1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Lisa Lampinelli is not a licensed therapist or life coach. 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: She is a meddling advice giving yana and know it 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: all and her words come from her head, her heart, 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: and often out of her ass. This podcast should not 5 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: be misconstrued as therapy, should be taken with a huge 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: grain of salt for entertainment purposes only. 7 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: These You need help, You're the problems. Come on, come down, 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: go clab, take a pill. I think you're insane. Do 9 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: what I say? Dumb ass, listen to me. You a 10 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: bad disloyal listeners. Welcome back to Shrink This Ni Shrink 11 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: This with Lisa Lambinelli back for season two. Didn't you, 12 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: miss us? Didn't those three months. 13 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 3: Feel like in a dentity? Didn't it just feel like 14 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 3: what happened to my life? Tuesday comes around and there's 15 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 3: no lease. I have to listen to something else, something 16 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 3: that's better, more popular and well produced. Well, speaking of 17 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: well produced, guess whose producer came back with a vengeance? Yeah, sir, 18 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: Little miss Celia has survived and thrive and. 19 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 2: Lenarm she's wearing a bra Celia's back and Nick Scopoletti 20 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: by unpaid, untalented balld not as fat and girthy sidekick. 21 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: Look Aunck, I'm here, ladies, Nick, Where could they find 22 00:01:58,240 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: you on social You could. 23 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 4: Find me scopes on Instagram and TikTok and and. 24 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: Where can you find me? 25 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 4: You can find you on Instagram at Lisa Lampinelli. 26 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 2: And where can you find Celia and. 27 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 4: Zara shopping for new clothes? Yat high her high tits. 28 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: Now she's nailing light. So we took a little break, 29 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: and I'm telling you the half dozen emails of oh where. 30 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 5: Have you been? 31 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 2: There were a full six people who gave a shit? 32 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: Now I've named all those people in a previous podcast, 33 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: and they are actually just my friends. No one else cared. 34 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 2: But we came back anyway because we're contractually obligated to. 35 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: I am yes, So I have to ask you. Let's 36 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: find out an update of everyone's life that's happened in 37 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: three months. I will say nothing has changed for me, 38 00:02:54,240 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: same blue hair, same Juno's I'm back. I'm yelling the 39 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: word just kidding, and by that I mean nutrition because 40 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: when I look at the two of you, I'm like, 41 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: you two have been killing it physically. Nick, what's changed 42 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 2: for you? You're looking good and well? Hung dog? No 43 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: don't do not hit him up. Let him learn the 44 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: lesson that when he talks like that, he gets no reward. 45 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 2: Who is not a good boy? Right there, me and Celia? 46 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: We have Celia speaking of good girls. Yes, Celia is back. 47 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: Now did you fight to produce someone else instead? Did 48 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: you say like they I have three months off from them. 49 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: I'm so glad they're gone? No? Really, Yeah, I'm kind 50 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: of trying to essess if I believe you. 51 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm telling the truth. 52 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: Do you enjoy your time even after? For those of 53 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: you don't remember the last episode that we taped back, oh, 54 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: when the hell was at September, we kind of tried 55 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: to fix Celia, grilled are a little, gave her a 56 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: hard time, but from what I think, sounded like sound advice. 57 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: So you didn't take that badly and you actually decided 58 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: to reconnect with us? 59 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 5: Now, yeah I did. I had a good time last season, 60 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 5: so I'm back. 61 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 2: Oh? Was it is that? 62 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 5: Like? 63 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: Are you squinting? Is that your tell for I really 64 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 2: hate it and I'm lying. I really love you, daddy 65 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 2: kind of thing, even though I'm mad at you. Yeah, 66 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 2: that's right, all right, So let's update what happened in 67 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: your life since our break. Because for those of you 68 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: who might not remember, a quick recap Celia came to us, 69 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,679 Speaker 2: We're going to do a full episode called Fixing Celia. 70 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 2: We'd fix all her issues. She had one fight that week, 71 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: that's all we got to because she had a messy bit. 72 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 2: She was raised in a divorce household by wild immigrant Italians. 73 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 2: One's a drug addict. We're not sure which one. I'm 74 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 2: sure she's lying and we're like, oh, but what's really 75 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 2: annoying her is her friend? Okay, yeah, that's that must 76 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: be it. So did you. The friend was mad at 77 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: you because you had been diagnosed to hypochondriac, which I 78 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: fully was truthful about that. I would not be friends 79 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 2: with the person like that because it would annoy me. 80 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: I'd put them in the back seat. Your friend was 81 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 2: triggered by this, was annoyed with you, and it told 82 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: you a laundry list of things wrong, and you took 83 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 2: this very personally. You were angry, and I advised you 84 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: to calm the fuck down, assess what you love about her, 85 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: make some lists of things you adore and are grateful 86 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: that she has brought into your life, and maybe have 87 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 2: a constructive non violent talk. Did you do any of 88 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 2: these things? 89 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 5: I did? 90 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 2: Wait? What I really did all of them? No? 91 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 5: Okay, I didn't make the list, but I did everything else. 92 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 2: Okay, Which was what happened? What transpired? Well, I'll tell you. 93 00:05:59,040 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: So we did. 94 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 5: We did our episode, and that night Dua Lipa was 95 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 5: playing at Madison Square Garden. So I went, and I 96 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 5: don't know what it was about, Like, I don't know. 97 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 5: I think it was the combination of just kind of 98 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 5: being told how it is with humor, as well as 99 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 5: the fact that I had gone to therapy four out 100 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 5: of five of the weekdays that wow you, and like 101 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 5: concerts are really therapeutic for me. I just think like 102 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 5: all of that combined. I was in the cab on 103 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 5: the way home from the Dualipa concert, and I was like, 104 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 5: you know what, I was wrong? Like I was wrong 105 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 5: and I needed to like like, oh my god, I 106 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 5: cannot believe I acted like that in general, like in 107 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 5: like the grand scheme of things, what I was being 108 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 5: confronted about. She was like right in some sense, maybe 109 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 5: not all of the way, and the communication maybe it 110 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 5: wasn't great, but like she had a point. So in 111 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 5: the from the Dulepa concert, I was listening like cathartic music, 112 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 5: looking out the window, and then I wrote like long text, 113 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 5: just kind of putting it all out there, like reflecting 114 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 5: and falling on my sword. And then I had therapy 115 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 5: again the next day, so I read it through with 116 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 5: her and was just like, what do you think? And 117 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 5: she was like, this is like what I've been trying 118 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 5: to tell you for all four of these days. 119 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: This isn't been funny. How it took a therapist five 120 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: days and it took me an hour. I have to say, 121 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: just to interject a commercial for myself, Lisa Lampinelli is 122 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: a terrific non certified therapist. I think you all cancel 123 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: all your appointments, go off your medication, take Thailand all 124 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: and become autistic and just listen to me. But no, 125 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: I pride myself on giving you a few hints for sure. 126 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: But also obviously I'm joking about the therapy that is 127 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: really transformative. 128 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it was like kind of the combination 129 00:07:55,400 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 5: I needed, like some tough, funny love and then also 130 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 5: like kind of gentle parenting almost. 131 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I kind. 132 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 5: Of got the best of both, and then I figured 133 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 5: it out, and so I sent the text and it 134 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 5: ended up fine. Now we're like chilling. 135 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: Oh my god. So you when she got the text 136 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: where you were like, you know, what did you say? Like, 137 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 2: I'm I can read it. If it's that long, I'll. 138 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 5: Read like the first couple of sentences. 139 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: Okay, see, here we go, just to scroll through everybody 140 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 2: who's yelled at her today and made her change studios. 141 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 2: By the way, speaking of which you leave three months. Look, 142 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: they put you in the downgraded loser studio. Gotta say 143 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 2: these ihearts. You know, that whole thing where you're like, 144 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: oh my god, make them miss you doesn't work because 145 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: they did not miss us, and they said go in 146 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 2: the little room. Everyone puts baby in a corner. 147 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 5: That's right. 148 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: So what I'm saying, okay, so do you find it? 149 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just gonna read the last sentence because it 150 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 5: summarizes it. Oh good, Thank you all for bearing with me. 151 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 5: And again I apologize for the discomfort, stress and fear 152 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 5: that I might have caused. All I can do is 153 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 5: try my best and put my best foot forward, and 154 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 5: that's my plan. I'm always here for y'all no matter what. 155 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 5: And I hope this doesn't drive a wedge between me 156 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 5: and the two of y'all. 157 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: Wow. Other than those y'alls, which I want to punch 158 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 2: you vigorously in the face twelve times, you can. We 159 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 2: are going to. 160 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 4: Next speaking of have you gotten any diction in these 161 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 4: last months? 162 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 5: And I will never change it? 163 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 2: Okay, that's not diction. That's my language jargon. There you go. 164 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 2: Diction is how you speak, Yeah, it is. That's how 165 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? You know what I mean? 166 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: Look up diction, look up, send your ass up and look. 167 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 2: Diction means how you actually say physically a word, how 168 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 2: it comes out of your mouth. Y'all is jargon, and 169 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: I think, honestly, i'd love to analy sometime in the future, 170 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: maybe the season two cliffhanger of you being so attached 171 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: to the or little like that, like, oh, I you know, 172 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 2: that's my addiction, that's my thing I have to I 173 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: my identity as a Southerner. I'm clinging to it. That 174 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: So we'll just do that at some other point. 175 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 5: I don't feel that way. 176 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but didn't I make you realize? Shit, you 177 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 2: didn't realize last week. So maybe just say thank you, 178 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 2: look at me and say I would be happy to 179 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 2: have this help crawfish. Yeah, yell, I only know that 180 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: because I have an ex friend who is rich. Nobody 181 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 2: has more ex friends than the sixty four year old 182 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 2: coun there's your little thing for the beginning of the show. 183 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 2: She would turn on that fucking accent when she thought 184 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 2: she needed it. When they want to flirt, when they 185 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: want to be more like, Oh, I'm so yell night 186 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 2: y'all like you night God, and I go. Stop with 187 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 2: the fucking Alabama ship. No one's buying it, bitch's but anyway, 188 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 2: So what does diction mean? 189 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 5: Next? 190 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 4: Addiction is the choice, just like being gay. It's a 191 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 4: choice choice and use of words and phrases in speech 192 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 4: or writing. 193 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that's a good definition. 194 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 4: Number two says the style of annunciation in speaking. 195 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about. It's arenation. Oh right, you 196 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 2: can tell we haven't been behind them in three months. 197 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 2: We're so fucking stupid and getting I know nothing's changed 198 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 2: with him, but Celia, I think there's this is a 199 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 2: Are you happy now with how your relationship with your 200 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: friends have washed out? 201 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 5: Yes? I think I'm still getting used to. 202 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 2: Changing what needs to or needed to change. 203 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 5: Like like what we talked about like who I talked 204 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 5: to about certain things. 205 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: Right, it's just discerning and judge. It's like who I 206 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 2: picked to do certain things with. You know. 207 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess it's just harder because like it's my 208 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 5: place of home. Like it's my home. 209 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: But even if you would grow up, say if you 210 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 2: had three brothers and sisters and two parents, right, you 211 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 2: might be like, oh, that's the sister that I go 212 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 2: to for that. Yeah, totally, that's the mom. Mom doesn't 213 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 2: like that subject. Maybe dad does. 214 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 5: But I guess, I mean, there's like nobody in my 215 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 5: home who can fit the like what what it? What 216 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 5: it was? I don't know what I'm trying to say. 217 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: So you have to farm out, yeah, something like. 218 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 5: In my in my home, I like I have to 219 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 5: kind of censor some of the things there. 220 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 2: Sometimes you people need to censor yourself. Yeah, I agree. 221 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: You know it's a little mind women. Yeah, but I 222 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 2: also think with you and all of us, the I 223 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 2: think the most the best question that got the best 224 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 2: results last week from you last week when we taped 225 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 2: it ages ago, I've had to listen to it again 226 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: so I remember what she was yapping. The thing that 227 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: came got the best results was asking you if you 228 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 2: had a friend with this problem, what would you say 229 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 2: to them? Yeah, because you had that knowledge in you. 230 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 2: So a lot of that is doing that daily. Say, 231 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 2: your home, you feel like unhinged about some problem and 232 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 2: you can't go to them. Okay, so what would my 233 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: best self tell me? What would I say to somebody 234 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: I was coaching through this, You'd be like, you can 235 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: journal about this. You can just talk yourself down off 236 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 2: the ledge. A lot of this self soothing can happen, 237 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 2: so you won't not that you're a burden to everyone, 238 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 2: but if there's someone around who you feel you are 239 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 2: a burden too, you can work on it yourself. 240 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 5: Yeah you know, Yeah, that's what I think I've I'm 241 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 5: learning still, Like it's a process. 242 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 2: If you're working at this young age on self soothing 243 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: and nervous system regulation, which is really important, dude, think 244 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 2: about like, you won't be some unhinged crazy person in 245 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 2: their thirties who's like hitting their kid or yelling at 246 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 2: them or yelling at the husband. Like it's just all 247 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: saved so much trouble if you can actually take a 248 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 2: second and do it yourself. 249 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 5: I agree and I disagree. 250 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, because self work doesn't work. 251 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 5: No, because I think, like I said in the last episode, 252 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 5: I've been in therapy for so long that in different therapists, like, 253 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 5: it's not like the same person. I've tried different things, 254 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 5: different methods like eye movement, therapy, everything, right, Yet I still, 255 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 5: like you would think, I have like a novel of 256 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 5: knowledge in self soothing and therapy and all of that. 257 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 5: But yet I still can't seem to really enact the 258 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 5: things that I've learned over twelve years. 259 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: I mean not yet. Yeah, but it's called a practice 260 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: for a reason. I was talking to somebody who was 261 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: coaching the other day about having a gratitude practice, and 262 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 2: we do. I have to do it every day. Well, 263 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: it's called practice. If you want to get good at 264 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: gratitude or anything else, you've got to go to the 265 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 2: gym of this thing and make it happen. So you 266 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 2: can't be there yet, you just have to daily when 267 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 2: the things come up, just question it. And if you 268 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: end up but just venting to the wrong person, Okay, 269 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: I'm in a mistake. It's fine, you know, I'll live. 270 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: They know I'm doing my best. I'm trying, but yeah, 271 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 2: you're you'll just noticing it makes you make the progress. 272 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. 273 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all you can do. 274 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 5: Man. 275 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 4: It's just I get the same way. I know exactly 276 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 4: what you're saying. There's times where I've gone to therapy 277 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 4: and I'm like, I'm in there and I'm like, I'm 278 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 4: thirty seven years old, Like why don't I know this already? 279 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 4: And it's like, well, I didn't do any of this 280 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 4: shit for yeah, and now I'm just starting to fucking 281 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 4: do it, like for the last three four years. But 282 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 4: there's moments where I look at it and I'm like, like, 283 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 4: you almost feel I know for me, and Lisa always 284 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 4: tells me not to be but like I'm like, inis 285 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 4: that I have to like reach out to friends. 286 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 2: Or reach out to it. 287 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 5: There No, totally I. 288 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 4: Get what you're saying. But like you just like you said, 289 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 4: it's a practice, dude, you just have to keep going 290 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 4: because there's people who don't do it and you can 291 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 4: tell and the people usually you don't want to be around. Yeah, 292 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 4: and I've said this before at least, like there's moments 293 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 4: where I'm like where you're working on your shit and 294 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 4: it's so hard, and but you're like, but those people 295 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 4: just ignorance is bliss over there and you're like. 296 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not right because they aren't people who 297 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 2: are operating from their highest good and you don't want 298 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: to be around that, you know, So you're doing all 299 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: the right stuff. You guys are very hard on yourselves 300 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: because look, I'm sixty four and I'm still like going 301 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 2: to the drink once a week. You know, you won't 302 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 2: need to keep having emergency sessions five times a week. 303 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: You know, you'll probably even if it went down to 304 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: four or three or some weeks it's five. Who cares. 305 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 2: But it's staying in the game and just doing it, 306 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 2: but also learning, maybe refresh ask the shrink for some 307 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 2: a refresher course on self soothing or on emotional regulation, 308 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: because you may be ready to hear it now and 309 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 2: practice it now, whereas if you heard about it two 310 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 2: years ago, maybe it didn't land. 311 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I got a new like specialist for my hypochondria. 312 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 2: That's great. 313 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 5: So that way, I think I'll learn a lot of 314 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 5: new things. 315 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. So you, I mean, it's all going well. It 316 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 2: seems like to me. We'll keep it up. Well, We'll 317 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 2: keep checking on you and making sure you're not unhinged. 318 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 2: One thing we did bring you before we go on 319 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 2: a break is we were a little sick of you 320 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: and your baggy fucking clothes and your bralis bullshit. We 321 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 2: look at I have brought you. 322 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 4: Hold on, wait, no relax, told you it is a 323 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 4: good surprise, you psycho. 324 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: Drifting is my life. I have brought you. I thrifted 325 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 2: my favorite chop, which was my garage. All my clothes 326 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 2: were that. I was like, well, these will come in 327 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 2: handy for some gay pride things someday. Instead, I brought 328 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: them to you, and I brought you bra. I brought 329 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 2: Celia an enormous sports bra color too. Girls today you 330 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 2: don't want to wear a bra, well, then just pretend 331 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 2: you're doing a sport and you a wear a sports 332 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: bro And here's a real bra never worn right there 333 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 2: those titties, so you are gifted's clothes. There's these lovely 334 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: that's J Crew. There's Adida sweats, there's Zara, two pairs 335 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 2: of Zara jeans. I and there's actually really good pair 336 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 2: of n why d J jeans. This is my way 337 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 2: of saying to you, you floppy titted cun I don't 338 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 2: care if you wear them. I don't care if you 339 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 2: throw them in the don't throw them in the garbage. 340 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 2: You would give them to goodwill or to somebody who 341 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 2: needs them. And these are all maybe worn once. So 342 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 2: what I have to say is is a way of 343 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 2: you saying, oh, let me see what clothes that fit 344 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 2: look like. Let me just not get rid of them. 345 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 2: It's fine. Let me see if I feel even infinitesmally 346 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 2: a little better with clothes that fit and show who 347 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: I am. And like I said, you don't have to 348 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 2: get rid of them, I don't care, but figure out 349 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 2: that you are allowed to look good. Does that How 350 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 2: does that land for you? Or do you feel this 351 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,959 Speaker 2: has been such a traumatic thing for you to look 352 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 2: at two of my old bras. 353 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 5: No, I think that's very kind. 354 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 2: Really, Oh, I do of people who can receive again, 355 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Because some I mean some 356 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 2: people can't. It's very They're like, so you don't feel 357 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 2: as a gen zer? Oh how dare you control my body? 358 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 5: No? 359 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 2: I almost didn't bring them there. I sort of God, 360 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 2: they were in my garage enough trauma. Yeah, but you 361 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 2: know what like sometimes when you say that somebody wearing bra, 362 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 2: they go, I will not inherit your generation's shame over. 363 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 5: Well, they're overthinking. 364 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 2: They are okay, good, good, all right? 365 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 4: Those are yours? 366 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 2: Well I didn't wear them, but yes you can. Yeah. 367 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 2: It's like that. I push him down. I push him down, 368 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 2: I push him down. I don't enjoy. We focused a 369 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 2: lot on Celia. We haven't focused on Nick, but he 370 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 2: hasn't really earned it. 371 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 4: I think we should focus on meymore. 372 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 2: Honest, Mike off, please for Nick. Something else, as I said, 373 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 2: had come up during the discussion with Celia last episode, 374 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 2: where during a segment on her being worried, I got 375 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 2: a text randomly from my funeral director because you know, 376 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 2: I pay an advance to not trouble anyone girl, because 377 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 2: I was worried that my headstone would not be installed 378 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,239 Speaker 2: in time if I would meet an untimely demise. So 379 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: as we're talking to Celia about worry, I get the 380 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 2: text saying, congratulations, the headstone'es in. You have nothing to 381 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 2: worry about anymore. I go, isn't this ironic that I 382 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 2: wasted ten months of every once in a while coming 383 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 2: up going oh man, I'm so WORRIEDS not gonna happen. 384 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 2: Suppose I Diana car wreck. I mean, it'd be terrible 385 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 2: somebody else would have to follow. I'm like, look at that. 386 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 2: I worried for nothing. Well, I this is what happened yesterday. 387 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 2: I finally get the nerve up. It takes me months. Now, 388 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 2: I'm a big cemetery gal. I enjoy putting a flower 389 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 2: on there. Whatever. I work up the nerve to go 390 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 2: look at the headstone. It's not gonna have my name 391 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 2: on it. Duh, that'd be really fucking weird if it did. Already, 392 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 2: there's something that happened. I guess I didn't measure it. 393 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 2: It is literally two times the size of everyone's headstone 394 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: in the entire cemetery. I drive up and okay, what 395 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 2: do you have to know is I helped my mom 396 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: pick out my dad's in hers. She I thought it 397 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 2: was I mean, it's gorgeous. It really is, probably the 398 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 2: nice one I've ever seen. It's black, it's shiny, it 399 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: has an etching of up when my dad's paintings on it, 400 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 2: a lighthouse, and oh it's beautiful stars, moons and really 401 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 2: beautiful palm on the bottom. And it's not gaudy. It's 402 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 2: very sort of New England, right, because he loved Cape Cod. 403 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 2: That tombstone at the time costs fifteen thousand dollars, but 404 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 2: it's for my dad and mom. Who cares. My mother 405 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 2: was like, I don't care. So this tombstone I saw 406 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 2: when we were picking that out. It had a star 407 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 2: inlay and a moon inlay, and I go, isn't that sweet? 408 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 2: It kind of matches theirs. It's like, oh, the child 409 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 2: of these people, well, yesterday I drive it is literally 410 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 2: double the size of my parents. So they have this 411 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 2: little dwarfed. 412 00:23:52,920 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 6: Little probably no it is, but taller taller too, So 413 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 6: my parents, my parents is the most appropriate science. 414 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 2: It would have never dawned on me that it would 415 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 2: be big like it was like, oh, because it was 416 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 2: already existed, so I wouldn't have measured. I just loved it, 417 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 2: and my mother actually liked it. When she's like, she goes, oh, 418 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 2: that's so sweet. So I'm assuming it's gonna look right. 419 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 2: They put it in and I look at this thing 420 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 2: and I am so embarrassed, and I have tons of shame. 421 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 2: Starts to come in and I'm like, oh my god, 422 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 2: and keep taking pictures of it from different angles. The 423 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 2: ironic part, by the way, is that it was already made, 424 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 2: so he gave it to me at a discount, so 425 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 2: it only costs ten thousand. So I literally think to myself, logically, okay, 426 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 2: it only costs two thirds of what my parents did. 427 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: But it looks like I think I'm a big shot. 428 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,719 Speaker 2: And I started having shame. I actually started crying. I'm like, 429 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 2: this probably the first time I mentioned it, so I 430 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 2: might get tearful. Oh my god, everyone's gonna think I'm bragging. 431 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 2: Everyone's gonna think I think, who the fuck I am. 432 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 2: Everyone's gonna think, oh, she has money, she had to 433 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 2: be better than her parents. And I said, I literally 434 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 2: just sat there and I said, what would I say 435 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 2: to Celia? And I did? I go, if you were 436 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 2: coaching someone with this problem, what would you say? And 437 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 2: I instantly knew Nick knows this because he's seen a 438 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 2: show that I wrote about this. There was no one 439 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: on the fucking earth who was more stoked than I 440 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: did well except my mother. My mother was like, when 441 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 2: we went to see a house once that I lived in, 442 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 2: she grabs the waiter's hands, she said, look at this, 443 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 2: look at this place. And then my daughter did this, 444 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 2: and she did it all herself. Nobody helped her. She's 445 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: self made. So I was like wait a minute, that's 446 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: what she'd say about this. First of all, she had 447 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 2: already loved how it looked. Second, she would be like, 448 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 2: so what, you're the big shot. Oh, you're good fucking good. 449 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 2: And my dad would be just from an artistic standpoint, 450 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 2: would have loved it because it's just so pretty. And 451 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 2: I even thought, then what would I say to someone 452 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 2: who was a coaching So I would tell them to 453 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 2: remember that, and then I would also remember I can 454 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 2: have written on that stone anything I want. Sure. Originally 455 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 2: I wanted to put big dick energy on it, but 456 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 2: already this stone literally has big dick energy. It does 457 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 2: be overkilled. I just might put it on the back, 458 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 2: on the front, I honestly said to myself, I want 459 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 2: to have carved on it. The real stars are over 460 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 2: there and point because they're to my right, or they're 461 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 2: the real stars, and I I'm the only one who 462 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 2: needs to know what that means. And p s. Of 463 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 2: course I worry. Will my cousins come and judge me? 464 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: Will you know, answer her uncle's grandparent whatever, whoever ever exists, 465 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,239 Speaker 2: nieces and nephorts will be like boring. She thought she 466 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 2: was better than her parents. I can't control what they think. 467 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 2: They probably wouldn't anyway, but just me coaching myself. And 468 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 2: again that's the self soothing through like cause at first, 469 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 2: I swear to God, I was like, I have to 470 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 2: call Amy. I have to call her. No, she's at work, 471 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 2: but this is an emergency. I'm about to cry. I 472 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 2: let myself cry. And by the way, crying, as you know, 473 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 2: doesn't kill you. It lasted literally thirty seconds, and I 474 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 2: was like, oh, then my head cleared up a little, 475 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: the headache cleared up, and then I was like, coached 476 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 2: myself through it. So that's what I'm talking about with 477 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 2: the self soothing. I said, Oh, this is really great, 478 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 2: And then I wouldn't this be a great topic for 479 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 2: a podcast because how many kids out there have done 480 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 2: better than their parents and have guilt over it. How 481 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 2: many of them have parents who make them feel guilty 482 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 2: or they haven't lived up to what their parents wanted. 483 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: I was like, I think we got to do a 484 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 2: podcast on those parental expectations and how we feel when 485 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 2: we underdo, don't measure up or surpass them. And is 486 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: that okay? Does this make sense to you? Nick? 487 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? 488 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 5: It? 489 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 4: I love I love that you are you really going 490 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 4: to engrave that the stars are over there. 491 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 2: Yoh yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, because I truly feel that way, 492 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 2: like there's no me without them. 493 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 4: True, you know, I think I think for that while 494 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 4: you were talking, I just kept thinking about like one 495 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 4: of my friends whenever I'm going through stuff. And this 496 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 4: kind of goes back to what we said earlier. We 497 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 4: were talking to Celia about how like I feel shame 498 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 4: about reaching out to friends about things or if something 499 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 4: doesn't go I just like I feel like I'm bothering people, 500 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 4: which like we all get that right, but knowing and 501 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 4: one of my friends, when I'm close to who I 502 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 4: went to, he told me he's like, dude, like if 503 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 4: you spend your time worrying about what other people think, 504 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,719 Speaker 4: He's like, that's gonna He's like, you're not gonna get 505 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 4: shit done. You're just gonna be walking around looking for 506 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 4: approval and all this stuff. So I totally get that. 507 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 4: I the more the older I've gotten, the more the 508 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 4: work I've done, Like I would say, even from like 509 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 4: two years ago or a year ago, I really cared 510 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 4: about what people think, and slowly it's like just really 511 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 4: falling away. And that just comes from doing work on shit. 512 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 2: I know it's all us going what they that oh cliche, 513 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: what they think about me is none of my business. 514 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 2: It's hard to enact that, you know. But I mean 515 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 2: also like there's, first of all, even twenty four hours later, 516 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: this is literally less than twenty four hours later. I'm like, oh, 517 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 2: I don't have to really like vent to this to 518 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 2: a friend. It's fine. I probably will mention it to 519 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 2: the shrink if I remember, but it felt traumatic in 520 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 2: the moment. But then I'm like, make some good out 521 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 2: of it. Do the podcast about it, you can kind of. 522 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 2: I even think it's kind of funny. Now I didn't 523 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 2: fucking measure it. I literally made a mistake. I don't 524 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 2: I don't know. Honestly, you'll probably not think it's ridiculous, 525 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 2: but it's just because it has nothing written on it 526 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 2: yet or anything. It looks like this big bohemia thing. 527 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 2: But I'm like, you know what, and the fact that 528 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 2: really is saving me a lot of trouble is that 529 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: it costs two thirds. So it wasn't me big shotting it. 530 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 2: I took a second hand gravestone, probably intended for somebody 531 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 2: who never picked it up, and I just didn't want 532 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 2: mine to be forgotten out this whole then this whole 533 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 2: thing about feeling your did better than your parents or 534 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 2: you achieved more. The first time it really hit me 535 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 2: was I was doing a show at Foxwood's and they 536 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: gave me a really nice hotel suite, like a banger 537 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 2: sweet and I walk around and I'm like, well, I 538 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 2: should this is great, and I started taking pictures and 539 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 2: then I'm like, oh, why does this feel weird? I 540 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 2: don't know, And so I was like, oh, cause you know, 541 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 2: Mom and Dad would never have treated themselves to that. 542 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 2: So it's me feeling the survivor's guilt of them growing 543 00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 2: up in the depression not treating themselves, but then going wait, wait, 544 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 2: like this is part of the deal. I get to 545 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 2: have this suite because I earned it. They wouldn't default 546 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 2: me for it. They'd get a kick out of the pictures. 547 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: But there is a guilt that comes with doing better. 548 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 2: And then the way I assuage the guilt a lot 549 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 2: of the time was just to feel it and then 550 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 2: be generous to them. Like I remember with the Grammys 551 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,719 Speaker 2: the first time I was nominated, Oh my god, I 552 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 2: flew everyone out to La everyone stayed at the Ritz Carlton. 553 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 2: It was like where you know, oh, they could pay 554 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 2: for nothing, so you should do that. That's how you 555 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 2: take care of your parents or whatever. So Nick, do 556 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 2: you ever have anything about like, holy shit, I gotta 557 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 2: I mean, you don't have that much to live up 558 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 2: to when it comes to your parents. If you live 559 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 2: past You've already lived past your mother's expiration day. So 560 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 2: the bar for you is what with your dad? 561 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean mom died at thirty two and I'm thirty seven, 562 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 4: so we beat that, you win. Dad's gone bankrupt twice. 563 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 4: He lives like an in law apartment of this person's house, 564 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 4: and like he's seventy five, and he works at he's 565 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 4: a janitor in the mornings at a senior center and 566 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,239 Speaker 4: works at a fast food place at night. So like 567 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 4: the bar's pretty low for like, for my accomplishments. But 568 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 4: there's little things like like my apartment I live in now, 569 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 4: I absolutely love, like it's a whole. It just like 570 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 4: makes there's times I stand in that apartment I'm like, 571 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 4: I can't believe I live here, Like yeah, I really, 572 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 4: And it's like I don't have any really have nothing 573 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 4: to compare it to everyone around me. Every adult has 574 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 4: blown everything. So the fact that like I even have 575 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 4: a four to oh one k or anything, I'm like. 576 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 2: Oh, so you didn't have high things to live up to. 577 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 2: But do you have any guilt or shame about Oh 578 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 2: is this making my dad feel bad? Or should I 579 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 2: just stay at because some people will keep themselves small 580 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 2: in order to fit in with the family system of 581 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 2: like I'm not rocking the boat. I'm gonna live like 582 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 2: a monk. It's okay if I don't spend anything. 583 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 4: The only thing I'm afraid of and I do have 584 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 4: these tendencies. I don't have any of that. And my 585 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 4: dad's not like that at all. My dad, because he's 586 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 4: lost so much. He he's like he comes to my apartment, 587 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 4: he's like this is great. Like he's like he has 588 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 4: no anything like that. And I don't have any guilt 589 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 4: at all. I think the if anything, the thing I 590 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 4: do fight is that I do have the tendency to 591 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 4: say like fuck it and spend more money than I should. 592 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 4: And my only fear, like my biggest fear in my twenties, 593 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 4: not as much now, but was like I don't want 594 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 4: to end up like my dad. Right that's when I 595 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 4: was living with him, I was like this sucks, and 596 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 4: like I couldn't afford to get out at the time, 597 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 4: and he had no money, and I was like, where 598 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 4: the fuck does this go? Like how does this end? 599 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? How does this generational thing? 600 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 4: Ever, so now there's like enough of a gap where 601 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, I have school debt and some credit 602 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 4: card shit and whatever, and I pay for a car 603 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 4: and whatever. But like the fact that I could even 604 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 4: afford things and still be able to live a life 605 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 4: is like huge to me. I could be better, sure, 606 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 4: but there's for me, it's like I get scared of that, 607 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 4: Like I don't want to turn into that. 608 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 2: Well, so basically what is great about this is you 609 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 2: have a very uncomplicated relationship with this. It's just it's 610 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 2: like it doesn't matter if I do better or worse 611 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 2: than him. It's not all muddied up by some weird 612 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 2: guilt that you didn't earn. Because part of me was 613 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 2: always wouldn't I have been a better person if I 614 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,479 Speaker 2: could always live small, because then I'd be just like them? 615 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 2: And then because of my fucking Enneagram type eight personality, 616 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 2: which will do Anyagram pretty soon on this podcast, personality 617 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 2: disorder because of that like boss energy I have. I 618 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 2: couldn't have lived at that level. That's that wasn't my 619 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 2: level to have. And my mother knew it. She was 620 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 2: not like suggesting, we'll stay small and just go to 621 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 2: you know, secretary's school, like just be you know, a 622 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 2: different job. My mother would not have wanted me to 623 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 2: live in a small house. She never said live in 624 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 2: a big house. But she was thrilled to death and 625 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 2: got a kick out of it. So I think, like 626 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 2: with this headstone, it brought up like, oh, I'm they're 627 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 2: still getting a kick out of it. They're still going 628 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 2: this is pretty cool. I remember when I played Radio 629 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 2: City and my mom I called her out in the 630 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 2: audience and I was like, look at this cunt when 631 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 2: you're gonna die already. So I get the house. I 632 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 2: always wanted the house. It's small, it's sweet. And she 633 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 2: stood up and she turns around to the whole crowd 634 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 2: and she's looking and waving. She loved being part of 635 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 2: the bigness. So the bigness of this headstone is just 636 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 2: another thing that I think she's part of. But I 637 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 2: had to work through that. 638 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say that reminds me my dad. The 639 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 4: only thing he ever liked when I started comedy, right 640 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 4: because obviously not a lot of people make it. And 641 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 4: when I started comedy, he would sit down and he 642 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 4: goes like, are you making money from this thing? 643 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 5: Or what is this? 644 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be like. 645 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 4: No, not yet, and now I do, but like obviously 646 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 4: not enough to live on. And you know, he would say. 647 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 4: He would just be like, because you know, just like 648 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 4: have fun with it. You don't have to become this 649 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 4: big person and blah blah blah. And old me would 650 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 4: have taken it as like, what the fuck my dad 651 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 4: doesn't believe in me? Right, But like when your dad's 652 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 4: in his fast food uniform with the advisor and I'm like, 653 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 4: I'm making a joke, but I'm not, And he has 654 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 4: the headset on for the drive through and he's seventy five, 655 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 4: and he's like he just he wants me to be careful. 656 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 4: He doesn't want me to turn into that. It's not 657 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 4: coming from a place of like I don't think you're 658 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 4: good or you shouldn't do this. It's not. He's just like, 659 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 4: just you know, you got a good job. 660 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 2: You got a good job, don't don't. 661 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 4: But and I was like, nothing's happened like we're not 662 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 4: leaving words, but. 663 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 2: I think too, like a lot of it's them stuff 664 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 2: they would warn themselves about, Like he would be like 665 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 2: a drum he's a drummer. So yeah, and also he 666 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 2: actually had some wisdom in knowing you can have fulfillment 667 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 2: from a small comedy life or a small musical life 668 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 2: like he did. It really isn't that much better when 669 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 2: you're at the top. So what's cool is that's actually 670 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 2: a pretty sound message. 671 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 6: Yeah. 672 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 4: No, he's the older I get, the more I'm like, oh, 673 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 4: he actually makes more sense. And like my dad probably 674 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 4: had similar to you. Obviously have success like you. But 675 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 4: his parents were straight out of the depression and they 676 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 4: were real tight on money and wouldn't buy him certain 677 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 4: clothes and he said fuck it, and he got like 678 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 4: two jobs and he was big on clothes and the 679 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 4: look and this band and blah blah blah. But that 680 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 4: stuck with him through life, and he overspent a certain 681 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 4: lifestyle because he hated how he grew up. Yep, Like 682 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 4: he hated that his mother and his father were so 683 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 4: tight and cheap, and he was like, I'm not going 684 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 4: to fucking be that, and he paid the price for it, 685 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 4: and he didn't have any control over anything, but I could. 686 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 4: It was like a rebellion. 687 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 2: Right. 688 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 4: The more I realized it, I'm like, oh, he just 689 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 4: wanted to not be like them, but he could have 690 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 4: at least like maybe had a safety that well. 691 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 2: What it is basically is looking at the qualities that 692 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 2: they had that are worth pulling forward and leaving the 693 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 2: rest behind, you know. So with my mother, it's just like, 694 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 2: I like that badass personality and the fact that she 695 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 2: was a good saver, and but she would have never 696 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 2: been like he do you think you are? You too 697 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 2: big for your bridges? She wanted us to be too 698 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 2: big for our britches. She wanted us to accomplish stuff 699 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 2: without saying it. We could just get that vibe. So 700 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't be ashamed of the tombstone and 701 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 2: the fact that it is monstrously big, and also like, 702 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 2: I am a celebrity, as you know, but I'm gonna 703 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 2: get it engraved with my real last name on it, 704 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 2: so it's the real person's there, you know what I mean? 705 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 2: Maybe I should also be a the best, but other 706 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 2: than that, the real stars are on the right. If 707 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 2: you have a question for us, because season two is 708 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 2: gonna fit in to be a banger. As they say, y'all, 709 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 2: season to you back to buy a buy Aye y'all, 710 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 2: Why keep the mic on if you say nothing interesting? 711 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 2: Go ahead, hurry up. I read. 712 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 5: And the only response I got. 713 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:13,359 Speaker 2: You were correct? Okay, Nick, No, you're right, we were wrong. Okay, 714 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 2: go ahead. 715 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 5: No. 716 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 2: I think your words were fantastic. And I think that 717 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,479 Speaker 2: is a very astute and knowledgeable thing and a nice 718 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 2: chance you took just now correcting us and bringing to 719 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 2: attention what you need. I think that is terrific. I 720 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 2: think it shows a lot of growth and balls and guts, 721 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 2: and I say to you, thank you for trusting us 722 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 2: with that. Now. The text was great. I would love 723 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 2: to see the whole thing if you would at some point. 724 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 2: But I'm very proud of you. But don't say y'all anymore. 725 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 2: I'm not no Mike off. Pretend you're myself, because I 726 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 2: will not hear y'all out of your fucking mouth Everget no, 727 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 2: stop it, you have control. Stop with the I can't 728 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 2: help it. We had my conversation and broke me. We 729 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 2: had a y'all conversation and broke me. It's not gonna 730 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 2: break you to stop saying y'all shut the fuck up 731 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 2: neck first letter, honestly good jobs and no, no, no, 732 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 2: no exaggeration. I'm very proud of you, Okay, Nick. The 733 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,919 Speaker 2: person I'm less proud of is you, So please give 734 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 2: us a letter. 735 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 4: Dear Lisa, shut up, Celia, don't jump on the band. 736 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 4: Kill you, all right, Dear Lisa. My father and my 737 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 4: grandfather were both lawyers who went to Yale. My older 738 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 4: brother followed in their footsteps, but not me. I fucked 739 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 4: around in school, I. 740 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 2: Got into trouble with drugs. 741 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 4: I ended up graduating from Central Connecticut State University. 742 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 2: Go Blue Devils, bitch. 743 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 4: And now I'm a hairstylist. Oh my mom was a hairstylist. 744 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 2: But you know, no shade to hairstylists. We would be 745 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 2: nowhere without them, at least me and Celia. 746 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 4: You don't need shiites all right. Most days I like 747 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 4: what I do, but when I get together with my family, 748 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 4: I always feel like such a loser. I go to therapy, 749 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 4: but I still have some shame by my profession. Do 750 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 4: you think shame will always be there? And if not, 751 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,800 Speaker 4: how do I shake it? Thanks Ron, from. 752 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 2: God, there's so much for Ron to be ashamed of 753 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 2: you're a male hair dresser. I mean, first of all, 754 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 2: the gay shame alone. Yeah, second the living in the 755 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 2: an Sonia, Connecticut shame but honeside joke. Neither one of 756 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,879 Speaker 2: those is shameful. Here's what I like about Ron. He's 757 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 2: living his truth, which is a fag hairstylist. And you know, 758 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 2: I know a fag hairstylist is one of my favorite people, 759 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 2: my very good friend Anthony's husband David Thriving business. This 760 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 2: is what people don't understand about hairstylists. They have a 761 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 2: very difficult skill that none of us in this studio 762 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 2: could do. They are professionals. They get to be creative 763 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 2: and ps. They own businesses a lot of the time, 764 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,839 Speaker 2: so basically, you are your own boss. You can make 765 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 2: the coffee in the morning, people out of the shop 766 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 2: until you want them to come the fuck in. So Ron, 767 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,240 Speaker 2: I'm proud of him for doing his thing. The problem 768 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,800 Speaker 2: is he says he has shame about it. So somewhere 769 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 2: along the lines he got the message, which obviously, with 770 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,760 Speaker 2: the father and grandfather being Yale educated lawyers, you're gonna 771 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 2: get somehow from even if it wasn't your parents, from 772 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 2: the culture at large that you should be doing more. 773 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 2: You should have a better education. You should because you 774 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 2: had the advantages. I also think he has shame about 775 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 2: effing up his college because he says he fucked around 776 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 2: in school, got in trouble with drugs. You have to 777 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 2: work on shaking loose that shame because guess what, we 778 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 2: all fucked around at some point in our lives and 779 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 2: screwed up. He's still alive. If you had really fucked 780 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 2: up with drugs, he wouldn't be alive right now. So 781 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 2: the fact is, if he goes to some kind of 782 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,240 Speaker 2: therapy figures out that there was nothing wrong with experimenting drugs, 783 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 2: he's fine. He has enough skill and talent to make 784 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 2: a great living and it's something that's a noble profession. 785 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 2: Then maybe he could work on that internalized shame and 786 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,399 Speaker 2: shake it. Because to show up at a family thing 787 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 2: and feel that I don't envy that for him none 788 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 2: at all. 789 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 4: Luckily, my family's are retarded. 790 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 2: I don't think we're allowed to say that word anymore. 791 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,839 Speaker 2: Care shut up. You reclaimed it because you are one. 792 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 2: That's exactly I could say it. But I mean, it 793 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 2: is sad when somebody has like a job that anyone 794 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 2: else would I actually would rather listen to him talk 795 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 2: about his clients and about hair styling, then lawyer talking 796 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 2: about the dumb shit they do at Yale. 797 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 4: You know yeah, I think you just you just need 798 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 4: to like it. Stop caring what people think. Man, I 799 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,800 Speaker 4: like he said, he feels like he's a loser. 800 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:58,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's that's that's shame, loser comes from. Shame 801 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 2: actually is different from guilt. Guilt, as we know, is 802 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 2: if you did something wrong. So see how when Celia 803 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 2: read the text and I didn't address anything other than 804 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 2: the y'all, I did something wrong. So instead of me 805 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,799 Speaker 2: feeling guilty about it, I would have felt guilty if 806 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 2: I went home and remembered it. We corrected it. So, yes, 807 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 2: I did something wrong. I apologize and corrected it. Shame 808 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 2: is different from guilt because it tells you it's so 809 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 2: deeply entrenched from whatever society's telling you, or your folks 810 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 2: or your ancestry that you are wrong, not that you 811 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 2: did something wrong, that you are wrong. You're broken. So 812 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:39,240 Speaker 2: poor Ron homosexual hairdresser who earns his own shop on drugs, 813 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 2: still I'm imagining it feels there's something broken about him 814 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 2: and that's worth a deep dive, because boy, once you 815 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,319 Speaker 2: could shed that, Like, I know I do things wrong 816 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 2: all the time, but I know I'm not broken. And 817 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 2: that's a sad way to go through life. 818 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, like I said, it's just I think it's just 819 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,280 Speaker 4: all in his head. Like I guarantee his Fai family 820 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,359 Speaker 4: doesn't think that way or feel that way at all. 821 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,799 Speaker 2: But it's not the point because again, cut hips mic off. No, no, no, 822 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 2: they don't know for the moment, maybe they do. The 823 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 2: whole thing is to be able to withstand the is 824 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,360 Speaker 2: ane and dealing with you alive and you just have 825 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 2: no shame about it once you've unearthed and worked on 826 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 2: the shame you and it is trauma therapy. That would 827 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 2: be trauma therapy, that'd be deep somatic stuff. You're not 828 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 2: gonna talk your way out of this one. This isn't 829 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 2: talking to a therapist. This is really feeling it and 830 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 2: getting it in your body that there's nothing wrong with 831 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 2: you. You're not broken as a person. Once you do that, 832 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 2: somebody could say your job looks like it sucks, and 833 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,760 Speaker 2: you could be like, that's fine. You just want everything 834 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 2: to sort of be like it's fine, Like I should 835 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 2: be able to sell six tickets to some live taping 836 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,279 Speaker 2: or whatever and be like it's it's fine. Those six 837 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,359 Speaker 2: people are the ones who needed to show up, right, 838 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,239 Speaker 2: because that's without shame. But you have to work on that, 839 00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 2: so Ron, I wish you luck girl, have more shame 840 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 2: about the gay stuff though. Yeah, that's a real brokenness, okay. 841 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 2: Next one, speaking at homoes. 842 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:10,320 Speaker 4: Speaking of homos. Dear Lisa, my mom is an extremely 843 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 4: successful novelist. 844 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know grammar, I know diction. I know y'all's diction, 845 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 2: know y'all dition, y'all. 846 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 4: Dicky, my mom's extremely saysible novelist. And I am also 847 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 4: a writer, but have yet to publish my first book. 848 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 4: Sometimes I feel like I should quit, since I'll never 849 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 4: be as good. 850 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 2: As she is. 851 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 4: Jesus Christ, do you think I should give myself a 852 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 4: deadline to publish and if it doesn't happen, move on 853 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 4: to something else. I'm thirty two and feel completely lost. 854 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 4: Thanks Whitney from Berkeley, California. 855 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 2: I mean, the fact is honestly not but suicide. Now 856 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 2: here's the thing that is very tough, like when you 857 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,880 Speaker 2: pick a profession that a parent has excelled in, Like 858 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 2: I always felt sorry for Meryl Streeps to because you're 859 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 2: talking about the greatest actress people. Some say whoever has 860 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,279 Speaker 2: ever lived, she can do it all. And she's got 861 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,240 Speaker 2: those three daughters. Oh look at this, the one sticks. 862 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 2: There's a bunch. They're very successful by any standard. They're 863 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 2: not by a Meryl Streep standard, because no one ever 864 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 2: will be. But that one ends up on Gilded Age. 865 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 2: She plays the Bamlax Marion, who are supposed to think 866 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 2: is hotter than she is. I'm not buying it. It 867 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 2: doesn't matter. I will say that is a very tough 868 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 2: thing to have to live up to mom or dad 869 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 2: and what they did. So this person has to divorce 870 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 2: themselves from like really caring what mom, what they're what 871 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 2: they're putting on it, and ask herself, do I actually 872 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,800 Speaker 2: like to write? Because writing is one of those things 873 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,840 Speaker 2: that it is up to No, it's up to the 874 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 2: stars if you're gonna make it or not. Like it 875 00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,400 Speaker 2: is such a crapshoot with every kind of publishing hutting 876 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,239 Speaker 2: down and self publishing and who knows what's gonna go 877 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 2: viral where you go. I have literally no control if 878 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 2: I never made it, if I never made it, to 879 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,359 Speaker 2: my mother's extent, or even to a small extent, would 880 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 2: I love it enough to do it? If the answer 881 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,439 Speaker 2: is no, just don't do it. But if you love it, 882 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,840 Speaker 2: that's I know it sounds woo woo, but I'm sorry. 883 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,879 Speaker 2: The work is the reward. If you are sitting down 884 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 2: every day and you're like, oh my god, this is 885 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 2: so much fun, why would you even care if you're 886 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,399 Speaker 2: a success, that's just an external validation that you really 887 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,760 Speaker 2: don't need. I more would applaud a writer who's stuck 888 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 2: with it despite lack of material success. I was like, 889 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 2: oh my god, it just makes me happy. When I 890 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 2: talk to people who are like, I'm a writer and 891 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, what do you write? And they go, oh, 892 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:49,719 Speaker 2: I do, like every day I have this thing I 893 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 2: do And I'm like, oh my god, I love that 894 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 2: you love to sit there and do that. I have 895 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 2: a friend who wrote a fucking mini series Get This. 896 00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 2: I think it's like a limited series for herself because 897 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 2: she was in a writing class. She has meetings with 898 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 2: producers and things set up. But she's like, I just 899 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 2: loved sitting every day and writing. I'm like, what's that? Like? Like, 900 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 2: how cool? Is that? So? She has to take out 901 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:17,439 Speaker 2: the moms better than me. Because also, if we quit 902 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,399 Speaker 2: everything because someone's better than us, none of us would 903 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 2: be doing anything. We would all be laying in bed. 904 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 2: There's a billion better and more successful comics than me. 905 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 2: I mean five times the amount for Nick, because what's 906 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 2: he got to offer? Celia could say, oh, so and 907 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 2: so is a better producer. Why don't I just quit? 908 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,799 Speaker 2: We wouldn't be doing anything. Actively. You just pursue excellence 909 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 2: in your mind. So it might be not excellent by 910 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:49,320 Speaker 2: mom's standards, but by yours, and you just keep doing it. Celia, 911 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 2: does this make sense to you? And please just be 912 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 2: nick and yell? Fuck yeah it does. No, it doesn't 913 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 2: make sense to you. 914 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:55,719 Speaker 5: Fuck yeah. 915 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 2: Do you ever compare yourself like that to where you go, Well, 916 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 2: I'm not the best in the world. Maybe I should 917 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:01,919 Speaker 2: just quit. 918 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:03,759 Speaker 5: I don't think I should quit. 919 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 2: What do you think you should do? 920 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 5: Be better? 921 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 2: Okay? So she just needs to keep working on her writing. 922 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,400 Speaker 2: If she indeed loves it, it makes you be better. 923 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,760 Speaker 2: I remember years ago they used to say Sinbad, Remember 924 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 2: that comic Sinbad. When he was coming up, he had 925 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 2: a poster of Eddie Murphy on his bedroom wall, and 926 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,240 Speaker 2: he'd look at it every day and he'd say, catching 927 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 2: up on you, motherfucker. So for him it was motivating 928 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,800 Speaker 2: if it wasn't debilitating. So you can shift to where 929 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:37,279 Speaker 2: that is a tool. But if you don't love the thing, 930 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,879 Speaker 2: you're not gonna want to do it anyway, even if 931 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,960 Speaker 2: you have Mom's success or Eddie Murphy's success. Does that 932 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 2: make sense? 933 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 5: It does? 934 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 2: Hell yeah, he said, Oh Jesus Christ, I think I 935 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,799 Speaker 2: make total sense. Nick. Could we have one last letter 936 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 2: and make it the fifth one? I like number five best. 937 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 2: It's on the next patge darre Lathom. 938 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 4: Okay, dear Lisa. Two brothers work for my father and 939 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,440 Speaker 4: the family business, a textile company. 940 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:09,759 Speaker 2: Three letters right there, j W. Yeah. 941 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 4: My dad tried to get me to do the same thing. 942 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 4: But I can never sit in an office all day, 943 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 4: correct Now. I'm a personal a flexible schedule. 944 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,360 Speaker 2: Of love, life, freedom loser. 945 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,879 Speaker 4: I think my brothers are resentful. I paved my own 946 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 4: path and I'm not depending on our father like they are. 947 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,440 Speaker 4: Makes sense. That's for my dad. 948 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 7: He barely talks to me anymore. 949 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:30,399 Speaker 2: Boy. 950 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 4: It's sad to me that he's written me off just 951 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,439 Speaker 4: because I didn't conform or maybe thinks I rejected his work. 952 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 4: He's a cold businessman, so discussing with the discussing this 953 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 4: with him is not realistic. What do you think I 954 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 4: should do in Oakland? 955 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:49,960 Speaker 2: You, Randy, should take somebody that free time between training, saysions. 956 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,880 Speaker 7: Did jerk off on your fatish pictures? 957 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 4: Yeahtiles? 958 00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a techtile for ye. 959 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 7: How that feeling, y'all? Here's here's what I have to say. 960 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 7: These Jews are tough. 961 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 2: I have to say, Randy, you got it. Get your 962 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:18,799 Speaker 2: head around. You built the life you want. You are 963 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 2: volunteering for this suffering because you're torturing yourself. You don't 964 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,239 Speaker 2: know if your dad's bad because he barely talks to 965 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:28,960 Speaker 2: you anymore. 966 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,359 Speaker 7: You say, maybe he thinks I were agistered in his work. 967 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,879 Speaker 2: Well, how about you like just guess a billion things 968 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,799 Speaker 2: about your dad, refuse to talk about him, and then 969 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:37,280 Speaker 2: just suffer. 970 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:38,239 Speaker 7: You can do that. 971 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 2: Keep doing that, Randy, and then you're gonna be mad 972 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,319 Speaker 2: and your clients and you're gonna drop a weight on 973 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,360 Speaker 2: their fucking foot and you're gonna end up with a 974 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 2: broken back and they're gonna be a dentist to not 975 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 2: be able to operate on their their their their clients, 976 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:52,280 Speaker 2: and then. 977 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:53,640 Speaker 7: You are to blame for Celia. 978 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:53,879 Speaker 4: Shit. 979 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:55,960 Speaker 2: If you don't. 980 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 8: Understand any of that, just go back and listen to 981 00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 8: the previously you. 982 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 2: Let's say to yourself, let me either talk to my 983 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,400 Speaker 2: dad or find some peace around my decision. 984 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,480 Speaker 7: There's something in him that feels worthless in a. 985 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 2: Way because he didn't do this path, because you can't. 986 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,759 Speaker 2: Everybody isn't built for the nine to five. Everybody isn't 987 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 2: built for the structure of something like that. There's a 988 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 2: safety in it. Sure, that's admirable. Wasn't your path, dude, 989 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:27,399 Speaker 2: But try to talk. 990 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:28,160 Speaker 7: I don't like this. 991 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 2: He's a cold, business like man, so discussing with him 992 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,759 Speaker 2: is not realistic. But at least you can talk about 993 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,400 Speaker 2: it to a shrink. Get it out there. There's this 994 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 2: new therapy called wait, let me get it right, systemic 995 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 2: constellation therapy, which is where you actually talk to these people. 996 00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:49,360 Speaker 7: There's group therapy. 997 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:53,040 Speaker 2: Someone will play the dad, someone plays mom, someone plays ancestors, 998 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:57,680 Speaker 2: et cetera. Super powerful and you can actually, even if 999 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 2: someone's dead, converse with them and come to some realization. 1000 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 2: It's not magic. It takes a bunch of sessions. But 1001 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 2: it's fairly quick. It's not like years and years, and 1002 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 2: you can. 1003 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,439 Speaker 7: At least find peace within you. 1004 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,120 Speaker 2: If you think dad isn't going to give you any peace, 1005 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 2: it's not his job to do it. 1006 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 8: This is your struggle, and you'll be a better person 1007 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,520 Speaker 8: if you learn through some decent therapy. 1008 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,759 Speaker 7: That makes sense, Nick, you're staring at me with like 1009 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 7: not going. 1010 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,279 Speaker 4: No, I thought more was coming. Hell, yeah, no, I 1011 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:33,359 Speaker 4: was just kidding. Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm a fat 1012 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:34,560 Speaker 4: personal trainer. Think about that. 1013 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 7: Shame you gotta shame around that. 1014 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 4: I don't actually, but yeah, poor Randy, Yeah, dude, like 1015 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,000 Speaker 4: she said, fucking figure it out, bitch, talk to your dad. 1016 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,280 Speaker 7: Therapy shut him off? 1017 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:51,000 Speaker 5: Right? 1018 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:57,080 Speaker 2: Nothing right, Celia, nothing, He had not add to the thought. 1019 00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,279 Speaker 7: I wasn't ready to start talking yet. Yeah, we had 1020 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:00,000 Speaker 7: to talk on the way. 1021 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,919 Speaker 2: Hearing me and this idiots every single time we drive 1022 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,239 Speaker 2: to the city, he goes so mad. 1023 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:13,120 Speaker 7: Well every time, shut it up. I'll fucking right will 1024 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:19,360 Speaker 7: charge me every time. So to listen, what's. 1025 00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:23,360 Speaker 2: Your favorite what's your favorite neighborhood? 1026 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:23,799 Speaker 7: You lived in? 1027 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 2: What? 1028 00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 7: But how many times I've told him? 1029 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:34,760 Speaker 2: Fifteen? Upper West Side? So I said, you said upper easy, Laura. 1030 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,960 Speaker 2: So you don't listen, you know, I'll tell you exactly 1031 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,120 Speaker 2: what does he checks out? My mother used to do 1032 00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,200 Speaker 2: this too. I got used to it, so I can 1033 00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 2: read it and I cannot get mad at it. I'm 1034 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:44,840 Speaker 2: joking about now, but it's like I get it. 1035 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:45,960 Speaker 6: Literally. 1036 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,759 Speaker 2: My mother was always onto the next question before she 1037 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:54,000 Speaker 2: listened to that answer. So it's just they're uncomfortable as humans. 1038 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:58,560 Speaker 2: They're obviously very not well evolved. Yeah, so that's what 1039 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,719 Speaker 2: this letter where I was talking. I was talking about 1040 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 2: this new fucking therapy that he should probably be and 1041 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 2: to be honest, then he had a figure it's too 1042 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,680 Speaker 2: close to the bony has to check out, and he 1043 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:10,760 Speaker 2: just sat there staring. 1044 00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,480 Speaker 7: Then he pretended that it was because. 1045 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,880 Speaker 2: Oh, she's not done talking yet, and then all of 1046 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,919 Speaker 2: a sudden comes out with his fuck yet. 1047 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,440 Speaker 7: So what's the take to where you're just gonna be 1048 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,160 Speaker 7: nick and you're just gonna do the fuck yet? Don't 1049 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:27,520 Speaker 7: dishonor No? I thought you had more to say. 1050 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,640 Speaker 4: Wait, can I ask a question about this therapy? 1051 00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:33,120 Speaker 7: You can use it? 1052 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:33,400 Speaker 3: No? 1053 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,600 Speaker 7: No, no, go ahead? Did it with me? So what 1054 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:37,800 Speaker 7: do you so? 1055 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,480 Speaker 4: So you're pretending to talk to people in your family. 1056 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:41,360 Speaker 7: Is that what's happening. 1057 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,560 Speaker 2: It's literally like if you're seeing what comes up around 1058 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,919 Speaker 2: this issue with them, so you it could be as 1059 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,319 Speaker 2: literal as starting with dad. 1060 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:51,880 Speaker 8: I really feel like blah. 1061 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:56,000 Speaker 2: Blah blahem too like ancestors and how it's a lot 1062 00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,840 Speaker 2: of this is intergenerational trauma. A lot of it is 1063 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 2: that the grandfather, they're expected that, and then the great grandfather, 1064 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,200 Speaker 2: and so you have to really kind of get where 1065 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 2: everyone's on your team in that room. 1066 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:09,960 Speaker 7: And when Brad and I did it about. 1067 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,959 Speaker 2: An issue I had, I just felt like by the time, 1068 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 2: I mean, it sounds magical, but I don't care because 1069 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:20,000 Speaker 2: I know what works. Whatever was bothering me for that session, 1070 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,160 Speaker 2: that was leading up to that session and been bothering 1071 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:26,200 Speaker 2: me for years and it still exists, but the charge 1072 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:26,680 Speaker 2: is gone. 1073 00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,200 Speaker 8: I no longer have shame about it. I no longer 1074 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,480 Speaker 8: have guilt about it. I no longer have like, oh, 1075 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:32,280 Speaker 8: I'm a loser. 1076 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 2: So a lot of this loser stuff comes from what 1077 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,720 Speaker 2: the other generations felt about themselves, and then we take 1078 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:39,000 Speaker 2: it on. 1079 00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,760 Speaker 7: So it's really powerful. People should look it up. 1080 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 2: Won't because the only one who seems to do what 1081 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 2: I say is Celia, and that is why she's my favorite. Yoah, 1082 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:54,040 Speaker 2: I don't. 1083 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,280 Speaker 7: Care, dude, I don't know. 1084 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 4: Why would you say the therapy and conversing with different 1085 00:57:59,000 --> 00:57:59,680 Speaker 4: family members. 1086 00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:00,560 Speaker 7: I thought it was. 1087 00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,120 Speaker 4: Like people were there like actor like people pretending. 1088 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,800 Speaker 7: The other people are there. 1089 00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:16,000 Speaker 2: Group there. Yes, it's not like it's jokes, because he 1090 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:17,320 Speaker 2: said I don't do it in groups. 1091 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:18,120 Speaker 7: I do it solo. 1092 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,720 Speaker 8: Would you be willing to do that just to see 1093 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 8: if it worked at all? 1094 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:25,560 Speaker 7: Yes, but people are pretending to be They don't act like. 1095 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,439 Speaker 8: I know, but I think it's just like pretend I'm 1096 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,240 Speaker 8: your mom. How would you speak to me? 1097 00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:31,240 Speaker 7: What? 1098 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:31,600 Speaker 2: What? 1099 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:32,920 Speaker 8: What do you What do you need to tell me 1100 00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,320 Speaker 8: that's coming up for you right now? 1101 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 7: What do you remember? 1102 00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:35,600 Speaker 5: And? 1103 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:39,000 Speaker 7: Boy? Did it's freaking I know it sounds who whoop, dude, 1104 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:40,520 Speaker 7: it is powerful. It freaks me out. 1105 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:41,000 Speaker 4: But I should. 1106 00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,880 Speaker 2: You should probably do a lot of things, and none 1107 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,200 Speaker 2: of them are things you're gonna do. 1108 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,120 Speaker 7: The only one who seems to listen is Celia, and 1109 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,040 Speaker 7: that is why on this. 1110 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:55,160 Speaker 2: First episode of season two, she gets the applause break 1111 00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 2: that she's. 1112 00:58:55,960 --> 00:59:02,800 Speaker 8: Never gotten before. Looking at so does that make you happy? 1113 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:03,200 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1114 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:06,200 Speaker 8: Cute? 1115 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, that means expresses. It's like diction. 1116 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:16,439 Speaker 2: That's my this's great to be back. 1117 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,400 Speaker 7: Are you happy we're back with teasing two. 1118 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:21,600 Speaker 4: In the studio. 1119 00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:27,840 Speaker 7: Her mother's count. It's weird when you're walk into this 1120 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:29,120 Speaker 7: particular studio. 1121 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,200 Speaker 2: Like Elvis is the one we usually recorded. It says 1122 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:36,520 Speaker 2: Star on it versus, but I think it's. 1123 00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,760 Speaker 4: More my like my mother donated before she died, to 1124 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,400 Speaker 4: the studio. She donated her cont. 1125 00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,760 Speaker 2: Wrapping up for a snack. Where can people find us? 1126 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:45,560 Speaker 2: What do you need to say? 1127 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,720 Speaker 7: What's our Let's see if you remember from last year 1128 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:52,440 Speaker 7: what you're supposed to say. Hey, guys, you're doing great. 1129 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:59,919 Speaker 4: If you guys have questions for me, especially or least 1130 01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,400 Speaker 4: uh or Celia, she becomes more involved. You can email 1131 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,480 Speaker 4: us at shrink this Show at gmail dot com. That's 1132 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:12,080 Speaker 4: shrink this Show at gmail dot com. Listen to us 1133 01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,400 Speaker 4: on your iHeartRadio app or wherever the hell you get podcasts. 1134 01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:16,600 Speaker 4: Please give us a follow. 1135 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:21,520 Speaker 7: Oh please give that you know fu. Oh you're so stupid, 1136 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:28,600 Speaker 7: you know what? You forgot to say that? Thanks give them? 1137 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,040 Speaker 7: Thanks for listening. Sincerely, thanks for listening. 1138 01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:36,160 Speaker 2: We love you. We'll see you next week.