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Speaker 1: Welcome back All the Smoke. Indianapolis All Star twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four Jack.

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Speaker 2: It has been a solid day. We gotta, we gotta.

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Speaker 2: This is a.

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Speaker 3: I would say, a trendsetter episode. Yeah, what else can

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Speaker 3: me say about it?

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Speaker 1: I mean he's controlling the game right, kicking the door

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Speaker 1: open for us, you know what I'm saying in the

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Speaker 1: snake skin when it was.

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Speaker 2: Locked, he kicked that motherfucker over.

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Speaker 4: Definitely in snake skins. I don't think about all that stuff,

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Speaker 4: but yeah, definitely. And these snakes died peacefully in their sleep. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you go, just so they weren't harm They were not harmed.

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Speaker 2: We love to hear that. Man. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Pat McAfee. Yeah, excited about this man. It's our guy, Man,

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Speaker 2: it's our guy. Will tell us how you and Pat

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Speaker 2: initially met.

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Speaker 3: So me and Pat initially met when I played it

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Speaker 3: the Pacers, And the first time we met was that

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Speaker 3: I don't know. It was a holiday party and men

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Speaker 3: Jammin was coming because Peyton invited us. As soon as

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Speaker 3: I walked in, he sent you to come greet us

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Speaker 3: and bring us to the back.

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Speaker 2: Soon as I got there, I'm like, hold up. Me

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Speaker 2: and this guy, we just hit it off. Next thing,

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Speaker 2: you know, you know, we was having drinks.

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Speaker 3: We had a good time and ever since then, you know,

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Speaker 3: we had the mutual respect for each other and uh,

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Speaker 3: this has been a good relationship since.

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Speaker 4: Stack, watching you through the years, learning about you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a legend, dude. And you see where I started.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, hey, listen, and you've seen where I started.

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Speaker 4: So I mean here in Indianapolis those first couple of

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Speaker 4: was Indianapolis was a great time, a great place, and uh,

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Speaker 4: I was lucky to be here and you were are

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Speaker 4: always kind of me, which is awesome. I appreciate.

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Speaker 1: Good dude, Good dude. First of all, before we get out,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we want to just congratulate you. I think

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Speaker 1: your your evolution in the path you've taken, and I think,

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Speaker 1: like Jack said, the doors you've kicked down and really

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Speaker 1: kind of just unapologetically you. You are arguably, if not be,

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Speaker 5: Player doing it. It's a real new wave.

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Speaker 1: But first of all, congratulations on that, But talk to

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Speaker 1: us about that journey, because I'm sure it wasn't as

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Now we're seeing you on TV in your tank tops

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Speaker 1: on ESPN and you get to cuss and you get.

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Speaker 5: To do other shit. I'm like, yo, bros, really doing

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Speaker 4: I have to negotiate all that in there. So there's

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Speaker 4: actually there was in negotiation the words that I'd be

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Speaker 4: I would say, And to be honest, I appreciate you

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Speaker 4: guys saying that because I've been watching you guys. I

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Speaker 4: mean just historic. I mean, Matt, I know it probably

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Speaker 4: Gift is one of the greatest of all time, you

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Speaker 4: and Kobe, that moment is like one of the most

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Speaker 4: legendary moments in the history of sport. And then to

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Speaker 4: that's like something you can't get anywhere else. So like,

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Speaker 4: I'm inspired by you guys. I'm inspired by all athletes

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Speaker 4: eliminate the middleman who has always been able to pick

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Speaker 4: and choose which stories matter, which stories don't matter, which

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Speaker 4: voices matter, which voices don't matter. Like I'm a punter,

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Speaker 4: bro okay, So like you don't have to know football

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Speaker 4: that well to know that my position ain't worth a fuck.

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Speaker 4: Like if we are, you know, like if we're down,

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Speaker 4: And the group of dudes I have around me are dogs.

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Speaker 4: have great work ethics, you know. I think that's something

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Speaker 4: very lucky that my entire team dogs. All of them

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Speaker 4: do some sports talk. And yeah, it's the dumbest shit

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Speaker 4: very lucky, very very dumb, And to say it was

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Speaker 1: I mean, your rise to the top, I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you And we talked to Dan LeBatard about this

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Speaker 4: But he's talks some shit on me, has he? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Oh get him. That's our guy. But we love to

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Speaker 4: When I saw you signed with him, I was certainly

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Speaker 4: asking some questions. This guy over here, I think and

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Speaker 4: Ryan is his name is?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought you guys could have made it the

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Speaker 2: We partner with them to build out the fast Channel.

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Speaker 4: Love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's the idea.

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Speaker 4: And I like Dan. I got respect for Dan. I

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Speaker 4: and that greatly affected my deal with Fanduels. So I

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Speaker 4: got a lot of respect. But a lot of these

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Speaker 4: Uh and they've certainly made that known.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we've had some we've had you know why, right,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they weren't allowed to, is what it wasn't allowed to.

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Speaker 4: You think I was allowed to though, Like, that's the

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Speaker 3: You had the you had I'm gonna say, bolls, you

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Speaker 3: That's that's a big difference.

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Speaker 4: Hey, I'm a fucking asshole of those suits too, Like

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Speaker 4: It is because when I retired, I had, like I mean, stack,

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Speaker 4: nothing for you Fox, and we got nothing for you.

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Speaker 4: to hear a punter who's been arrested that swears who's

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Speaker 4: same middle management people five years ago, six years ago

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Speaker 4: saying we got nothing for you, and it's like I

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Speaker 4: remember that, like you know, and I'm never gonna forget that. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So it's it's I have the I think I have

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Speaker 4: the right level of pettiness. Uh, there's some unintelligent ship

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Speaker 4: I've said people that I shouldn't in these negotiations. But

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Speaker 4: I also got the crew around me where I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I have a safety none, like if a deal falls through,

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Speaker 4: Like people are thinking we're gonna get kicked off ESPN

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Speaker 4: this year already, Like people are already assuming that it's not

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Speaker 4: gonna work, it's not gonna last, because you know, Aaron

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Speaker 4: started a war with Jimmy Kimmel on our show, Jimmy Kimmel. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: But how do you navigate Obviously Aaron is a good

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Speaker 1: friend of yours, and but ESPN is you know who

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Speaker 4: Honestly, this show is called All the Smoke?

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Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, that was pretty well put together.

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Speaker 4: You should think about changing your name from Boner Garage

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Speaker 5: About doing that.

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Speaker 4: That's a good time. That's a wild place, man.

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Speaker 4: I like what you guys are doing. Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, me neither. It's beautiful. Thank you. Shout out Foxhole Fox.

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Speaker 4: What are you guys doing. You're doing a bunch of stuff.

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Speaker 2: So a big responsibility but dope.

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Speaker 4: You should guys make really good ship.

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Speaker 4: to meadow Lark for seeing what everybody else is seeing

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00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,119
Speaker 4: and giving you guys some real like a safety net

435
00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:21,680
Speaker 4: to go get it.

436
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 5: It's awesome.

437
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you deserve it. You guys deserve it. All.

438
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,760
Speaker 4: With that being said, I think you were tank tops.

439
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,880
Speaker 4: I think you start, you know, coming over.

440
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,119
Speaker 2: I said he had his drug dealer outfit on with

441
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:42,879
Speaker 2: some snake skins.

442
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 4: Just yeah, I mean, Stag looks hilarious. I mean, you're

443
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 4: looking phenomenal right now, and this is great. You said

444
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:51,800
Speaker 4: it's Nike.

445
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 2: Nike. Nobody can't believe that.

446
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 4: So I've been very lucky to go to a lot

447
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 4: of events where you know NBA folks are and if

448
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,840
Speaker 4: you are just a basic as human, you need to

449
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 4: find something that has got two to three inches on

450
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 4: the hill. Yeah, you know, because the small one on

451
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 4: TV NBA guy is six ' five. Yeah, so yeah,

452
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 4: I need to add a little hype. Yeah there's who's

453
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 4: that tall? Who's uh yeah, Jesus Christ walked in here,

454
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 4: seven foot seven footer, eight footer going to the bathroom,

455
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,400
Speaker 4: three foot dumps and you guys, this place is awesome.

456
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:34,160
Speaker 2: Y inser? Inser? What does that mean to you? Pittsburgh?

457
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,400
Speaker 4: Okay, So a yinser is like a white trash person

458
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 4: from Pittsburgh.

459
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:38,160
Speaker 2: Yinser.

460
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 4: Okay, Like that's what the in is because you know

461
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 4: in the South they say y'all, y'all yeah, and I

462
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 4: think like eastern Pennsylvania and over there they say you

463
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,920
Speaker 4: ins Pittsburgh, it says yeens. So it's like high End's

464
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 4: doing is like Pittsburgh talk don instead of down. So

465
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,159
Speaker 4: it's like a yinser accent. But basically it means is

466
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 4: like white trash from Pittsburgh. So like I happened to

467
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 4: be one of the most uh in my I got

468
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 4: two guys that one grew up on my street. One

469
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 4: once to my same high school. I've been friends with

470
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 4: them since then. We we are the most insurer fucked,

471
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 4: you know. So we we take a lot of pride

472
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 4: in representing that city. And uh, A lot of people

473
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 4: get out of Pittsburgh and they change the way they

474
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,360
Speaker 4: speak because the Insier accent is so ridiculous you could

475
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 4: barely make out most of the words. We still like,

476
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 4: one of our shows is called hammer Don because that

477
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 4: is Pittsburgh the inser for down. So we take a

478
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 4: lot of pride in that. But yeah, like, uh, that's

479
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 4: basically what it means, just like a super Pittsburgh fuck,

480
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 4: which is what he is, which we're lucky to be. Yeah,

481
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:50,120
Speaker 4: stupid city.

482
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 2: You didn't really consider yourself a football player? Why would

483
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 2: you say that at one point?

484
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 4: I mean, compare the people that didn't play in the NFL. Okay,

485
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 4: like I would beat their asset everything football. Okay, I

486
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 4: could probably throw football better than them. I can tackle

487
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 4: better than them, I can catch better than them, I

488
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 4: can kick better than them. I can probably read a

489
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 4: defense better than them. But when you talk about like

490
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 4: NFL guys or like high college football, guys like what

491
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 4: they have to do in the game versus what I

492
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 4: have to do. Oh my god, the day to day

493
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 4: my life is so much better than their, you know,

494
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 4: like the film study, the soreness, the banging the client like,

495
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 4: and then I'm literally getting better at corn hole, you know,

496
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,439
Speaker 4: while they are the way.

497
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 2: I got good? Are you? I I'm playing probably a

498
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 2: couple times a year, but I love it.

499
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 4: But you got to think, like these guys, just you

500
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 4: hear the legendary stories are of the NFL sky watch

501
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 4: more filmmainbody else. This guy's fucking in the meeting room,

502
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 4: you know, watching film while they were doing that, I

503
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 4: was in the locker room throwing corn hole. So like

504
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 4: all these legendary tales, this guy watched five hours of

505
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 4: film a day in between practice and workouts. Those five

506
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 4: hours I was throwing the bags. So I'm a fucking

507
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 4: grinder and everything. Yeah, it did not help. My profession

508
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 4: did not help the team do not do anything. But

509
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 4: it's hard for me to really, you know, like say

510
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 4: that we were anywhere near what every other position is

511
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 4: very much understand. I think every specialist understands it. But

512
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 4: it was my way of making a lot of money

513
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 4: in America. Like I had a very strong leg. I

514
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 4: was a good soccer player. I had ten x the

515
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 4: amount of scholarship for soccer than I did for football.

516
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 4: I played overseas whenever I was a teenager, Like there

517
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 4: had to be a real conversation between my dad and I.

518
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 4: Like to be rich at the time, and that's all

519
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 4: I wanted to be was rich. Which is why I

520
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 4: wanted to be a professional wrestler. Because I turned on

521
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 4: TV on Monday. Those motherfuckers rich. Yep, exactly, professional sports,

522
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 4: those motherfuckers look rich. Comedians those motherfuckers look rich. Show hosts,

523
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 4: those motherfuckers look rich. So like everything I'm doing right

524
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 4: now is only because I wanted to be rich. So like,

525
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 4: what do you want to be when you grow up?

526
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 4: I was asked rich? And all these teachers hated it.

527
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 4: They hated it. Kid next to me, I want to

528
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 4: be a teacher. He's a hero, right to this teacher.

529
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 4: This kid over here wants to be a firefighter like noble.

530
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 4: I appreciate that. Pat, What do you want to be rich?

531
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 2: That is all?

532
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 4: That is, asshole, that is literally, Bengo, I'm the worst

533
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 4: kid of all time. That is you know, so like,

534
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 4: that's kind of how this is all kind of worked out. Yeah,

535
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 4: that is that is my entire life?

536
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: Is it an urban legend about you want some money

537
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: and took yourself to a kicking contest and kind of

538
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: was able to establish us.

539
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 4: So I graduate high school two thousand and five. I

540
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 4: don't know what year you both damn look at your skin,

541
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 4: look at mine.

542
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 2: You know what they say that we don't count. Bro,

543
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,959
Speaker 2: he don't count. Though, he don't count, he don't account.

544
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 4: I'm not saying it, but there's something about you guys

545
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 4: aging a lot better than me. So two thousand and five,

546
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 4: in that time, World Series of Poker was huge. It

547
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 4: was on ESPN. We all watched it. There was a

548
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 4: dude named Chris Moneymaker who was just this basic ass

549
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 4: white who I think like blue collar from Middle America

550
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 4: where he became a millionaire overnight. So pretty much every

551
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 4: community that was like mine. From what I've learned from

552
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 4: growing up, we all started playing poker because we thought

553
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 4: that was gonna be a way for us to make

554
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 4: money and get rich. I became a good poker player.

555
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 4: I'd be playing in my friend's houses. Obviously, It's like

556
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 4: twenty five fifty cent blinds, very small and he's and

557
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 4: everything like that. We all thought we were going to

558
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 4: be the next World Series of Poker Champions. But it

559
00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 4: was a good way for us to make money to

560
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 4: spend for lunch extras things like that. I got a

561
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 4: call like a month before signing day that there was

562
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 4: a kicking camp happening down in Miami, Florida by a

563
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 4: guy named Mike McCabe, one on one kicking. I was

564
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 4: in physics class when the call happened. The guy's number

565
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 4: I still remember to this day because I was so

566
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 4: pumped to receive the call. He called me and basically

567
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 4: said he's putting on a kicking contest in Florida for

568
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 4: all guys that got scholarships. At that point, I was

569
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 4: offered a scholarship to Kent State to be a field

570
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 4: goal kicker because he wanted guys to come compete against

571
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 4: his guys that he coached out in Florida. It was

572
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 4: gonna be a college showcase. It was happening like the

573
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 4: next weekend or something like that. I was pumped to

574
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 4: get invited. I felt like it was a big deal.

575
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 4: He sends over the information it was gonna end up

576
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 4: costing like fifteen hundred bucks. My dad, truck driver went

577
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 4: into working in a warehouse mom secretary, Like, fifteen hundred

578
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 4: bucks in like a four day period is not just

579
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 4: like a feasible thing. Dad, I think told me to

580
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 4: actually go fuck myself, Like, okay, already have a scholarship

581
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 4: to Kent State at the time too. So it's like,

582
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 4: so let me get this straight. I need to come

583
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 4: up with fifteen hundred bucks for you to go to

584
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 4: Miami to kick to potentially get a scholarship when you

585
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 4: already have a fucking scholarship to Kent State. That's not

586
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 4: gonna happen. So I am somebody I think would prove

587
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 4: to be the case throughout the rest of my life. Like,

588
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 4: let me see if I can make this happen or not.

589
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 4: There is a big game happening that I heard about

590
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 4: from one of my friend's dads in the basement of

591
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 4: an Italian restaurant that in a town that we grew

592
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 4: up in was happening on like a Thursday night or

593
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 4: something like that, and had bigger blinds, bigger annies, bigger pots.

594
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 4: And I thought to myself, maybe I'll be able to

595
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 4: go in there and really do this dumb thought, blindly optimistic,

596
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 4: pretty narcissistic as well, now that I think about it.

597
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 4: But I got a one hundred bucks from one of

598
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 4: my friends that has money. I went in there and

599
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 4: I turned it into fourteen hundred bucks. I left at

600
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 4: like three point thirty four am, and I met my

601
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 4: dad when he was getting up, like he was waking up,

602
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 4: and he was like, where the fuck have you been?

603
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 4: And I was like, gave him the money, told him

604
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 4: I kneed one hundred bucks, went down to the camp,

605
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 4: ended up winning the camp, got a scholarship to West

606
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 4: Virginia the next morning in school.

607
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 2: Wow.

608
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, so then I end up going to West Virginia. Yeah, stupid,

609
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 4: dumbest life of all time. It was Jack's Full of

610
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 4: Nines was the full house that I won the pot on,

611
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 4: and I actually had to hold on to my money

612
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 4: for the night. I was up to like eighteen hundred,

613
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 4: but I was by far the youngest person there, and

614
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 4: I didn't want to just get up and bail because

615
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 4: that's not etiquette or smart, you know, in that particular thing.

616
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 4: So I just kind of held on, ended up with

617
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 4: fourteen hundred, and the rest is kind of history. But

618
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 4: like You're talking about one of the dumbest situations of

619
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 4: all time. And if that doesn't happen, do I go

620
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 4: to West Virginia, Do I end up in the NFL?

621
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 4: Probably not? Probably not, which means I'm the luckiest fuck

622
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 4: of all time?

623
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: Right, I mean yeah, I'm about to say I mean

624
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: you say dumb, I say dope. I mean fact that

625
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: you know that story, in the fact, you win it,

626
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: you get a scholarship the next day, you end up,

627
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: you know, going to West Virginia.

628
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 5: Pat White teams right, Oh yeah, he was a monster monster.

629
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:10,719
Speaker 4: Cool dude too.

630
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

631
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 4: Cool Major Harris was before me. Major Harris, great dude,

632
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 4: always around, good times. Major Harris is good times. If

633
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 4: you're in a room with Major Harris, you're gonna be

634
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 4: having a good time. And that's that's the vibes that

635
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 4: our West Virginia team had, though, like Pat, Pat White,

636
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 4: Steve Slayton, then Noel Devine came later. We had a

637
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 4: really tight group, like and Pat White was like the

638
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 4: perfect leader.

639
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: Penny Pitchers, Penny Pitchers of beer.

640
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 4: Come on, man, back in the day, do you know

641
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 4: you know chasers, you know, Chasers and Dreams. That was

642
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 4: the name of the bar club Z is another place

643
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 4: I used to frequent. There was a place called Lazy Lizard.

644
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 4: I got out loans when I was in college. I

645
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 4: was on full scholarship, which is absurd to kick a

646
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 4: football the So my parents we've talked about this. Not

647
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 4: a lot of money and there's no nil back in

648
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 4: the day, not that I would have got in it anyways,

649
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 4: but like there was nothing. So you get that per

650
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 4: diem or whatever. It was like eight hundred bucks for

651
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 4: the month.

652
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: But made you feel good though he was supposed to

653
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: stretch it out, but that shit was going on like

654
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: three or four.

655
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 4: Days, and rent is happening. What are we even doing?

656
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 4: So I got out these loans at like twenty two

657
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 4: percent interesting forty thousand dollars and loans just to have

658
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 4: a good time, and I just to have a good time.

659
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 4: And I did and I did, and I should have

660
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 4: focused more on kicking balls in Morgantown. But boy, I

661
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 4: had life blast there.

662
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: I think college. I mean Jack didn't get a chance

663
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: to go to college. I felt like college. I had

664
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: a blast in the NBA, but college was a fucking blast,

665
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: great time. Loved it so much, fun, loved it. Passing

666
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: out drunk in Westwood and going getting free drinks at

667
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: bars and just having the run of the little college.

668
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: It was dope.

669
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 4: I didn't know you were living like that.

670
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: It went hard, smoking.

671
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: Weed, passing out, having pulled Jirwan out of gutters, and

672
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: we play Syracuse the number one team in the country

673
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: on ABC the next morning.

674
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: Like unbelievable.

675
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 4: Tell you he said, hell, yeah, that was the old days.

676
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, right before cameras, Like, no, you know, it was

677
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 5: just if you're there, you saw it.

678
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: It's not It's an urban legend.

679
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 4: Everything else is. Remember, I've heard a lot of stories

680
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 4: about me, and I'm like, I don't know if that's

681
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 4: how that went, but if that's how you remember it, sweet,

682
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 4: probably that is. But that was I just thought to myself,

683
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 4: if I don't make it to the NFL, I'll be

684
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 4: in debt like all these other motherfuckers in college. And

685
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 4: if I do make to the NFL, hopefully I'll be

686
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 4: able to pay this off. And uh, yeah, it was

687
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 4: money well spent. I think money.

688
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: Well when did when did the NFL be you know,

689
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: really start thinking like I can I can do this

690
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: for a living.

691
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 4: First time I kicked the football, I kicked sixty five

692
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 4: year field goal.

693
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: Oh ship, Yeah, really kicked what.

694
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 4: I've had a cannon? This thing actual that leg? Yeah,

695
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 4: because I didn't play. I think a big part of

696
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 4: a lot of things, like the reason why I'm friends

697
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 4: with Stack and the reason why I know a lot

698
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 4: of people is because I was so fucking horrendous at

699
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 4: video games. So like, I'm a terrible video game player.

700
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 4: My brother got all the talent, like I am so bad.

701
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 4: So I would go out, like, hey, do you want

702
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 4: to go do this? Yeah, like where other guys might

703
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 4: stay home and play video games. Hey, you want to

704
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 4: go to Sunset?

705
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:09,959
Speaker 2: Uh?

706
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do want to go to Sunset. Do you

707
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 4: want to go to Cloud nine?

708
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: Yes?

709
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 4: I do want to go to Cloud nine? Yeah? Like

710
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 4: do you want to go to all these places? Yes?

711
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 4: Because I didn't play video games. So when I was

712
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 4: growing up, I didn't play video games. I have add

713
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 4: So I literally would either be out and about with

714
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 4: everybody else or I would just kick a soccer ball

715
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 4: against the side of my house for like hours and

716
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 4: hours and hours. And I was infatuating with having the

717
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 4: strongest leg. So when I was a kid, I actually

718
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 4: kicked a soccer ball broke a goalie's fucking arm, and

719
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 4: I thought that was the coolest thing of all time. Like,

720
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 4: I thought that was really cool. And then I saw

721
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 4: David Beckham in the World Cup. I think he kicked

722
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 4: the ball like ninety some miles an hour. They talked

723
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 4: about and I was like, that's sweet. Like I want

724
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,479
Speaker 4: to be able to kick the ball as hard as

725
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 4: I can, So I literally just would kick the ball

726
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 4: against the side of my house hours hours, hours, thump thump, thump, thumph,

727
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 4: break a fucking window. Tim McAfee's pissed, Sally mcfee's man,

728
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 4: let's fix the window. Let's kick the ball again, you know,

729
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 4: like that is that is literally what I did. But

730
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 4: like soccer was supposed to be the thing. Soccer was

731
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 4: supposed to be a thing. So then whenever I like

732
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 4: I won the punt passing kick, Yeah, and I murdered

733
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 4: this ball. I just murdered it. So then I went

734
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 4: to a football field. We had soccer practice and there

735
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 4: was a kicking camp happening. And I grew up in

736
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 4: an NFL town in Pittsburgh, and anybody that's fan of

737
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 4: football and those kickers are nerds, you know, So like

738
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 4: at that time, I go give me one of those balls, Nerd,

739
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 4: like actually send it to the kickers that they were there,

740
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 4: and I just my swing was just a natural swing

741
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 4: for it, and I kicked like sixty yarder. I think

742
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 4: the first time I kicked the ball, and it was

743
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 4: at that moment everybody was like there might be some

744
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 4: business in this one here, and that really changed everything. So,

745
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 4: like I literally the first time I kicked the ball

746
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 4: was when I was like, hey, we could probably make

747
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 4: a little money off. This had to get real lucky.

748
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of luck goes into it. Everything, a

749
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 5: lot of luck goes into it.

750
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: Right, seventh round draft pick, but you go to an

751
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 1: amazing Colts team, Peyton Manning, Reggy, Wayne Joseph Died, Dwight Freemy.

752
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 1: What are your what's your first NFL memory?

753
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 4: So I know I did have a punt when I

754
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 4: got drafted to punt.

755
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 2: You got that's right, Yeah, So I got.

756
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 4: Drafted to punt. In college. We did this like Azsie

757
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 4: punt where you would run. I would run to the

758
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 4: right and then I would like just hit it and

759
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 4: then it would roll on the ground. So it was

760
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 4: like cheating pretty much. You know, they wouldn't be able

761
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 4: to return it, you just kind of stole it. NFL

762
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 4: punting is you have to like punt it ship in

763
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 4: the air, right, So I think the first memory I

764
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 4: had was I had to learn how to punt, right.

765
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 4: I just got drafted in the NFL to do this.

766
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 4: I got to learn that. And then as soon as

767
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 4: I got in the locker room, I just like how

768
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 4: cool everybody was, Like you listed off all those dudes

769
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 4: right there, legends, those are all absolute legends. And literally

770
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 4: from day one, all those people were cool with me

771
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 4: and nice to me. And I'm a punter and I

772
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 4: was not good like and they saw me in like

773
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 4: training camp, in a rookie camp. I was not good

774
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 4: at punting balls. And Hunter Smith was the punter here

775
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 4: and he was here for like eleven years, be loved

776
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 4: by the city, be loved by the locker room, and

777
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 4: they cut him for me, so and I didn't know

778
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 4: how to punt. He's super religious, he's in a like

779
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 4: a Christian music band, like sounds like Jack exactly exactly

780
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 4: like him. We're talking polar opposite human of me pretty much.

781
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 4: And everybody was cool. So I just think my first

782
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 4: memory was walking in the locker room thinking I was

783
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 4: going to be scared to death and everybody being cool.

784
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 4: I think that's probably it.

785
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning off the field obviously kind of.

786
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jack was telling me stories back in the day

787
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 1: about paying I was like, Peyton Manning.

788
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 2: He's like, you ever go to.

789
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 4: Ten roof with him? You ever been in ten roof

790
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 4: with him?

791
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 7: No?

792
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 4: Not ten roof? What's this place done?

793
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 2: Here?

794
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 4: Slipper noodle? No? I mean he just like, I don't

795
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 4: think he knows he's Peyton man That was the.

796
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 2: Problem the story I told him. That's why. Yeah, he

797
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 2: does not walk around like he's Payton.

798
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 4: In And since he's like six or seven years old,

799
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 4: they've been telling him he's gonna be an NFL guy.

800
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 4: You know. They have like a rebook commercial from when

801
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 4: him and Eli were kids basically say like these are

802
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 4: the next guys. Somehow he's just remained a human. I

803
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 4: don't know how he's remained a human. Now in the building,

804
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 4: he's quarterback, GM owner, coach if he wants to be,

805
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 4: and there will be times where he will exercise his

806
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 4: right to do all of those things if he thinks

807
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 4: it's in the best interest of the team. But like

808
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 4: off the field, as a teammate. He took a lot

809
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 4: of pride in being a human, you know, like he

810
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 4: invited me to a lot of things. When we're talking

811
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 4: about like drinking beers with the boys, like he was

812
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 4: about that, like and it was. He took care of me.

813
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 4: He helped me out a lot business wise. He's helped

814
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 4: me out a lot. He's given me a lot of

815
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 4: opportunities too, So like I am forever and then yeah,

816
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 4: shut up, massive fucking head though, like that, you know

817
00:37:58,960 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 4: what I mean?

818
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 2: Five huge g Oh my goodness.

819
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 4: He has no idea who he is. That is the

820
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 4: that's cool though, Yeah great. I went on a golfing

821
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 4: trip with him like two years and I like to

822
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 4: think that I run my own business. And obviously he

823
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 4: has like ten businesses. You know, he's got some whiskey,

824
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 4: he's got omaha, he's coaching his kids games, he's doing

825
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 4: all these things. We went on a golf trip and

826
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 4: he invited me on, which is really cool. And you

827
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 4: weren't allowed to use your phone at this particular place

828
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 4: where you're golfing at Okay, So as soon as we

829
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 4: got to like the afterwards, when you have your phone,

830
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 4: he had like sixty emails or whatever. And for me,

831
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 4: I had like probably foty emails as well for business stuff,

832
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 4: and I scrolled through him, I'm like, God, they really

833
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 4: want something that will email me again, you know, like

834
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna mark these as red. I'm out of here.

835
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 4: He responded to every fucking email. You're talking about being

836
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 4: diligent in every company that he has. We're talking hands on,

837
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 4: thinking about everything, like he is just a robot. He's

838
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 4: an alien. He might not be from here, and very

839
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 4: very lucky that.

840
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: I got to be honest. Yeah, absolutely, how did wrestling

841
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: come about?

842
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 4: It's awesome, isn't it. Oh man, there's a bunch of

843
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 4: marks over here. I think I saw brought a couple

844
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 4: uh wrestling marks. I'm wrestling mark. Yeah. I hate those

845
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 4: people because they play on like our fans too, you know, yeah,

846
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 4: because I don't like to charge my fans for anything.

847
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 4: Like I try to make sure my show. My show

848
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 4: is free. Like we haven't even sold tickets since COVID

849
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 4: for people, because we don't want people to feel obligated

850
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 4: to spend money. I don't promote our merch store ever,

851
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 4: because I don't want people to feel obligated to spend

852
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:39,959
Speaker 4: money like just their time and their uh like thought

853
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 4: that they'll support us by watching is enough for me.

854
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 4: So like these autograph hounds, like because I don't sign

855
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff, like they'll charge the shit out

856
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 4: of my fans. My fans are buying, I'm thinking that

857
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 4: it's good. Like so I feel bad, I feel torn,

858
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 4: like I appreciate these people, but also like they're working

859
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 4: in this whole thing. The wrestling world has the most

860
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 4: amount of of like hustlers, I'll say around it. Yeah,

861
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 4: I'm a wrestling Mark grew up as a wrestling fan.

862
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 4: We talked about Monday Night Ros, the Monday Night Wars

863
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 4: like it was everything that I liked. I liked talking shit,

864
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 4: I liked I liked athleticism, I liked the drama. I

865
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 4: liked the comedy. I also grew up in the Attitude

866
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 4: era with Stone Cold and The Rock. The Rock being

867
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 4: back right now is awesome, absolutely awesome. I drank beers

868
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 4: with Stone Cold last year in Dallas. Shout out to Texas,

869
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 4: like I had a I've been living a dream. But

870
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 4: it literally just all comes from me watching as a kid,

871
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 4: being a diehard fan and continue to watch for my

872
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 4: whole life. So anytime I get to do anything with him,

873
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 4: I'm pumped my move. I punt, I punp people. I

874
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,479
Speaker 4: punt people, pump the soul out of it. I punt

875
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 4: the soul out.

876
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: Any chance we'll see you in WrestleMania in Philly. I

877
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: don't know, dude.

878
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 4: So I got a lot of science pumping through me

879
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 4: right now. You know, when you retire, I said, hey,

880
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 4: I want that rich guy stuff. You know, what are

881
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 4: these rich guys taking that I see on Instagram? That

882
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 4: are all? You know? Don't get fat? Like, I don't

883
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 4: know how it works because with my particular build, if

884
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 4: I eat pizza four times, fat ass gay fat ass

885
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 4: in the football season is long and every year I've

886
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 4: gained like fifty to sixty pounds since retiring. So this

887
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 4: year I'm like, I'm gonna get on the rich guy

888
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 4: stuff that cheats and keeps me thin, not as full

889
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 4: as the Ozempic move. But I'm not against it.

890
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: I will.

891
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 4: I will head to that route in a couple of

892
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 4: years if I If so, I'm on a bunch of stuff.

893
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: Is it long term? Anything? Long term? Do you understand?

894
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 2: Like the outcome of that.

895
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 4: Not a clue?

896
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 7: You know?

897
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 4: Like, am I gonna die.

898
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 2: Who knows?

899
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 4: Probably, they say everybody is. But is this one gonna

900
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 4: take years off my life? Maybe? But what's that gonna

901
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 4: happen anyways? We don't know. You know, I've always said

902
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 4: two if I have something that's going to kill me,

903
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 4: that we might be able to have a cure for someday.

904
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 4: I would like to be frozen until we find the cure.

905
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 4: Bring my ass back twenty one, twenty twenty years in there.

906
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 4: Think about me getting dropped in that society. I'll be

907
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 4: fucking pumped up about it. Well, that being said, I

908
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 4: don't think I could pass any drum tests for a

909
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 4: WrestleMania Yeah, because of drum test people. So that's real good.

910
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 4: Oh yeah yeah, And I'm on everything I think they're

911
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 4: testing for.

912
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 2: They tested about it, everything but the right shit. Yeah?

913
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 2: Oh man?

914
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: Uh ultimate goal in this media space, I mean you

915
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: pretty much have it, you know, doing what you want

916
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: to do, and you brought your people along, which we

917
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 1: always love and respect.

918
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: But what's your ultimate goal in the space? You don't

919
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 2: know yet. Enjoin it as it goes, I'll enjoin it.

920
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I have no idea. Like every

921
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 4: step that we've hit is cool, you know, like the

922
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 4: next step is cool, Like I mean I negotiated a

923
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 4: one hundred and some million dollar contracts, right, that was cool?

924
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 4: That was really cool. Yeah, we get to clap, but

925
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 4: that was like a cool moment that I could have

926
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 4: never fathomed in my entire life. And then you talk

927
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 4: about the boys like I gave them backpacks with like

928
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a me like that's

929
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 4: a that's cool. That's a cool thing that I could

930
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 4: have never Yeah, and we're running like a fifteen thank you,

931
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 4: thank you, we we we we we wait. But like

932
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I have no idea, because who

933
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 4: knows what the media space looks like a year from now?

934
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 4: Who knows what our show looks like a year from now.

935
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 4: Everybody talks about being a chess player, chess player, chess player,

936
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 4: Like I'm checkers, man, I'm just trying to get over

937
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 4: you get to the next one and then king me

938
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 4: bitch right at the end, and I'm coming back.

939
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 3: But but but perhaps to you, you are helping dictate

940
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 3: what is going to be in the future. You're a

941
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 3: big part of what is going to be, so you

942
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 3: help you helping dictate what this space is going to be.

943
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: You think you ever realized that in the moment, You know,

944
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: we don't, you know, you guys don't realize it. We

945
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: don't realize it that we're shaping what's next. Yes, you are,

946
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: you too, I should not be, but you are.

947
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 3: But you are, and and all bullshit aside. He just

948
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 3: said you and you know you are. You shanning out

949
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 3: the biggest faces in this right now. So you need

950
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 3: to accept that, bro, because your hard work puts you

951
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 3: and so and we when we giving your props because

952
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 3: we in the space too, but we've seen what you've

953
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 3: done and what you're doing.

954
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 4: Of course, I really really genuinely appreciate that. Now. Granted,

955
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 4: do you just put like, I don't know what, a

956
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 4: lot of pressure.

957
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can have it. You can handle it,

958
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 2: you can handle it.

959
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 4: No, I appreciate that, and I do think every decision

960
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 4: that I make, and I'm not saying I'm making decisions

961
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 4: for anybody else, I am making decisions for our company

962
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 4: to continue to survive and hopefully other companies that are

963
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 4: like ours in the future to be able to do it.

964
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 4: You know, That's what the decisions are happening. But I

965
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 4: also think like there's a lot of things that if

966
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 4: anybody else was in my spot, they would be doing

967
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 4: the exact same thing. Like there's a lot of common

968
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 4: sense shit that just doesn't make any sense that is

969
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 4: happening in the sports meeking bullshit.

970
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 3: Common sense. That's my way. They know, that's my word.

971
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 3: I'm first team all common sense. The world has lost that,

972
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 3: but go ahead, Well, not just.

973
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 4: The world, people that are in positions of power in

974
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 4: a lot of businesses, more specifically for this particular conversation,

975
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 4: the sports media world, there's a lot of idiots that

976
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 4: are making a lot of decisions. And those idiots made

977
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 4: a lot of money for a long time doing something

978
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 4: in one particular fashion, so they're going to hang.

979
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: On to that for as long as they possibly can.

980
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 4: And there is other stuff happening very quickly, and tomorrow

981
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 4: is meeting today at a rate that I think we

982
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 4: all are expecting. But I think there's a relationship between

983
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 4: what used to be in the future that can still coexist.

984
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 4: And I think from my standpoint, I have tried to

985
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 4: extend an olive branch to the olds, you know, to

986
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 4: say like, hey, this is what we've seen to be success,

987
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 4: but what they have done in return is like not

988
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 4: the case. So whenever we do break through on something,

989
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 4: I do take a lot of pride in the fact that, like, Okay,

990
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 4: somebody else is probably going to be able to say

991
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 4: that this is how it should be because now there's

992
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 4: a precedent. But I'm not saying I'm the only one

993
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 4: that's done this. Like obviously, like Joe Rogan's deal with

994
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 4: Spotify huge, like that was fantastic. You know, even like

995
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 4: Mike Florio with Pro Football Talk, he sold his company

996
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 4: like two different times, both the ESPN and then the NBC.

997
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 4: Like there's a lot Barstool Sports. What they've been able

998
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 4: to do in the business that they've been able to run.

999
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 4: It's like there's a lot of people before me. So

1000
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 4: whenever people are like, hey, you're doing this, you're doing that,

1001
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 4: it's like I appreciate that, and I do feel like

1002
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 4: I've made some gains in some places that needed it,

1003
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 4: But like it's inevitable. It is inevitable, and we're lucky

1004
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 4: to be here at the time that it is.

1005
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: Us through the journey quickly, you know, Barstool Fan duel

1006
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: and then eventually to where you're at with ESPN now

1007
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: because like I said, you went places but were able

1008
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: to keep it yours and we're able to get up

1009
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: and move and.

1010
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 2: Get other deals in the process. But talk to us

1011
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 2: about the journey of those three companies.

1012
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 4: So whenever I was playing, I followed along with barstool

1013
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 4: because I was a fan of Big Cat obviously followed

1014
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 4: Caleb and Dave and Hank, and I don't think PFT

1015
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 4: had joined there yet, but I had known a PFT

1016
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 4: and his big brain. And you know, if you're an

1017
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 4: internet like I had a merch store or podcast, I

1018
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 4: was doing that. I was a digital company. So I

1019
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 4: was watching what they were doing. And whenever I retired

1020
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 4: or was going to retire, none of those networks wanted me.

1021
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 4: So like Dave was the first one to really reach

1022
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 4: out and be like, hey, we just got an investment

1023
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 4: from the Churning Group.

1024
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: We have some money.

1025
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 4: When you retire, we'd love to talk, and we kind

1026
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 4: of chit chatted. I didn't want to move to New York.

1027
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 4: I wanted to stay in Indianapolis because I thought I

1028
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 4: had a good connection here or good network here. I

1029
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 4: loved living here. I don't like I don't want to

1030
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 4: live in a big city, Like I really wanted to

1031
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 4: stay here. So we had like a satellite company almost,

1032
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 4: and I got to learn and watch while still running

1033
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 4: our own thing. And then whenever we broke off, it

1034
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 4: was like all right, here we go. And I'd been

1035
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 4: running my own company and my own show, and Fandor

1036
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 4: just became our exclusive sports book. So they didn't own

1037
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 4: my company, they didn't own the show. They were just

1038
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 4: our sports book. Just like if COR's Laute was our beer,

1039
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 4: they would be our exclusive beer. Fanda was our exclusive

1040
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 4: sports book. But with that relationship, because of the people

1041
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 4: we knew over there, we're able to create promos and

1042
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 4: do things and kind of learn about that world and

1043
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 4: learn about marketing and and I just got to the

1044
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 4: point where I wanted my life to be easier. Like

1045
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 4: we're booking, we're selling the ads, we're creating. If we

1046
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 4: want to do a live show like this, we would

1047
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 4: have to be the ones that would book the local

1048
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 4: camera people, the local hands to build it. Like I

1049
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 4: just kind of got it to a point where I

1050
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 4: was I think we all were sick of doing all

1051
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 4: of the bullshit. They wanted a little bit of help,

1052
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 4: so decided I'm going to take the show to a

1053
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 4: network and ended up getting a deal done with Jimmy

1054
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 4: Pataro and Bob Iger and uh, you know, licensees show

1055
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 4: to them, and they've helped out immensely. I mean the

1056
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 4: access in the production, Like we were alive in ten

1057
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 4: different college towns. That would have cost me, I don't know,

1058
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 4: maybe forty hours of fucking work, but ESPN just kind

1059
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 4: of took care of it. It's like they've made my

1060
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 4: life easier. They've made our access a lot easier. And yeah,

1061
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 4: I still retain one hundred percent rights and creative freedom

1062
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 4: and ownership on my show, but like they're an incredible

1063
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 4: partner and I'm lucky to be there. There's a lot

1064
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 4: of middle management there though that well, I mean, I

1065
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 4: mean not love us.

1066
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 2: We don't have to even speak names.

1067
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: But you spoke a name and called out someone a

1068
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: suit that you felt like was kind of yeah for

1069
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: real we yeah, I mean the courage to do that,

1070
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 1: and you got a lot of you already had respect,

1071
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: but even more respect for doing that. Has there been

1072
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: any backlash, any conversation, like, because like you said, there

1073
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: is a give and take, and it's given and a

1074
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: tug between what people hung their hats on for years

1075
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: and made a lot of money, and what is coming

1076
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: and what it's going to be.

1077
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1078
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 4: I don't know if there was any conversations that happened

1079
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 4: behind uh obviously, So you know, like I thought that

1080
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 4: was a warning shot to that guy. You know, I

1081
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 4: didn't even think that was yeah, because I'm the I'm

1082
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 4: the executive producer of my show. I report directly to

1083
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 4: Jimmy and Bob, So I'm not really viewing anybody as

1084
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 4: I I say everybody, like pat calls out his boss,

1085
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 4: I don't got a motherfucking boss. What do we know?

1086
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 4: Like what do we Jim Pear, we talk to Jimmy

1087
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 4: Patarro or Bob Iger, Like, is that who we're talking about?

1088
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 4: Because those are people that could technically be described as

1089
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 4: my boss, and like Burke Magnus as well, and have

1090
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,919
Speaker 4: a great relationship with him. I think even Burke would

1091
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 4: say like, yeah, like we have a good relate, like

1092
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 4: we are talking like this as opposed to like this,

1093
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 4: And so that was just a warning shot to I

1094
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 4: thought a person that was you know at the same

1095
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 4: which is hilarious because he's the former president of the

1096
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 4: place I guess a lot of people were had a

1097
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 4: lot of fear of them. I did not, like, I

1098
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 4: do not have I that guy. That guy left me

1099
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 4: sitting in his office for forty five minutes. No showed

1100
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 4: me when I was supposed to have a meeting with him,

1101
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 4: right when five years ago, six years ago whatever show,

1102
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 4: No showed Yeah, wow, yeah, so you remember that, what's that?

1103
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 4: And you remember that it's things a fucking elephant Brandy? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1104
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 4: I got everybody's yeah. He also he also banned all

1105
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 4: my friends from coming on my show, so there was, uh,

1106
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 4: there was a ban of ESPN talent on my show

1107
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 4: on YouTube that came directly from him, which so much

1108
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 4: show that I started a hashtag ESPN stinks. The day

1109
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 4: that everybody got banned from show, you know, only trended

1110
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 4: for like eight nine hours or something like that. And

1111
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 4: then that's the next day is when I met Jimmy Patarro.

1112
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 4: Jimmy Patarro called me and said like, hey, how do

1113
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 4: we you know, what's the deal? And I told him

1114
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 4: about you guys are banning my friends from coming on

1115
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 4: my show. Matt Hasselback, who worked at ESPN, Jeff Pass

1116
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 4: and worked at the ESPN. Dan Orlovski worked at ESPN.

1117
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 4: All these people that I've known since before they got

1118
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 4: into ESPN, Like they're not even allowed to come on

1119
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 4: my podcast or whatever or my YouTube show. You guys

1120
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 4: banned it. So like that guy was not a fan

1121
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 4: of me or our operation for a long time. So

1122
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 4: then whenever ESPN signs us and he runs sports Center

1123
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 4: and our show is now in place of sports Center

1124
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 4: at noon. I'm a fan of sports Center. We all

1125
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 4: watched Sports Center I grew up on. But there became

1126
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 4: like a war almost from behind scenes from like sports

1127
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 4: Center people and like people that have been in ESPN

1128
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 4: a long time against us coming in and take in

1129
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 4: their jobs and all this other shit. And I didn't

1130
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 4: see it like that. We were like pumped that we

1131
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,720
Speaker 4: made it to the big leagues, Like hey, I'm pumped,

1132
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 4: We're on the Worldwide Leap, Like that's how I viewed it.

1133
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 4: And this is what I'm talking about, playing a checkers player,

1134
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 4: like get the ESPN deal done. I'm like, this is awesome,

1135
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 4: Like we joined the ESPN team, so lucky to be here.

1136
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 4: We get access, and then immediately it's like this guy sucks.

1137
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 4: This guy's ruining ESPN and it's not coming from people

1138
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 4: outside of ESPN. It was coming from people within ESPN,

1139
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 4: and I did not expect that at all. So I

1140
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 4: immediately like, okay, I'm in war, Like that's what if

1141
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 4: that's what we're doing. We're in war. And then once

1142
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 4: you start learning about how shit's going behind scenes, things

1143
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 4: that are being said to people, things that are being leaked,

1144
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 4: the timing in which they're being leaked, it's like, oh,

1145
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 4: they're trying to kill me, Like they're trying to They're

1146
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 4: trying to make our show impossible to advertise with, They're

1147
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 4: trying to make sure people don't watch our show. So like,

1148
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 4: as I started learning that, I'm like, all right, well

1149
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 4: that's not gonna I don't know how this has gone

1150
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 4: in the past with other people, but yeah, this particular

1151
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 4: white trash kid from Pittsburgh, like, hey, suits, this ain't

1152
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 4: this is not how this is going to go. So

1153
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 4: that was just a warning shot I did that wasn't

1154
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 4: even like supposed to be U And then obviously it

1155
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 4: goes big and I heard from this is no lie,

1156
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 4: no less than like forty people that have worked at

1157
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 4: ESPN or used to work at ESPN, and they were like,

1158
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 4: thank you for saying what you said, and I was like, well,

1159
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 4: if I really crafted a statement about that, I mean,

1160
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 4: I could have said something much better. But I also

1161
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 4: did not appreciate the thing I didn't think about once again,

1162
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 4: Checkers player. I did not expect the backlash afterwards. Like

1163
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 4: Burke Magnus just became the president of Content at ESPN.

1164
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 4: I think he has a great vision for what the

1165
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 4: future of sports media should look like. He was a

1166
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 4: big part of us joining ESPN. People were attacking Burke

1167
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 4: because it made him look sloppy because it's inside the building.

1168
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 4: People are attacking Jimmy because it looked sloppy. And that

1169
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 4: was something that I did not think about. I was

1170
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 4: very apologetic about, like I didn't mean to take down

1171
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 4: my allies or make allies look bad in the whole thing.

1172
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 4: But I, Jenny only did not expect it to get

1173
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 4: as big as it did, because I didn't think I

1174
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 4: said anything that was like that crazy or like I'm

1175
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 4: a pretty good talker, you know, I'm a pretty good

1176
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 4: promo cutter. Like if I really wanted to sew motherfucker

1177
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 4: down like I thought, I could have done it in

1178
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 4: a much bigger way. And I did not. So I

1179
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 4: was actually pretty proud of myself. I was like, look

1180
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 4: at me, I'm an adult. And then it got loud.

1181
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 4: I'm an ad I'm an adult. It got real loud,

1182
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 4: got real loud. But yeah, that'll be me forever, and

1183
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 4: it'll be a gift in a curse.

1184
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 1: We appreciate and respect it. Right here, quick hitters, finishing

1185
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 1: up the show. First thing to come to mind. Top

1186
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: five special team players in NFL history.

1187
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 4: Top five.

1188
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 2: Okay, so I got to have my guy on here.

1189
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:51,439
Speaker 4: We got Adam Vinitari on there. Okay, we'll have Justin

1190
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 4: Tucker on there, Brandon Slater on there from the Patriots,

1191
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 4: Devin Hester.

1192
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 2: Chicago, be on there.

1193
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 4: Who's yours? Who's your guy?

1194
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 2: Let you go. I'm gonna let you go. Five Dante Hall,

1195
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 2: Bill Bates.

1196
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, Bill Bates talking. But I will put Bill

1197
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 4: I do not, but he's on my list.

1198
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 2: He was the animal specialist, the cowboy.

1199
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agreed. Bill Bates. Was that dog putting Bill

1200
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 4: Bates at five? Yeah, Bill Bates. Now he's a monster.

1201
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 4: Bill Bates is a monster. That guy when he was

1202
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 4: on the field, man, he was the guy. But then

1203
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 4: like Shane Leckler's in there as well because he was

1204
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 4: so good. Mike Ciphers, Yeah, there's a bunch. There's a

1205
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 4: bunch of men. Hell yeah, congrats of the Hall of Fame.

1206
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, Julius Peppers made as well.

1207
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 4: Yes, Freenie made it all. Reggie needs make it next year. Yeah,

1208
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 4: Vinnie's up next year. First time.

1209
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 2: Yes, agreed, dream interview our guest on your show that

1210
00:56:59,320 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 2: you would like to have.

1211
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 4: M So Roger Goodell is scared to come on the show, Okay,

1212
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 4: but yeah he has never said he's scared. But that's

1213
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 4: just my whole angle. Hopefully I'll be able to bait

1214
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 4: him into coming on the show.

1215
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: You know.

1216
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 4: I had to start openly calling him out saying he

1217
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 4: was scared because he was doing a lot of interviews.

1218
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 4: He's going on a lot of shows. We put a

1219
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 4: request in like every week for the last like five

1220
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 4: years to have him on the show. And Brian McCarthy,

1221
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 4: I think, is the nfl PR guy. He knows of us,

1222
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 4: you know. So Roger Goodell coming on the show would

1223
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 4: be good. But that's going to be in person, you know,

1224
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 4: because you know, we have some questions. But Roger Goodell

1225
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 4: is like the greatest speaker of all time, which is

1226
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 4: always my thing to him, like, hey, don't be scared,

1227
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,439
Speaker 4: rog don't be scared. You're a guy that can dance.

1228
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 4: But I have great admiration for the work that he's

1229
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 4: done as a businessman for the NFL and what he's

1230
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 4: been able to guide the NFL through. So I think

1231
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 4: the conversation with Roger Gadell would be dope and elon musk. Yeah,

1232
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 4: I mean that would be because I think he's an

1233
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 4: actual alien. That's a whole other conversation, definitely is that

1234
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 4: motherfucker's not from here. He even builds his own rocket

1235
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 4: ships to go to space. He's doing it right in

1236
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 4: front of us, our face. He's doing it right in

1237
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:11,439
Speaker 4: front of our face.

1238
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1239
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 4: I was wondering if we could do that, guad and

1240
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 4: plug a chip in your fucking brain.

1241
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 2: No, no, you can't.

1242
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 4: And he's like, well, I got these rocket ships to

1243
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 4: go to space. It's like okay. And then he's digging

1244
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 4: tunnels better than anybody in history, right, better than anybody

1245
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 4: in his making.

1246
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 5: The Mexican drug cartels look like child's play.

1247
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 4: Hey, what's his face getting out of that jail hopping

1248
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 4: on a motors? They said, he hopped on a motorcycle

1249
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 4: with lighting down the entire tunnel.

1250
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 2: As they passed the light, they bust them so nobody

1251
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 2: couldn't follow them. Somebody could follow, You're right.

1252
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 4: I mean there's some great tunnel builders out there, Childhood Crush,

1253
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 4: you know, Kelly Kapowski. They probably saved by the door.

1254
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 4: I think I watched saved by the bell's see. I

1255
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 4: think that's yeah.

1256
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: I think that would probably be Tiffany Everythis that's her name, right, see,

1257
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, yeah, she say by the back and

1258
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: then she went to Beverly Hills nine or two.

1259
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 4: And no, see, I didn't make the transition.

1260
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 2: I'm not ashamed. It wanted to be one. I didn't.

1261
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 2: He tried out for you know what.

1262
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 4: Screech made transition into slinging dick that rest in peace

1263
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 4: to the screechsts, very dead, very dead dick resting piece

1264
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 4: he did though, That was his thing.

1265
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 8: Great transition, not like Drake, but a different, you know,

1266
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 8: different level. She scores like, dude, oh goodness, what's your

1267
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 8: guilty pleasure?

1268
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 2: Pat watching people slang dick? Yeah?

1269
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 4: That was that Drake thing was messed up, wasn't it.

1270
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 2: I didn't see it I'm yes, you did.

1271
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 4: It was in everybody's algorithm like that.

1272
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 5: By the time I saw it was blurred out, So

1273
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 5: I'm glad I missed the beginning to well.

1274
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 4: It was a massive blur, is what we're That's what

1275
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 4: we're talking about, Dick, that your algorithm is taking care

1276
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 4: of you, because I want to let you know. I

1277
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 4: woke up to take my morning ship, just basic morning ship.

1278
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 4: That's all I'm doing. It's going on the internet, you know,

1279
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 4: open it up. Well, I guess I don't think he

1280
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 4: did well after watching a video. I mean he probably did.

1281
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 2: I mean that was that's just to strategic.

1282
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 4: Anyways, the internet's wild right now, guilty pleasure. I don't honestly,

1283
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 4: I I uh, I work. I don't know that kind

1284
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 4: of it's kind of bumming me out now now I'm

1285
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 4: thinking about my hobbies and ship. I don't really have

1286
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 4: any I should pick them up. I don't know.

1287
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: Just work, man, what's the grind? What's your work week? Like,

1288
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 1: what's a what's an average Monday through Friday? How many

1289
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 1: hours you putting in a week?

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Speaker 4: I don't know. And calling it work as a joke too,

1291
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 4: by the way, but you get it, like showing up

1292
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 4: and trying to profit off of stuff. The I'll wake up.

1293
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 4: You know, got a baby, so wake up when she's

1294
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 4: up like six thirty ish, see baby for forty five

1295
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 4: minutes or so, hang out, let her know I exist,

1296
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 4: then head into Thunderdome, get a workout in. Then I

1297
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 4: probably have like three zoom calls in the morning, depending

1298
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 4: upon future ad deals, maybe scheming with companies that were

1299
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 4: already with and everything like that. Then we're planning show,

1300
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 4: and the show plan is just like group text pretty much.

1301
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 4: We don't have a bloc, B block, C block. It's

1302
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 4: a three hour promo. We're just three hours of shit

1303
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 4: talking and anything that shows up in our group text

1304
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 4: could come up on the show. So like the boys

1305
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 4: just kind of have to know like to be on

1306
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 4: our show, and it's why I'm so thankful for our guys.

1307
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 4: Like anything that shows up in the group text, which

1308
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 4: is active all day all night, like could come up

1309
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 4: like if I just in my head, oh wait, didn't

1310
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 4: I see something, and then boom, We're right into a

1311
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 4: conversation about it. So that's like probably the last two

1312
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 4: hours before we go live at noon noon to three,

1313
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 4: three thirty four. We got the show, probably a couple

1314
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 4: of meetings afterwards, and I'm out of there like six,

1315
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 4: six thirty seven. Then the game days on Saturday during

1316
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 4: the football season, and then Monday Night raw Is on

1317
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 4: Monday nights. After the show, I'll fly to wherever Monday

1318
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 4: Night raw Is, fly back to Indie for show Tuesday morning,

1319
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 4: and then kind of put that on repeat.

1320
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 2: You know, his home here is homew Yeah, okay, everything's

1321
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 2: based out here. I love it.

1322
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't you know. I drove down here. We're

1323
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 4: supposed to take twenty seven minutes. It took like an

1324
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 4: hour because the snowstorm.

1325
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 2: Change a little bit. Yeah, we appreciate you making time.

1326
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 4: No, but like this is when this happens, you think

1327
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 4: to yourself, why do I live in Indianapolis?

1328
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 2: Uh?

1329
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 4: Lake Lake, Lake Lake Lake, Like easy, by Jesus, want

1330
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 4: my fucking address?

1331
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 2: Stack in the city is huge.

1332
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not in Carnmeble. A lot of suits at

1333
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 4: Carmel definitely one offense, beautiful place.

1334
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 5: One thing you wish you were better at.

1335
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 4: M as crazy as it sounds like communication, So like

1336
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 4: I mighta show him good business, good you know, but

1337
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 4: I think my wife would tell me that I could

1338
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 4: be better.

1339
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 1: I think, like I tell the same thing about I

1340
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 1: get paid to talk all day, and I need to

1341
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 1: learn how to communicate better with her.

1342
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 2: It's funny you said that.

1343
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like her and like, you know, like there's

1344
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 4: so many different chapters and eras of my life. It's

1345
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 4: like if I see people from my past, it'll be

1346
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 4: like we never missed a day. But like I'm not

1347
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 4: good at like keeping up with people, you know, like

1348
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:11,919
Speaker 4: I get so wrapped up in work, in what I'm doing.

1349
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 4: I'm not good at like keeping in touch with people

1350
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 4: that I genuinely care about, you know, like people that

1351
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 4: I don't really see often and aren't in my sphere

1352
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 4: on a regular basis. Like I'm not good at sending

1353
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 4: like hey, what's up? You know, like I like posts

1354
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 4: on the internet, and like in my eyes, i'll like

1355
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 4: be like see like I'm paying I want them to know,

1356
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 4: like I still appreciate them. But I think I could

1357
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 4: be a much better, like personal communicator in my life.

1358
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 4: And I think enjoying life a little bit more, Like

1359
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 4: I enjoy my work, but like I'm always on my

1360
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 4: phone when I'm home, Like I try my best to

1361
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 4: be present, like I do but like all that shit,

1362
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:57,479
Speaker 4: like being a human a little bit better.

1363
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 5: I think I would like to get dot on our

1364
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 5: hands wheels and get going.

1365
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 4: It's crazy, isn't it.

1366
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, we're talking about any counseling. It's a

1367
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 2: session right here. But for real, it's funny saying.

1368
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 4: Okay, so you go to counseling. I'm scared to go

1369
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 4: because it's all working for me. I don't want to change.

1370
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: I don't think it's about what's not working. It's just

1371
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: working and finding the tools to be able to make

1372
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: what you're looking for work.

1373
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 2: You know, how do you balance that? How do you

1374
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 2: communicate that? How do you how are you present in

1375
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 2: the moment?

1376
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 4: Because I'm good, like at work right now, very like

1377
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 4: I'm great, I'm having.

1378
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 2: The best We literally just had this in our counseling.

1379
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: Like I get paid a lot of money to talk

1380
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 1: to the world, but have issues talking to the people

1381
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: I love the most.

1382
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, and like I always feel like I'm gonna interrupt them,

1383
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 4: like I don't want to, you know, like that whole thing.

1384
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 4: So okay, So I should think about maybe talking to somebody.

1385
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 4: How about this ayahuasca?

1386
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 2: Like that I talk to somebody's who they talking to

1387
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 2: with day problems. That's why somebody with problems.

1388
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 4: And are they taking? Hey are they taking? And my

1389
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,439
Speaker 4: problems really just lay away with that person. They're taking

1390
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 4: it to somebody else and then they're bringing it back

1391
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 4: about over raty. But I in Waska, I'm scared to death.

1392
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 2: I want to try that.

1393
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, but like reset your brain. I'm like, I'm in

1394
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 4: a good spot. Like my brain, I don't need to

1395
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:12,479
Speaker 4: reset stack. You do not look cool. You look cool.

1396
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 1: You look I'm gonna get your paragator booths.

1397
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 5: I need to get your number after this, padle me

1398
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 5: get Jackson case cases.

1399
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah yeah Texas right out of here.

1400
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 2: I got that out of the.

1401
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 4: What's that place to go?

1402
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 7: Down there?

1403
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 2: And the boot barn?

1404
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 4: Come on, man, pull it, pull it put.

1405
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 2: Stockyards stock Okay, you is the spot though, I'm telling you.

1406
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 4: I was a couple of barns down there. I don't

1407
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 4: know which one was the boot. There's a lot of

1408
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 4: barn there's a lot of barns down there. I got

1409
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 4: a cowboy hat, I got a belt buckle, I got

1410
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 4: these fucking boots. I mean I was yeah, I was

1411
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 4: really in there.

1412
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 2: I was really in there one guess you would like

1413
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 2: to see on All the Smoke, but you have to

1414
01:06:57,840 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 2: help us get your answer on the show.

1415
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 1: Oh so booking for you guys just one time basically,

1416
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like it's not like you're it's

1417
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 1: not it's not like.

1418
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 7: You're busy booking your own ship. But yeah, one time

1419
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 7: for us. Hey, not a bad, Hey, not a bad,

1420
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 7: A bad little quick hitter. Hey, who you're booking on

1421
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 7: our show?

1422
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 4: I think Aaron would love your show. Has he been

1423
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 4: on from North cal He hasn't yet. I think you Yeah,

1424
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 4: I will drop the work right. I think Peyton would be.

1425
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 2: Good on this be the one because I definitely want

1426
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 2: to talk to about the I.

1427
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 4: Was, Hey, he's got the answer.

1428
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 2: He's in there and they got that, they got told,

1429
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 2: they got some. I want to try the.

1430
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 4: Back of the toad.

1431
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 2: Have you talked to Mike Tyson?

1432
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 4: Never?

1433
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's I think you guys would vibe Okay. I

1434
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 2: don't want to shoot on myself, so yeah, I don't

1435
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 2: want to do that. I don't want to get high

1436
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 2: and shipp on myself.

1437
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 4: You're talking about the told told, I heard it's coming

1438
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 4: basement and ada know, I'm cool I'm cool.

1439
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 2: I just put it. I think you and Mike you're

1440
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 2: trying to hit this.

1441
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 4: I think the I don't know which dimension you're trying

1442
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 4: to get to. But boy, I heard once you bust

1443
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 4: through four, you know, because we're in the third one, right, Yeah,

1444
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 4: once you bust through four. From what I've been told,

1445
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 4: you're really living up there. From what I've been told,

1446
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 4: seventhethh dimension.

1447
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to go that high.

1448
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 3: I know.

1449
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 4: No, Yeah, you're fucking yeah Cloud ten. They said, maybe

1450
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 4: you mentioned ten. You're up there Mike Tyson though, Yeah,

1451
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 4: so obviously you know Mike Tyson's fucking Mike Tyson. So like,

1452
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 4: I know who Mike Tyson is, and I think everything

1453
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 4: that he has done to kind of like bounce I

1454
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 4: don't say bounce back, but like, yeah, is so fantastic

1455
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:45,799
Speaker 4: inspiring Austin. Like when he starts talking, I love listening

1456
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 4: because I think what a lot of people forget is

1457
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 4: like there's not a lot of Mike Tyson's in like Kobe's.

1458
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:54,600
Speaker 4: There's only a few ones that have ever existed, you know,

1459
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 4: you talk about like MJ. Kobe, those people. Mike Tyson's

1460
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 4: up in there, Serena Williams is up in like up

1461
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 4: in those levels. So when that person speaking, I am

1462
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 4: going to be listening, like that is Tom Brady, Peyton Manning,

1463
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 4: like those fuckers that are up there. Like so Mike

1464
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 4: in the way he's been so transparent and authentic and

1465
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 4: everything he's done. Obviously I have become a massive fan

1466
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:22,759
Speaker 4: of his. So when I do the SPI's. That happened

1467
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 4: like two days beforehand. It was decided that I was

1468
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 4: going to do the SP's because they didn't have a

1469
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 4: host because there was a writer's strike going on everything

1470
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 4: like that. So Jimmy Pittar and I were talking and

1471
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 4: it came up and he basically said, like I forget

1472
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 4: how it came up, but it was announced moments before.

1473
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 4: I talked to Jimmy Pataro that there was gonna be

1474
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 4: no host for the SP's like literally moments before. So

1475
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 4: I brought it up and he was like, yeah, we don't,

1476
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 4: And I said that'd be easy work. I said to Jimmy,

1477
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 4: that'd be easy work. You know, it's like stand up

1478
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 4: for ten minutes in the SP's Like that's easy. It's

1479
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 4: like two days from now though, he said, like it's

1480
01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 4: like in two days or whatever. I'm like, easy work,

1481
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 4: no problem at all. I was like, if you guys

1482
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 4: want me to do it, I would love to do it.

1483
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 4: I'd be honored to do it. And Jimmy goes, okay,

1484
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 4: let's do it. I was like deal. So they tell

1485
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:12,680
Speaker 4: the person running the SPI's his name's Connorshell. Used to

1486
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 4: work at ESPN. Connorshell now he left ESPN and he

1487
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:20,759
Speaker 4: has a production company that does the SP's and NFL honors.

1488
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 4: He was not necessarily as pumped that I was going to. Okah,

1489
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 4: he was not necessarily as pumped as I was to

1490
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,560
Speaker 4: get to do the opportunity. So they wanted me to

1491
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 4: send over what my open was going to be, you know,

1492
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 4: so they could punch it up, put some jokes in

1493
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:41,639
Speaker 4: and everything like make it better. So no fucking chance

1494
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 4: am I sending over what I'm actually going to say

1495
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 4: to these people. So I type up a big fake speech.

1496
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 4: I type up a fake speech. Took me seventy five

1497
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,680
Speaker 4: minutes to type up this fake speech. But in the

1498
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,560
Speaker 4: fake speech had all the beats because I knew, like

1499
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 4: camera people would want to know potentially who we could shoot.

1500
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 4: So like tomar obviously I'm gonna talk about tomorrow. I

1501
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 4: want to talk about these people. So I make fake

1502
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,680
Speaker 4: speech but put the people that wouldn't even be like.

1503
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 4: I felt very proud of what I did. I was like,

1504
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 4: it's good. I'm I'm doing it. Boys. You know, the

1505
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 4: boys were helping me.

1506
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 2: You know.

1507
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 4: It was it was a pretty cool thing. So that

1508
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 4: whole story behind the scenes of the sb's is a

1509
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 4: that is awesome. That is awesome. It involves me saying

1510
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 4: I don't care what you say, Like I'm gonna go

1511
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 4: out there and do my thing and you're either gonna

1512
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 4: hate it or love it. But there's nothing new or

1513
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 4: I could do at this point, you know, because Jimmy

1514
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 4: told him.

1515
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 5: It's above me.

1516
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's above you too. So everybody so like,

1517
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 4: this is how it's gonna go. So there was a

1518
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 4: little tension. I think Connor, good guy by the way,

1519
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 4: got a chance to chat with him before, during, and after,

1520
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 4: great relationship. I think he would say the same. But

1521
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 4: as I walk on the stage, Mike Tyson's front fucking row,

1522
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 4: like right here, and it was at that moment I'm like, yeah,

1523
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 4: I'm at the SV like Mike Tyson is right here.

1524
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,759
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey were right here. I think Jamal

1525
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 4: was over here. I think there was like all the

1526
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 4: big names. Lindsay Vaughan I think was sitting right here,

1527
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 4: and I was like, damn. Like Mike Tyson though. As

1528
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 4: I turned the corner, He's the first person I see,

1529
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:13,600
Speaker 4: and I'm like, fuck, I'm at the SP's so I

1530
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 4: start talking nothing. I see Mike's space. This fucker is

1531
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,839
Speaker 4: not budgeting, and I'm like, Okay, Mike's not about my bullshit.

1532
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 4: You know, Mike does not know I exist. About four

1533
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 4: minutes in, I got Mike to pop and I saw

1534
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 4: him laugh and I was like, so, Paul, I was like,

1535
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 4: I got, I got Mike Tyson And in the middle

1536
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 4: of it, I almost stopped and was like, Mike exactly.

1537
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 4: I was so pumped a by it. So I love Mike.

1538
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 4: So if you guys are booking Mike Tyson on.

1539
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 2: My show, well we'll do across.

1540
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 5: See what we can do.

1541
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 4: Who do you want you want? All right, I'll send

1542
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 4: a text.

1543
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 1: I got no power over this motherfucker, and we have

1544
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 1: no power of Mike, but we have his old person

1545
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 1: needs to run the show that works for us, So

1546
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 1: we're good.

1547
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 4: He's micro dosing and ship out of mushrooms.

1548
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 2: Right, And I heard see was eating the Ears Ears.

1549
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, hey Mike, I'm a supporter, but.

1550
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 2: Yeah I saw that in his pocket. Yes, yeah, yeah.

1551
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1552
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 2: They're pretty good too. They're strong. Yeah, they're fantastic.

1553
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 4: One. I was just out of Vegas playing thirteen the Issues.

1554
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 4: I put in my back pocket and I run hot.

1555
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 4: So we got two to three sticking together, right now.

1556
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 5: Come come in your way, coming hot, come in your way.

1557
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 4: Absolutely, we're just in Vegas for cheers. Yeah, here's I'll

1558
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 4: take the one and a half.

1559
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 2: Just give me the one. Cheers.

1560
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 4: Hey, cheers you CB the only, yeah, CB, the only,

1561
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 4: obviously the only.

1562
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:39,680
Speaker 2: Oh those are those are warmed. I was butt all

1563
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 2: over that.

1564
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:43,639
Speaker 4: You guys. You guys got a little ass Ears.

1565
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 2: Hey. We want to thank you man again. Uh thank you.

1566
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 5: You know the trail you've blazed being able to do

1567
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 5: it your way on the biggest scale.

1568
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 2: We admired that.

1569
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 5: We respected Ears and keep doing your thing, man, Thanks

1570
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 5: for your time giving up.

1571
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 2: Pat mcabee, look you brother, appreciate you guys.

1572
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:03,560
Speaker 4: Love it