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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Hello friends. I went full Jim Nance to

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Speaker 1: start the show here, Hello friends. Here we are at

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Speaker 1: Augusta National.

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Speaker 2: No we're not.

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Speaker 1: We're actually at Reliant Park at rely On Stadium at

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Speaker 1: the practice field. Earlier, as we watched day one of

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Speaker 1: Mini camp, a lot of stuff going down. You've heard

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Speaker 1: the guys talking about it all day on Sports Radio

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Speaker 1: six ten. Now it is our turn to reflect on

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Speaker 1: today's proceedings and another practice scheduled for tomorrow and Thursday

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Speaker 1: and then the long break. We talked about internal Media

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Speaker 1: Day yesterday. You're going to hear some interviews tonight, including

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Speaker 1: but not a little bit too, Kai Kroger Putter for

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Speaker 1: your Texans. There's a bit of a competition here right

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Speaker 1: because Jake Stonehouse is in the house also at Putter,

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Speaker 1: so they were going at it today a little bit.

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Speaker 1: That was kind of fun to watch. But we'll hear

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Speaker 1: what Kai has to say later. But let's kick off

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Speaker 1: the show now with Jay Rock. Jalen Smith corner out

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Speaker 1: of USC in his second year, banged up in year

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Speaker 1: one but got some playing time and expecting big things

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Speaker 1: him right after practice all right jailing. So you're not

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Speaker 3: It feels good, man, A little bit more comfortable going

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Speaker 3: into your two. Bigger, a little bigger, faster and stronger.

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Speaker 3: You know, had a year under the playbook, so you know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Jay, And.

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Speaker 5: We talked about this a lot with guys when they

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Speaker 4: What does that meant for you? That's far.

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Speaker 5: I know you have put the pads on you, but well,

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Speaker 5: how do you how do you fuel that kind of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you you look at you know, off

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Speaker 3: and that's just working, you know, tremendously hard. No getting

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Speaker 3: I think that's what that's what it looks like.

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Speaker 1: And uh, it's been great outside. Inside you play a

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Speaker 1: how that's going.

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Speaker 3: It's been going good, you know, just been flowing around,

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Speaker 3: just you know, not gonna dust off the screws.

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Speaker 6: It's been great, you know, been good playing inside and

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Speaker 4: Okay, you're part of a couple of clicks.

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Speaker 5: First of all, you're part of the USC click because

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Speaker 5: there's a lot of Trojans out here. But we realized

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Speaker 6: Ah Man, tight knit guys.

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Speaker 3: Man guys that have you know, grew up together, you know,

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Speaker 3: You know, these guys have had their different journeys, you know,

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Speaker 1: We had a chance to visit with Kamari Ramsey, So

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Speaker 4: Oh, Man, ball hawk.

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Speaker 3: He's super smart man. You know, he's gonna make a

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Speaker 5: Really excited. We saw what you could do in training camp.

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Speaker 3: You know, you know, leaning on my room like you

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Speaker 3: You know, those guys were you know, making tremendous plays

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Speaker 1: So yeah, Jay rocket there. We're not in pads yet

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Speaker 6: It's kind of sharpen the tools.

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Speaker 3: Fact, I mean it's fun, but it's like you work

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Speaker 5: Okay, last year, first week we did get to go

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Speaker 4: What was that like for you? Getting to play in

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Speaker 6: It was?

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Speaker 3: It was great? Man, it was a dream come true.

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Speaker 3: You know, my nephew was just born that that year. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna ask you about the entire schedule, but

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Speaker 6: Hey, it's gonna be a crazy trip.

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Speaker 3: You know. I'm excited to, you know, get out of

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Speaker 4: Did you have you passed for it?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure. You know all I want a couple

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Speaker 1: Okay, Jerk, thanks a lot for jorinding us.

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Speaker 6: Appreciate you, man, I appreciate you have.

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Speaker 1: Johnny, he's a hard guy not to like Jalen Smith's

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Speaker 1: second year corner. I really love spending some time with him.

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Speaker 1: And look that was coming off a hot, humid practice

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Speaker 1: he was still fresh, you know, great talker and everything.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he is a fascinating, fascinating guy, and

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Speaker 4: He was unable to play last year.

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Speaker 4: But he's got such a good spirit. I love that.

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Speaker 5: I love that about him. He's got such a positive spirit, like, hey,

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Speaker 4: I'm good.

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Speaker 4: Hey, one play, I knocked it away.

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Speaker 5: He kind of flatlined. He never got too high, never

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Speaker 5: and then you get the next one. I feel like

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Speaker 5: in that secondary. That if you get three strong cover

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Speaker 1: I think front line they're obviously good, but you said it.

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Speaker 1: Somebody gets a little nicked up. Whatever, Maybe you want

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Speaker 1: to take a half off or a full game off,

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Speaker 1: so you don't have to force yourself back. Here's the thing,

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Speaker 1: it's basically a lost season. Yet you do get some

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Speaker 1: water under the bridge. Are you get experience and we'll

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Speaker 1: He talked about getting bigger in that interview. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: like he was wiry last year. But he doesn't have

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Speaker 1: He's definitely putting the work on his body and you

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: One thing they would have definitely known is what do

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Speaker 1: It was tough for Treymont in that Charger game to

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Speaker 1: you don't have to force the guy. We're forced the guy.

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Speaker 1: Our guy doesn't feel like he has to force himself

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he stepped up a step.

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Speaker 5: I think it's easy to Nico and see size, speed,

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Speaker 5: he's going deep. But to me, when he helps out

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Speaker 1: But Nico is not my Receiver of the Day olk

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Speaker 5: And that's how a good practice tooly. You know, the

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Speaker 1: Isn't he the ultimate? Don't forget about me because last

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Speaker 1: we have impossible not to notice. It's impossible not to

437
00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,400
Speaker 1: notice seventeen making plays out there.

438
00:18:54,840 --> 00:19:00,679
Speaker 5: He is slick and smooth, and sometimes that doesn't amount

439
00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,960
Speaker 5: too much. But where I feel like it pays off

440
00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:08,760
Speaker 5: for him is he's very subtle in making movements and

441
00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,000
Speaker 5: before you know it, boom, he's run past you and you're.

442
00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:12,560
Speaker 4: Like, well, how did that?

443
00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:12,960
Speaker 2: What?

444
00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:14,440
Speaker 4: How do you do that?

445
00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,879
Speaker 5: He's got a soft pair of hands, Like just stand

446
00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,800
Speaker 5: by the receivers as they're doing drills, thump thump, thump,

447
00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,639
Speaker 5: and then listen to him catch the ball.

448
00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,080
Speaker 4: It's like it's like very soft.

449
00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:27,639
Speaker 2: Uh.

450
00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,560
Speaker 4: And I like that. I mean, it just shows what

451
00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:31,760
Speaker 4: kind of receiver he can be.

452
00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:36,560
Speaker 5: I just remember in the in the championship game Illinois

453
00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,800
Speaker 5: State played, it was Montana State, and the game got

454
00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,040
Speaker 5: a little drunk at the end, but it was a

455
00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:47,239
Speaker 5: fantastic I mean, it was a fantastic game. Now, there

456
00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,200
Speaker 5: were some misfield goals and it ended up going to overtime.

457
00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:55,159
Speaker 4: But if I remember right in that game, uh was.

458
00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,320
Speaker 5: It that game I'm thinking of, or maybe it was

459
00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:03,119
Speaker 5: the semifinal, but I remember saw Kuwitz was fantastic, Like

460
00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:07,040
Speaker 5: they had a they had a crew at Illinois State

461
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,439
Speaker 5: and that they've been together I think for a little while,

462
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,959
Speaker 5: and they were they were really really good. Yeah, sop

463
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,639
Speaker 5: Quots had five for fifty two that game, and he

464
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,960
Speaker 5: had a touchdown and he had a team his teammates

465
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,240
Speaker 5: a freshman, that's what it is. He's got a teammate

466
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,000
Speaker 5: by the name of Dylan Lord as a freshman, and

467
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,520
Speaker 5: those two just went to work.

468
00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,360
Speaker 4: They were they were outstanding.

469
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Speaker 5: But I remember sopk It's number two net game making

470
00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,200
Speaker 5: some nice catches like, man, okay, this kid, and I

471
00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:33,760
Speaker 5: knew to keep an eye on Dylan Lord because that

472
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 5: guy's gonna be a he's gonna be a baller. But

473
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 5: sop quits in that game. They just they stayed in

474
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 5: the game because of the catches that those two guys

475
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 5: were making. And you just see it in the way

476
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 5: they do everything. In a way he does everything. He's

477
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 5: just slicking smooth. Not really sure why he didn't get drafted,

478
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 5: but look, it's one of those things where as a rookie,

479
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 5: you know and we know that not everybody stays healthy

480
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 5: and the record during trait.

481
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 1: Of course, I mean every position we're going to talk about, right,

482
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 1: so that can thin the herd a little bit. And

483
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 1: then somebody else moves in. They get a job. That's

484
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 1: exactly right. The guy who got hurt gets healthy. Now

485
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,399
Speaker 1: you get a decision to make, and that's what you

486
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:14,199
Speaker 1: want to be able to do.

487
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 5: You want to be Okay, somebody's banged up, sop quits

488
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,119
Speaker 5: getting with the two's boom, runs in there, catches two

489
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 5: three passes from Davis Mills, and all of a sudden,

490
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Speaker 5: it's like, whoa, hey, seventeen, it's pretty damn good.

491
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Speaker 1: Can I give you another one of my gay Yeah,

492
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Speaker 1: I'm doing Harris Hits today. Okay, take it over, Harris Hits.

493
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 1: That's the Harris Hits hijack with me. Dylan Horton, who

494
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 1: he spoke to yesterday during Internal Media Day, that interview

495
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 1: is going to be heard soon enough. Dylan Horton was

496
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 1: an impossible not to notice guy, not because they're going

497
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 1: full speed and he sacking people, but he looks like

498
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,120
Speaker 1: Johnny's where he's supposed to be all the time. You

499
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,679
Speaker 1: mentioned during you mentioned it during the interview. You know

500
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:57,919
Speaker 1: he had lymphoma. That's definitely a factor in your athletic development,

501
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 1: certainly your personal life health health development, and then you

502
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,679
Speaker 1: add on the athletic part of it, and you're supposed

503
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Speaker 1: to play professional football. And last year was more like

504
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 1: a rookie year to him, and now this would be

505
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 1: year two. Yet you know, he's been around enough to

506
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,919
Speaker 1: soak up plenty and it looks like he's soaking It

507
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 1: looks like he's ready to go. Johnny. It looks like

508
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 1: they think. I believe this. They think he's going to

509
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Speaker 1: have a big year. He's fully focused, and he's where

510
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 1: he's supposed to be. And I think the Anderson Danielle

511
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 1: Hunter mentorship is rubbing off on him, and we're gonna

512
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 1: get some fine play out of Dylan Horton this year.

513
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Speaker 1: And I think this could be a reason why now

514
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: watch them change after Minnie Campus signed Derek Barnett or something.

515
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,239
Speaker 1: But this could be one of the reasons why they

516
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 1: don't go sign Derek Bartnett to this team, because they

517
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 1: feel really good about who they have on the edge

518
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 1: with Dominique Robinson and Horton obviously, and maybe Logan Hall

519
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 1: inside outside you talk about him being Denico Autry guy,

520
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 1: and we talked to Logan Hall yesterday too. He's a

521
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: piece of work. I mean, this guy's very dude is

522
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Speaker 1: a specif. Yeah, I mean, but I like today thoughts.

523
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, Dylan, and you'll hear that interview. I think one

524
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 5: of the important things, and you mentioned it, he has,

525
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 5: you know, the rookie pre draft stuff, so you're doing

526
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 5: totally non football things. Then I guess Lim Folman halfway

527
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 5: through the year. So now he's fighting cancer going into

528
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 5: twenty four. Now he gets himself back, but he's not

529
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 5: quite back back. But after twenty four going to twenty five,

530
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 5: he's got a full year of just working out for football,

531
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Speaker 5: not beating cancer, not working for the draft, getting ready

532
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 5: for the season. And I think it showed in the

533
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 5: way he played, especially the second half of the year.

534
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 5: I thought he had some really good games. He did

535
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 5: a good job rushing to quarterback and plays the run

536
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 5: really well. He's always played the run really well. This

537
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 5: year he's now going into like you said, it's like

538
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 5: he's going into year two, even though mathematically technically it's

539
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 5: year four. But it just goes to show he stays

540
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,959
Speaker 5: healthy and he can just continue to build and stack

541
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Speaker 5: good days in the offseason to get himself to a

542
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Speaker 5: point now and you said it in their brother me

543
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 5: you We we talked about it. Hey are they are

544
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 5: they thin on the edge? Thin in the edge? What

545
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 5: they do during the draft? What do we doing during

546
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 5: a draft?

547
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 4: On the edge? Draft?

548
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 1: Buddy nor No, right, they like what they've got, like.

549
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 5: You said, maybe they know something that a lot of

550
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 5: people aren't gonna know because they've been spending that time

551
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 5: with him. So maybe they're telling you without telling you

552
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 5: now like you said, they could go get a guy.

553
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 5: Even if they got a guy, Mark, I don't think

554
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 5: it would be because they don't trust Dylan. I think

555
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 5: they see a true upside with him.

556
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Speaker 4: But they might look at her side, yeah.

557
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 5: More more than look more than merry all right, you know,

558
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 5: Dominique showing us some stuff. But you know what, we

559
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 5: feel like we need another piece there just to go

560
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 5: with all what we've got.

561
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 4: But Dylan's gonna be a part of that piece.

562
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Speaker 1: What did we talk about with Jay Rock earlier? Right

563
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 1: when Kamari? If Kamari or Stingley little nicked up, maybe

564
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: you want to set them for a game, right, Maybe

565
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: feel really comfortable with Jay Rock player outside for a

566
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 1: full game?

567
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 4: Maybe not? Maybe you do, but on the edge.

568
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: Remember at the end of last season, Will and daneel

569
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: are on the sideline a lot on first and second down,

570
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 1: and then they bring him in for pass rest situations.

571
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: Rankins too, So they have to have guys they love

572
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: on the edge. They're gonna play a ton. We've been

573
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 1: talking about it all off season long, with Rod Wright

574
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: and everything. They rotate. So, yeah, Dylan's fine, And the

575
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: question is it's OTAs he can't really tell. How do

576
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: they feel about Dominic Robinson who they acquired this offseason.

577
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: How do they feel about Logan Hall, How do they

578
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: feel about everybody else that they could possibly put outside

579
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 1: and inside on that D line. I got another one

580
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 1: for you when we go to the old line. You know,

581
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: it's nice seeing Braden Smith with a helmet on. Yeah,

582
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 1: because this is the first eleven on eleven I've seen

583
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: him with a helmet on. Last week and the helmet off.

584
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: It was kind of an odd look because they were

585
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: doing walk through speed. But I don't know why you

586
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: didn't have the helmet on. Maybe it was inside or

587
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 1: they were like, you're gonna be fine, no one's touching you.

588
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: But you know, it is easy to recognize with the

589
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: helmet off today. Actually had to do a double take

590
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 1: because I'm not used to seeing seventy one out there right,

591
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 1: and I was like, seventy Oh gosh, it's Braden Smith

592
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: with a helmet on.

593
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Speaker 2: Good.

594
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: I just liked seeing that. And again, they're not going

595
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: full full today. They were at times full err in

596
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,959
Speaker 1: the red zone and certain instances offensively anyway, But the

597
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: center's Johnny, how they handle the centers, how they go, Jake,

598
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 1: Andrews go Rutledge and I don't know. Rutledge was in

599
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 1: there more for the red zone stuff, Andrews for the

600
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: full field stuff, maybe the two minute offense stuff. I'm

601
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: not sure how and why they're divving it up that way.

602
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,719
Speaker 1: You know, Andrew's obviously more experienced, obviously Rutledge or rookie.

603
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: But that was a notable thing to me because we

604
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: talked to Evan Brown yesterday, had that interview on Texans

605
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: All Access. He's capable of playing center. I think that

606
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: we're not seeing much of him at center because they

607
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: feel like he's good, he's fine, he can play center. Yeah,

608
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 1: let's see what reps we can get Rutledge, and in

609
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: certain instances we need Andrews in there because he knows

610
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 1: what we're doing.

611
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think Evan's taking a few more reps

612
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 5: at guard. But yeah, I agree with you. I mean

613
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 5: we've seen, I like to you know, the fact that

614
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 5: Ivan can play both spots. We feel like we know

615
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 5: Kelan could play guard because we saw him do at

616
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 5: Georgia Tech and some do it at a high level.

617
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 5: Just getting more of the center reps just gonna make him,

618
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 5: you know, that much more comfortable at at center. And

619
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Speaker 5: I've always thought Jake is a center, not at guard,

620
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 5: so you know you're not gonna get you know, many

621
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 5: guard reps. I think Eli Cox is the same way

622
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 5: Eli getting reps at center. Oh yeah, So when Eli

623
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 5: is in there with Evan, you're like, Okay, Eli needs

624
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 5: to get center reps because he's a center. There are

625
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 5: certain guys like Kevin Brown that can do both, and

626
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 5: so it's like, hey, we need to get Eli some reps.

627
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 5: We obviously want to get Evan reps. So Evan, you're

628
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 5: at guard, Eli you're at center. So it's gonna be

629
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 5: a really interesting to me if you put down, hey,

630
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 5: you know ten things you want to watch a training camp,

631
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 5: or you're gonna watch a training camp.

632
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 4: To me, that's gonna be number one.

633
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 5: Is how are they divving up the reps on the interior?

634
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 4: You know why it's left guard?

635
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 5: I mean, I like, I think he's taking every rep

636
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 5: at left guard and Ed's gonna be a right guard.

637
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 5: I mean, you don't give a guy, you know, three

638
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 5: years and thirty seven and a half million dollars to

639
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 5: have him not play right guard. So how do they

640
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 5: how do they divvy up those center reps? Again, we

641
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 5: saw part of it in uh Otz and Me camp, Like, Okay,

642
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 5: some it's Keeling, some it's Jake.

643
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's Jake for Keeling.

644
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 5: Sometimes Keeling's with that, you know, So they're mixing and

645
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 5: matching from that standpoint. But once you start putting the

646
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 5: pads on and once you can have contact, some of

647
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 5: that stuff sort of levels it out. Like, Okay, Keelan

648
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 5: does a pretty good job with his snaps. He does

649
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 5: a pretty good job with somebody over his head or

650
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 5: you know, in the a gap or whatever.

651
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 4: He can deal with.

652
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Speaker 5: So, yeah, he's handling us pretty well. Let's continue to

653
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 5: give him those reps. Let's continue to get him comfortable there.

654
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Speaker 1: Okay, that was my hijacking of Harris hits today. So

655
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: are the Texans gonna run trick plays this year on

656
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: special teams? That's one of the questions we're gonna ask

657
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Speaker 1: Kai Kroger, a putter for your Texans coming up next

658
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: here on Texans Radio. So great to have you listening

659
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: to Texans All Access tonight from the hun Day Texans

660
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Speaker 1: Radio studio here at Reliance Stadium, and the FIFA crew

661
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: is in full invasion mode. I got to tell you

662
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: this place is fully fifit out ready for the World Cup.

663
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: More work to do. I think the first game here

664
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: is Sunday. I'm still planning on being in the building

665
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: a week from Saturday for the Netherlands versus Sweden. Got

666
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: to see that. Don't know how I'm getting in yet.

667
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: I imagine it might be less than it costing it.

668
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: It's a Madison Square garden for the NBA Finals. It

669
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: better be otherwise I'm not going. So there's that, But

670
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: I don't see a way how they can keep me out.

671
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: I'm Dutch for crying out loud. I was born there.

672
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: I'm an American citizen, but I was born there.

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Speaker 4: Anyway.

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Speaker 1: I'll get to that later or not. Let's get to this,

675
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: Kai Kroger putter for your Texans. Johnny and I had

676
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: a lot of interviews during internal media Day, which you'll

677
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: be hearing over the coming weeks. And this is good stuff.

678
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 4: You know.

679
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: Kai was acquired from the Saints and it was actually

680
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: a trade this offseason, the Texans sending a sixth for

681
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: Kroger and a seventh. Nick Casario loves making deals with

682
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: the six seven, six to seven round picks, right, and

683
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: I know I did that. I can't help it. My

684
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: kid tells me it's over. The six to seventh thing

685
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: is over if you're just catching on to it now,

686
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: nobody knows what it really means. If you're just catching on,

687
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: it's already over, so don't worry about it. But Kai

688
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: Kroger is not over. He was out there with Jake

689
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: Stonehouse today in a little punting. Do I call it

690
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: a battle? I mean, you got two punters around, So

691
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens here. Kroger an interesting guy. We

692
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: caught up with him at that internal media day. He

693
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Speaker 1: likes being with the Texans. So far, so good.

694
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: It's been great. It's truly a blessing. And I was

695
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 2: talking about this a little bit with coaches some of

696
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: the players. I remember being here last year for Rickey

697
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 2: Mini Caamp and kind of thinking like, Wow, this place

698
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 2: is special and this place is great, and I've always

699
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: wanted to be in Texas, just the people, the state.

700
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 2: I just love the area. And so when they happened

701
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: that I ended up being here, I was thrilled. And

702
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: it's been nothing but great so far, from the staff

703
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 2: to the players, the facilities, everything's been great and I've

704
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 2: enjoyed it a lot.

705
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 4: Okay, so you you played your college well at South Carolina.

706
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 2: I did.

707
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 4: Are you from South Carolina?

708
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 2: From Chicago?

709
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 4: From Chicago?

710
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 5: Okay, so get us your story from Chicago to South

711
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 5: Carolina to here.

712
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: So, yeah, I guess going through the high school recruiting process,

713
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 2: for me, it was wherever I could get a scholarship

714
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 2: off or I would go. And I went to the

715
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: South Carolina Special Teams camp and they ended up offering

716
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 2: me after the camp or directly after. And so I

717
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: think it was three weeks exactly to the day I

718
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 2: committed after I got offered. Okay, so I didn't wait

719
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 2: around just sec you're the warm Everything kind of lined

720
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: up perfectly, and yeah, so I played there for five

721
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: seasons the best best years of my life, and then

722
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: went through the pre draft process, ended up getting went undrafted,

723
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: signed to New York, was there for a little bit,

724
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 2: got let go, and then went to New Orleans and

725
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 2: then played the whole season there last year.

726
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 5: So you said Chicago to South Carolina, and then immediately

727
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 5: I went, whoa, those are different.

728
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 4: Worlds, man. I mean, I know we're all in the

729
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 4: United States, but those are different worlds.

730
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 5: How did you I mean, obviously you were there for

731
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 5: five years, so you adapted and it seemed to.

732
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 4: Is if you loved it. But how did that Chicago

733
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 4: to Columbia. It's a little different.

734
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: No, yeah, it is moments. Yeah, and I will say

735
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: I'm not I wasn't directly. I'm not directly from the

736
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 2: city of Chicago. I'm about thirty to forty minutes north, Okay,

737
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,479
Speaker 2: even further. Yeah, so I guess it's a little closer

738
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: to South Carolina than Chicago would be in terms of

739
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 2: like just the city and everything. But I wanted to

740
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: be down south and it just worked out that South

741
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: Carolina had offered me.

742
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: Okay, well, what about the cultural shock of being in

743
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: New Orleans?

744
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 2: That that was a big difference and it was but

745
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: another cool thing, Like the first person I started watching

746
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: punning was Thomas Moore Staid and so I kind of

747
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 2: grew up a Saints fan, So that was really cool

748
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 2: for me to be there. And I had only been

749
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 2: in New Orleans once before being there the whole season

750
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: and so I got to see like the full city

751
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 2: and everything and the culture there is unreal. It was

752
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: unlike anything I'd ever seen, and just the diversity and

753
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: the tradition, which I thought was really cool. In the

754
00:32:59,320 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: history as well.

755
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Speaker 5: It feels like kai that more punters that are coming

756
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 5: into the league, like they've taken this this stance of

757
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 5: they've known they were gonna punt a lot, like back seventh, eighth,

758
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 5: ninth grade, and then they started doing the camps in

759
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 5: the summer that are specific to punning camps and doing

760
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 5: that and kind of going that route as opposed to,

761
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 5: you know what, We've got a small football team. I'm

762
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 5: the only guy that punts and I'm pretty good at it.

763
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 5: And somehow that developed into a scholarship. Did you know

764
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 5: that you wanted to be a punter that early in

765
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 5: your career and kind of went on that path.

766
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 2: I started training for it in seventh grade, but I

767
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: wasn't fully committed to it until after my freshman year

768
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: of high school. I wanted to be a quarterback pretty

769
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: much my whole time growing up, so I was training

770
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Speaker 2: for that as well. And after my freshman year of

771
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: high school is kind of when punting took off and

772
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 2: I kind of realized like I wasn't gonna be a

773
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 2: big time quarterback. So then my sophomore year onward, it

774
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 2: was punning camps all the time, training all the time,

775
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: and it just took off from there.

776
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: Yet you participated in I read this, so pardon me

777
00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: if I don't.

778
00:33:58,760 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: Have the facts straight.

779
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: Multiple trick plays at South Carolina a lot multiple. So

780
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: what were some of the things you really like to

781
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: do there in the trick play category? What can we

782
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: expect here?

783
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 2: Kai?

784
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 4: And when?

785
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: No, you can't tell us when.

786
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 2: But I can't share too much there. But no. I

787
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 2: was fortunate when when coach Biemer came in, and he's

788
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: huge into special teams, yea and so, and then we

789
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 2: brought a coordinator in that loved the trick play stuff,

790
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: and then them together just came up with stuff. Every week.

791
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 2: We had probably four fakes and and So whether it

792
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: was coach Biemer or our special teams coach, it was

793
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 2: like every fourth down they were talking about it, and

794
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 2: majority of the time it was a pass. I think

795
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: I only had one two point conversion that I ran

796
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: in the rest were all throws, which which I like

797
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 2: doing that because it's like I feel like I'm back

798
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: in my high school days playing quarterback. But no, it

799
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: was super fun and those those are some of the

800
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 2: best moments I've had playing football, as those fakes and

801
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: the memories created there.

802
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 4: That's that's pretty wid.

803
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 5: You played for a guy in Shane Beemer that, like

804
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 5: you said, put a focus on special teams. Then you

805
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 5: come here now it's Frank Ross. It's a little different,

806
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 5: but Frank being the special team's core. Let me look,

807
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 5: I think special teams coordinators are probably just all a

808
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 5: little leftist center. Anyways, Frank might be a full little

809
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 5: bit further laughing little bit, but we love it. What

810
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 5: have you learned as far about being around Frank Cross?

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Speaker 2: Oh, I mean he is He's probably the most energetic

812
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 2: and intense coach I've ever had. And he's he's got

813
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 2: his energy drinks lined up and he's fired up all

814
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 2: the time. But I love it, and you want to

815
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 2: play for someone like that, because you know he loves

816
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: it and the energy and time he puts in, and

817
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 2: he's talking to me about stuff that I hadn't thought about,

818
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 2: and he's got three TVs up with film on there,

819
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 2: and he's got his little cursor on something showing me,

820
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 2: and so I've already learned so much from him, And

821
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: that's kind that's kind of someone that you want to

822
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: play for.

823
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: Yep, Kai, I'm curious when you grow up in Chicago Land,

824
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: even though you're on the Burbs, that's still Chicago Land,

825
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: right exactly. So as young as you are, are you

826
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: automatically indoctrinated into Jordan in the Jordan versus Lebron eternal debate?

827
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: How does that work with somebody of your age?

828
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 2: I am, and obviously my parents and everyone grew up

829
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 2: watching Jordan, and so I am on the Jordan's side

830
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: of the debate. M But yeah, that's I mean, that's

831
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: everyone talks about that, Jordan or Lebron. But since being

832
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 2: in Chicago, it's like you have to be Jordan or yeah.

833
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 4: Right, So what do you have plan when you when

834
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 4: for the break? Will you stick around here? Will you go.

835
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 4: Will you go back home?

836
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 5: What will you try and do during the break as

837
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 5: we finish up mini camp here Ky, before the training

838
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 5: camp starts.

839
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm gonna go back to the Chicagoland area,

840
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 2: and I'm actually helping out at the high school and

841
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 2: middle school that I went to. They do like a

842
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 2: youth football camp. That's it next weekend. So I'm gonna

843
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 2: go there and help run that kind of do some

844
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 2: of that community work for about two weeks. I'll be there,

845
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: and then I'm going to go back to Columbia, be

846
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 2: there for about two weeks. I've got a kicking coach

847
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: down there, and obviously the strength staff at the university,

848
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: and then I'll come back here probably a week or

849
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 2: so before training camp starts and kind of get used

850
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: to the heat and that whole thing and be ready

851
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 2: to go.

852
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 4: Kay.

853
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 1: What about Houston. You talked about heat, but what else

854
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 1: strikes you about the city so far?

855
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 2: Well, I didn't realize how big of a city it was,

856
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 2: and everyone's like, oh, be careful of traffic. Yeah, but

857
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: like I'm staying a mile from Energy and sometimes it'll

858
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 2: take me thirty minutes. Yeah, Like this doesn't make any sense.

859
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 2: But yeah, I that was the initial thing is I

860
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: didn't realize how big of a city it was, and

861
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 2: just kind of getting around and you can drive forty

862
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: five minutes and you're still in Houston. Technically that's kind

863
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 2: of something than that, even longer than that. Yeah, but yeah,

864
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 2: that would be the biggest thing that I've been trying

865
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 2: to navigate and learn. It's just how big of a

866
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 2: city it is. And the food spots as well. I'm

867
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 2: trying to find good food everywhere, which I've heard is

868
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: unbelievable here.

869
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 5: Well, i mean your career started with New Orleans and

870
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 5: Houston as far as food goes, you know, I mean,

871
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 5: it's amazing. We obviously you're gonna get a scholarship because

872
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 5: how well you punt.

873
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 4: Then you come to the NFL and yeah, you could.

874
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 5: Punt really well, but how well do you hold How

875
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 5: important has that become, especially with a kicker like I mean,

876
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 5: you know we've.

877
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 4: Talked to coach Ross about this many times.

878
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 5: You know, kickers like things a certain way, just I'm

879
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 5: sure punters like things a certain way.

880
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 4: How is that part of the game kay for you?

881
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that's something that I've always put

882
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 2: a big focus on, especially the speed of when I

883
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 2: catch a snap to put it down, to give the

884
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 2: kicker as long as time to see the ball as possible.

885
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: And emy is I mean, he's the best in the league,

886
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 2: and last year was unbelievable for him. Uh So, And

887
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 2: we've been working and talking every day and always before

888
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 2: we start a field goal practice session or practice anything

889
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: like that, he comes over and just it's like a

890
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: reminder of check in, I put it down. He kind

891
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 2: of shows me exactly. Just we're on the same page

892
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: every day and then it's just routine from there and

893
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: we're building a good rhythm and getting our operation times,

894
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 2: you know, pretty much spot on every time, and just

895
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: kind of building that chemistry as well.

896
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: How's your golf game.

897
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 2: I'd like to say I'm pretty good, but it all

898
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: depends on who you ask.

899
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: So if I asked.

900
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,919
Speaker 4: He's pretty good, he's pretty good. Yeah.

901
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 2: So we've we've played twice together. We tied the first time. Oh,

902
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 2: he beat me by two the last time.

903
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: Okay, So.

904
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 5: Now, okay, So if you're hanging with the emmy like

905
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 5: he might be the best one on the.

906
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: Team, Yeah, I don't know, he's I would say he's

907
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 2: probably the best.

908
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: Is it like golf what he does, especially maybe punting

909
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: to a certain extent as well, And you were talking about, Hey,

910
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: I'm checking in with him every day.

911
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 4: On this hold.

912
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: I mean, how could it be different? Yet, it's like golf.

913
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: You have to zone in on it every single day.

914
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 2: I've said that for years. I know everyone says it,

915
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 2: but it's like kicking and punting and even snapping. It's

916
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 2: identical to golf. You're trying to pick your shot, pick

917
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 2: your target, hit the right shot. If there's wind, you

918
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 2: gotta adjust here, and it's it's all the same thing

919
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 2: in New Orleans.

920
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 5: Obviously you punt inside here, you punt inside. I say,

921
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 5: by Naive Tay showing punting outside punting inside, I would

922
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 5: imagine the mechanics are the same. Or how different is

923
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 5: it when you do go outside, like, okay, we gotta

924
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,959
Speaker 5: go to like we don't don't go outside for a while.

925
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 5: We go to Tennessee week five and now you got

926
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 5: to kick outside. You've been kicking inside the whole time.

927
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 5: How has that change for you? As simple as it

928
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 5: is inside versus outside.

929
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: The only thing that changes is if there's conditions outside. Okay,

930
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 2: So the main thing is the wind obviously, So if

931
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 2: it's windy, you have to adjust, drop it lower, turn

932
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 2: it in more, turn like, adjust all the hold on

933
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: to it longer. Otherwise it's pretty much all the same. Obviously.

934
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 2: Indoor is the dream. Everyone want to play indoors. Yeah,

935
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 2: and we're blessed with having some fun outdoor games in December.

936
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, if there's wind is the biggest thing, and

937
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: then rain and but that's that's the only thing.

938
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: But the footing right your plant foot, you got to

939
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 1: know exactly what's gonna happen.

940
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I probably have it a little easier than kickers do,

941
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 2: and a lot of times kickers will wear a different

942
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: cleat on their plant foot. I don't do that, but

943
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 2: it's easier for me since I try to stay a

944
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: little shorter and compact and I can just kind of

945
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 2: stay vertical, whereas kickers they're gliding into the plant foot

946
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: and putting a lot of pressure on that foot in

947
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: the grass.

948
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 1: Good point, good point hers here for all punts exactly.

949
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, Kay for joining us, Like you guys,

950
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: So there's Kay Kruger, who was with the Texans last

951
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 1: off season for a bit. But we had Tommy Townsend

952
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: around here to punt, So that was more like a

953
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: camp body, maybe a little quick competition. I forget. If

954
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: Tommy was nicked up in the off season. I don't know,

955
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: but the point is he's here. So is Jake Stonehouse

956
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: and Stonehouse the cousin of Ryan's Stonehouse. I love that

957
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: name for a punter. Kroger not bad either because an

958
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: obvious tie in with our grocery partner, one of them,

959
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: because we also have AGB, but it's spelled differently than

960
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: the supermarket Kroger. I'm just pointing these very important things

961
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: out to you along the way here. What are the

962
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 1: services we provide on Texans Radio? Coming up stuff from

963
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: around the league, and a bit more on Texans Mini

964
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: Camp with two days left before the long break prior

965
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 1: to training camp, when's that going to open? I don't

966
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 1: have an exact date for you, but I can get close.

967
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: Let's try that among other things next year on Texans

968
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: All Access. As promised, I said I would try to

969
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: pinpoint the start of training camp. The Texans have not

970
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: released the date to my knowledge. Maybe in my inbox

971
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 1: right now there's a PR release. Probably not, but let's

972
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: do this. The first preseason game is August thirteenth. It's

973
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 1: at home against the La Chargers, a team you actually

974
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 1: play in the regular season. This is going to be interesting.

975
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: Now this has happened before. Okay, it happens plenty of

976
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 1: times anyway. They play the Chargers on the thirteenth at

977
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 1: Reliance State. Usually camp starts two weeks before the first

978
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: preseason game, but lately it's a little earlier. Right, they've

979
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: relaxed those rules a little bit. Now you've a bit

980
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: of a ramp up period. The first couple of practices

981
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: are just lighter, maybe an hour fifteen kind of thing,

982
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: and not as intense. Obviously not in pads because you

983
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: gotta go three days full before you get at the pads.

984
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: But this would put the start of camp around July

985
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 1: twenty ninth, which is later than a lot of people think.

986
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 1: You have to look at Labor Day. The league does

987
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: not start the season until the Sunday or the weekend

988
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: rather after Labor Day, and the weekend starts Wednesday, September ninth,

989
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 1: But Labor Day is really late this year, September seventh,

990
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: So that's why you have that the season for the

991
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: Texan starts September thirteenth. You back that up several weeks

992
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: and you come up with the thirteenth obviously we already

993
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: know that date with the Raiders, and then the twenty

994
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: ninth ish for the start of training camp. Everybody following

995
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 1: at home for this good other stuff. Oh by the way,

996
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: I'm wondering about open practices, how many because last year

997
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: they had what six? But that's because they went to

998
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: the Greenbrier and everything, and they went to the Lions

999
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: week three to have a joint practice with them. Now

1000
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: it's already been said. Dave Canalys from the Panthers said

1001
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: early on, Hey, the Texans are coming in for joint practice,

1002
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be one. Demiko only likes one day.

1003
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: Most coaches do these days. If you go back to

1004
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: back days, you get into fights, it gets sloppy. They

1005
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: don't like it. Think Texans against Washington in Richmond and

1006
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: we got to get the bleep out of Richmond on

1007
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: hard knocks back in the day, the twenty fifteen season.

1008
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: Think about that for a moment. That was actually a

1009
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,439
Speaker 1: road trip just to go practice for a few days.

1010
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,439
Speaker 1: They flew to Richmond and flew back.

1011
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 4: That was weird.

1012
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: You wouldn't see that today, although you do go to

1013
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: the Greenbrier, so who knows, but the Greenbrier you spend

1014
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: time with yourself, with your own team, and maybe you

1015
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: could invite one in for a joint practice like the

1016
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: Texans did with the Patriots in twenty seventeen. Am I

1017
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: getting too historical here? The Raiders are going to be

1018
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: here week two of the preseason, and Clint Kubiak already

1019
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: said that there will be joint practices. He said that

1020
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 1: early on, so the Raiders will come here and sweat.

1021
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: And there's some history here. The Raiders have had joint

1022
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: practices back in the day with the Houston Texans twenty

1023
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: fifth season. So I get to remedists as much as

1024
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: I want. I always do it anyway, but now I

1025
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: got a real good excuse because we're celebrating year twenty five.

1026
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: Al Davis, this is one of the fun tidbits of

1027
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: Texans history. Al Davis was on the field at the

1028
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: Houston Methodist Training Center watching his Raiders practice against the

1029
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: Texans a joint practice, and it was kind of cool

1030
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: to see.

1031
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 4: Al.

1032
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: It really was on the field field level had a

1033
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: walker obviously not in great shape, and Johnny and I

1034
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: had that twenty eleven look back on Friday, the night

1035
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: Al died was game eve of Raiders Texans that year

1036
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 1: early on, and the Raiders won the game against a

1037
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: favored Texans team. But it's just one of those magical days.

1038
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: So the Raiders and the Texans caught them on the

1039
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 1: wrong day as they honored the memory of their managing

1040
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 1: general partner Ali Davis. Anyway, I just thought i'd bring

1041
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: that up. So you have joint practices with the Raiders

1042
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: the Panthers. I'm thinking more open practices this year. I

1043
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: don't know the number, but we'll know soon enough. They'll

1044
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: release that stuff and we'll all gear up for it together.

1045
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: Other stuff going on around the NFL. Daniel Jones not

1046
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: doing any eleven on eleven in Indie. Now that's not

1047
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: a surprise. Coming back from the Achilles. These Achilles recovery

1048
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: times are ridiculously quick now. I mean back in the day,

1049
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: remember when Dan Marino got one of these, and it

1050
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 1: was a couple of years or something, it was ridiculously long.

1051
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 1: Now it's super short for the Achilles recovery situation. Doctor

1052
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 1: Vandermere an Internet doctor. Only that would be me, declares

1053
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. Active week one I think he'll play, and

1054
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: he'll play Week three against the Texans when the Colts

1055
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: host Houston. Can't wait to see the Horseshoe. But the

1056
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: most important thing is week one right against the Buffalo Bills,

1057
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: then the Bengals. Then we'll get to the Horseshoe, and

1058
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: then week four is the Cowboys. Man that early part

1059
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 1: of the schedule. The whole thing is so oh tantalizing.

1060
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: It is so wonderful to think about. Can't wait for

1061
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: that to get going. News from Cleveland, another Texans opponent,

1062
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: that no starter has been named at quarterback between Deshaun

1063
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: Watson and Schouder Sanders. How bad is it for Watson

1064
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: when you can't win the job outright against Sanders automatically? Well,

1065
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: the history between he Watson and the Browns and the

1066
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: contract and the bitterness or whatever they're feeling might have

1067
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: something to do with that. But geez, Watson, I mean,

1068
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: they traded a lot for you and paid you a

1069
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: lot and no offense to Sanders. But Watson should be

1070
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: able to win that job, right, you would think. And

1071
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: maybe it's just not healthy enough or good enough anymore,

1072
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 1: whatever the case is. Wow, all right, there's some stuff

1073
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: from around the league. Had a great visit with Kay

1074
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: Kroger on this show and early on with Jay Rock

1075
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith. All this stuff will be in podcast for

1076
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: him on the Odyssey app in moments so you can

1077
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: check out the entire program and later on on Spotify,

1078
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: Houston Texans dot com, wherever you get your podcasts, and

1079
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: you've got to get some area forty five into your

1080
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: sit them next, the guys are locked and loaded, ready

1081
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: to go. Thanks so much for listening. Full mini camp

1082
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 1: show tomorrow. Have a great night, Go Texans.