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Gregg: Welcome to forties and free agents. I'm Greg Rosenthal with

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Gregg: Daniel Jeremiah. When you hear that song, you know it's

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Gregg: time to start looking ahead to off season and player

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Gregg: acquisition season. And Daniel Jeremiah, you are back off the

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Gregg: this offseason in terms of free agency, in terms of

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DJ: Can I give you one one thought here before we

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DJ: get going, please, you know you get through the year.

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DJ: I don't know if you have this a lot of times.

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DJ: It happens for me after the draft every year, and

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DJ: traveling around with them. You get a little bit sick,

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DJ: like we need a flatter cough drop than what I

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Gregg: That's a hot take. It's been working since I don't

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DJ: No, it's like it's like a big cube. It's like

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DJ: you can't do it when you're working in this medium.

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DJ: So just a frustration of mine. I just wanted to

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Gregg: It also would be disrespectful to have it, you know,

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Gregg: to our forties and free agents listeners in your mouth

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Gregg: All right, that's one team that got knocked out this week.

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Gregg: the l on that one. If I'm gonna take the

449
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:42,879
Gregg: W on George Pickens.

450
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,119
DJ: Well, look, I mean we got Tyler Shuck's got to

451
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,280
DJ: run out there for seventeen games. Sure, we got to

452
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:49,639
DJ: still have to see that the ability.

453
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,080
Gregg: Wait, he looked like your guy Herbert out there. I

454
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,240
Gregg: mean he played well. I'm talking about regular season Herbert, not.

455
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,560
DJ: Playoff for oh man, it was tough finish.

456
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,760
Gregg: We're halfway through. We're gonna come back. I was gonna

457
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,800
Gregg: do it. Uh, And we'll all hit six more NFC

458
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:20,600
Gregg: teams when we come back back on forties and free agents.

459
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:25,240
Gregg: And and I heard DJ's coaching from earlier in the show,

460
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,479
Gregg: and he wants to speed this thing up. But I

461
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,080
Gregg: just this is this is my time.

462
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,280
DJ: Have I told you have? I told you have I

463
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:32,600
DJ: told you my news by the way.

464
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,640
Gregg: No, that you're going back to the Masters this year?

465
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,280
DJ: You like that? Though this I didn't even go. This

466
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,080
DJ: was this was sent to me to the to the

467
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,520
DJ: tournament itself. The how old your youngest? Greg?

468
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:45,600
Gregg: He just turned eleven.

469
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,160
DJ: I'm gonna have my first grandchild in August.

470
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Gregg: Wow, congratulations, which you?

471
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,720
DJ: And since I see us side by side here and

472
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,479
DJ: I don't think I look that much older than you,

473
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,240
DJ: which is kinda no.

474
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,760
Gregg: I might have more gray, you're not. You can't be

475
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,120
Gregg: that far away from Philip Rivers. So you guys could

476
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,960
Gregg: just like hang out in the super young Athletic grandfather

477
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,320
Gregg: club just down there.

478
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,760
DJ: I don't know. I don't know if anybody. I love Philip.

479
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,240
DJ: He's one of my favorite people of all time, but

480
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,240
DJ: I don't think that that was necessarily the athletic vibe

481
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,360
DJ: that he was putting out there in those well.

482
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Gregg: I mean he's literally in the NFL at his well

483
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,920
Gregg: pretty good. That's pretty good. Speaking of quarterbacks who get

484
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,800
Gregg: by in this era without necessarily a lot of movements skills,

485
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:42,160
Gregg: Jared Goff still in Detroit and the Lions, they're another

486
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,000
Gregg: team that want to talk to Mike McDaniel, will see

487
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,119
Gregg: he's going to have his pick of the litter. But

488
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,320
Gregg: you know, who they choose as play caller is going

489
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,280
Gregg: to be really important, and they're gonna have to reshape

490
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,600
Gregg: kind of who we think of as the Lions because

491
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:59,360
Gregg: Taylor Decker is openly considering retirement. Rag now is not

492
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,159
Gregg: coming back, even though he tried to come back, like

493
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,399
Gregg: he's not gonna come back for twenty six one story

494
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,760
Gregg: we haven't hit on NFL Daily, which I thought was interesting.

495
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,040
Gregg: Brad Holmes all but said David Montgomery is going to

496
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,359
Gregg: get traded or not on the roster if they can't,

497
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,879
Gregg: Like he said, yeah, we're gonna consider trading. Was like, okay,

498
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,240
Gregg: I guess he's gone, and so they're gonna have to

499
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,800
Gregg: kind of reimagine who they are, get better up front

500
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,280
Gregg: really on both sides, on the edge across from Hutchinson,

501
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,159
Gregg: and then I think even if Decker does return, you know,

502
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,000
Gregg: finding a tackle and getting better on the interior.

503
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DJ: By the way, I love that I've got you saying

504
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,080
DJ: reimagine now it's been it's been a buzzword that I've

505
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,920
DJ: just latched onto, and I've given you this section. I've

506
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,320
DJ: passed it along to you. My other favorite one is

507
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,560
DJ: from my time with Brandon Staley, who is just that.

508
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,320
DJ: He's a great dude. But he used to always use

509
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,119
DJ: the phrase onboarding, like Hey, we're gonna on board some guys. Yeah,

510
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,560
DJ: And then he would say that, and then I would

511
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,560
DJ: find myself like randomly saying that, like to the kids, like,

512
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,440
DJ: are we gonna on board some friends this week? This week?

513
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:54,280
DJ: What are we? What are we doing?

514
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,399
Gregg: It's very uh, it's very carpo speak.

515
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,639
DJ: Is that what it is? Yeah? That sounds like it.

516
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,320
Gregg: Like we would get that at an all all hands

517
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,560
Gregg: meeting at NFL media. You're too big to attend those now, but.

518
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,959
DJ: I get feedback and just let what I miss. That's

519
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,240
DJ: my that's my goal on those.

520
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,440
Gregg: They're a team that can restructure, by the way, pretty easily.

521
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,880
Gregg: They're over the cap right now, but not a lot

522
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,680
Gregg: of concerns in terms of their free agents. It's like

523
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,600
Gregg: DJ Reader alex Anzeloni. So I actually think they're in

524
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:22,960
Gregg: a good spot to kind of.

525
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,840
DJ: I think they're coordination. Their biggest that's their biggest move

526
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,560
DJ: that they have to make. It's not going to be

527
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,280
DJ: a roster edition. It's going to be can they get

528
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,680
DJ: the right voice in there? Because there's still so much

529
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,840
DJ: explosive talent that they have there. I'll go to my

530
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:40,359
DJ: next one here, which is Washington. Washington they have I'm

531
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,480
DJ: looking at this. They are picking in the first round

532
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,480
DJ: here and then they picked seventy one? Is that right?

533
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,359
DJ: Do they not have a second round pick? Let me

534
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,600
DJ: check that's is that fund? Yeah? You're I think you're right.

535
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,800
DJ: I was looking that up. Yeah, they picked seven and

536
00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:00,879
DJ: seventy one. So, uh, they're a team that needs picks.

537
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,879
DJ: They are in al I just literally I wrote in

538
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:08,520
DJ: all caps, get younger. They've got a lot of guys

539
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,400
DJ: falling off the books here they've been, and I think

540
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,359
DJ: it's not Adam Peters's fault. I think with what he

541
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,879
DJ: inherited there, they had to turnover the vast majority of

542
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,359
DJ: the roster, and the only they do that was on

543
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,720
DJ: these you know, one year vet flyers and they hit

544
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,600
DJ: gold with it the first time. And you're one of

545
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,280
DJ: that with Jade Daniels coming in surrounded by all these

546
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,080
DJ: older guys who were able to kind of squeeze the

547
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,720
DJ: last few drops out of that. Uh, and then it

548
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,040
DJ: all kind of blew up this past year. But new

549
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,000
DJ: offensive coordinator, new defensive coordinator coming your way in the

550
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,439
DJ: Nation's Capital. Figuring out what do we need to do

551
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,879
DJ: to keep Jade Daniels out there healthy and for an

552
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,040
DJ: entire season is the key part of it. They do

553
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,639
DJ: have some cap space with all those kind of veteran

554
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,560
DJ: guys falling off. I think they have like sixty million

555
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:57,320
DJ: bucks or so, but I mean edge rush, secondary on defense,

556
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,520
DJ: more weaponry, wide receiver on offense. Like there's there's a

557
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,600
DJ: lot of needs, but I think the number one overall

558
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,720
DJ: thing is to me, like trading down, even trading some

559
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,440
DJ: existing players for picks, like they need to get younger faster,

560
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,040
DJ: just that they need a whole new vibe here they

561
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:14,879
DJ: got real old.

562
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,040
Gregg: Yeah, it'll be fascinating to watch them in free agency

563
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,479
Gregg: because they have almost the most amount of space as

564
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,760
Gregg: anyone in the league and one of the worst rosters.

565
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,840
Gregg: There's almost you can't find a position that they don't

566
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,359
Gregg: have a need. You mentioned them, but they need it,

567
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,320
Gregg: and they have so many of those older players like

568
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,199
Gregg: von Miller and Wagner and Debo and Jonathan Jones, all

569
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,760
Gregg: these guys coming off the books. Zach Ertz It goes

570
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,520
Gregg: on and on. Mariota Ecklert like it just goes on

571
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,000
Gregg: and on, and so it's just it's going to be

572
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:47,320
Gregg: calibrat and get the right people in there and being competitive,

573
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,040
Gregg: you know, because they're not gonna want they're probably cutting

574
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,320
Gregg: marsh On Latimore by the way, that'll open up another

575
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,160
Gregg: twenty million dollars. Like there's there's just a lot to.

576
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,120
DJ: Work on there. Yeah. And then to me, it's going

577
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,720
DJ: after a different demographic in the free age market, trying

578
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,600
DJ: to find some of the you know, the younger guys early,

579
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,440
DJ: you know, mid twenties first come right off that first contract,

580
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,520
DJ: try and get that wave and looking at a group

581
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,240
DJ: that can grow with your young quarterback as opposed to

582
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,120
DJ: them feeling I think they were so ahead of schedule

583
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,880
DJ: last year there was like okay, well let's just try

584
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,160
DJ: and let's try and use this as our window right now,

585
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,040
DJ: a narrow window. And I think now they can think

586
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,280
DJ: a little bit more building approach and a little bit

587
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,880
DJ: more long term. And Adam did a great job when

588
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,119
DJ: he was you know, a big part of the drafting

589
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,119
DJ: process there in San Francisco. So they need to just

590
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,280
DJ: they need to buckle down, see if they get some

591
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,800
DJ: more picks and see if they can nail the draft.

592
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,399
Gregg: Tunsl's also making noise that he wants an extension and

593
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,720
Gregg: they've they've talked good. They've talked about doing it pretty

594
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,679
Gregg: openly Adam PETERSAZ, So that's something to watch out for.

595
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,200
Gregg: The Bucks are in good shape in terms of cap

596
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,600
Gregg: space twenty five million dollars. I like that you start

597
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,879
Gregg: with the picks. I start with the cap space.

598
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,120
DJ: Whatever you're going. Yeah, oh CE is.

599
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:59,240
Gregg: Wide open again. They interviewed Zach Robinson, the former Bucks coordinator, recently,

600
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,760
Gregg: but they're going to have a lot of interviews. One

601
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,120
Gregg: thing that's on my eye, and they have a lot

602
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,240
Gregg: of interesting free agents, Jammel Dean coming off his best season,

603
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,040
Gregg: Mike Evans, Hassan Reddick, Kate Atten is a good player.

604
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,520
Gregg: I don't think they're going to let him go. Maybe

605
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,000
Gregg: they'll tag him. Rashad White their their backup running So

606
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,960
Gregg: a lot of players that have really contributed a lot

607
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,719
Gregg: for him in a legend in Evans. But one thing

608
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,520
Gregg: on my eye. Will they re sign Baker. My guess

609
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,040
Gregg: is they'll just let him go into his contract year.

610
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,640
Gregg: He's coming off an uneven season. But for capital f

611
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,960
Gregg: franchise quarterback usually this is the offseason where a guy

612
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,280
Gregg: like Baker would get a new contract. So that's just

613
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,240
Gregg: something I'm interesting.

614
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,400
DJ: I think there's still a lot of belief in him

615
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,880
DJ: there and a fondness there that could lead you to

616
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,040
DJ: to going with the glass half full and think, and

617
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,080
DJ: we get in front of this, well, we'll save, we'll

618
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,760
DJ: save on it. Okay, so we'll see. To me, I

619
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,520
DJ: could I could see them talking themselves into that pretty easily.

620
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,520
Gregg: They need they need pass rush, they need linebacker Leanzi

621
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:03,480
Gregg: David sounds like he might be retiring, and they need guards,

622
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,560
Gregg: like they love three of their offensive linemen, and it

623
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,200
Gregg: was interesting looking at their roster they basically don't have

624
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,720
Gregg: a guard, which is crazy. They they got killed by

625
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,400
Gregg: injuries and they're two guys that actually played are both

626
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,520
Gregg: free agents, so like they are going to have to

627
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:18,760
Gregg: add some real depth there.

628
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,200
DJ: Yeah, and Jason Light's done a really good job of

629
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,800
DJ: finding offensive linemen and getting value for him where he does,

630
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,120
DJ: so I think that's a that's a solve there that

631
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,560
DJ: they can come up with. All Right, this next team, Greg,

632
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,240
DJ: this is my team of the off season. Okay, this

633
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,000
DJ: is the team that I cannot wait. Last year I

634
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,600
DJ: would have said probably New England, just because the resources

635
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,920
DJ: that they had and Drake May going into year two, like,

636
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,000
DJ: there was a lot of reasons to be optimistic about

637
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,400
DJ: them finding the right coach and using their draft picks,

638
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,840
DJ: and they had a bunch of free agent money. My

639
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,040
DJ: team of the offseason this year is the New York Giants.

640
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,320
DJ: I'm fascinated by it. I'm a Dart believer. I thought

641
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,720
DJ: he played really well, especially considering who was not there

642
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,280
DJ: around him. I don't love seeing the stuff on neighbors

643
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,480
DJ: about him being a little bit slow coming back from

644
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,400
DJ: that injury that maybe was more than we anticipated. But

645
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,840
DJ: you know, hopefully eventually you get him back in the fold.

646
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,080
DJ: But this is a team with if you look at

647
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,960
DJ: key pieces in place, They've got defensive linemen, got a

648
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,040
DJ: left tackle. I've got a young quarterback. They've got a

649
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,320
DJ: number one wide receiver that's a lot to kind of

650
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,080
DJ: build off of. They've got the fifth pick in the

651
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,760
DJ: draft and the thirty seventh pick in the draft. They

652
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,480
DJ: need to find the right offensive voice. Doesn't necessarily have

653
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,760
DJ: to be the head coach, but find that right offensive

654
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,160
DJ: voice to grow with Jackson Dart. I mean, I'm intrigued

655
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,680
DJ: by Stefanski I think could be a good fit there.

656
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,760
DJ: But I'm also could be talked into, Hey, go out

657
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,640
DJ: and get Shula or Minner and come in there, and

658
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,840
DJ: they immediately solve your defense and maximize the talent you have,

659
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,480
DJ: and they can bring an offensive coordinator there. I just

660
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,760
DJ: think there's some fascinating moves to be made. Do you

661
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,680
DJ: know you look at the draft that they had last year.

662
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,239
DJ: You get Abdul Carter, who I thought played better than

663
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,840
DJ: the stats would indicate, especially down the back half of

664
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,480
DJ: the year, when you've got Burns who has not only

665
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,480
DJ: the great play but the production. Thibodeau, is this one

666
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,000
DJ: that you could can Can you trade him? Like? What

667
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,080
DJ: can you do from that standpoint with him? Does that

668
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,720
DJ: create some more opportunities for you, you know, interior, offensive line,

669
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,480
DJ: more weapons on the perimeter. I don't know. I don't

670
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,360
DJ: just this is a team. I'm fascinated to see what

671
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,320
DJ: they do and how they put this puzzle together.

672
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,720
Gregg: I agree that if you're just going off rosters, all

673
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,479
Gregg: the Giants fans who are well would John Harbaugh come

674
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,360
Gregg: here and we'll see they're definitely pursuing John Harbaugh. If

675
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,000
Gregg: you're just going off roster I get the argument. I

676
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,600
Gregg: think they probably are the best situation because of what

677
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,200
Gregg: you said. I'll to use a RAMS term, all those

678
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,880
Gregg: weight bearing walls that like kee key position, premiere talent

679
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,880
Gregg: and a little bit of cap space and uh yeah,

680
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,720
Gregg: a lot of needs though on defense in general, like linebacker, cornerback,

681
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:51,640
Gregg: defensive tackle, like.

682
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,680
DJ: Yeah, but again though, that's like the you know, you've

683
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,760
DJ: got to found the D line is the foundation of

684
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,479
DJ: the defense. That's the hardest thing to find. They got

685
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,040
DJ: to get Dexter Lawrence rocking and rolling, you know.

686
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,520
Gregg: Because yeah, when you said Kavon, you know, as a

687
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,920
Gregg: trade candidate, I was just writing down some notes for

688
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,920
Gregg: this extors and I thought, like, would Dexter Lawrence ever

689
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,720
Gregg: be a trade candidate? He's coming up and down here.

690
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,760
DJ: Didn't. Yeah, I don't know if it was in shape

691
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,240
DJ: situation or what. I haven't talked to anybody there about it,

692
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,080
DJ: but he's been dominant at times, and he was not

693
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,960
DJ: really that same guy this year, and.

694
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,880
Gregg: He was coming off a really serious injury. And as

695
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:31,160
Gregg: we've seen really at every position. But kirk Cousins and

696
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,680
Gregg: Rogers are even a reminder like the one year further removed.

697
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,840
Gregg: Sometimes you look a lot better. Speaking of Kirk Cousins,

698
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,440
Gregg: the Atlanta Falcons have twenty two million dollars in cap space.

699
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,760
Gregg: They have a brand new team president, Matt Ryan. Will

700
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,400
Gregg: Matt Ryan come in there and the first thing he

701
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,040
Gregg: does is cut Kirk Cousins. He just signed a new

702
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,640
Gregg: contract Cousins. Yeah, that moves the money around. That makes

703
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,360
Gregg: it easier for him to cut. They have kind of

704
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,280
Gregg: come out at least Arthur Blank. I don't know what

705
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,800
Gregg: that means. You would think it means a lot that

706
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,959
Gregg: Michael Pennix is their franchise quarterback and they have some

707
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,560
Gregg: big free agency decisions. Kyle Pitts is a free agent.

708
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,320
Gregg: He's gonna be pretty high on my list. Other than that,

709
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,400
Gregg: Cayden Ellis is a good player for them, is a

710
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,200
Gregg: free agent. But actually, thought, you know, doing this exercise,

711
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,120
Gregg: they're in a pretty good position where you could upgrade

712
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:28,440
Gregg: at almost every position, like other than running back of course, yeah,

713
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,320
Gregg: and wide receiver one. You're feeling good, but there aren't

714
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,320
Gregg: a ton of screaming needs. It feels like you can

715
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,760
Gregg: get better in a lot of places. But I look

716
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,920
Gregg: around this roster and actually think like they have a

717
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,920
Gregg: pretty good baseline that Terry Fontina left for the next GM.

718
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,720
DJ: I think it's fascinating for every team in that division,

719
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:52,320
DJ: and that because the division is so average. You have

720
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,360
DJ: a team under you know, they had three teams tied,

721
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,320
DJ: you go to the playoffs under five hundred, like Carolina

722
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,560
DJ: Panthers did, as you could say, man, we can just

723
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,200
DJ: go get this better in this vetteran, this better in

724
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,720
DJ: this veteran, we can win the division this year. Or

725
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,320
DJ: it's like I think the better approach is if we

726
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,680
DJ: just continue to be you know, discipline, and we're building

727
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,800
DJ: to the draft and we're targeting the right young guys

728
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,360
DJ: in free agency, we can build a model and we

729
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,800
DJ: can win this division for the next five six years.

730
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,440
DJ: You know. I think that there's two different ways to

731
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,000
DJ: kind of look at how you approach an offseason when

732
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,560
DJ: you're in a division it's just frankly very average.

733
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,920
Gregg: I know, because it's funny you have the three teams

734
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,359
Gregg: that tied for first and then you have the other

735
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,120
Gregg: team who believes they have the best quarterback in the

736
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,239
Gregg: division already and he's probably going to be a second

737
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,160
Gregg: year player and shuck, and it's not that crazy of

738
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,600
Gregg: a thought. I mean, I'm not ready to put him

739
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,799
Gregg: like over Baker. But if you're telling me, like, who

740
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,719
Gregg: would I rather have? Like indefinitely, I think I would

741
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,439
Gregg: take the upside of Shuck Right now, he looked that good.

742
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,240
DJ: I think the health of the quarterbacks in that division

743
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,080
DJ: is going to be something to keep an eye on too.

744
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,480
Gregg: It's fair your last team, last team up is the Cardinals.

745
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,400
DJ: Yeah, last one overall, you're out, huh. I'm finishing us

746
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:10,080
DJ: off here, Arizona Cardinals. They are picking three, thirty four

747
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,000
DJ: and sixty five, so full a lot, but they're in

748
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,840
DJ: the first three rounds. I believe about nine million dollars

749
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,240
DJ: in cap space, but it's going to be all contingent

750
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,080
DJ: upon the decision with Kyler Murray, and I just it

751
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,920
DJ: does not feel at all like he's going to be there.

752
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,960
DJ: It feels like that's a very strong likelihood that he

753
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,799
DJ: gets traded. But you've got to get the coach thing

754
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,000
DJ: figured out first. And I don't you know, I always

755
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,799
DJ: laugh because I'm like, if you're a coach coming into

756
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,960
DJ: an uncertain quarterback situation and you're coming into the interview,

757
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,839
DJ: do you come in there and go, I can fix them.

758
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,239
DJ: I can I can make this all right? I can

759
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,480
DJ: take all that bat you think is bad money and

760
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,680
DJ: I can make it look like good money. Or do

761
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,120
DJ: you come in there and say, you guys have kind

762
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,360
DJ: of already figured this out. I've already known this for

763
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,160
DJ: a long time. This isn't going to work. We're going

764
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,400
DJ: in our in our new direction.

765
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,080
Gregg: I have an answer for you. You say whatever you

766
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,520
Gregg: think the owner wants you to say. So last time around,

767
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,080
Gregg: they had just given Kyler that contract. It was incumbent

768
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,680
Gregg: on Jonathan Gannon to be like, I can fix him.

769
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,520
Gregg: The first thing they had Jonathan Gannon Monte Austin for

770
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,360
Gregg: it to. I don't know if actually the gm ausen

771
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,000
Gregg: for it down in the weight room was sending him

772
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,000
Gregg: well in the weight room. Yes, And then they also

773
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,759
Gregg: send him to Oklahoma when they retired his number or

774
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,160
Gregg: whatever to go support Kyler Murray in the middle of

775
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,600
Gregg: the offseason say like, hey, you're our guy. But now

776
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,879
Gregg: that they've been through that and he's gone this guy,

777
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,560
Gregg: I think the right thing to tell the owner what

778
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,719
Gregg: they want to hear is we're going to find our

779
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:31,320
Gregg: new quarterback.

780
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,520
DJ: Yeah, there's somebody knew out there. We'll go locate him.

781
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,000
DJ: Continue to upgrade the offensive line, is going to be

782
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:41,120
DJ: a big part of that for whoever's playing quarterback. Paris

783
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,280
DJ: Johnson's there, but adding some more talent around that front.

784
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,719
DJ: Obviously you got a big time tight end. Feel good

785
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,600
DJ: about that. Marvin Harrison Junior has been a riddle, just

786
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,520
DJ: hadn't been healthy, hasn't been impactful. Michael Wilson's end up

787
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,560
DJ: being a revelation. He's been excellent.

788
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,160
Gregg: So want to sign him to the contract?

789
00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:59,919
DJ: Yeah, there are some is he free agent?

790
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,600
Gregg: He will be entering his free agent year, but he

791
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,640
Gregg: is He earned himself a lot of money the last

792
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,920
Gregg: nine games of the season. DJ Number one it's Pukinakua.

793
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,240
Gregg: Number two it's Michael Wilson, and number three it's Jackson

794
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:15,960
Gregg: Smith and Jigba.

795
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,680
DJ: Those are cracious. Yeah, that's not too shabby. No, So

796
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,600
DJ: that's encouraging. So there are some pieces there defensively, just

797
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,480
DJ: still a lot of work to be done there. So

798
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,759
DJ: they're kind of one of these teams that it's like

799
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:33,520
DJ: you stack up the the head coaching board of the

800
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,480
DJ: best jobs. I don't know, this one comes up on

801
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:37,480
DJ: the high end of that thing.

802
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,759
Gregg: I think that's fair because of the history of the

803
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,839
Gregg: organization in general and when you go through the division, right,

804
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,120
Gregg: you're stuck having a coach against these three behemoths and

805
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,719
Gregg: these three well run organizations, and when you go through

806
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,080
Gregg: the roster, you know, matyasen for it was a little

807
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,200
Gregg: defensive about it when some reporters pushed him out.

808
00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:59,480
DJ: I saw that. I did see that.

809
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,000
Gregg: It's not a bad roster. I kind of get what

810
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,720
Gregg: he means. When I was looking at it, was like, actually,

811
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,200
Gregg: they're in good shape cap wise. They don't have any

812
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,239
Gregg: young free agents like Jalen Thompson and Kalays Campbell are

813
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,200
Gregg: their best rereadons. They're in good shape. They don't have

814
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,359
Gregg: a lot of guys who are obvious cuts. But there's

815
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,719
Gregg: just not a lot of sizzle. It's a lot of like, hey,

816
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,440
Gregg: we're the eighteenth best team in the league at a

817
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,800
Gregg: lot of positions, and we're against these three awesome teams

818
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,040
Gregg: in our division, which is tough.

819
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,920
DJ: Yeah. I mean I just think I look at it

820
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,080
DJ: defensively and say, if you're getting ready to play that

821
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,719
DJ: team in a playoff game, who do you circle on

822
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,440
DJ: that defense? And you're like, oh boy, we better be ready.

823
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,840
DJ: You know, we got to handle this person or that person.

824
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,040
Gregg: I don't know jus Josh wed Ad and OK, you're

825
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:43,240
Gregg: Buddha Baker. Unfortunately, when I wrote down possible cuts or trade,

826
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,319
Gregg: I had to write down Yeah it was coming off

827
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:46,960
Gregg: a tough year.

828
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,680
DJ: But so that's an interesting one. This is a fun

829
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,400
DJ: exercise though, Like this is like the I told you

830
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,200
DJ: before we started off the air that this is like

831
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,799
DJ: you know, kind of personally in terms of the team,

832
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,880
DJ: and as we get a little bit deeper into it,

833
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,520
DJ: I'm kind of knocking out these draft guys. Is that

834
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,080
DJ: I feel like I'm the shallow end a little bit.

835
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,919
DJ: But it's a good exercise kind of getting a little

836
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,640
DJ: bit of a look see here at where these teams are.

837
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,720
Gregg: No, this was a great homework assignment. I appreciate forties

838
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:19,080
Gregg: and freedoms for that. And look, our producer Drew Christensen,

839
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,680
Gregg: he knows what's up so much so that he got

840
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,640
Gregg: us talking about Juwan Jennings. Remember yeah, last week's show

841
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,400
Gregg: as a as a four star recruit quarterback and what

842
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,880
Gregg: happens that next weekend? Yeah, the touchdown is great. No,

843
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,080
Gregg: that what really happened was I sent out an image

844
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,800
Gregg: that Drew sent me of the rankings of him ahead

845
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:45,720
Gregg: of Burrow and Lamar Arnold and that's a hit tweet

846
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,719
Gregg: two point five million views on that too.

847
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:48,600
DJ: Did you really?

848
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:50,080
Gregg: Wow?

849
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,839
DJ: Did you have I stole it? Any attribution on that tweet? Drew?

850
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,680
Gregg: You want to know we're doing it now. That's why

851
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,560
Gregg: I feel bad about it. It's like Sean McVay says,

852
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,960
Gregg: the best coaches are the best thieves.

853
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,439
DJ: I did not did not use that opportunity to plug

854
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,800
DJ: forties and free agency either. As Drew puts in the chat,

855
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,120
DJ: I'm sure we have. I'm sure there's two point five

856
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,520
DJ: million listeners right now that's going to even that math

857
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,879
DJ: out as you just gave him some credit.

858
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,440
Gregg: I mean, I didn't know. I didn't know it was

859
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,239
Gregg: gonna pop like that. If I if I did, I

860
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,080
Gregg: wouldn't have had a typo on the first try and

861
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:19,600
Gregg: then had that.

862
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,719
DJ: Man, maybe I would to edit on.

863
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,800
Gregg: The picture to take away learn about this skidding cream.

864
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,160
DJ: Yeah, I'm just learning about this and I'm and literally

865
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:31,200
DJ: within five seconds, I thought, Okay, how would I approach

866
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,080
DJ: this to be Like we had a fascinating chat on

867
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,120
DJ: forties and free agents this week about John Jennings. Here

868
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,640
DJ: you go, look at what he was as a high

869
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:43,000
DJ: school quarterback. Boom, everybody's covered, Like you just totally unselfishly

870
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,920
DJ: promote our little project we've been working on. But nope,

871
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:46,560
DJ: didn't happen.

872
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,120
Gregg: Yeah, but see this is where you know your you

873
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,799
Gregg: being a grandfather and me being you know, younger and

874
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,359
Gregg: understanding the kids makes more sense. Like if you did

875
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,480
Gregg: all that leading into it, maybe it does a million.

876
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,439
Gregg: You know. It's like as discussed on forties and free

877
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,359
Gregg: you don't need all that you gotta get. You got

878
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,080
Gregg: to get to the meet. You know, does it look

879
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:05,880
Gregg: like I have a dip in?

880
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,120
DJ: I just popped a recolo because we're finishing up pair.

881
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,600
Gregg: We are done. We're going to be back next week.

882
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,920
Gregg: I really enjoyed this exercise, So we will do the

883
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,840
Gregg: AFC next week as we start this off season planning

884
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,440
Gregg: here on forties and free agents. We will see you

885
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:23,640
Gregg: then