WEBVTT - Training Camp-Cast 8/6: Intensity Rises, Brown and Gonzalez Heat Up, Defense Flourishes 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:01.960 Patriots are back in pads for a six time in 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:04.800 eight days. As the intensity continues to ramp up. Aj 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:07.040 Brown and Christian Gonzalez are going at it, and the 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:14.520 defense finished the day with a flourish let's get into it. 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:21.040 Welcome everybody to the Patriots camp cast, and we're back 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:24.079 for practice number eleven. That's right, Paul, we've crossed the 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:26.960 halfway point of training camp and the intensity and the 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:28.880 heat continue to dominate this practice. 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:30.520 I was a little surprised that we got out there. 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:33.000 We're kind of expecting them dial back a little bit, 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:35.400 maybe in shells, but they were back in pads, getting 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:36.960 after another competitive practice. 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:39.760 Yeah, maybe we switched those shells and pads days. We'll 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:42.920 see what they're in tomorrow, but pads again today after 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:45.560 the walk through yesterday and a lot of team drills 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:47.600 that that was one of the things that we noticed. 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:50.440 I think the last couple of practices in full pads 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:53.040 is a lot of team a lot eleven on eleven, 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:55.320 not as much of you know, the seven on seven's 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:57.840 and the one on ones and all that kind of stuff. 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:00.760 So they did one quick period of that in between 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:03.800 eleven on eleven's, but a lot of just put the 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:05.679 ball down and let's play. And I think we're at 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:08.679 that point of practice of training camp where we got 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:10.360 to make a game like at this point, I think 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:12.360 that's what we saw today with a two minute drill 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:13.000 at the end too. 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:15.440 I did think there was an overall sort of lull. 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:19.440 There was definitely more intensity on the defensive side, particularly 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:22.840 in the secondary. I think you mentioned in the tease 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:26.240 Mike finishing with a flourish how about three interceptions on 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:29.520 three consecutive plays to close out practice, So I definitely 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:31.360 thought there was a little more juice on defense, but 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:33.440 you can definitely see the wear and tear starting to show. 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:34.640 Yeah, let's talk about that a little bit. 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:37.480 I mean, the Christian Zalaz aj Brown matchup continues to 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:40.560 just the camp so fun to watch their competitive with it. 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:42.080 I thought Gonzalez kind. 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:44.039 Of owned the day up until that two minute when 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:46.040 AJ Brown did come down with a little bit of 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:47.200 a contested catch there. 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:49.840 But that matchup to me has been so much fun. 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:53.240 You see Christian Zalez talking about it after practice, talking 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:55.360 a little trash back and forth. But as we like 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:57.440 to say, iron sharpens iron, seems like those guys are 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:58.400 making each other better. 0:01:58.520 --> 0:01:59.640 Yeah, that's the hope. 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:02.160 I thought Brown got behind him on one and Drake 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:04.200 May kind of threw the wrong shoulder and it didn't 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:07.280 give AJ Brown the best ball. But overall, I think 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:09.440 Gonzalez has kind of controlled the deep part of the 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:11.480 field and given up a lot of the underneath stuff 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:13.920 da Aj Brown. And that's been sort of the chess 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:16.400 match that you've seen back and forth. So it's been 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:18.880 interesting to see those two guys. I can't think of 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:22.440 really a matchup in a Patriots camp that's that star 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:26.639 studded where it's really one v one the whole practice 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:29.560 with two guys going against each other. So I guess 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:32.040 we could get philosophical and talk about like well the 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:35.760 safety and against the quarterback or something, but like truly 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:38.640 going one on one like that, rep after rep after 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:41.160 rep has been a ton of fun just to watch. 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:45.440 You say, iron sharpens iron. There's different types of levels 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:49.080 of iron sharpens iron. This is a high up there iron. 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:50.880 Yeah, and it was great to hear it. I don't 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:52.480 know my iron spell, but. 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:54.560 Gonzalez talked about it too, you know, he said it's 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:57.959 you know, he started, he was like, it's good on good, yeah, 0:02:58.000 --> 0:02:59.720 And I think he want like he was going to 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:01.600 say great on great, but I don't think he wanted 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:03.720 to put himself in that category. And then he said, 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:06.480 it's definitely a number one receiver in the NFL against 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:10.240 the you know, a number one corner. So he talked 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:12.480 about how you can't help, but you know, sort of 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:15.840 get motivated by that and accept the challenge. I do 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:18.040 think for the most part during camp, I think Gonzalez 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:21.920 has had the upper hand. I share Evans's viewpoint on 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:26.680 that one deep ball down the sideline. I would have 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:28.520 liked to have seen that play unfold a little bit 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:31.240 differently to see just how good the coverage was and 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:32.960 if the ball was where I. 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:34.079 Think Brown was expecting it. 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:36.560 I think that may have been another one of those 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:38.400 plays where you see two guys fighting for the ball, 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:40.960 who wins, but the throw wasn't necessarily where it needed 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:42.680 to be. But a lot of fun to watch those 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:43.520 two guys compete. 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:44.440 Yeah, let's talk about that. 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:46.119 In the last you know, two minute trio they put 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:47.920 with like one twenty up on the clock, you can 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:50.560 tell they're you know, being conscious, hand in the ball back, 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:52.000 you know, doing all the things you need to do. 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:53.960 Got off to a good start and you hit. 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:55.960 Hunter Henry for a little game, a little checkdown to 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:58.680 Remandra got stopped short. That was then Brown comes up 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:01.040 with the catch. They clock it, and that's when things 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.880 went sideways. Yeah, Marcus Jones comes up with a pick. 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:06.560 And then the final play of Drake May's eleven on 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:09.960 eleven there in the red zone was Kevin Bayern dropping 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:12.320 into coverage where it looked like Drake May was maybe 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:14.360 throwing into a party down there, just like there or 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:17.240 a lot of Bob's. Kevin Byrt's dropping back like he's 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:18.560 fielding a punt, went up and got it. 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:20.320 I'm going to say that was the worst play that 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:22.040 I've seen Drake May have of all summer. 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:24.839 I'm going to give a single worst rent potentially a 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:25.560 context out. 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:27.920 I wonder if that was like fourth down in the game. 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:29.800 I think it may have been, because like that to 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:30.840 me seemed like a hail Mary. 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:33.120 Absolutely think it may have been. And I still would 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:34.760 say it was the worst throw that I've seen him make. 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:37.280 All threw it to Hunter Henry, who's probably the tallest 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:38.960 guy out there, and he kind of just threw it 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:39.680 up in the end, so it. 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:41.400 Gave him no opportunity to make a player. 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:43.159 I mean, there was three blue shirts in the way, 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:45.680 so it would have been hard the pick to Marcus 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:47.520 Jones had I thought it was just a really good 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:49.960 read and a good play by Marcus Jones to kind 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:52.480 of jump in front of I think it was Booty, 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:54.440 but yeah, it just kind of beat. 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:55.280 Him to the spot there. 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:58.560 But I would agree it was not a good good 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:01.000 ending to practice unless he heard defense guy deuce and 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:02.400 you want to say it was a good ending to. 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:03.719 Practice either way. 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:05.560 But what I did like about the two minute drill 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:08.280 to start was like that those were the like easy 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:08.920 money throws. 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:12.800 The first down, yeah, first first, Yeah, that defense. 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:15.640 Is always give you those little checkdowns, and everybody's trying 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:17.200 to push the ball down the field and get it 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:20.320 all at once, and they were able to matriculate it 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:23.400 into a scoring area of the field and then that's 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:25.800 when it went sideways. So a good start to the 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:27.920 two minute drill, I thought in terms of the patients 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.480 that Drake may show to get the ball down the 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:32.440 field into it area where he could throw it into 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:35.039 the end zone and then obviously not a good finish. 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:38.200 Yeah, so Buyer makes the interception, the defense celebrates energy 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:40.080 is high, Tommy DeVito, the two's coming. 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:42.080 In celebration for Kevin Byrd by the way, we'll get 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:42.279 to that. 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.760 But then Tommy DeVito comes out very next play, John 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:46.840 Saunders picks him off. 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:48.919 I don't even know where that ball was going, like 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:51.640 I probably Tommy DeVito's was. Yeah, I don't even know 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.279 who the intended receiver was on that one. Gay Back 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:57.360 is flashed inside as well on Demetrious crown Over. I 0:05:57.400 --> 0:06:00.040 thought AKIS noticed him a couple of times today getting 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:01.120 pressure on the quarterback. 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:04.440 So that was that play. To me, I want to 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.120 give Drake mayn out and say that maybe he was 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:07.600 thrown up. 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:10.720 It may have been a desperation play. Yeah, I agree 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:11.960 with you that I had the looks. 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:12.400 Yeah. 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:15.040 The other two interceptions we were not good. 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:17.239 Well, let's let's talk about a little bit of housekeeping 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:19.240 stuff because we said the heat, a lot of you know, 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:22.680 six padded pack practices they're getting after it, you know, 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.520 some injuries. Romeo Dobbs missed the second day, walked through yesterday, 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:28.839 was not out there today. Carlton Davis continues to miss practice. 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:31.719 Will Campbell was spotted yesterday with an arm brace on 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:35.159 he didn't participate in eleven on eleven's Marcus Bryant got 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:36.119 in there at left tackle. 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:38.560 A little bit hat tip to Marcus Bryant. 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:41.479 He was out there a lot of plays, not just 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:43.640 the ones that left tackle. He was with some of 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:47.320 the secondary groups at different spots too, And again, that 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:50.080 was a tough day to go through that had a 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:52.719 little hat tip to Marcus Bryant today a little extra duty. 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:54.160 Yeah, he's had a pretty good camp. 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:56.400 I think, you know, I think there's still ways to 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:59.760 go with his pad level and you know, his ability 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:02.520 to square up guys in the run game off the ball, 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:04.760 but I think he's had a solid camp and is 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:07.799 really the fourth tackle now, I think pretty solidified there. 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:10.360 I did think it was interesting that he got the 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:12.960 reps at left tackle over Caleb Lomoo. Now maybe they 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:15.600 wanted Lomu to work at right tackle today and so 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:19.160 that was why they did that, But Will Campbell working 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:21.880 off to the side, didn't participate, and it was Marcus 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:24.320 Bryant that got the call up to the first team 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:26.880 left tackle instead of Lomu. So just a little bit 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:29.400 notable to me that they went to Bryant out. But 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:31.920 right now, if I had to make a roster projection. 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:33.920 He's the fourth tackle that I think is on the 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:34.480 team right now. 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:36.440 Let's get a couple other just little notes. Evan, you 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.560 mentioned gay backus getting some run with the ones. Seems 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:41.560 like his workload is increasing a little bit. Charles Woods 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:43.880 getting you know, with the first team at cornerback without 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:45.760 Carlton Davis there, he's been their top option. 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:47.560 He walked off hopefully. 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:49.160 He related, that's what we hope one days like this, Paul. 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:51.640 But yeah, Kendall Vildor gets in there and he's. 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:53.000 I don't know if that one was he related. He 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:53.520 went down. 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:56.680 He was covering Tomorroo Douglass in the slot and I 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:59.480 think he got picked off by like a linebacker or 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:01.480 something in the middle of the field and he went 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:04.080 I saw him go down, and uh, he got back 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:07.000 up though it wasn't like a non contact injury, which 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:08.960 makes me think that it was like he just kind 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:10.880 of got right into or something. 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:13.080 Like him and Jim Whale and you know, walking off together. 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:15.400 He's under his own power, so hopefully he's okay. But 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:18.120 you know, opportunity for Kendall Vildor to get in there. Uh, 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:21.559 you know, Paul, your guy Channing Canada getting some some options. 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:23.080 It seems like those cornerbacks. 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:26.360 Doesn't want to head Yeah one brand uh, but a lot. 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:28.040 Of those guys getting run at that, you know, even 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:30.520 Kobe Minor as well, you know, just they've had some 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:33.720 injuries there. Davis has been out, so opportunity. It's an 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:35.680 interesting position where it seems like there's a bunch of 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:37.520 guys one of those competitions on the roster of where 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:39.040 I feel like everybody's kind of in the mix. 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:40.120 Yeah, I still think. 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:43.080 Charles Woods is the guy that's gonna be the fourth corner, 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:46.840 third rotational outside guy. It's really a competition. To me, 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:48.760 are they going to keep five of them? Are they 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:51.200 going to keep six of them? And who are those players? 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:51.360 You know? 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:53.760 I I still feel like Prunty has done enough so 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:56.800 far that if it's between him and like a Kendallville door, 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.600 I'd probably keep punting just for the upside and the 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:01.440 youth and the fact that you just drafted him. 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:03.439 But it's an interesting spot to look at. 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:06.280 I would say those corner and linebacker are the two 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:08.800 spots where we've seen the most kind of competition. At 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:11.800 the back of the roster. Seems like Muma's really taken 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:13.120 a step ahead. 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:13.760 Of everybody else. 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:16.280 They started I think the first team period in what 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:19.360 would I guess be the actual base defense. 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:22.200 Yeah, three linebackers, and Muma was the third. Yeah. 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:25.720 To your point, some of those sort of secondary positions 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:28.840 that we've been talking about are starting to clarify themselves. 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:29.160 Yep. 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:31.440 Yeah, Well that'll do it for practice number eleven. We 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:33.920 back on Friday. For practice number twelve. It is open 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:35.960 to the public, so if you're around here, come on down. 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.600 Of course, we all have our eye on that Indianapolis 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.840 Coach joint practice coming up on Tuesday.