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Speaker 1: Coming up on the Booth Review, we'll look at some

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Speaker 1: of the young guns who starred in the Cowboys games.

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Speaker 2: And now Cliff and Josh Johnson made some magic versus Dallas, and.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna take a look at the defense.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I got to look at Bobby Wagner's

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Speaker 4: he's five tackles short of joining Rare Air in a

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Speaker 4: two thousand tackle club with yours truly and ray Lewis.

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Speaker 1: And we'll make some history here on the Booth Review.

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Speaker 1: Welcome into the latest edition of the Booth Review Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I Brad Whisteyed with London Fletcher and Logan Paulson were

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Microsoft Surface Co Pilot plus BC

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Speaker 1: and Logan and I are in the Big Bear AI

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Speaker 1: Command Center studio. Happy belated Merry Christmas to both of you.

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Speaker 5: Thanks man, appreciate it. Yeah, I saw you on Christmas.

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Speaker 1: So that's right.

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Speaker 5: We did.

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Speaker 2: We did like a whole bunch of Christmas. You give

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Speaker 2: us a Christmas gift the week before, right, and then

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Speaker 2: on Christmas Day, so.

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Speaker 1: A little bit of a Honika gift, that's right. What'd

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Speaker 1: you do over the weekend? We had a we had

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Speaker 2: For me, obviously watched a lot of football, but I

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Speaker 2: watched Rocky with my son for the first time. We

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Speaker 1: In the TikTok generation, can they sit through something like that.

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Speaker 5: My son is eleven and he loved it.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was gonna be able too slow, because

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Speaker 2: he he really liked it. Fletch, have you seen Rocky?

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Speaker 2: You a big Rocky guy?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm saying Rocky a number of numerous times. Man,

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Speaker 4: who who has the same Rocky? If you're over I

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Speaker 5: So I think they So I went with my son.

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Speaker 2: He asked if there's six Rockies and there's three Creeds,

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot of movies to get through if

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Speaker 1: All right, it's not a preview of Philadelphia, by the ways.

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Speaker 1: A review of the Cowboys game. Shockingly, the one, the

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Speaker 1: one big surprise of the day was considering everybody on

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Speaker 1: Earth was on the Netflix broadcast, we were not. That

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Speaker 1: Did you see how many people were on that broadcast

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Speaker 5: No, I missed it.

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Speaker 2: I didn't go over there, but someone was telling me, like,

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Speaker 2: Austin Eckler was on there. Clinton Portis did something for

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Speaker 2: you know, they just thought we were too too valuable

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Speaker 1: You should have been on it. What's up?

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Speaker 4: I don't I didn't see who did it? Who was

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Speaker 4: So I don't know how they would have been able

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Speaker 4: we're not big time enough yet yet. Yeah, they had

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Speaker 5: It's a pretty big time though, pretty big time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's get into the game a little bit.

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Speaker 1: It feels like eight years ago, but let's get into

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Speaker 1: Let's start with some of the younger players. Obviously, the

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Speaker 2: But I do think like, even though it's not like

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Speaker 4: As far as with with with Johnny his frame, he continued,

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Speaker 3: He'll continue to add size.

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Speaker 4: Continue to hone in his techniques and when it comes

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I also think it's important to just kind

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Speaker 1: You see a role for him moving forward where he's

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Speaker 1: Because they've been hinting at that possibility with him. They

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Speaker 2: THAN i, do and they understand the player way better

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Speaker 4: Ricky barbara sacking And dallas was in A i know

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Speaker 4: Him on the, edge but to locus point him being

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Speaker 4: third downs in true pass passing. Situations he's he's getting

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Speaker 4: he got those sacks first and second downs, situations and

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Speaker 4: if memory served me, correctly that wasn't they. Weren't, hey

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Speaker 4: these are obvious third down passing situations that he's out

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Speaker 4: that's WHY i thought he would actually be best suited

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Speaker 4: for as A i when there's obvious Pass russian situations

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Speaker 1: Way does that a surprise you that he's not in

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Speaker 2: DOWNS i mean a little. BIT i THINK i think

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Speaker 2: i mean by that is like they tend to go

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Speaker 2: Move you, Know jacobs in and he'll play like quote

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Speaker 2: they're gonna, do, right and they bring. It they really

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Speaker 2: then they kind of bump guys on the. INTERIOR i

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Speaker 4: Speed But i'm talking about even when they had two

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Speaker 2: Game, sure, YEAH i GUESS i bring that Up fletch

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Speaker 2: to kind of, say, like you, know like a certain

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Speaker 2: the table because of the packages they're bringing. In so

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Speaker 2: To fletcher's, point, like, yes you'd like to see him

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Speaker 2: in there on third down a little bit more. Potentially but,

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Speaker 2: again LIKE i always defer to the coaches in those

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Speaker 2: the natural pass rushing you, know relationships with each. Other,

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Speaker 2: oh like you, know they have these natural rushes where

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Speaker 2: grow you can increase the, workload increase their, opportunities especially

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Speaker 1: Down all, right let's stay on. Defense Mike saymer's STILL

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Speaker 1: i think it's safe to say he's had an up

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Speaker 1: game there were some up and down. Moments that's difficult

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Speaker 1: offense they're facing this, week six tackles for of. Them

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Speaker 1: solo had another pass. Defense he's been really their best

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Speaker 1: Season that's SOMETHING i know they want to across the,

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Speaker 1: board want to improve heading into twenty twenty. Six but

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Speaker 1: he's been. That what have you seen from him kind

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Speaker 2: Far, YEAH i Mean i've been actually really impressed with

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Speaker 2: him in coverage on the. PERIMETER i think like they've

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Speaker 2: think you see his zone instincts coming to the, forefront

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Speaker 2: like when he's kind of looking through the receiver to the,

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Speaker 2: quarterback like he's very very. DANGEROUS i think in this game,

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Speaker 2: specifically there was some stuff that popped up in terms

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Speaker 2: me BECAUSE i always think of him as being a

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Speaker 2: That but in terms of a guy that's playing the

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Speaker 2: a high, level like right, NOW i mean even When

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Speaker 2: tray most of, HEALTHY i think he probably does it

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Speaker 2: the best of anybody on the. Team and so are

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Speaker 2: there things that he needs to work?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely AND i think the other thing that you'd have

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Speaker 2: probably Ask fletch this, is you, know like they at

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Speaker 2: the beginning of the, season they want to be kind

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Speaker 2: of this man, coverage, blitzing aggressive, team and they've shifted

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Speaker 2: because guys have nicked, up they haven't worked out the

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Speaker 2: pastors is, there the coverage guys aren't. There Can mikey

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Speaker 2: do some of that heavy man to man coverage stuff

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Speaker 2: on the. Perimeter that's WHERE i probably am going to

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Speaker 2: question that a little bit more in terms of who

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Speaker 2: him in. COVERAGE i don't have a lot of questions

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Speaker 3: Standpoint, yeah now he's from a playing.

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Speaker 4: OUTSIDE i don't think he has a problem playing outside

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Speaker 4: with his man and man with his own whether his

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Speaker 4: quarter is, coverage which is basically man and man for

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Speaker 4: the for the outside. Corner my kid excels at being

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Speaker 4: all playing off and you mentioned, that being able to

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Speaker 4: see the, receiver see the, quarterback and even even when

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Speaker 4: it's true man and, man he excels better at being

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Speaker 4: off man as opposed to press.

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Speaker 3: Man that's just HIS i would call it his.

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Speaker 4: SUPERPOWER i know we throw that word around a, lot

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Speaker 4: where he's he's really really good. At in terms of

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Speaker 4: are they going to try to move him back? INSIDE

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Speaker 4: i think during that off season is when you really

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Speaker 4: want him to get those those reps against, high high quality.

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Speaker 4: Receivers you want to see him get, it get those

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Speaker 4: reps against The. TERRY i don't how Much terry was

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Speaker 4: around during the during the offseason last. Year you, know

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Speaker 4: some of the whether who what the receiving corps looks

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Speaker 4: like during this this off season that's gonna a too

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Speaker 4: and just him going against extremely extremely good receivers that

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Speaker 4: have all shapes and, sizes, quickness speed, ability just really

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Speaker 4: working that and working those matches where you. Can that's

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Speaker 4: where you truly work on your. Craft, HEY i want

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Speaker 4: to press this receiver in this. SITUATION i want to

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Speaker 4: play off in this. SCENARIO i want to you, know

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Speaker 4: bumping in, bail just all those different scenarios that you're

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Speaker 4: truly truly working your, craft getting used to working and

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Speaker 4: talking to the linebackers and and things like. That that's

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Speaker 4: where when When, MIKEY i think eventually he seems like

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Speaker 4: he would be the prototypical nickel because of his, toughness his,

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Speaker 4: quickness is his ability to to blitz and all those different.

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Speaker 3: Things AND.

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Speaker 4: I know he's really good on the house, side but

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Speaker 4: it's just everything just screams.

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Speaker 3: NICK i just think she needs more seasoning in that. Nickel,

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Speaker 3: YEAH i do.

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Speaker 5: THINK i.

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Speaker 2: AGREE i think the skill set and people have asked

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Speaker 2: me like should they move him outside full? Time AND i, don't,

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Speaker 2: again like he's good out, there but if you can

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Speaker 2: get a dominant nickel in TODAY'S, nfl like that's a game, changer,

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Speaker 2: man that's like a difference making.

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Speaker 5: PIECE i.

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Speaker 2: Think you look At, seattle one of the reasons the

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Speaker 2: defense is so good is they have a dominant nickel

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Speaker 2: and Nick Amon. Warre you look At, philadelphia one of

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Speaker 2: the reasons that defense is so good is because they

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Speaker 2: have A cooper De. Gene and WHEN i look At

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Speaker 2: mikey's skill, Set i'm, like, man he should be excellent at.

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Speaker 2: This right and, again like some of this is like

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Speaker 2: we talked about it via text message this, Weekend, Fletch,

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Speaker 2: like you, know sometimes it's unclear of like you, know

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Speaker 2: what they're exactly they're asking the nickel to do in

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Speaker 2: certain situations and things like. That it's and SO i

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Speaker 2: kind of, wonder like maybe another year in the system

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Speaker 2: with a better, direction better more clear coaching in terms

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Speaker 2: of how they're supposed to handle run fits and stuffs

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Speaker 2: Help mike Helps mikey with some of that. Stuff BUT

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Speaker 2: i agree With, fletch, MAN i THINK i want to

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Speaker 2: see him play. Inside it's just like what's best for

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Speaker 2: the player is ultimately.

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Speaker 5: WHERE i come down on.

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Speaker 2: That Right, again even though all of those things that

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Speaker 2: be a great nickel. Player like if it doesn't work,

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Speaker 2: out like do you just, Say, bumpet let's drop to

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Speaker 2: another nickel or Move Kwanda nickel full time and say

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Speaker 2: you'll play outside with Tree amos this next. YEAR i don't,

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Speaker 2: know but those those are things LIKE i feel that

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Speaker 5: Of, yeah that's a.

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Speaker 4: Passion you Mentioned Cooper dejane and and his his the

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Speaker 4: way he excels With. PHILADELPHIA i think the schemes are

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Speaker 4: philly plays a lot of cover six where they're you

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Speaker 4: know those those those. Slots cooper's a lot of times

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Speaker 4: re route number two's and you know he has great.

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Speaker 4: Vision and then when they actually to play man, man

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Speaker 4: he's a lot of times he's playing from off.

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Speaker 3: Coverage he knows his. Leverage there's not any gray.

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Speaker 4: Areas so the scheme and the front also helps Ye,

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Speaker 4: Philadelphia like you you got you got dudes that get

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Speaker 4: out of the quarterback In. Philadelphia so let's see what

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Speaker 4: he would look like in the slot with a fearsome

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Speaker 4: pass rush and his his, intelligence his his, marksman his.

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Speaker 4: ATHLETICISM i just think he could be a, dominant dominant nickel,

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Speaker 4: corner and they probably.

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Speaker 3: Still feel that same way as.

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Speaker 4: Well it's just, hey let's get let's let's continue to

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Speaker 4: seize it him and just to coach him.

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Speaker 2: Up, Yeah but so OBVIOUSLY i Think mikey's doing a

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Speaker 2: good job on the outside and obviously want to see

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Speaker 2: him play more nickel maybe next. Year someone asked, me

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Speaker 2: and you did a great job on the broadcast of

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Speaker 2: explaining this the long, touchdown the eighty seven yard touchdown

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Speaker 2: was long, Touchdown, Yeah tampa. Two everyone's, like, Oh mikey

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Speaker 2: was in bad position on. THAT i wanted to bring

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Speaker 2: that up before we moved, on just to kind of

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Speaker 2: let you break it down because It's tampa. Two to,

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Speaker 2: me that's Not mikey's responsibility, There.

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Speaker 3: So it's not mike is an.

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Speaker 4: Over mikey's playing two deep safety in that inverted to

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Speaker 4: they call it tricky. To kwan is the middle, runner

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Speaker 4: middle hole, player and he.

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Speaker 3: Lines up About.

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Speaker 4: Mikey quan lined up about maybe fifteen almost fifteen yards,

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Speaker 4: deep and he's the middle run through, guy and for

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Speaker 4: some reason he just he stood flat foot and then

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Speaker 4: by the time he, realized, HEY i gotta run. Deep

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Speaker 4: you're not Catching turping running down the middle of the.

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Speaker 4: Field so the way works, ideal the quote unquote ideal.

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Speaker 3: Way you want to play cover.

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Speaker 4: Two so you're gonna have these two safeties safety, bodies

437
00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:46,000
Speaker 4: whoever they are in this particular, Situation mikey was a,

438
00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:51,520
Speaker 4: safety Was Will harris the other? Safety who the other safety?

439
00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:57,760
Speaker 4: Was and then so they're two deep. Safeties kuwan is

440
00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,400
Speaker 4: supposed to run the middle of the, field and when

441
00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,080
Speaker 4: you what you want to, do you want to have

442
00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:05,200
Speaker 4: That Kwan martin body a middle, runner forcing that quarterback

443
00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,920
Speaker 4: to put air on that. Football and that's going to

444
00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:12,120
Speaker 4: allow the two safeties to overlap either intercept or big.

445
00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,600
Speaker 4: Collisions and with a guy Like, turpin you want to

446
00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,280
Speaker 4: be high on. Him you want to discourage to. Throw

447
00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,760
Speaker 4: you want to be so high on him that WHEN

448
00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,480
Speaker 4: i say, hi like two three yards deeper than. Him

449
00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,600
Speaker 4: you don't Want dak to even feel comfortable that he

450
00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:28,800
Speaker 4: can throw that football down the.

451
00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,080
Speaker 3: Field you want to, say have him look and say,

452
00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:32,480
Speaker 3: NOPE i got to come to my.

453
00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,560
Speaker 4: Checkdown because if it's you're in a foot race with,

454
00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,120
Speaker 4: him a four to two guy where they say even.

455
00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,200
Speaker 3: Leaving he's even he's gonna leave.

456
00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,719
Speaker 4: You so Just Kwan kwan had A i don't, know

457
00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,160
Speaker 4: a brain fire for lack of a better word than mental.

458
00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,159
Speaker 4: Error and now that pay me BECAUSE i tell you

459
00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:54,560
Speaker 4: this all the. Time Kwan martin is a freaking good football. Player,

460
00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,439
Speaker 4: Man kwan is a freaking good football. Player you go

461
00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,119
Speaker 4: back and you watch the two games prior to THAT

462
00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,720
Speaker 4: u he played some really really good football for, us

463
00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,800
Speaker 4: and for whatever, reason he had a brain.

464
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,840
Speaker 3: Fark, man it, Happens trust it. Happens he's just like

465
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:09,359
Speaker 3: suit and it just.

466
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 4: Happened happened at inopportunite, time and The Dallas cowboys exploded

467
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 4: it for eighty six. Yards so it's Not mikey's fault

468
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:22,840
Speaker 4: because of his, responsibility he's trying to overlap that and

469
00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 4: he's providing overlap. Help so to ask all those folks

470
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 4: questions and try to blame that on On, mikey that's

471
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:33,359
Speaker 4: that's not the.

472
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 3: Case if the blame has to be places, on it's

473
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:38,399
Speaker 3: On kwand.

474
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 4: And i'm not calling, Him i'm just that's that's just

475
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 4: what his responsibility.

476
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,960
Speaker 1: Was all, Right let's get to the. OFFENSE a couple

477
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 1: of the young players that really stood out. There let

478
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 1: me start With Ben, sennate who had three catches twenty nine.

479
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 1: Yards they targeted him a little bit more than they

480
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 1: had over the previous few. Weeks there were some opportunities

481
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 1: that were missed with him as. Well so with zach,

482
00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 1: Ertsdown senate is getting much many more. Opportunities, now what

483
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 1: have you seen over the last couple of.

484
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,920
Speaker 2: Weeks, YEAH i THINK i see a guy just getting

485
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 2: way more. CONFIDENT i think you see his confidence growing

486
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 2: in the run, Game like it wasn't the, touchdown but

487
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 2: it was like the in the low red where they're

488
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 2: running outside. Zone he's working a combination With John bates

489
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,400
Speaker 2: and they're really patient with each, other and his eyes are,

490
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 2: good and his hat placements, good And bill's able to

491
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 2: cut off and that's just not something that he was

492
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,399
Speaker 2: doing a ton his rookie season or even earlier this.

493
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 2: Season SO i think the more playing time the worries

494
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 2: been on the, field you see a, confident physical football.

495
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 2: Player and then, again like these catches that he, had

496
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 2: they're not like you, know crazy down the field, targets

497
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 2: but you know it's in two minute. Situations he's running

498
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 2: a lot of stick like they're In tampa, two they're vacating.

499
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 2: Zones he's getting, looks AND i just think THAT i,

500
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,199
Speaker 2: remember you, KNOW i was never the most dynamic, receiver

501
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 2: but there were games Where i'd be in a two

502
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,159
Speaker 2: minute situation and get a lot of touches and it

503
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 2: just breeds. Confidence you kind of get a feel for, like,

504
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 2: OH i can't do this, move OR i got to

505
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 2: split these two guys here to kind of maximize my.

506
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 2: Touch and so to, me like that's. Great the touches

507
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 2: he's getting the Run stuf's, Great BUT i like the

508
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 2: stuff he's doing when he's not getting the. Ball Like

509
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 2: fletch you pointing this out on the, broadcast it was.

510
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,120
Speaker 2: Great he's running a seam and he does a great

511
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 2: job of pushing for with the guy opens his, hips

512
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 2: cuts across his face and once he has a better

513
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 2: relationship With Josh, Johnson Marcus, mariota you, know jayde And,

514
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 2: daniels like he's going to get that ball and that's

515
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 2: going to be an explosive play for this. Offense and

516
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 2: so to start seeing him layer those plays in when

517
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 2: he's not getting the, football that's really exciting for. Me and,

518
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 2: again like it's. Different it's a different type of open

519
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 2: it's a different type of, separation it's a different type

520
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,880
Speaker 2: of tool and skill set than it was with Zach.

521
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 5: Ertz but it's cool to see.

522
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 2: Him starting to develop his own methodology AND i think

523
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 2: it all, plays which is something that is really exciting and,

524
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 2: again hopefully he continues to. Grow you, know obviously in

525
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 2: this last game Against, Philly.

526
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, no it's the play we pointed.

527
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 4: OUT i Thought josh looked right at, him and maybe

528
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,400
Speaker 4: he didn't see him or trust it or feel comfortable because, he.

529
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 3: Like you, said he why is?

530
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 6: That?

531
00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 3: He why does that?

532
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,160
Speaker 4: Defender and he cuts across his face and he has

533
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 4: two or three about two or three yards of. Separation

534
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,360
Speaker 4: If josh hits, him it's gonna be probably a good

535
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 4: thirty forty yard. Game josh didn't do. It he ended

536
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 4: up deciding to run and he picked up maybe seven

537
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 4: or eight. Yards but, yeah that was that was a

538
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 4: missed opportunity. There he end up or didn't end up

539
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 4: throwing it To Terryber he threw it To. Terry, yeah

540
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 4: SO i, mean and it was it was definitely a

541
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 4: missed opportunity there in terms of just building upon What

542
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 4: ben has done. Well so you think about his rookie,

543
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 4: year you, know totally different. Role didn't didn't didn't play

544
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 4: a whole out of. Offense this year he's been playing

545
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 4: more h back where he's the the move blocking tight.

546
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 4: End you, got you Got john is the blocking tight

547
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 4: end so to. Speak jack is the pass catching tight,

548
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 4: end and he's more of a glorified fullback for lack

549
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 4: of a better, word where you know is that they're,

550
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 4: Actually i'm gonna do a lot more in the blocking.

551
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 4: Blocking so he's really developed and spends some total amount

552
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,239
Speaker 4: of his, time a ton of his time working on.

553
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 3: That zach gets.

554
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 4: Hurt, now, okay let me add to my pass, catching

555
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 4: my route running and all. That so going into this,

556
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 4: offseason he's going to continue to work and build on

557
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 4: that route running.

558
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 3: Stuff hopefully he goes to tight end.

559
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 4: YOU i don't know if he's he went this past,

560
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 4: year but he goes to tight end here you and

561
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 4: he learns the nuances of some of the route running

562
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 4: aspects and being able to.

563
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 3: Create separation at the top of the. Roue so these

564
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 3: are just.

565
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,479
Speaker 4: Understanding he's a second year, player, man and he's going

566
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 4: to continue to add to his. Repertoire he's a too

567
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 4: athletic to not be really good in the pass catching.

568
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 2: Game and again even like on THE i Think joshawn's

569
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 2: took a second his play with in the red. Zone

570
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 2: they're running like Like i's man coverage are running kind

571
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 2: of like a pick, slant and even just him understanding

572
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 2: like where his body needs to be to create the

573
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 2: natural rub for the slant.

574
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 5: Runner like those reps are.

575
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 2: Really, valuable, Right they're really really valuable because it kind

576
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 2: of teaches, you like conceptually what's. Happening SO i just

577
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 2: think that's it's been cool to see him kind of

578
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 2: step up and grow into this, opportunity especially after last,

579
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 2: year like a lot of this stuff, was like especially in,

580
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 2: line a lot of mental, mistakes a lot of, uncertainty

581
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 2: and all that stuff seems to kind of be erased and.

582
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 2: Eroding And David, rye the tight end, coach done a

583
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 2: great job for. Him so to see that continuing to.

584
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 5: Improve and this.

585
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 4: Is one, thing just touch on one little more point

586
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 4: on for uh for being as a tight. End you

587
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 4: know you got, hey this is the this is your,

588
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 4: responsibility it's your. Rock just, understanding, hey IF i stem

589
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 4: this IF i stem this, safety this, linebacker whoever has covered,

590
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 4: me IF i stem them just a little bit, inside

591
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 4: a little bit outside as opposed to just straight line

592
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 4: runs like he did on the one way he was

593
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 4: a three yard. Separation those will be things where he's

594
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 4: truly going to start to elevate because there was a

595
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 4: double double smash route in the corner route he ended

596
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 4: up throwing at the One debo got passing the ference

597
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 4: on it in the red.

598
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 3: Zone If josh holds that and being stamped at.

599
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 4: Safety just a little bit more in a, side if

600
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 4: he runs that corner route or flat, route he's gonna

601
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 4: get separation If josh holds it and goes to him

602
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 4: as a.

603
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 2: Touchdown so, Yeah LIKE i do a lot of like

604
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 2: combine prep and like getting young, guys like college guys

605
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 2: getting ready for THE, nfl and that is that is

606
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: the biggest, thing biggest difference in college because the hashes are,

607
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 2: wider the space is. Different you don't have to be

608
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 2: as technical with that element of the. Game and so people, say,

609
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 2: well why does he know? That And i'll tell you,

610
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 2: This Like i've worked with probably close to sixty guys coming,

611
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 2: out and very few of them understand that element of route,

612
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 2: running that level of. Detail it takes time on, task

613
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: it takes better, defenders and so like it's cool to

614
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 2: see him starting to layer that. In but like Like fletch,

615
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 2: ed after a good, offseason a productive, offseason hopefully it

616
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: continues to. Improve and, again like if he's got a larger,

617
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 2: role like During OTA's mini camp training, camp like that's

618
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 2: where you're really going to see a lot of that.

619
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: Growth with the chemistry That zach had With Jane daniels

620
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: and the Season zach was, having it felt like a

621
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: no brainer that he was going to be. Back and

622
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: because of the timing and severity of the, injury obviously

623
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: that is very much in question. Now so For, senate

624
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: it's an interesting end of the. Season AND i think

625
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: for the team to evaluate him, too do they need

626
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: to find somebody who is Zach ertz or is he

627
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: Zach ertz for them and play two different Roles and

628
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: that's an evaluation that they're gonna have to make once

629
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 1: the season is.

630
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 2: OVER i think that's a fantastic. Point and, again like

631
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 2: it's SO i feel it feels so unfair to Compare

632
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 2: zach to, anybody, RIGHT i, mean he's like a borderline

633
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 2: probably A hall Of fame tight.

634
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: End real top ten tight. End, yeah like the, time

635
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: he's a.

636
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 2: Fantastic football, player and so like all the stuff that he,

637
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 2: does like it's really challenging to get young players to do,

638
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: it Like coulson. LEVEL i think everybody watched At San

639
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 2: francisco game the other. Night like he has a lot

640
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 2: of that stuff That zach did. Naturally but there's a

641
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 2: reason he's a top ten, pick, right is because he

642
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 2: showed some of that running. Nuance like the other guy

643
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 2: is Like Brock, bauers, Right like those guys are not

644
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: just floating around in the ether of college.

645
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 1: Football they're freakishly athletic players that play at that.

646
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 2: Position and the and they have the mental acumen to

647
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 2: kind of also accompany some of that, stuff Like Kyle.

648
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 2: Pitts like one of my big criticisms Of Kyle pitts

649
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 2: is that he doesn't have any kind of rot running

650
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: nuance or subtlety to. Him it took him five years

651
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 2: to develop, it, Right, So, like if you want a

652
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 2: guy Like Zach, ertz it's going to be a top

653
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 2: fifteen player at the position in the, Draft like in

654
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 2: the in the hole in the whole, draft so it's

655
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 2: going to be really hard to find those. Guys and,

656
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 2: again LIKE i, think if you want a third down

657
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,239
Speaker 2: difference making tight, end it's a different skill set than

658
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: What ben has at the. Moment but that doesn't Mean

659
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: ben can't continue to grow and develop into something that's

660
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 2: going to be a difference making at the.

661
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 5: Position all, right.

662
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: Let's talk About Bill Crosskey, merritt one of the young

663
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: gun by the end of this and he had obviously

664
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: the huge run last, week one hundred and five yards.

665
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,959
Speaker 1: Rushing it's got eight touchdowns now his yardage totals off

666
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: to Get jason to look it, up my WiFi is

667
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: not working in. THERE i want to see where it,

668
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: was but IT'S i think it's up, right eight hundred, now, yeah.

669
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 3: And he's, Yeah and he's done this.

670
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: Right he's done this largely in the middle of the

671
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: season as kind of a part time to little used

672
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: running back for a variety of. Reasons and you're going

673
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: to look at these numbers at the end of the

674
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: year and see a hell of a rookie. Season so

675
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,719
Speaker 1: he came on the scene hit like. Gangbusters The eckler

676
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: injury kind of forced HIM i think onto the scene

677
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: a little quicker than anybody would have. Expected he had

678
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,239
Speaker 1: the boom games early in the, Season Sea rod kind

679
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: of took over in the middle of the, year and

680
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: all of a, sudden because of injuries To Sea, rod

681
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: he's out there again and he's showing off this explosive.

682
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: Tendencies so what are you seeing as his rookie season

683
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: is kind of coming to an.

684
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 2: End, WELL i Think i've seen a guy who's just

685
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 2: in the same way we've talked About Ben sinnett growing through.

686
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 2: Reps in, PRACTICE i think we've Seen Bill krosky MERRICKRO

687
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: i think he's gotten a lot more comfortable not hitting

688
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 2: the home, run like staying on. SCHEDULE i think he's

689
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: running with more, power better forward, lean AND i think

690
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 2: he's better in. Passpro and is he perfect in those, Areas,

691
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: No but has he improved a. Lot. Yeah AND i

692
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: think like having that foundation element to the running back,

693
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 2: position a guy that's going to get you too when

694
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: it's blocked for zero is something that's going to get

695
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 2: him on the field. More and then when he's on

696
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: the field, more you're going to get to see the

697
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,959
Speaker 2: explosive Opportunities like you just talked about, that you, KNOW

698
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 2: I i you, KNOW i haven't seen a running back

699
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 2: do that here in a very long. Time so to

700
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: have that that kind of, dynamic you, know home run

701
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 2: ability with the consistent get on base approach that you

702
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 2: need to play running back at THE nfl, LEVEL i

703
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 2: think it's been great to see him grow in that

704
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 2: area over the last what is it eighteen?

705
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 5: Weeks sixteen? Weeks?

706
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 3: Yeah what what do you want to know? About?

707
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: Uh what is what's his yardist? Totals he got.

708
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 4: Seven seventy six as a, yeah on rushing And dan

709
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 4: doesn't have a lot for, receiving sixty eight receive and

710
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 4: he averages four point eight four point a per.

711
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: Carry that's one of those. THINGS i think the receiving

712
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: part of, this we haven't seen that. Yet, yeah we

713
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: don't really know what he Could he could Be jamior

714
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: gibbsish in a passing. Game we're not really totally sure

715
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: yet because they haven't really tested a lot of. That

716
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 1: to your, point they. Hadn't they WERE i don't, think

717
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: overly confident in his, protection which kept him off the

718
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: field a little. Bit and then there was that period

719
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: of time we talked about this on this show for

720
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: a while where we're, like he's got to wait for

721
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: his pitch and he's gonna learn to do. This, london

722
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: we talked to him. Twice you, know he had two big,

723
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: games The giants game and The cowboys. Game we had him,

724
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: twice you, know after the game in the locker, room

725
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: and both times he brought, Up i'm taking notes of

726
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: WHAT i need to do to get better for next.

727
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: Year so when you heard him say that a couple of,

728
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: times what do you think he's talking?

729
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 4: About first of, ALL i definitely think he's talking about

730
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 4: the past pro aspect of, it just getting better in

731
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 4: that area because that'll get him on the field in

732
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 4: those third down obvious passing. SITUATIONS i think catching the

733
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 4: ball out of the backfield to where to throw the

734
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 4: football to. Him he only has thirteen targets in those.

735
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 4: Situations and even just being able to run with more.

736
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 4: Power we've seen, That we've seen that. Lately he may

737
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 4: want to continue to work on the vision that burst

738
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 4: and all that the jump cut he has that that's

739
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 4: his natural, ability but just being able to consistently run

740
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 4: with power and running behind his, past having that pad

741
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 4: level low when he's coming through, there those are things

742
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 4: that he's gotten better, at and we've seen the fruits

743
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 4: of that late later in the. Season but those are

744
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 4: things that he'll work on doing the off. Season the

745
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 4: pass pro catching the ball out of the, backfield just

746
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 4: being able to run with more, power and Like logan,

747
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 4: said not everything is a home. Run sometimes it's just,

748
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,239
Speaker 4: hey you just got to go in there and be your.

749
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 4: Blocker at times where he said this block for, zero

750
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 4: go get two or. Three just with running through somebody's.

751
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 4: Face you know that's H BUT i love to hear

752
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 4: not just a young player say, this but a player

753
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 4: in general say, hey there are so many things THAT

754
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 4: i need To there's some things THAT i need to work.

755
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 4: On he's, like, Yeah i'm happy with What i've, done

756
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 4: But i'm not. Satisfied and that's what you want from

757
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 4: not just a young, player you want that from all

758
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 4: your football.

759
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: Players he can. Improvise he's got incredible, Vision he's got

760
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: more power THAN i think we probably initially thought he

761
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: would have when he, runs and so he's a hit to.

762
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: ME i think when he and hopefully becomes more of

763
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: a total package for, them he's a, dangerous dangerous.

764
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 3: Player for, THAT i mean here's another THING i think

765
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: he would want to work.

766
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 4: On there was a couple of times where he got

767
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 4: clipped up on those when he's gotten to the second,

768
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 4: level the ability to be able to break those tackles

769
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 4: on that when he's got to the not second, level

770
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 4: he's got to the third, level where he's got to

771
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 4: a safety level, too where, hey it goes from a

772
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 4: fifteen yard game or twenty yard game to the seventy yard.

773
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 4: Game he didn't have to break a tackle on that

774
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 4: seventy two yarder against the. Safety but just being able

775
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 4: to add that, element however it will, be and maybe you,

776
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 4: know being able to get his legs, up get those feet,

777
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 4: up or it's a subtle, move it may be a

778
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 4: in and out on a, guy whatever the case may,

779
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 4: be to be able to add more explosive runs to HIS,

780
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 4: uh to his. Repertoire, again he'll he'll he'll continue to

781
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 4: build HIS, uh build his.

782
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 2: Repertoire and like to your point about it being a Hit,

783
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: rahim like he's a seventh round, pick like this IS i,

784
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: MEAN i DON'T i don't, care LIKE i don't care

785
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: what YOUR i. KNOW i don't think anybody expected him

786
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 2: to be this productive this year in his rookie, season, Right,

787
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: like so he's done a great job AND i.

788
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: Think one game last, year, right and so for him to.

789
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 2: Do this and come out and play the way he's,

790
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 2: PLAYED i think it's a TESTIMON i mean really to

791
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: the entire draftcat. Class Connor Lee, amos you, Know Jalen

792
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 2: lanez had a great year Obviously kanes and more on

793
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: special teams. Lately but to get your seventh round pick

794
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 2: and build to be playing this way like that's that's

795
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: not a bad group of explosive playmakers that have hitt

796
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 2: in different ways and at different times this year and

797
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: had different developmental. Arcs but, like, man it caninda say

798
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 2: those guys could be building blocks moving into twenty twenty

799
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: six for.

800
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 5: Sure.

801
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 3: Yeah and work on fumbling, protecting, yeah that's.

802
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 5: Right.

803
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: Protective, yeah he has.

804
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 3: Three, Fumbles so just constant work on. That and.

805
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 4: Because you, know you got to be able to, trust

806
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 4: to be trusted too ahead on that football and you

807
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 4: know that's that's one Thing i'm sure another area that

808
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 4: he'll and you don't have to worry for the off

809
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 4: season to work on that aspect of.

810
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 3: It work on that. Now they continue to work on.

811
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 1: That all, right let's get to a couple of the old.

812
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: Hats we went to all the young. GUNS i want

813
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: to start With. Debo that was WHAT i think they

814
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: envisioned when they brought him here a year. Ago this

815
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: these moments where he's energy for, them he's a big,

816
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: play he's run after the, catch he changes field position

817
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: in one. MOMENT i think we saw this In week.

818
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: One remember Early remember back in the, preseason he was

819
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: the only quote unquote starting receiver that was out there

820
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: at least throughout the course of the, summer got a

821
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: lot of opportunities or finding ways to get on the.

822
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: Ball they did this in this game as, well and

823
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: we SAW i think the debo that they envisioned when

824
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: they brought him here in the first.

825
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 2: Place, yeah and they've been. TRYING i think there's a

826
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: couple of things that go into. That like they've tried

827
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 2: a little bit to get him involved in this way

828
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: earlier this. Year AND i want to Give cliff a shout, out.

829
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: MAN i, thought like the reverse the screen, specifically like

830
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 2: it wasn't like overly, technical but it was just enough

831
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: to kind of create some indecision in the. Defense there's

832
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 2: a little bit of motion ahead of. Time they kind

833
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 2: of do the ball fake the. Guy the, linebackers the

834
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: second level players on the screen specifically are kind of

835
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 2: running with that, motion running with that. Action connelly does

836
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: a great job getting to the. Perimeter like you just

837
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 2: put not Only debo in a good position to be,

838
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 2: successful but you made the block for beatas you made

839
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: the block For connolly really.

840
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 5: Easily then on.

841
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: The, reverse just the way that was executed, again there's

842
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 2: a little bit of eye candy pre, snap you kind

843
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 2: of lose who's actually getting the. Football the guys in

844
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 2: the perimeter are blocking, well and then Again Connory beiatish

845
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 2: to the second, level they are do a great. Job

846
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 2: so in terms of, DESIGN i think a lot of

847
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 2: credit goes To Cliff in terms of utilizing him because

848
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: early in the, season like there were TIMES i remember

849
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: watching The Green bay game where they're trying to throw

850
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 2: him a screen and it's like, obvious all the eyes are.

851
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 2: There you, know he has a lot of gravity to

852
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: him as a, player and rightfully, so SO i think

853
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 2: understanding how to use him has gotten, better and understanding

854
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 2: the execution of on those plays specifically has gotten. Better

855
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: and then the other THING i want to point OUT

856
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 2: i think he's, healthier. RIGHT i think there was that

857
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: period of time where he had that heel injury where

858
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: you could tell that he wasn't quite, right so to.

859
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: Kind of something happened in The atlanta game where he

860
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: like stepped on something or.

861
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 2: Well you, know so like you, Know i'm down there

862
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: on the. Sideline they got their their their warning track is.

863
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: Concrete so if you step on that going we know

864
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 2: when he scored that go like that go baal, touchdown

865
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: he stepped on. That i'm sure that's when he did.

866
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 2: It and again like he you've had foot, Injuries fletch like.

867
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 2: It i've had foot, injuries it Really And i'm not

868
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 2: an explosive, guy but like people who are explosive when

869
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 2: they have something going on with their, feet like it

870
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: just you're not. Right and SO i think you saw

871
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 2: a lot of that this year and again you, know

872
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 2: to see, that to see that final final vision come

873
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: together probably since The chargers, GAME i thought was pretty.

874
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 3: Cool, yeah it affects as explosive, guys.

875
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 5: Yeah super.

876
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 6: Explosive yeah, yeah, no it's and also having a healthy

877
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 6: tear out there and The Tray burks who's made play

878
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 6: place as.

879
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 4: Well so now there was there were times where he

880
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 4: was truly the defenses were all focused on, him, like,

881
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 4: hey we're all eyes are on, him all eyes On,

882
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 4: Debo like you, know we we know he's the only

883
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 4: guy that they trust In zack as. Well but you, Know,

884
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 4: zack you don't you don't Expect zach to kind of

885
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 4: beat you taking the top off the. Defense it's so

886
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 4: those two guys were the focus points of defenses and

887
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 4: he just, man he looked LIKE i don't know what

888
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 4: he got up to miles per hour on that on that.

889
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 4: SCREENPLAY i would love to see the numbers he was.

890
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 4: Rolling and then to finish not held, it you, know

891
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 4: five yards off his. Head and and again he brings

892
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 4: you mentioned the, energy the attitude that he brings to

893
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 4: a football team as. Well when you get you gotta,

894
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 4: hey they call Him debo for a. Reason, man you

895
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 4: got a guy who brings. Attitude not many corner safeties

896
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 4: are going to be able to fit physically tackle him

897
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 4: one on. One and there were times where like the

898
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 4: one game comes of mind against The Kansas City. Chiefs

899
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 4: it was a, game it was a pass he catches

900
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 4: and it's him one on one with a safety and

901
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 4: the safety is able to tackle. Him and that's when you,

902
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 4: say now he's not he's not, healthy because.

903
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 3: A healthy debo tag that safety is in.

904
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 4: Trouble he's gonna pick up the yards needed to get

905
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 4: the first down end up BEING i think a yard

906
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 4: shy of getting the first. Down, so as you, Mentioned,

907
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 4: logan he was not healthy throughout a good portion of this.

908
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 4: Season On saturday against The, cowboys he was and we saw.

909
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 2: That AND i think that's the other thing that really

910
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: sticks out to me, too is like how violently and

911
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 2: again the attitude that. BRINGS i think that's a great, Point,

912
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 2: fletch because like it wasn't obviously the screen is this demonstrative,

913
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 2: finish but the reverse it takes three guys to bring

914
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 2: him down the dig that he catches like he, is

915
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 2: he is accelerating in the, contact and like so when

916
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: you have to like the mentality of the of the

917
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 2: defender to kind of deal with.

918
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: That he's as good as any high level running back

919
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: once he gets to the second. Level that's been His

920
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 1: that's been the magic of him through the. Years LIKE

921
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: i have to look it up because it's in the

922
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: in the releases every, Week but like his yards after

923
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: catch is among top two or three in THE nfl

924
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: over the last five. Years, yeah that's. Him once he

925
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: gets into, space forget about.

926
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 5: It, NO i think that's a great.

927
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: Point, Again LIKE i think about him In, miami when

928
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: he catches that screen for a, touchdown he's hit at

929
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 2: the five yard line and breaks the tackle and falls

930
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 2: over a guy like you just don't see receivers doing.

931
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 2: That and SO i, think like the like the design

932
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 2: of the offense has gotten. Better and ALSO i think

933
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 2: that Having terry having trail and having guys that force

934
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: you to defend grass in a different way like is is.

935
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: Significant AND i know people want to like overlook, that

936
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 2: but it's a huge.

937
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 5: Factor AND i think Seeing pritish room.

938
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 3: Just to take, it take it a, step bring it,

939
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 3: on bring it.

940
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 4: Home in terms of him And bram your point about

941
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 4: being a running back after he catch the. Ball WHEN

942
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 4: i WHEN i Met deebo And i've seen, him you,

943
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 4: KNOW i mean in the, offseason he wasn't he.

944
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 3: Was i'm looking at him, like, damn what do you

945
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 3: tackle this? Guy?

946
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 4: Like cause that's the first THING i think as as

947
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 4: a linebacker or just a defender in, general where AM

948
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 4: i going to tackle? HIM i looked at that when

949
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 4: it was a running, back and it's not just hey

950
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 4: with the bigger, guys like do you do you hit

951
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 4: him in the?

952
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 3: Thigh do you try to hit him in the?

953
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 4: Knees do you hit him up high like a guy

954
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 4: Like Brandon, jacobs a guy Like Jerome, Battis where do

955
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 4: you tackle this? Guy looking at a guy Like deebo

956
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 4: or even a guy Like krista McCaffrey Or Darren, sproz

957
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 4: you're kind of sizing him, up, Like, okay what's my

958
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 4: tackle plan against? Him and D q actually, mentioned actually

959
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 4: mentioned that when they Brought debo, in, like, hey we

960
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 4: had to have a tackling plan for.

961
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 3: Him defenses have to have a tackling plan for.

962
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 4: Him and when you're when you're out there one with

963
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 4: a guy like, this you better hope your plan. Works

964
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 4: sometimes it, does a lot of times it.

965
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: Doesn't, yeah it didn't work this week for The. Cowboys

966
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: we saw this on Display Derrick henry as this, now

967
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 1: we saw this Against Green bay the other night where

968
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: when he gets, going forget about. It this is why

969
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 1: he's A hall Of fame running. Back All, Right i'll

970
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: get back to the other hold hat in. MINUTE i

971
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: want to spend a little bit more time On Bobby.

972
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 1: Wagner but since we're talking about the, offense let's stay

973
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 1: on that for a. Minute you, know this was shaking.

974
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: Up i'll tell you what me And logan were. Worried,

975
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: okay we were. Worried we were Worried christmas wasn't going

976
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: to go very. Well and the result didn't go very.

977
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: Well but we were worried because Here's Josh johnson make

978
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: it his first. Start there's a lot of people. Missing

979
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: tunsel isn't, Plague Chris rodriguez has an, illness you, know

980
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: the day of, like and we all know what the

981
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: defense has been doing this, year and we all know

982
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: What dallas's offense has been doing this, year and we're

983
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 1: all smelling At. Christmas we don't want to, remember, right

984
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: and they, Again, Cliff Josh johnson that grow but right,

985
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: RIGHT i forgot loud did was like all over. This

986
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: he's like screaming air it, out screaming like watch what happens?

987
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: Here you were you were actually on it that the

988
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: offense was gonna have a good.

989
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 3: Day, YEAH i just WHEN i WHEN i looked At.

990
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 4: DALLAS i, mean their offense is, dynamic but that defense

991
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 4: leads a lot to be. DESIRED i, mean especially when

992
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 4: it comes to defending the. Pass, Now bill had the

993
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 4: seventy two yard, run and we talked, About, Hey dallas

994
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 4: coming into that, game they WERE i think twenty is

995
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 4: stopping a. Run BUT i was looking at the. NUMBERS

996
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 4: i crossed the numbers when when they Had Quinn williams

997
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 4: on that defense in terms of how, much how significantly

998
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 4: better as a run defense they were with him on

999
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 4: the field, ESPECIALLY i think they were giving up seventy

1000
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 4: nine yards a game a game With Quinn williams on the.

1001
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 4: Field he didn't play The chargers game and, coincidentally The

1002
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 4: chargers rushed for one fifty. Two but all those other, Games,

1003
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 4: man there's a lot of games where teams aren't even

1004
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 4: getting anywhere near one.

1005
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 3: Hundred yards against.

1006
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 4: Them But i'm looking At, okay we got a healthy

1007
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 4: we got a Healthy, terry we got a healthy De.

1008
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 4: Ball Trey burks is starting to emerge as a pass,

1009
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 4: catcher And terry always had good games against The. Cowboys

1010
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 4: that's Why i'm, like, hey let's bring them. Out let's

1011
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 4: air the. Football that's staring around the yard and really

1012
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 4: force these Forced cowboys to defend the, pass and you

1013
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 4: know they able. To they had a thirty second rate

1014
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 4: pass defense for a. Reason SO i just liked OUR

1015
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 4: i like the matchups in the passing game against The.

1016
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 5: Cowboys, YEAH i think. SO i agree with you kind

1017
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 5: of in.

1018
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 2: RETROSPECT i always thought that thirty second or leads at

1019
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 2: the end of the game was more of a more

1020
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 2: indicative of game flow because their offense is putting up

1021
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: all these, points they're in these, shootouts teams are trying

1022
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 2: to catch, Up they're going to see more.

1023
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 5: Passes, obviously that's kind of the way fast this. Year, yeah,

1024
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 5: yeah that's kind of the WAY i interpreted.

1025
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: That, Obviously, fletches you, know A hall Of fame player

1026
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 2: for a, reason or release spar smart dude for a.

1027
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 5: Reason BUT i know a bad.

1028
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 3: Defense But i've seen what, yes, Right but.

1029
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 5: WHAT i will say is so to this point about bad.

1030
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 2: Defense so like when you the one thing THAT i

1031
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 2: did notice when you watch mon tape is that they

1032
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: play traditional cover. Three so Like Vic fangio when he

1033
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 2: plays cover, three it's gonna almost feel, like, man.

1034
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 5: It's like this weird highbred they flood.

1035
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 2: Zones same thing with like this is a little different defensive,

1036
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 2: philosophy Like, minnesota like they match concepts really really, well And,

1037
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: dallas for whatever, reason they play the more traditional where it's, like,

1038
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 2: Hey i'm dropping to spots and, recently if you play

1039
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 2: that style of, defense like you can throw the ball

1040
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 2: in those. Teams so people are, like, well why can

1041
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 2: We why we're able to throw the comeback To, terry

1042
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 2: the out to trail In, burks the comeback To terry,

1043
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 2: again it's because they're in cover three and they're change

1044
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: up as man and man, Coverage SO i like a

1045
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 2: comeback in both of those looks because there's no underneath

1046
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 2: hook player on either side of that. Right so to,

1047
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 2: me it was like, yes To fletch his, point like

1048
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 2: it's a bad defense because stylistically they do things that

1049
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 2: are a little bit easier for quarterbacks to see and

1050
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 2: read And, josh you, know, he's to his, credit, man

1051
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 2: he's played a lot of football and so he can identify.

1052
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 5: Cover three versus.

1053
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 4: Logan you mentioned that comeback and your your vanished, Point

1054
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 4: polygi WAS i know it's different because you're on the.

1055
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 4: Field it's different than the vanish, point we see up

1056
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 4: in the booth that comeback that he threw the tear the,

1057
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 4: deep deep up kind of out. Comeback that was a

1058
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 4: heck of a. Throw it's, uh you gotta it's that

1059
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 4: was a throw WHAT i would say between two defenders

1060
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 4: around two defenders because they actually had it defended pretty,

1061
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 4: well and For josh to make that throw to trust,

1062
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 4: IT i, mean it wasn't a whole lot of space

1063
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 4: on that sidelines and he that was a that was

1064
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 4: a dark that was a dime. Throw so let's give.

1065
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 4: It let's get some credit on.

1066
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 2: That but and so SO i Think i'm not trying

1067
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 2: to take anyth away From, Josh like this is definitely

1068
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: an easier out Than. Philly, right he did make some,

1069
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 2: Throws like one of my favorite throws of the game

1070
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 2: is like when he Checks terry on like the big

1071
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: like the bench out or the corner route and it's

1072
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: not there and he Hits debo over the middle of

1073
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 2: the field like working through its. Progression like he did

1074
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 2: a lot of good, stuff, RIGHT i just think it's,

1075
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 2: again it's a little bit, Easier like to your, point

1076
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 2: like they're the thirty second ranked defense for a reason

1077
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 2: Versus dallas as opposed To, philly and he still played,

1078
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 2: well like he made good, decisions didn't didn't have a

1079
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: lot of negative, plays didn't put the ball in harms

1080
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 2: way And cliff you could Tell like the other thing

1081
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 2: we talk about every pregame show is like when you're

1082
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: a little bit nicked up offensively and you're not at your, Best,

1083
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 2: like how do you find your five. Explosives, oh let's

1084
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 2: get a screen To terry or a screen To debo

1085
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 2: for an explosive to.

1086
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 5: Play let's get a, reverse let's get a dig to

1087
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 5: you know What i'm.

1088
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 2: Saying they were able to find some of these opportunities

1089
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 2: just through, good well executed not trick, plays but like

1090
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 2: plays that led to explosive plays that are low leverage

1091
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 2: throws for the.

1092
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 4: Quarterback, yeah WHAT i loved about When bram AND i

1093
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 4: we get an opportunity And logan you interview a lot

1094
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 4: of players too after the, games when we're able to

1095
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 4: kind of ask a question and the answer that we,

1096
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 4: get we totally wasn't anticipating the. Response so whether it

1097
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 4: Was Trey burke and some of the times we've had

1098
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 4: him opportunities to ask ask him, Questions, bill But bram

1099
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 4: AND i when we Interviewed josh and we asked him

1100
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 4: how was He bram asked a question like how he

1101
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 4: was able to be like play so well and so

1102
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 4: have so much confidence in that. Game And, brad you

1103
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 4: remember he SAID dq had a conversation with.

1104
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 3: Him. Mom was It thursday night or he said one.

1105
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 4: Of those days D q came to him and told, him, hey,

1106
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 4: man you got, this go home and get some.

1107
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 3: Rest, man just trust in your your. Experience AND dq

1108
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 3: told him to.

1109
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 4: Trust his experience and it was like that just gave

1110
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 4: him so much confidence going into the.

1111
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 3: Game and, MAN i was, like, yeah this is.

1112
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 5: Awesome there's something really.

1113
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 2: Special like that's an underrated thing, too like people, like,

1114
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 2: oh like how does how does how does coaching impact?

1115
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 2: Players AND i think that's something that as a undrafted

1116
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 2: free agent who was always a fringe roster, guy when

1117
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 2: a coach came up to said and, like, man you're

1118
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 2: going to have an excellent game today BECAUSE, xyz like

1119
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 2: it just breathes this life into you because you're, like, hey,

1120
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 2: man like that guy has, played he's watched a lot of, Ball,

1121
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 2: DAN i, mean you, know like and for him to

1122
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 2: come out and say that. Like it just it's a

1123
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 2: cool moment for a coach to know exactly what a

1124
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 2: player needs to hear and then for him to go

1125
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: out and play the way he.

1126
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 5: Did that's really.

1127
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: COOL i heard a quote From Philip rivers yesterday after they,

1128
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: lost and he's now zero and three in his. Return

1129
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: but it's been a joy, ride it sounds, like and

1130
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: it really matters to. Him and someone asked him, about you,

1131
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: know this is meaningless, games and he, said WHEN i

1132
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: was a kid and we played in the backyard and we,

1133
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 1: lost AND i went home, crying that was a meaningless.

1134
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: Game but it really. Wasn't none of this is. Meaningless

1135
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: it never. Is AND i was thinking about Just, johnson

1136
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: And i'm, like here's a guy's thirty nine years. Old

1137
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: he's been in the league since two thousand and. Eight

1138
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: he probably never thought he was going to play in

1139
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 1: a game this year at, all, right Because Jayden daniels

1140
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: And Marcus mariota are on the roster ad of, him

1141
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: and here they are at four to eleven and he

1142
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: asked to. Play and you'd, think like human nature would

1143
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: be Like i'll take that back up, paycheck you, know

1144
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: like we don't need to do, this but that wasn't

1145
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: his attitude about it. Whatsoever it really truly mattered to.

1146
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 1: Him so if you're ever, wondering, like do these guys

1147
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: have this feeling for this game regardless of the, circumstances

1148
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: these are two prime, examples and one of them's in

1149
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: this building with the way that he, played the way

1150
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: that he, prepared and how it mattered to. Him and

1151
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: he was. Londy he was upset that they, Lost like

1152
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: he felt like they left a few things on the.

1153
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: Field he was upset that they.

1154
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 4: Lost, yeah, absolutely THERE'S i don't there's no such thing

1155
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 4: as a meanless, game AND i don't care if it's,

1156
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 4: preseason regular, season. Postseason they might not all. Count so

1157
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 4: in the preseason they don't, count but they matter right.

1158
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 4: Now four and, eleven four and, twelve whatever the case may,

1159
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,479
Speaker 4: be four and, thirteen it doesn't, count so to, speak,

1160
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 4: accounts but it doesn't count because, hey we're not going

1161
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 4: to make the.

1162
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 3: Playoffs but it.

1163
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 4: Matters it matters for every body associated with the organization

1164
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 4: because how you performing, LOSSES i think are just as

1165
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 4: important to how you perform in. Wins we've had some

1166
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 4: ugly losses in this during this season where you got

1167
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 4: you're losing what for in a row by twenty plus.

1168
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 4: Points and then we've had the loss against The broncos

1169
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 4: where you where you go for the go for the

1170
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 4: two point, conversion lost the ball, game but totally different

1171
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 4: outlook and how we look looked in that game lost

1172
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 4: against The cowboys look totally different than that. Loss so

1173
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 4: and they all they all. Matter they might not, count

1174
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 4: but those players fight for to extend their. Careers young

1175
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 4: players showing that, Hey i'm a, guy you can build a,

1176
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 4: Pump i'm a state, guy guy that you want to

1177
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 4: continue to have her on this football team when this

1178
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,919
Speaker 4: thing turns. Around and also you got guys being free

1179
00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 4: agents who are auditioning for for thirty two other thirty

1180
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 4: one other. Teams and you, know anytime you step on

1181
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 4: that football team on that football, field you have to

1182
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 4: autograph your work and you have to take pride in.

1183
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 3: Ownership.

1184
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 2: Yeah and like For Josh johnson, specifically like he hasn't

1185
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 2: played for as long as he's played because he's like

1186
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 2: casual about, football, yeah and like he probably wants to

1187
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 2: play next. Year and you know a good way to

1188
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 2: do that is to go out and ball and like

1189
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 2: SO i thought you did a great job of doing,

1190
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 2: that and like you talked about autographing your, Work, Fletch

1191
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 2: like you, KNOW i was always like the fringe roster,

1192
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 2: guy and these games at the end of the season were,

1193
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 2: like they're your resume for next. Year and so Like

1194
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 2: Josh johnson knows that better than, anybody anybody in the.

1195
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 2: World Josh johnson knows that. Thing so like he's gonna

1196
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 2: go out there and give it everything he's, got which

1197
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 2: is which is.

1198
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 4: Cool i'm gonna share a quick story with me my final,

1199
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 4: career my final season In. Washington we get to think

1200
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 4: his week week sixteen or week fifteen. Sixteen we only

1201
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 4: played sixteen games back. Then we're playing The Dallas cowboys

1202
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 4: AND i come, home my, wife my late, wife and my.

1203
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 3: Kids we.

1204
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 4: Go we get home from a friend's house On Christmas

1205
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 4: day AND i started watching. Film this might be eight

1206
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 4: o'clock at, night and she comes to me and she's, Like,

1207
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 4: hey how.

1208
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 3: Many of your teammates do you think are at? Home?

1209
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 4: No, no she asked, me have you ever gone into

1210
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 4: a game feeling? Unprepared AND i was. Perplexed i'm, like

1211
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 4: why would you ask? Me Like i'm appalled by, that

1212
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 4: like you see me every, Day, like, No i've never felt.

1213
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 3: Unprepared AND i, said why would you ask me?

1214
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 4: That she, said how many of your teammates do you

1215
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 4: think are at home On christmas night studying.

1216
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 3: Football right? NOW i was, LIKE i don't know AND

1217
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 3: i don't.

1218
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 4: Care, again so what She the reason she asked me

1219
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 4: that question is, well she wanted to spend some time with.

1220
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 3: Me she wanted us, like, hey let's watch a, movie

1221
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 3: whatever the case may.

1222
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 4: Be in the part to add context to, this we're

1223
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 4: getting ready to play The. Cowboys this is my fourteenth

1224
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 4: time In, washington getting ready to face The Dallas. COWBOYS

1225
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 4: i knew they offense like the back of my. HAND

1226
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 4: i knew how to cover with AND i Knew, ROMAR

1227
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 4: i knew their running. BACKS i could have gone into

1228
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 4: that game not having, prepared like watch a little bit more.

1229
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 4: Film that night and the day BEFORE i had announced my,

1230
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 4: retirement Like i'm. Retiring we got this last home game

1231
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 4: against The, cowboys then we got a final game against

1232
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 4: The New York. Giants but there was nothing inside of

1233
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 4: me that was going to allow me not to prepare

1234
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 4: the same WAY i had always prepared going into these.

1235
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 3: Games it just WASN'T i just couldn't do.

1236
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,919
Speaker 4: It so a guy, like to your point About Josh

1237
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 4: johnson and the, pros we don't know any other way

1238
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 4: to do. It every game, matters every rep, matters regardless

1239
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 4: of the, situation and we weren't very good at twenty thirteen.

1240
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:53,479
Speaker 1: Either that sass you Know i've gotten you has probably gotten.

1241
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: Too i've gotten a million texts from people you know

1242
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: about this year and they're, like, boy but you can't

1243
00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: wait to get through this one and just stuff like.

1244
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 1: That And i'm, like, WELL i wish they were, winning

1245
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: but it doesn't change the. Preparation And i'm like this,

1246
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: Week i'm, like we're calling A Washington dallas game On Christmas. Day,

1247
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: yeah there is nothing not special about, that nothing not

1248
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: important about. That it is an incredible opportunity and privileged

1249
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: to do. It and to think that anybody would like downplay.

1250
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: That AND i can only imagine with you, guys what

1251
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 1: you're doing physically to get ready to do that on the.

1252
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 1: Field there is no other. Way there.

1253
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 2: Isn't, well the thing that you always used to get

1254
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 2: me is, like IF i didn't prepare as best AS

1255
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 2: i could, physically mentally, Emotionally LIKE i felt LIKE i

1256
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 2: was like doing not only Like fletcher, disservice but doing

1257
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 2: like my family of, Disservice like like that's like my

1258
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 2: dad and his friends watched the game on the, weekend

1259
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 2: right and LIKE i want him to be like that's

1260
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 2: my that's my boy right. There you know What i'm,

1261
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 2: Saying like there's a there's a, special special opportunity. There and,

1262
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 2: again the other thing THAT i was always worried about

1263
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 2: it is like if you, don't if you if there

1264
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 2: was even a moment.

1265
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 5: Of, doubt, fletch LIKE i always gonna get. Hurt you.

1266
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 2: KNOW i needed to make SURE i was there mentally

1267
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 2: every single. Opportunity and it's funny like WHEN i was

1268
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 2: a little bit, off that's WHEN i did get. Hurt

1269
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 2: and you're, like, man it's because of that thing THAT

1270
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 2: i didn't take care of, before so.

1271
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 4: Or not even get, hurt just not be able to

1272
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 4: perform at your best and your optimal because you're you

1273
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 4: don't want to be thinking on a football.

1274
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 3: Field you want to just be.

1275
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,919
Speaker 4: Reacting, HEY i know my responsibility as know my job

1276
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 4: and let me just go out react and execute whatever

1277
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 4: the case may. Be you don't want to be thinking

1278
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 4: about coverage as you're running your route because now you're, like,

1279
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 4: NO i know this.

1280
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 3: COVERAGE i. Trusted let me go win and get make myself.

1281
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: Available all, right two kick tops before we. Go one

1282
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 1: on the. Defense all, RIGHT i want to get your

1283
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: thoughts on. This cowboys go eight of twenty on third,

1284
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: down unbelievably six of six on fourth. Down almost uncanny

1285
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: how they were, converting especially in the first, half but

1286
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: it was on second. Down, jason our, producer put all

1287
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: these down AND i remember some of them in. OTHERS

1288
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: i was, like, wow that was on These they got

1289
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: them behind the chains so many Times dallas got out of.

1290
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 1: It Malik davis for sixteen yards on a second and eighteen,

1291
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 1: Uh Javonte williams nine yard rush on the second and,

1292
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 1: Ten Ceedee lamb eleven yard reception on a second and,

1293
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 1: Nine dak scrambles for six on a second and. Ten

1294
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:13,959
Speaker 1: they got a fourteen yard reception to convert on the third.

1295
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: Down lamb on a seven yard catch for on a

1296
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: second and. Fifteen thirty eight goes back to him for

1297
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: twenty four second and eight when Span ford had the

1298
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: thirty one yard seam Route Hunter, Lipkey this was a

1299
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: killer on a second and sixteen got fourteen yards on

1300
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 1: what was a dump? Off it was a. Mistackle it

1301
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: was Six, yeah that was that Was that was third and,

1302
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: sixteen was?

1303
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 5: It?

1304
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: Yeah and then and then the long turbin play was

1305
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: a long third down play as. Well that was a

1306
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: free play by the way they would have they would

1307
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: have got a, penalty but they got. That, Anyway what

1308
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: do you make of that that they had a lot

1309
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: of success on first down against them but just failed

1310
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: to get them off the.

1311
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 2: Field, WELL i think like just going through these like

1312
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 2: the second eighteen like to, me like The nickels in

1313
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 2: a tough, Spot like we talked about that a little

1314
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 2: bit pre, show, right The hunter The lipkey, thing like

1315
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 2: we just got a rally and, tackle. Right so some

1316
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 2: of it's just like each one kind of presents its own.

1317
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 2: Issue The dax, scramble like can we contain the quarterback

1318
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 2: a little bit?

1319
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 3: Better?

1320
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 2: Right like some of them like you got to take

1321
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 2: your hat off and, say, man like they did a

1322
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 2: great job on, those like The lamb eleven art yard,

1323
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 2: reception like that's a great, route that's a great. Protection

1324
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 2: like would you, say, oh we could get pressure with. Four,

1325
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 2: yeah but that's AN nfl football. Team that's one of

1326
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,439
Speaker 2: the best receiving quarterback duos in THE. Nfl like they're

1327
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 2: going to get, theirs, right it's the other ones that, Hurt,

1328
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 2: right it's the turpin third and eleven where you don't

1329
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 2: execute The tampa two. Correctly like so of, THESE i,

1330
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 2: mean what is that one? Too just the ONES i listed,

1331
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 2: off there's four right. There the you, say, man, like

1332
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 2: that's four opportunities for us to have if we had

1333
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 2: just been a little bit, Better like maybe the game shifts.

1334
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 2: Drastically they're off the, field we get the offense more

1335
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 2: bites at the, apple like the offense had forty one.

1336
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 2: Plays there's an offensive elopment there in terms of converting

1337
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 2: on third, down but, defensively like when you're in these

1338
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 2: long down and, distances Like i'm not the expert on

1339
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 2: it that, fletches but as an offensive, PLAYER i know

1340
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 2: when we're in these, situations the math is against. Us

1341
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 2: the analytics our, guest because you're not supposed to convert.

1342
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 2: Those AND i look at these AND i, say if

1343
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 2: some of these are just just it's not for lack of,

1344
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 2: effort it's just a little bit of execution here and

1345
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 2: there that leads to explosive opportunities that keep stallus on the.

1346
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 4: Field the frustrating thing is you list off a lot

1347
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 4: of those Plays dallas didn't. Earn that's the frustrating part

1348
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 4: WHEN i say they didn't earn a lot of these

1349
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 4: those situation it's really the like you mentioned the third and.

1350
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 4: Sixteen you know you make the, tackle they're probably gonna

1351
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 4: be eight yards. Short that's fourth to. Eighth they're not

1352
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 4: gonna go fourth and fourth and, eight they're gonna. Plant

1353
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 4: we get the football. Back the run play the SECOND

1354
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 4: i think it was the second and sixteen run where

1355
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 4: he goes for fourteen, Second, yes. Sixteen that's a fit.

1356
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 4: Issue we didn't fit that run. Correctly and again it's

1357
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 4: everybody knowing what my fit.

1358
00:59:58,080 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 3: Is the call.

1359
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 4: Is the call is a really good call because you

1360
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 4: got you got an eighth man in the box that

1361
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 4: he's gonna rotate. Late but everybody has to fit it.

1362
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 4: Correctly and, also as a defensive, player especially whether YOU'RE

1363
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 4: d lineman or, whatever screens and draws on third and

1364
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 4: really long, situations you got to, understand, hey this is

1365
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 4: this IS i can't just run up the, field think

1366
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 4: it pass for us all the time to either SOMETIMES

1367
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 4: i gotta, think, oh let me make sure this is

1368
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 4: not a draw BEFORE i go and rust this. Passer

1369
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 4: so there was so many. Things situational. Awareness we got

1370
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 4: to understand the situation is better. Too and the six of,

1371
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 4: six you look at those six for six on fourth,

1372
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 4: downs they were what fourth and, one fourth and TWO'S

1373
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 4: i don't even know the longest. ONE i don't even

1374
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 4: think they had a fourth and three that they went

1375
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 4: for so and a lot of those were we had

1376
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 4: him in the third and long that allowed them to

1377
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 4: get to this are. Scenario but we had him in

1378
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 4: a second and long that allowed them to get to

1379
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 4: a third and, short and they might not have gotten

1380
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 4: enough third, down but they end up being in a

1381
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 4: fourth and got to a fourth to one.

1382
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 3: Situation so that's on. Us that is on us as a.

1383
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 4: Defense some of, them too many of them That Dallas

1384
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 4: cowboys did not earn those first, downs and we got

1385
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 4: to take ownership of.

1386
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 3: That they didn't own those earn those.

1387
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 5: Plays AND i think that's a frustrating.

1388
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 2: Thing like, again like doing this job by a, grade

1389
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 2: try to grade every, play like just kind of plus

1390
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 2: minus for the. Players So i've watched a lot of defensive,

1391
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 2: film and the frustrating thing for me WHEN i watch a,

1392
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 2: defense it's, like there's a lot of good stuff in.

1393
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 2: There pbu's good, tackles good run, fits disruptive plays Like

1394
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 2: johnny running down that running back on second and ten

1395
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 2: to make it a, Third, like there's good stuff in, there,

1396
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 2: Right it's That it's there are a handful of red plays,

1397
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 2: though where it's like this is we had a mental,

1398
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 2: mistake or we didn't fit the run, correctly or we

1399
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 2: didn't tackle, well and over the course of a, game

1400
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 2: like it's just those are the tipping points between giving

1401
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 2: up third and giving up sixteen, Points like it's that

1402
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 2: is the razor's. Edge you're walking every single game and

1403
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 2: they're a good team and they're gonna get their, Credit

1404
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 2: AND i think What fletch's talking about is, like, yeah

1405
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 2: you understand that as a. Player it's the ones that

1406
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 2: that you didn't execute the way you're supposed to that

1407
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 2: really really. Hurt and when you look at the, sheet you're, like, man,

1408
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 2: like they played, Well like you can't say they played

1409
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 2: well enough to, win but they did enough good stuff

1410
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 2: that they should have, won but they didn't do it

1411
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 2: enough on these critical moments that led to these fourth and,

1412
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 2: shorts these third and shorts that you just can't.

1413
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 3: Overcome, YEAH i.

1414
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 4: WAS i mean just amount of frustration that that has

1415
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 4: to be ON dq and the defensive, coaches because when

1416
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 4: you get you want a, team as you mentioned brown

1417
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 4: behind the, Sticks we behind the? Sticks is what second

1418
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 4: and seven or second and, Eight, yes, longer third and

1419
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 4: probably third and six or longer we've. Had we had

1420
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 4: those scenarios multiple times and they were able to overcome

1421
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 4: those convert whether the third, down convert fourth, down and

1422
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 4: that's why you get the big discrepancy of time of,

1423
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 4: possession where what they had about eighteen minute discrepancy and

1424
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 4: time of possession, yep is because of. THAT i, mean

1425
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 4: look at What office was able to do in just

1426
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 4: what forty one plays of.

1427
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 3: Offense.

1428
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 1: Yep just go look at conversion rates once you get

1429
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 1: to second and, seven second and six to second and,

1430
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: eight it's a massive difference between the two of. THEM

1431
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: i actually think we may see a lot of this

1432
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: is this plays the FORM i was asked like, recently

1433
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 1: like what do you think the differences with The eagles

1434
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: offense yesterday was absurd that they had seventeen. Yards i'm, like,

1435
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: actually ALL i think it is is they don't have

1436
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 1: a lot of success early downs running the, ball and

1437
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: they've become everybody else because they're not in second and

1438
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 1: five and second and four like they were over the

1439
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 1: last three. Years AND i don't know what that is about,

1440
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 1: them BECAUSE i see more first down runs Of theirs

1441
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: get blown up THAN i can even. Imagine so there

1442
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 1: must be some design or issue something going on there

1443
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 1: because people are just running exactly Where saquon is. Going

1444
01:03:57,640 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: but we may see this again if it plays the

1445
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: form where The eagles are gonna have second and, ten

1446
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 1: second and, nine second and ten and let's see if

1447
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: they can get out of it.

1448
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 2: TOO i think that's a great, point AND i think

1449
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 2: that's really good, analysis AND i hope people don't care about.

1450
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 2: It but, like first down rushing efficiency is, huge right and, so.

1451
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: And especially for a team like, that where you have

1452
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 1: maybe the best running back in THE, nfl one of

1453
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 1: the best, lines it almost makes no sense that they

1454
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 1: have no success running the.

1455
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 2: Ball and so in this, game it was cool to

1456
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 2: See washington be a little bit better on first, down,

1457
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 2: right but it's, like to your, point can you then

1458
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 2: finish the? Sequence can you then, go, hey it's second and,

1459
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 2: ten let's get them to third and. Eight let's get

1460
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 2: off the field and get the ball back to our.

1461
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 2: Defense and, then to, me that's going to be the

1462
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 2: story hitting Into. PHILLY i don't care who plays is

1463
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:41,479
Speaker 2: can you get that level of execution and just play,

1464
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 2: good sound defensive.

1465
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: Football you can't stop them if they're in second at,

1466
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 1: four because they can do whatever they want on that,

1467
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 1: play and if they don't complete it or don't get,

1468
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 1: anything they can run the ball twice once with a

1469
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 1: tush push and they move the chains like that's been their.

1470
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 1: Magic that's not what's happening this. Year they've become everybody,

1471
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 1: else all, right last thing real, quick because we all

1472
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 1: hope this. Happens bobby wagnern five. Tackles if he gets

1473
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 1: five tackles against The eagles This, sunday he's going to

1474
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: join a club that only, You london And Ray lewis are,

1475
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: in which are players that have surpassed two thousand tackles

1476
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 1: in their. Career So i'm hoping we're going to see

1477
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 1: that obviously On. Sunday but what are your just your

1478
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 1: general thoughts of adding a third member to a very exclusive.

1479
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 3: Club, Man i'm so happy For.

1480
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 4: Bobby AS i mentioned you and you guys, KNOW i

1481
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 4: have a great relationship With, bobby and this was even

1482
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 4: before he joined The. Commanders this goes to dates back

1483
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 4: all the way to twenty, nineteen and just the reverence

1484
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 4: that he has for players who played the position prior

1485
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 4: to him and who you, know just his respect for,

1486
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 4: us and he's he's trained With, Ray he's reached out To,

1487
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 4: ray he's reached out to, me and just for us

1488
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 4: to be able to talk ball and talk training methods

1489
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 4: and all those. Things so WHEN i see him on

1490
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 4: the cusp of joining that, club that two thousand tackle,

1491
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 4: club and that's a rare that's rare air up, there,

1492
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 4: man it's you, know it's it's it's lonely up there

1493
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 4: with me and. Right, so but it's just it's a

1494
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 4: testament to him as a, professional him as his, longevity his.

1495
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 4: Productivity bobby is an extremely extremely good. Tackler you, KNOW

1496
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 4: i THINK i would Say bobby's a better tackler than,

1497
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 4: Me like he just from uh just wrap, tackles LIKE

1498
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 4: i missed more tackles to. HIM i just WAS i

1499
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 4: was around the ball a lot, more but just him

1500
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 4: as a, tackler he's.

1501
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 3: Outstanding just.

1502
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 4: Man just just looking forward to him being able to

1503
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 4: to join that. Club hope he's able to do it

1504
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 4: in the, uh you, know first, half first, quarter and

1505
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 4: and and we able to get the, win because that

1506
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 4: would make it even sweeter to be able to accomplish something.

1507
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 4: Win so, that's, uh that's What i'm looking you, know my,

1508
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 4: My I've i've always just marveled at At bobby and

1509
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 4: what he's able to. Do So i'm looking forward to

1510
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 4: to him joining that.

1511
01:06:58,000 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 3: Club.

1512
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: Yep that's something to watch. For and then obvious this,

1513
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 1: weekend we don't know how The eagles are going to play.

1514
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: This the two seed is actually on the line for,

1515
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 1: them which is why the kickoff with our game and

1516
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:09,439
Speaker 1: The bears game is going to be four twenty. Five

1517
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 1: the two seed ones is gonna, be two ones gonna

1518
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 1: be the Three eagles have to, Win bears have to.

1519
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 1: Lose so we're gonna see how they play. This do

1520
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 1: they want to arrest some of their? Guys do they

1521
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 1: want to go for that two?

1522
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 5: Seed not?

1523
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 1: Sure, see here's.

1524
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 4: Something That i've just Heard sirianni say the other, day

1525
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 4: and this even before they played the, bells and he

1526
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 4: mentioned the importance of getting a second getting that two.

1527
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 4: Seed he, said it's important to get that two seed

1528
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 4: because you, would, hey you're going to have the first

1529
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 4: round game at, home but also you would get a

1530
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 4: second home playoff, game so you, know.

1531
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: Plays and you're one loss from a one seed away

1532
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 1: from THE Nfc championship being there, again.

1533
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 4: Yeah you, have so you have the wildcard round at

1534
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 4: home as a two, seed but you would also have

1535
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 4: a divisional round at home In philly if theyre able

1536
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 4: to get to the number two. Seeds and then, obviously

1537
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 4: depending on what happens with the number one, seed you

1538
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 4: potentially could be hosting AN nfc championship. Game so you,

1539
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 4: know now it depends on what happens With. Chicago because

1540
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 4: Of chicago, wins they have to head to head Over.

1541
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 4: Philly both. Teams i'm imagining That philly's gonna gonna play

1542
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 4: their horses and how we play our horses, Too and

1543
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 4: you know how the game was gonna be interesting anyway

1544
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:29,600
Speaker 4: because of how things ended in that game with the

1545
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 4: two point. Conversion and we'll see you in two. Weeks

1546
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 4: as Uh as was eloquently mentioned by by some players

1547
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 4: and maybe some coaches of our. Team but you, know

1548
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 4: so they're gonna be there's gonna be high tension in

1549
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:44,719
Speaker 4: that fall that football, game and the lots is gonna

1550
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 4: be on the.

1551
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 1: Line will and we'll see you next week on our.

1552
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 1: Finale for the twenty twenty five season Of The Booth,

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01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:53,360
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