackle.

2739
02:11:26,360 --> 02:11:29,080
Speaker 1: He was comfortable. He was just like we were all comfortable.

2740
02:11:29,640 --> 02:11:33,640
Speaker 1: When Coach Belichick said, hey, Sebastian Volmer, if you catch

2741
02:11:33,720 --> 02:11:36,520
Speaker 1: this punt right here on this windy day at training camp,

2742
02:11:36,600 --> 02:11:40,680
Speaker 1: when we've been running you guys for fifteen straight days

2743
02:11:41,120 --> 02:11:45,200
Speaker 1: into the ground, not a day off, full pads twice

2744
02:11:45,200 --> 02:11:47,120
Speaker 1: a day. If you catch his punt, I'm gonna give

2745
02:11:47,120 --> 02:11:49,840
Speaker 1: you guys meetings off tonight, but we will have practice tomorrow.

2746
02:11:49,880 --> 02:11:52,960
Speaker 1: But you guys will have meetings off tonight. And what

2747
02:11:53,040 --> 02:11:55,280
Speaker 1: do you do. He caught the punt, We didn't have meetings.

2748
02:11:55,400 --> 02:11:56,960
Speaker 1: He caught the punt so I could go home and

2749
02:11:57,080 --> 02:11:57,680
Speaker 1: do this quick.

2750
02:12:00,120 --> 02:12:01,600
Speaker 2: We got to give him a little bit more credit

2751
02:12:01,680 --> 02:12:03,800
Speaker 2: in his broadcasting career because he has made a name

2752
02:12:03,840 --> 02:12:06,680
Speaker 2: for himself in the country of Germany because he's bringing

2753
02:12:06,720 --> 02:12:10,800
Speaker 2: the game and a lot of awareness of American football

2754
02:12:10,880 --> 02:12:13,040
Speaker 2: and bringing it over and he's doing a great job

2755
02:12:13,120 --> 02:12:15,120
Speaker 2: to translate it. I see a lot of things he

2756
02:12:15,200 --> 02:12:20,120
Speaker 2: translates English to uh Germany to help people in that

2757
02:12:20,240 --> 02:12:22,600
Speaker 2: country understand the game. So he's doing a great job

2758
02:12:22,640 --> 02:12:24,760
Speaker 2: expanding and have an unbelievable role like that.

2759
02:12:24,880 --> 02:12:27,120
Speaker 1: Without doubt, he's making the game bigger. He probably loves

2760
02:12:27,160 --> 02:12:30,680
Speaker 1: his home country. He does, and he loves football, and

2761
02:12:31,480 --> 02:12:34,120
Speaker 1: it's great for him to be able to share the

2762
02:12:34,240 --> 02:12:37,120
Speaker 1: game that he's loved with the people that where he's from.

2763
02:12:37,320 --> 02:12:39,880
Speaker 1: That's like some beautiful stuff.

2764
02:12:40,400 --> 02:12:44,400
Speaker 2: It's beautiful, like like Europe. It is beautiful like Poland. Actually,

2765
02:12:44,480 --> 02:12:48,320
Speaker 2: Poland's beautiful, and that's why, you know, Sebastian is so

2766
02:12:48,440 --> 02:12:52,000
Speaker 2: beautiful as well, because Poland's right near Germany.

2767
02:12:52,280 --> 02:12:54,000
Speaker 1: It might connect, but I don't think it does.

2768
02:12:54,080 --> 02:12:57,000
Speaker 5: I think they touch the touch. That's why we just

2769
02:12:57,720 --> 02:13:00,000
Speaker 5: just sympathize for each other. And we have so much

2770
02:13:00,200 --> 02:13:03,440
Speaker 5: connection because I'm a Pollock, he's German, and we just

2771
02:13:04,160 --> 02:13:08,520
Speaker 5: we just have that you know, tightness. We feel each other.

2772
02:13:08,640 --> 02:13:11,720
Speaker 5: We understand each other, and he's just a good guy.

2773
02:13:12,160 --> 02:13:15,840
Speaker 5: I'm a good guy, and I'm just gonna keep drinking

2774
02:13:15,960 --> 02:13:18,520
Speaker 5: and just keep getting emotional because I'm blacked out.

2775
02:13:18,560 --> 02:13:23,920
Speaker 1: It's a beer and a half jewels time. All right,

2776
02:13:24,240 --> 02:13:27,280
Speaker 1: all right? What is he? You are already? You're ady?

2777
02:13:27,400 --> 02:13:29,880
Speaker 1: I just broke out of ours. You're in it. I

2778
02:13:30,000 --> 02:13:33,919
Speaker 1: was in it. What kind of dude is Sebastian Bohmer?

2779
02:13:34,280 --> 02:13:36,280
Speaker 2: Is he?

2780
02:13:36,520 --> 02:13:38,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he is pretty studley if you think about it.

2781
02:13:38,880 --> 02:13:40,960
Speaker 1: A guy that came from he's probably one of the

2782
02:13:41,080 --> 02:13:47,000
Speaker 1: badass dudes from his country, never played our country's most

2783
02:13:47,040 --> 02:13:52,360
Speaker 1: famous sport, most popular sport, and comes in and becomes

2784
02:13:53,040 --> 02:13:56,640
Speaker 1: a fucking damn good football player. All right, on on three,

2785
02:13:56,880 --> 02:13:58,880
Speaker 1: you say what you think he is. I'll say what

2786
02:13:58,960 --> 02:14:05,080
Speaker 1: I think he is, all right, one? Two, three? Whiz, yeah, baby,

2787
02:14:05,240 --> 02:14:08,600
Speaker 1: give me some, give me some. Obviously, probably we know him,

2788
02:14:08,840 --> 02:14:10,440
Speaker 1: we played with them, so we're gonna be on the

2789
02:14:10,480 --> 02:14:13,200
Speaker 1: same page of what he is. I mean, he's definitely

2790
02:14:13,240 --> 02:14:15,720
Speaker 1: a whiz if you think about it, to be able

2791
02:14:15,800 --> 02:14:20,040
Speaker 1: to come out out of high school from Germany, to

2792
02:14:20,200 --> 02:14:24,879
Speaker 1: go to a university in America and play American football,

2793
02:14:25,040 --> 02:14:28,520
Speaker 1: learn the language, through TV be as smart as he

2794
02:14:28,720 --> 02:14:32,280
Speaker 1: was on the field. You never saw emmy from Sebastian

2795
02:14:32,320 --> 02:14:35,960
Speaker 1: Bohmer Like he's for sure a whiz clutch catching the

2796
02:14:36,000 --> 02:14:39,560
Speaker 1: punt for us to get us the night off of meetings,

2797
02:14:40,200 --> 02:14:43,240
Speaker 1: like he was the guy. He's a whiz for sure.

2798
02:14:43,880 --> 02:14:47,720
Speaker 1: You said it all, Jules, he said it all. Here's

2799
02:14:47,760 --> 02:14:49,000
Speaker 1: a whiz guy.

2800
02:14:49,080 --> 02:14:51,280
Speaker 2: Smiders can be picked up the scheme stop one of

2801
02:14:51,320 --> 02:14:53,680
Speaker 2: the hardest blocking schemes and all football.

2802
02:14:54,880 --> 02:14:57,080
Speaker 1: Just like that. I think he picked up English better

2803
02:14:57,120 --> 02:14:59,640
Speaker 1: than you and I speak it. No, he sure has,

2804
02:15:01,200 --> 02:15:03,200
Speaker 1: and if you ask him he would agree that. He

2805
02:15:03,320 --> 02:15:08,400
Speaker 1: definitely would. I love him too, But they cuckoo, cuckoo.

2806
02:15:09,040 --> 02:15:12,920
Speaker 1: That's what he was say. Is everybody casey, I love them,

2807
02:15:13,760 --> 02:15:18,040
Speaker 1: I love them. Oh we love you. Bathroom. All right,

2808
02:15:18,080 --> 02:15:23,840
Speaker 1: let's get into our our last Halloween edition of New

2809
02:15:24,000 --> 02:15:32,800
Speaker 1: Tonguans guy that we are going to talk about. You

2810
02:15:32,920 --> 02:15:36,480
Speaker 1: know what, I'm looking at this and it's pretty gnarly

2811
02:15:37,080 --> 02:15:42,920
Speaker 1: m that everyone of the scariest guys that we're going

2812
02:15:43,000 --> 02:15:50,320
Speaker 1: over is from the AFC. Fucking North, another Kent State

2813
02:15:50,520 --> 02:15:56,120
Speaker 1: golden flash. Another man that scares the living ship out

2814
02:15:56,160 --> 02:16:02,240
Speaker 1: of you. He sure does. His name is Debo, but

2815
02:16:02,400 --> 02:16:05,480
Speaker 1: his birth name is James Harrison.

2816
02:16:05,920 --> 02:16:08,240
Speaker 2: James Henry Harrison Junior Hank.

2817
02:16:09,000 --> 02:16:10,880
Speaker 1: I will not call him that to his face. He'll

2818
02:16:13,120 --> 02:16:15,640
Speaker 1: I've seen him doing that volleyball ship. What is up?

2819
02:16:16,200 --> 02:16:18,960
Speaker 1: What's you a A? I asked to say, alright, AI

2820
02:16:19,520 --> 02:16:23,880
Speaker 1: for James Hank, I was probably too scared the second

2821
02:16:24,400 --> 02:16:28,440
Speaker 1: Holy smokes, Oh that's blank A. I was scared. AI

2822
02:16:28,600 --> 02:16:30,480
Speaker 1: is fucking scared. I'm scared. Did not want to get

2823
02:16:30,480 --> 02:16:32,000
Speaker 1: it wrong. Start the claw.

2824
02:16:33,520 --> 02:16:38,560
Speaker 2: Now now, James Harrison. James Harrison was a tenicious and

2825
02:16:38,640 --> 02:16:42,280
Speaker 2: a hard hitting linebacker. Tenacious, thank you, Joe, got you.

2826
02:16:42,720 --> 02:16:43,280
Speaker 1: I'm Harry.

2827
02:16:43,320 --> 02:16:45,240
Speaker 2: You know I didn't read any bucks growing up, okay,

2828
02:16:45,879 --> 02:16:50,040
Speaker 2: you know? And a hard hitting linebacker now for his

2829
02:16:50,200 --> 02:16:53,960
Speaker 2: relentless work ethic and physical style of play. Off the field,

2830
02:16:54,000 --> 02:16:58,280
Speaker 2: he was dedicated and resilient, overcoming numerous setbacks to achieve success.

2831
02:16:59,040 --> 02:17:03,040
Speaker 2: Harrison had a significant impact on the Pittsburgh Steeers on

2832
02:17:03,160 --> 02:17:06,000
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers, helping them win two Super Bowls and

2833
02:17:06,080 --> 02:17:08,960
Speaker 2: earning the NFL Defensive Player of the Year award in

2834
02:17:09,080 --> 02:17:13,160
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight Jesus. Notably, He's set a then

2835
02:17:13,240 --> 02:17:16,880
Speaker 2: Steelers single season record with sixteen sacks in two thousand

2836
02:17:16,879 --> 02:17:19,960
Speaker 2: and eight and is the only undrafted player to win

2837
02:17:20,080 --> 02:17:22,880
Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year award. He was also a

2838
02:17:23,000 --> 02:17:27,680
Speaker 2: five time Pro Bowler and twice named the Steelers MVP.

2839
02:17:29,200 --> 02:17:30,760
Speaker 1: He should have been a Super Bowl MVP.

2840
02:17:31,800 --> 02:17:37,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Santonio home tapping catch and the game. They

2841
02:17:37,480 --> 02:17:40,520
Speaker 2: should give out like two MVP's award, a defensive MVP

2842
02:17:40,840 --> 02:17:43,360
Speaker 2: if deserved, and then an MVP award as well, or

2843
02:17:43,360 --> 02:17:45,760
Speaker 2: an MVP award. And if it was a defensive guy,

2844
02:17:45,959 --> 02:17:48,240
Speaker 2: then if someone played on the offensive side, you know,

2845
02:17:48,840 --> 02:17:50,600
Speaker 2: on the offense side of the ball, very well, they

2846
02:17:50,680 --> 02:17:51,439
Speaker 2: should also.

2847
02:17:51,320 --> 02:17:54,160
Speaker 1: Have the offensive MVP. You know what I mean? You

2848
02:17:54,200 --> 02:17:56,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying by that. Yeah, they can get

2849
02:17:56,440 --> 02:17:58,440
Speaker 1: they can get a better sponsorship group out of the

2850
02:17:58,560 --> 02:18:00,960
Speaker 1: NFL too. If they did that, you could have you know,

2851
02:18:01,160 --> 02:18:05,960
Speaker 1: Chevy for you know, the offense and forward for the defense. Ah,

2852
02:18:06,600 --> 02:18:12,720
Speaker 1: we're not business guys. Debo. Hey, Lyd, you're smarter than

2853
02:18:12,760 --> 02:18:20,680
Speaker 1: I thought. Carry Your hands are freezing. James Harrison absolute

2854
02:18:21,200 --> 02:18:24,680
Speaker 1: scary motherfucker. Like he's look at him. You look at

2855
02:18:24,720 --> 02:18:28,240
Speaker 1: his pictures. It's like one degree outside. He's got his

2856
02:18:28,400 --> 02:18:31,080
Speaker 1: shirt off and his baggy ass sweats doing a pregame

2857
02:18:31,160 --> 02:18:34,760
Speaker 1: warm up, looking like he wants to just I fucking

2858
02:18:34,920 --> 02:18:38,840
Speaker 1: kill every single person on the other side of the team.

2859
02:18:39,320 --> 02:18:43,080
Speaker 1: Like we played against him and he's got a notion

2860
02:18:43,640 --> 02:18:46,760
Speaker 1: and it's so fucking crazy that he didn't get drafted

2861
02:18:47,320 --> 02:18:52,000
Speaker 1: because he's about six feet tall, but he's also six

2862
02:18:52,120 --> 02:18:56,480
Speaker 1: feet wide. This guy is a fucking fridge his I've

2863
02:18:56,560 --> 02:19:01,960
Speaker 1: never his arms are literally like thirty inches big. I

2864
02:19:02,000 --> 02:19:05,040
Speaker 1: remember he came and played with us in seventeen. It

2865
02:19:05,160 --> 02:19:08,200
Speaker 1: literally when he would walk in the locker room, it

2866
02:19:08,280 --> 02:19:12,240
Speaker 1: felt like the scene in Friday when Deebo would roll.

2867
02:19:12,320 --> 02:19:14,640
Speaker 1: Everyone would put their chains away, and he was like

2868
02:19:14,879 --> 02:19:18,360
Speaker 1: a nice guy, but he just had that scary great guy,

2869
02:19:18,640 --> 02:19:21,360
Speaker 1: scary aorr about him. We're like, no, hey, oh shit,

2870
02:19:21,480 --> 02:19:23,400
Speaker 1: what's up. No one wanted to joke with him because

2871
02:19:23,400 --> 02:19:25,320
Speaker 1: he didn't know if he was gonna take it or

2872
02:19:25,400 --> 02:19:27,920
Speaker 1: if he could be joked with. But he was honestly

2873
02:19:28,000 --> 02:19:30,680
Speaker 1: a great teammate for that one year, and he's made

2874
02:19:30,800 --> 02:19:34,920
Speaker 1: so many incredible fucking plays in his career, Like it's insane.

2875
02:19:35,400 --> 02:19:38,040
Speaker 1: Have you seen him do the shot put? Nah? I

2876
02:19:38,120 --> 02:19:40,720
Speaker 1: never seen. He's I guess he's a huge fucking shotputter,

2877
02:19:41,080 --> 02:19:44,760
Speaker 1: Like he's a fuck. I love him. I absolutely loved him.

2878
02:19:44,760 --> 02:19:46,920
Speaker 1: I remember when he played that game in two thousand

2879
02:19:46,920 --> 02:19:49,040
Speaker 1: and eight. I was at Kent State the super Bowl

2880
02:19:49,040 --> 02:19:51,080
Speaker 1: where he had that big hundred yard run in the

2881
02:19:51,160 --> 02:19:53,760
Speaker 1: super Bowl, and I was just so excited to see

2882
02:19:53,800 --> 02:19:58,040
Speaker 1: a guy like him, you know, dominating the NFL from

2883
02:19:58,120 --> 02:20:02,199
Speaker 1: where I came from. I mean, it was It's crazy.

2884
02:20:03,040 --> 02:20:11,360
Speaker 1: Was Primes James Harrison faster than you? Yes?

2885
02:20:12,600 --> 02:20:12,760
Speaker 2: Was he?

2886
02:20:13,040 --> 02:20:14,920
Speaker 1: Yes? I'm not going to say he wasn't.

2887
02:20:17,280 --> 02:20:18,840
Speaker 2: To think about that. And I was like, wait, if

2888
02:20:18,879 --> 02:20:20,520
Speaker 2: I am faster than him, I should not say I

2889
02:20:20,600 --> 02:20:24,119
Speaker 2: was faster. It's like that's like me saying I'm stronger

2890
02:20:24,200 --> 02:20:26,960
Speaker 2: than him as well, which obviously I am not stronger

2891
02:20:27,040 --> 02:20:27,840
Speaker 2: than James Harrison.

2892
02:20:27,840 --> 02:20:28,800
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone is.

2893
02:20:28,920 --> 02:20:31,200
Speaker 2: But I'm going to talk a little football, you know,

2894
02:20:31,280 --> 02:20:34,320
Speaker 2: a little technician on the football field here. I mean

2895
02:20:34,959 --> 02:20:37,400
Speaker 2: in the blocking aspect of the game and who you're

2896
02:20:37,440 --> 02:20:39,480
Speaker 2: going versus, what type of guy you're going verse, what

2897
02:20:39,600 --> 02:20:42,080
Speaker 2: type of player you're going verse, who you're going verse,

2898
02:20:42,120 --> 02:20:44,840
Speaker 2: Because in the NFL, you scout the player you're going verse,

2899
02:20:44,879 --> 02:20:47,320
Speaker 2: you scot him. You see what type of player they are.

2900
02:20:47,640 --> 02:20:50,880
Speaker 2: You see how they react to you know, the type

2901
02:20:50,920 --> 02:20:53,440
Speaker 2: of blocks that they're receiving and all that good stuff.

2902
02:20:53,480 --> 02:20:56,480
Speaker 2: In what size he is, what height the defender is

2903
02:20:56,560 --> 02:20:58,560
Speaker 2: that you're going verse, You get in his chest, you

2904
02:20:58,680 --> 02:21:02,039
Speaker 2: throw your shoulder, so many different techniques depending on who

2905
02:21:02,120 --> 02:21:04,959
Speaker 2: you're going verse. And I love blocking a guy that's

2906
02:21:05,040 --> 02:21:08,640
Speaker 2: like six ' five my height who stands up, because

2907
02:21:08,640 --> 02:21:11,160
Speaker 2: then I can get in his chest driving backwards. And

2908
02:21:11,320 --> 02:21:15,040
Speaker 2: a guy that doesn't have that mean look, that mean attitude,

2909
02:21:15,440 --> 02:21:17,120
Speaker 2: and a guy that's not going to get pissed off

2910
02:21:17,160 --> 02:21:20,040
Speaker 2: because I came flying off the ball and absolutely drilled

2911
02:21:20,080 --> 02:21:22,480
Speaker 2: him and drove him back five yards and embarrass him.

2912
02:21:22,720 --> 02:21:24,960
Speaker 2: That was the last thing I was trying to do

2913
02:21:25,280 --> 02:21:26,199
Speaker 2: with James Harrison.

2914
02:21:26,240 --> 02:21:27,199
Speaker 1: Well, we're trying to do James.

2915
02:21:27,320 --> 02:21:29,760
Speaker 2: First off, with James, I knew I couldn't get into

2916
02:21:29,800 --> 02:21:32,240
Speaker 2: his chest. The guy is like a bowling ball, Like

2917
02:21:32,320 --> 02:21:34,880
Speaker 2: you know that twenty eight pound bowling ball that everyone

2918
02:21:34,959 --> 02:21:37,760
Speaker 2: wants to throw down the freaking lane and just trying

2919
02:21:37,760 --> 02:21:39,879
Speaker 2: to knock down all the pins and like you kind

2920
02:21:39,920 --> 02:21:41,160
Speaker 2: of like do a granny.

2921
02:21:40,840 --> 02:21:43,039
Speaker 1: Style and so heavy you blow out your back.

2922
02:21:43,120 --> 02:21:45,440
Speaker 2: Well, those are the hardest guys to block in the NFL,

2923
02:21:45,800 --> 02:21:48,720
Speaker 2: especially at my size six foot six, you know, it's

2924
02:21:48,760 --> 02:21:50,600
Speaker 2: hard for me to get low. It's hard for me

2925
02:21:50,720 --> 02:21:52,400
Speaker 2: to move that type of guy because they have so

2926
02:21:52,560 --> 02:21:55,600
Speaker 2: much leverage built in pad level. Yes, exactly, that's what

2927
02:21:55,720 --> 02:21:57,960
Speaker 2: he has. And with a guy like that and how

2928
02:21:58,080 --> 02:22:00,680
Speaker 2: scary and intimidating he was, and I see it on film,

2929
02:22:00,760 --> 02:22:03,760
Speaker 2: you do not want to piss James Harrison on why

2930
02:22:03,879 --> 02:22:05,120
Speaker 2: what did you see on Yes?

2931
02:22:05,480 --> 02:22:07,040
Speaker 1: What do you see on film? What do you mean?

2932
02:22:07,120 --> 02:22:08,039
Speaker 1: What do you see on film?

2933
02:22:08,080 --> 02:22:11,400
Speaker 2: I seen him take defenders, offensive lineman, toss him. I

2934
02:22:11,560 --> 02:22:15,400
Speaker 2: seen him absolutely level defenders and put him out of

2935
02:22:15,440 --> 02:22:16,640
Speaker 2: the game with a concussion.

2936
02:22:16,800 --> 02:22:19,080
Speaker 1: Dude, he knocked out Josh Cribas, one of his teammates

2937
02:22:19,120 --> 02:22:21,480
Speaker 1: from college, but literally knock his ass out.

2938
02:22:21,520 --> 02:22:24,120
Speaker 2: So therefore, when I'm blocking him, it's a guy that

2939
02:22:24,200 --> 02:22:25,560
Speaker 2: you just kind of want to get in his way.

2940
02:22:25,720 --> 02:22:27,360
Speaker 2: I'm not going to come off the ball and crush

2941
02:22:27,400 --> 02:22:29,320
Speaker 2: his skull. I'm not trying to do that because if

2942
02:22:29,360 --> 02:22:31,200
Speaker 2: I piss him off, you know, if I hit him

2943
02:22:31,240 --> 02:22:33,160
Speaker 2: hired and I trigger him, man, I'm gonna tell you

2944
02:22:33,200 --> 02:22:35,000
Speaker 2: he's gonna pick me up and throw me the next place.

2945
02:22:35,040 --> 02:22:37,120
Speaker 2: So I never wanted to trigger him. I always just

2946
02:22:37,160 --> 02:22:39,800
Speaker 2: try to get in his way, you know, with my shoulder,

2947
02:22:39,920 --> 02:22:42,080
Speaker 2: with my hands. So then when the running back came

2948
02:22:42,160 --> 02:22:43,440
Speaker 2: around and you try to make a play, you know,

2949
02:22:43,560 --> 02:22:45,160
Speaker 2: just get in his way again, you know, so he.

2950
02:22:45,200 --> 02:22:46,360
Speaker 1: Could you feel his strength.

2951
02:22:46,440 --> 02:22:48,240
Speaker 2: I could feel his strength, because then if I started

2952
02:22:48,280 --> 02:22:51,760
Speaker 2: going strength for strength, that's when I lose, no doubt

2953
02:22:51,760 --> 02:22:54,080
Speaker 2: about it, that's when I lose the block versus a

2954
02:22:54,120 --> 02:22:56,280
Speaker 2: guy like that and leverage. So every time I just

2955
02:22:56,400 --> 02:22:59,360
Speaker 2: try to just kind of play paddy kick, you know,

2956
02:22:59,520 --> 02:23:02,000
Speaker 2: try to let him absorb me. So if I did

2957
02:23:02,080 --> 02:23:03,880
Speaker 2: fly off the ball, he would fly off the ball too,

2958
02:23:03,879 --> 02:23:05,440
Speaker 2: and then I would go backwards and he would have

2959
02:23:05,520 --> 02:23:07,760
Speaker 2: that separation pass. So I just try to stick on

2960
02:23:07,959 --> 02:23:10,520
Speaker 2: him like a like a sponge, you know. Uh, And

2961
02:23:10,920 --> 02:23:14,320
Speaker 2: just always didn't let him out of my rear view mirror,

2962
02:23:14,520 --> 02:23:16,880
Speaker 2: just always staying in front of him, never trying to

2963
02:23:16,959 --> 02:23:19,119
Speaker 2: piss them off, never trying to give him a cheap shot.

2964
02:23:19,400 --> 02:23:22,040
Speaker 2: That was the way I blocked James Harrison, And it

2965
02:23:22,160 --> 02:23:23,960
Speaker 2: was a whole different style when you go versus a

2966
02:23:24,000 --> 02:23:24,720
Speaker 2: player like him.

2967
02:23:25,040 --> 02:23:29,520
Speaker 1: That's crazy. See we're here talking about like Rob's Rob

2968
02:23:29,680 --> 02:23:32,600
Speaker 1: used to block the biggest battest to on the defensive line.

2969
02:23:33,240 --> 02:23:36,720
Speaker 1: That's fucking nuts. You know, it's rarely seen, you know,

2970
02:23:36,840 --> 02:23:40,600
Speaker 1: a matchup with the tight end and the nine technique

2971
02:23:40,680 --> 02:23:43,120
Speaker 1: fucking d end or what you know, the outside linebacker

2972
02:23:43,200 --> 02:23:46,600
Speaker 1: that's playing down like that doesn't that's usually at the

2973
02:23:46,640 --> 02:23:49,000
Speaker 1: point of attack a lot of times, is it. Do

2974
02:23:49,040 --> 02:23:49,760
Speaker 1: you watch that film?

2975
02:23:49,879 --> 02:23:51,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you always want to get the tackle on those guys.

2976
02:23:51,720 --> 02:23:54,000
Speaker 2: But when you have a tight end in that situation

2977
02:23:54,200 --> 02:23:56,200
Speaker 2: that's willing to do it, willing to get there to

2978
02:23:56,280 --> 02:23:59,680
Speaker 2: the that's what expands your offense. That expands the run game,

2979
02:23:59,720 --> 02:24:02,200
Speaker 2: that's what expands the play action game as well. And

2980
02:24:02,560 --> 02:24:04,600
Speaker 2: I kind of use that to my advantage and that's

2981
02:24:04,640 --> 02:24:06,720
Speaker 2: actually what helped me get open plenty of time on

2982
02:24:06,800 --> 02:24:09,480
Speaker 2: the play actions when the linebacker step up because they thought,

2983
02:24:09,680 --> 02:24:12,320
Speaker 2: you know, I'm coming out the block. But James Harrison

2984
02:24:12,440 --> 02:24:16,240
Speaker 2: was a terrifying pocket pressure player. He got so low

2985
02:24:16,920 --> 02:24:19,280
Speaker 2: his shoulder like, yeah, he would have that shoulder dip

2986
02:24:19,320 --> 02:24:21,199
Speaker 2: and he would just get right off of the tackle,

2987
02:24:21,240 --> 02:24:24,000
Speaker 2: even though the offensive tackles twice his size, kind of

2988
02:24:24,040 --> 02:24:25,279
Speaker 2: like it looks like twice his hype.

2989
02:24:25,120 --> 02:24:26,680
Speaker 1: But he would get right underneath him. And he was

2990
02:24:26,720 --> 02:24:27,200
Speaker 1: so strong.

2991
02:24:27,400 --> 02:24:29,560
Speaker 2: He would just rip through right through his arm and

2992
02:24:29,640 --> 02:24:31,720
Speaker 2: then get to the quarterback. And he was quick enough

2993
02:24:31,920 --> 02:24:34,840
Speaker 2: to take kind of an outside angle. Run the hump, Yeah,

2994
02:24:34,959 --> 02:24:36,960
Speaker 2: run the hump, and then bolt right to the court.

2995
02:24:37,080 --> 02:24:39,560
Speaker 1: Also would have a great change up where he would

2996
02:24:39,640 --> 02:24:41,800
Speaker 1: just use his strength. He get right up in that

2997
02:24:42,000 --> 02:24:44,600
Speaker 1: chest of that guy who's about eight inches taller than them,

2998
02:24:44,879 --> 02:24:47,440
Speaker 1: and push his ass right back into the pocket and

2999
02:24:47,680 --> 02:24:48,720
Speaker 1: blow up the quarterback.

3000
02:24:48,840 --> 02:24:51,080
Speaker 2: And that's the exact leverage I was talking about. And

3001
02:24:51,200 --> 02:24:52,960
Speaker 2: that's why I didn't go toe to toe with him

3002
02:24:53,040 --> 02:24:54,760
Speaker 2: right off the line, because he would get that leverage

3003
02:24:54,760 --> 02:24:56,640
Speaker 2: and he push me back. So I would just try

3004
02:24:56,720 --> 02:24:58,800
Speaker 2: to stay on him and not let him get that

3005
02:24:59,120 --> 02:25:01,880
Speaker 2: force to you know, to be able to push me back.

3006
02:25:01,959 --> 02:25:03,119
Speaker 2: So just being a smart player.

3007
02:25:03,200 --> 02:25:04,520
Speaker 1: Have you seen his workout videos.

3008
02:25:04,600 --> 02:25:08,200
Speaker 2: His workout videos are freaking ridiculous. He has like eight

3009
02:25:08,320 --> 02:25:10,960
Speaker 2: forty fives on each side when he's freaking benching like

3010
02:25:11,280 --> 02:25:14,600
Speaker 2: five hundred, like fifty five und you see it does

3011
02:25:14,600 --> 02:25:15,439
Speaker 2: It's just ridiculous.

3012
02:25:15,480 --> 02:25:19,520
Speaker 1: His conditioning, he gets like a thirty pound or a

3013
02:25:19,680 --> 02:25:23,360
Speaker 1: forty pound medicine ball and he plays volleyball with it

3014
02:25:23,400 --> 02:25:25,039
Speaker 1: where you have to catch it in the house, saying

3015
02:25:25,080 --> 02:25:29,320
Speaker 1: that that that's hard. People don't realize that's hard. That's heavyweight.

3016
02:25:29,400 --> 02:25:32,480
Speaker 1: And he does it for a long round. Like it's

3017
02:25:32,560 --> 02:25:35,200
Speaker 1: so fun to watch his workouts because he does like

3018
02:25:35,320 --> 02:25:37,800
Speaker 1: some world's strongest man shit all the time, or like

3019
02:25:37,879 --> 02:25:40,640
Speaker 1: you have like a boulder he's pushing, or he's fucking

3020
02:25:41,080 --> 02:25:44,800
Speaker 1: pulling a goddamn car or throwing fucking rocks that are

3021
02:25:44,879 --> 02:25:48,160
Speaker 1: like nine hundred pounds. Like he's just a he's a

3022
02:25:48,280 --> 02:25:51,680
Speaker 1: cool dude man. And the one thing about it, the

3023
02:25:51,800 --> 02:25:56,480
Speaker 1: one thing would you agree, does his voice not match

3024
02:25:56,560 --> 02:25:59,480
Speaker 1: his body? I think it does match his boy it does.

3025
02:26:00,040 --> 02:26:02,200
Speaker 1: I don't think it's like a low scary voice. It's

3026
02:26:02,280 --> 02:26:04,600
Speaker 1: not as low as you expect. Yeah, so I don't

3027
02:26:04,600 --> 02:26:06,800
Speaker 1: think it like you would think with that guy. He's like,

3028
02:26:07,280 --> 02:26:10,520
Speaker 1: are you doing you? Yeah, you're expecting that low. It's

3029
02:26:10,600 --> 02:26:13,200
Speaker 1: kind of it's not high though, No, it's not high.

3030
02:26:13,240 --> 02:26:14,920
Speaker 1: It's kind of a James. I'm not saying you have

3031
02:26:14,959 --> 02:26:16,800
Speaker 1: a high but which is kind of good because imagine

3032
02:26:16,800 --> 02:26:21,520
Speaker 1: if it was that low, it would be like even scarier. Yeah,

3033
02:26:21,920 --> 02:26:25,400
Speaker 1: Like I remember, remember he remember he gave it. I

3034
02:26:25,480 --> 02:26:27,640
Speaker 1: got one of his shirts. Remember, he had the Deebo

3035
02:26:27,760 --> 02:26:30,800
Speaker 1: shirt in the locker room. I still have the Deebo's

3036
02:26:30,959 --> 02:26:35,480
Speaker 1: shirt somewhere here. He's he's like he can lift like whatever,

3037
02:26:35,560 --> 02:26:38,120
Speaker 1: six hundred pounds. Ben squat that lift.

3038
02:26:38,680 --> 02:26:41,120
Speaker 2: But what I love about him is that he always

3039
02:26:41,200 --> 02:26:45,240
Speaker 2: posts his regime of you know, recovering, of how he

3040
02:26:45,360 --> 02:26:47,600
Speaker 2: recovers off of those lists how he was recovering in

3041
02:26:47,640 --> 02:26:51,080
Speaker 2: the NFL, and he would put like three hundred and

3042
02:26:51,240 --> 02:26:55,920
Speaker 2: fifty acupuncture needles and every day, like every other day,

3043
02:26:55,920 --> 02:26:59,560
Speaker 2: and he posts about it like you gotta be a freak.

3044
02:27:00,040 --> 02:27:02,680
Speaker 2: You gotta be intense in order to get three hundred

3045
02:27:02,720 --> 02:27:06,200
Speaker 2: and fifty needles poked inside of your muscle tissue and

3046
02:27:06,360 --> 02:27:10,120
Speaker 2: just take it like an absolute champ. Like that just

3047
02:27:10,200 --> 02:27:13,680
Speaker 2: shows he that just shows like he's dedicated, like he's

3048
02:27:13,760 --> 02:27:16,720
Speaker 2: doing whatever it takes to be at that level that

3049
02:27:16,800 --> 02:27:17,640
Speaker 2: he needs to be at.

3050
02:27:17,720 --> 02:27:20,080
Speaker 1: Who is the mount Rushmore? Of the strongest guys we

3051
02:27:20,200 --> 02:27:21,240
Speaker 1: played with, you think.

3052
02:27:21,720 --> 02:27:26,200
Speaker 2: I would say Sebastian Volmer left tackle was Vince Wilfork.

3053
02:27:26,240 --> 02:27:28,680
Speaker 2: He was super strong, strong, He didn't really have to

3054
02:27:28,760 --> 02:27:30,760
Speaker 2: even like work out that much. He would just walk

3055
02:27:30,760 --> 02:27:32,760
Speaker 2: in the weight room and toss up like five hundred

3056
02:27:32,760 --> 02:27:33,520
Speaker 2: pounds in the bench.

3057
02:27:34,000 --> 02:27:38,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, Marcus Cannon was a strong guy. Saw the squatting world.

3058
02:27:38,240 --> 02:27:41,840
Speaker 1: I never I remember. Canon would be squatting and there'd

3059
02:27:41,879 --> 02:27:45,760
Speaker 1: be fifteen fucking forty five and the thing would be bouncing.

3060
02:27:46,879 --> 02:27:49,080
Speaker 1: I swear I think he had like twelve forty five's

3061
02:27:49,120 --> 02:27:51,040
Speaker 1: on each side, remember that, And now the bar would

3062
02:27:51,080 --> 02:27:54,600
Speaker 1: be it'd be bouncing like it was a fucking cute

3063
02:27:54,640 --> 02:27:59,760
Speaker 1: tip with fucking rocks on. It's like it was.

3064
02:28:01,800 --> 02:28:03,200
Speaker 2: That was good inmitation right there.

3065
02:28:03,440 --> 02:28:07,640
Speaker 1: And then Brandon Bolden for pound for pound. Bolden didn't

3066
02:28:07,640 --> 02:28:09,800
Speaker 1: even work out. He was like, but he pound for

3067
02:28:09,879 --> 02:28:12,119
Speaker 1: pound when we do all those Like my gosh.

3068
02:28:12,000 --> 02:28:13,600
Speaker 2: I wasn't saying like that was a bad thing, that

3069
02:28:13,640 --> 02:28:15,680
Speaker 2: work out. He didn't need to work out. And I'm like, dude,

3070
02:28:15,680 --> 02:28:17,920
Speaker 2: how are you so strong? And rip He's like, yo,

3071
02:28:18,040 --> 02:28:21,480
Speaker 2: I carry my kids around and I'm like, I'm like, dang,

3072
02:28:21,480 --> 02:28:24,880
Speaker 2: I gotta start having kids. I gotta start having kids.

3073
02:28:25,080 --> 02:28:27,440
Speaker 2: And I still haven't started. And this is eight years later.

3074
02:28:27,520 --> 02:28:29,800
Speaker 2: What I would still be playing if I attend kids.

3075
02:28:30,640 --> 02:28:32,520
Speaker 1: He would always do those. Remember we'd always have to

3076
02:28:32,520 --> 02:28:37,359
Speaker 1: do those explosion recordings for some certain things like the Kaisers,

3077
02:28:37,840 --> 02:28:40,920
Speaker 1: and he would always be the absolute He blow people

3078
02:28:40,959 --> 02:28:43,240
Speaker 1: out by a thousand points because he was just so

3079
02:28:43,440 --> 02:28:46,920
Speaker 1: explosive strong. I'd say that's probably our Mount Rushmore. Yes,

3080
02:28:47,200 --> 02:28:50,960
Speaker 1: his last Kent State game, you know, he sacked five

3081
02:28:51,120 --> 02:28:57,000
Speaker 1: times Miami of Ohio. Oh big Ben his fucking teammate,

3082
02:28:57,360 --> 02:29:01,480
Speaker 1: and no one's off limits, No one is off limits.

3083
02:29:02,040 --> 02:29:03,640
Speaker 1: We saw what he did to Josh Cribs when he

3084
02:29:03,720 --> 02:29:05,720
Speaker 1: was in a Browns uniform. We saw what he did

3085
02:29:05,800 --> 02:29:09,200
Speaker 1: to Ben Roethlisberger when he was in a Miami with

3086
02:29:09,240 --> 02:29:13,280
Speaker 1: Ohio uniform. Like he is fucking Freddy Krueger bro This

3087
02:29:13,440 --> 02:29:15,320
Speaker 1: is how I mean, this is the perfect guy to

3088
02:29:15,400 --> 02:29:17,119
Speaker 1: have on the goddamn Halloween episode.

3089
02:29:17,200 --> 02:29:19,520
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, we're talking about his you know, defensive

3090
02:29:19,520 --> 02:29:22,320
Speaker 2: skill set and all that, but what about every time

3091
02:29:22,440 --> 02:29:25,160
Speaker 2: he had an interception he always almost like brought that

3092
02:29:25,320 --> 02:29:27,240
Speaker 2: ball back to the house. Obviously with one of the

3093
02:29:27,280 --> 02:29:29,480
Speaker 2: biggest Super Bowl plays in history of the one hundred

3094
02:29:29,560 --> 02:29:32,600
Speaker 2: yard return versus Arizona Cardinals. And if they scored right

3095
02:29:32,640 --> 02:29:34,720
Speaker 2: on that drive, they were saying the game was going

3096
02:29:34,800 --> 02:29:37,280
Speaker 2: to be over going into half because the Cardinos had

3097
02:29:37,360 --> 02:29:37,920
Speaker 2: that big of a.

3098
02:29:37,959 --> 02:29:39,920
Speaker 1: New manager and that much momentum going in.

3099
02:29:40,080 --> 02:29:43,959
Speaker 2: But he saved the Steelers that game with that interception

3100
02:29:44,080 --> 02:29:45,520
Speaker 2: to the house. It looked like he was about to

3101
02:29:45,560 --> 02:29:48,119
Speaker 2: be tackled eight different times, and he just kept going

3102
02:29:48,200 --> 02:29:50,480
Speaker 2: and kept going and kept going. He's kind of like

3103
02:29:50,640 --> 02:29:55,959
Speaker 2: a fullback mixed with a running back when he's running

3104
02:29:56,000 --> 02:29:58,640
Speaker 2: the ball. Think Mike Golsta, Yes, exactly like him.

3105
02:29:58,680 --> 02:30:00,920
Speaker 1: He's Mike allstart of the for the side of the ball.

3106
02:30:01,080 --> 02:30:03,440
Speaker 1: Did you hear that he's Is he gonna be fighting

3107
02:30:03,480 --> 02:30:04,200
Speaker 1: o Jo Cinco?

3108
02:30:04,360 --> 02:30:10,600
Speaker 2: He was, Yeah, o Jo Cinkoo First, James Harrison, what

3109
02:30:10,760 --> 02:30:12,280
Speaker 2: are you thinking, o Jo Cinko?

3110
02:30:13,440 --> 02:30:17,960
Speaker 1: What the Ojo are you thinking? I'll tell you right now.

3111
02:30:18,040 --> 02:30:19,520
Speaker 1: O Jo Cinko has got some ball.

3112
02:30:19,800 --> 02:30:20,800
Speaker 2: He does have a ball.

3113
02:30:21,480 --> 02:30:24,680
Speaker 1: He raced a horse. He's fought a couple of times.

3114
02:30:25,680 --> 02:30:27,960
Speaker 1: I mean he's lost all the fights, so has he?

3115
02:30:28,120 --> 02:30:29,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he lost the fight he bought one time.

3116
02:30:30,320 --> 02:30:32,280
Speaker 1: To be said about a man that loses a fight

3117
02:30:32,360 --> 02:30:35,960
Speaker 1: and keeps coming back. He keeps coming back. Oh, Joe Senko,

3118
02:30:36,000 --> 02:30:38,000
Speaker 1: don't back down. He does it now, he doesn't. What

3119
02:30:38,640 --> 02:30:41,000
Speaker 1: is he thinking? What is he thinking? I don't is

3120
02:30:41,080 --> 02:30:45,160
Speaker 1: it it's UFC right, it's in May style? Yeah, I

3121
02:30:45,240 --> 02:30:47,560
Speaker 1: mean the only way you would have to fight James

3122
02:30:47,600 --> 02:30:49,879
Speaker 1: Harrison is you can box him. If he couldn't bring

3123
02:30:49,959 --> 02:30:50,240
Speaker 1: you down.

3124
02:30:50,360 --> 02:30:52,760
Speaker 2: O Jo Cinko is six to one, one hundred and

3125
02:30:52,840 --> 02:30:54,560
Speaker 2: ninety pounds about I would say.

3126
02:30:54,600 --> 02:30:55,000
Speaker 1: He's got it.

3127
02:30:55,080 --> 02:30:57,920
Speaker 2: He's probably like, yeah, he lost a Brian Maxwell in

3128
02:30:57,959 --> 02:30:59,000
Speaker 2: a boxing match.

3129
02:30:59,320 --> 02:31:01,640
Speaker 1: He yeah, it wasn't. I'm not saying they probably beat

3130
02:31:01,680 --> 02:31:03,800
Speaker 1: the ship out of me, but I'm not fucking James Harrison.

3131
02:31:05,160 --> 02:31:07,360
Speaker 1: James Harrison is a scary man.

3132
02:31:07,520 --> 02:31:10,280
Speaker 2: Should we go, we should go? I gotta, I gotta

3133
02:31:10,360 --> 02:31:13,960
Speaker 2: what if scenario? Do you think we can beat James

3134
02:31:14,000 --> 02:31:17,600
Speaker 2: Harrison if we tag team versus if.

3135
02:31:17,959 --> 02:31:20,360
Speaker 1: You mean if we tag team James Harrison? No, No,

3136
02:31:20,600 --> 02:31:26,520
Speaker 1: like you and I versus James Harrison. Uh, I don't. Honestly,

3137
02:31:26,600 --> 02:31:29,760
Speaker 1: I really don't know. And I can center myself a

3138
02:31:29,840 --> 02:31:34,160
Speaker 1: tough guy, but and I consider you a large tough

3139
02:31:34,280 --> 02:31:36,520
Speaker 1: human as well. We would have to game plan. We'd

3140
02:31:36,600 --> 02:31:38,480
Speaker 1: have to. You have to game plan because you know,

3141
02:31:38,560 --> 02:31:41,200
Speaker 1: the Steelers do what they do. They do do they

3142
02:31:41,240 --> 02:31:43,240
Speaker 1: what they do, They do what they do, they do

3143
02:31:43,320 --> 02:31:45,440
Speaker 1: what they do, they do it very well. But they

3144
02:31:45,480 --> 02:31:47,520
Speaker 1: do what they do what they do, and they don't adjust.

3145
02:31:47,640 --> 02:31:49,600
Speaker 1: They don't adjust you what they do, and they do.

3146
02:31:49,959 --> 02:31:53,600
Speaker 1: We'd have to play James Harrison for that fight time,

3147
02:31:54,240 --> 02:31:56,680
Speaker 1: all right, But what kind of dude is James Harrison? Okay?

3148
02:31:56,720 --> 02:31:58,800
Speaker 1: I have I have two that I think he is.

3149
02:31:59,440 --> 02:32:01,480
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think he's a dude's dude, no one's.

3150
02:32:01,920 --> 02:32:04,440
Speaker 1: I played with him and he was kind of a

3151
02:32:04,520 --> 02:32:06,160
Speaker 1: dude's dude. But I was too scared of him the

3152
02:32:06,200 --> 02:32:08,200
Speaker 1: whole time for him to me think that he was

3153
02:32:08,240 --> 02:32:12,200
Speaker 1: a dude's dude. The freak he's I mean, he's either

3154
02:32:12,280 --> 02:32:14,880
Speaker 1: a freak or dog to me, you know it. And

3155
02:32:15,160 --> 02:32:17,320
Speaker 1: I think it's a crazy thing that if he's a freak,

3156
02:32:17,400 --> 02:32:19,959
Speaker 1: that he was an undrafted freak, that's probably a stat

3157
02:32:20,040 --> 02:32:23,560
Speaker 1: that will never say again. And that's freaky.

3158
02:32:23,760 --> 02:32:26,039
Speaker 2: I mean he is a freak for sure. I would

3159
02:32:26,080 --> 02:32:27,160
Speaker 2: not disagree with a freaking.

3160
02:32:27,280 --> 02:32:28,120
Speaker 1: He has dog in him.

3161
02:32:28,120 --> 02:32:30,680
Speaker 2: There's no doubt he's a relentless dog. He's a dog

3162
02:32:30,800 --> 02:32:33,039
Speaker 2: that's a pit bull. He's just never going to stop.

3163
02:32:33,120 --> 02:32:35,560
Speaker 2: It's the pit bull that's John trained, Yeah, that has

3164
02:32:35,600 --> 02:32:38,440
Speaker 2: the locked daw and just never letting go until that

3165
02:32:38,640 --> 02:32:41,400
Speaker 2: yaw finally gets tired after Like you gotta put him down.

3166
02:32:41,440 --> 02:32:43,280
Speaker 2: I think to put him down, basically, you got to

3167
02:32:43,360 --> 02:32:46,080
Speaker 2: kill him. But he's also freak with that interception and

3168
02:32:46,360 --> 02:32:49,680
Speaker 2: the stride. His stride when he's running, yeah, is ridiculous.

3169
02:32:49,720 --> 02:32:51,520
Speaker 2: I mean, it's freaky to have a stride like that

3170
02:32:51,680 --> 02:32:54,160
Speaker 2: at that size, with that much mass, and to be

3171
02:32:54,240 --> 02:32:57,800
Speaker 2: able to run like that, that's freaky. That's freaky.

3172
02:32:57,920 --> 02:33:01,800
Speaker 1: Tangibles, dude, No one. They say he's six foot, the

3173
02:33:01,879 --> 02:33:04,600
Speaker 1: dude's five to eleven. He maybe five to ten. He

3174
02:33:04,720 --> 02:33:07,720
Speaker 1: bout my height and he's two sixty and he runs

3175
02:33:07,879 --> 02:33:10,280
Speaker 1: just as fast as me. Okay, if you want to

3176
02:33:10,320 --> 02:33:13,560
Speaker 1: call that not a freak, you're fucking crazy. Yeah, you

3177
02:33:13,680 --> 02:33:15,720
Speaker 1: are crazy. Then he a freak. Freak.

3178
02:33:15,840 --> 02:33:19,400
Speaker 2: He's a freak. James Harrison freak stamp it.

3179
02:33:20,040 --> 02:33:21,560
Speaker 1: What does AI have to say?

3180
02:33:21,920 --> 02:33:25,440
Speaker 2: This dude was born on January ninth, nineteen seventy eight,

3181
02:33:25,800 --> 02:33:29,080
Speaker 2: and stands at six foot one and weighs one hundred

3182
02:33:29,080 --> 02:33:31,440
Speaker 2: and ninety two pounds. He was drafted as a wide

3183
02:33:31,480 --> 02:33:33,600
Speaker 2: receiver in the second round of the two thousand and

3184
02:33:33,720 --> 02:33:38,640
Speaker 2: one NFL Draft and played wide receiver for the Bengals, Patriots, Dolphins, and.

3185
02:33:38,720 --> 02:33:41,119
Speaker 1: The Montreal Alouettes Aluettes.

3186
02:33:41,400 --> 02:33:43,800
Speaker 2: He was a four time All Pro and the NFL

3187
02:33:43,879 --> 02:33:47,040
Speaker 2: receiving yards leader in two thousand and six. Originally from Miami,

3188
02:33:47,280 --> 02:33:50,280
Speaker 2: he played college football for Santa Monica College and Oregon

3189
02:33:50,360 --> 02:33:55,000
Speaker 2: State University. Off the field, he's known for flamboyant personality

3190
02:33:55,200 --> 02:33:58,640
Speaker 2: and antics, including a name change, reality TV appearances, and

3191
02:33:58,680 --> 02:33:59,760
Speaker 2: an act of social media.

3192
02:34:00,200 --> 02:34:02,920
Speaker 1: Wow, Jules, who do you think we're talking about? Buddy?

3193
02:34:03,120 --> 02:34:05,280
Speaker 1: Let's get on. Chad Ocho Cinco.

3194
02:34:06,000 --> 02:34:08,440
Speaker 2: And what's the first thing you think of, Jules when

3195
02:34:08,480 --> 02:34:12,040
Speaker 2: you hear the name chad Ocho Sinko Johnson.

3196
02:34:12,760 --> 02:34:15,720
Speaker 1: The first thing I think of. One of the wildest

3197
02:34:15,760 --> 02:34:19,640
Speaker 1: card moments or wildest moves ever. It was we draft

3198
02:34:19,840 --> 02:34:22,200
Speaker 1: or we we traded for Chad and we went into

3199
02:34:22,240 --> 02:34:29,160
Speaker 1: the we were installing the offense, and during installation, chadow'

3200
02:34:29,200 --> 02:34:32,840
Speaker 1: sha our coach, you know, Chaddio. Yes, he goes all right, guys,

3201
02:34:33,040 --> 02:34:37,040
Speaker 1: we got everything. It's all good, you know. Just don't

3202
02:34:37,120 --> 02:34:39,160
Speaker 1: be seen. I'm gonna let you out of meetings early.

3203
02:34:39,400 --> 02:34:43,400
Speaker 1: Don't be seen. We still have a team meeting. Don't

3204
02:34:43,440 --> 02:34:44,840
Speaker 1: be seen. We have a team meeting.

3205
02:34:45,080 --> 02:34:47,720
Speaker 2: So clear this up. You got a lot of meetings early,

3206
02:34:47,800 --> 02:34:49,400
Speaker 2: but we have a team meeting.

3207
02:34:49,440 --> 02:34:51,600
Speaker 1: Still we still had a meeting after so we had

3208
02:34:51,640 --> 02:34:53,600
Speaker 1: like an hour and a half for a meeting until

3209
02:34:53,680 --> 02:34:55,960
Speaker 1: the next meeting. But Chad had to get some shit

3210
02:34:56,080 --> 02:34:58,760
Speaker 1: done alright, We got everything installed. We had a pretty

3211
02:34:58,800 --> 02:35:02,640
Speaker 1: smart room, and so he let us out early. Well,

3212
02:35:02,720 --> 02:35:05,760
Speaker 1: Chad thought it was smart. And this is Chad's like

3213
02:35:05,879 --> 02:35:09,879
Speaker 1: first couple weeks there, he thought it was be smart

3214
02:35:10,120 --> 02:35:12,840
Speaker 1: to leave the facility and on the way out poke

3215
02:35:12,920 --> 02:35:15,480
Speaker 1: his head into Bill's office and asked if he wanted

3216
02:35:15,520 --> 02:35:17,400
Speaker 1: anything from Starbucks.

3217
02:35:19,320 --> 02:35:22,840
Speaker 2: And and so that's wild, that is what what did

3218
02:35:22,879 --> 02:35:25,040
Speaker 2: he think it meant to not be seen, like to

3219
02:35:25,160 --> 02:35:27,200
Speaker 2: not go on it, I don't know, to not post

3220
02:35:27,240 --> 02:35:28,160
Speaker 2: a picture online.

3221
02:35:28,240 --> 02:35:30,160
Speaker 1: I think he was just new and he's still trying

3222
02:35:30,160 --> 02:35:33,240
Speaker 1: to be friendly in the whole thing. But like it

3223
02:35:33,360 --> 02:35:36,600
Speaker 1: was a total accident, total accident. And then you know,

3224
02:35:36,680 --> 02:35:40,400
Speaker 1: the next time we had a receiver meeting in the room,

3225
02:35:41,280 --> 02:35:44,600
Speaker 1: Osha was like, fucking guy, he got ripped a new

3226
02:35:44,680 --> 02:35:47,960
Speaker 1: asshole because you know, what are you doing let guys

3227
02:35:48,000 --> 02:35:50,400
Speaker 1: out early? This that it just was a whole thing,

3228
02:35:51,000 --> 02:35:54,160
Speaker 1: just a wild like he didn't he didn't understand. But

3229
02:35:54,320 --> 02:35:56,680
Speaker 1: that's what I thought of, Like, man, Chad's crazy. The

3230
02:35:56,720 --> 02:35:59,520
Speaker 1: whole kiss, the baby thing, the whole every it's real.

3231
02:35:59,680 --> 02:36:02,040
Speaker 1: He just he just goes off of what he feels,

3232
02:36:02,280 --> 02:36:04,080
Speaker 1: off of his instincts. What do you think of when

3233
02:36:04,120 --> 02:36:07,120
Speaker 1: you think of Ocho? Well, first off, the name change.

3234
02:36:07,440 --> 02:36:08,120
Speaker 1: You gotta love it.

3235
02:36:08,240 --> 02:36:10,520
Speaker 2: He was one of the most entertaining players you know,

3236
02:36:10,760 --> 02:36:13,920
Speaker 2: in our generation while we were growing up. Yeah, for sure,

3237
02:36:14,360 --> 02:36:17,480
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals, that's for sure. I truly believe he's a

3238
02:36:17,520 --> 02:36:19,879
Speaker 2: Bengal for life. He played for a couple other teams after,

3239
02:36:20,000 --> 02:36:22,440
Speaker 2: but one hundred percent Bengal for life. He kind of

3240
02:36:22,480 --> 02:36:26,520
Speaker 2: put that wide receiver you know position on the map

3241
02:36:26,760 --> 02:36:30,240
Speaker 2: in that era to continue the streak going of you know,

3242
02:36:30,640 --> 02:36:35,800
Speaker 2: of being kind of you know, spontaneous, entertaining, entertaining, a

3243
02:36:35,879 --> 02:36:38,959
Speaker 2: little bit of drama as well, but also so good

3244
02:36:39,360 --> 02:36:41,280
Speaker 2: at the game of football that he can pull it

3245
02:36:41,400 --> 02:36:44,160
Speaker 2: off and you know, not be a problem child at

3246
02:36:44,200 --> 02:36:47,440
Speaker 2: all in some cases I would say possibly, but just overall,

3247
02:36:47,480 --> 02:36:49,680
Speaker 2: he was so good at the game of football. He

3248
02:36:49,920 --> 02:36:52,600
Speaker 2: was so quick that he could pull off all that

3249
02:36:52,760 --> 02:36:54,680
Speaker 2: dancing that he was doing, He can pull off all

3250
02:36:54,800 --> 02:36:56,600
Speaker 2: that trash talk that he was doing. He could pull

3251
02:36:56,640 --> 02:36:59,320
Speaker 2: off all those antics off the field during the offseason

3252
02:36:59,360 --> 02:37:01,760
Speaker 2: that he was doing, you know, playing soccer with the

3253
02:37:01,879 --> 02:37:06,480
Speaker 2: MLS teams, kicking extra points as well during the preseason games.

3254
02:37:06,520 --> 02:37:09,160
Speaker 2: I mean, this guy had talent, and he had so

3255
02:37:09,280 --> 02:37:12,039
Speaker 2: much talent that he could be a wild card dude

3256
02:37:12,080 --> 02:37:14,920
Speaker 2: whenever he wanted because of that type of talent that

3257
02:37:15,080 --> 02:37:17,440
Speaker 2: he had. And you got to appreciate that as well,

3258
02:37:17,560 --> 02:37:21,279
Speaker 2: because it's just cool man to see just someone be himselves.

3259
02:37:21,360 --> 02:37:22,280
Speaker 1: That's who he is. You know.

3260
02:37:22,640 --> 02:37:24,240
Speaker 2: It's not like he was doing it for a show,

3261
02:37:24,560 --> 02:37:26,520
Speaker 2: which it was a show, but he was truly doing

3262
02:37:26,560 --> 02:37:28,840
Speaker 2: it because that's just how he was born.

3263
02:37:28,959 --> 02:37:31,560
Speaker 1: And you got to respect that aspect of his game

3264
02:37:32,360 --> 02:37:34,640
Speaker 1: of who he is. He was like the first guy

3265
02:37:34,720 --> 02:37:36,879
Speaker 1: with a million followers on Twitter in the NFL.

3266
02:37:36,959 --> 02:37:39,720
Speaker 2: I think Tom absolutely hated that he was on Twitter

3267
02:37:40,280 --> 02:37:43,800
Speaker 2: because he was mister Twitter. He had like three million followers.

3268
02:37:43,920 --> 02:37:46,720
Speaker 2: The second highest person was like two hundred thousand in

3269
02:37:46,760 --> 02:37:49,520
Speaker 2: the NFL. And this is in twenty twelve. He got

3270
02:37:49,600 --> 02:37:51,760
Speaker 2: traded to the New England Patriots, and he's always on

3271
02:37:51,879 --> 02:37:55,240
Speaker 2: Twitter still, and Tom and Coach Ballichick were just always

3272
02:37:55,280 --> 02:37:58,080
Speaker 2: grilling him like, oh, you get off freaking Twitter. Get

3273
02:37:58,120 --> 02:38:01,160
Speaker 2: off Twitter. It doesn't help you in the game of football.

3274
02:38:01,200 --> 02:38:05,840
Speaker 2: But it never really like really I would say. What

3275
02:38:06,080 --> 02:38:08,320
Speaker 2: am I trying to say affected his game is? Twitter

3276
02:38:08,480 --> 02:38:11,039
Speaker 2: was just back then they just acted like it did,

3277
02:38:11,560 --> 02:38:13,160
Speaker 2: you know, But we.

3278
02:38:13,320 --> 02:38:15,240
Speaker 1: Just did things differently in New England and he didn't.

3279
02:38:15,360 --> 02:38:18,200
Speaker 2: He didn't that he didn't comply to it. The funniest

3280
02:38:18,480 --> 02:38:20,480
Speaker 2: the point is where I'm getting to is now Tom

3281
02:38:20,600 --> 02:38:24,560
Speaker 2: is mister Instagram and and so like our mister X.

3282
02:38:25,040 --> 02:38:29,879
Speaker 1: So that was the point I was getting to. Well,

3283
02:38:30,480 --> 02:38:33,680
Speaker 1: another thing, it was always known that he loved McDonald's.

3284
02:38:35,280 --> 02:38:38,760
Speaker 1: What's your take on that. I mean, it's kind of

3285
02:38:38,800 --> 02:38:40,640
Speaker 1: freaky that you could just eat McDonald's still do.

3286
02:38:40,840 --> 02:38:43,200
Speaker 2: McDonald's for most of his career, and he also said

3287
02:38:43,200 --> 02:38:47,039
Speaker 2: it helped his body, like callous for football, I guess.

3288
02:38:47,160 --> 02:38:49,720
Speaker 2: I mean, there's only one guy that could possibly do this.

3289
02:38:49,840 --> 02:38:51,760
Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of players that sometimes, you know,

3290
02:38:51,879 --> 02:38:54,879
Speaker 2: not sometimes eat fast food. But I'm talking like Chad

3291
02:38:54,959 --> 02:38:58,880
Speaker 2: did it on a daily basis, breakfast, lunch, dinner. And

3292
02:38:59,480 --> 02:39:01,600
Speaker 2: I saw he went to that corner store right on

3293
02:39:01,720 --> 02:39:03,400
Speaker 2: Root one, right next to you. Let's see him. There's

3294
02:39:03,400 --> 02:39:04,200
Speaker 2: a McDonald's there.

3295
02:39:04,360 --> 02:39:07,520
Speaker 1: It's the half's half, it's half in the McDonald half

3296
02:39:07,560 --> 02:39:08,080
Speaker 1: liquor store.

3297
02:39:08,080 --> 02:39:09,760
Speaker 2: I think he would go there, and he's always in

3298
02:39:09,800 --> 02:39:11,200
Speaker 2: the drive through. And I saw him one time. He

3299
02:39:11,280 --> 02:39:13,240
Speaker 2: pulled up and he was eating the h the fish

3300
02:39:13,320 --> 02:39:14,119
Speaker 2: filet sandwich.

3301
02:39:14,480 --> 02:39:17,280
Speaker 1: I like the fish filet, though. What's your favorite dam McDonald's.

3302
02:39:17,560 --> 02:39:22,320
Speaker 2: Uh, the coffee bro They got legit coffee there. I

3303
02:39:22,360 --> 02:39:24,720
Speaker 2: don't really eat McDonald's. If I do, I get the

3304
02:39:24,800 --> 02:39:29,440
Speaker 2: double cheeseburger and I just take the the patties off

3305
02:39:29,520 --> 02:39:31,800
Speaker 2: of the bread and I just eat the smash Hamburger

3306
02:39:31,840 --> 02:39:34,040
Speaker 2: patties with the cheese. I don't like to bread smash them.

3307
02:39:34,480 --> 02:39:37,119
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's safe to just eat the meat.

3308
02:39:37,440 --> 02:39:40,480
Speaker 2: You know what about the mcgriddle? Oh breakfast, they got

3309
02:39:40,560 --> 02:39:43,920
Speaker 2: legit breakfast sausage pancakes. Oh the pancakes are on fire.

3310
02:39:44,000 --> 02:39:46,160
Speaker 2: So I'm a breakfast guy at Mcdonald'syeah, I'm not going

3311
02:39:46,240 --> 02:39:49,520
Speaker 2: to really eat you know, their lunch or dinner. No

3312
02:39:49,680 --> 02:39:51,400
Speaker 2: big Mac, like if I do get the Big Mac,

3313
02:39:51,480 --> 02:39:53,800
Speaker 2: Like I said, I'm just eating the patties only. But

3314
02:39:53,959 --> 02:39:57,600
Speaker 2: it's just impressive, though, Chad ate that McDonald's every single day,

3315
02:39:57,800 --> 02:40:00,920
Speaker 2: every single day. Body was just some achine. I mean,

3316
02:40:01,200 --> 02:40:03,160
Speaker 2: I guess if you get used to it. Your mind

3317
02:40:03,480 --> 02:40:05,280
Speaker 2: is just gonna know what to do with that type

3318
02:40:05,320 --> 02:40:08,000
Speaker 2: of you know, nutrition. So hats off to Oto.

3319
02:40:08,080 --> 02:40:11,440
Speaker 1: Sinks he's crazy. He would like race an him. Didn't

3320
02:40:11,440 --> 02:40:14,280
Speaker 1: he race a horse? He doesn't care. He'll fight anyone.

3321
02:40:15,320 --> 02:40:18,480
Speaker 1: Chad is, So, what do you think you can beat

3322
02:40:18,480 --> 02:40:19,240
Speaker 1: a horse in a race?

3323
02:40:19,600 --> 02:40:19,640
Speaker 2: No?

3324
02:40:19,879 --> 02:40:22,720
Speaker 1: No chance? I mean, would you ever race a horse?

3325
02:40:23,680 --> 02:40:24,240
Speaker 1: No chance?

3326
02:40:24,680 --> 02:40:27,000
Speaker 2: A horse and I have one thing in common, Jules,

3327
02:40:27,360 --> 02:40:29,280
Speaker 2: and I'm not gonna tell you what it is. I

3328
02:40:30,600 --> 02:40:35,720
Speaker 2: just use your wild imagination. I get to understand. Thank you,

3329
02:40:36,000 --> 02:40:38,880
Speaker 2: I understand, thank you. Well, he raced a horse for

3330
02:40:38,959 --> 02:40:41,440
Speaker 2: a cherry feed the children. You know, he had one

3331
02:40:41,520 --> 02:40:44,200
Speaker 2: hundred meters start and he beat the horse, which you know,

3332
02:40:44,360 --> 02:40:47,320
Speaker 2: props to him. He's silly, always just doing silly things.

3333
02:40:47,400 --> 02:40:52,400
Speaker 1: Man, He did silly things. But people like when we

3334
02:40:52,480 --> 02:40:57,560
Speaker 1: were playing he had elite feet, like his footwork was

3335
02:40:58,720 --> 02:41:01,600
Speaker 1: quicker than any one I knew. And we cult him

3336
02:41:01,600 --> 02:41:03,120
Speaker 1: on the tail end of his career, and he still

3337
02:41:03,160 --> 02:41:06,560
Speaker 1: had some really insanely quick feet where he meaning he

3338
02:41:06,640 --> 02:41:08,400
Speaker 1: could get in and out of breaks. For how tall

3339
02:41:08,440 --> 02:41:11,280
Speaker 1: he was at six ' one, he was a real

3340
02:41:11,520 --> 02:41:14,720
Speaker 1: He was a skinnier guy, but usually when you're six

3341
02:41:14,760 --> 02:41:16,240
Speaker 1: to one, it's harder for you to get in and

3342
02:41:16,320 --> 02:41:20,160
Speaker 1: out of breaks. But you watch his comebacks, his releases,

3343
02:41:21,080 --> 02:41:25,080
Speaker 1: like he was always the separation king to the at

3344
02:41:25,160 --> 02:41:27,880
Speaker 1: the top of route, at the beginning of route. He

3345
02:41:28,080 --> 02:41:31,720
Speaker 1: was an elite receiver. Now with all the antics and stuff,

3346
02:41:31,800 --> 02:41:34,760
Speaker 1: we all remember him that because that's probably because he

3347
02:41:34,800 --> 02:41:39,480
Speaker 1: didn't win. But he was a fucking elite receiver that

3348
02:41:39,600 --> 02:41:41,520
Speaker 1: had a lot of production for a long time in

3349
02:41:41,600 --> 02:41:43,160
Speaker 1: this league. He was so quick.

3350
02:41:43,280 --> 02:41:45,440
Speaker 2: He had the best releases in the game as well.

3351
02:41:45,480 --> 02:41:47,160
Speaker 2: And like you said, I think he was the quickest play.

3352
02:41:47,200 --> 02:41:48,840
Speaker 2: He had the quickest feet in the game of football.

3353
02:41:48,879 --> 02:41:51,680
Speaker 2: Was like poppup pup up on He would go side

3354
02:41:51,720 --> 02:41:54,360
Speaker 2: to side with it as well. So I'm sure he's

3355
02:41:54,400 --> 02:41:56,880
Speaker 2: a great line dancer as well. He won Dancing with

3356
02:41:56,959 --> 02:41:59,640
Speaker 2: the Stars, did he fourth came and fourth fourth?

3357
02:41:59,760 --> 02:41:59,880
Speaker 1: Right.

3358
02:42:00,440 --> 02:42:03,560
Speaker 2: There's one thing that's always certain, he said, and that's

3359
02:42:03,680 --> 02:42:07,360
Speaker 2: death taxes and eighty five gonna always be open always.

3360
02:42:07,360 --> 02:42:09,400
Speaker 2: He got to love him for that, and he was

3361
02:42:09,520 --> 02:42:12,840
Speaker 2: always open. Besides, when he got to New England, he

3362
02:42:13,040 --> 02:42:14,840
Speaker 2: was he was struggling a little bit there.

3363
02:42:15,120 --> 02:42:16,240
Speaker 1: Why do you think he struggled?

3364
02:42:16,360 --> 02:42:19,040
Speaker 2: I just think he struggled because, you know, just a

3365
02:42:19,160 --> 02:42:23,800
Speaker 2: complicity of the playbook a little bit. I feel like

3366
02:42:23,879 --> 02:42:25,800
Speaker 2: he had the freelance to do whatever he wanted to

3367
02:42:25,920 --> 02:42:28,560
Speaker 2: do in Cincinnati, and then when he got to New England,

3368
02:42:28,560 --> 02:42:30,480
Speaker 2: it was more of a structure like this is what

3369
02:42:30,560 --> 02:42:32,480
Speaker 2: you gotta do. This is how you get open. It's

3370
02:42:32,520 --> 02:42:34,640
Speaker 2: not like you're gonna be able to just freelance to

3371
02:42:34,720 --> 02:42:37,280
Speaker 2: play backyard football. I feel like he played backyard football

3372
02:42:37,280 --> 02:42:40,440
Speaker 2: a little bit more with the Cincinnati Bengals. Tom wanted

3373
02:42:40,440 --> 02:42:42,800
Speaker 2: it like that, but possibly he wanted to do it

3374
02:42:42,920 --> 02:42:44,640
Speaker 2: like that, but he couldn't do it like that because

3375
02:42:44,680 --> 02:42:46,760
Speaker 2: Tom wanted it like that. I mean, it just didn't

3376
02:42:46,800 --> 02:42:49,000
Speaker 2: really work out to the tea that you know, we

3377
02:42:49,080 --> 02:42:52,480
Speaker 2: wanted it to obviously what what coach Belichick wanted to do,

3378
02:42:52,640 --> 02:42:56,720
Speaker 2: and as teammates as well. But there's one thing though

3379
02:42:56,760 --> 02:42:58,920
Speaker 2: that we know we got blessed with the presence of

3380
02:42:59,240 --> 02:43:02,240
Speaker 2: Chain for that whole entire year, and that's what is

3381
02:43:02,320 --> 02:43:04,720
Speaker 2: more important is just to be around a great dude

3382
02:43:04,760 --> 02:43:06,920
Speaker 2: and just to see, you know, how he carried himself

3383
02:43:07,000 --> 02:43:09,400
Speaker 2: to just one of the greatest wide receivers of the game.

3384
02:43:09,920 --> 02:43:11,360
Speaker 1: Do you have any stories about Chad.

3385
02:43:11,680 --> 02:43:13,960
Speaker 2: We went out to dinner actually during training camp, and

3386
02:43:14,360 --> 02:43:15,840
Speaker 2: he was just a great character man.

3387
02:43:15,920 --> 02:43:16,200
Speaker 1: I love.

3388
02:43:16,320 --> 02:43:19,280
Speaker 2: He always got the waitress wound up, you know, he

3389
02:43:19,360 --> 02:43:21,080
Speaker 2: got her wound up, cracking.

3390
02:43:20,840 --> 02:43:23,080
Speaker 1: Jokes like you know, where'd you guys go?

3391
02:43:23,280 --> 02:43:27,440
Speaker 2: We went Toby Keith's Iron Grill right there at Patriot Place,

3392
02:43:27,600 --> 02:43:30,200
Speaker 2: and he would be flirting and then the waitress would

3393
02:43:30,240 --> 02:43:32,520
Speaker 2: be flirting back with us, and like, you're just such

3394
02:43:32,520 --> 02:43:34,200
Speaker 2: an awe because we were such young bucks. And just

3395
02:43:34,240 --> 02:43:36,760
Speaker 2: how he was so spontaneous and so quick with his game,

3396
02:43:36,840 --> 02:43:39,640
Speaker 2: like his the way he would speak and and talk

3397
02:43:40,080 --> 02:43:42,360
Speaker 2: and have game, it was like his feet were.

3398
02:43:42,320 --> 02:43:45,440
Speaker 1: Running his mouth like just that quick, you know.

3399
02:43:45,680 --> 02:43:48,160
Speaker 2: And then what's so great about it is like he

3400
02:43:48,160 --> 02:43:50,080
Speaker 2: would leave her hanging though, because he would give like

3401
02:43:50,120 --> 02:43:53,160
Speaker 2: an outrageous tip to her and then like didn't leave

3402
02:43:53,200 --> 02:43:55,000
Speaker 2: his number anything, like he would get the you know,

3403
02:43:55,080 --> 02:43:55,920
Speaker 2: he would get the waitress.

3404
02:43:56,400 --> 02:43:59,640
Speaker 1: He just gets He's just outgoing. He likes to push

3405
02:43:59,680 --> 02:44:01,199
Speaker 1: people buttons, I think.

3406
02:44:01,320 --> 02:44:03,640
Speaker 2: Exactly, give her an outrageous tip and then we would

3407
02:44:03,640 --> 02:44:05,680
Speaker 2: all just leave and the waitress be like, oh what wait,

3408
02:44:06,040 --> 02:44:06,480
Speaker 2: where'd he go?

3409
02:44:06,720 --> 02:44:08,640
Speaker 1: Like I didn't get his number or anything. But he

3410
02:44:08,640 --> 02:44:11,080
Speaker 1: would just bounce on Chad was so fun. It was fun.

3411
02:44:11,160 --> 02:44:13,760
Speaker 1: I also could kick. He had a big soccer background,

3412
02:44:13,760 --> 02:44:15,600
Speaker 1: and I think that's probably what helped him with such

3413
02:44:15,640 --> 02:44:19,360
Speaker 1: great feet, quick feet that he had. I mean, I

3414
02:44:19,440 --> 02:44:22,600
Speaker 1: remember Cincinnati, their kicker got hurt. He kicked a field goal.

3415
02:44:23,320 --> 02:44:25,080
Speaker 1: He kicked a couple fields. I think he kicked a

3416
02:44:25,120 --> 02:44:28,200
Speaker 1: thirty yarder. He played in soccer leagues. I think he

3417
02:44:28,280 --> 02:44:30,200
Speaker 1: tried to play in a professional league at one pain.

3418
02:44:30,520 --> 02:44:32,840
Speaker 2: He tried out for the Kansas City MLS team during

3419
02:44:32,879 --> 02:44:36,120
Speaker 2: the twenty eleven NFL lockout, and while he was trying

3420
02:44:36,160 --> 02:44:39,720
Speaker 2: to do that, I was doing my wild, wild dude shit, Jules.

3421
02:44:39,760 --> 02:44:42,080
Speaker 2: I was at the University of Arizona during that lockout,

3422
02:44:42,120 --> 02:44:44,040
Speaker 2: and I was at the pool parties, dancing up on

3423
02:44:44,120 --> 02:44:47,080
Speaker 2: the on the stage and everything. At the pool parties,

3424
02:44:47,520 --> 02:44:50,280
Speaker 2: I was freaking pounding beers and everyone was like, Oh,

3425
02:44:50,320 --> 02:44:52,640
Speaker 2: You're gonna be in big trouble by coach Belichick after

3426
02:44:52,720 --> 02:44:53,280
Speaker 2: the lockout.

3427
02:44:53,480 --> 02:44:54,560
Speaker 1: But what did I do.

3428
02:44:54,760 --> 02:44:56,720
Speaker 2: I showed up and I was just as wild out

3429
02:44:56,760 --> 02:44:58,440
Speaker 2: on that football field and training camp.

3430
02:44:58,520 --> 02:44:58,800
Speaker 1: Baby.

3431
02:44:58,840 --> 02:45:01,040
Speaker 2: That was That was my favorite offseason was after my

3432
02:45:01,120 --> 02:45:02,720
Speaker 2: rookie year because we didn't have to go in at

3433
02:45:02,760 --> 02:45:04,520
Speaker 2: all at all, and I got to be wild as

3434
02:45:04,600 --> 02:45:06,440
Speaker 2: possible because I had a little bit of money. I

3435
02:45:06,560 --> 02:45:08,920
Speaker 2: was twenty one years old and I was just running

3436
02:45:08,959 --> 02:45:13,280
Speaker 2: around college campuses just being an absolute wild maniac. It

3437
02:45:13,400 --> 02:45:16,360
Speaker 2: was the greatest offseason of my career, no doubt about that.

3438
02:45:16,959 --> 02:45:19,040
Speaker 2: What did you do during the lockout, Jeueles, I just

3439
02:45:19,080 --> 02:45:20,080
Speaker 2: told you what I was doing.

3440
02:45:20,760 --> 02:45:23,920
Speaker 1: I actually took a couple of classes at Kent. I

3441
02:45:24,040 --> 02:45:27,440
Speaker 1: was in LA trained out here. Didn't we have like

3442
02:45:27,520 --> 02:45:30,720
Speaker 1: a fucking we had like a couple of team practices

3443
02:45:30,760 --> 02:45:34,240
Speaker 1: at BC during the lockoutmember that when we when Brady

3444
02:45:34,360 --> 02:45:35,560
Speaker 1: called a couple we did.

3445
02:45:35,640 --> 02:45:38,400
Speaker 2: We had about three practices at BC. That was really cool.

3446
02:45:38,560 --> 02:45:41,160
Speaker 2: That just shows the leadership of time, just how wild

3447
02:45:41,240 --> 02:45:44,400
Speaker 2: of a leader he was. Tom wasn't a wild card.

3448
02:45:44,480 --> 02:45:46,959
Speaker 2: He was a wild leader and that that just shows

3449
02:45:47,040 --> 02:45:49,840
Speaker 2: you know why he's, you know, one of the actually

3450
02:45:50,080 --> 02:45:51,240
Speaker 2: the greatest player to play.

3451
02:45:51,879 --> 02:45:55,400
Speaker 1: Could Chad kick the field goal kick of destiny? For

3452
02:45:55,640 --> 02:45:58,600
Speaker 1: that you do everywhere? Yeah? One hundred percent, so easy. Yeah.

3453
02:45:58,760 --> 02:46:01,080
Speaker 2: He kicked an extra point in the season game, which

3454
02:46:01,160 --> 02:46:04,039
Speaker 2: that's a lot harder than kicking the kick of destiny.

3455
02:46:04,080 --> 02:46:05,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't have a line. No one's snapping it.

3456
02:46:06,040 --> 02:46:08,560
Speaker 2: The balls just set sitting there on a tee for you.

3457
02:46:08,680 --> 02:46:12,600
Speaker 2: And it's easy, just a layup and freaking I missed twice,

3458
02:46:12,680 --> 02:46:14,880
Speaker 2: So Chad out, Josinko, I actually need you for the

3459
02:46:15,000 --> 02:46:17,680
Speaker 2: kick of destiny. I'm actually not doing it this year,

3460
02:46:18,360 --> 02:46:21,320
Speaker 2: but in the future I'll possibly be doing it again.

3461
02:46:21,440 --> 02:46:24,400
Speaker 2: So I want Chad o Jo Sinko as my coach

3462
02:46:24,560 --> 02:46:25,959
Speaker 2: or my replacement for the kick.

3463
02:46:25,879 --> 02:46:31,680
Speaker 1: Of Now what how how far is the kick of destiny? Uh? Oh?

3464
02:46:31,959 --> 02:46:34,240
Speaker 1: Twenty five yards? So it's twenty five yards.

3465
02:46:34,280 --> 02:46:36,000
Speaker 2: I was kicking it on the fifteen yard line.

3466
02:46:36,160 --> 02:46:40,600
Speaker 1: And so how far do you think they would have

3467
02:46:40,760 --> 02:46:44,720
Speaker 1: to handicap Chad's kick? Because he can kick it better,

3468
02:46:45,040 --> 02:46:47,080
Speaker 1: so we'd have to bring I would say he would

3469
02:46:47,080 --> 02:46:50,160
Speaker 1: have to kick a forty yarder. A forty I think

3470
02:46:50,200 --> 02:46:51,600
Speaker 1: he got forty easy though.

3471
02:46:51,640 --> 02:46:54,840
Speaker 2: I mean, but no, he does it forty easy. But

3472
02:46:54,879 --> 02:46:56,920
Speaker 2: that's the point I missed the last two years. So

3473
02:46:57,120 --> 02:46:59,440
Speaker 2: we need someone to make it now, okay, And we

3474
02:46:59,520 --> 02:47:00,680
Speaker 2: want him to make it as.

3475
02:47:00,560 --> 02:47:03,280
Speaker 1: Well for the fans out there and for fan duel

3476
02:47:03,400 --> 02:47:04,240
Speaker 1: and for just.

3477
02:47:04,400 --> 02:47:08,720
Speaker 2: The kick of destiny. But what about his TD celebrations

3478
02:47:08,760 --> 02:47:10,680
Speaker 2: as well. He was one of the best in the game.

3479
02:47:10,959 --> 02:47:13,120
Speaker 2: He wore the gold jacket that said future Hall of

3480
02:47:13,200 --> 02:47:16,480
Speaker 2: Fame two thousand with two question marks as a post

3481
02:47:16,560 --> 02:47:20,600
Speaker 2: touchdown celebration. How about the cheerleader proposal. I actually got

3482
02:47:20,720 --> 02:47:22,560
Speaker 2: to take some tips from you because I'm now dating

3483
02:47:22,600 --> 02:47:26,080
Speaker 2: a cheerleader. I've been chad ol chosenko. So you proposed

3484
02:47:26,120 --> 02:47:28,960
Speaker 2: in the first freaking four seconds you matter, which is

3485
02:47:29,000 --> 02:47:29,760
Speaker 2: pretty impressive.

3486
02:47:29,800 --> 02:47:30,440
Speaker 1: So call me up.

3487
02:47:30,520 --> 02:47:32,960
Speaker 2: I need some tips, brother. And then he was putting

3488
02:47:33,360 --> 02:47:36,640
Speaker 2: the football like a damn golf ball as well. When

3489
02:47:36,680 --> 02:47:39,920
Speaker 2: he did I never done that, man. My craziest TV

3490
02:47:40,040 --> 02:47:42,880
Speaker 2: celebration was just spiking the ball. Or actually when I

3491
02:47:43,000 --> 02:47:45,600
Speaker 2: was you know the one in London as well, when

3492
02:47:45,600 --> 02:47:48,080
Speaker 2: I did the booty shaking, that was pretty impressive. And

3493
02:47:48,760 --> 02:47:53,760
Speaker 2: the soldier I did, yeah, the soldier of guarding the Buckingham.

3494
02:47:53,280 --> 02:47:56,920
Speaker 1: Palace Buckingham Palace, well yes, yeah, now he remember he

3495
02:47:57,200 --> 02:48:01,640
Speaker 1: didn't he uh? He took the camera once and and

3496
02:48:01,879 --> 02:48:08,480
Speaker 1: was filming. This was like the full generation of overly celebrated, crazy,

3497
02:48:09,080 --> 02:48:13,000
Speaker 1: get your popcorn ready celebrations by receivers. Remember like Joe

3498
02:48:13,040 --> 02:48:16,560
Speaker 1: Horn he was taking cell phones out. You got Chad

3499
02:48:16,680 --> 02:48:21,200
Speaker 1: doing everything. Chad's doing t O and his celebrations. I

3500
02:48:21,320 --> 02:48:24,120
Speaker 1: mean just this was like the era where they were

3501
02:48:24,160 --> 02:48:26,480
Speaker 1: getting fired. They were they were getting penalized for it too.

3502
02:48:26,640 --> 02:48:29,880
Speaker 1: They didn't give a they didn't care. But it was

3503
02:48:29,920 --> 02:48:32,920
Speaker 1: still fun. You know, that was the No Fun League

3504
02:48:32,920 --> 02:48:33,760
Speaker 1: at the time. It was.

3505
02:48:33,879 --> 02:48:38,240
Speaker 2: I remember that when everyone was translating NFL as to

3506
02:48:38,280 --> 02:48:41,039
Speaker 2: be the No Fun because they kept finding Oo Sinko

3507
02:48:41,200 --> 02:48:44,640
Speaker 2: and all the other guys that were being entertaining, you know,

3508
02:48:44,959 --> 02:48:46,080
Speaker 2: to the to the fans.

3509
02:48:46,160 --> 02:48:49,960
Speaker 1: So James Harrison or Ocho Cinco they're fighting here soon

3510
02:48:51,120 --> 02:48:55,160
Speaker 1: super Bowl weekend. Mm A style? Who are you going with?

3511
02:48:55,680 --> 02:48:58,800
Speaker 2: It's i'm m a style I'm going with, uh obviously

3512
02:48:58,959 --> 02:48:59,680
Speaker 2: James Harrison.

3513
02:49:00,640 --> 02:49:03,160
Speaker 1: The thing is that this is how crazy Chad is.

3514
02:49:03,360 --> 02:49:07,080
Speaker 1: Why the fuck are you fighting James Harrison? Who I

3515
02:49:07,160 --> 02:49:08,760
Speaker 1: think he knocked him out of a game once.

3516
02:49:09,360 --> 02:49:11,920
Speaker 2: James Harrison is a freak of nature. He's just gonna

3517
02:49:11,920 --> 02:49:14,080
Speaker 2: get a hold of Ocho Cinco and just break him

3518
02:49:14,120 --> 02:49:17,880
Speaker 2: in half. This thing thing box O Cho Sinkle is

3519
02:49:17,920 --> 02:49:21,760
Speaker 2: gonna have. Yeah, boxing is different story quick. This is

3520
02:49:21,840 --> 02:49:23,640
Speaker 2: I'm May Now, this is I'm a May style like

3521
02:49:24,400 --> 02:49:26,520
Speaker 2: James can put his hands on him and do whatever

3522
02:49:26,560 --> 02:49:27,640
Speaker 2: he wants to do to him.

3523
02:49:28,160 --> 02:49:31,400
Speaker 1: James plays volleyball with like eighty pound balls. Remember when

3524
02:49:31,440 --> 02:49:33,360
Speaker 1: he throws it over the thing? Yeah, he does, so

3525
02:49:33,480 --> 02:49:34,920
Speaker 1: you know he can catch motherfuckers.

3526
02:49:35,040 --> 02:49:38,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ocho Sinkle's wild wild. I love it though, keeping

3527
02:49:38,600 --> 02:49:41,600
Speaker 2: wild Ojo time, let's go. What kind of dude is

3528
02:49:41,720 --> 02:49:44,439
Speaker 2: Chad Ocho Sinko? Ladies and gentlemen.

3529
02:49:44,200 --> 02:49:46,720
Speaker 1: Joined, dude is chat och Come on now.

3530
02:49:48,560 --> 02:49:51,039
Speaker 2: I wouldn't really say freak. I mean his feet were.

3531
02:49:50,920 --> 02:49:55,880
Speaker 1: Freaking freaky freaky feet. Yes, dudes, dude, Yeah, he was man.

3532
02:49:55,959 --> 02:49:56,960
Speaker 2: He was all about the guys.

3533
02:49:57,080 --> 02:49:57,400
Speaker 1: He was.

3534
02:49:57,520 --> 02:49:59,959
Speaker 2: He brought us out to dinner. Yeah, he always invites

3535
02:50:00,080 --> 02:50:02,160
Speaker 2: knows in New England and invited everyone in the round.

3536
02:50:02,360 --> 02:50:03,920
Speaker 2: He was a dude's dude, no doubt about that.

3537
02:50:04,080 --> 02:50:04,760
Speaker 1: Whiz whiz.

3538
02:50:04,959 --> 02:50:07,119
Speaker 2: I won't really go that far because, like I said,

3539
02:50:07,200 --> 02:50:09,520
Speaker 2: I think he struggled with the with our playbook a

3540
02:50:09,560 --> 02:50:11,800
Speaker 2: little bittle bit. So did I. I didn't even play

3541
02:50:12,480 --> 02:50:14,720
Speaker 2: my rookie year because I didn't know our playbook. It's

3542
02:50:14,920 --> 02:50:17,720
Speaker 2: very it's a it's a very tough playbook.

3543
02:50:17,720 --> 02:50:19,320
Speaker 1: It's very got a dog in him too. I mean,

3544
02:50:19,320 --> 02:50:24,080
Speaker 1: he don't care. He'll he'll freaking challenge anything, anyone to anything,

3545
02:50:24,520 --> 02:50:27,000
Speaker 1: I mean, race to a horse. He'll box you. He

3546
02:50:27,120 --> 02:50:31,160
Speaker 1: doesn't care. But I think he's I think he's a stud.

3547
02:50:31,360 --> 02:50:32,680
Speaker 2: I think he's a stud as well.

3548
02:50:32,800 --> 02:50:36,520
Speaker 1: I feel like that feet you know he's doing off

3549
02:50:36,560 --> 02:50:41,080
Speaker 1: the field. Now, he's just he's a lovable guy. But

3550
02:50:41,200 --> 02:50:43,480
Speaker 1: he was always he always had. He's a stud. To me,

3551
02:50:44,080 --> 02:50:44,720
Speaker 1: he is a stud.

3552
02:50:44,800 --> 02:50:48,840
Speaker 2: I mean just the way you know he presented himself

3553
02:50:49,000 --> 02:50:50,680
Speaker 2: on the field and off the field.

3554
02:50:51,440 --> 02:50:53,440
Speaker 1: That's when you know you're Stutley, you know.

3555
02:50:54,120 --> 02:50:56,800
Speaker 2: And he was so fast, and he was such a

3556
02:50:56,879 --> 02:51:00,520
Speaker 2: stud that he had a race a horse, because horses studs.

3557
02:51:00,879 --> 02:51:03,800
Speaker 1: So that makes chat out cha sinko a stud. A

3558
02:51:03,920 --> 02:51:07,520
Speaker 1: stud keeps the girl waiting at the bar, yes, like

3559
02:51:07,800 --> 02:51:10,760
Speaker 1: like he did, Yes, knows that. You know, he could

3560
02:51:10,800 --> 02:51:13,480
Speaker 1: have probably took the little lady on a date, but

3561
02:51:13,800 --> 02:51:17,200
Speaker 1: just just did it just to I don't know, he's

3562
02:51:17,200 --> 02:51:19,200
Speaker 1: a stud, just to be a stud. On three one

3563
02:51:19,320 --> 02:51:24,199
Speaker 1: two three stud. Well, that's been another episode of Dudes

3564
02:51:24,240 --> 02:51:29,000
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